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From YouTube: Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - February 14, 2023
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Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting 2/14/23
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Thank
you
mayor
good
evening,
good
evening,
Council.
We
have
four
closed
session
items
tonight.
The
first
one
is
conference
with
the
legal
counsel
for
existing
litigation.
The
case
is
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Industries
versus
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
at
all.
It's
in
Ventura,
County,
Superior,
Court,
number,
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twenty
twenty
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five,
five,
three,
three
four
zero-
and
this
is
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
54956.9
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Of
all
things,
February,
14,
Valentine's,
Day
and
I'd
like
to
have
us
all
rise
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
right
hand
over
your
heart,
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
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Do
this
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments?
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole.
Speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
Two
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
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You,
madam
clerk,
again
just
to
clarify
what
that
means
when
you
speak
to
the
council
in
general,
comments
are
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole
means
no
individual
named
council
member,
as
you
make
your
comments
also
at
the
15
second
Mark
I
will
say
15
seconds,
and
that
should
be
a
cue
to
you
to
wrap
up
your
comments.
So
that
way
we
don't
delay
for
the
next
speaker.
The
other
is
I'm
going
to
call
up
two
people
at
a
time.
First,
one
will
come
up
to
the
podium.
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Second
person
would
sit
behind
the
person
on
the
podium.
We
have
a
chair
there
for
you.
So
that
way
we
can
keep
this
moving
forward,
so
Madam
clerk
I
understand
we
have
the
first
public
comment
is
with
Doug
Wayne
Doug,
please
step
up
and
zabrina
Tipton
do
I.
Have
it
Sabrina,
please
have
a
seat
behind
it
and
you'll
be
up
next,
sir,
going
to
proceed
you
up
three
minutes.
Thank.
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You
so
much.
First
of
all,
we're
new
to
the
area
met
some
wonderful
people
already.
My
name
is
Douglas
Wayne
I'm,
the
CEO
of
a
non-profit
public
charity
501c3.
It
is
called
youth
alert
USA
and
what
we
do
is
a
youth
peace
program.
We
really
have
two
jobs.
We
work
with
the
United
Nations.
We
have
something
called
special
consultative
status,
so
with
ecosox,
so
we
work
a
lot
with
all
193
member
states
promoting
youth
peace.
Our
mission
by
the
way
is
World
Peace
through
youth
peace.
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That's
sort
of
been
our
research
that
stepping
stone
to
world
peace,
I
hate
to
say
it
we're
a
bunch
of
crazy
peace
activists,
but
our
staff
tells
us
that
once
youth
piece
is
established,
it's
actually
within
reason.
So
when
we're
networking
with
the
UN,
we
are
doing
our
in-school
program
like
we
just
met
with
Conejo
Valley
Schools.
We
do.
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It
is
a
a
unique
Universal
model
that
the
U.S
department
of
justice
has
rated
effective
or
reducing
all
forms
of
violence.
So
we
follow
that
model.
It
is
a
school-based
model.
We
do
some
out
of
school
and
some
as
well
and
we'll
put
another
Twist
on
it.
We
we
youth,
do
half
the
violence
in
the
world.
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Adults
do
the
other
half
takes
us
longer
takes
us,
30
is
to
do
it,
so
our
model
is
that
it's
where
Youth
and
adults
eat
equally
to
reduce
violence.
There's
not
many
places
where
youth
can
really
be
equal
with
with
adults,
but
that
is
actually
that's.
Probably
the
biggest
lesson
in
our
program
in
our
curriculum
is
the
fact
that
it
is
adult
youth,
equal
partnership,
since
both
are
equal
in
doing
violence,
and
we
teach
what
we
can
to
the
kids.
We
you
know
instead
of
telling
them
what
not
to
do.
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We
try
to
teach
about
equality
and
kindness
for
some
reason,
equality
gives
them
self-esteem
and,
for
another
reason,
kinda
seems
to
give
them
the
respect
that
they
want.
So
it's
not
all
about
not
bullying,
not
doing
violence,
not
doing
this.
It's
it's
learning
the
skills
of
equality
and
kindness,
and
so
far
we
love
California,
it's
great
great
weather
and
we're
really
looking
forward
to
it.
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The
SBA
will
extend
support
to
homeowners
and
renters,
along
with
small
businesses
for
those
affected
by
the
severe
winter
storms,
flooding,
landslides
and
mudslides
that
occurred
December
27th
through
January
31st,
because
this
is
a
presidential
declaration.
We
are
in
partnership
with
FEMA
and
right
now
we
do
have
a
Disaster
Recovery
Center
opened
at
your
Fairgrounds
there
in
Ventura.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We
appreciate
that
and
I
want
to.
Let
you
know
that
what
we
provide
is
we
provide
the
low
interest,
Federal
loans.
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We
provide
them
to
two
businesses,
private
non-profit
organizations,
homeowners
and
renters,
and
those
are
usually
for
people
that
may
not
be
insured
or
underinsured,
and
what
comes
with
that
is
it's
up
to
2
million
to
repair
and
replace,
as
well
as
capital
needs
for
any
sort
of
disaster,
related
issues
for
businesses,
it's
up
to
200,
000
for
homeowners
to
repair
and
replace
and
then
for
homeowners
and
renters.
It's
up
to
forty
thousand
and
the
Forty
thousand
can
be
towards
personal
property
appliances,
clothing,
even
a
vehicle.
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Okay,
and
then
the
interest
rates
can
be
2.3
for
homeowners
or
renters
2.3
for
private
nonprofits
and
3.3
for
businesses,
and
that's
because
this
is
a
disaster,
low
interest,
Federal
Loan
and
that's
all
set
just
so
you
understand
that
and
then
we
also
provide
mitigation.
So
whatever
a
applicant
is
qualified
for
they
can
take
that
qualification.
That
amount
and
take
another
20
towards
mitigation.
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Out
with
that
summary
and
then
our
very
first
step
is
people
need
to
register
with
FEMA,
because
it's
a
presidential
declaration,
they
get
a
unique
number
that
can
happen
at
disasterassistance.gov
and
also,
if
it's
for
Spanish
speakers,
Disaster,
Assistance,
backslash,
es.gov,
backslash
es
and
then
I
just
want
to
say.
Your
second
step
would
be
to
come
to
us.
If
you
referred
to
us
from
FEMA,
that's
how
that
happens,
and
then
we
just
really
want
to
push
people
to
please
come
into
the
recovery
center.
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Thanks
so
much
just
wanted
to
Echo
the
comments
and
Sabrina
and
I
know
Alexander
South,
our
strategic
communications
director
is
going
to
catch.
You
make
sure
if
she
gets
her
information
so
that
we
can
help
code
promote.
While
we
didn't
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
storm
damage
from
the
floods,
there
were
individual
property
owners
who
did
experience
damage,
and
it's
just
a
reminder
that
that,
based
on
the
disaster
declaration,
you
experience,
experienced
flooding
and
damage
at
your
home.
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You
are
eligible
and
so
that
there
was
a
lot
of
significant
damage
in
the
western
part
of
the
county,
and
a
lot
of
those
folks
are
utilizing
that
Fairgrounds,
Recovery
Center,
is
why
they
established
it
there.
But
I
would
encourage
you
if
you
did
experience
that
on
a
localized
level
at
your
home
to
leverage
and
make
yourself
available
value
yourself
with
those
resources
from
the
federal
government.
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Thank
you,
sir,
with
that
we're
going
to
move
to
our
consent
calendar
and
is
there
any
discussion
or
any
items
that
council
members
wish
to
pull
we're
good?
Okay,
I'll
entertain
a
motion
for
actually
before
I.
Do
that
Madam
clerk?
Any
speakers?
No
speakers
very
good
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
from
one
of
my
council
members.
So.
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And
that
motion
passes
5-0
and
there
are
two
ordinance
titles
to
be
read.
The
first
one
is
an
ordinance
amending
Thousand,
Oaks,
Municipal
Code
relating
to
official
zoning
map
by
changing
zoning
classification
of
property
located
at
3020
Crescent
Way
zone
change,
2022-70828-z
ordinance,
number
1709ns
and
the
second
title
is
ordinance
amending
Thousand
Oaks
Municipal
Code,
article
21
to
Title
9
chapter
4,
to
allow
columbarium
use
ancillary
to
a
permitted
religious
facility
in
residential
zones
and
establish
new
development
and
Zoning
standards
related
to
columbarium
use
in
residential
zones.
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good
evening,
mayor
McNamee
and
council
members
my
pleasure
to
be
here
to
present
the
community
funding
review
committee's
recommendations
for
the
city's
fiscal
2022
and
2023
Community
environmental
enhancement
grants
also
known
as
the
ceeg
grants
the
city
ceeg
Grant.
A
program
funding
is
included
in
the
adopted
fiscal
year.
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2022-23
budget
Grant
is
funded
by
interest
income
earned
from
the
solid
waste
fund.
This
year.
Forty
five
thousand
dollars
of
funding
was
made
available
to
support
the
environmental
projects
for
local,
non-profit
community
and
school
groups.
Qualifying
programs
must
provide
a
benefit
to
the
community
they
serve
and
to
a
wide
cross-section
of
the
community.
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This
application
period
was
open
from
November
14th
to
December
15th.
The
application
was
available
on
the
city's
website.
Email
notifications
were
sent
to
applicants
from
previous
Grant
Cycles.
A
press
release
was
issued
and
email
regarding
the
grant
program
was
sent
to
the
CVUSD.
An
article
was
published
in
the
sustainability
division
e-newsletter,
which
was
distributed
to
over
10
000
subscribers,
as
well
as
November
and
December
issues
of
the
city
scene
newsletter,
the
city
utilized
social
media,
to
notify
the
community
of
the
grant
opportunity.
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Additionally
the
acorn
published
an
article
on
the
grant
opportunity
on
November
25th
City
staff
held
an
application
workshop
on
September
8th
via
Zoom
for
all
non-profit
organizations
interested
in
applying
for
the
grant.
The
workshop
was
recorded
and
remains
available
on
the
dedicated
grant
opportunities
website
for
the
city.
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The
city
received
12
qualified
applications
with
Grant
requests,
totaling
forty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
cfrc
members
independently
evaluated
the
applications
using
predetermined,
scoring
criteria
based
on
requirements
in
the
Grant
application
on
January
18th,
the
cfrc
met
to
discuss
the
collated
scores
of
the
applications.
The
cfrc
recommends,
awarding
full
grant
funding
for
the
top
applicants
until
available
funds
are
exhausted,
resulting
in
10
applicants
receiving
full
funding.
One
applicant
receiving
partial
funding
and
a
the
lowest
scoring
applicant
was
unfunded.
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The
cfrc
recommends
the
city
council
award
the
fiscal
year,
2022-23
Community
environmental
enhancement,
grants,
as
presented
by
the
committee,
with
a
total
of
forty
five
thousand
dollars.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
For
the
evening
community
service
analyst
Sarah,
males
and
I
are
available
for
your
questions.
Thank.
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I
am
the
vice
president
of
autoante,
community
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
considering
our
grant
and
funding
our
this
important
work
that
we
plan
to
undertake
with
the
families
that
we
are
connected
to
and
the
community
that
surrounds
them.
So
again,
I
would
like
to
thank
you
on
behalf
of
Adelante
kumaridad
for
this
important
Grant.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
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There
we
go
now
it's
on
good
evening,
I'm
excited
to
give
you
an
update
on
what's
been
happening
with
the
police
department.
Here
over
the
last
year,
I
have
with
me
Kevin
Lynch,
he's
new
to
the
station
as
our
captain
over
investigations.
I,
don't
think
he's
gonna
say
anything
he'll
just
sit
here
by
me.
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Driving
this
you
know
same
black
and
white
police
cars
in
the
same
uniform.
It's
just
an
added
benefit
that
the
the
city's
not
paying
for
but
gets
to
enjoy,
because
that
partnership
we've
had-
and
you
know,
I
for
the
public
that
partnership's
been
here
since
1964
when
the
city
was
first
Incorporated
and
I
just
like
to
say
how
you
know
grateful.
We
are
for
that.
Partnership
works
out
super
great
I
believe
for
both
of
us,
our
deputies,
love
working.
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Here
we
get
a
lot
of
support,
especially
during
the
trying
times.
We've
had
recently
it's
great
to
get
the
work
in
a
community
that
appreciates
you
and
supports
you,
our
Patrol
Bureau.
We
have
six
cars
that
are
24
hours
a
day.
Seven
days
a
week.
We
have
another
six
that
are
12
hours
a
day.
Seven
days
a
week.
We
have
one
that's
a
10
hour
four
day
a
week,
then
we
have
a
directed
enforcement
team,
our
special
enforcement
and
community
resource
unit,
which
I'll
be
talking
about
a
little
bit
more
our
special
enforcement
unit.
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Typically,
does
you
can
see
the
things
here?
What
typically
does
Gang
Related
investigations
and
street
level
narcotics
investigations?
The
sheriff's
department
has
another
narcotics
Bureau
that
does
the
major
narcotics
investigations.
These
would
be
more
your
local
kind
of
drug
houses,
nuisance
houses
that
they
would
handle
in
special
enforcement
unit
and
the
directed
enforcement
unit,
which
I'll
cover
next.
Both
of
these
give
us
at
the
police
department,
some
flexibility
and
addressing
issues.
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For
instance,
for
the
last
couple
years,
the
special
enforcement
unit
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
and
dealing
with
residential
burglaries,
because
it's
been
really
difficult.
Complex
investigations
and
they've
had
the
time
that
detectives
don't
to
address
that
issue,
so
we
use
them
in
that
manner.
So,
you'll
see
throughout
the
years
they
may
shift
their
focus
and
and
change
on
different
things.
Directed
enforcement
unit
is
a
perfect
example
of
that.
We've
spoken
I've
spoken
here
before
about
this
team.
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It
used
to
be
the
bike,
Patrol
team
and
used
to
do
bike
Patrol
down
on
Teal
Boulevard.
Is
that
that
crime
problem
that
crime
Trend
subsided
they
moved
more
into
what
they
do
now,
which
is
they
do
a
whole
lot
of
conflict
resolution.
They
go
to
some
special
training
for
that
they
work
with
Alcohol
Beverage
Control
to
do
to
do
checks
at
bars
a
lot
of
things
like
that,
a
lot
of
quality
of
life,
public
nuisance
issues.
Again,
it's
just
part
of
our
flexibility.
N
If
we
begin
to
have
a
gang
issue
that
gets
large,
they
can
also
supplement
our
special
enforcement
unit
in
handling
that
our
traffic
Bureau.
We
have
two
sergeants
Three
Investigators
and
we
have
eight
motor
officers
and
just
to
let
everybody
know,
if
you
get
pulled
over
by
a
motor
officer,
their
only
job
is
to
write
tickets
and
and
do
a
traffic
accident
investigations,
so
you're
probably
going
to
be
in
trouble.
N
If
they
stop
you
it's
it's
just
something
everybody
should
know
one
of
the
things
we're
doing,
though,
we've
had
a
problem
which
I'll
talk
about
more.
We
had
a
lot
of
DUI
related
traffic
fatalities
this
last
year
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit
here,
but
one
of
our
motor
officers
is
going
to
be
leaving
us
to
go
work
in
the
jail.
N
Our
investigation.
Bureau
has
two
sergeants
13
detectives
and
a
community
prosecutor.
He
there
at
the
station.
We
also
have
some
County
detectives
as
well.
They
they
investigate
everything
except
for
murders.
Murders
are
handled
by
again
another
Sheriff's
Bureau,
the
major
crimes
Bureau
that
works
out
of
Camarillo,
the
community
prosecutor.
N
That's
something
the
city
pays
for
half
the
salary
of
a
community
prosecutor.
We
get
access
to
that
person
to
help
us
with
getting
search,
warrants,
signed
and
dealing
with
all
kinds
of
issues
really
related
to
what
we
have
a
prolific
offender
program
where
we
have
people
identify
that
are
committing
lots
and
lots
of
crimes
that
Community
prosecutor
can
help
us
address
those
issues
in
a
real,
comprehensive
way.
N
N
We
only
had
one
year
lower
since
Uniform
Crime
reporting
statistics
were
started.
Uniform
crime
statistics
were
started
in
1991.
That's
a
reporting
method
we
use
for
the
FBI.
Now
that's
changing
soon
we're
going
to
be
going
to
a
different
system,
but
it
started
in
1991.
2020
was
lower
than
this
by
about
50
crimes,
but
other
than
that
this
is
the
lowest
number
of
crimes
we've
had
since,
since
the
United
Uniform
Crime
reporting
has
been
in
effect
in
1991,
and
this
is
the
lowest
year
on
record
for
violent
crime
that
we've
ever
had
since
1991.
N
So
that's
really
good
news.
We
had
a
19
decrease
in
violent
crime
from
last
year
and
we
had
a
seven
percent
decrease
overall.
In
our
part,
one
crimes,
one
thing
I
put
on
a
couple
things
I
put
in
here
to
take
note
of
stolen
vehicles
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this.
But
those
are
up
this
year,
35
percent
and
then
we
add
a
33
increase
in
our
DUI
arrests.
But
that's
part
of
our
response
to
these
eight
fatalities
that
we
had.
That
was
a
large
number
of
traffic
fatalities.
N
We
really
pivoted.
We
saw
that
about
the
beginning
middle
of
the
summer
we
saw
this
was
really
spiking
on
us.
We
we
really
emphasized
DUI
arrests
with
the
with
the
deputies
and
were
able
to
curb
that
Trend,
the
second
half
of
the
Year,
we're
hoping
to
continue
that
into
this
year.
This
current
year,
our
transparency,
dashboards
people
that
are
looking
for
some
of
the
data
that
I'm
talking
about
now
or
other
information
about
the
sheriff's
office.
N
If
you
go
to
venturasheriff.org
up
at
the
top
on
the
right
hand,
side
there's
a
banner
called
transparency
and,
under
that
there's
a
few
things.
I
just
wanted
to
cover
real
quickly
one
there's
a
there's
a
document.
There
called
vcso
overview
that
talks
about
all
the
kind
of
training
that
our
deputies
receive
in
in
bias
in
Crisis
Intervention
training,
and
there
was
other,
oh
and
de-escalation.
Those
things
are
all
talked
about
in
there.
N
So
if
the
Public's
curious
about
what
we
do
on
those
things
and
the
training
that
we
go
in,
that's
all
listed
there
on
the
transparency,
dashboards,
there's
also
information
related
to
all
our
uses
of
force
that
we
do.
It's
all
listed
out
the
types
of
use
of
force
and
who
we
use
that
on
also
the
if
you've
heard
of
Ripa
before
it's
the
racial
identifying
profiling
act.
All
that
data
is
also
on
there
for
for
the
public
to
look
at
it's
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
thing
to
see.
N
We
also
have
all
our
officer
involved
shootings
since
we're
the
oldest
one.
We
have
was
1965..
Those
are
all
listed
on
there,
including
body
cam,
footage
and
photos.
They
obviously
don't
have
that
for
1965.,
but
for
the
more
recent
ones
and
that's
a
result
of
Senate
Bill
1421,
which
would
in
effect
a
couple
years
ago
that
that
stuff
became
public
knowledge.
So
that's
all
there
for
the
public
to
see
some
of
the
current
challenges.
One
I've
talked
about
the
traffic
fatalities,
so
we
did
have
eight
it's
it's.
N
It's
been
really
really
tough.
We've
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
to
curb
that
our
stolen
vehicles,
we
have
35
percent,
increase,
we're
working
with
some
other
task
force.
The
Ventura
County
has
a
task
force.
That's
comprise
a
lot
of
the
CHP
officers,
we're
working
with
them
on
that
in
identifying
trends.
N
Cattle
converter
thefts,
so
it's
been
in
the
news
a
lot.
Those
are
kind
of
flat
for
us
right
now,
so
I
want
to
touch
on
that
because
they
are
in
the
news
but
California
put
in
some
legislation:
legislation
that
took
place
in
January
that
basically
requires
people
accepting
calic
converters
at
recycling
centers
to
have
to
have
a
whole
lot
of
paperwork
that
goes
with
it.
Basically,
the
same
paperwork
you'd
have
to
sell
the
car
to
them.
N
We're
watching
to
see
if
that
actually
curbs
the
catalytic
converter
thefts
it's
something
they
implemented
in
Canada
I
think
a
couple
years
ago,
and
it
made
a
difference
there,
we're
hoping
it
makes
a
difference
here,
organized
crime.
We
have
groups
that
so
that's
not
Mafia
style
crime,
but
we
have
groups
that,
for
instance,
are
residential
burglars
that
we're
having
are
organized
groups
of
people
that
are
using
specified
tactics
to
specify
method
of
operation
to
commit
those
burglaries.
We
have
organized
retail
thefts
doing
the
same
thing.
N
We
have
groups
breaking
the
cars
at
trailheads
and
we
have
people
that
are
stealing
wallets
and
purses
at
our
stores.
Those
groups
just
to
get
an
idea.
I
know
it
sounds
kind
of
scary.
Sometimes
we
call
them
organized,
but
the
nice
thing
about
them
is
because
they're
organized
they
get
into
set
patterns
of
how
they
commit
crime,
which
gives
us
places
to
exploit
to
catch
them
with,
and
we've
done
a
very
good
job
of
that,
for
instance,
our
residential
burglaries
were
the
lowest
on
record
since
the
year
2000
this
last
year.
N
N
We
did
up
our
License
Plate
Reader
Program
this
last
year
and
I
want
to
report
back
on
that.
So
back
in
April
we
added
10
cameras,
we
added
fixed
cameras
and
then
we
added
some
cameras
on
patrol
cars
and
we
added
some
trailers
and
since
then,
we've
had
24
cases
that
we've
solved
that
were
solved
because
of
those
which
was
43
arrests
and
over
127
thousand
dollars
in
property,
recovered
and
I
wanted
to
just
highlight
one
case.
N
It
was
the
very
first
week
we
put
up
some
cameras
on
Hillcrest
and
we
had
a
a
robbery
that
occurred
in
the
parking
lot.
That's
kind
of
the
south
side
of
the
Jan's
Marketplace
and
the
only
information
we
have
is
that
was
an
older
white
Jaguar
and
with
the
License
Plate
Reader,
we
were
able
to
find
that
car
and
solve
that
robbery
and
that
case
would
not
have
been
solved
without
the
license
plate
readers.
So
so
that's
that's
been
working
well.
Traffic
enforcement.
N
In
addition
to
the
DUI
arrests,
we've
been
doing
some
additional
patrols,
those
come
from
Grant
funds
and
we've
been
doing
some
partnership
with
the
CHP
part
of
our
efforts
on
the
homelessness
front.
Is
we've
been
working
a
lot
more
closely
with
the
CHP
and
Caltrans,
which
is
which
has
evolved
now
into
working
more
closely
with
them
on
the
DUI
problem,
because,
obviously,
in
their
area,
they're
having
the
same
issue
as
we
are?
N
And
so
you
take
places
like
the
23
south
of
the
101
Westlake
Boulevard,
that's
a
chp's
responsible
for
that
area,
and
we
we
typically
can't
do
DUI
checkpoints
in
that
area,
but
because
we
partner
with
this
CHP
we're
able
to
so
we've
been
making
some
stronger
inroads
and
Partnerships
with
the
CHP.
On
that
case,
I
talked
about
the
vulnerable
population
officers
already,
and
that
concludes
my
presentation.
F
B
O
Good
afternoon,
mayor
councilor
good
evening,
mayor
council
and
City
officials,
my
name
is
Kevin
Lynch
I'm,
a
detective
captain
for
the
Thousand
Oaks
Station
28-year
veteran
about
half
of
that
spent
in
detectives
in
some
capacity
another.
In
fact,
our
esteemed
Chief,
here
and
I
were
Partners
about
25
years
ago,
when
we
were
both
much
younger
and
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
N
You
know
the
residential
burglary,
I
would
say:
I,
don't
know
that
consumes
the
most
resources,
but
it's
the
most
concerning
to
us
only
because
when
somebody
breaks
into
your
home
we
realize
how
violating
that
is,
and
so
those
are
of
like
utmost
importance
to
us
because
of
that,
as
I
highlighted,
we
actually
did
have
the
lowest
number
of
residential
burglaries
since
2000.
But
that's
because
of
all
the
effort
we've
been
putting
in
because
we
recognize
how
disturbing
that
is
to
the
victims.
I.
B
N
It's
it's.
It's
really
just
been
a
lot
of
hard
work.
The
the
work
on
the
residential
burglary
cruises
really
paid
off
made
a
lot
of
good
inros
that
our
detectives
are
really
honing
their
skills
on
that
putting
some
more
urgency
into
that
has
been
a
big
deal
on
the
violent
crime.
I
believe
our
efforts
with
the
vulnerable
population
has
really
made
a
big
difference.
Some
of
these
encampments
that
that
start
to
have
some
violence
happen
in
them.
The
earlier
we
can
intervene.
B
N
N
N
N
B
N
F
Thank
you
mayor,
thank
you
for
the
good
presentation
and
congratulations
on
the
results.
You've
been
achieving
over
the
last
few
years
to
have
crime
at
its
lowest
rate
since
to
year.
2000
is
a
feather
in
your
feather
in
your
cap,
so
to
speak.
My
question
I
think
really
is
has
to
do
with.
Is
there
anything
that
the
public
can
be
doing
to
assist
you?
F
A
few
years
back
we
had
a
rash
of
car
burglaries
exposed
packages
and
that
sort
of
thing
in
in
cars
people
rallied
around
that
started
to
hide
their
packages
and
locked
their
doors.
Is
there
anything
else
that
we
should
be
looking
for
any
ideas?
You
can
give
the
public
now
to
help
you
with
lowering
that
crime
rate
even
more
yeah.
N
One
of
the
things
that's
a
great
question.
One
of
the
things
we've
been
doing
is
we've
attended,
I
personally
attended
and
my
guys
have
attended
a
whole
bunch
of
homeowners
association
meetings
to
talk
about
specifically
the
residential
burglary
and
watching
out
for
your
neighbors
is
really
important
in
feel
free
to
call
us.
I
guess
is
my
best
advice
right,
A
lot
of
people
say
well,
I
did
see
something
sufficient,
but
I
didn't
know
if
I
should
call
or
not.
N
We
want
to
be
called
call
us
when
you
see
something
suspicious
and
when
something's
going
on.
Please
call
us
we.
We
we
try
to
put
out
the
crime
tips
that
are
relevant
to
time
on
social
media.
Where
you'll
see
things
like
your
talk,
the
example
you
gave
about
the
packages
being
exposed,
that's
something
we
repeat
every
year
around
the
holidays
because
it
comes
becomes
really
relevant
around
the
holidays,
but
no
the
Publix
The
public's,
been
great.
N
Q
Q
Sir,
as
Jeremy
said,
they
become
a
very
effective
law
enforcement
tool.
Glad
to
hear
that
and
congratulations
to
you
on
the
on
these
crime
statistics,
we're
going
definitely
going
in
the
right
direction
and,
like
you
said
it's
due
to
a
lot
of
hard
work
for
you
and
your
and
your
people.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Hey
on
that
DUI
thing
am
I
to
understand
that
I'm
looking
in
one
of
two
ways:
either
more
people
are
driving
drunk
or
we're
just
catching
more
people,
I
hope
it's.
The
latter.
N
You
know
it's,
it's
both
that's
and
that's.
What
we
saw
right
is
that
more
people
are
driving
drugs.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
if
you
really
start
digging
in
the
satch
you'll
see
our
DUI
crashes
are
up
just
under
30,
and
our
DUI
arrests
went
up
33
and
that's
one
of
the
things
we
recognize.
That's
why
we
put
the
emphasis
on
the
DUI.
Arrests
is
because,
yes,
there's
more
people
drinking
more
and
more
people
crashing.
N
Q
N
It
Ebbs
and
flows.
We
watch
that
really
carefully
what
we've
seen
this
last
year
isn't
kind
of
an
increase
in
some
of
the
graffiti
and
things
like
that,
and
that's
we're
shifting
some
more
Focus
back
on
that.
Because
of
that
issue,
we've
had
some
fights
that
have
occurred
that
are
juvenile
juvenile
fights
both
at
schools.
N
We've
had
some
at
the
Oaks
Mall,
the
Jans
mall,
and
that's
when
we
start
to
see
those
things
and
we
start
to
shift
back
that
focus
and,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
be
doing
as
well,
and
that's
where
that
flexibility
I
was
talking
about,
becomes
real
important
right
that
we
as
soon
as
we
recognize
this.
We
need
to
Pivot
and
start
putting
some
pressure
in
those
areas
and.
R
Q
B
N
No,
we
feel
comfortable
with
the
with
the
three
three
that
we
have
they're
well
supported
by
a
sergeant
and
Senior
Deputy
who
oftentimes
steps
in
if
there's
any
additional
work
that
needs
to
be
done,
they
can
come
in
and
help
too
and
then,
as
a
presentation
show,
they
work
really
closely
with
our
special
enforcement
unit
and
direct
enforcement
unit.
So
if
they
need
additional
resources,
they
have
access
to
all
those
again.
That's
part
of
that
flexibility,
that's
built
in
that's
really
important
to
us.
B
The
other
is,
as
you
and
I
spoke,
and
we
got
funding
for
the
license
plate.
Readers
I
asked
you
what
would
be
the
next
step,
and
you
asked
me
to
reach
out
to
the
local
cities
around
us
to
protect
each
other
by
installing
lprs,
so
from
Simi
Valley
to
West,
Lake
Agora
from
Calabasas
to
Oxnard
I
spoke
to
city
managers,
council
members
and
mayors
to
ask
them
to
move
in
that
direction.
I
found
some
that
already
put
things
in
motion
and
others
hadn't
even
thought
about
it.
B
So
I'm
very
excited
that
other
neighbor
cities
are
going
to
do
the
same.
So
we
can
kind
of
watch
each
other's
back,
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
very
important
and
I'd
also
like
to
let
the
audience
know
that
when
I
spoke
with
Chief
Paris
about
license
plate
readers,
the
way
this
went
down
was
that
I
said
well.
Let
me
call
tomorrow
the
city
manager,
Drew
powers
and
discussed
this
with
him.
I
gave
him
a
call
and
halfway
through
the
explanation,
he
says,
Kevin
stop
I'm
already
sold
on
it.
B
B
M
S
N
M
Q
N
There
yeah
so
so
among
the
sheriff's
department,
it's
it's
all
shared
and
when
you
get
outside
the
sheriff's
department,
it's
shared
as
long
as
there's
a
memorandum
of
agreement
in
place
for
some
data
protection
issues.
It's
it's
kind
of
some
standard
legal
language
to
make
sure
the
data
is
not
used
for
something
that's
not
supposed
to
be
used
for,
but
yes,
it's
it's
shared.
A
B
Chief
Dykes
articulate
that
correctly.
Yes,
it's
nice
when
I
get
it
right.
Thank
you,
the
long
arm
of
the
law.
This
is
an
informational,
any
other
questions
before
I
move
on
we're
good,
okay
Theo.
This
is
one,
was
an
informational
update.
So
there's
not
going
to
be
any
need
for
emotion,
so
I'll,
move
on
to
10,
B
school
crossing
guard
program
standards
and
policies,
Chief
Captain.
Thank
you
so
much
appreciate
your
presentation.
B
T
Mr
Mayor
members
of
the
council
good
evening
with
me
this
evening,
is
the
Public
Works
director
Cliff
Henley
city,
engineer,
hadari,
an
assistant
City
attorney
Noel
Doran,
who
will
provide
additional
information,
as
is
needed
before
I,
provide
a
brief
history
of
the
crossing
guard
program
and
the
proposed
recommendations
of
the
traffic
commission
to
improve
that
program.
Can.
T
T
T
Four-Way
stops
and
signalized
intersections
by
Design
provide
gaps
in
vehicle
movements
in
order
for
pedestrians
to
cross
crossing
guards
are
trained
specifically
to
allow
the
regular
movement
of
traffic
by
observing
the
normal
flow
of
traffic
and
then
providing
momentary
gaps
in
the
flow
when
necessary.
To
allow
pedestrians
to
cross
the
school
crossing
guard
program
is
only
one
of
a
wide
array
of
resources.
The
city
has
applied
throughout
the
community
to
improve
walkability,
making
the
community
and
our
streets
safer
and
more
pedestrian
friendly.
T
T
T
We
have
also
constructed
ball
bouts
to
shorten
pedestrian
Crossing
distances
by
extending
the
sidewalk
partially
into
the
street,
making
pedestrians
more
visible
to
oncoming
vehicles.
This
has
happened
most
recently
on
Willow
Lane
and
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
and
previously
near
Redwood,
Middle
School.
T
T
T
T
Turning
our
attention
to
the
crossing
guard
program,
city
council
approved
the
first
crossing
guard
in
1964.
Approximately
six
weeks
after
the
city
was
incorporated
and
has
been
managing
and
funding
this
program
ever
since
Thousand
Oaks
is
one
of
eight
municipalities
in
Ventura
County
that
solely
funds,
their
crossing
guard
programs.
T
The
state
has
established
minimum
standards
which
should
be
met
for
considering
a
crossing
guard
placement
meeting.
Minimum
standards
does
not
in
and
of
itself
require
the
reply.
The
replacement
of
a
crossing
guard
since
at
least
1999
a
set
of
Department
adopt,
adopted
standards
modeled
after
the
state
guidelines,
but
with
far
easier
qualifying
standards
has
guided
staff
in
their
recommendations
to
the
traffic
commission
and
to
city
council
annually.
Staff
analyzes
through
physical
counts
at
current
and
proposed
locations
and
recommends
new
locations
that
should
be
approved
and
any
changes
that
need
to
be
made
to
existing
locations.
T
A
report
is
first
provided
to
the
traffic
commission
and
then
to
city
council
Decisions
by
the
traffic
commission.
City
council
have
not
always
been
consistent
with
these,
with
the
standards
in
place
resulting
in
locations
that
do
not
fully
meet
the
standards
being
assigned
to
be
assigned
to
crossing
guards.
T
T
T
The
change
in
the
number
of
locations
is
not
due
to
any
policy
changes
by
staff
or
the
council,
but
rather
a
result
of
school
closures.
Changing
enrollment
the
availability
for
parents
to
choose
schools
outside
assigned
boundaries
and
changes
in
traffic
patterns
over
time,
including
more
parents
driving
their
children
to
school.
T
The
last
location,
either
added
or
removed,
was
during
the
2018-2019
school
year,
when
a
Crossing
location
for
Westlake,
Hills
Elementary
was
added.
The
majority
of
locations
currently
approved
by
city
council,
fully
meet
the
city
standard
and
and
even
the
more
difficult
to
achieve,
State
Standards.
However,
there
are
concerns
about
the
effective
management
of
the
program
by
allowing
locations
that
consistently
fail
to
meet
the
city's
standards
to
continue
to
retain
crossing
guards
year
after
year.
T
In
order
to
address
these
inconsistencies
and
establish
a
clearly
defined
and
city
council
approved,
set
of
standards
and
policies
to
govern
this
program.
City
council
directed
staff
in
August
2022
to
work
with
the
traffic
commission
to
update
the
current
standards
and
policies.
This
work
started
in
October
and
resulted
in
the
recommended
update
to
standards
and
policies
in
December
by
the
traffic
Commission,
which
considered
City's
current
policies,
the
state
standards,
public
feedback
and
traffic
commission
suggestions
for
needed
improvements.
T
The
changes
before
you
tonight
cover
several
key
areas
of
the
existing
program
but,
most
importantly,
keep
nearly
all
the
city's
more
accommodating
and
easing
easy
to
qualify
standards,
and
it
even
adds
new
criteria
that
make
qualifying
a
location
for
a
crossing
guard
even
easier
than
it
is
now.
This
results
in
a
more
generous
policy
for
City
residents
going
forward.
T
T
The
changes
begin
with
review
Authority.
It
is
not
universally
accepted
among
public
agencies
to
have
the
city
council
approve
crossing
guard
locations.
Often
review
takes
place
at
the
committee
or
staff
levels.
The
traffic
commission
is
recommending
that
approval
Authority
moved
to
the
public
works
director.
The
Public
Works
director
will
be
bound
by
the
standards
in
place.
Ensuring
the
policy
is
consistently
applied,
placing
resources
where
the
greatest
need
exists.
T
This
also
strength
streamlines
the
review
and
approval
process
which
currently
can
take
up
to
four
to
five
months
to
complete.
Decisions
will
now
be
made
in
a
matter
of
a
few
weeks,
while
ensuring
public
participation
and
the
opportunity
to
appeal
any
decision
made
counts
consistent
with
current
traffic
engineering
practices
will
be
done.
This
is
completely
consistent
with
all
other
traffic
control
measures
considered
by
the
city,
such
as
speed,
humps,
crosswalks,
and
stop
sign.
T
Once
the
Public
Work
Director
reviews
staff's
data
and
makes
their
determination
on
consistency
with
the
adopted
standards,
the
list
of
approved
locations
will
be
presented
to
the
traffic
commission,
where
the
public
can
provide
testimony.
The
outcome
of
that
meeting
will
be
reported
to
the
city
council,
and
the
school
district
will
be
kept
informed
throughout
the
process.
Just
as
we
do
now
should
a
member
of
the
public
wish
to
appeal
any
decision
of
the
Public
Works
director
they
can
do
so
to
City
Council
in
appeal.
T
As
a
point
of
clarification
for
the
council,
the
city
currently
does
not
have
a
fee
fee
for
an
appeal
of
an
administrative
decision
in
public
works
directly
to
the
city.
Council
staff
is
in
the
process
of
updating
the
city
fee
schedule
to
develop
a
fee
commensurate
with
the
level
of
effort
that
will
be
required
to
process
the
appeal.
The
new
fee
will
be
included
in
the
updated
fee
schedule
coming
before
the
city
council
participated
in
March.
T
Newly
added
to
this
requirement
is
that
no
location
will
automatically
close
the
first
time
it
fails
to
meet
the
minimum
standards.
A
location
that
is
not
compliant
will
be
maintained
and
studied
for
an
additional
year.
This
policy
chain
was
changed
was
expressed
by
traffic
Commissioners
as
a
top
priority.
T
Currently,
under
existing
policy
locations
may
be
closed
with
little
notice
before
the
start
of
a
new
school
year.
The
year's
delay
will
allow
time
to
see
if
new
traffic
patterns
emerge
that
may
influence
the
counts
and
eligibility
staff
will
make
objective
determinations.
Based
only
on
current
data.
We
will
not
re
would
rely
on
studies
done
from
prior
school
years,
and
everything
will
be
done
to
ensure
counts,
conducted
to
reflect
a
typical
school
day.
Counts
are
not
done
close
to
school
holidays
during
inclement
weather
and
when
schools
are
on
special
schedules.
T
One
standard
that
is
being
strengthened
under
this
new
recommendation
is
the
minimum
count
numbers
for
signalized
intersections
traffic
commission
proposes
to
use
the
state
minimum
standard.
The
reason
for
this
is
twofold:
adoption
of
the
state
standard
will
not
impact
any
of
the
four
existing
locations
in
our
program
all
consistently
exceed
the
minimum
State
Standards.
Secondly,
it's
unusual
to
provide
crossing
guards
at
this
type
of
intersection,
because
by
design
it
provides
sufficient
gaps
in
traffic
for
pedestrians
to
cross.
T
With
the
adoption
of
the
proposed
standards,
the
city's
minimum
pedestrian
standard
needed
to
qualify
for
crossing
guard
placement
will
continue
to
be
half
of
the
state
standard
for
uncontrolled
and
stop
intersections
and
will
also
retain
the
lower
floor
for
vehicle
counts.
Furthermore.
With
the
application
of
four
new
criteria,
the
qualifying
numbers
may
be
lowered
even
further
in
certain
circumstances.
T
Lastly,
to
provide
consistency
from
year
to
year
counts
will
comply
with
the
standards
in
the
mut
muc
mutcd,
which
guides
every
traffic
control
related
measurement
used
by
City
staff.
A
professional
traffic
engineering
firm
will
be
hired
to
do
the
counts
annually
going
forward,
including
the
accounts
for
this
spring,
in
order
to
ensure
consistent
application
of
the
standards
and
consistency
with
both
the
existing
City
policy,
as
well
as
state
policy
locations,
must
meet
the
minimum
standards
for
both
pedestrians
and
vehicles
and
meet
those
standards
in
both
the
AM
and
PM
counts.
T
Additionally,
the
proposed
policy
adopts
a
minimum
floor
for
pedestrians,
for
a
location
to
be
approved.
Any
location
with
less
than
10
pedestrians
in
any
count
will
not
be
eligible
for
a
crossing
guard.
The
Pedestrian
minimum
threshold
of
10
is
one
quarter
of
the
widely
accepted
state
standard.
Making
the
proposed
minimum
floor,
the
most
generous
of
any
agency
staff
has
surveyed
turning
our
attention
to
the
four
new
criteria.
T
These
are
the
only
optional
criteria
recognized
by
the
mutcd
other
issues
such
as
lighting,
Landscaping
roadway
shape,
are
not
recognized
and
should
not
influence
minimum
count.
Requirements
under
the
alternative
number
one,
any
location
at
a
controlled
or
uncontrolled
intersection
that
fails
to
meet
just
one
of
the
four
city
council
approved
counting
standards
but
otherwise
fully
meets
the
state
standards
would
be
eligible
for
a
crossing
guard
under
alternative
two.
T
If
a
location
at
an
uncontrolled
intersection
has
a
high
volume
of
vehicles
more
than
one
thousand
vehicles
in
a
60-minute
period,
so
long
as
both
pedestrian
counts
are
10
or
higher.
The
location
is
eligible
for
a
crossing
guard
for
alternative
three,
also
at
an
under
control
intersection.
If
it
has
a
speed
limit
of
40
miles
an
hour
or
higher,
the
minimum
vehicle
standard
is
lowered
by
10
percent.
In
this
case,
from
300
down
to
270.
T
These
last
three
Alternatives
added
the
address
conditions
where
it
is
more
difficult
to
find
a
gap
in
traffic
to
cross.
These
Alternatives
also
address
locations
that
may
be
close
to,
but
not
com,
but
not
completely
meet
the
city
standards
and
could
not
meet
the
exception
granted
under
alternative
one.
T
T
If
Council
approves
the
updated
policy
this
evening,
the
city's
Communications
team
will
create
a
comprehensive
Outreach
system
through
both
digital
and
print
efforts.
These
materials
will
be
made
available
to
schools
and
the
community
so
that
they
can
better
understand
the
policy
and
learn
how
to
engage
in
promoting
walking
campaigns
in
their
neighborhoods.
T
By
leveraging
our
in-house
production
staff
to
TV,
the
team
will
create
modern,
engaging
video
materials
to
support
the
effort
that
can
be
easily
shared
on
social
media
and
through
school
events,
ptas
neighborhood
associations
and
more
with
the
adoption
of
these
standards,
staff
will
be
able
to
consistently
and
objectively
apply
standards
to
crossing
guard
placement
in
the
same
manner.
We
do
all
other
traffic
control
devices.
T
The
adoption
of
these
standards
has
no
immediate
effect
on
any
location
currently
approved.
All
locations
will
be
counted
this
spring
by
a
professional
traffic
engineering
firm
and
the
results
compiled
only
at
that
time
could
any
location
be
recommended
for
addition
or
closure,
and
only
after
the
additional
one
year
of
monitoring.
T
The
proposed
new
standards
will
continue
to
be
the
most
accommodating
of
any
Municipal
agency
in
Ventura
County,
and
the
program
will
remain
one.
The
community
community
can
take
pride
in
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
staff
and
the
26
crossing
guards
supporting
the
program.
No
city
has
a
better
trained
or
better
equipped
group
of
dedicated
Community
residents,
some
of
which
have
been
serving
the
crossing
guard
program
for
over
30
years.
T
T
M
My
first
question
just
really
more
for
The
public's
information
than
mine.
The
reason
we're
here
tonight
we're
talking
about
school
crossing
guards,
but
the
reason
this
is
a
city
government
matter
is
that
these
are
on
city
streets,
and
this
is
City
and
Public.
Safety
is
a
city
responsibility.
Is
that
correct.
U
Good
evening,
Council
Nader
hidari,
a
city
engineer
from
the
survey
results
as
we
look
across
the
county
there's
a
mixture
of
that
there
are
in
many
cases
the
school
district
themselves
provides
that
service
and
in
some
cases
the
city
provides
that
service.
So,
however,
your
indications
are
correct.
These
are
these
are
city
streets
and
we
are
definitely
interested
in
public
safety.
M
Very
much
so
thank
you
in
some
of
my
discussions
with
staff.
They've
indicated
that
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
ongoing
challenges,
especially
now
around
having
crossing
guards,
is
hiring
that
there
are
given,
given
the
the
current
cohort,
which
I
would
agree
with
Mr
Hauser
are
wonderful,
but
but
on
any
given
day,
some
may
be
absent
in
hiring
new
guards
for
either
as
as
temporary
Replacements
or
for
permanent
positions.
There's
been
a
challenge
is
that
is
that
correct?
M
T
A
council
member
I'm
going
to
have
to
defer
to
another
staff
member
for
your
first
question,
but
for
your
second
question,
are
existing
pool
of
crossing
guards
right
now
ranges
from
low
20s
into
their
80s,
and
we
in
fact
are
do
extensive
advertising
on
a
continual
basis.
There
are
actually
notices
at
the
global
Center.
We
actually
talk
to
people
at
the
global
Center,
all
the
time
we
place
frequent
ads
in
local
papers,
WE
Post
notices
we
Outreach
to
the
school
and
parent
organizations.
T
People
have
to
be
available
both
Mornings
in
in
the
afternoon
afternoons,
so
we
find
typically
retired
seniors
college
students
that
have
the
right
schedules,
our
our
best
candidates,
but
it
does
remain
and
to
your
question,
there
is
a
minimum
floor
that
I
would
have
to
defer
to
specifically
to
the
HR
department
but
I
believe
for
this
position.
It
is
age
of
21.
I
Well,
I'll
take
that
piece
and
chief
Paris
and
previous
Chiefs
we've
had
that
conversation
dialogue.
There
has
not
been
a
receptiveness
there,
given
their
purview
and
where
they
are
are
focused.
They
do
a
lot
of
post
accident
work
and
a
lot
of
other
components.
This
would
require
a
consistent
commitment,
so
that's
one
of
those
one
of
those
areas
that
we've
certainly
thought.
I
That
would
seem
to
be
a
logical
piece,
but
when
you
get
into
the
operational
piece
of
the
volunteers
and
policing
it's
there,
it
I
will
add
that
this
is
one
of
the
areas
and
I
know
our
HR
directors
up
there.
This
is
one
of
the
areas
that
we
one
of
the
few
areas
we
have
an
ongoing
Recruitment,
and
so
we
would
certainly
encourage.
We
have
three
vacancies
right
now:
I
believe
that
are
out
there.
We
could
use
all
the
help
and
support
that
we
continue
to
try
varying
avenues
for
that.
I
The
city
council
did
approve
pay
increases
here,
generally
25
an
hour,
some
differentials
there,
but
one
of
the
areas
that
we
do
experience
the
most
attrition
anecdotally
speaking,
tends
to
be
those
areas
that
are
the
fewest
crossed
and
meaning
that
the
the
value
for
the
work
quotient
is
perhaps
not
there.
That's
some
of
the
feedback
we've
received
from
some
of
those
cards
that
have
chosen
to
go
in
in
other
directions.
M
Thank
you
for
that.
A
couple
of
other
questions,
one
you
mentioned
that
the
fee
schedule
for
the
appeal
is
still
under
development.
The
appeal
costs
currently
for
a
decision
by
the
planning
and
I
believe
the
traffic
commissions
is
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
Are
you
able
to
say
if
the
schedule,
the
fee,
that
you're
looking
at
here
for
an
appeal
would
be
closer
to
1500
or
closer
to
zero?
So.
I
I
I'll
take
that
one
as
well,
because
subsequent
conversations
on
that
I
know
that's
been
a
point
of
concern.
We
are
in
the
process
of
updating
our
user
fees.
The
earliest
juncture
that
this
would
even
come
about
would
be
at
a
point
a
couple
years
from
now,
so
in
that
user
for
Our
intention,
and
then
we've
had
this
conversation
with
our
finance
director,
we're
going
to
add
a
new
fee.
I
That
fee
will
be
an
administrative
appeal
up
to
city
council
and
in
this
case
a
report
would
already
be
being
provided
to
the
traffic
commission,
as
called
for
in
the
policy.
So
we
anticipate
that
fee
being
much
closer
to
zero
than
attached
to
a
development
fee,
relatively
nominal,
in
the
scheme
of
of
our
fees,
reflective
and
commiserate
with
the
work
it
would
take
to
provide
for
that.
B
I
would
like
one
clarify
I'll
come
back
to
you
in
just
a
second
hold
on.
Is
that
so
everyone
understands
that
we
have
a
rule
of
three
questions,
and
then
we
can
come
back
to
that
council
member
if
they
still
have
additional
questions
so
councilmember
Newman
go
ahead
with
your
clarification.
Thank
you
mayor.
M
B
J
You
mayor
my
first
question,
so
I
mean
I
walked
to
school
as
a
kid
in
my
friend
group.
Now
everyone
drives
I
I
recognize
the
trend
has
changed
because
of
that,
and
if
there
is
a
school
that
is
no
longer
qualifying
for
the
recommendation
and
are
putting
on
this,
let's
call
it
grace
period
one
year
to
two
years.
What
can
the
school
do,
in
your
perspective,
to
incentivize
kids
to
walk
more
to,
hopefully
get
them
to
bump
up
and
qualify
for
the
program.
V
I
I
would
say
that
again,
I,
don't
necessarily
work
for
the
school
district,
but
I
I
would
I
would
say
that
we
would
encourage
children
to
walk
where
they
can
anyway
and
make
sure
they
understand
that
we
have
crossing
guards
available
at
those
in
locations.
So
education,
and
maybe
just
education-
to
make
them
more
comfortable
crossing
a
street
I
mean
we
need
to
get
all
the
way
back
to
teaching
kids,
how
to
use
a
crosswalk.
J
A
J
J
Oh
so
you
mentioned
that
we
have
policy
that
we're
not
holding
true
to
so
city.
Council
says
this
is
the
requirements.
Schools
are
no
longer
reaching
or
well.
How
would
you
say
that
no
longer
qualifying
and
then
nothing's
happening
because
of
that-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
the
attorney?
Is
there
a
risk
on
our
end
for
having
policy
that
we're
not
upholding.
C
So
I
mean
that's
a
a
broad
question,
so
I'm
going
to
answer
a
broady
for
now
sure
and-
and
that
is
with
with
any
policy
that
the
city
adopts
at
any
agency
adopts.
It
is
imperative
that
the
agency
comply
with
that
policy.
I
mean
the
whole
point
of
adopting
a
policy.
Is
that,
after
analysis,
after
reflection
after
discussion
after
adoption,
the
the
legislative
body
has
decided
that
this
policy
is
what
that
agency
needs
right.
C
So
with
that,
then
you
want
to
be
consistent
with
that
policy
and
whether
it's
a
policy
like
this
one
or
it's
a
policy
about
just
other
aspects,
that
a
city
might
be
involved
in
whether
it's
trees
or
whether
it's
housing
assistance,
whether
it's
electing
somebody
or
or
appointing
somebody.
The
whole
point.
You
heard
it
numerous
times
from
Mr
Hauser,
it's
about
consistency
and
the
TR.
The
the
Trap
is
that
you
have
a
situation
in
which
people
something
happens.
Whatever
it
happens
happens,
but
people
are
looking
at.
Did
you
follow
your
policy
now?
C
The
reality
for
law
is
that
that
will
be
a
factor.
If
a
you
know
an
illegal
process,
when
you
have
some
type
of
incident
and
you're
looking
at
all
these
factors,
what
are
the
facts?
What's
the
law,
of
course,
how
it's
being
applied,
but
also
what
were
the
city
policies?
What
were
the
policies
where
there's
a
city
or
other
agency
or
the
policy
in
place?
And
then
the
next
question
is
going
to
be:
did
you
comply
with
those
policies
right
and
that
could
again?
C
These
are
broad
broad
statements,
because
there
could
be
serious,
serious
ones
such
as
you're,
not
picking
individuals,
because
you're
picking
individuals
a
certain
way
or
a
discriminatory
away,
or
something
like
that,
and
of
course
you
have
a
policy
not
to
do
that
right.
You
didn't
pick
somebody
for
a
position,
although
you
have
a
policy
not
to
discriminate
or
not
to
do
something
in
a
in
proper
way,
but
you're
not
complying
with
that
policy.
So
that's
the
Trap
that
can
happen
so
to
your
point.
C
J
Last
I'm
kind
of
piggybacking
off
of
councilmember
Newman,
for
so
in
our
area,
the
city
covers
basically
this
cost,
and
you
mentioned
that
in
other
cities,
in
our
County
there's
hybrids
or
there's
you
know
times
where
School
comes
in
school
district
comes
in
Pays.
Is
there
a
scenario
for
us
or
what
would
that
look
like?
Is
there
an
option
if
a
school
no
longer
qualifies
for
the
school
to
participate
in
that
regard,
is?
Has
that
been
considered?
T
While
unusual,
we
can
provide
an
example
here
in
Ventura
County,
the
city
of
Ventura
partners,
with
their
school
district.
The
city
pays
for
all
locations
that
meet
the
minimum
qualifications.
In
this
case
they
use
the
state
standard,
the
school
district
funds,
all
locations
that
do
not
meet
the
standards
that
they
wish
to
retain.
In
the
case
of
that,
it's
approximately
25
percent,
the
city
is
paid
at
about
75
percent.
The
school
district
is
paying.
J
B
Q
Adam,
thank
you.
Mayor
well,
I
mean
I
know.
The
city
takes
student
safety
extremely
seriously.
We've
been
doing
since
since
1964
and
I
know
that
we
do
have
occasional
problems
with
crossing
guards
and
getting
them
there.
In
fact,
isn't
it
true
that
there's
been
occasions
where
we've
actually
sent
City
staff
out
to
cover
some
of
these
crosswalks
from
when
we
couldn't
get
the
guards
there
myself.
T
Q
Q
I
mean
especially
with
signalized,
because
you
know
that
gives
you
a
certain
amount
of
time
to
get
across
the
street.
We
even
have
crossword
guards
there
too,
so
it
just
seems
to
me.
We
have
a
very
Vigilant
network
of
crosswalks
and
thank
you
for
getting
out
there,
helping
it's
much
appreciated
and.
B
F
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
just
a
couple
of
questions.
I
think
you
mentioned
that
we
will
go
out
or
actually
hire
a
contractor
to
go
out
and
do
counts.
Is
this
a
single
point
in
time
count?
Is
it
a
several
days
in
a
row?
Is
it
how
do
you?
How
do
you
go
about
verifying
that
it's
not
just
a
bad
day
when
kids
aren't
walking.
T
So
the
count
says
they're
currently
conducted
into
the
standards
would
be.
We
would
count
twice
generally
in
the
same
day
whenever
possible,
and
that
would
be
an
AM
count
for
the
kids
going
to
school
and
then
a
PM
count
as
their
exiting
School.
Those
counts
are
for
a
full
60-minute
period,
even
though,
as
I
have
mentioned,
typically
student
movement
to
and
from
schools
takes
place
in
a
much
shorter
window,
but
we
do
count
everything
within
that
hour
period.
Our
goal
or
to
strive
to
is
to
count
as
many
possible
qualifying
pedestrians
and
vehicles
as
possible.
F
V
You
and
oh
I'm,
sorry
just
add
one
thing
to
that
and
to
make
sure
that
what
you
describe
doesn't
occur,
there's
obviously
communication
with
the
crossing
guard.
Who
has
a
pretty
good
idea
of
how
many
people
they
cross
every
day,
and
you
know
so.
We
would
obviously
ask
them
if
we
got
an
unusually
low
number,
we
would
ask
them
was
that
an
off
day
and
they
would
probably
tell
us-
and
in
that
case
we
would
count
again.
Thank.
F
P
F
Accurate
representation
of
what
happens
at
that
intersection.
Thank
you
when,
according
to
our
to
our
proposal
here,
the
Public
Works
director
or
his
designee
will
determine
based
on
this
the
counts
where
or
what
what
the
locations
either
qualify
or
no
longer
qualify.
What
locations?
Perhaps
we
need
to
enhance
at
what
point?
Is
there
any
school
district
involvement
in
that
type
of
discussion?
In
other
words,
if
you
identify
location,
do
you
let
School
District,
know
and
and
work
with
them
as
far
as
their
viewpoint
on
it.
V
We
we
would
absolutely
as
soon
as
we
get
counts.
We
would
share
that
data
with
the
school
district
again
looking
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
anomalies
there
in
that
data,
we're
looking
for
good
data
so
again,
School
District
knows
how
many
kids
are
walking
to
school.
A
crossing
guard
has
a
pretty
good
feel
we're
looking
for
that.
We're
looking
for
that
Max
day.
Frankly,
we're
looking
for
that
day
that
the
most
kids
are
walking
and
that's
sometimes
it's
easy,
and
sometimes
it's
that
there's
just
they're
just
not
there.
F
What
types
of
things
are
we
going
to
be
doing
with
the
school
district?
How
are
we
going
to
encourage-
and
this
has
to
do
with
what
Mr
Taylor
had
to
talk
about
before?
Can
you
go
a
little
bit
more
into
detail
about
how
we're
going
to
really
try
to
juice
up
the
number
of
people
who
are
going
to
be
going
to
those
locations?
F
W
Good
evening
Council
Alexandra
South,
director
of
strategic
Communications
and
public
affairs,
so
upon
approval
of
the
new
policy,
we
would
create
a
pretty
comprehensive,
Media
Kit
that
we
would
provide
to
schools
in
the
community
digital
assets,
printables
different
ideas
and
thoughts
and
leveraging
our
in-house
production
team
through
Tov
to
create
some
video
pieces
really
filling
in
the
gaps
of
information.
Helping
people
understand
what
it
takes
to
meet
these
requirements
and
how
to
encourage
programs
of
walking
and
biking
with
their
kids
to
school.
To
increase
those
numbers.
If
they're
interested
in
protecting
their
particular
crosswalks.
F
B
First
is
I'm
delighted
we're
keeping
our
current
locations
and
not
make
any
changes
there
we're
very
generous
in
our
numbers.
As
far
as
what
qualifies
for
a
school
crossing
guard
publics
have
come
to
use
to
it.
I
would
like
to
see
more
children
walking
to
school,
but,
as
you
outline
school
choice
as
they
walk
or
they
travel
Now
by
car
to
different
schools
has
become
a
challenge.
Thus
fewer
children
are
walking
to
school.
B
I
have
a
question
for
you:
staff
when
a
class
at
a
school
has
a
field
trip,
jumps
on
a
bus
and
goes
an
off-site
location
or
a
school
has
a
athletic
team
that
has
coaches
and
trainers
and
doctors
on
board
and
so
forth,
and
goes
off
campus
on
a
bus
to
some
other
school
again
they're
on
our
public
streets.
Therefore,
it's
Public
Safety.
Do
we
pay
for
field
trips,
or
do
we
pay
for
athletic
teams
going
elsewhere
onto
our
streets,
because
the
rationale
is
that
I'm
hearing
is
that?
V
B
Very
succinct,
my
friend,
can't
get
any
easier
than
that
in
November
of
22
I
watched
the
traffic
Commission
discuss
this
very
item
and
we
had
a
gentleman
who's.
Our
former
traffic
commissioner
Rick
Lemo,
who
often
says
he's
old,
but
not
that
old.
He
still
remembers
back
in
the
1960s
when
he
was
here.
B
What
struck
me
last
year,
when
this
came
up
on
Council,
was
that
we
started
selling
like
a
school
board
which
schools
which
crosswalks,
how
many
students,
what
time
of
day,
how
many
people
do
we
have
staffed
and
so
forth
and
yeah.
We
can
hit
347
thousand
dollars
in
the
budget
for
paying
for
the
crossing
guards,
but
that
does
not
include
the
human
resource
energy
that's
put
out
there
to
screen.
B
My
request
of
our
city
staff
is
that
we
look
at
other
alternatives
to
perhaps
move
this
management
and
costs
associated
with
the
school
crossing
guard
over
to
cbusd.
My
priority
is
that
anything
we
do.
We
got
to
keep
the
safety
of
the
children
Paramount
that
we
want
to
keep
them
safe
models
can
consist
of
everything
from
we
phase
this
out
over
like
a
three-year
period,
where
the
first
year
we
pay
75
percent
School
Board
paid
25
percent
second
year
50
50.
B
third
year
we
pay
25
percent
School
Board
paid
75
percent
in
the
fourth
year
school
board.
Has
it,
but,
starting
from
day
one
school
board
has
management
of
it.
They
know
their
needs,
they
know
the
issues
and
yes,
if
they
need
data
from
us,
we
can
provide
that
regarding
traffic
and
so
forth,
but
that
frees
us
up
to
do
City
issues,
not
school
board
issues.
F
B
B
Good
so
we'll
open
it
up
to
public
comment
and
we
have
I
believe
eight.
If
I
counted
it
correctly,
we
have
some
on
zoom
and
some
in
person.
First
up
we
have
is
Jackson
Piper
and
then
after
that,
we'll
have
Clint
fultz
Jackson
go
ahead.
You
have
three
minutes
and
I
will
let
you
know
in
the
15
minute
15.
Second
Mark
comes
up.
Go
ahead,
good.
X
X
I
understand
where
the
city
is
coming
from
on
this
and
and
I
do
appreciate
all
the
work
that
City
staff
put
into
it.
I
personally
respect
Mr,
Hauser,
Mr,
Finley
and
everyone
else
on
the
city
staff
that
worked
on
this.
But
I
am
concerned
by
the
fact
that
the
staff
report
mentions
potentially
closing
Five
locations,
because,
basically
the
accounts
don't
seem
to
justify
them.
X
It
seems
to
me
that
the
data
in
this
case
is
kind
of
obscuring
the
real
responsibility
of
the
city
to
protect
residents
and
protect
children
crossing
the
street
and
yeah
it's.
It
could
be
the
school
board's
responsibility
too,
but
it's
it's
definitely
a
municipal
government
in
this
setting,
which
is
basically
contiguous
between
cvsd
and
the
City
of
Thousand,
Oaks
and
I,
would
also
add
that
the
origin
and
destination
relate
to
the
the
transportation
pathway.
X
I
mean
that
that
if
a
student
is
walking
to
school,
the
destination
is
the
school,
but
the
origin
point
is
going
to
be
the
student's
home
and
the
student's
home
is
almost
always
going
to
be
in
this
case,
in
Thousand
Oaks
and
under
City
control,
as
well
as
the
the
roadways
that
the
student
will
walk
on
and
across
to
get
to
that
school.
There
are
some
exceptions,
of
course,
but
I
think
in
general.
That
holds
true.
X
So
it's
if
this
is
a
budget
concern
I
think
the
city
really
needs
to
think
about
the
priority
of
you
know.
If
it's
cutting
eighty
thousand
dollars
or
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
and
a
trade-off
is
you
know,
you
put
lives
at
risk
because
there
are
now
vehicles
moving
through.
You
know
space
that
school
children
are
also
moving
through
and
there's
no
adult
supervision
there
at
the
time,
they're
Crossing
I
think
the
city
really
needs
to
reconsider
that
that
approach.
X
There's
also
the
matter
of
the
fact
that
looking
at
it
as
a
data
problem,
you're
going
to
get
a
certain
pedestrian
count
and
a
certain
vehicle
count
per
hour,
15
seconds
Sir.
But
the
problem
is
not
the
number
of
vehicles.
The
problem
is
the
presence
of
vehicles,
so
unless
you
tame
the
traffic
and
really
stop
people
and
really
make
some
sort
of
visible
marker
for
the
children.
Thank
you,
sir.
We
appreciate.
X
B
Y
My
name
is
Clint
Fulton
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Connecticut
Climate
Coalition.
Thank
you
for
the
informative
presentation.
I
would
hope
that
our
city
could
continue
to
go
beyond
the
minimum
standards
for
providing
crossing
guards.
We
should
all
be
promoting
pedestrian
safety
and
encouraging
everyone
in
our
community
to
get
outside
and
walk
or
utilize
Mobility
devices
when
it
comes
to
the
climate.
Let's
remember
that
approximately
64
percent
of
our
City's
climate
pollution
comes
from
the
Transportation
sector.
We
can't
just
replace
internal
combustion
engine
vehicles
with
electric
vehicles.
Y
B
R
I
am
a
residence
of
Newbury
Park
and
my
children
graduated
from
Newbury
Park
High,
being
alumni
of
Banyan
Elementary
School
from
third
grade
to
fifth
grade.
My
children
either
walked
with
one
of
their
parents
or
rode
their
bike
to
school.
This
was
an
invaluable
opportunity
for
my
kids
and
for
us
as
parents,
it
is
so
important
to
have
our
children
be
able
to
live
in
a
neighborhood
where
they
can
walk
to
school.
That
was
one
of
the
criterias
when
we
purchased
a
home
here
in
Newbury
Park.
R
My
student,
my
child,
also
walked
to
Newbury
Park
High
I
want
to
talk
about
the
experience
and
I
acknowledge
my
privilege
of
living
close
to
an
elementary
school
so
that
my
kids
can
walk
to
school.
I
acknowledge
my
privilege
of
having
family
work
schedules
that
allowed
us
to
take
our
kids
to
school
and
understand
that
some
kids
may
not
walk
to
to
school,
but
they
may
walk
home
from
school.
So
it's
not
always
a
round
trip.
Sometimes
it's
a
one
way,
but
they're
walking
to
school
or
riding
their
bike
to
school.
R
The
experience
of
walking
your
child
to
school
is
something
like
you
won't
experience.
Just
having
your
kid
come
home
from
school.
When
you
pick
them
up,
you
will
have
conversations
with
them.
They
will
ask
you
questions
of
things
they're,
seeing
on
the
ground
Shadows
of
trees,
experiences
of
what
happened
that
school
the
day
before,
where
at
some
times,
you
may
not
get
those
answers
generally,
when
they're
walking
to
school
I'm
sure
other
people
will
inform
you
of
how
important
and
the
benefits
of
children
walking
and
riding
their
bikes
to
school.
R
I
also
want
to
remind
you
of
all
the
business
that
you're
doing
to
make
Tio
Thousand,
Oaks
livable
and
a
pedestrian
friendly
neighborhood
makes
a
safer
neighborhood,
so
I
want
you
to,
and
I
want
to,
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
this
and
see
how
this
crossing
guard,
although
it
may
have
a
price
tag,
I
think
sometimes
the
experience
is
priceless.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
B
Z
Z
Decisions
are
not
made
in
a
vacuum,
and
reverberations
from
one
action
can
negatively
impact
populations
that
may
not
have
been
intended.
The
vast
majority
of
crossing
guards
are
made
up
of
older
adults
who
use
this
additional
income
to
supplement
for
the
rise
in
rent
prescription
costs,
Etc
cost
of
living
is
rising
and
our
older
adults
cannot
live
on
a
fixed
income
without
adding
a
part-time
job.
Z
By
eliminating
this
opportunity,
you
are
placing
our
older
adult
population
at
risk.
Crossing
guard
employment,
provides
an
opportunity
for
older
adults
to
maintain
a
connection
across
generations
and
continue
to
serve
the
community
in
a
viable
way.
Please
consider
this
impact
to
older
adults
who
are
now
moving
back
to
re-engagement
in
the
community
post
pandemic.
New
forms
of
Outreach
to
this
population
that
are
eager
to
reach
your
and
be
part
of
the
workforce
should
be
reviewed
by
the
city.
Think
about
the
joy
that
older
adults
bring
to
the
school
and
City
Community
as
these
gear.
Z
They
care
for
the
safety
of
our
children,
I'm
personally
shocked
by
the
mayor's
statement
to
pass
the
responsibility
of
city
streets
to
the
school
district,
which
is
generally
underfunded.
My
taxpayer
money
goes
to
safety
of
our
streets,
which
I
hope
will
continue
to
go
towards
this
cost.
Thank
you.
B
S
S
Caring,
responsible
individuals
that
I
know
are
considered
like
loved
members
of
the
community
by
the
kids
of
which
they
help
and
I
just
want
to
recognize
them
for
that,
I'm
also
glad
that
no
change
as
far
as
dropping
crossing
guards
is
being
considered
for
the
next
two
years,
at
least
when
we
consider
the
standards
for
consideration
for
crossing
guards.
This
is
an
issue
of
people,
not
statistics
or
metrics.
S
They
may
not
see
whether
we're
talking
about
Jance,
Road
or
Lynn
Road
we're
talking
about
people
driving
at
excessive
rates
of
speed,
even
the
location,
one
very
small
block
away
from
Lynn
across
from
a
dronia
school
at
Marion,
a
half
a
block
away
from
when
people
were
driving
35
40
miles
an
hour.
They
make
that
turn
they're
still
going
quite
fast
when
they
get
to
Marion.
S
Drivers
are
focused
on
turning
from
Lynn.
They
might
be
hurrying
and
not
paying
attention
to
a
student
who
walks
in
front
of
them
when
you
apply
statistics
or
metrics
to
a
human
child
situation,
you
take
for
granted
that
individual
life
of
that
child,
applying
metrics
and
count
to
this
situation
says
there's
low,
there's
a
low
number
of
kids
here.
So
there's
a
smaller
likelihood.
One
will
get
hit
to
that
child
to
that
child's
family.
To
that
child's
School
Community
is
not
the
point
that
it
was
one
child.
What
were
the
odds?
S
B
B
L
L
It
is
hard
for
me
to
understand
why
there
is
any
hesitation
on
ensuring
ongoing
crossing
guards
for
the
schools
in
the
kanejo
valley.
Thousand
Oaks
residents
enjoy
the
many
benefits
our
local
electives
has
have
secured
for
US
Open
Spaces,
the
Arts
and
prioritizing
Public
Safety.
A
great
quality
of
life.
I
am
deeply
concerned
that
our
elected
officials
will
not
be
the
decision
makers
on
such
an
important
issue.
Leaving
decisions
like
this
to
City
staff
takes
a
public
out
of
the
process.
L
Almost
entirely
expect
better
I'm
worried
about
the
safety
of
our
children,
their
family,
their
families,
their
caregivers
and
the
pedestrians
that
benefit
from
the
safety
of
a
crossing
guard
provides
of
tonight's
resolution.
Moves
forward,
I've
always
lived
within
walking
distance
of
our
neighborhood
schools
and
have
seen
the
benefit
that
crossing
guards
provide
a
cheerful
and
familiar
adult
presence.
They
render
Aid
when
a
child
Falls
and
help
everyone
cross
the
street
safely
and
they
ensure
the
safety
of
our
drivers
as
well.
They
are
a
crucial
part
of
our
community.
L
I
spend
a
lot
of
time,
driving
for
and
for
the
most
part,
avoid
school
zones
during
pickup
and
drop-off
times.
Just
recently,
I
was
in
Los
Angeles
County
and
noticed
that
the
pedestrians
were
not
concerned
about
being
hit
by
a
car.
They
had
their
noses
buried
in
their
phones
and
then
here
in
Thousand
Oaks.
Just
the
other
day,
I
was
driving
near
one
of
our
local
middle
schools
and
noticed
that
the
students
were
waiting
to
cross
a
busy
road
that
did
not
have
a
crossing
guard.
They
were
scared
and
ran
across
the
street.
L
The
moment
the
walk
indicator
lit
up
our
streets
are
not
safe
for
our
children.
Think
about
that
for
a
minute.
We
must
do
better
to
ensure
the
health
and
safety
of
our
children.
Thousand
Oaks
is
not
a
place,
a
safe
place
to
walk.
It
is
not
a
safe
place
to
bike
and
it
most
definitely
is
not
a
safe
place
to
cross
the
street
during
drop
off
and
pickup
times.
I
know
that
it
is
a
goal
to
make
Thousand
Oaks
a
more
walkable
and
bikeable
City.
Let's
work
on
that.
L
B
AA
Good
evening
my
name
is
Lauren
Gill
I'm,
a
resident
of
Newbury
Park.
The
first
thing
I
have
to
say
is
that
I'm
puzzled
about
the
fuzzy
logic
that
we're
hearing
on
the
jurisdictional
question.
It
should
be
explicitly
clear
to
everyone
that
the
streets
and
the
people
Belong
To,
The
City
of
Thousand
Oaks,
and
that's
why
we're
here?
That's
why
I'm
in
your
house
you're,
not
in
mine,
the
fact
that
approximately
one-third
of
our
elementary
and
middle
schools
are
in
Jeopardy
of
losing
their
crossing
guards
due
to
decline
in
numbers
of
Walkers
is
not
good
news.
AA
AA
This
policy,
as
it
stands,
falls
short
of
our
shared
Community
Values,
but
it
could
be
dramatically
better
with
just
a
few
changes.
So
I
have
a
couple
of
specific
asks
for
you
before
we
can
evaluate
the
need
for
crossing
guards
based
on
pedestrian
counts.
We
have
to
restore
a
basic
sense
of
safety.
The
hardest
realization
for
me
is
that
three
of
our
school
sites
that
are
eligible
for
crossing
guards,
Aspen,
Banyan
and
Madrona,
have
been
without
their
crossing
guard
for
the
entire
school
year.
AA
AA
AA
So
my
first
request
is
that
we
fully
staff
the
existing
eligible
crossing
guard
locations.
We
can't
expect
numbers
of
Walkers
to
increase
until
we
put
a
grown
up
there
to
make
it
safe
and
if
you
have
any
doubt,
I
invite
you
to
cross
Lin
Road
at
Knollwood
on
your
way
to
Banyan
Elementary,
even
as
an
adult
it
is
hair
raising.
AA
AA
AA
AB
AB
Bus
city
of
Thousand,
Oaks,
hi,
everyone
I
just
want
to
start
with.
I
am
a
child
of
the
80s
in
this
town
and
as
one
of
your
council
members
mentioned,
we
used
to
walk
to
school.
We
used
to
ride
our
bikes
to
school.
Those
things
don't
happen
anymore,
as
was
mentioned
by
the
same
council.
Member
I
happen
to
walk
my
kids
to
school
every
day.
I
don't
need
a
crossing
guard
in
the
neighborhood
I'm
in,
but
I
do
have
to
cross
three
intersections.
AB
AB
Chief
can
probably
tell
you
that
I've
talked
to
Sergeant
Patterson
numerous
times
about
the
lack
of
traffic
control
in
that
area.
Most
of
it
is
from
parents
trying
to
get
their
kids
to
school
on
Friday.
The
parent,
who
almost
hit
me
in
the
intersection,
still
had
their
kid
in
the
car.
They
were
late
and
rushing.
AB
That's
what
we
deal
with
today
and
when
you're
talking
about
removing
a
Crossing,
Garden,
saving
yourself,
forty
six
thousand
dollars
and
forty
six
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
for
five
crossing
guards
in
schools.
You're
talking
about
putting
a
six
seven,
eight
nine-year-old,
Child,
In
Harm's
Way,
instead
of
a
six
foot,
four
300
pound
man-
if
they
don't
see
me
they're,
definitely
not
going
to
see
a
kid
and
that's
the
way
it
works
right
now
all
of
us
have
been
pushing
for
greater
density
in
this
town.
AB
You
guys
are
ignoring
the
principles
of
maybe
encouraging
greater
students
going
to
school
in
alternate
Transportation
methods
as
a
city,
you
know
to
our
citizens
as
a
way
of
kind
of
fostering
that
those
are
things
that
are
going
to
have
to
happen
anyway,
if
we're
going
to
be
building
Greater
density.
So
why
not
start
that
conversation
with
our
citizens?
Now?
Maybe
we
can
get
people
out
of
their
cars,
get
them
walking
their
kids
to
school.
Again,
this
isn't
just
a
a
private
or
a
public
school
issue.
There
are
private
schools
in
our
communities
as
well.
AB
Carden
Academy
is
where
trampoline
used
to
be.
Can
we
get
those
parents
maybe
to
walk?
Can
we
get
them
to
take
alternate
Transportation
methods?
There's
a
number
of
other
private
schools?
We
could
reach
out
to
you,
as
a
city,
have
the
power
to
do
that.
Cvusd
only
has
control
over
their
own
individual
schools
and,
as
for
the
question
as
to
whether
or
not
the
city
is
responsible
for
after
hours,
transport
for
kids,
the
reality
is.
Is
that
we're
not
asking
you
to
buy
these
kids
shoes
or
bikes
the
transportation
methods
they
take?
AB
B
B
E
Okay,
Barbara
sponsor
from
Newbury
Park
I,
have
a
prepared
speech
which
I
guess
I'm
going
to
say,
but
I
certainly
have
some
other
comments
to
make
which
I'll
just
write
a
letter
to
the
editor
I.
Don't
like
your
snide,
looks
and
comments
that
you're
making
every
time
someone
says
something
you
don't
agree
with:
okay,
so
here's
my
here
goes
for
many
years:
the
traffic
commission,
the
city
council,
been
trying
to
defund
or
delete
the
crossing
guard
program.
E
It
is
my
understanding
at
least
one
council
person
believes
that
Crossing
program
is
unnecessary
and
this
program
is
the
responsibility
of
the
school
board.
I
too,
have
done
research,
and
this
program
is
supported
and
run
by
other
cities,
because
this
is
a
traffic
commission.
You
know
cars,
trucks.
You
know
tell
me
how
this
program
has
anything
to
do
with
educating
the
children.
It
is
a
city
responsibility,
crossing
guards
are
located
close
to
the
freeway
exits
in
Newbury
Park.
A
number
of
years
ago,
the
sheriff's
department
hired
a
full-time
police
officer
to
handle
human
trafficking.
E
It
the
officer
was
so
busy.
They
had
to
hire
put
another
full-time
officer
on
duty.
Recently
I
heard
the
cartela
recruiting
young
people
to
help
with
human
trafficking
children
to
join
them
years
ago.
We
were
only
concerned
about
the
safety
of
the
children
crossing
the
street.
This
is
a
public
safety
program,
not
a
political
football
being
thrown
around
using
the
children.
E
This
is
a
small
budget
item
in
comparison
to
the
overall
budget.
Twice
when
I
was
in
high
school
walking
to
school,
two
men
two
different
times
tried
to
get
me
to
go
in
their
car
it.
The
second
one
was
a
very
dangerous
police
officers
were
across
the
street,
saw
it
was
happening,
took
action
arrested
the
offender,
our
children
need
crossing
guards.
This
policy
draft
is
written
in
order
to
decrease
and
stop
the
crossing
guard
program.
I
happen
to
know
one
of
The
Pedestrian
vehicle
counts
was
done
while
the
schools
were
closed.
E
E
Latchkey,
kids
need
really
need
this,
sometimes
the
only
adult
they
ever
see.
Also
have
you
contacted
the
police
to
find
how
many
accidents
are
on
this
street
when
it's
not
school
time?
A
lot
Reno
needs
one
they've,
flipped,
so
many
cars
and
that
intersection
it's
ridiculous.
There's
been
very
little.
E
B
AC
The
letter
that
kanejo
onito
sent
lays
out
our
major
concerns.
First,
while
I
can
appreciate
that
City
staff
and
t-tac
did
their
best
to
come
up
with
standards
more
generous
than
those
created
by
the
state.
If
the
result
is
that
our
city
loses
9
out
of
24
crossing
guard
locations,
it's
not
a
good
rubric
and
it's
not
aligned
with
our
Community
Values.
We
want
our
streets
to
be
safe
for
our
kids
to
bike,
walk
Skate
and
Scoot
to
school
in
Thousand
Oaks.
Second,
the
potential
outcomes
of
this
policy
sends
a
terrible
message
to
families.
AC
AC
Third,
while
the
policy
May
support
the
city's
fiduciary
responsibilities,
it
contradicts
other
City
goals
such
as
providing
an
open,
responsive
and
transparent
government
and
a
strong
commitment
to
Public
Safety.
This
new
policy
would
make
it
much
harder
for
community
members
to
weigh
on
on
potential
cuts
and
takes
the
decision
out
of
the
hands
of
our
elected
officials.
AC
Members
of
the
public
should
always
have
an
opportunity
to
share
our
concerns
with
you
on
issues
that
impact
our
kids
and
we
shouldn't
have
to
file
an
appeal
and
pay
a
fee
to
do
so
to
fulfill
the
goal
of
a
strong
commitment
to
Public
Safety.
Our
city
should
look
to
do
more,
not
less,
as
is
the
new
standards,
do
not
even
take
all
aspects
or
context
into
account
for
three
of
the
schools
with
the
lowest
pedestrian
counts.
The
position
hasn't
been
consistently
filled
for
more
than
a
year.
AC
AC
AC
Thankfully
it
was
a
slow-moving
car
and
the
boy
only
ended
up
with
some
scrapes
bruises
and
a
bent
Tire,
but
as
I
waited
with
him
for
the
paramedics,
I
helped
him
call
his
mom
he'd
been
so
brave
up
until
that
point,
but
when
he
heard
her
voice,
he
started
to
cry
my
mama
heart
broke
in
that
moment.
We
all
know
that
the
outcome
of
that
accident
could
have
been
much
worse.
AC
B
AD
Hi
Betsy
Conley
resident
of
Lynn
Ranch
unincorporated
pocket
across
from
the
Oaks
Mall
I,
want
to
address
two
things
that
were
said
during
the
meeting.
One
I
want
to
say
that
it
is
true
that
the
new
policy
counts
are
more
generous
than
the
existing
policy,
but
the
real
reason
why
that
a
number
of
crossing
guards
has
remained
steady
using
the
old
current
less
generous
policy
is
that
former
city
councils
have
saved
schools
and
the
new
policy
eliminates
that
Avenue,
where
each
crossing
guard
elimination
decision
comes
to
you.
AD
AD
I
also
heard
someone
ask
about
the
need
for
crossing
guards
that
signalized
intersections
and
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
that
the
answer
to
this
question
is
right.
Hand
turn
on
red
and
I
have
witnessed
people
hit
in
signalized
intersections
kids
on
the
way
to
school,
with
bicycles,
because
I
live
Redwood
is
on
the
opposite
side
of
Lynn
road.
From
me
on
Camino
manzanus,
and
that
is
a
very
popular
right
hand,
turn
on
red
onto
a
fast-moving
Road
people.
AD
Drivers
look
left
to
see
oncoming
traffic,
they
hit
the
gas
and
they
don't
realize
that
someone
is
in
the
intersection.
So
if
we're
going
to
stop
supporting
signalized
intersections,
they
need
to
become
no
right
turn
on
red
or
you
need
to
eliminate
the
possibility
of
Crossing
on
that
side
of
the
road
because
they
are
not
safe
at
all
and
people,
trust,
lights,
kids,
trust,
lights,
adults,
trust
lights
and
they
go
with
less
caution
than
they
do
in
an
unprotected
intersection.
So
don't
be
confused
about
that.
AD
B
D
AE
AE
18
years
ago
we
chose
a
Thousand
Oaks
neighborhood
with
a
great
neighborhood
school
that
my
children
could
walk
to
her
bike
to
I
have
fond
memories
of
pushing
my
toddler
and
his
stroller
to
walk
the
few
blocks
to
pick
up
my
kindergartner
after
school
and
all
these
years
later,
it's
a
joy
watching
families
walk
with
their
young
children
around
my
neighborhood
and
to
and
from
school
I.
Imagine
many
families
chose
Thousand
Oaks
for
similar
reasons.
AE
We
did,
but
my
personal
observations
Aren't
Enough
of
an
argument
as
to
why
crossing
guards
near
schools
and
our
important
issue
for
our
city
and
why
this
policy
is
the
wrong
policy.
As
currently
written,
we
can
look
at
the
recent
General
Plan
update
process
to
remind
ourselves
of
the
values
and
wishes
of
this
city
and
its
residents.
Over
the
past
couple
of
years,
there's
been
data
collected
through
countless
meetings
and
forums
and
surveys
whereby
we've
learned
what
Thousand
Oaks
residents
love
about
this
city
and
how
they
Envision
its
future.
AE
I
went
back
this
week
and
looked
at
documents
from
that
process.
Time
and
time
again,
it's
open
space,
it's
the
outdoors,
it's
the
Parks,
it's
the
trails,
it's
safety,
it's
Community,
being
proactive
and
creating
Safe,
Streets
and
encouraging
walking
and
biking
is
ultimately
better
for
our
kids,
our
families
and
our
community.
Tonight,
we've
heard
about
a
lot
about
objective
criteria,
counts,
consistency
and
measurement.
AE
Objective
criteria
can
be
useful,
but
it's
only
one
piece
of
the
puzzle,
ideally
we'll
utilize,
a
range
of
data
and
information
types
in
any
decision
making
when
thinking
about
Street
safety
and
Public
Safety
and,
ultimately
the
importance
of
our
crossing
guards.
There's
so
much
that
can't
be
solved
or
explained
by
just
numbers:
I'm
talking,
Community
cohesion,
trust
relationships,
pedestrians
feeling
safe,
a
community
taking
care
of
all
of
its
kids.
AE
It's
not
so
much
about
the
numbers
of
cars
or
kids,
but
the
presence
of
cars
or
kids.
Also.
We
should
not
rely
solely
on
objective.
Not
only
should
we
not
rely
solely
on
objective
criteria,
we
should
leave
decision
making
on
issues
like
this
of
Public
Safety
within
the
purview
of
council,
so
that
Community
input
can
be
heard
and
addressed
quote.
AE
Providing
government
that
promotes
transparency
and
responsiveness
to
Residents
and
quote
is
a
city
goal,
and
there
have
been
numerous
Community
conversations
these
past
few
years
about
how,
as
a
city,
we
need
to
get
better
at
including
a
wider
range
of
voices
when
it
comes
to
ensuring
that
intersections
near
schools
are
safe.
Let's
Center
the
decision
around
what
we
truly
value
and
prioritize
in
our
community.
AE
B
AF
Thank
you,
so
I
am
a
teacher
in
Canal.
My
husband
is
the
Deputy
in
Thousand
Oaks.
We
were
raised
by
Thousand
Oaks
and
grew
up
to
be
public
servants
in
Thousand
Oaks.
We
should
be
the
family
that
this
city
wants
to
keep
here.
One
of
the
reasons
we
chose
to
settle
in
Thousand
Oaks
with
our
four
kids
is
because
of
the
safety
and
the
environment
we
grew
up
in
I
walked
to
Cypress
Elementary
every
single
day
as
a
child.
My
husband
walked,
abandoned
Elementary
every
single
day
as
a
child.
AF
My
children
can't
walk
like
their
dad
did
from
their
grandparents
house,
which
is
the
same
house
that
he
walked
to
Banyan
from
every
day.
I'm
glad
that
Mr
gorbach,
Miss
Gill
and
Miss
Holland
all
mention
this
particular
intersection
of
Lyndon
Knollwood
near
Banyan,
because
it's
a
big
problem.
The
conversations
that
Council
had
before
public
comments
was
how
schools
can
keep
their
crossing
guards,
but
there
are
schools,
Who,
currently,
don't
have
one
at
all.
How
are
they
supposed
to
get
something
back
that
doesn't
exist
right
now,
Lynn
Road
has
a
speed
limit
of
over
50..
AF
AF
I
would
love
for
my
kids
to
be
able
to
walk
from
their
grandparents
house,
so
I
can
get
to
work
on
time,
while
my
husband's
out
protecting
the
city,
but
I
can't
do
it.
In
fact,
I
drive
from
the
preschools
across
Lynn
to
Banyan
every
single
day
and
I,
don't
feel
safe
in
my
car
Crossing
that
intersection.
That's
how
fast
that
the
cars
are
going
and
around
what
I
know
isn't
considered
and
the
criteria
is,
but
essentially
a
blind
turn.
So
by
the
time
you
start
walking
the
cars
that
are
coming
at.
AF
I'm
concerned
that
the
argument
that
was
being
held
was
that
the
city
shouldn't
be
responsible
for
keeping
kids
safe
because
of
money.
I
work
for
the
school
district,
I
understand
money.
I
absolutely
see
why
budget
is
important,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
is
the
budget.
So
small
is
the
budget
for
crossing
guards
so
large
that
it's
worth
more
than
the
cost
of
a
dead
child?
AF
B
AF
P
Yeah
I'll
start
just
very
briefly:
I'll
touch
on
the
jurisdictional
issue.
Right
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
the
Education
Code
specifically
allows
for
school
districts
to
hire
crossing
guards,
and
the
vehicle
code
specifically
allows
cities
to
fire
crossing
guards
right
and
you'll
see
that
that
that
models
out
in
the
in
the
state
right
some
school
districts
provide
them.
Some
cities
provide
them.
Could.
P
But
the
issue
that
we
have
tonight
is
whether
or
not
the
city
wants
to
move
forward
with
a
sustainable
policy.
That's
going
to
be
able
to
be
implemented
well
into
the
future.
I.
Don't
think
this
is
really
a
budget
issue.
This
is
an
issue
of
the
city,
establishing
a
policy
that
it
can
that
can
be
consistent
and
that
we
can
stick
with
well
into
the
future
and
just
one
final
point:
I
know
there
is
a
lot
of
talk
about
locations
that
do
not
have
a
card.
P
C
If
I
may
add
something
else
as
well
tonight,
we
heard
a
lot
of
comments
regarding
having
the
director
implement.
The
policy
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
we
have
this
process
in
which
the
city
council
has
a
has
adopted,
not
just
this
policy
but
numerous
policies
and
it's
staff's
obligations,
staff's
duty
to
implement
those
policies.
C
C
C
It's
concerning
to
me
that
that
we
we
use
that
word
tonight
with
with
some
type
of
accusation
that
the
city,
the
city,
council,
City
staff,
the
Public
Works
director,
the
Public
Works
staff
traffic,
the
city
attorney's
office,
that
we
are
not
looking
at
all
state
and
city
and
federal
standards
that
we
have
to
ensure
numerous
safety
features
that
we
permit
in
our
city.
And
you
can
look
at
crosswalk
enhancements.
C
So
there
is
no
perfect
method
to
ensure
you
know
everyone's
safe,
no
matter
what
we
can't,
we
can't
do
that.
So
what
we
have
done,
though,
is
we
look
at
our
streets
and
we
say
how
can
we
enhance
that?
We've
done
that
with
bicycle
paths?
How
can
we
enhance
it?
We've
done
it
with
crosswalks
new
signaling.
How
can
we
do
it
with
the
schools
and
the
crosswalks
by
coming
up
with
an
objective
standard
that
makes
it
easier
for
us
for
school
districts
to
meet
those
standards?
C
So
I
I
want
to
say
that,
because
there
could
be
a
lot
of
factors
for
an
accident
that
can
happen.
It's
not
just
necessarily
one
component,
but
you
can
have
every
safety
feature.
You
have
a
red
light
and
we
know
this
for
all
of
us
to
understand
this,
but
I
just
need
to
say
it
that
you
can
have
a
very
specific
Perfect,
Design
intersection
and
someone
that's
not
paying
attention.
Someone,
that's
texting,
someone!
C
That's
driving
out
of
the
influence,
the
all
those
things
are
going
to
come,
get
it
make
all
those
all
that
work
meaningless,
because
they're
not
going
to
be
doing
what
they
need
to
do.
Speed
is
another
example.
I
heard
that
a
lot
tonight
and
again,
there's
ways
to
address
that
speed,
whether
it's
through
enhanced.
C
You
know,
review
of
an
area,
more
enhancement
with
the
police,
taking
a
look
at
something
like
that,
and
those
have
impacts,
but
I
I
want
to
make
that
clear,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
have
a
policy
that
we're
presenting
to
you.
It's
it.
Staff's
position
is
that
this
is
a
policy
that
enhances
what
was
before
you,
the
previous
policy
and
so
again,
I
want
to
encourage
you
that
we
should
be
adopting
a
policy
whether
it's
the
old
one
or
whether
it's
a
new
one.
C
V
I'd
like
to
make
a
few
comments
and
I
know:
you've
heard
this,
but
I'm
gonna
say
it
one
more
time.
This
is
absolutely
not
a
budget
issue
and
in
fact,
we've
proposed
a
policy
that
is
more
generous.
We
would
love
it
if,
first
of
all,
if
we
could
fill
all
the
crossing
guard
locations
we
have
so
this
is
a
call
to
the
community.
V
Please
join
us
and
help
cross
these
kids
safely
at
these
crosswalks
that
we
can't
fill
we're
currently
down
five
locations
at
this
point
in
time,
and
we've
been
down
three
for
for
close
to
a
year,
so
everybody
out
here
tonight
can
actually
help
the
city
help
those
kids
we
have
crosswalks
authorized.
We
have
yellow
vests
and
stop
signs.
We
need
folks
to
come
down,
we'll
even
pay
you.
We
need
folks
to
come
down
twice
a
day
and
and
help
those
kids
get
across
the
street.
However
many
they
are
we'd
appreciate
that
mostly.
V
Most
importantly,
the
reason
we
brought
this
this
item
forward
to
council
is:
we
need
a
policy
that
is
objective
that
we
can
predict
and
we
can
manage
efficiently
and
effectively.
That's
my
job
I'm,
a
public
works
director
this
this
task
falls
under
my
work
plan
and
it
is
very,
very
difficult
to
manage
a
project
manage
a
budget
manage
anything
hiring
Etc
without
knowing
what
you're,
what
without
being
able
to
look
ahead
and
project.
Now,
when
this
policy
was
put
together,
it
was
put
together.
V
The
very
first
item
was
to
say:
it's
not
one
year
of
data,
it's
two
years
of
data.
The
purpose
of
that
was
as
a
as
a
as
a
call
to
Arms
Community
this.
This
Crossing
isn't
isn't
meeting
any
standards,
the
city's
very
generous
standards.
Why
is
that?
Is
there
something
we
can
do
better
it?
We
don't
we're
not
taking
the
Cross
guard
away.
That's
not
going
to
happen
if
we
could
get
somebody
to
fill
that
spot.
V
We
want
the
data
that
shows
people
are
walking
to
school
and
we
know
the
cars.
Are
there
I've
heard
an
awful
lot
of
comments
tonight
about?
Well,
it's
the
drivers.
The
drivers,
the
drivers,
they
don't
stop,
they
don't
see
they're
driving
too
fast.
You
know
what
those
drivers
I'm,
sorry
are
all
the
folks
that
live
in
your
neighborhoods,
dropping
their
kids
off
at
school,
etc,
etc.
Yes,
we
need
to
educate
them
as
well.
V
V
We
we
definitely
want
a
partnership.
We
definitely
want
to
move
this
program
forward
and
we
understand
that
we're
coming
off
of
two
years
or
three
years
of
pandemic.
Where
a
lot
a
lot
thing
things
changed,
not
as
many
people
were
walking,
we
want
to
return
to
normal.
We
want
kids
walking
to
school
riding
their
bike
feeling
safe.
So
so
that
is
our
goal,
but
we
need
to
have
a
predictable
policy
so
that
we
can
plan
ahead
for
the
next
two
years,
the
next
four
years,
the
next
eight
years.
Etc.
V
That's
that's
really
our
goal.
It's
it's
not
to
take
crossing
guards
away.
I'd
love
it
if
we
add
them
again
we're
at
24
today
we're
at
39,
Watts,
I,
don't
know
what
the
right
number
is,
the
right
number.
There
is
a
right
number
and
we
need
to
get
there
we're
not
taken
away
from
signalized
intersections
again
more
than
half
of
our
crosswalks
meet
state
standards.
V
U
That
was
discussed
a
few
times
with
a
comment
that
the
reason
why
no
one's
Crossing
is
because
there's
no
guard
there,
but
we
have
data
going
back
10
years
and
most
of
that
10-year
period
did
have
crossing
guards
there,
and
for
that
10-year
period
there
was
still
extremely
low
numbers
of
pedestrians
Crossing
at
those
particular
intersections,
so
that
that
issue
is
not
isolated.
Just
to
this
last
year
or
two,
as
always
mentioned
this,
this
policy
it
will
be
flexible
and
adaptable
and
evolve.
U
The
you
know
we're
hearing
everyone
say
a
similar
thing
that
they
want
a
policy
that
you
know
they
want
to
be
the
best
city.
In
the
in
the
county,
we
want
the
the
best
possible
policy
for
our
students
and
that
that's
what
we
believe
we're
presenting
tonight.
That's
exactly
what
we're
presenting
tonight,
a
policy
that's
more
generous
than
any
other
one
in
the
county
and
more
generous
and
more
accommodating
than
the
existing
one
that
the
city
has
and
that
that's
I.
That's
the
the
end
of
my
comments.
Thank
you.
Any.
B
Q
Adam,
thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you
very
much
now,
just
a
couple
of
things.
I
think
you
can
tell
from
Mr
Finley's
comments
that
he
is
a
strong
advocate
for
our
kids
and
Public
Safety
and
crosswalks.
Thank
you.
Cliff
appreciate
that
very
much.
Secondly,
as
has
been
said,
this
is
without
question,
not
a
budget
issue.
It's
it's
a
quarter
of
one
percent
of
our
general
fund.
It's
infinitesimal!
It's
got
nothing
to
do
with
money
and
also
on
a
personal
note.
Q
I
used
to
walk
to
school
and
my
crosswalk
person
was
Lois
I.
Remember
to
this
day,
I'm
sure
Lois
is
at
the
grace
crosswalk
in
the
sky.
Right
now,
but
Lois
always
made
me
feel
safe
crossing
the
street
and
she
even
knew
my
name
and
would
say
hello
to
me
so
Mr
gorbach.
He
got
a
point
there.
It's
more
than
just
money,
kids,
get
to
know
the
crosswalk
guards
and
it
provides
a
sense
of
security.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
thing
and
has
been
stated
at
infinitum.
The
policy
suggested
tonight.
Q
I
mean
we
sent
it
down
to
the
traffic
commission
and
they
didn't
come
back
with
something
stricter.
They
came
back
with
something
even
less
restrictive
and
the
word
generous
has
been
used
over
and
over
again
tonight
and-
and
we
do
have
the
most
generous
policy
in
the
in
the
county,
and
now
we
can
take
into
consideration
vehicle
count,
speed
the
width
of
the
street
things
that
we
never
even
considered
before
so
I
I
think
Mr,
Finley's
right,
you
know,
he's
got
to
operate
with
an
objective
policy.
Q
What
the
council's
done
over
the
years
has
made
it
subjective
and
okay,
there's
some
Merit
to
that,
but
it's
also
not
necessarily
Fair,
because
then
other
folks
come
forward
and
say
well,
if
you're
going
to
give
a
crosswalk
to
these
people
that
don't
meet
the
standards,
why
can't
we
get
one
so
anyway,
objective
versus
subjective,
Mr,
Finley's,
talking
about
a
policy
that
that
he
can
operate
with
and
as
for
me
personally,
I
don't
want
to
see
any
crosswalks
closed
period,
none
of
them.
It's
great
that
we
have
them.
Q
In
fact,
I
want
to
see
the
questions
that
we
have
improved
if
possible
and
I
want
to
see
more
crosswalks,
because
more
crosswalks
means
a
healthy
City.
More
Crossroads
means
more
students.
More
questions
mean
more
people
walking
it's
kind
of
like
a
litmus
test
for
a
city,
so
I
I
want
to
see
more
crosswalks
and,
as
Cliff
said,
we
used
to
have
39
crosswalks
we're
down
to
24.
Now,
why
is
that
school
enrollments
dropping
we've
lost
I?
Q
Think
like
3,
000
kids
in
the
last
five
years
for
various
reasons,
school
choice
affects
that
you
can
go
to
any
school
now,
so
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
go
to
the
one.
That's
right
around
the
corner
from
you,
so
that
puts
people
in
cars.
So
that's
the
kind
of
situation
we're
dealing
with
it's
a
it's
a
fundamental
fact,
but
I
think
tonight.
Q
You
know
we
have
a
real
opportunity
here
to
turn
the
tide
with
getting
people
kids
walking
again,
because
we
have
representatives
from
the
school
district.
Here
we
have
the
city
council
members.
Here
we
have
our
Public
Works
staff.
Here
we
have
our
our
Sheriff,
our
our
chief
of
police.
Here
all
these
groups
can
work
together,
I
think,
and
we
also
have
Alexander
South
who's,
already
preparing
a
presentation
to
show
to
different
schools,
work
together
to
get
kids
walking
again
and
to
bring
those
counts
up.
That's
what
we
need.
Q
We
need
walking
student
accounts
to
go
up,
so
we
can
put
in
more
crosswalks
and
maintain
the
ones
we
have
so,
and
that's
that's
really
up
to
us.
That's
the
opportunity
that
I
see
here
because
believe
me,
the
city,
believes
in
walkability
I've
been
sitting
here
for
a
long
time
and
everything
we
do
as
far
as
building
we're
thinking
about
walkability
all
the
projects
that
we
approve.
The
first
thing
we
ask
is
it
walkable?
Q
Can
people
get
out
of
their
cars
and
walk
so
we
we
spent
20
million
dollars,
trying
to
make
this
city
more
walkable.
So
believe
me,
we
are
dedicated
to
that.
It's
one
of
the
big
factors
that
we
look
at
so
you
know
going
forward.
Let's
all
work
together
to
try
to
get
those
student
counts
numbers
up
Betsy.
You
know
how
to
do
it.
You
know
who
to
talk
to
you're
an
influential
member
of
the
community.
There's
a
lot
of
people
that
could
help
with
that
effort
and
we're
willing
to
do
it
too.
Q
B
O
B
F
F
Either
way's,
okay,
all
right,
no
I'm,
I'm,
fine,
we'll
just
go
forward,
but
I
I.
Think
that
just
discussion
on
on
tonight,
I'll
have
to
agree
with
my
colleague.
For
me.
I
can
only
speak
to
myself.
For
me,
this
has
never
been
about
the
money.
It
is
infinitesimal
in
the
amount
of
money
that
the
budget
puts
out.
It's
it's
I
would
never
equate
a
dollar
amount
to
to
Safety
in
our
city.
That
comes
from
me,
who
spent
a
lifetime
in
public
safety.
F
F
How
do
we
marry
those
two
concepts
in
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
to
to
the
to
the
staff
to
this
to
the
council
to
the
public
I
think
we
are
doing
our
bit
on
on
making
our
streets
safe
we've
done
as
as
several
times
tonight,
people
have
mentioned
all
the
projects
that
we
are
doing
to
try
to
make
the
same
more
walkable
and
safe
streets
for
our
for
our.
For
our
bicycles
and
everybody
else,
I
think
it's
undeniable.
F
The
number
of
projects
and
the
amount
of
resources
put
toward
those
projects
is
remarkable
and
I
think
we
have
the
streets
to
show
for
it.
Thousand
Oaks,
it's
a
point
of
Pride
for
me,
I
think
a
point
of
Pride
to
most
of
us
in
the
community
that
we
try
to
do
the
extra
bit.
Are
we
required
to
do
crossing
guards?
No.
O
F
Not
do
we
do
it
because
that's
a
service
that
we
want
to
provide
for
our
citizens.
Yes,
that's
an
extra
service
that
we're
bringing
to
our
citizens.
I'm,
proud
of
that
and
I
think
we.
We
should
continue
to
do
that
into
the
future,
because
that's
been
our
tradition
for
one
and
it
is
a
service
added
service
to
our
community.
F
I
I've
mentioned
one
of
one
of
my
friends
in
the
community
that,
when
I
moved
here
and
I
think
when
all
of
us
moved
here,
I,
don't
think
the
fact
that
the
city
was
well
was
is
a
well-run
city
and
that
we
have
great
city
workers.
That
was
not
one
of
the
considering
factors
for
me
to
move
here.
It
was
the
open
space
and
the
schools
was
the
reason.
I
came.
A
F
F
I
would
I
would
love
to
see
more
more
kids,
walking
to
school
I
mean
I.
I
want
to
have
more
crossing
guards
at
our
on
our
at
our
streets
and
I
would
love
to
get
more
interaction
with
our
school
district
I
think
we
can
accomplish
that
with
having
a
set
of
objective
standards.
That
indicates
where
we
need
to
look
for
and
work
on,
so
that
we
can
concentrate
our
efforts
on
those
areas
where
we
can
have
the
most
influence.
F
F
By
the
same
token,
if
there
are
physical
issues
with
a
street
Crossing,
it's
too
wide
this
the
traffic
is
too
fast.
We
we
don't
have
an
enhanced
crosswalk.
Is
there
a?
Are
there
physical
reasons?
Do
we
need
to
put
bulb
outs
to
help
create
a
better
walking
situation?
Then
that's
something
we
need
to
hear
from
the
schools.
F
These
are
things.
I
think
that
we
can
partner
with
I,
see
this
as
an
opportunity
to
go
forward
with
objective
standards
that
identify
the
areas
we
need
to
work
on,
get
to
at
least
two
years
to
work
on
that
issue
and
then
try
to
come
to
a
point
where
we
address
the
reason
why
that
area
is
not
being
utilized.
F
AD
M
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
want
to
Echo
the
the
comments
of
my
colleagues.
Firstly
in
thanking
staff
and
and
much
more
importantly,
in
emphasizing
that
all
of
us,
be
it
Council,
be
it
the
staff.
That's
here
tonight
be
IT
staff.
That's
not
here
tonight,
be
it
our
partners
on
the
school
board,
be
it
all
of
you
in
the
public
who
have
come
to
present
your
views
tonight.
M
M
Mr
Heater
will
apply
his
hands
to
my
throat.
If
I
don't
disclose
that
I
have
had
three
ex-part
day
communications
from
residents
about
this
matter,
I,
don't
think
they
will
affect
my
ability
to
make
a
fair
and
impartial
vote
tonight.
But
I
I
do
want
to
disclose
that
I
have
had
conversations
about
this
topic
with
actually
three
people
who
are
here
tonight
who
have
contacted
me
with
concerns
that
is
Dr,
Connolly,
Miss,
Holland
and
and
the
president
of
the
school
board
Dr
Gill
Ms
Gill
anyway.
M
The
process
concern
I
have
is
around
the
deferral
of
this
I
I.
Don't
have
any
problem
at
all
with
the
formula
or
the
very
competent
ability
of
our
staff
to
to
Implement
that
formula.
That's
that's
not
a
concern
at
all,
but
but
rather
in
the
right
of
you,
the
public,
to
petition
the
government
for
redress
of
grievances.
We
all
took
an
oath,
it's
right
there
in
the
First
Amendment.
We
all
took
an
oath
to
to
have
that
ability
for
the
public
to
have
it
say
now.
There
is
a
process
defined
here
of
appeal.
M
We
don't
know-
and
if
we
approve
this
tonight,
we're
we
don't
know
what
that
appeal
will
cost.
There
is
an
appeal
process,
but
it
makes
it
more
difficult
if
you,
the
public,
have
a
grievance
to
get
it
before
us
in
the
government,
and
we
have
a
simple
Choice
around
that
we
can
be
very
dogmatic
and
say
you
know.
The
government
just
makes
it
hard
for
everyone
and
they
make
things
take
longer
and
all
that
and
we
can
shake
our
fist
at
Sacramento
and
say
they're
taking
away
local
control.
M
But
if
we,
if
we
proceed
with
this
system,
we're
doing
this
to
ourselves
or
we
can
come
up
with
a
different
way
that
that
makes
it
that
makes
government
genuinely
more
accessible
for
for
all
residents
and
and
that's
a
concern.
I
have
around
the
process
aspect
of
that
and
that,
finally,
that
that
brings
me
to
the
policy
concern
I'm,
really
happy
to
hear
a
council
member
Adam
council
member
angler
say
they
they
want
to
hear
they
want
to
see
more
children,
riding
their
bikes
or
walking
to
school.
M
I
think
we
all
do
I
think
it's
CC
lots
of
nodding
heads
here
right.
We
all
want
that
I,
don't
fault
staff
at
all,
for
this
policy
or
or
the
traffic
Commission,
they
did
exactly
what
council
asked
them
to
do.
That's
not
the
problem.
The
problem
is
we,
the
council
didn't
ask
them
the
right
question,
we
didn't
say:
do
we
have
a
policy?
Let's
start
there,
our
policy
should
be.
M
M
M
So
what
I
would
recommend
before
there's
emotion
is
that
we
table
the
formula
in
the
short
term
and
come
back
with.
Let's
do
what
council
member
Englert
just
suggested,
which
is
let's
develop
a
policy
that
starts
with
the
explicit
declaration
that
we
want
children
to
walk
school
and
to
ride
their
bikes
to
school
and
then
work
with
our
partner
agencies
at
the
school
district,
with
the
police
to
educate
the
public
to
do
to
see.
M
I
Mr
power
yeah,
just
really
quick.
Just
for
point
of
clarity
for
the
council,
the
council
has
an
existing
policy
on
the
books,
and
so
a
decision
has
an
existing
policy
today.
So
a
decision
to
not
move
forward
means
that
it
reverts
to
the
existing
policy
as
stands
today
and
I
only
say
that,
because
the
two-year
Horizon
and
some
of
the
more
generous
aspects
that
were
developed
via
the
traffic
commission
or
part
of
that
so
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
complete
Clarity
around
where
that
would
go
absent.
M
I
A
AG
M
Newman,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
what
Mr
Powers
said
about
about
the
policy
and
and
further
that
there
are
stated
walkability
goals
in,
for
example,
the
general
Plan
update.
My
concern,
though,
is
that
just
looking
at
the
crossing
guard
issue,
which
is
the
issue
before
us
tonight
that
to
say
well
we're
doing
something
somewhere
else,
there's
really
a
someday
answer.
M
We're
saying
you
know
someday
we'll
get
to
this
in
some
other
discussion
about
some
other
proposal
and,
as
has
been
stated
multiple
times
by
multiple
people
here
tonight,
Open
Spaces,
Public,
Safety
and
first-rate.
Schools
are
key
reasons
why
people
come
here
and
continue
to
live
here
and
I.
Think
that
that
walkability
policy
should
be
an
explicit
part
of
this
discussion
that
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say.
B
J
There's
going
to
be
some
echoing
here,
so
forgive
me,
I
mainly
just
want
to
say
to
to
All
of
You
Who
Came
any
opportunity
I
have
as
far
as
marketing
or
partnering
to
incentivize
or
get
kids
back
to
riding
bikes
or
skateboarding,
or
walking
I
I'm
on
board.
For
that,
so
I
am
happy
to
help
there,
especially
on
the
marketing
side.
Using
social
I
would
love
to
to
get
us
back
to
how
it
was
when
we
were
kids.
The
question
I
have:
when
is
this?
V
So
as
I'll
answer
that
as
as
currently
written
in
the
resolution,
the
counts
that
we
do
this
spring
would
constitute
Year
One.
So
we
we
have
a
second,
so
we
would
count
again
next
spring
and
based
on
that
results,
we'd
make
a
recommendation
as
to
what
crossing
guards
are
eliminated.
That's
why
it's
currently
written.
V
I
B
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
just
reiterate
that
public
safety
of
our
children
is
Paramount.
How
we
do
it
is
what's
in
debate
and
discussion
right
now
budget's,
not
an
issue
issue.
What
is
an
issue
is
what
type
of
objective
standards
we
want
to
put
in
place.
Traffic
commission
has
done
a
great
deal
of
work
in
this
area,
as
well
as
our
City's
staff
to
come
up
with
this
formula.
B
My
question
to
City
staff
is
that
on
social
media
emails,
public
comment
here
tonight,
they're
saying
that
we're
you
were
saying
in
the
presentation
we're
keeping
current
locations,
but
yet
people
are
saying
here
tonight
in
public
comment
as
well
as
emails
that
we're
closing
down
what
what
why
the
disconnect
are,
we
closing
down
crossing
guards.
Are
we
please
answer
I'm,
not
clear
as
to
why
there's
a
disconnect
so.
V
People,
folks
that
we've
received
comments
on
are
are
projecting
that,
based
on
the
current
standards,
certain
crosswalks
would
be
based
on
previous
year.
Counts
would
be
likely
candidates
for
closing
now
as
proposed
tonight.
We
want
to
start
this
year
and
we
understand
that
we're
on
the
tail
end
of
a
pandemic,
and
this
is
really
the
first
year.
Kids
are
back
to
school,
the
entire
school
year
and
again
it's
the
council's
discretion.
We
were
going
to
take
our
counts
for
spring
as
Year
One.
V
B
Essentially,
it's
sort
of
like
the
federal
government,
saying
well,
you've
cut
your
budget,
but
it
turns
out
that
no,
it
was
actually
not
what
you
requested,
but
you're
getting
less,
but
it's
still
an
increase
from
this
year,
I'm
with
you,
so
that
said
not
having
Public
Safety
with
school
crossing
guards
again
Public
Safety
is
Paramount.
Question
is
how
do
we
implement
this?
Who
has
the
management
of
it?
Who
makes
the
decisions?
B
Taking
over
the
management
and
the
costs
associated
with
this
school
crossing
guard
program,
you
aren't
happy
with
what
we're
doing
then
School
Board
you
do
it
and
you'll
come
up
with
the
answer
that
works
best
for
you,
because
this
is
a
school
board
question.
It's
a
school
board
concern.
If
anyone
is
closest
to
the
issue.
B
It's
the
school
board,
members,
the
teachers
and
the
parents,
not
the
city
council
sitting
before
you
and
I
know
that
we
have
a
school
board.
That's
got
a
209
million
dollar
budget.
It
could
be
more
than
that,
but
that's
the
number
I
was
able
to
pull
out
from
the
Budget
on
online.
Before
we
came
to
council
meeting
here,
they've
got
the
money
they
can
do
it.
They
can
actually
implement
this
and,
as
I
presented,
that
argument
that
Public
Safety
is
not
the
exclusive
for
city
council,
because
otherwise
we
would
be
paying
for
field
trips.
B
Athletic
teams
going
off
campus.
We
would
be
paying
for
those
buses,
the
coaches,
the
the
trainers,
the
teachers,
the
lunches
that
go
along
with
that,
so
that
Public
Safety
rests
with
us.
Therefore,
city
has
to
pay,
for
it
does
not
hold
water
it's
unfounded,
and
this
should
be
again
in
the
hands
of
those
who
best
can
make
the
decision
for
the
student
and
that
being
the
school
board.
Cvusd
not
city,
council
and
I
will
argue
that
CVUSD
doesn't
want
to
part
with
347
thousand
dollars
to
implement
a
program
such
as
this.
B
Under
their
domain
they
have
the
budget.
They've
got
209
million
dollars
a
lot
of
money,
so
I
think
we,
as
Council
have
now
demonstrated
how
we
sound
like
a
school
board.
We've
gone
back
and
forth
with
questions.
We
are
not
a
school
board,
we
don't
know
the
needs.
I
think
we
should
throw
this
back
over
to
cbusd
if
Council
or
city
staff.
Again,
if
you
would
begin
a
dialogue,
I
would
appreciate
it.
Councilmember
Newman
was
correct
in
pointing
out
that
I
should
have
brought
it
up
at
this
time
to
make
that
request
of
you.
B
B
Q
I
I
don't
want
to
catch
catch,
the
kids
in
between
the
school
board
and
the
city.
They
become
enmeshed
and
ponds
with
some
big
political
debate.
I
I
mean
I
think
this
is
ours.
Like
I
said
earlier,
this
is
ours,
we've
been
doing
it
since
64.
there
are
streets,
there
are
roads,
so
I
wouldn't
be
in
that
school
of
thought,
and
as
far
as
the
timing,
Mr
Newman,
you
mentioned
having
time
to
do
some
things.
Q
What
I
would
do
Cliff
is
bump
that
timing
up
instead
of
I,
would
have
the
clock
start
in
August
at
the
beginning
of
the
school
year.
Okay,
so
I
know
we're
doing
some
counts
before
then,
but
the
real
clock
starts
in
August.
We
do
our
first
count
in
the
first
year,
so
that
takes
us
to
what
2024
right
and
then
the
second
year
we're
at.
We
do
the
second
count
the
probationary
account,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
that
takes
us
out
to
2025..
Q
So
that's
two
years,
two
years,
David
that
we
can
work
as
a
community
to
get
these
that's
what
we
got
to
do.
We
got
to
get
the
kids
counts
up
and
we
have
school
board
members
here.
I
think
they'll
understand
that
and
I'm
hoping
you
cooperate
with
this
to
do
just
that,
because
I
think
the
message
you're
hearing
is,
we
don't
want
to
close
crosswalks
and
we
want
more,
but
we've
got
to
get
the
count
up,
but
I
think
we
can
do
that.
Q
Q
Q
You
know
you're
talking
objective
versus
subjective
and
the
council.
They
can't
help
it
we're
political
becomes
subjective
and
so
we're
we're
proving
crosswalks
that
don't
come
anywhere
near
the
criteria
and
then
that's
just
not
fair,
sometimes
because
then
like
as
I
mentioned,
other
people
come
forward
and
say:
well.
Why
can't
I
get
a
crosswalk,
so
I
think
the
appeal
process
is
okay,
I
know,
Mr
Powers
is
going
to
make
it
as
cheap,
as
is
that
the
right
word
as
inexpensive
as
possible,
because
you
got
to
tie
the
fee
to
the
process.
I
mean
this.
Q
Q
Is
that
possible,
sir
I
listened
to
a
friendly,
Amendment
they're
presuming
anyway,
the
motion
would
be
that
we
approve
the
staff
recommendation
with
the
with
the
policy
that's
been
put
forward
tonight
that
we
do
the
the
timing,
starting
in
August,
to
go
out
two
years
instead
of
would
normally
be
just
one
and
that
well
I,
don't
know
I,
guess
how
you
put
in
the
motion
that
we
make.
The
appeals
process
is
as
affordable
as
process
possible
and
commensurate
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
Just.
I
Q
Q
I
Q
M
M
M
Since,
when
I
am
proposing,
is
number
one
going
back
to
staff
and
have
and
requesting
that
they
come
back
with
a
package
of
additional
components.
That
starts
with
an
explicit
policy
of
supporting
walking
to
school
and
also
includes
additionally
stated
efforts
to
work
with
our
school
board
and
with
our
police
and
the
removal
of
the
decision
by
staff,
with
with
appeal
that
that
there
is
a
recommendation,
instead,
a
recommendation
from
staff,
but
a
decision
making
power
that
that
resides
here.
That
is,
in
my
judgment,
not
wholly
compatible
with
council
member
Adams.
Q
M
F
C
Hate
to
do
this,
but
I
just
need
Clarity
on
the
resolution
is
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
resolution
is
modified
to
your
suggestion.
Mr
Adams
as
I
understand
your
motion
and
I
think
we
might
have
wording
it's
either
going
to
be
effective.
August
of
2024,
2023
or
2024.
I
just
need
Clarity
from
staff
that
they're
comfortable
with
adding
that
initial
language.
To
the
last
paragraph
of
the
resolution
and.
Q
V
I
am
clear:
just
there
are
two
parts
to
the
recommendation
here:
I
want
to
make
sure
this
year
that
we
go
ahead
and
and
do
the
counts,
which
is
one
of
the
items
recommendations
tonight
we
like
to
do
those
so
we
basically
have
a
baseline.
Where
are
we
today
and
we
all
know
where
we
want
to
get
to
yeah.
F
F
Let's
put
that
as
one
of
our
whereases
that,
whereas
our
our
the
goal
of
the
city
council
is
to
encourage
students
to
walk
and
and
Bike
to
School,
that
is,
that
is
a
a
goal
that
I
think
is
a
lot
of
a
goal.
I
think
we
all
spoke
about
it
and
that's
to
put
that
and
and
put
it
in
black
and
white
in
our
resolution.
I
believe
is
something
that
is
appropriate.
No.
Q
That's
fine,
that's
fine
with
me,
but
in
fact,
I'd
go
on
to
say
to
be
accomplished
by
a
partnership
with
the
school
district,
the
city
council,
the
public
works
department,
the
our
Sheriff's
Department,
the
PTA.
Oh,
you
know
all
the
relevant
institutions
that
could
accomplish
what
what
you
just
said
is.
Q
C
We
have
the
change
to
the
resolution
that
we
just
went
over
about
the
time
that
the
counts
would
start
or
the
for
this
particular
purpose,
but
also
I.
Think
what
I
heard
from
councilmember
Engler
is
that
you're
adding
a
recital
to
the
resolution
about
the
purpose
for
this
thing,
so
the
resolution
would
have
a
additional
recital
to
it.
That's
fine!
As
long
as
you're
not
trying
to
change
the.
A
C
M
Mr
Newman,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
I
appreciate
very
much
the
the
spirit
of
cordiality
and
the
amendment
that
that
councilmember
Engler
added
in
stating
the
policy
goal
and
in
stating
the
willingness
to
work
for
on
this.
Unfortunately,
I
still
cannot
support
the
current
motion
because
it
it
still
makes
our
government
less
accessible
rather
than
more
because
of
the
appeal
part.
M
So
I
wanted
to
be
clear
that
I'm
I'm
very
good
with
these
editions
I've
as
I've
said
before,
I'm
fine
with
the
formula
I
think
the
formula
is
a
very
good
formula:
it
did
what
it
was
asked
of
it,
but,
but
without
that,
with
that
appeal
part
that
makes
us
less
accessible
and
for
that
reason,
I
cannot
support
this.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor.
B
B
B
AH
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor
and
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
Ida
furuzand
senior
engineer
in
the
city's
Capital
project.
Division
of
Public
Works
I
am
here
tonight
to
make
a
presentation
on
The,
Meadows,
Reservoir,
emergency
repairs,
and
here
with
me,
I
have
another
hey,
Daddy
city
engineer.
To
answer
any
questions
as
needed.
AH
Meadows
is
one
of
the
city's
three
partially
buried
concrete
reservoirs,
with
a
capacity
of
4.5
million
gallons.
It
was
built
in
1972
and
had
a
nearly
50-year
history
of
Performing.
Well,
however,
during
routine
inspections
on
November
15
2021,
a
significant
leak
estimated
at
40
gallon
per
minute,
was
observed.
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These
structural
damages
lit
consultant
to
perform
more
investigations,
which
revealed
that
two
of
The
Columns
had
a
settlement
of
about
three
inches
at
the
location
of
the
damages
to
find
the
cause
of
the
settlement
HDR
needed
to
perform
subgrade
investigation
at
the
bottom
of
the
tank.
However,
due
to
possibility
of
a
structural
collapse
entering
the
reservoir
for
a
foreign
extended
length
of
time,
was
found
to
be
unsafe,
requiring
partial
removal
of
the
Tank's
roof
to
to
relieve
the
loading
on
the
support
beams
and
also
to
provide
a
safe
access
to
the
interior
of
the
tank.
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Due
to
the
need
to
restore
Reservoir
service
in
advance
of
the
Wildfire
season,
city
council
declared
an
emergency
on
February
8
2022
and
authorized
the
partial
remover
of
the
roof
and
subsequently
performing
their
required
structural
repairs.
Under
a
time
and
material
contract
with
a
space
construction,
a
highly
experienced
water
reservoir
construction
contractor.
AH
And
here
is
a
photo
showing
one
of
the
first
roof
panels
being
lifted
by
the
cranes.
It
took
several
iterations
to
balance
crane
size
and
crane
placement
for
work
to
proceed
safely
per
hour
engineering
analysis.
A
total
of
six
panels
had
to
be
removed
for
a
safe
entry.
The
weight
of
each
panel
was
estimated
at
approximately
66
000
pounds,
with
dimensions
of
65
feet
by
10
feet.
AH
AH
The
temporary
access
was
restored
to
pre-existing
condition
at
the
completion
of
the
project.
The
alignment
of
the
temporary
access
road
was
selected
to
avoid
any
disturbance
to
the
three
existing
oak
trees
on
the
south
side
of
the
reservoir
side,
and
here
is
the
photo
after
the
roof
panels
were
removed.
At
this
point,
the
contractor
was
authorized
to
enter
the
reservoir
and
perform
subgrade
investigation.
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The
lack
of
differential
settlement
at
the
other
two
other
columns
and
the
absence
of
cracks
elsewhere
in
the
reservoir
floor
indicated
that
this
problem
was
isolated
to
these
two
columns
to
improve
the
structural
stability
of
the
tank
going
forward,
a
new
concrete
bearing
ball
under
the
overstressed
roof
beams
was
constructed.
This
is
a
folder
of
the
completed
support
wall,
which
included
several
window
openings
in
the
wall
to
allow
for
proper
circulation
of
water
inside
the
tank.
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Upon
completion
of
the
wall,
the
roof
panels
were
put
back
and
a
new
water
resistant
lining
was
applied
to
the
entire
floor
and
wall
joints
for
further
protection
of
the
concrete
floor
and
the
joints.
The
tank
was
filled
with
water
and
placed
online
on
December
16.
After
passing,
the
various
record
water
quality
testing
protocols
after
the
reservoir
was
placed
online.
Additional
improvements
regarding
the
drainage
around
the
exterior
of
the
tank
were
performed
to
prevent
ponding
of
rain
water
and
potential
infiltration
into
the
tank.
AH
The
final
site,
restoration,
was
completed
on
January
20th,
and
here
is
a
breakdown
of
the
project.
Cost
change
order.
Number
four,
as
and
described
and
included
in
the
staff
report,
is
needed
to
cover
the
costs
associated
with
additional
drainage
improvements
around
the
exterior
of
the
tank
and
final
site
restoration.
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AH
AH
F
U
Yeah
this
was
this
along
with
many
of
our
other
reservoirs,
some
of
which
we've
completed.
Those
structural
upgrades
on
was
on
our
list
to
be
done
a
little
bit
further
down
the
list,
but
obviously
was
elevated
because
of
the
situation
that
occurred.
Most
of
those
rehab
and
Renovations
of
the
reservoirs
are
in
the
one
to
two
million
dollar
range.
This
was
a
little
bit
more.
That
was
partially
explained
because
there
was
more
structural
repair
that
needed
to
be
done
as
opposed
to
just
recoding
and
some
of
the
other
elements
that
are
required.
U
So
it's
hard
to
kind
of
compare
totally
on
Apple's
apples,
but
you
know
if
the
normal
ones,
2
million.
This
was
about
two
and
a
half
so
but
it,
but
it
also
we
were
able
to
during
the
project
address
most
of
the
areas
we
needed
to
improve
anyway.
So
we
won't
need
to
go
back
to
that
reservoir
for
for
quite
some
time
right.
F
M
AH
M
U
M
Q
Q
Not
even
so
you
got
to
be
kidding
and
look
what
we
had
to
do
to
fix
it,
but
I
mean
the
Egyptians
built
the
pyramids
we
fixed,
The,
Meadows,
Reservoir,
amazing
and
great.
We
got
an
award
for
our
sidewalk
out
front.
You
know
where
we
put
wide
in
the
sidewalk
and
put
in
benches
made.
We
got
the
American
public
works
Association
project
of
the
year,
and
now
we
get
the
American
public
works,
Association
emergency
project
of
the
Year,
pretty
good.
There.
Q
B
That's
a
quick
lesson:
Hydraulics
very
good,
just
a
thought
and
question.
Usually
change
orders
cost
a
lot
of
money,
whether
you're
an
industry
or
whatever
did
these
cost
over
and
above
what
normally
would
have
been
done
with
the
change
order.
Tell
me
a
little
bit
about
the
cost
associated
with
these
change.
Orders.
U
Pull
the
change
order
board
for
you
tonight
is
a
relatively
small
in
value,
so
we
prior
to
that
the
rest
of
the
job
was
on
an
alternative
Contracting
basis.
It
was
time
and
materials
basis
because
the
extent
of
the
issue
was
unknown
at
the
beginning
of
the
project,
so
that
that's
what
the
emergent
declaration
allowed
us
to
do
so
I
can't
really
relate
it
to
what
it
might
be,
but
yeah
normally
you're
correct.
U
There's
some
premium,
you
pay
for
something
that
you
didn't
put
in
the
original
drawings
and
that
you're
trying
to
add
later.
However,
there's
an
alternative
thinking.
There,
too,
is
sometimes
it's
cheaper
to
do
that
with
the
contractors
out
there
already
working
as
opposed
to
hiring
another
contractor
with
a
separate
contract
and
getting
them
all
mobilized
to
come
out
and
do
the
work
also.
So
it's
all
relative
I
guess
well.
B
O
D
B
J
B
B
AG
B
F
No,
it's
it's
I
was
very
touched
at
Alexander.
Did
this
for
us
it's
a
a
nice,
a
nice
compliment
to
our
our
staff
and
the
way
they
take
care
of
the
city
and
take
care
of
the
citizens,
including
us
up
here
on
the
diocese
and
just
going
to
say
hello
to
my
lovely
wife,
27
years.
We
passed
that
a
long
time
ago
and
Happy
Valentine's.
M
Thank
you
mayor
and
I
too,
am
grateful
to
staff
for
for
this
touch
and
for
many
touches
we
really
are.
We
really
do
have
a
first-rate
staff
here,
we're
very
lucky
to
have
that
and
I'm
very
lucky
personally
to
have
my
beautiful
bride
Sally.
The
luckiest
day
of
my
life
was
when
I
met
her.
We
are
coming
except
for
every
day
since
then,
and
we
are
coming
up
on
our
20th
anniversary
this
summer.
Thank.
B
I
We
will
have
three
Department
reports:
follow-up
on
inclusionary
housing
that
was
from
the
consultant
that
was
here
last
fall.
Providing
additional
data,
as
requested
by
the
council,
we'll
also
have
two
enas
exclusive
negotiating
agreements,
one
for
our
Lawrence
Drive,
homeless,
navigation,
Center
and
one
for
the
Hillcrest
School
project,
and
that
will
be
the
28th
two
weeks
from
tonight.