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From YouTube: Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - January 24, 2023
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Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - 1/24/23
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B
Here,
council,
do
we
have
any
requests
for
continuance
of
any
items
on
the
agenda?
B
None.
Okay,
let's
move
forward!
We
are
very,
very
honored
to
have
a
special
presentation
this
evening,
I'd
like
to
introduce
the
deputy
Library
director
Darren
Jeffrey.
If
Darren
would
please
step
up
to
the
podium
he's
going
to
tell
us
about
our
library's
one
city,
one
book
selection
for
this
year?
It's
all
yours.
D
Sir,
thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
McNamee,
council
members
and
staff
I'm
happy
to
be
with
you
tonight
to
introduce
the
2023
Thousand
Oaks
reads:
one
city:
one
book
selection,
author,
Shelby
van
pelt's,
novel
remarkably
bright
creatures,
remarkably
bright
creatures,
highlights
of
widow's
unlikely
friendship
with
the
giant
Pacific
octopus.
That
reluctantly
resides
at
a
local
aquarium
and
the
truth.
She
uncovers
about
her
son's
disappearance.
D
A
special
one
city,
one
book
kickoff
event
is
scheduled
from
11
to
1
pm
on
Saturday
February
25th
at
the
grant
R
bremelt
Library.
That
will
include
a
visit
from
the
Aquarium
of
the
Pacific's
aquarium
on
wheels
in
the
following
weeks.
Book
discussion,
groups,
special
events
and
other
programs
inspired
by
the
book
will
continue
and
will
culminate
with
the
afternoon
without
the
author,
Shelby
Van
Pelt
event
on
Sunday
April
16
2023
in
the
Catholic
theater
copies
of
remarkably
bright
creatures,
are
now
available
at
both
libraries
in
print
audio
ebook
and
downloadable,
audio
formats
and
tickets.
D
For
the
author
event
will
be
available
for
free
at
both
libraries
beginning
on
February
25th.
The
Thousand
Oaks
Library
provides
one
city.
One
book
is
a
city-wide
annual
literary
event,
encouraging
the
community
to
read
and
discuss
the
same
book.
One
city
one
book
is
generously
supported
by
the
friends
of
the
Thousand
Oaks
Library,
whom
we
would
like
to
sincerely
thank
for
supporting
this
Flagship
program.
D
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Jeffrey
I'd
like
to
say
that
you
can
always
win
me
over
with
a
book.
Also.
We
have
a
phenomenal
Library
System
here
in
Thousand,
Oaks
off
of
Jans
Road,
the
other
one
in
Newbury,
Park
off
of
Michael,
I,
believe
and
Librarians
are
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
because
they
are
the
ones
that
change
lives
and
if
we
can
get
children
reading
by
five
years
of
age,
it'll
change
their
future
and
I
really
really
support
the
one
city
one
book
program.
Thank
you.
So
much.
B
You
next
up,
we
have
public
comments,
we
have
Madam
clerk.
Would
you
please
announce
public
comments?
This.
C
Is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments?
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole.
Speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
Three
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
B
I'd
like
to
remind
everybody
that
again,
you
have
three
minutes
as
a
courtesy
I'm
going
to
let
you
know
when
there's
15
seconds
to
go,
I
will
say
15
seconds.
So
that
way
you
can
start
winding
up
your
thoughts.
I
will
introduce
the
first
speaker
in
this
case.
It's
going
to
be
on
Zoom.
So
will
the
second
one
and
then
we'll
proceed
it
forward
with
that
I'd
like
to
introduce
and
Maria
Ventura
Maria
you've
got
three
minutes.
Please
begin.
E
Thank
you,
honorable
mayor
and
city
council.
My
name
is
Maria
Ventura
I'm,
the
senior
public
affairs
manager
for
SoCalGas.
We
are
reaching
out
to
informal
customers
and
natural
gas
prices
are
going
to
be
even
higher
than
usual.
This
January
due
to
several
unprecedented
factors.
Beyond
control
customers,
we
see
a
winter
natural
gas
bill
double
or
higher
compared
to
one
year
ago,
the
higher
bills
are
a
result
of
historically
High
natural
gas
prices
in
the
Western
United
States
SoCalGas
doesn't
set
the
price
for
natural
gas.
Instead,
natural
gas
prices
are
determined
by
national
Regional
markets.
E
Socal
Gas
buys
natural
gas
in
those
markets
on
behalf
of
residential,
small
business
customers
and
the
cost
of
buying
that
gas
is
built
to
those
customers
with
no
markup
meaning
SoCalGas
is
not
profit
for
the
gas
commodity
price
going
up
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
more
on
context
to
that.
So
the
fees
that
are
affiliated
with
the
natural
gas
bill
happen
to
be
associated
with
the
constant
transport
supporting
that
natural
gas
commodity
through
our
pipeline
system.
E
E
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
I'm
really
cured
to
do
is
to
Pro
is
to
alert
people
that
their
bills
may
be
higher
higher
and
what
can
they
do
to
possibly
lower
that
cost?
They
can
lower
their
thermostat
three
to
five
degrees,
install
proper
Caulking
and
weather
stripping,
and
you
can
save
up
to
10
to
15
of
your
energy
costs,
with
appropriate
measures
like
that
wash
clothes
and
cold
water,
water
and
also
reducing
your
water
temperature.
E
Your
water,
your
heater
to
120
degrees,
also
can
save
up
to
22
percent
of
energy
costs,
and
it's
also
a
good
idea
to
do
as
people
also
go
on
vacation.
What
have
you
something
that
I
do
in
my
home
and
also
not
using
non-essential
natural
gas
appliances
and
what
I
mean
by
that
pool
heaters
fire
replace
the
spa
things
of
that
nature,
and
we
also
offer
several
ways
to
help
income
qualified
customers
through
our
bill
assistance,
forgiveness
program,
Home,
Improvement
assistance
and
the
level
pay
program.
E
In
addition,
SoCalGas
recently
announced
a
one
minute
contribution
to
the
gas
assistance
fund.
This
is
a
program
that
helps
income.
Qualified
customers
pay
their
natural
gas
bill
to
learn
more,
we
encourage
residents,
customers
to
visit,
sellcountgas.com,
backslash
assistance
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
F
Council
and
all
of
our
staff
and
viewers
here
tonight,
I
am
before
you
to
tell
you
that
that
I
am
a
regular
participant
and
one
city,
one
book
I'm,
a
resident
of
Thousand,
Oaks
and
I'm,
one
who
won
all
the
surveys
says
that
our
Thousand
Oaks
Library
system
is
one
of
our
best
city
services.
F
Reading
together
as
a
community,
is
very
unique
experience
and
our
wonderful
Public
Library
is
able
to
put
together
programs
and
many
exciting
things
like
Mr
Jeffrey
was
talking
about
tonight,
to
bring
us
together
as
a
community.
So
I
would
urge
everyone
to
read
this
book
and
participate
in
the
programs
and
come
together
in
this
unique
being
experienced
with
one
city
one
book.
Thank
you.
So
much
Council.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
Miss
Missouri
next
up
we
have
at
the
podium
would
be
Eric
goneer.
If
I'm
saying
your
name
correctly
is
Eric
here.
Actually.
G
That's
right:
I,
I'm,
Bob,
Ayers
I
live
in
Thousand
Oaks
for
the
last
two
years,
my
wife
and
I,
and
our
neighbors
have
been
let
down
by
the
city
I'm,
not
talking
about
the
police.
They
have
been
great
I'm
talking
about
the
city
officials
who
have
failed
to
enforce
city
codes
and
laws
that
would
keep
our
streets
safer
and
restore
peace
of
mind
to
those
who
of
us
who
follow
the
law.
Several
months
ago,
I
talked
via
Zoom
to
you
about
the
drug
house
across
the
street.
G
From
me,
I
explained
how
criminals
come
and
go
all
night
long.
Every
day,
I
say
criminals,
because
almost
everyone
who
steps
in
that
house
ends
up
getting
arrested
most
for
drugs,
including
Fentanyl
and
heroin,
and
other
charges
such
as
possessing
illegal
ammunition,
identity
theft,
mail
fraud,
carrying
illegal
weapons
and
on
October
17th.
Last
year,
25
L.A
Metro
cops
with
machine
guns
and
armored
vehicles
arrested
a
suspected
murderer
at
this
house.
The
whole
neighborhood
was
on
lockdown
for
hours.
G
A
huge
amount
of
taxpayer
money
is
used
at
this
house:
police,
ambulances,
fire
trucks,
the
water
department,
Animal
Control
city
code
enforcement
and
Social
Services.
Even
had
to
remove
a
child
for
abuse,
when
people
go
to
jail,
they're
almost
always
released,
but
when
they
don't
show
up
in
courts,
warrants
are
issued
and
everything
is
in
hold
until
they
catch
the
people
again,
it
never
ends
this
past
Saturday
after
the
owners
were
taken
to
jail
again
for
drugs,
along
with
eight
outstanding
warrants.
G
A
woman
came
to
the
house
screaming
with
a
hammer
slamming
it
into
the
door
looking
for
them
and
proceeded
to
beat
the
door
and
at
which
time
another
woman
staying
in
the
drug
house
ran
out
screaming
someone
called
9-1-1
and
eight
police
cars,
an
ambulance
and
a
fire
truck
responded
to
the
scene.
I,
don't
think
these
two
women
even
live
in
Thousand
Oaks
criminal
Behavior
attracts
criminals
from
everywhere
the
city
always
says
they
can't
do
anything,
but
the
city
could
have
removed
this
couple
last
summer
when
they
turned
the
water
off
for
lack
of
payment.
G
The
house
was
without
water
for
over
two
months,
while
multiple
people
lived
there,
that
is
a
code
violation
and
the
city
could
have
and
should
have
condemned
the
house.
The
second
time
the
water
was
turned
off,
police
Commander
Paris
became
aware
of
it
and
got
the
city
to
enforce
that
law.
There's
also
a
state
law,
California
law,
it's
health
and
safety,
one
one,
three,
six,
six
HS
that
says
anyone
supporting
a
house
that
has
illegal
drugs
being
sold
or
given
away
is
subject
to
eviction,
whether
they
own
the
house
or
not.
G
Even
the
mortgage
company
could
be
alerted
since
the
kind
of
illegal
activity
in
a
home
is
subject
for
foreclosure,
whether
you're
behind
payments
or
not
I
believe,
if
any
of
you
lived
where
I
do
this
wouldn't
be
going
on
you're,
not
doing
your
job.
Protecting
the
community,
my
wife
and
I
have
been
robbed
of
our
quality
of
life,
general
welfare
and
domestic
tranquility.
G
We've
watched
people
OD
and
smoke
crack
in
front
of
small
children
at
this
house,
while
me
and
my
neighbors
have
endured
the
pain
and
suffering
and
fear
this
drug
house
creates
our
only
recourse
is
to
try
and
Sue
the
city.
So
we
are
talking
with
an
attorney
and
if
there's
any
other
attorneys
that
would
like
to
join.
C
H
So
much
to
me
so
as
gentleman
referenced,
we're
well
aware
of
the
issues
associated
with
this
house.
We've
actually
talked
with
many
of
the
council
members
about
those
over
time.
Chief
Paris
has
talked
on
numerous
occasions
with
this
individual
and
our
law
enforcement,
while
not
divulging
any
investigative
components,
is
actively
engaged
and
involved,
along
with
Public
Works
code
enforcement
and
all
of
our
entities
we're
working
collaboratively
to
do
the
best.
We
can
to
address
that.
B
I
B
B
C
J
Yes,
thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
back
to
me
and
members
of
the
council.
The
project
before
you
tonight
is
to
allow
a
zone
change
from
PL
which
stands
for
public
quasi-public
institutional
lands
and
Facilities
to
our
pd-12u,
which
stands
for
residential
plan
development
for
the
property.
That's
located
at
3020,
Crescent
Way.
J
This
is
an
aerial
photography
of
the
property.
It's
actually
from
earlier
this
year,
when
the
previous
property
owner
occupied
the
site,
so
you'll
notice
quite
a
few
buildings
on
it,
which
I'll
explain
in
a
bit
the
front
of
the
property
faces
Crescent
way
and
the
rear
up
butts
and
an
alley
that
runs
parallel
to
Crescent
Way.
J
The
subject
property
was
originally
developed
in
1958
with
a
696
square
foot
single-family
home,
and
it's
on
a
lot
that
is
5600
square
feet.
For
many
years.
Mana
Conejo
Valley
food
bank
operated
from
within
this
existing
residence
as
an
accessory
use
and
as
mana's
needs
for
services,
grew
and
changes
were
made
to
the
building
and
the
site.
The
use
of
the
property
was
no
longer
deemed
residential.
So
in
1988
city
council
approved
a
zone
change
for
the
property
to
PL,
which
allows
for
institutional
and
miscellaneous
uses
in
2022.
J
The
new
property
owner
filed
an
application
for
his
own
change
back
in
June
of
2022,
requesting
to
change
the
zoning
classification
of
the
property
to
rpd12u.
They
were
also
requesting
to
construct
a
small
addition
and
remodel
the
property
with
the
intent
of
converting
the
existing
building
back
into
a
single-family
home.
J
J
The
current
application
includes
the
same
zone,
change
request
to
rpd12u,
as
was
originally
applied
for,
but
no
changes
to
the
property
are
included
with
this
application
on
November
3rd
2022,
the
notice
of
application
was
mailed
to
adjacent
property
owners
for
the
required
45-day
notice
and
a
large
sign
was
placed
on
site
in
accordance
with
the
code
on
January
9th.
The
project
was
reviewed
by
the
Planning
Commission.
At
a
noticed
public
hearing,
the
commission
received
public
testimony
from
the
owner,
slash
applicant
and
no
other
public
speakers
or
written
comments
were
received.
J
J
I
J
Have
a
general
plan
land
use,
designation
of
medium
density,
residential
which
is
intended
for
residential
uses.
The
properties
immediately
to
the
north
have
a
general
plan.
Land
use
designation
of
commercial
in
red,
so
the
proposed
zone
change
is
compatible
with
the
property's
general
plan.
Land
use
designation
because
the
RPD
Dash
12u
Zone
will
align
with
the
existing
land
use
designation
and
is
also
a
continuation
of
the
existing
land
use
patterns.
J
And
lastly,
we
evaluate
the
project
for
conformance
with
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
in
this
case,
because
the
proposed
zone
change
will
align
with
the
general
plan,
land
use
designation
and
it
does
not
include
any
changes
or
improvements
to
the
site.
It
can
be
seen
with
certainty
that
the
proposed
zone
change
will
not
have
a
significant
effect
on
the
environment.
Therefore,
staff
has
determined
that
the
proposed
project
is
exempt
from
sequa
pursuant
to
section
15-0
six
one
B3
of
The
Secret
guidelines.
B
K
Just
a
real
quick
question:
it
you
we're
returning
it
to
the
ex
what
was
in
past
existing
Zoning
for
this
area
right
so
really,
there's
there's
no
change
to
the
neighborhood
other
than
Mana,
which
was
a
non-existing
or
a
non-performing
existing
correct.
I
B
Do
we
have
any
public
speakers
on
this
topic?
No
public
speakers
so
we'd
like
to
ask
if
there's
a
motion.
Oh
actually,
we
need
to
close.
L
Thank
you
mayor
well,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
congratulate
Manor
for
moving
into
a
brand
new
facility
with
a
lot
of
room
which
will
enable
them
to
even
better
accomplish
their
mission,
our
local
food
bank,
and
secondly,
it
makes
perfect
sense
to
me
to
allow
this
property
to
be
rezoned.
So
it
can
rejoin
the
neighborhood
with
a
single
family
home
on
it
and
certainly
compatible
with
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
So
I
would
move
8A.
B
B
E
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
We're
going
to
8B
and
I'm
going
to
take
it
over
to
councilmember
Newman
to
who
have
to
recuse
himself
councilman.
Thank.
I
You
mayor
I,
voted
on
this
case
as
a
member
of
the
Planning
Commission,
and
to
avoid
even
the
appearance
of
a
conflict
of
interest.
I
would
like
to
recuse
myself
for
this
case.
Thank.
C
M
Okay!
Sorry
about
that,
the
project
before
tonight
is
a
request
to
allow
columbarium
use
in
residential
zones.
A
B
B
M
Some
technical
difficulties-
sorry
about
that,
so
Steph
staff's
recommendation
is
to
find
that
this
Thousand
Oaks
Municipal
Code
amendment
is
exempt
from
the
provisions
of
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
pursuant
to
California
government
code,
section
15061
B3
and
to
read
ordinance
and
title
only
further
reading
be
waived
and
if
no
objection
introduce
ordinance
to
adopt
amendments
to
the
Thousand
Oaks,
Municipal,
Code,
Title,
IX,
chapter
4,
Article
2
to
add
the
word
columbarium
and
to
article
21
or
the
permit
permitted
use
Matrix
for
residential
zones
to
allow
columbarium
as
an
ancillary
used
to
a
permitted
religious
facility
subject
to
conditions
and
approval
of
a
special
use
permit.
M
In
September
1964,
the
community
voted
to
incorporate
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
from
an
unincorporated
County
of
Ventura
area.
In
October,
1964
city
council
adopted
the
Ventura
County
ordinance
code
as
a
temporary
interim
zoning
ordinance
and
in
April
2011
city
council
adopted
an
ordinance
amending
sections
of
the
municipal
code,
including
Title
IX,
Planning
and
Zoning.
Regarding
the
findings
for
approval
of
a
special
use,
permit
cemeteries,
mausoleums
and
columbaria
were
included
in
the
list
of
uses
allowed
under
the
Planning
and
Zoning
amendments
in
2011.
M
Currently,
columbarium
use
is
only
allowed
in
the
light
manufacturing
zone
or
the
M2
Zone
as
a
permitted
institutional
use,
with
the
approval
of
a
sup
by
the
Planning
Commission.
There
are
currently
no
permitted
columbaria
in
the
city
at
this
time
and
neither
the
original
zoning
ordinance
adopted
from
the
County
of
Ventura
nor
the
past
Municipal
Code
amendments
allowed
columbaria
in
residential
zones
on
March
5th
2020
Holy
Trinity
Lutheran
Church
applied
for
2020-70180-
MCA
to
allow
columbaria
in
the
residential
zones
permitted
use
Matrix
of
the
municipal
code.
M
M
M
M
M
Staff
proposes
one
new
definition
to
be
added
to
the
tomc
section
9-4.202
through
this
MCA
request.
Additionally,
staff
has
drafted
development
standards,
including
design,
size
and
location
of
columbaria.
Operations
of
individual
caliberia
will
be
evaluated
through
separate
SCP
applications
submitted
by
religious
facilities.
M
The
city's
current
regulations
for
places
of
worship
are
contained
in
the
residential
Zone's
permitted
use.
Matrix
of
the
municipal
code
under
institutional
and
Civic
uses,
if
approved,
the
columbarium
use,
will
be
added
as
a
separate
field
in
the
residential
use,
Matrix
under
institutional
and
Civic
uses,
and
can
be
applied
for
with
a
separate
SCP
as
ancillary
to
a
place
of
worship.
M
If
this
MCA
is
approved
tonight
by
city
council,
it
will
require
the
applicant
to
file
sup
for
columbarium.
As
an
answer
used
to
their
permitted
religious
facility,
Holy
Trinity,
Lutheran,
Church
and
staff
will
then
process
the
sup
present
a
full
report.
Findings
and
draft
conditions
of
approval
to
the
Planning
Commission.
M
And
read
ordinance
and
title
only
further
reading
be
waived
and
if
no
objection
introduced
up
ordinance
to
adopt
amendments
to
the
tomc
Title,
IX,
chapter
4,
Article
2,
to
add
the
definition
columbarium
and
to
article
21
to
allow
columbarium
as
an
ancillary
used
to
a
permitted
religious
facility
subject
to
conditions
and
approval
of
a
special
use.
Permit
and
staff
does
have
one
housekeeping
item
development
standard
number,
five
listed
in
part
three
of
the
MCA
ordinance
or
attachment
number
seven
of
the
items
packet
can
be
removed.
M
Staff
was
using
the
existing
municipal
code
standards
during
processing
since
the
last
MCA
item,
which
was
the
self-storage
item,
had
not
yet
been
codified.
So
that
standard
is
no
longer
relevant
in
this
request,
and
this
concludes
my
presentation
staff
as
well
as
applicant
Pastor,
Eric
Gainer
from
Holy
Trinity
Lutheran
Church
is
available
for
questions.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you
mayor
back
to
me.
Yes,
thank
you
for
a
nice
presentation
as
well.
Well
done.
I.
Think
the
idea
of
a
columbarium
is
is
a
very
good
idea
to
allow
members
of
the
faith
community
to
remain
at
their
place
of
worship
even
after
death
is,
is
a
lot
of
old
coal.
I
think
my
questions
really
are
are
have
to
do
with
making
sure
that
that
use
remains
compatible
with
the
residential
area.
K
Where
do
we
have
anything
in
our
SUV
guidance
that
has
to
do
with
where
these
would
be
visible
from
the
street?
Would
they
be
have
a
setback?
None
that
would
have
to
come
about?
Are
there
size
requirements
or
size
limitations
for
this
type
of
values?.
K
Okay
and
then
looking
down
the
line,
assuming
that
some
of
the
religious
facilities
may
change
ownership
or
may
change
become
some
other
use.
What
is
do
we
have
a
bond
in
part
of
our
sup?
That
would
help
us
to
re
relocate.
Those
remains.
How
do
we?
How
are
we
going
to
approach
that.
M
That's
a
good
question
staff,
thought
of
that
and
that's
actually
number
four
of
our
development
standards
and
the
proposed
ordinance.
So,
in
the
event,
the
religious
facility
ceases
its
operations
at
its
permitted
location,
The
Remains
within
the
columbarium
structures,
are
required
to
be
transferred
to
another
off-site
facility
and
when
they're
applying
for
their
special
use
permit,
we
are
going
to
ask
them
to
make
sure
they
have
a
letter
that
states
where
those
remains
will
be
transferred
as
a
part
of
their
operations
plan.
B
N
Good
evening,
mayor
McNamee
and
members
of
the
Thousand
Oaks
City
Council,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
for
15
minutes,
but
I
won't
use
the
whole
time.
N
N
Since
then,
our
task
force
has
done
lots
of
visits
to
other
places
in
Los
Angeles,
one
of
our
own
members
recently
passed
away.
Had
her
ashes
taken
to
a
Lutheran
Church
in
Fresno
to
be
buried
there
in
a
columbarium
and
I
share
this,
because
it
shows
how
these
structures
are
becoming
much
more
common
on
Church
campuses
across
Southern
California,
and
it
shows
how
many
other
cities
also
already
have
zoning
amendments
that
allow
these
churches
in
residential
zones
and
they
haven't
had
issues
in
those
areas.
N
N
This
can
then
ease
the
financial
burden
on
a
family
at
a
time
when
they
are
already
feeling
stressed,
This
Plane
a
use
approval,
not
just
for
the
benefit
of
our
church.
You
might
say
it
will
also
come
to
benefit
other
religious
facilities
across
Thousand,
Oaks
and
residential
communities.
That
will
also
allow
them
to
continue
to
pursue
a
project
if
they
would
choose
to
do
so.
N
We're
thankful
for
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks,
the
council
and
the
Planning
Commission
have
been
working
with
us
to
work
on
this
amendment,
to
see
if
it's
possible
and
we're
especially
appreciative
of
Tabitha
who's,
our
contact,
the
city
staff,
member
working
with
us
on
this
process.
It's
been
very
responsive
and
very
helpful
and
guiding
us
through
what
needs
to
be
done.
So
thanks
again
for
listening,
and
we
hope
you
will
consider
our
request.
L
Thank
you,
mayor,
I'm
sure
the
staff
will
come
up
with
the
appropriate
measures
in
a
special
use
permit
to
make
the
columnarium
properly.
What's
the
right
word
fitting
how
about
that
anyway,
I
I
do
think
it
would
be
highly
preferable
to
visit
your
passed
away
loved
one
at
a
church
instead
of
a
light
manufacturing
Zone,
which
is
what
is
allowed
currently
so
with
that
I
will
move
that
we
pass
8B.
B
K
Just
a
quick
comment
like
I
mentioned
before
this
is
a
nice
idea,
I
think
for
for
families
to
be
able
to
to
be
with
their
loved
one
after
they
pass
in
their
house
of
worship.
It's
a
nice,
it's
a
nice
way
for
that
continuing
love
to
show
itself
amongst
a
family
and
my
wholeheartedly
approve
or
support
the
motion.
B
So
we've
now
going
to
close
the
hearing,
Council
discussion
and
Madam
clerk
councilmember.
C
B
B
B
E
B
Thank
you
sorry,
I
stepped
on
you.
There
we'll
wait
until
council
member
David
Newman
returns.
B
Item
nine
study
sessions,
we
have
no
study
sessions
to
report.
Let's
move
into
Department
reports,
we're
going
to
go
to
Mr,
Stephen
Kearns
planning,
division
manager
on
10A,
temporary
outdoor
dining
areas,
extension
Mr,
Kearns-
and
how
are
we
doing
with
our
PowerPoint?
We
good.
O
O
The
request
involves
opening
up
a
section,
Title
IX,
to
consider
amending
the
municipal
code,
standards
pertaining
to
residential
outdoor
customer
dining
areas
or
commercial
for
that
matter.
Before
I
dive
into
the
presentation,
I'd
like
to
start
by
taking
a
few
moments
to
explain
the
municipal
code
amendment
process,
particularly
for
those
business
owners
interested
in
this
item
tonight.
O
O
As
a
matter
of
background
in
1994,
the
city
council
adopted
specific
development
standards
related
to
outdoor
customer
dining
areas.
This
involves
waivers
to
parking
requirements
for
outdoor
seating,
that
is
up
to
five
tables
of
four
chairs.
Each
did
not
require
additional
Park
and
demand,
whereas
before
the
outdoor
dining
standards
were
adopted,
the
outdoor
dining
area
required
one
parking
space
for
each
45
square,
feet
of
dining
area.
O
Staff
was
directed
by
the
city
manager
and
City
attorney
to
establish
an
online
no
fee
permitting
process
for
temporary
outdoor
dining
areas,
staff
to
create
created
a
application
process
and
set
a
standard
set
of
conditions
that
apply
to
all
these
facilities.
A
key
condition
of
these
permits
is
that
it
requires
removal
of
the
temporary
facilities
30
days
after
the
order
is
lifted,
which
is
scheduled
for
February
28th.
This
would
then
require
the
outdoor
dining
facilities
to
be
removed
by
March
30th
of
this
year.
O
And
currently,
restaurant
owners
do
have
a
path
to
permit
permanent
outdoor
dining.
That's
been
in
place
since
the
city
was
incorporated
in
1994
again
they
were
chained
to
change
the
standards
to
encourage
facilities
and
reduce
the
park
and
demand
requirements
by
establishing
a
five
table
fort
share
allowance
with
no
parking
demand.
O
O
Now
these
next
few
slides
depict
existing
outdoor
dining
areas,
both
as
a
permanent
facility
and
as
a
temporary
shown
here
as
a
permanent
facility.
That's
integrated
into
the
existing
landscape
elements.
You
see,
there's
a
hedge
concealing
the
perimeter
of
the
outdoor
dining
area,
there's
a
permanent
Berry
barrier
around
it
as
well
as,
of
course,
the
lighting
and
the
seating.
O
O
O
This
work,
this
location
in
court
encroached
into
the
whole
parking
area.
They
have
uncovered
and
covered
dining
areas.
They
use
plastic
k-relse
to
the
perimeter
to
keep
vehicles
from
entering
the
area
again,
another
outdoor
dining
area,
with
landscape
Planters
as
the
barricade
and
then
the
canvas
cover
for
the
dining
area
itself
and
one
more
showing
the
canvas
cover
with
the
enclosure
of
plastic
and
concrete
K
rails
keeping
vehicles
for
entering
the
site.
I
My
my
one
request
in
this
area
is
in
the
design
or
Aesthetics
phase
of
things.
No
one
begrudges
any
restaurant
owner
who
who
was
able
to
stay
open
because
they
had
temporary
facilities
and
and
used
a
lot
of
Ingenuity,
and
in
many
cases
it
was
the
difference
between
staying
in
business
or
not.
No
one
begrudges
the
temporary
setups,
but
I
I
want
to
understand
in
the
design.
O
Tonight
is
just
initiation
to
give
staff
authority
to
begin
the
process
of
evaluating
our
current
existing
standards,
which
only
pertain
to
permanent
outdoor
dining
areas.
There's
no
allowance
for
a
temporary
temporary
is
only
during
the
coveted
pandemic
emergency
order,
so
that
was
a
temporary
allowance
to
keep.
As
you
mentioned,
these
businesses
in
business
during
this
period.
I
So
this
is
really
more
a
request
or
some
input
rather
than
a
question,
but
but
my
my
input
would
be
that
that
the
temporary
facilities
we
looked
at
really
do
look
temporary,
there's,
tarpaulin,
there's
plastic
k-rails,
there's
a
sort
of
ad
hoc
quality
to
them
and
I
would
request
that
the
design
standards
we
adopt
really
do
you.
You
said
it
yourself:
the
design
must
complement
Building
architecture
and
and
I
think
that
should
be
a
prominent
part
of.
K
I
Think
it
would
be
good
to
two
things.
One
one
is
to
to
have
that
complementary
design
element
and
number
two
is.
It
may
be
necessary
to
have
different
design
standards
for
different
sizes
of
outdoor
dining,
that
a
one
size
fits
all
design
approach,
probably
is
not
appropriate,
given
the
variety
of
different
locations
and
sizes
of
restaurants.
We
have
here.
B
K
Mr
Engler,
thank
you,
mayor
back
to
me
in
terms
of
the
types
of
allowance
we
have
made
due
to
covid
and
I,
think
it
was
an
appropriate
use
of
our
of
our
authority
to
do
so.
You
mentioned
that
we
have
temporary
and
we
also
have
permanent
installations.
Now.
Would
our
stay
of
any
changes
apply
both
the
temporary
and
to
the
permanent
uses.
O
O
The
facilities
that
we're
looking
at
have
them
removed
are
the
temporary
installations
that
were
they
got
the
temporary
permit.
They
acknowledged
that
the
conditions
apply
and
that
30
days
after
the
covet
order
is
lifted,
they
would
have
to
remove
those
facilities
as
a
matter
of
just
the
clarification
as
our
Code
Enforcement
Officers.
If
it
gets
that
point
which
we
don't
know.
K
O
Will
be
letters
it'll
be
a
slow
roll?
It
wouldn't
be
you.
Here's!
Your
code
enforcement
letter
take
this
down
tomorrow
and
we're
going
to
court
next
week
kind
of
thing
it's
going
to
be
we'll,
send
a
letter
out
saying
you've
got
to
prepare
them
at
a
temporary
permit.
It
states
that
you
have
30
days
to
remove
it.
This
is
a
friendly
reminder
of
that
condition
and
it's
time
to
take
it
down.
P
You
mayor,
I,
guess:
I
have
a
couple
things
for
you.
One
has
anybody
spoken
to
the
businesses
who
are
currently
using
the
permit
or
the
temporary
outdoor
dining
to
see
what
their
needs
are
if
they
are,
if
they
need
us
to
extend
or
if
this
puts
them
in
some
type
of
financial
crunch,
by
allowing
the
original
time
to
end
or
what's
their
sentiment.
O
That's
a
very
good
question:
Mr
councilman
Taylor,
our
Economic
Development
Department
division
has
been
communicating
with
the
business
community
and
talking
to
these
restaurant
operators.
We
also
have
also
had
meetings
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
restaurant
operators,
sort
of
a
q
a
session
and
advise
them
of
our
existing
standards.
O
I
think
there
was
a
little
just
confusion
as
to
the
temporary
outdoor
dining
areas
and
our
standards
that
they
apply
to
the
permanent
facilities
that
they
really
understood,
that
there
was
a
process
for
a
permanent
outdoor
facility
available
to
them
right,
so
that
was
sort
of
a
q,
a
in
education
process
and
that
will
continue
through
the
initiation
or
the
MCA
review
if
we
adopt
or
adopt
a
resolution
initiate
in
this
process.
O
But
the
idea
is
to
engage
the
stakeholders
which
are
primarily
the
restaurant
operators
and
management
companies
and
get
their
feedback
on
the
standards.
H
E
H
Webinar
sessions
with
our
economic
development
team
at
the
chamber,
the
chamber
helped
to
promote
to
engage
in
that
dialogue,
which
I
think
was
super
helpful
and
to
make
it
clear
that
it's
not
our
intent
to
remove
these.
You
know
ad
hoc
basis,
and
so
part
of
the
reason
we're
here
tonight
is
an
outgrowth
of
that
discussion.
H
The
answer
to
your
question
is
yes:
they've,
begun
from
most
of
those
businesses
financially
rely
on
those
facilities
now
and
the
process
of
making
them
permanent
in
the
future
is
going
to
be
dictated
by
what
type
of
venue
they're
in.
Are
they
in
a
strip
mall
setting?
Are
they
an
individual
business
setting,
and
so
those
rules
will
kind
of
vary
depending
okay.
P
D
L
You
mayor
yeah,
this
could
take
a
while.
You
know
to
go
through
the
whole
newspaper
code,
Amendment
and
all
the
different
requirements.
Is
there
any
time
limit
on
this
this
extension
or
stay
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
O
We
anticipate
the
NCAA
taking
about
six
to
nine
months
to
get
through
the
process,
but
there's
a
lot
of
dynamic
factors
involved
in
that
review
process
the
communication
and
the
engagement
with
the
stakeholders.
It
could
take
some
time
the
discussion
of
the
standards,
the
evaluation
of
other
jurisdictions,
getting
feedback
from
the
pros
and
cons
of
these
facilities.
Just
so
council
is
where
there's
not
been
completely
positive
response
from
the
entire
business
Community
there's
been
an
engagement
from
retailers
in
the
shopping
centers
that
are
being
negatively
affected
by
these
facilities.
That.
A
O
Been
commenting
on
so
through
the
permanent
review
process
we
sent
out
notices
to
all
the
neighboring
Property
Owners,
actually,
every
property
within
500
feet
of
the
property
to
get
feedback
and
solicit
that
input
that
didn't
occur
during
the
temporary.
But
everyone
was
I
think
everyone
acknowledged
it
was
understood
and
during
the
covert
emergency
people
were
more
acceptable
to
these
facilities
and
and
the
allowance
to
keep
businesses
going
was
was
reasonable
for
them.
O
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
Adam
I
have
a
few
questions.
My
challenge
is
that
parking
is
key
for
many
of
the
businesses
that
there's
certain
ratios
that
are
to
be
maintained.
These
outdoor
dining
areas
has
been
a
tremendous
Boon
for
many
of
the
restaurants
because
of
their
ability
to
provide
that
as
interior
as
well
as
exterior.
O
Yeah,
if
the
temporary
outdoor
dining
permits
are
allowed
to
continue
until
this
amendment
is
processed,
then
it'd
be
the
same
as
it
was
during
covet
that
they
would
move
in,
knowing
that
these
temporary
facilities
can
remain
as
they
are.
If
they
creep
into
other
locations.
As
some
of
them
have
and
get
bigger
and
create
other
issues,
then
we
can
address
that
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
as
they're
permitted,
they
can
retain
those
outdoor
dining
areas
on
the
temporary
basis
that
they
are.
K
A
real
fast
one
go
ahead
in
terms
of
some
of
these,
of
the
existing
either
permanent
or
or
temporary
structures.
Are
there
any
that
are
currently
causing
problems
with
disability
access
or
blocking
any
driveways
or
sidewalks,
so
that
they
they
would
have
a
priority
to
be
worked
on
or
how
you
can
approach
those.
O
Well,
that
that's
been
a
concern
or
consideration
even
with
the
temporary
permits.
Temporary
permits
have
a
requirement
that
the
temporary
facilities
maintain
disabled
access
at
all
times
that
they're
they're
maintained
in
a
clean
debris,
free
condition
and
they
do
not
block
Ingress
egress
from
other
facilities.
So
that's
been
something
that's
been
an
action
item
as
part
of
the
permit
from
day
one
and
will
continue
to
be
so
so
they
cannot
create
a
hazard
situation
such
as
blocking
an
ADA
path
of
travel
or
an
Ingress
or
request
to
a
building.
I
You
mayor
Mr
Kearns,
you
mentioned
a
little
earlier
that
some
neighboring
businesses
had
provided
comment.
That
was,
if
not
negative,
it
was
somewhere
less
than
positive
I'm
wondering
in
the
in
the
proposed
permanent
changes.
What
are
their
measures
that
are
contemplated?
That
would
allay
the
fears
of
of
neighboring
businesses
that
are
not
restaurants
to
make
to
make
these
permanent
facilities
more
palatable
to
them.
Yeah.
O
Councilman
Newman,
that's
a
very
good
question.
It's
something
I
should
have
clarified
in
the
beginning.
The
municipal
code
now
has
standards
for
outdoor
dining
areas.
There's
a
permit
process,
there's
a
reduced
filing
fee.
It's
a
it's
a
pretty
simple
process,
but
the
notification
is
key
where
we
send
out
the
advertisement
500
feet
and
come
look
at
the
plans
and
come
at
that
point
before
the
thing's
installed.
But
the
standards
now
require
the
Ada
path
to
travel.
They
access
the
compatibility
of
the
existing
buildings,
the
design
standards,
the
ABC
compliance,
the
police
department,
compliance.
O
All
these
standards
do
apply
to
the
outdoor
dining
now,
but
at
the
onset
of
the
covid-19
order,
I
think
there
was
a
Reliance
on
these
outdoor
facilities
and
there's
more.
Obviously,
the
Optics
are
on
these
areas
that
people
want
to
install
more
permanent
facilities
are
retain
the
outdoor
temporary
facilities
as
long
as
they
can.
B
Q
Thank
you,
mayor
McNamee,
good
evening,
Council
Danielle
Borgia,
president
CEO
of
the
Greater
Conejo
Valley
Chamber
of
Commerce.
We
have
been
highly
engaged
on
this
issue
from
the
chamber
and
the
city
Side,
as
Drew
mentioned.
I
just
want
to
share
a
couple
of
remarks:
we're
in
strong
support
of
expanding
the
temporary
dining
spaces,
while
the
city
has
a
chance
to
evaluate
some
new
amendments
to
the
code,
I
think
we've
seen
the
benefits
of
the
expanded
outdoor
dining
for
our
restaurants,
an
industry
that
was
so
highly
impacted
by
the
pandemic.
Q
That's
still
trying
to
recover
from
the
pandemic
and
they're
reliant
on
these
spaces
right
now.
Many
of
them
and
many
of
them
are
small
operators,
and
so,
when
you
think
about
small
businesses
and
independent
operations,
these
are
the
businesses
that
we're
talking
about.
We
have
over.
We
have
36
of
them
currently
utilizing
these
types
of
permits.
Q
You
know
outdoor
dining,
creates
a
vibrancy.
That's
really
hard
to
replicate
and
I
think
we've
seen
that
it's
a
benefit
on
the
business
side,
but
it's
also
really
a
benefit
for
our
community
allowing
different.
You
know
experiences
that
we
haven't
had
before
whether
it's
expanded
dining
on
a
sidewalk
or
into
different
parking
lot
areas.
These
businesses
have
been
able
to
expand
their
footprint
in
many
cases,
just
to
be
able
to
survive
and
as
they
look
at
kind
of
the
long-term
planning.
Q
This
also
allows
them
an
opportunity
to
think
about
the
investment
on
their
side
if
they
want
to
convert
these
to
permanent
spaces
and
I.
Just
you
know
point
out
that
we
have
some
of
the
best
weather
in
the
U.S,
and
so
let's
take
advantage
of
that
for
our
businesses,
especially
when
we're
looking
into
the
spring
and
summer
season,
which
is
going
to
be
a
high
demand
for
this
type
of
outdoor
dining
and
so
I
would
just
you
know.
Q
Restaurants
really
contribute
to
the
unique
mix
of
our
community
as
far
as
from
a
business
standpoint,
and
this
is
really
a
way
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
support
them
and
keep
kind
of
the
character
that
we're
really
all
looking
for
in
our
community.
So
I
appreciate
your
consideration
on
this
item
and
Arch
chamber
is
in
strong
support.
B
Thank
you,
Miss
Borgia
city
clerk.
Do
we
have
any
other
speakers
or
is
that
it
that's
it?
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
do
the
following.
If
we
could
go
to
closing
remarks
by
our
council
members
Mr
Taylor,
do
you
have
any
comments?
Any
thoughts,
no
discussions,
Mr
Adam.
B
K
Newman
Mr
Engler,
just
a
real
quick,
just
a
closing
comment.
I
I
do
agree
with
Ms
Borgia
that
this
is
one
of
these
fortunate
accidents
that
occurred
because
of
covid.
We
found
that
our
our
liking
of
Alfresco
dining
was
was
enhanced.
There's
certain
things
that
we
are
going
to
benefit
from
after
our
experience
with
Covenant
I
think
having
expanded
outdoor
dining
is
one
of
them.
B
You
are
I
I'd
like
to
comment
that,
yes,
with
all
the
tragedies
that
occurred
during
covid,
one
of
the
pluses
that
came
out
of
it
was
the
ability
to
give
the
consumer
the
option
of
eating
indoors
or
Outdoors
or
whatever
option
they
may
have
and
I
think
the
city
needs
to
be
flexible,
which
they've
articulated
to
find
what
works
best
to
accommodate
all
the
things
such
as
Public,
Safety,
access
parking
and
so
forth.
This
is
going
to
be
a
challenge.
B
Those
businesses
that
still
want
to
maintain
this
option
for
their
restaurant
and
dining
experience
for
their
customers
will
do
so.
Those
that
it
doesn't
work
for
will
obviously
just
move
back
to
the
model
they
had
before
covet
hit.
So
I'm
very
excited
that
we're
looking
at
this
as
possibilities,
it's
been
very
successful
in
other
cities
and
same
for
our
residents
who
enjoy
the
outdoor
dining
experience
at
the
restaurants
we
have
to
offer,
and
with
that
Mr
Engler,
would
you
like
to
make
a
motion.
L
You
mayor
I,
tell
you
I,
am
so
glad
that
as
a
city,
we,
you
know,
allowed
this
temporary
outdoor
dining
because
it
has
saved
restaurants
all
across
the
country,
and
it
looks
like
it
may
have
saved
36
restaurants
here
in
town,
so
very
glad.
We
did
that
and
now
it's
time
to
make
these
outdoor
dining
facilities
permanent
and
we
want
to
make
them
quality
and
good
looking
and
because
they
had
20
to
30
percent
seating
capacity.
L
I
understand
they
can
increase
revenues
by
30
percent,
and
so
we
need
to
support
our
small
businesses
and,
as
you
say,
Danielle
many
of
them
are
restaurants,
so
Now's
the
Time
to
step
up
and
make
that
happen.
I
would
only
say
to
staff.
You
might
want
to
check
with
the
landlords
for
TI
tenant.
Improvements
seems
to
me
they
might
want
to
chip
in
on
this
deal,
considering
it's
their
properties
and
the
other
thing
is
it's
expensive.
L
These
build-outs
it's
going
to
cost
some
money,
so
we
want
to
be
as
sensitive
as
to
that
as
possible
when
it
comes
to
permitting
and
the
kind
of
things
that
we
have
some
control
over
in
adding
expense
to
this
to
these
permanent
facilities
so
and
I
agree
with
your
motion.
Bob
and
I
will
support
it.
B
B
Thank
you,
madam
Clerk.
Let's
move
on
to
item
11
committee
commissions
and
board
reports
I'd
like
to
turn
this
over
to
council
member
Bob.
Engler
talk
a
little
bit
about
your
nominations
for
planning,
commissioner
and
traffic
Commission.
K
Thank
you
mayor.
First
off
I
I
would
like
to
congratulate
everybody
who
applied
for
these
two
positions
of
traffic
and
Planning
Commission
reading
through
and
talking
to
many
of
them.
What
a
spectacular
group
of
folks
who
volunteered
to
come
forward
to
help
the
city
out
and
my
hat
is
off
to
you.
It
is
a
really
warms
the
heart
to
see
so
many
folks
who
want
to
be
part
of
helping
our
community
become
as
good
as
it
is,
and
get
even
better
so
with
that
I.
Thank
you
all
my
my
two
proposals
of
appointment.
K
One
is
well
known
to
us.
Our
planning,
commissioner,
my
Planning
Commission
for
the
last
four
years
has
been
Sharon
McMahon
and
she
has
done
an
extraordinary
job
working
with
staff
working
with
thoughts
that
will
move
the
city
forward,
providing
housing
providing
locations.
She
was
a
crucial
in
part
of
the
discussions
on
our
general
plan.
K
K
You
know
I've
met
him
about
two
years
ago,
and
this
gentleman
as
a
young
man
who
works
for
the
Oak
Park
School
District
and
lives
here
in
town.
This
gentleman
spent
his
formative
years
in
creating
orphanages
in
Africa.
He
and
his
wife
spent
time
helping
those
people
in
other
countries.
Now
he
wants
to
take
that
same
dedication
and
come
to
our
country
or
continue
to
be
in
our
country
to
help
us
with
our
transportation
needs
and
thoughts.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Engler,
any
questions
from
my
other
Council
colleagues
regarding
these
two
nominees.
With
that
I'd
entertain
a
motion.
B
So
I'm
going
to
move
it
over
to
city
clerk.
Please.
P
B
You,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
two
which
are
nominees
by
council
member
David,
Newman
David.
Please
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
nominees.
I
Thank
you,
mayor
and
I
want
to
Echo
my
colleague,
council
member
Anglers,
warm
comments
toward
the
large
pool
of
very,
very
well
qualified
applicants
that
we
had.
There
were
some
difficult
decisions
to
be
made.
This
was
a
quality
field
and,
at
the
outset,
I
want
to
say
to
all
applicants.
I
appreciate
all
of
you
very
much
for
stepping
forward
and
I
am
already
looking
at
other
ways.
We
can
continue
to
work
together.
I
As
for
the
choices
I
made,
as
was
the
case
with
council,
member
Engler
I
chose
one
familiar
face
and
one
relatively
new
face
for
my
planning.
Commissioner,
my
choice
is
Mick.
Ferris
Mick
has
been
a
mentor
to
me
in
many
positions.
He
is
former
a
former
planning,
commissioner.
He
is
just
now
rotating
off
our
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
Commission.
I
I
K
I
I
can't
think
of
anyone
better
qualified
and
it
for
this
post,
so
I'm
happy
to
nominate
him
as
planning,
commissioner,
on
the
traffic
side,
I've
nominated
Ashley
Orozco,
who
is
annoyingly
young
for
someone
of
her
experience,
she's
been
she's
an
18-year
resident
of
The
Conejo
Valley.
Some
of
you
will
know
her
quite
well
because
she's
been
politically
active
for
quite
quite
a
long
time.
I
What
what
really
impressed
me
about
Ashley
is
her
is
two
things.
One
is
she's
a
consensus,
Builder
she's,
very
good
at
getting
people
who
say
I'm
not
talking
to
that
person.
I,
don't
like
that
person
to
get
people
in
a
room
and
to
talk
together
and
to
forge
consensus,
she's
very
good
at
that
she's.
Also
one
of
the
kindest
and
most
empathetic
people,
I
know,
and
also
one
of
the
most
forward-looking
she
consistently
in
policy
discussions.
I
I
But
how
is
it
going
to
play
now
and
how
is
it
how's
it
going
to
play
in
generations
to
come
and
as
a
younger
member
of
our
community
I
think
she's
ideally
suited
to
to
think
about
questions
in
that
kind
of
way,
and-
and
she
also
shares
my
vision
of
enhancing
and
improving
our
city-wide
network
of
bike
paths,
pedestrian
paths
getting
that
all
connected
city-wide
connecting
it
up
with
mass
transit,
so
that
it
is
a
good
alternative
to
getting
some
of
us
out
of
our
cars
so
for
all
those
Reasons
I'm
I'm,
very
pleased
to
to
nominate
mcferris
for
planning
and
Ashley
Orozco
for
traffic
and
transportation.
I
B
B
P
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
going
last
I
have
to
Echo
everyone,
but
you
know
Cal
Jory
got
on
David
David
me
for
taking
our
time.
Picking
that's
what
happens
when
you
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
qualified
to
apply
so
I
appreciate.
Everyone.
I
also
had
to
make
some
difficult
phone
calls
first
for
people
that
I
really
enjoyed
and
were
qualified,
not
an
easy
thing
to
do.
P
For
me
for
traffic
commission
I'm
proposing
Lawrence
imel,
who
was
our
chair
of
traffic
Commission
in
2022,
I
interviewed
him,
he's
an
attorney
actually
proposing
two
attorneys,
but
when
I
interviewed
him,
he
was
very
articulate
well
spoken
clearly
had
the
experience
coming
off
of
his
last
four
years,
I
called
people
who
had
worked
with
him
and
he
actually
came
highly
recommended
on
top
of
my
initial
kind
of.
Why
would
I
say
it
thoughts
of
of
thinking?
P
He
was
really
good,
so
I'm,
you
know
really
appreciative
that
I
have
him
who
is
I,
think
going
to
serve
another
four
years.
Who
will
be
great
for
the
city?
My
nomination
or
proposal
for
Planning
Commission
is
Marcella
Kettle
Hut,
who
you
know
when
I
was
originally
thinking
who
I
wanted
to
nominate.
I
I
wanted
somebody
who
was
incredibly
qualified
in
real
estate.
Ultimately,
new
real
estate
inside
and
out
Marcellus
is
a
real
estate
broker,
she's,
also
an
attorney
a
land
use
attorney,
which
you
know
at
first
glance.
P
That
was
something
that
was
very
important
for
me
to
follow
that
up.
She
has
sat
on
the
caneo
Open
Space
Foundation,
the
caneo
open
space
was
it
trails
and
action
committee.
She
shares
what
we
all
share
up
here,
which
is
our
open
space,
is
something
that
makes
Thousand
Oaks
very
special,
and
she
doesn't
just
think
it.
She
acts
on
it
as
well,
and
so,
when
I
saw
that
combo
I
was
like
oh,
this
is.
This
is
special,
so
I
think
both
of
them
are
going
to
be
very,
very
valuable.
B
B
H
Thanks
mayor
McNamee,
we'll
be
back
with
our
next
meeting
celebrating
Valentine's
Day
together
on
the
14th
of
February.
We
currently
have
several
items
coming
forward,
including
a
lot
of
law
enforcement,
update
from
our
chief
of
police,
Jeremy,
Paris,
a
resolution
approving
standards
and
policies
for
our
crossing
guard
program
that
the
council
asked
to
proceed
with
last
summer
and
a
departmental
report
on
our
Meadows
Reservoir
that,
you
might
recall,
underwent
emergency
repairs
in
the
past
year.
We
also
have
our
committee
commission
board
report
on
the
community.
H
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Powers
I
have
a
request
of
city
clerk.
Could
we
perhaps
avoid
Valentine's
Day
for
future
events,
because
we
have
grief
from
spouses
coming
forth
and
we'd
appreciate
that
very
much
noted.