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Well,
I
want
to
share
with
you
why
jill's
up
here
jill
is
retiring
from
the
greater
canejo
valley
chamber
of
commerce,
and
I
want
to
share
a
little
bit
about
that.
During
her
tenure,
the
chamber
has
been
awarded
five-star
accreditation
by
the
u.s
chamber
of
commerce
and
11
consecutive
president
circle
awards
from
the
california
chamber
of
commerce
get
a
mom.
C
Mayor
mccoy,
thank
you
so
much
thousand
oak
city
council,
it's
such
an
honor
to
be
here.
I've
been
in
front
of
you
many
times
before
I
chose
thousand
oaks
for
my
home
and
to
build
my
business
so
many
years
ago
in
1983.
I
stumbled
here
by
mistake.
Actually
we
got
off
at
the
wrong
exit
and
we
knew
we
were
home.
C
It
has
been
everything
I
could
have
asked
for
and
more,
and
I
am
so
grateful
and
so
proud
to
call
thousand
oaks.
My
home,
I'm
grateful
for
the
relationships
that
we've
built.
The
work
that
we've
done
together
thousand
oaks
is
indeed
our
premier
city
and
we
have
been
so
very
proud
to
be
your
chamber.
I
thank
you
all
so
much
for
everything
you've
done
for
the
business
community.
C
For
me,
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
my
heart
is
going
to
miss
you
and
how
grateful
I
am
to
each
of
you
and
how
much
you
will
always
be
a
part
of
my
heart.
I
actually
have
somebody
to
introduce
to
all
of
you
today
and
I'd
like
to
bring
actually
two
of
my
team
members
down
here
to
join
me.
C
F
Jill
I'm
going
to
have
someone
come
up
in
a
minute
also
to
bring
you
a
commendation,
but
I
did
want
to
say
on
a
personal
note,
when
I
first
became
a
council
member,
the
very
first
scheduled
meeting
I
had
was
with
you
and
you
made
me
feel
so
welcome.
You
have
a
lovely
way
about
you
and
we're
going
to
deeply
miss
you.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
service
to
this
community
and
we
brought
in
the
heavy
hitter.
I
Not
quite
all
the
way
from
sacramento,
but
maybe
from
down
the
street.
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
mccoy
council,
members,
city
manager,
city
attorney
and
staff,
and
it
is
really
bittersweet.
I
I
knew
jill
the
I
met
jill
when
I
first
started
running
all
the
way
back,
then
she
was
there
and
and
giving
a
hand,
and
she
taught
nancy
frawley
who's
right
back
here.
My
campaign
manager,
everything
she
knows
about
working,
hard
and
and
getting
people
elected
jill
is,
as
many
of
you
probably
have
heard,
she
is
tremendously
accomplished
and
you
go
back
to
her
working
at
domino's
and
then
somehow
attaining
a
chain
of
domino's
restaurants
and
she
was
also
teaching
at
pepperdine.
I
But
what
a
tremendous
role
model
for
young
people
to
see,
somebody
so
successful,
come
and
speak,
and-
and
I
know
that
they
really
appreciated
your
involvement
and
after
she
sold
off
those
dominoes,
she
had
a.
She
should
have
had
a
well-earned
retirement,
but
rick
lemo
had
a
different
idea
and
after
a
few
glasses
of
wine
jill
was
convinced
to
join
the
chamber
as
president
and
and
back
in
those
days
there
was
there
was
you
know
there
were
a
couple
of
chambers
actually
right
here
in
in
the
canejo
valley,
and
she
they
basically
changed.
I
The
name
to
the
united
chamber
got
the
whole
community
together
and
she
has
done
really
a
tremendous
job.
As
you
heard
how
many
times
they've
been
platinum,
chambers
and
five
star
chambers
jill
is
very
competitive.
She
wants
to
make
sure
that
she
is
completely
at
the
top
and
they've
been
very
involved
in
the
community
with
things
like
the
border,
borderline
fire
and
and
borderline
and
the
fires
and
teacher
of
the
year.
But
what
we
always
say
here
in
thousand
oaks
is
that
small
businesses
are
really
the
backbone
of
our
community.
I
We
have
a
very
high
quality
of
life
here,
a
lot
of
open
space
and
a
lot
of
other
goodies
that
basically
are
enabled
by
the
success
of
our
small
businesses,
and
that's
why
it's
so
important
to
have
a
chamber
that
really
works
hard
to
educate
people
to
to
to
allow
people
to
network
to
to
to
make
sure
that
businesses
can
be
successful
and-
and
somebody
that
had
the
experience
that
jill
had
with
her
domino's
chain
was
really
the
best
possible
person
that
we
could
ask
for
so
danielle
you.
I
You
really
have
a
hard
act
to
follow,
but
I
know
that
the
whole
council
will
be
behind
you
and
jill
and
by
the
way
jill
was
my
woman
of
the
year
last
year
for
the
44th
assembly
district
jill.
It's
it's
very
bittersweet
to
have
you
go,
but
certainly
it's
incredibly
well
earned,
and
I
wish
you
all
the
best
in
your
retirement.
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H
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residents
for
the
record
under
state
law.
Public
comment
matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
council
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
manager
for
administrative
follow-up.
Six
individuals
have
presented
cards
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
A
A
We
haven't
always
seen
eye
to
eye
at
sometimes,
but
that's
probably
because
I
was
wrong
and
I
did
want
to
say
too
before
I
started
out
this.
This
whole
memorial
was
just
unbelievable.
A
I
know
everybody
up
here
knows
it
and
they've
heard
it
from
every
single
person
that's
been
involved
and
whoever
did
the
publicity
I'm
astounded.
My
sister
in
queens,
said
she
heard
it
on
10
10
wins
new
york
several
times
that
day.
So
congratulations.
A
What
are
we
calling?
The
main,
the
main
street
project
in
front
of
the
civic
arts
plaza,
and
the
first
thing
I'd
like
to
say,
is
that
I'm
greatly
impressed
with
what
has
been
come
up
with
here.
It's
a
highly
creative,
very
complex.
A
Item
to
put
put
to
put
forward-
and
you
know
I'm
sure-
there's
going
to
be
some
obstacles,
but
if
we
can
get
anywhere
near
that,
I
think
we'll
be
in
in
really
good
shape.
A
It
will
change
the
complexion
of
the
city
and
a
couple
of
years
ago
I
suggested
a
what
I
call
the
south
side
solution,
which
was
to
work
on
only
the
one
side
of
the
street
and
what
I
see
for
phase
two
of
this
is
to
take
main
street
and
shoot
it
out
to
the
cul-de-sac
and
get
rid
of
shantytown.
Do
an
eminent
domain
thing
and
wipe
those
70-year-old
shacks
out
and
see
if
we
can
relocate
leslie's
an
auto
zone
and
put
in
some
nice
restaurants.
A
But
I
do
advise
if,
if
this
is
the
only
way,
this
is
going
to
happen
is
to
do
the
kind
of
deal
that
we
did
with
the
lakes.
I
would
say:
that's
a
huge
mistake.
I
think
any
businessman
never
would
have
made
would
never
would
have
made
a
deal
like
that
and
I
have
it
on
good
authority
that
pf,
changs
and
california
pizza
kitchen
are
two
of
the
busiest
restaurants
in
this
town
and
that's
at
the
cost
of
other
restaurants.
A
In
this
town,
we've
lost
a
number
of
well-established
restaurants
from
outback
to
fridays,
to
applebee's
to
a
number
of
different
restaurants,
I'm
not
sure
there's
a
direct
correlation,
but
I
think
a
city
like
this
could
use
some
more
restaurants
like
like
those
my
final
thing:
oh
18
seconds,
okay,
the
final
thing
is,
I'm
going
to
bring
up
again
to
the
council
people
my
idea
of
the
copper
curtain,
I
think
now
is
the
perfect
time.
A
I've
been
told
it's
not
time,
yet
I'm
told
it's
not
time
yet
20
years
and
it's
time,
it'll
be
a
beacon
towards
this
new
project.
It'll
be
welcoming
to
follow
the
memorial.
This
is
a
welcoming
people
here
and
it
even
has
a
chance
of
supporting
the
oak
trees,
which
are
right
now
in
great
danger.
So.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
mark
you're,
followed
by
gary
hartung
good
evening,
sir
good
evening.
D
Thank
you
for
your
time
reason.
I'm
here
tonight
my
name
is
mark
avetisian,
I'm
a
40-year
resident
of
ventura
county.
I
attended
brookside
elementary
madea
creek
middle
school
in
oak
park.
High
school,
I'm
here
to
represent
the
dozens
of
businesses
in
the
community
that
are
involved
in
the
tobacco
vape
cigar
and
convenience
store
business
reason.
I'm
meeting
here
today.
D
I
know
nothing's
been
on
your
agenda
recently,
but
we've
been
reaching
out
to
each
one
of
you
over
time
now
trying
to
schedule
a
meeting
to
meet
with
you
to
discuss
some
of
the
issues
surrounding
our
industry
and
how
we
feel
you
know.
Further
regulation
and
intelligent
regulation
may
help
address
some
of
the
concerns
and
issues.
D
D
Recently,
in
the
news
there's
been
conflation
between
the
illicit
black
market,
thc
vapes
that
are
causing
and
have
been
identified
as
the
causes
of
these
illnesses
and
and
sicknesses
and
deaths.
And
while
we
understand
there's
also
a
concern
about
youth
access
to
vape
products
in
our
community,
we've
had
three
sting
operations
at
our
location,
all
three
of
which
we
have
passed
and
received
letters
from
governing
bodies.
Congratulating
us
on
helping
prevent
youth
access
to
these
products.
D
I
also
believe
that
these
illnesses
and
deaths,
especially
after
inaccurate
and
sometimes
deceptive
headlines
by
local
and
mainstream
media,
could
have
been
drastically
reduced
if,
in
fact,
more
discussions
within
our
community
were
welcomed
instead,
many
found
this
is
an
opportunity
to
disparage
our
industry
and
responsible
business
owners
ultimately
leading
to
what
is
now
the
fear
of
these
harm
reduction
devices
being
removed
to
the
thousands
of
people
who
have
used
them
to
quit
traditionally
harmful
tobacco
products.
D
Just
in
the
last
few
months
keep
in
mind
107
000
people
have
died
from
traditional
tobacco
products.
Not
one
person
has
died
from
nicotine-based
e-cig
e-liquid
products.
I
want
to
make
that
clear.
I've
surprised
I've
supplied
you
with
the
following
documentation.
D
In
fact,
I
think
that
totals
about
70
percent
for
the
studies
that
I've
provided
you
in
this,
so
banning
products
at
a
local
level
is
not
going
to
do
anything
to
stop
the
illnesses
and
deaths
or
the
youth
use.
So
I
invite
you
to
look
through
the
documents
please
reach
out
to
me.
My
information
is
on
there
to
schedule
a
meeting
with
local
business
holders
and
discuss
regulations.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
E
We're
going
to
be
low
income
or
affordable,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
definition
of
low
income
or
affordable
is,
but,
as
I
drive
around
moore
park,
road
and
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
a
few
other
main
roads
here,
I've
seen
a
number
of
empty
lots.
Some
of
them
are
quite
large.
E
We
don't
need
that
stuff
here,
there's
there's
more
than
enough
of
them.
I
really
don't
know
why
we
need
any
more
restaurants
either
because,
as
I
walk
by
many
of
them,
they're
not
even
half
full,
so
I
think
these
needs
to
make
a
much
better
convincing
commitment
to
provide
affordable
housing.
Thank
you.
C
Mr
mayor
council
members,
thank
you
for
having
me.
My
name
is
anthony
angelini,
I'm
a
resident
of
westlake
village,
and
I
am
a
board
member
of
the
arts
council
of
the
canejo
valley,
where
I
serve
as
the
events
and
hospitality
director.
The
arts
council
is
a
network
of
over
40
local
arts
non-profits
in
the
city.
It's
sort
of
like
a
who's
who
of
all
the
arts
community
in
teo.
If
you
want
to
go
to
the
symphony
boom
new
west
is
a
member.
C
If
you
want
to
go
to
a
musical
five
star
theatricals
as
a
member,
it's
like
basically
any
art
related
thing
you
want
to
do
in
town.
You
got
to
go
through
us
first,
so
why
am
I
telling
you
all
this?
Well
because
last
night,
a
lot
of
local
arts
people
attended
your
city's
cultural
planning
kind
of
workshop
discussion
here
at
the
civic
arts
plaza
a
lot
of
them
were
empowered
to
voice
their
opinions
on
the
direction
of
the
general
plan.
C
I
actually
think
a
lot
of
the
consensus
was
stating
that
it
was
good
and
that
it
was
going
in
the
right
way
and
then
it
was
great
that
we
could
get
a
voice
among
city
council
on
this
general
plan.
We
really
liked
it,
and
specifically
the
arts
council
is
very
supportive
of
the
general
plan
and
the
work
and
the
cultural
aspects
that
you've
agreed
to
add
to
it.
The
arts,
council
and
we're
also
working
with
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
association,
the
downtown
business
district.
C
We
will
make
the
arts
part
of
every
conversation
that
we
have
and
we
would
hope
that
you
would
include
the
cultural
impact
and
the
cultural
aspects
of
every
discussion
in
the
general
plan
in
every
decision
that
you
make
I'm
right
now,
I'm
just
speaking
as
a
as
a
board
member
of
the
arts
council,
and
we
don't
have
any
specific
thing
that
we're
asking
for.
We
just
want
to
be
included
in
the
conversation.
C
We
just
want
you
to
think
about
that
kind
of
stuff,
as
you
move
forward
with
the
general
plan.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
us
in
the
past
and
we
hope
that
you'll
keep
listening
to
us
in
the
future.
We
are
very
powerful.
We
could,
I
don't
know,
paint
unflattering
portraits
of
all
of
you
if
we
wanted
to
oh,
no
but
yeah.
Just
please
keep
listening
to
us
moving
forward.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
council,
members,
adam
haverstock,
I'm
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
for
the
chamber
of
commerce
with
a
couple
items
for
you.
First
and
foremost
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
we're
doing
the
thousand
oaks
state
of
the
city
on
tuesday
december
3rd.
It's
going
to
be
at
california,
lutheran
university
in
the
gilbert
sports
center
from
11
30
to
1
30,
and
we
have
a
really
great
keynote
to
that
day.
G
G
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
the
chambers
board
of
directors
held
their
retreat.
Last
week
we
did
accomplish
some
business
there,
we
elected
tom
cohen
from
the
law
firm
of
cohen,
begin
and
deck
as
our
2020
chair
of
the
board.
So,
if
you
don't
know
tom,
he
is
a
land
use
attorney,
so
you'll
be
seeing
more
of
him
in
the
coming
year.
G
We,
the
board,
ratified
the
decision
of
our
executive
committee
to
select
daniel
borgia
as
our
next
president,
ceo
and
the
board
also
ratified
the
chambers
legislative
agenda,
which
is
the
policy
document
that
outlines
our
position
on
a
variety
of
policy
issues
I'll
be
emailing
a
copy
of
that
agenda
to
the
city
clerk.
So
you
guys
can
all
receive
a
copy.
What
I
will
tell
you
for
those
that
are
that
have
been
on
the
board
for
multiple
years.
We
didn't
take
any
new
positions
on
any
issues
or
change
our
position
on
anything.
G
Our
positions
are
the
same.
It's
just
we
like
to
reauthorize
that
document
every
year
and
distribute
it
for
your
reference
this
coming
week.
Actually,
on
thursday,
the
canal
valley,
tourism,
improvement
district
is
going
to
hold
its
board
meeting
where
it's
going
to
approve
its
officers,
its
budget
and
its
marketing
plan
for
2020.
G
and
a
quick
little
spoiler
for
our
marketing
plan
for
2020.
We
are
going
to
be
doing
a
new
program.
We
are
bringing
back
kaneho
valley
restaurant
week,
so
that
is
going
to
be
the
week
of
january
27th
through
31st
of
2020.
It's
going
to
be
run
by
the
tourism
district.
We
are
inviting
restaurants
now
to
sign
up
to
participate.
G
All
you
have
to
do
is
offer
a
discount
off
of
your
menu
or
some
other,
maybe
a
special
promotion,
something
you
don't
normally
cook
or
some
sort
of
special
pairing
that
we
can
promote
on
our
website
at
caneo.com
and
we're
going
to
do
a
marketing
campaign
both
to
locals
and
out
of
area
people
to
to,
hopefully
have
them
come
frequent.
Our
local
restaurants-
and
if
you
didn't
know
january,
is
a
really
bad
month
for
restaurants.
G
Everybody
eats
and
drinks
themselves
to
death
during
december
during
the
holidays.
They
start
their
diet
on
january,
1st,
and
so
restaurants
do
take
a
hit,
and
so
we
think
it's
great
timing
to
do
something
to
support
our
local
restaurant
community
and
so
more
to
come
on
that
and
unless
there
are
any
questions
that
does
conclude
my
report
this
evening.
Thank.
C
Good
evening,
thank
you,
this
is
my
name,
is
billy
parish,
I'm
actually
a
recent
transplant
of
thousand
oaks,
and
this
is
my
first
time
here
so
very
nice
to
meet
all
of
you
welcome.
I
am
the
current
vice
president
of
the
arts
council,
the
canelo
valley,
and
I
won't
repeat
anything
that
anthony
said.
C
What
I'd
really
like
to
reiterate
is
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
all
of
your
work
on
the
new
general
plan
and
thank
you
for
involving
us
and
the
rest
of
the
arts
in
those
conversations
as
the
voice
of
the
arts
for
the
last
50
years.
We
can't
reiterate
how
much
that
does
mean
to
us,
and
we
are
very
excited
to
work
with
you
and
with
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
association
moving
forward
to
hopefully
make
this
new
downtown
thousand
oaks
area
a
wonderful
place
for
both
businesses
and
the
arts,
hand
in
hand.
J
Good
evening
I'm
bruce
boyer
candidate
for
sheriff,
so
we've
had
a
couple.
Things
happen
since
I
last
spoke
to
you.
I
would
have
liked
to
have
attended
the
dedication
ceremony.
Unfortunately,
before
things
started,
chief
hagel,
I'm
not
pointing
the
finger
at
you,
but
who
can.
J
Am
trying
to
let
me
mccoy
mayor,
keep
doing
it,
so
I'm
not
saying
that
chief
hegel
had
me
arrested,
but
somebody
did
and
somebody's
fingerprints
on
it
now
question
I
get
asked
is
how
can
they
arrest
you
for
interrupting
a
public
event
that
hasn't
started?
Yet
that's
a
very
good
question.
My
attorney
laughed
so
hard.
J
He
dropped
his
cell
phone,
but
then
again,
if
you've
got
people
that
just
want
to
suppress
the
speech
of
people,
I
guess
you
can
do
whatever
you
want
until
you're
held
accountable
for
it,
so
we
are
going
to
have
an
accounting
and
there
are
going
to
be
fingerprints
on
it
so
see.
If
you
can
get
your
head
around
this
as
a
fully
filed
candidate
for
sheriff,
I
come
to
a
public
event.
J
I
can
speak
to
people
from
anywhere
I
want,
and
my
political
opponent
has
his
deputies
abduct
me
that
happened
in
america,
not
in
venezuela
or
nicaragua,
but
in
america
on
a
oh,
we're
going
to
arrest
you
for
interfering
with
the
public
event
I'll,
never
mind
that
it
hasn't
started.
Yet
if
it
hasn't
started,
it
hasn't
started.
So
we're
going
to
have
fun
with
that
now,
since
the
flag
is
still
there,
we
are
still
in
america
and
we
are
governed
by
our
constitution
so
to
inform
people
what
happened
at
the
borderline,
promoting
the
website
borderlinetruth.com.
J
J
Now
I
may
not
be
an
expert
on
a
lot
of
things,
but
the
vehicle
code
and
bicycles
yeah,
that's
one.
I
know
you
have
no
legal
authority
to
seize
bicycles,
hey
they're,
100
bucks
a
day
to
rent
them.
If
you
want
to
seize
12
of
them,
you
can
explain
to
these
people.
Why
you're
going
to
end
up
paying
me
1200
a
day
to
have
my
bicycles,
locked
up
in
some
storage
yard,
and
then
we
can
deal
with
the
other
aspects
of
it,
which
says
you
violate
people's
rights
when
you
seize
their
property
without
legal
authority.
J
Now
don't
feel
bad
because
there's
more
sign
bikes
coming
out,
because
people
ask
me
bruce,
how
is
it
that
there
were
10
cops
inside
the
border
line
when
shots
were
fired
and
none
of
them
did
anything?
And
I
go,
I
don't
know
they
won't
tell
us,
and
you
won't
tell
people
how
is
it
that
after
helis
is
shot
and
bleeding
that
none
of
the
cops
went
in
to
save
him
or
any
of
the
other
people
inside
for
the
better
part
of
half
an
hour?
J
Well,
they're,
probably
watching
the
video
in
the
parking
lot,
because
brian
the
owner
has
a
fully
interactive
video
and
he
can
see
they
can
see.
What's
going
on,
they
left
the
people
to
die.
Why
did
they
do
that?
Why
don't
we
get
some
answers
because
the
answers
are
going
to
be
very
ugly.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
I
C
Am
here
about
the
borderline
as
well,
and
I
would
like
to
give
this
to
the
clerk.
This
is
a
statement.
C
Thank
you-
and
I
want
to
put
this
in
this-
is
the
only
paperwork
I
could
find
on
how
the
funds
were
distributed
for
the
money
that
was
collected
for
the
victims.
I
personally
know
someone
and
she
was
curious
as
to
why
her
daughter
was
not
involved
in
it,
and
this
was
all
that
I
got
and
there
isn't
any
other
lists
on
where
the
money
went
to.
F
Oh,
that,
okay,
if
you
wait
we'll
have
one
of
the
staff
address
it.
You
want
to
talk
about
it
if,
if
you'll
just
stick
around
okay,
thank
you
thank
you
and
you
can
give
that
piece
of
paper.
If
you'd
like
to
our
clerk
miss
powers,
you
have
any
follow-up.
G
All
right,
yes,
mr
mayor,
just
the
question
regarding
funds
distributed
from
the
the
borderline
fund,
the
as
the
council
and
community,
I
think,
are
pretty
well
aware
those
funds
were
managed
and
distributed
under
quite
a
bit
of
scrutiny
through
the
ventura
county
community
foundation.
Any
questions
about
it
can
be
directed
to
the
community
foundation.
H
The
motion
carries
5-0
and
I
have
an
ordinance
title.
It's
an
ordinance
amending
thousand
oaks
municipal
code,
section
1.10-13
of
title
1,
chapter
10
of
the
thousand
oaks
municipal
code
regarding
future
employment,
restrictions
for
former
officers
or
employees
for
one
year
following
termination
of
officer
or
employee.
F
K
Thank
you
before
I
get
too
far
into
the
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
minute
and
introduce
staff
here
sitting
next
to
me,
mark
town,
as
you
know,
well,
the
director
of
community
development
to
mark's
left
is
steve.
Stewart
steve
served
as
interim
building
official
here
with
the
city
for
a
number
of
months
throughout
this
year.
K
K
K
K
K
K
Terms
of
topography,
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
is
surrounded
by
a
ring
of
open
space
and
those
steep
hills
and
knolls
create
unique
conditions
for
building,
and
it
affects
everything
from
mudslides
or
rock
slides
after
say,
a
fire
event,
and
it
also
provides
a
habitat
for
fire
to
move
quickly
uphill
and
because
of
that,
their
change
is
proposed
locally.
To
address
those
conditions.
K
From
a
geologic
standpoint,
this
map
shown
on
this
screen
is
from
the
thousand
oak
safety
element
in
the
general
plan.
It
shows
soil
conditions
throughout
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
because
of
our
unique
soil
conditions
and
earthquake
faults
that
run
throughout
the
city
there
are
proposed.
There
are
proposed
changes
in
the
amendment
to
address
those
conditions.
K
K
K
F
Kelvin,
I
have
one
question
with
the
need
for
housing
in
the
state.
Why
would
the
state
increase
the
time
for
building
permit
from
six
months
to
one
year.
F
Okay,
council
member
bill
de
la
pena,
thank
you.
B
Mayor
mccoy
good
evening,
I
have
several
questions
actually,
given
what
we
went
through
one
year
ago,
starting
with
northern
california,
paradise
hills
the
hill
fire,
the
woolsey
fire.
L
Members
of
the
council,
the
building
industry
per
se,
has
not
requested
any
additional
requirements
to
be
imposed
on
construction.
L
The
california
building
code
actually
has
provisions
within
the
code
for
what
we
call
very
high
fire
hazard
areas
that
impose
additional
requirements
on
buildings
such
as
the
class,
a
roof
fire
protected
walls
tempered
glass
in
windows
and
events
that
are
fire
resistive
for
embers
and
sparks.
So
there's
a
there's.
A
lot
of
elements
that
are
within
the
code
staff
took
a
look
at
that
during
our
preparation
of
the
of
the
the
code.
L
That's
before
you
this
evening,
and
we
felt
after
analyzing
that
that,
from
a
cost-effective
standpoint
and
taking
a
first
step,
the
incorporation
of
class,
a
roof
from
class
b
roof
would
be
a
good
first
step.
But
of
course
we
could
incorporate
additional
elements
if
the
council
so
choose
to.
But
that
was
staff
recommendation.
B
B
B
K
That's
something
that
staff
can
look
into,
but
we
have
to
coordinate
with
our
community
development
partners
to
talk
about
that
and
have
dialogue.
And
it's
something
that
director
town,
I
believe,
could
take
as
direction
and
we
can
move
forward
and
take
a
look
at
that
and
report
back
to
city
council.
B
Because
woolsey
is
not
going
to
be
the
last
wildfire
that
we're
going
to
see.
So
if
this
is
not
making
an
impression
on
the
building
industry,
perhaps
or
the
commission,
then
I
don't
know
what
will.
Obviously
we
need
to
start
thinking
differently
about
protecting
our
investment,
meaning
homeowners,
investments
and
using
materials
that
that
are
going
to
withstand
or
not
withstand
but
be
more
resistant.
So
if
we
could
do
that,
I
I
would
really
appreciate
that,
as.
B
B
F
A
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
mr
town,
I
suppose,
in
terms
of
we
could
always
have
very
restrictive
codes.
I
mean
we
can
make
type
1
or
type
2
fire
resistive
type
requirements
in
any
interface
area,
but
is
that
going
to
add
a
very
high
price
to
a
home
and
would
what
have
you
looked
in
that
type
of
result.
L
I
think,
if,
if
part
of
my
recommendation
back
to
the
director
would
be
to
give
you
information
in
regards
to
the
current
code
requirements
that
we
impose
on
very
high
fire
hazard
areas,
I
do
know
the
county
fire
is
looking
at
the
mapping
now
based
on
these
the
state's
revised
mapping
and
there
will
be
parts
of
the
city
which
may
be
included.
It
will
have
to
have
the
higher
fire
resistive
requirements
imposed
on
it
by
state
statute
yeah.
I
think.
A
The
cost
that
I
agree
with
council
council
member
building
pena
the
cost
is,
is
always
an
issue,
but
also
so
was
replacement
cost
the
are
there.
Are
there
any
other,
more
cost
effective
ways
other
than
building
types
that
would
improve?
Survivability
and
fire.
L
Yes,
sir,
there
are-
and
I
think,
the
the
provisions
that
are
within
the
current
california
building
code
for
a
very
high
fire
hazard
area
incorporates
those
elements,
and
I
I
don't
can't
give
you
an
exact
cost
of
what
that
those
upgrades
would
cost.
But
it
would,
it
would
be
an
additional
cost
for
typical
construction.
A
Is
there
is
there,
after
construction,
such
as
fuel
reduction
zones,
and
that
sort
of
types
of
things
that
the
fire
district
now
requires?
Is
that
something
that
would
also
be
of
value.
L
B
B
So
that
was
about
six
months
ago.
F
Any
well,
I
guess
we
can
close
the
hearing.
N
Upgrade
in
the
materials
from
b
to
a
we
lost
what
38
homes
in
the
woolsey
fire
and
if
you
did
anything
this
was
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
I
read
in
there.
So
I'm
glad
to
see
that
and
of
course,
one
of
the
morals
of
the
story
is
don't
build
in
the
wildlands
interface,
which
we
keep
doing
not
here
in
thousand
or
particularly,
but
in
other
communities.
N
So
with
that,
I
will
move
a
day.
The
california
state,
building
codes
with
the
local
amendments.
F
F
M
M
Mr
forbes
has
over
20
years
of
experience
in
the
planning
field,
including
experience
at
the
cities
of
burbank,
lindora
and
temple
city.
Most
importantly,
he
worked
in
two
other
comprehensive
general
plan
updates,
including
burbank
and
temple
city.
So
please
join
me
in
welcoming
mr
forbes
to
his
first
official
thousand
oaks
city
council
meeting.
M
I
would
also
like
to
introduce
two
individuals
in
the
audience
tonight.
Mr
david
plettner
saunders
and
dr
linda
flynn
from
the
cultural
planning
group,
they
are
sub-consultants
to
our
general
plan
team
and
led
the
town
hall
meeting
last
night
on
arts
and
culture.
Issues
related
to
that
element
of
the
general
plants
are
very
pleased
that
they
are
here
tonight
as
well,
and
so
with
that
introduction,
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
mr
matt
raimi.
O
Thank
you
mark
good
evening.
Everyone,
I'm
matt
raimi
with
raymond,
associates
great
to
be
back
here
in
front
of
you
all
talking
about
the
general
plan
and
the
work
that
we've
completed
to
date.
I
am
going
to
provide
an
update
tonight,
I'm
essentially
trying
to
tell
the
story
of
the
first
few
months
that
we've
had
on
the
project.
O
So
it's
going
to
be
an
update
on
the
progress
that
we
have
for
the
general
plan,
we're
going
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
existing
conditions,
review
the
results
from
the
community
engagement
activities
that
we
have
completed
to
date
and
then
present
preliminary
draft
first
cut
guiding
principles
for
the
general
plan.
I
have
qualified
this
one
multiple
times,
because
it's
meant
to
get
the
conversation
going
and
then,
after
that,
we
look
forward
to
comments
and
discussion
about
the
information
presented
this
evening.
O
We
are
into
the
really
the
the
listening
and
visioning
part
of
the
plan,
so
we're
moving
through
existing
conditions
and
listening
and
visioning
are
happening
somewhat
concurrently,
but
we
have
to
date,
conducted
a
lot
of
community
engagement
and
we
have
seven
existing
conditions,
reports
that
are
currently
in
process
which
will
be
wrapped
up
soon,
so
we
are
moving
through
the
process.
We
are
at
this
point
pretty
much
on
schedule
for
for
completing
the
project
as
we
have
outlined
here.
O
O
The
city
is
just
under
130
000
folks
it
has
grown
from
when
this
first
general
plan
was
adopted,
and
I
believe
there
are
about
thirty
five
thousand
people
in
the
city
in
nineteen.
Seventy,
throughout
this
information,
you'll
see
comparisons
to
the
to
ventura
county
or
to
the
state,
and
we
we
like
to
use
these
comparisons
to
show
where
the
city
is
just
relative
to
other
jurisdictions.
O
For
the
topic
of
race
and
ethnicity,
thousand
oaks
is
about
two-thirds
white
and
that
is
actually
significantly
different
than
the
then
ventura
county
as
a
whole,
where
it's
45
percent
white.
The
real
difference
is
here,
is
the
hispanic
latino,
where
ventura
county
is
43
percent
and
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
is
18.
O
For
housing,
the
median
property
value
in
thousand
oaks
is
higher
than
the
county.
663
000,
compared
to
520
000
about
three-quarters
of
the
housing
stock
was
built
before
1990
and
compared
to
the
county,
more
people
in
the
city
own,
which
is
70
percent
than
rent
about
30
percent.
The
county
is
63
percent
and
37
percent.
O
The
for
the
economics.
The
median
household
income
is
significantly
higher
in
thousand
oaks
at
over
a
hundred
thousand
compared
to
ventura
county
at
81
000
and
the
residence
in
poverty
defined
as
200
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
level
is
much
lower
than
ventura
county
27.4
percent
in
ventura
county
16.5
percent
in
thousand
oaks,
while
it
is
lower.
O
One
observation
that
we
had
that
you
all
have
told
us
about
and
that
the
communities
told
us
about
is
that
one
of
the
defining
characteristics
from
land
use
is
not
what's
built,
but
what's
not
built,
and
that
is
the
the
mountains
and
the
hills,
the
views
of
those
from
throughout
the
city,
and
this
really
provides
the
character
of
the
community.
O
Another
somewhat
obvious
observation
is
that
the
community
overall
is,
is
low
density
and
has
a
suburban
character.
That
is
how
the
city
was
planned.
That
is
how
it
was
formed
based
on
the
the
vision
in
the
1970
plan.
O
While
this
has
many
advantages
there,
this
also
results
in
a
large
separation
of
land
uses
and
a
very
auto
oriented
pattern
of
development,
and
so
the
separation
of
uses
and
the
auto
orientation
means
that
it's
very
difficult
for
people
to
walk,
to
get
to
services
that
they
need
and
they
are
left
to
drive
driving,
of
course,
causes
traffic
congestion,
and
it
also
leads
to
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
O
Another
comment
and
observation
is
that
there
in
the
city,
there
is
no
downtown
area,
which
is
why
the
the
downtown
master
plan
is
in
process,
but
there's
also
really
not
any
walkable
main
street
areas
and
areas
that
we
call
in
the
planning
world.
The
sort
of
the
third
places,
the
places
that
define
the
character
and
help
define
the
character
and
identity
of
the
community.
O
As
I
mentioned,
open
space
weekly
is
a
defining
parks
and
open
spaces,
really
a
defining
characteristic
of
the
city
about
45
percent
of
the
total
area.
The
fifth
of
the
55
square
miles
about
45
percent
is,
is
open
space
and,
as
you
know,
there
are
a
number
of
property
owners
for
the
open
space.
O
The
city,
the
county,
the
national
park
service,
the
state
and
some
of
it
is-
is
private
and
permanent,
open
space,
and
so
this
really
is,
as
you
know,
absolutely
an
amazing
gem
that
the
city
has
here
for
for
the
open
space
and
defines
the
character
of
the
community.
O
There
are
also
quite
a
large
number
of
public
facilities
that
we
see
throughout
the
city.
The
public
facilities
here
are
really
quite
amazing,
based
on
our
observations
and
comparison
to
other
communities.
The
canaho
valley,
school
district
has
a
number
of
schools
distributed
well
throughout
the
community.
There's
this
amazing
building
the
two
libraries,
the
thousand
oaks
teen
center,
the
global
adult
community
center
fire
stations,
the
police
department
and
then,
of
course,
the
thousand
oaks
transportation
center.
O
Throughout
the
process
and
I'll
talk
about
the
engagement
a
little
bit
later,
but
one
of
the
top
ideas
and
concerns
that
we
heard
was
about
housing,
and
this
came
up
in
multiple
different
ways.
But
but
housing
is
really
not
only
an
issue
in
the
state
and
the
region,
but
it
has
come
up
as
a
topic
of
concern
in
the
community.
Therefore,
it's
really
important
to
to
do
a
detailed
analysis
of
what's
going
on
in
the
community.
O
Regarding
housing,
I
already
presented
the
the
number
about
the
the
cost
of
housing,
the
median
cost
of
housing,
but
this
information
here
provides
the
breakdown
of
the
housing
inventory.
According
to
the
california
department
of
finance,
there
are
two
thirds
of
the
units
are,
are
detached.
O
One
unit
attached
is
really
kind
of
duplex
and
triplex,
and
that
adds
another
11
and
so
the
sort
of
the
single
family,
the
one
unit
attached
and
detached,
is
about
79
of
the
total.
So
almost
80
percent
of
the
total,
the
median
household
income
is,
is
higher
and,
as
I
said
before,
70
of
the
residents
own
their
own
housing
unit,
going
back
to
the
inventory
buildings
with
five
or
more
units
are
only
about
15
percent.
O
So,
overall,
there's
a
relatively
low
number
of
multi-family
housing
units
and
a
relatively
high
number
of
single-family
housing
units
or
one
unit
attached
jobs
and
economic
development
is
also
an
important
topic.
As
part
of
the
general
plan,
there
are
approximately
65
000
jobs
in
the
city.
Overall
thousand
oaks
is
a
net
importer
of
jobs.
There
are
44
000
employees
commuting
into
the
city
daily
and
they're,
also
36
400,
approximately
residents
who
commute
out
of
thousand
oaks
daily,
and
so
what
that
means
is
that
you
have
you
know.
O
It
also
results
in
some
of
the
impacts
that
we've
heard
throughout
the
city
of
traffic
congestion,
particularly
at
certain
times
of
the
day
and
at
certain
intersections
overall
there's
about
seven
percent
of
the
total
land
area
is
for
commercial
and
industrial
uses,
and
these
are
some
of
the
uses
that
actually
help
to
generate
taxes
for
the
city
to
help
pay
for
the
public
services
that
that
the
the
public
facilities
and
services
that
all
of
the
residents
enjoy
so
they're.
O
Very
it's
a
relatively
low
number,
but
a
very
high
high
in
the
importance.
O
We
want
to
pull
out
just
a
couple
of
the
of
the
main
of
the
points
here,
there's
a
lot
that
we
can
dive
into
in
transportation
and
again
it
was
mentioned
quite
a
bit
in
the
community
engagement
process,
but
the
the
chart
on
the
left.
As
you
see
here,
this
is
the
commute
to
work
mode
split
or
in
plain
english,
how
people
get
to
work
and
80
percent
of
the
people
in
the
city
drive
alone
to
work.
O
O
Four
percent
of
the
total,
which
is
typical
of
what
we
would
see
in
in
more
suburban
and
auto
oriented
communities
on
the
right,
is
vehicle
ownership
which
matches
the
trends
that
we've
seen
elsewhere,
which
is
that
that
quite
a
large
number
of
the
households
have
two
or
more
vehicles
and
a
very
small
number,
although
not
insignificant,
probably
about
four
or
five
percent
have
no
vehicle
at
all
and
actually
have
to
get
around
by
transit,
walking
or
biking.
O
This
map
here
shows
very
high
fire
severity
zones
and
it
actually
builds
off
of
the
the
previous
item
here.
So
the
a
very
large
percentage
of
the
city
is
in
a
very
high
fire
severity
zone.
O
We
also
looked
at
health
and
equity.
Overall,
the
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
is
healthier
than
the
county
and
state,
as
is
evidenced
by
the
information
that
you
see
here.
The
city
has
the
highest
life
expectancy
of
any
city
in
ventura
county.
O
We
look
at
the
leading
causes
of
death
to
understand
if
there's
any
differences
and
they're
pretty
much
the
same
for
the
first
two
causes
of
death,
cancer
and
heart
disease.
This
is
important
because
the
the
pattern
of
development
and
externalities
can
sometimes
cause
lead
to
causes
of
death
that
that
rise
higher
such
as
you
know,
cancers
are
actually
one
of
them,
but
also
different
disabilities,
resulting
from
proximity
to
freeways
and
other
places
in
environmental
pollution.
And
we
don't
see
a
lot
of
that
here.
O
Overall
residents,
adults
are
less
obese
than
the
county
as
a
whole.
21.9
of
adults
in
the
city
are
considered
obese
again,
it's
lower
than
the
county,
but
that
means
that
over
one-fifth
of
the
residents
are
are
considered
obese.
O
There
are
lower
asthma
rates
compared
to
the
county,
which
is
good,
there's
much
lower
crime
rates
compared
to
the
county
and
the
state
as
a
whole
and
again
overall,
despite
some
of
the
statistics,
the
main
one.
That
really
matters
is
that
there's
the
highest
life
expectancy
in
the
in
the
county,
and
so
the
thousand
oaks
residents
are
by
and
large,
healthier
than
than
the
county
residents
in
the
county
in
the
state.
O
One
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
do
in
the
process
and
as
part
of
existing
conditions
is
to
look
into
who
are
there
any
populations
or
sub-populations
that
are
just
have
a
health
disadvantage
compared
to
others?
So
we
can
address
that
through
through
the
built
environment.
O
We've
had
stakeholder
interviews,
we've
had
an
economic
development
focus
group,
a
founder's
discussion
and
that's
with
people
members
of
the
community
who
are
part
of
the
1970
master
plan.
We
had
a
community
workshop.
We've
had
three
general
plan
advisory
committee
meetings,
an
online
survey,
a
community
forum
which
is
was
an
informational
forum,
seven
pop-up
workshops
and
then
just
last
night
we
heard
about
the
arts
town
hall.
O
Let
me
go
into
first,
I'm
going
to
go
into
detail
on
some
of
the
these
events
and
then
the
results
high
level
results
of
what
we
found
so
first
is:
there
is
a
project
website
and
the
website
from
what
we
can
tell
is
being
used
pretty
regularly
by
the
community.
The
website
provides
background
information
on
the
general
plan
and
land
use
regulations.
There's
information
on
engagement,
the
agendas
notes
powerpoints
everything
that
we
have
produced
is
up
online.
O
We
have
an
online
survey
that
I'll
talk
about
in
a
minute
and
we
also
have
a
a
widget
to
allow
people
to
sign
up
to
receive
updates
about
the
general
plan
and
so
far
we
have
approximately
500
people
who
have
signed
up
for
that.
O
One
of
the
core
directional
pieces
for
the
general
plan
is
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
or
gpac.
There
are
24
members,
as
you
all
know,
they
represent
a
diversity
of
of
interests
in
the
city.
We've
had
three
meetings
to
date.
The
first
one
is
was
intro
to
the
general
plan
and
a
brainstorm
on
issues
and
opportunities.
O
O
The
guiding
principles
which
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
community
is
in
is
invited
to
attend
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
meetings
and
we
make
an
effort
at
those
meetings
to
make
sure
that
if
we
have
discussions
that
we
hear
what
the
public
has
to
say
as
well
overall
I'll
say
that
just
to
editorialize
a
little
bit,
this
general
plan
advisory
committee
has
been
really
great.
They've,
been
very
interested
they're,
asking
great
questions,
they're
engaged
and
they're
providing
really
good
feedback
to
us.
O
You
know
both,
you
know
ideas
but
also
kind
of
giving
us
suggestions
for
how
to
move
forward.
So
the
the
purpose
of
the
advisory
committee
it
is,
it
has
been
great
and
it
really
is
serving
its
purpose.
O
The
first
workshop
was
held.
A
community
workshop
was
held
on
september
12th
at
los
robles
greens.
This
attracted
over
125
people
for
those
who
were
there,
it
was,
it
was
absolutely
a
full
house.
O
What
are
the
issues
that
the
city
is
facing
and
what
is
your
vision
for
the
city
and
again,
I
think
the
the
workshop
went
went
really
well.
O
The
people
were
engaged
in
the
conversation,
and
it
was
what
was
impressive
to
me
was
how
members
of
the
community
were
very
respectful
to
one
another
one
another
when
there
were
differences
of
opinion
which
there
were,
but
it
was
done
in
a
in
a
respectful,
conversational
way
where
people
said
you
know,
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
and
again
that's
exactly
what
we
want
at
these
types
of
meetings,
because
not
everyone
is
willing
to
spend
an
evening
hanging
out
with
us.
O
O
These
workshops
for
those
who
stopped
by
and
attended,
were
really
a
lot
of
fun.
We
had
over
500
participants
at
these
different
events
and
again,
what
was
what
was
really,
I
think
important
about
this
was
that
we
had
two
things
one
is
we
had.
People
come
up
to
us
who
said
they'd
never
heard
about
the
process
and
they
were
participating,
and
the
second
was
appreciation
from
people
that
were
coming
out
into
the
community,
we're
going
to
the
people
and
asking
them
questions
and
asking
their
opinion
and
listening
to
what
they
say.
O
We
on
october,
2nd,
we
had
a
community
forum
right
here
in
this
room
and
charles
montgomery,
the
author
of
the
happy
city,
talked
about
how
urban
form
can
lead
to
can
impact
people's
lives.
There
were
a
lot
of
really
interesting
ideas
that
were
presented,
some
of
which
definitely
were
you
know,
stuck
with
people
and
some
of
which
and
resonated,
and
some
of
which
didn't,
which
is
exactly
what
we
want.
O
We
also
have
done
an
online
survey.
We've
had
nearly
500
responses.
We
asked
three
open-ended
questions
with
this.
In
addition
to
demographic
information,
again,
what
makes
thousand
oaks
unique
and
special
what
issues
is
the
city
facing
and
what
is
your
vision
for
the
city
and
then,
as
you
heard,
we're
also
doing
a
parallel
arts
and
culture
engagement
process.
O
Cultural
planning
group
who's
here
tonight
has
done
quite
a
number
of
stakeholder
interviews
these
folks,
as
you
see
here,
and
held
an
arts
town
hall
last
night
with
30
arts
leaders
and
I'm
sure
they'll
be
available
to
answer
questions
about
information
that
they've
found
out
throughout
the
process.
O
As
I
believe
I
mentioned
when
we
were
starting
this
process,
one
of
the
activities
that
we
do
with
engagement
is
we
track
who
attends
the
activities,
and
we
do
this
because
we
want
to
know
who's
attending
so
that
we
can
identify
who
we're
reaching
out
to
and
who
we're
not
reaching
out
to
who's,
not
participating
in
the
process,
and
we
use
this
so
that
we
can
go
back
and
target
our
engagement
activities
for
folks
who
haven't
necessarily
or
or
groups
who
haven't
necessarily
participated.
O
So
the
the
three
main
questions
that
we
asked
here
were
one:
do
you
live
work,
live
or
work
or
neither
live
nor
work
in
thousand
oaks
and,
as
you
can
see,
and
we
organized
it
by
pop-ups.
We.
O
We
took
this
information
at
four
of
the
seven
pop-ups
the
survey
again
with
about
500
people
and
then
the
workshop
with
about
100
people
or
so
responded
to
this
question,
and
you
know
what
we
can
see
is
that
it's
pretty
consistent
overall,
that
50
to
55
percent
of
the
people
live
in
thousand
oaks
at
the
pop-ups.
O
We
got
a
lot
more
who
and
the
workshop
who
live
and
work
in
thousand
oaks,
and
at
for
the
survey
we
actually
got
a
large
number
of
folks
who,
who
only
work
in
thousand
oaks
for
all
of
them.
We
got
a
relatively
small
percentage
of
people
who
do
not
live
or
work
in
thousand
oaks.
O
We
also
look
at
tenure
to
make
sure
that
we're
understanding,
whether
people,
how
long
people
have
lived
in
the
city
and
overall,
where
the
the
information
we've
gotten,
is
skewed
towards
folks,
who
have
been
here
for
21
or
more
years,
particularly
at
the
workshop
and
the
survey,
the
some
of
the
interesting
you
know.
O
Some
of
the
interesting
information
that
I
saw
here
is
that
the
pop-ups
looked
like
they
were
targeting
people
who
had
been
here
for
less
than
10
years
compared
to
some
of
the
other
survey
techniques
and
then,
in
terms
of
age.
Again,
it's
it's
skewing
a
little
bit
more
towards
the
older
populations.
O
The
pop-ups
did
a
better
job,
I
think
of
getting
the
the
younger
population.
We
had
one
focus
group
14
here,
which
is
accounts
for
the
14
of
youth,
because
we've
been
out
to
a
school,
but
what
what
we
noticed
here
immediately
is
that
the
18
to
24
demographic
did
not
participate
as
much
in
the
process.
O
So
this
points
to
future
engagement
activities
and
where
we
need
to
target
our
efforts.
The
spanish-speaking
population
was
not
was
hard
to
reach,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
to
make
more
effort
to
reach
that
population.
We
need
to
take
more
time
and
reach
out
to
youth
and
students.
We
need
to
talk
with
to
seniors
with
limited
mobility,
young
professionals
and
then,
as
we
do,
our
further
analysis
of
engagement,
we'll
identify
other
groups
again.
We've
we've
started
the
engagement
process.
O
It's
not
over,
and
so
this
information
really
helps
us
move
forward
through
the
process
we
I
want
to
now
switch
to.
What
did
we
hear
and
again?
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
consistency
across
the
different
events.
There
wasn't
necessarily
uniform
consistency
in
terms
of
what
the
outcomes,
but,
but
overall
we
we
kept
hearing
the
same
things
at
these
different
events,
so
that
really
allows
us
to
triangulate
the
information
and
understand
that
we're
actually
getting
we're
starting
we're
getting
good
information
here.
O
So
the
strengths
that
community
members
identified
number
one
is
the
high
quality
of
life
people
really
like
living
here.
People
like
the
location,
the
proximity
to
the
mountains
and
beaches,
open
space
came
up
again
and
again,
nature
and
outdoor
recreation,
high
quality,
public
and
private
schools.
People
felt
like
the
community
was
family
friendly.
It's
fiscally
sound
with
a
strong
job
and
retail
base,
there's
community
spirit
and
people.
O
A
lot
of
people
mentioned
kind
of
small
town,
character
and
charm,
which
is
which
is
unique
for
a
city
that
has
130
000
people,
it's
clean
and
safe,
and
a
lot
of
people
mentioned
arts
and
culture
as
being
a
strength.
O
There
were
also
a
lot
of
mention
of
the
great
neighborhoods,
the
public
facilities
and
services,
including
the
libraries
oak
trees,
came
up
again
and
again
views
clean
air,
the
diversity
of
community
organizations,
people
like
the
shopping
they
like
the
higher
education
overall
people
are
very
happy
in
the
city
and
residents
really
love
living
in
thousand
oaks.
That
came
up
again
and
again.
O
There
were,
however,
challenges
or
threats
that
people
discussed,
and
so,
as
we
start,
the
general
plan
I'll
reiterate
again
that
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
is
to
identify
what
are
the
strengths
of
the
community
and
not
mess
those
up
as
we
create
a
plan
and
mess
up
is
a
technical
planning
term
and
then
and
then
what
are
the
issues
and
the
that
we
need
to
overcome
and
what
are
the
threats
to
the
things
that
people
love
and
so
what
one
of
the
threats
or
challenges
that
people
talked
about
was
how
do
we
accommodate
new
development
in
the
city?
O
O
The
changing
nature
of
retail
was
mentioned,
particularly
the
the
character
and
the
quality
of
retail,
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
in
the
mall,
and
that
came
up
in
the
public
comment
and
there
are
lots
of
underutilized
spaces.
There
was
a
concern
overall
about
the
city
being
able
to
maintain
a
high
high
level
of
public
services.
O
We
also
asked
what
opportunities
people
had
for
the
thought
about
for
the
future,
and
these
are
listed
here
again.
Housing
came
up
quite
a
bit
of
the
desire
to
build
a
diversity
of
housing
types
and
to
build
more
housing
for
all
income
levels,
especially
lower
and
middle-income
housing
in
the
category
of
growth
and
development.
O
Multiple
people
talked
about
converting
some
of
the
shopping
centers
into
mixed-use
areas.
So
that
there's
more
living
and
working
and
creating
a
downtown
for
the
city,
there
were
lots
of
of
comments
about
expanding
economic
development,
about
diversity
of
jobs,
partnering
with
and
capitalizing
better
on,
the
presence
of
of
clu
cal,
lutheran
university
and
expanding
the
tax
base
with
transportation,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
improvements
were
were
mentioned,
probably
more
than
any
other
with
transportation.
O
There
was
also
a
desire
to
generally
maintain
traffic
flow
and
develop
innovative
traffic
solutions
with
safety.
There
was
a
desire
to
continue
to
support
police
and
the
low
crime
rates
and
to
really
deal
with
fire
safety
and
evacuation
plans.
Given
the
the
fires
that
have
happened
here
recently,
the
environment
came
up
a
lot,
even
though
it's
lower
on
the
list
of
of
slides
here.
O
That's
in
no
particular
order,
but
expanding
parks
and
open
space,
protecting
trees
and
addressing
climate
change
and
reducing
ghg
emissions
came
up
quite
a
bit,
particularly
the
parks
and
open
space
and
the
natural
beauty
of
the
city
and
then
opportunities
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
by
attracting
more
families
with
young
children.
Constructing
more
community
gathering
places
expanding
services
for
seniors
and
youth
and
then
well
great
already
expanding
arts
and
cultural
activities.
O
All
of
that
information
led
us
to
where
we
are
now,
which
is
beginning
to
to
draft
guiding
principles.
So
guiding
principles
are
a
framework
for
future
decision
making
and
they're
the
information
that
we
really
the
high
level
principles
on
which
the
general
plan
will
be
based.
O
They
flow
directly
out
of
community
engagement
and
they
also
provide
an
anchor
when
we're
talking
about
and
developing
policies
and
needing
to
make
trade-offs
about
which
ones
are
more
important
for
preliminarily
for
the
guiding
principles
for
the
general
plan,
we
have
broken
the
guiding
principles
into
two
components:
the
first
is
community
values
and
then
the
second
are
key
strategies,
so
community
values
are
sort
of
the
goals
or
the
direction
of
what
we
want
to
do.
It's
or
the
value
of
the
community.
O
We
want
to
here's
examples,
maintain
the
family,
character
of
thousand
oaks,
preserve,
open
space
and
natural
beauty
for
community
identity
and
enjoyment.
These
are
values,
people
value
the
open
space
here,
the
views,
people
value
the
family
character,
and
then
we
think
about
strategies
about
how
do
we
actually
get
to
the
community
values?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
they
happen?
O
Those
are
the
high
level
strategies,
so
we
will
protect
the
and
these
are
just
examples,
but
protect
the
character
and
identity
of
single
family
neighborhoods,
preserve
and
expand
parks
and
open
spaces
and
develop
a
network
of
trails
around
and
throughout
the
city.
So
again,
these
are
strategies
to
we
based
part
of
these
on
and
to
not
lose
track
of
the
fact
that
a
few
years
ago,
the
city
did
the
2064
visioning
program
and
actually
came
up
with
guiding
principles.
These
guiding
principles.
O
So
rest
assured
that
all
of
that
work
that
the
city
council
put
into
creating
this
is
is
really
valuable
and
will
absolutely
be
used
in
the
process
in
developing
the
guiding
principles
we
actually
our
last
gpac
meeting,
which
was
last
week.
O
We
gave
them
a
similar
presentation
and
the
results
and
then
asked
them
to
work
in
groups
to
brainstorm
on
the
community
values,
as
well
as
the
key
strategies,
and
so
what
we
have
here
are
real
and
then,
and
then
what
I
did
was
I
went
and
took
that
information
and
created
15
community
values
and
15
key
strategies.
O
This
is
a
first
cut,
I'm
sure
I
didn't
get
it
right,
but
it's
a
place
to
start
from,
so
the
community
values
I'll
go
through
these
quickly
because
they
really
do
reflect
what
we
heard
from
the
public.
One
is
a
family
friendly
community
with
a
high
quality
of
life,
two,
an
inclusive
and
welcoming
community
that
embraces
ethnic,
racial,
social
and
economic
diversity.
O
Three
diverse
and
high
quality
parks,
public
service
services
and
facilities
for
the
protection
of
open
spaces,
oak
trees
and
natural
beauty
and
habitat
five,
a
suburban
community
that
is
easy
to
get
around
and
where
you
can
live
work
shop
and
play
six.
The
ability
to
live
in
the
city,
regardless
of
income
or
stage
in
life,
seven
recognition
that
the
community
will
evolve
over
time
and
that
change
is
inevitable.
O
Thirteen,
a
city
that
recognizes
its
role
as
a
leader
in
the
canejo
valley,
ventura
county
and
the
southern
california
region,
14,
a
leader
in
climate
change
and
virus
environmental
sustainability
and
then
15
an
active
and
involved
community
flowing
from
this
were
more
specific
strategies
about
how
to
implement
the
the
the
community
values.
So
these
somewhat
parallel
what
you
heard
before
and
again
we
created
15
of
them,
because
that
seemed
like
a
good
number
first
is
create
a
diversity
of
housing,
types
and
affordability
levels,
especially
mixed
use
and
multi-family
development.
O
Two
protect
single-family
neighborhoods
from
increased
development;
three
create
more
meeting
and
gathering
spaces
to
enhance
community
four
build
a
downtown
for
the
city.
Five
revitalized
underutilized
land,
including
malls
all
the
shopping,
centers
and
thousand
oaks
boulevard
with
a
diverse,
diverse
mix
of
uses,
including
residential
six
expand.
The
number
and
diversity
of
entertainment
options,
seven
expand
the
number
and
diversity
of
jobs
in
biotech
healthcare
and
education
and
attract
new
jobs
and
businesses
to
the
city.
O
Eight
improve
public
transportation;
nine,
create
a
complete
and
safe
bicycle
network;
ten
improve
walkability
in
the
city,
eleven
preserve
and
expand
parks
and
open
spaces,
including
the
preservation
of
oak
trees,
completing
a
ring
of
open
space
around
the
city
and
building
new
parks,
as
the
population
grows.
12.
continue
and
expand.
The
high
quality
and
diversity
of
public
services
provided
by
the
city,
focusing
on
youth,
seniors
and
residents
with
special
needs.
O
The
the
feedback
that
we
would
love
to
get
from
you
this
evening
is
whether
you
have
any
comments
or
questions
or
feedback
on
the
community
engagement
that
we
have
completed
to
date
and
again
this
is
only
the
beginning
of
the
engagement
process.
O
Second,
what
additional
guiding
principles
which
are
comprised
of
community
values
and
key
strategies
should
be
added,
should
any
be
modified
or
deleted,
and
then
last
you
have
any
other
thoughts
about
the
general
plan
update
process
as
we
move
into
feedback
I'll
just
say
that
I
think,
while
while
being
particularly
with
engagement,
while
we
have
done
a
huge
amount
of
engagement
to
date,
we
have
spoken
with,
I
think,
over
a
thousand
people
who
we've
engaged
in
the
process
way
more
than
that
know
about
the
process.
O
O
While
I
know
that
what
I
presented
this
evening
was
a
lot
of
information,
we
thought
it
was
really
important
to
feedback
what
we
heard
from
the
community
in
as
true
a
forum
as
we
could.
Clearly
it
doesn't
cover
everything
that
people
said,
there's
so
much
there,
but
we
wanted
to
be
as
true
as
we
could
to
the
process
and
to
what
people
said,
and
with
that
in
mind,
we
do
have
on
the
website
all
of
the
notes.
O
From
all
of
our
meetings,
including
when
people
wrote
comments
down,
we
actually
have
scanned
those
and
put
those
on
the
website
as
well,
so
anyone
who
wants
can
actually
go
and
look
at
all
of
the
comments
that
we've
received
so
far
in
the
process.
Again,
we
think
that
this
transparency
is
important
at
community
building
and
building
trust
in
the
process.
F
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
this.
This
update
it's
it's!
It's
so
important
that
we
get
the
word
out
to
everybody
that
this
is
not
the
council's
general
plan.
This
is
not
the
staff's
general
plan.
It's
the
people
of
thousand
oaks
general
plan,
and
I
encourage
everybody
to
join
that
thousand
people
who
have
already
put
their
word
in
and
get
you
know,
give
us
your
input.
Where
do
you
want
the
city
to
be
in
2020
2045.?
A
Let's,
let's
all
get
on
on
this
and
make
it
happen
with
that
said,
in
terms
of,
did
you
want
feedback
on
some
of
our
guiding
principles?
Is
that
what
you
had
asked
for
tonight.
P
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
appreciate
all
the
community
outreach
I've
attended
several
of
these
meetings
and
I'm
always
happy
to
see
the
public
involved.
P
That
was
the
way
it
happened
originally
and
I'm
glad
we
still
have
the
interest
in
trying
to
improve
the
community.
Even
more
I'm
glad
to
see
the
desirable
place
to
live
was
was
high
on
the
list.
F
Councilmember
jones,
if
I
could,
I
meant
to
say
something
before
we
went
to
the
council
for
questions
tonight.
It's
critical
that,
if
we're
asking
questions
simply
about
what
they've
shared,
but
as
far
as
our
view
and
our
vision,
that's
this
isn't
the
time
for
it,
because
we
want
the
community
to
have
primary
input.
So
if
all
of
us
just
grasp
that
right
comment
on.
P
All
right
the
guiding
principles,
etc.
What
would
you
say
is
an
overriding
of
all
of
these
concerns
and
the
guiding
principles,
and
so
were
there
any
say.
Two
or
three
of
these
that,
you
might
say,
were
overriding
concerns
more
than
others.
O
Yeah,
I
think
there
are
there.
We
haven't
done
a
thorough
scientific
analysis,
so
this
is
going
to
be
my
own
impression
from
the
events
that
I've
attended,
so
I'll
sort
of
couch
it
with
that
at
first,
but
the
one
is
again
the
the
appreciation
for
the
quality
of
life
in
the
community.
Here
that
really
came
out
as
as
being
really
important.
O
The
second
is
the
open
space
and
the
fact
that
there
is
so
much
open
space
that
is
here
and
the
public
facilities
and
services
which
I
think
are
part
of
that
whole
quality
of
life.
The
third
is
while
there
was
a-
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
big
tensions-
and
I
know
you
started
by
saying
there's
some
contradictory
things
in
the
guiding
principles.
There
are
tensions
that
I
think
we're
seeing
here,
which
is
that
you
know
there
are
there's
beautiful
and
amazing
single-family
neighborhoods
here.
P
Well,
do
you
see
any
implications
for
that?
I,
as
I've
stated
many
times,
I'd
like
to
see
any
anybody.
You
know
with
a
decent
job
or
like
a
policeman
or
a
teacher,
or
you
know,
somebody
in
the
servicer
would
be
able
to
live
here,
but
we
know
that
with
the
current
prices,
as
you
have
shown
on
your
survey,
that
would
be
very
difficult,
yeah
and
what
occurs
to
me
is
that
that
you
say
the
overriding
thing
is
that
people
are
very
many
people.
P
O
For
the
community,
let
me
let
me
actually
pause
here
for
a
second.
The
the
first
comment
you
made
was
about.
It
was
was
beginning
to
get
into
policy
and
what
are
the
implications
of
some
of
the
comments.
O
O
Well
so,
but
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
there
are
some
of
the
of
the
implications
of
you
know,
making
changes
and
the
ideas
that
people
have
here
that
I
presented
on
that
that
they
said
about
things
they
want
to
see.
O
Those
are
things
that
we're
going
to
be
getting
to
in
the
next
phase
and
that
we
are
also
going
to
as
part
of
the
next
phase
going
to
do
a
prioritization
exercise
to
understand
what
people's
priorities
are,
and
so
some
of
the
questions
that
you're
asking
what
we
wanted
to
do
in
this
phase
was
to
just
kind
of
ask
very
broadly
what
people
wanted
and
pull
it
back
together.
O
Then
we're
going
to
take
that
information
and
do
a
prioritization,
so
we'll
actually
be
able
to
get
better
information
to
answer
the
questions
you're
asking
as
we're
moving
forward,
but
they're
they're
important
questions.
I
think
we
just
don't.
We
only
have
sort
of
my
observations
and
I
think
we're
going
to
get
better
information
about
that.
Coming
up.
P
Well,
can't
you
derive
from
all
these
meetings
and
all
the
conversation
really
the
sort
of
the
overall
feeling
or
an
overall
sense
of
where
the
people
would
like
us
to
go
from
here.
I
have
the
feeling
that
a
lot
of
people
are
rather
satisfied
that
it
would
tend
to
indicate
to
me
that
we
don't
really
want
any
dramatic
changes.
Maybe
I've
reached
the
wrong
conclusion.
I
know
I'm
supposed
to
be
asking
questions,
mr
mayor,
but
the
question
is:
how
much
change
do
you
think
people
want
in
this
community?
I.
O
Think
I
think
we're
going
to
get
to
that
question
in
the
process,
because
I
think
that
we
did
hear
people
are
happy.
We
also
heard
that
people
want
not
everyone,
but
but
there
were
quite
a
number
of
people
who
who
wanted
to
see
change
in
limited
areas
of
the
city,
and
so
I
think
there
were
actually
you
know.
O
I
don't
know
what
the
percentage
is,
but
but
a
lot
really
said
they
wanted
to
see
change
in
different
parts
of
the
city
and
the
question
becomes-
and
that
was
one
of
my
first
comments
and
the
sort
of
this
tension
of
how
do
you?
O
P
O
O
N
Oh,
thank
you
mayor
yeah.
The
staff
report
says
you're
looking
for
feedback
and
direction.
Is
that
correct.
O
Yeah
we
we
wanted
to
give
you
a
an
overview
of
where
we
are
and
accept.
N
Okay,
well,
here's
some
feedback,
and
you
stated
this
yourself.
I
really
hope
you
devise
a
way
to
get
more
young
people
involved
in
this.
73
of
the
people
are
45
or
older
and
30
percent
of
that
or
65
or
older
got
to
hear
from
some
young
people.
One
percent
you
got
to
come
up
with
something
to
get.
The
young
people
involved
number
two:
the
center
for
economic
research
and
forecast
at
a
cal
lou,
put
out
a
report
recently
about
ventura
county
as
a
whole.
N
It's
really
telling
I'm
not
sure
how
much
of
it
applies
to
t.o,
but
I'd
like
you
to
take
that
into
consideration,
glad
to
see
that
you're,
focusing
on
housing
in
the
next
year
thousand
oaks
is
the
third
lowest
housing
start
of
of
the
ten
cities.
There's
only
two
below
us,
ohio
and
port
juanimi,
so
housing
would
be
important
and
it
it
shows
in
the
survey.
N
You
know
only
according
to
that
report,
that
is
only
about
30
percent
of
ventura.
County
residents
can
even
afford
to
buy
a
house.
So
I'd
like
you
to
get
some
feedback
on
that,
and
you
mentioned
greenhouse
gases,
which
I
think
is
on
a
lot
of
people's
mind:
the
environment.
N
There's
a
there's,
a
website
called
you've,
probably
seen
it
called
walk
score,
and
I
ran
my
address
in
there.
I
live
in
a
typical
thousand
oaks.
Community
and
100
is
the
most
walkable
community
you
can
be
in
or
most
walkable
address
mine
got
an
11,
completely
car
dependent.
N
You
you
any
errand
according
to
this
site
that
I
would
do.
I
have
to
do
it
by
car.
So
let's
get
some
feedback
on
that.
How
we
can
try
to
turn
the
tide
and
be
not
be
so
car
dependent
in
thousand
oaks.
The
overall
rating
for
thousands
was
33.
we're
in
the
bottom.
Third,
when
it
comes
to
walkability-
and
I
think
that's
on
people's
minds.
N
When
you
talk
about
young
people
too-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
was
in
the
survey
or
not-
but
I'm
concerned
about
this
migration
that
we
may
be
having
in
thousand
oaks
this
net
migration
out,
I'd
like
to
find
out
a
little
bit
more
from
the
general
plan
update
about
who's
leaving
the
city.
Is
it
young
people
and
who's
coming
in,
because
I
think
that's
very
important
to
the
long-term
sustainability
of
the
city
which
brings
me
to
and
and
this
goes
all
the
way
back
to
who's,
responding
to
the
survey
we're
rapidly
aging
community.
N
N
Let's
get
some
input
on.
You
know
how
this
general
plan
update
would
deal
with
this
huge
influx
of
seniors
that
we're
having
and
where
do
we
bring
in
the
young
people
to
help
sustain
that
group-
and
I
know
these
aren't
questions
mayor,
but
jobs
too.
I
didn't
see
much
in
there
about
jobs
a
little,
but
I'm
concerned
that
we're
not
creating
the
kind
of
job
high-paying
jobs
that
we
need
to
be
information
technology
finance.
We
seem
to
be
always
into
the
education
and
healthcare
end
of
it,
which
is
fine.
N
I
mean
that's
great,
but
you
know
we
need.
We
need
to
create
the
kind
of
city
that
can
attract
high-paying
jobs.
We're
trying
to
do
this
with
the
biotech
hub
that
we're
trying
to
create,
but
it's
going
to
involve
housing.
It's
going
to
involve
a
lot
of
other
aspects.
So
I'd
like
to
see
that
addressed
and
then
I
mean,
after
all,
amgen
sent
500
people
to
tampa
because
we
didn't
have
the
housing
and
we
didn't
have
the
affordability
that
they
needed.
N
So
there
weren't,
500,
high-paying
jobs,
can't
we
we
need
to
bring
high-paying
jobs
in
and
then.
Finally,
in
that
survey
that
I
read,
they
had
an
interesting
thing
called
the
2019
metro,
monitor
and
out
of
a
hundred
of
the
largest
metro
areas
in
the
united
states,
we're
in
one
called
the
oxnard
ventura
thousand
oaks
area.
As
far
as
economic
prosperity
and
growth
came,
we
came
in
96
out
of
100.
N
96
out
of
100
said:
let's
throw
that
out
out
there
to
the
committee
and
see
if
they
want
to
grapple
with
something
now,
because
what
I'm
afraid
of
here,
you
know,
we
always
talk
about
this
quality
of
life
and
thousand
likes.
We've
got
to
protect
this
quality
of
life
and
I'm
all
for
it,
I'm
enjoying
it
myself.
N
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
this
definition
of
quality
of
life
is
accessible
to
all
and
is
becoming
less
and
less
acceptable
to
many
of
the
people
that
live
here
in
the
city,
it's
accessible
to
people
that
been
here
for
30
40
years
and
they're
sitting
on
a
house,
that's
worth
a
million
and
a
half
dollars.
But
what
about
some
of
the
younger
people
is
this
quality
of
life
that
we're
trying
to
protect?
Is
that
accessible
to
them
too?
N
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
out
so
there's
my
observations
and
see
if
we
can't
work
that
in
there
thanks.
B
Thank
you
mayor
mccoy.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
that
is
the
age
range
of
the
people
that
so
far
you
have
been
in
touch
with,
and
obviously,
as
you
pointed
out,
the
age
range
18
to
24
is
is
very
low.
Low
participation
and.
B
I
am
wondering
first
of
all
how
we
can
reach
those
young
people
other
than
going
to
clu
using
instagram
twitter,
maybe
not
so
much
facebook,
but
twitter
instagram,
I'm!
I
don't
think
snapchat
can
help
us
in
this,
but
how
are
we
reaching
them
and
what
do
we
think
they
could
contribute?
B
Many
of
them
will
be
obviously
high
school
students,
college
students.
Some
of
them
are
not,
and
so
what
is
it
that
we
are
actually
trying
to
have
them
contribute
council?
Member
adam
mentioned.
We
need
to
reach
those
people
and,
and
we
need
to
provide
housing.
I'm
just
wondering
what
sort
of
feedback
are
we
expecting
from
that
age
group
compared
to
perhaps
other
outreach
programs
that
you
have
conducted
outside
of
this
area.
O
To
just
answer
initially,
you
know
we,
as
I
said
what
we
did
in
this
first
in
this
first
tranche
of
engagement,
was
the
meetings
that
we
that
we
had.
We
did
some
trying
to
target
different
demographics,
which
is
why
we
had
a
pop-up
at
tarantula
hill,
but
I
think
we
need
to,
and-
and
we
just
we
just
finished
this
so
now-
we're
in
the
analysis
phase.
So
the
the
list
that
I
gave
you
and
that
you
see
here
on
the
slide
are
areas
where
we
need
to
spend
more
time.
O
Thinking
about
it,
so
I
don't
have
specific
answers,
but
but
definitely
the
high
schools,
clu
youth
groups
are
all
you
know
and,
and
businesses
that
have
young
professionals
are
all
groups.
We
really
need
to
spend
more
time
and
they're
they're
harder
to
reach
in
a
in
a
process
like
this.
This
is
these
numbers
are
not
atypical
of
communities,
but
it
just
means
that
we
need
to
do
more
work
in
doing
this
and
that's
you
know,
we
got
a
lot
of
great
information.
O
We
had
a
lot
of
great
conversations,
but
we're
still
going
to
need
to
do
more
and
do
more
engagement
in
terms
of
what
we're
going
to
hear.
I
I
couldn't
speculate
and
I
shouldn't
speculate
on
what
people
are
going
to
say.
B
I
would
imagine
not,
but
on
the
issue
of
housing,
I
have
to
point
out
that
ventura
county
is
still
the
least
expensive
area
to
buy
a
house
in
much
less
expensive
than
los
angeles
county
and
much
less
expensive
than
orange
county.
B
So
I
I
just
want
that
to
be
out
there
that
this
is
still
a
more
affordable
place
to
live
than
our
neighbors
to
the
south,
and
with
that
said,
I
I
think
so
far,
I'm
very
happy
with
the
results
that
we
have
so
far,
but
I
do
look
forward
to
getting
feedback
from
that.
Particular
age
group
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
F
Q
Good
evening,
mr
mayor,
good
evening,
I
was
going
to
defer
to
mr
kazden
he's
also
a
speaker.
He
has
to
attend
an
event.
So
can
I
have.
F
E
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
I'm
going
to
the
speaker
series.
It
starts
at
eight
o'clock.
I
understand.
I'm
gonna
see
john
general
john
kelly
anyhow.
My
name
is
steve.
Caston,
I'm
a
property
owner
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
I'm
a
member
of
the
board
of
toba
and
I
really
feel
very
strongly
about
the
future
for
thousand
oaks,
the
presentation
about
a
healthy
community.
E
I
was
here
it's
right
on
target.
Coincidentally,
that
day
I
had
lunch
with
my
nephew
who's
on
staff
at
yale
university,
and
he
was
here.
I
had
no
idea
what
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
and
we're
talking
about
a
healthy
lifestyle,
a
healthy
community,
exactly
what
was
said
here
and
you
need
a
healthy
community
where
people
have
somewhere
to
go
they're,
not
sitting
in
their
house
watching
tv
all
day.
It
all
related
and
my
my
nephew,
the.
M
E
I
think
we
there's
a
lot
of
room
to
improve
this
community.
I
love
thousand
oaks.
I've
been
buying
real
estate
here,
I'm
moving
my
business
from
la
here.
My
daughter
is
a
teacher
and
thought
she
lives
in
thousand
oaks.
My
two
grandchildren
attend
cal,
lutheran
university.
E
I
have
a
stake
in
this
community,
so
I
think
we
need
balanced
growth
and
there's
a
lot
of
improvement
to
be
made.
Also,
I
want
to
say
people
don't
think
parking
is
important.
It
is
very
important,
so
I
would
love
to
see
the
city
have
some
structures,
maybe
one
two,
maybe
three
along
the
boulevard.
It's
a
long
street.
It's
what
three
miles
long.
So
we
want
to
encourage
pedestrian
traffic.
People
have
a
place
to
go.
E
Restaurants
are
essential.
You
need
nightlife
and
there's
so
much
room
without
ruining
a
thousand
oaks.
What
it
is
I
grew
up
in
santa
monica.
I
saw
the
growth
there
too
much
growth.
My
parents
had
a
store
on
the
santa
monica
mall.
They
were
part
of
the
group
of
people.
That
said,
let's
put
in
parking,
but
let's
pay
for
it,
so
the
property
owners
paid
for
all
the
structures
on
the
santa
monica
mall.
E
E
Q
Yeah
I
didn't
want
to
wave
my
time.
I
accommodated
him
good
evening,
mayor
council
members,
sean
roddian
life,
wrong
resident,
a
thousand
oaks
and
the
president
of
the
thousand
expo
of
art
association.
I
want
to
take
a
moment
really
to
just
say
some
observations,
independently
of
what
we've
observed
over
the
last
couple
of
months
with
the
general
plan
outreach
process
with
raymond
associates
and
along
with
staff's
efforts.
Q
First
off,
the
the
volume
of
information
that
we
just
received
is
truly
remarkable
for
such
a
short
period
of
time.
I
mean
all
these
workshops,
all
these
pop-ups,
all
this
community
engagement.
This
all
happened
in
two
months
over
a
thousand
people
engaged.
Q
You
know
I
wanted
to
go
into
some
detail
about
some
other
observations
about
what
we
heard
that
are
important
to
the
community,
but
the
report
was
so
thorough
with
so
much
information
that
I
really
won't
reiterate,
but
I
think
it
does
show
a
good
self-reflection
of
where
we
are.
I
think
the
tone
that
I
noticed
from
a
lot
of
our
community
outreach
engagements
were
unity.
A
lot
of
people
wanted
the
same
thing.
There
was
a
lot
of
meetings
of
the
mind.
Q
Q
So
what
I
would
say
you
know
in
all
is
that
you
guys
are
doing
a
fantastic
job,
I'm
very
happy
with
how
we
see
the
process
going.
I
think
you've
got
a
lot
of
good
governing
principles
to
really
to
really
focus
around,
and
thank
you
appreciate
it.
F
Thank
you,
sir.
We
have
one
more
public
speaker,
chase,
rashid.
R
Good
evening,
hi
chase
rasheed
thousand
oaks.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council,
a
couple
of
things
about
the
18
to
24
people
not
giving
much
feedback
to
a
larger
extent.
The
25
to
34
the
simpler
at
the
simpler
answer,
for
it
is
that
a
lot
of
young
younger
people
find
this
sort
of
process
boring.
If
they're,
not
if
they're,
not
the
type
of
person,
that's
that
likes
civics,
they're,
not
gonna,
show
up.
So
I
know
the
canyon
club
they
do.
Borderline
nights.
R
They've
picked
up
a
lot
of
the
young
people
that
went
there.
I
don't
know.
Maybe
there
could
be
an
arrangement
made
with
that,
so
to
do
a
pop-up
there
or
wherever
some
of
the
the
restaurants
and
bars
that
have
picked
up
some
of
those
people
are
are
going.
R
Maybe
that
can
be
done
and
as
for
housing,
one
of
the
things
I
mentioned
in
the
last
gpac
meeting
was
figuring
out
about
tiny
houses,
because
I
saw
a
report
on
fox
11
where
some
young
people
were
building
and
selling
tiny
houses,
and
I
think
that
is
an
important
thing
to
think
about.
How
is
that
gonna
fit
into
zoning?
R
Should
it
be
allowed
here
and
also
apartments
built
for
people
who
don't
have
cars
and
are
okay
not
having
a
car?
If
it
means
housing,
they
would
be
okay
using
public
transportation.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
would
make
that
trade
off.
So
thank
you.
F
B
The
I
wanted
to
find
out
whether
thousand
oaks,
along
with
other
neighboring
cities,
is
still
in
violation
of
epa
regulations,
in
particular
with
ozone,
whether
that
has
become
worse
over
time
I
mean
with
we
have
a
lot
of
electric
cars,
but
I'm
just
wondering
asthma
and
environmental
pollution
was
being
mentioned
in
your
presentation.
O
B
B
P
Councilmember
jones
yeah
just
one
quick
observation.
I
I
was
struck
by
what
councilwoman
villa
about
18
to
24
year
olds,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
with
the
prices
of
housing,
now
as
opposed
to
when
I
came
here
many
years
ago,
18
to
24
year
olds
could
afford
to
put
a
down
payment
on
a
house
because
they
were
costing
20
to
30
thousand
dollars.
P
P
Frankly,
if
you
have
18
to
24
year
olds,
they're-
probably
living
at
home
with
their
parents,
because
they're
not
able
to
get
into
the
housing
market
as
yet,
and
I
I
think
a
lot
of
these
goals
are
marvelous,
but
some
of
them
are
a
little
bit
contradictory
to
want
things
that
are
going
to
actually
add
to
the
cost
of
housing.
To
make
this
a
more
beautiful
place.
But
I'm
worried
to
council
and
dale
pena
about
the
younger
people,
and
I
just
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
work.
F
M
F
M
M
They
were
crafted
by
the
general
plan
advisory
committee,
but
they
are
based
on
this
body
of
of
public
thought
and
and
recommendations
that
we
heard
over
the
past
several
months,
also
just
to
also
make
it
clear
that
while
we
we
clearly
intend
to
reach
out
to
younger
residents
of
the
city,
all
viewpoints
from
all
demographic
sectors
of
the
community
are
equally
important
and
then
just.
Finally,
I
would
just
like
to
thank
matt
and
his
team
and
a
very
large
city
team
that
worked
on
this
project
over
the
past
few
months.
M
I
know
that
this
is
really
just
the
start
of
the
general
plan
update,
but
it's
been
a
very
busy
period.
At
times
we
were
holding
public
input
events
every
several
days,
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
entire
team
here
and
the
and
perhaps
most
important,
the
community
for
participating
through
through
this
wide
variety
of
media
and
also
also
through
the
online
survey.
So
it's
it's
been
very
gratifying
to
see
the
public
involvement
to
date.
O
Quickly,
I'm
sorry
I
just
realized.
I
forgot
to
talk
about
next
steps
which
are
important,
as
maybe
a
good
closing
here,
so
continued
engagement,
we're
going
to
refine
and
finalize
the
guiding
principles.
These
will
come
back
to
you,
they're
working
living
principles,
really
they
were
developed
over
the
last
few
days.
O
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
those
we're
going
to
publish
the
existing
conditions
reports
and
then
we're
jumping
into
two
important
phases:
the
alternatives,
development
process
and
then
starting
to
talk
about
policy
topics
such
as
housing
and
economic
development.
Both
topics
that
came
up
from
all
of
you
this
evening
as
being
really
important.
So
this
is
where
we're
shifting
from
the
collecting
information
to
starting
to
analyze,
information
and
understanding
what
choices
are
that
the
city
can
make
and
what
that
means.
O
O
If
there's
gonna,
you
know
for
where
growth
can
go
in
the
city
and
then
also
housing
and
diving
in
deep
into
housing
policy,
and
then
we're
gonna
have
our
next
community
forum
in
late
january
and
then
we'll
be
coming
back
to
you
periodically
to
keep
getting
feedback
and
give
you
updates
on
where
we
are
in
the
process,
and
it's
been
great
so
far.
So
I
appreciate
the
community
and
staff's
time
with
this.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
councilmember
bill
de
la
pena.
Did
you
want
to
make
a
motion.
B
Actually,
I
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion,
but
I
did
have
one
more
question
if
I
may-
and
that
is,
I
am
glad
that
staff
is
incorporating
the
vision,
visioning
2064,
guiding
principles
so
which
we
conducted
a
few
years
ago,
and
then
my
question
is:
are
these
other
guiding
principles
going
to
be
subcategories
of
the
visioning
principles
or
how
will
they
be
implemented?
B
And
then
my
the
second
portion
is,
you
are
working
with
the
arts
consultants
who
are
here
tonight
right
on
on
including
their
feedback
from
their
outreach
efforts,
okay
and
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
arts
and
culture
is
important
to
the
residents
with
whom
you
have
been
in
touch
with.
B
Thank
you
that
was,
I
can
make
the
motion.
Should
they
answer
the
question
first
and
then
I
can
make
the
motion
to
prove.
Is
it.
H
M
B
M
Can
I
can
respond
to
that
the
guiding
principles,
the
the
summary
was
provided
to
the
advisory
committee
and
obviously
it's
been
available
to
the
community
for
the
past
four
years.
Those
are
being
considered
as
part
of
the
body
of
information
to
craft
the
the
draft
guiding
principles.
So
that's
it's
it's
essentially
being
considered
and
will
be
melded
in
with
the
with
the
thought
process
that
is
crafting
the
final
guiding
principles.
B
Wonderful
and
with
that,
I
just
make
the
motion
to
receive
and
file
with
the
feedback
that
you
receive
tonight
and
to
come
back
to
council
at
a
later
date.
When
is
it
no.
G
Earlier
that
day
we
will
have
our
2019
state
of
the
city
address
and
luncheon
up
the
clu
gilbert
sports
arena
that
we
heard
about
earlier
today
and
just
a
reminder
we
will
have
back-to-back
meetings.
So
that
is
our
reorg
meeting
on
the
third
and
then
we
have
a
meeting
on
the
10th
of
december,
and
that
will
be
our
final
business
meeting
of
the
calendar
year
2019..
F
F
I
think
the
old
joke
was
the
two
happiest
days
of
a
person's
life
is
when
they
buy
a
boat
and
they
sell
it.
I
think
it's
when
you
become
mayor
and
you
get
to
get
off,
so
this
is
my
last
meeting
as
mayor
so
yeah
and
that
concludes
thank
you.
Everybody
good
night.