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A
B
D
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you
all
for
coming
to
city
hall.
This
evening
we
have
more
than
100
people
joining
us
via
zoom
for
public
comments.
It's
going
to
be
a
long
night
and
each
speaker
will
have
about
three
minutes.
I'm
sorry
two
minutes
to
speak
two
minutes
and
I
urge
everyone
on
zoom,
as
well
as
here
in
person,
to
stick
to
the
two
minutes.
I
will
have
to
cut
you
off
after
that,
because
we're
expecting
about
at
least
five
hours
of
public
comments
so
and
with
that
I
will
ask
our
clerk
for
the
roll
call.
F
B
G
B
This
endeavor
started
about
two
years
ago,
and
here
we
are,
in
the
final
stretch,
to
approve
a
land
use
map
and
because
this
is
a
special
meeting,
we
will
hear
public
comments
after
the
presentation
by
staff.
Okay,
anyone
who
is
not
speaking
on
the
land
use
issue.
The
general
plan
issue
will
not
be
allowed
to
speak.
You
can
speak
at
a
different
council
meeting
in
the
future,
so
here
today
is
only
for
the
general
plan
preferred
land
use
map
all
right.
B
I
will
hand
it
over
to
our
community
development
advisor
mark
town
and
he
will
be
joined
by
matt
ramey,
the
principal
of
ramy
and
associates.
So
after
the
staff
presentation
and
consultant
presentation,
I
will
give
each
council
member
no
more
than
three
minutes
to
give
their
input
on
the
land
use
map
that
was
before
us
this
evening.
I
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
members
of
the
city
council,
members
of
the
community.
It
truly
is
a
pleasure
to
be
here
this
evening
with
you
to
discuss
this
preferred
land
use
map
before
we
get
into
the
body
of
the
report,
though,
I
did
want
to
make
some
initial
remarks
with
regard
to
land
use
maps
what
they
are
and
where
we
are
in
the
process
going
forward.
I
The
the
overarching
purpose
of
a
land
use
map
is
to
create
a
vision
for
the
city's
future,
and
by
that
I
mean
not
only
the
physical
development
of
the
city,
which
is
the
traditional
definition,
but
also
the
preservation
of
environmental
resources
within
a
city.
Those
areas
that
are
set
aside
apart
and
and
and
separate
from
developed
areas,
that's
the
highest
role
or
or
purpose
of
a
land-use
map
coming
down
in
terms
of
scale
is
the
long-range
purpose.
I
I
So
what
the
uses
are
and
where
they're
allowed,
and
that
then
has
has
direct
relevance
to
a
number
of
community
goals,
for
instance,
adapting
to
changes
in
our
local
economy,
creation
of
more
jobs,
retention
of
jobs,
providing
a
range
of
housing
both
in
terms
of
type
and
and
quantity,
and
then
also
preserving
the
environment,
because,
of
course,
the
land
use
map.
Not
only
is
related
to
topics
such
as
open
space,
but
also
the
number
of
times
we
get
into
our
cars
and
and
drive
to
various
destinations
at
a
short
range
level.
I
I
I
should
also
note
that
land
use
maps
are
not
static,
they're
very
dynamic,
they're,
constantly
being
refined
to
address
the
evolving
needs
of
a
community,
whether
it's
incremental
or
as
in
this
case.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
we
have
not
conducted
a
comprehensive
update
of
our
general
plan
in
50
years,
so
this
is
the
first
time
we've
done
it.
I
I
That
was
our
general
plan
50
years
ago
and
the
one
on
the
bottom
is
our
general
plan.
Land
use
map
today,
and
you
can
just
tell
by
briefly
comparing
the
two
visually
that
many
areas
that
were
proposed
for
for
various
uses,
particularly
housing,
have
been
converted
into
open
space
areas
that
were
planned
for
industrial
have
become
residential
areas.
Proposal
residential
have
become
commercial,
so
there
there's
this
constantly
changing
landscape
with
regard
to
land
use
maps
and
and
what
they
what
they,
what
they
plan
for
the
future.
I
We're
also
going
to
be
talking
about
certain
areas
this
evening,
but
it's
important
to
recognize
that
throughout
the
city,
the
changes
that
we're
talking
about
are
applicable
to
only
about
three
percent
of
the
city's
land
area.
The
vast
majority
of
the
city
is
not
proposed
to
change
we're
talking
about
a
very
limited
area
which
which
we
we'll
discuss
in
more
detail
in
a
few
minutes.
But
I
wanted
to
be
sure
that
that
point
is
is,
is
included
up
front.
I
Again,
we
will
talk
about
that
in
more
detail
in
a
few
minutes,
but
this
didn't
come
out
of
a
staff
member's
office.
It,
you
know,
is
not
just
a
reflection
of
what
we
have
today.
It
was
a
thoughtful
review
of
our
land
use
map
based
on
a
lot
of
public
input.
Part
of
that
input
were
draft
guiding
principles
that
were
adopted
or
discussed.
I
should
say
early
on
and
there's
just
a
few
of
them
listed
here
on
the
right
side
for
your
year
review.
I
I
We
have
finished
the
the
process
of
listening
and
visioning
to
come
up
with
the
map
that
you
have
tonight
for
further
public
comment
and
review.
So
we
are
now
going
into
the
third
step,
which
is
policy,
development
and
plan
alternatives.
I
This
will
then
generate
the
the
the
draft
general
plan
in
all
of
its
facets
and
then
later
for
for
review
and
adoption
next
year.
I
In
that
context,
what
are
the
next
practical
steps,
as
I
mentioned
after
the
land
use
map,
is,
is
identified
as
as
the
preferred
map
going
forward,
we
will
endeavor
to
evaluate
a
whole
variety
of
many
of
which
are
listed
here,
things
not
only
housing,
but
safety,
open
space,
noise,
environmental
justice,
circulation,
arts
and
culture,
economic
development.
All
of
those
are
going
to
be
evaluated.
I
I
Once
the
general
plan
map
and
and
elements
and
plan
are
adopted
next
year,
then
the
following
step
is
the
third
circle
in
this
diagram
and
that
is
to
amend
our
design
policies.
So
then,
we
will
start
a
program
of
amending
the
city's
zoning
codes,
specific
plans,
design
resolutions
to
be
consistent
with
the
general
plan.
So
tonight
we're
talking
about
a
preferred
land
use
map.
It
is
not
the
final
land
use
map
we've
come
a
long
way,
but
we
have
a
long
way
to
go
still.
I
I've
been
here
several
decades
and
I
feel
so
fortunate
to
to
to
be
a
part
of
this
great
community,
but
I
do
think
that
we
still
have
challenges,
as
every
community
does
an
evolving
economy.
We
have
high
housing
prices,
whether
it's
for
sale
or
rental
prices,
and
we
constantly
have
environmental
sustainability
challenges
going
forward.
So,
ultimately,
the
purpose
of
this
general
plan
update
in
this
land
use
map
is
to
preserve
the
quality
of
life
that
we
enjoy
today
and
to
try
to
make
it
even
better
going
forward.
I
So
with
those
initial
comments,
we
are
now
I'm
now
going
to
pass
this
on
to
matt
ramey.
Who
is
our
our
consultant
on
this
project
and
he
is
leading
a
whole
team
of
experts,
and
so
hopefully
we
can
get
get
matt
matt
in
on
on
the
conversation.
J
Thank
you
mark
good
evening,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council.
Can
you
all
hear
me
at
this
point.
J
Okay,
great
and
mark,
am
I
gonna
use
my
screen
or
yours.
J
Okay,
this
shift
back
to
part
in
person
is,
you
know,
causing
some
challenges
here.
Okay,
can
you
all
see
my
screen
now.
B
J
Great,
thank
you,
okay,
good
evening.
Everyone,
it's
really
a
pleasure
to
be
here,
as
mark
mentioned.
What
we
have
here
tonight
is
really
the
culmination
of
a
year
and
a
half
of
really
hard
work
by
my
staff
and
in
particular,
the
community
to
get
us
where
we
are
today,
I'm
going
to
spend
a
few
minutes
and
talk
to
you
first
about
the
story
behind
the
preferred
land
use
map
and
then
and
then
go
into
the
specifics
of
the
proposed
land
use
map.
J
J
We
then
asked
if
there's
going
to
be
change
in
the
city.
Where
should
that
happen?
Because
we
know
that
the
community,
through
the
asking
about
the
strengths
and
the
values,
really
loves
the
city,
the
way
it
is
and
and
loves
the
quality
of
life
currently
in
the
city
and
that
process
resulted
in
the
areas
of
change
map,
which
is
really
the
areas
of
the
city
where
we
can
look
at
if
there
is
going
to
be
any
change
to
address
needs.
J
J
J
As
mark
mentioned,
at
the
beginning
of
the
process,
we
developed
division
and
guiding
principles,
and
these
provide
a
framework
to
guide
future
decision
making.
They
include
community
values
and
key
strategies
derived
from
engagement
and
they
identify
key
strategies
for
the
future
of
the
city
that
include
creating
a
diversity
of
housing,
types
and
affordability
levels,
maintaining
established
neighborhoods,
revitalizing,
underutilized
land,
prioritizing
economic
development
and
lifestyle
opportunities
and
expanding
the
number
and
diversity
of
jobs.
J
Once,
as
I
mentioned,
once
we
did,
we
created
the
the
vision
and
guiding
principles.
We
asked
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
or
gpac
in
february
of
2020,
where
should
change
happen,
and
we
gave
the
gpac
and
the
members
of
the
public
who
were
in
attendance
a
series
of
stickers
to
put
on
a
map
to
ask
for
a
change
should
happen,
and
this
is
the
composite
map
produced
by
the
general
plan
advisory
committee.
J
The
the
yellow
is,
is
really
multi-family
and
mixed
use,
red
is
shopping
and
green
is
the
town
square
and
the
park,
and
so
what
we
see
is
that
the
majority
of
gpac
members
really
identified
the
area
on
either
side
of
the
101
corridor.
As
the
area
where,
if
there
is
going
to
be
any
change,
where
should
that
happen?
J
Based
on
that,
we
created
an
online
survey
to
ask:
where
should
development
go?
This
map
shows
mixed
use,
but
we
asked
about
townhomes
multi-family
mixed
use,
office
and
r
d,
entertainment
and
parks
and
open
space.
We
got
almost
500
survey
responses
and
this
is
the
map
that
shows
where
mixed
use
should
go
in
the
city.
J
Mixed
use
received
more
more
stickers,
virtual
stickers
than
any
other
use,
and
you
can
see
here
that
it's
identified
in
two
places
in
the
downtown
area
and
around
the
malls,
and
so
we
use
this
information
to
help
guide
what
we
were
where
growth
could
potentially
go
and
where
change
could
happen.
J
We
then
created
a
map
that
we
call
the
areas
of
change
map,
and
this
is
the
map
that
we
were
then
going
to
focus
the
conversation
on
where,
where
is
there
a
potential
for
change?
And
what
we
see
here
is
even
just
as
part
of
the
conversation,
the
majority
of
the
city
over
92
percent
is
what
was
classified
as
the
areas
of
stability
and
the
areas
of
potential
change.
J
Without
going
into
detail
the
alternatives
tested,
different
ideas,
alternative
one
was
was
higher
density,
mixed
use
in
nodes,
and
so
it
concentrated
the
development
in
nodes.
Alternative
two
was
more
even
spread
out
of
mixed
use
and
residential
uses
and
alternative.
Three
had
a
very
strong
focus
on
jobs,
but
also
in
order
to
focus
on
those
jobs
then
concentrated
mixed
use
in
a
few
areas,
in
this
case
along
the
moorpark
corridor.
J
We
then
spent
six
weeks
going-
and
this
was
in
between
february
and
march
of
this
year,
going
out
to
the
community
and
asking
their
ideas,
all
of
it,
culminating
into
in
a
survey
and
what
we
got
was
over
2100
responses
in
the
survey
and
a
strong
preference
for
alternative
one,
which
was
mixed
use
with
higher
density
nodes.
J
We
also
got
a
lot
of
feedback
on
other
topics
related
to
potential
development
in
the
city,
and
there
was
support
for
trans
transferring
residential
capacity
from
the
residential
neighborhoods
to
the
areas
of
change,
so
that
we
could
stay
within
the
measure
e
limits.
J
There
was
strong
support
for
increased
density
in
the
same
building
form,
so
increasing
the
potential
density
to
45
units,
an
acre
from
30
units,
an
acre
as
long
as
the
building
form
remains
the
same.
There
is
support
for
increasing
the
amount
of
mixed
use,
development
in
the
city
and
for
allowing
multi-family
residential
buildings,
not
just
mixed-use
buildings.
On
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
J
J
Based
on
the
alternatives
we
created,
the
team
created
a
preferred
land
use
map
that
was
then
presented
to
the
public,
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
and
the
planning
commission
and
the
preferred
land
use
map
version.
One
we're
seeing
version
two
this
evening.
The
preferred
land
use
map
does
a
number
of
things,
including
preserving
parks
and
open
spaces.
Maintaining
residential
neighborhoods
focusing
infield
development
on
a
limited
number
of
locations.
It
maintains
a
strong
job
focus
and
actually
expands
employment
opportunities.
J
We
then
took
the
preferred
land
use
map
to
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
to
seek
their
input
and
what
we
got
from
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
was
that
the
majority
of
members
felt
that
the
map
was
going
in
the
right
direction,
but
that
minor
modifications
were
needed.
There
was
support
for
the
overall
direction:
walkable
mixed-use
centers
growth
in
the
areas
of
change,
the
diversity
of
housing
and
redevelopment
of
the
larger
parcels.
J
J
These
included
village
centers
as
areas
of
change
with
direction
for
staff
to
determine
which
areas
should
be
mixed
use
and
which
should
remain
commercial
to
add
higher
density
to
the
oak
small,
to
remove
mixed
use
for
areas
unlikely
to
change
in
the
next
20
20
to
30
years,
such
as
the
promenade
at
westlake,
and
then
they
deferred
direction
to
the
city
council
for
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
corridor
and
the
orchard
property.
The
the
37
acre
property
in
rancho
canejo.
J
The
we
also
sent
out
a
survey
on
the
preferred
land
use
map.
This
survey
received
and
closed
last
week
and
we
received
over
2700
total
responses.
J
However,
65
to
68
of
respondents,
depending
on
the
question
skipped
most
of
the
questions.
The
only
question
that
received
the
majority
of
that
were
most
of
the
respondents
answered
was
question
two,
which
was
about
the
orchard
property
97
of
people
who
took
the
survey
answered
this
question
and
68
showed
support
for
mixed-use
development
across
the
entire
parcel,
with
approximately
25,
who
preferred
a
single
family,
residential
designation
across
the
entire
property.
So
it
was
almost
three
to
one
for
support
for
mixed
use.
Two
and
a
half
to
one
support
for
mixed-use
development.
J
The
majority
who
answered
were
opposed
to
other
aspects
of
the
preferred
map,
mostly
along
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
with
from
what
we
heard
afterwards
strong
opinions
about
having
the
area
that
is,
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
specific
plan
all
maintain
mixed
use
and
overall,
we
felt
like
there
was
no
clear
direction
from
the
results
except
for
question
two
because
of
the
large
number
of
people
who
skipped
most
of
the
questions.
J
J
Next,
with
a
snapshot,
stepping
back
of
the
community
engagement
that
occurred
throughout
the
process-
and
I
want
to
tip
my
hat
to
the
wonderful
staff
that
you
all
have
who
led
a
lot
of
these
engagement
activities
and
spent
you
know
hundreds
of
hours
out
in
the
community
and
talking
with
community
members
from
the
beginning
of
the
project.
We
did
our
best
to
try
and
blanket
the
community
make
sure,
as
many
people
knew
about
the
process
as
possible.
J
What
you
see
on
the
screen
here
is
a
summary
of
some
of
that
engagement
and
I
think
it's
worthwhile
to
to
take
stock
of
what
we've
done
to
date.
So
at
the
beginning
there
was
a
citywide
mailing
in
wastewater
and
water
bills
that
went
to
every
address
in
the
city,
38
000
addresses,
city
staff
met
and
corresponded
with
organizations
and
neighborhood
groups.
There
were
30-plus
articles
in
the
acorn
and
then
more
in
the
vc
star.
There
were
paid
ads
in
the
acorn
in
the
vc
store.
J
We
had
15
meetings
with
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
and
there
were
25
to
50
or
even
100
people
and
each
members
of
the
public.
At
each
of
these
meetings,
we've
had
three
public
workshops
that
had
up
to
250
people
at
them
and
two
community
forums.
We
had
pop-up
workshops,
11
of
them
and
over
a
thousand
people.
Individual
people
came
by
at
those
workshops.
J
J
There
was
a
citywide
statistical,
statistically
valid
survey
that
had
questions
about
the
general
plan,
and
then
there
was
a
social
media
campaign
with
hundreds
of
posts.
And
finally,
we
used
the
website
extensively
to
share
information
about
the
project,
and
this
was
quite
successful
where
there
were
53,
000,
page
views
and
over
17
000,
unique
viewers.
J
So,
needless
to
say,
a
lot
of
engagement
was
done
throughout
the
process,
and
one
thing
that
we
that
we
did
hear
throughout
is
that
almost
consistently
people
love
thousand
oaks
and
they
recognize
that
there
are
some
challenges
and
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
that
can
be
addressed
through
land
use
decisions.
J
Now
I'm
going
to
switch
to
talking
about
the
recommended
changes
to
the
preferred
land
use
map.
The
characteristics
of
the
proposed
land
use
map
are
that
they
maintain
the
character
of
the
residential
neighborhoods.
This
was
always
one
of
the
the
principles
from
the
very
beginning
of
the
process
is
that
the
community
loves
the
residential
neighborhoods
and
they
want
to
maintain
the
quality
of
the
neighborhoods.
J
J
The
proposed
land
use
map
focuses
changes
on
a
very
limited
area
of
the
city
that
comprise
less
than
three
percent
of
the
city's
land
area.
So
more
than
97
of
the
city
would
see
no
change
in
land
use
designation
over
the
horizon
of
the
general
plan.
J
It
incorporates
mixed-use
development
in
very
limited
areas
of
the
city.
It
provides
a
combination
of
mixed-use,
low
and
mixed-use
medium
designations
along
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
It
maintains
a
very
strong
job
focus
in
rancho,
canejo
and
the
west
lake
east
end
areas,
and
it
maintains
a
variety
of
opportunities
for
commercial
uses,
including
retail
office
and
hotels.
J
I'm
going
to
walk
through
the
different
areas
of
the
city
and
what,
with
the
feedback
that
we
received
on
each
area
and
then
the
proposed
direction
from
staff.
The
first
area
to
discuss
is
the
village
centers.
The
village
centers
came
up
as
an
idea.
Very
early
on
in
the
process
was
with
the
question
of
how
do
we
revitalize
older
shopping
centers
throughout
the
city
so
that
they
become
village,
centers
or
centers
of
community
for
the
residents
in
that
area?
J
So
we
initially
came
up
with
an
idea
of
having
a
mixed
use
so
adding
some
residential
to
those
areas
and
or
allowing
for
more
a
lot
more
walkable
format.
The
the
the
public.
When
we
asked
the
question
of
whether,
in
the
alternative
survey
about
whether
the
village
center
should
be
all
mixed,
use,
all
commercial
or
some
mixed
use.
J
J
J
The
recommendation
from
staff
and
in
the
preferred
alternative
is
to
designate
the
two
largest
largest
sites
for
mixed-use
low.
Those
are
arbalese
and
herbs
road
which
you
see
in
number
six
here
on
the
map
and
then
jans
road
and
moore
park.
Road,
which
you
see
in
number
four
the
rest
would
remain
as
commercial.
J
There
would
also
be.
The
recommendation
is
also
to
include
the
long-term
preservation
of
retail
through
additional
policies.
There
was
a
strong
feeling
that
that
retail
is
important
to
serve
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
that
we
don't
want
to
make
any
changes
to
the
general
plan
that
will
impact
the
retail
and
the
ability
of
neighborhoods
serving
retail
and
commercial
uses.
However,
there's
also
a
desire
in
those
areas
to
allow
for
some
residential
development.
J
There
should
be
additional
policies
in
the
general
plan,
and
these
are
recommendations
from
the
gpac
to
create
an
attractive
environment
for
meeting
commuting
and
gathering
to
enhance
walking
and
biking
from
adjacent
areas
and
to
connect
via
transit
to
other
activity
centers
in
the
westlake
and
east
end
area.
The
feedback
that
we
received
from
the
public
is
that
there
should
be
some
mixed
use
at
the
intersection
of
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
west
lake
boulevard.
J
The
planning
commission
and
the
gpac
had
pretty
similar
thoughts
on
what
to
do,
which
was
to
change
mixed-use
low,
the
mixed-use
low
areas
in
purple
marked
with
number
one
and
number
two
to
commercial
town
and
then
to
add
mixed
use
low
on
the
baxter
site.
J
And
so
that's
the
recommendation
from
from
staff
at
this
point,
which
is
to
maintain
the
majority
of
this
area
as
as
non-residential
to
designate
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
westlake
boulevard
intersection
as
commercial
town
to
add
mixed-use
low
onto
the
baxter
site,
which
you
see
here
in
this
on
the
purple
triangle
and
then
to
keep
mixed
use
low
at
the
kmart
site.
J
The
preferred
map
which
you
see
here
on
the
right
includes
a
combination
of
mixed
use
and
then
commercial
areas,
which
are
you
see,
circled
and
surrounded
by
that
surrounded
from
that
is
a
lot
of
residential
areas
which
are
in
the
yellow
and
the
orange.
The
blue
area
that
you
see
here
in
the
map
is
where
you
are,
or
some
of
you
are
today
at
the
civic
arts,
plaza,
the
public
from
the
survey
had
recommended
mixed
use
along
the
entirety
of
the
corridor.
J
We
asked
a
question
in
the
survey
about
the
in
the
downtown
area
about
what
the
density
of
mixed
use
should
be,
and
45
of
respondents
said
that
the
density
should
be
up
to
60
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
32
of
respondents
said
it
should
be
up
to
45
dwelling
units
per
acre,
so
there
was,
there
was
definite
support
for
increasing
the
density
of
development
in
the
downtown
area
and,
in
fact,
almost
half
set
up
to
60
12
units
per
acre.
J
We
also
asked
a
question
about
whether
there
should
be
standalone
residential
along
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
corridor,
and
74
percent
of
respondents
said
that
it
would
be
okay
to
have
have
multi-family
residential
buildings
along
thousand
oaks
boulevard
corridor.
J
The
g-pack
commented
on
the
preferred
alternative
and
they
recommended
that
mixed
use
should
be
allowed
in
all
specific
plan
areas.
The
areas
that
you
see
circled
here
are
areas
that
are
currently
in
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
specific
plan,
but
in
the
preferred
land
use
map,
the
city
staff
recommended
changing
these
to
commercial,
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
J
One
is
that
there
are
very
good
locations
for
commercial.
Two
is
because
there
are
existing
uses
in
those
areas
such
as
the
toyota
dealership.
That
we
didn't
expect
would
change
over
time
and
then
three.
There
are
some
very
small
parcels
that
we
don't
expect
that
there
would
even
be
the
potential
for
mixed
use
on
in
the
future,
and
so
that
is
why
staff
recommended
that
these
areas
remain
as
commercial.
J
The
planning
commission,
when
talking
about
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
corridor
and
whether
it
should
be
all
mixed
use
or
whether
it
should
be
staff's
recommendation
of
some
commercial
said
that
they
would
defer
to
the
city
council.
For
that
decision,
the
recommendation
from
staff
is
to
follow
the
preferred
land
use
map,
as
you
see
here,
which
is
a
combination
of
mixed-use
low,
which
is
in
the
lighter
purple,
mixed-use
medium,
which
is
in
the
darker
purple
and
then
commercial
neighborhood,
which
are
the
the
pink
areas
interspersed
and
along
thousand
oaks.
Boulevard
surrounding
these.
J
J
The
feedback
we
received
from
the
public
through
the
alternative
survey
was
strong
support
for
mixed-use
development
of
three
to
five
stories
at
the
oaks
and
folks
mall
in
jan's
marketplace
and
through
a
visual
preference
survey
where
we
showed
photographs
of
different
buildings.
70
plus
percent
of
respondents
responded
favorably
to
buildings
between
three
and
five
stories
that
were
either
all
residential
or
had
a
mixed
abuses.
J
There
was
strong
support
from
the
public
seventy
percent,
in
fact,
who
said
that
they
wanted
to
see
the
majority
of
the
moore
park
corridor
as
commercial
and
then
there
was
strong
support
for
mixed-use
high
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
broadway,
and
this
came
about
through
the
preference
for
alternative
one
which
had
mixed
use
high,
as
well
as
images
through
a
visual
preference
survey
that
showed
buildings
that
essentially
corresponded
with
mixed
use.
High.
J
The
planning
commission
recommended
to
increase
the
oak
small
and
jans
marketplace,
which
you
see
here
in
one
and
two
on
the
map
to
mixed-use
medium
for
the
entirety
of
the
sites
and
then,
as
well
as
the
area
which
is
kind
of
south
in
the
red
here
adjacent
to
the
101
freeway
of
commercial
region.
They
recommended
that
that
area
become
the
battery
become
mixed
use
as
well.
There
was
also
the
recommendation
and
approval
to
redesignate
the
moore
park
corridor
up
to
wilbur
road
as
mixed
use,
low.
J
The
recommendation
from
staff
is
that
that
the
oaks
oaks,
mall
and
jan's
marketplace
should
be
mixed
use
low,
and
you
see
those
in
area
marked
with
area
one
here,
however,
that
would
be
a
75
foot
height
limit,
so
be
30
dwelling
units
per
acre,
but
with
some
flexibility
to
allow
up
to
75
feet,
which
is
what
is
currently
allowed
today
in
zoning,
there
should
be
a
2.0
far
for
commercial
uses
and
a
1.0
far
for
the
non-residential
portion
of
mixed
use,
staff
is
recommending
to
change
the
area
which
we
see
marked
here
as
number
two
from
commercial
regional
to
mixed
use.
J
The
staff
is
also
recommending
to
maintain
the
proposed
designations
on
the
preferred
land
use
map
for
thousand
oaks
boulevard
for
the
rancho
canejo
area,
we're
going
to
divide
the
feedback
into
the
area
north
of
101
in
the
area
south
of
through
the
survey
we
heard
from
the
public
that
there
was
general
support
for
mixed
use
in
the
rancho
canejo
area.
In
fact,
73
of
respondents
supported
mixed
use.
There
was
also
support
for
a
mix
of
higher
and
lower
intensity.
J
Industrial
and
job
producing
uses
and
70
of
people
said
that
there
should
be
a
mix.
There
is
also
what
we
know
from
conversations
with
businesses
in
the
area.
Is
that
there's
really
a
strong
demand
for
increasing
the
use
of
older
industrial
buildings,
and
there
was
also
a
preference
to
integrate
mixed
use
with
the
industrial
in
order
to
have
some
amount
of
residential
on
the
north
side
of
the
freeway.
J
The
general
plan
advisory
committee
supported
the
approach
to
this
area
and
supported
having
mixed
use
in
this
area,
and
the
planning
commission
made
one
recommended
change.
They
generally
supported
overall
the
direction
that
was
proposed
here,
but
made
one
recommendation
to
redesignate
the
property
that
you
see
here
on
in
number
one
as
industrial.
J
Staff's
recommendation
for
the
rancho
conejo
area
north
of
101
is,
as
recommended
by
the
planning
commission,
which
essentially
maintains
a
very
strong
industrial
and
employment
base.
It
introduces
mixed
use
along
the
101
freeway
on
the
periphery
of
the
employment
centers,
so
as
not
to
impact
residential
directly
in
the
employment
centers,
but
to
allow
for
residential
and
commercial
and
retail
adjacent
to
that
area,
and
then
there's
a
strong
maintenance
of
regional
commercial
uses,
which
you
see
here
in
the
red
for
the
area
south
of
101.
J
J
The
planning
commission
actually
going
to
start
with
the
general
plan
advisory
committee,
since
that
was
first,
the
the
preferred
alternative.
Preliminary
preferred
alternative
from
staff
created
a
split
designation
for
the
orchard
property
and
that
area
you
see
here
in
the
map,
which
is
part
mixed
use
in
part,
residential,
the
and
then
the
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
for
the
border
property
had
a
majority
of
support
for
mixed
use
and
flexibility.
J
J
However,
they
did
have
comments
on
the
other
areas
south
of
101,
including
to
change
the
land
use
designation
in
the
area
that
you
see
marked
number
two
on
the
map
to
neighborhood
low
medium
and
to
reduce
the
commercial
regional
areas
south
of
the
101
freeway
that
you
see
highlighted
in
in
the
in
the
the
red
areas
highlighted
with
the
number
three
to
commercial
town
from
commercial,
regional.
J
J
However,
to
include
policies
in
the
general
plan
that
has
a
buffering
of
with
open
space
and
a
transition
from
the
existing
residential
neighborhoods
and
to
require
a
significant
amount
of
open
space
in
the
area
for
the
rest
of
the
area
south
of
the
101
freeway.
It
was
to
implement
the
planning
commission's
recommendation
of
the
area,
the
parcel,
the
residential
parcel
to
residential
low
medium
and
then
to
change
the
commercial
to
commercial
town
on
the
areas
south
of
the
101
freeway.
J
Here
for
the
remainder
of
the
city,
I
focused
almost
entirely
on
what
was
originally
identified
as
eight
percent
of
the
city,
but
for
the
remainder
of
the
city,
there
was
strong
support
from
the
community
to
allow
for
the
transfer
of
excess
residential
capacity
in
areas
that
have
had
already
been
built
and
have
excess
development
capacity
from
the
neighborhoods
into
the
corridors.
J
The
general
plan
advisory
committee
also
had
support
for
transferring
capacity
from
the
residential
neighborhoods,
and
the
planning
commission
generally
supported
this
concept,
but
was
concerned,
and
it
wanted
to
know
the
very
specific
designations
in
the
residential
areas
prior
to
making
a
decision
on
the
overall
land
use.
J
Now
staff's
recommendation
is
to
keep
what
is
in
the
proposed
land
use
map,
but
with
some
minor
changes
which
include
additional
cleanup
of
split
parcels
to
identify
and
make
sure
that
the
that
the
public
uses
are
indeed
public
and
that
the
parks
are
in
the
parks,
so
just
some
cleanup
activities
and
then
a
note
that
the
unincorporated
areas
in
the
sphere
of
influence
will
be
designated
later,
based
on
existing
city
designations
in
the
county's
area
plan.
J
Overall,
the
preferred
land
use
map
that
is
presented
to
the
city
council
has
the
following
land
use
mix,
so
82
percent
of
the
preferred
land
use
map
is
made
up
of
neighborhood
rural
neighborhood,
very
low
neighborhood,
low,
open
space
parks,
natural
areas
and
golf
courses.
You
can
see
that
here
on
the
pie
chart
in
fact,
48
of
the
city
is
parks,
open
spaces
and
golf
courses
and
34
is
what
we're
classifying
as
single
family
residential,
which
is
neighborhood
rural
neighborhood,
very
low
and
neighborhood
low.
J
Three
percent
is
institutional,
three
percent
is
industrial,
two
percent
is
other,
which
is
including
things
like
like
infrastructure,
water
facilities,
two
percent
is
commercial
and
then
barely
over
two
percent.
Two
point:
three
percent
is
a
mixed
use,
low
or
mixed
use
medium
and,
in
fact,
mixed
use
medium,
which
allows
buildings
up
to
45
dwelling
units
per
acre
only
accounts
for
0.3
of
the
entire
city
area.
J
We
also
asked
the
question
of
of
where
how
much
change
is
really
happening
and
where
is
mixed
use
being
added
to
the
city,
and
so
this
map
actually
circles
the
areas
on
the
map
where
we
are
adding
mixed
use,
where
it
is
currently
not
allowed
today
and
we're
assuming
that
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
corridor,
the
specific
plan
area
allows
mixed
use,
even
if
you
can't
build
mixed
use
in
the
entire
area,
but
it
certainly
allows
it,
and
so
what
you
see
here
on
the
map
is
actually
a
very
limited
number
of
areas
that
are
actually
having
land
use
change
to
allow
for
mixed
use
that
don't
allow
it
today.
J
J
The
the
lakes
parking
lot
currently
does
not
allow
mixed
use
and
we're
proposing
that
it
does
allow
mixed
use.
Then
you
have
essentially
the
two
malls
and
the
mall
area,
the
the
oak,
small
and
jan's
marketplace
and
then
more
park
road
and
then
finally,
the
mixed
use,
both
north
and
south,
of
the
101
freeway
in
rancho
canejo
and
besides,
that,
the
rest
of
the
map,
essentially
the
uses,
are,
are
the
same
as
what
is
in
currently
allowed
in
the
existing
general
plan.
J
Overall,
the
I
just
like
to
highlight
some
of
the
benefits
of
the
proposed
changes
they
allow
the
preferred
land
use
map
allows
for
a
limited
change
in
the
city
for
limited
change,
while
also
preserving
the
overall
character
of
the
community,
and
this
is
something
that
we
heard
overall
throughout
the
process,
which
is
preserve
the
character
but
allow
for
some
limited
change,
and
we
believe
by
and
large
that
the
preferred
land
use
map
does
this.
J
The
preferred
land
use
map
supports
a
growth
of
businesses
and
employee
retention,
which
is
important
to
the
long-term
long-term
fiscal
health
of
the
city.
It
provides
a
broader
range
of
housing
options,
and
this
is
something
that
we
heard
over
and
over
again
throughout
the
process
that
people
feel
like
they
want
more
housing
options
in
the
city.
J
It
provides
additional
gathering
spaces
additional
mixed-use
areas
where
people
can
meet
and
gather
it,
provides
flexibility
to
the
property
owners,
particularly
of
the
larger
parcels.
It
promotes
sustainability,
compact
development
and
efficient
use
of
the
land
by
focusing
development
in
a
smaller,
smaller
area
of
the
city,
it
actually
can
improve
walkability
and
transit
service
and
reduce
driving.
J
It
preserves
open
space
and
it
preserves
the
the
character
of
the
existing
residential
neighborhoods.
J
In
conclusion,
I
want
to
leave
you
with
a
final
thought,
which
is
what
we
get
what
I
what
I
got
out
of
all
of
the
engagement,
and
that
is
that
there's
really
strong
agreement
from
the
community
that
the
community
really
values
the
quality
of
life
in
thousand
oaks
residents
and
businesses
alike,
value
the
open
spaces,
the
schools,
the
ease
of
mobility,
the
views
of
the
mountains,
hiking
quiet,
neighborhoods
parks
and
public
services.
J
It's
not
about
changing
the
city,
it's
actually
about
preserving
what
is
great
about
the
city,
and
that
is
to
make
thousand
oaks
even
better
than
it
is
today,
and
this
is
done
by
providing
a
diversity
of
housing
so
that
the
people
who
work
here
and
grow
up
here
can
also
live
here
by
supporting
job
growth
and
job
retention
in
the
city
by
providing
a
high
quality
of
public
services,
because
new
development
is
needed
in
order
to
bring
in
tax
revenues
in
order
to
pay
for
the
services
that
people
expect
in
the
city
to
be
able
to
attract
young
families
to
move
in
and
to
ensure
that
that
the
next
generation
and
generation
of
that
also
has
a
high
quality
of
life
that
existing
residents
have
come
to
know
and
expect,
and
with
that
I'll
end,
my
presentation
and
turn
it
back
over
to
you.
B
B
This
is
an
opportunity
for
my
colleagues
to
weigh
in
and
while
I
give
each
three
minutes,
you
can
use
that
time
to
make
a
statement
or
perhaps
ask
a
very
quick
question.
I
will
begin
with
our
mayor
pro
tem
bob
engler,
followed
by
council
member
al
adam,
then
ed
jones
and
finally
council
member
mcnamee.
G
Engler.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
First
off.
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
this
presentation
that
helps
to
clear
up
some
things.
I
believe,
but,
most
importantly
when
we
began
this
almost
two
years
ago.
I
know
several
of
us
on
the
diocese
said
that
we
wanted
a
robust
citizen
involvement
in
this
plan.
This
is
not
our
plan.
This
is
the
community's
plan
and
we
wanted
that
engagement
so
that
we
can
make
good
choices,
given
that
it
is
a
great
opportunity,
I
think,
for
us
to
visit
the
general
plan.
G
It
has
not
been
done
in
over
50
years,
we're
lucky
to
have
a
couple
of
people
in
in
the
audience
and
one
on
the
dyess
chuck
cohen,
ed
jones.
They
were
here
when
that
first
plan
was
developed
and
we
are
the
beneficiaries
of
their
fine
planning.
We've
benefited
from
that
plan
over
the
years.
G
A
few
years
ago
we
were
told
by
a
an
assembly
member
that
we
could
build
as
many
houses
as
we
wanted.
We've
got
15
000
acres,
that's
our
open
space
for
us
and
thousand
oaks.
That
is
what
makes
us
special
and
I
was
determined
to
protect
that
open
space
at
all
cost.
G
Many
of
you
know
that
I
did
work
for
the
city
of
redondo
beach,
redondo
beach
at
one
time
had
single-family
residence
neighborhoods
the
city
a
few
years
ago,
or
about
25
years
ago
now
decided
they
were
going
to
split
the
single-family
residence
neighborhoods.
What
that
did
is
concentrate
the
congestion
and
and
the
density
throughout
the
entire
city.
G
I
don't
know
what
the
future
will
bring,
so
we
have
to
have
a
plan
that
allows
us
some
flexibility.
The
plan
has
delivered
that
with
with
several
areas
of
mixed
use
and
mixed
use
simply
means
that
we
can
put
a
residential
with
commercial
commercial
in
a
in
a
residential,
an
industrial
area.
It
gives
us
that
flexibility
to
be
able
to
look
forward
and
be
able
to
react
to
different
changes
throughout
the
the
future.
So
I
think
that's
my
first
impression
on
the
plan.
G
I
have
a
lot
of
questions,
of
course,
and
we'll
be
asking
them
later.
K
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
It's
good
to
be
back
here
in
city
council
chambers
see
some
of
my
fellow
citizens
in
front
of
me,
hello.
Everyone
also.
I
will
say
that
the
fact
that
we
have
over
100
speakers
tonight
really
speaks
well
for
the
outreach
that
we've
done
on
this
whole
project
over
the
last
18
months.
That's
the
most
speakers.
I've
ever
had
in
front
of
me
and
it
could
be
a
record
in
the
history
of
the
city.
K
K
We
have,
as
you
saw
from
the
graph
we're
about
50
single-family
homes,
about
35,
open
space,
and
I
know
the
citizens
of
thousand
oaks,
as
well
as
myself,
really
value
that
balance
in
the
city
and
the
the
beauty
of
this
general
plan.
Update
that
we're
looking
at.
It
definitely
preserves
that
balance
that
we're
all
so
happy
to
be
a
part
of
it.
Strictly
limits
change
to
the
101
corridor,
which
is
by
survey
exactly
where
our
citizens
said.
K
They
wanted
to
see
change
and
to
put
things
in
further
perspective,
as
it's
been
stated,
we're
56
square
miles.
What
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
less
than
two
square
miles,
two
square
miles
that
will
could
possibly
be
changed
and
we
don't
even
know
that
I
mean,
as
as
we
all
know,
we
can't
predict
the
future,
but
there
could
be
a
potential
for
change
there
less
than
two
square
miles.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
plan
for
the
future
we're
in
a
post-covet
economy.
Things
have
changed
here
in
thousand
oaks
radically.
Since
1970.
K
I
got
here
in
1977
and
the
changes
that
I've
seen
have
been
pretty
dramatic
and
we've
got
to
respond
to
that
to
be
a
successful
sustainable
city.
So
we
can
introduce
new
housing
variety.
We
can
respond
to
the
challenges
that
our
commercial
businesses
face,
whether
it's
the
whether
it's
the
oaks
mall
or
whether
it's
businesses
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
K
We
can
encourage
some
of
our
big
commercial
businesses
that
are
so
important
to
the
city,
like
the
biotech
hub
that
we're
that
we're
building
right
now
and
that's
becoming
so
successful.
We
can
do
all
that
and
we
can
still
preserve,
what's
most
valuable
to
all
of
us,
our
neighborhoods
our
parks
and
our
open
space.
We
can
have
it,
we
can
have
it
both
ways
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
getting
into
this
general
plan
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
and
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
and
participating
in
this
process.
F
I
didn't
realize
I'd
be
the
only
zoomer,
but
I
here
I
am
with
my
legal
pad
and
two
freshly
sharpened
pencils
and
I'm
looking
forward
very
much
to
the
opinions
of
the
100
people
or
more
that
are
going
to
express
opinions
tonight
and
that's,
of
course,
how
we
improve
by
working
with
the
community
and
by
listening
carefully
and
trying
to
implement
the
in
so
far
as
possible,
the
opinions
and
ideas
of
of
our
citizens.
That's
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
now
and
I'm
sure
it
will
continue
in
the
future.
F
If
someone
had
told
me
today,
instead
of
two
years
ago
that
we
were
going
to
be
updating
the
general
plan,
my
first
reaction
would
have
been.
Why
do
we
have
a
pretty
nice
place
right
now,
but
I'm
always
open
to
new
suggestions,
and
I
know
that
cities
change
and
grow
and
and
reflect
the
the
current
inhabitants,
because
that's
that
should
be
what
happens
that
we
should
reflect
our
citizens,
because
that's
what
a
democracy
is?
F
Our
planning
director,
whom
I'm
sorry
to
say,
has
recently
passed
bill
gatch,
who
was
a
wonderful
man
and
very
knowledgeable
he.
He
introduced
the
phrase.
I'd
never
heard
before
the
phrase
was
dominant
vista
and,
coincidentally,
my
wife
and
I
for
the
first
time
since
the
pandemic
ate
out
at
a
restaurant
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
Last
night
we
ate
outside
and
as
we
looked
around,
we
saw
the
dominant
history
and
it
was
lovely
hills.
It
was
still
light
by
the
way
it
was
around
six
o'clock.
F
We
saw
lovely
hills.
We
we
saw
like
a
forest
of
trees.
Wherever
we
looked-
and
you
know
that's
the
type
of
thing
that
if
I
could
use
that
praise
dominant
vest
again
that
I'd
like
to
preserve
as
we
go
forward
and
the
beauty,
the
ambience
the
character,
the
semi-rural
tone
that
we
all
have
come
to
love.
Thank
you
mister.
So
I'm
gonna.
Just
in
conclusion.
I'm
gonna.
Listen
to
everything
with
an
open
mind,
I
have
my
legal
pad
and
I'm
very
willing
and
able
to
hear
and
looking
forward
to
hear
the
community
opinions.
Thank
you.
L
Good
evening,
thank
you,
madam
mayor
appreciate
the
opportunity.
If
I
understand
the
process-
and
I
again
study
this
quite
heavily-
is
that
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
gpac-
was
a
group
of
anywhere
between
50
up
to
50
people
having
15
meetings,
I'm
not
clear
as
to
who
those
individuals
were
and
if
they
were
at
duplicate
meetings.
L
But
if
you
take
750
people
divide
by,
let's
say
130
000
people
and
most
of
those
are
kids,
so,
let's
say
by
65
000
people,
that's
representing
less
than
one
percent
of
the
population
here
that
created
the
direction
for
the
survey
survey.
Again,
I
ask
what
is
the
confidence
level
of
the
responses
reflect
those
opinions
of
the
people
of
thousand
oaks?
I've
done
sociological
studies
in
my
past,
and
one
of
the
things
you
want
to
look
for
in
a
randomized
study
is
that
confidence
level
reflects
what
the
people
actually
think.
L
Second,
is
that
was
this
randomized?
The
answer
is:
no,
it
wasn't
randomized.
There
is
no
confidence
level
here
that
it's
representing
the
opinions
of
the
people.
Did
you
randomize
it
and
check
for
bias
that
wasn't
done
either
in
the
survey?
Did
you
get
greater
than
50
response
rate?
The
answer
is
no.
In
fact,
if
you
look
at
the
response
rate
of
2700
people,
that's
divided
by
65
000
possible
respondents
we're
only
getting
41
percent.
L
Did
you
control
for
duplicate
answers
or
duplicate
people
responding
more
than
once?
The
answer
is
no.
Did
you
send
out
a
control
number
to
randomly
selected
people
who
have
not
been
biased
to
find
out
their
response
to
make
certain?
They
only
have
one
opportunity
to
answer
based
on
that
control
number.
The
answer
is
no.
That
wasn't
done.
L
Do
we
have
any
other
out
of
city
residents
responding
to
this,
and
the
answer
is
no.
We
have
no
control
over
that.
The
survey
was
difficult
for
a
lot
of
people
I
spoke
to
and
they
gave
up
going
through
that
survey.
They
did
not
want
to
go
through
two
two
and
a
half
hours
worth
of
responding,
and
then
we
go
to
the
focus
groups.
I
personally
do
not
want
a
10
year
old,
identifying
where
we're
going
to
do
any
building
here
in
the
near
future,
plus
the
people
coming
by
putting
post-its
on
the
board.
L
Were
they
randomized?
Do
they
truly
respect
the
people?
Are
they
the
only
ones
that
were
out
and
about
and
just
happened?
Stance
walked
by
and
actually
put
something
up
there
and
gave
their
input.
So
again,
you
question
the
validity
of
those
results
does
not
necessarily
reflect
the
community
views,
so
the
survey
to
me
is
is
bogus.
L
The
gpac
is
bogus.
The
focus
groups
are
bogus
because
of
those
statistical
data
collection
here
to
drive
in
sweeping
statements
such
as
strong
support
for
strong
agreement.
The
majority
said:
73
percent
of
the
population
feels
this.
The
answer
is
no,
it
does
not
represent
the
community
input,
because
this
was
not
done
statistically
accurate
way
of
doing
methodology
for
sociological
studies,
I've
done
them.
L
I've
got
them
published
in
peer-reviewed
journals,
and
if
you
this
was
submitted
for
peer
review
to
be
submitted
to
the
journals
in
the
field
of
city
planning,
it
would
be
kicked
out
on
the
first
brush.
L
So
I'm
questioning
those
conclusions
that
have
been
put
forth
like
wanting
limited
change,
support
for
growth,
broader
range
of
housing
options,
additional
gathering
places,
flexibility
of
owners,
sustainable
compact
development,
preserve
open
spaces,
preserve
the
character
of
our
residents.
You
can't
make
conclusions
on
less
than
50
of
non-randomized
people
that
only
are
one
percent
of
the
population.
It
does
not
work.
Dr
mcnamee,
thank
you
very
much
I'll
conclude
right
here
in
computer
science.
There's
a
term
referred
as
you
put
garbage
in
you
get
garbage
out.
L
B
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
we
need
to
maintain
decorum
in
this
forum.
I
urge
everyone
to
be
quiet,
respectful
as
we
need
to
move
on
through
this
very
full
night
everybody's
passionate
about
this
subject,
including
me,
and
certainly
it
is
a
long
overdue
that
we
take
another
very
good
look
at
our
general
plan.
B
B
What,
however,
needs
to
be
discussed
in
more
detail
and
will
be
discussed
in
more
detail
and
madam
clerk,
you
can
actually
start
the
clock
since
I
started
talking
with
my
three
minutes
that
we
need
to
see
how
this
change
will
occur
and
where
it
will
occur.
B
All
of
that,
but
we
don't
need
to
change
the
land,
use
designations
to
high
density
45
to
60
units
per
acre,
75
foot
tall
buildings.
I
don't
think
that
is
really
necessary,
although
I
will
say
that
we
do
have
75-foot
buildings
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
already,
and
it
all
depends
on
how
they're
built
and
how
they're
placed.
B
So.
I
urge
everybody
to
please
keep
an
open
mind
and
that
and
to
be
respectful
of
other
people's
opinions,
and
this
is
the
only
way
that
we
will
get
through
this.
We
will
not
make
everybody
happy
with
our
decision
next
week
that
I
can
assure
you,
but
there's
certainly
room
for
improvement
in
this
preferred
land
use
map
that
we
are
discussing
tonight.
B
I
have
many
questions
and
concerns
and
comments,
but
in
the
interest
of
time
I
will
now
go
to
public
speakers.
Madam
clerk,
do
you
need
to
announce
anything,
or
can
I
just
go
to
the
public
speakers
directly.
B
M
N
O
N
B
B
P
Video
council,
members,
building
height
and
density
up
zoning
changes
to
the
general
plan
began
in
the
san
fernando
valley
in
the
late
70s.
The
area
I
grew
up
in
in
the
san
fernando
valley
was
altered
into
a
concrete
jungle
by
upzoning
senate
bill.
330
is
being
twisted,
is
camouflaged
for
developers
to
rush
us
into
upzoning
the
proposals
to
overbuild
the
orchard
maurice
and
reno
newberry
park,
lots
and
other
remaining
parcels
of
open
space
with
medium
to
high
density
houses.
Shoe
horned
in
for
maximum
builder
profit
are
not
what
sb
330
orders.
P
B
Q
Okay,
thank
you.
My
name
is
karen
wilburn.
I
live
in
newberry
park.
I
originally
questioned
the
validity
of
the
first
survey
at
the
march
29th
planning
meeting
and
mr
newman
calling
the
phrase
shenanigans.
Mr
rainey
later
assured
us.
Nothing
was
found
to
suggest
foul
play.
Mr
parker
was
quoted
in
the
acorn
as
saying
attempt
for
us
to
question
or
invalidate
the
survey
was
an
affront
to
those
who
participated
in
the
process.
Q
The
may
13th
staff
report
still
supports
the
original
survey
results.
The
team
is
aware
of
three
organizations
encouraging
their
members
to
respond
in
a
particular
way,
and
I
don't
disagree
with
that.
I
believe
the
first
two
of
these
are
well-established
business
organizations
and
I'm
guessing.
The
third
is
canelo
valley,
residence
for
sensible
planning.
This
group
didn't
even
exist
at
the
time
of
the
survey,
so
we
had
no
involvement
in
swaying
the
original
responses.
Q
Now
the
latest
survey
comes
out
and
surprise
out
of
2700
total
responses
over
1800
people
voted
for
mixed
use
for
the
orchard
parcel
646
said
no.
At
the
same
time,
every
other
question
on
the
survey
was
not
answered
by
about
1800
people.
The
same
number,
who
said
they
supported
mixed
use
on
the
lot.
Q
Is
this
a
coincidence,
the
letters
in
the
supplemental
packets
were
20
to
1
against
development
of
this
slot,
with
the
exception
of
a
petition
from
mr
moradian
with
54
signatures,
many
of
whom
were
teo
boulevard
business
owners,
as
well
as
a
few
chamber
members?
Why?
Why
is
this
so
different
from
the
survey
results?
How
can
mr
raimi
or
mr
parker
still
stand
behind
the
survey?
It
not
raises
only
raises
questions
about
the
orchard
lot,
but
with
68,
not
answering
the
other
question
confuses
the
issue
in
the
other
areas
of
the
city.
It's
clear.
Q
A
R
Thank
you,
honorable
council
members,
I
grew
up
in
casa
canejo
and
I
am
a
resident
now.
I
know
what
the
streets
are
like
here.
What
the
traffic
that
there
currently
is.
R
I
can
speak
to
the
fact
that
developing
the
37
acre
parcel
at
orchard
would
radically
change
the
character
of
this
community,
and
I
can
also
assure
you
that
most
of
the
residents
here
are
not
in
favor
of
this
happening
should
there
be
a
connection
on
the
current
roads,
but
there
are
also
other
issues.
The
flood
hazard
as
well.
R
The
border
parcel
currently
functions
as
a
detention
basin
when
flow
in
the
arroyos
echo
the
channel
that
runs
right
by
our
community
and
through
it
overflows
during
severe
storms.
The
water
is
allowed
to
spill
onto
the
property,
thereby
providing
flood
protection
for
homes
in
our
community.
R
So
I'm
asking
council
to
please
consider
the
fact
that
what
is
the
appropriateness
of
responses
to
the
survey
from
members
outside
our
community
deciding
what
is
done
within
our
portion
of
the
community.
Would
you
want
members
of
flustic
village
deciding
what
is
done
in
your
area
of
thousand
oaks
or
if
you
live
in
newark
park?
B
Laura,
oh,
you
were
here
in
person,
hello,
but
you're,
not
speaking,
okay,
you're
here
for
moral
support.
I
guess
then,
all
right,
then
our
next
speaker
is
rob
mccoy
via
video
former
council
member
rob
mccoy.
Are
you
with
us?
B
C
C
I
would
just
ask
that
we
not
weaponize
government
to
take
away
someone's
private
property,
so
they
can
become
part
of
the
santa
monica
mountain
conservancy
that
the
same
abuse
by
government
has
happened
to
us
and
all
of
our
congregants
at
our
church,
and
this
is
just
unacceptable.
This
is
not
why
folks
have
been
elected,
I'm
whatever
is
to
be
built.
There
is
up
to
you
guys
in
that
capacity,
but
to
use
government
to
take
away
someone's
private
property
is
unacceptable.
C
I
I've
been
to
washington
dc
as
a
council
member
on
a
lobbyist
trip
and
spoke
with
the
army
corps
of
engineers.
It's
not
wetlands,
all
the
things
that
have
been
put
forward.
That's
just
not
the
case.
This
is
private
property
and
if
they
want
to
have
it
for
the
santa
monica
mountain
conservancy
that
they're
not
allowed
to
use
government
to
steal
someone's
property,
it's
unacceptable.
C
Thank
you
for
all
you.
Do
god
bless
you
guys
and
coming
to
you
live
from
florida,
so
it's
late
over
here!
Thank
you.
B
Excellent
well,
thank
you,
say
hi
to
michelle
all
right
next
speaker,
we
have
anai
quiroz
romero
via
audio
or
telephone
hello,.
E
Hello
good
afternoon,
members
of
the
city,
council
and
neighbors,
I
am
very
grateful
to
have
lived
in
the
beautiful
city
of
thousand
oaks
for
the
last
17
years.
E
E
E
B
S
Okay,
thank
you
thank
you
for
having
us
on
and
I,
while
I
give
full
respect
to
pastor
rob,
but
what
he's
talking
about
is
nonsense.
The
area
that
he's
talking
about
about
the
orchard
area
is
single
family
living
and
from
what
I
understand,
they're
trying
to
build
multi
homes,
multi
housing
back
here
and
there's
just
not
it's
not
safe,
it's
just
simply
not
safe.
S
So
I
would
ask
that
the
council
would
look
and
yeah
and
come
into
the
area
which
I'm
sure
they
have
already
but
come
with
a
good
heart
that
shows
that
they,
the
people
that
live
back
here,
are
people
that
are
concerned
about
the
safety
of
everything
that
goes
on
back
here.
It
is
the
flood
zone
whether
they
change
it
or
not.
S
That's
you
know
we'll
will
abide
by
whatever
they
want
to
do,
but
it
still
has
to
be
single
single-family
home
from
what
I
understand
with
all
the
other
projects
that
are
going
on
it's,
they
have
enough
housing
with
with
the
other
projects
that
they
don't
need,
this
area
to
be
a
multi
or
me
or
low
or
medium
density,
but
I'll
and
I'll
pass
the
rest
of
my
time
on.
B
Q
Creating
anchor
points
for
walking
cycling
and
public
transit
near
where
most
residents
already
live,
so
much
of
us
can
do
daily
errands
without
driving.
Reducing
traffic
and
miles
traveled,
lessening
climate
impacts
and
improving
quality
of
life
are
to
become
more
than
just
rhetorical.
Benefits
of
our
general
plan
update
pilot
projects
in
just
the
oats
and
jans
malls,
amgen
employment
hub
and
all
existing
neighborhood
commercial
centers
known
as
village
centers,
are
a
healthier,
safer,
smarter,
more
viable
path
than
an
artificial
filled
out
of
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
Thank.
B
B
A
B
D
Q
Q
Q
Q
We
need
a
change
that
only
the
orchard
site
can
bring.
I
say
this
because
of
its
size:
proximity
to
all
of
our
major
employers,
inclusion
of
public
transportation
and
the
options
it
will
offer
for
people
of
all
ages.
There
is
nowhere
else
in
our
city
that
fulfills
these
needs.
The
site
will
create
jobs.
It
will
increase
revenue
for
the
city,
help
solve
our
housing
crisis
and,
most
importantly,
serve
as
a
place
where
our
very
own
community,
community
and
residents
can
gather
and
enjoy.
Please
re-zone
the
site
for
mixed
use,
as
staff
is
also
recommending.
B
D
Hi
hi
good
evening,
my
name
is
dr
mobiseri.
I
live
in
thousand
oaks,
I'm
a
hospice
and
geriatric
physician.
I
do
several
house
calls
mainly
in
the
thousand
oaks
and
newberry
park
area.
You
know
the
the
constant
complaints
I
hear
from
most
of
my
patients,
they're
they're
stuck
in
their
homes.
They
need
to
downsize.
They
they
wanna
stay
in
the
community.
However,
they
have
no
place
to
go.
These
folks
want
options
which
are
not
being
provided
for
for
them.
D
D
Good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
benjamin.
I
live
in
los
angeles
county
and
I
strongly
support
the
recommendation
for
the
orchard
opportunity
site
for
mixed-use
zoning.
I
am
a
student
at
moorpark
community
college
and
I'm
unable
to
find
local
housing.
This
rezoning
would
help
me
and
my
peers
have
a
place
to
live
and
enjoy
locally
activation
of
the
portrait.
Property
would
create
jobs,
housing
parks,
revenue
for
the
community
and
keep
the
youth
local.
Thank
you.
E
E
The
parks
and
open
spaces
are
much
needed
in
our
community,
as
well
as
the
revenue
that
this
project
will
bring.
I
think
is
is
needed
here.
I
I
think
it's
also
great.
You
know
to
keep
our
workforce
local.
I
know,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
talk
about.
You
know
commuting
and
it's
it's
nice
to
have
clout
housing
close
to
work.
E
I
I
ask
that
you
know
you
guys
really
give
this
opportunity
to
the
site
and
please
support
the
mixed
use
permit
of
this
of
this
area.
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
asset
to
our
community.
B
M
Oaks
and
I'm
in
full
support
of
staff
recommendation
for
the
orchard
opportunity
site
for
mixed-use
zoning,
some
of
the
most
beautiful
projects
and
communities
are
located
in
flood
plains,
from
new
orleans
to
playa
vista
to
oxnard
and
even
newberry
park.
They
all
have
one
thing
in
common
they're
all
built
into
floodplains:
google,
apple,
amazon,
snapchat
facebook
and
countless
other
world
renowned
companies
have
their
campuses
and
floodplains
right
here
in
southern
california.
M
People
have
been
building
in
flood
plains
long
before
our
time
and
will
continue
to
far
far
into
the
future,
so
even
in
newberry
park,
if
you
couldn't
build
in
a
flood
plain,
how
is
everything
surrounding
orchard
site
built?
Everything
surrounded
surrounding
the
orchard
site
is
in
the
floodplain
without
any
problems
or
issues.
Our
flood
map
suggests
a
minor
amount
of
impact
in
the
in
the
best.
In
an
event
of
a
hundred
year,
flood
there
would
be
no
loss
of
life
for
property,
and
what
are
we
afraid
of?
M
B
A
B
With
the
public
speakers
who
are
actually
here
in
person,
you
are
the
very
first
resident
of
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
to
be
back
in
the
city
council
chambers.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
I
believe
some
of
you,
though,
may
have
left.
We
will
begin
with
paul
carbone,
followed
by
todd
smith
and
then
chris
bridges.
B
A
F
Okay
good
evening,
my
name
is
paul
carbone,
my
wife's
sons
and
myself
are
21
year
residents
of
newberry
park,
I'm
here
to
address
one
in
the
same
37-acre
land
parcel
currently
under
consideration
for
land
use
redesignation.
My
specific
concern
future
vehicle
traffic
egress.
To
summarize,
there
are
only
three
total
points
of
possible
egress.
F
Two
of
the
three
are
at
denise
street
and
else
drive
both
single
lane,
both
of
them
long
established
residential
areas,
a
majority
being
ventura
county
owned.
Both
terminate
into
wendy
drive
another
single
lane
road,
already
over
tax,
with
traffic
from
dos
vientos,
all
leading
to
single
lane
entrances
to
the
101
freeway,
not
designed
for
much
more
than
there
third
point
of
egress
a
vacant
lot
near
orchard
road
adjacent
to
a
long
established
retail
center
that
most
could
support
single
lane
traffic.
F
The
eight
thousand
square
foot
per
lot-
r1
zoning
currently
in
place,
does
not
have
to
be
modified
to
mix
used
at
this
time,
instead
defer
to
future
change
based
upon
case
by
case
submissions
that
actually
make
sense
once
land
use
designation
has
changed.
It
is
my
understanding
that
there
is
no
rollback
option
pursuant
to
california
state
law.
It
is
also
my
understanding
that
the
preferred
land
use
initiative
consists
of
400
percent,
above
and
beyond,
in
regards
to
the
increased
housing
capacity
minimums
established
by
the
state
of
california
and
fi
strike
that.
F
How
are
all
these
additional
vehicles
getting
in
and
out
of
this
potential
new
development
we
who
currently
live
in
that
area
are
very
concerned
and
finally,
if
you're
going
to
conduct
a
survey,
do
it
fairly
by
verifying
the
identity
and
address
verification
of
the
respondents,
not
a
free
for
all,
like
the
one.
I
did
for
my
phone
a
few
days
ago
that
my
cousins
in
italy
could
have
participated
with.
Thank
you.
B
D
B
Yes,
grab
that
wipe
and
then
you
can
just
wipe
down
the
microphone
and
please
keep
todd
if
you
could
keep
your
distance.
C
It's
that's
a
very
conservative
number
that
would
result
in
on
the
low
side,
5600
5760
added
vehicle
trips
onto
the
surrounding
streets
in
the
low
side
and
12
800
extra
car
trips
per
day
on
the
high
side,
all
going
down,
alice,
drive
and
denise
jamming
michael,
let
that
sink
in.
Please
that's
a
boondoggle,
the
ugly
math,
the
houses
that
sell
on
wendy
drive
because
of
traffic
concerns,
sell
for
an
average
of
50
000
less.
C
I
got
that
today
from
a
from
a
realtor
that
you
would
know
and
that
you
all
know
and
see
all
the
time
he's
sold
four
houses
on
wendy
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
C
Those
there
are
75
houses
that
that
are
adjacent
to
alice
and
denise,
not
even
counting
any
of
the
ten
of
the
other
areas
or
michael
those
75.
Those
75
homes
would
be
in
at
50
000,
each
that
totals
to
33
million
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
we
will
be
subsidizing
this
land
owner.
He,
as
he
laughs
all
the
way
to
the
bank
and
sticks
his
finger
in
the
eye
of
the
land
owners
who
have
been
vexing
him
for
so
many
years.
C
That
isn't
that
isn't
an
investment
that
any
of
us
is
has
available
to
us
in
the
real
world.
Just
an
oh
just
before
we
go
here.
Let's
not
forget
the
great
idea,
let's
bring
in
the
bar
scene,
on
the
property.
Thank.
C
B
Thank
you.
We
have
next
chris
bridges
followed
by
steve
callan
and
I'm
wondering
whether
we
will
be
able
to
have
everybody
wipe
down
the
microphone.
That
would
be
great.
It's
okay,
chris
is
doing
it
for
you,
it's
a
little
weird.
Let
me
turn
off
the
mic
here.
We.
A
E
O
E
O
E
O
O
O
I
implore
this
council
council
to
represent
the
majority
and
to
ask
yourselves
what
is
the
rush
we
are
going
to
satisfy
sacramento.
What
is
the
rush
to
change
our
general
plan?
Many
of
those
points
tonight
were
interesting
to
me,
but
what
is
interesting
to
me
most
is
the
congestion
that
we
will
face
in
this
valley.
O
B
Thank
you,
you're
welcome.
Thank
you.
The
next
speaker
is
steve.
Callan,
followed
by
glenn,
half
skilled
and
kimberly,
convey,
and
I'm
wondering
whether
it's
better,
if
you
do
keep
your
mask
on,
so
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
wiping
down
the
microphone,
because
that
is
taking
up
a
bit
of
time
and
it's
making
a
lot
of
noise.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
thank
you
so
much.
I'm
hi.
S
I
just
wanted
to
speak
generally
about
the
rancho
canary
kaneho
101
area.
I
live
on
denise
street.
My
property
is
kind
of
unique
in
that
the
orchard
property
is
on
two
sides
of
my
house,
I'm
right
at
the
end
of
mini
street,
and
I
we
talk
about
fit
and
what
what
what
fits
with
the
area
and
I
drive
home
every
night
down
alice
and
I
look.
I
look
at
there's
a
fence
there
and
then
it
goes
on
to
that
field,
and
so
I'm
going
through
these
in
my
head.
S
What
would
it
look
like
if
it
was
built
out
with
single
family
homes
like
it's
zoned,
and
you
would
see
the
street
and
sidewalks
and
you'd,
see
grass
and
you'd
see
homes
pinched
between
the
michael
road
development
and
then
fox
meadows?
Where
I
live,
and
then
I
think
about
okay:
let's
have
the
other
options
streets
you
have
sidewalks,
then
you
have
parking
and
cars
and
probably
three-story
condos
or
apartments,
pitched
between
michael
drive
and
fox
meadows,
and
it
just
to
me
my
opinion.
It
doesn't
fit.
S
Second
thing
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
also
work
in
the
area.
I
work
in
the
rancho
of
the
canelo
spectrum
area
and
in
end
of
2018.
I
was
there
when
the
hill
fire
started
and
I
watched
from
my
office
as
it
burned
through,
and
I
sat
in
the
traffic
for
two
and
a
half
hours
to
try
to
get
across
the
101
to
where
I
to
where
I
live,
and
it
was
a
nightmare
guys
it's.
I
would
caution
you
about
adding
density
to
that
area.
S
B
T
Okay
hope
it
doesn't
come
out
sounding
like
a
mumble
okay,
my
name
is
glenn
halfshold
and,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
bob
engler
for
taking
the
time
to
respond
to
my
emails
and
your
suggestions
really
helped.
I
appreciate
that
I've
had
to
throw
away
a
carefully
prepared
presentation
because
of
some
of
the
things
I
saw
the
first
one
being
that
the
meeting
that
I
attended
did
not
show
support
for
village
centers.
There
was
only
11
percent
support,
and
yet
somehow
that
resulted
in
it's
still
being
recommended,
for
instance,
at
los
arboles
and
herbs.
T
The
second
item
I
wanted
to
cover
is
that
it
said
that
the
jobs
are
a
key
focus,
but
if
you're
going
to
focus
on
jobs
in
this
community,
why
don't
you
just
start
with
a
simple
survey
of
businesses?
Send
it
to
them
open-ended?
T
E
E
I
commute
every
day
from
studio
city
to
newbury
park
and
what
drew
us
here
when
our
child
was
one
was
the
open
spaces,
the
amount
of
trees,
the
neighborhoods,
where
she
could
just
play
in
the
single
family
homes
and
every
even
now
I
was
just
driving
down
ventu
and
the
walgreens
area,
with
the
hamptons
in
the
trees
are
now
matured
and
starting
to
cover
that.
I,
like
the
fact
that
every
time
you
drive
around
the
city,
you
don't
see
buildings
you're
it's
covered
with
trees.
E
It
looks
beautiful.
I'm
grateful
every
day
that
I
drive
around.
I
can
see
the
hills
and
the
rolling
hills
tarantula
hill.
All
of
those.
I
don't
want
to
see
the
the
reason
I'm
here
is
because
the
survey
didn't
allow
me
to
strongly
agree
with
mixed
use
because
of
the
height.
E
E
I
think
we
need
to
keep
it
that
way
and
lower
the
heights.
The
mixed
use
is
good.
I
don't
agree
with
building
on
a
flood
plain
that
didn't
work
out
so
well
for
new
orleans
or
texas
or
anywhere
else.
You
build
along
a
flood
plain,
so
the
thing
is
the
mixed
use.
All
that
stuff
is
is
fine
as
long
as
we
keep
the
buildings
low
and
don't
build
on
environmental
ecosystems,.
H
Good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
city
council,
my
name
is
danielle
borgia.
I
am
a
thousand
oaks
resident
raising
my
three
young
daughters
in
this
community.
I
am
also
the
president,
ceo,
the
greater
kaneho
valley
chamber
of
commerce.
We
represent
over
800
businesses
in
the
kaneho
valley
and
they
employ
tens
of
thousands
of
our
local
residents,
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
our
executive
committee,
and
we
would
like
to
express
our
support
for
the
preferred
land
use
map.
That's
before
you
this
evening.
H
During
our
recent
economic
forecast,
which
many
of
you
attended,
dr
fenet
from
clu,
pinpointed
the
lack
of
new
homes
being
permitted
as
the
cause
of
our
county's
pre-pandemic
weakness.
He
also
highlighted
that,
based
on
the
revised
data
released
just
this
year
between
2007
and
2018,
ventura
county's
economy
shrank
by
8.6
billion
dollars.
H
B
Thank
you.
Next
we
have
tim
mcdougall
and
then
followed
by
former
mayor
chuck
cohen,
now
a
land
use
attorney.
I
need
to
remind
our
zoom
participants
and
attendees
that
we
have
not
forgotten
about
you.
We
are
just
now
switching
formats
to
our
in
chamber
audience
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
are
done
here
inside
the
chambers,
we
will
go
back
to
zoom
all
right,
so
tim
mcdougall
and
then
chuck
cohen.
P
P
It's
not
something
that
we're
doing
without
a
lot
of
effort
on
the
city
to
gather
relevant
information
and
it's
unfortunate
when
people
don't
want
to
take
the
survey,
and
I
think
you
would
find
over
history
a
lot
of
people
just
choose
not
to
participate
participate
because
they
expect
our
elected
officials
to
make
decisions
on
their
behalf,
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
us.
I
am
a
21-year
resident
of
newberry
park.
P
It
are
affected
because
they
live
right
on
that
area
and
I
understand
and
empathize
with
that,
but
we
have
to
think
of
the
whole
picture
and
our
whole
community
and
the
whole
area
and
what
that
might
bring
as
far
as
an
attractive
place,
something
that
we
could
be
very
proud
of
and
share
with
future
generations.
Thank
you
for
your
time
commitment.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
G
E
B
G
B
P
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
honorable,
council
members,
my
name
is
sean
moradian
thousand
oaks
native
and
lifelong
resident.
My
family
planted
its
roots
in
thousand
oats
in
the
1960s
way
before
the
city
was
even
incorporated.
This
is
the
only
home
we
know
care
for
and
love.
We've
been
part
of
so
much
of
the
history
and
progress
of
thousand
oaks.
Over
the
last
50
years,
my
entire
adult
life
has
been
committed
to
enhancing
and
beautifying
our
city
to
keep
it
desirable
for
families
and
young
residents,
like
myself
and
generations
to
come
to
enjoy.
P
We
owe
to
ourselves
and
the
next
generation
of
residents
to
provide
them
a
city
that
is
better
than
the
one
we
are
inheriting
thousand
oaks
is
nearly
built
out.
We
have
over
100
acres
of
land
left
in
the
entire
city
2017.
The
city
identified
those
parcels
known
as
the
opportunity
sites.
Staff
recommendation
is
to
rezone
those
sites
for
mixed
use,
especially
the
portrait
site
which
my
family
purchased
1978..
P
Their
endless
community
benefits
to
this
property.
My
letter
and
thousands
supporters
speaks
volumes
of
the
shared
belief
that
orchard
site
must
be
activated
to
meet
a
wide
range
of
city.
Council
goals
and
priorities,
a
mixed-use
designation,
does
not
allow
a
by-right
development,
but
mere
flexibility
that
will
enhance
the
entire
rancho
conejo
area,
while
planning
to
protect
sensitive
uses
nearby.
We
understand
the
neighbors
concerns
of
potential
flooding.
P
Should
we
develop
flood
mitigation
is
something
we
take
seriously
and
we
will
ensure
any
project
we
bring
forward,
will
not
only
maintain
the
existing
flood
storage
volume
but
rather
improve
it.
Ultimately,
we
understand
that
any
project
presented
will
meet
to
meet
state
city
and
federal
government
to
ensure
we
do
not
impact
our
neighbors.
In
addition
to
the
parking
study
and
traffic
mitigations
as
well,
the
mixed
use
development.
Our
designation
today
does
not
mean
we
build
tomorrow.
I
really
like
to
emphasize
this
to
everyone.
P
The
misused
land
designation
will
simply
provide
this
opportunity
to
flexible
good
planning
design
and
for
a
sustainable
project
in
the
future.
An
approved
mixer's
designation
will
allow
us
to
simply
start
the
conversation
with
the
city
and
the
community
at
large
to
meet
goals
and
priorities.
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
this
evening
and
I
urge
you
to
support
staff's
recommendation
from
philmix
usoning
on
the
portrait
site.
Thank
you.
B
H
Thank
you,
mayor
and
council
members
for
considering
the
most
serious
matter
before
you.
My
name
is
lori
dingman.
I
have
lived
in
newbury
park
for
50
years
for
the
last
23
years.
My
home
has
backed
the
borchard
fema
flood
zone
property.
The
proposed
change
from
very
low
density
residential
to
high
density
mixed
use
is
unbelievable
and
stunning.
H
There
is
absolutely
no
argument
that
substantiates
such
a
dangerous
and
drastic
change
of
use,
and
there
is
no
reason
to
rush
to
make
this
unwarranted
change
now,
since
the
city
is
only
required
to
build
2600
units
over
the
next
next
eight
years.
Your
own
planning,
commissioner
david
newman,
has
said
what
is
the
rush.
We
are
boldly
asking
you
to
slow
down
this
process
and
not
change
the
land
designation
on
the
orchard
property
at
this
time.
H
Because
of
the
state
mandate,
you
can
always
go
forward,
but
you
know
that
if
this
is
changed,
you
cannot
go
back
allowing
even
the
split
designation
that
was
recommended
by
someone.
The
planning
commission
would
be
tragic,
since
it
will
bring
high
density
to
our
already
full
residential
neighborhoods
and
streets.
We
as
the
property
owners
of
the
surrounding
neighborhoods,
respectfully
request
that
you
require
the
property
owner
to
bring
forward
a
site-specific
plan
with
environmental
impact
studies
for
the
city
to
consider
before
making
any
use
or
zoning
changes.
H
This
is
the
only
responsible
way
to
proceed
that
is
fair
to
all
mr
moradian's
mantra
of
not
receiving
equity
for
his
property
is
misplaced.
This
parcel
with
all
of
the
complicated
issues,
need
special
consideration
and
it
is
not
the
same
as
any
other
parcel
people
who
want
to
build
on
a
cliff
at
the
beach
need
much
more
planning
and
studies
for
safety
than
someone
who
wants
to
build
on
property
with
no
issue
issues.
H
Those
are
just
the
facts
and
if
we
are
considering
equity,
we
respectfully
remind
the
council
that
we
are
property
owners
as
well,
and
mr
moradian
does
not
have
more
rights
than
those
of
us
who
surround
his
property
with
the
city.
Consider
my
plan
to
tear
down
my
home
and
build
a
bar
hotel
or
four-story
apartment
building
in
my
neighborhood.
I
think
it's
pretty
safe
to
say
that
the
answer
would
be
no
we're
calling
on
each
of
you
to
stand
by
your
promise
to
retain
the
character
of
the
of
residential
neighborhoods.
H
T
D
Evening,
mayor
bill
de
la
pena
and
fellow
city
council
members,
my
name
is
john
stuckley,
I'm
a
resident
of
los
angeles
and
the
development
lead
for
mace
search
the
owner
and
develop
owner
and
operator
of
the
oaks
mall.
I
want
to
thank
the
city,
council,
planning,
commission
city
staff,
the
gpac,
the
consultants
and
all
those
in
the
community
for
their
thoughtfulness
and
engagement
throughout
this
entire
general
plan
process.
D
We
appreciate
your
inclusiveness
in
this
process
and
we're
excited
to
work
with
the
city
and
community
as
this
moves
into
the
housing
element
update.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
community
for
their
feedback
and
survey
comments
specific
to
the
oaks
each
member
of
this
community
is
our
customer.
I
want
to
underline
that
fact.
D
We
believe
a
mixed-use
designation
for
the
oaks
is
critical
to
get
guaranteeing
the
oaks's
long-term
viability
while
adding
new
uses
that
all
members
of
the
community
can
enjoy.
Consequently,
we
fully
support
the
staff's
recommendation
to
designate
the
oaks
as
mixed
use
low,
while
allowing
us
to
keep
our
existing
height
limit.
D
We
believe
this
designation
gives
us
flexibility
to
accommodate
a
wider
variety
of
uses,
including
residential
hotel
and
office,
and
fairly
recognizes
the
height
limit
existing
at
the
mall.
Today,
if
staff's
recommendation
is
adopted,
masearch
is
ready
to
work
with
all
community
stakeholders
again
our
customers
to
develop
a
long-term
strategic
vision
for
the
oaks
that
will
ensure
the
mall's
important
role
in
this
community
for
decades
to
come.
Thank
you.
O
Hey
good
evening,
members
of
the
city,
council
and
neighbors,
this
is
my
first
time
and
I've
been
an
american
citizen
for
45
years
to
be
involved,
and
I
love
thousand
oaks.
We've
had
our
businesses
here
and
you
know
one
of
my
colleagues
called
us
that
hey
you
got
to
get
involved
and
before
I
knew
it,
I
all
two
of
my
businesses
had
the
letter
and
a
couple
of
properties.
We
bought
recently
had
a
letter.
O
So
what's
going
on
so
I
decided
to
come
tonight
and
the
first
thing
is:
I'm
really
amazed
at
your
dr
mcnamee.
Your
survey
results
because
I
also
have
a
statistics
degree
and
when
I
saw
that
survey
tonight
first
time,
I
thought
what
the
heck
I
mean.
How
can
you
have
68
of
the
respondents,
not
answer
the
survey?
Well,
that
should
be
thrown
out
the
window,
the
whole
survey,
because
that
means
it's
not
valid
for
any
any
any
study.
That
would
be
the
case
and
you've
got
98
saying
that
they
have
an
interest
in
well.
O
There's
some
there's
a
bias
there.
So
you
all
need
to
look
at
who
answered
that
survey
and
what
was
the
intent.
So
I'm
sorry,
statistically
it's
not
making
sense
to
me.
The
the
theme
here
you
know
is
that
we're
trying
to
get
one
property-
and
I
I
respect
you
for
whatever
you
want
to
do,
but
we
cannot
have
one
property,
be
the
sole
you
know
of
attention
for
resolving
our
thousand
oaks
property
problem.
O
You
know
we
need
to
disperse
it
across
the
community
and
let
everybody
benefit
and
get
into
the
survey
or
whatever
we
need
to
do.
We
need
to
be
equitable
to
the
entire
community.
I
at
the
end
of
the
day.
You
know
I
really
trust
the
council.
I've
been
in
this.
I
I
bought.
We
have
our
seven
loans,
we
bought
it.
You
know
with
that
faith
and
I
trust
all
of
you
guys
will
make
the
right
decision,
and
I-
and
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
that
I
could
say
something.
Thank.
D
D
Members
I'm
bill
oakes,
I
did
have
some
materials.
I
was
hoping
to
show
his
slides,
but
staff
has
volunteered
to
pass
them
around
I'm
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks
and
to
live
around
herbs
and
hillcrest
drive.
I've
reviewed
the
proposed
general
plan
updates
in
regards
to
the
zoning
changes
and
I
do
see
a
need
for
various
changes
to
assist
with
the
city's
future
needs.
However,
the
community
I
represent
believes
they
have
found
a
possible
discrepancy
or
oversight
that
they
would
like
clarification
on
so
document
page.
D
A
the
parcel
land
located
2080
east
hillcrest
drive
is
currently
zoned
for
low
density
residential.
The
proposed
update
shows
it
is
neighborhood
medium
high
document,
page
1,
the
larger
overview
of
the
area
with
arrow,
pointing
or
red
to
the
subject
parcel
proposed
zoning
shows
as
neighborhood
medium-high
orange
document.
Two
page
two
shows
a
closer
look
at
the
parcel
at
2080
east
hillcrest
drive
with
a
similar
sized
parcel
to
the
right
in
yellow,
which
is
mackenzie
court,
and
now
mckenzie
court
is
shown
here.
D
D
City
of
thousand
oaks
has
approved
a
property
for
development
at
28,
hillcrest
drive
and
it's
approved
nine
single-family
homes.
Again,
it's
almost
identical
to
mackenzie
court,
but
flipped
around
in
regards
to
the
entrance
of
the
homes
and
the
entrance
to
the
street.
So
the
question
the
community
is
looking
for
is
clarification
on.
If
this
is
a
discrepancy
or
needs
to
be
corrected
or
if
the
preferred
alternative
zoning
neighborhood
is
correct.
B
Eric
adams
followed
by
scott
horn
and
then
david
finney,
and
if
you
could
just
move
your
move
to
the
microphone,
when
I
call
your
name,
we
do
have
a
seat
in
the
front
for
the
next
speaker,
so
eric
adams,
scott
horn,
david.
B
Finney
is
eric
adams
here,
no
okay,
so
you're
scott
horn.
C
C
C
C
C
C
The
pdf
has
the
berchard
parcel
listed
as
site
57
on
the
housing
elements
list,
page
113,
mr
towns,
of
the
appendices
on
page
45
of
the
general
plan
pdf.
It
describes
the
board
site
as
follows:
site
57
is
36
acres,
plus
an
area
and
is
zoned
r1-8,
which
allows
for
family
lots
with
a
minimum
lot
size
of
8
000
square
feet.
However,
the
housing
capacity
was
reduced
from
a
theoretical
capacity
of
more
than
150
dwellings
to
20
dwellings,
because
most
of
the
sites
constrained
by
existing
wetlands
and
future
flood
control
improvements.
C
A
C
I'd
like
each
of
you
to
imagine
just
for
a
minute
that
you
live
on
the
north
side
of
michael
drive
and
one
evening
in
the
future.
You
step
out
into
your
backyard
and
your
privacy
is
shattered
by
the
sounds
and
the
stairs
of
an
overlooking
hotel's
rooftop
diners,
looking
down
at
you
or
worse,
a
hotel
guest
in
his
room
with
a
pair
of
binoculars,
a
nightmare,
definitely
preserving
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
Absolutely
not!
C
I've
lived
in
my
neighborhood
next
to
the
orchard
parcel
for
32
years,
and
when
you
drive
to
my
house,
you
pass
through
an
older
neighborhood.
You'd
only
know
it
by
looking
for
certain
things.
The
houses
are
a
little
bit
bigger,
but
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
was
never
changed
because
the
developer
followed
the
rules.
C
C
The
borchard
village,
I
don't
believe
the
three
to
one
results
of
the
survey
for
a
minute.
No
one,
I
know
no
one
wants
medium
to
high
density
homes,
a
hotel,
a
texas,
barbecue,
a
beer
garden,
a
country
western
saloon
retail
shops,
equestrian
center
and
more
a
lake.
Oh
and
I
forgot
trams,
because
there's
no
room
for
parking.
This
is
not
maintaining
the
quality.
C
When
my
neighbors
and
I
bought
our
homes,
we
knew
what
the
zoning
laws
were,
and
mr
moradian
knows
what
these
same
rules
are
when
he
bought.
What
he
wants
to
do
now
is
to
bully
you
into
changing
the
rules.
He
wants
you
to
make
it
legal
for
him
to
do
what
he
wants
to
do.
He
wants
you
to
move
the
goal
post
for
him,
so
he
can
do
something
he
can't
do
now.
C
H
D
D
A
couple
concerns
I
have
for
this
are
that
you
know
there's
there's
debate
over
whether
this
is
a
flood
plain
and
I
have
witnessed
it.
Flooding
off
of
alice
drive.
I've
witnessed
it
overflowing
from
the
canal
behind
alice
drive,
and
I've
also
witnessed
it
looking
down
off
the
mountain
being
completely
covered
in
water.
So
I
don't
think
there's
any
debate
there
about
this.
Being
a
flood
plain
based
on
observations,
more
directly,
impactful
and
tangible
to
me
is
the
living
on
alice
drive.
D
I
will
I
live
on
one
of
the
channels
into
the
borchard
development,
one
of
the
the
roads
that
will
become
a
thoroughfare
and
I'm
very
concerned
that
that
that
will
impact
my
property
value
and
my
quality
of
life.
So
I
think
it's
worth
taking
that
into
consideration
and
either
taking
a
different
course
and
a
different
use
for
the
land
or
designing
things
very
specifically
to
respect
the
integrity
of,
what's
there
already
and
the
equity
of
the
people
who
have
invested
in
the
community.
B
R
Thank
you,
mcfaris
newburgh
park
area
thousand
oaks
and
as
mayor
bill
delapena
and
members
of
the
council,
as
you
mentioned,
I'm
a
member
of
the
gpac
proud
member
of
there
you
have
heard
the
consensus
or
majority
opinion
from
the
gpac
as
part
of
the
recommendation.
I
do
serve
a
little
bit
as
the
minority
view
on
that,
and
I
want
to
provide
that
information
to
you
today
in
providing
your
recommendation
to
staff.
R
One
of
the
things
that
we
ask
we
got
asked
about
a
number
of
things
about
where
change
should
happen.
What
we
did
not
ask
to
get
asked
about
is
the
size
of
the
change
that
we
were
asked
to
do
and
one
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
provide
to
you.
I
and
five
other
former
planning
commissioners
who
have
been
part
of
that
decision-making
process,
as
well
as
you
have
about
upholding
our
general
plan
and
approving
developments
of
the
city.
R
Ask
that
you
provide
direction
to
staff
in
a
more
limited
number
of
the
transfer
of
units
to
about
a
5400
unit
capacity,
primarily
directed
at
change
in
the
oak
small
and
jans
marketplace,
to
help
provide
for
the
change
needed
in
the
changing
economics
of
large
retail
establishments
and
in
movie
theaters
as
streaming
services
have
changed,
as
well
as
in
the
rancho
canejo
area,
north
of
the
101,
to
help
support
the
biotech
sector
providing
higher
high
income
jobs
and
and
being
a
bolster
for
the
economy.
R
You
will
be
asked
to
only
allow
for
objective
standards
for
your
zoning
and
if
an
application
comes
in
and
meets
those
objective
standards,
you
will
have
very
little
to
be
able
to
do
to
manage
those.
Those
things
as
we
have
done
in
the
past,
give
us
the
opportunity
provide
the
right
level
of
change,
and
we
believe
that
that
will
be
the
best
interest
for
the
city.
Thank
you.
E
I
was
a
little
involved
with
the
with
the
1971
rulings
that
we
had,
and
the
height
was
really
very
important
and
that's
something
that
is
still
important
as
far
as
all
of
our
restrictions
that
we
have-
and
I
would
like
to
also
let
you
know
that
the
majority
of
my
friends
in
my
age
group
that
go
to
the
senior
center
at
the
global
center,
nobody
was
even
aware
that
they
had
a
choice
of
doing
a
survey.
They
had
no
communications
of
it.
E
I
would
really
like
to
know
why
are
we
in
such
a
hurry
to
do
this?
We
had
it
to
a
resident's
vote,
the
first
time.
Why
can't
it
go
to
a
residence
vote
this
time
so
that
people
are
aware
of
it?
The
majority
of
the
public
doesn't
even
know
about
this,
so
I
don't
know
why
we're
in
such
a
rush
to
do
it.
Everything
else
seems
to
be
on
hold
because
of
the
covet,
but
this
is
just
being
rammed
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
and
a
lot
of
other
people.
B
Thank
you.
The
next
speaker-
and
I
believe
this
is
our
last
speaker
in
this
chamber-
is
chris
hogstad.
Now
chris
hogstead,
followed
by
gary
hart
and
chris
you've
been
waiting
there
gary,
you
can
have
a
seat
in
in
behind
chris
or
there
yeah.
That's
fine.
D
Yes,
I'm
chris
hogstead.
I
live
in
thousand
oaks.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
discussion
tonight
about
the
level
of
public
engagement
and
support
through
the
survey
and
other
means
behind
the
plan
that
you're
looking
at
right
now.
I've
also
heard
a
lot
of
discussion
tonight
about
the
how
and
the
where
we're
going
to
make
changes
to
the
plan.
D
I've
also
heard
that
two
major
drivers
behind
the
plan
are
the
state
mandate,
which
is
about
2600
units
and
then
a
transfer
of
residential
unused
residential
units,
which
could
be
up
to
35
000
units
and
my
question
for
staff.
The
council
is
given
the
level
of
public
support
and
engagement.
There
supposedly
is.
Has
the
question
ever
been
asked
to
the
citizens
of
this
city?
D
B
D
D
B
P
Okay,
I'm
gary
hartung,
I'm
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks.
I
moved
here
about
16
months
ago,
and
one
of
the
facilities
that
I
would
frequently
use
is
the
community
pool
managed
by
the
fascist
kanejo
reckon
park
district
director,
jim
friedel.
P
P
Okay,
the
general
plan
needs
to
allocate
land
somewhere
in
newbury
park
in
the
central
thousand
oaks
area
and
over
in
the
west
lake
village,
for
a
large
pool,
probably
that
would
have
12
lanes
for
adult
life
swimming.
There
is
a
tremendous
need
for
it.
There
are
over
a
hundred
people
that
swim
every
week
over
at
that
tiny
pool
over
there,
and
a
lot
of
us
are
very
irritated
and
having
to
call
two
weeks
in
advance
and
sometime
even
then
being
told
that
there
are
no
times
for
us
to
swim.
B
B
F
B
B
O
Hi
I'm
jennifer
and
I'm
a
resident
of
newbury
park
for
40
years
until
last
week.
I
was
not
aware
that
anything
was
going
on
with
the
orchard
parcel.
I
live
in
the
neighborhood,
just
north
of
the
orchard
parcel.
I
had
some
awareness
because
they've
been
mowing
the
lawn
and
eventually
I
learned
that
there
was
going
to
be
development,
and
so
I
got
myself
prepared
that
160
houses
were
going
in,
but
then
I
learned
that
it
wasn't
the
160
houses
it
was
going
to
be
more.
O
I
took
the
opportunity
to
go
and
look
at
the
shopping
centers
that
are
adjacent
to
the
parcel,
the
baskin
robbins,
the
library,
azars
and
smart
and
final,
and
I
counted
and
between
those
four
shopping
centers
that
are
a
quarter
mile
from
that
parcel.
There
are
18
empty
retail
and
restaurant
storefronts,
so
18
empty
restaurant
and
retail
store
fronts
within
a
quarter
mile
of
that
parcel.
So
if
we
need
additional
restaurant
and
retail,
let's
work
on
getting
those
revitalized
rather
than
building
additional
retail
and
and
restaurant
within
the
area.
O
So
prove
to
me
that
that
works
proved
to
me
by
making
the
lake
successful
proved
to
be
my
making
dos
bientos
successful.
In
general,
we
were
caught
unawares,
we've
been
taking
care
of
our
families,
we've
been
in
a
covered
pandemic.
We're
listening
now
give
us
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
you.
Let's
take
the
borchard
parcel
out
of
the
general
plan
and
let's
talk
about
it
separately.
There
is
no
rush
for
this.
You
have
plenty
of
time
to
talk
about
this
three
decades
of
city
council
has
said
no
to
developing
that
parcel.
S
Good
evening,
I
recognize
the
need
for
more
full,
affordable
housing
in
thousand
oaks
in
newberry
park,
but
somehow
the
idea
of
19
for
low
income
is
absolutely
absurd.
I
have
an
mba
and
worked
at
amgen
for
nine
years.
I
had
to
leave
after
becoming
disabled.
Subsequently,
I
had
to
sell
my
home
to
pay
medical
expenses.
S
S
In
addition,
the
couples
out
there
degree
or
not,
who
really
want
to
remain
in
the
area
if
you
are
intent
upon
building
affordable
housing.
I
recommend
you
do
these
things
survey
the
senior
and
those
below
the
ages
of
30
years
and
their
income
established
from
the
data
that
there
should
be
an
acceptable,
affordable,
monthly
rental
or
lease
cost
then,
and
only
then
require
the
proposed
contractors
to
build
them
out.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
to
this.
P
M
B
Actually,
we
have
an
interpreter
if
the
interpreter
could
be
put
on
hold
for
just
a
moment
until
kinsey
flame
speaks
and
madam
clerk,
could
you
please
reset
the
clock
for
kinsey
flame?
Thank
you.
B
M
Good
evening,
mayor
de
la
pena,
council
members,
city
staff
and
community
members,
my
name
is
kinsey
flame.
My
family
lives
here
in
newberry
park
and
my
husband
and
I
own
a
business
here.
Our
home
directly
backs
up
to
the
borchard
property.
We
are
the
only
one
of
three
homes
in
our
neighborhood.
The
property
line
goes
all
the
way
back
to
the
site.
The
fence
is,
I'm
here
tonight
to
encourage
council
members
to
change
this
project
of
land
to
mixed
use.
I
do
not
feel
changing
this
mixed
use
will
affect
our
open
space
at
all.
M
M
I
and
many
others
have
seen
the
developers
plans.
We
understand
that
that
his
plans
he
has
plans
to
mitigate
flooding
as
well
as
appropriately
disperse
traffic,
so
that
neighborhoods
are
not
heavily
affected.
There
is
no
talk
of
a
seven-story
building,
as
the
rumor
mill
has
been
spreading.
I
encourage
my
community
members
and
council
members
to
do
your
homework.
This
property
is
not
a
wetlands
and
immigrantly
owned
20
years
over
the
years.
I
ask
my
new
members
and
neighbors
to
think
about
where
you'll
have,
where
you'll
be
in
10
years.
M
Would
you
like
to
have
a
walkable
downtown
area
in
newberry
park?
I
sure
would,
wouldn't
it
be
nice
to
get
in
to
not
have
to
get
in
your
car
and
travel
outside
of
our
area
to
spend
your
money?
Don't
we
all
talk
about
shop?
Local,
changing
this
property
to
mixed
use
would
not
give
our
community
would
give
our
community
the
diverse
housing
it
so
desperately
needs.
It
would
increase
revenue
into
our
community
as
well
as
give
us
newberry
park
us
and
newberry
park
a
place
for
a
downtown
to
come
together
as
a
community.
M
I
asked
council
members
to
be
aware
of
supervisor
park's
actions.
Please
do
not
allow
her
to
use
her
political
influence
as
supervisor
to
impede
our
community
from
growing
generating
revenue
and
taking
steps
to
solve
our
housing
crisis.
Thank
you
for
listening.
I
also
have
one
more
mention
to
my
community
members.
Please
remember
that
is
not
the
city's
job.
To
hold
your
hand
to
be
an
informed
community
member.
It
is
your
job
to
stay
informed,
your
job
to
be
at
city
council
meetings
to
read
the
information
that
is
presented
to
you
city.
B
N
M
H
E
O
E
T
E
B
T
I
really
appreciate
the
task
in
front
of
you
to
put
together
this
plan.
This
plan
has
been
neglected
for
decades.
So
thank
you
for
tackling
this
now,
so
that
we
can
all
thrive
in
this
beautiful
city.
I
feel
you,
madam
mayor,
when
you
said
earlier
that
no
matter
what
you
all
do,
not
everyone
is
going
to
be
happy.
T
My
parents
moved
here
in
1973
and
my
mom
still
lives
in
the
house.
I
grew
up
in
I
moved
away
20
years
ago
to
los
angeles
and
have
now
moved
back
mostly
because
I
have
a
seven
and
a
two
year
old.
I
know
this
is
a
great
place
to
raise
kids,
and
the
second
reason
I
came
back
is
that
I'm
one
of
over
20
locals
who
invested
in
the
building
of
tragedy
hill
brewing
company,
I'm
the
ceo.
T
I
run
the
operations
for
the
business,
we
employ
85
local
residents,
and
this
is
all
thank
you
to
you
all
for
for
starting
this
plan
and
allowing
us
to
to
get
into
this
to
this
business
here.
Most
of
our
employees
are
millennials
and
we'd
love
to
see
a
plan
put
in
place
so
that
these
folks
can
buy
houses
here
and
raise
their
kids.
T
O
Hi,
my
name
is
monique
leone
and
I
live
in
a
thousand
oaks.
My
husband
and
I
moved
here
about
five
years
ago
and
since
then,
we've
been
able
to
start
a
business
in
the
new
downtown
development
area
and
we
love
this
community
and
it's
wonderful
and
we're
for
the
foresharp.
Excuse
me
new
development.
We
think
that
it
could
create
many
opportunities
for
other
businesses
and
jobs
for
the
community
and
we
hope
it
moves
forward
and
will
be
a
positive
thing
for
the
community
and
surrounding
areas.
N
Thank
you,
mayor
bill's,
phil
opinion.
Thank
you
for
running
a
well-run
meeting,
lots
of
public
speakers
and
not
an
easy
cast.
I
will
be
brief.
The
first
thing,
I'd
like
to
say,
is
that
village
centers
are
successful.
In
my
neighborhood
I
take
a
look
at
the
revitalized
shopping
center
at
the
corner
of
west
virginia
and
the
new
sidewalk
on
west
lake
boulevard,
and
it
has
really
changed
the
dynamics
of
our
neighborhood.
I
see
people
walking
back
and
forth
from
my
street
with
the
starbucks
that
they
bought
that's
a
quarter
mile
or
a
half
mile
away.
N
I
think
the
real
benefit
of
the
village
center
idea
is,
if
they're
scattered
throughout
the
city-
and
I
am
disappointed
that
the
recommendation
came
forward
to
build
only
two
of
these,
and
I
understand
that
the
reason
for
this
is
because
they
worry
about
losing
commercial
centers
in
neighborhoods.
However,
you
all
are
making
the
ruse.
You
should
make
a
different
land
use
plant
that
is
perhaps
mixed-used
neighborhood.
That
requires
a
certain
percentage
or
footprint
of
commercial.
If
that
is
the
concern
with
building
neighborhood
village
centers
throughout
the
city.
That
is
my
request
for
city
council.
E
Members,
my
name
is
liam:
I'm
a
resident
of
newbie
park,
I'm
in
the
full
support
of
staff
recommendation
for
the
bulkshot
opportunity
site
for
mixed
use,
earning
I'm
a
soccer
coach
in
the
canal
valley
and
the
biggest
concern
I
hear
from
young
families
is
the
lack
of
housing
and
things
to
do
in
our
city.
I
too
have
had
difficulty
finding
a
place
to
live
when
moving.
Here
myself.
Several
of
my
clients
are
moving
out
of
the
area
because
of
these
reasons,
I'm
afraid
if
it
continues
thousand
hours.
E
Q
Zimmerman
hi,
I'm
peggy
rosenberg
from
thousand
oaks
tonight
we
ask
our
city
council
members
to
stand
up
and
speak
up
for
what
is
right
and
best
for
thousand
oaks.
It's
time
for
our
present
mayor
to
uphold
her
campaign,
pledge
to
support
slow
growth
and
for
newly
elected
councilmen
to
honor
their
campaigns
that
were
based
on
supporting
the
priorities
of
the
voters.
They
wooed
with
assertions
that
they
would
look
out
for
the
best
interest
residents.
Q
Now,
let's
take
a
look
at
what
you
should
examine
as
appropriate
actions
that
we
can
support
and
hope
that
will
focus
on
look
at
the
empty
warehouses
along
hampshire,
road,
for
example.
Instead
of
the
zoning
and
use
changes,
consultants
that
are
pushing
us
toward
thousand
oaks
has
empty
buildings
to
consider
for
alternative
uses,
including
conversion
to
residential
use.
So
we
can
achieve
additional
dwellings
without
sacrificing
loss
of
present
density
levels.
Q
Let's
preserve
what
we
can,
while
looking
at
new
uses
of
existing
facilities
that
are
currently
dormant,
it's
time
to
be
creative,
compassionate
and
caring
about
lives
now
and
in
the
future.
We
must
do
so
in
a
manner
that
will
preserve
all
that
is
good
and
valuable
about
thousand
oaks.
If
we
don't
do
so
now,
we
won't
be
able
to
do
so
in
the
future
and
we
have
will
have
only
ourselves
to
blame.
Thank
you.
N
My
concern
is
that
thousand
oaks
designed
as
a
small,
open
space,
suburban
village
design
community,
was
voted
11th
in
the
most
safe
city
in
the
u.s
in
2021.
It
was
based
on
crime,
medium
income
and
poverty,
data,
high
school,
graduation
rates,
redlining
practices,
access
to
high
speed,
internet
city
budget
allocations
and
unemployment
rates.
These
criterias
need
to
be
addressed
specifically
when
changing
the
general
plan
to
a
core
high
density
development
plan,
which
was
not
meant
for
thousand
oaks,
because
if
these
issues
are
not
addressed,
we
irrevocably
are
changing
the
city
further.
N
I'm
concerned
that
the
preferred
land
use
map
proposed
changes
are
based
on
a
survey
in
which
questions
were
largely
left
unanswered.
What
is
70
of
the
public
in
number
when
the
survey
questions
were
largely
left
unanswered?
Are
these
three
people
that
are
of
this
opinion
for
people
more,
it
doesn't
say:
tiho
teo
has
a
127,
000
population,
five
percent
was
surveyed,
that's
only
three
percent
of
the
people
and
of
those
three
percent.
What
number
of
the
people
were?
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Your
time
is
up.
Next,
we
have
wendy
zimmerman,
followed
by
megan
jaleel
and
then
cameron.
M
Right
we,
starting
with
video
wendy,
zimmerman
newbury
park
city
of
thousand
oaks,
has
already
shown
its
intent
to
discriminate
against
the
residents
of
newbury
park
by
deceptively
naming
it
rancho
canejo
area
of
change
and
by
asking
survey
respondents
if
they
would
be
okay
with
to
zoning
most
of
the
new
housing
and
building
more
than
2
600
units
per
arena
requirements
to
save
the
rest
of
the
city
from
this
burden
in
newbury
park.
Of
course,
many
respondents
responded.
Yes,
save
me
put
those
new
people,
especially
those
affordable
people
on
the
west
end
where
I
sell
them.
M
If
ever
go
even
asking
this
question,
especially
with
no
counterparts
for
other
areas,
is
offensive
blatantly
discriminatory
and
inequitable.
Although
some
progress
has
been
made
in
alternative
four,
the
city's
intent
to
make
newbury
park
carry
the
biggest
load
and
absorb
the
largest
share
of
both
new
residents
and
business
development
remains
clear.
We
cannot
and
must
not
tolerate
this,
no
matter
how
loudly
the
profiteers
yell.
The
plan
directly
contradicts
cities.
Recent
declarations
that
it
wants
to
be
inclusive.
M
This
freeway-centric
high-density
plan
is
not
only
a
matter
of
economic
discrimination
but
racial
discrimination,
because,
if
affordable
housing
is
actually
built,
a
higher
percentage
of
the
new
lower
income
residents
will
be
people
of
color
to
confine
them
to
neighborhoods
along
the
101
freeway
in
newbury
park
and
near
the
malls.
Is
racism,
fair
housing,
mandates
that
the
city
distribute
change
and
growth
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
city,
putting
all.
M
Your
proposed
plan
will
make
this
much
worse.
Council
members,
you
must
actually
look
at
the
land
and
explore
the
actual
parcels
in
the
areas
of
changing
person.
Failure
to
do
so
is
negligence.
You
must
put
yourselves
in
the
shoes
of
neighbors
who
will
be
impacted
by
substantial
development
in
air
in
spheres
of
influence
and
thousands
of
extra
car
trips
that
will
roll
down
the
quiet
streets.
Thank
you.
Please
take
your.
Q
S
B
P
P
Go
ahead,
hi,
my
name
is
cameron
marzia
and
I'm
a
senior
at
newbury
park
high
school,
voicing
my
opinion
on
why
the
presented
plan
should
not
go
through.
I
live
in
the
thousands
area,
my
whole
life
and
I
attended
canal
elementary
school,
one
of
the
oldest
schools
in
the
district
and
part
of
that
school.
You
learn
a
lot
about
the
city,
but
what
especially
stood
out
to
me
was
the
school
fight
to
be
faculty
who
worked.
P
There
said
to
me
the
stories
of
growing
up
and
attending
the
same
schools,
their
kids
go
to
and
eating
the
same
restaurants
they
used
to
and
still
continue
to
do.
So
is
what
made
them
and
me
fall
in
love
with
a
somewhat
small
town,
shouted
by
the
bustling
san
fernando
valley.
As
someone
who
went
to
school
off
of
teal
boulevard
living
in
and
living
in,
the
neighborhood,
where
the
wetlands
of
the
101
is
my
backyard,
I
appreciate
the
culture
that
comes
with
moving
into
this
town.
P
Thousands
is
a
place
where,
if
you
walk
down
teal
boulevard,
you
can
enjoy
the
views
of
the
skies
and
mountains
surrounding
you.
The
classic
looks,
makes
it
feel.
Like
it
hasn't
changed,
since
your
parents
were
born
a
place
where,
if
you're
hungry,
for
breakfast,
you
go
to
a
great
meal
at
the
classics,
harold
house
of
omelets
or
for
lunch,
if
you're
a
mood
for
mexican
food,
you
can
stop
by
loot
based
attend
a
mexican
restaurant.
That
brings
you
back
60
years
in
history.
P
It
is
not
the
place
where
views
are
blocked
by
buildings,
that
house
hundreds
of
people
or
the
sounds
of
hundreds
more
cars,
gridlocking
teal's,
busiest
road,
we're
for
a
place
for
restaurants
to
jack
off
their
prices,
to
take
advantage
of
a
newly
gentrified
area.
It
is
a
place
where
we
hike
up
tarantula
hill
in
the
highest
building.
We
see
at
the
civic
star,
plaza
and
los
robles
hospital.
We
should
not
see
the
continuation
of
ventura
county
boulevard
20
miles
away
from
where
it
ends.
We
have
our
own
culture
here.
P
Why
should
we
adopt
it
from
other?
Even
though
there
is
a
crisis
where
we
need
space
and
there
is
a
solution,
there
are
alternatives
where
extreme
backlash
from
a
community
does
not
occur
a
community
that
is
willing
to
fight
those
knowledge
who
lived
here
longer
than
me.
That
knows
that
this
town
is
a
gem
where
two
hour
commute
to
their
job
is
worth
living
here.
Thus,
my
dad
did
driving
to
glendale
every
day.
P
We
also
strongly
feel
by
the
part
of
town
where
I
live,
where
most
people
who
live,
don't
remember
that
the
lot
behind
coals
being
something
for
high
density
empower
apartment,
but
where
they
watch
their
first
drive
a
movie
with
their
family
and
friends.
We
remember
the
biggest
event
occurring
in
the
wetlands.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
cameron.
I
think
he
said
senior
at
newberry
park
high
school.
I
know
we.
I've
received
two
emails
today
from
a
junior
and
a
senior
at
westlake
high
school
also
opposed
to
high
density.
All
right.
We
next
have
michelle
patrick,
followed
by
jackson,
piper
and
then
grace
hunter
again.
You
have
two
minutes.
M
M
How
will
this
ever
run
smoothly
when
it's
overwhelmed?
Now,
during
the
last
fires,
when
there
was
a
mass
evacuation,
the
fire
department,
the
fire
department,
was
stretched
so
thin
that
some
houses
burned
in
thousand
oaks,
thus
putting
people's
lives
in
potential
danger.
This
is
not
okay
and
you
want
to
build
more
houses
and
apartments
on
the
weekends.
Car
clubs
and
motorcycles
drag
race
down.
Westlake
boulevard
and
lind
road
people
are
constantly
violating
the
speed
limit
around
town.
Where
are
the
police,
and
you
want
to
add
more
vehicles
to
the
city
streets?
M
This
area
is
looking
more
and
more,
like
los
angeles,
with
traffic
issues,
increased
crime
and
homelessness.
Please
tell
me:
how
has
this
city
got
better
in
the
last
five
years?
We,
the
citizens
of
thousand
oaks,
are
asking
for
slow
growth
and
a
new
controlled
survey.
Thousand
oaks
boulevard
should
not
be
a
residential
boulevard,
but
a
place
with
thriving
bustling
businesses.
M
R
Good
evening
city,
council,
members
and
members
of
the
public,
I
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
all
the
effort
that
has
gone
into
this
process
over
the
past
two
years
and
I
am
fairly
happy
with
the
result
that
is
before
you
tonight.
However,
I
do
think
there
are
some
modifications
that
should
be
made
to
make
it
more
beneficial
to
the
community.
R
I'm
thrilled
that
two
village
centers
have
been
brought
back
into
the
plan.
However,
I
believe
there's
potential
for
more.
I
happen
to
notice
in
the
5
pm
supplemental
packet,
there's
an
email
from
cohen
land
use
law
representing
the
owner
of
the
el
pariso
center
in
dos
vientos,
expressing
interest
in
a
mixed-use
load
designation
to
help
make
that
another
village
center.
I
also
believe
village
centers
could
be
viable
at
hillcrest
and
ventu
and
moore
park
in
our
belace
near
cal,
lutheran
university.
R
Of
course,
these
commercial
areas
represent
a
very
small
amount
of
acreage
and
it
would
be
very
beneficial
to
allow
slightly
higher
density
of
what
is
called
missing
middle
housing
within
neighborhoods
adjacent
to
these
commercial
centers
that
out
to
walking
distance
of
about
a
quarter
mile
or
a
half
mile
from
these
centers
on
the
issue,
the
maraudian
property.
I
know
it's
a
controversial
topic,
but
really
I'm
sure
mr
moradian
knows
that
if
he
develops
the
property
as
envisioned
he's
going
to
need
to
mitigate
the
community's
concerns
and
prevent
flooding
prevent
traffic
from
being
an
issue.
R
R
The
oaks
and
dance
malls
make
great
sense
to
develop
at
higher
densities
for
mixed
use,
because
they
are
basically
the
core
of
the
city,
and
I
agree
with
what
marianne
fanzil
said:
that
there
should
be
a
specific
mixed-use
village
center
designation,
with
a
minimum
required
square
footage
for
retail
to
protect
retail
in
the
village
centers.
R
B
B
E
Good
evening,
thank
you
all
for
your
time
to
our
neighbors
in
newberry
park
in
casa,
canelo
good
evening.
Your
comments
and
anger
are
justified.
However,
misdirected
this
property
owner
city
councilor
nor
staff
are
to
blame
for
your
frustrations
and
concerns
regarding
the
orchard
site.
You've
been
led
down
a
primrose
path
by
supervisor,
linda
parks.
It
was
her
and
her
alone
to
blame
that
this
land
is
being
considered
for
rezoning
for
nearly
30
years,
she's
gone
out
of
her
way
to
deny
a
private
property
owner
any
use
of
their
property.
E
She
tried
to
steal
it,
keep
it
as
open
space
block
its
development
in
any
way
possible.
Her
actions
been
detrimental
to
our
community
for
decades.
Now
we
are
starting
to
see
the
real
effects
of
her
time
in
office.
Fortunately,
the
time
has
come
for
her
to
take
responsibility
for
this
change.
For
those
of
you
that
support
single
family
homes
had
linda
park's
been
more
reasonable.
E
Homes
would
have
been
built
and
this
site
would
not
be
considered
as
part
of
the
general
plan
update.
Extreme
actions
have
consequences.
Please
take
a
moment
to
thank
or
express
your
feelings
about
this
rezoning
to
her.
Please
support
the
rezoning
of
the
portrait
opportunity
site.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
good
evening.
E
Good
evening,
I'm
mayor
and
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
catherine
harbiston,
I'm
a
resident
of
simi
valley,
but
I'm
here
to
represent
takeda
a
company
located
in
thousand
oaks.
Takeda
is
in
support
of
the
land
use
map
as
one
of
the
largest
employers
in
the
thousand
oaks
area
representing
over
500
local
jobs.
E
E
That's
one
of
the
reasons
at
the
orchard
site
is
particularly
appealing.
It
provides
the
types
of
amenities
our
employees
are
looking
for
and
would
be
something
that
we
would
highlight
when
we're
talking
with
talent
who
aren't
from
the
area
and
we're
trying
to
attract
them
and
interest
them
in
relocating
to
thousand
oaks.
Thank
you
so
much
and
have
a
good
evening.
E
Gorbachev
good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
megan
and
I'm
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks,
I'm
in
full
support
of
staff's
staff.
Recommendation
for
the
orchard
opportunity
site
for
mixed
use.
Zoning
mixed
use
would
allow
greater
flexibility
and
imagination
of
uses
and
amenities
that
our
community
desperately
needs.
E
E
E
D
Good
evening,
council
members
mark
sellers
president
of
thousand
oaks,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
two
things.
First
thing
is
the
seventh-day
adventist
church
which
over
in
newbury
park,
has
a
proposal
for
what
they
call
the
north
ranch,
which
north
campus,
which
is
above
their
existing
and
operating
two
schools,
and
originally
we
went
in
the
survey.
D
The
low
to
medium
density,
residential
use
for
that
site
was
came
in
number,
one
was
voted,
the
highest
preferred
alternative,
and
then
we
were
fairly
shocked
to
find
out
later
on
that
the
use
is
now
being
proposed
for
industrial.
D
The
school
operates
to
the
church
operates
two
schools
and
I've
learned
a
long
time
ago
that
putting
industrial
uses
next
to
schools
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
Not
only
were
this
industrial
use
for
the
residential
site,
but
to
established
restaurant
sites
right
next
to
the
school
were
changed
to
industrial
uses,
and
we
feel
that
they
ought
to
go
back
to
the
original
commercial
uses
for
the
restaurants
and
also
go
back
to
the
low
density
to
medium
density
residential
for
their
north
campus.
D
In
addition,
I
just
want
to
chat
a
little
bit
about.
I
am
the
secretary
of
the
business
improvement
district
for
the
boulevard
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
creating
that
district.
We
went
to
all
the
landowners
and
told
them
that
if
you
agree
to
be
assess
yourself
to
create
a
specific
plan,
we
will
give
everybody
the
right
to
have
a
application
not
to
get
but
to
have
an
application
for
mixed
use
along
the
whole
boulevard.
D
O
Good
evening
mayor
bill
de
la
pena,
council,
members
and
staff,
my
name
is
karen
gorbach.
I
have
been
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks
for
35
years.
I'm
a
proud
member
of
the
gpac,
but
I'm
speaking
tonight
on
my
own
behalf,
and
I
urge
you
to
support
the
preferred
land
use
map.
For
three
reasons.
The
map
is
the
culmination
of
an
open
process
in
which
matt
ramey
and
his
team,
along
with
city
staff,
have
gone
above
and
beyond
to
both
educate
and
actively
engage
members
of
the
community
for
input.
O
Second,
I
have
learned
that
city
planning
is
extraordinarily
complex,
but
in
the
end,
it's
not
about
low
or
medium
density,
mixed
use
or
village
centers
city
planning
is
about
people
and
that's
the
lens
and
the
only
lens
through
which
I
encourage
the
council
to
view
the
materials
before
you
tonight.
Will
the
preferred
land
use
map
best
serve
our
residents
as
well
as
our
children,
as
well
as
our
grandchildren,
by
reimagining,
a
city
in
which
people
can
affordably
live
in
energy
efficient
homes
in
diverse
walkable
neighborhoods,
where
they
can
raise?
O
Families
learn
work,
play
and
age
in
place,
and
I
think
it
will.
Finally,
change
is
happening
all
around
us.
Local,
national
and
world
demographics
are
trending.
Older
energy
is
becoming
more
precious
every
day,
we're
making
new
choices
about
where
we
live
and
how
we
work
and
learn
and
engage
in
commerce.
The
housing
element
of
the
general
plan
update
is
but
one
factor
putting
thousand
oaks
on
a
path
toward
a
more
livable
community
for
generations
to
come
and
deserves
your
support.
Thank
you.
P
Hello,
madam
mayor,
it's
my
understanding
that
you
ran
on
a
slow
growth
platform
and
it
seems
to
me
that
a
vote
for
a
proposal
that
includes
35
000
units
of
housing,
potentially
70
000
people,
a
vote
for
that
would
be
a
betrayal
of
your
promises.
So
that's
my
first
point.
My
second
point
with
respect
to
karen
gorbach
city
planning,
has
everything
to
do
with
density.
P
A
dense,
dense
developments
will
destroy
our
quality
of
life,
and
it
is
not
clear
to
me
where
any
of
this
is
coming
from,
for
example,
the
notion
that
people
have
some
god-given
right
to
live
in
thousand
oaks.
That
confuses
me.
I
would
encourage
the
council
to
study
the
effects
of
low-income
housing
elsewhere
in
the
country.
Don't
take
my
word
for
it.
We
have
experience
with
low-income
housing
and
what
it
does
to
communities.
P
My
third
and
final
point:
it
would
behoove
the
proponents
of
this
proposal
to
articulate
exactly
how
it
is
that
our
quality
of
life
is
going
to
improve
with
increased
density
and
with
35
000
units.
Mr
ramey,
what
you
said
set
off
alarms
in
my
mind
when
you
said
it
would
only
impact
three
percent
of
total
land
and
thousand
oaks.
I
feel
that
statement
was
disingenuous
and
underhanded
news.
Flash
people
do
not
stay
in
that
three
percent
of
the
area.
P
People
will
go
to
work
and
church
and
school
and
shopping
and
all
kinds
of
issues,
all
kinds
of
activities
they
will
spill
out
all
over
into
our
community
and
destroy
our
quality
of
life,
as
we
know
it.
With
respect
to
the
council,
I
ask
that
you
honor
your
campaign
promises
and
do
what
needs
to
be
done
to
to
protect
the
quality
of
life
for
the
citizens
of
thousand
oaks.
Thank
you.
B
D
Good
evening
my
name
is
justin,
I'm
student
and
I
strongly
support
the
recommendation
for
the
orchard
opportunity
site
for
mixed-use
zoning.
The
youth
of
this
community
needs
housing,
as
well
as
entertainment,
places
to
gather
and
enjoy
locally
mixed
use
will
allow
greater
flexibility
that
our
community
desperately
needs
activation
of
the
orchard
property
would
create
jobs,
housing
parks
and
open
spaces,
much
needed
revenue
for
our
community
and
help
a
young
family
stay
local.
E
Q
It
can
reduce
the
concentration
of
development
along
the
main
artery
of
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
resulting
in
less
traffic
congestion,
less
potential
spillover
into
adjacent
neighborhoods
and
faster,
safer
evac
during
disaster
situations
and
revitalize
existing
aging
and
vacant
commercial
retail
space
to
its
best
advantage.
Please
consider
mixed
use
in
all
the
village
centers.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
H
Hi,
I'm
jess
wahey.
Thank
you,
council
members.
For
your
time
tonight
I
am
a
newberry
park
resident
born
and
raised
in
newberry
park
and
now
raising
my
own
family.
Here.
You
have
probably
received
my
novel
of
an
email
by
now,
so
I'm
not
going
to
restate
that
for
this
comment,
but
I
do
just
want
to
quickly
touch
on
three
points
that
I
hope
that
the
council
will
consider
as
a
newberry
park
resident.
I
am
in
support
of
the
mixed
use:
zoning
at
the
borchard
site.
H
I
am
very
concerned
by
the
comments
tonight
suggesting
that
high
density
is
the
plan
of
the
city
throughout
the
city.
That's
not
the
case
with
this
plan,
so
I
hope
that
they
are
still
listening
and
understand
that
there
is
not
high
density
being
recommended
and
we
are
not
looking
at
skyscrapers
currently
as
part
of
this
plan.
H
Secondly,
I
would
like
to
voice
my
support
for
the
council
and
acknowledging
the
boulevard
specific
plan
for
the
boulevard
businesses,
and
I
do
believe
that
there
is
a
responsibility
to
recognize
that
that
plan
has
been
in
place
since
2011
and
worked
with
those
businesses
who
have
been
adhering
to
that
plan
for
the
duration
of
this
time,
in
good
faith
and
last,
I
do
hope
that
the
city
does
consider
its
current
stance
on
the
development
of
village
centers
throughout
the
city,
similar
to
the
borchard
site
and
what
it
can
do
for
our
city
in
terms
of
generating
tax
revenue
and
bringing
vitality
to
our
community
is
really
important,
and
that's
where
I'm
going
to
end
it
tonight.
B
E
Zoning
to
be
designated
mixed
use,
as
it
will
support
a
drastically
needed
community
right
right.
Revitalization,
when
my
husband
and
I
first
bought
our
house
in
newbury
park
in
2008
as
a
then
childless
couple,
we
knew
we
could
stay
put
for
a
long
time
because
of
the
top
tier
school
district.
However,
we
are
a
dying
district,
because
younger
families
cannot
afford
to
secure
new
housing
in
our
expensive
community
with
zero,
affordable
housing
and
nearly
no
starter
homes.
E
Empty
nesters
have
nowhere
here
to
downsize
into
when
their
children
go
off
to
have
their
own
families,
and
those
of
those
young
families
have
no
inventory
from
which
to
choose
to
stay
in
their
hometown
genuinely.
What
does
the
city
envision
will
happen
when
the
district
has
reached
this
tipping
point
where
it
cannot
recover
from
declining
enrollment
and
no
longer
is
a
destination
district?
Our
property
values
are
mainly
based
on
cvusd's
attractiveness.
E
When
we
had
our
first
baby
in
2011,
we
saw
how
limited
the
family
spaces
are
in
this
self-professed
family-centered
community.
There
are
no
spaces
in
which
to
grab
a
drink,
select
from
various
dining
options
and
eat
at
a
picnic
table
where
a
toddler
safely
plays
in
some
green
space,
we
have
to
drive
out
of
town
for
that.
The
planning
options
that
include
this
type
of
space
are
badly
needed
to
keep
young
families
doing
thousand
oaks
as
an
attractive
prize
option.
E
I
get
this
area,
I
moved
to
agora
in
1983.,
however,
while
many
of
our
local
politicians
cry
they're
simply
for
slow
growth
and
wish
to
maintain
the
small
town
charm,
they
big
grow
business,
development
and
squash
any
chance
to
shore
up
cbosd's
numbers.
Perhaps
the
local
politicians
need
to
embrace
their
true
label
slow
death
as
that's
what
they're
doing
to
see
the
usd
and
our
property
values
with
our
short-sightedness
we
do
build
here.
That's
not
a
secret.
We
just
don't
build
the
right
things
to
keep
our
wonderful
community
thriving
read
the
survey.
E
N
N
I
want
to
applaud
all
the
dedication
of
everyone
staying
on
tonight.
I
know
this
is
a
complicated
issue,
but
I
have
every
confidence
that
we'll
get
through
this
together.
Just
like
we've
always
done
in
this
thoughtful
community.
We
are
very
excited
this
year.
You
know
change
is
good
and
in
the
52
years
of
operating
los
robles
hospital
we
are
seeking
and
embracing
change
as
well.
N
We
are
becoming
a
teaching
hospital
this
year,
so
representing
over
1600
staff
members,
we're
going
to
be
welcoming
20
new
young
graduates
and
internists
as
residents
to
las
robles
hospital.
We
hope
that
they
stay
with
us.
Studies
have
shown
that
residents
in
their
communities
stay
and
want
to
build
and
grow
their
families,
but
they
have
to
be
able
to
afford
to
live
here
and
that's
what
I
think
that
they're
struggling
with
even
having
to
move
here
into
their
communities.
N
Five
of
them
are
local
moore
park,
high
school
west
lake,
high
school
thousand
oaks
high
school,
but
they're
having
to
move
home
with
mom
and
dad
and
they're
newly
graduated
doctors,
so
just
like
in
medicine,
there's
an
integrated
approach
with
eastern
and
western
medicine,
the
clinical
and
the
holistic
side.
I
know
that
thousands
come
up
with
something
that
is
in
going
to
embrace
growth,
embrace
diversity,
embrace
change
with
an
integrated
approach
to
embracing
this
plan.
N
Really,
a
good
friend
of
mine
said
to
me
recently
a
phrase
that
I
hope
will
stick
with
you,
short-term
pain
for
long-term
gain,
and
I
hope
that,
with
with
all
of
us,
pulling
together
again
thoughtfully
designing
something
that
that
meets
everyone's
needs,
that
we
will
again
be
one
of
the
most
stellar
cities
in
the
united
states
that
other
cities
will
want
to
emulate
embracing
this
general
plan.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Good
evening,
thank
you
city
council
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak.
C
C
C
I
believe
that
the
boardroom
opportunity
site
can
help
provide
vital
housing,
provide
business
opportunities
and
jobs
for
thousand
oaks.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
guys
for
working
really
hard
on
this
plan.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
different
opinions,
but
I
think
that
our
community
needs
to
provide
a
path
for
everybody,
who's
working
here
to
be
able
to
stay
here.
So
thank
you
guys
have
a
good
night.
T
T
T
I
visualize
a
village
on
that
property
with
walking
and
bike
paths
and
planted
buffer
zones
from
existing
properties,
no
high-rise
buildings
to
mars
sight
lines,
water
streams
and
a
lake
for
canoe
and
kayaks
to
rent
or
band
concerts
and
picnics
homes
could
be
architecturally
themed
in
individual
blocks.
Meandering
along
tree-lined
streets
and
small
parks.
T
B
T
The
area
with
fun
residential
restaurants,
shops,
some
are
all
overlooking
the
lake.
B
N
N
I
just
want
to
recognize
the
difficulty
before
the
city
council
and
I
want
to
honor
your
work
as
well
as
honor
the
work
of
the
consultants,
just
something
to
think
about
just
because
it
can
doesn't
mean
it
should
you
with
the
city
council
have
to
be
have
the
task
of
being
the
gatekeepers
and
based
on
the
way
that
the
survey
was
written
in
the
lack
of
controls
of
participants.
I'm
not
surprised
as
to
some
of
the
results.
N
It's
so
easy
for
those
who
don't
live
here
or
live
directly
in
the
portrait
area
to
say
sure
a
beer
garden
sounds
great
sure.
I'd
love
to
hop
in
a
kayak
for
sure
a
horsey
place
on
green.
That
sounds
so
cool
yeah.
We
want
to
be
able
to
go
there,
but
what
about
those
of
us
or
what
we've
not
heard
is
the
impact
of
traffic?
What
about
the
impact
of
water
or
resources
or
increases?
N
What?
What
is
the
estimate
of
cars
coming
in
and
out?
If
this
was
a
a
property
that
had
easy
access,
then
I
would
be
in
a
different
vote,
but
that
is
a
major
concern
that,
before
the
city
changes
the
designation
of
the
project
or
of
the
land,
we
really
do
need
to
have
a
traffic
survey.
What
is
that
going
to
change?
N
You
know
I?
I
am
all
for
growth.
I
understand
that
we
need
to
change
and
adapt,
and
someone
said
that
this
is
a
polarizing
issue.
Again,
it's
really
easy
when
you
don't
live
here
to
say
yeah
sure
go
ahead
and
make
that
change,
but
for
those
of
us
who
do
you're
going
to
destroy
a
community
earlier
tonight,
I
heard
that
the
overarching
goals
of
this
committee
was
to
maintaining
or
establish
neighbors,
maintain
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
mark
even
said
to
preserve
the
quality
of
life.
N
I
can
guarantee
you
if
you
build
this
project,
you're
going
to
destroy
the
neighborhood
surrounding
alice
and
the
you
know,
impact
of
the
michael
drive
you've
got
a
school
there,
that's
going
to
definitely
affect
the
traffic
and
I
would
hope
it
won't
affect
the
safety
of
the
children.
So
thank
you
and
look
forward
to
hearing
more
from
the
committee.
E
Activation
of
the
borchard
property
would
create
jobs,
housing
parks
and
open
space,
much
needed
revenue
for
our
community
and
help
young
family
plant
roots
in
the
community.
Nothing
in
thousand
oaks
happens
quickly.
Our
community
has
a
long
standing
history
of
checks
and
balance
of
every
proposed
project
project.
If
rezoned,
this
would
be
no
exception.
I
ask
that
you
give
this
opportunity
site
a
chance
to
bring
forward
a
project
that
would
be
an
asset
to
our
community
as
it
currently
sits.
It's
doing,
no
one
any
good.
Thank
you.
S
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
city
council,
again
fear
the
many
and
really
the
majority
of
the
long
time
thousand
oaks
in
newbury
park
and
westlake
residents
like
myself,
that
have
shared
with
you
tonight
that
we're
all
enjoying
the
slow
growth
that's
been
maintained
now
for
decades
by
the
city
councils
and
really
what
is
the
rush?
You
know
there's
talk
of
tens
of
thousands
of
units
when
really
we
heard
the
requirements
just
over
2
600
units
in
an
eight
year
period,
that's
328
units
a
year.
So
please
keep
that
in
mind.
S
I
call
on
you
to
continue
slow
growth
for
thousand
oaks
newbury
park
and
the
westlake
village
thousand
oak
areas,
areas
that
you
have
run
on
when
seeking
your
elections
and
have
stated
in
prior
city
council
meetings.
So
please
honor
those
campaign
campaign
pledges
and
the
many
decades
of
slow
growth
here
in
the
canoe
valley
thousand
oaks
that
we
treasure
you
know
that'd
be
to
adhere
to
the
35
foot,
maximum
height
limits
along
thousands
boulevard
in
other
parts
of
thousand
oaks,
especially
when
you
know
there's
been
approved.
S
Zoning
changes
that
cannot
be
changed
like
was
done
earlier
this
last
year
for
the
old
kmart
site.
You
know
those
those
traffic
problems
don't
happen
by
accident.
You
do
not
have
to
create
them.
You
do
not
have
to
improve
developments
that
will
obviously
not
pass
the
traffic
studies,
so
I
ask
you
to
continue
to
embrace
thousand
oaks
with
its
slow
growth
and
not
some
survey
that
I
haven't
even
heard
of
five
people
tonight
that
had
heard
of
it.
S
I'm
sorry
that
I
haven't
and
I'd
look
forward
to
a
survey
that
did
stand
up
to
the
rigors
of
a
objective
survey.
Again,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
and
we've
been
residents
for
over
22
years,
and
we
do
appreciate
your
work
and
what
we
have
here
in
thousand
oaks
and
look
forward
to
maintaining
that.
Thank
you.
S
Thank
you
mayor
bill
de
la
pena
and
members
of
the
city
council.
My
name
is
adam
haverstock
and
I'm
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
for
the
greater
canelo
valley
chamber
of
commerce.
S
S
S
The
truth
is
that
this
map
does
not
include
everything
the
business
community
was
looking
for,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
great
parts
of
this
map
that
we
do
like,
and
I
think
about
the
mayor's
comment
about
how
whatever
you
approve
is
not
going
to
be.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
a
compromise
and
not
everyone's
going
to
be
happy,
but
that's
you
know
how
the
sausage
gets
made.
S
Employers
constantly
convey
to
us
at
the
chamber
that
the
availability
of
workforce
housing
is
an
impediment
to
expansion
that,
in
the
lack
of
a
downtown
or
entertainment
district.
Thank
you
all
for
your
consideration
of
the
staffs
proposed
map.
Please
vote
yes
and
support
your
business
community.
Thank
you.
R
R
Specifically,
I
take
the
boulevard
a
lot
to
go
to
work
and
when
it
was
in
person
to
go
to
school
as
well-
and
I
know
traffic
is
very
bad
specifically
during
peak
hours
and
it
really
just
sort
of
makes
you
want
to
avoid
the
part
when
you
can,
even
though
it's
a
great
place,
it's
a
great
location.
It's
like
the
traffic
is
a
serious
problem
and
my
concern
is
that
the
plan
calls
for
many
large
projects
along
the
boulevard.
R
R
We
need
to
grow
in
a
smart
manner
and
there
are
a
few
ways
that
I
think
that
we
can
still
have
growth,
but
do
it
in
this
way-
and
one
thing
I
want
to
do
for
sure
is:
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
the
building
height
limit
at
35
feet,
because
if
we
raise
it
any
higher,
then
not
that
I
dislike
our
neighboring
areas,
such
as
the
valley
or
los
angeles.
R
And
I
also
feel
like
if
we
allow
the
village
centers
to
have
mixed
use
again,
then
this
will
cut
down
on
some
traffic,
not
a
lot
but
some,
and
it
will
also
put
unused
space
to
work.
And
this
is
one
really
important
detail.
That
I'd
like
to
focus
on
is
that
we
have
so
many
unused
buildings
here
in
the
city,
and
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
them.
They're
great
buildings,
and
if
we
just
revitalize
them
rather
than
building
a
bunch
of
new
ones,
then
that
would
be
fantastic.
R
We
wouldn't
make
the
city
more
dense
than
it
already
is,
and
we'd
be
being
as
efficient
as
possible
and
in
a
year
or
two
I'll
be
going
away
to
college,
and
when
I
come
back,
I
just
hope
to
come
back
to
the
same
great
city
that
I
left,
and
that
was
all
I
had
to
say.
Thank
you
for
listening.
B
M
Okay,
sorry
hi,
my
name
is
silvana
and
I
have
lived
in
thousand
oaks
since
1972..
In
regards
to
the
preferred
land
use
map.
I
would
like
to
see
no
mixed
use
or
residential
buildings
over
35
feet.
M
M
I
ask
that
you
add
a
new
land
use
designation
for
mixed
use,
very
low
that
allows
for
35
foot
heights.
Then
all
the
mixed-use,
low
and
mixed-use
medium
on
the
map
should
be
changed
to
the
mixed-use
very
low
designation
and
again
the
owners
can
come
before
the
council
to
request
a
higher
height
limits.
M
Also,
commercial
regionals
should
be
removed
from
the
map.
This
allows
for
75
feet.
These
areas
should
be
changed
to
commercial,
neighborhood
and
again
come
before
the
council
and
the
constituents
to
change
the
height
limit,
since
the
future
of
commercial
is
uncertain.
Why
make
such
large
scale
changes
when
we
don't
know
what
the
future
holds?
There's
time
to
change
the
map
later,
if
it
is
deemed
necessary?
M
This
will
disrupt
this
disperse,
the
density
throughout
trto,
rather
than
concentrating
it
all
on
to
boulevard
the
original
general
plan
had
it
right
from
that
document.
We
have
a
beautiful
city.
Let's
keep
it
that
way
and
minimize
the
changes
in
the
land
use
map
and
also,
I
just
would
like
to
say,
please
take
into
account
all
the
emails
you've
received,
not
just
the
speakers
you're
hearing
tonight.
Most
people
don't
have
the
time
to
speak
at
these
meetings.
F
No
law,
no
taller
than
35
feet
is
part
of
what
I've
grown
to
love
about
the
canelo
valley
and
really,
when
you
look
at
a
35
foot
high
building
like
what
they've
done
at
the
lupe
site,
it's
quite
tall
and
if
you
can
imagine
buildings
twice
that
height
along
the
boulevard.
That's
what
this
plan
is
asking
to
have
the
approval
to
build
it's
totally
out
of
character
with
our
city,
and
we
don't
want
the
canal
valley
to
become
more
like
the
san
fernando
valley.
F
B
O
B
Q
I've
been
a
part
of
the
south
oaks
community
for
over
a
decade.
Like
many,
I
don't
believe
that
this
many
people
want
this
development
and
my
main
concern
is
safety.
I'm
very
concerned
over
increased
traffic
and
already
congested
areas,
especially
high
risk
fire
areas,
kids
playing
in
those
areas,
breathing
in
all
the
exhausts.
If
they're
going
to
be
residential
places
there
and
more
accidents,
I
can't
even
imagine
committing
more
space
to.
Q
Q
C
Q
Q
The
reason
that
this
were
in
support
of
this
recommendation
for
mixed
use
is
is
because
people
matter
people
matter
above
and
beyond
anything
else.
So
let
me
tell
you
what
I
mean
by
that
just
in
my
family
as
a
nine-year-old
moving
here
once
I
became
a
teenager,
there
was
nothing
to
do
here,
so
I
always
had
to
leave
if
we
were
ever
going
to
going
to
do
anything
as
a
young
adult
once
I
exited
high
school
and
in
college,
I
could
not
afford
to
live
here.
Q
Q
On
top
of
that,
my
mother
who's
been
here
longer
than
I
have
lives
in
this
house.
That's
far
too
big
for
her.
Now
there
is
nowhere
for
her
to
move,
there's
absolutely
nowhere.
It's
far
too
expensive,
so
without
more
affordable
housing,
you're
tearing
families
apart,
my
brother
can't
afford
to
live
here.
My
mom
can't
afford
to
live
here,
we're
considering
moving
elsewhere,
so
we
can
get
a
bigger
house
to
move
to
move
my
mother
in-
and
you
know
this
is
just
one
example
of
one
family,
but
none
of
my
employees
can
afford
to
leave
here.
Q
B
C
C
Loopy's
restaurant
build
out
was
a
prime
example
of
the
unmitigated
disaster
of
the
traffic
we
had
to
deal
with,
as
well
as
the
refurbishing
of
the
street,
from
herbs
up
to
the
civic
arts,
plaza
with
any
type
of
build
out
in
high
density
housing
along
teal
boulevard.
It's
going
to
absolutely
destroy
the
city.
There
are
other
options.
C
There
are
empty
buildings,
warehouses
that
can
be
repurposed
or
modified
to
take
the
stress
off
an
already
heavily
trafficked
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
here's
what
I've
heard
from
the
number
of
people
tonight
that
they
would
like
to
have
areas
where
they
could
hang
out
close
to
home
and
that
all
sounds
really
very,
very
good.
But
I'd
like
to
hang
out
in
malibu.
But
I
don't
think
I'd,
have
any
luck
going
to
the
city
council
and
telling
them
that
they
have
to
put
in
affordable
housing.
For
me
to
live.
C
Where
I
want
to
hang
out
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense.
This
community
was
built
on
slow
growth.
We
are
the
most
equal
opportunity
opportunity
as
a
country
and
as
a
city,
that
you
can
choose
your
life's
paths
and
where
you
live,
but
you
can't
force
cities
who
have
had
plans
in
place
to
change
just
on
your
whim
and
your
desire.
We
try
to
accommodate
everybody
in
the
best
fashion
that
we
can,
but
I
completely
disagree
with
high
density
housing,
especially
when
we
have
many
years
in
which
to
accomplish
a
mandate.
B
S
Hi,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak,
I
put
myself
in
front
of
this
seven-story
building
just
to
illustrate
the
scale
of
what
we're
talking
about
changing
our
community
into.
I
don't
think
I
know
a
single
resident
who
would
be
okay
with
something
like
this
flanking,
the
boulevard
or
frankly,
anywhere
else
in
our
community.
S
Most
residents
of
thousand
oaks
have
located
here
because
of
the
semi-rural
nature
of
this
community.
For
those
looking
for
an
urban
environment
with
an
invigorating
nightlife
bars,
there's
no
shortage
of
options
for
that
they're
commutable
to
all
the
major
business
centers.
This
environment
that
we
have
is
unique
environment.
That
is
essentially
unequal
anywhere
south
of
santa
barbara.
So
you
kill
this
environment
there's
nowhere
for
us
to
go
right.
You
want
to
live
in
a
place.
That's
got
a
vibrant
nightlife.
S
That's
got
noise
and
people
going
out
and
hanging
out
at
the
bars
go
move
to
playa
vista.
You
know
you
really
only
have
to
drive
to
playa
vista
to
see
the
future
of
our
community
if
outside
developers
are
allowed
to
build
this
sort
of
thing
in
our
space
for
the
short
term
gain.
I
don't
think,
there's
any
reason
to
sacrifice
the
nature
of
thousand
oaks
for
the
sake
of
corporate
developers
in
the
short
term.
S
You
know,
I
think
that
it's
I
don't
know
that
anyone
feels
passionately
about
seven-story
buildings
except
developers,
and
they
don't
live
here.
They
live
in
places
like
montecito,
where
they
passionately
vote
down
seven-story
buildings
in
their
own
towns
and
then
have
their
employees
contact
their
millennial
friends
to
call
into
these
meetings
and
give
their
cute
opinions
on
developing
our
land
with
the
developers
prepared
talking
points.
S
So
that's
my
two
cents.
I
hope
that
you
guys
can
see
it
through
to
bring
this
to
a
community
vote.
I
think
that's
the
only
fair
thing
I
think
the
survey
was
well
intentioned,
but
when
you
consider
a
community
of
127
000
people
to
take
the
voice
of
three
percent
of
those,
I
don't
think
it's
fair
and
I
don't
think
is
a
a
good
idea.
C
I
live
in
thousand
oaks.
You've
heard
me
say
this
before,
but
I'll
say
it
again
for
the
people
in
the
back
ventura
county's
average
temperature
has
increased
4.7
degrees
since
1895,
making
ours
the
fastest
warming
county
in
the
continental
united
states.
Our
county
is
number
one
out
of
3143
counties
in
the
u.s.
The
average
temperature
in
thousand
oaks
is
projected
to
climb
three
to
five
degrees
over
the
next
20
years.
We
are
in
a
climate.
Emergency
observation
throughout
the
world
can
make
it
clear
that
climate
change
is
occurring
and
rigorous.
C
Scientific
research
demonstrates
that
greenhouse
gases
emitted
by
human
activities
are
the
primary
driver.
Multiple
studies
published
in
peer-reviewed
scientific
journals
show
that
97
or
more
of
actively
publishing
climate
scientists
agree.
Climate-Warming
trends
over
the
past
century
are
due
to
human
activities.
In
addition,
most
of
the
leading
scientific
organizations
worldwide
have
issued
public
statements
endorsing
this
position
when
making
plans
for
the
future
of
thousand
oaks.
I
urge
the
mayor,
the
city
council
and
anyone
listening
to
make
decisions
based
on
science
that
recognizes
that
we
are
in
a
climate
emergency.
C
C
We
need
a
forward-thinking
plan
for
thousand
oaks
mixed
use
distributed
to
village
centers
could
create
more
walkable
and
livable
town
squares.
We
need
to
focus
on
plans
that
encourage
bicycling,
walking
and
public
transportation.
We
need
to
focus
on
what
makes
our
cities
livable
and
create
a
fossil
fuel
free
and
a
plan
for
future
generations.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
former
planning
commissioner
andrew
pletcher
and
owner
of
oaks
and
iron
and
then
bertram
steve
bertram,
followed
by
johanna
jones.
S
Take
a
moment
to
thank
staff.
Thank
raymian
associates,
along
with
the
gpac
planning,
commission
and
everyone.
Who's
had
their
hand
in
this
positive
experience
over
the
last
two
years.
As
someone
who
who
personally
has
worked
with
raymie
and
associates
in
both
palmdale
and
seeing
the
process
here
in
thousand
oaks,
his
work
is
one
of
the
best
and
we
are
very
fortunate
to
have
him
here,
guiding
us
through
the
process.
That
being
said,
I
just
want
to
address
four
quick
points
number
one.
S
Regarding
the
village
centers,
I
generally
support
staff's
recommendation,
but
I
would
also
take
a
moment
to
look
at
the
dos
vientos
village
center
as
a
great
opportunity
to
immediately
get
units,
possibly
built,
as
you
saw
tonight
in
your
supplemental
review,
you
have
a
willing
landowner,
who's
willing
to
sit
and
explore
this
process
and
and
willing
to
look
at
the
next
steps.
We
have
to
remember
in
this
process
we're
laying
out
a
general
plan.
We're
laying
out
planning
government
does
not
build.
We
need
private
developers.
S
We
need
private
individuals
to
step
up
and
build.
I
generally
agree
with
staff
on
the
recommendation
of
the
rancho
canelo
opportunity
site.
I
think
working
with
the
applicant
and
their
open
space
buffer
and
the
willingness
of
him
to
work
with
both
the
neighbors
in
the
city,
you
know,
should
take
it
to
the
next
level
and
allow
his
concept
to
be
heard.
We
have
to
remember
that
this
concept
will
still
go
through
the
environmental
review
and
environmental
process
number
three
completely
supportive
of
the
thousand
oaks
mall
and
jans
for
low
density.
S
Mixed
use.
I've
advocated
for
this
position
for
a
number
of
years
because
of
setbacks,
street
coverage
and
traffic
and
finally,
number
four
is,
I
believe,
the
sp
20
or
the
boulevard
specific
plan.
A
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
it
over
the
years
from
staff
from
the
bid
and
city
council
members,
and
that
should
be
recognized
and
carried
over.
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
mayor.
D
Hi
good
evening,
my
name
is
steve
bertram.
For
the
past
four
and
a
half
years,
I've
been
the
chief
people
officer
of
atara
bio
therapeutics,
leading
a
tenfold
increase
in
employees
for
the
company
in
thousand
oaks.
Last
month
I
launched
a
human
capital
advisory
practice
supporting
the
life
sciences
sector
in
the
greater
la
area
generally
and
specifically
in
the
conejo
valley
prior
to
atar,
I
spent
18
years
in
leadership
positions
at
amgen,
a
challenge
that
all
life
sciences
companies
face
is
attracting
retaining
often
earlier
in
career
talent.
D
The
labor
market
is
extremely
competitive
for
these
highly
sought.
After
and
highly
educated
scientists
and
associated
experts,
attracting
and
retaining
talent
is
arguably
the
number
one
challenge
that
these
companies
face
daily.
The
greater
thousand
oaks
area
has
tremendous
lifestyle
and
quality
of
life
advantages
that
cannot
and
should
not
be
compromised
for
the
sake
of
growth.
Having
said
that,
the
area
is
at
a
pivot
point
in
the
establishment
of
a
marquee
industry
in
the
region
focused
on
life
sciences
in
the
golden
age
of
biotechnology.
D
Companies
in
the
area
include,
of
course,
amgen
and
cicada,
but
also
companies
like
atara
capsida,
dantari
uncle
valent,
arcudus,
a2,
acceleran,
mankind,
wildwood
and
latiga,
many
of
which
were
incubated
incubated
by
westlake
bioventures.
I
understand
better,
probably
better
than
most
the
delegate
balance
between
adding
housing
units
while
maintaining
our
outstanding
natural
beauty
and
avoiding
rampant
growth.
However,
I
would
argue
that
if
I,
if
we
do
not
refresh
the
people
coming
into
the
community
on
a
continuous
and
sustained
basis,
we
risk
diminishing
the
overall
quality
of
life
in
the
long
term.
D
All
this
is
a
long
way
of
stating
that
I
think
the
plan
is
presented
this
evening
strikes
the
correct
balance
that
will
support
this
community
for
years
to
come.
Is
it
everything
that
I
would
like?
No
does
it
reflect
reasonable
compromise
and
incorporate
the
feedback
from
various
constituencies?
I
think
yes,
as
my
time
expires,
let
me
leave
you
with
four
thoughts.
One
the
planet
as
presented
represents
a
reasonable
set
of
compromises
that
ensures
our
quality
of
life
is
maintained.
Two
the
plan
provides
the
opportunity
for
development
along
certain
classifications.
D
E
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
comments
earlier
and
thank
you
to
the
remy
group
for
updating
the
general
plan
to
reflect
the
voices
of
the
people.
I
moved
here
as
a
child.
When
I
was
two
years
old,
which
was
just
over
40
years
ago,
I
bought
a
house
actually
the
one
I
grew
up
in
from
my
mother
raised
children,
and
I
built
a
business
here.
E
I'm
also
the
co-founder
of
805
resistance,
where
we
have
pledged
to
push
for
equity
and
inclusivity
in
thousand
oaks,
I'm
not
the
same
person
I
was
40
years
ago,
and
I
don't
want
the
city
to
be
the
same
either.
I
want
to
evolve
away
from
the
original
white
flight,
elitist,
anti-busting
city
that
we
were
founded
as
to
values
that
include
equity,
inclusivity,
flexibility,
climate
and
the
forward
thinking
to
include
different
levels
of
housing
for
all
populations
and
our
millennial,
tech
and
biotech
population
who
want
community
things
to
do
and
flexible
living.
E
They
don't
want
to
buy
suburban
houses.
The
way
of
the
future
is
not
the
way
of
the
past.
The
development
of
the
rancho
property
hits
so
many
of
these
opportunities
in
one
build
and
thousand
oaks
does
not
have
enough
open
land
to
develop
on,
and
this
is
one
of
the
rare
opportunities
that
we
do
have
to
meet.
All
of
these
needs
to
support
all
of
the
hub
of
tech
and
biotech
and
to
bring
in
a
diverse
population.
E
Q
Good
evening,
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
1000
oats
mantra
has
always
been
slow.
Growth
and
protection
of
the
oak
trees
and
making
sure
canejo
valley
doesn't
become
another
san,
fernando
valley,
with
regards
to
building
up
and
building
out,
leaving
barely
a
morsel
of
dirt
to
mow
as
city
council,
you
should
take
a
good
look
around
town
and
count
the
number
of
empty
buildings
standing.
Q
Some
have
been
empty
for
a
generation
and
others
are
more.
Recent
vacated
buildings
have
increased
exponentially
and
are
still
on
the
rise.
Who
are
the
so-called
environmentalists
on
this
council?
Let
me
guess
there
are
none.
Being
an
environmentalist
was
just
a
disguise
to
get
elected
we've
seen
this
before
with
linda
parks,
claiming
to
be
one
yet
she's
responsible
for
spilling
85
million
gallons
of
raw
sewage,
that
cost
taxpayers
over
2
million
dollars
and
again,
taxpayers
had
to
foot
the
bill
for
the
atrocity
of
oakview
homes
becoming
unlivable
because
she
decided
to
divert
the
ventura
river.
Q
So
what
would
we
be
liable
for
building
in
a
flood
plain?
So
here
we
are,
with
the
general
plan
and
listening
to
our
city
council.
Consider
using
our
money
to
build
up
and
out
and
destroy
what
they
were
elected
to
protect,
while
allowing
our
city
to
be
full
of
empty
vacant
buildings.
We
are
done
with
the
bait
and
switch
policies
of
our
local
elected
leaders.
Q
Our
local
school
board's
allegiance
is
to
the
union
and
the
local
hate
group,
indivisible
conejo,
not
just
serving
the
community,
they
were
elected
to
serve
and
you
have
put
forth
a
presentation
based
on
5
000
people
and
called
out
a
fair
representation
who
are
the
5
000
people.
Your
courthouse,
many
citizens
haven't
heard
of
your
survey
or
plans,
so
who's
really
running
our
city
governed
for
the
people
of
this
community
and
not
for
sacramento
or
others
with
special
interests,
and
certainly
not
your
5
000
hand-picked
survey.
Q
B
Q
This
is
karen.
I
have
come
to
you
several
times
to
try
to
get
some
help
out
here
on
lynn
road,
because
the
traffic
is
insane
and
we've
had
three
accidents.
In
six
months.
I
spoke
with
rick
lemo.
He
promised
me
at
one
of
the
meetings
that
he
would
get.
Some
help
talk
to
tim
hagel.
He
said
he
was
going
to
get
me
some
help
and
we
know
what
happened
to
him
spoke
to
ed
jones
and
ed
doesn't
call
me
back.
Q
So
I
don't
really
trust
this
general
plan
is
going
to
be
in
my
best
interest.
I
wish
you
would
look
and
read
the
old
general
plan
because
it
really
warns
you
about
moore
park
and
hampshire
road.
They
are
poorly
rated.
You
can't
handle
it
you've
taken
out
one
of
the
two
black
walnut
groves
by
the
299
east
thousand
oaks
boulevard
project.
Q
You
also
have
given
them
unlimited
waste
water
access
no
charge.
While
you
are
asking
its
citizens
to
pay
in
advance
on
their
taxes
a
lump
sum,
I
am
encouraged
by
mcnamee
and
the
fact
that
he
sees
through
it
and
had
the
bravery
to
say
something,
and
you
should
have
recused
yourself
mayor
from
the
helic
port.
Q
They
have
never
dealt
with
the
fact
that
I
am
the
closest
house
in
the
west
approach
to
the
heliport
and
everything
you've
done
on
that
traffic
study
was
a
sham.
People
are
going
to
be
killed
on
this
street
because
people
are
racing.
I've
got
homeless
people.
I
woke
up
one
morning
to
see
a
man
urinating
on
the
hill.
B
T
C
Ahead
good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
council
members,
I'm
tom
cohen,
I'm
a
60-year
resident,
a
thousand
oaks.
Also,
the
past
chair
of
the
greater
canoe
valley,
chair
chamber
of
commerce
t.o,
was
a
small
town.
When
I
arrived
in
1961,
we
had
about
10
000
residents,
we
walked
and
rode
our
bikes
all
over.
Our
little
town,
though,
has
evolved
and
grown
beautifully
responsibly
and
with
purpose
we
started
with
the
jans
mall.
Now
the
marketplace.
We
now
have
the
oaks
regional
mall,
a
large,
auto
mall,
three
public
high
schools
parks
and
open
space.
C
Our
businesses
have
suffered,
and
we
now
have
the
opportunity
to
address
this
through
this
general
plan
update
and
what
is
being
presented
is
a
responsible
approach
to
address
the
changing
world.
We
live
and
work
in
by
limiting
future
housing
opportunities
in
concentrated
areas,
as
shown
in
the
current
draft
plan.
C
I
believe
we're
also
missing
opportunities
in
the
draft
map.
We
should
be
looking
at
housing
on
the
seventh-day
adventist
north
campus,
the
exxon
property
at
wilbur
and
hillcrest
the
old
office
complexes
that
will
become
obsolete,
like
the
property
located
at
501
marin
and
the
anthem
properties
in
the
east,
end
of
to
there's
a
big
giant
vacant
building
there
housing
works
well
in
all
of
these
locations
because
all
are
near
other
jobs,
services
and
shopping
become
walkable,
sustainable
and
the
property
owners
are
willing.
C
B
P
Hi
there,
thank
you,
my
name
is
chris
and
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
adjacent
to
the
open
land
between
orchard
and
wendy.
I'm
probably
one
of
the
more
newer
residents
to
newbury
park.
We
moved
here
four
and
a
half
years
ago
from
the
big
city
life
of
studio
city
in
la
to
get
away
from
you
know,
kind
of
all
of
that.
P
We
love
it
out.
Here
we
love
the
quiet.
You
know,
slow
growth,
small
town
feel
that
newberry
park
has
always
offered
and
we're
very
concerned
with
this
plot
of
land
and
and
it
being
over
developed.
It
was
one
of
the
reasons
we
bought.
The
the
house
here
was
that
we
understood
nothing
could
be
developed
on
it
or,
if
anything,
single
family
homes.
P
You
know
I
was
riding
around
the
neighborhood
on
my
bike
today
and
I'm
I'm
trying
to
picture
thousands
of
people
coming
into
this
area
up
and
down
alice
up
and
down
denise
street,
and
it's
just
gonna
cause
a
nightmare.
I
mean
it's
there's
just
nowhere
for
these
cars
to
go.
A
gentleman
earlier
alluded
to
how
many
trips
would
be
going
up
and
down
these
streets
trying
to
make
turns
out
of
out
of
alice
on
the
wendy
in
the
single
single
lane
on
ramps.
It's
just.
P
I
don't
think
we
can
handle
this
sort
of
amount
of
people
to
come
into
this
area,
but
I
would
like
to
support
the
landowner
and
and
have
him
you
know,
offer
him
the
ability
to
to
build
on
that
land.
I
just
would
like
to
request
it
to
stay
as
r1
zoning,
so
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
for
everyone
and
everyone
participation
on
both
sides.
I
appreciate
that.
O
O
We
trusted
and
elected
you
to
represent
us
in
the
late
60s
early
70s,
when
building
of
most
housing
treks
took
place,
we
learned
from
other
cities
what
would
be
avoided,
so
we
could
provide
beautiful
living
environments
for
everyone
most
of
the
streets
have
in
the
tracks
have
cul-de-sacs
to
keep
traffic
control.
Our
homes
are
separate
from
our
business
districts.
O
O
I've
had
the
privilege
of
helping
people
move
into
our
community
for
30
years.
The
adventure
for
applying
for
permits
to
improve
new
or
existing
homes
has
proven
to
us.
Our
codes
are
rigorous
and
planning
has
done
their
job.
Well,
we
are
in
the
top
10
cities
in
the
nation
for
most
strict
codes
that
have
been
successful,
improving
in
in
preserving
the
needs
for
growth
and
goals
for
serving
and
ever
changing
diversity
as
young
families
and
people
from
all
over
the
world
move.
O
Here,
our
population
increases
slowly
and
the
needs
for
services
evolve
with
the
growth
and
changing
demographics.
We
are
a
small
suburb,
not
a
five-story
hub.
The
development
will
be
consistent
with
the
character
of
the
canejo
apartments,
condos,
small
houses,
luxury
estates,
theater
schools,
houses
of
worship,
health
care
activity,
centers
for
young
and
old.
Next
to
the
to
library
we
provide
for
people
who
want
to
thrive
here.
O
Q
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
city
council
members,
I
am
requesting
that
the
city
council
accept
the
planning
commission's
5-0
vote,
recommending
village
centers
as
areas
of
change
in
the
land
use
plan
alternatives.
There
are
many
benefits
to
distributing
housing
to
existing
commercial
centers,
rather
than
concentrating
it
all
along
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
in
the
rancho
caneo
area.
Q
Q
Excuse
me
closer
to
a
home
for
younger
generations
and
seniors
also
preserve
a
for
single-family
neighborhoods
reduced
need
for
increased
density
and
housing
project
projects
along
thasanox
boulevard
and
easier
mobility
around
the
city
and
improved
access
to
routinely
needed
services
for
more
residents.
It
also
reduces
routine
traffic
and
parking
congestion.
Q
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
F
B
G
B
B
C
Wow,
even
when
you
like
this
wait
this
long,
it's
like
a
bingo
when
your
name
gets
called
very
cool.
I
I'm
willy
luke
a
20-year
resident
of
thousand
oaks,
I'm
a
homeowner,
a
small
business
owner
and
a
voter
in
2019.
After
my
mother
became
a
widow.
We
moved
her
to
an
assisted
living
facility
here
in
thousand
oaks,
so
she'd
be
near
my
family.
C
C
When
the
covet
quarantine
prevented
us
from
visiting
her,
we
got
a
webcam
installed,
so
we
could
visit
by
video
that
was
made
possible
by
one
of
the
staff
members
who
set
it
up
and
taught
her
to
use
zoom.
We
are
grateful
because
those
video
chats
allowed
us
to
have
some
togetherness
before
she
passed
away.
Last
august,
the
people
who
cared
for
my
mom
gave
her
a
quality
of
life
as
her
health
declined.
C
I
hope
everyone
here
will
find
similar
care
workers
when
the
need
arises
in
your
family
or
for
yourself
workers
at
senior
care
facilities.
All
over
thousand
oaks
earn
modest
wages,
often
minimum
wage.
An
annual
income
at
minimum
wage
is
less
than
thirty
thousand
just
think
of
living
in
thousand
oaks.
On
that
income,
housing
is
a
very
difficult
challenge.
C
Care
workers
who
serve
our
aging
and
disabled
populations
and
other
modest
income
earners
who
perform
all
kinds
of
vital
services
are
not
a
burden.
They
are
essential
members
of
our
community
and
they
deserve
to
be
treated
as
such.
The
need
for
decent,
affordable
housing
should
not
be
overlooked
or
sneered
at
it
will
strengthen
our
city.
B
M
Good
evening,
council
members,
thank
you
for
all
of
your
time
tonight.
My
name
is
melanie
hopkins
and
I
was
born
and
raised
here
in
thousand
oaks.
After
nearly
10
years
living
in
other
states
for
college
and
jobs.
My
husband
and
I
have
recently
returned
home,
we're
actually
currently
in
the
process
of
buying
a
home
in
the
rancho
canao
area
of
newbury
park
and
look
forward
to
starting
a
family
here
where
we
both
grew
up.
M
That's
become
familiar
to
many
of
us,
it's
more
important
now
than
ever
before,
to
have
nearby
restaurants,
outdoor
areas,
wineries,
breweries
to
enjoy
this
beautiful
place
that
we
all
live
in
because
of
our
growing
need
for
affordable
places
to
live
and
businesses
and
gathering
spaces
that
appeal
to
young
professionals
and
growing
families.
I'm
particularly
excited
about
the
potential
for
a
mixed-use
designation
in
the
borchardt
area.
M
B
T
T
T
T
The
results
of
the
survey,
I
believe,
are
in
question.
When
my
family
moved
here,
there
was
250
residents
and
now
we're
at
125,
130
000.,
and
I
support
growth.
I've
grown
up
here.
I
was
born
and
raised
here
and
seen
this
city
grow,
but
it's
always
been
responsible
growth
through
the
leadership
of
our
city
council
of
the
past,
and
you
know,
I
believe
the
current
plan
in
place
now
has
a
cap
on
the
number
of
residents
allowed.
T
I
don't
see
why
bringing
35
000
new
residential
units
in
does
what
the
state
is
mandating
at
2600.
T
T
B
S
Hello,
thank
you
very
much.
The
process
of
creating
a
new
land
use
map
for
the
city
represents
untold
opportunities
for
all
of
us.
During
this
process,
there
has
been
significant
discussion
about
the
housing
mandates
being
forced
upon
cities
by
the
state.
Our
city
has
done
a
great
job,
limiting
growth
for
many
years,
and
if
we're
smart,
we
can
continue
to
maintain
control.
S
Refusing
to
recognize
these
mandates
will
place
us
in
the
crosshairs
of
the
state
and
result
in
a
complete
loss
of
control,
imagine
being
forced
to
allow
eight-story
buildings
within
a
quarter
mile
of
a
transportation
corridor.
Imagine
if
every
single
family
homeowner
were
allowed
to
divide
their
lot
and
build
four
units
on
their
property.
These
are
just
a
couple
of
bills,
authored
by
state
legislators
that,
if
we're
not
careful
could
find
their
way
to
becoming
a
reality.
S
I
live
in
newbury
park
and
I'm
fully
supportive
of
additional
capacity
being
placed
in
various
locations
identified
in
the
staff
report.
It
strikes
me
as
odd
that
some
who
claim
to
support
the
development
of
a
biotech
corridor
in
the
rancho
canaria
area
would
then
deny
the
opportunity
to
provide
housing
for
the
employees
of
those
businesses
willing
to
invest
millions
of
dollars
in
our
community.
S
I
recognize
37
acre
porch
property
represents
the
single
largest
undeveloped,
privately
owned
property
in
the
city.
It
was
determined
to
be
an
opportunity
site
in
2017
and
remains
such
to
this
day.
While
I
recognize
the
site
poses
significant
challenges,
those
issues
would
and
could
be
addressed
through
the
planning
process.
Staff's
recommendation,
the
site,
specific
policies
be
attached
to
the
property
would
ensure
that
any
and
all
issues
would
be
mitigated.
Tonight.
S
You
have
an
opportunity
to
ensure
the
financial
future
of
our
city
by
approving
a
plan
that
would
significantly
increase
both
property
and
sales
tax
revenues
for
the
foreseeable
future.
This
is
vital
to
our
ability
to
provide
the
services
our
residents
demand
and
would
stave
us
any
reductions
or
elimination
of
services.
This
process
is
about
compromise.
Nobody
gets
everything
they
want.
Sky
is
not
falling,
and
we
owe
it
to
future
generations
to
provide
a
place
for
them.
Progress
doesn't
come
from
looking
in
the
rearview
mirror.
S
It
comes
from
staring
out
the
windshield
and
having
the
courage
and
vision
to
look
forward.
I'm
looking
for
sensible,
measured
growth
that
we
control
and,
at
a
rate
our
city
can
easily
absorb.
This
is
a
marathon
not
a
sprint.
Having
watched
the
process
reviewed,
the
staff
report,
I'm
in
full
support
of
the
recommendations,
and
I
encourage
you
all
to
do
the
same.
Thank
you.
B
F
Madam
mayor
and
council
members,
I
am
craig
lightersdorf,
I
reside
in
thousand
oaks.
I
appreciate
your
service
on
our
behalf.
Sadly,
I
believe
that
the
preferred
map
is
flawed
in
three
basic
respects.
Firstly,
the
map
fails
to
preserve
the
defining
aspect
of
our
community.
It's
a
balance
between
residential
neighborhoods,
commercial
and
industrial
use
and
ample
open
space
with
unimpeded
sight
lines.
F
Secondly,
as
a
practicing
engineer,
I
believe
it
is
irresponsible
to
develop
a
preferred
map
without
first
identifying
the
key
constraints.
Specific
concerns
include
water.
Are
we
really
confident
we
can
supply
water
for
up
to
70
000
additional
residents
in
a
reliable
and
cost
effective
manner?
When
we
have
struggled
to
rise
to
the
challenge
of
repeated
droughts
in
the
recent
past
about
traffic?
F
Are
we
able
to
accommodate
the
traffic
associated
with
substantial
increases
in
the
residential
and
working
populations
in
our
community
and
finally,
power?
Increasing
the
population
of
our
community
by
50
percent,
as
could
conceivably
occur
under
the
proposed
plan,
will
place
additional
stress
on
our
already
challenged
electrical
grid.
F
The
antithesis
of
the
rationale
for
the
draft
map,
where
we're
increasing
densities
so
based
on
the
foregoing,
I
respectfully
request
that
we
reject
the
draft
map
in
favor
of
a
more
balanced
plan
designed
to
meet
the
state's
short-term
mandate,
while
taking
relevant
constraints
into
full
consideration.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
Also.
O
Thank
you
good
evening
elected
civil
servants
and
I
don't
pray
pejoratively,
but
rather
as
a
teaching
moment
to
remind
you
and
us
of
the
proper
role
we
play
in
government.
You
work
for
us
and
it's
not
the
other
way
around.
Miss.
O
I
I
I'm
in
port
wyoming,
but
what
happened?
Amy
or
a
thousand
oaks
doesn't
stay
there.
This
is
why
I
was
alarmed
this
past
year
has
focused
my
attention
on
government
because
of
its
overreach
and
intrusion
into
our
lives.
This
is
why
I
was
alarmed
that
the
very
first
item
listed
under
reasons
for
updating
the
land
use
map
is
to
satisfy
state
requirements.
O
You
were
not
elected
to
govern
on
behalf
of
the
republic
of
california.
That
is
not
your
job
or
your
jurisdiction,
just
as
linda
parks
is
acting
outside
her
authority
as
a
supervisor
when
she
uses
staff
to
promote
her
agenda
on
this
subject,
it's
just
one
reason
why
she's
being
recalled
earlier
speaker
talked
about
the
50
year
old
plan.
Was
it
evaluated
to
see
how
the
theory
played
out
against
practice?
Are
there
any
lessons
to
be
learned?
Also,
do
you
realize
there
are
over
600
pages
of
materials
to
be
reviewed?
O
You
have
city
staff
available
to
you
to
read,
digest
and
recommend
actions.
Voters
and
residents
do
not
have
that
benefit.
They
must
rely
on
you
to
help
work
through
the
planning.
Are
they
clear
that
you're
working
for
sacramento
and
it's
so
important
to
do
so
as
opposed
to
the
residents
of
thousand
oaks?
Lastly,
in
this
day
of
doxing
in
social
media
and
bullying,
are
you
aware
that
a
lot
of
the
pers
people's
personal
information,
including
names
emails
home,
addresses
and
phone
numbers,
are
available
in
the
600
plus
documents?
None
of
it
was
redacted.
O
D
B
D
Hi,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name's
steven
mayer,
I'm
local
to
thousand
oaks
currently
working
at
our
office
in
westlake
village
for
the
last
17
years
and
I'm
part
of
the
seventh-day
adventist
church
leadership,
which
owns
several
parcels
within
thousand
oaks
that
are
affected
by
this
map.
While
I'm
generally
supportive
of
the
changes
proposed,
I'm
very
concerned
that
lands
owned
by
the
adventist
church
will
be
adversely
impacted
by
the
proposed
change.
D
For
the
last
several
years,
the
church
has
been
working
with
the
city
and
looking
for
a
partner
to
find
best
uses
many
times
we
have
been
encouraged
by
the
city
to
help
meet
the
need
of
housing
open
space
community
needs.
There
was
even
talk
about
using
our
land
for
the
rams
practice
facility,
a
former
priority
at
thousand
oaks.
D
D
N
Thank
you
mayor
and
city
council
members.
I
am
a
resident
of
newbury
park.
I
wish
to
address
the
changes
to
our
thousand
oaks
development
in
your
very
own
general
plan
buildings
code,
section
9-2.20,
clearly
states
that
any
increases
on
residential
densities
or
commercial
acreage
requires
a
policy
decision
that
the
voters
of
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
should
make.
You
city
council,
open
yourselves
up
to
a
class
action
lawsuit.
Should
you
move
forward
without
a
vote
to
the
residents
of
thousand
oaks?
A
survey
of
5
000
residents
is
not
sufficient
code.
N
N
The
city
general
plan
building
codes
is
a
long-term
guide
for
the
orderly
development
of
this
community,
which
plan
should
not
be
subject
to
unreasonable,
build-outs
and
should
not
be
influenced
by
outside
development
pressures.
I
can
provide
all
of
you
with
this
general
plan
code.
N
If
you
haven't
read
it
yourselves
lately
and
as
a
side
note,
I
lived
in
malibu
before
moving
to
newbury
park
10
years
ago
and
survived
the
2007
thanksgiving
fire
that
the
thousands
of
houses
were
destroyed
because
fire
trucks
could
not
come
up
the
canyon,
because
residents
were
fleeing
for
their
lives.
N
Some
car
their
car
tires
were
on
fire,
but
there
was
one
lane,
because
the
city
council
did
not
listen
to
the
residents
of
malibu
and
decided
to
build
a
bridge
and
close
down
one
lane,
and
thus
during
fire
season,
and
thus
the
fire
trucks
could
not
come
up
and
save
the
community
of
el
nino,
our
city
of
thousand
oaks.
This
plan
is
a
disaster.
S
This
is
john
from
teo.
People
love
it
here
because
of
what
our
conejo
founding
fathers
created
in
our
master
plan,
I'm
not
against
different
types
of
housing.
We
already
have
lots
of
apartments
and
condos
and
that's
great,
and
we
could
probably
use
a
couple
more,
but
but
the
state
cannot
force
us
to
change
our
town
or
our
plan.
They
can
try
to
force
us
with
a
mandate
or
legislation,
but
that
is
overreach.
We
would
likely
win
the
argument
in
a
legitimate
court
of
law.
S
Many
say
we
won't
get
government
funding.
If
we
don't
do
it
well,
we
don't
need
any
government
funding
like
welfare.
It
just
makes
us
dependent
on
it
wanting
more.
We
are
better
off
and
stronger
without
it.
Anyone
who
tells
you
different
is
only
telling
you
their
opinion
and
they
have
their
motives.
Don't
forget
elected
officials
work
for
us.
We,
the
people,
some
say
changing.
The
general
plan
is
needed
to
move
our
town
into
the
future.
That
is
just
an
opinion
of
which
many
people
don't
agree.
S
They
say
that
it
won't
cause
that
much
change
because
they
they
promise.
We
won't
really
build
out
to
81
000
units,
but
if
the
general
plan
is
changed
with
these
high
numbers,
there
will
be
developers
and
investors
buying
up
existing
businesses
and
buildings
and
then
replacing
them
with
new
structures
that
will
change
the
thousand
oaks
even
more.
It
will
increase
population,
congestion,
pollution
and
traffic.
S
A
lot
changing
the
general
plan
and
adding
units
is
very
unfair
for
anyone
who
bought
property
here
under
the
old
plan
because
they
bought
and
invested
in
thousand
oaks,
believing
that
these
things
would
not
change,
because
we
have
such
a
good
plan
changing
the
plan.
This
way
is
a
form
of
theft.
It
will
change
the
look
of
thousand
oaks
and
property
values
will
not
increase
as
much
because
of
the
congestion
they
might
even
go
down.
Sometimes.
S
B
E
Hi,
my
name
is
nico
varnica
and
I'm
a
three
decade
thousand
oaks
resident,
adding
thousands
of
units
to
the
city
will
put
pressure
on
our
services
that
we
have
not
experienced
before.
What
you
propose
now
is
to
substantially
increase
the
population
which
will
put
pressure
on
our
roads,
hospitals,
schools
and
other
services
and
eventually
overwhelm
the
city.
E
Trash
is
already
visible
on
the
side
of
roads
and
the
freeways
by
how
much
will
that
increase
when
thousands
of
residents
are
suddenly
added
to
the
city?
Who
will
clean
it
up
and
keep
it
clean
once
peaceful
cities
in
the
valley
are
now
divided
by
the
level
of
danger
its
residents
are
exposed
to
not
too
long
ago.
The
part
of
north
hollywood
between
burbank
and
burbank
and
oxnard
boulevards
had
varying
levels
of
safety,
but
nowadays
burbank
boulevard
is
as
far
north
as
you
want
to
go
now.
How
did
that
happen?
E
E
O
O
O
O
O
O
B
N
N
N
So
excuse
me,
the
additional
housing
that's
in
there.
Also
in
this
new
plan
does
not
guarantee
that
it
in
any
way
it's
going
to
be
affordable.
It
just
means
there
will
be
more
housing
units.
The
most
obvious
problem
with
this
to
me
is
the
height.
N
Now
a
lot
of
people
have
touched
on
that
some
as
high
as
75
feet,
and
I
think
it's
very
important
to
hold
tight
to
that
original
35
foot
high
limit
when,
when
councilman
jones
talked
about
the
dominant
vista
on
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
you
can
forget
about
that.
N
If
you
put
in
all
the
the
high
buildings
and
and
the
density,
it's
it,
they
talk
about
preserving
the
residential
neighborhoods,
but
that's
going
to
affect
us,
even
though
it's
on
teo
boulevard
and
are
and
the
views
as
well,
when
you
pack
it
all
into
that
that
one
area
it
should
be
spread
out
more-
and
I
appreciate
mr
mcnay's
talking
about
the
validity
of
the
survey,
because
I
had
I
questioned
that
too,
and
I
think
part
it's
also
a
bit
misleading.
They
showed
photos
of
buildings.
N
I
think
you
might
have
been
nice
looking,
but
that
didn't
so
maybe
someone
said
yes,
I
like
that
building,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
the
height.
B
D
B
D
D
As
a
high
school
student,
I
went
to
westlake
high
school
every
weekend
or
whenever
my
friends
got
with
turn
16
and
got
their
licenses,
we
never
were
able
to
do
anything
in
thousand
oaks
or
any
or
anything
around
the
area.
There
was
really
nothing
to
do.
D
D
We
see
about
it,
but
we're
getting
to
experience
it
and
same
thing
goes
for
this
generation
coming
up
like
I
wouldn't
want
my
younger
siblings
or
anybody
who
just
got
their
license
to
go
deep
into
los
angeles
and
have
a
horrible
experience
that
will
traumatize
them.
We
need
more
stuff
out
here.
We
need
more
places
open,
more
affordable
housing
for
college
students
for
employees,
for
example,
my
business,
my
parents,
own
businesses
in
the
area
and
all
of
our
employees
have
to
drive
so
far
away
because
they
cannot
afford
anything
in
the
area.
D
I'm
not
the
idea
of
putting
tall
buildings
skyscrapers.
I
don't
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
we're
just
trying
to
get
to
a
place
where
we
add
more
buildings
and
more
affordable
housing
for
a
lot
of
people
and
that
shouldn't
necessarily
really
cause
traffic
or
anything.
It's
just
the
same.
How
it's
been
just
more
stuff
to
do
in
the
area
to
keep
everyone
local
and
keep
the
economy
flowing
and
everything's
safe
by
our
home.
E
Hi
good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
grace
butler,
I'm
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks,
who
is
in
full
support
of
staff
recommendation
for
the
orchard
opportunity
site
for
mixed-use
zoning
mixed-use
zoning
would
provide
our
community
with
many
amenities
that
we
are
desperately
in
need
of,
while
I'm
a
current
student
at
uc
berkeley.
I
recall
feeling
very
disheartened
by
how
limited
activities
were
for
youth
in
our
community
as
high
schoolers.
E
My
friends
and
I
would
have
to
drive
at
least
30
minutes
into
other
cities,
just
to
find
activities
to
keep
us
entertained
on
the
weekends,
putting
men
putting
money
into
other
places.
The
activation
of
the
orchard
property
would
create
opportunities
for
that
revenue
to
stay
within
our
own
community,
in
which
we
love
dearly.
E
Additionally,
I
plan
on
coming
back
to
thousand
oaks
once
I
graduate
from
college,
but
a
concern
of
mine
has
been
the
fact
that
there
is
not
much
to
do,
but
with
an
opportunity
like
this
myself
and
I'm
sure
many
others,
my
own
age
would
be
way
more
inclined
to
come
back.
The
site
would
be
an
asset
to
our
community
as
a
whole,
but
especially
our
youth
and
young
families
in
the
property's
current
state.
It
is
not
doing
anyone
any
good,
however.
E
B
B
All
right,
let's
go
on
to
natalie
curtis
and
see
if
we
can,
in
the
meantime
fix
the
issue
with
chase
butler
natalie
curtis,
followed
by
velino.
B
D
Yes,
I
am
bernina,
I'm
president
of
the
seventh-day
adventist
church
in
southern
california,
and
I
joined
mark
sellers
tom
cohen
and
st
mayor
in
supporting
the
property
that
we
have.
I
represent
the
families
associated
with
the
two
seventh-day
adventist
schools.
Next
to
the
the
village
at
newberry
park
in
the
rancho
conejo
area,
our
church
owns
a
good
sized
vacant
piece
of
land
over
the
hill.
Next
to
our
skulls,
this
is
perfect
to
meet
the
housing
needs.
The
city
is
seeking,
and
also
it's
perfect
to
dis
dissipate.
D
The
concerns
expressed
this
evening
by
several
people,
such
as
heavy
traffic
and
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard
in
high
and
tall
buildings.
Our
land
offers
plenty
of
space
space
and
bring
solution
to
both
groups
with
concerns
and
also
the
the
needs
this
land
easily
may
house,
affordable
housing
and
has
market
housing
as
well.
It's
very
adequate
for
younger
families
who
are
raising
kids
and
also
senior
citizens
who
need
to
change
to
a
smaller
units.
D
Therefore,
I
would
like
to
invite
and
ask
the
gpac
team,
the
planning
commission
members,
the
city
council
members
to
look
at
our
north
campus
as
residential
possibility,
and
I
encourage
to
have
this
flexible
signing
to
accommodate
the
needs
that
we
have
at
this
time.
Thank
you
for
the
time
that
you
allow
us
to
speak.
F
E
Okay,
so
I'm
only
21
years
old,
I
have
lived
most
of
my
life
out
here
in
ventura
county
and
just
my
personal
experience
with
it
is
it's
a
it's
a
great
place
to
live.
It's
treated
me
and
my
family
very,
very
well
over
the
course
of
the
last
few
years
that
we've
been
out
here,
but
some
things
that
have
been
kind
of
on
the
opposite.
End
of
that
is
being
young
and
and
going
out
with.
J
E
J
E
Get
on
the
far
end
of
woodland
hills,
and
I
know
it's
not
ideal
out
there,
but
that's
really
the
only
options,
even
restaurants
out
here
having.
J
Some
more
affordable
restaurants
would
be
kind
of
ideal
for
for
the
younger
generation
and
in
terms
of
building
a
couple
or
one.
E
J
E
B
Thank
you
and
chase
was
actually
our
last
all
right,
and
so
it
is
11
17
and
we
are
going
to
now
back
to
was
it
mr
raymie,
or
was
it
you,
mr
powers?
I
forgot.
R
R
We
thought
it
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
have
mr
ramy
lead
the
council
through
a
brief
discussion
on
the
some
elements
of
the
plan
at
a
high
level,
and
so
I
was
going
to
hand
it
over
to
mr
ramy
staff
will
be
compiling.
Obviously,
with
over
100
speakers.
We
will
provide
some
responses
to
some
of
the
things
brought
up,
but
we'll
do
that
at
the
beginning
of
our
meeting
next
week.
So
with
that
I'll
I'll
hand
it
over
to
matt
remy.
J
Thank
you,
mr
powers.
Good
evening
again,
madam
mayor
and
members
of
the
council,
I
I
want
to
just
take
a
few
minutes
before
we
move
into
the
conversation
to
thank
all
the
members
of
the
community
who
took
the
time
to
come
out
tonight
and
share
their
points
of
view
about
the
general
plan
process
and
the
land
use
map.
J
In
my
opinion,
what
we
heard
tonight
is
a
lot
of
people
who
are
really
passionate
about
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
rightfully
so,
people
who
are
concerned
about
how
the
plan
may
impact
the
city
that
they
love.
We
heard
lots
of
ideas
for
what
the
city
should
look
like
in
the
future,
on
both
those
who
support
some
change
and
those
who
want
to
see
limited
change.
J
What
we
experienced
tonight
with
all
the
comments,
is
really
part
of
the
general
plan
update
process.
It's
really
common.
What
happened
tonight,
which
is
that
there
is
an
outpouring
of
ideas
when
the
city
council
is
considering
something
that
has
not
happened
in
50
years,
and
that
is,
as
is
important
as
what
is
happening,
which
is
a
comprehensive
look
at
the
future
of
the
city.
The
city
council,
as
you
know,
has
a
really
big
task
ahead
and,
as
the
saying
goes,
the
journey
of
a
thousand
miles
begins
with
a
single
step.
J
We
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
commonalities
between
what
council
members
want
to
see
the
desire
to
preserve
existing
neighborhoods,
the
desire
to
have
open
spaces
and
parks,
support
for
biotech
support
for
housing
that
supports
the
local
companies
and
many
more
things,
given
that
we
have
limited
time
this
evening.
What
I
would
like
to
propose
is
that
we
start
with
some
high
level
thoughts
about
the
land
use
map
before
we
dive
into
details.
J
As
as
true
said,
there
were,
as
you
know,
there
were
well
over
a
hundred
comments
and
lots
and
lots
of
ideas
and
and
staff
would
like
some
time
to
assemble
all
those
comments
and
be
able
to
respond
to
those
so
for
tonight.
What
we
in
particular
would
love
to
hear
from
you
and
what
would
be
really
helpful
for
staff
to
start
the
process
is
what
is
it
about
the
land
use
map
that
you've
seen
that
you
like,
and
what
is
it
that
resonates
with
you?
J
Of
course
you
can
provide
any
comments
that
you
want,
but
what
we
really
want
to
do
is
start
with
a
strong
foundation
tonight
with
the
feedback
that
we
get
in
the
limited
time
that
we
have.
So
we
can
really
move
quickly
into
the
decision-making
process
that
we
have
next
week
and
madam
mayor,
if
that's
amenable
to
you,
I
will
maybe
turn
it
over
to
you
so
that
you
can.
J
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
ramy.
Indeed,
I
will
go
to
my
colleagues
in
reverse
order.
You
will
have
five
minutes
to
make
comments
or
ask
questions
that
will
then
be
answered
most
likely
next
week.
When
we
adjourn
to
next
week's
meeting,
I
will
go
with
the
youngest
council
member,
not
by
age
but
in
terms
of
tenure
here
on
the
diocese
and
that
will
will
be
council
member
mcnamee.
L
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
mr
ramey
did
quote
chinese
philosopher
loudzi
that
a
journey
of
a
thousand
miles
begins
with
a
single
step.
This
process
has
been
going
on
for
18
months,
gathering
information
from
the
public
as
to
what
they
would
like
to
have
in
the
general
plan.
In
its
final
form,
this
is
one
of
the
biggest
steps
that
we've
taken
to
date.
L
Staff
has
done
a
great
job
up
to
this
point,
trying
to
balance
everything
from
our
open
spaces
to
adequate
housing,
public
safety
traffic
so
forth.
It's
not
done
yet,
and
I'd
like
to
emphasize
that
to
the
public
that
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
the
journey
which
has
already
been
underway
for
18
months.
L
It
will
come
back
to
council
over
the
next
several
months.
We
need
to
get
it
done
by
january.
If
my
understanding
is
correct,
state
again
is
mandating
all
cities
in
california
to
do
such
general
plans
and
also
set
aside
a
certain
amount
of
housing
through
the
regional
housing
assessment.
We
have
again
a
2600
number
that
we
need
to
make
available
over
the
next
eight
years.
L
If
we
don't
accomplish
that
goal
by
january,
we
could
be
facing
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
month.
Fine
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
city
manager
may
correct
me
on
that,
but
that's
my
understanding
and
that
would
be
money
away
from
our
libraries,
our
potholes,
our
street
lights,
our
wonderful
parks
and
those
things
we
really
enjoy
here
in
thousand
oaks.
My
hats
off
and
applaud
the
city
staff
for
doing
a
terrific
job.
Getting
it
to
this
point.
L
L
So
I
look
forward
to
the
next
several
months
as
we
make
through
this
project
and
get
this
finally
to
final
form
in
january,
and
I
thank
all
the
participants
this
evening
who,
either
through
email
public
comment
so
forth
for
their
input,
and
I
have
learned
a
lot
I've
given
you
some
things
to
consider
and
I'm
sure
my
other
council
members
have
done
the
same.
So
with
that
again,
another
step
in
this
journey
of
a
thousand
miles
begins.
L
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
jones,.
F
F
F
I'm
I'm
more
thinking
about
things
to
avoid,
although
at
the
end,
these
village
centers
the
idea
kind
of
appeals
to
me,
because
I
think
if
we
were
to
pursue
that,
there's
the
possibility
that
we
could
have
the
added
population
and
be
in
places
where
the
amenities
are
already
there
a
lot
of
the
things
that
people
would
need.
I
don't
I
don't
picture
it
exactly
particularly
a
large
shopping
centers
such
as
the
one
alluded
to
at
herbs
and
arvolus,
and
we
talked
earlier.
F
I
talked
to
staff
about
the
one
that
more
park,
road
and
arbor
was,
and
I
was
trying
to
envision
exactly
what
initiating
the
fudge
setters
in
in
these
places,
how
that
would
be
done,
but
I
do
I
do
think,
that's
something
I
would
be
interested
in.
F
I
I
I
feel
that
the
75
feet
high
buildings
are
too
high.
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
anything
close
to
that
height
and
I
think
we
ought
to
leave
the
current
densities
alone.
F
I
think
you
know
I
don't.
I
don't
believe
we
do
everything
50
years
ago,
but
I
liked
the
standards
we
had.
Then
I
think
that's
the
standards
of
a
city
that
I'd
like
to
live
in.
I
I
don't,
I
think
50
going
units
per
acre
is
too
high
and
I'd
like
to
keep
the
standards
pretty
well
the
way
they
were
at
that
time
and
some
of
these
new
categories.
F
F
K
K
K
K
You
know
when
you,
I
drove
the
whole
breadth
and
width
of
the
area,
that's
talking
about
being
revitalized,
and
we
do
have
some
areas
in
town
that
need
to
be
revitalized.
There's
a
raw
center
over
there,
that's
half
vacant.
K
These
are
areas
that
we
need
to
look
at
that
we
need
to
take
a
different
view
of,
and
I
think
the
mixed
use
designation
could
help
areas
like
this.
So
I
do
like
the
neighborhood
center
idea.
As
far
as
the
malls
go
absolutely,
we
need
to
concentrate
on
the
jans
and
oaks
mall,
there's
malls
all
over
the
country
that
are
failing.
K
I
think
we're
fortunate
that
our
malls
are
still
viable,
but
they
will
not
be
if
we
don't
do
something
about
it
and
with
the
designation
that
we're
calling
for
here,
it
gives
them
an
opportunity
to
really
reinvent
themselves.
Repurpose
themselves
bring
in
some
housing
bring
in
maybe
a
hotel,
whatever
it
happens
to
be,
but
the
current
model
is
not
going
to
work
in
the
long
run,
and
these
malls
are
very
important
to
the
city
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
77
percent
of
the
residents
say
they
want
to
see
mixed
use
on
the
boulevard.
K
I've
been
here
for
eight
years
and
in
that
time
period
I've
seen
two
projects
going
on
the
boulevard
for
a
total
of
about
175
units.
So
the
progress
has
been
very
slow
and
it
will
continue
to
be
slow.
You
know
property
owners
just
don't
build
overnight,
but
I
think
we
need
need
to
give
the
boulevard
the
opportunity
to
reinvent
itself
as
well
bring
some
people
there.
Let
some
people
live
on
the
boulevard.
I've
been
told
by
so
many
businesses,
including
amgen.
K
We
need
a
downtown
to
attract
young
people
to
attract
all
kinds
of
people,
and
these
employers
here
in
town
need
that
need
that
downtown
to
recruit
and
retain
employees
with,
and
we
can
create
that
on
the
boulevard.
K
I
like
the
idea
of
the
borchard
site.
I
think
it's
been
called
an
opportunity
site
and
it
really
there
really
is
an
opportunity
there.
There
is
a
big
opportunity
there.
I've
heard
for
years.
Newbury
park
is
underserved
and
we
don't
do
enough
for
newbury
park.
Here's
an
opportunity
where,
with
a
creative
approach,
that
site
could
become
a
real
asset
to
the
community
with
the
open
spaces
as
a
buffer
around
it
to
create
a
buffer
with
the
neighbors.
K
I
think
that
some
of
the
ideas
I've
heard
for
that
property
could
be
really
excellent
and
I
think
it's
just
been
vacant
too
long,
it's
time
to
take
a
good
look
at
the
virtual
property.
So
those
are
the
kind
some
of
the
things
I
like
and
I'm
sure
there's
we're
going
to
have
to
go
into
a
little
more
depth
because
there's
a
lot
more
to
it
than
just
those
four
things,
but
those
are
the
four
biggest
ones
I
heard
and
next
week
we'll
do
just
that.
Thanks
mayor.
B
Thank
you
and
mayor
pretend
bob
engler.
G
G
The
survey
people
were
talking
about
the
survey
just
a
reminder
that
is
just
one
more
data
point
that
we're
going
to
use
for
moving
forward,
we're
not
going
to
be
locked
into
lockstep
on
any
anything
that
we
have
heard
or
seen
in
that
survey.
So
it's
only
one
part
of
what
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
kind
of
global
ideas
about
the
presentation
so
far,
I
am,
I
think,
to
give
flexibility
into
the
future.
G
The
mixed
use
concept
is
is
really
where
we
need
to
be
on
just
about
all
of
the
things
we
do
that
mixed-use
concept
allows
us
into
the
future
a
future
that
none
of
us
know
to
be
able
to
give
us
some
ability
to
react
to
different
conditions
down
the
line.
So
the
flex
use
approach,
I
think,
is
a
very
good
approach
for
us
to
to
put
into
our
general
plan
that
flex
use
will
not
affect
our
current
neighborhoods,
but
it
will
give
us
the
ability
to
react
in
the
future.
G
G
Affordability
is
one
of
the
issues
that
we
need
to
address,
and
I
think
we
can
perhaps
address
that
in
a
inclusionary
policy
attached
to
the
general
plan,
but
the
the
other.
The
other
thing
that
I
really
would
like
to
emphasize
here
is
the
general
plan
I
think,
gives
us
a
defense
against
future
actions
by
the
state.
In
other
words,
we'll
have
a
position
set
out
locked
into
our
general
plan.
Some
people
say
we
need
to
just
go
to
the
this
one
arena
cycle.
G
I,
the
state,
will
do
what
the
state
does
and
that's
that's
something
we
have
to
be
aware
of
the
other.
The
other
thing
about
the
state
the
state
is
asking
us
to
put
more
housing
in,
and
I
think
overall
tonight
most
people
recognize
even
people
who
are
against
the
general
plan
recognize
the
need
for
more
housing
to
service
our
growing
biotech
sector.
I
did
talk
to
atara
the
other
day.
G
They've
lost
three
people
in
the
last
several
weeks
to
other
companies
out
of
state
because
they
the
candidates
come
here
and
they
lose
out
because
they
look
at
our
housing
and
say
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
go
to
austin,
I'm
gonna
go
to
raleigh,
durham,
we're
in
competition
nationally
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
compete
with
our
biotech
sector.
So
those
are
the
things
that
I
like
about
the
plan.
G
B
Thank
you,
and
I
believe
that
leaves
me
with
the
with
about
five
minutes.
I
try
not
to
take
all
of
it.
This
was
wonderful
information,
good
information,
a
lot
of
passion
and
also
a
lot
of
feedback
from
employers
who
are
asking
us
to
provide
more
housing
in
addition
to
the
to
sacramento,
the
state
of
california.
B
The
potential
that
I
see
is
that
we
will
be
able
to
fulfill
housing
needs
and
will
be
able
to
help
thousand
oaks
change
for
the
better.
Now,
how
quickly
do
we
do
this,
and
how
much
do
we
do
at
the
beginning?
Thousand
oaks
has
traditionally
been
very
slow
growth
about
what
120
so
units
built
per
year.
That
is
really
really
slow
growth.
B
Now
we're
looking
at
more
than
2
600
units
that
the
state
is
asking
us
to
make
room,
for
that
is
quite
a
change
when
you're
used
to
having
just
a
hundred
units
per
year.
All
of
a
sudden,
you
need
to
make
room
for
more
than
well
actually
much
more
than
3
000
units
to
satisfy
hcd,
the
housing
and
community
department,
and
so
the
the
way.
B
What
what
I
am
taking
away
from
from
the
discussion
tonight,
from
the
hundreds
of
emails
and
from
watching
the
gpac
meetings
and
planning
commission
meetings
is
that
we
will
comply
with
the
housing
element.
We
will
find
room
for
thousands
more
units
in
thousand
oaks,
but
we
will
not
really
make
the
75
foot
tall
buildings
a
standard
fare
in
thousand
oaks.
We
have
existing
buildings
that
are
not
quite
as
high,
but
are
in
around
60
feet.
We
have
the
hyatt
hotel.
B
But
what
I
would
really
recommend
is
the
commercial
regional
which
does
suggest
75
foot
tall
buildings
along
the
101
freeway
newberry
park
really
should
not
be
used.
In
fact,
I
would
like
to
eliminate
commercial
regional
altogether.
I
would
also
like
to
maintain
the
current
designations
land
use
designations
that
we
have.
B
I
heard
earlier
this
evening.
Why
not
come
up
with
mixed-use
neighborhood
makes
perfect
sense.
I'm
looking
at
the
school
map
from
the
school
district.
We
all
know
our
school
district
is
hurting
low
in
enrollment,
and
additional
population
and
families
and
thousand
oaks
will
help,
will
help
the
district
with
enrollment,
and
so
these
village
centers
are
actually
near
many
of
the
schools.
B
So
to
me,
it
makes
perfect
sense
to
provide
more
village
centers
than
just
the
two
big
ones
and
designate
them
for
commercial
residential
and
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
lose
their
viability
as
a
shopping
center,
but
also
will
help
with
the
the
synergy
by
adding
residential
and
that
in
turn,
will
help
also
with
enrollment
in
our
in
our
school
district.
Now
the
seventh-day
adventist
parcel
that
was
mentioned
earlier
in
the
evening.
B
I
I
would
love
for
it
to
remain
residential.
The
only
issue
I
have
with
that
is
that
is
nowhere
near
a
public
school.
You
have
to
cross
the
freeway
in
order
to
get
to
earth's
or
another
school
or
newbury
park
high
school.
So
it
has
a
private
school
there,
but
not
neces,
but
not
a
public
school.
However,
residential
would
provide
housing
right
next
to
the
biotech
industry,
which
is
seeking
a
lot
more
units.
B
So
I
I
think
that
parcel
should
be
considered
or
actually
be
returned
to
to
residential,
also
the
parcel
right
across
the
imt
kmart,
which
is
currently
being
proposed
with
420
units
that
should
be
switched
back
to
industrial
flex,
not
to
mixed
use
because
of
the
immense
traffic
that
that
corner
will
have,
and
I
would
like
for
a
staff
to
look
at
the
office
buildings.
B
Office
parks
currently
almost
empty,
see
how
we
can
repurpose
those
and
with
that
my
time
is
up,
and
those
are
just
some
thoughts
that
I'd
like
for
staff
to
chew,
on
not
only
mine
but
those
of
my
four
colleagues
as
well,
in
preparation
for
next
tuesday.
B
So
it
is
now
20
minutes
before
midnight,
we've
given
staff
and
mr
ramey
and
associates
some
food
for
thought.
I
believe
that
there
is
no
more
comment
from
there
is
okay,
mr
mr
powers.
Thank.
R
You
so
much,
madam
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
end
by
thanking
the
community
thanking
the
city
council.
It's
been
a
long
evening,
but
we
knew
that
would
be
the
case.
That's
how
this
is
my
third
general
plan
going
through
this
and
it's
as
matt
rami
mentioned.
This
is
very
common
as
we
prepare
for
next
week.
I
just
I
wanted
to
build
on
council
member
mcnamee's
comment,
because
it
was
a
good
one.
There's
a
reason
that
we're
on
the
time
frame
that
we're.
A
R
And
staff
began
the
work
on
this
several
years
ago,
and
council
will
greenlit
this
process
in
order
to
ensure
that
we
would
be
meeting
those
timelines.
There
are
consequences
as
councilmember
mcnamee
mentioned
and
a
whole
variety
of
those.
I
won't
go
into
them
right
now,
but
missing
deadlines
has
real
consequences.
Things
like
going
on.
Instead
of
an
eight
year
arena
cycle,
you
can
be
punished
and
put
on
a
four-year
renew
cycle,
so
you're
doing
this
every
four
years.
R
We
don't
want
to
be
in
that
position,
and
so,
thankfully
our
team
has
gotten
us
to
the
place
where
we
are
today
and-
and
there
are
more
steps
to
come.
The
decision
you're
going
to
make
next
week
is
a
decision
on
the
land
use
map.
That
then
goes
to
an
environmental
analysis,
traffic
and
circulation
analysis,
first
submittal
to
hcd,
so
on
and
so
forth.
R
Eventually
coming
back
to
the
city
council
in
in
various
forms,
so
just
wanted
to
mention
that
both
for
the
community
and
for
the
council
as
a
reminder,
it
also
can
get
confusing.
This
is
part
of
the
general
plan
that
hasn't
been
updated
in
many
years
as
we've
talked
about,
but
we
also
have
a
housing
element
and
that
housing
online
has
a
cycle
attached
to
it.
So
not
everything.
That's
in
this
land
use
map
is
going
to
be
part
of
that
housing
element
cycle,
and
so
it's
just
important
to
know.
They
are
two
distinct
things.
R
B
Thank
you,
mr
powers.
Indeed,
this
has
been
quite
a
herculean
effort
for
the
last
18
plus
months
and
so
we're
almost
across
the
finish
line
with
with
this
one,
and
just
so
that
I
make
myself
clear,
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
meeting
just
the
first
housing
element
goals
and
then
take
time
to
go
over
the
rest,
the
the
the
future
years.
After
that.
That
said,
I
think
we
are
good
to
go.
I
wish
everybody
a
good
night.
It's
almost
good.
B
So
the
motion
that
I'm
seeking
is
that
this
matter
will
be
continued
and
the
special
meeting
will
be
adjourned
to
next
tuesday
may
25th
at
six
o'clock
and
council
member
mcnamee.
You
wanted
to
make
that
motion.