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From YouTube: Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting | January 25, 2022
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Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting 1/25/22
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Yes,
thank
you
so
much,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
to
the
city
council,
the
members
and
the
staff
for
inviting
us
to
participate
this
evening.
I
would
like
to
introduce
my
colleague
vice
president
of
academic
affairs,
mary
reese,
as
well
as
my
colleague,
dr
jennifer
clark,
who
is
the
vice
president
of
business
for
our
institution.
E
Mobile
college.
Is
your
community
college
and
not
only
are
we
your
hometown
community
college,
but
you
have
to
be
proud
of
us.
You
have
a
distinguished
community
college
in
your
community
and
we
not
only
serve
you
with
distinction,
but
the
rest
of
the
world
knows
it.
We
are
an
aspen
prize
top
115
institution
which
is
very
similar
to
to
being
a
nominated
for
the
oscars.
We've
been
voted
best
community
college
in
california.
E
E
So
you
thousand
oaks
you
conejo
valley,
have
a
community
college
that
you
should
be
proud
of.
Our
goal
is
to
continue
to
serve
you
with
equity,
with
justice,
knowing
that
you
have
a
diverse
community
and
that
we
support
the
work
that
you
do
to
ensure
that
there's
a
strong
quality
of
life
and
we
promote
economic
vitality.
E
It
is
so
important
for
us
at
mohawk
college
that
you
know
that
we
share
your
values.
We
focus
on
making
sure
that
all
students
who
come
to
us
from
from
our
from
our
serving
communities
get
access
to
education
that
prepares
them
for
high
demand,
high
skill,
high
wage
jobs.
We
also
provide
unique
opportunities
for
the
future
of
our
workforce.
E
We
also
help
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
strong
quality
of
life
in
our
community,
because
our
students,
your
children,
participate
and
come
to
america's
teaching
zoo
on
our
on
a
college
campus,
both
our
high
school
and
our
and
our
elementary
school
students
do
that,
but
also
to
our
senior
citizens.
We
also
have
an
excellent
partnership
with
the
school
district
in
offering
dual
enrollment
courses
that
prepare
our
young
adults
and
our
young
students
for
high
skill
high-wage
careers.
E
We
continue
to
do
the
work
of
making
sure
that
we
have
high
quality,
cultural
and
assisted
programs
which
aligns
with
the
mission
of
of
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
the
communities
that
that
you
serve
and
athletic
programs
that
are
available
year
round
are
opportunities
for
our
students
to
increase
their
capacity
for
success
in
life.
I
will
have
my
my
colleague
vice
president
rhys
talk
to
you
about
the
stories
of
some
of
our
students.
Next.
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F
Other
of
our
students
are
interested
in
transfer,
so
we
can
see
here
we
have
some
just
some
pictures
and
of
some
of
the
type
of
students
that
we
have
a
wide
variety,
because
everyone
has
their
individual
students.
Their
individual
needs
individual
stories
returning
students
single
mothers
career.
We
have
a
big
focus
on
our
career
education
as
well
as
our
transfer.
As
dr
silken
mentioned,
we
are
one
of
the
highest
transfer
in
community
colleges
in
the
state,
but
we
also
really
pride
ourselves
on
the
value
of
career
education.
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I
think,
and
then
there
you
go
they're
talking
about
some
of
the
programs,
and
I
know
that's
one
of
the
big
things
that
you're
particularly
interested
in
tonight
is
to
find
out
that
some
of
our
programs
are
two
semesters.
Some
of
them
are
two
years.
We
offer
programs
in
data
science,
cyber
security,
biotechnology
working
with
students
that
are
young
18
to
30
for
most
of
our
students,
but
we
really
are
anxious
to
prepare
them
for
well
good
playing
jobs,
particularly
we
offer
such
programs,
such
as
in
nursing
and
computer
network
systems
engineering.
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F
We
also
work
very
hard
with
trying
to
say
passages
and
helping
students
in
middle
school
commit
to
college
understand
that
they
can
be
college
students
and
get
the
background
and
the
success
tools
that
they
need
in
order
to
get
from
middle
school
high
school
on
to
college,
and
that
we
have
real,
extensive
dual
enrollment
programs
with
a
thousand
oaks
and
neighboring
high
schools.
As
part
of
our
pipeline
for
our
programs.
H
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This
is
all
of
these
for
all
of
these
programs
here
that
we
are
highlighting,
are
a
result
of
the
federal
stimulus
money,
the
the
pandemic.
You
know
we
taxpayers,
you
know
were
able
to
receive
it.
You
know,
depending
on
you
know
our
income
and
our
own
situations.
We
were
able
to
receive
sort
of
tax
or
rebate
or
incentive
money
for
sorry
stimulus
money
from
the
federal
government.
This
is
the
equivalent
for
students.
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So
in
the
last
semester
we
were
able
to
basically
run
a
program
that
incentivized
our
students
to
get
vaccinated.
That
was
the
100
of
the
bookstores
that
was
good
for
six
months
for
them
to
spend.
We
had
an
805
return
to
the
805
program
to
really
try
to
re-engage
students
that
had
been
with
us
in
previous
semesters,
but
since
the
pandemic
have
not
re-engaged
with
us
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
and
so
we
were
running
a
special
program
for
those
students
to
really
try
and
re-engage
them.
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We
engaged
them
with
the
college.
This
semester
we're
very
pleased
to
be
able
to
offer
the
thousand
dollar
incentive
program
to
all
of
our
students
who
carry
six
or
more
units.
So
there
is
no
application
process.
They
do
not
need
to.
Students
do
not
need
to
apply
necessarily
for
financial
aid
at
all.
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F
In
fact,
in
march,
we're
going
to
have
a
career
education
week
where
we're
going
to
have
open
house
so
that
people
can
come
in
and
tour
our
biotech
facilities,
that's
going
to
be
march
9th
from
5
to
7
pm,
and
then,
after
that,
we
have
our
biotech
advisory
board.
We
work
with
our
local
industry
leaders
to
make
sure
that
our
biotech
program
is
well
designed
and
provides
the
right
skill
set
to
meet
the
needs
of
each
of
the
different
biotech
programs
in
the
area.
F
We
provide
internships
into
local
biotech
programs
and
work
with
many
of
the
starter
incubators
to
help
them
some
of
them
even
start
on
our
campus,
using
our
biotech
hoods.
As
I
mentioned,
we
work
extensively
with
industry
partners
in
our
advisory
boards
so
that
we
identify
what
curriculum
is
necessary
and
what
skills
that
they
want
to
find
out.
We've
recently
applied
to
offer
a
bachelor's
program
and
we
will
determine
whether
the
state
will
allow
us
to
do
that,
but
we
currently
offer
certificates
in
biomanufacturing
and
quality
control.
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The
biotech
program
at
moorpark
college
started
way
back
in
the
90s
when
a
local
biotech
company
wanted
to
get
trained
personnel
for
their
new
manufacturing
plan.
So
they
came
to
moorpark
college
to
develop
a
program.
So
moorpark
college
went
out
and
hired
professor
harrigan.
She
set
up
a
an
advisory
committee
with
the
two
big
local
biotech
companies
and
with
their
help,
she
set
up
a
program
that
really
meets
the
needs
of
the
local
industry.
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C
Well,
thank
you,
dr
sokonu.
I
appreciate
you
coming
by
and
showing
everybody
what's
going
on
over
at
just
over
the
hill
there
in
moorpark
and
how
you
are
supporting
our
own
biotech
sector
over
here
in
thousand
oaks.
I
don't
know
whether
you
know
or
not,
but
there
are
three
either
present
or
former
college
professors
on
the
diocese
here,
one
two,
two
in
the
community
education
for
careers
at
at
junior
colleges
or
at
community
college,
and
then
one
who
still
is
a
professor
at
cal
state.
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F
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
angler
council
members
and
members
of
the
public
on
behalf
of
the
thousand
oaks
library.
I'm
pleased
to
announce
the
2022
one
city.
One
book
selection
thousand
oaks
reads:
one
city:
one
book
is
a
city-wide
literary
event,
encouraging
community
members
to
read
and
discuss
the
same
book.
A
celebration
of
the
selected
book
includes
discussion
groups
and
programs
culminating
in
an
author
event
held
during
national
library
week
in
april.
Some
of
the
goals
of
the
program
are
to
celebrate.
F
F
The
memory
follows
kareem
rosser,
who
was
born
and
raised
in
west
philadelphia
and
thought
he
and
his
siblings
would
always
be
stuck
in
the
neighborhood
called
the
bottom,
a
community
devastated
by
poverty
and
violence
riding
their
bicycles
through
philadelphia's
fairmont
park.
Kareem's
brothers
discovered
a
barn
full
of
horses
noticing
the
brothers
fascination
with
her
misfit
animals.
Leslie
heiner,
founder
of
the
work
to
ride
stables,
offers
them
their
escape
an
after-school
job
in
exchange
for
riding
lessons.
F
What
starts
as
an
accidental
discovery,
turns
into
a
love
for
horseback
riding
that
leads
the
rosters
to
discovering
their
passion
for
polo.
Pursuing
the
sport
with
determination
and
discipline.
Kareem
earns
his
place
among
the
typically
exclusive
players
in
college
becoming
part
of
the
first
all-black
national
interscholastic
polo
championship
team.
All
while
struggling
to
keep
his
family
together
crossing
the
line
is
the
story
of
bonds
of
brotherhood,
family
loyalty,
the
transformative
connection
between
man
and
horse
and
forging
a
better
future
that
comes
from
overcoming
impossible
odds.
F
We
are
thrilled
to
be
able
to
announce
this
year's
selection
and
invite
the
public
to
attend
the
one
city,
one
book
author
event
an
afternoon
with
kareem
roster
on
sunday
april
3rd
at
the
bank
of
america
performing
arts
center
cavali
theater.
The
event
will
also
be
broadcast
on
the
city's
youtube
station
thousand
oaks
reads
is
sponsored
by
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
the
friends
of
the
thousand
oaks
library
and
the
committee
is
comprised
of
thousand
oaks
library
and
staff
members
and
members
of
the
public.
F
C
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D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
apologize
for
that.
This
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments.
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
Four
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
and
pursuant
to
council
standards.
Speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
D
F
Good
evening,
mayor
angler
and
members
of
the
city
council,
I
am
randy
guthrie,
vice
president
of
government
affairs
for
athens
services,
it's
great
to
speak
with
you
again
to
provide
a
brief
update
on
our
service
transition,
as
athens
provides
recycling
and
waste
hauling
services
for
more
than
39
000,
residential
and
commercial
customers.
Here
in
the
city,
as
you
know,
we
began
our
transition
on
january
1st,
we're
delighted
to
say
that
the
transition
continues
to
go
very
smoothly.
F
F
F
As
you
know,
one
of
our
major
projects
right
now
is
the
replacement
of
all
waste
containers
for
residential
and
commercial
customers.
A
total
of
one
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
I'm
pleased
to
report
that
this
process
has
been
going
smoothly
as
well.
To
date,
we
have
delivered
twenty
three
thousand
two
hundred
and
five
residential
containers
and
one
thousand
seven
forty
commercial
containers.
F
We
are
also
picking
up
the
old
containers
within
48
hours,
as
we've
informed
our
customers.
It's
been
our
goal
to
have
all
130
000
containers
replaced
by
the
end
of
march.
We
are
on
or
ahead
of
schedule
at
this
point,
just
as
a
reminder,
all
customers
receive
a
letter
from
us
the
week
in
advance
telling
them
when
to
expect
their
new
containers,
which
will
take
place
the
day
before
their
regular
service
day.
F
F
Finally,
I
wanted
to
add
that
we
are
especially
proud
to
be
partnering
with
the
city
to
make
thousand
oaks
one
of
the
first
communities,
if
not
the
first
community
in
ventura
county,
to
be
fully
compliant
with
a
new
state
law
on
organics
recovery
sb1383,
we
are
bringing
food
waste
to
our
licensed
facility,
where
it's
being
converted
into
compost
and
other
organic
material
and
returned
to
the
community.
Rather
than
going
to
a
landfill.
F
A
lot
more
information
is
available
at
our
thousand
oaks
website.
Athens
thousand
oaks
dot
com
customers
can
call
our
custom,
our
local
customer
service
number
or
visit
our
sustainability
center
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
Our
entire
team
remains
very
excited
to
be
serving
the
community
of
thousand
oaks.
Thank
you.
C
O
Thank
you,
mayor,
hi,
randy,
hey,
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
organics
program
is
actually
pretty
easy,
we're
we're
doing
it
in
our
household.
We
have
a
little
plastic
bin
that
we
clipped
onto
our
trash
can
and
we
put
the
organics
waste
in
there
and
you
just
dump
it
right
into
the
green
waste
container,
and
you
know
it'll
go
a
long
way
to
cutting
that
methane
out
of
the
landfills
that
creates
those
greenhouse
gases
that
that
we
don't
want
and
rodney.
O
F
O
F
I
Thank
you
thank
you
mayor
and,
by
the
way
you
qualified
too,
as
well
matt,
mayor
ronnie.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I've
got
two
questions
for
you.
I've
noticed
driving
around
the
city
that
some
of
the
commercial
bins
for
your
company
are
out
in
front
or
near
the
ones
by
the
previous
hauler
waste
management.
I
I
Thanks
those
along
the
commercial
lines
which
the
bins
tend
to
be
rather
large
as
compared
to
the
residential
ones.
Second,
could
you
please
elaborate
a
little
bit
more.
I've
got
received
a
lot
of
requests
about
clarification
that
if
the
lid
is
not
down
completely
there'll,
be
a
25
fine.
Could
you
go
in
a
little
bit
about
your
company
policy
and
how
you
handle
that
and
is
it
automatic
or
is
it
one
where
after
counseling
and
so
forth,
then
they'll
you'll
look
at
finding?
F
Yeah,
of
course-
and
we
we
discussed
this
at
the
last
meeting
as
well
and
have
a
lot
of
information
both
on
our
website
and
the
city's
website.
But
no
that
is
not
a
policy
of
ours
to
go
around
and
you
know
not
pick
up
trash
or
find
you.
If
your
lid
is,
you
know
open
every
now
and
again,
it's
you
know,
actually
a
city
ordinance.
I
think
most
cities
have
an
ordinance,
obviously
to
keep
the
cities
clean
and
to
keep.
You
know,
birds
and
rodents
and
things
out
of
our
trash.
F
That's
really
the
primary
reason
for
such
rules
to
even
be
in
place,
but
certainly
if
a
resident
continually
has
you
know,
overflowing
trash
barrels,
we
would
reach
out
to
them
and
talk
to
them
about
it,
see
if
we
might
need
to,
they
might
need
an
extra
barrel
or
is
there
something
that
we
can
do
to
help
the
problem
before
we
would
ever?
You
know,
you
know,
get
to
any
sort
of
fine,
and
that
would
be
a
process.
We
would
really
talk
to
the
city
about
before.
I
F
I
C
L
Thank
you,
mayor
engler.
I
appreciate
that
very
much
and
since
we
do
have
mrs
guthrie
with
us
this
evening,
I
wanted
to
also
mention
that
the
organic
waste
is
so
wonderful
and
it
is
so
long
overdue.
Other
countries
have
been
doing
this
for
way
longer
than
we
have.
We
are
really
behind
in
terms
of
the
organic
waste.
So
I'm
glad
that
it's
finally
happening
in
california.
L
That
said,
I
continue
to
receive
complaints
or
concerns
that
I
forward
to
randy,
guthrie
and
randy.
You've
been
phenomenal
in
responding
to
everything
that
I've
been
sending
you,
and
I
do.
Let
people
know
that
it's
only
about
five
percent
of
ratepayers
that
are
experiencing
issues
with
either
their
bill
or
their
service,
and
they
say
to
me
it's
impossible
everything
we
read
on
next
door.
F
Yes,
thank
you
councilmember
it.
It
really
is
a
very,
very
smooth
transition
and,
of
course,
you
know,
they're
they're,
like
with
anything
new
with
any
change,
there's
going
to
be
some
questions
and
concerns,
but,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
been
able
to
address
over
98
of
any
issues
that
do
arise
within
24
hours.
We
have
been
incredibly
responsive
to
any
concerns
that
come
our
way
and
it
is
a
very.
As
I
mentioned,
our
service.
F
C
B
D
P
California,
long
time
resident,
long-time
business
owner
and
hey
go
rant
right.
Do
I
hear
a
who
day,
whatever
all
right,
just
checking
to
see?
If
you
can
hear
me-
and
I
welcome
any
comments
from
anybody
on
the
panel,
because
you
never
have
called
me
and
you
never
never,
never,
never
addressed
my
problems
with
traffic.
P
I
live
on
one
road
and
recently
I
went
to
the
traffic
commission
meeting
which
they
hold
about
instead
of
12
they
hold
about
four
a
year
in
this
year
or
this
month
in
january
they
didn't
even
have
the
police
there,
the
police
sergeant
for
traffic,
I'm
trying
to
get
something
done
here
on
lynn
road,
because
we
have
racing.
We
have
tuner
cars,
which
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
into
car
culture.
P
P
It's
interesting
that
you're
getting
ready
to
go
ahead
and
start
a
new
housing
development
agenda
tonight
and
I'll
try
to
keep
this
short.
But
if
you
look
at
the
old
agenda
thousand
oaks
boulevard
is
supposed
to
start
it
growing
you'll
at
the
heliport
and
look
at
the
traffic
impact
once
it
got
going.
You
keep
building
and
building,
and
you
know
I
thought
I
had
it
made
because
I
live
here
on
lynn
and
chance.
P
Q
Q
Although
trash
service
isn't
typically
something
one
spends
much
time.
Thinking
about
the
recent
transition
brings
it
more
into
focus,
I
have
to
say
I've
been
impressed
with
what
I've
seen
for
the
of
the
new
service
so
far
as
for
the
bumps
and
the
roads
that
were
mentioned,
I
haven't
experienced
any
of
that
and,
as
far
as
I
know,
none
of
my
neighbors
or
friends
have
either
from
the
presence
and
involvement
in
the
community
to
educating
residents
on
the
new
environmental
requirements
to
prompt
customer
service
and
a
seemingly
genuine
desire
to
get
it
right.
Q
B
R
Thanks
yeah,
so
the
new
waste
hauler
agreement
only
applies
to
the
incorporated
boundaries
of
the
city
of
thousand
dogs.
Portions
of
blinn
ranch
may
be
included
in
that
they're.
I
think
when
people
refer
to
lynn
ranch,
sometimes
those
boundaries
are
broader
than
just
the
unincorporated
boundaries
of
lead
ranch
when
they're
referring
to
their
physical
designation.
So
any
incorporated
boundary
is
part
of
our
waste
hall
agreement.
Anything
that's
in
the
county.
Unincorporated
area
is
under
a
contract
with
the
county
of
ventura.
R
And
just
to
follow
up
as
it's,
I
think
it's
important,
oh
wonderful,
but
mrs
barton
made
mention
to
not
having
correspondence
or
not
receiving
any
feed
feedback.
Staff
from
various
departments
is
in
almost
weekly
correspondence.
At
times
with
mrs
martin,
our
police
chief
jeremy,
paris,
is
in
regular
dialogue
with
with
her
public
works.
Teams
have
spoken
at
length
with
her
in
the
past,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
was
clear.
Regular
dialogue
with
that
particular
resident
on
a
long.
R
D
P
M
O
P
P
P
Oh
good
good
because
I
wasn't
quite
getting
the
instructions
here.
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment.
A
positive
comment
about
the
proposal
to
lease
the
cameron
center
to
the
park
rangers
at
costco.
I
live
right
on
the
corner
of
green
meadow
and
yellowstone
avenue,
and
we
do
have
a
homeless
problem
up
here.
P
We
also
have
we
have
a
lot
of
coyotes
lately,
but
having
having
koska
here,
I
think,
would
be
a
benefit
for
the
neighbors
in
the
neighborhood
for
one
thing,
because
it
would
alleviate
some
of
the
traffic
that
we
get
for
the
summer
school
and
also,
I
think,
for
the
city.
It's
a
win-win,
because
you're
going
to
have
the
place
least
for
the
next
five
years,
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
idea
for
this
neighborhood
and-
and
I
would
say
most
of
the
neighbors
in
lynn.
P
Oaks
are
absolutely
in
favor
of
it
and
I
just
wanted
to
support
these
guys
and
the
women
that
work
at
costco
they've
been
out
here,
doing
some
things
at
the
cameron
center
and
in
our
neighborhood
and
they're.
Absolutely
amazing
people
and
I
do
hope
that
they
get
to
lease
the
cameron
center
can't
wait
to
have
ms
neighbors.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
C
C
C
C
I
B
Hi
good
evening,
everybody
thanks
for
having
me,
you
know
we're
always
complaining
to
you,
council
members
about
one
thing
or
another,
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
say
something
nice
about
you
and
the
staff
of
the
city.
I
am
a
neighbor
who
backs
up
to
the
cameron
center.
It's
the
first
time.
I've
personally
been
impacted
by
a
major
change
in
a
city
structure
and
how
it
would
impact
my
life.
B
We've
had
a
meeting
with
them.
Those
of
us
impacted.
There
are
really
three
homes
directly
impacted,
they
couldn't
have
been
nicer,
they
couldn't
have
been
more
available,
and
I
want
to
thank
particularly
brian
stark.
I
want
to
thank
particularly
claudia
bill
de
la
pena
for
her
representation
of
the
city,
and
I
want
to
thank
personally
christy.
B
L
B
Not
only
have
we
had
verbal
conversation
with
brian
and
the
conservancy
open
space
conservancy,
but
we
have
had
face
to
face.
The
whole
thing
has
been
a
wonderful
experience
for
me
personally
and
my
two
neighbors,
and
I
want
to
thank
publicly
the
open
space,
conservancy
agency,
claudia
and
brian
and
the
city
clerk's
office,
namely
christy.
P
Hello,
everybody
thank
you
board
for
listening
to
me
tonight.
I
really
appreciate
your
kindness
thank
you,
mrs
jelipena
and
ed
jones,
for
getting
me
on
tonight.
We
have
met
at
the
cameron's.
I
have
lived
a
residence
here
for
55
years.
I
live
in
2994,
coming
to
del
sol
thousand
oaks
and
I
worked
in
the
schools
for
17
years
and
I
also
opened
save
on
drugstore
and
we
need
to
meet
if
we
could
find
us
the
place
for
our
lodge.
P
We
have
met
there
for
45
years.
My
son
ken
is
now
past
chairman
and
tom
kelquist
is
now
our
chairman.
I
was
the
first
past
chairman
by
the
degree
and
chairman.
I
do
speak
swedish.
I
call
us
fenska
and
I
also
understand
I
went
to
george
washington
high
school
with
and
esther
williams
went
there
and
that
was
a
very
hard
school.
It
was
like
a
junior
college,
but
what
I'm
getting
to
is
that
we
need
to
place
to
meet
for
our
lodge.
We
have
62
members.
P
P
You
know
I
put
your
signs
on
my
property
and
I
thank
you,
mrs
and
I,
the
secretary
and
mr
jones.
I
really
appreciate
all
your
help
from
me.
If
we
could
just
find
a
place
to
meet
for
our
lodge,
it's
only
62
people
and
we
and
I'm
very
proud
of
my
heritage.
My
dad
was
from
sweden,
my
mom
and
dad
were
married.
There
I
have
a
cousin,
that's
a
doctor
and
gottenberg,
and
we
we
do
our
mid-summer.
We
do
our
lucia
program.
We
can
have
that.
P
We
only
need
to
need
nine
months
a
year
nine
times
a
year.
A
business
meeting
is
social.
We
can
have
our
lucia
program
somewhere
else.
I
can
go
to
the
masons,
I'm
an
eastern
star,
but
we
really
can't
afford
their
place
anymore.
So
we
need
a
place
that
if
the
city
could
help
us
find
a
place,
I
would
appreciate
it.
You
have
been
very,
very
kind
to
me.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me.
I
I
I
love
this
town.
I've
been
here,
my
parents,
they
moved
out
here.
They
absolutely
call
this
paradise.
P
My
aunt
came
from
sweden.
She
said
this
is
paradise
because
it's
very
cold
in
sweden
now-
and
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
listening
to
me
tonight
and
if
we
can
negotiate
something
I
would
really
appreciate
it.
You
know
for
a
meeting
place
for
our
oakleaf
lodge
fossil
order
of
america.
Anybody
can
join
boston.
Now
it
it's
open
to
everybody.
C
R
Mr
mr
mayor,
before
we
move
on
with
consent
calendar,
I
just
we
have
liz
perez.
Who
is
our
facilities?
Manager
can
speak
briefly,
but
just
as
a
reminder
we
do
have,
and
she
can
speak
to
this.
We
do
have
facilities.
This
group
is
a
non-profit.
We
do
have
facilities
throughout
the
community
where
they
can
meet
for
for
free,
so
I'll.
Let
liz
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
about
the
outreach
efforts
that
have
occurred
so
far.
P
P
P
C
L
A
I
B
L
L
K
L
L
Lastly,
I
know
that
vasa
we
heard
from
the
the
kenyan
family
that
they
were
looking
for
a
place
to
meet
last
year,
and
I
thought
that
koska
staff
would
reach
out
to
make
sure
that
they
have
a
place
where
they
can
meet
so
not
sure
whether
it
hasn't
happened
yet.
But
I
look
forward
to
the
resolution
to
a
meeting
place.
Thank
you.
R
R
As
liz
mentioned,
they
did
have
dialogue
with
members
of
the
board
and
have
offered
opportunities
so
we're
happy
to
reach
out
to
the
other
other
members.
Therefore,
it's
not
trickling
through
to
the
right
channels,
so
we've
got
their
contact.
Information
and
liz
will
follow
up
direct
with
them,
but
gary
or
brian
anything
else
to
add.
H
I'm
just
sad
that
we
had
a
small
open
house
last
thursday,
where
we
met
20
of
our
neighbors
and
we
really
enjoyed
the
opportunity
to
to
meet
them
and
hear
their
their
concerns
and
their
hopes
for
the
future.
And
we're
happy
that
we
have
a
supportive
community
around
us
and
we're
looking
forward
to
being
a
neighbor.
B
B
I
was
not
aware
that
the
public
usage
had
fallen
off
so
much.
I
read
in
the
packet
where
the
fees
were
slightly
in
expense
in
excess
of
two
thousand
dollars
last
year.
So
it
would
tell
me
that
it's
not
used
extensively,
but
I
just
want
to
to
say
that
we
did
really
think
a
lot
of
bruce
cameron.
We
named
it
for
him
and
now
it
can
go
into
the
use,
which
I
think
is
a
good
functional
use
for
the
costco
rangers.
So
I
think
bruce
would
be
happy
with
that.
Thank
you.
L
B
C
This
is
an
item
being
brought
to
us
by
assistant
manager,
city
manager,
ingrid
hardy,
jamie
boscarino,
our
finance
director,
tara,
carruth
from
the
county,
ventura
county
and
aaron
criswell
from
step
up,
and
this
has
to
do
with
our
discussions
of
a
few
months
ago,
of
a
permanent,
supportive
housing
location
at
the
old
quality
inn
in
downtown
thousand
oaks.
So
with
that,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
please
to
miss
hardy.
G
Good
evening,
mayor
engler
and
members
of
the
city
council
tonight,
I'm
here
in
follow-up
to
the
september
28
city
council
meeting
in
september,
the
city
council
authorized
staff
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
shangri-la
industries,
step
up
on
second
and
the
county
of
ventura,
to
undertake
the
acquisition
and
conversion
of
the
quality
and
ensuites
to
provide
permanent,
supportive
housing
before
diving
into
the
specifics
on
the
project
site
and
the
work
that
has
been
accomplished
over
the
last
four
months
to
prepare.
For
this
evening.
G
G
Episodic
homelessness
refers
to
individuals
who
are
currently
homeless,
have
experienced
at
least
three
periods
of
homelessness
in
their
previous
year.
These
individuals
also
often
suffer
from
some
type
of
disabling
condition,
such
as
medical
problems,
mental
illness
and
or
substance
addiction
issues.
B
G
This
often
describes
people
staying
with
friends
or
relatives
because
they
lack
housing
opportunities.
This
population
is
considered
homeless
because
they
may
not
access
homeless,
support
and
services,
despite
their
need
for
them.
For
this
reason,
they
don't
typically
appear
in
our
homelessness
numbers.
Again,
homelessness
can
present
itself
in
many
different
forms.
Some
experience
long-term
homelessness,
while
others
experience
it
for
shorter
periods.
G
When
looking
at
the
complexity
of
homelessness
and
the
various
avenues
to
assist
persons
experiencing
homelessness,
we
look
at
the
entirety
of
a
crisis
response
system.
The
crisis
response
system
includes
a
multi-prong
approach
where
one
size
does
not
fit
all
the
goal
of
this
system
is
to
make
homelessness.
Rare
brief
and
non-recurring
an
effective
crisis
response
system
identifies
and
quickly
connects
people
who
are
experiencing,
or
at
risk
of
experiencing
homelessness,
to
housing,
assistance
and
other
services.
G
G
The
coordinated
entry
connects
individuals
and
households
to
a
wide
array
of
services.
This
system
helps
organizations
avoid
duplication
of
services
or
work
and
silos,
and
also
gets
individuals
connected
to
the
range
of
services
and
housing
needed
emergency
shelter.
Housing
navigation,
centers,
sometimes
referred
to
as
interim
housing
or
transitional
housing,
is
designed
to
be
short-term
and
ensure
the
person
or
persons
receiving
the
services
have
a
pathway
to
some
form
of
permanent
housing
and
then,
finally,
you
have
long-term
housing
or
permanent
housing.
G
G
The
mou
calls
for
a
joint
commitment
to
address
homelessness
through
actions
such
as
participation
in
the
coordinated
entry
system,
development
of
a
crisis
response
system
which
includes
emergency
housing
resources
and
the
pursuit
of
permanent
housing
units.
The
city
solicited
feedback
in
our
last
statistically
valid
survey.
60
of
respondents
support
incentivizing
hotels
to
accept
vouchers,
62
percent
support,
temporary
shelter
and
59
percent
support
permanent
supportive
housing
to
build
awareness.
The
city
has
consolidated
important
local
resources
and
information
on
the
city's
website.
G
The
city
has
conducted
outreach
campaigns
and,
in
addition,
the
ad
hoc
committee
has
hosted
a
well-attended
homeless
symposium
with
representation
from
the
local
faith,
community
representatives
from
city
state
and
county
government,
as
well
as
law
enforcement.
The
event
acquainted
attendees
to
thousands
specific
homelessness
issues,
efforts
and
resources.
G
G
The
council
has
al
also
authorized
staff
to
work
with
many
mansions
in
turning
point
foundation
to
identify
a
site,
a
suitable
site
for
shelter
and
additional
permanent
supportive
housing
units.
Tonight
we
are
addressing
or
following
up
specifically
on
the
permanent
supportive
housing
at
the
quality
inn
and
suites.
G
These
projects
are
in
geographically
and
characteristically
different
cities,
demonstrating
their
agility
and
ability
to
be
responsive
to
unique
community
needs
during
the
first
round
of
home.
Key
their
projects
were
among
the
top
ten
percent
of
the
most
effective
cost.
Effective
home
homekey
projects
in
the
state
of
california.
G
G
The
state
has
committed
approximately
1.45
billion
to
the
program
for
fiscal
year
2122
and
is
administered
by
the
department
of
housing
and
community
development.
The
program
provides
grant
funding
to
cities
and
counties
to
acquire
and
convert
existing
buildings,
including
hotels
into
permanent
or
interim
housing.
G
G
Housing
first
is
an
evidence-based
practice
that
has
demonstrated
when
persons
experiencing
homelessness
are
housed
first
and
offered
wrap-around
services.
The
chances
of
returning
to
homelessness
is
greatly
reduced.
Due
to
this
successful
strategy
in
2016,
housing
first
was
codified
in
the
state's
welfare
and
institution
code.
G
G
Applicants
are
not
rejected
on
the
basis
of
poor
credit
or
financial
history
or
behaviors
that
indicate
a
lack
of
quote-unquote
housing,
readiness,
duration
or
chronicity
of
homelessness.
Vulnerability
to
early
mortality
or
high
utilization
of
crisis
services
are
also
a
factor
in
tenant.
Selection,
tenants
do
pay
rent
and
they
have
all
the
rights
and
responsibilities
of
tennessee.
G
The
project
site
being
discussed
tonight
is
the
quality
inn
and
suites
located
at
12
canejo
boulevard.
If
the
project
moves
forward,
the
motel
will
be
converted
into
77
studio
apartments.
This
site
will
not
be
used
for
interim
housing
or
an
emergency
shelter.
It
is
strictly
for
permanent,
supportive
housing
and,
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
turn
over
the
presentation
to
our
finance
director,
jamie
boscarino
who's,
going
to
cover
the
project
financing.
J
After
we
received
city
council
approval
in
the
fall
to
move
forward
and
work
with
chamber
law
and
step
up
on
second
to
convert
the
quality
in
and
suites
into
permanent
supportive
housing.
We've
been
meeting
weekly
with
the
team,
including
our
partners
at
the
county
and
our
outside
consultant
kaiser
marston.
J
J
Project
home
key
funding
itself
has
various
levels
of
award
that
can
be
granted
depending
on
meeting
certain
guidelines.
For
example,
the
mix
of
chronically
homeless
can
determine
the
award
amount.
Having
occupancy
within
eight
months
increases
your
award
and
providing
a
local
match
towards
operating
subsidy
for
four
years,
maxes
out
the
homkey
operating
subsidy
of
three
years
for
a
total
of
seven
years
of
operations,
funded
staff
evaluated
the
initial
project
financing
proposal
very
closely.
We
questioned
costs
estimated
by
the
developer
team.
J
J
Although
staff
does
not
anticipate
an
award
of
28
million
if
our
award
is
higher
than
requested
in
our
application,
our
resolution
would
allow
the
city
to
receive
the
higher
award.
The
funds
from
project
homekey
would
go
towards
acquisition,
construction
and
also
towards
operations
for
years.
One
through
three.
This
is
a
funding
source
that
is
readily
ready
and
available
in
the
state's
budget
and,
if
not
spent
here
in
thousand
oaks
will
be
spent
elsewhere
in
the
state
to
benefit
other
cities.
J
This
project
is
required
to
pay
prevailing
wage
since
we
are
utilizing
state
and
local
funding
sources.
Additional
funding
up
to
5.8
million
is
being
allocated
to
this
project
by
the
council.
Earlier
today,
the
county
board
of
supervisors
approved
2.5
million
from
its
home
american
rescue
plan
funds
towards
operation
operating
subsidy
for
years.
Four
through
seven
schanger
law
also
applied
for
an
additional
3.3
million
in
county
cdbg
funding,
which
would
go
towards
capital
costs,
if
approved
by
the
county
board
in
the
spring.
J
Approval
of
these
funds
not
only
meets
one
of
city
council's
top
priorities
this
year
and
was
budgeted,
but
also
complies
with
health
and
safety
code
requirements
on
the
expenditure
of
housing
successor
funds,
a
minimum
of
30
percent
of
housing,
success
or
expenditures
are
required
to
be
spent
on
the
development
of
rental
housing
serving
households
that
are
at
or
below
30
percent
of
the
area.
Median
income
and
this
requirement
is-
has
to
be
met
by
2024,
or
we
risk
turning
these
funds
over
to
the
state
to
be
spent
elsewhere.
J
As
part
of
our
evaluation
of
the
overall
project
costs
and
in
an
effort
to
reduce
the
project,
costs
by
the
developer
staff
is
also
recommending
waiver
of
city
planning
permit
and
developer
fees,
which
total
approximately
25
000
based
on
staff
estimates.
As
the
city
is
a
co-applicant
and
this
project
is
100
affordable.
It
is
financially
responsible
to
approve
waiver
of
these
fees.
As
I
mentioned,
the
operations
for
the
project,
which
include
ongoing
costs
such
as
insurance
utilities,
maintenance
security,
as
well
as
the
supportive
services,
will
be
fully
funded
through
the
first
seven
years.
J
J
The
area
housing
authority
of
the
county
of
ventura
serves
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
as
well
as
camarillo
fillmore
moore
park,
ojai
simi
valley
and
unincorporated
ventura
county.
At
this
point,
we
do
not
believe
there
are
any
project-based
vouchers
available
from
the
area
housing
authority
for
this
project.
J
However,
there
may
be
individuals
that
are
placed
into
housing
at
the
project
site
that
have
housing
choice,
vouchers
staff
wanted
to
ensure
the
project
was
financially
feasible
without
any
vouchers.
Thus,
this
revenue
is
not
included
in
our
projections,
but
this
would
assist
in
reducing
the
ongoing
annual
operating
costs
of
the
project
into
the
future.
J
It's
also
too
early
to
estimate
how
much
would
be
available
in
future.
Funding
from
various
sources,
including
federal
state
and
county
funding.
Housing
is,
of
course,
a
key
priority
for
the
state,
and
we
do
anticipate
that
there
would
be
state
funding
available
in
the
future
for
operations
of
project
home
key
sites.
J
In
addition,
we
have
revenue
that
does
come
into
the
city's
housing
success
or
agency
fund
annually
from
residual
receipts
payments.
This
is
eligible
to
be
spent
on
this
project
in
the
future,
as
well
with
the
lack
of
rda
funding
available
to
the
city
due
to
the
dissolution
of
rda
project.
Homekey
provides
an
amazing
opportunity
for
the
city
to
access
millions
and
dedicated
funding
towards
achieving
city
council's
priority
of
addressing
homelessness
and
affordable
housing
investments.
D
Good
evening,
thank
you
jamie
as
a
assistant
city
manager.
Ingrid
hardy
mentioned
earlier.
The
countywide
mou
commits
to
participating
in
the
coordinated
entry
system.
The
state's
home
key
program
also
requires
that
all
units
of
homekey
sites
are
filled
through
ventura
counties,
coordinated
entry
system,
the
coordinated
entry
system
is
part
of
the
continuum
of
care
structure
and
the
lead
agency
that
oversees
that
process
is
the
county
human
services
agency.
D
There
is
a
prioritization
process
for
this
matching,
which
is
based
on
serving
people
who
have
been
homeless
for
the
longest
lengths
of
time
and
have
the
most
severe
service
needs.
This
is
intended
to
serve
the
most
vulnerable
members
of
the
community
that
are
least
likely
to
be
able
to
get
out
of
homelessness
themselves.
D
One
key
thing
that
we
wanted
to
mention
to
your
council
and
to
the
residents
is
this:
home
key
site
will
serve
eligible
homeless
residents
from
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
Local
preferences
are
honored
and
we
work
through
that
coordinated
entry
system
to
match
individuals
with
their
home
community,
where
they're
connected
to
services
and
have
community
and
natural
supports.
We
find
that
most
homeless
individuals
prefer
to
move
or
prefer
to
stay
in
their
home
communities,
and
so
we
work
really
hard
to
honor
that,
through
the
coordinated
entry
system,
do
I
turn
it
back
to
you.
Ingrid.
H
H
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
about
each
of
those
components,
so
housing
retention
is
critical.
You
know
getting
folks
who
are
homeless.
Housed
is
just
the
start
and
they
really
rely
on
services
to
support
them
in
keeping
that
housing
and,
of
course,
it's
better
for
everyone,
the
tenant
and
the
community.
H
We
also
help
them
promote
pro-social
behaviors.
We
want
folks
to
start
to
think
beyond
their
their
individual
needs
and
start
to
develop
a
community
which
is
a
big
part
of
operating
permanent,
supportive
housing.
We
want
folks
to
be
able
to
build
a
community
of
neighbors
and
reintegrate
in
the
broader
community
around
them
next
slide.
Please.
H
H
H
Slide
so
a
large
part
of
permanent
supportive
housing
is
providing
that
housing
as
a
platform
for
people
to
reintegrate
into
the
community
as
a
housed
person.
You
know,
there's
a
very
different
experience
when
you're
living
on
the
streets
you're
still
in
that
community
and
you're
still
a
resident,
but
it's
a
it's
not
the
same
as
being
a
participating
citizen
in
that
community,
as
as
a
person
who's
housed
and
is
afforded
the
respect
and
dignity
of
that
housing.
H
So
what
we
can't
do
on-site,
such
as
clinical
mental
health
services,
physical
health,
medical
dental,
these
are
all
services
that
we
want
to
connect
each
tenant
to
based
on
their
level
of
needs.
So
we
will
help
them
set
up
appointments.
We
will
help
them
navigate
those
appointments.
We
will
help
transport
them
to
those
appointments
to
help
them
understand
how
to
work
with
whatever
treatment,
plans
or
treatment
recommendations
that
they
were
given.
H
You
know
helping
to
build
up
new
ways
of
getting
their
needs
met,
such
as
physical
health
care,
having
a
primary
care
physician,
as
opposed
to
utilizing
the
emergency
room
for
medical
treatment.
You
know
it's
better
care,
it's
more
cost
effective
and
in
the
long
run
the
tenants
will
will
benefit
from
that.
G
As
I
wrap
up,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
council
ad
hoc
committee
on
homelessness
for
your
leadership.
I
also
would
like
to
thank
the
county
of
ventura,
including
mike
powers.
The
board
of
supervisors,
who
approved
the
funding
this
morning
in
the
amount
of
2.5
million
dollars
as
an
operating
subsidy,
also
would
like
to
thank
tara
carruth,
who
leads
and
oversees
our
county
continuum
of
care
and
tracy
mccauley
our
affordable
housing
financial
guru
has
been
who
has
been
instrumental
in
working
with
our
team
on
the
finances
of
the
project.
G
I
Thank
you
mayor.
I
appreciate
that
before
I
begin,
I
would
like
to
digress
off
the
topic
as
council
voted
in
december
to
fund
the
license
plate
readers.
I
went
through
a
list
of
people
to
thank
and
jamie.
I
forgot
to
thank
you
for
the
great
effort
in
finding
the
funds
to
put
the
license
plate
readers
forward.
I
thank
you
very
much
for
that
effort
and
I'm
sorry
about
the
omission
on
in
december.
I
I
J
J
We
also,
as
I
mentioned,
our
own
city
funding,
so
the
housing
successor
funding
from
residual
receipts-
that
is,
money
that
comes
in
every
year
and
it
is
restricted
to
be
spent
on
projects
such
as
this
affordable
housing,
homelessness,
type
projects,
so
we
can't
spend
it.
You
know
on
any
other
general
fund
type
purposes.
Please
know
that
it
has
to
be
spent
towards
affordable
housing
and
homelessness
types
projects.
J
So,
since
that
funding
is
restricted
to
those
types
of
uses
that
would
be
available
for
this
project
in
the
future,
we
get
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
annually
and
residual
sheets
payments
from
our
housing
successor
that
would
be
available
each
year.
If
you
recall,
with
the
lakes
project
that
was
passed,
we
also
included
a
funding
source
every
single
year
firm
for
many
many
years
right.
J
I
Thank
you,
ms
hardy
again,
thank
you
for
you
and
your
team
for
doing
such
a
wonderful
job.
It's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
very
difficult
to
put
together
so
again
my
hat's
off
to
you
and
thank
you.
The
next
question
I
have
and
again
I'll
limit
to
three
and
come
back
and
circle
back
and
pick
up
in
the
other
ones
is
that
the
preference
would
be
for
a
thousand
oaks
residents
from
the
county,
but
no
guarantee
it
could
be
zero.
I
People
from
thousand
oaks
in
this
housing
could
be
100
people
in
the
housing
here,
but
we
don't
know
but
other
than
just
give
them
a
nod.
Is
there
any
consideration
for
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
in
this
housing
to
be
us
citizens?
Is
that
a
criteria
or
is
it
just
open
to
anyone,
regardless
of
their
residency
and
citizenship?.
D
D
Currently,
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because,
if
you
think
of
coordinated
entry
as
like
a
funnel,
there
are
referrals
coming
in
from
our
behavioral
health
system
from
lutheran
social
services
from
harbor
house
from
the
health
care
agency.
All
of
these
agencies
are
funneling
in
then
we
are
matching
the
most
eligible
individuals
with
that
unit,
knowing
that
there's
layered
on
a
preference
for
for
a
thousand
oaks
residents.
The
reason
I
am
confident
is
because
we
have
looked
at
data
from
project
room
key
from
our
outreach
programs.
D
Then,
as
far
as
your
question
about
citizenship,
that
really
is
dependent
on
funding
sources,
but
most
federal
funding
sources
do
require
that
that
people
are
legal
residents
or
or
a
household
member
is,
and
so
that
is,
is
likely
going
to
serve
citizens
and
residents
of
thousand
oaks.
If
that
answers
your
question.
I
I
If
my
math
is
correct,
if
we
take
the
28
million
dollars
divided
by
77
units,
I'm
coming
out
with
three
363
dollars
per
unit,
and
yes,
some
of
this
is
divided
up
into
soft
services
and
then
some
of
it's
hard
costs
for
construction
and
so
forth.
Can
you
break
that
down
a
little
bit
because
363
thousand
dollars
per
unit
is
a
pretty
big
number?
And
could
you
walk
me
through
this.
J
Yeah
so,
as
I
mentioned,
the
28
million
was
what
we
anticipated
would
be
120
of
our
award
amount,
so
we
don't
think
we'll
receive
the
28
million
in
total.
A
little
over
200
000
is
just
for
acquisition
of
the
property,
so
a
little
over
200
000
per
unit
is
just
related
to
acquiring
the
motel
from
the
current
owner.
J
So
that's
the
bulk
of
that
per
unit
cost
and
then,
as
you
mentioned,
there's
a
chunk
that
is
part
of
the
ongoing
support
services
and
other
services.
So
the
ongoing
operations
for
seven
years
of
that
project.
So
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
accurate
to
include
seven
years
of
operations
and
that
total
per
unit
cost
up
front.
You'd
more
want
to
focus
on
the
acquisition
and
the
construction.
I
I
J
M
Councilmember
mcnamee,
so
prevailing
wage
is
basically
a
it's
a
tool
that
requires
a
significant
accounting
and
reporting
on
on
salaries
and
benefits
that
are
provided
to
the
workers
on
the
projects.
It
I
mean,
realistically
speaking,
it
results
in
a
significant
increase
in
cost
to
construct
public
public
projects.
I
I
C
I
I
What
is
the
program
motivation
to
get
people
back
into
being
functional
people
again,
as
far
as
having
purpose
in
life
being
able
to
support
themselves
and
move
forward,
or
is
that
not
a
realistic
goal
for
the
population
that
will
be
in
these
77
units?
I'd
like
to
get
some
ideas
to
where
we're
going
with
this?
Is
it
going
to
be
forever
and
ever
77
people
living
there,
or
will
they
be
trained
and
broke
rehab
and
so
forth
to
transition
out
and
stand
on
their
own
two
feet?.
H
Thank
you
ingrid,
yes,
certainly
it's
it's
our
goal
to
offer
the
rehabilitation
opportunities
to
every
tenant
that
moves
in
so
anything
that
they're
capable
of
gaining
skills
to
re-enter
the
community
in
a
different
way.
We're
there
to
support
that
the
reality
of
folks
who
are
been
chronically
homeless
and
even
just
sporadic
episodic
homelessness,
there's
often
an
associated
mental
health
disability,
and
that
tends
to
mean
that
it's
going
to
be
a
long
road
of
recovery
until
they
can
become
financially
self-sufficient.
H
So
often
permanent,
supportive
housing
sees
individuals
stay
for
long
periods
of
time
and
for
some
for
many
it's
their
forever
home.
However,
we
have
had
many
successes
where
folks
got
either
the
education
or
the
employment
training
were
able
to
move
on
to
increase
their
income
and
their
and
their
choices,
and
so
they
no
longer
needed
that
voucher
or
subsidy
to
remain
housed
and
they
were
able
to
move
on
to
other
choices
of
housing
out
in
the
community,
and
we
celebrate
those
as
graduations
and
successes.
I
Mr
chris,
well
again,
we've
run
several
other
facilities.
What's
your
experience
of
the
percent
of
those
that
have
been
in
the
other
facilities
that
are
able
to
become
independent
of
the
government,
the
state
your
facility
to
leave
it
a
productive
life?
What's
what's
your
best
estimate?
No,
I'm
not
going
to
hold
you
to
this.
Just
want
to
get
a
flavor
as
to
where
we're
going
with
this
particular
project.
H
So
our
our
graduation
rate,
that
percentage
is,
is
fairly
low,
it's
below
10
percent,
but
there
is
a
different
expectation
with
folks
who
maybe
haven't
suffered
homelessness.
Many
of
the
folks
we
we
have
housed
have
been
homeless,
10
years,
20
30
40
years,
and
so
the
ability
to
change
and
grow
and
change
your
life.
It
it.
We
believe
it's
absolutely
possible,
but
we
also
understand
it.
It
takes
a
long
time
and
a
lot
of
supportive
services
to
get
there.
I
O
O
It
creates
a
funding
source
for
projects
just
like
this,
a
homeless,
permanent,
permanent,
supportive
housing
project
or
perhaps
other
low-income
housing
projects
that
might
come
down
the
road.
So
I
think
that
was
a
very
well
negotiated
agreement
as
as
far
as
this
project
goes,
this
is
a
perfect
example
of
government
working
in
cooperation
to
address
a
problem.
That's
been
nagging
our
city
now
for
a
number
of
years,
federal
state,
county
and
local,
all
working
together
to
do
just
what
we're
supposed
to
do
solve
problems
now.
O
This
may
not
solve
it
completely,
but
it's
going
to
make
a
huge
dent.
In
it
I
mean
how
many
citizen
complaints
and
how
many
calls
for
service
have
we
gotten
so
people
desperately
asking
us.
Do
something
well
tonight
we're
going
to
do
something:
we're
going
to
respond
to
a
crisis
and
we're
going
to
make
we're
going
to
have
a
very
effective
response
through
this
permanent
supportive
housing
project?
It's
an
ideal
location.
O
O
You
know
I
went
on
a
tour
with
some
of
our
vulnerable
population
officers
and
looked
at
the
the
state
of
the
homeless
people
here
in
thousand
oaks,
and
it's
not
it's
not
pretty,
and
now
we
have
an
opportunity
to
address
that,
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
provide
shelter.
Yes,
but
a
pathway-
and
the
word
was
mentioned-
a
pathway
to
reintegration
back
into
society.
O
I
mean
we
start
with
somebody
living
in
a
tent
or
under
the
freeway,
and
then
they
can
go
ultimately
to
an
emergency
shelter
and
then,
through
the
coordinated
entry
system,
qualify
for
permanent,
supportive
housing
and
once
they
get
there,
they'll
be
wrapped
around
services
that
will
help
rehab
them
and
eventually,
hopefully
get
them
back
to
work.
I
mean
what
better
function
can
government
do
to
me.
This
is
the
highest
function
that
that
government
can
operate
at,
and
I
I'm
very
enthusiastic
about
this
project.
O
It's
something!
That's
that
we're
addressing
that
many
communities
wish
they
could
do
what
we're
doing.
I'm
sure-
and
I
think
the
only
one
in
ventura
county
right
now
is
oxnard,
and
here
we
are
on
the
verge
of
doing
the
same
thing
here
in
thousand
oaks.
So
obviously,
as
you
can
tell,
I'm
leaning
up
to
a
motion
in
support
of
this
of
13a
and
all
the
recommendations
that
staff
made
within
13a-
and
I
just
want
to
congratulate
everybody
on
their
hard
work
on
this.
C
C
L
Thank
you.
It's
wonderful
to
see
the
enthusiasm
that
has
started
to
wrap
around
this
subject.
That
was
taboo
not
too
long
ago.
It
was
taboo
to
talk
about
homelessness,
how
to
help
the
homeless
people.
It
was
an
uphill
battle
to
convince
the
residents
of
thousand
oaks
to
see
that
something
needed
to
be
done,
that
the
status
quo
could
not
remain
any
longer,
and
I
want
to
not
really
ask
any
questions,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
did
hear
from
some
of
the
public
before
we
circle
back
to
to
the
motion.
L
L
C
D
Thank
you
mayor
angler
and
council
members.
My
name
is
adam
haverstock,
I'm
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
for
the
greater
kaneo
valley
chamber
of
commerce,
I'm
speaking
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
chamber's
executive
committee,
in
support
of
the
proposed
action
to
move
forward,
the
conversion
of
the
quality
into
suites
to
supportive
housing
for
the
homeless
community,
and
we
did
submit
a
letter
to
that
effect
earlier
this
week.
This
proposal
will
allow
staff
to
access
28
million
dollars
in
grant
funding
provided
by
california,
housing
and
community
development
through
project
homekey.
D
The
chamber
of
commerce
is
in
support
of
this
project,
and
that
is
in
spite
of
the
fact
that
it
will
mean
the
closure
of
one
of
our
local
hotels,
taking
77
hotel
rooms
out
of
the
local
supply
that
will
have
a
negative
effect
on
room
rates
for
travelers
to
our
region.
We
are
comfortable
with
this
action
because
this
city
council
approved
a
new
hotel
project
at
the
timber
school
sites
and
are
likely
to
review
another
proposed
hotel
at
the
jans
marketplace
in
the
near
future.
D
H
H
My
name
is
armando
delgado
and
I
represent
1900
working
families
with
the
carpenter's
local
805,
we're
no
strangers
to
local
municipalities,
as
we
address
the
impacts
of
new
developments
throughout
our
communities.
Now
I
want
to
be
clear:
we're
not
opposed
to
housing
projects.
We
advocate
for
fair
housing
everywhere
to
include
affordable
workforce
and
veteran
housing
projects.
Ventura
county's
economy
is
diverse,
offering
specific
strengths
in
agriculture,
manufacturing,
biotech
and
many
others,
but
don't
forget
the
thousands
of
tradesmen
and
women
nearby.
H
These
industries
are
what
make
thousand
oaks
so
desirable
to
live
and
build
as
we
address
regional
housing
needs.
We
need
a
plan
for
a
future
that
enhances
social
equity
and
economic
opportunity.
So
tonight
you'll
consider
a
resolution
for
participation
in
the
homekeep
program
and
according
to
assembly
bill
140.
H
follow
me
for
a
second,
so
we
can
dive
into
the
conversation.
That's
not
being
had.
Let's
take
a
look
into
some
of
the
texts
from
zika
exemption
in
ab140.
Now
your
city
attorneys
are
aware
of
this,
and
the
wording
is
read
as
such.
The
project
component
shall
require
all
contractors
and
subcontractors
performing
work
on
the
project
to
pay
prevailing
wages.
H
Now,
according
to
the
state
legislation,
this
project
requires
the
use
of
journeymen
and
women
who
have
graduated
from
a
joint
labor
management
apprenticeship,
training
program,
approved
by
the
state
of
california
and
the
use
of
registered
apprentices
of
the
state
approved
apprenticeship
program.
We
have
one
right
down
the
road
right
in
camarillo
throughout
much
of
the
construction
industry,
there's
been
a
race
to
the
bottom,
as
employers
compete
for
jobs,
primarily
reducing
labor
cost.
H
This
is
typically
done
by
paying
low
wages
and
also
wage
step
off
the
books,
employment
and
misclassification
of
workers.
So
how
exactly
will
workers
be
protected
on
this
project?
Does
the
city
have
a
real
way
to
protect
tax
payer
dollars
on
this
project?
If
so,
I'd
love
to
hear
it?
The
city
can
address
this
by
simply
including
labor
provisions
that
require
this
project
to
be
built,
utilizing
a
local,
skilled
and
trained
workforce.
H
Yes,
the
city
can
legally
require
the
use
of
local
and
skilled
trained
workforce
to
benefit
the
communities,
economic
development
and
environment,
we're
talking
about
better
jobs,
area,
standard
wages
and
worker
benefits
right.
So
these
construction
projects
nearby,
we
can
increase
the
skills
and
probability
of
our
locals.
H
Now
our
apprenticeship
program
only
works
when
developers
contractors
are
partnered
with
us
and
the
community,
so
you
are
the
key
to
creating
better
community
wealth.
Please
include
a
local
hiring
provision
to
this
project
and
I
know
we'll
never
really
solve
the
the
homeless
issue,
but
we
understand
that
tonight
by
giving
more
employment
opportunities,
you
can
at
least
address
those
who
are
at
risk
of
being
homeless.
C
L
M
Well,
I
can
answer
the
questions
that
were
raised
by
the
public
speaker
regarding
prevailing
wages.
Again
prevailing
wage
law
is
set
forth
by
by
the
state
it
requires
certain
rates,
be
paid
for
different
genres
of
construction
and
and
public
works
projects
in
in
the
with
respect
to
the
question
on
how
do
we
ensure
that
this
is
being
complied
with
prevailing
wage
laws
not
only
set
forth
a
specific
pay
rate,
but
also
have
a
very
stringent
reporting
requirement,
and
that
stringent
reporting
requirement
ensures
that
the
prevailing
wage
laws
are
being
complied
with?
M
The
city,
as
you
know,
has
many
public
works
projects
that
we
conduct
on
an
annual
basis
and
and
and
based
on
those
reporting
requirements.
That's
how
we
ensure
that
they're
complied
with
state
law.
As
for
how
do
you
go
about
adding
a
local
hiring
preference
in
there?
That
is
something
that's
significantly
complex.
It's
not
something
that
can
just
be
done
without
any
thought
or
research,
or
anything
like
that.
It's
a
very
complex
issue.
R
I'll
jump
in
to
that
councilmember
middle
of
pena.
It's
it's
a
policy
question
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
you
know
what
I
would
tell
you
is
there,
as
as
a
city
attorney
laid
out,
there
are
significant
implications
when
you
start
down
a
path
to
which
you're
basically
confining
the
marketplace
and
and
putting
different
preferences
in
place.
R
L
R
And
even
and
that's
a
great
example,
there
are
very
narrow
set
of
things
that
fall
into
that
that
under
those
guidelines
and
because
there
are
implications
around
purchasing
in
regards
to
that
as
well
and
constraining
sort
of
the
marketplace
piece
of
that.
There
are
areas
in
which
we
have
done
that
and
have
pursued
that
when
you
get
into
labor
related
issues
like
this,
it
just
gets
significantly
more
complicated.
C
B
Yeah
I'd
like
to
compliment
everybody
involved
in
this.
I
think
the
real
test
of
government
at
any
level
is,
does
government
meet
the
problems
that
are
facing
them
and
we,
you
know
if
you
watch
the
national
news,
you
see
all
these.
It
seems
like
games
that
are
going
on,
but
I
really
think
maybe
it's
just
because
I've
always
been
at
the
local
level,
but
I
really
think
the
local
level
really
understands
people's
problems
better
and
can
work
to
solve
them.
B
B
Well,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
that.
I'd
like
to
thank
staff.
I
I'd
like
to
thank
ingrid.
I'm
sure
she
did
a
lot
of
hard
work
on
this,
but
I
believe
it's
an
example
of
government
efficient
government
and
action
that
we
see
a
problem
and
then
we
go
out
and
we
try
to
meet
it,
and
I
believe
this
is
a
step
in
that
direction.
I'm
sorry
that
the
governor
back
in
the
70s
closed
the
state,
mental
hospitals,
of
course,
the
gambria
hospital
now
is
the
channel
islands
cal
state
college.
B
So
I
guess
that
was
good
use,
but
you
know
in
retrospect
this
won't
help
to
recall
it,
but
I
think
that
was
fed
into
this
problem
that
some
of
these
people
ought
to
have
mental
health,
but
just
in
conclusion,
I
I
really
applaud
all
the
work
that
was
done
in
this
and
I
think
it
will
really
help
those
people.
I
like,
I,
like
all
the
words
that
begin
with
re
like
reestablish
and
rehabilitate.
B
B
I
think
we're
enabling
a
lot
of
people
to
do
that,
because
it's
so
sad
to
see
these
people
pushing
you
know
baskets
from
ralph's
or
wherever
around
the
street,
and-
and
you
know
you
just
feel
for
them,
but
if
we
can
start
this
and
maybe
even
do
more
in
the
future,
I
think
we're
on
the
right
track
and
I
just
applaud
everybody
involved.
I
deeply
appreciate,
what's
been
done,
thank
you.
C
Thank
you
for
for
the
comments.
I
I
had
one
question
and
then
at
the
risk
of
opening
up
this
issue
again,
but
I
wanted
to
follow
up
a
little
bit
with
what
missed
this
building
opinion
was
asking
about
the
prevailing
wage
and
local
hires.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
people
from
shangri-la
here,
mr
myers
and
mr
holmes
has
this
issue
come
up
in
other
cities
and
how
have
you
approached
it.
S
N
R
Q
Yeah
so
many
times
there
are
local
higher
requirements.
I
think
what
the
the
gentleman
from
the
carpenters
union
was
really
referencing
is
more
referred
to
as
a
project
labor
agreement,
so
some
cities,
you
know
under
some
circumstances,
would
require
a
project
labor
agreement
to
be
signed
with
with
union
with
certain
labor
unions
themselves.
That
would
require.
Q
The
general
contractor
and
the
developer
to
pursue
basically
union
labor-
and
you
know
it
would
it
would
give
a
preference
to
the
to
the
union
and
would
limit
you
know
in
some
cases
some
some
other
subcontractors
from
participating,
but
other
subcontractors,
you
know,
would
have
the
option
to
that
were
non-union.
By
signing
up
to
this
single
party.
Q
Labor
agreement,
which
goes
to
what
the
city
attorney
was
saying,
is
a
bit
complex,
which
is
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
would
probably
have
to
make
a
decision
to
begin
to
utilize
project,
labor
agreements
on
any
city-funded
project
and
those
project.
Labor
agreements
range
in.
You
know
the
trades
that
they
cover
the
types
of
work
that
they
do
typically
on
affordable
housing
projects
of
this
size.
Q
We
find
that
we
end
up
using
you
know
a
mix
of
both
union
labor,
unionized
labor,
as
well
as
non-union
labor,
who
sign
up,
who
paid
the
prevailing
wage
and
and
the
reality
of
it
is
this
project
that
we're
talking
about
is
a
relatively
small
construction
budget.
When
you
typically
see
the
project
labor
agreements
they're
on
larger
capital
projects,
so
it
would
be
perhaps
on
a
city
hall-
or
you
know
a
large.
Q
You
know
university
of
california,
so
something
much
much
larger
than
this
project
and
the
prevailing
wage
is
basically
is
fairly
close
to
union
rates.
If
not
the
same,
and
the
criteria
that
we
follow
for
the
local
hire
is
basically
it's
done
by
zip
code
and-
and
that
would
also
be
something
that
the
city
would
have
to
adopt
inside
that
that
labor
agreement
as
well.
We
typically
do
hire
as
local
as
we
can.
C
R
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
engler,
just
a
quick
follow-on
point
to
that,
and
I
want
to
just
remind
the
council
that
when
you
will
get
into
talking
about
these,
I
think
we
all
like
to
support
our
local
businesses.
We
all
like
to
support
our
local
economy.
There's
no
question
about
that.
But
as
a
reminder
there,
as
you
start
down
these
paths
that
that
appear
to
be,
you
know
well-intentioned,
and
they
are,
they
have.
R
You
know
good
intentions
and
they
also
have
impacts
and
and
when
you're
talking
in
this
type
situation,
thousands
is
a
city
of
126
000
folks,
when
you're
talking
about
a
marketplace,
as
mr
meyers
mentioned
in
the
greater
los
angeles
area,
the
pool
when
you're
doing
a
local
preference
in
a
greater
los
angeles
area
is
much
greater,
much
deeper
and
the
competition
is
as
such
as
well.
That
is
somewhat
more
limited
when
you're
talking
in
a
thousand
oaks
or
in
ventura
county
specifics.
R
I
This
would
be
for
mr
myers.
I
would
like
to
share
the
following
thought
again.
I
like
the
idea
of
buying
local
hiring
local
labor,
I'd
like
to
make
the
observations
as
I've
spoken
to
people
who
have
worked
in
los
angeles,
where
they
were
compelled
to
hire
out
of
the
union
hall.
Rotate
people
in
and
out
of
jobs.
Is
that
you,
as
a
developer,
have
your
team
of
people
and
they've
worked
together
as
a
team?
I
Q
You
know
that's
that's
kind
of
a
hard
question,
because
it's
a
mixed
bag-
and
you
know
we-
we
work
with
a
group
of
subcontractors,
it's
fairly
a
large
subcontractor
base.
Many
of
them
are
union
signatory
companies,
and
many
of
them
are
not
union
signatory
companies
just
depending
on
the
size
and
the
scope
of
work
I
haven't
found
because
we
as
a
developer,
we
don't
mix
with
the
team
as
much
as
you
know.
If,
for
instance,
a
non-union
subcontractor
is
going
to
get
union.
Q
Q
What
really
drives
up
the
cost
is
the
administration
of
prevailing
wage
in
general
and,
frankly,
the
union
guys
do
this
reporting
all
the
time,
so
getting
union
guys
to
do
the
reporting
and
all
the
paperwork
is
typically
easier,
and
it's
it's
really
on
these
projects
like
we're
talking
about
currently
getting
a
union
contractor
which
would
be
building
you
know,
potentially
the
ritz-carlton
in
downtown
los
angeles,
or
you
know,
a
large,
publicly
funded
project
or
something
you
know.
50
million
plus
you
know
they're
very
competitive
on
those
things.
Q
It's
these
union
guys,
don't
necessarily
want
to
do
these
smaller
projects.
So,
for
instance,
you
know
on
on
the
quality
and
we're
anticipating
buying
most
the
products
domestically,
you
know
made
in
america
our
cabinetry
is
going
to
be
made
local,
we're
not
we're
not
shipping
things
from
from
china
manufactured
in
the
inland
empire.
Q
Q
C
C
C
O
You
and
I
I
will
just
finish
by
saying
that
I
think
this
project
is
going
to
provide
some
relief
to
a
lot
of
the
homeowners
and
the
neighborhoods
that
have
been
impacted
by
homelessness
and
some
hope
to
those
that
are
homeless,
some
hope
for
some
shelter
and
some
eventual
reintegration
back
into
society.
You
know
in
all
the
years
I've
been
on
this
council.
O
L
Someplace
else
simply
not
possible
also
want
to
say
that
the
statistics
show
and
maybe
tara
carruth
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
The
majority
of
the
residents
are
from
thousand
oaks
they're
legal
residents
very
few
are
not
legal
residents,
and
so
the
majority
are
white
residents,
they're,
not
minorities,
and
so
just
wanted
to
to
get
that
out
there.
Nonetheless,
we
want
to
take
care
of
our
homegrown
people,
and
anybody
who
has
spent
time
here
who
is
now
perhaps
find
themselves
in
a
downtime
in
their
life.
L
We
will
not
be
able
to
help
all
of
them.
Other
services
are
needed
for
the
severely
mentally
ill,
but
that
this
is
a
good
start,
and
this
is
really
a
point
of
pride
very
glad
to
see
that
it's
receiving
support
and
appreciate
the
motion
very
much.
Thank
you
and
tara
to
you.
Thank
you.
You
helped
us
guide
in
to
to
you
know
in
the
right
direction
and
ingrid
was
on
board
and,
and
so
many
others,
jamie
tracy,
mr
powers,
so
many
people
have
made
this
happen.
L
This
is
just
not
just
one
person,
it's
an
entire
village
and,
as
we
said
at
the
county
board
of
supervisors
meeting
this
morning,
we
would
not
been
able
to
do
this
without
the
help
of
the
county
and
the
state.
So
this
is
a
wonderful
moment
in
the
history
of
thousand
oaks.
Thank
you
all
for
ever
to
everyone
who
made
this
happen
and
and
bon
voyage
tara,
we'll
miss
you.
C
Very
good,
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up.
I
just
have
one
comment
as
the
other
member
on
our
ad
hoc
committee.
Quite
a
bit
of
work
has
gone
into
this
and
as
just
to
echo,
all
the
all
the
people
who
have
worked
on
this
and
worked
behind
the
scenes
up
front
everything
else
to
make
this
happen.
This
is,
in
my
opinion.
C
What
government
is
for
government
is
to
address
problems
that
we
have
noticed
in
town
and
also
that,
as
council
member
adam
pointed
out,
we
all
have
received
emails
from
people
just
to
please
address
this
issue
to
please
do
something
about
our
our
homeless
issues
in
town
and
I've.
Always
I've
always
looked
at
homelessness,
not
as
a
homeless
problem,
but
as
a
people
problem.
C
L
C
B
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
what
you
were
saying.
I
think
another
thing
we're
doing
that
may
be
the
best
is
that
we're
allowing
people
to
restore
their
dignity,
and
I
appreciate
the
word
that
the
mayor
said
reintegrate
in
and
get
them
back
in
a
place
where
they
can
be
proud
of
their
lives,
and
so
I
think
it's
wonderful.
Thank
you.
C
R
Yeah,
just
as
we're
transitioning
to
our
next
item
on
the
housing
element,
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
a
big
thank
you
to
my
partner
up
at
the
county.
Mike
powers
he's
been
online
tonight
watching
mike
and
his
team
have
been,
as
has
been
stated
numerous
times
over.
You
know
huge
support
and
partners
in
this.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
through
without
some
of
their
their
assistance
and
their
sophistication
on
their
team
working
through
these
very
complex
matters.
R
I
also
just
you
know,
want
to
mention
again
ingrid
hardy,
our
assistant
city
manager,
spearheaded
this
jamie
boscarino
on
the
financial
aspects,
dusty
russell,
managing
the
logistics
and
tracy
fratel
from
the
city,
attorney's
team,
amongst
many
others.
When
the
council
said
this
is
a
priority
back
last
spring,
I
knew
this
was
going
to
be
ambitious
and
challenging.
This
is
step
one
there's
more
focus
that
needs
to
be
brought
into
other
aspects
of
addressing
homelessness
and
we'll
continue
to
do
so
appreciate
the
council's
leadership
in
action
tonight.
C
C
C
C
L
L
C
This
is
a
2021-2020
housing
element
discussion
and
we
do
have
kelvin
parker,
our
community
development
director
ian
holt,
our
seat,
one
of
our
senior
planners
and
veronica
tam,
our
consultant
on
this
to
make
the
presentation,
and
then
we
have
several
people
for
questions
as
well
so
I'll.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
mr
parker.
D
Mr
mayor
I'll
go
ahead
and
open
that
hearing.
Oh
hearing,
advertises
required
by
law
is
open
to
consider
agenda
item
8a,
2021-2029
housing
element.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residents
for
the
record.
21
individuals
have
presented
speaker
cards
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
each
speaker
will
have
two
minutes.
Thank
you.
E
E
E
E
T
Thank
you
kelvin
good
evening,
mary
engler
council
members.
So
this
sixth
cycle
of
the
housing
element
represents
a
significant
shift
and
sets
new
standards
for
how
communities
must
demonstrate
our
ability
to
allow
housing
opportunities
for
all
income
categories
and
special
needs
communities.
The
regional
housing
needs
assessment.
Allocation
of
housing
units
is
one
of
the
main
components
of
the
housing
element
before
you
and
the
analysis
that
is
contained
therein
after
extensive
public
outreach.
T
T
As
a
result,
the
housing
element
includes
17
programs
and
43
objectives.
As
part
of
the
city's
commitment
to
expanding
our
housing
opportunities,
so
veronica
tam,
an
associates
is
recognized
as
a
foremost
expert
in
the
preparation
of
housing
elements
over
her
17
years
of
experience,
she's
established
a
strong
working
relationship
with
hcd.
K
K
That's
the
adoption
deadline
for
the
housing
element.
There
are
certainly
consequences
for
not
complying
with
state
law,
particularly
with
litigation.
Housing
element,
unfortunately,
is
the
most
frequently
litigated
element
of
the
general
plan.
There
will
be
fines
in
the
event
that
you're
engaged
in
the
litigation
and
also
you
know,
ineligibility
for
state
funds,
housing.
All
men
cycle
we're
talking
about
the
third
cycle.
K
We
we
actually,
your
current
housing
element,
expired
on
october
15,
that's
the
fifth
cycle
and
we're
working
on
the
next
cycle,
the
sixth
cycle
of
day
for
2021-2029,
kevin
and
ian
both
mentioned
that
the
housing
element
is
very
strictly
regulated
by
state
law,
and
it
has
to
be
reviewed
by
a
state
agency
for
compliance
and
the
state
agency
responsible,
for
that
is
the
state
department
of
housing
and
community
development
hcd.
So
you'll
hear
the
term
hcd.
Quite
you
know
frequently
tonight.
K
K
We
need
to
look
at
the
constraints
and
opportunities
as
available
to
the
city
in
meeting
your
housing
needs
when
it
comes
to
opportunities
and
resources,
we're
focusing
on
the
concept
of
adequate
sites
to
accommodate
your
regional
housing
meetings,
allocation
we
and
as
part
of
the
housing
planning.
We
also
need
to
look
at
past
accomplishments.
K
What
is
the
city's
accomplishments
in
the
past?
What
what
works
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
what
may
not
be
as
effective
and
then
that,
with
all
the
context,
information
on
needs
constraints
and
opportunities,
and
also
effectiveness
of
your
existing
programs?
We
update
the
housing
plan
for
the
city
for
the
next
eight
years.
One
added
components
to
the
housing
element
based
on
new
state
law
that
passed
in
2017
or
2018
is
the
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
K
The
most
critical
component
of
that
review
is
the
city's
ability
to
meet
the
region.
How
many
housing
regional
housing
needs
our
location
nina
and
the
arena
is
somewhat
of
a
top-down
process.
It's
determined
by
the
state
in
terms
of
how
much
housing
is
needed
in
there
in
the
entire
region.
Each
county.
Each
jurisdiction
within
the
region
gets
an
allocation
from
that
overall
need
that
is
assigned
by
the
state
for
the
six
cycle.
K
K
The
arena
is
also
divided
into
income
categories:
very
low
income,
low
income,
moderate
income
of
modern
income.
It
doesn't
mean
that
you're
gonna
have
to
build
the
units
by
these
income
distribution
because
it's
extremely
expensive
to
build
low
income
housing.
You
may
not
have
all
the
resources
you
have
available
to
build
other
units.
What
what
the
arena
requires
the
cities
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
you
identify
other
percent
using
intensity
as
a
proxy
to
feed
for
feasibility.
K
Do
you
have
land
use
policy
granted
if
you
have
development
standards
appropriate
to
facilitate
and
develop
the
housing
for
all
income
groups,
including
those
with
low
income
and
for
the
state
that,
based
on
state
law,
the
default
density
for
jurisdiction,
like
a
thousand
oaks?
Is
that
your
your
density
needs
to
be
about
30
units
to
the
acre
to
be
considered
feasible
for
facilitating
lower
income,
and
I
also
have
size
restrictions
to
it.
Parcels
that
are
sites
that
is
too
small.
K
Less
than
half
an
acre
or
sites
that
are
too
large,
more
than
10
acres
are
not
considered
to
be
adequate
sites
to
facilitate
lower
income
housing
because
too
small
it's
difficult
to
build
on
too
large
a
non-profit
is
not
unlikely
to
be
to
be
able
to
provide
a
large
site
and
build
affordable
housing.
So,
instead
of
between
0.5
acre
and
up
to
10
acres,
that's
the
focus
of
sites
for
facilitating
lower
income,
housing.
K
K
There
is
a
no
net
loss
component
to
it,
meaning
that,
as
your
sites
are
being
developed
with
fewer
units,
are
not
necessarily
at
the
income
distribution
as
identifying
the
site's
inventory.
You
want
to
make
sure.
What's
remaining
capacity
in
the
city
continues
to
have
the
ability
to
meet
your
com
or
to
accommodate
your
regional
housing
needs
location
because
of
the
no
net
loss
requirement.
Hcb
recommends
a
buffer
for
at
least
15
to
30
percent
for
your
arena
for
low
and
moderate
income.
K
K
We
need
to
look
at
how
the
distribution
of
sites
that
you're
not
concentrating
low-income
housing
in
specific
neighborhoods
and
you're,
not
putting
just
low-income
housing
or
potential
for
new
new
low
income
housing
in
areas
that
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
lack
of
resources
or
environmental
constraints
or
hazards.
So
we
have
to
look
at
the
site's
inventory
in
terms
of
its
geographic
distribution
and
whether
it
would
be
in
areas
where
you
can
provide
resources
and
services
and
opportunities
and
how
the
city
is
going
to
complement
the
land
use
strategy
with
improvement
strategies.
K
K
K
The
preferred
land
use
map
that
was
endorsed
by
the
city
council
back
in
may
create
a
new
mix.
You
slow,
we
just
now
actually
called
mixed-use
destination
that
allows
both
residential
mixed-use
development
at
a
minimum
density
of
20
units
to
the
acre
up
to
a
maximum
of
30
units.
An
acre
this
this
particular
category
meets
the
default
density
requirement
of
20
30
units
per
acre,
the
units
that
we
distribute
between
income
groups.
K
So
let's
demonstrate
the
the
the
city's
ability
to
meet
the
need
to
housing
resources
with
arena
of
2621
units.
The
city
has
already
met
a
portion
of
that
with
a
projected
accessory
dwelling
units
will
allow
to
project
future
adu
development
based
on
historical
trends
of
the
last
three
or
four
years,
and
based
on
that,
we
estimate
that
about
20
21
units
a
year
up
to
168
units
a
year.
The
income
distribution
of
the
potential
ad
used
is
based
on
a
rent
study
conducted
by
scared
and
pre-approved
by
the
state.
K
So
when
we
are
allowed
to
use
this
income
distribution
based
on
the
study-
and
we
also
have
some
pending
projects
that
are
under
review
right
now,
and
so
with
all
that
we
do
have
a
credit
of
over
about
units
with
a
remaining
regional
housing
needs
allocation
of
1685
units
that
we
must
identify
sites
to
accommodate
that.
So
we
looked
at
sites
that
are
in
the
mixed
use
category.
K
K
I
think
one
thing
that
we
do
want
to
emphasize
is
just
because
a
this
inventory
is
entirely
consistent
with
the
preferred
land
use
alternative
and
just
because
a
property
is
identified
on
the
site,
it
doesn't
mean
that
the
property
owner
is
compelled
to
do
anything.
It's
still
up
to
the
property
owner's
desire.
What
to
do
with
the
property
they
they
own.
K
Here
is
a
map
that
just
shows
the
distribution
of
the
site.
We
try
to
more
evenly
distribute
the
amount
along
the
commercial
corridors,
but
there
are
certainly
a
couple
of
the
concentrated
areas
in
the
primarily
the
mall
sites,
but
for
those
particular
areas
we
proposed
more
and
especially,
we
emphasize
on
the
mixed
income
strategy
so
for
larger
properties.
We
we
recommend
that
the
the
development
should
be
mixed
with.
K
K
One
thing
that
is
just
identified
as
part
of
the
city's
participation
in
the
regional
housing,
the
regional
analysis
of
impediments
to
the
housing
choice.
I
think
that
was
approved
by
the
county
and
the
city
back,
maybe
about
three
years
ago
that
we
utilize
some
of
that
analysis
and
also
looked
at
some
of
the
updated
data
to
look
at
some
fair
housing
issues
existing
in
the
community,
one
fair
housing,
outreach
and
and
education,
and
fair
housing
testing.
K
That
has
not
been
done
frequently
enough,
so
something
that
we
will
recommend
in
the
future
that
assume
we
want
to
expand
faith,
housing,
outreach
and
education
segregated
living
patterns.
There
are
a
couple
of
areas
where
there
are
concentrated
minorities
in
special
needs
population,
primarily
at
the
intersection
of
highway
101
and
ira
23..
K
K
K
And
I
think
that
relates
to
what
we
have
talked
about
earlier
about
what
the?
What
are
the
requirements
of
the
house
in
our
land,
a
range
of
housing
choices
for
all
income
groups,
providing
housing
opportunities
for
persons
of
special
needs,
improving
existing
housing
conditions,
preserving
affordable
housing
opportunities,
peace
in
the
city
and
also
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
K
K
K
Since
2017
there's
been
a
lot
of
changes
to
state
law
relating
to
different
types
of
housing,
the
zoning
codes
must
be
amended
to
comply
with
the
state
law.
Providing
housing
opportunities
for
persons
with
special
needs
are
working
with
your
homeless
task
force
and
working
with
your
non-profits
to
facilitate
housing
and,
and
certainly
what
you've
been
doing
with
the
supportive
permanently
supportive
housing
for
the
homeless
that
that's
an
important
part
of
your
housing
element.
K
So
they
continue
to
improve
existing
housing
staff.
The
city
does
have
a
few
programs
that
relate
to
housing
housing
conditions,
particularly
your
residential
resale
housing
program.
That
program
was
this
condition
discontinued
due
to,
I
believe,
funding.
But
one
of
the
suggestions
is
to
reinstate
that
in
the
future,
but
you
also
have
a
rental
rehab
program
that
you
you
work
with.
K
Community
non-profits
such
as
many
mansions
and
the
housing
authority
to
provide
multi-family
housing
opportunities
for
low-income
households
to
preserve,
affordable
housing
is
important,
but
that
is
also
an
existing
program
that
will
continue
and
the
last
set
of
programs
relate
to
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
State
law
is
pretty
restrictive
in
terms
of
how
the
city
needs
to
pursue
fair
housing,
rules,
outreach
and
education,
promoting
housing,
mobility,
providing
new
opportunities
in
high
resource
areas
and
neighborhood
improvements.
Those
are
all
considered
to
be
fair
housing,
programs
and
actions.
K
K
The
state
has
60
days
to
look
at
the
housing
element.
We
heard
back
from
the
state
in
december
and
we
spent
the
next
month
or
so
to
make
other
revisions
that
we
feel
unnecessary
to
address
the
comments
from
the
state
and
we
had
the
planning
commission
meeting
back
on
january
10th
with
the
prime
minister
recommendation
for
adoption.
K
Our
reach
for
the
housing
armament
is
an
important
component
and
certainly
the
housing
element
which
was
conducted
in
in
conjunction
with
the
general
plan
update.
There
were
three
phases
of
the
outreach
exploring
existing
conditions
that
we
did
in
back
in
2019,
really
getting
community
input
on
what's
important
to
the
community.
K
K
K
The
next
two
slides
I
will
go
over
generally,
the
the
detail
comments
are
outlined
in
here,
but
we
we
received
comments
on
the
state
is
very
typical.
It's
it's
going
through
http
review.
It's
an
iterative
process.
No
jurisdiction
will
will
be
able,
to
you
know,
write
the
housing
element
and
and
get
approved
by
std
without
at
least
two
or
three
rounds
of
review
from
the
state.
The
first
set
of
comments
relates
to
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
K
K
We
rebalance
the
site's
inventory,
the
strategy
for
mixed
income,
to
make
sure
that
we
we
we
have
a
better
balance
of
the
sites
geographically
and
income
distribution
of
the
site's.
Geographically,
we've
also
added
discussions
about
what
are
the
new
actions
that
the
city
will
undertake
to
improve
conditions
in
certain
neighborhoods.
K
K
So
it's
inventory
just
thought
of
a
patient
pipeline
projects.
We
have
taken
back
comments
and-
and
we
looked
at
the
list
of
product
line
projects
that
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
provide
information
on
the
timeline
of
these
projects
when
they
were
approved
and
when
they're
expected
to
be
constructed
within
the
next
eight
years.
We
deleted
one
project
that
passed:
that's
still
under
review
right
now
as
a
pipeline
project
in
terms
of
the
site
inventory,
the
state
asks
us
for
about
zoning
information.
K
K
The
conclusion
is:
it's
relatively
unlikely
because
of
the
frequent
requests
that
the
city
received
on
rezoning
from
commercial
into
residential
this
day
also
questioned
about
the
small
sites
for
a
low
meeting
lower
income
arena.
We
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
small
sites.
We
only
used
a
couple
of
sites
that
total
and
83
units
in
sites
that
are
less
than
half
an
acre.
We
don't
really
need
it.
However.
K
K
K
We
looked
at
a
lot
of
the
the
mixed
use
destination.
Some
of
these
is
based
on
trends
that
again
we
for
how
people
been
developers
been
requesting
to
amend
the
general
plan
to
allow
housing,
and
also
there
are
some
areas
that
we're
looking
for,
particularly
with
the
mall
sites,
we're
only
looking
at
the
area.
That's
currently
used
as
parking,
so
in
terms
of
future
development,
it's
not
expected
that
the
existing
uses
will
will
go
away
or
entirely
go
away.
We're
only
utilizing
a
portion
of
the
homo
sites
and
particularly
focusing
on
just
parking
areas.
K
The
next
set
of
comments
relates
to
governmental
constraints
and
we
added
an
analysis
on
the
current
high
standards,
particularly
and,
and
so
one
of
the
response
that
we
have
is
in
developing
the
new
zoning
and
development
standards
to
implement
the
general
plan.
The
city
will
pay
particular
attention
to
appropriate
development
standards,
processing
and
permit
procedures.
K
The
state
has
questions
about
how
what
is
the
city's
procedures
for
processing
and
is
that
is
that
causing
delays
and
additional
costs
to
housing.
We
we
have
added
narrative
on
the
city's
procedure
and
findings
for
project
approval,
but,
most
importantly,
the
city
will
be
complying
with
objective
standards
based
on
sb
330
and
to
streamline
development
review
and
approval
process,
and
also,
there
is
a
buy
rate
approval
for
projects
that
has
20
affordable,
as
required
by
state
law.
K
Hopefully,
for
persons
with
disabilities,
the
state
has,
you
know
particularly
comment
on
that
and
wanted
cities
to
look
at
residential
care
facilities
serving
seven
or
more
persons.
The
housing
elements
being
added
to
revised,
to
show
that
the
city
will
look
at
its
zoning
provisions
and
amend
the
zoning
code
as
appropriate
to
address
potential
constraints
for
housing
for
persons
with
disabilities.
K
K
K
Households
that,
when
city
considering
affordable
housing,
the
city
will
pay
special
attention
to
these
groups.
Also,
the
last
I
think,
the
last
program
relating
to
housing
programs-
we've
revised
some
of
the
programs
to
address
our
potential
governmental
constraints,
as
it
relates
to
new
state
laws.
K
Effh,
I
think,
throughout
the
programs
from
17
14
to
17,
we
added
more
specific
actions
and
goals
that
the
city
will
undertake
to
undertake
to
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
and
to
promote
the
city
will
also
promote
grants
available
for
home
to
homeowners
when
it
comes
to
developing
adu's
the
state.
California,
finance
housing
agency
does
have
a
grant
of
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
available
to
homeowners
interested
in
building
adus.
P
T
Pursuant
to
the
findings
contained
in
the
resolution
also
find
that
the
item
is
exempt
from
cq
pursuant
to
the
california
code
of
regulations
15061b3,
and
on
that
note,
actually
I
do
have
an
adjustment
to
make
within
the
resolution,
which
is
an
attachment
one
section
two
under
finding
number
four.
We
would
like
to
remove
the
wording
for
government
code
and
replace
it
with
the
california
code
of
regulations,
just
to
be
precise
about
that
section
that
we're
referring
to
under
sequa.
T
T
C
L
L
T
T
Council,
member
de
la
pena,
I
think,
you're
not
referring
to
attachment
six
but
attachment
six
is
the
the
edits
to
the
soar
and
measure
e
section.
But
in
regards
to
your
question
on
page
78,
that's
essentially
citing
programs
that
exist
through
southern
california,
edison
and
the
gas
company,
and
so
those
are
incentive
programs
that
are
out
there,
and
so
basically
the
section
is
just
providing
that
background
information.
I
Veronica,
no,
I
I
I
would
like
to
leave
it
in
there
before
we
make
a
move
like
that.
I
think
council
should
weigh
in
on
this,
and
I
am
one
to
leave
it
up
to
the
open
market
and
natural
gas
versus
all
electric
to
say
that
we
are
trying
to
move
in
that
direction.
I
think,
is
a
falsehood
and
incorrect
statement.
So
I'd
like
to
open
up
the
council
for
discussion
on
that.
Mr
mayor.
L
C
I
M
M
The
purpose
of
the
housing
element
is
to
focus
on
housing
mandates
and
those
housing
mandates
are
strictly
set
forth
by
the
state
under
hcd,
so
the
housing
element
is
very
different
than
the
other
elements
in
the
city.
The
reason
why
we're
doing
the
entire
comprehensive
general
plan
is
to
provide
us
more
latitude
to
look
at
other
types
of
policies
such
as
energy
type
policies,
environmental
sustainability
policies
etc,
and
those
are
going
to
be
looked
at
in
other
elements
of
the
of
the
general
plan,
not
necessarily
in
this
housing
element.
L
L
L
Thank
you.
No,
that's
that's
good
to
know
because
then
it
means
we
can
take
it
out
because
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
housing
element
and
we
will
discuss
energy,
reliability
and
all
of
that
separately.
So
I
I
I'm
suggesting
to
my
colleagues
to
eliminate
that
and
then
my
second
question
is
the
on
page
48
and
I'm
I'm
reading
from
the
conejo
climate
coalition
letter
that
every
council
member
received
on
page
48
refers
to
title
24
building
standards
from
2009,
although
we
do
have
really
adoption
of
2019
building
standards.
L
T
L
Very
good,
okay,
so
then
that
is
addressed
and
then
my
third
question
is-
and
this
has
been
talked
about
for
quite
some
time
now
since
the
beginning
of
last
year,
which
is
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
it
says
in
the
housing
element
we're
now.
Instead
of
we
were
initially
hoping
to
discuss
it
last
summer,
we
didn't
get
to
it
now.
It
says
2000
december
of
2023
is
this.
T
Ken
councilmember,
the
the
date
identified
for
the
completion
of
the
housing
or
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
and
the
non-residential
linkage
fee
update,
was
basically
to
allow
some
cushion
it
is
already
underway.
An
rfp
has
been
released.
It
is
the
staff's
preference
in
to
complete
it
within
2022..
T
L
I
You
mayor,
mr
holt,
you
mentioned
that
the
question
on
energy,
natural
gas
versus
electric
and
so
forth.
That
was
there
for
informational
purposes
because
that's
out
there
in
other
programs
and
so
forth,
is
there
any
other
informational
aspects
of
the
report
that
you
have
in
there
that
are
not
compelled
for
the
housing
element.
T
Well,
to
be
frank,
I
mean
you
have
attachment
six,
which
provides
I
mean.
So
let
me
step
back
for
a
second
in
terms
of
you
know
the
energy
topics.
You
know
those
are
under
the
housing
constraints
or
opportunities,
and
so
there's
a
whole
background
section
that
talks
about
energy
conservation
opportunities
and
that's
where
some
of
the
language
as
far
as
meeting
title
24
and
then
under
the
constraints
there
is
the
discussion
of
you
know
what
needs
to
be
done,
also
included.
T
We
have
done
some
edits
to
the
background
information
for
soar,
save
our
agricultural
resources
and
the
parks
initiative,
as
well
as
measure
e.
We
did
receive
some
correspondence
and
we
felt
that,
in
order
to
address
that,
we
could
clean
up
those
sections.
However,
the
those
corrections
have
no
bearing
whatsoever
on
the
housing
programs
that
are
before
you
tonight
and
the
actions
contained
there.
E
If
I
can
help
clarify
this
item,
the
housing
element
in
general
includes
a
lot
of
background
information
and
information
just
in
general,
and
it
goes
to
set
the
stage
for
the
housing
element
and
to
help
the
reader
understand
the
full
picture
of
what's
going
on.
So
not
every
line
of
every
section
is
literal
in
terms
of
a
goal
or
policy
of
the
housing
element.
I
O
Oh,
thank
you
mayor
yeah.
I
mean
just
looking
at
the
housing
element
to
me.
It's
really
a
policy
document,
it's
not
an
implementation
tool
and
I
don't
have
any
problem,
keeping
energy
information
in
there,
because
I
don't
really
think
it's
it's
binding
per
se.
What's
binding
and
what
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
act
on
later
is
our
climate
and
our
environmental
action
plan.
O
If
you
all
remember,
that's
being
worked
on
right
now,
it's
going
to
be
included
in
the
general
plan
update,
that's
where
the
work
will
get
done.
You
know
that
customer
bill
le
pena
is
talking
about
that's
the
implementation
part
and
as
far
as
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
you
know
a
lot
goes
into
that
and
there's
a
lot
to
think
about.
You
got
to
get
an
rfp
out
there.
O
We
need
a
nexus
study
and
again
that
that
is
the
implementation
part
of
the
housing
element
plan,
and
you
know,
if
staffs
need
some
time
to
get
it
right.
I
say
give
them
the
time.
I'm
sure
they'll
try
to
get
it
done
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
I'm
not
so
sure
I
want
to
put
a
time
limit
on
it.
For
them,
because
this
is
is,
as
claudia
said,
it's
a
big
issue
and
I
certainly
want
time
to
think
about
it
and
debate
it
and
talk
about
it.
C
L
L
E
T
So
er
er
yeah.
So
that's
basically
the
answer
for
that-
and
I
mean
oh-
and
I
mean
I
mean
part
of
the
suggestion-
was
to
replace
the
existing
program
that
we
have.
That
is
a
bi-annual
every
two-year
workshop,
but
that
workshop
is
specific
to
evaluate
the
site's
inventory.
The
sites
that
become
available
identified
in
the
housing
element
to
have
discussions
with
developers
and
the
non-profit
builders
to
basically
evaluate
the
feasibility
and
to
help
promote
development
on
those
sites.
E
L
K
Now
the
state
is
using
the
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
rule
as
a
way
to
for
jurisdiction
to
really
look
at
what
about
residential
care
facilities
for
seven
or
more
and
so
the
city.
The
state
wants
the
city
to
really
look
at
the
way
you
currently
permit
it
or
prohibit
or
conditionally
permit
it
and
see
if
there
are
ways
to
facilitate
residential
care
facilities
for
seven
or
more
persons.
K
C
I
think
this
builder's
opinion
at
the
time
of
when
we
go
into
voting.
We
can.
We
can
bring
that
up
again
at
that
time
and
do
an
individual
vote
if
you
want
on
something
like
that,
but
right
now
I'd
like
to
get
to
council
member
adam
for
another
question,
and
just
we
do
have
a
quite
a
few
public
speakers
that
I'd
I'd
like
to
hear
from
as
well.
K
C
D
D
Great,
I
didn't
know
that
I
would
be
first,
so
it
took
me
a
while
to
to
come
on.
Thank
you
very
much
for
taking
a
look
at
this
housing
element
critically.
I
appreciate
all
of
the
comments
that
council
have
made
so
far.
I
would
like
to
bring
up,
just
as
I
did
before,
planning
commission
the
idea
that
the
city
conduct
an
annual
workshop
with
affordable
housing
advocates,
affordable
housing,
builders
and
market
rate
builders
to
discuss
the
city's
annual
progress
in
implementing
the
adopted
housing
element.
D
The
purpose
of
the
workshop
will
be
to
review
progress
toward
the
housing
element,
goals
and
objectives
and
to
evaluate
the
effectiveness
of
individual
housing
element
programs
and
to
consider
actions
that
will
improve
our
outcomes.
The
results
of
the
workshop
will
be
provided
to
the
planning,
commission
and
city
council,
including
any
recommendations
for
improvement.
D
If
we
find
that
the
housing
element
is
failing
and
we
are
not
meeting
the
goal
set
out
by
the
state,
why
wouldn't
we
want
to
make
changes?
This
is
an
eight-year
contract
with
the
state.
The
housing
and
community
development
division
is
now
has
is
staffing
up
a
25-person
enforcement
division
and
they
will
be
looking
at
people's
progress.
They've
said
they
will
also
be
doing
a
review
every
four
years.
D
There
are
a
lot
of
zoning
regulations
which
are
outside
of
the
housing
element
that
we
could
be
improving
to
increase
our
ability
to
build,
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
This
idea
that
we
have
to
revisit
the
housing
element
every
year.
If
we
have
a
formal
look
at
it
is,
I
think,
just
not
the
case,
because
so
much
of
what
makes
things
better
are
outside
of
the
helmet,
a
hosting.
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
clint
folks,
I'm
a
member
of
the
canadia
climate
coalition
and
I
live
in
thousand
oaks.
We
here
in
the
canao
valley
truly
have
so
much
to
be
thankful
for
and
what's
more,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
protect
what
we
already
have
by
ensuring
that
the
city
can
meet
the
housing
needs
of
all
thousand
oaks
residents
facing
a
future
impacted
by
climate
change.
We
need
to
ensure
housing
for
all
of
our
resident
residents,
not
just
the
wealthy,
and
we
can
do
that
by
prioritizing
access
to
affordable
housing.
Q
Essential
workers
have
been
on
the
front
lines
of
the
code
19
pandemic,
and
yet
many
of
us
can
barely
afford
to
make
ends
meet
due
to
high
housing
costs.
The
housing
element
needs
to
address
the
housing
crisis
while
at
the
same
time
promoting
green
building
and
energy
efficient
building
standards
that
exceed
title
24.
We
must
electrify
everything,
build
with
sustainable
building
materials
and
prioritize
solar
power
systems
with
battery
backup.
Q
That
is
why
we
are
recommending
the
city
immediately:
research,
the
feasibility
funding
and
benefits
of
adopting
an
all-electric
reach
code
and
retrofit
program
in
its
current
iteration.
The
housing
element
fails
to
address
the
preservation
of
housing,
as
it
relates
to
the
potential
loss
of
vital
housing
stock
due
to
inevitable
climate-related
extreme
weather
impacts,
including
concurrent
or
serial
heat
waves,
extreme
drought,
wildfire
and
wind
events.
Climate
change
is
a
threat
multiplier
and
any
problems
we
have
now
will
only
be
made
worse
in
the
coming
years.
A
A
I
also
want
to
echo
marian's
ask
for
a
commitment
to
the
city
to
be
accountable
somewhere
along
the
line
through
the
the
housing
element
cycle,
so
that
we
can
adjust
and
make
changes
as
necessary
where
things
are
not
working.
I
realize
that
once
a
year
is
not
real,
really
feasible,
but
I
think
maybe
once
every
four
years
middle
of
the
cycle
should
be
something
we
can
do.
A
A
P
Mayor
and
council
members,
I
want
to
quickly
thank
the
council
for
unanimously
passing
the
shangri-la
project,
as
jackson
just
mentioned.
I
think
that's
so
cool
and
very
excited
about
that,
but
regarding
the
housing
element,
I
think
that
you
have
a
really
wonderful
opportunity
in
front
of
you
to
guide
our
beautiful
city
into,
what's
most
likely
a
difficult
future
and
an
uncertain
one.
P
The
city
should
also
immediately
start
researching
the
feasibility
funding
mechanisms
and
benefits
of
adopting
an
all-electric
reach
code
and
retrofit
program.
Both
the
housing
element
and
the
safety
element,
as
mentioned
in
the
housing
element,
should
acknowledge
plan
for
and
address
the
increasing
and
future
impacts
of
climate
change
to
preserve
existing
thousand
oaks
housing
stock
city
council
members.
We
also
believe
should
keep
the
public
apprised
of
the
progress
made
through
regularly
scheduled
staff
reports
presented
at
notice
council
meetings
to
ensure
that
the
city
is
meeting
its
obligations.
M
M
Would
you
please
consider
making
an
addition
to
the
housing
element
to
help
address
this
issue
under
goal
number
two
of
the
housing
plan?
Please
add
the
creation
of
a
community
partner
group
from
across
the
developmental
services,
affordable,
housing
and
homeless
sectors
to
develop
an
inclusive,
empowering
and
supportive
housing
plan
for
people
with
developmental
disabilities
in
our
community.
M
M
One
of
the
biggest
struggles
that
families
like
mine
face
is
that
we
are
constantly
having
to
convince
other
people,
especially
those
in
power,
that
our
kids
are
worth
it
that
they
matter.
I
recently
heard
another
parent
sum
up:
this
sentiment
with
a
mantra
that
she
borrowed
from
a
favorite
tv
character,
everybody
counts
or
nobody
counts.
M
P
Greenhouse
gas
pollution,
increased
6.2
percent
over
2020,
rising
ghds
drive,
heat
drought
and
fire
that
guts
housing
displacing
ever
more
people,
destruction
of
some
1100
homes
in
boulder
suburbs,
where
firefighters
were
helpless
to
stop
a
winter
firestorm
that
burned
entire
neighborhoods
shows
how
fast
housing
is
being
lost
to
extreme
weather.
The
climate
crisis
is
a
housing
crisis.
P
California
requires
housing
elements
to
include
both
housing
development
and
preservation,
including
no
climate
mitigation
in
our
housing
element,
is
negligent,
short-sighted
and
fiscally
irresponsible.
Our
whole
community
knows
like
colorado.
We
will
face
a
wind-driven
wildfire
where
evacuation
is
our
only
defense.
P
California
encourages
cities
to
adopt
energy
efficient
building
codes
that
exceed
state
standards.
Ccc
urges
this
council
to
require
housing
element,
changes
that
at
least
adopt
the
2022
building
codes,
so
we
can
reap
their
energy
conservation,
fiscal
health,
safety
and
climate
advantages
now
boulder
shows
we've
no
time
to
lose.
Thank
you.
D
D
My
oldest
is
23
years
old
and
reaps
the
benefits
of
living
in
thousand
oaks.
He
has
peers
and
allies
and
thousand
notes,
because
he
has
lived
here.
His
whole
life.
Individuals
like
him
want
to
live
independently.
Parents,
like
me,
often
care
for
our
children
well
into
our
retirement
when
we
likely
need
to
care
ourselves.
D
D
D
D
D
As
part
of
goal
two
of
the
housing
plan,
would
you
please
add
the
creation
of
a
community
partner
group
to
develop
an
inclusive,
empowering
and
supportive
housing
plan
for
people
with
idd
in
our
community?
I
would
like
for
my
children
to
be
able
to
live
and
thrive
as
adults
in
the
city.
They
call
home.
My
boys
and
others
like
them,
are
counting.
L
D
D
D
D
D
This
housing
is
desperately
needed
by
our
growing
biotechnology
sector
to
provide
for
the
thousands
of
employees
they
intend
to
hire.
It
is
a
statutory
requirement
of
each
city
in
california
to
update
their
housing
element
every
eight
years
and
a
new
housing
and
new
housing
must
be
added
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
next
arena
cycle.
D
A
Good
evening,
good
evening,
mary
engler,
council,
members
and
city
staff,
my
name
is
tim
mcdougall.
I
am
a
resident
of
newbury
park
and,
as
we've
heard
tonight,
we
need
all
types
of
housing,
not
just
affordable
or
or
we
just
need
all
types
of
housing
for
our
residents,
and
this
plan
has
been
put
before
you.
A
lot
of
effort
has
gone
into
it.
A
A
I
believe
that
every
person
should
be
given
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
have
housing,
but
first
we
need
to
provide
job
opportunities,
local
residents,
to
pay
a
livable
wage,
so
we
can
afford
the
housing
in
our
area.
We
do
this
by
having
a
local
hiring
clause
on
any
housing
development
that
is
being
built
within
the
city,
with
the
skilled
and
trained
local
workforce
that
gives
local
residents
an
opportunity
to
uplift
themselves,
give
them
the
chance
to
stay
one
day
to
purchase
a
home
like
myself
as
a
skilled
tradesman.
A
I
just
want
to
close
by
saying
that
more
than
ever,
residents
need
and
deserve
good
housing,
but
let's
not
forget
that
they
also
need
good
paying
jobs,
so
we
can
lift
them,
so
they
can
lift
themselves
out
of
the
low
income,
housing
and
empower
them
to
have
a
livable
wage.
Remember,
affordable
housing
is
not
guaranteed.
A
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
There
earlier
I
heard
some
comments
regarding
shangri-la
and
prevailing
wage,
so
with
with
shangri-la
being
out
of
the
alley
area,
they're
bringing
all
their
workforce
in
from
l.a
and
there's
plenty
of
contractors
that
do
work
in
this
area
and
and
can
provide
a
local
workforce
and
another
thing
that
was
mentioned
with
the
prevailing
wage.
Yes,
they
turn
in
records.
Yes,
they
turn
in
certified
payroll,
but
who
checks
that?
Do
you
guys
check
that
or
does
just
because
they
say
they
have
an
in-house
labor
compliance
department?
D
D
Good
evening
mayor,
it's
been
a
long
one
so
far
so
council,
members
and
staff,
my
name
is
jonathan
duran,
I'm
also
representing
muscle,
carpenter,
local
805
and
also
a
resident
of
newbury
park.
My
son's,
my
oldest,
goes
to
sequoia.
My
middle
son
goes
to
banyan.
My
daughter
goes
to
newberry
oaks
over
in
dos
vientos.
D
So
as
a
carpenter,
hey,
that's
our
dream
to
be
able
to
own
our
house,
be
able
to
have
opportunity
to
purchase
something
for
myself,
I'm
a
third
generation
carpenter.
So
I
understood
what
the
value
was
coming
in
to
the
trade
to
see
my
grandfather
be
able
to
build
a
lot
of
homes
here
in
the
kennel
valley,
simi
valley
and
ventura
county.
Also
with
my
father
and
then
as
myself.
I
also
built
a
lot
of
infrastructure
throughout
the
county
in
santa
barbara
and
throughout
other
counties,
but
as
a.
D
D
D
D
D
Came
before
me
have
pretty
much
been
describing
me,
I'm
a
working
member
out
in
the
field
I
live
here.
I
build
here
I
play
here.
Well,
that's
what's
supposed
to
happen,
but
unfortunately
I
have
to
travel
all
the
way
down
to
long
beach
or
la
to
find
work
right
now.
I
heard
a
few
comments
earlier
on
with
a
bit
of
animosity
towards
the
union,
but
I
mean
think
about
it
guys.
If
we
live
in
canejo
valley,
we
want
to
be
able
to
come
home
every
night.
D
We
want
to
see
our
families
we
want
to
raise
them
properly
so
that
we
don't
have
these
problems
again.
That
leads
to
homelessness.
So
what
we
ask
for
you
guys
is
when
you're
going
to
be
building
in
the
area.
Please
consider
a
local
workforce,
hiring
clause.
Now
I
heard
some
people
say
oh
yeah,
but
we're
going
to
hire
a
local
contractor
out
of
la
well,
that's
all
very
well.
You
may
hire
a
local
contractor
out
of
la,
but
then
he's
going
to
sub
the
work
to
the
cheapest
guy.
D
It's
exactly
what
was
happening
over
in
simi
valley.
They
hired
a
local
contractor
who
pulled
some
guys
from
texas.
So
now
a
crew
comes
into
texas
who
don't
spend
their
money
here,
no
money
stays
in
the
community.
We
don't
raise
any
taxes
and
it's
basically
a
vicious
circle
where
we
keep
the
money
low
in
our
area.
D
So
again,
going
back
to
workforce
community
agreement
where
we
can
live
here,
work
here
and
build
here
going
back
to
some
of
the
other
comments,
too,
is
oh
well.
You
should
keep
a
team
together
because
they'll
work
better
together
in
the
union
world
brothers.
We
we
work
together
on
a
daily
basis
just
on
different
projects.
So
please
don't
ever
think
that,
because
we're
called
a
union
and
not
a
certain
company,
that
we
don't
work
well
together.
D
Another
comment
that
was
raised
is
felt
like
you
guys
are
almost
implying
that
we
make
too
much
well,
let's
see
how
much
do
we
make?
We
get
45
bucks
an
hour,
then
20
in
benefits.
That's
65
bucks
an
hour
and
you're
saying
we
make
three
times
as
much
as
a
as
a
non-union
person.
Well
so
you're
saying
I
should
make
20
bucks
an
hour.
How
can
I
afford
to
live
in
thousand
oaks
on
20
bucks
an
hour
guys
the
inflation's
getting
worse,
things
are
getting
more
expensive.
You
guys
need
to
be
realistic.
D
P
However,
here
are
some
ways
that
the
housing
element
can
be
bolstered
to
address
our
code
red
climate
condition.
The
housing
element
must
acknowledge
that
housing
and
our
climate
crises
are
interconnected.
Building
accounts
for
24
percent
of
greenhouse
gases
in
thousand
oaks.
Reducing
greenhouse
gases
from
buildings
can
be
achieved
by
including
incentives
to
exceed
2019
title
24.
Building
standards
such
as
density
bonuses,
decreased
setbacks,
prioritizing
plan
checks
and
permitting
for
zero
net
energy
projects
and
regarding
the
title
24
on
standard
dates,
2009
is
noted
on
page
43,
while
on
page
77
2019
standards
are
referenced.
P
With
regard
to
affordability,
a
topic
that
has
been
raised
and
discussed
for
new
residential
developments
submitted
for
approval
to
the
city
council,
who
acknowledges
the
need
and
yet
fails
to
insist
these
units
be
included
to
ensure
affordable
units
are
built.
We
recommend
a
new
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
be
adopted
this
year
and,
lastly,
accountability.
P
A
plan
that
can
be
measured
will
keep
the
city
on
track.
We're
recommending
wording
be
added
that
the
city
have
a
yearly
review
of
progress
on
its
housing
element
and
half
staff
present
the
report
to
the
city
council.
Again,
we
understand
that
time
is
of
the
instance
in
submitting
the
housing
element
to
the
state.
Asking
staff
to
focus
on
these
few
changes
will
yield
big
benefits
to
our
city.
Thank
you.
M
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
as
a
long
time
thousand
oaks
resident,
I
have
some
thoughts
as
you
consider
the
current
updated
draft
of
the
housing
element
which
will
serve
as
a
blueprint
for
housing
needs
and
gold
of
our
city
for
the
next
eight
years.
I'm
so
inspired
by
so
many
passionate
residents
who've
spoken
tonight.
M
I
don't
want
to
discount
the
hard
work
by
staff
that
goes
into
a
massive
planning
document
such
as
this,
but
we
must
acknowledge
that
the
current
version
of
the
element
is
not
robust
or
intentional
enough
in
providing
what's
needed
to
increase
the
diversity
of
housing
in
our
city
at
bare
minimum.
It
needs
stronger,
committal
language
and
better
accountability
measures.
We
shouldn't
settle
for
adequate.
We
failed
in
the
last
housing
cycle.
Why
not
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
ensure
that
we
don't
fail
again?
M
Why
fight
accountability
and
transparency
planning
commission
chair
newman
chose
to
vote
against
this
current
version
of
the
housing
element.
He
felt
that
an
opportunity
had
been
missed
to
produce
a
more
committal
document,
one
that
improves
access
to
housing
for
all
thousand
oaks
residents.
I
agree
the
lack
of
clear
and
decisive
wording
and
unwillingness
to
include
stronger
review
mechanisms
makes
me
wonder
if
this
city
actually
wants
to
create
the
affordable
and
accessible
housing
it
needs.
M
Finally,
I'm
so
glad
that
project
homekey
was
on
the
agenda.
Tonight.
Council
showed
his
support
to
help
those
who
are
unhoused
with
a
5-0
vote
to
approve.
We
know
that
a
root
cause
of
the
unhoused
crisis
in
california
is
the
lack
of
affordable
housing.
Actually,
it's
any
type
of
housing.
So,
let's
be
a
part
of
the
solution
by
addressing
the
root
cause
of
homelessness.
By
doing
what
our
city
needs
to
do,
to
create
the
opportunities
to
create
to
develop
more
housing.
Thank
you.
So
much.
P
P
Brief,
I
support
what
lisa
so
eloquently
spoke
and
other
residents
stating
that
this
housing
element
lacks
the
clear
supportive
language
to
show
the
city's
commitment
to
build,
affordable
housing.
I
understand
clearly
that
the
city
is
not
in
the
business
of
building
affordable
housing,
but
the
city
holds
the
civic
and
moral
responsibility
to
hold
developers
accountable
to
build
affordable
housing.
P
P
P
L
D
Oppose
the
8a
housing
element
because
there
are
not
clear
guidelines
that
make
affordable
housing
accessible
and
a
reality.
I'll
speak
from
personal
experience.
I
was
born
and
raised
in
the
kaneho
valley.
I
absolutely
love
it
here.
I
went
to
uc
berkeley
and
ucla
to
amazing
schools.
I
also
incurred
an
incredible
amount
of
student
debt.
So
coming
back
to
my
hometown,
where
I
was
born
and
raised
where
I
would
love
to
give
back,
it's
not
a
reality.
D
I
can't
afford
to
live
here,
so
I
mean
I
I
oppose
this,
and
I
really
hope
that
you
all
can
find
it
in
your
hearts
to
think
of
the
community
members
here:
the
teachers,
the
people
who
are
really
hard-working
and
love
this
community
to
make
affordable
housing
a
reality.
I
think
it
really
gets
a
bad
rap,
so
I
really
hope
that
we
can
make
this
a
reality.
I've
seen
this
for
over
30
40
years
that
it
keeps
getting
passed
around
and
passed
around
and
it's
not
a
reality.
D
C
R
Thank
you,
mayor
engler.
I
know
that
a
number
of
our
staff
team
will
have
some
answers
to
more
technical
aspects
of
questions
and
points
that
were
brought
up,
but
I
did
want
to
touch
on
just
one
high
level
piece,
just
as
a
reminder-
and
I
know
that
veronica
tam
mentioned
it
during
her
presentation,
but
it
it
bears
repeating
and
reminding
because
you
know,
I
think
we
are
have.
A
lot
of
folks
are
very
passionate
about
housing
policy.
R
R
The
the
city
council's
affirmation
of
an
of
a
permanent
supportive
housing
project
that
moved
forward
city
council
also
has
advanced
a
a
project
at
the
former
hillcrest
christian
school
site,
with
a
10
million
dollar
investment
to
acquire
property
with
the
intention
of
doing
affordable
housing
on
the
site.
I
mentioned
these
only
because
these
are
just
these
are
discretionary
dollars.
R
R
Some
of
that
was
in
rehab
construction.
You
know
things
like
the
shiloh
gardens
which
or
shadow
hills.
You
know
projects
that
folks
may
or
may
not
be
familiar,
that
it
was
the
city
that
funded
those
projects.
You
look
at
chillow
gardens.
I
pulled
up
some
some
numbers,
the
city
put
in
10.8
billion
dollars
into
that.
So
it's
just
a
reminder
that
you
know
we
all
would
like
there
to
be
a
a
magic
fix
to
this,
but
it
does
require
funding.
R
It
does
require
cooperation,
and
the
city
has
a
role
to
play
and
those
that
are
passionate
and
advocate
about
this.
I
would
encourage
them
to
also
advocate
in
sacramento
for
funding
streams.
The
way
we're
able
to
pull
projects
like
the
one
we
had
earlier
tonight
is
because
there's
state
funds
being
attached
to
the
priority,
and
we
do
need
to
see
more
of
that,
I'm
going
to
pass
it
over
to
kelvin.
E
Thank
you
drew
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
reiterate.
As
we
begin
to
respond
to
some
of
the
comments
that
we
just
heard
is.
The
purpose
of
the
housing
element
from
a
city
perspective
is
to
provide
adequate
sites
for
the
future
building
of
housing
to
suit
various
housing
types
and
need
categories
throughout
the
city.
E
The
primary
purpose
of
this
element
is
to
satisfy
the
state
requirements,
which
are
quite
strict,
quite
astringent,
and
very
detailed
of
what
they're
looking
for
to
lay
a
broad
policy
framework
of
our
plan
for
the
next
eight
years.
The
plan
will
not
be
realized
in
year,
one
two
or
three.
It
is
truly
an
eight-year
plan
for
strategic
and
managed
growth
throughout
the
city
to
meet
the
needs,
as
defined
by
the
state.
E
E
T
Thank
you,
kelvin,
just
to
start
off
and
actually
to
tail
off
of
what
you
were
saying,
kelvin
about
it
being
an
eight-year
plan.
The
city
we
do
conduct
our
annual
progress
reports,
which
is
the
sole
purpose,
is
to
monitor
and
to
report
that
progress
to
hcd,
and
you
know
with
the
various
legislation.
T
What
is
the
appropriate
percentage
that
would
fit
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
the
market
that
it's
in
here
and
and
the
development
potential
that
we
allow
all
those
things
that
need
to
be
evaluated
to
create
a
realistic
percentage
and
not
necessarily
an
arbitrarily
one,
an
arbitrary
percentage
to
providing
affordable
housing
within
projects,
and
the
same
goes
for
the
fee.
You
can't
establish
a
fee
without
a
nexus
study
and
those
will
take
time
and
then
ultimately,
the
fees
will
need
to
be
discussed
and
agreed
upon
by
the
city
council.
T
In
terms
of
the
comments
regarding
you
know,
energy
and
water
conservation,
those
will
be
addressed
in
the
conservation
element
as
part
of
the
general
plan
update,
as
well
as
any
kind
of
reach
codes
are
going
to
potentially
exceed
any
kind
of
california
green
building
code
requirements
that
would
have
to
be
addressed
during
the
building
code
updates,
the
city
every
three
years
as
this
california
updates.
It's
quick.
T
T
Six,
I
mean
it.
It
is
specific
for
lower
income,
households
and
those
with
special
housing
needs,
and
there
are
goals
in
there
that
include,
or
within
the
program
components
such
as
encouraging,
affordable
housing
providers
to
give
priority
to
housing
needs
of
persons
with
disabilities,
including,
but
not
limited
to
persons
with
developmental
disabilities
and
then
there's
objectives
within
that.
Furthermore,
as
part
of
the
zoning
code
amendment
package,
we
will
need
to
update
our
residential
care
facilities
for
seven
or
more.
T
T
T
There
were
comments
about
from
the
climate
coalition
regarding
you
know,
added
incentives
for
density
bonuses.
I
mean
there
is
a
program
that
we
have
now
to
update,
that
per
state
law
and-
and
you
know
given
actually
the
makeup
of
you-
know
the
current
land
use
and
even
the
proposed
land
use
density.
P
I'd
like
to
just
add
one
thing,
thank
you
for
all
the
comments.
We
appreciate
everyone's
interest
in
the
subject
there
is
kelvin
and,
and
mr
powers
and
mr
holt
have
all
covered
most
of
the
the
items
I
was
going
to
discover
cover.
However,
I
do
want
to
point
out
one
more
time
that
this
is
a
policy
document
and
within
it
we
have
11
goals
and
in
those
goals
there
are
identified
43
objectives
which
are
implementation,
actions
to
achieve
those
goals.
P
C
O
You
know
I
I
feel
compelled
to
add
on
to
what
our
city
manager
just
said
and
as
a
reminder.
What
he
said
was
that
when
it
comes
to
affordable
housing,
the
city,
in
my
opinion,
has
done
an
amazing
job.
When
we
have
redevelopment
funds,
I'm
repeating
what
drew
said,
we
spent
70
million
dollars
and
built.
I
had
2500
units
of
affordable
housing
built,
but
that's
not
the
end
of
it.
O
O
The
most
ever
the
lakes
project
we
extracted
13
million
dollars,
80
000
per
unit
to
use
for
affordable
house
the
timber
school
project
has
affordable
housing
units
in
it,
and
tonight
we
voted
on
the
quality
inn
which
it
doesn't
get
much
more
affordable
than
77
units
for
homeless.
Folks,
that's
about
as
forward
affordable
as
it
can
get.
So
this
implication
by
the
climate
coalition
that
somehow
we're
not
dedicated
to
affordable
housing
or
we're
ignoring
it.
That's
a
total
mischaracterization
period
and,
furthermore,
we'll
be
voting
on
the
general
plan
update.
O
O
So
hopefully,
this
time
around
the
climate
coalition
can
see
fit
to
support
that
notion,
because
it
has
a
direct
effect
and
you're
right.
Climate
coalition
housing
does
have
a
direct
effect
on
greenhouse
gases.
So
I
appreciate
your
support
when
that
issue
comes
around.
I
have
more
to
say,
but
I
I
just
want
people
to
know
where
this
council
is
on
this
issue
of
affordable
housing.
Thank
you.
B
T
Yes,
yes,
councilmember
jones,
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
it's
a
component
of
the
municipal
code
of
the
city
actually,
and
basically
inclusionary
housing
ordinances
have
one
of
two
components
or
could
have
one
or
two
components
to
it.
One
is
that
requiring
residential
development
and
there
might
be
some
set
parameters
as
far
as
the
size
of
the
development
or
the
type
of
development,
whether
it's
for
rent
or
for
sale
and
require
a
percentage
of
the
units
within
that
project
to
be
affordable.
B
T
T
So
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
in
the
event
that
you
don't
have
a
development
agreement
or
some
other
kind
of
legislative
act,
and
you
are
having
housing
development
by
right
in
a
land
use
category
or
a
zone.
Then
it
automatically
requires
a
development
per
code
to
provide
affordable
housing
or
pay
a
fee.
B
Yeah,
you
know
that
was
done
with
air
pollution
control.
A
lot
of
companies
that
were
polluting
could
keep
polluting
if
they
paid
a
fee.
I
mean,
if
you
keep
paying
a
fee
to
create,
affordable
housing,
you're,
not
creating
affordable
housing,
you're,
creating
a
fund
you're,
creating
a
fund
that
could
later
be
used
for
that
purpose,
but
drew
was
right
on
the
mark.
B
You
can't
just
legislate.
Let
me
just
finish:
you
can't
just
legislate
this
area
or
that
area
is
something
kelvin
said:
provide
adequate
sites
to
accommodate
housing
of
different.
You
know
levels
of
cost.
Well,
you
can't
just
designate
a
area
of
the
city
and
say
we'll
put
affordable
here
or
something
here.
B
T
B
C
L
L
A
lot
of
work
went
into
this
without
a
doubt
by
staff.
This
is
something
that
is
a
pretty
pretty
big
project
and
it
takes
time.
I
I
do
understand
that,
but
we
have
various
groups
this
evening.
I
know
one
was
mentioned
the
conejo
climate
coalition,
but
there
were
other
groups
that
spoke
tonight
about
affordable
housing,
so
it
wasn't
just
the
ccc,
and
I
think
we
by
now
understand
that
the
city
does
not
build
affordable
housing.
L
We
just
have
to
have
the
tools
to
give
to
developers
to
get
them
to
to
build
affordable
housing,
workforce
housing,
whatever
it
may
be,
so
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
is
something
that
is
very
important.
We
had
one
we,
we
have
a
an
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
right
now.
We
just
don't
have
an
in-lieu
fee
so,
and
it
has
been
talked
about
for
a
very
very
long
time,
several
years
now
and
yes,
it
is
extremely
frustrating
to
see
that
the
deadline
is
now
being
moved.
L
Yet
again
we
were
hoping
to
have
an
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
last
year
at
the
latest.
So
you
know
so
many
groups.
Here
we
have
the
carpenters
union
that
is
trying
in
there
at
every
meeting,
whether
it's
the
city
or
the
county,
or
at
lafco
they're,
they're
everywhere
and-
and
you
know,
the
message
is
strong:
they
want
local
labor
to
stay
local,
something
we
should
definitely
consider.
So.
K
I
think
in
general,
like
the
house
announcement,
you
can
go
as
far
as
you
you
want
to,
but
I
think
the
the
important
thing
that
staff
mention
is
funding.
That's
probably
the
most
critical
component
of
what
makes
affordable
housing
feasible
in
any
community,
but
that
you're
lacking,
certainly
working
on
your
inclusionary
housing
and
movie
in
the
future,
will
provide
you
a
little
bit
of
that.
The.
K
Capacity,
but
in
general
the
the
most
important
thing
is
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
land
use
capacity
and
you
have
the
development
standards.
You
have
the
appropriate
processes
to
to
to
remove
the
robux
and
then
think
the
other
thing
then,
then
you
will
be
you
can
look
at
is
how
do
you
increase
your
funding
capacity?
K
K
I
don't
know
if
there
is
any
particular
programs
or
that
the
staff
would
like
to
pursue
in
the
future
and
that
can
be
incorporated
into
the
housing
element.
But
the
most
important
thing
from
something
that
you
have
the
ability
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
you
provide
the
land,
use
capacity
capacity
and
remove
the
roadblocks.
L
K
I
think
the
the
the
city
you
have
to
evaluate
reality
and
like
market
conditions
that
you
have
right
now
and
then
you
don't
necessarily
have
a
historical
kind
of
trend
or
pattern
yet,
so
there
is
nothing
to
prevent
a
city
to
exceed
the
housing
element
and-
and
if
you,
as
you
start
implementing,
you
have
more
ability
and
opportunities
in
the
future,
there's
nothing
to
choose
just
because
your
health
wasn't
almost
like.
Just.
I
think
ian
mentioned
that
just
because
your
housing
element
said
that
you're
going
to
do
something
by
2023.
K
K
If
your
housing
element
says
that
you're
going
to
try
to
pursue
200
adus,
and
there
is
nothing
to
prevent
the
city
from
doing
more,
but
I
think
you
have
the
opportunity
also
as
part
of
the
overall
general
plan,
to
maybe
look
at
that
later
on
and
see
if
there
are
more
realistic
capacity
that
you
can
add.
Staffing
is
an
issue.
You
know.
I
think
I
want
to
be
cities
to
be
realistic.
K
One
thing
you'd
want
to
avoid
is
to
be
overly
aggressive
and
then
not
delivering.
I
think
that
would
be
very
difficult
to
to
when
you
submit
your
apr
to
the
state
and
year
after
year
and
and
the
accomplishment
is
not
accomplished
not
yet
accomplished
not
yet
accomplished.
I
think
that
would
reflect
poorly
on
the
city,
but
if
you
over
deliver
it's
a
better
message
to
the
state.
R
If
I,
if
I
may
councilmember
bill,
I
think
one
great
example
to
build
on
what
veronica
just
said
is
the
item
that
the
council
advanced
earlier
this
evening,
assuming
it
moves
forward
and
is
constructed
the
permanent
support,
supportive
housing,
77
units-
that's
not
included
in
our
current
housing
element
that
didn't
preclude
us
from
bringing
it
forward
and
the
council
from
advancing
it
and
that
we'll
we'll
receive
credit
accordingly
for
it.
So
we're
already
exceeding
in
that
regard,.
L
Yes,
and
and
also
with
an
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
if
we
have
an
in-lieu
fee,
for
example,
that
is
a
fee
that
goes
to
a
fund,
and
we
cannot
really
do
anything
with
that
money
until
we
have
enough
in
that
fund.
So
having
payments
made
out
over
35
years
or
so
is
not
necessarily
taking
care
of
the
workforce,
housing
crisis
that
we
have
now.
So
I'm
I'm
just.
L
So,
instead
of
putting
in
a
consent
calendar,
maybe
it
should
be
really
a
full
department
report
where
people
can
have
input
it's
instead
of
pulling
it
from
the
consent
calendar
just
something
to
keep
the
people
in
the
loop
just
to
have
complete
transparency
yeah.
It's
you
know,
it's
it's
not
great,
but
we
we
are
on
deadline.
I
guess
I
don't
know
it's
just
a
little
unsettling.
Thank
you.
O
Thanks
bob
yeah,
this
inclusion,
we
talked
about
it
here,
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
and
the
non-residential
linkage
fee.
It's
really
not
actually
on
the
agenda,
but
the
nexus
study
will
give
us
all
the
information
and
all
the
parameters
we
need
to
make
an
intelligent
assessment
of
how
we
need
to
handle
that
that
ordinance,
but
right
now
what
we
have
are
development
agreements
with
projects
whereby
we
can
insist
on
affordable
housing,
and
we
have
done
just
that
and
we're
getting
that.
O
I
mean
it
just
takes
a
yes
vote
from
council
members
to
make
that
happen
and
that's
coming
up,
particularly
with
the
kmart
project.
It's
due
in
a
few
months
and
we'll
see
where
we
go
with
that,
but
that's
going
to
have
at
least
50,
affordable
units.
I
just
I
just
want
to
bring
up
one
thing,
though,
that
there's
for
me
anyway,
there's
a
lesson
to
be
learned
in
this
housing
element
that
really
struck
me
about
the
demographics
in
our
city.
O
O
That's
up
36,
the
the
declining
group
in
the
city
are
kid
kids
to
me:
they're
kids,
people
between
the
ages
of
25
and
44
that
group's
declining
it's
going
backwards.
We've
lost
10
percent.
I
mean
there's
really
a
lesson
to
be
learned
from
this
and
it
was
rather
eye-opening
to
read
this
housing
element
and
see
these
kind
of
numbers
not
to
mention
you
know
our
housing
growth
over
the
last
10
years.
Is
it's
been
small,
but
it's
getting
better,
it's
getting
better,
so
affordable
housing.
O
Yes,
we
need
it,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
market
rate
housing
isn't
so
bad
either,
and
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
example,
the
1710
project
that
was
approved
on
the
boulevard,
it's
our
first
mixed-use
project
in
the
history
of
the
city.
It's
got
36
units
in
it,
so
I
talked
to
the
owner
of
the
project
just
recently.
It's
a
market
rate
project
because
there's
been
a
notion
out
there
that
somehow
young
people
can't
afford
market
rate
only
seniors
can
afford.
You
know
they've
accumulated
enough
money
to
afford
this
kind
of
project.
O
O
O
Furthermore,
as
we
speak,
there's
a
hundred
and
eight
people
on
the
waiting
list
to
get
into
1710
108
people-
and
this
is
a
market
rate
project
all
right,
so
our
young
people
can
afford
to
live
in
these
kind
of
places
they
want
to
live
in
these
kind
of
places
they
want
to
live
in
a
vibrant,
downtown,
attractive
type
environment.
So
this
bow
as
well
for
the
caruso
project
behind
the
lakes.
O
This
bodes
well
for
299
and
it's
it's
not
just
seniors
that
can
afford
these
types
of
projects,
I'm
not
trying
to
say
we
don't
need
affordable,
but
we
need
a
mix
of
housing
and
I
think
the
facts
behind
1710
illustrate
that
90
between
the
ages
of
25
and
45,
maybe
I'm
wrong.
But
I
think
this
is
the
kind
of
demographic
we're
trying
to
attract
to
the
city,
because
the
aging
city,
although
there's
nothing,
inherently
wrong
with
that
that
in
the
long
run,
I
don't
believe
it's
sustainable
to
keep
the
city
moving
forward.
O
When
the
population
just
gets
older
and
older
and
older
I
mean
I'm
getting
older
and
older.
I
need
somebody
behind
me,
the
younger
generation,
to
come
up
and
fill
that
gap
anyway.
It
was
an
interesting
set
of
facts.
I
pulled
from
the
demographics
and
I
thought
you
might
want
to
know
how
1710
is
doing
and
point
being.
We
need
a
mix
of
housing,
affordable
and
market
rate
low.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
council,
member
adam.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up.
Let
me
just
put
my
two
cents
worth
in
the
question
before
us
tonight.
I
appreciate
all
the
talk
about
our
affordable
housing,
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
that
now
is
set
at
zero.
Basically-
and
I
agree
with
many
of
our
many
of
our
public
speakers-
and
I
agree
with
our
council
member
bill
de
la
pena-
that
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
visit
and
include,
as
I
think
it
was.
C
C
C
The
land
use
element
of
our
general
plan.
We
are
tasked
with
coming
up
with
locations
whereby
we
can
satisfy
the
the
arena
numbers
that
we've
been
asked
to
come
up
with.
That
is
the
crux
of
what
we
are
voting
on
tonight.
Have
we
accomplished
that
goal
and
we've
been
told
by
staff
that
there
have
been
enough
locations
put
aside
plus
a
buffer
for
no
net,
no
net
zero
loss
to
be
able
to
accomplish
that
goal?
C
The
goal
of
inclusionary
housing
and
we've
had
a
spirited
discussion
on
it
tonight
and
I'm
sure
we
will
have
another
spirited
discussion
coming
up.
That
is.
That
is
an
ordinance
that's
already
in
place
that
we
need
to
put
a
little
bit
of
meat
on
those
bones,
but
that's
a
discussion
really
for
another
night.
C
C
O
O
That's
been
proposed
tonight
and
I
commend
staff.
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
work.
I
I
it
was.
It
was
a
good
read,
I
must
say
for
me
it
did
a
lot
more
than
talk
about
housing.
I
talked
about
the
demographics
of
the
city,
which
was
very
interesting,
so
I
will
move
that
we
adopt
the
housing
element
as
presented
to
us
tonight.
Al.
I
C
And
I
just
have
one
other
quick
comment
before
I
get
to
my
colleague,
claudia
bill
de
la
pena.
Thank
you
for
reminding
me,
mr
adam.
One
of
the
comments
by
a
couple
of
our
speakers
was
to
really
highlight
this
annual
review
of
where
we're
at
so
that
people
know
where
we
are
and
how
we're
doing-
and
you
know
if
we
need
to
look
at
other
course
corrections.
C
L
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
just
bring
up
the
need
to
update
our
zoning
to
provide
for
housing
for
persons
with
disabilities
or
special
needs.
I
would
like
to
see
that
brought
back
if
possible.
I
know
a
lot
to
do,
but
that
is
something
that
we
absolutely
need
to
look
at,
and
I
would
very
much
appreciate
that
and
that's
just
a
just
a
message,
a
note
to
staff
and
my
colleagues
that
that
is
very
important.
B
D
C
O
C
L
C
N
N
N
This
same
government
section
requires
that
a
super
majority
vote
for
the
for
the
moratorium,
and
this
means
in
this
case
that
four
out
of
the
five
members
of
city
council
adopt
vote
to
adopt
or
the
motion
does
not
pass.
If
it's
adopted,
then
the
initial
ordinance
will
be
in
effect
for
45
days
and
then
after
that,
40
days
at
a
public
hearing,
city
council
could
can
consider
extending
the
moratorium
for
another
10
half
months
and
then
once
again
for
another
year
after
that,
for
a
total
of
two
years.
N
N
In
fact,
our
development
economic
development
division
has
received
11
inquiries
over
the
past
two
years
and
the
planning
division
has
received
over
a
dozen
just
this
past
year,
so
it
currently
in
the
city.
There
are
15
traditional
cell
stories
that
by
traditional
I
mean
they
have
actual
units
they're,
not
a
big
box
where
they
have
storage
for
large
large
profile
vehicles.
N
And
it's
consisting
of
nearly
1.1
million
square
feet
of
building
area.
So
all
these
developments,
all
the
developments.
Developments
that
exist
have
been
considered
and
approved,
utilizing
general
development
standards
as
permitted
in
the
c2
zone,
the
m1
zone
and
the
m2
zoning
categories,
either
through
a
special
use,
permanent
development
and
again
depending
on
the
location.
That's
what
determines
if
it's
a
development
permit
or
a
special
use
permit.
If
it's
in
the
c2
zone,
it's
a
special
use
permit
by
cobra
requirement.
N
If
it's
within
400
feet
of
residential
zone,
then
a
special
use
permit
is
required
in
the
m1
or
m2
zone.
But
if
it's
outside
of
400
feet
of
residential,
then
the
adjusted
development
permit
is
required
and
the
city
has
less
discretion
to
approve
or
deny
the
the
nine
of
the
inquiries
for
from
our
economic
development
division
were
located
in
the
ranch
canaria.
Basically,
the
area
of
french
kingdom
boulevard,
amgen
location,
the
new
biotech
areas
that
are
popping
up
in
those
those
industrial
buildings.
N
N
N
That
would
be
a
request
to
extend
the
moratorium
for
additional
10
months.
That
would
provide
us
enough
time,
city
staff
to
initiate
a
municipal
code
amendment
and
consider
establishing
explicit
standards
for
for
these
facilities,
including
new
processes,
if
necessary,
and
then
after
that,
one
year
period,
staff
could
bring
back
another
extension.
If
we
don't
have
standards
in
place
for
up
to
another
one
year.
N
N
Now
the
findings
for
moratorium
are
suggested
for
city
council
to
adopt
if
there's
exists,
a
current
and
immediate
threat
to
public
health
safety.
Welfare
requirement
interim
emergency
ordinance
that
this
ordinance
is
necessary
for
the
immediate
preservation
of
public
peace,
health
safety
and
welfare,
and
permitting
of
additional
self-storage
facilities
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
without
evaluation
of
near
term
and
the
long-term
impacts
of
utilizing
valuable
commercial
industrial
land
without
establishing
specific
development
standards.
N
C
I
Mayor
question
I
have
is
that
there
you
said:
there's
two
that
are
currently
in
process:
how
far
along?
Are
they
because
it?
I
would
think
it
would
be
unfair
to
have
developers
or
whoever
is
going
to
be
the
ownership
of
this
put
funds
into
developing
it.
To
only
have
our
city
staff
say,
nope,
we're
going
to
put
a
moratorium
on
this.
How
far
along
are
they
and
anything
that
could
be
done
for
that?
That
may
be
in
the
pipeline.
N
That's
a
good
question:
they're,
the
two
in
their
pipeline,
one
is
at
one
120,
vm
rita.
The
second
one
is
at
5
30
hampshire,
road.
The
hampshire
road
project
just
concluded
the
pre-application
process.
We
haven't
heard
back
from
them
as
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
move
forward
through
the
formal
review
process.
N
That
was
a
special
use
permit.
We
did
give
them
comments
based
on
their
design.
That's
that
location
is
the
former
cancer
site
on
the
american
cancer
society,
building
on
hampshire,
road
and
then
right
across
from
actually
the
the
kmart
location,
and
then
the
biamrita
is
just
adjacent
to
the
west
of
oaks.
Christian
and
there's
an
existing
old
anthem,
blue
cross
building
there
they
have
not
gotten
to
the
pre-application
stage.
At
this
point
we
haven't
had
the
meeting
so
they're,
just
at
the
very
beginning.
N
E
And
if
I
can
just
add
one
additional
point
to
that,
these
are
informal
applications.
Nothing
formal
has
been
submitted
yet
so
they're
extremely
early
in
the
process,
early
enough,
where
they're
at
a
point
where
we
can
give
them
feedback.
So
if
council
were
to
take
an
action
tonight
to
approve
a
moratorium
to
allow
staff
time
for
further
study,
we
can
actually
provide
that
feedback
to
them
before
they
go
further
down
the
path.
I
E
Well,
you
brought
the
item
forward
just
based
on
the
circumstances
we
just
discussed
in
the
sense
that
this
is
a
use
that
has
been
in
our
code
for
quite
some
time.
However,
we
never
actually
develop
you
specific
development
standards,
we're
using
the
tools
that
we
have
that
are
best
available
to
regulate
the
use.
E
But
what
prompted
us
to
bring
this
item
before
you
this
evening
is
we're
receiving
an
influx
of
inquiry
and
activity
for
this
type
of
use
in
prominent
locations
throughout
town.
As
you
all
are
aware,
we're
going
through
a
general
plan
update
process
right
now,
we're
re-evaluating
uses
throughout
the
city
and
trying
to
identify
appropriate
locations
for
housing
throughout
the
site
as
well
as
uses
that
would
support
our
burgeoning
biotech
sector.
So
that
was
a
factor
as
well
and
as
mr
kearns
mentioned
in
the
staff
report.
B
B
N
If
I
could
call
them
the
site
over
off
via
zone
m1,
which
is
industrial
park,
they
have
a
broad
list
of
uses
they're
more
manufacturing
related.
But
there
are
some
it
would
allow
for
biotech
lifestyle,
life
sciences,
professional
offices,
vehicle
cells
by
like
manufacturing
of
various
types.
So
if
they
provide
a
lot
of
employment,
centers
and
then
the
site
over
on
hampshire
road,
it's
also
m1
and
would
have
similar
uses,
but
they
are
located
within
400
feet
of
residential.
N
R
And
thank
you
councilman
councilmember
jones,
I'll,
just
add
one
other
piece
of
color
for
you
and
you're
talking
about
the
deliberation
of
bringing
this
item
before
the
council.
Moratoriums
are
not
something
that
we
approach
lightly.
They're
a
blunt
force
object.
The
council
remember
the
last
time
we
did.
This
was
the
moratorium
on
health
uses
and
that
at
the
time,
ended
up
preventing
an
industrial
hemp
drying
facility
from
siding
out
in
the
right
nature,
canejo
area.
R
R
So
whenever
you
see
sort
of
a
really
dramatic
shift
in
change
occurring
like
this,
we
think
it's
an
important
question
to
bring
to
the
council
to
weigh
into
especially
given
where
we're
at,
in
the
general
plan
process
and
relatively
finite
land
opportunities
for
different
types
of
development,
whether
that
be
housing,
commercial,
etc,
and
the
fact
that,
once
you
put
in
a
use
like
self
storage,
there
are
certain
uses
that
are
easily
convertible
to
something
else.
Some
storage
is
is
not
as
easy
to
convert
downstream
into
a
different
type
of
use.
N
The
filing
fees
for
the
pre-application
they've
each
paid,
seven
thousand
dollars
for
the
pre-op
it's
a
flat
fee.
We
haven't
got
to
the
pre-application
meeting
for
the
one
la
tender
or
vmritta,
so
we
haven't
spent
a
lot
of
staff
time
on
that
one
at
this
point,
but
the
other
one
has
run
its
course
through
the
pre-application
process.
R
O
Thanks
mayor
well,
I
think
we
have
to
remember
here
that
a
moratorium
doesn't
necessarily
mean
no.
A
moratorium
means
we
just
step
back
and
evaluate
a
situation
as
we've
done
with
other
a
couple
other
moratoriums,
and
as
it's
been
mentioned,
we
already
have
1.1
million
square
feet
of
storage
capability
in
the
city,
and
I
think
we
might
be
getting
close
to
a
saturation
point
and
we're
not
the
only
city.
O
Looking
at
this
drew
menchie
camarillo's
adopted
a
moratorium
and
there's
moratoriums
in
cities
all
across
the
country,
because
people
are
looking
at
this
and
thinking
themselves.
Well,
wait
a
minute,
you
know:
do
we
want
to
legislate
where
these
things
should
go
should
maybe
should
they
go
in
an
industrial
area
versus
or
do
we
mine
them
in
a
denser
area
near
our
downtowns?
You
know
where
we're
looking
more
for
pedestrian
traffic,
we're
looking
for
apartment
stores,
restaurants,
you
know
what
about
the
aesthetics.
O
They
take
up
a
lot
of
land,
they
don't
offer
a
lot
of
jobs
and
the
two
that
are
pending
that
has
been
mentioned.
That's
another
300
000
square
feet
on
top
of
the
1.1
million
that
we
already
have.
I
don't
know
if
you've
noticed
the
project
going
up
on
willow
on
that
promontory.
Overlooking
the
city,
that's
a
storage
facility.
Is
it
not
steve
yeah,
yeah
and.
O
O
C
D
B
Q
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
members
of
the
city
council.
My
name
is
tom
cohen,
a
resident
here
at
thousand
oaks,
I'm
here
tonight
representing
capital,
360
and
prudential
first.
We
understand
the
city's
desire
to
re-look
at
its
zoning
ordinance
regarding
self-storage
in
the
city,
land
availability
for
uses
that
generate
the
need
for
jobs
and
housing,
where
it's
best
located
what
it
looks
like
how
many
is
too
many
in
a
process
going
forward.
Q
Our
concern
is
that
we
entered
into
the
planning
process
back
in
november
after
engaging
with
city
staff
in
september,
about
the
use
at
this
location
that
we're
interested
in
building
this
new
facility
and
staff
acknowledged.
The
use
was
allowed
somewhat
begrudgingly,
but
thanks,
they
indicated
it
was
allowed
and
it's
identified
in
the
code
as
a
buy
right
use.
If
we
deliver
a
project
that
meets
all
the
city
standards,
which
we
took
great
care
to
make
sure
we
did
height,
setbacks,
landscape
coverage,
parking
avoidance
of
protected
trees,
all
in
conformance
with
the
code.
Q
My
clients
in
reliance
on
the
code
and
the
feedback
from
staff
invested
significant
capital
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
design
and
engineering
professionals.
An
arborist
in
various
feasibility
studies
and
then
we
submitted
an
application.
You
heard
what
that
fee
was.
I
appreciate
the
comment
from
mr
jones.
Q
We
would
have
filed
a
formal
application
if
we
were
allowed
to,
but
city
first
requires
you
to
go
with
a
pre-app,
but
the
level
of
detail
that
goes
into
a
pre-application
application
is
pretty
darn
close
to
what
goes
into
a
formal
submittal.
We
take
the
comments
that
we
get
at
a
pre-app
review
meeting
and
we
tweaked
our
plans
to
conform.
Q
Thus,
it's
a
fairness
issue
to
wrap
this
applicant
into
the
moratorium.
While
you
evaluate
the
future
of
self-storage
in
the
community,
we
only
learned
of
this
moratorium
two
weeks
ago,
after
numerous
inquiries
as
to
when
our
pre-application
review
meeting
with
staff
was
going
to
take
place
and
we're
well
aware
that
there
has
been
anecdotal
inquiries
driving
concern
of
an
overpopulation
of
facilities,
and
there
is
worry
that
the
camarilla
moratorium
will
drive
these
facilities
to
our
city
and
your
sensitive
sensitivity
to
these
issues
is
warranted.
Q
Having
said
that,
you,
as
our
city's
policymakers,
have
the
ability
to
go
the
moratorium
direction,
while
also
protecting
those
who
are
already
in
the
pipeline
and
exempt
and
exempt
this
applicant
from
the
effects
of
this
moratorium.
We
think
it
makes
sense
from
a
policy
and
practical
perspective
for
several
reasons.
First,
the
project
is
proposed
in
a
location
that
has
been
vacant
for
a
few
years.
Now
it's
been
marketed
by
multiple
leading
commercial
brokerage
houses
in
the
area.
Q
Q
C
A
A
A
This
property
has
been
vacant
for
over
two
and
a
half
years.
We
have
major
issues
with
homeless
people
living
in
there.
We
had
to
hire
a
security
guard
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week,
and
some
council
members
indicated
that
there
is
1.1
million
square
feet
of
self-storage
in
the
area,
but
keep
in
mind
that
1.1
million
square
feet
is
95
percent
occupied
highest
occupancy
of
any
other
cell
storage
area
in
l.a,
county
or
ventura
county,
and
also
keep
in
mind
the
average
construction
of
those
1.1
million
square
feet
is
25
years
old.
A
None
of
those
storage
facilities,
for
example,
are
air
conditioning,
which
is
something
very
important
for
people
to
store
furniture
is
another
component
in
it.
We've
been
talking
about
affordable
housing.
The
first
thing
affordable,
housing
need
is
self-storage.
They
need
to
put
their
extra
furniture
and
extra
stuff
into
the
storage
and
right
now
at
95
occupancy.
A
A
We
think
the
city
is
being
unfair
and
unreasonable
and
based
on
incorrect
data
implementing
this
motatorium.
This
is
incorrect.
First,
they
declined
the
use,
which
was
to
bring
luxury
housing
by
the
best
in
the
class
developer
grey
star
on
our
parking
lot
site,
which
was
denied
and
now
they're
denying
another
application
which
is
totally
different.
A
This
is
a
major
issue
for
us
that
we,
if
the
city
state
discourse,
we
have
to
consider
our
alternative
and
make
no
mistakes.
These
alternatives
would
be
harsh
because
we
cannot
incur
having
20.5
acres
of
land
in
there
and
city,
basically
and
unilaterally
deciding
on
what
we
can
do,
even
within
the
proper
zoning
they're,
rejecting
it
and
finding
the
loopholes
for
us
to
stop
and
not
perceive
our
business.
D
C
A
Thank
you
good
evening.
Everybody
I
am,
my
name
is
mark
leonard
with
lean
associates.
I
was
hired
by
union
properties
along
with
my
partner
jared
smits
about
close
to
two
years
ago
now
I've
been
the
30-year
veteran
in
the
in
the
canelo
valley,
commercial,
real
estate
area
and
specializing
in
office,
leasing
and
sales.
A
A
If
this
was
not
to
happen,
this
ordinance
was
moratorium
is
approved
and
we're
not
say
grandfathered
and
approved
for
our
permit.
Well,
then,
that
puts
us
back
to
square
one
to
lease
a
hundred
thousand
square
foot
office
building,
which
is
a
grave
challenge
right
now,
there's
probably
15
buildings
that
could
occupy
a
single
hundred
thousand
foot
tenant
throughout
the
canelo
valley,
and
it's
just
it's.
It's
been
a
struggle
and
we
just
hope
that
the
council
looks
at
the
fact
that
that
our
permit
was
put
in
and
considers
us
excluded
from
the
moratorium.
H
H
R
R
H
H
H
R
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members.
My
name
is
scott
cooper
with
capital
360,
the
applicant
of
120
south
via
merit
away,
which
proposes
much
needed
self
storage
to
replace
what
has
long
been
a
vacant
functionally
obsolete
building
within
thousand
oaks.
The
existing
occupancy
for
all
self
storage
is
at
94
percent,
which
shows
there
are
substantial
demand
for
this
public
serving
of
many
within
thousand
oaks.
The
average
year
built
for
all
self-storage
is
1979.
R
within
thousand
oaks.
The
storage
per
capita
is
well
below
the
national
average
and
also
below
the
average.
For
california,
the
staff
report
mentions
over
one
million
square
feet,
but
that
is
gross
square
footage,
cushman
and
wakefield.
A
third-party
export
and
self-storage
identifies
that
amount
as
623
000
square
feet
of
usable.
R
The
staff
report
also
mentions
that
thousand
oaks
has
the
second
highest
number
of
facilities
with
ventura
county.
The
thousand
oaks
also
happens
to
have
the
second
largest
population
of
all
cities
within
durham
county.
Clearly,
a
direct
correlation
self
storage
is
often
overlooked
in
many
for
residents,
because
our
minds
usually
think
of
a
park
or
a
public
swimming
pool,
but
storage
affords
people
more
space
than
they
otherwise
have
at
their
residence.
R
As
we
heard
earlier
tonight,
with
the
state
of
california
requiring
municipalities
to
meet
their
housing
element,
more
dense
housing
will
need
to
be
approved
and
built.
Multi-Family
developers
are
now
building
smaller
units
and
tenants,
and
future
residents
of
thousand
oaks
will
need
a
place
for
additional
storage.
R
Additionally,
stealth
storage
is
now
used
more
and
more
by
commercial
users,
gardeners,
storing
equipment,
plumbers,
storing
supplies,
medical
sales,
reps,
storing
samples,
cpa,
storing
files
as
much
as
40
percent
of
our
end.
Users
require
self
storage
for
commercial
purposes.
In
some
ways,
self
storage
can
be
viewed
as
an
indirect
ancillary
provider
for
jobs
within
a
community.
R
R
I
believe
a
package
has
been
provided
and
the
last
page
would
potentially
show
a
rendering
of
what
the
facility
could
look
like.
The
proposed
new
facility
for
thousand
oaks
be
climate
controlled
when
almost
all
the
facilities
in
the
city
are
non-climate
controlled.
The
proposed
new
facility
provide
wine
storage.
The
proposed
new
facility
will
be
technologically
advanced,
provide
top-of-the-line
security
and
be
energy
efficient.
R
The
proposed
new
facility
be
architecturally,
unique
by
incorporating
varying
materials
that
evoke
the
natural
environment,
with
wood
and
green
screens
to
provide
a
development
the
community
can
be
proud
of.
Lastly,
capital
360
believes
it's
important
to
be
a
good
member
of
the
community
on
another
one
of
our
developments.
We
designed
an
area
for
public
car
charging
stations.
This
site
will
be
an
ideal
candidate
for
providing
a
similar
community
benefit.
R
Given
its
location,
access
to
the
101
freeway,
we
would
look
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
work
with
staff
to
see
how
we
can
provide
a
community
benefit
that
satisfies
the
residents
of
thousand
oaks.
I
stand
before
you
today
respectfully
request
that
you
exempt
this
project
from
the
proposed
moratorium.
Thank
you.
C
S
Our
development
is
a
partnership
with
one
of
the
largest
life
companies
in
the
world:
prudential
real
estate,
a
long
history
with
the
city
of
west
lake
village
and
they're,
also,
currently,
the
the
investor
behind
the
senior
living
facility,
that's
being
built.
Next
to
oak
christian,
we
take
great
great
pride
in
building
institutional
quality,
intelligent
community
design,
salt
storage
facilities.
S
When
we
go
look
at
a
site,
the
first
order
of
business
is
to
make
sure
there
are
no
issues
with
the
community
with
the
neighbor
we
deep
dive
into
the
zoning
codes
and
into
the
community
plan.
We
started
doing
this
about
nine
months
ago.
So
it's
important
to
understand
that,
within
that
nine
months
we
haven't
just
spent
a
seven
thousand
dollar
fee.
S
S
S
So
if
somebody
just
said
something,
you
know
even
six
three
four
five
months
ago
would
have
saved
us
a
significant
amount
of
money
or
we
we
would
have
figured
it
out,
but
for
us
to
to
ask
ziya
who
has
13
acres.
Besides,
what
we're
on
to
to
step
aside
and
wait
with
us
for
potentially
six
months
to
two
years
is
not
realistic,
and
so
you
know
we
would
hope
you
guys
do
the
right
thing,
which
is
allow
us
to
continue
on
outside
the
moratorium,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
H
H
We
have
an
affluent
community
people
are
expecting
when
they
put
their
goods
in
storage,
to
have
a
safe
and
proper
environment
that
will
maintain
the
quality
of
what
they
have.
And
it's
not
here.
So
I
think
it's
it's
just
not
a
correct
assumption
to
say
that,
just
because
we
have
a
15
facilities
here
that
we're
saturated.
H
I
understand
that
you've
received
a
lot
of
inquiries,
but
inquiries
don't
necessarily
turn
into
projects.
So
I
encourage
you
to
accept
this
project
and
perhaps
the
other
one
as
well,
and
if
you
want
to
impose
a
moratorium,
it
puts
everyone
else
on
notice
that
they
have
this
issue
to
deal
with
in
the
future.
H
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
mark
rubstead
and
I'm
an
investor
looking
to
invest
in
the
thousand
oaks
area,
primarily
due
to
the
very
high
vacancy
rates
that
are
being
experienced
in
office
buildings,
which
is
why
I've
been
on
this
call.
I'm
concerned
with
the
self-storage
moratorium
I
see
proposed
as
any
buy
right
use
within
a
city
should
never
be
subject
to
any
moratorium.
Q
Additionally,
I'm
very
interested
to
find
out
what
exactly
is
the
immediate
threat
to
public
health,
safety
and
welfare,
as
stated
in
the
staff
report,
to
the
contrary,
a
vacant
property
which
is
primarily
what
would
be
to
redevelop
for
this
purpose
is,
in
fact,
an
extreme
threat
to
public
safety
and
redeveloping
such
a
property
to
a
buy
right
use
will
help
to
protect
the
community's
safety,
welfare
and
health.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
E
E
E
E
Self
storage
uses
now
currently,
there
has
not
been
a
formal
application
filed
on
any
of
those
sites.
Staff
has
been
utterly
clear
with
each
individual
inquiring
about
self-storage
uses.
Where
we
stand
on
these
uses,
it's
been
to
discourage
it
for
the
very
reasons
we're
moving
forward
with
the
question
the
council
to
explore
this
moratorium.
E
E
It
is
entirely
appropriate
in
the
polymer
in
the
preliminary
phase
to
provide
comments
and
feedback,
and
let
people
know
about
the
self
storage
moratorium.
That
is
part
of
the
reason.
A
pre-application
is
required
before
you
submit
a
formal
application
for
the
specific
reason
to
provide
feedback
such
as
this.
E
N
I
think
you
covered
very
well.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
the
moratorium
is
not
an
outright
prohibition
of
self-storage
the
future.
It's
just
a
sort
of
a
pause.
Take
a
step
back,
look
at
the
development
standards
that
would
be
appropriate
and
applicable
to
these
types
of
uses,
including
building
setback,
size,
minimum
or
maximum
lot
sizes.
Those
kind
of
things
just
to
see
just
to
preserve
the
city
going
forward.
I
was
talking
about
appropriate
uses
of
our
land
up
our
valuable
commercial
and
industrial
land
uses.
N
R
This
is
one
of
those
difficult
situations
where
a
question
comes
to
the
city
council,
in
your
role
as
the
land
use
authority
for
the
entire
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
55
square
miles,
and
the
fact
that
you
are
in
the
midst
of
a
general
plan
process
with
these
changes
coming
and
the
speed
and
pace
and,
frankly,
the
magnitude
of
size.
In
some
of
these
projects,
it
was
an
important
question.
R
We
thought
to
bring
to
the
city
council,
because
once
they
do
move
forward
based
on
the
zoning
code
of
the
past,
that
we're
working
to
update
as
we
move
forward,
there's
no
changing.
So
that's
why
the
questions
in
front
of
you
recognize
it's
a
difficult
one.
We
never
like
to
pit
our
business
community
against
the
issue
of
land
use
authority,
so
recognize
and
appreciate
the
challenge
there
and
simply
felt
it
was
important
to
bring
the
question
to
the
city
council
visit.
Q
Mr
kearns,
as
we
wrote,
is
very
clear
about
the
public's
safety
and
welfare,
and
the
welfare
better
aspect
of
it
frankly
is.
Is
that
permitting
additional
soft
storage
facilities
and
thousand
notes
without
evaluating
the
near-term
and
long-term
impacts
of
utilizing
viable
commercial
and
industrial
land,
and
without
establishing
specific
development
standards,
findings
and
processes
would
be
detrimental
to
the
city
and
would
be
inconsistent
with
the
goals
and
policies
of
the
general
plan.
Q
In
the
city
council,
we
have
the
economic
development
strategic
plan,
we
have
the
general
plan
policies
and
updates
that
we're
doing
this
is
why
we
bring
this.
It
is
a
urgency
ordinance.
We
do
have
to
go
through
a
whole
process
to
evaluate
this,
bring
it
back
to
council
to
have
it
studied
even
further.
Have
another
public
hearing
on
this
matter
with
all
this,
there
are
steps
that
we
take.
H
C
N
I
can
start
backwards
with
it.
I
think
that'd
be
frame
it
up
nice,
the
overall
time
period
for
moratorium
with
extensions
is
two
years
we
can
exceed
that
period.
Initially,
it's
45
days
for
us
to
get
it
back
to
city
council
to
give
us
our
initial
feedback
on
our
research
and
how
it's
progressed
and,
if
necessary,
request
an
extension
for
up
to
ten
and
a
half
more
months.
I
N
Well,
I
wouldn't
say
anything
at
this
point:
we
have
to
go
through
the
evaluation
process
and
take
a
look
at
what's
appropriate
for
what
specific
geographic
area,
our
properties
that
we're
looking
at,
create
standards
for
there's
a
right
now,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
presentation,
there's
a
special
use
comment
process
required
just
generally
in
the
c2
zone.
C2
zone
is
basically
everything
used
to
be
the
boulevard,
but
it's
like
anything
you
see
along
the
freeway
corridor.
N
That
requires
a
special
easter
end
for
obvious
reasons:
the
m1m2
zone,
it's
only
if
they're
within
400
feet
of
residential,
but
anything
outside
that
400
feet
is
basically,
as
mr
cohen
stated,
it's
a
matter
of
right
as
long
as
they
check
most
of
all
the
boxes.
So
that's
where
the
process
we
want
to
look
and
see
if
there's
a
better
way
of
evaluating
these
and
come
up
with
specific
findings
and
specific
criteria
for
these
types
of
uses.
Q
A
couple
of
points,
one
is
that
there
are
other
uses
that
are
allowed
in
that
one
zone.
This
this
urgency
or
interim
ordinance
is
very
specific
to
self-storage
facilities,
only
it's
not
addressing
any
other
uses
that
are
permitted
in
the
m1
zone
and
secondly,
as
mr
kearns
kind
of
really
mentioned
here,
you
know
you
have
to
look
at
the
formal
application
and
see
what
is
presented
before
you
say.
Oh
it's
it's!
Q
You
know
we
have
some
discretion
based
on
what
they
want
to
do,
and
every
one
of
these
projects
based
on
size
or
height
or
different
factors,
may
impact
the
analysis,
that's
done
and
then
notice.
It
might
have
to
be
done.
So
those
those
are
necessary
when
you
get
the
formal
application
and
review
that.
But
again
it's
important
to
note
that
this
is
in
the
m1
zone.
There
are
many
uses
permitted
in
that
one
zone.
This
urgency
ordinance
is
very
specific
for
self-storage
facilities.
Only.
I
I
follow
thank
you,
mr
kearns
last
question.
I
have
for
you
and
I
don't
know
if
you're
the
one
to
answer
this-
is
I'm
hearing
a
disconnect
on
one
hand
this
I'm
going
to
call
them
the
developer.
Who
wants
to
do
this
spent
200
000
in
plans
with
I'm
hearing
from
you
saying?
No,
you
we're
not
real
excited
about
this
idea
of
public
storage,
but
they
move
forward
anyways
with
200
000
worth
of
development.
I
Can
you
share
your
perspective
on
this?
Were
they
adequately
told
that
this
probably
will
be
turned
down
or
runs
a
good
chance
of
being
turned
down,
or
we
may
have
a
moratorium?
What
was
the
communication
like
and
in
fact
the
applicant
if
they
would
share
their
thoughts
and
perspective?
That
would
do
well
too.
Mr
kearns.
N
N
They
give
you
enough
information
to
evaluate
proposed
concept
and
give
you
comments
based
on
that
land
use
and
some
of
the
architectural
designs.
But
it
sounds
like
the
applicant
went
a
little
bit
further
with
their
engineering
plans,
which
we
would
not
encourage
at
any
stage
of
an
application
without
having
some
sort
of
decision
made
and.
N
I
R
I'll
just
jump
in
one
additional
point
just
to
make
sure
here
that,
because
the
important
nuance
here
is
that
it
is
based
on
the
zoning
code,
it's
essentially
allowed
by
right.
So
there
is
that's
the
the
sort
of
break
breakdown
here
and
the
fact
that
it
doesn't
come.
It
wouldn't
come
unless
on
appeal
to
the
city
council.
R
So
that's
the
you
know
the
piece
so
we
can
discourage,
and
that
happens
quite
frequently
you
get
something
that
may
be
allowed
by
a
zoning
by
zoning
and
it's
not
ideal
because,
let's
just
say
it's
a
drive-through,
but
it's
going
to
cause
significant
traffic
issues
right,
there's
conversations
that
occur.
That
say,
you
know.
Yes,
it's
allowed.
These
are
the
issues
here,
you're
going
to
have
a
challenge
here.
So
there's
a
lot
of
that
nuance
that
that
occurs
in
the
process,
and
so
I
think
that's
the
important
distinction
here.
R
The
difference
between
the
via
morita
one
and
the
hamster
one
is:
it:
is
the
proximity
to
residential,
so
it
has
one
additional
layer
on
it.
It's
an
s
p
because
it's
in
proximity
to
residential.
So
it's
going
to
make
sure
you
have
that
little
piece
of
it
essentially
absent
this
consideration
by
council.
M
And
then
I
need
to
I
need
to
kind
of
correct
the
record
after
mr
cohen
speaks
with
a
lot
of
discussion
on
what
is
by
right.
I
need
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
what
byron
is,
because
everyone
is
using
that
word
in
a
very
different
manner,
and
there
are
legal
connotations
to
it:
it's
a
development
imperment.
It
is
a
discretionary
entitlement
and
with
no
formal
application
that
has
been
presented,
there
is
no
guarantee
of
it
being
by
right
since
there's
no
formal
application,
that's
been
pending.
D
C
C
C
I
Q
I'm
you
can
hear
me
thank
you.
We
can
hear
you.
I
I'd
actually
like
brian
snyderson,
to
speak
to
these
points,
but
there's
one
thing
that-
and
I
understand
where
the
city
attorney's
coming
from
as
to
what
buy
right
means
it's
not
to
confuse
anybody,
but
as
long
as
we
meet
all
the
development
standards,
the
use
is
allowed
and,
of
course
that's
not
a
final
action.
Q
I
also
want
to
clarify
that
when,
when
we
first
talked
to
the
city,
yes,
there
was-
and
this
goes
back
to
june
or
july
when
the
inquiry
came
to
me.
The
comment
was
you
know,
we
don't
really
like
it,
but
there's
nothing.
We
can
really
do
to
stop
it,
and
I
heard
that
reaction
on
several
other
times
is
I
get.
Q
I
get
calls
from
people
that
want
to
do
all
kinds
of
different
things
in
the
city,
and
I
do
my
best
to
discourage
where
I
don't
think
it's
doable
and
the
couple
of
places
that
people
were
looking
to
do
it,
such
as
rancho
caneo,
and
I
know
what
the
city's
desires
and
goals
are
out
there,
that
discourage
people
from
doing
anything
out
there
or
anywhere
near
residential.
For
that
matter,
and
this
property
is,
is
you
know
over
2000.
S
Hi.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
It's
it's
extremely
important
to
note
here
that
again,
when
we
went
to
tom,
we
went
to
the
we
really
did
look
around.
We
used
very
large
because
with
prudential
they
they
use
big
law
firms
as
well,
and
they
said,
look
we.
These
are
the
good.
These
are
the
guys
that
can
get
it
done
locally.
Talking
with
tom
cohen,
so
tom
went
to.
S
We
had
first
checked
with
the
planner
to
make
sure
that
this
was
an
allowed
use.
We
had
our
attorneys
check
the
code.
Then
we
pulled
back
the
onion
even
more
to
do
more
due
diligence
and
we
had
tom
go
to
the
city.
So
all
of
the
you
know
we
don't
do
anything
simply
because
we
are
building
a
large
institutional
facility
with
a
very
large
institutional
partner,
and
we've
done
it
all,
over
los
angeles,
we're
probably
the
largest
developer
of
self
storage
and
we're
very
particular
on
how
we
do
these
things.
S
That's
why
the
code
is
published
to
avoid
these
arbitrary
decision-making
issues
and
unintentionally,
placing
us
in
this
type
of
a
very
challenged
situation,
and
I
understand
the
city
attorney,
but
when
we
say
by
right
again,
if
this
is
a
challenge
project,
where
you
know
what
one
of
the
things
we
looked
at
with
tom,
that
tom
explored
with
the
city
is
that
you
can't
see
us
so
we're
pretty
invisible,
we're
not
by
any
we're
not
by
any
residential
at
all.
This
has
been
a
building.
S
I
C
O
O
O
S
O
N
N
I
think
it's
a
bigger
global
issue
for
us
from
a
citywide
perspective,
looking
at
how
we're
going
to
pursue
our
land
use
allowances
in
our
use
matrix
in
the
code
because
of
the
amount
of
self-storage
we
see
popping
up,
the
number
of
facilities
are
15..
I
understand
there's
a
net
versus
gross
argument
here,
whether
or
not
it's
appropriate
and
in
line
with
the
policies
that
are
going
to
be
implemented
with
our
general
plan
as
that
moves
forward.
So
we
want
to
just
pump
the
brakes.
N
E
E
C
L
Okay
and
then
there
will
be
a
deliberation
I
would
assume.
I
know
that
mention
was
made
this
evening
about
housing
and
I
think
it
was
luxury
housing
and
the
applicants,
probably
by
listening
to
our
council
meeting
this
evening
for
several
hours,
know
where
the
need
lies
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
so
I
just
thought
that
they
that
that's
another
option
that
can
be
pursued
while
we
are
looking
at
this
deliberating
the
moratorium.
That's
that's
really
all
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
Okay,.
R
And
council
member
bill
de
la
pena
I'll
just
speak
to
that
really
quickly.
As
a
reminder,
we
have
not
received
any
application
on
this
property,
but
I
think
the
reference
to
housing
was
in
the
context
of
advocacy
that
occurred
during
the
land
use
map
process
desiring
to
have
a
residential
or
mixed
use,
designation
laid
on
that
property.
R
If
you'll
recall,
some
of
the
public
feedback
during
that
portion
of
time
was
less
inclined
for
housing
in
that
particular
in
that
particular
area,
and
so
the
council
does
decided
to
keep
that
in
an
industrial
jobs-focused
category.
That
said,
there
is
nothing
precluding
the
council
downstream
post
land
use
map
to
contemplate
a
different
use
on
the
site,
whether
that
be
residential
or
otherwise
for
any
other
type
of
project,
just
like
you've
traditionally
handled.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
clear.
C
Okay,
no
other
hands
up.
I
do
have
one
quick
question.
I
think
either
sir
here
or
miss
noonan
can
help
me
out
on
it.
There's
there's
the
issue
of
our
our
responsibility
as
the
land
use
authority
within
the
city,
and
then
this
by
right,
someone
comes
in
it's
a
zone
for
this.
They
think
they
have
a
by-right.
Can
you
explain
to
me
how
those
two
interact?
M
M
There
are
times
where
you
need
to
take
an
action
to
press
the
pause
button
to
allow
you
the
opportunity
to
evaluate
those
land
use
policies
for
a
particular
site
or
particular
use.
That's
what
the
moratorium
statute
legislation
was
created.
Specifically
for
my
concern
with
using
the
word
by
right
is
it.
It
almost
implies
that
there's
no
discretion.
There
is
discretion
here,
whether
it's
a
granted.
It's
not
an
sup
where
there
is
a
lot
more
discretion,
but
even
under
a
development
permit,
they
have
to
meet.
They
have
to
meet
various
development
standards.
M
M
If
it
was
a
hundred
percent
by
right,
we
wouldn't
be
it
wouldn't
be
subject
to
an
administrative
hearing.
It
wouldn't
be
subject
to
appeal
to
planning
commission.
It
wouldn't
be
subject
to
appeal
to
the
city
council.
The
fact
that
it
still
has
to
be
considered
and
approved
indicates
it
is
not
a
what
I
would
call
a
ministerial
type
of
an
act.
There
is
still
some
minimal
discretion
associated
with
this,
but
the
most
important
component
with
this
is
again.
I
Thank
you
mayor.
I
am
very
torn
with
this
issue.
One
is
yes,
there's
something
called
literal
law
and
spirit
of
the
law
and
we're
talking
about
the
letter
of
law.
Our
city
attorney
is
so
eloquently
stated
that
well,
formal
application
hasn't
been
made.
Therefore
it
doesn't
exist,
but
then
again
counsel.
We
can
make
decisions
to
turn
it
down.
I
The
next
question
is
on
the
market
level.
Is
that
I
I
believe
that
they've
tried
renting
out
these
offices
there's
not
enough
market,
for
it.
There's
a
demand
for
storage,
and
so
the
market
is
saying
we
need
more
storage
here,
we're
90,
95
occupied
or
97
occupied,
and
we
need
more
storage
here,
and
yet
we
talk
about
highest
and
best
use
and
whose
definition
is
it
the
market's
definition
or
our
definition?
Or
is
that
the
look
or
the
direction
we
want
to
go
with
that
particular
area
of
the
city
which
is
under
discussion
right
now?
I
L
Thank
you.
Yes,
the
the
fact
that
staff
is
bringing
us
a
proposal
of
a
moratorium
is,
is
really
rare.
It
doesn't
happen
very
often
and
the
fact
that
they're
doing
it
shows
to
me
at
least
that
this
is
a
serious
enough
matter
to
consider
a
moratorium
given,
as
was
stated
by
staff,
the
general
plan
discussions
that
we've
had
and
other
discussions
that
accompany
that.
L
L
L
L
Before
45
days,
we
will
come
back
to
council
to
ask
for
an
extension
and
as
part
of
the
moratorium
process,
that
chief
assistant
and
city
attorney,
he
her
explained-
and
I
believe
mr
kearns
went
through
it
a
little
bit
in
his
presentation
as
well.
So
are
you
coming
back
with
any
information
yeah?
Not
at
this
time,
we
would
ask
for
an
extension
of
the
moratorium
within
that
first
45
days
to
allow
us
additional
time
to
conduct
the
research
you're
asking
about
so
for
council
member
jones.
L
L
That's
our
goal
about
storage
facilities
and
their
app
ethical,
hedgehog,
apricot
ability
to
that
site
and
perhaps
a
statement
about
the
whole
city,
and
it's
actually
it's
the
it's
the
it's
the
latter,
it's
not
with
respect
to
regulations
for
self-storage
on
that
site.
It's
the
moratorium
is
on
the
use
of
self-storage,
regardless
of
where
it's
being
proposed
throughout
the
city.
L
L
L
Thank
you,
mr
jones,
do
I
see
any
other
hands
up
from
my
colleagues?
We
do
have
a
motion
before
us
to
to
adopt
the
ordinance
mayor.
Could
I
could
I
ask
for
a
friendly
amendment?
Is
that
appropriate
to
do
here
and
see
if
council
member
bill
de
la
pena
would
entertain
it?
You
certainly
may
ask
for
an
amendment.
L
I
would
not
be
interested
in
that.
I
will
just
re
state
my
motion
to
approve
staff
recommendation
one
and
two.
This
is
absolutely
important.
We
have
so
little
land
left
in
this
city.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
see
to
it
that
whatever
is
left
over
is
put
to
its
best
used
very
good.
Thank
you
for
entertaining
councilmember
adam
well.
L
I
just
say
that
I,
I
trust
staff
to
come
back
to
us
with
a
very
carefully
thought
out:
comprehensive,
look
at
self
storage
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
not
just
on
these
two
projects,
but
in
this
city
as
a
whole
and-
and
you
know
all
the
pros
and
cons
and
they'll
come
out
to
come
to
us
with
recommendations
that
best
benefit
the
community.
I
mean
they
have
a
great
track
of
check
credit
being
able
to
do
that
and
maybe
they'll
even
bring
in
some
some
experts
to
help
with
it.
L
But
I
I
I
do
trust
that
we'll
get
a
very
good
report
from
them
very
good.
I
think
for
for
myself
and
I'll
just
give
my
two
cents
worth
in
here
for
myself.
I
do
appreciate
councilman
mcnamee's
viewpoint
on
the
the
fairness
perhaps
of
some
of
this.
However,
the
the
reason
I
asked
a
question
about
our
our
authority
as
our
the
land
use
authority
versus
at
right
or
by
right,
we
do
have
a
responsibility
to
look
at
how
we
allow
development
within
our
community.
L
L
I
think
we're
within
our
rights
as
a
council
to
make
that
determination
to
determine
how
a
property
is
used
in
our
community,
even
though
by
the
code
it
might
be
allowed,
but
it
might
not
be
what
we
would
want
it
to
be
used
for.
As
a
council,
it's
not
a
difficult.
I
mean
it's
a
very
difficult
question.
I
I
in
the
three
years
I've
been
on
the
council.
I
don't
think
I've
wrestled
with
one
as
hard
as
this
one.
L
However,
I
do
think
we're
within
our
rights
to
take
a
pause
to
put
a
moratorium
in,
so
that
we
can
at
least
have
staff
take
a
look
at
this
particular
use
across
the
city
so
that
we
can
come
up
with
a
more
organized
and
cogent
approach
to
it.
So
if
there's
no
other
comments,
I
think
I
would
call
for
the
vote
on
the
motion
mayor
engler
before
you
do
that.
L
I
wanted
to
remind
the
council
that
under
state
law
to
in
order
to
adopt
an
urgency
moratorium
ordinance,
it
does
require
a
four-fifth
vote.
Very
good.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
madam
clerk.
If
you
can
call
the
role
councilmember
bill
de
la
pena,
yes,
council,
member,
adam,
yes,
councilmember
mcnamee,.
L
L
L
I
understand
that
perhaps
one
of
our
council
members
would
like
to
make
a
make
a
an
offer
out
there
for
people
to
think
about
council
member
jones
you're
currently
assigned
to
a
committee.
Would
you
like
to
explain
your
thoughts?
Yeah
I've
been
on
the
vrst
now
this
I'm
in
my
fourth
year,
and
I
I
really
think
this
is
a
committee
we
ought
to
a
representation
on,
but
I
really
like
to
give
someone
else
the
opportunity
to
serve
if
it
could
fit
in
there
to
their
schedule.
L
L
L
This
is
an
indication
to
me
that
they're
trying
to
this
is
my
opinion
now
to
take
over
the
toll
on
landfill
they
can
and
if
they
did,
they'd
have
a
monopoly
in
ventura
county.
So
I
think
it's
for
that
and
other
reasons.
I
think
it's
an
important
committee-
and
you
know
we
never
know
how
long
we're
going
to
be
on
the
council.
I
think
it'd
be
good
if
another
council
person
also
would
get
some
experience
on
this
committee.
There
is
a
stipend
to
cover
your
travel.
L
I
think
it's
like
175
dollars
a
meeting.
So
if
anybody's
interested,
I
don't,
we
don't
need
a
decision
tonight.
I
guess,
but
I'd
really
like
to
have
somebody
consider
doing
it.
I
think
it'd
be
well
to
have
at
least
one
other
person
on
our
council
become
acquainted
with
brst
and
and
what
they
do,
and
you
know
the
staff
and
I
think
it's
a
a
vital
organization
for
the
for
the
cities
in
this
county.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
council,
member
jones.
I
guess
we
probably
don't
have
to
make
a
decision
tonight,
but
I'll
throw
it
out
to
anybody
on
the
council
right
now
who
might
be
interested
in
taking
up
the
mantle
you've
left
there.
Is
there
any
of
our
members
who
are
interested
at
this
time.
For
this
particular
item,
madame
de
la
pena.
L
Thank
you.
I
I
actually
cannot
take
this
assignment,
because
it
is
appropriate
to
announce
at
this
time
that
I
will
be
representing
district
46
on
skag
regional
council,
so
my
plate
has
become
fuller,
so
I
will
not
be
able
to
take
over
for
mr
jones.
So
skag
is
now
also
on
on
the
list
to
add
to
council
assignments.
L
L
L
Okay
with
that
said,
we
do
have
a
a
item
to
approve.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
to
improve
so
moved?
I
think
that
was
from
it's
okay
out,
you've
got
it
real
fast.
You
know
how
you've
been
at
this
for
a
lot
longer,
I'm
not
as
quick
on
the
draw
go
ahead
I'll
give
it
I'll
give
it
to
councilmember
adam
any
further
discussion.
L
Thank
you,
mayor,
engler,
just
quickly,
wrapped
this
evening
it's
been
a
very
long
night.
Fortunately,
our
next
meeting
shaping
up
as
a
library
agenda.
We
have
our
community
funding
review
committee,
our
community
enhancement
grants
that
will
be
coming
forward
to
the
council
and
we'll
be
receiving
another
cdd
update,
similar
to
the
one
that
you
received
in
october.
Talking
about
some
of
the
progress
and
laying
out
the
timelines
of
forthcoming
and
giving
the
council
a
chance
to
ask
any
questions
they
have
about
that.
L
That
meeting
will
be
on
the
8th
of
february
and
then
our
meeting
subsequent
to
that
will
be
on
the
22nd
of
february
those
two
meetings
and
consultation
with
mayor
engler
and
talking
to
other
governmental
institutes.
We
are
going
to
continue
to
leverage
the
virtual
meeting
status
for
the
month
of
february,
since
we
have
to
make
a
decision
so
that
will
affect
all
committee's
commissions
and
boards
based
on
that
council
action,
so
we'll
be
virtual
for
february,
and
we
have
every
antenna
being
back
in
person
in
march.
That's
it
for
my
report.