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MEETING OBJECTIVES
Provide a background on health, equity and environmental justice and their relationship to the General Plan
Present existing conditions information on health status, social determinants of health, environmental pollution, and characteristics of the built environment that impact health
Discuss how recent events relate to the General Plan
Brainstorm goals and policies that can be included in the General Plan relating to the above topics
C
C
Recording
is
on
already
good
evening,
everyone.
This
is
matt
ramey
and
it's
nice
to
have
all
of
you
with
us
again
tonight.
This
is
the
eighth
meeting
of
the
general
plan
advisory
committee
and
because
we
have
a
very
full
agenda
tonight,
we
are
going
to
jump
right
in
I'll,
be
10
minutes
late
because
of
technology
issues
and
just
start
right
in
on
our
evening.
Tonight's
presentation
and
discussion
is
going
to
be
on
health,
equity
and
environmental
justice.
C
These
are
clearly
topics
that
have
become
part
of
the
forefront
of
of
what's
going
on
in
in
the
world
today
and
so
they're
very
they're,
very
timely
topics,
our
agenda
and
objectives
tonight
for
this
meeting
after
this,
after
brief
introduction
and
welcome
and
instructions
on
how
to
use
zoom,
we
are
going
to
have
a
guest
presentation
by
dr
gregory
freeland
of
clu
who's,
an
expert
on
environmental
justice.
C
B
B
So
everyone's
got
their
audio
hooked
up
just
to
let
you
know,
there's
two
options:
you
can
use
your
device's
audio
or
you
can
use
headphones
like.
I
am
if
you
prefer
just
be
mindful
of
background
noise,
because
we
do
have
a
large
group
here
on
our
zoom
meeting.
B
B
It's
an
option
to
have
your
video
on
at
some
point.
This
meeting
will
be
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on
facebook,
and
so
it's
completely
up
to
you.
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you'd
like
to
have
your
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you
can
turn
it
on
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clicking
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of
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background
or
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folks
that
are,
in
the
background.
B
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And
then
for
folks
who
are
attending
members
of
the
public
and
eventually
on
facebook.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
We're
happy
that
you're
here
we're
encouraging
you
to
follow
along
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feedback.
There's
actually
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forum
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we
have
for
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who
are
watching
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or
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A
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This
will
be
open
longer
than
we
have
listed
here,
since
this
meeting
will
be
recorded.
If
you
have
something
you'd
like
to
submit
after
that,
and
the
poll
has
closed,
feel
free
to
email,
the
team,
gptox.org
and
then
just
a
note
for
folks
that
are
on
the
line
with
us
right
now.
We
will
have
an
opportunity
to
call
on
you
we're
going
to
wait
a
little
bit
later
in
the
meeting
we're
going
to
try
to
get
through
a
lot
of
content.
C
Thank
you,
so
I
would
like
to
now
we're
going
to
actually
have
a
special
guest
speaker
tonight,
dr
gregory
freeland
from
california
lutheran
university.
As
I
mentioned,
dr
freeland
is
a
professor
of
political
science.
C
He
is
a
the
director
of
the
global
studies
program
and
a
faculty
advisor
to
the
model
united
nations.
We
asked
dr
freeland
to
talk
tonight
and
sort
of
help
set
the
stage
for
the
conversation.
C
He
is
the
an
expert
on
environmental
justice
and
we
really
want
him
to
really
appreciate
him
coming
tonight
and
we
really
appreciate
his
perspective.
So
I'm
going
to
take
my
screen
sharing
off
and
then
dr
freeland
are
you.
Are
you
there.
D
D
Yes,
I
want
to
do
a
just
a
brief
introduction
to
the
definition
environment,
justice,
as
well
as
a
little
bit
of
a
background
and
so
on.
But
I
read
the
material
that
you
have
already
is
very,
very
good,
especially
amateurs,
excellent.
So
I
will
begin
you
know
we
just
lost
a
great
individual,
a
congressman
john
lewis,
and
I
have
a
quote
from
him
to
sort
of
set
a
stage
for
my
presentation
tonight
and
feel
free
to
you
know:
ask
questions
whenever
you
like.
D
It
was
a
courageous
and
brilliant
idea
to
bring
people
together
in
a
new
way
of
thinking:
cooperative
land
ownership,
not
just
an
individual,
but
a
community
term.
Environmental
justice
came
about
basically
pretty
much
in
the
1980s.
D
Many
of
us
are
already
familiar
with
the
environmental
movement
going
back
to
the
60s
and
so
on,
talking
about
sustainability,
and
you
know,
saving
all
forests
etc
and
so
on,
and
I
give
his
definition
of
environmental
justice
because
a
lot
of
times
it's
sort
of
mixed
with
the
environmental
and
racism,
the
two
different
things
really
but
they're,
also
relative
in
certain
ways,
so
environmental
justice
can
be
defined
in
numerous
ways,
but
the
general
definition
would
be
that
environmental
justice
deals
quote
fair
treatment
of
people
of
all
races,
income
and
cultures,
with
respect
to
the
development,
implementation
and
enforcement
of
environmental
laws,
regulations
and
policies
and
their
meaningful
involvement
in
the
decision-making
processes
of
the
government.
D
Based
on
this
definition,
environmental
justice
is
achieved
when
everyone,
regardless
of
race,
culture
or
income,
enjoys
the
same
degree
of
protection
for
environmental
and
health
hazards
and
equal
access
to
the
decision-making
process
to
help
a
healthy
environment
just
to
live,
learn
and
work.
D
With
that
in
mind,
a
little
bit
of
background
to
the
general
environment,
justice
movement
as
it
takes
place
on
a
international
and
national
level,
that
sort
of
flows
down
to
the
regional
and
the
local
during
the
1970s
and
early
1980s,
many
low-income
communities
and
communities
occurred
across
the
country,
including
latinos
african-americans.
Asian
americans
and
native
americans
concluded
that
unequal
social,
economic
and
political
power
relationships
made
them
more
vulnerable
to
health
and
environmental
threats
than
society
large.
D
Numerous
studies
consistently
point
out
that
minorities
and
low-income
communities
are
disproportionately
exposed
to
environmental
harms.
In
this
now
I
read
the
thousand
oaks
report
and,
according
to
the
report,
it
does
not
have
areas
that
are
identified
as
certainly
considered
disadvantaged
communities.
However,
the
disadvantaged
communities
analysis
found
that
there
are
census
tracts
in
the
cities
within
average
household
income
in
the
lowest
20
census,
tracts
in
the
state.
D
So,
due
to
the
presence
of
lower
income
census
tracts-
and
I
mentioned
that
this
is
also
prepared
for
the
2020
census,
which
is
should
be
already
in
the
euros.
D
So
we
we'll
see
what
that
has
to
say
but
thousand
looks
subject
to
a
california
environmental
justice
development
department,
as
as
you
all
know,
so,
this
focus
on
environmental
justice
can
be
traced
to
the
environmental
justice
cases
in
1979
in
texas
and
another
one
in
1982,
in
north
carolina
in
1979,
residents
of
northwood
manor
east
east
alleged
that
the
decision
to
place
a
garbage
dump
in
the
neighborhood
was
racially
motivated
in
violation
of
their
civil
rights.
D
On
the
civil
rights
side,
the
district
court
in
dean
versus
southwestern
waste
management
company
found
that
the
placement
of
the
event
would
imperably
harm
it.
The
court
specifically
found
that
the
landfill
would
quote
affect
the
entire
nature
of
the
community.
Its
land
values
is
tax
base,
it's
aesthetics,
the
health
and
safest
inhabitants
and
the
operations
of
course,
of
the
local
high
schools
by
the
high
schools
located
southwest
from
the
site.
D
The
initial
environmental
justice
cell
breakout,
which
most
people
started
familiar
with,
sprang
out
from
one
kind
of
north
carolina
protest
in
1982,
a
small
predominant
african-american
community
was
designated
to
host
a
hazardous
waste
landfill.
The
landfill
would
accept
pcb
contaminated
soil
that
resulted
from
the
illegal
dumping
of
toxic
waste
along
roadways.
D
The
people
in
warren
county
ultimately
lost
the
battle
and
but
their
story.
One
of
ordinary
people,
driven
to
desperate
meds,
to
protect
their
homes
from
toxic
assault,
drew
national
intention
to
fight
imagination.
People
across
the
country
who
lived
through
similar
injustice.
D
Cities
are
often
at
the
center
of
these
land
use
conflicts.
They
pit
low-income
communities,
communities
of
color
against
polluting
industries
and
agencies
with
environmental
justice
movement
in
the
united
states.
They
generate
national
media
attention
in
80s.
What
is
due
to
this
type
of
vocational
conflict?
When
residents
fought
the
building
of
a
hazardous
waste
up
in
their
communities
on
the
grounds
of
environmental
races?
D
One
other
important
occurrence
in
1987,
commission
of
racial
justice,
united
church
of
christ,
publishing
an
influential
national
study,
toxic
waste
and
race
in
the
united
states,
which
identified
race
as
the
single
most
important
factor
in
determining
where
toxic
waste
facilities
were
built
in
the
united
states.
D
D
These
environmental
burdens
are
not
only
just
the
concentrating
communities
of
color
in
low
income
communities,
but
evidence
suggests
that
these
same
communities
are
overwhelmingly
more
susceptible
than
vulnerable
to
ill
effects
from
disclosure
due
to
a
variety
of
social
demographic
factors.
For
example,
such
communities
may
have
a
larger
child
and
senior
populations
compared
to
others.
D
D
D
All
of
these
factors
can
contribute
to
the
following
some
hard
times
on
certain
communities.
D
The
effect
of
multiple
losings
from
multiple
sources
combined
with
these
underlying
social
demographic
volatility
and
overbearing
communities
result
it
was
termed
cumulative
impacts,
cumulative
impacts,
cumulative
impacts
is
a
framework
for
thinking
about
and
assessing
the
vulnerability
of
communities
taking
into
account
both
environmental
and
social
demographic
factors.
D
D
Now,
just
a
little
quick,
a
discussion
here
about
environmental
justice,
zoning
and
planning
zoning
practices
and
decisions
that
on
their
face,
are
race,
neutral,
routine
that
allow
communities
to
call
them
pokemons
to
be
zoned.
For
example,
industrial
significantly
contribute
to
disproportionate
placement
of
hazards
and
toxic
industries
in
these
neighborhoods
zoning
plan
contribute
to
inequitable
development,
and
this
has
important
implications
for
design
of
neighborhoods
health
and
health
disparities.
D
D
after
progress
was
made
to
control
the
spread
of
infectious
diseases
through
advances
in
environmental
health,
engineering,
public
health
and
so
on.
Urban
planning,
diverse
in
mission
and
perspective.
The
plan
of
citizen
zone
ordinance
focus
more
on
aesthetics,
economics
and
the
profit
rights
of
privilege
and
less
on
public
health.
D
It's
been
established
that
area's
zone
industrial
have
greater
environmental
burdens
and
health
risks
than
arizona
zone
for
residents
use.
Therefore,
zoning
practices
about
heavy
industry,
minority,
low-income
communities
that
contributed
overall
decline
in
these
communities
as
the
presence
of
industry,
property
values,
decreased
community
members
are
slowly
displaced
and
these
areas
are
becoming
increasingly
undesirable.
D
A
july
2
2003
report
by
the
national
academy
of
public
administration
addressing
community
concerns
how
environmental
justice
relates
to
land
use,
planning
and
zoning,
and
they
are
referred
to
the
work
of
julianna
mantei
in
her
article
zoning
law,
health
and
environmental
justice.
What's
the
connection,
they
reported
that
the
historically
and
current
local
land
use
and
zone
impulses
are
quote
a
root
enabling
cause
of
disproportionate
burdens
and
environmental
injustice.
C
C
D
As
well,
these
studies
reveal
that
the
disproportionate
burden
of
noxious
salvation
uses
and
this
pathogenic
infrastructure-
these
are
now
unhealthy.
Physical
environments,
increased
alphabets,
negative
health,
behaviors
disparities
in
disease
such
as
asthma,
cancers,
obesity,
diabetes
and
cardiovascular
disease
in
urban
environments.
D
So
in
conclusion,
it's
like
to
say
that
presently
there
appears
to
be
a
serious
recognition
of
environmental
justice
as
a
helpful
solution
to
environmental
problems.
D
For
example,
city
plans
are
viewing
frameworks
that
focus
on
developing
livable
spaces,
where
people
can
work
play
and
shop
without
the
funeral
homes.
So
to
achieve
social
equity
and
environmental
justice,
we
must
have
great
public
involvement.
D
Overall
considerations
for
environment
health
of
this
whole
community
and
fair
allocation
of
resources
jurisdictions
have
already
implemented
a
wide
variety
of
goals,
wide
range
of
goals,
past
objective
actions
that
prom
promote
social
equity
and
environmental
justice,
such
as
zoning,
in
a
way
that
avoids
incompatible
main
uses,
developing
affordable
housing
for
the
residences
and
incorporating
accessibility
guidelines
into
building
codes,
and
I
just
understand,
appeals
knowledge
is
heading
in
that
direction.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
That's
it.
C
Thank
you,
dr
freeland.
That
was
an
amazing
overview
of
environmental
justice
nationally
and
the
the
causes
of
it
and
some
of
the
impacts.
We
really
appreciate
that
we're
gonna
move
into
a
little
bit
of
background
and
existing
conditions,
and
then
dr
freeland
is
gonna
be
on
and
please
he
is
a
quite
an
expert
on
this
topic.
So
just
very
you
know,
broadly
on
environmental
justice.
C
So
if
you
have
questions
for
him
and
questions
for
how
environmental
justice
is
kind
of
can
potentially
or
plays
out
in
and
around
thousand
oaks,
please
get
those
questions
ready
because
he's
going
to
help
us
facilitate
the
conversation
this
evening,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
here
again
and
then
we're
going
to
move
on
with
the
the
presentation
I
want
to
start
after
that
overview,
and
in
fact
you
you
covered
a
lot
of
what
I
was
going
to
cover.
C
So
I'm
going
to
move
through
some
of
these
topics
pretty
quickly.
So
we
can
get
to
our
really
important
discussion
tonight,
but
I
want
to
start
with
the
social
context
that
we're
living
in
now
and
and
start
with
a
real
acknowledgement
that,
between
the
the
protests
that
are
going
on
over
police
police
brutality,
as
well
as
the
impacts
of
covid,
we're
seeing
a
sort
of
greater
recognition
of
the
injustices
that
are
occurring
overall
throughout
the
united
states.
C
And
you
know
it's
a
very
it's
a
very
challenging
topic
to
talk
about
it's
very
emotional
for
for
a
lot
of
people,
there's
varying
levels
of
knowledge
about
about
what
racism
is
and
what
equity
means.
And
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
really
kind
of
bring
everyone
on
to
the
same
page.
With
with
these
conversations
and
think
about
how
we
can
incorporate
these
concepts
into
the
general
plan,
which,
as
you
all
you
all
know,
is
the
city's
constitution
and
guiding
documents.
C
So
you
know
we.
We
know
that
in
recent
months
there
have
been
lots
and
lots
of
demonstrations
against
police
violence.
These
photos
are
actually
from
thousand
oaks
really.
The
most
recent
was
the
killing
of
george
floyd.
However,
it
clearly,
he
was
only
the
latest
in
a
long
string
of
deaths
that
have
occurred
at
the
hands
of
police
overall
across
the
country
and
again,
I'm
not
pointing
out
thousand
oaks
here.
I'm
just
saying
that
this
is
what's
been
happening
all
across
the
country.
C
These
images
here
are
actually
from
demonstrations
that
were
going
on
in
thousand
oaks,
so
this
is
very
relevant
for
the
city.
Concurrent
with
that
we
have,
we
have
covet,
and
I
you
know
I
know
you-
everyone
has
been
impacted
by
this,
and
everyone
has
been
severely
impacted
by
covid.
C
You
know
in
particular,
these
are
numbers
from
california
for
coveted
deaths
by
race
and
ethnicity,
and
what
we
can
see
the
green
is
the
percentage
of
deaths
and
the
blue
is
the
percentage
of
the
population,
and
what
we
can
see
is
that
african
americans
and
latinos
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
coveted
deaths
as
well
as
the
as
well
as
those
who
are
infected
by
covid.
So
there's
a
there's,
an
equity
issue
that
we
have
going
on
here.
C
In
addition,
because
of
covid,
we
have
this
incredible
economic
crisis:
that's
going
on
and
extremely
high
unemployment
rates
in
such
a
short
period
of
time,
and
the
unemployment
has
hit
latino
black
and
asian
populations
a
lot
harder
than
it
hit
the
white
populations,
the
national
average
you
can
see
here
in
the
vertical
dotted
line
and
that
latinos,
blacks
and
asians
are
are
all
higher
than
the
national
average
in
terms
of
unemployment
and
so
there's
an
economic
impact.
C
So
I
want
to
sort
of
kind
of
take
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
shift
here,
because
what
we,
what
is
going
on
a
lot
of
with
a
lot
of
this
is,
is
racism
and
it's
not
necessarily
the
racism
of
individuals,
which
is
what
we
commonly
think
about.
So
I
want
us
to
be
on
the
the
same
page
here
about
these
different
types
of
racism.
C
There
are
generally
two
types
of
racism
that
really
impact
a
general
plan
and
planning
and
those
are
institutional,
racism
and
structural
racism
when
we
say
institutional
racism,
we're
really
talking
about
the
discriminant,
discriminatory
treatment,
unfair
policies,
unfair
policies
and
inequitable
opportunities
and
impacts
based
on
race
that
are
produced
and
maintained
by
institutions.
C
When
we
say
structural
racism,
what
we
mean
is
a
system
of
institutions,
so
institutions
working
together
that
interact
with
one
another
to
generate
and
reinforce
these
inequities.
It
essentially
normalizes
and
reinforces
the
existing
dynamics
that
advantage
white
people
while
producing
cumulative
and
chronic
adverse
outcomes
for
people
of
color.
C
So
I
know
it's
it's
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
challenging
to
think
about
some
of
this.
But
if,
if
you
all
remember
when
we
had
the
happy
city
presentation
by
charles
montgomery,
as
he
talked
about
zoning
and
and
the
racism
that
occurs
with
zoning
and
redlining
and
those
are
actually
examples
of
institutional
racism
that
have
happened
over
the
years
and
then
we
think
about
this
question
of
what
is
and
what
is
equity-
and
I
want
to
differentiate
here
between
equity
and
equality.
C
So
equity
is
when
our
equality
is
when
everyone
gets
the
same
amount.
So,
for
example,
everyone
gets
a
bonus
of
a
hundred
dollars.
That
is
equality,
so
everyone
gets
the
same
amount,
but
because
people
are
starting
at
different
levels.
They're
still,
as
you
can
see
in
the
in
the
image
here,
they're
still,
people
are
still
at
at
different
levels
here,
ultimately,
and
what
we
really
want
is
equality,
where
everyone
ultimately
ends
up
at
exactly
the
same
place.
So
everyone
has
what
they
need
for
everybody
to
be
equal
and
that's
really.
C
What
we're
trying
to
achieve
here
with
the
general
plan
overall
and
and
what
we
try
to
do
in
in
planning.
Is
we
try
to
get
to
equality
and
trying
to
get
to
to
equity,
and
you
you
can't
have
equality.
Unless
you
have
equity,
then
there's
a
term
called
the
social
determinants
of
health,
and
this
is
a
sort
of
a
a
busy
slide.
C
But
I
want
to
go
back
a
little
bit
to
what
dr
freeland
said,
which
is
you
planning
and
zoning
really
started
by
addressing
the
health
from
land
use
from
land
uses,
and
it
was
dealing
with
essentially
disease
and
injury,
and
that's
what
we
call
the
downstream
effects
of
these
landings
decisions
and
that's
what
you
see
sort
of
on
the
right,
but
over
time,
we've
all
learned
that
there's
other
things
upstream,
decisions
that
are
made
that
lead
to
the
downstream
impacts,
and
so
the
public
health
field
for
a
very
long
time
was
really
dealing
with
these
downstream
issues.
C
They
were
dealing
with
the
chronic
diseases
and
communicable
diseases,
but
what
we've
realized
is
that,
in
order
to
solve
those
diseases,
we
actually
have
to
look
upstream.
We
have
to
be
like
a
salmon
swimming
upstream
and
actually
deal
with
some
of
these
really
challenging
issues
such
as
the
social
inequities,
the
institutional
inequities
and
the
living
conditions
that
some
people
are
in
and
what
we
do
know
overall
and
as
dr
freeland.
C
So
so
wonderfully
pointed
out
and
eloquently
pointed
out,
there
are
disparities
nationally,
according
to
race,
ethnicity
and
income
that
are
disproportionately
impacting
low-income
people
of
color,
and
that's
really,
this
concept
of
environmental
justice
that
we're
trying
to
get
at
and
really
broadly
what
we're
really
thinking
and
talking
about
and
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
is
healthy
and
equitable
communities,
and
there
are
all
of
these
factors
that
go
into
healthy
and
equitable
communities.
It's
it's
not
just
you
know
it's
not
just
income,
but
but
that
that
matters.
C
It's
whether
you
have
access
to
health
care,
whether
you
have
access
to
parks,
whether
your
neighborhood
is
walkable,
whether
you
live
in
an
area
where
there's
pollution
and
toxics
and
all
of
these
factors
again
are
these
cumulative
factors
that
add
up
to
how
healthy
some
people
are
compared
to
others,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
again
is
to
get
to
equity,
to
make
it
so
that
everybody
is
healthy
and
everyone
can
live
in
a
healthy
and
equitable
community,
and
so
what
what
we're
going
to
do?
C
C
And
what
can
we
put
into
the
general
plan
so
that
this
that
the
community
is
more
healthy
and
equitable
than
it
is
today
in
every
community,
regardless
of
how
well
they're
doing
and
thousand
oaks
is
doing
really
well
overall,
but
every
community
has
the
ability
to
do
better,
and
so
I
want
us
to
sort
of
encourage
us
to
think
through
that,
and
so,
let's,
let's
go
through
to
the
existing
conditions
overview.
C
I'm
sure
you
all
have
lots
of
questions
already
and
lots
of
thoughts.
Please
please
hold
them
for
a
minute
and
we're
going
to
go
through
the
the
presentation.
Hopefully
you
all
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
Just
look
for
a
couple
minutes
when
it
was
sent
out
this
morning,
so
we
want
to
start
with
with
race
and
and
equity
here.
C
Sorry,
race
and
ethnicity,
and
this
chart
shows
the
that
thousand
oaks
is
generally
has
a
larger
white
population
compared
to
ventura
county
and
the
smaller
hispanic
latino
population,
the
the
asian
population
and
black
population
are
actually
pretty
similar,
and
what
we
can
see
here
with
the
colors
on
the
map
is
that
the
blue
and
the
darker
green
are
areas
where,
in
the
the
census,
block
groups
between
25
and
50
percent
or
50
to
75
of
the
population
is
hispanic,
which
is
the
largest
percentage.
C
So
what
we
see
is
that
there's
concentrations
of
areas
where
there
is
a
larger
percentage
of
hispanic
populations,
another
term
that
we
have
here
you
know
with
social
determinants
of
health.
Another
indicator
is
the
percent
of
the
population
without
a
high
school
degree,
and
education
is
very
strongly
correlated
with
health
outcomes
because
it
provides
people.
C
If
you
have
a
higher
the
higher
the
education,
the
better
access
you
have
to
a
well-paying
job,
the
better
access
you
have
to
health
care,
to
a
quality
place
to
live
to
healthy
foods,
so
to
access
the
parks.
And
so
what
we
see
again
is
that
there
are
areas
there
are
census
tracts
in
the
city
where
the
25
to
30
percent
of
the
population
of
the
adult
population
does
not
have
a
high
school
degree,
there's
a
small
area
where
it's
30
to
62
percent.
C
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
that,
that
one
area,
but
there
are
these
pockets
where
there's
a
large
percentage
without
a
high
school
degree.
Now,
overall
thousand
oaks
is
doing
much
better
than
the
county
and
the
state
as
a
whole.
However,
there
are
these
geographic
areas
and
and
part
of
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
looking
at
what
those
geographic
areas
are.
C
We
also
know
that
income
is
a
is
a
strong
social
determinant
of
health
outcomes
and
it's
even
stronger
than
educational
attainment.
As
with
you
know,
as
with
high
school
and
education,
it
is
linked
to
where
you
can
live,
what,
whether
you
have
access
to
health
care,
whether
you
have
access
to
healthy
foods,
and
what
we
see
here
is
that
in
the
city
there
are
disparities
along
racial
and
ethnic
lines
about
the
about
the
income
of
the
average.
C
The
median
household
income
of
a
household,
the
the
median
is
just
over
105
000,
and
what
we
can
see
here
is
that
black
african-american
and
hispanic
latino
are
below
the
average
and
then
asian
and
white
white
is
actually
right
at
the
average
in
asian
and
american,
indian
and
alaskan
native
are
well
above
the
line.
So
what
we
see
is
again
disparities
in
income
across
the
city.
C
And
then
we
look
at
poverty
overall.
Interestingly,
the
this,
the
city
does
not
vary
across
very
much
across
racial
and
ethnic
lines,
not
as
much
as
you
can
see
ventura
county
here,
but
there
are
still
pockets
where
you
have
large
percentage.
15
to
20
percent
of
the
population
that
or
higher
that
is,
is
considered
living
in
poverty.
So
again,
these
are
areas
of
social
determinants
of
health
that
we
want
to
look
at
switching
over
to
health
outcomes.
C
Overall,
the
the
city
is
actually
doing
again
doing
really
well,
but
and
and
compared
to
the
state.
The
state
average
is
80.9.
This
information
here
shows
the
county,
and
so
the
county
itself
is
doing.
You
know
overall
really
well
compared
to
the
state
and
the,
but
there
are
disparities
along
again
along
racial
and
ethnic
lines
here,
although
not
as
extreme
as
what
we've
seen
in
other
jurisdictions.
C
C
So
there's
a
bunch
of
areas
here
in
the
city
that
that
have
higher
rates
higher
rates
than
the
than
the
county
but
lower
than
the
state
diabetes
is
another
health
impact
that
we
see,
and
you
know
overall,
the
city
is
doing
much
better
than
the
then
the
state
or
or
essentially
the
county
as
well.
We
have
a
the
majority
of
the
area
is
less
than
nine
percent
less
than
nine
of
people
per
ten
thousand
who
have
who
have
diabetes.
C
So
again,
the
city
is
doing
really
well
in
this
indicator.
Dr
freeland
mentioned
the
environmental
justice
element
and
environmental
justice
in
the
general
plan,
and
that's
really
our
hook
to
be
able
to
deal
with
these
issues.
In
the
general
plan
in
2016,
the
state
signed,
what's
called
sb
1000,
which
required
community,
which
required
every
jurisdiction
that
has
a
quote
identified
disadvantaged
community
to
to
prepare
an
environmental
justice
element
or
to
address
topics
of
environmental
justice
throughout
the
general
plan.
There's
a
three-step
process.
The
first
is
the
identification
of
disadvantaged
communities.
C
So
we
went
through
the
process
and
actually
we,
the
the
state
about
three
weeks
ago,
finally
came
out
with
their
revised
guidance
for
how
we
do
a
screening
for
disadvantaged
communities
and
actually
that
revised
screening
has
changed
the
the
city's
status
for
disadvantaged
communities.
C
So
the
first
method
that
you
do
is
there's
a
state
tool
called
calenviroscreen,
which
essentially
looks
at
the
broad
it's
an
indices
of
a
combination
of
of
income
and
race,
ethnicity,
combined
with
environmental,
environmental
pollution,
and
you
get
a
score
and
if
you're
in
the
25
worst
percent
in
the
state,
you're
considered
a
a
disadvantaged
community
and
the
the
city
does
not
have
any
of
those.
C
The
second
method
is
to
take
low-income
areas
which
are
80
of
the
state
or
the
county
median
income,
and
we
do
this
by
block
group
and
then
look
individually
at
sources
of
pollution
burden
in
in
the
city
and
that
when
you
blend
the
two
of
those
together,
you
end
up
with
disadvantaged
communities.
So
then
you
take
method,
one
and
method,
two
put
it
together
and
you
identify
what
your
disadvantaged
communities
are
in
the
city
and
what
we
found
when
we
did.
That
analysis
is
that
these
areas
in
red
here
are
identified
disadvantaged
communities.
C
So,
looking
at
at
some
in
diving
detail
in
just
a
couple
of
these,
one
is
housing
cost
burden,
and
you
know
we
know
that
the
city
and
the
whole
region
is
very
impacted
by
housing
costs
and
here
there's
a
there's,
a
method
that's
done
for
calenviroscreen
about
what
is
the
burden,
and
what
you
see
here
is
that
you
have
some
census
tracts
that
are
in
the
top
25
worst
75
to
100,
percentile
of
of
housing
cost
burden.
C
Food
access
in
some
areas
is
also
low.
Interestingly,
the
the
food
access
actually
is
a
little
bit
flipped
here,
according
to
the
lower
income
and
minority
populations,
which
tend
to
occur
along
generally
along
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
the
101
freeway,
that's
where
the
retail
is,
and
so
that's
why
there's
access.
But
it's
really
areas
outside
of
this
that
actually
where
there
is
no
or
limited
access,
and
that's
just
because
of
the
the
low
density
pattern
of
the
community
and
again
this
may
not
be
as
much
of
an
issue.
C
That
that
we
have-
and
if
you
look
at
the
report,
you'll
see
that
there's
a
lot
of
data
there,
but
overall
I
just
want
to
sort
of
leave
with
a
couple
conclusions
before
we
go
into
what
the
general
plan
can
do
about
this.
The
first
is
that
overall
thousand
oaks
is
a
very
healthy
community.
By
many
many
many
years
the
poverty
rates
are
low
overall,
that
it
doesn't
vary
by
race,
ethnicity,
life
expectancy
is,
is
overall
really
high.
C
The
asthma
and
diabetes
rates
are
actually
lower
than
the
county,
there's
generally
lower
levels
of
pollution.
So,
overall
the
city
is
doing
well
and
there's
a
lot
to
be
proud
of,
as
you
know,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
there's
not
areas
for
improvement,
and
so
what
we
did
see
is
that
latino
hispanic
population
has
lower
educational
attainment
and
lower
income
than
racial
and
ethnic
groups.
C
There
are
health,
there
are
pollution
burdens
going
on
in
the
city,
and
so
there
are
areas
identified
as
disadvantaged
communities
and
in
particular,
some
households
are
experiencing
a
housing
cost
burden,
and
so
that
leads
us
to
the
question
of
how
can
a
general
plan
address
these
inequities
and
I
just
want
to
sort
of
pose
that
there's
three
different
ways
that
that
the
general
plan
can
address
this
just
very
broadly,
and
this
is
a
little
theoretical,
but
there
it's
procedural,
distributional
and
structural,
so
procedural
is
think
about
it
as
the
process.
C
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
process
is
transparent,
fair
and
inclusive.
You
know,
as
you
know,
you
all
have
been
helping
us
trying
to
do
that
with
the
general
plan
update
process
to
reach
out
to
as
many
people
as
we
can,
and
particularly
people
who
are
not
typically
part
of
the
process,
so
we're
we're,
starting
that
we
can
always
do
better
koben
sort
of
threw
a
wrenching
at
our
engagement.
But
you
know
we
are
doing
that.
C
The
next
is,
which
is
a
fairly
distributed:
resources,
benefits
and
burdens
across
the
population,
and
so
we
can
prioritize
resources
for
communities
that
experience
the
greatest
inequities
and
unmet
needs,
and
then
the
last
is
is
structural,
and
so
we
can
look
at
sort
of
the
overall.
C
There
are
lots
of
topics
that
we
can
deal
with
when
we're
thinking
about
health
and
equity.
In
the
general
plan
we
went
through
a
series
of
those,
but
the
pedestrian
environment
is
is
and
bicycle
transportation,
or
definitely
two
that
we've
heard
from
the
very
beginning
of
the
process
that-
and
they
are,
you-
know-
considered
environmental
justice
issues,
access
to
parks,
to
schools
and
to
health
services,
air
and
water
pollution.
C
There
are
certainly
sources
of
pollution
in
the
city,
food
access,
educational
attainment
and
then
social
service
programs
that
address
these
underlying
causes
of
crime
and
address
underlying
causes
of
some
of
the
social
and
environmental
and
health
issues
that
we're
seeing
in
the
city,
and
so
with
you
know
now
I
want
to
kind
of
turn
it
over.
C
First,
maybe
we
can
start
with
questions,
and
then
we
can
move
into
a
discussion.
The
discussion
questions
just
to
sort
of
tee
this
up
for
you,
so
you
can
think
about
it.
The
first
is
in
the
environment
that
we're,
given
the
demonstrations
and
covid
have
these
events
and
has
this
time
influenced
your
perspectives
regarding
equity
and
public
health?
If
so,
how
has
that
happened?
The
second
is:
what
are?
What
do
you
think
are
some
of
the
most
critical
health,
equity
and
environmental
justice
issues
that
thousand
oaks
should
deal
with.
C
You
know
we
recognize
that
there
are
very
broad
environmental
issues,
things
that
you
know
dr
fulin
talked
about
going
on
in
north
carolina
and
in
texas
and
other
places,
but
some
of
those
things
may
not
apply.
C
So
the
question
is:
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
that
we
can
deal
with
in
thousand
oaks
and
then
overall?
What
is
your
vision
for
healthy,
equitable
housing?
What
are
the
goals?
Are
there
targets
that
we
want
to
strive
for?
Are
there
measures
of
success
and
then
what
are
specific
policies,
actions
or
funding?
That's
needed
to
improve
health
and
equity?
C
Okay,
so
that
was
a
lot
with
that,
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
here
we
can
come
back
to
that
if,
if
folks
want
to
who
want
to
speak,
if
you
can
put
your
camera
on,
I
think
it'll
be
a
lot
easier
for
us
to
see
you
and
we
can
see
you
raise.
C
I
can
raise
your
hand
here
with
this
and
we're
also
going
to
go
to
the
the
look
at
the
participants
and
see
who's
raising
their
hands,
so
you
can
go
and
you
can
do
your
ray's
hand
on
the
side
or
you
can
just
kind
of
wave
at
me.
Why
don't
we
start
with
questions
about
what
dr
freeland
presented
or
questions
about
the
existing
conditions,
information
that
I
presented.
C
C
Okay,
rory,
I
see
your
hand
up.
E
Yes,
one
thing
that
occurred
to
me
is
that
I
haven't
heard
of
any
controversy
in
thousand.
E
Los
angeles
is
it
just
because
rents
are
so
high
anyway,
it
doesn't
really
matter,
or
do
we
have
redevelopment
going
on
that's
pushing
out
people
who
have
lower
rents
right
now,.
C
Yeah,
that's
that's
an
excellent
question.
I
think
you,
you
sort
of
answered
your
own
question
there.
C
There
are
what
we
and
staff
please
jump
in
here
and
dr
freeland,
but
you
know
I
think
what
we're
seeing
is
that
there
are
not
there's
not
the
disparity
that
you
have
in
other
communities
like
in
los
angeles
and
and
there's
not
the
the
kind
of
push
for
for
new
people
to
move
in
who
are
gonna
bump
those
people
out
and
that's
what
we
end
up
seeing,
and
so
we
don't
have
that
disparity
in
in
housing
in
thousand
oaks.
D
C
And
others
can
help
answer
these
questions
too
gpac
members
as
well.
This
is
a
discussion.
C
So
no
no
questions
and
we
can
keep
asking
you
guys
can
keep
thinking
about
those.
So
let
me
maybe
switch
and
and
go
with
with
maybe
an
easier
topic
to
talk
about,
because
I
know
that
overall
racism
and
equity
is
is
actually
a
really
challenging
topic
for
many
of
us
to
to
talk
about
what
are
the
the
key
topics
or
issues.
You
all
think
the
general
plan
should
address
when
it
comes
to
environmental
justice
and
the
environment
that
we
live
in
and.
D
Well,
you
know
you
know
if
I
could
ask
a
question:
just
what
type
of
industries
are
in
thousand
oaks,
that
would
generate,
say
environmental
problems
or
are
there
any.
C
C
There
are
also
lots
of
smaller,
auto
related
dry
cleaners
and
then
transportation,
which
are
also
impacts,
and
if
you
sort
of
see
the
there's
a
big
spine
along
the
freeway
along
the
101
freeway,
where
there
is
a
burden
of
pollution
from
from
the
vehicles
passing
through,
but
there
are
also
smaller
businesses
the
the
city
does
not.
C
You
know
traditionally
have
heavy
industry
with
lots
of
trucks
like
if
you
think
about
the
port
of
los
angeles
part
of
long
beach,
so
there
isn't
that
kind
of
heavy
heavy
industry
or
heavy
vehicles
moving
through.
So
again
you
know.
Overall,
you
know.
While
there
are
disadvantaged
communities
there,
there's
also
a
lot
of
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
good
in
the
city.
There's
a
you
know,
overall,
from
health
perspective,
it's
a
really
healthy
place.
I
think
we
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
when
we're
doing
this.
C
But
again
there
are
other
disparities
we
might
want
to
address.
I
see
alicia
has
her
hand
up.
G
Okay,
hello
hi.
This
is
alicia
well.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
mention
I'd
like
to
thank
you
that
you
mentioned
all
the
social
determinants
of
health.
As
a
nurse,
I
do
believe
that
that
encompasses
every
person's
health.
So
I'm
really
happy
that
you
you
take
all
of
this
into
consideration
and
that's
a
it
is
a
really
great
topic
for
me.
One
of
the
main
issues
I
think
you
have
we
have
to
consider
for
this
environment
justice
is.
We
have
mentioned
housing?
G
Yes,
for
example,
the
the
covet
19
is
a
great
example
of
how
why
latinos
have
been
affected
the
most
because
they
tend
to
leave
a
lot
of
people
in
one
same
house,
so
that
kind
of
it's
gonna
affect.
If
one
person
gets
infected,
that
more
people
is
gonna
a
lot
all
the
family
is
gonna,
be
infected.
They
don't
have
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
have
benefits
which
they
cannot
work.
G
It's
gonna
affect
financial
distress,
so
anyways,
one
of
the
things
is
housing,
definitely
also
the
environment
as
open
access.
We
mentioned
last
time
as
transportation
if
the
area
where
the
people
live,
don't
have
maybe
parks,
but
maybe
transport.
If
there
is
transportation
available
that
is
close
to
parks
or
maybe
saturdays,
are
free
for
kids,
so
they
can
access
to
a
park.
You
know
or
ideas
like
that
so,
but
they
are
all
kind
of
that
access
healthcare.
G
I
do
work
in
a
community
in
the
community
clinic
that
we
try
to
provide
help
in
that
sense.
You
know
where
at
least
there
is
some
access
for
the
people,
but
for
me
the
main
issues
is
always
housing
and
transportation,
and
but
that's
the
things
that
come
to
my
mind
right
now.
G
One
of
the
one
of
the
questions
I
have
is
and
one
of
the
graphs
he
says
the
income
for
latinos
was
83
000.
Yes,
so
I
don't
know
from
I
mean.
Doesn't
honestly
that
doesn't
reflect
the
people?
I
I
a
lot
of
people,
I
know.
So
maybe
that's
because
these
people
were
not
going,
they
don't
feel
they
didn't
fill
out
the
stencils
or
things
like
that.
But
I
think
that
this
is.
It
doesn't
reflect
what
I
see
in
in
my
community.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
Thank
you.
Those
are
those
are
great
comments
again.
You're
you're
tying
together
these
core
pieces
of
what
we
do
in
the
general
plan,
with
housing
and
transportation
and
land
use
with
the
issues
that
we're
talking
about
just
really
quickly
in
terms
of
the
the
incomes
that
was
median
household
income
of
a
census
tract.
So
there
are
definitely
in
order
to
have
that
median,
because
we
know
there's
a
lot
of
higher
income
populations.
C
We
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
lower
income
populations
as
well,
and
so
we
can
actually
get
some
more
some
more
data
on
that,
let's
see
chase,
you
want
to
jump
in.
H
Yeah
when
it
comes
to
the
city
of
thousands
dealing
with
environmental
justice,
I
think
you
really
would
have
to
look
at
existing
infrastructure.
You
know,
especially
when
it
comes
to
water,
because
a
lot
of
the
disadvantaged
neighborhoods
they're
older
their
their
housing
is
older.
The
buildings
are
older,
they
are
the
older
neighborhoods
and
those
are
neighborhoods
where
you
know
you
tend
to
have
some
problems
sometimes
and
problems
you
may
not
realize
would
crop
up,
because
in
the
past
you
did
have
building
standards
different
and
not
all
the
time.
H
The
that
information
is
not
communicated
into
the
future
and
there's
things
we
don't
know
so
as
far
as
especially
with
water.
That
is
where
we
really
have
to
be
careful.
What
we
have
to
look
at,
because
these
neighborhoods
are
they're
old.
I
live
in
one
of
the
the
neighborhoods
on
the
map.
That
is,
you
know
that
is
labeled
as
having
some
disadvantages,
and
you
know
that
is
a
concern
of
mine.
You
know
older
infrastructure,
you
know,
what's
gonna
happen
with
that.
What's
going
on,
I
think
we
have
to
really
look
at
that.
C
E
Sorry
good
evening,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
echoing
some
of
the
comments
about
housing
and,
obviously
people
being
disproportionately
impacted
by
high
cost
of
housing
and
one
of
the
things
I
noticed-
and
I
know
we
can't
carve
the
data
in
every
different
way
and
thinking
back
to
our
housing
presentation.
I
can't
remember
how
if
we
broke
down
renters
and
what
the
demographics
of
renters
versus
homeowners,
because
thousand
oaks
has
a
lot
of
home
owners
in
the
community
and
then
I
just
also
wanted
to,
of
course
address
homelessness.
E
Is
that
is
my
primary
work
function
and
I'm
passionate
about
that
issue
and
just
want
to
raise
that
homelessness
is
also
an
area
where
we
see
people
of
color,
disproportionately
impacted
and
become
homeless
or
more
at
risk
of
becoming
homeless
and
often
in
ventura
county.
When
we
look
at
our
racial
disparities
around
homelessness,
we
see
black
and
african
american
people
highly
disproportionately
represented
in
that
population,
and
then
they
end
up
staying
homeless
longer,
not
because
they
don't
have
access
to
services,
but
because
it's
harder
for
them
to
obtain
housing.
C
Thank
you.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up
right
now,
so
maybe
we
can
dive
into
a
couple
of
these
topics
in
a
little
more
detail.
So
taro,
if
talking
about
homelessness
and
equity,
I'm
gonna
put
you
on
the
spot
here,
you
know.
What
is
what
do
you?
What's
your
vision
for
what
what
a
more
equitable
community
would
look
like
when
it
comes
to
housing
and
homelessness
and
alicia,
you
should
jump
in
here
as
well.
Since
you
commented
sorry,
I'm
putting
it
no.
E
That's
fine,
thank
you.
I
mean,
I
think,
having
more
housing
that
is
accessible
to
people
at
all
income
levels,
that
you
know
obviously
support
the
people
that
work
in
our
community,
and
so
you
end
up
your
your
community.
E
I
feel
like
thousand
oaks
could
be
more
diverse
if
there
was
housing
that
was
accessible
for
all
of
the
people
that
work
in
the
community
and
then
as
far
as
homelessness.
You
know
one
of
the
things
I'm
often
talking
about
is
access
to
services
within
different
cities
in
ventura
county.
E
One
of
the
things
that
has
been
often
being
discussed
is
you
know.
Thousand
oaks
only
has
a
winter
warming
shelter
program
and
doesn't
so
we
have
people
who
are
on
the
streets
which
obviously
we
have
found
through
our
response
to
covet
the
longer
people
are
living
on
the
streets,
the
more
risks
they
have
related
to
their
health.
C
Okay,
so
so
some
of
it
is
about
providing
a
higher
level
of
services,
year-round.
E
Yeah,
I
think
that
helps
then
people
work
on
a
housing
plan
and
have
access
to
housing,
resources
that
that
may
be
supported
by
the
city.
When
you
have
have
those
services.
C
Great,
we
see
your
hand
is
up
you
wanna.
G
Jump
in
well,
a
couple
of
things
before
I
forget
from
the
recent
comment
is
that
when
I
I
know
homeless,
people
have
access
to
different
shelters
or
food.
Different
churches
like
I
think
they
do
have
one
one.
Each
church
have
provides
access
to
them
each
once
a
day
once
a
week,
but
an
issue
is
that
they
don't
have
transportation.
So
sometimes
when
the
homeless
people,
you
know
they
cannot
go
from
church
to
church
because
it's
they're
far
away
so
they
they.
G
They
don't
have
access
to
those
services
that
are
out
there.
But
that
was
just
one
comment,
but
I
do
agree
on
the
access
to
housing.
To
have
I
mean
apartments
that
are
environmentally
safe.
G
You
know
there
where
there's
no
cockroaches
or
you
know
people
some
of
some
of
the
people
are
gonna,
look
for
the
cheapest
places,
but
then
these
places
are
no
their
duty
or
you
know
there
is
a
lot
of
things
going
on,
so
so
access
to
them
like
where
they
can
rent
an
apartment
that
is
not
expensive
but
is,
at
the
same
time
clean
and
healthy
environment.
G
So
so
that's
one,
maybe
having
more
more
more
apartments.
I
don't
know
the
regulations,
but
that's
one
thing
and
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
take
advantage
of
make
a
comment.
Is
I
rent
a
house
with
with
roommates
and
then
I
I
asking
I'm
talking
to
other
people?
They
also
rent
houses.
G
So
I'm
just
thinking
how
what
percentage
of
the
houses
that
the
people
own
are
for
rent,
because
if
a
lot
of
houses
are
for
I
mean
people,
buy
them
and
or
own
them,
and
then
they
rent
them
that's
more
like
business
and
then
the
people
that
want
to
buy
new
families
or
people
that
want
to
buy
a
home.
They
can't
because-
and
it's
just
an
idea
that
I
have
like-
I
know
a
lot
of
people
drink-
they
buy
a
house
and
they
rent
it.
G
So
I
don't
know
where
the
policies
are
on
that,
but
right
thing
that
could
be
an
issue
for
new
home
owners.
If
you
know
it's
kind
of
closing
their
access
to
that
too.
So.
C
So
that
the
because
people
are
buying
homes
and
then
renting
them
as
a
business,
it
minimizes
the
opportunity
for
home
ownership
for
people
who
want
to
buy
and
then
live
in
those
houses.
G
That,
yes,
that's
something
that
came
out
this
idea,
because
I
hear
a
lot
of
people.
Oh
they're
in
the
house
are
in
the
house
so
like
okay,
who
really
owns
the
houses,
but
yes,
yeah.
C
I
don't
think
there's
any
city
policies
around
stopping
that
very
few
places
have
policies
like
that,
but
it's
certainly
something
to
look
into
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
numbers.
I
actually
have
a
question
for
you.
While,
while
you
were
asking
well
you're
sort
of
on
on
the
line
here,
what
since
you're
working
in
a
health
clinic,
what
are
the
things
that
you're,
seeing
in
terms
of
health
issues
that
you
think
might
be
really
related
to
the
environment
that
people
are
living
in
and
so
what.
E
D
C
Because
you're
you're
pretty
close
to
the
lower
income
populations
in
the
city.
G
Yeah
I
mean
we,
the
the
most
common
that
you
have
mentioned
already
is
diabetes,
high
blood
pressure
and
so
again
like
doctor
for
his
name,
sorry
apologize.
You
know
that
he
mentioned
that
all
because
they
don't
have
access
to
places
to
do
a
physical
activity
or
they'll
have
the
financial
means
to
to
buy
healthy
food.
So
this
kind
of
those
are
the
main
ones:
the
diabetes,
high
blood
pressure,
high
cholesterol,
and
so
those
are
the
domains.
So
all
right,
okay,.
C
And
it's
related
to
working
a
lot
not
having
the
money
to
buy
healthy
foods
and
lack
of
physical
access
and
time
for
for
physical
activity.
G
Well,
we
don't
see
we,
we
don't
see
children
that
much
because
they
they
ensure
they
they
have
their
own
doctors.
So
I
cannot
say
much
about
that.
C
G
Definitely
the
parents,
yes,.
C
Right,
okay,
so
that's
those
are
important.
Health
issues
that
relate
directly
to
the
built
environment
that
were
that
we're
talking
about
nicholas
snick.
F
Yes,
sorry
just
wanted
a
quick
follow-up
on
a
minor
point
that
was
made
about
apartments.
I
talked
to
because
I
didn't
grow
up
in
thousand
oaks,
but
I
talked
to
some
lower
income
folks
who
have
grown
up
in
thousand
oaks,
who
I
know-
and
that
was
the
topic
that
they
wanted
to
talk
about-
was
the
lack
of
affordable
housing.
F
They
were
specifically
looking
for
apartments,
and
I
was
like
one
of
them
mentioned
that
it
was
the
point
where
they
could
identify
specific
apartment
complexes
by
name,
because
there
were
so
few
that
they
knew
all
of
them
and
had
looked
at
literally
every
apartment
complex
in
the
entire
city
looking
for
places
to
live
because
they
just
weren't
that
many
options
and
that
that
led
to
the
decision
for
a
lot
of
them
to
actually
leave
thousand
oaks,
because
they
did
not
see
a
place
themselves
here.
C
F
Forward
thousand
people
can
afford,
yes,
that
that
they
did
not
have
established
careers
and
they
didn't
see
a
place
for
themselves
to
even
live
here
and
the
ones
that
did
find
other
alternatives
are
still
cost
burdened,
and
I
have
known
people
who
have
put
off
getting
access
to
health
care
as
a
result
of
having
to
spend
too
much
money
on
rent-
and
you
know-
have
put
off
going
to
hospital
for
a
few
days
because
it
might
go
away.
You
know
I
can't
afford
it.
C
Okay,
you
know
I
want
to
come
back
to
that,
that
broad
comment
in
the
comments
that
we've
sort
of
been
saying
about
the
environment
and
and
maybe
pose
something
challenging,
but
but
before
we
do
that
emily,
you
had
your
hand
up.
B
Yeah
I
wanted
to
tag
on
a
little
bit
to
the
conversation
that
was
happening
right
before
nick
spoke
dealing
with
diabetes
and
although
I
don't
fall
into
the
category
of
those
with,
I
think
anytime
people
say
diabetes.
What
they
mean
is
type
2
diabetes.
I
happen
to
have
one
diabetes,
but
I
wanted
to
comment
as
someone
in
the
I
guess.
B
We
could
call
it
world
of
diabetes
that
access
to
healthy
food
is,
I
think,
really
really
commonly
overlooked,
because
most
of
us
in
this
community
are
able
to
just
kind
of
pop
into
our
cars
and
go
get
food
from
places.
But
I
know
that
for
myself
and
my
own
personal
struggles
with
health
associated
with
diabetes,
food
is
kind
of
a
constant
consideration.
It's
always
on
my
mind
and
if
you
told
me
that
I
had
to
maybe
I
couldn't
drive
to
get
the
food
that
I
wanted.
B
I
would
not
be
able
to
eat
the
same.
So
anyone
that's
in
a
low
come
low-income
situation
that
maybe
walks
to
get
their
food,
which
honestly
walking
to
get
my
food
would
probably
be
better
for
me
in
the
long
run
too,
my
closest
options
would
probably
be
fast
food
and
gas
stations
which
isn't
great,
and
I
think
of
where
a
lot
of
the
one
of
my
best
friends
lives
in
apartments
on
to
and
the
closest
place
for
them
to
watch
the
food
is
whole
foods
and
that
doesn't
necessarily
add
up
either.
C
Yeah
well,
and-
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
a
really-
that's
a
really
good
point
and
sort
of
going
back
to
some
of
the
conversations
that
we've
had
in
the
in
the
past.
You
know
that
this
group,
in
particular
the
the
general
plan
advisory
committee,
when
we
did
our
little
interactive
exercise
about
where
new
uses
should
go
a
lot
of
you
all,
put
kind
of
neighborhood
centers,
where
you
could
walk
and
access
foods
and
also
places
to
hang
out.
So
it's
sort
of
a
common
theme
that
that
I'm
hearing
and
emily.
C
I
think
that
reflects
what
you're
saying.
Are
there
other
comments,
or
can
I
be
controversial
for
a
minute?
C
C
The
city
has
done
an
amazing
job
of
of
creating
this
wonderful
place,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
throughout
a
lot
of
the
process
is
the
desire
for
diversity
in
the
community,
and
I
just
want
to
sort
of
posit
that
the
the
way
the
city
has
evolved
over
time
has
essentially
closed
the
door
to
a
certain
segment
of
the
population
that
could
live
here
and
that
there's
an
opportunity
in
the
general
plan
to
create
a
a
wider
diversity
of
housing
types
which
you
all
have
talked
about.
C
I
think
what
you're
going
to
see
is
a
greater
diversity
in
the
city,
and
I
guess
I
want
to
get
the
reaction
to
that,
which
is
that
you
know
that
has
the
city
in
the
past,
and-
and
you
know,
I
don't
think
it's
it's
been
intentional
necessarily
in
this,
but
you
know
have
their
practices
essentially
segregated
thousand
oaks
from
other
communities
to
not
have
a
certain
segment
of
the
population
in
it,
and
if
so,
is
that
something
that
should
change?
C
H
Well,
I
think,
to
some
extent
you
know:
allison
oaks
has
the
zoning
hasn't
been
very
biased
because
thousands
was
incorporated
about
the
same
time
when
the
civil
rights
act
was
passed
and
you
know
redlining
was
was
more
frowned
upon
and
all
that,
so
that
sort
of
thing
isn't
built
into
the
general
plan
or
anything
like
that.
But
at
the
same
time,
because
you
have
persons
of
color
being
you
know
disproportionately
low
income
or
disproportionately
poor
or
just
disproportionately,
you
know,
their
income
is
not
as
high
as
other
groups.
H
I
think
we're
that
and
the
city
needs
to
work
on,
that
is
to
diversify
the
housing
types.
You
know
it's
all
about
multi-family
housing
now,
that's
where
you're
going
to
get
more
diversity
and
that's
where
you're
going
to
get
more
people
housed
and-
and
we
pretty
much
know
that
these
big
housing
tracks
that
went
up
in
the
60s
and
70s.
We
know
that's
not
going
to
happen
anymore,
but
diversification
of
housing
is
one
thing,
and
the
second
thing
is
it
mostly
is
a
it
mostly
comes
from
people.
H
You
know
you
have
to
foster
a
more
welcoming
environment
for
persons
of
color
because
there's
a
really
bad
reputation.
H
You
know
about
places
like
this
because
I
lived
in
thousands
for
21
years
and
a
lot
of
people
when
I
say
that
I
live
here,
people
who
have
never
been
here.
They
have
a
misconception
that
it's
a
very
racist
place
and
that's
not
true.
You
know
every
place
has
some
bias
to
racist
people,
but
it's
not
like
this
is
somewhere
like
oildale
up
in
kern,
county
or
somewhere
like
that
and
those
misconceptions.
H
Don't
help
the
city
at
all,
and
I
do
have
a
problem
with
that
and
you
know
I
went
back
to
santa
barbara
a
couple
years
ago.
That's
where
I
was
born,
and
you
know
some
of
my
relatives
and
one
of
them
was
surprised
to
see
me
and
she
said.
Oh
I'm
surprised
seeing
her.
She
was
looking
at
me
kind
of
funny.
Eh,
like
you
know
it
was.
It
was
strange.
It
was
this.
I
was
in
this
affluent
place
and
maybe
as
if
I
thought
I
was
better
than
everybody,
I
saw.
H
C
So
you're
so
you're
saying
that
you
you
broke
up
for
a
second
but
you're,
saying
that
a
lot
of
the
the
kind
of
concept
of
racism
that
there's
more
of
a
misconception
that
the
area
is
rather
than
the
fact
that
it
is.
H
Yeah,
I
think
there
is
a
a
real
misconception.
I
think
the
city
has
to
work
on
that,
and
that
comes
a
lot
with
the
residents
stepping
forward.
I
think
we
can't
rely
so
much
on
government
to
do
everything
I
mean
as
residents.
I
think
a
lot
of
us
have
to
step
up
and
say
you
know.
H
Well,
we
have
a
community,
that's
not
as
diverse
as
other
communities,
but
you
know
it's
30
31
about
31
non-white
right
now,
so
that's
moving
towards
being
pretty
diverse,
but
I
think
I
think
what
we
really
need
to
do
is
highlight
that
we
are
a
pretty
fair
community
for
the
most
part
I
mean
like
everywhere
else.
We
have
problems,
I
think,
in
the
general
plan.
H
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
highlight
that
we,
this
city,
specifically
it
just-
has
to
be
laid
out
that
there's
not
going
to
be
any
unconscious
bias
when
it
comes
to
making
policy.
We
we
play
by
the
rules,
we're
fair
to
everybody
in
whether
you're
a
person
of
color
or,
if
you're,
low
income.
You
have
a
place
here.
C
So
that's
a
great,
I
think
one
of
the
questions
was:
what's
what's
your
vision,
what's
the
vision
for
the
city
and
something
to
communicate,
and
I
think
that's
a
really
good
thing
to
to
communicate
there
all
right
nick,
we
haven't
heard
from
you
yet.
I
So
I
have
okay,
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
coming,
I
thought
in
some
ways
one
of
the
things
that
led
thousand
oaks
to
kind
of
meet
the
general
plan
as
and
get
to
this
point
where
we
are
was
sort
of
knowing
the
history
of
the
sort
of
rapid
growth
of
southern
california
in
general,
and
so
in
the
60s
and
70s
and
80s
and
90s,
and
the
2000s
one
of
the
one
of
the
you
know.
The
main
dynamic
politically
was
is
the
rate
of
development
and
growth
within
the
city
too
fast.
I
So
you
know
eventually
that,
like
that,
that
governed
all
the
political
dynamics
within
the
city
over
those
decades
and
probably
as
a
result
of
that
it
led
to
development
and
changes
in
the
general
plan
that
led
to
being
a
bit
more
over
indexed,
single-family
housing
and
less
so
with
apartments,
because
the
the
nature
of
the
developments
that
were
coming
in
four
apartments
were
to
be
very
dense
and-
and
you
know
that
sort
of
stuff,
so
I
think
that
the
public
in
general
was
a
little
bit
less
open
and
receptive
to
that
which
has
now
led
to
the
build
out
of
we're,
probably
a
little
bit
more
over
indexed
with
single
family
homes.
I
So
I
think
in
general,
there's
probably
a
you
know,
an
appreciation
for
looking
at
the
opportunities
for
where
multi-family
and
apartment
complexes
could
modify
that
mix
a
little
bit.
I
think
the
care
we'd
want
to
make
sure
of
is
to
address
those
in
the
changes
of
where
the
right
places
in
the
city
are
and
not
for
lack
of
a
better
term
break.
I
What
has
really
been
you
know
successful
in
the
city
of
you
know
the
the
nature
of
being
able
to
not
develop
on
the
rich
lines
and
being
able
to
see
you
know
all
the
the
natural
beauty
around
the
city,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
can
do.
We
can
address
those
items
for
more
affordable
housing
mixes,
yet
still
honor.
What's
really
worked
for
us
over
the
past
50
years.
C
Yeah
and
again,
I
think,
that's
another
another
great
sort
of
goal
that
we've
talked
about
for
the
as
sort
of
a
frame
for
the
entire
plan
itself
of
don't
don't
don't,
don't
fix
what
ain't
broke
and
and
just
address
the
problems
that
and
the
the
ideas
that
you
want.
Okay,.
D
D
I
just
want
to
make
one
comment
as
well.
You
know
what
you
propose,
there's
an
alternative
to
your
proposal
that
you
introduce
this
whole
conversation
with
say,
for
example,
I
know
it's
difficult
brings
up
in
economic
hard
times,
but
let's
just
say
that
the
corporations
that
are
here
the
high
tech
corporations-
and
I
think,
a
lot
of
this
started
anyway
during
the
defense
industry
during
the
cold
war
years.
Sort
of
you
know
help
develop
this
whole
area,
but,
let's
just
say
some
corporation
they're,
paying
a
decent
salary.
D
So
the
people
who
can
keep
this
level
of
housing
high
if
they
hired
more
minorities
at
those
high
levels
of
salaries
or
even
if
the
people
who
are
hiring
people
in
the
area
would
pay
more.
Then
you
wouldn't
have
to
think
about
the
decreasing
the
cost
of
housing,
because
people
making
enough
money
to
actually
afford
these
houses.
C
C
As
you
probably
know,
at
clu
of
of
young
professors
coming
in
and
their
ability,
you
know,
regardless
of
of
you,
know,
race
or
ethnicity,
to
be
able
to
come
in
and
actually
afford
to
live
in
the
city.
D
And
we
lost
a
few
of
them.
We've
lost
a
few
good
ones,
oh
yeah,
but
if
you
know,
if
those
corporations,
you
know
had
a
good
minority
hiring
program,
they
would
certainly
diversify
the
city.
D
C
Okay,
great
nicky
would
your
hand
up
next.
F
Speaking
with
other
millennials,
mostly
younger
millennials,
who
have
grown
up
around
here,
there
is
the
perception
I
can't
speak
to
how
accurate
it
is
that
the
housing
policy
in
the
city
and
to
a
lesser
extent,
at
the
state
level
until
recently,
mostly
exists
to
favor
people
of
their
parents,
generation
or
older
people
who
bought
property
here
20
plus
years
ago,
at
the
expense
of
anyone
looking
to
get
new
housing
now
and
then.
F
Additionally,
on
the
racism
side,
there
is
the
perception
among
the
people
who
went
to
high
school
around
here
that
the
law
enforcement
is
racist
and
overly
aggressive
and
hostile
to
both
younger
folks
and
especially
younger
people
of
color.
C
Yeah,
that's
that's
interesting,
I
think
one
of
our
future
meetings.
I
think
it's
in
september,
if
I
remember
correctly,
although
I'm
melissa
can
correct
me,
as
she
always
does,
with
things
that
we
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
community
safety,
more
broadly,
which
which
relates
to
the
demonstrations,
and
so
I
think
we
can.
We
definitely
want
to
pick
up
that
thread
about
you,
know
perception
or
feelings
of
safety,
because
sometimes
the
perception
is
as
as
impactful
as
the
the
thing
itself.
C
Okay,
alicia.
You
want
to
speak
again.
G
Yeah,
yes,
one
of
my
channel,
I
recommend,
like
the
chase
mentioned,
is
I
do
believe
that
that's
not
is
very
open
and
and
maybe
in
the
people
that
live
here.
I
have
never
seen
any
issue
problem,
any
racist
problem
against
anybody
and
I
have
never
hear
any
bad
comment
from
our
from
our
population.
G
C
That's
wonderful,
that's
great,
to
hear
and
thank
you
for
for
bringing
that
up,
so
I
want
to
maybe
shift
a
little
bit
and
think
about
it,
just
maybe
instead
of
environmental
justice,
but
think
a
little
bit
more
broadly
about
a
healthy
community
and
what
that
means,
and
a
small
subset
of
you
have
been
speaking
so
far.
But
maybe
I'd
like
to
sort
of
try
and
get
a
broader
group
here
to
participate
when,
when
you
think
about
just
broadly
a
healthy
community,
regardless
of
of
you
know
of
disparities
or
equity.
C
C
Anyone
and
we've
talked
about
housing.
We've
talked
about
transportation,
we've
talked
about
access
to
healthy
foods.
What
else
or
do
you
and
you
want
to
kind
of
dive
deeper
in
any
of
those.
I
Is
why
I'm
raising
my
hand,
so
it
it
seems
to
me
in
in
any
one
of
these
things,
so
the
environmental
justice
element
is
looks
like
it's
a
brand
new
thing.
It's
something
that
the
state
says
it's
important
for
you
to
take
consideration
in
the
development
of
your
city
and
for
some
of
these
disadvantaged
communities.
I
It
seems
like
access
to
important
elements
of
living
seem
to
be
the
biggest
things
we
want
to
make
sure
so,
access
to
information
people
should
be
able
to
have
you
know,
maybe
you
know,
is
it
free,
wi-fi
or,
or
you
know,
some
manner
of
access
to
broadband
so
that
they're
not
sitting
behind
you?
You
know
the
rest
of
the
community
on
their
access
to
electronic
information
access
to
education.
I
Can
they
get
to
and
from
the
schools
within
the
community
without
being
overly
burdened.
Can
they
get
access
to
again
healthy
foods
and
access
to
the
other
aspects
of
retail
and
community
parks?
The
open
space
can
they
get
to
the
trail
systems
if
they
want
to
get
to
the
outskirts
and
and
be
able
to
take
a
hike
like
everyone
else
can
so
identifying
those
elements
of
of
access
to
important,
healthy
city.
Civic
living,
I
think,
are
the
the
important
elements
that
I
can
think
of,
and
that
seems
to
be.
I
You
know
one
of
the
the
things
that
would
be
important
to
list
out
in
that
element.
I
think
one
one
question,
maybe
for
you
in
my
experience,
review
the
general
plan
and
all
of
its
elements
usually
get
kind
of
focused
on
a
particular
project
and
so
a
project.
May
you
know
we
need
to
judge
it
whether
it's
consistent
with
the
general
plan,
but
some
of
these
access
elements
are
more
sort
of
public
programs
that
are
seen
that
the
city
should
invest
in
to
ensure
these
access
elements
are
being.
I
C
Yeah,
so
there
is
that's
a
good,
it's
a
really
good
question,
so
you
know,
interestingly,
the
the
this
concept
of
an
environmental
justice
element
that
the
requirement
for
environmental
justice
element
is
recent.
What
was
happening
way
before
then,
is
healthy
communities
elements,
and
so
that's
why
I
sort
of
broadened
the
question
of
what
is
what
is
a
healthy
community,
because
you
know,
ultimately,
the
the
environmental
justice
element
is
trying
to
make
sure
that
everybody
has
access
to
a
healthy
community,
but
I
think
what
it
what
it
really.
C
What
we
really
want
to
think
about
as
well
is
what
is
a
healthy
community,
and
what
does
that
mean?
And
so
there
are
lots
of
examples
of
communities
that
have
created
just
healthy
communities
elements
and
they
address
disparities
within
that.
But
they
deal
with
topics,
and
you
mentioned
a
lot
of
them.
A
lot
of
it
is
access
and
there
is
a
combination
of
physical
access
of
being
able
to
get
there,
but
also
financial
access
to
it.
C
And
so,
when
you
think
about
like
healthcare,
it's
actually
you
know
not
just
can
you
walk
to
a
hospital,
because
when
I
broke
my
leg,
I
didn't
want
to
walk
to
the
hospital
right.
I
didn't
care.
I
just
wanted
to
be
relatively
close.
So,
but
it's
really
do
you
have
access
to
the
health
insurance
so
that
you
can
get
the
health,
as
nick
had
mentioned?
There's
healthy
foods,
walkability
and
and
safety
bike
ability
living
and
not
putting
you
know,
homes
right
next
to
freeways
just
because
of
the
air
pollution.
C
So
those
are
a
lot
of
the
topics
that
have
really
been
addressed
and
then,
of
course,
communities
deal
with
specific
issues
that
they
are
that
are
have
big
environmental
justice
and
environmental
health
impacts.
So
you
know
los
angeles
deals
with
the
port,
because
that's
a
huge
environmental
issue
oakland
is
dealing
with
the
same
thing.
San
francisco,
so
there's
a
lot
of
issues
related
to
kind
of
specific
topics
within
that
community.
Some
areas
that
have
a
lot
of
industrial,
it's
a
what's
the
the
the
interface
between
residential
and
industrial
and
fresno's.
C
Dealing
with
that
a
lot
again,
that's
not
as
much
of
an
issue
here
it
is
in
other
parts
of
the
county,
but
it's
not
as
much
of
an
issue.
I
And
one
just
quick
follow-up,
I
do
know
from
dr
freeland's
presentation
he
sort
of
mentioned
about
the
cumulative
effects
of
certain
decisions
that
get
made,
and
I
know
at
least
from
the
sequa
analysis
a
lot
of
times
when
it
comes
to
air
pollution
and
traffic,
and
things
like
that
that
that
does
get
weighed.
I
do
remember
that,
but
there
are
some
of
these
elements
that
the
environmental
justice
element
would
address
that
are
a
little
bit
beyond
that
that
that
are
of
interest.
I
know
we
dealt
with
that
in
the
past,
but
it
seems
yeah.
C
Yeah
I
mean
sequa
definitely
addresses
that,
and-
and
I
just
want
to
sort
of
clarify
a
point
here
which
is
you
know,
I
think
in
sort
of
preliminary
conversations
we
don't
want.
C
We
we're
not
thinking
necessarily
there's
going
to
be
an
environmental
justice
element,
but
we're
going
to
take
these
topics
we're
going
to
spread
them
out
throughout
the
elements
because
it
it
and
and
think
about
about
health
and
equity,
as
these
broad
overarching
concepts
which
you
all
have
talked
about
either
implicitly
or
explicitly
from
day
one
when
we've
met
of
doing
this,
and
so
they
sort
of
it's
it's
a
framing
issue
here
in
a
framing
topic.
A
Well,
so
I
just
I
was
circle
back.
You
know
a
little
bit
on
the
on
the
equity
piece.
You
know
we
we
talk
about
race
and
ethnicity,
ethnicity,
but
you
know,
I
think
another
there
has
to
be
in
the
conversation
or
people
with
disabilities.
A
So
I
know
we
have
the
americans
with
disabilities
act
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
those
pieces
that
go
into
construction,
and
you
know
the
things
that
we
do,
but
I
think
you
know
we
can
look
at
that
as
a
minimum
standard.
Those
are
minimum
things
that
we
should
be
doing
so
the
I
guess,
the
the
question
or
the
the
conversation
will
be.
A
What
else
can
we
do
to
promote
that
accessibility
for
for
those
with
disabilities
to
be
able
to
live
in
our
community
safely
and
have
an
environment
where,
where
you
know
everyone
can
can
go
exist
and
has
the
same
same
level
of
accessibility
to
all
the
great
things
that
we
have
in
the
community.
C
A
You
know,
I
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
broader
discussion.
There
there's
there's
a
lot
of
different
different
things.
You
know
there,
people
with
disabilities
aren't
just
you
know
one.
It's
not
one.
Particular
disability
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
that
I
think
have
to
be
in
the
conversation
you
know
from
how
we
we
construct
multi-story
units
to
how
many
we
construct
on
you
know
single-story
units.
So
you
know
the
those
numbers
I
think
have
have
an
impact.
So
that's
just
one
thing
that
I
could
think
of
right
now.
A
I
know
we
do
the
the
curb
cuts
for
wheelchair
accessibility
and
such
on
the
on
the
streets,
but
I
don't
I
don't
know.
I
think
it
would
just
involve
a
deeper
conversation
as
to
you
know,
are
we
really
doing
these
things
as
a
minimum
and
are
we
doing
them
because
they're
required
by
by
law,
or
are
we
really
doing
them
for
accessibility.
C
H
Yeah
on
the
point
of
access,
you
know
when
it
comes
to
accessing
healthy
food.
Looking
at
the
map
it,
it
did
show
areas
that
were
disadvantaged,
but
also
you.
I
saw
some
areas
that,
were
you
know,
labeled
disadvantaged,
that
really
aren't
disadvantaged
because
of
access
to
a
car.
You
know
car
ownership
and
all
of
that
in
having
done
some
work
on
the
transportation
committee
and
some
workshops
with
thousand
oaks
transit.
H
One
of
the
things
that
they
take
into
account
is
who
owns
a
car
or
has
access
to
a
car,
because
when
you
break
it
down,
you
know
a
lot
of
that
is
going
to
flip
the
other
way.
Like
you
see,
people
living
like
near
the
boulevard
adjacent
to
the
boulevard,
their
access
looks
better.
You
have
people
living
way
out.
North
ranch,
their
access
looks
really
bad,
but
if
you
bring
in
car
ownership
or
car
accidents,
that's
going
to
flip
the
other
way.
So
that's
something
that
I
think
we
really
need
to
look
at.
H
C
Yeah
and
the
the
car
ownership
also
relates
to
the
housing
to
the
housing
cost
burden,
there's
actually
a
metric
on
housing
and
transportation
burden
because
owning
a
car
is,
is
so
expensive
to
do
that
it
actually
for
for
people
on
limited
income.
Sometimes
you
have
to
make
the
choice
of
owning
a
car
and
having
that
access
or
having
access
to
healthy
foods
or
after-school
programs
for
kids
or
other
things.
C
Okay,
other
comments,
vision
for
a
healthy
community,
dr
freeland.
What
is
your?
What
kind
of
advice
could
you
give
while
other
people
are
thinking?
What
kind
of
advice
could
you
give
this
group
in
terms
of
things
to
think
about
moving
forward
for
health
and
overall
health,
and
then
in
particularly
equity
and
environmental
justice,
that
you
know
we
as
a
group
should
think
about
for
the
general
plan.
D
Thanks
yeah
I'll
think
about
this
open
space
kind
of
concept.
I
know
there's
probably
some
pressure.
You
know
it
may
build
some
apartment
complexes
and
more
complexes
than
you
just
live
in,
but
I
believe
that
open
space
area
in
just
about
every
neighborhood
is
probably
very
important
to
help,
because
you
know
you
can
walk
in
these
areas
and
there's
clean
and
open
air
and
you
start
to
feel
better.
D
If
you
are
stressed,
for
example,
you
know
you
feel
better
when
you
walk
in
the
car,
but
the
sidewalks
are
nice,
clean
and
accessible?
Those
are
nice.
You
know
the
neighborhood
is
well
lit
and
sort
of
feel
safe
to
individuals
to
walk
around.
I
think
that's
a
also
important
for
a
healthy
living
environment
as
well
and
and
outside
of
you
know,
breathing
you
know
with
clean
air.
You
know
I
would
say
if
you
build
bicycle
paths,
maybe
people
more
people
think
about
riding
a
bicycle.
D
Well,
certainly
that
we
found
out
during
this
that
they're
the
stages
of
this
event
when
everybody
had
to
stay
home
and
people
how
clean
hair
got.
You
know
all
of
a
sudden.
You
know
wow,
you
know
so
so
I
think,
if
some
kind
of
way
to
do
that
and
then
finally,
you
know
if
people
just
start
those
who
can't
afford
to
start
buying
a
safer
things.
D
For
instance,
you
know,
go
electric
or
solar,
et
cetera,
and
so
on
you
know
those
kind
of
things
sort
of
help
take
care
of
some
of
the
fossil
fuels.
You
know
that
caused
our
problems.
G
Thank
you.
So
my
vision
is
to
work
as
a
community.
You
know
the
world
community
has
has
been
in
our
meetings
since
the
very
beginning,
and
I
think
we
are
thankful
for
that,
and
we
want
to
continue
with
that
vision
so,
for
example,
to
work
together
as
a
community
like
if
one
organization
provides
one
thing
and
then
a
different
organization
provides
one
thing
and
the
city
supports
them.
So
you
know
it's
like
it's
like
a
like
a
network
of
supported
services.
G
So
that's
that's
kind
of
my
one
of
my
visions
to
to
have
that.
Keep
the
idea
of
community
work
together
and
yeah.
Just
that's
pretty
much.
Oh
another
thing
I
had
in
mind
was
again:
I'm
thankful
that
you
are
looking
into
the
all
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
as
of
education,
what
are
the
red
areas
that
you
have
in
your
map?
I
recognize
that
area.
G
There
is
no
open
space,
for
example.
Right,
but
again
is
the
idea
of
having
access
to
the
bus
or
to
have
all
buses
transportation,
but
another
thing
that
I
think
is
some
of
the
students.
Speaking
of
some
areas
don't
make.
They
may
not
have
access
to
internet
because
maybe
they
can
afford
it.
So
I
don't
know-
and
I
know
public
libraries
have
free
wi-fi,
but
if
the
student
cannot
get
to
the
library,
then
that's
another
issue,
so
I
don't
know
how.
G
If
the
city
of
that
could
be
taken
into
consideration
at
one
point,
you
know
providing
wi-fi
again
taking
off
in
equity.
You
know
to
those
students
and
that's
just
another
day
that
came
to
my
mind.
Thank
you.
C
Those
are
great
yeah.
Thank
you
any
other
comments.
Some
of
you
haven't
spoken.
I
don't
want
to
call
you
all
out,
but
does
anyone
want
to
contribute
anything
for
tonight?
That
is
your
vision
of
a
healthy
community.
Victor
again.
A
Just
yeah
to
piggyback
on
on
the
comments
we
just
heard.
I
I
think
the
internet
accessibility
is
really
an
important
factor,
we're
seeing
that
with
schools
being
closed.
It's
it's
really
a
major
challenge
for
for
a
lot
of
families
to
have
that
internet
access,
and
not
just
that.
A
If
we
talk
about
you
know
as
a
whole
as
a
community,
I
think
there
are
to
for
if
we
make
an
effort
to
be
a
wired
community,
whereas
there's
accessibility
throughout
the
entire
city,
I
think
that's
something
that
really
we
should
strive
for,
because
internet
use
is
now
it's
it's.
It's
as
important
as
utility
is
electricity,
so
I
I
did
something
that
we
really
have
to
put
on
the
forefront
where
we're
looking
at
any
developments.
A
There
has
to
be
some
of
the
some
requirements
in
there
to
to
put
the
accessibility
for
outdoor
wi-fi
that
that
you
know
people
can
can
use
and
enjoy
regardless
of
of
level
of
income
or
anything
else.
C
C
It
became
obvious
the
sort
of
the
the
disparities
overall
about
internet
and
access
to
internet
and
how
that
led
to
education-
and
I
know
that
the
school
district
that
I'm
in
essentially
stopped
education
until
everyone
could
have
access
to
internet
and
technology,
and
so
it
just
sort
of
exposed
this
this
you
know
gaping
hole
and
what
we
as
we
as
a
society
have
and
what
everyone
has
access
to.
C
And
so
I
think
that's
a
really
important
equity
issue,
and
I
think
you
know
again
it
felt
like
it
felt
like
covet
kind
of
ripped,
the
band-aid
off
of
some
of
these
things.
You
know
to
use
a
health
medical
term
here,
but
you
know
rip
rip
the
band-aid
off
of
this
and
expose
this
as
a
as
a
real
challenge
for
many
many
communities,
probably
less.
So
that
was
an
oaks,
but
in
many
communities
across
the
state.
A
For
sure,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
have
taken
it
for
granted
how
easy
is
accessible
for
some
people,
but
now
you
know
that
the
things
have
changed
and
and
the
environment
that
we're
in
today
is
really
exposing
the
the
challenge
that
some
people
have
that
other
people
really
take
for
granted.
So
whatever
we
could
do
in
that
regard,
that
that
can
enhance
the
the
quality
of
life
in
the
city.
For
everybody,
I
think,
is
something
that
we
should
strive
for.
A
C
F
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate
dr
freeland
and
many
of
the
other
speakers
for
bringing
up
the
cumulative
effects
of
all
of
these
other
factors,
because
one
of
the
things
I
find
frustrating
many
conversations
about
equity
and
justice
is
how
much
people
tend
to
focus
on
a
single
barrier,
to
accessing
a
service
or
to
good
health,
and
argue
that
oh
well,
this
one
barrier
by
itself
is
not
enough
to
really
bar
someone
from
getting
what
they
need
and
it's
I
really
like
hearing
people
acknowledging
that
it's
not
just
about
people,
don't
have
transportation,
but
people
don't
have
transportation
and
who
are
who
have
a
movement
disability,
it's
about
people
who
don't
have
access
to
ecl
food
and
who
have
diabetes
and
how
all
these
factors
can
combine
together.
F
And
I
appreciate
all
the
work
you.
You
have
already
done
to
find
areas
where
there
are
multiple
factors
impacting
people,
and
I
would
just
think
we
need
to
continue
that
sort
of
perspective
going
forward
about
how
looking
at
how
these
things
enter
mesh
and
refusing
to
look
at
just
one
item
in
isolation
and
saying
we
fixed
it.
It's
good
and
instead
look
at
where
the
effects
can
compound
upon
each
other.
C
Great,
thank
you.
It's
actually
probably
good
as
as
good
a
closing
as
I
could
have
ever
done,
and
so
that
was
wonderful.
I
think.
Maybe
we
should
take
our
last
time
and
go
to
public
comment.
B
C
B
I
have
one
comment
from
the
public
submitted
through
poll
everywhere.
Is
that
okay
yeah,
please?
Okay?
So
regarding
questions
or
comments
for
the
presentation,
this
person
submitted
from
the
information
presented,
it
seems
like
traffic
and
air
quality
are
the
main
issues
that
affect
our
city.
Most.
B
That's
one
comment:
we've
gotten
so
far,
just
a
reminder
for
folks
who
are
watching
that
you
can
submit
comments
after
our
presentation
has
ended
and
we
will
get
those
and
take
them
into
consideration
when
we're
we're
doing
our
notes
for
the
meeting.
C
Yeah-
and
I
I
think
that
is
you
know-
you
know
across
the
city
that
it
was
really
traffic
and
air
quality.
The
the
city
is
doesn't
do
as
well
as
other
areas
in
terms
of
ozone
pollution,
and
so
that
actually
does
have
an
impact,
in
particular
matter.
C
In
certain
parts
of
the
city,
there
is
also
kind
of
across
the
city
impaired
water
bodies,
which
is
a
metric
of
sort
of
water
quality
where
the
city
overall
is
not
is
not
doing
well,
but
I
think
that
the
impacts
are
more
specifically
felt
with
the
the
transportation
and
the
air
quality,
so
I
think
the
commenter
is
spot
on
with
that.
With
that
comment,
okay,
public
comments,
michael,
is
this:
you.
A
Yes,
we
do
have
a
few
members
of
the
public
who
have
requested
to
speak
this
evening,
the
first
one
edward
and
margaret
casaba,
but
I
do
not
see
them
on
the
list.
Actually,
let
me
turn
on
so
that
people
can
raise
their
hands.
A
I
see
a
couple
of
call-in
people
is
edward
and
margaret
cassava,
one
of
the
call-in
people.
It
doesn't
look
like
it.
Okay,
we'll
go
to
the
next
one,
and
I'm
just
taking
these
in
the
order
that
people
registered
the
next
speaker,
kurt
souder,.
A
I
do
not
see
him
on
the
list.
Either
rose
witt,
who
has
her
hand
up,
okay,
go
ahead,
rose.
C
E
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that,
as
a
city
within
ventric
county,
our
county's
average
temperature
since
pre-industrial
times
has
increased
4.7
degrees
fahrenheit,
which
ranks
as
the
fastest
warming
county
in
the
continental
united
states.
E
This
is
important
not
only
from
the
aspect
of
increased
wildfire
risk,
which
is
already
substantial
in
thousand
oaks,
as
we've
seen
over
the
last
three
or
four
years,
but
it's
also
a
health
and
environmental
justice
issue,
because
extreme
extreme
heat
is
actually
identified
as
the
most
deadly
of
natural
disasters,
and
it
will
only
continue
to
worsen
unless
our
general
plan
includes
ambitious
policies
to
mitigate
and
build
resilience
to
climate
change.
E
E
And,
lastly,
I
would
suggest
that
we
have
some
climate
expertise
in
our
climate
plan,
both
on
the
community
community
advisory
committee
and
in
the
plan
itself,
so
that
we
could
come
up
with
ideas
beyond
the
scope
of
just
what
I
could
come
up
myself.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
rose.
I
just
wanna.
Before
we
jump
on
to
the
go
on
to
the
next
speaker,
we
are
gonna,
have
a
meeting
melissa.
You
can
tell
me
when
it
is
again.
I've
forgotten
whether
it's
the
next
meeting
or
the
meeting
after
that,
where
we
are
gonna
focus
on
on
climate
change,
sustainability
and
resilience,
and
we
will
address
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
these
ideas
and
more
because
there
certainly
are
more
topics
that
we
can
address,
and
our
team
does
actually
have
a
lot
of
expertise.
C
On
climate
we've
been
trying
to
address
some
of
that
through
land
use
and
transportation
decisions,
which
is
a
major
impact
on
climate,
but
also
we're
going
to
be
getting
into
these
other
topics
as
well.
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up
and
tying
it
to
the
equity
issue
as
well.
B
A
Okay,
the
the
next
speaker
is
kyle
springer,
but
I
am
not
seeing
him
on
our
list
next
speaker,
daniel
twett,
also
not
seeing
his
name
on
the
list.
Next
is
silvana
zuka.
B
B
Okay,
as
as
chase
said,
to
help
with
inequalities,
I
think
we
do
need
multi-family
housing
but
affordable,
multi-family
housing,
the
stuff
we're
seeing
go
up
right
now
is
not
affordable
at
all
and
to
address
so
to
address
the
the
we
need
to
address
the
low
low
income
housing
problem
and
that
and
if
we
don't
make
a
massive
like
the
buildings
that
are
going
up
now,
then
we
won't
also
impact
air
quality
and
have
a
traffic
burden.
F
A
You,
the
last
person
who
had
requested
to
speak,
was
lisa
ferch.
I
do
not
see
her
on
the
list
either,
so
I
will
ask
if
there's
anyone
else
attending
who
wanted
to
speak?
If
you
would
raise
your
hand
and
then
we
can
call
on
you.
A
Yeah,
sorry,
okay,
no
problem,
okay,
looks
like
no
one
else
is
raising
their
hands,
so
it
looks
like
that's
all
the
public
comment
that
we
have
this
evening.
C
Okay,
I
want
to
just
quickly
share
my
screen
here
and
again
and
just
show
you
the
upcoming
gpac
meetings
on
august
20th
is
safety
and
resilience.
C
That's
going
to
be
addressing
important
topics
that
have
also
come
up
tonight
about
fire
hazards,
earthquake
hazards,
public
safety
and
policing,
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
dive
into
that
topic
on
august
20th
september
24th
is
going
to
be
parks,
open
space
and
sustainability.
C
Again,
another
topic
that
came
up
quite
a
bit
this
evening,
particularly
around
access
and
health
october
22nd,
is
going
to
be
on
arts
and
culture
and
diving
into
the
building
off
of
the
civic
arts
plaza
and
all
the
other
arts
and
cultural
activities
that
are
going
on
in
the
city
and
then
in
early
december,
we're
going
to
circle
back
to
the
land
use
conversation
after
we've
talked
about
these
other
topics
and
and
a
lot
of
the
other
topics,
as
you
are
hearing
all
relate
to
sort
of
land,
use
and
transportation,
alternatives
and
concepts,
and
so
we're
going
to
sort
of
pull
all
of
that
together,
as
we
present
alternatives
that
you
all
have
helped
to
create
with
that
we're
sort
of
we're
at
the
end
of
our
meeting
here,
I'm
gonna,
dr
freeland,
I'm
gonna.
C
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening.
I
thought
your
perspective
was
incredibly
helpful.
We
really
appreciate
your
time
and
your
guidance
with
this,
and
we
may.
We
may
be
turning
to
you
again
for
for
sage
advice
on
this
topic
and
it's
I
think,
it's
great
to
know
and
that
there's
there
are
resources
like
dr
freeland
who
are
living
or
working
in
the
community
who
can
really
help
us
think
through
these.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
participating
tonight.
C
I
know
it
was
a.
It
was
a
tough
topic.
It's
a
little
bit
hard
to
sort
of
get
your
head
around
some
of
these
issues
and
ideas,
but
I
think
that
we
really
did
cover
a
lot
of
ground
and
I
think
we
have
a
great
starting
point
for
developing
goals
and
policies
for
the
general
plan,
which
was
the
point
of
what
we
did.
C
What
we
wanted
to
talk
about
this
evening
so
again,
thank
you
and
unless
there's
any
further
comments,
we
will
see
you
all
in
a
month
and
we
I'm
sure,
all
look
forward
to
the
day
where
we
can
get
back
together
in
a
room
without
face
masks
and
enjoy
each
other's
company.