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B
C
To
roll
okay
good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
another
gpac
meeting.
I'm
matt
ramey
with
raymeed
associates
we're
glad
that
all
of
you
could
join
us
this
evening.
Apologies
for
the
debate
happening
at
the
exact
same
time
for
conflicting
with
this.
We
we
tried
to
talk
to
fox
to
change
it,
but
they
refused.
C
They
said
something
about
talking
to
nbc,
about
a
conflicting
thing.
I
wasn't
quite
sure
I
understood
that,
but
tonight
we
continue
in
our
series
of
topical
meetings
and
tonight's
conversation
is
going
to
be
on
arts
and
culture,
so
sadly,
we're
still
not
able
to
make
it
in
the
and
be
together
in
the
beautiful
civic
arts
plaza
complex,
but
hopefully
we
will
soon,
but
we
we
can
be
together
on
zoom
and-
and
I
think
these
have
gone
as
well
as
can
be
expected.
C
So
thank
you
all
for
your
participation
in
this
our
agenda.
Tonight
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
melissa.
Our
agenda
tonight
follows
essentially
a
similar
flow
of
past
meetings.
We
are
going
to
do
a
presentation
and
that's
going
to
be
followed
by
small
group
discussions
and
then
a
report
back
at
the
very
end
before
we
move
into
introductions
melissa,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
to
go
through
logistics
and
and
the
zoom
instructions.
B
Yeah
thanks
matt
hi
everyone
thanks
for
joining
us
tonight.
My
name
is
melissa.
Stark.
I
work
with
matt
at
raymond
associates
just
a
few
refreshers
for
folks
who
aren't
familiar
or
haven't
done
a
lot
of
zoom
meetings
here
on
the
bottom,
we
have
highlighted
how
you're
going
to
join
your
audio,
mute
and
unmute
yourself.
It's
the
farthest
circle
to
your
left
and
then
one
end
is
your
video.
You
can
turn
that
on
or
off
we'd
love.
If,
when
you're
speaking,
you
can
turn
your
video
on.
B
If
you
have
a
question,
we'd
love
for
you
to
use
the
raised
hand
feature
you
can
do
that
by
clicking
the
participants
button,
which
is
highlighted
in
the
center
of
the
screen,
which
will
bring
you
to
the
tab.
That's
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen
and
you
can
click
the
blue
raise
hand
button
that
will
notify
everyone
that
you'd
like
to
speak
and
please
keep
yourself
needed
until
we
call
on
you
just
to
stay
nice
and
organized
for
folks
who
are
watching
us
on
youtube
or
at
home,
we're
so
glad
you're.
Here.
B
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
We
have
a
bunch
of
different
ways
for
you
to
be
involved
and
participate
in
this
meeting
members
of
the
public
who
are
joining
on
hearing
zoom
as
well.
We're
really
happy
that
you're
here
there's
a
variety
of
ways
that
you
can
provide
your
feedback
in
the
meeting
and
from
home.
Everything
is
linked
on
the
project
website,
which
is
highlighted
here.
It's
t
oaks2045.org.
B
C
You
thank
you,
melissa,
so
we're
going
to
jump
into
the
presentation
in
just
a
minute,
but
I'd
like
to
do
just
a
couple
of
quick
introductions.
First,
we
have
david
plettner,
saunders
and
linda
flynn
with
cpg
cultural
planning
group.
They
are
on
our
consultant
team
and
are
our
arts
and
culture
experts
and
they're
going
to
be
leading
the
presentation
tonight.
D
We
start
from
the
perspective
that
thousand
oaks
is
an
arts
place
as
a
city
and
as
an
and
as
a
community.
You
value
the
arts
and
you've
invested
in
it
in
your
cultural
life
for
a
long
time.
So,
let's
set
the
stage
for
our
policy
discussion
tonight
with
a
little
bit
of
background
and
context
next
slide,
please!
D
So!
Oh
no!
Sorry
you
you
are,
you
were
already
on
the
slide.
I
needed
thanks.
So
several
things.
What
do
we
mean
by
arts
and
culture
by
that
term?
What
state
policies
apply
to
the
arts
and
what
are
thousand
oaks
relevant
goals,
we'll
also
touch
on
stakeholder
engagement
linda
and
I
conducted
for
the
existing
conditions
report
and
the
overall
opportunity
that's
presented
by
this
arts
and
cultural
element
of
the
general
plan.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
In
the
same
vein,
other
state
policies
apply
to
the
arts,
such
as
employment
regulations
and
taxes.
For
example,
the
california
department
of
education
has
curriculum
mandates
for
the
visual
and
performing
arts
in
public
schools
and,
of
course,
health
and
safety
regulations
apply
to
public
venues
such
as
the
civic
arts.
Plaza
next
slide
please.
D
D
Gold
g
reaffirms
the
city's
long-standing
practice
of
collaborating
with
other
community
agencies
like
the
parks
district,
california,
lutheran
university
and
the
kaneho
valley.
Unified
school
district
goal.
H
is
about
economic
development
and
aims
to
maintain
the
city's
employment
base,
emphasizing
small
businesses
and
high-tech
biomedical
jobs,
culturally
vibrant
community,
one
that
includes
the
right
mix
of
arts
and
culture
is
one
factor
that
makes
a
place
attractive
to
companies
and
workers.
D
D
C
Actually,
it's
it's
to
me
thanks,
okay,
so
I
am
going
to
launch
the
poll
here.
You'll
see
it
you'll
see
it
on
your
screen.
The
the
question
is
thinking
pre-covered
again,
pre-covet
is
important
here
because
we
all
know
the
world
has
changed.
How
would
you
describe
your
participation
in
arts
and
cultural
activities?
Frequent
occasional
and
frequent
is
more
than
12
times
per
year,
occasional
about
six
to
12
times
per
year,
once
in
a
while
less
than
six
times
per
year,
and
then
not
at
all.
B
C
Okay,
I
am
going
to
end
the
poll
here
and
the
the
result.
Most
people,
not
surprisingly
with
this
crowd,
attended
or
participated
in
arts
and
cultural
activities
12
or
more
times
per
year,
and
then
that
was
42,
so
so
good
number
two
out
of
every
five
and
then
the
rest
were
occasional
and
only
one
was
not
at
all.
So
again,
it's
we
are.
We
are
a
pretty
arts
and
culture
heavy
group
here
this
evening.
Okay,
david.
D
Great,
so
our
existing
conditions
report
on
which
this
presentation
is
based-
this
was
developed
before
the
start
of
covet
night
of
the
covet
19
pandemic.
I
mentioned
we
did
the
interviews
and
meetings
mostly
last
fall
october
november
december,
and
we
would
normally
be
doing
this
presentation
with
you
in
person,
but
we
wanted
to
touch
on
the
impacts
on
the
arts
community
and
some
of
the
responses.
D
D
As
you
probably
know
now,
I
am
still
seeing
the
poll
on
my
screen
all
right.
As
you
probably
know,
there's
been
widespread
shock
and
concern
in
the
arts.
Community,
artists
and
arts
organizations,
like
other
workers
and
businesses,
are
concerned
about
their
livelihoods,
about
not
being
able
to
perform
or
hold
exhibits
in
in
your
usual
ways
about
financial
survival
and
navigating
the
many
and
changing
challenges
of
social
distancing.
D
Now,
in
response,
some
arts
funders
around
the
country,
the
getty
trust
the
national
endowment
for
the
arts,
the
city
of
los
angeles,
just
to
name
a
few
created
emergency
relief
grant
programs.
Last
spring
nonprofit
arts
organizations
were
eligible
for
federal
ppp
funding.
That
is
the
paycheck
protection
program.
That's
a
tongue,
twister
and
artists,
including
a
self-employed,
were
generally
eligible
for
unemployment
benefits
in
california,
but
not
everybody
was
able
to
secure
these
dollars
and
they
are
either
no
longer
available
or
ending.
So
the
future
remains
uncertain.
D
Their
artwork
has
been
made
available
on
amplifier's
website
for
free
and
shared
widely
on
social
media.
You
may
recognize
the
style,
so
this
is
an
example
of
social
practice.
Art
making
artistic
adaptation
in
thousand
oaks
has
been
quick
and
imaginative,
and
I'd
like
to
invite
jonathan
cerret
now
to
show
some
examples
from
the
community.
E
Thank
you
david,
as
david
was
saying.
Obviously,
this
is
this
is
a
situation
which
stretches
global
and
is
not
just
focused
to
the
canelo
valley,
but
obviously
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
our
canelo
valley
organizations,
which
have
made
a
pivot
and
very
creative
way
to
still
be
able
to
provide
their
art
and
access
to
their
work
through
different
means.
This
is
just
a
sampling.
E
If
I
can
have
the
next
slide,
please,
and
then
we
also
have
organizations
which
have
adapted
for
live
events
in
a
drive-in
style
or
some
sort
of
modified
capacity.
Five-Star
theatricals
has
done
that
with
different
concerts,
a
couple
of
them
out
at
the
palm
garden
hotel.
They
performed
one
of
them
with
teo
arts
for
the
road
show.
Last
week,
teo
arts,
as
I
mentioned
a
minute
ago,
also
has
some
other
programs
coming
up
this
weekend.
E
Canelo
players
is
actually
doing
both
streaming
and
some
drive-in
activity
they're
doing
a
haunted,
broadway
and
hillcrest
center
for
the
arts
actually
adapted
the
two
and
kind
of
merged
them.
Together
they
did
a
live
presentation
of
the
pirates
of
penzance
back
in
july,
I
think
could
have
been
june.
No
it's
august.
It's
on
my
screen,
it's,
but
they
did
a
live
adaptation
where
they
took
performers
who
were
actually
performing
in
boxes
that
they
had
constructed
and
inside
of
these
wooden
boxes.
E
The
performers
were
actually
emoting
and
telling
a
story
which
was
fantastic,
and
it
was
also
simultaneously
being
streamed
to
youtube,
so
people
could
participate
and
watch
from
home.
So
a
lot
of
these
organizations
and
again
not
to
leave
anybody
out.
This
is
just
a
sampling
of
all
of
the
really
creative
ways
that
our
arts
organizations
have
responded
and
been
able
to
still
provide
their
artwork
and
their
their
creative
activity
to
everybody
in
the
community.
E
There's
also
art
trek,
which
I
did
not
put
on
the
the
slide
here.
Art
trek
has
done
a
series
of
virtual
programming
as
well.
They
actually
pivoted
into
a
social
engagement
role
where
they
assisted
with
basic
needs,
not
necessarily
fulfilling
the
creative
element
right
out
the
gate,
but
they
started
providing
basic
needs
like
diapers
and
groceries
and
and
basic
needs
assistance
to
the
safe
passage
program
and
assisting
other
members
in
the
community.
E
So
really
out
of
out
of
all
of
these
examples,
it's
a
way
in
which
it
shows
the
creative
ways
in
which
our
community
gets
together
and
provides
these
services,
which
are
essential,
at
least
from
our
perspective
as
arts
and
cultural,
purveyors
and
providers
and
participants.
These
are
essential
services
that
they're
providing
to
the
community
and
they're
finding
new
ways
in
which
to
get
them
and
deliver
them.
C
C
D
D
D
D
It's
defined
in
large
part
by
your
suburban
context
and,
as
you
gpac
members
know
particularly
you've,
discussed
in
your
meetings
thousand
oaks
suburban
nature,
the
sprawl
suburban
housing
patterns
street
grid.
These
are
defining
characteristics
from
a
cultural
perspective.
The
city
is
40
miles
from
los
angeles,
which
is
one
of
the
world's
great
cultural
centers.
D
It
may
have
the
largest
concentration
of
individual
artists
and
creatives
of
any
city
in
the
country,
but
this
nearness
means
residents
of
thousand
oaks
and
of
the
valley
have
access
to
sophisticated
experiences.
Like
the
getty
museum,
the
hollywood
bowl,
so
many
more
but
you're
also
far
enough
away
to
want
cultural
offerings
and
institutions
close
to
home
next
slide.
Please,
and
in
fact,
thousand
oaks
has
a
long
history
of
community
cultural
leadership
and
initiative.
It
started
in
the
community
before
it
became
a
city
or
municipal
function.
D
Community
arts
organizations
began
forming
in
the
1950s
and
there's
a
tradition
of
well-attended
public
festivals
like
the
kaneho
valley
days
and
more
recently,
the
oakheart
country
music
festival
next
slide.
Please
community
advocacy
for
the
arts
in
thousand
oaks
over
a
sustained
period
of
time
motivated
the
city
to
secure
voter
approval
for
the
civic
arts
plaza
in
1987,
and
the
facility
opened
in
1994..
D
There
are
three
resident
organizations
that
call
the
performing
arts
center
home.
The
new
west
symphony
pacific
festival,
ballet
and
five-star
theatricals,
almost
three-quarters
of
all
theater
uses
by
renters,
including
the
resident
oregon
organizations
which
generates
revenue
to
support
the
operations
of
the
facility.
D
D
The
cultural
affairs
department
and
its
partners
serve
a
very
large
number
of
people
each
year
thousand
oaks.
Demographics
correlate
strongly
with
the
traditional
arts
audience
and
the
performing
arts
center
serves
about
half
of
the
city's
residents
each
year
before
covid,
the
performing
arts
center
served
a
total
of
two
hundred
thousand
people
annually
and
sold
eight
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
tickets.
It's
certainly
one
of
the
larger
performing
arts
centers
in
the
region.
D
D
The
library
is
a
major
source
of
cultural
programming
and
since
its
programs
are
free,
they
serve
a
diverse
range
of
populations,
including,
culturally
and
economically
diverse
communities
and
ages
from
very
young
children.
All
the
way
through
seniors
jonathan
earlier
mentioned
some
of
the
organizations
in
the
community
that
are
adapting
their
programs
during
covid.
There
are
many
other
organizations
and
a
community
of
independent
visual
artists
providing
their
problem,
their
programs
to
the
public.
D
When
we
met
with
the
youth
commission,
they
told
us
that
young
people
want
more
opportunities
to
participate.
Most
events
are
geared
toward
older
residents
or
the
very
young,
so
teenagers
and
young
adults
tastes
are
not
always
reflected.
They're
interested
in
speaker
series,
creative
spaces
to
gather
without
other
young
people,
opportunities
to
collaborate
on
projects
and
places
to
make
music
next
slide.
Please
so,
what's
cultural?
D
What's
thousand
oaks
cultural
infrastructure,
in
addition
to
the
civic
arts
plaza
and
the
bank
of
america
performing
arts
center,
there's
a
significant
ecosystem
of
organizations,
places
and
people
in
the
city
where
the
arts
take
place
and
let's,
let's
take
a
closer
look
next
slide.
Please
there
are
37,
non-profit
arts
and
cultural
organizations
in
thousand
oaks.
They
encompass
a
broad
range
of
disciplines,
music,
museums,
theater,
visual
arts,
dance,
cultural
heritage
and
botanical
gardens.
It's
very
diverse.
D
The
oldest
organization
was
founded
in
1955
and
there
is
an
even
age
spread,
indicating
a
continuous
development
or
addition
of
new
arts
and
cultural
organizations
in
the
community.
In
each
decade,
organizations
are
loosely
concentrated
in
the
central
areas
of
the
city,
as
you
can
see
on
the
map
next
slide.
Please
there
are
10
theaters
in
thousand
oaks.
These
are
the
green
dots
on
this
map,
ranging
from
the
fred
kavli
theater,
with
1800
seats
to
the
hillcrest
art
center's
theater
on
the
hill,
which
is
a
black
box
venue
with
112
seats.
D
One
type
of
venue
missing
is
a
large-scale
outdoor,
amphitheater
and
festival
site.
The
next
slide,
please,
melissa
thousand
oaks
has
15
historic
and
cultural
sites.
I
love
this
part,
ranging
from
museums
and
historic
homes
to
heritage
trees,
many
of
which
are
right
there.
On
the
campus
of
the
civic
arts
plaza,
they
span
historical
periods
from
early
native
american
prehis
historic
to
recent
20th
century
landmarks
all
are
available
to
the
public
and
many
are
listed
on
national
or
county
registries
of
historic
places.
D
Thousand
oaks
has
a
surprising
creative
economy.
It's
made
all
the
more
relevant
because
of
the
city's
economic
development
goals,
but
let's
first
define
what
we
mean
by
creative
economy.
It's
comprised
of
economic
systems
where
values
based
on
imaginative
qualities,
rather
than
the
traditional
resources
of
lands,
labor
and
capital.
D
The
creative
economy
into
includes
two
basic
components:
the
creative
industries
and
creative
occupations.
The
creative
industries
are
the
businesses
for
profit
and
nonprofit,
whose
products
and
services
are
based
on
creativity.
Creative
industries
include
arts,
you
know
performing,
and
visual
architecture,
design,
entertainment
advertising
many
more
alongside
these
are
the
second
component,
creative
occupations.
D
D
The
next
slide,
please,
when
you
measure
a
creative
economy,
you
include
all
creative
workers,
those
who
work
in
a
creative
business
and
those
who
work
in
a
non-created
business
on
the
slide.
It's
the
graphic
designer
at
an
art
gallery
in
the
center
and
the
graphic
designer
working
at
starbucks
on
the
right-hand
side,
the
non-creative
worker,
like
the
accountant
who
works
at
the
art
gallery
on
the
left,
is
also
counted.
D
Of
course,
we
know.
We
know
that
accountants
can
be
incredibly
creative,
but
there's
creativity
in
almost
every
field,
and
it
would
be
overreaching
to
call
accounting
a
creative
occupation
across
the
board.
So
you
can
see
in
the
venn
diagram
here.
The
creative
economy
includes
all
the
areas
next
slide.
Please
I
said
thousand
oaks.
Creative
economy
is
surprising.
D
D
D
D
This
underscores
the
presence
of
a
significant
population
of
highly
creative
people
living
or
working
in
thousand
oaks,
and
they
represent
a
collective
resource
with
intriguing
possibility
for
the
community,
the
economy
and
even
city
government.
Next
slide.
Please,
we
compared
thousand
oaks
creative
economy
with
four
other
benchmark
cities,
escondido
ventura,
santa
barbara
and
pasadena,
using
a
national
index.
D
D
Thousand
oaks
has
a
good
collection
of
cultural
assets,
arts
organizations,
theaters
historic
places
and
a
great
performing
arts
center.
This
is
a
strong
and
enviable
cultural
ecosystem
for
a
city
of
your
size,
people
cite
the
need
for
more
visual
arts
venues
and
for
an
outdoor
amphitheater,
but
for
the
most
part
you
don't
have
to
build
it.
It's
there.
D
C
Let's
see,
are
there
any
questions
but
start
with
nicholas
and
then,
as
others
are,
are
thinking
of
questions
I
may
have
one
or
two
also,
that
was
great
david
nicholas
go
ahead.
Yes,
you
mentioned
that
the
city
demographics
overlapped
with
the
traditional
arts
audience.
What
actually
is
the
traditional
arts
audience.
D
Well,
tradition
may
be
a
slightly
misleading
word.
What
I
mean
by
tradition
is
that
the
arts
atten
arts
attendance
in
the
united
states
is
first
correlated
with
education.
Higher
levels
of
education,
people
attend
more
second
with
income,
so
obviously
thousand
oaks.
Demographics
include
a
large
percentage
of
people
who
are
more
affluent
and
well-educated.
D
A
D
A
D
C
Hey
david
can,
while
we're
waiting.
Can
I
ask
a
question
actually
two
quick
questions,
but
I
think
it's
relevant,
so
the
the
14
you
said,
14
of
jobs
in
thousand
oaks,
is
that
14
of
people
are
employed
in
the
creative
industry,
or
is
that
of
the
jobs
that
are
located
it's
14
and
then
the
second
question
was
the
index
is
really
cool.
You
know
seeing
the
2.25
where,
where
does
that
stack,
not
just
with
those
with
the
the
pure
cities,
but
like
other
cities
in
california,
is,
is
thousand
oaks
doing
really
well?
D
Well,
we
know
from
the
comparison
that
thousand
oaks
is
doing
really
well
for
a
suburb
of
l.a
or
in
the
case
of
escondido.
You
know,
suburb
of
san,
diego,
the
cvi,
the
creative
vitality
index
for
la
county
is
about
2.2,
so
it's
about
the
same
as
la
county
as
a
whole.
I
think
la
city
is
probably
a
little
higher
and
matt.
C
D
All
right:
well,
we
said
at
the
start
of
the
presentation
that
the
arts
and
cultural
element
is
an
opportunity
to
set
city-wide
cultural
priorities
and
policy,
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
want
to
be
want
to
be
talking
about
with
gpac
members
and
with
the
public
tonight.
You
know
what
are
the
issues
and
opportunities
that
present
themselves
that
we
should
be
concerned
with
in
the
element,
so,
first
of
all,
arts
and
culture
can
be
great
economic
development.
We
see
it
in
your
creative
economy,
but
in
thousand
oaks.
D
The
element
can
also
focus
on
city-wide
cultural
development.
Beyond
the
theaters,
for
example,
residents
seek
more
gathering
places,
and
arts
and
culture
are
an
excellent
tool
for
making
gathering
places.
Successful
public
art
is
another
opportunity
to
integrate
art
into
everyday
life
and
throughout
the
community,
and
the
city
does
not
yet
have
a
public
art
program,
which
is
unusual
for
a
city
of
your
of
your
size
and
stature.
D
D
We
heard
a
lot
about
the
need
to
expand
arts
education,
both
in
the
public
schools
and
in
the
community.
The
arts
helped
develop
young
people
for
careers
both
inside
and
outside
the
arts.
They
teach
capacities
like
creativity,
teamwork,
problem
solving
and
empathy
which
are
sought
by
employers
in
many
different
fields
and
finally,
thousand
oaks.
Concentration
of
creative
people,
as
we've
said,
suggests
the
possibility
of
engaging
them
more
in
city,
government
and
civic
issues.
D
There's
a
wide
field
of
possibility.
Everything
from
artists
serving
on
civic
boards
and
commissions,
artists
on
design
teams,
artists,
improving
city
communications
and
engagement.
The
possibilities
are
really
quite
endless,
and
now
I
think
we
are
going
back
to
matt
for
our
second
snap
poll,
correct.
B
C
C
Yep,
okay,
good,
so
the
the
top
choice
that
folks
had
the
top
one
was
creating
a
vibrant
cultural
scene
that
attracts
and
retains
talented
workers.
68
of
you
chose
that
and
then
the
next
after
that
they're
really
these
two
at
the
top
were
supporting
and
enhancing
arts
facilities
and
arts
programming
across
the
city
and
then
tied
for
third
was
increasing
public
and
private
support
for
the
arts
and
then
providing
increased
arts
learning
opportunities
for
children
and
youth.
B
B
B
C
F
Yeah
hi,
my
name
is
katherine
shu
and
I
am
a
member
of
the
public
and
a
commissioner
on
the
youth
commission
and
I
had
a
question
regarding
what
public
art
referred
to
because,
like
I
know,
some
cities
do
like
pop-ups
and
murals
in
los
angeles.
So
I
was
wondering
if
that
would
be
incorporated
in
the
architecture
or
what
specifically.
A
A
So
that
would
be
something
that
would
enhance
a
building,
be
a
sculpture
on
the
property,
the
integrated
art
into
the
building,
and
then
you
can
also
do
a
private
development
ordinance
which
raises
funds,
that's
more
for
flexible
arts
programming,
so
it
could
be
sculpture.
It
could
be
a
public
pop-up
event.
That's
considered
public
arts
there's
many
different
ways,
but
really
it's
what
is
accessible
as
david
said
earlier,
accessible
for
all,
and
what
we've
seen
in
the
last
six
to
seven
months
with
public
art
is
that
it's
becoming
much
more
popular
because
it
is
accessible.
D
Catherine,
I
want
to
also
say
good
to
see
you
again
glad
you
could
attend
tonight,
and
you
know
the
the
more
creative
public
public
art
programs
can
be
a
little
bit
staid
right.
They
can
be
a
little
conservative
and
not
that
exciting,
but
the
the
more
creative
programs
now
have
components
for
youth
and
it
just
as
soon
as
you
raise
your
hand.
I
realized
this
is
another
example
of
how
the
city
could
provide
more
opportunities
for
youth
involvement
in
the.
F
Arts
yeah,
thank
you
for
elaborating
more
on
that
and
I
think
one
example
of
a
great
art,
pop-up
thing
that
happened
in
thousand
oaks
was
the
exhibit
in
the
oaks
mall,
where
a
lot
of
like
youth
went
to
that.
I
think
it
was
like
a
pop-up
store
that
like
went
to
different
malls
and
we
took
photos
for
instagram.
So
that's
like
an
idea
for
like
modern
art
that
youth
are
interested
in
and
we're
less
interested
in
like
paintings,
and
things
like
that.
A
A
It
sounds
like
a
lot
of
valuable
information
came
out
of
it,
but
I'm
curious
about
what
the
goal
was
to
order
this
like
is
it
economic
development?
Is
it
an
outlet
for
creatives,
more
entertainment
value,
or
was
it
to
harness
the
strengths
of
our
creative
population?
I'm
just
really
curious
about
how
this
got
started.
C
Actually,
maybe
I'll
answer
just
a
little
bit
and
then
the
city
city
staff,
if
they,
if
they
would
like
to,
can
can
jump
in
so
the
I
think
there
are
probably
several
of
you
who
maybe
have
not
attended
a
previous
general
plan
advisory
committee
meeting
and
so
might
just
help
just
for
a
minute.
Let
me
provide
just
a
little
bit
of
context
and
I
apologize
if
I,
if
I
jumped
over,
that,
I
think
this
is
our
12th
meeting
so
yeah.
C
C
And
so
sorry
that
was
a
long
answer.
But
but
to
specifically
answer
your
question,
I
think
the
the
answer
to
that
long
list
is
is
yes
possibly,
and
it
could
be
any
of
those
things.
And
that's
you
know.
Maybe
this
is
a
great
segue
into
our
discussion,
which
is
we
want
to
hear
from
from
you
all
from
the
gpac
and
from
the
public
about
what
you
think.
The
future
of
arts
and
culture
should
be
in
the
city
and
does
that
help
provide
some
context.
A
C
Yeah,
I
mean
it's
very,
it's
very
open
for
those
who,
again
for
those
who
haven't
joined,
we
we
are
running
this
plan
as
a
public
process
to
try
and
achieve
address
the
issues
capitalize
on
the
strengths
and
make
the
city
even
better,
and
so
we
need
the
public
to
figure
out
how
we
can
do
that
because
it's
you
know
those
of
us.
Those
of
you
who
are
living
and
breathing
in
the
city
every
day
are
really
have
a
huge
amount
of
expertise.
C
E
E
The
issue
surrounding
the
cultural
arts
master
plan
is
that
it's
exceptionally
expensive
to
do
and
because
of
the
way
in
which
dollars
were
raised
on
redevelopment
for
percentage
in
the
arts
programs
redevelopment
went
away
when
the
redevelopment
agencies
were
dissolved
and
we
didn't
have
the
funds
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
that.
Cultural,
cultural
arts
master
plan,
but
cult,
arts
and
culture
are
exceptionally
important
to
the
city
council,
which
is
why
they
requested
that
we
include
an
arts
and
culture
element
in
this
update
to
the
city's
general
plan.
C
Let's
see
so
we
have
before
we
lead
into
the
discussion
melissa.
Do
we
have
anything
else
going?
We
we,
my
phone,
is
kind
of
exploding
here
with
text
our
chat
about
about
coordination.
This
is
one
of
those
things
that
makes
you
know
these
zoom
meetings
make
it
a
little
bit
harder.
So
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
logistics
here,
so
melissa
go
ahead.
B
Yeah,
we
don't
have
any
comments
yet,
but
I
know
some
folks
who
are
watching
online
are
trying
to
submit
comments.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
refreshing
the
link,
it
should
allow
you
to
jump
to
the
next
page
that
we're
on
now,
which
is
asking
if
you
have
comments
or
questions
and
as
soon
as
I
get
those
I
can
either
read
them
out
loud
or
share
my
screen.
B
D
Yeah,
so
it's
getting
a
little
bit
caught
in
front
of
the
horse
because
we're
we're
still
listening
to
responses
from
like
it's
at
tonight's
meeting
responses
to
what
we've
we've
learned
in
our
our
summary
of
our
state
of
arts
and
culture
in
in
thousand
oaks.
But
at
the
same
time,
I
think
you
know
from
the
observations
and
the
issues
and
opportunities
that
we've
teed
up
a
few
things.
D
C
And-
and
we
are
at,
we
are
sort
of
at
the
pivot
point
now
I
guess
is
the
best
way
to
describe
it
where
we
are
transitioning
from
really
understanding
the
issues
to
figuring
out
what
those
goals
and
strategies
should
be
that
the
city
should
include
in
the
general
plan,
and
so
you
know
now
is
a
good
time
to
start
bringing
them
up.
We
don't
have
anything
proposed
right
now,
we're
not
there
yet,
but
we
will
that's
that's
what
we're
moving
into
the
face.
We're
moving
into
now.
A
C
A
You
raise
money
for
whatever
for
the
city
or
for
the
arts,
council
or
whatever,
and
then
somebody
gets
a
benefit
out
of
it.
A
small
benefit,
but
you
have
all
this
money
coming
in
and
you
can
do
it
on
a
private
side,
not
asking
the
city
through
taxes
to
raise
money
number
two
finding
out
what
the
public,
what
the
citizenry
wants.
As
far
as
the
arts
or
seminars
or
musicals,
or
whatever
tell
the
si
the
citizenry
on
your
teal
website,
the
city
website
advertise
it.
A
What
do
you
want
so
you'll
get
input
from
the
public
itself
inc
in
community
in
concert
with
a
to
acorn?
Let
them
come
in
and
and
advertise
that
as
well
go
to
the
city
website.
Or
what
do
you
want?
Tell
us,
the
city,
the
toa
corn?
What
do
you
all
want
to
see
at
the
civic
arts
plaza
my
two
suggestions
and
solutions?
C
D
So
fred
just
to
to
respond,
those
are
two
excellent
suggestions
and
time-honored
methods
both
of
getting
feedback
or
kind
of
market
research
in
the
community
and
getting
dollars,
whether
large
or
small,
from
the
community
as
well
to
either
replace
or
add
on
to
public
dollars
spent
on
the
arts.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
A
That's
there
in
terms
of
the
the
groups
that
it's
meeting
and-
and
you
know
that
might
be
something
to
look
at
in
terms
of
how
it
ties
into
the
overall
programming
available
in
the
city
and
the
usage
of
the
space
and
the
way
in
which
things
are
programmed
to
meet
different
age
groups.
You
know,
I'm
always
excited
that.
It's
there,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
programming
that
sort
of
speaks
to
my
generation.
If
you
will.
E
Sure
yeah,
I
can
jump
into
that,
so
the
civic
arts
plaza
the
both
of
the
theaters
that
make
up
the
bank
of
america
performing
arts
center.
We
use
ticketmaster
as
our
ticketing
service,
so
we
can
actually
pull
that
data
with
with
some
base
demographic
information
out
of
it.
One
of
the
concerns
that
we
were
one
of
the
issues
that
we
found
is
as
we've
gone
through,
that
data
and
and
really
started
to
focus
on
what
resonates.
Well,
what
doesn't
you
know?
E
We
can
pull
the
data
based
on
on
ticket
purchases,
but
the
hard
part
is
it's
based
on
ticket
purchases,
so
somebody
is
actively
making
a
purchase
when
we
capture
that
data,
but
what
it
doesn't
capture
is
who
is
not
making
purchases
and
that's
the
hard
part,
is
we.
We
have
to
go
through
the
tried
and
true
method
of
trial
and
error
and
seeing
what
resonates
well
with
the
community
and
what
doesn't
we've
believe
me.
E
So
the
building
itself
has
a
little
bit
of
a
barrier
there.
It
doesn't
mean
that
there's
not
programming
for
different
demographics,
it's
just
a
matter
of
figuring
out
what
those
are
but,
like
I
said
it,
it's
not
only
talking
about
you
know
the
data
based
on
who's
buying
tickets,
it's
trying
to
figure
out
the
data
on
who's,
not
buying
tickets,
and
what's
the
reasoning,
why
is
it?
Is
it
too
high
of
a
price
point?
C
All
right,
let's
go
to
our
discussion.
If
we
could
our
small
group
discussion,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we
have
enough
time
for
that.
These
questions
are
great.
We
are
going
to
move
people
melissa,
I'm
just
gonna
go
ahead
and
do
this
and
tell
me
if
I'm
getting
anything
wrong
here,
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
move
into
our
breakout
rooms.
C
I
would
assume
many
of
you
have
used
zoom
breakout
rooms
at
this
point
in
in
our
pandemic
life
here,
but
the
host
is
going
to
invite
you
to
a
to
a
breakout
room.
Please
accept
that
so
that
you
get
moved
into
there.
The
participant
control
is
essentially
similar
to
what
you
have
now.
If,
once
you
get
into
that
room
that
you're
gonna
have
a
facilitator,
who's
gonna
have
some
questions.
We're
gonna
respond
to
those
questions.
Have
you
respond
to
those
questions?
C
B
The
only
thing
I'll
add
is
that,
right
when
we
get
distributed
to
our
breakout
rooms,
you'll
be
momentarily
disconnected
from
your
screen.
Don't
worry,
you'll
just
be
automatically
put
in
your
breakout
room.
The
same
thing
is
going
to
happen
when
we
leave
our
breakout
rooms
and
join
back
in
the
main
room,
so
just
stay
calm
and
we'll.
Thank
you
momentarily.
B
D
B
C
Yeah,
we'll
do
probably
about
30
minutes,
so
we
can
come
back
for
a
quick
report
back
okay,
so
the
questions
that
we
want
to
hear.
The
first
is
around
the
issues.
What
are
some
of
the
current
arts
and
cultural
issues
in
thousand
oaks?
Hopefully
some
of
the
conversation
in
the
presentation
has
helped
to
get
the
juices
flowing
and
tee
those
up.
The
second
is
goals.
C
C
The
third
question
actually
focuses
on
economic
development,
which
I
think
is
the
a
bridge
between
between
the
between
arts,
arts
and
culture
and
then
some
of
the
more
traditional
topics
in
the
general
plan,
and
so
with
this
we
want
to
hear
what
arts
and
cultural
strategies
should
the
city
pursue
for
economic
development
and
then
how
can
economic
development
investments
support
the
arts,
and
so
also
when
you're
in
the
breakout
groups?
If
there's
anything
else,
if
you
have
any
other
ideas
or
any
other
questions
or
suggestions,
please
feel
free
to
say
those.
C
Neatly
under
these
categories
as
well
so
michael
is
going
to
put
us
into
groups
when
you
get
into
the
groups.
They're
we'll
do
quick
rounds
of
introductions.
We
can
do
questions
for
clarification.
We're
going
to
spend
about
seven
to
ten
minutes
per
question.
We
want
ideas,
you
don't
all
have
to
agree
with
each
other.
C
C
C
C
C
E
B
A
C
I
think
we
do
great
all
right,
so
everybody
should
be
back.
Thank
you,
michael.
So
welcome.
Welcome
back
everyone.
If
your
group
was
like
our
group,
we
probably
could
have
spent
another
hour
at
least
talking
about
these
topics,
but
what
we
want
to
do
now
is
just
go
through.
You
know
each
group
and
have
one
person
from
that
group
share
two
to
three
issues:
two
to
three
goals,
two
to
three
economic
development
strategies
or
whatever
else
it
is
that
you
feel
should
be
you
wanna
share
from
the
group.
C
And
actually,
if
we
could,
if
we
could
stop
sharing
melissa
and
then
maybe
if
everyone
this
is,
this
is
now
the
time
of
the
of
the
meeting
where
everyone
turns
on
their
video
if
you're
comfortable.
So
we
can
all
see
each
other
if
you're,
not
that's,
okay,
but
it's
always
nice
to
to
see
lots
of
faces.
A
So
I'll
try
to
quickly
summarize
the
list,
because
I
don't
want
to
shortchange
people
but
on
the
issues:
affordability,
access,
having
a
calendar
knowing
where
to
go;
the
type
of
programming,
arts
walks
and
events
funding
issues,
postcovid
a
local
arts
agency
for
funding,
programming
for
younger
people
and
lack
of
local
musicians.
Those
were
sort
of
the
core
things
on
the
future
side
of
it.
Knowing
where
to
go,
and
what's
going
on
diversity
of
programming
and
venues.
A
Programming
for
young
people
with
commensurate
pricing,
unified
arts
curriculum
for
schools
connecting
the
talent,
that's
in
the
community,
to
the
community,
citywide
art,
like
landscape
architecture
and
on
economics
having
a
district
that
can
actually
receive
funding
from
the
state
and
other
areas
and
then
having
a
widespread
art
support
program
for
both
the
city
and
the
community.
To
infuse
the
arts
structurally
around
the
community.
C
C
G
I
I
might
offend
some
of
my
co
folks,
if
I
don't,
but
I
shall
do
my
best
so
for
issues
we
talked
a
lot
about
lack
of
diversity
and
offerings,
appealing
to
a
younger,
more
diverse
audience
and
also
the
affordability
is
built
into
that.
We
talked
about
a
little
bit
about
the
proximity
to
la
and
the
suburban
character
kind
of.
What
exactly
is
our
community
artistic
identity?
G
Is
it
national
acts
that
come
through
civic
arts
plaza?
How
can
we
focus
more
on
local
regional
acts,
but
also
make
it
affordable
and
accessible?
We
talked
about
the
lack
of
variety
of
venues,
specifically
outdoor
and
sort
of
flexible
space
venues,
and
we
talked
about
hey.
There
really
is
a
lot
going
on
here,
but
we
don't
always
know
about
it
and
jaclyn
brought
up
the
great
point
about
the
kingsman
shakespeare
company.
How
many
people
know
we
have
a
professional
shakespeare
company
in
residence
every
summer
at
clu
and
actually
attend?
G
G
So
our
goals
certainly
talked
a
lot
about
more
variety,
as
well
as
promoting
the
variety
that
we
have
between
and
among.
We
have
a
pretty
long
conversation
actually
in
this
about
maintaining
capitalizing
on
what
we've
learned
about
virtual
transition
of
entertainment
and
arts
and
culture
and
ways
to
keep
at
least
some
element
of
that
going
for
the
sake
of
different
kinds
of
experiences
and
more
affordable
and
more
accessible
for
a
larger
group
of
people.
We
talked
about
how
you
know.
G
Maybe
that
allows
for
more
integration
of
different
kinds
of
mediums,
museums
and
theater
and
music
and
other
kinds
of
different
things
could
happen,
could
coexist
a
little
more
easily
in
a
virtual
space.
Perhaps
we
didn't
really
get
very
far
into
our
conversation
about
economic
development
because
we
got
magically
poof
pulled
back
in.
We
did
talk
about
maybe
looking
at
restrictions
that
might
prevent
artistic
venues.
You
know.
G
Do
we
need
to
think
about
a
district
kind
of
approach,
or
you
know,
are
there
noise
restrictions
or
other
kinds
of
things
that
could
prevent
the
proliferation
of
more
diverse
kinds
of
venues,
certainly
continuing
expanded
support
for,
and
attention
to
local
artists?
We
talked
about
linking
events,
I'm
only
speaking
from
my
own
experience.
We've
talked
about
a
lot
of
things
like
when
there
are
the
concerts
in
the
park
making
sure
maybe
it's
local
younger
bands
or
when
they're
driving
movies
having
local
entertainment
precede
the
movies
whatever
it
might
be.
C
C
Oh,
that's
right,
heather,
heather
and
jonathan.
All
right.
Let's
go
to
sorry
about
that.
I
I
was
having
a
hard
time
keeping
that
straight.
Let's
go
to
to
my
group,
which
was
al
wendy,
marcia,
phyllis
and
ed
phyllis.
Is
she
graciously
offered
to
do
the
report
back?
Actually,
she
was
voluntold
and
her
eyeballs
almost
popped
out
of
her
head,
but
phyllis.
Why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
the
rest
of
us
can
can
share
if
there's
anything
that
we
want
to
add:
okay,
you're
on
mute.
H
There
you
go.
Thank
you.
We
had
a
very
lively
discussion
about
a
variety
of
things.
One
of
the
things
that
one
of
the
issues
that
was
brought
up
is
a
lack
of
space
for
artists
to
display
and
potentially
sell
their
works.
It's
very
difficult
to
set
up
an
exhibit
and
drag
things
around,
and,
and
so
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
space
where
they
could
do
that
publicly
for
maybe
three
months
at
a
time.
So
we
talked
about
that.
H
We
talked
about
how
expensive
it
is
to
perform
at
the
civic
arts
plaza
and
how
the
the
goal
of
the
civic
arts
plaza
is
to
be
self-supporting,
and
that's
why
a
lot
of
venues
are.
You
know
nationally
asked
to
come
here
and
perform
and
we
talked
about
ways
to
make
performances
more
community
oriented.
We
have
a
lot
of
talented
people
here.
How
do
we
provide
venues
for
them
to
perform?
H
We
talked
about
an
outside
amphitheater
kind
of
thing,
or
you
know
a
very
european
style
town
center,
where
there
can
be
all
kinds
of
performances,
but
there's
also
you
know
food.
You
know
ice
cream,
different
stores
so
that
people
can
wander
about
in
a
in
a
very
community
kind
of
way,
and
we
also
touched
on
on
the
various
venues
in
the
city.
F
So
it's
really
important
to
get
like
a
lot
of
people
to
know
thousands
one
thing,
and
then
our
third
issue
was
financial
and
physical
access,
because
we
think
that
if
we
are
like
a
whole
community
being
engaged
in
participating
in
arts,
then
the
entire
committee
should
have
like
access,
regardless
of
financial
barriers
and
sometimes
like
the
tickets
to
the
events
can
be
expensive
and
then
one
goal
was
to
integrate.
Experiential
art
into
the
downtown
plan,
because
most
youth
and
people
are
now
attracted
by
the
experience.
F
So
when
we're
shopping
not
just
shopping
but
maybe
like
going
to
visit
like
a
gallery
or
something
that
has
a
lot
of
like
interactive
features
and
less
of
watching
something.
So
this
would
hopefully
attract
more
people
from
not
only
the
city
but
like
beyond
the
city.
It
would
help
establish
the
identity
of
thousand
oaks
as
well.
F
So
this
includes
like
public
art,
pop-up
events,
drive-in
movie
events
as
well,
so
it's
very
diverse,
not
just
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again
and
then
hopefully,
this
could
attract
different
audiences
to
the
shows
and
events
as
well,
and
we
didn't
really
get
to
the
third
question.
But
one
idea
was
brought
up
was
like
developing
an
arts
and
business
council.
B
G
G
We
came
up
with
some
interesting
goals,
and
that
was
collaborations
with
business
leaders
and
private
sector
to
discuss
increased
arts
in
the
community
so
that
we
were
getting
input
both
from
creators
and
from
community
members
who
don't
consider
themselves
part
of
the
arts
community,
so
that
there's
a
voice
from
both
sides.
As
far
as
what
our
priorities
as
a
community
could
be
increased
communication,
a
community
calendar,
a
community
brag
site
of
some
kind,
some
way
for
us
to
talk
about
all
of
the
cool
things
that
that
have
been
existing
in
this
community.
G
Like
kingsman
for
such
a
long
time
and
then
the
the
really.
I
think,
the
most
exciting
thing
that
we
talked
about
was
the
idea
that
the
city
could
invest
in
a
in
a
single
position
of
an
arts
integration
coordinator,
whose
job
it
would
be
to
facilitate
coordination
of
all
the
different
arts
agencies
throughout
the
city.
Who
would
update
the
wikipedia
page
to
talk
about
all
the
different
arts
happening
in
the
city?
G
Who
would
update
the
community
calendar,
which
could
be
on
the
city's
website
for
everything
across
the
board
from
who's
speaking
at
the
elementary
schools
to
who's
playing
in
the
cavali
theater,
but
be
able
to
have
it
be
a
functional
integrated
place,
because
it's
something
we've
tried
as
a
community
over
and
over
again
to
have
a
community
calendar.
But
it's
never
been
someone's
primary
job
focus
to
integrate
things,
and
that
would
be
an
amazing
investment
that
the
the
city
could
consider.
H
You
know,
as
we
get
a
larger
number
of
people
coming
in
from
the
metro,
la
area
coming
out
here,
for
wine
tasting
beer,
tastings,
our
music
festivals,
etc.
You
know
the
arts
and
culture
really
doesn't
represent
the
many
of
the
residents
that
live
here
and
so
staying
rooted
in
community
from
a
grassroots
level,
and,
as
many
have
said,
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
artists
and
artists
artists
street
that
is
not
being
acknowledged
or
included
or
recognized,
and
also
to
piggyback
on
what
you
said.
H
Megan
you
know
someone
that
can
kind
of
integrate.
All
of
that
part
of
that
too,
we
talked
about
that
idea
would
be
beefing
up
social
media,
and
you
know
perhaps
using
these
online
venues
as
we
talked
about
the
virtual
that's
been
taking
place
now,
but
really
beefing
up
the
social
media,
instagram
live
facebook,
live,
etc.
For
some
of
these
performances,
if
you
will
or
to
really
showcase
you
know,
probably
you
know
most
of
our
youth
younger
residents
as
well.
H
C
A
C
B
B
C
C
C
We
started
the
land,
use
alternatives,
conversation
back
in
february,
I
guess
february
march,
and
so
then
we
moved
into,
as
you
remember,
moved
into
talking
about
these
other
topics,
and
so
now,
it's
time
to
come
back
very
soon
to
come
back
to
the
land,
use
alternatives,
and
then
we
are,
we
are
moving
towards.
We
will
be
releasing
in
the
next
month
or
so
more
engagement
activities
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
more
public
engagement
activities
into
the
new
year
so
that
isn't
that
isn't
out
yet.
C
But
we
are
scheduling
beginning
to
schedule
those
now
and
we'll
be
able
to
give
you
more
of
an
update
on
that
on
november
19th.
Before
we
close,
I
just
I
want
to
say.
I
know
there.
There
were
quite
a
few
new
faces
here
for
this
general
plan
advisory
committee,
because
the
focus
was
on
arts
and
culture,
and
I
really
want
to
appreciate
everyone
for
coming
out
and
taking
the
time
tonight.
C
And
so
there's
a
really
nice.
You
know
connection
here
about
creating
spaces
that
are
multi-purpose
and
places
that
people
want
to
be,
and
so
I'd
encourage
you
all
to
to
stay
involved
in
the
general
plan.
Update
process,
come
talk
about
parks
and
open
space
on
november
19th
and
then
join
us
again
in
in
january
to
to
look
at
land
use
alternatives.
The
thousand
oaks
general
plan
website
has
lots
of
information
on
what
we've
done
so
far.
Everything
we've
done.
C
C
B
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
say
if
you
have
any
thoughts
after
this
meeting
ends
things
that
you
wish
you
brought
up
or
things
that
someone
in
your
group
didn't
mention.
We
would
love
it
if
you
would
email
us,
maybe
if
you
took
notes,
while
your
group
was
discussing,
send
them
to
us.
We
love
all
of
your
comments.
So
please
don't
don't
forget
that.