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Make
quick
introductions,
so
everyone
knows
who
is
here
they
feel
comfortable
turning
on
their
screen
when
they
say
hello,
that
would
be
wonderful,
but
if
not,
that's
also
fine,
and
why
not?
We
started
until
once.
Again,
I'm
going
to
start
to
recognize.
I
'm
mar
ryan
in
the
project's
office
we're
going
to
go
with
the
person
from
the
city
christian
all
this
is
a
thing
back
here,
cristian
sir
planner
in
the
chatterbox
team.
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A
B
To
see
the
people
I
see
cannes
who
follow
and
park
and
has
been
a
resident
since
1993
is
on
the
committee
of
cable
in
the
90s
when
the
companies
go
away
trying
to
put
on
salsa
it's
not
a
smeared
football
and
an
interesting
experience
and
they
make
sure
our
2
million
funds
went
out
and
was
allocated
to
the
sports
fields
in
the
high
schools
in
the
area.
So
it's
in
my
connection
with
the
governance
of
the
city.
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B
Currently,
I
am
a
one:
people
come
as
a
result
of
the
full
time
and
I
am
practicing
real
estate
and
not
when
venture
already
for
21
years
and
its
a
resident
to
the
cone
of
adventure.
Since
I
came
to
california
in
college
in
1970,
and
then
you
live
in
the
beach
communities
from
1975
to
1990,
where
he
was
broadcast
with
a
radio
station,
fm
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xps
and
was
also
assigned
to
the
municipal
council
and
in
the
bureau
of
t
urism.
So
my
concern
is
obviously
about
the
resident
as
a
resident
time.
B
Cultured
is
the
lovers
since
1999
she
and
I
am
concerned
about
our
community
and
the
county.
Thanks,
we
have
al
sabá,
nothing
I
am
seva
and
been
in.
Several
of
these
I
am
not
trying
to
understand
how
everything
it
works.
I've
been
here
since
1972,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
our
city
stays
great
as
it
is.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
seeing
it
again
frank
miller
is
the
right
number
rank.
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B
Drive
rabbit
a
community
and,
let's
be
al,
we
advocate
for
exclusive
education
in
Conejo
Valley
Unified,
especially
for
students
with
disabilities,
so
I'm
really
interested
in
issues
of
equity
and
inclusion.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Ok,
let's
see,
but
I
can
try
again
to
see
if
we
hear
you,
it
works.
Fine.
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C
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A
B
B
We
take
all
the
comments
and
the
alternatives
are
going
to
change
from
what
we
have
presented,
probably
one
of
the
three
soon
a
combination
of
the
three
or
new
ideas.
By
the
time
it
goes
before
the
city
council,
which
is
going
to
be
in
the
spring.
What
we
want
to
do
today
is
answer
questions
that
you
may
have.
B
This
is
not
about
advocating
on
individual
points
on
this
call
and
how
we're
going
to
be
getting
feedback.
The
The
only
way
we
are
going
to
do
it
is
through
the
online
survey,
as
well
as
any
comments
associated
with
the
summary
book.
That
is
online.
That
includes
the
map
of
the
potential
changes
in
it
and
everyone,
please
feel
free
to
say
what
want
to
say,
comment
you
want
to
make,
but
do
not
choose
please
that
this
is
not
an
opportunity.
We
will
not
be
writing
the
address
of
the
comments
that
are
made
in
es.
B
This
meeting
is
really
about
answering
questions.
We
understand
that
this
information
is
very
complex.
There
are
many
factors
that
go
into
it,
so
we
are
having
these
sessions
to
help
people
understand,
given
the
complexity
of
it
and
with
that
I
am
going
to
open
it
and
I
think
so
you
want
to
say
something
if
you
can
show
her
your
hand,
so
she
can
see
you
raise
your
hand.
That
would
be
wonderful
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have,
but
we're
ready
to
hear
you
scream
again.
B
As
far
as
I
understand
for
listening
to
all
the
presentations
at
the
meetings,
the
owners
of
the
land
have
the
right
to
say:
if
I
want
a
development
or
not
that
a
development,
what
is
the
percentage
they
saw?
The
boulevard
is
too
much.
What
is
the
percentage
of
these
people
on
the
boulevard
who
say
yes,
I
want
to
re,
develop
my
property
and
also
when
they
are
redeveloping.
They
are
leaving,
for
example,
let's
say.
B
What
it
is
there
or
they
delete
it,
and
they
start
from
scratch,
it
is
or
they
build
on
top
of
it.
The
answer
is,
and
it
is
a
very
good
question
of
how
planning
and
development
happens
in
any
city
just
because
of
knox,
potentially
the
general
plan
that
is
more
for
division
and
addition
of
the
future
of
the
city
and
everyone
votes
are
what
should
happen.
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B
To
the
thousands
of
parcels
that
overrode
everywhere
else,
if
they
choose
to
develop
or
propose
development
on
their
parcels
and
when
they
do,
they
have
to
follow
the
regulations
in
the
final
plan
and
in
the
zoning.
The
question
is:
what
percentage
of
parcels
are
hidden
plots?
We
do
not
do
a
survey,
but
if
you
look
along
the
boulevard,
it
is
a
very
small
number
that
have
really
come
up
with
proposals,
and
that
was
some
time
after
the
specific
harmonic
boulevard
plan.
B
I
think
it
was
in
2015
if
someone
to
help
with
that
when
that
was
when
it
was
adopted.
So
it
takes
five
years
and
there
have
only
been
a
couple
of
projects
that
have
come
up
as
potential
projects.
There
are
a
few
others
that
have
happened,
so
that
is
the
process.
Essentially,
it
depends
on
the
owners
of
the
land,
but
we
didn't
use
exactly
one
they
would
all
develop
and,
in
my
experience,
doing
planning
throughout
the
state.
There
are
very
few
who
would
choose
a
development
on
their
properties
is.
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B
B
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B
Because
I
don't
have
a
17-year-old
daughter
who
's
a
senior
in
high
school
house
or
not
rusty.
Our
offices
strangers,
which,
when
high
school,
there
was
schleck
salt,
the
traffic
is
horrendous
and
they
are
planning.
They
have
two
more
cars
per
house.
They
have
six
thousand
more
cars
that
are
going
to
be
on
the
road
and
what
kind
of
plan
exists
there
and
the
state
is
planning
any
kind
of
commitment
and
to
give
us
improved
infrastructure
to
move
from
one
community
to
another
because
I
know
which
yellow
venture
to
or
further
south
like
westlake.
B
B
A
there
is
a
question
in
everything:
yes,.
What
resources
are
you
going
to
see
changes,
because
it
seems
that
we
are
doing
this
because
the
state
is
saying:
if
you
do
not
add
these
additional
houses,
we
will
have
money.
Two
of
you
and
I
do
not
see
with
your
that
we
have
the
roads,,
whether
highways
or
locals,
to
really
support
these
extra
houses.
How
are
we
planning
to
mitigate
that?
I
do
not
understand.
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A
A
B
B
To
talk,
then,
about
the
roads
that
cross
like
the
boulevard
I,
would
urge
peter
to
look
at
the
reports
of
transportation
conditions
and
what
we
see
is
to
say
the
areas
of
the
cities
that
have
been
impacted
by
traffic
in
a
small
period.
The
majority
of
the
road
infrastructure
are
not
impacted,
for
most
of
the
time
can
be
left
in
those
periods
of
time
that,
when
it
is,
it
is
clearly
one
of
the
ways
right
now
we
are
talking
about
adding
to
the
channel
for
the
city
in
different
ways
to
allocate
that
growth.
B
Once
we
have
that,
and
we
are
not
looking
at
a
little
vision
once
we
have
that
that
we
give
something
to
the
clear
we
are
going
to
go
a
little
more
into
bottom
line
and
what
the
next
20
years
would
look
like,
which
is
much
more
limited
growth
for
different
reasons.
When
you
look
at
infrastructure
with
the
numbers
associated
with
that.
A
B
One
of
the
things
that
we
mentioned
about
the
schools:
the
schools-
are
problems
everywhere
with
the
school
they
come
out.
Absolutely
it's
a
disaster
because
everybody
runs
the
school
there's
nothing
to
do
around
that.
That
happens
in
all
the
schools
around
from
all
over
the
country
and
I
think
that
this
is
one
that
we
are
not
a
pill
that
we
are
not
swallowing
but
no
way
forward,
but
so
what
I
am
hearing
that
you
say
and
correct
me
if
I
am
wrong
more
is
that
first,
we
will
build
the
houses.
B
Yes,
we
're
going
to
worry
about
traffic
later.
That's
not
what
I
said.
What
I
said
is
that
we're
in
a
planning
process
that
we
have
right
now?
What
we're
doing
is
we're
identifying
potential
locations
and
growth
patterns,
and
once
we
have
the
growth
patterns,
we
that
are
potential
and
we
are
going
to
go
to
where
we
think
growth
is
going
to
happen
in
the
next
20
years,
and
it
goes
a
bit
to
Karol's
question
of
how
o
We
know
what
it
is
going
to
want
to
achieve,.
We
have
to
predict
a
little,.
B
What
we
are
going
to
do
is
identify
where
that
growth
is
going
to
take
place
and
start
planning
infrastructure
based
on
what
is
predicted
and
associate
it
with
the
developed
project.
Once
it
is
approved.,
there
has
to
be
transportation,
with
an
analysis
and
transportation
to
make
sure
that
there
can
be
access
to
the
area.
B
A
A
B
They
come
up
with
number
protect
me,
yes,
that
the
number,
but
that
state
the
drives
we
have
to
identify,
is
not
built
identify
space
for
that
in
case
qu
If
someone
wants
to
build,,
there
are
about
2,600
units.
This
is
a
guarantee
of
development..
What
we
found
is
that
some
jurisdictions
could
exceed
that
number
and
not
many
others
are
not
going
to
do
so,.
So
it
is
not
that
the
city
is
required
to
build
that
and
grow
in
a
certain
way.
way.
B
Is
the
city
is
required
to
identify
an
amount
of
space
to
allow
housing
to
be
built?
If
property
owners
choose
to
do
so
now,
there
is
no
guarantee
of
anything.
What
is
your
historical
experience
when
these
timelines
are
identified,
that
if
a
development
is
90
percent
happens,
100
percent
60
percent?
B
Help
people
to
be
clear
nieces.
There
are
2,600
units,
however,
that
you
are
broken
down
into
equal
parts
in
terms
of
affordability
and
to
bring
about
the
affordable
housing.
That's
required.
Flour
we're
going
to
identify
over
2,600
units
of
space
on
the
map,
so
that
you
can
pinpoint
exactly
2,600
units
on
the
map
and
let
it
go
because
the
state
is
not
going
to
allow
it
because
for
their
question
the
start
of
production
never
meets
what
is
planned.
A
B
This
last
cycle,
the
city
has
built
about
700
units
and
when
I
say
housing
cycle
in
the
last
8
years,
so
on
average
it
is
less
than
100.
Units
a
year
is
what
the
production
has
been
I
think
as
far
as
we
only
had
to
provide
255
units
last
cycle,
and
part
of
that
was
because,
when
we
identified
more
than
that
number
of
units
we
had
like
575
unused
locations
and
we
had
like
700
vacant
spots,
single
family
lots
that
predominated,
but
those
are
identified
on
the
map.
B
So
basically
we
produce
a
little
bit
more
than
half
overall,
but
we
don't
meet
any
of
our
requirements.
accessibility
requirements,
so
essentially
the
pace
of
development.
Even
when
it's
an
idea
when
it's
approved
it's
a
couple
of
years
or
a
year,
so
the
pace,
the
speed
of
development
is
very
slow.
You
said
you
're
in
real
estate,
so
you
know
that
the
way
that
from
the
concept
to
the
whole
way
takes
a
lot
of
time,
a
lot
of
money
and
a
lot
of
effort,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
to
remember.
A
A
B
See
I
think
they
are
I
wanted
to
tell
you
something.
Yes,
thanks,
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
question
of
whether
the
specific
plan
when
it
was
adopted
was
in
2011
to
2016
is
that
it
is
a
little
over
10
years
old
and
there
have
only
been
a
couple
of
projects,
As,
I,
understand,
it,
being
in
the
development
phase,.
There
have
been
a
couple
of
projects
that
have
been
tested,,
I,
think
2,
and
in
those
mixed
buildings,
yes,
in
the
ten
years.
This
concept,
in
particular
fico
allows
a
mixed
development
along
the
boulevard
cause.
A
A
B
And
that's
all
I
have
to
clarify
that
I
wanted
to
ask
rather,
but
that
you
said
that,
in
order
to
have
the
least
amount
of
rim
for
those
of
us
who
need
the
density,
it
has
to
be
high
and
from
what
I
understand
there
are
two
parts
for
that,
and
part
of
the
reason
is
that
the
high
density-
and
there
is
an
incentive
for
those
who
build
but
I,
think
there
was
another
part
of
that
and
I.
Don't
remember
what
that
was
or
is
the
only
reason.
B
C
Lot
of
this
is
what
the
state
is
saying,
and
there
are
many
aspects
and
many
concepts
in
which
the
city
itself
can
grow
as
it
pays
for
its
services.
What
is
the
vision
that
happens
with
retail
businesses,
and
that
is
more
important
than
what
it
is?
Does
it
say
about
certain
units?
What
you
are
asking
is
a
couple
of
things
and
the
queen,
which
is
the
allocation
of
housing
that
assigns
to
different
availabilities.
C
And
for
those
with
very
low
and
moderate
needs
a
minimum
of
30
units
to
be
believed
to
be
able
to
urbanize.
That
is
the
state,
that's
what
it
says
for
affordability,
and
then
you
can't,
if
I
own
land,
I
can't
say
it's
very
low
and
not
that
dense,
of
course,
but
you're
good
unless
you're,
a
developer,
who
has
a
lot
of
money
to
develop,
affordable
housing
with
outside
funds
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
build
it,
so
it
all
depends
on
the
first
part
which
doesn't
really
work.
C
C
The
other
is
that,
as
the
density
increases,
it
is
easier
to
build
if
you
have
not
seen
this
presentation
that
we
have
given
in
the
comi
advisory
tea
that
we
gave
in
February
of
last
year.
That
shows
the
form
of
construction
and
density
are
two
very
different
things.
There
is
a
figure
for
density
that
is
different
from
what
construction
is.
It
can
have
small
units
in
small
buildings
with
a
very
high
density.
C
We
see
that
in
housing
for
large
people,
you
can
see
a
project
with
a
stern
with
the
need
for
parking,
very
small
units,
and
the
density
is
100,
and
some
of
this
is
how
big
the
lot
is.
The
density
depends
on
the
lot,
for
example,
in
cause
not
observing
that
it
has
a
lot
that
goes
up
to
the
hill,
but
there
you
cannot
build.
In
one
part,
the
density
is
low,
even
if
you
have
a
very
large
building
or
you
can
take
the
small
building
on
a
small
lot.
There
are
so
many
factors.
C
That
is
why
look
at
the
format
and
the
character
of
the
building
and
not
the
density
number,
because
one
You
never
know
what
the
density
of
something
is,,
including
me.,
For
me,.
It
is
impossible
to
see
a
building
and
say
that
the
density
is
such
and
such.
You
have
to
think
about
what
it
is..
What
you
want
to
achieve,
if
what
you
want
is
affordability
and
diversity.
You
have
to
allow
those
things
to
happen.
I
have
heard
that
people
want
housing,
diversity.
C
Predominantly
single-family
housing,
but
there
are
people
who
work
in
the
city
can
live
in
the
city
right
now.
There
is
an
imbalance
in
who
can
work
and
live
in
the
city
and
who
can
pay
to
live
here
and
peter.
This
has
to
do
with
transportation.
There
are
many
people,
the
roads
that
live,
that
yellow
that
live,
not
use
that
this
city
comes
and
they
cannot
live
here.
C
A
A
C
You
have
injuries
today,
it's
your
turn.
This
has
to
do
with
the
measurement,
because
I
was
watching
and
I
heard,
and
he
workshop
of
February
2
and
one
of
the
measure
says
that
there
is
no
net
increase
in
capacity
beyond
the
snap
in
the
general
plan.
In
reality,
the
measure
has
to
do
with
the
approval
of
the
vote
of
the
voters.
If
it
wants
to
increase
or
decrease
the
residential
capacity
or
commercial
requires
voters
to
speak
ian
can
answer
if
they
increase
the
overall
capacity.
C
If
the
overall
capacity
of
the
entire
city
is
81
thousand
units,
as
long
as
the
land
use,
the
acres
do
not
exceed
that
capacity
in
any
way.
They
do
not
need
to
go
to
that
vote
of
the
people,
then
that
can
really
affect
the
capacity.
If
one
commits
to
the
vote,
I
assume
that
the
measure
tries
to
restrict
or
allow
changes
by
requiring
an
amendment
that
the
voters
can
approve
to
discourage
the
effort
of
change.
According
to
the
measure,
it
is
necessary
to
try
to
read
between
lines.
What
is
the
purpose?
C
C
C
C
C
C
I
wonder
if
there
are
examples
of
other
cities
that
we
have
seen
that
have
done
a
very
good
job
in
balancing
preserving
the
existing
community
that
people
love
in
such
knox,
while
at
the
same
time,
doing
a
very
good
job
of
creating
affordable,
equitable
housing.
Making
space
for
people
in
the
community
who
have
historically
been
marginalized.
A
C
Question
is
they
were
successful.
That
depends
on
who
sees
it
in
their
own
opinion.
Some
say
yes,
others
say
no
an
example.
What
I
think
as
an
example?
No,
it's
what
others
think.
I
don't
like
to
set
a
great
example,
and
others
say:
oh,
that
was
terrible
a
lot
of
times
what
we
as
planners,
try
to
do
for
that.
The
overall
overall
plan
is
to
conserve,
what's
beautiful
and
fabulous
in
the
community
and
meeting
the
challenge,
something
we
know
about
the
city
of
cities
is
that
they
change
cities
always
change.
C
They
evolve
in
a
positive
or
negative
or
neutral
way,
but
evolving.
The
question
we
have:
how
can
this
city
evolve
in
a
way
that
preserves
the
needs,
that
love
the
character
of
single
family
neighborhoods,
open
space
and
addressing
all
of
this
like
what
peter
said,
traffic
congestion,
how
we
get
around
affordability
to
sex?
That's
realistic!
C
That's
the
way,
the
whole
city
does
it
different
doubt
a
little
bit,
but
there's
a
lot
of
places
that
is
in
this,
and
it's
a
very
common
approach
to
look
at
a
single
family
area
and
focus
development
on
3
to
4
multi-family
development
buildings.
In
a
small
part
of
town,
because
it
brings
people
together,
reduces
traffic,
greater
access
cost
is
lower,
lower
rents
compared
to
a
house.
There
are
many
communities
that
have
done
that.
Thank
you.
This
chart.
A
A
C
Reviewing
the
alternative,
the
alternative
land
plans,
there
is
an
opportunity
to
adjust
any
of
these
three,
as
the
process
continues
from
the
planning
commission
and
the
municipal
council
I.
Ask
because
I
really
believe
that
there
are
very
good
opportunities
for
housing
that
are
quite
adaptable
to
residential
uses
that
are
not
identified
in
these
alternatives,
such
as
the
zoning
proposal.
What
is
allowed
for
these
scares.
C
Alternative
separately,
these
5
sub
areas
and
this
this
africa
is
classifying.
What
is
the
direction
the
course
that
each
person
take
these
or
several
try
to
put
all
this
together
and
try
to
create
a
preferred
alternative?
Maybe
one
of
these
three
is
much
more
likely
to
be
a
combination
of
the
three
more
suggestions
that
are
nowhere.
A
C
The
map
that
is
part
of
the
reports
folder,
where
the
plots
or
lots
are,
they
have
a
different
vision
if
they
see
the
alternatives
and
believe
that
something
should
not
be
like
that
they
can
see
on
the
map
and
if
they
think
that
there
is
a
place
where
there
could
be
housing
tomorrow,
the
map
and
do
it
and
if
you
see
other
places
where
there
should
not
be
housing
mark
it
on
the
map.
Also,
thank
you.
That
is
very
useful.
A
A
A
C
Is
how
one
thinks
that
the
city
is
like
a
cowbell?
For
example,
a
rabbit
ranch
has
many
jobs,
many
many
jobs
in
many
areas,
not
only
this
city
should
be
residential
and
we
are
eliminating
the
term
to
produce
jobs
in
order
to
provide
housing
to
areas
that
they
are
acceptable
to
live
in
which
produce
many
benefits.
C
While
we
also
want
to
preserve
areas
that
produce
jobs,
because
it
is
one
of
the
ways
that
taxes
come
into
this
city,
if
you
have
specific
comments,
mark
them
and
we
take
that
into
consideration,
I
will
definitely
give
you
my
comments
in
the
document
and
last
note.
You
probably
know
that
the
office
of
baxter
is
zoned
for
industrial
and
is
being
featured
tonight.
That
is
consistent
with
the
site
review
zone
unused
and
available
for
various
reasons:
new
industrial
retail
industrial
that
may
not
necessarily
be
feasible
or
make
sense
curious.
B
C
A
C
A
B
A
A
B
Not
very
good,
I
think
ob
Obviously
I
am
perhaps
in
what
they
are
in
raids
with
the
development
of
some
of
the
development
proposed
in
section
d
of
the
center
of
salsa.
We
are
not
looking
to
reallocate.
That
is
an
alternative
that
we
put.
People
think
that
it
can
be
done
for
mixed
use
or
residential.
A
B
B
B
No,
we
have
not
built
with
them,
so
it
adds
a
bit
of
clarity
there
and
they
are
not
current
to
me
their
general
plan
right
now.
So,
typically,
when
the
cities
are
in
more
or
less
the
same
cycle,
there
is
a
little
more
coordination,
but
obviously
as
an
adjacent
jurisdiction
throughout
the
process,
they
are
going
to
release
in
the
ernest
all
the
adjacent
jurisdictions
as
well
as
the
county,
and
they
can
obviously
comment
from
an
environmental
point
of
view.
A
B
The
reality
is
that
we
have
a
very
high
community
that,
right
now
the
price
average
is
900,000
in
california.
It
is
700
and
the
average
price
in
the
us
is
320
dollars.
So
we
are
close
to
10
times
the
average
price
of
a
house.
So
the
sensitivity,
what
are
the
percentages
of
income
in
medium,
low
income
of
let's
say
2600
like
10%
low
income,
another
10%
moderate,
so
we
have
a
percentage
increase
of
that
for
those
properties.
C
A
B
B
C
B
B
These
categories
are
going
to
be
in
perpetuity
or
they
are
also
going
to
be
like
the
properties
of
holly
crowe
and
there
in
giran
canyon
after
20
years,
or
something
like
that,
everyone
was
at
the
market
level
for
jumping
there.
This
is
the
difference
between
planning
and
constructing
what
is
on
the
pillars
of
an
already
built
project,
and
we
are
talking
about
planning
to
allow
space
for
someone
to
come
and
build
ok.
So
we
don't
know
the.
B
B
This
here
are
many
many
resources
to
be
able
to
build
an
affordable
home
peter
sorry,
if
you
allow
me
to
add
a
little
color,
typically
affordable
housing
can
be
built
in
different
ways:
100%,
affordable
housing
projects
that,
as
you
pointed
out,
are
very
difficult
to
build
without
some
important
source
of
subsidy
funding
from
state
or
federal
cal
health
municipalities.
Typically,
their
projects
are
financed
through
taxpayer
credits,
and
you
have
to
stop
them
for
at
least
15
years,
and
following
that,
you
are
free
to
operate
with
as
much
light
as
you
like.
B
That
is
very
difficult
to
do,
especially
as
you
have
read
in
the
state
of
california.
Not
always
they
put
their
financing
to
good
use
or
the
most
efficient
way.
The
other
way
is
to
live
enda
to
write
very
efficient,
very
affordable
is
where
two
hundred
units
are
proposed,
a
project
where
a
percentage
is
affordable,
dedicated
for
typically
50
years.
B
But
this
is
the
way
in
which
living
these
cycles
can
build
very
large
numbers
and
the
other
part
of
those
that
tries
to
propose
100
percent
very
low
income,
affordable
housing
projects
in
cause.
No-
and
you
will
also
be
pushed
back
by
many
of
the
people
who
are
around
this
project.
So
it
is
a
difficult
road,
especially
in
a
city
as
such.
B
B
B
B
I
would
like
to
know
who
was
there
at
the
meeting
on
27,,
where
81,000
planning
units
were
reported.?
No,
I
was
not
there,,
but
I
have
not
returned
once.
and
again
to
those
meetings,
either
listen
to
them
or
read
the
reports
and
actually
go
into
all
the
information.
So
the
81,000
is
the
number
or
the
number
that
was
released
back
then,
and
it
was
based
on
staff
evaluations
a
little
bit
plus
an
evaluation.
A
B
B
B
There
are
projections
of
growth
and
to
reconstruct
its
theoretical
number,
all
the
units
have
a
theoretical
number
with
some
they
are
going
to
reach.
We
have
it
for
commercial,
we
have
it
for
industrial
for
are
residential
commercials.
There
is
a
theoretical
number
based
on
masin
that
you
can
build.
What
we
need
to
do
is
allow
is
never
going
to
be
built
by
allowing
through
the
planning
process
is
what
we
have
to
do
and
then
plan
for
projected
growth
over
a
20
year
time
frame.
B
If
there
is
a
question,
what
did
you
tell
us
about
being
frank?
If
you
allow
me
nothing
more
to
respond
quickly
to
the
new
ice
gas
more
to
say
how
is
the
staff
you
were
instructed?
Yes
is
to
do
an
analysis
of
the
measure
by
the
municipal
council,
because
over
the
years
you
are
trying
to
allocate
units
out
of
this
group
and
an
exhaustive
exercise
was
never
done
to
determine
what
the
current
capacity
was
and
they
returned
to
the
municipal
council
and
presented
the
information.
And
that's
where
the
81,000.
A
B
There
were
so
many
multipolar
things
with
this
analysis
was
the
number
of
the
recognized
municipal
council
that
was
associated
with
the
measure
of
the
measure
is
once
again,
it
is
advocacy.
It
is
a
thing
that
the
constituents
and
the
city
started
basically
time
and
time
again
they
have
had
to
be
interpretation.
The
city
attorney
can
talk
about
that,
but
the
number
has
been
passed
p
or
a
public
process
and
recognized
by
the
municipal
council
and
I'll.
Leave
it
at
that.
B
B
Us
an
innocent
question
in
the
general
plan
we
plan
to
give
housing
units
are
typically
for
rent
rental
housing
building,
affordable
housing.
That
is
much
more
difficult
makes
that,
typically,
what
we
see
are
rental
housing
in
the
general
tram
and
the
city
cannot
dictate
if
a
constructed
building
can
be
a
condominium
in
terms
of
power,
or
it
must
be
from
the
king
sold
or
for
rent.
A
B
A
A
B
Is
a
point
of
reference:
there
is
a
payment,
a
power
point
presentation
that
talks
directly
about
this
analysis.
I
looked
it
up
on
the
portal,
it
is
positive,
23,
the
conclusion
the
methodology
to
achieve
that
number-
and
it
is
not
indicated,
but
apparently
it
was
the
recommendation
of
the
staff
and
position
number
23
and
that's
where
that
big
number
is
81
thousand
there.
It
is
indicated-
and
that
happened
in
2017
on
February
24,
and
he
feels-
and
you
can
see
there
how
they
came
to
that
conclusion.
B
But
I
have
a
question
about
the
process
wrong
and
as
this
progresses,
you
have
been
with
the
city
of
salsa
I.
Don't
know
why
you
are
involved
when
this
started
in
2019
two
years
ago.
We
hands
right,
yes
right
and
you
have
gone
through
a
number
of
different
steps
to
get
to
this
point
of
relationship,
ways
to
be
able
to
remember
all
this
information
and
the
three
recommendations
that
are
on
the
table.
Right
now
can
be
evaluated.
B
When
you
go
to
the
survey,
we
are
not
going
to
comment
to
decide
r
all
the
associated
material
that
led
to
the
launch.
That
is
going
to
take
this
information
later
because
of
the
things
that
I
note
and
I
quote.
You
are
not
necessarily
going
to
recommend
to
the
municipal
council
before
opening
I
suppose
between
now
and
April,
a
conclusion
that
essentially
represents
a
recommendation,
but
rather
be
three
plus
all
the
information
that
it
is
collecting
from
now
until
that
day.
B
That
is
correct,
because,
because
it
lends
municipal
council,
we
are
going
to
go
through
a
process,
and
we
are
all
defining
the
statistics
of
that.
But
essentially
what
we
are
going
to
do
is
take
all
the
information
and
identify
where
we
think
there
is
consistency.
There
is
never
going
to
be
a
consensus,
but
what
we
want
to
get
where
we
feel
there
is
instructional
and
that
from
what
the
community
is
saying
where
we
feel
there
are
options.
B
Before
going
to
the
municipal,
council,
I
would
say
right
now
we
are
going
to
have
thousands
of
comments
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
review
and
we
are
going
to
do
our
best
to
find
instructions
that
are
in
common.
We
want
to
do
it
basically,
even
if
there
is
a
minority
of
a
preference
minority
instruction.
We
want
to
underline
that.
B
Try
to
define
it
a
little
bit
more
that
's
what
we're
looking
at
on
this
and
I
'm
glad.
You
asked
this
question.
We
can
put
cos
as
here
or
things
there.
What
is
the
best
and
we
are
going
to
continue
like
that,
not
reducing
that
in
how
it
looks
by
looking
at
the
numbers,
the
characteristics
in
the
feedback.
So
it
is
an
active
process.
B
And
I
apologize,
we
have
a
timeframe
from
the
state
part
of
this,
but
what
we
are
going
to
do
is
an
active
process,
and
that
is
why
we
are
taking
meetings
to
understand
what
people
are
saying.
I
think
that
what
comes
out
of
all
this
is
not
necessarily
knowing
exactly
how
one
of
these
alternatives
could
have
been
different.
B
Let's
take,
for
example,
in
this
process
that
we've
had
so
far,
we've
actually
heard
more
people,
and
they
read
this
with
start
call
the
night
we
heard
more
people
who
had
a
little
bit
more
preference,
saying
probably
if
we
want
to
allow
duplexes
or
triples
in
certain
neighborhoods
families
are
single
family
and
there
are
people
who
do
not
cry.
We
are
listening,
there
are
probably
people
who
do
want
it,
so
we
are
going
to
have
to
adjust
based
or
what
we
heard.
A
B
B
Well,
based
on
the
abundance
of
information
that
you've
collected
and
your
experience,
it's
been
a
while
now.
This
is
your
strong
point.
The
recommendation
or
the
presentation
to
the
municipal
council
is
going
to
give
you
a
lot
to
think
about
then
I'm
guessing
and
that's
going
to
happen
in
April.
So
it's
understood,
there's
a
deadline.
B
B
B
B
We
are
a
very
good
instruction
and
we
are
hoping
that,
as
we
advance
in
the
process
from
there
to
writing
the
plan
to
the
adoption
it
will,
there
will
be
changes
to
the
map
of
land
use,
as
well
as
the
policies
with
the
policy
with
which
they
are
going
to
emerge,
so
that
you
know
we
cannot
silence.
It
takes
a
drastic
change
from
May,
let's
say
from
October
and
everything
changes
that
is
going
to
create
problems
because
of
the
work
we
have
done
done
in
the
vienna
element.
B
B
It
becomes
a
plan,
it
does
not
come
to
the
new
one.
This
is
a
complete
update
of
the
general
plan,
so
the
previous
one
is
going
to
change
a
lot
because
of
what
we
do,
however,
and
Cristian
has
guided.
I,
am
entering
the
existing
plan
and
removing
all
the
pieces
and
all
the
policies.
And
then
we
look
at
other
plans
that
have
been
made
from
your
work
that
has
been
done.
B
We
bring
that
to
plans
with
the
process
for
what
we
are
doing,
but
we
use
all
the
resources
and
we
are
triangulating
which
direction
to
take,
and
that
is
what
goes
before
the
municipal
council
and
once
it
adopts
it,
and
that
adaptation
is
also
going
to
have
an
impact
on
the
environment
that
is
going
to
obviously
deal
with
water
traffic
and
all
these
other
problems.
And
that
goes
once
it
is
adopted.
That
will
be
the
new
land
use
plan
and
that
we
all
have
a
long
time
to
go
a
good
way.
So
realistically,.
B
The
plan
will
not
come
before
the
council
municipal
for
another
year.
The
whole
plan
charge
patiently
has
been
waiting.
Your
turn,
it
's
an
arduous
process.
It
takes
time-
and
this
has
come
out
of
previous
meetings.
We
are
working
on
this,
but
actually
making
some
decisions
in
the
six
years
in
this
opportunity
for
information
from
the
public,
because
we
have
made
our
plan
in
our
process.
B
We
want
to
listen
and
talk
to
people
and
never
have
as
many
people
participate
as
you
would
like,
despite
the
scope
we
have
had,
but
we
want
to
communicate
very
clearly
what
the
flow
is
and
what
the
opportunities
are
for
the
public,
because
I
think
that
It
would
help
you
a
lot
and
finally,
in
your
experience,.
There
is
a
period
of
time
for
the
city
that
is
the
author
of
these
measures,.
It
is
typical
of
what
has
been
experienced
in
the
past
with
other
municipalities
and
other
cities,
correct,.
B
C
B
Necessarily
discouraged
because
that
is
after
it
has
been
adopted,,
it
was
planted
with
the
parties
of
the
municipal
council,
mentioned
that
the
glove
was
coming
on
a
very
large
plot
and
before
it
was
from
baxter
pharmaceutical
and
from
what
I
am
listening
to
some
and
others
are
in
the
preliminary
stages.
That
is
an
ongoing
problem.
It
is
happening
right
now.
B
We
would
love
to
be
much
more
dispersed
to
make
work
for
you
and
what
it
is
worth
in
all
the
activities
that
are
carried
out
while
we
make
the
clearing,
but
it
does
not
work
like
that,
and
in
fact,
what
ends
up
happening
is
that
we
see,
as
things
happen
where
there
is
interest
and
where
there
is
not,
some
of
the
decisions
will
be
information
on
how
the
municipal
council
is
thinking
and
what
the
community
is
thinking
about
some
of
these
concepts.
So
it
is
help
for
us,
but
it's
a
moving
target.
B
B
B
Literally,
the
state
needs
to
meet
October.
When
is
the
deadline
of
time
to
adopt
the
element
of
housing
that
reviews
certified
by
the
department
of
community
and
life
development.
But
there
is
a
very
great
spirit,
because
even
fervently
minded
stockings
are
really
iron
2022
and
these
of
the
time.
But
the
milk
is
when
you
are
out
of
d
and
comply,
the
regulation
of
the
state,
the
other
party.
B
Housing
in
1970
in
the
state
was
very
different
that
housing
in
2021
we
were,
we
weren't
in
balance
as
far
as
housing
and
population
in
1970,
and
over
time
is
really
when
the
state
has
gotten
out
of
balance,
and
the
primes'
previously
of
the
state
cost
of
the
city
compared
in
the
country
are
very
indicative
of
some
of
the
challenges
we
have
but
living.
There
are
other
things
such
as
sustainability,
climate
change,
a
desire
for
equal
access.
All
these
are
the
things
we
have
to
think
about.
B
We
have
are
more
commercial,
quite
significant
in
the
city,
and
not
really.
It
will
be
possible
to
manage
in
the
future
what
happens
to
those
plots
they
stay
there
and
empty
vacancies.
If
we
return
to
the
commercial
area
as
it
is,
do
in
the
past,
that's
associated
with
those
parcels,
and
actually
how
do
you
take
all
of
this
and
make
sure
that
the
whole
package,
what
you're
doing
in
the
city
produces
profits
needed
needed
to
cover
all
these
surfaces
that
you
want
in
the
future.
C
So
the
state
us
you're
saying
that
we
have
to
do
this
specific,
but
the
process
is
much
broader
and
that's
the
challenge
of
the
connection
that
exists.
This
is
the
question
that
exists.
You
didn't
ask
me,
excuse
me,
but
it's
part
of
this
general
vision
that
we
have.
We
are
talking
about
the
details
and
after
the
broader
picture.
C
I
want
to
add
a
point
to
clarify
the
answers
that
one
has
given
regarding
the
figures
of
81
thousand.
You
mentioned
within
the
context
of
measurement,
but
there
are
also
provisions
of
the
state
law
that
says.
Cities
can't
reduce
the
number
of
unit
units
available.
We
need
to
have
that
analysis
to
meet
both
compo
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
it
is
more
than
the
limit,.
It
is
more
than
the
minimum
figure,
it
is
confusing,,
but
it
is
a
state
law,.
The
second
point
that
I
want
to
expand
on.
A
C
About
the
infrastructure
and
its
questions,,
as
you
mentioned,,
there
will
be
an
environmental
report
that
evaluates
the
impact,
includes
infrastructure
from
this
preferred
alternative
in
that
process.
If
there
are
deficiencies
identified,
the
city
has
a
capital
improvement
program
that
is
regularly
updated.
C
C
A
C
Are
there
any
restrictions
when
I
go
to
the
survey,
you
can
identify
possible
land
for
development
because
they
are
important
opportunities
for
builders.
There
are
some
current
vacant,
lots
that
are
restricted
that
cannot
be
used
that
do
not
fall
within
a
residential
or
commercial
zone,
commercial,
especially
residential.
A
C
You're
highlighting
the
fact
that
there
are
lots
that
can
be
organized
more
than
others,
which
brings
us
to
the
point
of
the
growth
projection,
credit
or
total
growth
total
construction.
If
you
think
there
are
areas
that
can
be
redeveloped,
you
can
see
them.
Maybe
yes,
because
they
are
not
used
or
closed.
For
example,
the
kmart.
We
see
the
batches.
What
options
are
to
see
if
it
meets
the
conditions
of
what
one
believes
and
one
of
the
three
in
a
batch
to
participate.
C
C
A
C
C
C
Have
that
lot
in
sight
is
one
of
the
most
likely
unused
advantageous
for
all
the
reasons
you
said:
I
don't
know
anything
specifically
if
there
are
limitations
or
rights
of
way,
they
are
pollution.
I
have
no
idea,
but
it
is
the
things
we
see
in
these
spaces
that
we
should
know
see
now
in
the
mission
and
the
alternatives
of
what
would
be
the
appropriate
use
for
this.
The
complete
uses
contemplated
for
that
batch
that
I
have
seen
In
the
last
27
years,.
C
C
C
C
Talk
about
this
particular
piece
of
land
and
this
lot
you're
familiar
with
this
day,
this
one
you
know
well,
yes,
from
fact,
is
right,.
This
has
been
talked
about
since
an
old
housing
study
from
2003
or
2004,
and
there
it
was
identified
for
multi-family
housing
and
its
concept,
and
everything
is
a
site
where
I
have
seen
and
identified
for
housing
opportunity.
C
When
you
do
not
see
the
alternative
has
a
definitive
designation
that
the
institutional
there
is
one
very
limited
with
that
of
the
situation
that
can
take.
Those
limitations
also
apply
to
the
land
that
faces,
who
will
be
the
installation
of
public
works
and
the
one
that
is
behind
the
continuation
school
that
it
has
been
preserved.
There
is
a
huge
piece
of
land
that
used
to
be
public
works.
Now
this
rabbit
ranch.
A
C
Of
go
see
shadow
because
it
is
behind
the
aerial
image,
that
is
to
say
what
it
is
like
looking,
but
you
are
looking
at
a
map
I
am
looking
at
the
beach.
My
question
is
and
use
of
property
owned
by
the
city
and
the
public
works
facility.
H,
He
talks
about
the
continuity
school
in
the
part
of
the
land
that
is
readings,
the.
C
Is
not
a
very
unusual
question,
because
if
we
have
extra
land
that
is
part
of
it,
when
we
see
the
alternatives,
we
did
not
make
a
total
violation
of
information
regarding
the
current
use
of
the
land.
There
are
all
kinds
of
shops-
restaurants
that
are
in
front
of
this
road-
that
broad
street
is
an
ideal
place
regarding
minority
retail
businesses.
A
C
A
C
A
A
C
A
C
C
A
C
Honestly,
I,
don't
remember,
the
city
is
50
square
miles,
but
if
you
see
the
folder,
you
can
go
to
see
the
different
layers
of
the
map.
General
map
issue
existing
use
and
see
how
it
is
changing.
The
alternative
is
an
interactive
map.
You
can
put
comments
on
the
map
again
if
something
is
not
designated
correctly,
that
not
only
for
the
area
of
change
but
for
the
whole
city.
If
yo
find
something
we
can
review
it
is
there
a
map
that
identifies
property
that
it
belongs
to
the
city,
specifically
no.
C
C
C
There
is
a
private
owner
and
we
have
a
request.
An
apartment
project
was
missing
and
keeping
it
for
tim
was
something
commercial
and
also
a
hotel
in
the
front.
I
think
they
have
not
put
the
plaque.
No,
it
is
not
ready
for
that
to
offer
the
process
I
want
to
clarify
that.
They
know
that
this
was
a
school
that
belonged
to
the
school
district.
They
made
an
agreement
with
a
private
person
who
bought
it
for
mixed
use.
Yes,
department,
commercial
area
and
I
think
there
is
a
hotel.
There
are
already
two
hotels
walking
distance.
C
A
C
C
While
18
assigned
units
on
the
26th
were
set
aside
for
affordable,
we
obtain
the
exact
conditions
because
it
is
going
to
be
a
specific
plan.
Development
agreement.
What
is
assumed
according
to
the
planning
is
that
it
is
going
to
be
divided,
half
very
low,
half
medium
36
13.
We
will
see
how
it
goes
before.
C
A
C
C
Another
committee,
unfair
advisor,
also
a
combination
of
a
public
workshop,
an
advisory
committee
plus
online
surveys,
and
we
continue
to
work
on
this
participation
once
we
have
climate
change
open
spaces.
We
have
already
had
a
few
meetings,
but
we
will
have
other
meetings
for
policy
review
so
far.
We
are
not
planning
to
have
individual
meetings
with
individual
neighborhoods.
To
talk
specifically
about
this
about
your
neighborhood
I
have
another
question
about
the
81,000.
It
was
said
that
it
is
a
state
law
and
that
all
cities
have
this.
C
C
State
is
saying
is
that
jurisdictions
are
not
allowed
to
make
land
changes
that
change
the
overall
residential
capacity
for
many
many
years.
Many
communities
of
california
have
not
wanted
to
have
residential
growth
and
the
state
has
such
a
high
deficit,
2.4
million,
but
it
goes
from
800
thousand
to
3
million
housing
units
throughout
the
state.
C
We
need
to
do
something
because
individual
decisions
do
not
lead
to
the
housing
needed
to
be
able
to
support
the
growth
that
it
is
being
seen
for
that
is.
This
queen
process
is
the
way
to
identify
a
greater
number
of
units
that
they
need
to
be
planned
in
different
jurisdictions
at
different
levels,.
The
state
has
also
said,
and
that
is
what
I
wanted,
I
said-
that
if
one
has
a
certain
capacity
in
the
city
now
for
number
of
units,,
one
cannot
make
more
changes,.
C
The
city
cannot
go
and
say:
oh
our
capacity
of
81,000,
but
we
already
decided
to
only
build
50,000.
So
that
is
why
it
limits
the
amount
of
housing
that
a
city
can
build
and
the
state
has
said
we
cannot
allow
cities
to
do
that,
and
this
has
said
whatever
its
capacity
in
the
city
is
not.
You
can
make
changes
to
receive
the
general
capacity
you
can
change
to
where
you
are
going,
but
you
can't
receive
the
general
capacity
of
the
city
and
then
there
is
this
development
question.
C
C
Primordial
lot
for
the
urbanization
we
will
see
what
happens.
That
is
a
very
complicated
answer,
but
that
is
the
idea.
What
is
the
capacity
compared
c
on
what
is
planning
and
how
do
we
get
to
this
capacity?
I
am
planning
before
the
coves
90%
of
the
residents
who
move
here,
because
we
love
open
spaces,
but
what
if
we
want
to
find
those
places
and
those
spaces?
But
if
you
thousands
a
lot
to
add.
A
C
A
C
81,000,
where
we
are,
we
are
at
48,000.
We
have
been
there
for
50
years
already.
Well,
we
are
going
to
a
little
more
than
half
again.
It
is
common
in
what
I
am
telling
you
all.
The
cities
have
a
capacity
that
exceeds
where
they
are
today,
where
he
thinks
they
are
going
to
be.
The
reason
is
the
maximum
construction.
If
one
takes
the
acres
of
land
and
multiplies
them,
that
is
how
they
got
to
81
thousand.
C
C
C
The
fact
that
the
urbanization-
and
this
has
already
been
discussed
with
the
oxer
boulevard
corridor
has
been
two
hundred
thousand
and
some
units
in
ten
years,
together
with
the
corridor,
that
is,
everything
is
already
ten
years,
half
of
the
projection.
We
are
seeing
a
projection
of
20
years
for
this
plan
2000
ago
45,
22
years
in
these
last
10
years,
there
have
only
been
the
'intimate'
thousand
and
some
units
in
proven
olivera
causes
for
its
urbanization.
That's
the
capacity!
Thank
you.
The
capacity
is
much
larger.
C
I
didn't
mention
this,
but
today
we
finish
at
noon,
because
we
don't
have
our
translators
to
stay
later.
So
you
have
a
quick
60
seconds.
They'll
make
what
a
laugh
I
want
to
hear
about
affordable
housing
and
what
the
state
mandates
for
affordable
units,
because
these
apartments
we
are
talking
about,
affordable
housing
houses
or
just
apartments,
affordability,
our
sale
nor
owning,
affordable
means,
different
levels
of
density.
The
state
doesn't
care
how
you
build
them.
It
just
wants
the
houses
to
be
affordable
and
they
want
housing
built
and
low
income
density
is.