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Livestream of General Plan Advisory Committee Meeting #10 for TO2045, the City of Thousand Oaks’ General Plan Update. Live participation is available during the meeting between 6:00-8:00 pm on September 24, 2020 through this link: https://www.menti.com/h366yqh69d
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Then
we
can
get
the
meeting
started,
we'll
allow
folks
to
join
on
we're
a
few
minutes
after
six.
Right
now
we
are,
if
you
are
a
member
of
the
general
plan
advisory
committee,
we'd
like
to
ask
you
to
rename
yourself
with
gpac
in
front
of
your
name,
gpac
and
then
your
name,
so
that
we
can
organize
organize
the
meeting.
And
if
your
staff,
then
please
put
cto
next
to
you
in
front
of
your.
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E
Okay,
good
evening,
everyone,
this
is
matt
ravey
with
raymond
associates
and
it's
great
to
see
everyone
again.
I
know
we've
had
this
sort
of
pattern
of
meetings
now
on
a
regular
basis
so
and
we're
going
to
continue
that
so
it's
really
great
to
have
have
everyone
back
to
to
join
us
and
and
think
about
the
general
plan.
E
Tonight's
meeting
is
going
to
be
on
sustainability,
as
you
all
know,
as
we
get
going
just
a
couple
of
quick
logistical
items.
First,
if
you
are
a
gpac
member,
please
rename
yourself
to
put
gpac
in
front
of
your
name,
so
you
can
you
can
do
that
by
hovering
over
your
image
and
in
the
upper
right
hand
corner
you
see
three
dots,
click
on
that
and
then
hit
rename,
and
you
can
rename
yourself.
E
We
have
quite
a
large
meeting
tonight.
I
think
we
right
now.
We
have
51
participants
and
I
believe
that
number
is
actually
going
to
keep
rising
up.
We
had
over
35
people
who
signed
on
from
the
public
who
wanted
to
join,
so
my
guess
is
that
number
is
going
to
keep
going
up.
We
are
also
going
to
do
something
different
at
this
meeting
different
for
a
virtual
meeting
and
right
in
line
with
our
in-person
meetings,
which
is
we
are
going
to
try
doing
breakout
rooms
today.
E
So
with
that,
we
ask
for
a
little
bit
of
patience
from
all
of
you.
We
we
think
we
have
it
worked
out,
but
we
might
not.
So
if
something,
if
something
happens,
please
bear
with
us
we'll
get
it
straightened
out
and
as
always,
we
are
live
streaming.
We
are
live
streaming
the
evening,
and
so
this
is,
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
the
breakout
rooms
themselves
will
also
be
recorded.
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E
C
Hi
everyone
I'm
happy
you're
here
we
wanted
to
just
spend
a
minute
and
quickly
go
over
some
of
the
key
zoom
features.
It's
been
a
minute
since
we've
all
connected
over
zoom,
just
a
quick
reminder
for
everyone.
You
can
mute
yourself
using
the
button
on
the
far
left,
your
video
on
and
off
the
second
button.
If
you'd
like
to
raise
your
hand,
we
do
have
a
really
big
group
tonight.
C
If
you
would
please
stay
muted
press,
the
participants
button
and
the
blue
raise
hand,
button
it'll,
keep
us
really
organized
for
the
meeting
and
we'll
call
on
you
to
ask
your
question
or
provide
your
comment
folks
for
watching
us
online.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
we're,
really
happy
you're.
Here
we
have
a
few
ways
for
you
to
participate
on
the
project
website.
C
We
have
a
link
to
an
online
forum
where
you
can
provide
your
feedback
in
the
polls
as
well
as
provide
comments
and
questions
in
the
presentation
as
well
as
you
can
submit
public
comment
to
be
shared
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Please
note
that
this
is
only
live
during
our
presentation
tonight
from
6
to
8
pm.
If
you
have
follow
up
questions
or
comments,
you
can
always
send
an
email.
It
is.
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Gptokes20Toax.Org,
I
think
I
got
that
right
and
we
will
make
sure
that
getting
gets
into
our
meeting
notes
for
folks
who
are
members
of
the
public,
we
will
have
stopping
points
for
you
as
well.
Please
stay
muted
until
we
call
on
you
just
to
keep
ourselves
really
organized,
which
is
just
what
I
went
over
here.
The
without
further
ado
send
it
back
to
matt
for
some
introductions.
E
Okay,
so
next
slide,
please
we're
gonna
do
just
you
know.
We
have
a
lot
of
folks
here
this
evening.
So
actually
you
can
go
back
to
the
previous
one.
So
you
know
we
have
tonight.
We
have,
I
believe,
20
some
odd
members
of
the
general
plan
advisory
committee.
I
think
we
have
15
staff
members
and
then
probably
20
members
of
the
public.
E
But
we
wanted
to
turn
this
meeting
now
over
to
walker
wells
who
was
a
principal
with
raymond
associates
my
company
and
he's
going
to
start
leading
us
through
the
presentation
on
what
sustainability
is
and
what
it
means.
Then
helen
cox
from
the
city
is
going
to
present
on
city
efforts
and
then
it
will
come
back
to
me
and
then
our
group
discussion,
so
walker
you
want
to
take
it
over.
H
Yeah
thanks
matt
thanks
everyone
for
being
here,
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
it's
a
subject.
I've
spent
a
lot
of
my
career
thinking
about
so
excited
to
have
an
opportunity
tonight
to
talk
about
sustainability
in
thousand
oaks.
So
what
we
thought
we'd
do
is
is
sort
of
start
this
off
with
a
little
bit
of
a
a
thought
piece
here
which
is
just
to
ask
everyone,
but
I
think
particularly
the
the
gpac
members.
What
does
sustainability
mean
to
you
in
kind
of
two
different
ways?
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E
Again,
if
you
wanna,
if
you
wanna,
give
a
comment
on
what
it
means
to
you,
what
it
means
to
the
gpac,
what
it
means
to
the
city,
please
use
the
raised
hand
feature
and
we
will
call
on
you
we'll
do
kind
of
quick
comments.
So
we
can
just
get
a
broad
perspective
on
this
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
and
as
always,
please
keep
your
try
and
keep
your
cameras
on.
D
This
is
why
it
mad-
I
just
for
me
it's
it's
the
conservation
and
preservation
of
our
natural
resources.
You
know
for
future
generations,
and,
and
what
that
means
in
regards
to
the
city
is,
is
programs
and
and
guidance
as
to
how
residents
can
can
participate
in,
preserving
and
conserving
our
natural
resources
for
future
generations
and
beyond?
D
E
D
H
A
So
to
me,
sustainability
is
our
ability,
to
you
know,
be
self
self
dependent
self
supportive
for
things
like
water
utilities.
I
don't
expect
this
to
generate
our
own
utilities,
but
as
independent
as
we
are
from
from
other
cities
or
other
things
that
you
know
create,
puts
us
in
a
loop
of
somewhere
else.
Things
like
you
know
controlling
our
our
sewers
and
water
reclamation,
and
things
like
that,
so
our
ability
to
be
be
self-supportive
is,
is
what
I
think
of
when
I
think
about
sustainability.
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H
A
B
G
Thank
you
karen
touched
on
a
little
bit.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
sometimes
get
gets
lost
in
sustainability
is
that
there
is
an
economic
element
to
it,
and
it's
looking
at
you
know
like
the
way
that
I
pitch
it
to
my
employer
is:
do
you
want
to
be
here
in
10
years?
Do
you
want
to
be
in
fif
here
in
50
years,
and
absolutely
the
environment
is
critical
to
that,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
bringing
people
on
board,
it's
really
important
to
to
talk
about
sustainability
with
the
capital.
G
S
is
what
are
we
as
a
society
as
a
community
doing
to
ensure
that
all
elements
that
make
us
functional
are
here,
you
know
in
the
future,
and
I
think
that
will
help
make
the
case
for
sustainability
in
terms
of
preserving
the
resources
of
being
smart
in
our
choices.
So
that's
what
it
means
to
me.
Okay,.
H
All
right,
then,
I'm
gonna
continue
on
with
the
the
presentation
thanks
everyone,
those
are
great
thoughts
and
a
lot
of
discussion
there
quality
of
life.
You
know
economics
a
lot
of
this
thinking
about
future
generations,
carrying
capacity
thinking
of
what
we're
leaving
for
the
people
who
come
after
us.
So
here's
a
little
bit
of
the
sort
of
formal
description
or
definition
of
sustainability,
and
this
came
out
of
the
the
bruntland
commission,
which
was
in
1987
as
a
lead
into
the
1992
earth
summit.
H
Yes,
there
are
environmental
issues,
but
there's
also
economic
and
social
equity
issues
and
in
a
few
slides
you'll
see
this
venn
diagram.
That
shows
these
three
things
in
a
relationship,
but
there's
really
this
dynamic
between
those
three
efforts
that
needs
to
be
brought
to
bear
in
thinking
about
sustainability.
H
So
in
trying
to
trace
a
little
bit
of
a
legacy
for
this
idea
of
sustainability,
you
know
one
could
go
back
to
the
national
parks
movement
which
is
through
you
know
when
we
were
interested
in
you
know,
conservation
and
protecting.
You
know
special
places
really
from
being
damaged
by
by
extraction
when
a
lot
of
this
sort
of
environmental
impacts
came
home.
H
This
sort
of
landmark
book
by
rachel
carson
starts
to
show
sort
of
the
implications
of
urbanization
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
a
little
more
locally.
This
is
the
picture
from
the
1969
santa
barbara
oil
spill
a
landmark
moment
for
our
state,
but
I
also
really
feel
like
it
was
a
landmark
moment.
You
know
nationally
and
really
for
our
california
president.
You
know
richard
nixon
here.
He
is
on
the
this
is
a
kalita
beach.
H
I
went
to
school
at
santa
barbara
just
up
to
up
the
hill
there,
but
this
was
just
another
indication
that
the
way
we
were
using
resources
was,
you
know,
having
a
negative
impact
on
our
on
our
quality
of
life,
so
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide
and
of
course,
this
is
always.
You
know
brought
home
70s
80s.
You
know
about
the
air
quality
in
los
angeles,
and
these
endless
you
know
jokes
on
the
johnny
carson
show
about
the
you
know
the
smog
in
burbank.
H
I
grew
up
experiencing
this
and
it's
really
a
positive
environmental
story
that,
through
collective
action
we've
been
able
to
clean
up
the
air
and
really
sort
of
turn
things
around.
But
all
of
these
are
sort
of
building
this
argument
that
you
know
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
create
urban
places
that
are
not
so
negative.
Having
such
negative
impact
on
the
natural
world
and
then
negative
impacts
on
ourselves,
our
quality
of
life
and
our
health
next
slide,
please
so.
H
Here's
this
venn
diagram
that
I
talked
about
that
shows
equity,
environment
and
economy
operating
in
this
dynamic
and
then
a
more
colloquial
way
of
saying
it
is
people,
planet
and
prosperity,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
outcomes
of
all
of
that
activity
in
the
60s.
So
you
know
in
the
early
70s
we
end
up
with
updates
to
the
clean
air
act.
H
H
So
this
is
just
a
quick
list
to
kind
of
be
some
fuel
for
tonight's
conversation,
about
ways
of
achieving
environmental
sustainability
and
on
the
right
we
see
some
of
the
methods
on
the
left,
where
we
see
the
outcomes,
which
is
what
we're
really
sort
of
driving
towards.
So
you
know
these
are
these
methods?
Are
things
we're
sort
of
fairly
familiar
with
green
buildings?
Leed
certified
buildings,
renewable
energy,
like
photovoltaic
habitat
protection,
preserving
tree
cover,
expanding
tree
cover
recycling,
storm
water
management,
providing
options
to
single
vehicle.
H
These
these
following
slides,
are
just
here
to
provide
some
kind
of
policy
regulatory
context
for
tonight's
conversation,
because
you
know
we're
we're
doing
this
work
in
the
context
of
thousand
oaks
and
thousand
oaks
as
a
city
in
california.
So
a
number
of
these
state
laws
you
know,
have
direct
influence
and
guidance
on.
You
know
what
ultimately
can
be
decided
for
the
city
and
then
incorporated
into
the
general
plan.
H
Out
of
that
came
the
scoping
plan
in
2017.
That
said,
a
lot
of
things
can
happen
at
the
state
level,
but
not
everything
and
the
state
needs
the
help
of
local
government,
because
local
government
controls
things
like
how
your
streets
are
operated.
Land
use,
zoning
public
works,
these
types
of
things
and
then
governor
brown
in
2018
through
this
executive
order,
established
this
goal
of
getting
to
carbon
neutrality
by
2045..
H
H
Increased
requirements
for
solid
waste,
diversion
state
guidance
through
the
model,
water
efficiency,
landscape,
ordinance
on
reducing
water
use
in
landscaping
through
landscapes.
Like
you
see
here
in
the
picture,
and
then
these
other
two
pieces
of
legislation
are
setting
per
capita
water
use
targets,
and
just
you
know,
I
mentioned
the
the
lower
picture
with
the
landscaping.
H
The
upper
picture
is
a
an
image
of
a
three-story
low-rise
residential
100,
affordable
housing
development
in
chula
vista
that
was
designed
to
be
able
to
provide
all
of
its
electricity
use
or
offset
all
of
its
electricity
use
with
photovoltaic
panels
a
project
I
got
to
work
on
about
10
years
ago
that
helps
you
know
the
stage
for
some
of
these
things
that
have
since
been
become
code.
What
this
shows
is
that
you
know
these
ideas
are,
are
feasible
and
that
people
are
doing
them.
There
are
built
examples.
H
Next
slide,
then,
a
little
bit
more.
On
climate
policy,
we
have
sp
100,
which
is
asking
that
our
energy,
through
the
investor
owned
utilities,
gets
to
carbon
free
by
2045.
You
all
have
the
benefit
of
being
able
to
access
clean
power
alliance
and
get
carbon
free
energy.
A
lot
faster
than
2045
so
definitely
to
your
advantage.
H
We
can
continue
to
see
the
pavlik
clean
car
standards
being
implemented,
reducing
emissions,
this
requirement
1383
to
divert
75
of
our
food
scraps
from
the
landfill,
so
they
don't
decompose
and
release
methane,
but
we
can
also
compost
them
and
use
all
of
that
organic
material
to
build
soil
and
then
more
recently,
379
requires
that
adaptation
resilience,
planning
acknowledgement
of
climate
change
is
included
in
general
plan
safety
elements.
So
that
brings
us
right
home
to
the
topic
that
we're
all
focused
on,
which
is
the
general
plan.
H
Next
slide,
please
just
a
few
examples
of
some
of
the
leading
documents
that
are
out
there
kind
of
from
big
to
little.
So
there's
the
our
county
plan,
all
of
la
county,
acknowledged
just
sort
of
been
updated
several
times,
but
gets
into
the
the
things
that
a
large
city
that
has
control
of
a
lot
of
resources
can
do
this
climate
action
planning
next
slide.
H
H
H
You
know
you
can
influence
things
at
the
regional
water,
quality
control
board,
the
air
board
transportation
agency
and
then
the
sport
is
probably
mostly
in
the
sphere
of
you,
know:
state
or
regional
policies,
but
focusing
in
on
that
bull's-eye
is
really
helpful
and
going
through
all
the
options
that
exist
on
sustainability
and
sort
of
saying,
what's
important
to
you,
but
also
what
can
you
actually
just
go?
Do
you
know
in
the
context
of
the
general
plan,
or
you
know
the
city
council
next
slide,
please.
E
C
E
C
E
Okay,
so
this
is
the
opening
poll,
so,
as
you
can
see,
this
was
supposed
to
happen
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
Apologies
I'm
going
to
launch
the
poll
here
and
there's
two
questions
that
we'd
like
everyone
to
answer
here.
The
first
one
is:
how
did
you
hear
about
the
meeting?
There
are
a
lot
of
us
on
now,
I'm
over
50
and
then
the
second
question
allows
us
to
kind
of
begin
to
understand
what
your
level
of
knowledge
is
on
sustainability.
E
So
you
can
answer
the
second
question
on
your
knowledge.
You
know
you've
never
heard
of
it.
You
have
no
idea
what
sustainability
is
and
you
you
meant
to
actually
be
watching
a
football
game
this
evening.
You
know
that
can
be
your
answer
or
you
are
an
expert
and
I
believe
we
do
have
some
experts
on
tonight
as
well.
D
I
C
E
E
E
Nine
people
heard
about
it
in
in
an
other
way,
so
we
can
get
back
to
that
we'd
like
to
hear
how
you
heard
about
the
meeting
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we're
engaging
folks
in
the
process
in
terms
of
people's
knowledge
of
sustainability.
I
am
not
surprised
that
no
one
has
ever
heard
of
it.
So
that's
that's
good
and
it
seems,
like
the
majority
of
folks,
feel
somewhat
informed
or
very
informed
and
again
that
that's
great,
I
think
again
tonight.
E
E
D
D
You
know:
water
regulations
and
air
regulations
and
other
things.
Do
you
often
see
general
plans
that
go
above
and
beyond
what
the
laws
require
people
to
do
that,
go
and
put
more
regulations
in
cities,
or
is
it
typical
to
follow
the
law
as
it
relates
to
water,
quality
and
other
things
within
a
city?
Do
they
tend
to
follow
the
law
or
can
a
general
plan
put
on
more
regulation?
They
obviously
can't
do
less.
That's
just
a
question
that
I
have
in
general.
H
Well,
I
can
I
mean
I
can
answer
from
a
regulatory
standpoint
that
we
are
in
a
state
where
you
can,
you
can
do
more,
and
there
are
states
in
our
country,
this
dylan's
law,
which
speaks
to
local
rule.
That
does
not
allow
local
agencies
to
exceed
state
standards.
So
in
this
state
you
can
so
I
can
give
you
a
sort
of
a
few
examples
like
there
are
plenty
of
cities
who
have
adopted
energy
reach
codes
that
have
asked
for
energy
performance
that
exceeds
the
state
energy
code.
H
Title
24
have
asked
for
solar,
adopted
more
stringent
water
standards,
set
greenhouse
gas
reduction
targets
that
are
more
stringent
than
with
a
deadline
a
target
year
earlier
than
2045,
and
I
mean
I
can
think
of
one
place.
That's
done
all
of
those
which
is
which
is
san,
luis
obispo,
so
they
want
carbon
neutrality
by
2035.
They've
adopted
a
reach
code,
they've
done
things
on.
You
know
on
water
conservation
and
they're,
doing
interesting
things
with
organic
waste
diversion.
So
you
have.
H
E
Thank
you,
and
just
really
quickly
to
add
to
that.
The
state
also
sometimes
sets
targets
and
then
it's
up
to
the
jurisdiction
to
figure
out
how
to
meet
those
targets,
and
so
the
general
plan
is
also
a
tool
for
the
valve
for
the
the
balance
of
what
you
want
to
do
and
how
you
want
to
achieve
those
targets,
because
it's
it's
not
necessarily
prescriptive
about
exactly
what
you
did.
E
B
Please
pick
up
after
yourselves,
so
that
you
enjoy
a
clean
park
for
yourself
and
those
who
come
after
you.
If
everybody
just
picked
up
after
themselves.
It
would
be
unbelievable.
You
know.
Ever
since
we
had
an
anti-litter
law,
I've
seen
the
improvement
on
freeways
and,
if
thousand
oaks,
I
think
adopted
that
kind
of
visible
reminder.
B
C
Fred
I'll
just
share
really
briefly
folks
that
have
done
the
poll
online.
We
have
six
folks
who
heard
about
the
meeting
through
a
to2045
email,
one
from
the
go
green
email,
three
from
other
in
terms
of
knowledge
about
sustainability.
One
feels
someone
informed
by
feel
very
informed
and
three
are
experts
in
the
field.
C
I
I
So
we
have
a
goal
to
develop
the
climate
and
environmental
action
plan
in
parallel
with
the
general
plan
over
the
next
18
months,
or
so
so
that
they
are
mutually
supportive
of
each
other
next
slide.
Please,
a
critical
starting
point
for
such
efforts
is
the
development
of
the
city-wide
greenhouse
gas
inventory
and
what
this
does
is
document
the
quantity
of
emissions
of
those
so-called
greenhouse
gases
that
are
responsible
for
climate
change.
I
So
this
step
has
now
been
completed,
and
here
what
we're
showing
is
a
breakdown
of
community-wide
emissions
by
their
source,
as
can
be
seen
here
from
this
pie,
chart
the
largest
contribution
by
far
is
from
transportation,
followed
by
energy
use,
which
would
be
electricity
and
natural
gas.
Then
there
are
other
minor
sources
such
as
these
hfcs
and
pfcs.
That's
our
share
of
the
state's
use
of
these
for
refrigerants,
primarily
and
also
a
solid
waste
component,
a
water
delivery
treatment
component
and
some
of
the
more
minor
components.
I
I
I
I
So
far,
we've
had
over
660
respondents
and
that
number
is
still
growing,
so
you
should
receive
the
link
through
the
email
from
the
general
plan
email
and
it's
also
on
our
website.
So
if
you
haven't
taken
the
survey,
please
do
I'm
here
I'm
presenting
a
brief
summary
of
some
of
the
important
findings
from
that,
and
you
can
see
here
that
clearly
the
community
feels
that
it's
very
important
to
both
protect
the
environment
and
to
reduce
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
next
slide.
Please.
I
Next
slide,
please,
when
asked
about
what
the
barriers
are
to
addressing
climate
change,
the
barriers
that
people
identified
or
that
as
more
than
by
more
than
50
percent,
are
cost
the
difficulty
in
changing
habits,
behavioral
habits.
In
fact
that
was
the
leading
barrier
and
lack
of
leadership
at
a
federal
level,
but
not
at
a
state
or
local
level.
I
I
I
That
transition
has
been
the
major
driver
in
the
reduction
of
the
cities
or
the
communities
greenhouse
gas
in
the
last
year,
or
so
so.
The
projections
from
that
point
into
the
future
here
we're
assuming
that
there's
no
further
change
in
the
account
mix
with
relative
quantities
of
subscribers
to
sce
and
to
clean
power
alliance
remaining
as
they
are
now
and
within
those
programs.
The
program
choice
remaining
the
same,
so
this
business
as
usual
assumes
that
we
maintain
this
pattern.
I
Basically,
what
we
have
left
is
the
only
remaining
ways
to
achieve
significant,
further
reductions
in
our
emissions
or
to
address
transportation
and
natural
gas
without
significant
changes
in
those
sectors.
Targets
over
40
percent
reduction,
which
is
the
state's
target
by
2030
and
80
percent
by
2050,
cannot
be
achieved.
I
I
In
order
to
reduce
the
natural
gas
component,
the
reductions
would
require
elimination
or
curtailment
of
future
gas
connections
or
new
development
and
a
transition
from
gas
to
electric
heating
in
existing
buildings.
That's
precisely
the
kinds
of
what
we
call
reach
codes
that
many
cities
in
california
have
now
passed
next
slide.
I
H
So,
hopefully,
that's
given
you
all
some
some
context,
kind
of
from
big
picture
down
to
specifics
about
thousand
oaks
and
sort
of
what's
how
to
frame
the
idea,
as
well
as
the
types
of
things
that
you
can
do
about
it
so
sort
of
going
through
all
this,
we
do
see
that
you
know
there's
definitely
a
consensus.
81
percent
of
the
respondents
saying
it's
extremely
moderately
important
to
meet
or
exceed
the
state's
ghg
emissions
targets.
H
You
know
which
gives
us
some
indication,
perhaps
to
darren's
point
about
you,
know
needing
to
say
well
what
what
would
it
take
to?
You
know
be
more
aggressive
than
the
targets
that
the
state
has
put
forward.
What
are
the
implications
to
the
city
but
also
to
the
residents
in
terms
of
the
changes
that
need
to
be
made?
H
So
you
know
designing
a
new
building
to
be
all
electric
is
fairly
straightforward
and
there
are
more
and
more
examples
of
those
buildings.
Retrofitting
your
existing
building
stock
to
remove
the
natural
gas
over
time
is
more
challenging
because
there
can
be
expense.
We
need
to
make
sure
things
are
done
equitably
fairly.
H
You
know,
in
concert
with
rebates
and
with
technical
assistance.
Transportation
is
largely
driven
by
by
choice.
You
know
the
city
has
no
regulatory
authority
over
what
car
you
drive,
how
much
you
use
it
if
you
choose
to
take
the
bus
or
bike
or
walk.
So
this
is
really
something
that's
based
on
values,
convenience
and,
as
we
mentioned
sort
of
changing
behavior
is,
is
difficult.
H
So
now
we
do
know
that
transportation
can
be
a
factor
of
where,
where
you
live
in
the
development
of
pattern,
that's
around
you
and
matt's
going
to
speak
to
some
of
those
things
in
in
a
minute.
So
you
know
this
last
bullet
is
really
hoping
to
kind
of
tee
us
up
to
some
of
these.
These
fundamental
questions
of
you
know:
in
what
way
does
thousand
oaks
want
to
address
these
challenges
and
what
are
the
trade-offs
that
are?
People
are
willing
to
make
clearly
there's
technology
that
can
help?
H
You
know
electric
vehicles,
more
efficient
building
systems.
You
know
better
windows,
you
know
electric
heat
pump
water
heaters,
but
a
lot
of
the
behavior
is
is
driven
by
by
values,
and
so
I
think
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
there's
a
technology
and
value
relationship
that
needs
to
be
brought
to
bear
to
having
this
conversation,
I
think
that
ends
this
sort
of
modular
chunk,
so
we're
open
for
some
questions,
both
helen
and
myself
again,
and
they
don't
have
to
be
questions.
They
can
be
comments
responses.
H
E
Nick
before
we
jump
in
here,
just
a
reminder
we're
the
next
section
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
on.
Essentially
this
the
tough
question
of
the
land
use,
transportation
connection
and
so
and
then
we'll
have
an
opportunity
for
conversation
really
about
that
after
and
then
a
small
group
discussion,
okay,
nick.
F
F
I
G
Thank
you
I
think
from
based
on
next
comments.
This
data
might
be
available,
and
I
just
don't
know
about
it,
but
so
from
the
I
mean,
transportation
is
a
is
a
big
area,
and
so
I'm
interested
to
know
how
much
you
can
drill
down
on
what
that
means
and
how
much
of
it
is
within
city
and
within
county,
and
is
it
commercial
versus
individuals?
And
I
mean
that
that's
a
huge
difference
that
will
impact.
G
You
know
what
decisions
the
city
can
make
to
influence
that,
and
I
also
you
know,
want
to
point
out
that
it's
it's
telling
that
that
is
such
a
huge
factor
to
all
this.
I
came
from
the
midwest.
You
know.
I
lived
in
two
cities,
saint
paul
minnesota
and
madison
wisconsin,
which
are
repeatedly
voted,
the
most
bike,
friendly
cities-
and
I
I
mean
it's
not
pleasant-
to
live
there
in
the
winter.
G
H
I
mean
those
are
great
questions.
You
know
something
that
usually
comes
up
in
these
conversations
is
the
acknowledgment
that
most
of
the
trips
and
most
of
the
driving
are
local
trips
that
are
less
than
five
miles.
So
you
know
somebody
driving
25
miles
to
get
to
or
from
work
like
that's
hard
for
the
city
to
have
much
control
over,
but
that
you
feel
comfortable
walking
to
the
store
or
riding
the
bike
to
the
store
you
know
or
taking
up
a
bus
for
a
relatively
you
know,
sort
of
short
distance
trip.
H
Those
are
all
things
that
can
lop
off
a
huge
amount
of
the
bmp,
a
surprising
amount
of
those
trips,
and
we
start
thinking
about
it.
I
mean
I
did
it
this
morning
we
needed
milk,
I
drove
a
mile
and
a
half
to
the
grocery
store.
I
could
have
taken
my
bike
like
why
didn't
I
I
mean
I'm
the
environmental
guy,
it's
just
habit.
You
know
the
bikes
in
the
back
the
cars
in
front,
it's
easier.
G
H
E
H
Yeah,
just
one
tiny
more
point,
tony
is
just
you
know,
there's
you
know,
there's
the
necessity
for
regional
collaboration,
so
this
is,
you
know,
like
certainly
on
on
transit
and
even
on
some
of
these
other
efforts.
So
well
there's
a
lot.
The
city
can
do
internally,
but
you
know
tackling
some
of
these
issues
is
also
means
working
with
other
cities
working
with
the
county.
E
D
Hey
matt,
we've
been
in
the
middle
of
a
remodel,
so
I
haven't
had
internet
connection,
so
I
apologize
for
this
is
the
meetings
you
know.
As
I
listen
to
the
conversation
you
know,
based
on
my
experience
with
the
city,
I
just
want
to
kind
of
throw
out
there
kind
of
a
30
000
foot
perspective
on
sustainability,
and
you
know
the
conversation
while
it's
valuable.
D
The
reality
is
in
terms
of
transportation
and
some
of
the
other
issues
are
no
one's
walking
two
miles
to
go
to
the
grocery
store.
You
know
we
had
these
conversations
many
times
as
it
relates
to
transportation
to
the
city,
whereas
we're
a
city
based
on
how
we're
laid
out
that
people
are
going
to
get
in
their
car
and
they're
going
to
drive
to
wherever
they're
going.
D
So
you
know,
that's
just
the
reality
that
I
just
as
we
talk
about
the
sustainability
and
the
broader
issue
of
the
general
plan
is
what
makes
sense
for
a
thousand
oaks,
and
you
know
there
was
a
few
comments
that
were
made.
That
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
is
whatever
we
do
in
terms
of
sustainability
and
the
broader
issue
of
the
general
plan.
D
D
D
Some
of
them
are
viable.
Some
of
them
are
not
as
they
relate
to
our
community
from
my
perspective,
and
so
I
just
throw
that
out
there
as
we
as
we
move
forward
and
have
these
conversations
is
think
about
what
really
works
in
thousand
oaks
as
it
relates
to,
for
example,
shopping.
You
know
think
about
where
our
shopping
centers
are
and
think
about
the
adjacent
neighborhoods,
how
many
people
are
really
riding
their
bike
or
walking
to
the
ralph
center
or
trader
joe's?
B
Thank
you
in
regards
to
the
bus
system.
We
have
here
and
sustainability
and
get
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
What
I
notice
about
our
current
bus
system
is
that
it
doesn't
run
frequently
enough,
in
my
opinion,
to
make
it
even
a
worthwhile
thing
to
want
to
take.
As
andy
had
mentioned.
Most
people
are
going
to
use
their
cars
to
get
around
here
for
those
who
use
the
bus
system,
eg
students,
people
who
have
to
get
from
to
work
because
that's
what
they
need
to
do,
how
about
sizing
the
buses
so
that
they're,
smaller,
don't
use
as
much.
B
B
B
What
your
ridership
is
and
then
tailor
your
your
your
your
infrastructure,
your
buses,
so
that
you're
not
wasting
money.
I
don't
think
there's
a
public
transit
system
in
the
united
states.
That's
self-sustaining!
It's
not
a
profit
driven
system,
just
a
cost,
so
I
think
to
tailor
our
bus
system
so
that
it's
realistic
so
that
it
works
for
those
who
need
it
and
so
that
it's
you
know
that
it's
sustainable,
but
that
that
is
realistic.
E
Thanks
fred,
so
given
given
the
time
russia,
I'm
actually
going
to,
have
you
give
your
comment
in
the
in
the
small
group
discussion?
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
time
to
get
to
that.
I
apologize,
but
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
we'll
be
able
to
hear
you
hear
you
later.
There's
a
public
comment
period
at
the
end,
okay,
melissa,
let's
go
to
the
next.
You
know
this.
This
framing
is
good
and
I,
I
think
andy's
you
know
questions.
E
Are
you
know
what
who
is
thousand
oaks
right?
Now,
I
think,
is
an
important
question,
but
what
I
want
to
do
is
actually
provide
in
this
next
piece:
the
relationship
between
land
use
transportation
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
and
I'm
going
to
present
data
and
information
on
what
we
know
and
what
the
research
is
telling
us
so
that
you
all
as
a
community,
have
the
information
to
to
make
decisions
so
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
there's
been
a
lot
of
research
dating
back
actually
to
to
the
the
70s.
E
E
There's
been
a
ton
of
research
trying
to
understand
the
relationship
between
the
pattern
of
development
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
just
at
a
really
high
level.
The
the
the
answer
is,
overall,
that
people
who
live
in
more
compact
areas,
where
there's
places
to
walk
to
and
good
environments
and
and
destinations,
tend
to
drive
less
and
have
lower
per
capita
greenhouse
gas
emissions
than
people
who
live
in
more
auto
oriented
environments
such
as
thousand
oaks,
such
as
a
lot
of
thousand
oaks.
E
And
so
what
we
see
is
that
areas
that
are
car
dependent
that
have
a
segregation
of
uses
where
you
have
to
drive
that
are
poorly
served
by
transit
and
lower
density,
have
higher
vmt
per
capita
than
areas
with
a
mix
of
uses
that
are
pedestrian
focus
that
have
a
walkable
block.
Pattern
are
well
served
by
transit
and
have
a
mix
of
uses.
E
Now
we
have
to
recognize
the
pattern
that
we
have
now
in
the
city
and
you
can't
of
course
wipe
out
the
whole
city
and
redesign
it.
However,
next
slide
please
we
we
do
know
that
there
are
aspects
that
we
can
think
about
and
from
research
again.
That
shows
how
we
can
reduce
the
milestone
or
emt,
and
we
notice
the
five
d's
and
again,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
research
behind
this
and
I'm
you
know
it's
a
nice
alliteration
of
the
d's,
but
I
am
going
to
use
the
d
word.
E
E
E
So
what
are
these
strategies
that
we
can
use
in
order
to
achieve
greenhouse
gas
emissions?
So
the
first
is
when
growth
occurs,
to
concentrate
or
focus
that
growth
on
infill
locations.
The
second
is
to
create
this
diversity
of
complementary
uses
that
people
want
to
get
to
so
retail
and
restaurants
and
services
residential
and
office.
The
the
the
mix
of
uses
does
not
necessarily
need
to
be
vertical.
It
can
be
horizontal
so
long
as
you
can
access
it
and
for
those
who
who
say
wow
diversity
of
uses
in
a
really
cool
place.
E
There
are
complete
streets
and
there
is
state
law
around
creating
complete
streets
so
that
it
balances
the
needs
of
all
users.
There's
establishing
a
finer
grain
street,
where
you
can
do
it
again.
Some
of
the
streets
are
already
laid
out
in
the
city
and
there's
no.
Maybe
that
can
change
those,
but
there
are
other
areas
where
you
actually
can
think
about
changing
the
street
street
grid
to
make
it
more
walkable
as
redevelopment
occurs,
you
need
to
design
for
pestering
activity.
E
You
need
to
build
public
meeting
and
gathering
places,
and
then
you
know
again,
this
grid
is
really
is
really
an
important
aspect.
That's
come
up
in
at
multiple
times
in
the
process.
What
I
want
to
say
actually
with
this
is
that
majority
of
these
ideas
that
are
listed
here
as
strategies
are
the
the
majority
of
these
things
have
actually
come
up
and
have
been
recommended
by
the
gpac
and
the
public
throughout
the
process.
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
E
E
E
It
sounds
good
okay,
a
lot
of
these
ideas
are
things
that
you
all
have
come
up
with,
and
this
map
that
you
see
on
the
right
is
when
we
went
through
as
a
group,
the
gpac,
with
the
public
of
identifying
locations
for
future
development
and
for
compact
development.
What
are
those
locations
and
that's
what
this
map
shows
selective
areas
where
there
can
be
infill
development
next
slide.
E
So
conclusions
before
we
move
on
you
know,
one
big
picture
is
that
the
city
is
moving
forward
with
sustainability
and
sustainability
plan.
The
second,
as
helen
talked
about
that
the
largest
contributor
to
ghg
emissions
is
transportation,
and
so
we
need
to
think
if
we,
if
this,
if
the
city
is
going
to
need
its
greenhouse
gas
reduction
targets,
what
are
the
ways
that
the
transportation
sector
can
help
meet
that
reduction
because
it
needs
some
reductions
need
to
happen.
E
Questions
and
maybe
go
right
to
the
group
just
because
of
the
time,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
have
small
groups.
I
know
that
that
teaser
of
the
big
picture
thing
and
then
I
don't
like
to
talk
but
you'll-
have
plenty
of
time
in
groups
so
we're
gonna
do
breakout
rooms.
I
think
we're
gonna.
Do
two
public
breakout
rooms
and
three
general
plan
advisory
committee
rooms.
Is
that
correct,
michael?
E
Yes,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
have
you
go
into
those
rooms?
There's
going
to
be
a
facilitator?
The
facilitator
is
going
to
partially
help
facilitate,
but
also
take
notes.
We
are
going
to
be
recording
the
small
group
breakout
session,
so
we
have
a
record
of
that.
In
addition
to
the
note
taking
and
then
the
the
features
are
pretty
much
the
same
as
the
features
that
we're
using
now
in
zoom.
The
next
slide.
Please.
E
So
the
discussion
questions
that
we
want
you
to
consider
are
one:
what
are
some
of
the
critical
sustainability
issues
and
assets
in
thousand
oaks
now
so
think
about
what
what's
here
now
and
what
are
the
challenges
and
what
are
some
of
the
assets
that
you
already
have
because
they're
our
breadth?
The
second
is:
what
should
the
goals
be?
The
goals
or
outcomes
be
for
sustainability
in
thousand
oaks,
and
then
are
there
specific
strategies
that
you
know
about
or
that
you've
heard
this
evening
that
can
help
make
that
vision,
a
reality.
E
What
have
you
heard
tonight
and
what
do
you
know
from
outside
that
you
think
can
help
the
city
achieve
this
outcome
of
reduced
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
transportation
next
slide?
Okay,
so
in
the
small
group
introduce
yourself,
if
there's
questions
of
clarification,
please
do
that
spend
no
more
than
10
minutes
per
question.
We
want
to
come
back
here
at
about
7
40,
so
about
25
minutes
and
then
identify
one
person
to
do
a
report
back
two
to
three
issues
and
assets,
two
to
three
goals
and
strategies
and
two
to
three
ghg
reduction
actions.
C
For
folks
you'll
be
momentarily,
disconnected
and
automatically
joined.
Don't
worry.
It
will
just
be
a
quick
second
and
then
you'll
be
in
your
small
group
for
folks
who
are
watching
online
if
you'd
like
to
participate
in
your
home,
the
worksheet
that
will
all
are
all
using
is
on
the
project
website.
That
link
is
below
in
the
description
in
youtube.
If
you'd
like
to
fill
it
out
and
email
it
to
the
general
plan
team,
we'd
love
to
have
your
feedback,
you
can
send
that
email
to
gp
at
t
oaks.org
anytime
after
the
meeting.
A
A
A
A
E
All
right
are
we
all
back
now,
michael,
we
are
okay,
so
we
have,
I
believe,
we're
were
I
really
enjoyed
the
conversation
in
our
group.
I
hope
everyone
else
did
as
well.
It
sounded
like
there
was
some
some
real
fun
conversations
I
feel
like.
We
could
have
used
another
hour
at
least
of
talking
about
this,
so
maybe
we'll
we'll
schedule
some
more
time
for
this
we
have,
I
believe,
three
gpac
groups
and
two
public
groups
is
that
correct,
michael.
E
Yes,
okay,
let's,
let's
start
quickly,
let's
go
for
the
the
gpac
groups.
First,
I
believe
walker.
You
were
in
one
group.
So
whoever
is
the
from
your
group
giving
the
report
back
really
try
and
keep
it
to
a
minute,
a
minute
and
a
half
of
just
the
highlights.
We
have
the
notes,
we'll
put
it
together
and
send
it
back
out.
A
Hey
sorry,
so
I
think
issues
assets
you
know
I
wasn't
taking.
Those
turns
so
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
walk
her,
but
I
think
on
on
issues.
You
know
we
talked
about
a
few
things,
one
being
just
the
way
the
city
sets
up
just
from
how
we,
you
know
so
much
about
what
we
love
about
the
city
is
the
open
space
and
our
ability
to
have
our
own
piece
of
land
and
then
but
the
drive
and
commute
issues
some
of
the
business
community
issues
as
well.
A
As
far
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
us
work
outside
of
the
city.
Finding
ways
for
us
to
you
know,
support
the
businesses
here
and
maybe
with
our
urban
planning.
You
know
getting
people
to
live
here
and
work
here.
That's
an
issue.
A
lot
of
us
deal
with
some
of
the
assets
that
we
that
we
love,
I
think
wyatt
mentioned
just
the
community
here,
really
tends
to
galvanize
quite
well
around
issues
and
support.
So
when
there's
support
for
something
we
have
a
community
that
really
gets
behind
it.
A
You
know
our
open
space
in
oak
trees
and
it
was
the
you
know
the
thing
that
we
all
kind
of
skip
over,
but
because
we
all
just
know
and
love
it
so
much,
but
those
are
two
big
ones
that
we
that
we
love,
I
think
goal
strategies.
I
think
goals
is
to
kind
of
you
know,
get
to
a
point
where
we
can.
You
know,
focus
on
some
key
areas
to
help
these
things
and
really
that
we
talked
about
the
101
corridor
and
then
really
it
just
comes
back
to
the
emissions.
A
I
think
we're
you
know
we're
all
talking
about
travel,
but
we
talked
about
other
areas
that
aren't
just
in
these.
You
know
more
dense
developments,
but
you
know
these
areas
in
this
bourbon
more.
You
know
up
north
west
side
of
town
etc,
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
incentivize
those
areas
to
travel
west
on
these
short
trips?
H
Nope
nope,
not
at
all.
I
think
I
think
a
key
point
was
to
say
you
know
there
there
will
be
new
development
and
there
could
be
things
like
reach
codes
for
that,
but
to
have
policies
that
could
apply
to
to
everybody
and
understanding
a
lot
of
the
you
know.
The
buildings
and
development
you
know
was
likely
to
be
in
place
in
20,
30
40
years
include
that
as
well,
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
F
Yes,
so
really
quickly
to
avoid
taking
up
too
much
time
the
issues
and
assets.
One
of
the
big
issues
we
noticed
was
the
lack
of
broadband
access,
which
interferes
with
equity
goals
and
forces
additional
trips,
the
built-in
and
the
the
baked-in
and
built-out
development
pattern
in
the
city
that
interferes
with
the
transportation
goals
to
varying
degrees.
And
then
the
third
issue
that
we
noticed
was
ongoing
dry
conditions
and
the
issues
coming
out
in
terms
of
drought
and
wildfire.
F
As
the
main
things
facing
the
city
that
we
talked
about
for
section
two
goals
and
strategies.
We
mostly
focused
on
strategies.
Our
top
three
strategies
were
improving
the
urban
forest
in
terms
of
increasing
the
amount
of
trees
and
making
the
streets
generally
more
pleasant,
to
walk
on
and
decreasing
the
temperatures,
etc,
etc.
F
F
I
I'm
gonna
report
because
I
was
typing
notes
and
I'm
unable
to
share
them
at
this
point.
So:
okay,
the
criticals,
the
sustainability
issues
and
assets.
I
always
felt
that
thousands
was
already
a
leader
in
environmental
programs
and
that
we
need
to
focus
on
the
realities
of
the
layout
of
the
city
and
also
as
far
as
our
assets,
businesses.
We
have
some
really
good
businesses
here.
We
don't
want
to
lose
the
businesses
that
are
here.
I
As
far
as
our
goals
and
strategies,
it
was
felt
that
a
balance
approach
was
really
important.
We
need
to
balance
environment,
sustainability,
business
and
cost,
and
also
another
strategy
was
to
learn
from
the
businesses
that
already
operate
here.
Some
of
the
larger
businesses
like
amgen,
for
example,
that
may
already
have
good
ideas
for
sustainability
strategies.
I
And
then
we
we
did
talk
about
buses
too,
that
there
was
a
as
far
as
the
third
part
that
there
was
a
limited
capacity
for
buses
in
thousand
oaks
because
of
the
low
density,
and
so
we
needed
to
have
areas
of
higher
density
that
would
support
buses,
for
example,
a
downtown
area
to
create
housing
opportunities
close
to
goods
and
services,
so
that
we
can
operate
efficient
transportation
if
people
could
live
and
work
in
the
city
without
commuting.
That
would
also
reduce
miles
and
we
need
to.
E
A
Thanks
and
if
I
miss
anything,
please
jump
in
and
fill
in
the
missing
pieces,
but
as
far
as
issues
that
we
talked
about
felt
like
the
roads
are
kind
of
overbuilt
in
the
city
there
designed
to
accommodate
a
lot
of
car
traffic
that
isn't
usually
there,
you
know
they
could
be
a
lot.
There
could
be
a
lot
less
space
devoted
to
cars
on
the
roads
and
related
to
that.
A
There's
a
mindset
that
the
city
is
intended
for
cars,
that's
the
development
pattern
and
that's
the
way
we
should
be,
and
that's
kind
of
a
issue
with
making
the
city
more
sustainable,
because
we
have
to
change
that
mindset
assets.
Definitely
the
open
space
that
we
have
here
that
we
preserved
the
city
staff
and
then
the
the
bus
system
is
basically
an
unused
asset.
It's
clean
and
it's
it's
great
to
use,
but
not
enough
people
are
using
that.
So
it's
a
potential
asset.
A
E
C
I'll
support
out
for
us,
so
we
had
a
great
conversation
too,
really
lively.
We
could
have
gone
on
for
another
half
hour
for
sure,
and
a
lot
of
our
discussion
echoed
a
lot
of
what's
already
been
said,
so
I'll.
Keep
it
brief
and
and
talk
about
some
of
the
highlights
we
had
in
addition
to
those.
So
of
course
we
were
really
excited
about
the
assets
in
thousand
oaks,
the
green
space,
expanding
that
green
space
and
preserving
the
urban
greenery
and
all
the
benefits
that
trees
bring
to
a
community.
C
Not
only
is
it
a
great
manageable
size
that
people
can
get
involved
in
these
planning
activities
and
programs
like
the
general
plan,
but
it
also
is
a
good
size
in
terms
of
the
ability
to
educate
and
engage
the
community,
which
would
really
be
an
asset.
In
terms
of
you
know,
sustainability,
awareness
and
engagement
in
the
future,
and
then
one
of
the
other
issues
that
we
came
up
with.
We
talked
a
lot
about
water,
water
scarcity
and
the
need
to
really
redirect
storm
water
into
our
natural
areas
and
wetlands.
C
C
E
E
I
was
gonna
forget
about
this,
so
we
have
one
more
quick
poll
to
do
and
let's,
let's
run
the
poll
as
we
are,
I'm
gonna
do
public
comment
at
the
same
time,
so
I'm
gonna
put
the
poll
up,
you
can
vote
and
then
we'll
do
the
results
afterwards
and
if
you're
from
the
public-
and
you
would
like
to
speak,
please
raise
your
hand
and
we
will
call
on
you.
So
I'm
going
to
launch
the
poll
now
and
let's
see
I
have
too
many
screens
going
here.
E
C
So
we
have
both
comments
and
questions
from
the
presentation
that
I'll
incorporate
now,
as
well
as
a
few
official
public
comments.
Actually
just
one.
Some
of
the
comments
you
received
on
the
presentation
are,
what's
being
done
to
help
low
wage
workers
afford
housing.
A
thousand
oaks
commuting
from
other
cities
is
unsustainable
due
to
increased
ghg
emissions.
We
need
a
serious
plan
to
address
this
issue.
C
I
will
continue
on.
We
have
a
few
from
socalgas
social
gas
is
here
to
share
and
enhance
our
local
energy
efficiency
programs
in
the
city,
which
would
reduce
over
265
000
tons
of
co2
emissions.
Socalgas
wants
to
congratulate
the
city
for
continually
making
environmental
sustainability
a
top
priority,
especially
reflected
in
the
general
plan
update.
I
look
forward
to
collaborating
with
the
city
during
this
process.
C
Socalgas
has
excited
to
explore
opportunities
but
to
to
pursue
potential
strategies
for
performing
and
using
okay.
That's
getting
cut
off,
I'm
gonna
continue
to
the
next
question.
This
is
a
repeat
of
our
earlier
comments
related
to
low
wage
worker
housing
and
I'm
gonna
pause
there.
We
have
a
few
other
comments
that
I'll
read
off
in
a
moment.
E
A
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
echo
what
what
sammy
mentioned
that
came
back
from
their
group,
about
how
I
guess
it's
almost
about
decentralizing
and
making
little
village
centers
and
having
multiple
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city.
I
thought
that's
just
a
brilliant
idea
and
then
making
them
all
connected
through
bike
paths.
What
a
brilliant
idea!
I
think
that
would
be
a
marvelous
thing
for
the
city
to
invest
in.
D
D
Yeah,
okay,
yeah.
I
really
appreciated
this
format,
where
a
lot
of
ideas
got
to
come
out
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
mentioned
that
I'd
like
to
speak
on
just
a
little
bit
more
was
the
issue
of
our
dependence
on
imported
water,
which
leaves
our
city
so
vulnerable
to
disruptions,
and
it's
not
sustainable.
D
The
movement
to
drought,
tolerant
landscaping
has
helped,
but
another
way
to
use
less
water
is
to
divert
some
of
the
mostly
clean
imported
water
now
being
sent
through
the
hill
canyon
wastewater
treatment.
Plant
limits
for
all
new
homes
and
for
kitchen
or
bathroom
remodeling
should
require
maximum
feasible
grey
water
reuse
systems.
D
D
C
C
D
E
Okay,
so
this
was
everyone
got
to
pick
three
here
about
what
are
the
topics
that
are
most
important
in
in
thousand
oaks,
the
most
important
sustainability
topics
and
the
number
one
was
protecting
natural
areas
and
open
spaces,
and
it
looks
like
just
over
half
of
the
folks.
Almost
two-thirds
of
the
folks
voted
for
that.
E
The
the
second
second
and
third
were
building
compact
development
with
a
mix
of
uses
and
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
and
so
you
know
it
seems
pretty
pretty
consistent
overall
with
what
we've
been
hearing
throughout
the
process
about
what
the
community
values
in
terms
of
protecting
natural
areas
and
open
spaces
and
hillsides,
and
also
needing
to
reduce
ghg
emissions
and
think
about
compact
development,
yeah.
Okay.
So
with
that,
we
are
almost
at
the
end
of
our
meeting
tonight.
C
Of
responses
from
folks,
the
top
result
for
this
question
was
actually
reducing
ghg
emissions,
followed
by
a
tie
between
water
conservation
and
waste
reduction
recycling
followed
by
protecting
natural
areas
in
open
space,
followed
by
reducing
building
energy
use.
And,
lastly,
we
had
a
three-way
tie
between
protecting
and
expanding
the
urban
forest
building
compact
development,
with
mixed
abuse,
mix
of
uses
and
expanding
transit
services.
E
E
If
you
are
interested
in
diving
deeper
into
the
conversation
about
climate
and
environmental
planning,
you
should
definitely
follow
helen
and
john's
work
at
the
city
and
go
to
oaks.org
climate
action.
You
can
learn
more
about
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
get
involved,
because
the
climate
action
climate,
energy
action
plan
is
moving
forward
and
there
will
be
more
workshops
and
public
engagement
related
to
that
as
well
helen.
Any
anything
else
from
you.
I
Oh,
I
think
that
that
page,
you
can
sign
up
for
our
list
serve
and
then
we
will
share
arrangements
for
any
future
workshops,
meetings
or
documents
that
are
developed
on
that
site.
So
I
encourage
people
to
sign
up
and
also,
if
you
didn't,
do
the
survey
yet
that's
where
you
can
go
to
get
a
link
for
that.
D
C
E
And
and
if
you
didn't
take
notes-
and
you
want
to
jot
down
some
more
ideas-
you
want
to
expand
the
ideas,
because
you
know
we
didn't
have
as
much
time
as
we
wanted.
We
seem
to
never
have
as
much
time
as
we
want
with
these
topics
then
go
on
to
the
website
under
the
gpac
section,
and
you
can
download
the
word
document
spend
a
few
days
filling
it
out.
We
asked
you
to
return
it
by
monday
and
then
we'll
create
a
summary
and
send
that
back
out
to
folks.
E
So
apologies
for
running
about
15
minutes
late.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
tonight.
This
was
a
really
great
conversation.
We
hope
you
like
the
format.
We
thought
it
was
pretty
successful,
we'll
think
about
doing
this
for
future
meetings
and
for
those
of
you
who
have
not
joined
in
this
have
had
not
before
tonight
come
to
a
gpac
meeting
or
a
general
plan
meeting
we're
glad
you
were
here
and
please
continue
to
come
in
the
future
and
spread
the
word.