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From YouTube: General Plan Advisory Committee Meeting #8
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A
A
And
you
know
it's
a
very
it's
a
very
challenging
topic
to
talk
about
it's
very
emotional
for
for
a
lot
of
people.
There's
varying
levels
of
knowledge
about
about
what
racism
is
and
what
equity
means.
And
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
really
kind
of
bring
everyone
on
to
the
same
page.
With
with
these
conversations
and
think
about
how
we
can
incorporate
these
concepts
into
the
general
plan,
which,
as
you
all
you
all
know,
is
the
city's
constitution
and
guiding
documents.
A
So
you
know
we,
we
know
that
in
recent
months
there
have
been
lots
and
lots
of
demonstrations
against
police
violence.
These
photos
are
actually
from
thousand
oaks
really.
The
most
recent
was
the
killing
of
george
floyd.
However,
it
clearly,
he
was
only
the
latest
in
a
long
string
of
deaths
that
have
occurred
at
the
hands
of
police
overall
across
the
country
and
again,
I'm
not
pointing
out
thousand
oaks
here.
I'm
just
saying
that
this
is
what's
been
happening
all
across
the
country.
A
These
images
here
are
actually
from
demonstrations
that
were
going
on
in
thousand
oaks,
so
this
is
very
relevant
for
the
city.
Concurrent
with
that
we
have,
we
have
covet,
and
I
you
know
I
know
you-
everyone
has
been
impacted
by
this,
and
everyone
has
been
severely
impacted
by
covid.
Unfortunately,
when
we
have
something
like
a
pandemic,
it
actually
disproportionately
impacts
certain
segments
of
the
population.
A
You
know
in
particular,
these
are
numbers
from
california
for
coveted
deaths
by
race
and
ethnicity,
and
what
we
can
see.
The
green
is
the
percentage
of
deaths
and
the
blue
is
the
percentage
of
the
population,
and
what
we
can
see
is
that
african-americans
and
latinos
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
coveted
deaths
as
well
as
the
as
well
as
those
who
are
infected
by
covid.
So
there's
a
there's,
an
equity
issue
that
we
have
going
on
here.
A
In
addition,
because
of
covid,
we
have
this
incredible
economic
crisis.
That's
going
on
and
extremely
high
unemployment
rates
in
such
a
short
period
of
time,
and
the
unemployment
has
hit
latino
black
and
asian
populations
a
lot
harder
than
it
hit
the
white
populations,
the
national
average
you
can
see
here
in
the
vertical
dotted
line
and
that
latinos,
blacks
and
asians
are
are
all
higher
than
the
national
average
in
terms
of
unemployment
and
so
there's
an
economic
impact.
A
When
we
say
structural
racism,
what
we
mean
is
a
system
of
institutions,
so
institutions
working
together
that
interact
with
one
another
to
generate
and
reinforce
these
inequities.
It
essentially
normalizes
and
reinforces
the
existing
dynamics
that
advantage
white
people
while
producing
cumulative
and
chronic
adverse
outcomes
for
people
of
color.
A
But
if,
if
you
all
remember
when
we
had
the
happy
city
presentation
by
charles
montgomery,
as
he
talked
about
zoning
and
and
the
racism
that
occurs
with
zoning
and
redlining
and
those
are
actually
examples
of
institutional
racism
that
have
happened
over
the
years
and
then
we
think
about
this
question
of
what
is
and
what
is
equity-
and
I
want
to
differentiate
here
between
equity
and
equality,
so
equity
is
when
our
equality
is
when
everyone
gets
the
same
amount.
So,
for
example,
everyone
gets
a
bonus
of
a
hundred
dollars.
A
That
is
equality,
so
everyone
gets
the
same
amount,
but
because
people
are
starting
at
different
levels.
They're
still,
as
you
can
see
in
the
in
the
image
here,
they're
still,
people
are
still
at
at
different
levels
here,
ultimately,
and
what
we
really
want
is
equality,
where
everyone
ultimately
ends
up
at
exactly
the
same
place.
So
everyone
has
what
they
need
for
everybody
to
be
equal
and
that's
really.
What
we're
trying
to
achieve
here
with
the
general
plan
overall
and
and
what
we
try
to
do
in
in
planning.
A
They
were
dealing
with
the
chronic
diseases
and
communicable
diseases,
but
what
we've
realized
is
that,
in
order
to
solve
those
diseases,
we
actually
have
to
look
upstream.
We
have
to
be
like
a
salmon
swimming
upstream
and
actually
deal
with
some
of
these
really
challenging
issues
such
as
the
social
inequities,
the
institutional
inequities
and
the
living
conditions
that
some
people
are
in
and
what
we
do
know
overall
and
as
dr
freeland.
A
So
so
wonderfully
pointed
out
and
eloquently
pointed
out,
there
are
disparities
nationally,
according
to
race,
ethnicity
and
income
that
are
disproportionately
impacting
low-income
people
of
color,
and
that's
really,
this
concept
of
environmental
justice
that
we're
trying
to
get
at
and
really
broadly
what
we're
really
thinking
and
talking
about
and
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
is
healthy
and
equitable
communities,
and
there
are
all
of
these
factors
that
go
into
healthy
and
equitable
communities.
It's
it's
not
just
you
know
it's
not
just
income,
but
but
that
that
matters.
A
A
A
So
what
we
see
is
that
there's
concentrations
of
areas
where
there
is
a
larger
percentage
of
hispanic
populations,
another
term
that
we
have
here
you
know
with
social
determinants
of
health.
Another
indicator
is
the
percent
of
the
population
without
a
high
school
degree,
and
education
is
very
strongly
correlated
with
health
outcomes
because
it
provides
people.
If
you
have
a
higher
higher
the
education,
the
better
access
you
have
to
a
well-paying
job,
the
better
access
you
have
to
health
care,
to
a
quality
place
to
live
to
healthy
foods,
so
to
access
the
parks.
A
And
so
what
we
see
again
is
that
there
are
areas
there
are
census
tracts
in
the
city
where
the
25
to
30
percent
of
the
population
of
the
adult
population
does
not
have
a
high
school
degree,
there's
a
small
area
where
it's
30
to
62
percent.
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
that,
that
one
area,
but
there
are
these
pockets
where
there's
a
large
percentage
without
a
high
school
degree.
Now,
overall
thousand
oaks
is
doing
much
better
than
the
county
and
the
state
as
a
whole.
A
A
The
median
household
income
of
a
household,
the
the
median
is
just
over
105
000,
and
what
we
can
see
here
is
that
black
african,
american
and
hispanic
latino
are
below
the
average
and
then
asian
and
white
white
is
actually
right
at
the
average
in
asian
and
american,
indian
and
alaskan
native
are
are
well
above
the
line.
So
what
we
see
is
again
disparities
in
income
across
the
city.
A
And
then
we
look
at
poverty.
Overall,
I
mean,
interestingly,
the
the
city
does
not
vary
across
very
much
across
racial
and
ethnic
lines,
not
as
much
as
you
can
see
ventura
county
here,
but
there
are
still
pockets
where
you
have
large
percentage.
15
to
20
percent
of
the
population
that
or
higher
that
is,
is
considered
living
in
poverty.
So
again,
these
are
areas
of
social
determinants
of
health
that
we
want
to
look
at
switching
over
to
health
outcomes.
A
Overall,
the
the
city
is
actually
doing
again
doing
really
well,
but
and
and
compared
to
the
state.
The
state
average
is
80.9.
This
information
here
shows
the
county,
and
so
the
county
itself
is
doing.
You
know
overall
really
well
compared
to
the
state
and
the,
but
there
are
disparities
along
again
along
racial
and
ethnic
lines
here,
although
not
as
extreme
as
what
we've
seen
in
other
jurisdictions.
A
A
So
there's
a
bunch
of
areas
here
in
the
city
that
that
have
higher
rates
higher
rates
than
that
than
the
county
but
lower
than
the
state
diabetes
is
another
health
impact
that
we
see,
and
you
know
overall,
the
city
is
doing
much
better
than
the
then
the
state
or
or
essentially
the
county
as
well.
We
have
the
majority
of
the
area
is
less
than
nine
percent
less
than
nine
of
people
per
10
000
who
have
who
have
diabetes.
A
So
again,
the
city
is
doing
really
well
in
this
indicator.
Dr
freeland
mentioned
the
environmental
justice
element
in
environmental
justice
in
the
general
plan,
and
that's
really
our
hook
to
be
able
to
deal
with
these
issues.
In
the
general
plan
in
2016,
the
state
signed,
what's
called
sb
1000,
which
required
community,
which
required
every
jurisdiction
that
has
a
quote
identified
disadvantaged
community
to
to
prepare
an
environmental
justice
element
or
to
address
topics
of
environmental
justice
throughout
the
general
plan.
There's
a
three-step
process.
The
first
is
the
identification
of
disadvantaged
communities.
A
The
second
method
is
to
take
low
income
areas
which
are
80
of
the
state
or
the
county
median
income,
and
we
do
this
by
block
group
and
then
look
individually
at
sources
of
pollution
burden
in
in
the
city
and
that
when
you
blend
the
two
of
those
together,
you
end
up
with
disadvantaged
communities.
So
then
you
take
method,
one
and
method,
two
put
it
together
and
you
identify
what
your
disadvantaged
communities
are
in
the
city
and
what
we
found
when
we
did.
That
analysis
is
that
these
areas
in
red
here
are
identified
disadvantaged
communities.
A
Food
access
in
some
areas
is
also
low.
Interestingly,
the
the
food
access
actually
is
a
little
bit
flipped
here
according
to
to
the
lower
income
and
minority
populations
which
tend
to
occur
along
generally
along
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
the
101
freeway.
That's
where
the
retail
is,
and
so
that's
why
there's
access.
A
A
That
that
we
have-
and
if
you
look
at
the
report,
you'll
see
that
there's
a
lot
of
data
there,
but
overall
I
just
want
to
sort
of
leave
with
a
couple
conclusions
before
we
go
into
what
the
general
plan
can
do
about
this.
The
first
is
that
overall
thousand
oaks
is
a
very
healthy
community.
By
many
many
many
measures,
the
poverty
rates
are
low
overall,
that
it
doesn't
vary
by
race,
ethnicity,
life
expectancy
is
is
overall
really
high.
A
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
process
is
transparent,
fair
and
inclusive.
You
know,
as
you
know,
you
all
have
been
helping
us
trying
to
do
that
with
the
general
plan
update
process
to
reach
out
to
as
many
people
as
we
can,
and
particularly
people
who
are
not
typically
part
of
the
process,
so
we're
we're,
starting
that
we
can
always
do
better
cobin
sort
of
through
wrenching
at
our
engagement.
But
you
know
we
are
doing
that.
The
next
is
distributional,
which
is
a
fairly
distribute
resources.
A
There
are
lots
of
topics
that
we
can
deal
with
when
we're
thinking
about
health
and
equity.
In
the
general
plan
we
went
through
a
series
of
those,
but
the
pedestrian
environment
is
is,
and
bicycle.
Transportation
are
definitely
two
that
we've
heard
from
the
very
beginning
of
the
process
that-
and
they
are,
you
know,
considered
environmental
justice
issues,
access
to
parks,
to
schools
and
to
health
services,
air
and
water
pollution.
A
There
are
certainly
sources
of
pollution
in
the
city,
food
access,
educational
attainment
and
then
social
service
programs
that
address
these
underlying
causes
of
crime
and
address
underlying
causes
of
some
of
the
social
and
environmental
and
health
issues
that
we're
seeing
in
the
city,
and
so
with
you
know
now
I
want
to
kind
of
turn
it
over.
First
to
maybe
we
can
start
with
questions,
and
then
we
can
move
into
a
discussion.
The
discussion
questions
just
to
sort
of
tee
this
up
for
you,
so
you
can
think
about
it.
A
The
first
is
given
the
environment
that
we're
in
given
the
demonstrations
and
covid
have
these
events
and
has
this
time
influenced
your
perspectives
regarding
equity
and
public
health,
and
if
so,
how
has
it?
How
has
that
happened?
The
second
is:
what
are,
what
do
you
think
are
some
of
the
most
critical
health,
equity
and
environmental
justice
issues
that
thousand
oaks
should
deal
with.
A
You
know
we
recognize
that
there
are
very
broad
environmental
issues,
things
that
you
know
dr
flynn
talked
about
going
on
in
north
carolina
and
in
texas
and
other
places,
but
some
of
those
things
may
not
apply
to
thousand
oaks.
So
the
question
is:
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
that
we
can
deal
with
in
thousand
oaks
and
then
overall?
A
A
D
A
So
no
no
questions
and
we
can
keep
asking
you
guys
can
keep
thinking
about
those.
So
let
me
maybe
switch
and
and
go
with
with
maybe
an
easier
topic
to
talk
about,
because
I
know
that
overall
racism
and
equity
is
is
actually
a
really
challenging
topic
for
many
of
us
to
to
talk
about
what
are
the
the
key
topics
or
issues.
You
all
think
the
general
plan
should
address
when
it
comes
to
environmental
justice
and
the
environment
that
we
live
in
and
in
equities.
A
That
is
that's
an
excellent
question,
so
I
think
that
there
are
there's
manufacturing
that
is
happening
over
in
the
biotech
area
that
could
have
impact
and
I
think,
there's
legacy
pollution
there.
There
are
also
lots
of
smaller,
auto
related
dry
cleaners
and
then
transportation,
which
are
also
impacts,
and
if
you
sort
of
see
the
pollution
burden,
there's
a
big
spine
along
the
freeway
along
the
101
freeway,
where
there
is
a
burden
of
pollution
from
from
the
vehicles
passing
through,
but
there
are
also
smaller
businesses.
A
The
the
city
does
not.
You
know
traditionally
have
heavy
industry
with
lots
of
trucks
like
if
you
think
about
the
port
of
los
angeles
part
of
long
beach,
so
there
isn't
that
kind
of
heavy
heavy
industry
or
heavy
vehicles
moving
through.
So
again
you
know.
Overall,
you
know.
While
there
are
disadvantaged
communities
there,
there's
also
a
lot
of
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
good
in
the
city.
There's
a
you
know.
Overall,
from
health
perspective,
it's
a
really
healthy
place
to
live.
A
E
Okay,
hello
hi.
This
is
alicia
well.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
mention
I'd
like
to
thank
you
that
you
mentioned
all
the
social
determinants
of
health.
As
a
nurse,
I
do
believe
that
that
encompasses
every
person's
health.
So
I'm
really
happy
that
you
you
take
all
of
this
into
consideration
and
that's
a
it
is
a
really
great
topic
for
me.
One
of
the
main
issues
I
think
you
have
we
have
to
consider
for
this
environment
justice
is.
We
have
mentioned
housing?
E
Yes,
for
example,
the
the
kovit
19
is
a
great
example
of
how
why
latinos
have
been
affected
the
most
because
they
tend
to
leave
a
lot
of
people
in
one
same
house
so
so
that
kind
of
is
going
to
affect.
If
one
person
gets
infected,
that
more
people
is
gonna,
all
of
all
the
family
is
gonna,
be
infected.
They
don't
have
that
a
lot
of
people.
They
don't
have
benefits
which
they
cannot
work.
E
E
E
E
One
of
the
questions
I
have
is
and
one
of
the
graphs
it
says
the
income
for
latinos
was
83
000.
Yes,
so
I
don't
know
from
I
mean.
Doesn't
honestly
that
doesn't
reflect
the
people?
I
I
a
lot
of
people,
I
know
so
maybe
that's
because
these
people
were
not
going
to,
they
don't
feel
they
didn't
fill
out
the
stencils
or
things
like
that.
But
I
think
that
this
is.
It
doesn't
reflect
what
I
see
in
in
my
community.
A
Thank
you.
Those
are
those
are
great
comments
again.
You're
you're
tying
together
these
core
pieces
of
what
we
do
in
the
general
plan,
with
housing
and
transportation
and
land
use
with
the
issues
that
we're
talking
about
just
really
quickly
in
terms
of
the
the
incomes
that
was
median
household
income
of
a
census
tract.
So
there
are
definitely
in
order
to
have
that
median,
because
we
know
there's
a
lot
of
higher
income
populations.
F
Yeah
and
when
it
comes
to
the
city
of
thousands
dealing
with
environmental
justice,
I
think
you
really
would
have
to
look
at
existing
infrastructure.
You
know,
especially
when
it
comes
to
water,
because
a
lot
of
the
disadvantaged
neighborhoods
they're,
older
they're,
the
housing
is
older.
The
buildings
are
older,
they
are
the
older
neighborhoods
and
those
are
neighborhoods
where
you
know
you
tend
to
have
some
problems
sometimes
and
problems
you
may
not
realize
would
crop
up,
because
in
the
past
you
did
have
building
standards
different
and
not
all
the
time.
F
Future
and
there's
things
we
don't
know
so
as
far
as
especially
with
water,
that
is
where
we
really
have
to
be
careful.
What
we
have
to
look
at,
because
these
neighborhoods
are
they're
old.
I
live
in
one
of
the
the
neighborhoods
on
the
map.
That
is,
you
know
that
is
labeled
as
having
some
disadvantages,
and
you
know
that
is
a
concern
of
mine.
You
know
older
infrastructure,
you
know
what's
going
to
happen
with
that.
What's
going
on,
I
think
we
have
to
really
look
at
that.
G
When
we
look
at
our
racial
disparities
around
homelessness,
we
see
black
and
african
american
people
highly
disproportionately
represented
and
that
population,
and
then
they
end
up
staying
homeless
longer,
not
because
they
don't
have
access
to
services,
but
because
it's
harder
for
them
to
obtain
housing.
And
so
I
think
that's
something
that
is
not
unique
to
thousand
oaks
either
and
and
something
that
we
should
be,
including
in
the
discussion
around
the
general
plan.
A
Thank
you.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up
right
now,
so
maybe
we
can
dive
into
a
couple
of
these
topics
in
a
little
more
detail.
So
taro,
if
talking
about
homelessness
and
equity,
I'm
gonna
put
you
on
the
spot
here,
you
know.
What
is
what
do
you?
What's
your
vision
for
what
what
a
more
equitable
community
would
look
like
when
it
comes
to
housing
and
homelessness
and
alicia,
you
should
jump
in
here
as
well.
Since
you
commented
sorry,
I'm
putting.
G
G
I
feel
like
thousand
oaks
could
be
more
diverse
if
there
was
housing
that
was
accessible
for
all
of
the
people
that
work
in
the
community
and
then
as
far
as
homelessness.
You
know
one
of
the
things
I'm
often
talking
about
is
access
to
services
within
different
cities
in
ventura
county.
One
of
the
things
that
has
been
often
being
discussed
is
you
know.
G
E
Jump
in
well,
a
couple
of
things
before
I
forget
from
the
recent
comment
is
that
when
I
I
know
homeless,
people
have
access
to
different
shelters
or
food.
Different
churches
like
I
think
they
do
have
one
one.
Each
church
have
provides
access
to
them
each
once
a
day
once
a
week,
but
an
issue
is
that
they
don't
have
transportation,
so
sometimes
the
homeless
people.
You
know
they
cannot
go
from
church
to
church
because
it's
they're
far
away
so
they
they.
E
They
don't
have
access
to
those
services
that
are
out
there.
But
that
was
just
one
comment,
but
I
do
agree
on
the
access
to
housing.
To
have
I
mean
apartments
that
are
environmentally
safe.
You
know
there
where
there
is
no
cockroaches
or
you
know,
people
some
of
some
of
the
people
are
going
to
look
for
the
cheapest
places.
E
E
E
So
I'm
just
thinking
how
what
percentage
of
the
houses
that
the
people
own
are
for
rent,
because
if
a
lot
of
houses
are
for
I
mean
people,
buy
them
and
or
own
them,
and
then
they
rent
them
that's
more
like
business
and
then
the
people
that
want
to
buy
new
families
or
people
that
want
to
buy
a
home.
They
can't
because-
and
it's
just
an
idea
that
I
have
like-
I
know
a
lot
of
people
drink-
they
buy
a
house
and
they
rent
it.
E
E
A
I
don't
think
there's
any
city
policies
around
stopping
that
very
few
places
have
policies
like
that,
but
it's
certainly
something
to
look
into
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
numbers.
I
actually
have
a
question
for
you.
While,
while
you
were
asking
well
you're
sort
of
on
on
the
line
here,
what
since
you're
working
in
a
health
clinic,
what
are
the
things
that
you're,
seeing
in
terms
of
health
issues
that
you
think
might
be
related
to
the
environment
that
people
are
living
in
and
so
what.
E
Yeah
I
mean
we,
the
the
most
common
that
the
you
have
mentioned
already
is
diabetes,
high
blood
pressure
and
so
again
like
dr
for
his
name.
Sorry
apologize.
You
know
that
he
mentioned
that
all
because
they
don't
have
access
to
places
to
do
physical
activity
or
they'll
have
the
financial
means
to
to
buy
healthy
food.
E
E
A
A
B
Yes,
sorry,
I
just
wanted
a
quick
follow-up
on
a
minor
point
that
was
made
about
apartments.
I
talked
to
because
I
didn't
grow
up
in
thousand
oaks,
but
I
talked
to
some
lower
income
folks
who
have
grown
up
in
thousand
oaks,
who
I
know-
and
that
was
the
topic
that
they
wanted
to
talk
about-
was
the
lack
of
affordable
housing.
B
They
were
specifically
looking
for
apartments,
and
I
was
like
one
of
them
mentioned
that
it
was
the
point
where
they
could
identify
specific
apartment
complexes
by
name,
because
there
were
so
few
that
they
knew
all
of
them
and
had
looked
at
literally
every
apartment
complex
in
the
entire
city
looking
for
places
to
live
because
they
just
weren't
that
many
options
and
that
that
led
to
the
decision
for
a
lot
of
them
to
actually
leave
thousand
oaks,
because
they
do
not
see
a
place
themselves
here.
Okay
and.
A
B
Thousand
people
can
afford.
Yes,
that's
that
they
did
not
have
established
careers
and
they
didn't
see
a
place
for
themselves
to
even
live
here
and
the
ones
that
did
find
other
alternatives
are
still
cost
burdened,
and
I
have
known
people
who
have
put
off
getting
access
to
health
care
as
a
result
of
having
to
spend
too
much
money
on
rent-
and
you
know-
have
put
off
going
to
hospital
for
a
few
days
because
it
might
go
away.
You
know
I
can't
afford
it.
C
Yeah
I
wanted
to
tag
on
a
little
bit
to
the
conversation
that
was
happening
right
before
nick
spoke
dealing
with
diabetes
and
although
I
don't
fall
into
the
category
of
those
with,
I
think
anytime
people
say
diabetes.
What
they
mean
is
type
2
diabetes.
I
happen
to
have
one
diabetes,
but
I
wanted
to
comment
as
someone
in
the
I
guess.
C
We
could
call
it
world
of
diabetes
that
access
to
healthy
food
is,
I
think,
really
really
commonly
overlooked,
because
most
of
us
in
this
community
are
able
to
just
kind
of
pop
into
our
cars
and
go
get
food
from
places.
But
I
know
that
for
myself
and
my
own
personal
struggles
with
health
associated
with
diabetes,
food
is
kind
of
a
constant
consideration.
It's
always
on
my
mind
and
if
you
told
me
that
I
had
to
maybe
I
couldn't
drive
to
get
the
food
that
I
wanted.
C
I
would
not
be
able
to
eat
the
same.
So
anyone
that's
in
a
low
low
income
situation
that
maybe
walks
to
get
their
food,
which
honestly
walking
to
get
my
food
would
probably
be
better
for
me
in
the
long
run
too,
my
closest
options
would
probably
be
fast
food
and
gas
stations
which
isn't
great,
and
then
I
think
of
where
a
lot
of
the
there's
one
of
my
best
friends
lives
in
apartments
on
to
and
the
closest
place
for
them
to
walk.
Food
is
whole
foods
and
that
doesn't
necessarily
add
up
either.
A
Yeah
well,
and-
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
a
really-
that's
a
really
good
point
and
sort
of
going
back
to
some
of
the
conversations
that
we've
had
in
the
in
the
past.
You
know
that
this
group,
in
particular
the
general
plan
advisory
committee,
when
we
did
our
little
interactive
exercise
about
where
new
uses
should
go
a
lot
of
you
all,
put
kind
of
neighborhood
centers,
where
you
could
walk
and
access
foods
and
also
places
to
hang
out.
So
it's
sort
of
a
common
theme
that
that
I'm
hearing
and
emily.
A
A
A
F
Well,
I
think,
to
some
extent
you
know:
allison
oaks
has
the
zoning
hasn't
been
very
biased
because
thousands
was
incorporated
about
the
same
time
when
the
civil
rights
act
was
passed
and
you
know
redlining
was
was
more
frowned
upon
and
all
that,
so
that
sort
of
thing
isn't
built
into
the
general
plan
or
anything
like
that.
But
at
the
same
time,
because
you
have
persons
of
color
being
you
know
disproportionately
low
income
or
disproportionately
poor
or
just
disproportionately,
you
know,
their
income
is
not
as
high
as
other
groups.
F
I
think
where
that
and
the
food
city
needs
to
work
on
that
is
to
it's
diversify
the
housing
types.
You
know
it's
all
about
multi-family
housing.
Now,
that's
where
you're
going
to
get
more
diversity
and
that's
where
you're
going
to
get
more
people
housed
and-
and
we
pretty
much
know
that
these
big
housing
tracks
that
went
up
in
the
60s
and
70s.
We
know
that's,
not
gonna
happen
anymore,
but
diversification
of
housing
is
one
thing,
and
the
second
thing
is
it
mostly
is
a
it
mostly
comes
from
people.
F
You
know
about
places
like
this
because
I
live
in
thousands
for
21
years
and
a
lot
of
people
when
I
say
that
I
live
here,
people
who
have
never
been
here.
They
have
a
misconception
that
it's
a
very
racist
place
and
that's
not
true,
you
know
every
place
has
some
bias
to
racist
people,
but
it's
not
like
this
is
somewhere
like
oildale
up
in
kern,
county
or
somewhere
like
that
and
those
misconceptions.
F
Don't
help
the
city
at
all,
and
I
do
have
a
problem
with
that
and
you
know
I
went
back
to
santa
barbara
a
couple
of
years
ago.
That's
where
I
was
born,
and
you
know
some
of
my
relatives
and
one
of
them
was
surprised
to
see
me
and
she
said.
Oh
I'm
surprised
to
see
she
was
looking
at
me
kind
of
funny.
Eh,
like
you
know
it
was.
It
was
strange.
It
was
this.
I
was
in
this
affluent
place
and
maybe
as
if
I
thought.
F
F
F
We
have
problems
and
I
think
in
the
general
plan,
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
highlight
that
we,
this
city,
specifically
it
just-
has
to
be
laid
out
that
there's
not
going
to
be
any
unconscious
bias
when
it
comes
to
making
policy.
We
we
play
by
the
rules,
we're
fair
to
everybody
in
whether
you're
a
person
of
color
or,
if
you're,
low
income.
You
have
a
place
here.
I
So
I
have
okay,
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
coming,
I
thought
in
some
ways
one
of
the
things
that
led
thousand
oaks
to
kind
of
meet
the
general
plan
as
and
and
get
to
kids
at
this
point
where
we
are
was
sort
of
knowing
the
history
of
the
sort
of
the
rapid
growth
of
southern
california
in
general,
and
so
in
the
60s
and
70s
and
80s
and
90s,
and
the
2000s
one
of
the
one
of
the
you
know.
I
So
I
think
in
general,
there's
probably
a
you
know,
an
appreciation
for
looking
at
the
opportunities
for
where
multi-family
and
apartment
complexes
could
could
modify
that
mix
a
little
bit.
I
think
the
care
we'd
want
to
make
sure
of
is
to
address
those
in
the
changes
of
where
the
right
places
in
the
city
are
and
not
for
lack
of
a
better
term
break.
I
What
has
really
been
you
know
successful
in
the
city
of
you
know
the
the
nature
of
being
able
to
not
develop
on
the
ridgelines
and
being
able
to
see
you
know
all
the
the
natural
beauty
around
the
city,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
can
do.
We
can
address
those
items
for
more
affordable
housing
mixes,
yet
still
honor.
What's
really
worked
for
us
over
the
past
50
years.
A
D
D
I
just
want
to
make
one
comment
as
well.
You
know
what
you
propose,
there's
an
alternative
to
your
proposal
that
you
introduce
this
whole
conversation
with
say,
for
example,
I
know
it's
difficult
brings
up
an
economic
hard
times,
but
let's
just
say
that
the
corporations
that
are
here
the
high
tech
corporations-
and
I
think,
a
lot
of
this
started
anyway
during
the
defense
industry
during
the
cold
war.
Sort
of
you
know
help
develop
this
whole
area,
but,
let's
just
say
some
corporation
they're,
paying
a
decent
salary.
D
So
the
people
who
can
keep
this
level
of
housing
high
if
they
hire
more
minorities
at
those
high
levels
of
salaries
or
even
if
the
people
who
are
hiring
people
in
the
area
would
pay
more.
Then
you
wouldn't
have
to
think
about
the
decreasing
the
cost
of
housing,
because
people
making
enough
money
to
actually
afford
these
houses.
A
D
D
A
That's
that's
interesting,
I
think
one
of
our
future
meetings.
I
think
it's
in
september,
if
I
remember
correctly,
although
I'm
melissa
can
correct
me,
as
she
always
does,
with
things
that
we
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
community
safety,
more
broadly,
which
which
relates
to
the
demonstrations,
and
so
I
think
we
can.
E
A
That's
wonderful,
that's
great,
to
hear
thank
you
for
for
bringing
that
up,
so
I
want
to
maybe
shift
a
little
bit
and
think
about
it,
just
maybe
instead
of
environmental
justice,
but
think
a
little
bit
more
broadly
about
a
healthy
community
and
what
that
means,
and
a
small
subset
of
you
have
been
speaking
so
far.
But
maybe
I'd
like
to
sort
of
try
and
get
a
broader
group
here
to
participate
when,
when
you
think
about
just
broadly
a
healthy
community,
regardless
of
of
you
know
of
disparities
or
equity.
A
I
Is
why
I'm
raising
my
hand,
so
it
seems
to
me
in
in
any
one
of
these
things,
so
the
environmental
justice
element
is
looks
like
it's
a
brand
new
thing.
It's
something
that
the
state
says
it's
important
for
you
to
take
consideration
in
the
development
of
your
city
and
for
some
of
these
disadvantaged
communities.
I
Can
they
get
to
and
from
the
schools
within
the
community
without
being
overly
burdened?
Can
they
get
access
to
again
healthy
foods
and
access
to
the
other
aspects
of
retail
and
community
parks?
The
open
space?
Can
they
get
to
the
trail
systems
if
they
want
to
get
to
the
outskirts
and
and
be
able
to
take
a
hike
like
everyone
else?
Can
so
identifying
those
elements
of
of
access
to
important,
healthy,
civ
civic
living,
I
think,
are
the
the
important
elements
that
I
can
think
of,
and
that
seems
to
be.
I
You
know
one
of
the
the
things
that
would
be
important
to
list
out
in
that
element.
I
think
one
one
question,
maybe
for
you
in
my
experience,
review
the
general
plan
in
all
of
its
elements,
usually
get
kind
of
focused
on
a
particular
project
and
so
a
project.
May
you
know
we
judge
it
whether
it's
consistent
with
the
general
plan,
but
some
of
these
access
elements
are
more
sort
of
public
programs
that
are
seen
that
the
city
should
invest
in
to
ensure
these
access
elements
are
being.
I
A
Yeah,
so
there
is
that's
a
good,
it's
a
really
good
question,
so
you
know,
interestingly,
the
the
this
concept
of
an
environmental
justice
element
that
the
requirement
for
environmental
justice
element
is
recent.
What
was
happening
way
before
then,
is
healthy
communities
elements,
and
so
that's
why
I
sort
of
broadened
the
question
of
what
is
what
is
a
healthy
community,
because
you
know,
ultimately,
the
the
environmental
justice
element
is
trying
to
make
sure
that
everybody
has
access
to
a
healthy
community,
but
I
think
what
it
what
it
really.
A
What
we
really
want
to
think
about
as
well
is
what
is
a
healthy
community,
and
what
does
that
mean?
And
so
there
are
lots
of
examples
of
communities
that
have
created
just
healthy
communities
elements
and
they
address
disparities
within
that.
But
they
deal
with
topics,
and
you
mentioned
a
lot
of
them.
A
lot
of
it
is
access
and
there
is
a
combination
of
physical
access
of
being
able
to
get
there,
but
also
financial
access
to
it.
A
A
So,
but
it's
really
do
you
have
access
to
the
health
insurance
so
that
you
can
get
the
health
as,
as
nick
had
mentioned,
there's
healthy
foods,
walkability
and
and
safety
bike
ability
living
and
not
putting
you
know,
homes
right
next
to
freeways
just
because
of
the
air
pollution.
So
those
are
a
lot
of
the
topics
that
have
really
been
addressed
and
then,
of
course,
communities
deal
with
specific
issues
that
they
are
that
are
have
big
environmental
justice
and
environmental
health
impacts.
A
So
you
know
los
angeles
deals
with
the
port,
because
that's
a
huge
environmental
issue
oakland
is
dealing
with
the
same
thing.
San
francisco,
so
there's
a
lot
of
issues
related
to
kind
of
specific
topics
within
that
community.
Some
areas
that
have
a
lot
of
industrial.
It's
a
what's
the
the
the
interface
between
residential
and
industrial
and
fresno's.
Dealing
with
that
a
lot
again,
that's
not
as
much
of
an
issue
here
it
is
in
other
parts
of
the
county,
but
it's
not
as
much
of
an
issue
here.
I
And
one
just
quick
follow-up,
I
do
know
from
dr
freeland's
presentation
he
sort
of
mentioned
about
the
cumulative
effects
of
certain
decisions
that
get
made,
and
I
know
at
least
from
the
sequa
analysis
a
lot
of
times
when
it
comes
to
air
pollution
and
traffic,
and
things
like
that
that
that
does
get
weighed.
I
do
remember
that,
but
there
are
some
of
these
elements
that
the
environmental
justice
element
would
address
that
are
a
little
bit
beyond
that
that
are
of
interest.
A
Yeah
I
mean
sequa
definitely
addresses
that,
and-
and
I
just
want
to
sort
of
clarify
a
point
here
which
is
you
know,
I
think
in
sort
of
preliminary
conversations.
We
don't
want
we're,
not
thinking
necessarily
there's
going
to
be
an
environmental
justice
element,
but
we're
going
to
take
these
topics
and
we're
going
to
spread
them
out
throughout
the
elements,
because
it
and
and
think
about
about
health
and
equity.
A
A
H
H
So
I
know
we
have
the
americans
with
disabilities
act
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
those
pieces
that
go
into
construction,
and
you
know
the
things
that
we
do,
but
I
think
you
know
we
can
look
at
that
as
a
minimum
standard.
Those
are
minimum
things
that
we
should
be
doing
so
the
I
guess,
the
the
question
or
the
the
conversation
will
be.
A
H
You
know,
I
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
broader
discussion.
There
there's
there's
a
lot
of
different
different
things.
You
know
there,
people
with
disabilities
aren't
just
you
know
one.
It's
not
one.
Particular
disability
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
that
I
think
have
to
be
in
the
conversation
you
know
from
how
we
we
construct
multi-story
units
to
how
many
we
construct
on
you
know
single-story
units.
So
you
know
the
those
numbers
I
think
have
have
an
impact.
So
that's
just
one
thing
that
I
could
think
of
right
now.
H
I
know
we
do
the
the
curb
cuts
for
wheelchair
accessibility
and
such
on
the
on
the
streets,
but
I
don't
I
don't
know.
I
think
it
would
just
involve
a
deeper
conversation
as
to
you
know,
are
we
really
doing
these
things
as
a
minimum
and
are
we
doing
them
because
they're
required
by
by
law,
or
are
we
really
doing
them
for
accessibility,
okay,.
A
F
Yeah
on
the
point
of
access,
you
know
when
it
comes
to
accessing
healthy
food.
Looking
at
the
map
it,
it
did
show
areas
that
were
disadvantaged,
but
also
you.
I
saw
some
areas
that,
were
you
know,
labeled
disadvantaged,
that
really
aren't
disadvantaged
because
of
access
to
a
car.
You
know
car
ownership
and
all
of
that
in
having
done
some
work
on
the
transportation
committee
and
some
workshops
with
thousand
oaks
transit.
F
One
of
the
things
that
they
take
into
account
is
who
owns
a
car
or
has
access
to
a
car,
because
when
you
break
it
down,
you
know
a
lot
of
that
is
going
to
flip
the
other
way.
Like
you
see,
people
living
like
near
the
boulevard
adjacent
to
the
boulevard,
their
access
looks
better.
You
have
people
living
way
out.
North
ranch,
their
access
looks
really
bad,
but
if
you
bring
in
car
ownership
car
access
that's
going
to
flip
the
other
way.
So
that's
something
that
I
think
we
really
need
to
look
at.
A
Okay,
yeah
and
the
car
ownership
also
relates
to
the
housing
to
the
housing
cost
burden,
there's
actually
a
metric
on
housing
and
transportation
burden
because
owning
a
car
is,
is
so
expensive
to
do
that
it
actually
for
for
people
on
limited
income.
Sometimes
you
have
to
make
the
choice
of
owning
a
car
and
having
that
access
or
having
access
to
healthy
foods
or
after
school
programs
for
kids
or
other
things.
A
Okay,
other
comments,
vision
for
a
healthy
community,
dr
freeland.
What
is
your?
What
kind
of
advice
could
you
give
while
other
people
are
thinking?
What
kind
of
advice
could
you
give
this
group
in
terms
of
things
to
think
about
moving
forward
for
health
and
overall
health,
and
then
in
particularly
equity
and
environmental
justice,
that
you
know
we
as
a
group
should
think
about
for
the
general
plan.
D
Thanks
in
here
yeah,
I
would
think
about
this
open
space
kind
of
concept.
I
know
there's
probably
some
pressure.
You
know
it
may
build
some
apartment
complexes
and
more
complexes
than
you
just
live
in,
but
I
believe
that
open
space
area
in
just
about
every
neighborhood
is
probably
very
important
to
help,
because
you
know
you
can
walk
in
these
areas
and
there's
clean
and
open
air,
and
you
start
to
feel
better.
D
If
you
are
stressed,
for
example,
you
know
you
feel
better
when
you're
walking
in
the
park,
but
the
sidewalks
are
nice,
clean
and
accessible.
Those
are
nice.
You
know
the
neighborhood
is
well
lit
and
sort
of
feel
safe
to
individuals
to
walk
around.
I
think
that's
a
a
also
important
for
a
healthy
living
environment
as
well
and
and
outside
of
you
know,
breathing
you
know
with
clean
air.
You
know
I
would
say
if
you
build
bicycle
pass,
maybe
people
more
people
think
about
riding
the
bus.
Well,
certainly
yeah.
D
We
found
out
during
this
that
they're
the
stages
of
this
environment.
Everybody
had
to
stay
home
and
people
weren't
driving
how
clean
the
air
got.
You
know
all
of
a
sudden,
you
know
wow,
you
know
so
so
I
think,
if
some
kind
of
way
to
do
that
and
then
finally,
you
know
if
people
just
start
those
who
can't
afford
to
start
buying
a
safer
things.
D
E
Thank
you.
So
my
vision
is
to
work
as
a
community.
You
know
the
work
community
has
has
been
in
our
meetings
since
the
very
beginning,
and
I
think
we
are
thankful
for
that,
and
we
want
to
continue
with
that
vision
so,
for
example,
to
work
together
as
a
community
like
if
one
organization
provides
one
thing
and
then
a
different
organization
provides
one
thing
and
the
city
supports
them.
So
you
know
it's
like
it's
like
a
like
a
network
of
supported
services.
E
So
that's
that's
kind
of
my
one
of
my
visions
to
to
have
that.
Keep
the
idea
of
community
work
together
and
yeah.
Just
that's
pretty
much.
Oh
another
thing
I
had
in
mind
was
again:
I'm
thankful
that
you
are
looking
into
the
all
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
as
of
education,
what
are
the
red
areas
that
you
have
in
your
map?
I
recognize
that
area.
E
E
Some
areas
don't
make.
They
may
not
have
access
to
internet
because
maybe
they
can
afford
it.
So
I
don't
know-
and
I
know
public
libraries
have
free
wi-fi,
but
if
the
student
cannot
get
to
the
library,
then
that's
another
issue.
So
I
don't
know
how,
if
the
city
of
that
could
be
taken
into
consideration
at
one
point
providing
wi-fi
again
taking
off
in
equity,
you
know
to
to
those
students
and
that's
just
another
day
that
came
to
my
mind.
Thank
you.
A
H
H
If
we
talk
about
you
know
as
a
whole
as
a
community,
I
think
there
are
to
for
if
we
make
an
effort
to
be
a
wired
community,
whereas
there's
accessibility
throughout
the
entire
city,
I
think
that's
something
that
really
we
should
strive
for,
because
internet
use
is
now
it's
it's.
It's
as
important
as
utility
is
electricity,
so
I
I
think
that's
something
that
we
really
have
to
put
on
the
forefront
where
we're
looking
at
any
developments.
A
And
so
I
think
that's
a
really
important
equity
issue,
and
I
think
you
know
again
it
felt
like
it
felt
like
covet
kind
of
ripped,
the
band-aid
off
of
some
of
these
things.
You
know
to
you
to
use
a
health
medical
term
here,
but
you
know
rip
rip
the
band-aid
off
of
this
and
expose
this
as
a
as
a
real
challenge
for
many
many
communities,
probably
less
so
that
was.
H
For
sure,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
have
taken
it
for
granted
how
easy
is
accessible
for
some
people,
but
now
you
know
that
the
things
have
changed
and
the
environment
that
we're
in
today
is
really
exposing
the
the
challenge
that
that
some
people
have
that
other
people
really
take
for
granted.
So
whatever
we
could
do
in
that
regard,
that
that
can
enhance
the
the
quality
of
life
in
the
city.
For
everybody,
I
think,
is
something
that
we
should
strive
for
great
point.
B
And
I
appreciate
all
the
work
you.
You
have
already
done
to
find
areas
where
there
are
multiple
factors
impacting
people,
and
I
would
just
think
we
need
to
continue
that
sort
of
perspective
going
forward
about
how
looking
at
how
all
these
things
enter
mesh
and
refusing
to
look
at
just
one
item
in
isolation
and
saying
we
fixed
it.
It's
good
and
instead
look
at
where
the
effects
can
compound
upon
each
other.
A
C
A
C
I
have
one
comment
from
the
public
submitted
through
poll
everywhere.
Is
that
a
good
thing
to
share
yeah?
Please?
Okay?
So
regarding
questions
or
comments
for
the
presentation,
this
person
submitted
from
the
information
presented,
it
seems
like
traffic
and
air
quality
are
the
main
issues
that
affect
our
city.
Most.
A
A
In
certain
parts
of
the
city,
there
is
also
kind
of
across
the
city
impaired
water
bodies,
which
is
a
metric
of
sort
of
water
quality
where
the
city
overall
is
not
is
not
doing
well,
but
I
think
that
the
impacts
are
more
specifically
felt
with
the
the
transportation
and
the
air
quality,
so
I
think
the
commenter
is
spot
on
with
that.
With
that
comment,
okay,
public
comments,
michael,
is
this:
you.
B
B
B
A
C
C
I
have
a
few
of
those
that
I
would
like
to
just
mention.
One
would
be
an
ambitious
native
tree
preservation
and
planting
strategy,
which
would
reduce
heat
island
effects
in
the
community
and
also
green
space
enhancement,
which
would
fit
in
with
dr
greenland's
ideas
that
all
of
our
neighborhoods
should
have
easy
access
to
green
spaces.
C
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
rose.
I
just
wanna.
Before
we
jump
on
to
the
go
on
to
the
next
speaker,
we
are
gonna,
have
a
meeting
melissa.
You
can
tell
me
when
it
is
again.
I've
forgotten
whether
it's
the
next
meeting
or
the
meeting
after
that,
where
we
are
to
focus
on
on
climate
change,
sustainability
and
resilience,
and
we
will
address
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
these
ideas
and
more
because
there
certainly
are
more
topics
that
we
can
address,
and
our
team
does
actually
have
a
lot
of
expertise.
A
C
B
C
B
A
A
A
We
may
be
turning
to
you
again
for
for
sage
advice
on
this
topic
and
it's
I
think,
it's
great
to
know
and
that
there's
there
are
resources
like
dr
freeland
who
are
living
or
working
in
the
community
who
can
really
help
us
think
through
these.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
participating
tonight.
I
know
it
was
a.
It
was
a
tough
topic.