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Description
Planning Commission Special Meeting - 6/8/22
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Before
the
planning
commission
has,
the
various
entitlements
are
proposed,
you
have
the
development
agreement,
which
is
specifying
public
benefits
and
improvements.
You
have
a
lot
line
adjustment
to
adjust
property
lines
to
establish
two
reconfigured
lots.
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You
have
a
protected
tree
permit
to
allow
three
oak
trees
and
an
encroachment
permit
for
two
oak
trees
and
two
sycamores.
You
also
have
a
general
plan
amendment
from
commercial
to
commercial
residential.
You
have
a
zone
change
from
c1
specific
plan
22.,
you
have
a
specific
plan
application
to
establish
sp
22
with
specific
specific
development
standards
for
the
project
site.
You
also
have
a
development
permit
to
construct
420
units
for
mixed-use
development
and
also
associated
improvements.
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Okay,
so
the
proposed
project
is
located
on
a
10.97
acre
site.
The
proposed
project
includes
two
podium-style
mixed-use
buildings,
consisting
of
349
residential
units,
15
000
square
feet
of
commercial.
The
project
also
includes
13
three-story
townhome
buildings
and
with
71
residential
units
and
associated
amenities.
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Here's
an
aerial
map
of
the
subject
site,
as
shown
here.
The
project
site
is
bounded
by
hampshire,
road
to
the
east
and
foothill
drive
to
the
south
and
the
west.
The
101
freeway
is
located
to
the
north
and
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
Beyond
the
101
freeway
regional
access
to
the
site
is
provided
from
both
the
101
freeway
and
the
23..
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The
site
currently
contains
a
commercial
shopping
center
which
has
been
vacant
since
2004..
The
vacant
site
consists
of
a
one
story:
approximately
103
000
square
foot,
former
kmart
building
it
has
attached
a
one-story
commercial
building
for
previous
inline
tenants,
a
2,
600
square
foot,
drive-through
restaurant,
including
a
surface
parking
lot.
Hardscape
and
landscaping
are
also
on
the
subject
property
following
kmart's
closure.
Other
commercial
uses
closed
as
well,
leaving
the
site
neglected
since
then.
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Here's
a
view
of
the
western
portion
of
the
project
site
looking
to
the
northwest
from
foothill
drive,
as
is
demonstrated
here,
foothill
drive
sits
approximately
28
feet
higher
than
the
project
site,
which
is
demonstrated
here
on
the
on
the
left
side.
The
picture
on
the
right
is
a
view
of
the
southern
portion
of
the
property.
Looking
east
from
foothill
drive
towards
hampshire
road.
In
this
picture
you
have
the
existing
attached
commercial
building
on
the
left
and
existing
apartments.
On
the
right
hand,
side.
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Here,
a
couple
of
views
of
the
subject:
property
from
the
interior,
these
site
conditions
are
as
a
result
of
15
years
of
site
vacancy
on
the
left
picture
is
a
view
from
the
parking
lot
towards
hampshire.
Road
to
the
east
on
the
right
is
a
view
of
the
northern
portion
of
the
property
looking
to
the
south
towards
the
kmart
building.
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Since
the
project
was
allocated
units
by
the
city
council
in
may
of
2020,
the
applicant
team
took
council
and
staff
and
public
recommendations
and
formally
submitted
a
application
in
2021
with
substantial
revisions
to
the
project.
These
revisions
were
a
result
of
various
talks
with
not
only
city
staff
but
other
city
departments
and
agencies
that
include
ventura,
county
fire
department,
traffic
division.
The
department
of
public
works
to
get
the
project
plans
to
where
they
are
today.
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As
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
know
there
are
various
decisions
made
regarding
the
project.
The
environmental
analysis
is
before
the
planning
commission
tonight
to
consider
and
review
for
a
recommendation
to
the
to
the
city
council,
who
will
be
the
ultimate
reviewing
authority
for
the
proposed
project.
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The
right
term
pockets
are
designed
to
avoid
traffic
conflicts
with
vehicles
accessing
the
site.
These
right
turn
pocket
lanes
provide
access
to
the
subterranean
levels
of
the
parking
structures
which
are
for
residents
only
both
ingress
and
egress
are
provided
to
the
subterranean
level
of
the
parking
structures.
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As
proposed
a
project
will
designate
15
of
the
units
as
affordable
within
the
two
mixed-use
buildings,
which
equates
to
54
affordable
units
by
providing
the
50
affordable
units
in
the
low
income
category.
The
applicant
is
entitled
to
27.5
density
bonus,
which
is
a
maximum
of
91
density
bonus
units
for
this
project.
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The
total
unit
count
of
420
units
is
derived
from
the
329
base
units
plus
the
91
density
bonus
units.
In
addition,
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
dedicate
four
units
for
moderate
income
residents
in
terms
of
regional
housing
needs
and
community
benefits.
The
project
will
add
needed
housing,
both
market
rate
and
affordable
units
for
the
city.
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The
low
income
units
would
include
four
studio
units,
26
one-bedroom
units
and
20
two-bedroom
units.
The
moderate-income,
affordable
units
include
two
studio
and
two
one-bedroom
units.
These
affordable
units
would
be
dispersed
throughout
both
mixed-use
buildings.
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and
b.
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As
far
as
the
mixed-use
building
unit
types,
this
exhibit
here
demonstrates
a
table
on
the
left
that
the
proposed
number
of
units
and
the
unit
type
within
the
mixed
use
buildings
and
also
the
town
home
buildings
in
the
mixed
use
buildings.
You
have
28
studio
units,
184,
one-bedroom
units
and
137
two-bedroom
units.
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The
town
home
buildings
would
provide
twenty
two
bedroom
units,
thirty
two
three
bedroom
units
and
nineteen
four
bedroom
units.
The
graphic
detail
on
the
side
is
the
typical
floor
plan
of
the
of
the
proposed
mixed-use
building.
It
demonstrates
here:
interior,
courtyards,
balconies
and
also
the
units
themselves
within
the
mixed-use
building.
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The
proposed
pacific
plan,
sb
22,
will
establish
specific
specific
development
standards
for
the
subject
development
areas.
The
plan
includes
custom
development
and
design
standards,
permitted
land
uses,
infrastructure
requirements,
implementation
measures
and
other
criteria
intended
to
implement
the
general
plan.
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In
terms
of
the
protected
trees
for
the
proposed
project,
the
product,
the
proposed
project
does
include
the
removal
of
three
oak
trees
and
also
the
encroachment
into
the
protected
zone
of
two
california
sycamore
trees
and
two
oak
trees,
as
shown
here
in
this
exhibit
in
yellow.
You
have
the
two
mixed-use
buildings:
building
a
and
building
b,
the
red
circle
is
demonstrating.
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The
proposed
removal
of
an
oak
tree
at
building
a
for
the
subterranean
parking
garage
and
the
mixed
use
building,
and
then
you
have
in
the
in
the
blue,
is
the
the
the
townhome
building
that
would
require
removal
of
two
oak
trees
identified
there
in
the
two
red
circles
along
foothill
drive
these
two,
those
two
oak
trees
are
located
along
the
parkway
on
foothill
drive.
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And
then
you
have
the
green
circle
on
the
bottom
of
the
of
the
exhibit
here
on
the
slope
on
the
western
portion
of
the
property
that
would
have
encroachments
that
are
due
to
the
paseos
and
the
hardscaping
associated
with
the
project
and
then
in
the
hash
green
on
the
left.
Bottom
left
side
is
the
off-site
oak
tree.
That
would
also
be
encroached
on
by
the
proposed
improvements.
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You
also
include
metal,
awnings
above
the
windows
for
the
proposed
project.
The
residential
buildings
are
architecturally
compatible
with
mixed-use
buildings
in
the
surrounding
properties.
This
architectural
design
was
substantially
modified
since
the
project
was
first
brought
before
the
council
in
2020.
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The
mixed-use
buildings
along
hampshire,
road
incorporate
varying
wall
projections,
extensive
building,
articulation,
recessed
building
levels
and
open
courtyards
that
overlook
hampshire
road.
The
intent
of
this
architectural
design
is
to
reduce
the
massing
and
the
scale
of
these
mixed-use
buildings
along
hampshire
road,
while
maintaining
a
visually
and
interesting
and
attractive
design
for
the
project.
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As
far
as
the
design
quality
for
public
exterior
space,
the
proposed
project
does
include
a
large
public
two
large
public,
plazas
and
paseos,
which
encourage
pedestrian
connectivity
and
activity
and
provide
opportunities
for
the
public
to
gather
and
the
actual
residents
to
enjoy.
The
fifteen
thousand
square
feet
of
commercial.
Exterior
spaces
include
elevated
terraces
rooftop
decks
and
at
the
entrance
of
the
project,
which
served
to
provide
different
opportunities
for
these
residents
to
gather
at
the
project
site.
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Here's
another
photo
simulation
of
the
project
on
the
top
left
is
a
view
of
the
project
looking
west
from
the
project
entrance,
as
shown
here,
the
interior
roads
are
designed
in
a
manner
to
create
pedestrian
friendly,
active
areas.
The
photo
simulation
on
the
bottom
on
the
bottom
right
is
of
the
proposed
dog
park.
The
concept
has
ample
public
gathering
spaces
which
will
benefit
future
residents
and
the
community
in
general,
including
public
access
to
the
dog
park
at
the
south
east
of
the
subject,
property.
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All
landscaping
plans
shall
demonstrate
compliance
with
the
state
of
california
model,
water
efficiency,
landscape,
ordinance
and
prior
to
issuance
of
a
grading
permit
and
any
building
permits.
A
complete
set
of
landscape
plans
and
irrigation
plans,
reflecting
compliance
with
all
of
these
imposed
conditions
and
requirements
for
these
entitlements
shall
be
submitted
under
separate
permit
for
review
and
approval
by
the
city.
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So
here
you
have
a
couple
of
views
of
the
trails
and
open
space
to
the
southwest.
The
trail.
Access
to
los
robles
trail
is
located
approximately
150
feet
to
the
southwest
of
the
site
along
foothill
road,
which
provides
access
to
to
the
los
robles
trail
based
on
these
surrounding
characteristics.
The
proposed
project
is
compatible
with
surrounding
development
and
suitable
for
the
proposed
mixed-use
development,
as
it,
you
know,
intends
to
provide
some
enhanced
connectivity
with
not
only
on-site
but
with
surrounding
properties.
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Where
you
have
the
proposed
townhome
apartments
on
the
western
portion
of
the
property,
there
is
a
retaining
wall
at
the
western
portion
of
the
site
that
ascends
about
25
feet
up
to
foothill
drive
to
the
west.
The
townhome
apartment
buildings
are
three
stories
with
an
average
height
of
not
of
no
more
than
35
feet.
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So
here's
a
close-up
of
that
cross-section
of
the
mixed-use
podium-style
building
this
section
demonstrates
the
podium-style
mixed-use
design
with
the
mixed-use
building
and
interior
courtyards
above
the
proposed
parking
structure.
This
section
also
demonstrates
the
mixed-use
buildings
facing
hampshire
road,
which
provide
a
staggered
facade.
Design
facing
hampshire
road
on
the
first
level
is
a
commercial
component.
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This
is
a
roof
plan,
demonstrating
the
substantial
changes
to
the
project's
design,
since
it
was
before
the
city
council
in
may
of
2020,
as
demonstrated
here
in
the
dash
red
line,
is
where
the
previous
massing
of
the
fourth
floor
was
prior
to
the
changes
that
were
done
on
the
project.
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So
now
you
have
a
again
a
a
staggered
four
floor
setback
ranging
between
30
to
80
feet
and
now,
as
far
as
the
environmental
review
process
that
has
gone
for
this
project,
staff
did
have
a
kickoff
meeting
with
the
with
the
with
the
eir
consultant
back
in
july
of
2021.
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The
purpose
of
the
scoping
meeting
was
to
gather
input
from
various
stakeholders
and
get
feedback
on
the
environmental
analysis
that
would
be
conducted
on
the
project
on
the
project
and
then
thereafter
the
draft
dir
was
circulated
for
public
review
from
april
11
2022
through
may.
25Th
of
2022.
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It
is
very
common
for
cities
to
approve
a
project
with
significant
and
unavoidable
impacts,
depending
on
the
size
and
scope
when
the
project
has
a
lot
of
significant
benefits.
In
this
case,
the
proposed
development
and
specific
plan
benefits
include
revitalizing,
a
neglected
commercial
center
economic
investment,
new
housing
opportunities
for
more
affordable
housing.
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These
public
benefit
deliverables
include
affordable
units
site
improvements,
certain
number
of
residential
units
for
the
project,
open
space
and
also
commercial
uses.
If
the
project
is
approved
and
constructed
as
planned,
the
city
would
have
an
additional
366
market
rate
units
and
54
affordable
units
to
his
residential
stock.
F
With
that
being
said,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
what
the
city's
general
plan
has
proposed.
The
project
is
consistent
with
sp,
22
and
applicable
city
standards
and
policies.
The
proposed
project
is
compatible
with
surrounding
land
uses.
F
B
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
presentation.
Mr
contreras,
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
we'll
get
into
low
income
units
are
any
of
the
low-income
units
in
the
in
the
townhouses.
Are
they
all
in
the
mixed-use
buildings.
F
As
proposed
right
now,
all
the
affordable
units
are
in
the
mixed
use
component:
okay,.
G
F
The
low
income
units
are
proposed
with
26
one
bedroom,
affordable
units.
Two,
how
many
two
bedrooms?
The
two
bedroom
is
20
20.
20.
G
Units
for
two
bedrooms
at
low
income-
okay,
I'm
just
curious-
because
obviously
children
are
a
component
of
people
who
don't
necessarily
have
the
income
and
income
requirements
increase.
So
I
was
just
curious
how
family
friendly
this
is
going
to
be
for
for
that
for
that
element,
I
appreciate
that
the
other
question
I
had
was:
do
we
have
a
the
size
of
the
dog
park?
How
many
square
feet
are
this.
F
I
do
just
give
me
one
second
I'll
get
that
for
you.
No
problem.
G
I
Thank
you,
chair
newman,
mr
contreras,
thank
you
for
your
report
and
and
all
the
staff
by
the
way
this
was
for
us
thousands
of
pages.
I
have
no
doubt
that
it
was
tens
of
thousands
of
pages
for
all
of
you,
but
we
went
through
everything
and
I
have
some
just
some
kind
of
very
specific
questions.
Then
I
want
to
kind
of
go
through
an
outline
of
my
mentality,
so
make
sure
I
understand
the
issues
and
make
sure
everybody
kind
of
gets
the
same
process
that
I
go
through
initially
measure
e
units.
F
Yes,
they
are
the
329
measure
units
that
are
allocated
for
this
proposed
project.
That's
the
total
unit
count.
H
That
is
correct,
commissioner
lansin.
The
measuring
units
are
above
and
beyond,
are
the
density
bonuses
units
are
above
beyond
the
measuring
units.
The
measuring
units
are
the
capacity
based
on
the
1996
general
plant
capacity,
anything
above
that
when
they
provide
affordable
units,
it's
an
incentive
for
them
to
provide
the
developer
to
provide
for
affordable
units,
so
it
doesn't
count
towards
the
measuring
balance.
I
And
I
know
previously:
we've
had
some
applications
that
didn't
take
advantage
of
that,
but
this
one
does
how
many
measure
units
would
we
have
left
after
this
application?
To
the
extent
these
units
were
granted?
If
you
know
there
are
55
units
left,
okay,
so
a
little
bit
not
a
whole
lot.
One
question
I
had
from
actually
somebody
in
the
community
is:
we
went
through
a
very
long
zoning
process
as
part
of
the
general
plan
update.
I
F
I
Then
just
a
few
more,
I
know
we
have
others,
but
my
usually
starting
point
is
always
what's
the
code
say
in
terms
of
that
mentality,
so
I
want
to
kind
of
real
briefly
get
an
idea
of
the
the
our
code
versus
what
they're
asking
for
here.
To
make
sure
I
understand
what
those
differences
are
and
then,
if
there's
discretion,
I
understand
obviously
the
trees,
there's
protected
trees,
you've
identified
the
three
that
would
be
removed
and
what
would
be
replaced.
I
F
The
applicant
team
did
take
into
consideration
the
recommendations
that
feedback
could
receive
from
council
and
at
this
point
now,
yes,
the
project
has
been
reduced
in
height
because
of
that
increased
four-floor
setback
significantly
reduced
the
massing
and
scale
of
the
building
and
as
part
of
the
methodology
of
the
average
height
for
the
buildings,
we
got
the
adjacent
grade
height
and
then
we
took
these
particular
massings
of
the
building
and
then
got
the
average
from
there.
And
at
no
point
does
the
building
exceed
more
than
approximately
50
feet
in
height,
okay,.
H
H
If
I
can
just
expand
sure
this
project,
it
falls
under
the
c1
zoning
category
right
now,
as
it
stands,
the
c1
zoning
category
does
accommodate
mixed
use
developments,
so
the
proposed
specific
plan
will
establish
unique
development
standards
for
this
specific
geographic
area,
and
this
geographic
area
will
have
height
setback
or
height
requirements
and
setback
requirements
that
are
not
typically
aligned
with
the
underlying
zoning
that
was
there
before,
but
specifically
in
place
for
this
proposed
use.
So
in
this
case
we
do
have
a
commercial
residential
project.
H
The
standards
are
designed
to
interface
with
each
other,
so
you
have
two
projects
that
are
symbiotic
and
work
together,
and
the
development
standards
that
are
established
in
the
specific
plan
establish
that.
So
that's
the
compliance
is
really
with
a
specific
plan
and
not
with
the
underlying
municipal
code.
H
F
Yeah
again,
the
sp
22
did
establish
the
proposed
parking
requirements
and
ratios
the
applicant
team
as
they
prepared
this
the
specific
plan.
They
did
look
at
the
sb
22,
which
is
a
thousand
oaks
specific
plan
to
provide
similar
ratios
to
that
to
that
sp
20
1000
specific
plan,
because
it's
you
have
a
mixed
use,
components
and
buildings
that
are
proposed
within
that
specific
plan.
So
the
applicant
team
took
some
of
those
parking
ratios
to
establish
this
sp
document.
I
I
I
know,
and
I've
gotten
I'm
sure,
we've
all
gotten
some
comments
with
regard
to.
Why
are
we
looking
to
build
more
housing
when
we
have
no
water?
What
would
be
the
answer
to
that
issue?.
J
Yeah,
I,
commissioner,
if
I'd
like
to
expand
on
that
item.
Certainly
that
is
a
concern
right
now
with
the
statewide
water
restrictions
that
are
prevalent
primarily,
however,
for
the
southland
area.
Those
restrictions
are
not
for
health
and
safety
and
interior.
You
know
essential
use
for
the
residents
of
the
state
of
california,
they're,
more
focused
on
non-essential
and
ornamental
turf
and
those
types
of
outdoor
uses.
J
In
fact,
in
the
canal
valley,
here,
70
percent
of
water
uses
outdoor
water
use,
and
much
of
that
is,
you
know
unused
and
just
ornament
ornamental
non-native
plants
and
turf
and
so
forth.
So
that's
the
focus.
The
state
has
different
priorities
and
they've
they've
prioritized
new
housing
over
that
of
the
water
conservation.
J
So
you
know
we're
trying
to
balance
all
that
and
meet
the
requirements
we
still
have
and
at
the
same
time
the
city
has
to
provide
the
means
for
housing
to
be
provided
for
those
existing
residents
and
workers
who
live
in
town
here
and
their
their
families
and
their
children
as
they
grow
and
become
working
adults
and
looking
for
their
own
housing
stock.
So
it's
a
balancing
act.
What
I
do
know
is
that
the
new
housing
uses
significantly
less
water
than
the
older
traditional
housing
products
that
dot
the
city
currently
so.
I
And
by
the
way,
I
would
note
to
the
public
I
still
walked
around
during
the
week
and
saw
people
watering
during
the
week.
So
please
follow
the
rules,
so
there's
a
balancing
that
we
have
to
do
in
terms
of
the
state
rules
as
to
housing
versus
what
we
can
do
with
regard
to
water
conservation
today.
Is
there
any
limitation
that
we
have
as
planned,
commissioners
to
say
no
new
building
based
upon
state
water
laws.
I
And
last
question-
and
I
know
I'm
taking
too
long-
is
traffic.
I
know
the
vmt
information
and
the
report
indicated
it
was
within
ranges
but
again
explain
exactly
how
that
compares
with
our
current
code
just
to
make
sure
we're
all
in
the
same
mentality.
J
That
is
correct
so
that
new
analysis
that's
being
performed.
Statewide
is
the
vmt
vehicle
miles
traveled,
and
this
proposed
project
has
a
lower
vmt
than
the
city-wide
average
for
this
particular
area,
and
that
makes
sense
because
of
the
on-site
amenities
and
the
on-site
retail
element,
as
well
as
the
proximity
to
the
freeway
and
so
forth.
So
this
site
is
not
located
at
the
far
edge
of
the
city
and
so
forth.
J
J
Well,
that
traffic
analysis
was
done
as
part
of
the
environmental
review
for
the
project,
so
that's,
essentially
it
there
was
modeling
done
and
so
forth,
and
the
traffic
that
is
forecasted
to
be
generated
from
this
project
is
slightly
less
than
that
of
the
previous
use.
That
was
at
the
site
there.
If
you
add
the
kmart
and
all
the
other
local
attachments
and
restaurants
and
so
forth,.
I
L
Yes,
thank
you.
I
have
a
few
questions,
hopefully
not
too
many,
hey
on
trees,
number,
six
and
seven
that
were
on
the
tree
report.
If
I
read
this
correctly,
they
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
encroached
upon
and
they're
at
a
level
d
right
now.
Does
that
mean
if
they're
encroached
upon
they're
likely
to
fail.
F
Yes,
according
to
the
tree
report
that
was
provided
for
the
project
and
also
in
conversations
with
the
city's
tree
consultant
staff
did
verify
based
on
these
trees.
Health
survival
rates
for
transplanting
would
not
be
something
that
would
be
considered
for
this
proposed
project.
F
Well,
those
two
trees
are
just
going
to
be
encroached
on
by
the
hardscaping
and
the
paseos
right,
so
based
on
the
minimal
amount
of
hardscaping
and
impacts
that
are
associated
to
those
encroachments,
it
appears
that
the
trees
would
survive
would
not
be
impacted
and
there
would
be
no
loss
or
of
any
tree
there.
L
K
I
may
add,
if
I,
if
I
may,
just
that,
because
of
the
encroachment
we
do
have
requirements
for
encroachments,
such
as
using
hand
tools
when
you're
near
roots
and
all
those
actions
that
we
have
as
part
of
the
permit
and.
I
K
Are
monitored
as
well
because
we
are
trying
to
avoid,
I
know
we're
encroaching
but
we're
trying
to
avoid
any
impact
like
you
were
suggesting
or
concerned
about.
I
should
say
and
then,
of
course,
if
someone
were
to
take
action
by,
for
example,
by
accident,
they
have
a
machine
that
gets
out
of
control
and
they
hit
the
tree.
You
know
they're
going
to
be
responsible
for
me.
You
know
fixing
that
or
re
replacing
that
as
well.
K
So
again,
it's
something
that,
with
encroachments
we're
following
a
policy,
that's
going
to
ensure
or
take
action
to
limit
the
the
exposure
of
the
trees
that
are
being
encroached
upon.
L
L
Okay
and
my
my
question
as
a
whole
is
there's
big
slope
from
one
part
of
the
property
to
the
back.
Is
it
as
it's
going
to
be
stepped
up?
Is
that
the
way
it's
going
to
be
handled.
F
Yes,
there
is
an
ascending
slope
from
hampshire,
road
right
towards
the
western
portion
of
the
property
based
on
the
project
plans
and
the
civil
plans
are
provided.
There
would
be
some
grading
that
would
be
proposed
for
the
subterranean
parking
structures.
So
you
would
have
hampshire
road,
an
ascending
access,
driveway,
and
then
you
would
have
it
leveled
out
as
you
get
towards
the
rear
of
the
property.
L
Okay
and
then,
let's
see
my
other
question
here,
okay,
so
when
we
were
discussing
the
boutique
hotel
in
newbury
park,
they
talked
about
the
time
frame
between
phase
one
and
phase
two.
Is
there
a
time
limitation
put
in
here
for
phase
one
and
phase
two.
K
So
and
speaking
to
the
applicant,
they
can
speak
about
this
more
detail
when
they
come
and
do
their
presentation.
We
are
permitting
two
phases,
but
they
have
stated
to
us
that
it's
it's
really.
K
It's
like
a
pseudo
two
phases.
They
plan
to
continue
to
work,
they're
not
going
to
stop
work
on
one
phase
and
then
wait
for
a
while
and
then
start
a
second
phase.
It
is
continual
but
to
ensure
that
they
might
be
able
to,
for
example,
start
renting
some
of
the
buildings.
If
they
want
to
do
the
townhomes,
for
example,
they
wanna
they
cannot
do
that
if
it's
one
face
because
they
have
to
complete
the
entire
project.
So
if
you
put
in
two
phases
and
and
they
make
that
decision.
K
Want
to
try
that,
then
that
would
have
to
be
completed
and
then
they
could
they're
continuing
to
move
with
the
second
phase.
So
that's
why
we're
just
to
be
uncautious
where
the
da
says
has
to
be
two
phases
and
with
that
said,
they
have
a
timeline
for
the
project
as
a
whole,
and
so
because
this
is
a
very
large
project
and
the
majority
of
that
would
be
technically
in
the
second
phase.
If
we
were
going
to
call
them
phases,
that
would
be
something
they
would
have
to
continue
forward.
K
So
I
think,
for
your
question
of
making
sure
timing
is,
is
important.
Certainly
the
applicants
get
a
I'm
sure
state
to
you
quite
clearly
that
they
plan
to
do
this
all
at
one
time,
with
maybe
a
pause
for
the
townhomes.
L
Okay,
I
think
I
had
one
more
question.
Oh,
is
the
in
the
commercial
area?
Is
there
going
to
be
a
spot
for
pickup
and
drop
off
of
lyft
and
uber
and
those
kinds
of
companies.
F
E
K
Correct
they
wanted
that
that
flexibility,
which
is
yeah
exactly
I
mean
it's,
it's
going
to
be
after
them,
but
they
were
very
adamant
that
they
plan
to
continue
moving
forward
with
it.
And
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
call
for
them
to
make
once
it's
moving
forward,
as
does
it
make
sense
for
them
to
to
open
those
up
or
not,
but
to
your
excellent
point,
it's
certificate
of
occupancy
or
or
the
last
permit
required
in
the
last
building,
inspection
required
to
open
up
that
first
phase.
If
they
want
to
do
that.
E
Zoning
clearance,
what
have
you
correct,
whatever
the
terminology
would
be,
mr
congress,
thank
you
for
the
very
comprehensive
presentation.
E
As
far
as
the
the
parking
situation
is
concerned,
the
subterranean
parking
garages
have
no
connectivity
to
the
for
lack
of
a
better
term
street
level
parking.
Is
that
correct.
F
F
Commissioner
link,
that
is
correct
and
we
will
be
working
with
the
applicant
team
and
also
the
department
of
public
works
at
any
post-approval
process
to
make
sure
that
all
the
correct
signage
is
there.
Okay,
excellent.
E
Oh
follow-up
questions
so
and
speaking
from
my
own
personal
experience
with
the
with
my
city's
development
code,
we
have
for
arterial
streets.
There
is
a
minimum
spacing
distance
for
driveways
on
arterial
streets.
I
couldn't
find
anything
in
the
thousand
oaks
municipal
code.
Is
that
does
that
exist
or
is?
J
Yeah
we
have
a
myriad
of
requirements-
a
commissioner
lincoln,
particularly
with
you
know,
spacing
of
traffic
signals
and
intersections
and
so
forth.
As
for
the
proximity
of
a
driveway
to
an
intersection,
I
I'm
not
certain.
If
we
have
that
requirement,
I
mean,
and
in
many
cases,
for
instance,
that
gas
station
on
the
corner,
those
driveways
right
at
the
intersection
and
so
and
that's
unavoidable
in
many
cases,
so
I
there
may
not
be
a
spacing
requirement
for.
For
that
reason,.
E
I'm
thinking
more
along
the
lines
of
contiguous
driveways
on
for
for
the
same
project
frontage.
Obviously
you
can't
when
you
have
a
corner
lot
on
a
for
a
gas
station.
You
can't
really
get
away
with
it,
not
having
a
driveway
adjacent
to
a
traffic
signal
or
something
else
like
that.
But
as
far
as
contiguous
driveways
are
concerned,
there's
there's
no
requirement
or
restriction
as
to
how
many
they
can
put
in
on
a
project
frontage
or.
O
H
B
Thank
you
I'll
begin,
my
questions
covering
the
development
agreement,
as
I
understand
from
the
staff
report
and
the
agreement
itself,
the
agreement
caps,
the
fees
or
or
says
that
the
fees
that
the
applicant
will
be
paying
to
the
city
will
not
increase
over
time
and,
as
I
understand
it,
the
fees
cover
things
like
build.
Building
fees
permits
that
that
sort
of
thing
my
question
is:
if,
if
there
are
any
one
is,
are
there
any
long,
long-term
fees
and
two?
K
So
the
short
answer
is
that,
as
part
of
the
development
agreement,
the
reason
why
developers
and
cities
enter
into
an
agreement
is
there's
a
there's
benefits
to
both
sides,
and
one
of
those
is
to
freeze
certain
development
fees
to
the
current
rate.
So,
for
example,
in
this
case,
if
they
were
to
build
tiers
later
and
for
some
reason,
our
development
fees
increase
they're,
going
to
be
able
to
take
the
benefit
of
having
this
and
presenting
this
project
and
going
through
all
the
process
to
have
a
project.
K
At
this
time
and
and
through
the
development
agreement
which
again
gives
the
city
benefits
too
they're
able
to
freeze
those
fees
and
so
for
for
the
standard
development
fees
that
we
would
have.
Those
are
going
to
be
frozen
to
the
current
rate
and
that's
again
part
of
the
bargain,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
want
to
do
those
things
and
and
invest
in
this
kind
of
large
development.
B
K
A
major
benefit
for
a
developer
that
they're
going
to
demand
just
because
they're
trying
to
ensure
that
they
know
what
their
costs
are
going
to
be
for
the
for
the
project
as
a
whole,
and
so
a
project
might
not
start
for,
and
obviously
you
can
understand
with
the
way
some
of
the
world
is
right
now,
with
construction,
materials
and
and
and
labor.
It
might
not
start
for
a
period
of
time
and
so
to
ensure
that
they
can
pencil
out.
B
Moving
on
to
the
affordable
component
of
the
of
this
application,
and
just
so
we're
clear
on
terminology
when
we
say
low
income
here
we
are
not
talking
about
people
in
desperate
poverty,
currently
using
the
revised
2022
standards
in
ventura
county,
we're
talking
about
a
household,
a
family
of
four,
with
a
household
income
in
excess
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
B
So
that's
what
we
mean
when
we
say
low
income
right
now.
As
I
understand
it,
there
are
approximately
12
percent
of
the
units
on
site
are
designated
for
low
income
or
housing,
and
my
question
is
a
process.
One
is
how
did
the
city
in
negotiating
with
the
applicant?
How
did
you
arrive
at
the
determination
that
12
percent
was
a
suitable
level.
F
Staff
did
not
arrive
at
that
determination
based
on
the
unit
count.
The
proposed
project
of
420
units,
the
applicant
team,
looked
at
their
the
total
base
units
that
are
allowed.
They
looked
at
the
density,
bonus
law
and
included
the
amount
of
affordable,
that's
required
in
order
to
achieve
their
91
density
bonus
units
and
in
a
way,
and
they
can
discuss
this
a
little
bit
further,
but
in
a
way
they
believe
that
they
reverse
engineered
it
to
be
able
to
provide
the
91,
affordable.
Sorry,
91
density
bonus
units.
B
H
Yeah
during
the
negotiation
process
measuring
units
are
very
valuable,
as
everyone
understands
it's
a
negotiation
tool
for
us.
In
a
sense
we
can
work.
The
applicants
to
get
community
benefits
that
are
are
some
in
different
ways
and
in
this
case
there's
a
number
of
ways
but
affordable
housing
is
one
of
them
and
they
came
up
with
the
13.
Generally,
we
look
about
13
to
15,
as
the
number
that
we
shoot
for
the
applicant
came
back
afterward
after
providing
the
their
initial
number
and
provided
four
more
units
through
the
process.
H
So
we
have
54
total,
affordable
units
which
is
well
above
the
minimum
standard.
They
could
have
used
to
get
their
density
bonus,
so
they
have
been
above
and
beyond
the
minimum
requirement
based
on
state
law
to
get
these
additional
units,
so
they
actually
increased
it
by
about
13
or
so
to
get
this
number.
This
new
number
so
they're,
providing
way
much
more
in
the
affordability
component
than
they
were
required
to.
B
And
and
when
you
say
13
just
so
we're
clear
on
the
math
here,
I
presume
you're,
dividing
54
into
420
total
is
that
which
is
13
percent.
B
Yeah
and-
and
here
there's
some
funny-
I
don't
want
to
call
it
funny
math,
because
the
math
is
correct,
but
but
there's
a
technical
calculation
where
you
have
a
base
number
of
units
which
is
329
and
then
and
then
you
get
a
density
bonus
on
top
of
that,
but
the
affordable
calculation
is
on
the
base
number
to
the
general
public.
I
hope
you
can
understand.
B
K
So,
if
I
may
add
chair-
because
I
do
it
was
part
of
the
negotiation
as
well,
so
when
a
developer
wants
to
apply
density
bonus,
they
have
options.
K
K
If
you
remember
the
whole
the
apartment
complex,
that
was
on
canada,
school
road,
it
was
a
30,
it
was
one
acre
and
they
could
do
30
units,
but
he
did
three
very
low
units
for
affordable
right
and
he
got
10
extra
units
because
of
the
density
bonus
on
state
law,
and
so
when
we
presented
this
to
the
pre-screening
council.
K
Initially,
this
was
a
plan
for
doing
41,
affordable
units
and
council
made
their
comments
and
one
of
those
comments
obviously
registered
with
the
staff
and
with
the
applicant,
and
they
chose
to
okay,
let's
add
more
affordable
and
then
in
the
negotiation
for
the
development
agreement,
we
were
able
to
negotiate,
and
this
is
again
presented
to
you
and
then
presented
to
city
council,
an
additional
four
moderate,
affordable
units
and
again
they're
still
affordable.
K
They
count
to
our
arena
numbers
and
I
think
it's
important
that
that
was
something
that
was
an
extra
that
we
negotiated
so
again.
They
they've
listened
to
council
to,
in
our
opinion,
they
were
very
cooperative
in
discussing
these
issues
and
then
based
upon
that
they
went
forward
and
said:
okay,
instead
of
41
we're
going
to
go
to
50..
How
do
we
make
that
math
work
for
the
density
bonus
for
them
to
make
it
pencil
out
and
then
again
the
additional
four
that
we
discussed
as
part
of
the
da.
B
B
It
says
that
there
are
infrastructure
for
ev
charging,
it
doesn't
necessarily
say
there
are
chargers,
and
I
think
it's
safe
to
predict
over
the
lifetime
of
this
project
that
a
significantly
higher
percentage
of
cars
over
time
will
will
be
battery
electric
vehicles
that
need
charging.
H
The
infrastructure
just
means
that
the
infrastructure
for
the
ev
charging
stations
need
to
be
installed
and
that's
required
by
the
green
green
building
codes.
There's
a
minimum
requirement
there,
but
the
applicant
has
indicated
they're
willing
to
provide
more
and
meet
essentially
what's
lead
gold
on
this
project.
H
B
B
Okay,
so
I
drove
some
distances
around
the
project
site.
The
two
closest
supermarkets
are
both
more
than
a
mile
away.
The
closest
park
where
kids
could
throw
a
ball
around
is
about
a
mile
away.
B
There's
some
references
made
during
this
hearing
about
a
goal
of
sp
22
is
to
be
more
pedestrian
friendly
and
to
make
to
make
this
a
more
walkable
project
and
that's
a
general
goal
of
the
city.
So
the
question
here
is:
if
we're
expecting
people
to
drive
at
least
a
mile
to
a
supermarket
or
to
a
park
and
we're
adding
3
600
new
car
trips.
How
is
this
more
pedestrian,
friendly
and
walkable.
F
Commissioner,
newman
thanks
a
lot
for
that
question.
Based
on
the
project
site
characteristics
staff
took
the
proposed
concept
into
consideration,
as
we
reviewed
the
project
initially
through
the
rca
process
and
surrounding
properties.
The
proximity
to
the
thousand
o
specific
plan,
the
nearby
trails
you
have
existing
bicycle
infrastructure
nearby.
You
have
an
existing
bus
station
at
the
corner
of
foothill
and
hampshire
road.
F
So,
based
on
these
factors
and
and
the
proposed
mixes
design
with
increased
and
enhanced
connectivity
within
the
interior
of
the
site,
it
does
provide
for
enhanced
pedestrian
and
connectivity
and
enhanced
pedestrian
friendly
design
for
this
mixed-use
development.
H
So
chair
newman,
if
I
could
just
augment
mr
current
mr
contreras,
please,
essentially
we
looked
at
the
mixed-use
development
as
almost
not
completely,
but
somewhat
self-contained,
where
you
have
commercial
components
on
site.
Bookending
site
are
two
mini
mart's
convenience
smarts
at
the
gas
stations
which
provide
grocery
items,
milk,
eggs,
toiletries
other
household
items
that
they
could
walk
to
and
obtain
without
having
to
drive
down
to
sprouts
the
nearest
grocery
store.
H
Those
trips
would
be
reduced
because
those
convenience
items
are
next
door.
When
they
go
for
bulk
items,
they
would
take
those
trap
traffic
trips
truck
down
to
the
store,
but
in
this
development
you
do
have
amenities
that
are
nearby,
including
the
recreation
amenities
that
carl
was
alluded
to.
So
it
does
hold
philosophically
reduced
traffic
trips.
H
Not
square
footage-wise,
like
obviously
they're
much
different
in
size,
but
the
convenience
market
does
have
certain
items,
and
I
would
presume
that
if
businesses
got
busier,
they
provide
more
goods.
Yeah.
B
I
mean
if
I'm
out
of
ibuprofen
at
nine
at
night,
yeah
I'd
go
to
a
convenience
store,
but
for
my
weekly
grocery
shopping,
I'm
less
certain
about
that,
which
is
why
I'm
asking
about
just
everyday
shopping
for
food
and
other
items.
B
H
Items
that
you
use
you
just
you
go
by
at
the
convenience
mart
when
you
need
your
bulk
items,
where
you
go
to
the
grocery
store.
You'd
make
those
trips.
B
Okay,
regarding
the
tree
removals,
do
we
have
a
sense
for
the
protected
trees
approximately?
How
long
will
it
take
for
the
box
trees
that
replace
them
to
grow
the
size
of
the
trees
that
they're
replacing.
H
B
H
Offset
the
loss
of
that
one
tree,
which
would
be
much
larger,
depend
on
the
water
regime
and
how
often
they
are
watered.
Of
course
that's
not
a
good
point
this
time,
but
in
the
future.
B
H
B
F
Yeah,
we
included
specific
conditions
of
approval
requiring
that
the
replacement
trees
be
planted
on
site
and
the
applicant
team
would
submit
a
tree
location
map.
Should
the
project
be
approved.
B
Excellent
and
then,
while
we're
on
this
topic
since
water
came
up,
I
will
also
follow
commissioner
lansin
with
a
water
question.
I
guess
for
mr
hidari.
I
read
an
interesting
article
in
the
in
the
scientific
journal.
Nature
in
its
march
issue,
saying
that
the
entire
us
west
is
is
now
in
the
midst
of
the
worst
drought
in
1200
years.
B
P
J
Cities
and
purveyors
throughout
and
in
fact,
that
the
city
is
going
to
city
council
next
week
with
an
mou
to
reach
a
partnership
with
callegas
las
vegas,
municipal,
water,
district,
the
city,
camarosa
and
others
to
join
forces
to
do
some
regional
water
resources,
collaboration.
J
The
kayaking
municipal
water
district
has
just
completed
a
large
scale
and
I
think
1500,
page
water
supply
alternative
study
which
they've
been
studying
for
the
last
three
years
in
terms
of
all
the
different
options
that
may
exist
to
bring
additional
water
sources
into
ventura
county,
not
only
for
drought
purposes
resiliency,
but
also
for
emergency
backup.
In
case
there
is,
you
know
we
lose
access
to
the
you
know
the
san
fernando
valley
and
the
the
state
water
project
water.
So
those
discussions
are
active.
J
There's
options
here
and
there
there's
no
home
run
options
on
the
table.
The
last
option
on
the
table
is
desal
and
that's
something
that
some
cities
have
done
and
some
countries
have
done.
It
looks
like
it's
not
the
most
favorable
one.
J
I
just
got
it
just
got
rejected
by
the
coastal
commission
down
in
huntington
beach
two
weeks
ago,
so
we're
keeping
our
eye
on
all
those
things
and
we're
also
pursuing
developing
the
groundwater
that
we
have
in
the
caneo
basin,
which
the
the
the
largest
volume
or
source
of
it
is
at
the
la
shorebus
golf
course,
and
we've
been
working
to
develop
that
well
and
test
it
and
so
forth.
And
that
may
be
another
opportunity.
J
However,
at
best
it
looks
like
that
local
groundwater
would
only
be
able
to
meet
about
10
of
the
city's
water
needs.
So
it's
not
going
to
resolve
the
situation
in
and
of
itself,
so
we're
looking
at
other
options,
storm
water
capture
and
other
uses,
maybe
for
the
effluent
to
come
out
of
hill
canyon
treatment
plant.
But
it
is.
It
is
a
concerning
item.
Some
cities
have
kind
of
advanced,
much
farther
and
figured
it
out
or
had
to
figure
it
out
because
they
didn't
have
this
abundant
supply
of
state
water
project.
J
Water,
such
as
like
san,
diego
and
others,
and
and
ventura's,
got
a
400
million
dollar
water
project
that
they're
advancing,
which
is
going
to
be
the
recycling
their
wastewater,
and
so
does
many.
Other
cities
are
pursuing
that
as
well.
So
it's
a
dynamic
topic,
and
but
it's
one
that
affects
the
entire
city
and
not
just
this.
This
development
here.
G
All
right,
I
want
to
take
up
where
I
left
off
dog
park,
size.
F
G
Okay,
is
there
any
aspca
humane
society,
akc
rules
on
or
recommendations
for
the
size
of
a
dog
park.
F
G
G
All
right
and
then
I
wanted
to
move
on
to
traffic
myself
and
walkability.
G
I
happen
to
know
that
the
closest
way
to
get
from
that
kmart
site
or
the
new
imt
site
to
a
grocery
store
would
be
to
go
across
on
townsgate.
Townsgate
doesn't
have
sidewalks
it's
commercial
development.
I
assume
we
didn't
put
sidewalks
in
it
because
it
was
considered
commercial
at
the
time
my
office
happens
to
be
on
townsgate
and
I
do
walk
over
to
the
shopping
center
to
get
lunch
and
stuff,
and
so
I'm
very
well
aware
that
there's
no
sidewalks
there.
G
I
was
curious
if
the
city
has
any
plans
in
place
in
the
next
seven
years
to
create
a
greater
accessibility,
because
otherwise
you'd
have
to
go
all
the
way
around
on
hampshire
up
to
where
it
turns
into
aguero
road
to
get
there
so.
J
Yes,
certainly
the
the
supermarket,
which
exists
down
there.
The
sprouts
is,
however,
located
on
hampshire,
so
at
least
it
is
farther,
but
it's
not
tremendously
farther,
because
even
if
you
take
towns
get
now,
you
have
to
go
down
down
west,
like
poland,.
J
But
yeah
those
those
in
commercial
areas
and
industrial
areas
were
certainly
constructed
without
sidewalks.
You
know
back
in
the
60s
and
70s
and
we
have
a
larger
one
over
in
the
rancho
canejo
area,
we
were
just
able
to
get
some
grant
funding
it's
early
in
the
process,
but
for
that
rancho
canejo
area
to
add
some
sidewalks,
it
will
only
give
us.
You
know
a
small
portion
and
maybe
a
quarter
of
that
whole
entire
ranch
area
will
are.
J
Constantly
states
this
we
just
put
sidewalks
on
los
feliz
drive
on
canelo
school
road
on
willow,
willow
lane,
rancho
road,
and
you
know
we
northmoor
park
road
did
prior
to
that.
So
there
is
no
local
funding
mechanism
to
add
sidewalks,
but
it's
it's
a
through
the
grant
process
and
we
have
to
submit-
and
we
have
to
show
that
there's
a
there's,
a
demand
there
and
there's
a
need
currently
with
that
this
site
vacant
and
so
forth,
there's
very
little
pedestrian
activity
out
there.
So
if.
J
G
I
saw
the
caltrans
letter
talking
about
the
hampshire
exit,
so
I'm
familiar
yeah
all
right.
The
other
question
I
have
is
that
I
see
the
director
of
the
park
and
rex
up
there,
so
I
have
to
bust
this
out.
Triumphal
community
park
and
parque
de
la
paz
are
the
two
closest
parks
to
this
location.
J
J
What
I
was
referring
to
is
that
the
average,
although
we
have
50
plus
parks
in
town,
it's
quite
normal
or
quite
typical-
for
people
to
not
be
right
across
from
the
park.
Many
many
developments,
many
homes
have
at
that.
You
know
at
least
a
mile
walk
to
75.
G
J
Right
and
it's
something
they've
been
pursuing
and
looking
for
opportunities,
I
think
they
just
purchased
the
property
near
holland
drive
and
the
ranch
show
and
thousands
pull
over
area
to
add.
Maybe
a
park
so.
G
B
H
Concerns
and
commissioner
bus,
the
development
itself
is
providing
pocket
parts
designed
to
provide
recreational
amenities
for
the
children
who
live
in
that
site.
I
missed
the
first
part,
would
you
say
the
development
itself?
The
development
is
providing.
H
G
G
I
know
this
isn't
our
purview,
but
I
know
that
you
guys
are
in
charge
of
this,
so
I
I
ask
you
to
think
about
these
things
and
think
about
it.
In
terms
of
literally
people's
children
will
be
there
and
they're
going
to
want
to
go
to
these
places
and
they're
going
to
want
to
play
with
their
friends
who
are
going
to
be
at
a
school
that
won't
necessarily
be
part
of
their
neighborhood
but
a
neighborhood
adjacent,
and
how
are
they
going
to
be
able
to
access
those
areas
considering
this
was
originally
commercial
area.
G
This
wasn't
what
we
thought
this
that
this
was
going
to
turn
out
to
be,
and
now
that
we're
changing
the
way
our
city
looks.
How
do
we
incorporate
all
the
other
elements
of
our
city
so
that
this
project
can
be
successful
for
this
organization?
So
it
can
be
a
desirable
place
for
people
to
rent,
so
it
can
be
a
place
where
they
will
go.
Oh,
it's
really
close
to
the
schools.
J
The
as
far
as
the
the
park
access
there
is
a
continuous
as
a
bike
lane
and
a
continuous
sidewalk
from
the
subject
parcel
to
the
triangle
park
and
most
of
that,
as
soon
as
you
turn
on
you
know,
tri-info
is
a
very
you,
know:
low
speed
and
easy
access
access,
and
I
think
you
can
get
there
from
the
the
trail
as
well.
G
G
B
I
can
tell
you,
from
20
years
of
riding
around
this
area,
that
virtually
every
cyclist
in
town
takes
foothill
as
a
detour
around
the
back
of
this
project,
because
specifically
because
that
101
off-ramp
willow
hampshire
area
is
so
congested
and
has
so
many
cars
moving
at
such
high
speed.
It's
it's
I'm
used
to
playing
in
traffic
and
I
don't
find
it
a
safe
environment.
B
So
what
what
kinds
of
things
I
recognize?
Traffic's,
not
our
department,
but
putting
if
we're
contributing
to
the
issue
here.
What
kinds
of
protections
are
we
contemplating
in
terms
of
cycling?
Safety
as
as,
potentially
children
are
exiting
onto
hampshire,
on
bicycles
or
or
adults
going
other
places.
J
A
J
We
are
pursuing
a
obviously
some
improvements
at
that
hampshire,
one-on-one
interchange,
it's
a
quite
a
large
project
and
that's
probably
our
our
last
interchange
to
be
upgraded.
It's
one
of
the
you
know
older
ones
as
it
currently
stands.
So,
but
as
far
as
hampshire
itself,
there
is
no
substandard
issue
there.
J
In
terms
of
the
you
know,
the
bike
lanes
and
so
forth,
foothills
yeah,
like
I
mentioned
it's
just
a
lower
adt,
less
vehicles
on
the
road,
so
people
generally
would
go
that
you
know
the
back
way
around
to
just
avoid
it
and
that
once
they
get
down
onto
from
foothill
onto
hampshire
and
continue
going
south
away
from
the
freeway
at
that
point,
it's
also.
It
also
opens
up
nicely
there
too.
So
also.
J
B
That
better
and
safer,
but
but
I
mean,
has
there
been
any
consideration
of
something
like
a
dedicated,
I
mean
a
physically
isolated
bike
lane
in
in
yeah
or
bollards
or
something
bollards
are
have
good
and
bad
points.
You
don't
want
to
hit
a
baller
to
25
miles
an
hour.
Don't
ask
me
well
don't
ask
me
how
I
know.
J
J
Yeah,
but
no,
I
certainly
think
what
we're
always
looking
at,
in
fact
we're
looking
at
doing
that
right
now
on
lynn,
road
and
every
time
we
typically
look
at
those
opportunities
when
we
are
doing
an
overlay
or
a
restriping
project
and
evaluate,
and
in
many
cases
in
order
to
do
something
like
that,
you
have
to
take
a
lane
away
and
that's
not
been
a
very
popular
item.
Citywide.
J
Here
but
we've
we've
done
it
a
few
times
and
we're
you
know
evaluating
and
we're
doing
it
right
now
in
on
the
existing
2022
paving
project
on
reno
road,
so
that
that's
one
location
that
we're
we're,
dropping
the
lane
and
adding
a
protected
bike
lane
and
we'll
continue
to
evaluate
those,
especially
when
you
know
new
hampshire
is,
is
paved
next
time.
B
Yeah,
I
I
guess
I
mean
I'm
I'm
asking
about
children
here,
but
but
I
guess
I
hope
in
in
as
the
city
plans
this
out,
that
that
safety
improvements
are
made
with
with
three
groups
in
mind:
children
who
are
cyclists,
adult
recreational
cyclists
and
since
we're
talking
about
being
more
walkable,
pedestrian,
friendly
adults
who
are
doing
shopping
on
bikes
and
that
that
applies
not
only
to
the
hampshire
area
going
south
on
hampshire
as
we're
discussing,
but
but
also
across
willow
lane
to
get
to
the
lakes.
K
As
far
as
we
do
that
general
plan
also,
I
think
I
and
mr
hadary
can
correct
me,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
we
just
finished
up
or
we're
almost
finishing
up
the
enhancements
to
willow
lane,
and
that
includes
some
additional
sidewalk
work
there
and
that
certainly
helps.
K
And
finally,
it
is
important
to
note
that
this
complex
this
project
is
very
close
to
a
trailhead,
and
so
that
is
to
me
an
amazing
accessible
for
for
this
project
for
the
people
that
live
this
project
to
be
able
to
get
there
whether
it's
biking,
hiking
horseback
riding
whatever
they
want
to
do.
Certainly
it's
something
that
they
might
be
able
to
do
close
close
by.
B
Very
good,
thank
you,
commissioners.
Before
we
go
to
the
applicant,
are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
staff
all
right?
We
will
now
turn
to
our
applicant
and
I
want
to
be
sure
I
have
all
the
names
right
here.
We've
got
keith,
mccloskey
and
then
available
for
questions.
Dwayne
border
john
tesor.
B
I
apologize
for
butchering
your
name,
tom
cohen,
david
tedesco,
john
moreland,
dave,
rand,
daniel
cough
yeah,
daniel
kaufman,
laura
kaufman
and
fred
cunningham,
and
all
of
you
collectively
have
15
minutes.
You
can
divide
up
any
which
way
you
like
chair.
B
Certainly,
I've
been
asked
by
commissioner,
who
has
a
good
reason
to
ask
if
we
can
take
a
short
intermission
before
we
begin
our
applicant
testimony
we'll
take
a
10-minute
recess
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
A
B
And,
as
I
was
saying,
the
applicant
has
a
number
of
representatives
on
the
team
for
each.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name
and
city
of
residence
for
the
record
and
you've
got
15
minutes
between
you
good
evening.
Q
Q
So
since
carlos
has
talked
about
a
lot
of
the
numbers
of
the
project
and
we've
talked
a
lot
about
affordability
and
affordable
units,
I'm
going
to
try
and
focus
the
presentation
primarily
on
the
design,
ideas,
the
the
vision
behind
the
project
and
what
we
really
expect
this
project
to
be
when
it's
completed,
and
so
in
terms
of
you
know,
community
benefits.
Q
Q
So
the
project
is
really
focused
on
putting
the
commercial
residential
mixed-use
buildings
up
on
hampshire
and
then
creating
kind
of
the
urban
edge
there
having
the
presence
visibility
of
the
commercial
there
and
then
folding
that
into
the
main
street,
so
that
as
we
come
into
the
project
site
and
that
ramps
up,
we
basically
get
to
kind
of
a
level
center
of
the
project
where
we've
got
project
amenities,
surface
parking,
as
well
as
the
entrances
into
the
surface
on
grade
parking
within
the
buildings
which
is
going
to
be
for
commercial
residential
as
well
as
visitors
or
future
residents
that
are
coming
to
the
leasing
office.
Q
Q
So
back
on
the
far
north
side,
there's
a
pocket
park
there
with
residential
units
at
grade
that
have
on-grade
patios,
that
open
up
onto
those
open
spaces,
as
well
as
throughout
the
connecting
paseos
throughout
the
site,
and
then
the
entire
western
half
of
the
site
is
dedicated
to
the
71
town
homes
and
those
town.
Homes
are
really
there
step
down
from
the
four-story
building
on
hampshire,
to
three-story
building
massing
to
create
not
only
massing
reduction,
to
be
sensitive
to
the
more
residential
side
of
the
project
site,
but
also
to
create
some
diversity.
Q
So,
in
terms
of
unit
types,
we
have
some
smaller
units
like
studios
within
the
mixed
use
buildings,
and
then
these
townhomes
range
up
to
four
bedrooms.
So
we
have
the
ability
to
accommodate
larger
families
as
well,
and
then
those
are
really
consisting
of
a
few
different
building
types
that
create
more
clusters
and
opportunities
for
connection
to
open
space,
where
some
of
that
interaction
will
happen
with
neighbors
and
I'll.
Let
dwayne
talk
a
little
bit
more
specifically
about
the
various
components
of
the
program.
E
Thank
you,
keith,
and
thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
duane
border
city
of
los
angeles
resident.
So
when
we
first
start
with
our
landscape
design,
we
really
want
to
create
a
connection
of
authenticity
essentially
for
this
project.
So
we
start,
obviously
by
looking
at
the
natural
systems,
the
ecos
systems,
the
microclimates
and
those
types
of
things
that
we
find
in
thousand
oaks
and
really
beginning
to
pull
from
that
heritage
and
really
kind
of
creating
something
that
has
that
connection
to
the
natural
landscape.
E
E
And
so,
as
we
mentioned,
there
are
a
number
of
spaces
within
this.
That
again,
this
is
a
porous
community.
It's
all
open
to
the
public.
It's
considered
quasi
public,
but
really
it
is
open
to
the
public.
We
have
along
the
hampshire
and
the
central
drive
that
commercial,
more
of
that
urban
experience
with
plazas
terraces
outside
of
the
the
retail
in
the
restaurant
areas.
We
have
the
dog
park,
that's
there
in
the
southeast
and
then
along
the
west
and
the
southwest,
and
then
to
the
north.
E
We
have
a
string
of
kind
of
linear
park
spaces,
but
essentially
all
of
the
areas
there
in
green
and
even
that
orange
are
going
to
be
the
places
where
you
can
walk
with
kids.
You
can
take
a
stroller,
you
can
have
discovery
play
areas.
We
can
have
different
types
of
passive
and
active
uses
happening
there
that
aren't
necessarily
traditional
recreational
baseball
and
those
types
of
things,
but
the
passive,
everyday
recreation
that
you
find
in
everyday
life
in
thousand
oaks
and
then
also
within
this.
E
We
have
green
areas
that
are
part
of
the
podium
buildings,
so
all
of
these
courtyards
are
going
to
be
accessible
from
the
units
and
it's
going
to
be
interior,
green
spaces.
We're
also
looking
at
maximizing
green
roof
areas
where
we
did
pull
back
from
hampshire.
That
area,
instead
of
being
traditional
roof,
we'll
still
have
to
have
some
mechanical
and
roofing
utilities
there.
E
But
we're
really
looking
at
opportunities
from
the
landscape
perspective
to
kind
of
push
out
and
increase
the
green
on
all
levels
up
and
down,
and
I
will
also
mention
that
one
of
the
kind
of
the
guides
that
we're
using
we
recently
went
to
the
conrad
hilton
foundation
in
gore,
hills
which
is
leed
platinum,
where
they
really
really
pushed
the
envelope
in
terms
of
the
way
you
can
do
landscape
and
irrigation.
So
we're
using
that
as
our
model,
we
have
an
engineer
who
worked
on
that
project.
E
Our
irrigation
designer
worked
on
that
project,
so
being
able
to
use
different
systems
for
capture
and
reuse,
potentially
we're
exploring
all
different
ideas
about
how
we
can
begin
to
use
water
even
potentially
gray
water
for
irrigation
use
and
the
landscape
itself
is
really
going
to
be
naturalized,
predominantly
native
plant
materials.
We're
not
doing
any
manicured
lawns.
We're
really
not
expecting
to
have
any
lawns
at
all.
The
dog
park
we're
probably
going
to
transition
to
more
of
a
dg
type
surface.
E
Q
And
then
I
did
want
to
walk
through
some
of
the
architectural
vision
for
the
project.
You
know
we
had
seen
this
really
a
main
street
commercial
type,
building
that
really
had
more
traditional
storefront
bays
activation
transparency
along
the
hampshire
frontage,
as
well
as
on
the
main
entry
road
really
set
up
with
a
significant
brick
base.
That
would
become
kind
of
the
architectural
character
of
that
two
different
brick
colors
and
a
darker
reddish
brown
and
then
a
lighter
tan,
brick.
Q
Q
And
then
in
the
main
street,
the
idea
is
that
that's
got
a
five
percent
slope
to
it.
So
it's
not
going
to
have
any
ada
walkways,
but
everything's
gonna
be
sloped
under
five,
so
that
we
don't
need
any
handrails.
We
keep
it
nice
open.
Q
We've
got
a
wide,
almost
15
foot
wide
sidewalk
there
with
planting
benches.
So
it's
going
to
be
an
area
for
people
moving
across
the
site,
but
also
areas
of
respite
there
outside
we'll
have
outdoor
dining
tables
potentially
for
some
of
those
tenants,
food
and
beverage
uses
that
could
be
at
the
corner
there
or
market
that
might
have
opportunities
for
outdoor
seating
as
well.
Q
And
then
this
is
an
example
of
one
of
the
views
through
the
internal
residential
paseos,
that
line
kind
of
the
border
between
the
town,
home
use
and
then
the
podium
project
on
the
right
and
then
throughout
the
project
site.
You
get
a
sense
of
the
the
building
scale,
the
the
three-story
elements
and
all
of
the
park-like
elements
that
create
the
foreground.
Q
And
then
this
gives
a
hint
of
kind
of
the.
Before
and
after
vision,
for
how
we'd
imagine
this
being
revitalized,
I
mean
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
hard
surfacing.
That's
going
to
be
removed
in
exchange
for
some
permeable
areas,
a
lot
of
native
drought,
drought-tolerant
planting
and
dg,
like
dwayne,
had
discussed
and
a
shot
of
the
dog
park.
Q
And
then,
in
terms
of
the
architectural
articulation,
I
mean
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
since
the
rca
we're
really
looking
at
adding
opportunities
for
details.
We've
worked
with
staff
to
provide
a
lot
of
plane
changes,
material
breaks,
insets
at
storefronts
details
with
bricks,
around
awnings,
balcony,
railing
details
and
those
have
been
added
into
this
formal
application
and
in
terms
of
the
height
we've,
put
this
diagram
together
to
demonstrate
the
different
height
zones
throughout
the
project
and
the
specific
plan
really
creates
a
comparable
height
averaging
technique.
Q
Q
B
I
Q
Yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
let
the
owner
come
up
and
talk
about
that,
but
he's
a
local
resident
as
well-
and
you
know
this
is
an
important
project
to
john
and
imt,
and
this
isn't
kind
of
a
entitle
and
flip
kind
of
deal.
This
is
something
where
we're
already
actively
working
on
the
construction
drawings
in
anticipation
of
a
real
project
start
but
john.
If
you
want
to
share
any
details
about
that.
M
Hi
john
tessarrero
resident
of
thousand
oaks.
We
are
we're
currently
working
on
the
plans,
so
we
hope
to
submit
them
by
the
end
of
the
year
in
the
plan
check
and
as
fast
as
the
city
can
approve
them,
we're
going
to
start
the
project
and
the
answer
the
the
question
on
phasing.
It
is
just
what
they
talked
about.
We
have
a
townhome
section
and
we
have
the
buildings
a
and
b
townhomes
build
slower.
You
know,
so
we
can
do
that
at
a
a
later
date.
M
I
M
I
I
know
in
some
of
the
questioning
before
there
was
a
comment
with
regard
to
the
ev
infrastructure.
Could
you
explain
a
little
more
about
what
you
and
should.
M
Ev's
very
important:
we
have
a
lot
of
properties
across
the
country
and
it's
a
changing
time.
So
a
lot
of
those
properties
weren't
planned
for
ev
charging
and
we
have
to
provide
it
so
on
this
project
day,
one
we're
going
to
put
five
percent
charges
in
place
of
the
802,
so
that's
40
in
place
day,
one
when
we
open
up
additionally
we're
going
to
have
another
240
spaces
that
are
ev
capable.
That
means
we
just
add
chargers
to
those
and
included
in
that's
all
the
townhomes.
B
If
I
may
interject
on
that
is,
is
there
capability
for
the
monetary
charge
for
that.
M
M
The
71
units-
yes,
sir!
No!
That's
that's
that's
on
the
house
panel.
That
is
provided
that
the
residents
will
pay
for
we
use
chargepoint
for
the
other
where
they
they
go
on
and
they
get
a
application
for
it
and
they
they
go
in
and
they
just
go
in
and
automatically
with
the
app
charge.
B
M
Residents
through
the
app
on
the
71
town
homes-
yes,
that
that
that's
directly
to
their
meter,
no
app
required
for
that
and
they'll
also
be
ev
charging
out
in
the
commercial
areas,
not
only
for
the
residents
and
then
ev
charging
for
bicycles,
too,
will
be
provided
for
the
public
and
in
the
bike,
storage
areas.
I
And
last
question
for
me
and
again
I
don't
know
if
this
is
going
to
be
for
you,
but
there
were
materials
in
our
supplement
and
the
reason
why
we
continued
it
from
sequa
environmental
questions
and
issues.
We
also
have
additional
letters.
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to
make
a
response
to
what
was
in
our
materials
as
to
that
issue.
I
R
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
dave
rand,
I'm
a
land
use
attorney
with
rand,
pastor,
nelson
representing
imt.
Just
briefly,
commissioner,
and
thank
you
for
asking
the
question,
your
staff
and
your
consultants
have
fully
and
completely
responded
to
all
of
the
public
comments
that
were
submitted
in
connection
with
the
draft
eir.
It
was
important
to
your
staff
to
take
the
time
to
continue
this
hearing
to
allow
for
that
full
response
to
occur.
R
There
have
there
were
some
objections
posed
to
the
environmental
impact
analysis,
particularly
with
respect
to
construction,
noise
and
traffic
and
air
quality,
and
you
have
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
full
responses
that
demonstrate
that
the
eir
is
adequate.
The
impacts
were
fully
disclosed.
R
Mitigation
measures
were
completely
added
and
imposed
to
address
all
impacts
that
can
be
addressed
and
our
sole
remaining
significant
unavoidable
impact,
which
is
simply
construction.
Noise,
all
feasible
mitigation
that
can
be
imposed
has
been
imposed,
and
that
is
only
a
temporary
and
intermittent
impact.
There
are
no
ongoing
full
operational
impacts
that
can't
be
mitigated
associated
with
this
project.
You
have
a
complete
environmental
record
and
you
should
be
fully
confident
in
your
ability
to
vote
on
on
this
matter
tonight.
With
all
that
information
in
front
of
you.
G
You
thank
you
very
much
for
that
presentation.
I
just
had
a
few
questions.
Probably
a
lot
of
people
watching
and
paying
attention
aren't
super
familiar
with
mixed
use,
just
as
a
concept,
especially
in
this
area.
So
I
just
had
a
few
questions
for
you
on
that:
the
mixed-use
building
access,
retail
versus
residential
is
there
what?
What
is
the
the
security
measures
that
allow
people
in
the
residential
portion
to
be
secure
from
retail.
Q
Yeah,
so
basically
the
retail
is
self-contained
with
access
from
the
public
side.
So
off
of
hampshire,
we've
got
an
elevated
platform
where
it
steps
up
or
ramps
up
to
that
elevation
with
direct
doors
from
the
public
side,
and
then
that
has
kind
of
secured
areas
behind
it,
secured
corridors
with
retail
trash
and
things
like
that
back
there.
Q
But
beyond
that,
the
entry
lobby
for
the
residents,
which
is
further
in
on
the
main
street
they'd,
go
into
a
leasing
office
which
would
likely
be
open
during
the
daytime,
while
it's
manned
by
staff,
leasing,
personnel
and
manager
and
then
in
the
evenings.
That
lobby
would
be
locked
as
well
and
then
from
there
you
go
into
an
elevator
lobby
that
has
access
typically
with
a
key
fob
to
get
up
to
your
respective
floor.
So
somebody,
that's,
maybe
living
on
the
third
floor,
may
not
be
able
to
get
to
the
second
floor.
Q
Q
The
intent
is
no,
no
that
it
would
be
during
business
operations
and
that
I
think,
because
they
are
a
sign
for
commercial
parking.
You
know
they're
they're,
going
to
be
labeled
that
way
with
signage
ada
and
standard
and
ev
commercial
parking,
but
perhaps
there's
some
opportunity
to
do
sharing
where
maybe
in
the
evenings,
it
could
be
guest
parking
for
residents,
but
we're
not
currently
counting
it
that
way.
The
55
additional
guest
spaces
that
we
do
have
is
exclusive
of
commercial.
G
Q
I
believe
it's
established
in
the
specific
plan-
okay,
the
maximum
range-
but
it
would
just
be
consistent
with-
and
you
guys
are
cool
with
that.
Q
G
You
got
it
and
then
I
just
had
two
questions
for
the
for
the
landscape.
Architect,
one.
You
said
passive
recreation.
What's
what's
the
definition
of
that
just
so.
We
all
know.
E
Passive
recreation,
essentially,
is
anything
that
isn't
you
know,
organized
sports
activities,
those
types
of
things,
so
passive
recreation
is
walking
jogging,
stroller
use
children's.
You
know
play
areas,
those
types
of
things
so.
G
E
Yeah,
it
certainly
is
yeah,
that's
you're.
Seeing
that
move
it's
either
going
to
synthetic
turf
or
decomposed
granite
synthetic
turf.
We
don't
like
to
use
because
it
actually
heats
up
quite
a
bit
and
they
can
off
gas
and
can
have
some
issues
associated
with
you
know
cleanliness.
So
dg
is
actually
a
really
good
surface.
That
kind
of
can
be
redressed,
occasionally
and
cleaned
up
really
easily
and
just
to
clarify
the
dog
park
is
open
to
the
public,
so
it's
not
exclusive
to
just
residents.
I.
G
L
Hi,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
have
a
probably
awkward
question.
You
have
the
beautiful
photo
of
the
main
street
and
in
the
back
are
the
hills,
nice,
green
hills.
I
know
they're
not
always
green.
Was
that
poetic
license,
or
will
you
be
able
to
see
the
hills
back
there.
Q
Now
you
will
be
able
to
see
the
hills
depending
on
where
you
are
in
the
project
site
on
that
main
street.
You
know
it
is
going
uphill
and
we've
got
three-story
buildings,
but
the
buildings
are
not
in
line
with
that
driveway.
So
the
buildings
are
off
flanking
it
on
either
the
north
or
the
south
sides.
Q
L
Q
So
we're
imagining
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
these
days
that
some
have
the
ability
to
have
flex
schedules
and
work
from
home
part-time.
Some
may
be,
you
know
completely
flexible
where
they
work
from
home
all
the
time,
and
so
it's
really
there
to
be,
let's
say
on
par
with
something
like
a
wework
but
not
a
paid
amenity.
It's
going
to
be
a
free
amenity
for
residents,
and
I
think,
within
that
area
or
near
that
co-working
area,
we
plan
on
carving
out
the
learning
center
as
a
community
benefit.
L
Q
L
Okay
and
another
question
very
specific
sorry
about
this.
If
somebody
wanted
to
walk
their
child
to
the
daycare
center,
which
I
know
is
not
on
your
property,
is
there
going
to
be
some
sort
of
direct
connect
connectivity
to
that.
Q
As
of
right
now,
they'd
have
to
walk
out
the
project
site
onto
foothill
and
then
walk
up
the
public
sidewalk
around
the
corner.
To
get
to
the
daycare.
L
Q
So
I
think
we
only
have
two
studios
that
have
balconies
the
majority
of
the
studios.
Don't,
and
the
reason
behind
that
is,
I
think,
we're
totally
at
about
93
percent
of
the
units
at
this
project
would
have
a
balcony
so
we're
at
321
in
the
mixed
use
and
then
100
of
the
townhomes
would
all
have
a
private
open
space
component.
E
I
do
have
questions
about
the
access
on
hampshire
in
regard
to
the
gate
location,
so
I
I'd
say
I'm
concerned
about
the
interactivity,
because
that
is
a
pedestrian
pathway.
So
where
would
the
gate
be
located
just
based
on
the
site
plans?
It
looks
like
the
slope
or
the
or
the
ramp
is
immediately
down
after
the
sidewalk.
Is
that
the
intent
or.
Q
Q
Q
And
so
and
then
from
from
that
they'll
be
able
to
descend.
I
think
it's
about
another
about
a
car's
length
before
the
gate
would
go
up
so
potentially.
Q
Q
K
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I've
just
got
a
few
questions
regarding
the
commercial
portion
of
the
mixed-use
space.
We've
got
another
mixed-use
property
in
town,
where
the
commercial
portion
of
it
has
gone
empty
for
quite
a
long
time.
One
to
two
years.
B
Q
Not
yet,
I
think,
there's
definitely
a
vision
for
the
type
of
tenant
that
would
go
there.
I
think
we've
talked
about
the
convenience
store,
slash,
you
know
small
market
as
well
as
food
and
beverage
uses
cafe
small
restaurants,
but
it's
a
little
bit
too
early
to
to
lock
in
a
tent,
but
I
think
imts,
probably
you
know
already
researching
that
and
potentially
in
discussions
with
other
retail
groups
and
brokers.
M
M
G
M
Grease
traps
way
to
ventilate
the
project,
so
a
lot
of
those
projects,
people
go
into
and
they're
not
able
to
rent
there's
just
a
very
few
rentals
that
can
be
put
into
those
projects.
We
don't
have
anybody
right
now
that
we're
looking
at
it's
too
early.
The
most
important
thing
people
are
looking
at
is
timing.
M
It's
like
when,
if
we're
going
to
go
into
a
lease,
when
are
we
going
to
open
this
up
as
soon
as
we
get
through
plan
check,
then
we
go
into
the
leasing
phase,
bring
in
leasing
consultants
to
start
working
on
it,
it's
very
important
to
activate
the
retail
in
the
project,
so
that
will
be
something
we
work
on.
So.
B
M
What
we
did
when
we
looked
at
the
parking
is
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
we
had
restaurants
come
in,
we
provided
enough
parking.
So
when
we
look
at
that,
12
500,
that's
parked
at
restaurant
parking,
the
1200
and
2500
is
parked
at
retail.
We
can
do
more,
retail
or
and
we'd
have
excess
parking,
or
we
can
go
up
to
twelve
thousand
five
hundred.
B
M
We'd
love
to
get
a
restaurant
in
there
we'd
love
to,
as
you
know,
see
on
the
corner
of
the
renderings
we'd
love
to
get
a
small
ranch
market
in
there
that
the
residents
can
go
down
to.
We
try
to
put
things
in
that
the
residents
like
to
go
down
to
you
know,
be
able
to
go
down
and
pick
up
some
groceries
or
have
a
cup
of
coffee
sit
outside.
So
we
try
to
program
the
the
property
for
the
residents
and
we
get
a
lot
of
neighbors
who
also
come
into
it.
M
B
Right
right,
right
and
then
and
then
the
other
follow-up
on
that
is
the
timeline.
I
think,
if
I
heard
correctly
we're
looking
at
up
to
seven
years
for
construction,
so
does
that?
Does
that
mean
given
what
you've
just
said
that.
M
B
M
M
The
total
project,
including
townhomes
total
built
out,
is
about
30
months
for
this
size
project,
so
we're
anticipating
end
of
the
year
to
go
to
plan
check
the
city
provide
us
permits,
hopefully
in
a
timely
manner,
30
months
after
that
we
have
flags
in
the
air,
and
hopefully
we
have
retail
stores
open
the
day
we
open
up
and
we
don't
open
up
in
a
phased
project.
Even
if
the
project's
done,
we
only
open
a
project
that
is
completely
done
where
residents
can
move
in
that
day,
we're
not
pre-leasing
we're
not
getting
ready.
M
We
want
people
to
able
to
go
in
the
important
part.
Is
they
like
to
look
at
where
they're
going
to
live
they're
going
to
go
into
their
resident
and
pick
what
view
they
want
to
see?
It's
the
most
important
thing
of
renting.
So
our
strategy
is
finish
a
project.
Let
them
see
what
they're
actually
going
to
get
and
the
rentals
come
and
you
on
a
project
like
this
size.
M
B
So
what
we've
been
seeing
with
other
mixed
use,
projects
in
town
is
the
leasing
of
the
residential
portion
is
not
a
problem
right.
We
have
very
high
demand
for
affordable,
especially
and
unaffordable
types
of
units.
That's
that's
fine.
We've
seen
retail
struggle
quite
a
bit,
so
I
guess
one
that's
why
I'm
asking
these
questions
two
is,
I
guess
I'd
ask
for
imts
projects
in
other
places
have
have
you
been
able
to
fill
the
retail
space
portion
of
mixed
other
mixed
use,
projects
that
you.
M
Have
we're
currently
working
on
a
project
in
sherman
oaks,
citrus
commons,
we
do
have
a
retailer.
We
have
trader
joe's
going
in
as
the
major
tenant.
We
have
banks
that
want
to
go
in
there.
Banking
has
changed,
I
mean
now
you
go
in
and
there's
nobody
in
there.
Besides
machines,
so
they're
looking
for
smaller
spaces
to
go
in
and
have
them
in
more
locations,
we're
seeing
the
demand
for
it
for
the
right
product.
Don't
forget
these
retailers
are
going
in.
They
have
420
residents
that
also
are
serving
them.
So
it's
kind
of
important.
M
B
Great,
thank
you
going
back
to
the
environmental
aspects
of
the
project.
You,
I
think
we
heard
earlier
that
that
the
project
is
gray
water
ready.
Does
that
mean
it's?
It
will
be
capable
of
using
gray
water,
or
is
that
something
that
we're
looking
at
at
some
indefinite
point
in
the
future.
E
So
the
lightest
of
the
great
water
basically
and
we
will
be
isolating
those
to
areas
that
are
closer
to
the
buildings,
so
we're
working
right
now
with
the
the
mep,
the
plumbing
engineers
and
starting
to
isolate
these
are
the
zones
that
we
want
to
target
and
then
also
working
with
what
kind
of
water
quality
are
we
going
to
have
and
then
how
we
can
best
use
that,
so
it
is
something
we're
pursuing,
but
we
don't
have
the
pipes
in
yet,
but.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
you
know
another
topic
and
I
think
soon
will
be
a
requirement,
is
moving
away
from
natural
gas
appliances
and
toward
electric
appliances
where,
where,
where
are
we
with
that?.
Q
B
Okay
and
slightly
different
topic,
but
while
we're
talking
about
infrastructure,
what's
your
plan
for
internet
access,
we're
talking
about
work,
lease
flex
schedules,
people
be
heavy
internet
users.
Here,
I
presume,
are
you
pulling
dark
fiber
in
or
how?
What?
What
are?
What
are
we
doing
to
get
folks
connected.
M
Most
all
the
projects
now
and
I
mean
it's-
we
strive
to
have
fiber
in
all
the
project
and
everything
is
fiber.
That's
going
into
new
projects,
everything's
wired
up
to
their
units
in
fiber,
and
they
can
sign
up
with
a
provider
of
that,
but
also
along
the
way,
the
whole
community.
So
if
you're
outside
at
the
pool
or
at
the
dog
park
or
walking
through
the
sales,
you
can
be
on
the
the
wi-fi
of
the
project.
B
B
Q
No,
the
full
site
from
the
public
right-of-way
to
all
of
the
building
entries
and
elevator
lobbies
is
all
going
to
be
ada,
accessible,
yeah.
Q
It
it's
below
the
five
percent
threshold,
so
there's
no
rails
or
anything
required,
because
it's
not
even
steep
enough.
So.
Q
B
B
Account
is
right.
We
have
12
public
comments
and
so
each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes
a
piece
and
for
each
speaker
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
give
your
name
and
then
the
next
two
people
who
are
up
so
that
we
can
get
those
speakers
ready.
B
Okay,
so
we
will
begin
with
jim
friedl,
followed
by
danielle
borgia
and
then
kenzie
flame,
mr
friedel
good
evening.
R
Good
evening,
chair
newman
city
attorney,
he
her
director,
dugan
and
members
of
the
commission
and
staff,
I'm
really
pleased
to
be
down
here
tonight.
My
name
is
jim
friedl.
I'm
the
general
manager
of
the
canada
rec
reckon
park
district
and,
like
the
applicant
before
you
tonight,
is
so
rightfully
proud
of
the
lovely
grounds
around
their
project.
Crpd
is
very
proud
of
the
60
parks
and
facilities
that
we
manage
maintain
around
the
entire
community.
R
They
total
about
a
thousand
acres
of
developed
park
land
and
before
the
last
route
we
had
250
acres
of
turf.
This
is
just
a
little
side
bar
we're
down
to
170
acres
because
of
all
the
removals
that
we
did
during
the
latch
last
round.
So
the
remaining
turf
that
we're
holding
on
to
we
desperately
want
to
hold
on
to
so
we're
making
a
plea
for
residents
to
do
that,
cutting
back
and
maybe
losing
their
lawn
so
that
we
collectively
can
have
a
community
lawn
to
use
in
the
park.
R
So
that's
my
commercial,
but
that's
not
really.
Why
I'm
here,
I'm
here
to
thank
the
applicant
and
their
attorney,
mr
cohen,
that
we
worked
with
on
resolving
a
little
minor
issue
that
we
had
over
the
understanding
about
the
park
and
the
impact
fees.
So
I'm
really
here
to
express
gratitude
to
to
the
applicant
for
committing
to
the
you
know,
supporting
the
the
entire
communities
parks
and
green
space
by
paying
the
park
impact
fees
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
commission
may
have.
B
S
Good
evening
sharon
newman
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
danielle
borgia,
president,
ceo
of
the
greater
kaneho
valley,
chamber
of
commerce
and
thousand
oaks
resident,
our
chamber
has
been
involved
in
the
to
ranch
project
for
over
two
years.
They
are
an
active
member
of
our
chamber.
This
is
a
high
priority
for
our
organization
and
the
local
businesses
that
we
serve.
S
In
addition
to
our
chamber
letter,
we
have
over
a
dozen
letters
of
support
from
major
employers
in
our
packet
this
evening.
I
would
like
to
use
my
time
to
share
some
of
their
comments
from
our
largest
employer
amgen,
as
a
large
recruiter
of
top
talent
from
around
the
world.
A
vital
factor
in
deciding
where
to
locate
offices
is
the
availability
of
a
wide
variety
of
housing,
entertainment
and
recreation
options.
S
Otero
biotherapeutics
achara
is
part
of
a
growing
biotech
hub
in
rancho
canejo
and
currently
has
over
400
employees
as
a
senior
vice
president
and
chief
people
officer.
I
know
firsthand.
The
lack
of
local
housing
options
continues
to
be
a
significant
challenge
to
retain
and
attract
highly
skilled
employees.
S
Takeda
as
a
global
company
takeda
has
a
strong
commitment
to
sustainability
and
is
pleased
that
imt
has
prioritized
a
wide
variety
of
green
initiatives.
Pennymac
as
an
employer
with
over
2
000
employees
in
ventura,
county
chio
ranch
will
be
an
attractive
housing
option
for
both
current
employees,
as
well
as
future
candidates.
S
Capsida
capsida
can
better
succeed
at
hiring
and
bringing
top
tier
talent
to
our
biotech
community
if
there
are
affordable,
attractive
and
convenient
housing
options.
Keypoint
asset
management,
keypoint
asset
management,
manages
the
gate
one
building
on
townsgate
road
with
16
tenants
in
addition
to
housing,
the
15
000
square
feet
of
dining.
A
retail
space
will
create
a
vibrant
village
feel
for
both
residents
and
community
members
to
enjoy
las
robles
health
system.
S
Fiji
film
recently
closed
a
100
million
dollar
acquisition
of
a
90
000
square
foot
manufacturing
space
in
rancho
conejo.
The
chio
ranch
project
will
help
close
the
gap
we
have
in
our
region
for
housing,
and
we
can
have
a
significant
impact
on
talent,
attraction
and
finally,
westlake
village,
bio
partners.
We
urge
you
to
prioritize
housing
projects
like
to
ranch
that
will
lead
to
economic
development
in
the
biotech
sector,
which
continues
to
be
one
of
the
city's
top
10
goals
simply
put
from
the
chamber
perspective.
S
B
B
Okay,
we'll
come
back
to
her
and
move
on
to
karen
wilburn,
catselm
and
jackson,
piper.
B
Okay,
if
you
can
proceed,
miss
flame
and
then
miss
wilburn,
we'll
we'll
we'll
go
to
you
next.
S
Oh
wait:
yes,
sir
good
evening,
chair
newman
planning,
commission
and
community
members,
I
apologize,
I
couldn't
be
there
in
person.
Tonight
is
the
night
before
the
last
day
of
school,
so
just
as
crazy
as
the
first
day
of
school,
I
don't
have
any
affiliation
with
the
property
owner,
nor
does
anyone
in
my
family,
I
am
just
a
community
member
with
lots
of
opinions.
S
My
name
is
kinsey
flame,
my
husband
and
I
own
two
businesses
in
the
canal
valley,
and
we
raise
our
two
children
here.
One
of
our
businesses
is
moms
of
pineal
mums
of
canada.
Valley
has
over
24
000
local
members,
and
I
can
tell
you
firsthand
that
we're
in
a
crowd's
housing
crisis
daily,
we
get
members
asking
for
rentals
apartments.
Condos
in
our
area.
Families
are
having
to
move
further
and
further
outside
of
our
city
limits
to
find
a
home.
S
The
teo
ranch
property
offers
studio
apartments
to
four
bedroom
apartments,
allowing
for
individuals
and
families
to
take
advantage
of
the
property
and
the
24
percent
of
public
accessible,
open
space
sounds
like
a
grand
plan.
This
morning
I
volunteered
at
my
child's
school
for
culmination.
It
was
a
fantastic
day:
people
smiling
parents,
teachers
and
staff
glowing
with
joy,
but
what
happens
when
there's
nowhere
for
those
whose
children
have
grown
to
downsize?
What
happens
when
our
school's
enrollments
begin
to
decline
due
to
simply
lack
of
children
in
our
area?
S
Schools
are
beginning
to
close
teachers
and
staff
will
go
to
other
districts,
and
the
incredible
district
that
has
been
created
begins
to
crumble.
After
hearing
some
of
this
evening's
presentations,
a
child
care
center,
I'm
not
sure
if
any
of
you
have
ever
tried
to
get
child
care
in
our
area
area.
But,
honestly,
I
feel
really
bad
for
the
parents
who
have
just
have
a
small
children
and
are
trying
to
find
child
care
because
it
is
not
an
easy
task.
S
S
I
personally
have
said
it
to
my
husband
at
least
20
times
to
the
point
that
now
I'm
pretty
sure
he
just
rolls
his
eyes
as
me
at
me
as
we
drive
by
it's
time
to
stop
calling
it
the
old
kmart
and
it's
time
time
to
start
calling
it
teal
ranch.
Let's
take
the
opportunity
to
make
something
that
many
of
us
feel
has
been
an
eyesore
for
so
long
into
something
that's
going
to
grow
and
help
our
community
and
give
us
the
housing
that
we
need.
D
Evening,
thank
you.
I'm
karen
wilburn
a
newberry
park
resident.
I
also
represent
canelo
valley,
advocates
for
sensible
planning,
I'm
going
to
take
some
heat
from
my
commons
tonight.
The
key
to
our
name
is
sensible
planning,
and
I
see
many
community
benefits
in
this
proposal,
some
of
which
are
a
long-term
vacant
site
is
going
to
be
revived.
The
surrounding
neighborhood
is
primarily
industrial
retail
office
and
apartments
with
just
a
small
amount
of
single
family
homes.
D
Positioning
in
height
of
the
buildings
have
been
designed
to
minimize
the
visual
impact
to
the
existing
residential
properties.
Much
needed
housing
in
a
wide
variety
of
units
provides
options
for
families
of
all
sizes
and
ages.
It's
located
close
to
the
one
one
freeway
with
vehicle
access
not
having
to
go
through
residential
neighborhoods.
D
D
D
No
project
is
perfect
and
there's
always
going
to
be
some
drawbacks,
with
development
such
as
additional
traffic
infrastructure
needs,
and
not
to
forget
the
local
impact
on
the
the
impact
on
local
residents
during
the
actual
construction
process,
which
will
be
long.
I
don't
want
to
minimize
these
issues.
D
B
Thank
you.
We
move
on
now
to
catselm,
then
jackson,
piper,
then
janet
shoop,
miss
selm
good
evening.
Are
you
with
us.
B
N
Good
evening,
thank
you
to
members
of
the
planning,
commission
and
members
of
the
public.
My
name
is
jackson
piper.
I
live
in
unincorporated
newbury
park
and
I
have
no
financial
or
other
connection
to
this
project.
I
just
happen
to
think
that
this
is
a
good
project
that
would
greatly
benefit
the
city.
N
I
was
here
I
believe
two
years
ago,
or
so
when
the
initial
proposal
was
made
at
the
the
pre-screening,
and
I
am
very
happy
with
how
this
project
has
come
along.
I
don't
think
it's
perfect,
but
I
think
it
is
a
very
high
quality
project
and
it
will
offer
a
lot
to
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
I'm
thrilled
that
they
kept
the
50,
affordable
units
for
low-income
residents,
despite
cutting
the
unit's
total
unit,
count
down
to
420
units
and
that
they've
added
the
four
units
for
moderate
income
residents.
N
N
I
have
some-
I
guess
I
would
say
slight
design,
recommendations
or
critiques
about
the
project,
nothing
too
serious,
but
I
would
prefer
to
see
a
protected
bike
lane,
preferably
at
the
sidewalk
level,
instead
of
a
street
level
along
hampshire,
road
and,
I
believe,
there's
space
for
it.
If
the
city-
and
I
believe
this
would
be
under
the
city's
purview-
decides
to
narrow
hampshire
roads
lanes
from
12
feet
to
10
feet,
that's
still
plenty
of
space
for
cars
that
would
allow
for
four
extra
feet
to
be
recovered.
N
I'd
also
like
to
see
a
crosswalk
across
hampshire
to
the
other
side,
so
that
people
could
move
to
the
other
side
to
go
in
the
opposite
direction,
with
bikes
and
walking.
N
N
We
could
ask
them
to
make
it
a
spanish
colonial
style
or
some
other
sort
of
historic
style,
but
what
really
matters
is
that
this
kind
of
project
will
enable
more
units
that
are
within
reach
of
lower
income
residents
to
be
produced
within
the
city
than
has
been
produced
thus
far,
and
I
think
until
we
find
a
way
to
incentivize,
far
greater
affordable
unit
production.
This
is
a
very
good
start,
so
thank
you.
Please
approve
this
project.
Thank
you.
B
N
Good
evening,
commissioner,
I'm
actually
part
of
the
architectural
team,
so
I
have
no
comments
at
this
time.
B
D
Good
evening,
I
guess
I'm
in
the
minority
here
I'm
a
long
time
resident
over
50
years,
my
parents
came
here
in
69,
mary
came
in
62.
our
parents.
My
mother
fought
very
hard
to
get
the
slow
growth
path
and
protect
the
oak
trees
and
to
protect
this
town,
because
it
is
so
special.
D
D
D
D
They
say
you
need
surgery,
you
need
to
go
to
a
neurosurgeon
right
there
in
westlake,
thank
god,
ucla
came
in
and
and
took
over
the
empty
office
spaces
I
get
to.
I
call
get
an
appointment
for
surgery,
because
time
is
of
the
essence.
My
nerve
could
be
permanently
damaged.
If
I
don't
get
treatment,
I
called
to
get
an
appointment
30
days.
D
I
couldn't
get
in
to
see
him
for
another
30
days.
I
see
the
neurosurgeon,
he
said,
oh
janet,
it's
already
been
six
months.
We
need
to
get
you
into
surgery,
but
you
need
another
test.
I
need
another
mri.
It's
a
special
mri
but
they'll
take
care
of
you.
Just
go
a
few
miles
up
to
calabasas
and
they'll.
Take
care
of
you
call
right
away.
I
called
right
away.
It
was
a
month
I
was
in
tears.
I
am
I
done.
I
was
in.
D
D
B
E
Yes,
thank
you
chair
newman
and
members
of
the
planning
commission.
My
name
is
adam
haverstock
and
I'm
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
for
the
greater
kaneohe
valley
chamber
of
commerce,
for
the
record.
I
am
a
fort
worth
texas
resident
and
previously
was
a
moorpark
resident
for
20
years.
I
also
want
to
mention
that
imt
is
a
member
of
our
chamber
of
commerce.
E
The
young
professionals
who
would
likely
comprise
the
workforce
of
these
companies
need
market
rate
housing
to
live
in
and
a
downtown
to
enjoy
the
to
ranch
project
addresses
both
of
these.
Its
location
is
a
short
walk
from
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
it's
near
city
hall,
city
hall,
is
the
hub
for
the
city's
campus
master
plan
that
will
eventually
become
a
downtown
additionally
to
address
the
workforce
housing
issue.
This
project
will
add
420
housing
units,
including
50,
fixed
rate,
affordable
units
to
our
housing
supply.
E
Finally,
I
want
to
mention
that
the
to
ranch
site
was
a
kmart
decades
ago,
but
for
many
years
it
has
sat
vacant.
It
has
been
an
eyesore
of
the
community.
Imt
intends
to
replace
that
eyesore
with
a
beautiful
high
quality
community
asset
that
residents
of
teo
ranch
and
the
surrounding
community
will
enjoy.
T
T
T
In
addition,
a
summary
of
modifications
to
the
proposal
that
have
taken
place
during
the
approval
pathway,
such
as
additions,
affordable
housing
units,
improved
pedestrian
and
bike
safety
access
to
public
transit.
It
would
be
equally
helpful
to
see
a
list
of
modifications
that
reduced
a
project's
of
ability
to
reach
such
city
goals
during
the
proposal.
Pathway.
T
Examples
in
this
case
would
be
additions
to
affordable
units
that
have
taken
place,
since
the
original
proposal
was
made
to
the
city
and
reductions
of
units
to
provide
visual
setbacks.
As
is,
it
is
difficult
for
us
to
identify
these
changes
or
reflect
on
the
value
of
a
project
in
meeting
our
city
goals.
T
T
How
do
we
know
that
the
improvements
mentioned
in
the
presentation,
such
as
the
connector
to
the
open
space
trails,
but
not
listed
in
the
document,
will
be
noted
and
more
important
accomplished
to
ranch
is
going
to
be
a
great
place
to
live
and
a
significant
asset
to
the
community
things
that
I
especially
like
about
the
project.
More
housing
increased
density
that
is
inherently
more
affordable
than
single
family
homes,
underground
parking
mixed
use
that
stands
a
good
chance
of
being
successful.
T
Addition
of
quimby
fees
for
crpd
park
improvements,
all
electric
excellent
commitment
to
landscape
elements.
I
hope
that
we
can
look
more
closely
at
pedestrian
safety
by
raising
crosswalks
to
sidewalk
levels,
thus
creating
a
traffic
calming
effect.
Pedestrian
accidents
are
becoming
more
frequent
in
our
community
and
across
the
nation.
We
can
do
more
to
make
walking.
B
P
N
P
Neighborhood
here,
but
I
nor
the
canadian
climate
coalition
have
financial
interest
in
this
project.
We
at
the
canado
climate
coalition
would
like
to
thank
imt
for
the
multiple
meetings
to
review
and
discuss
sustainable
building
features
for
the
to
ranch
project.
The
resulting
project
truly
sets
the
bar
for
multi-family
developments
in
thousand
oaks.
As
a
community.
We
must
prepare
for
a
future
in
which
climate
change
plays
a
central
role.
The
teo
branch
project
will
be
mixed
use
and
highly
walkable,
which
has
the
potential
to
reduce
vehicle
miles
traveled
and
help
cut
down
on
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
P
Studies
have
shown
that
the
building
of
market
rate
units,
while
increasing
our
overall
housing
stock
in
california,
will
also
help
with
affordability
due
to
the
supply
effect.
That
being
said,
thousand
oaks,
sorry,
that
being
said
thousand
oaks
has
a
desperate
need
for
low-income
units
and
we're
extremely
pleased
to
see
that
the
project
includes
50,
affordable
residential
units
for
low-income
residents
and
four
units
as
moderate
income
households,
the
canal
climate
coalition,
supports
affordable
housing
in
the
level
of
building
density.
That
has
shown
has
been
shown
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
P
In
fact,
higher
density
developments
like
this
one
have
been
shown
to
produce
significantly
less
greenhouse
gas
emissions
compared
to
lower
density
developments.
We
believe
imt
has
reached
a
major
milestone
in
designing
sustainable
residential
buildings
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
other
builders
adopt
these
climate-saving
building
futures.
The
canadian
climate
coalition
enthusiastically
supports
this
project.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
B
O
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
jonathan
duran,
I'm
a
local
newberry
park
resident
I've
been
in
the
campbell
valley
now
for
about
10
years
born
and
raised
here
in
ventura
county.
But
again
my
name
is
jonathan
grant.
I'm
a
member
of
the
southwest
regional
council
of
carpenters
and
I'm
also
a
representative
of
a
local
805.
O
O
Most
of
these
projects
that
happen
in
our
city
and
in
the
county
most
of
the
workforce
comes
from
outside
the
area,
so
that
increases
the
greenhouse
gas
of
travel
time
traffic,
but
have
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
have
individuals.
Work
close
to
home
within
the
county
will
have
an
opportunity
for
to
be
able
to
work
here
and
have
the
money
have
a
compound
effect
to
be
able
to
have
the
money
go
right
back
into
the
some
of
other
things
that
we
heard
about
was
for
affordability.
O
We
all
know
that
these
apartments
here
in
thousand
oaks,
is
expensive,
single
apartments
about
2600
right
now,
here
in
a
thousand
oaks
and
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
building
these
apartments,
these
condos
can't
afford
to
even
stay
there.
So
why
not
have
individuals
that
are
going
to
be
building
be
a
part
of
a
credit
apprenticeship
program
have
an
opportunity
to
earn
a
good
local
wage
and
then
able
to
be
able
to
actually
rent
one
of
these
apartments
or
condos
out.
O
As
always,
I
know
it's
the
end
of
the
year
as
well.
A
lot
of
the
high
school
students
are
graduating
and
through
our
apprenticeship
program
with
the
southwest
region,
council
carpenters
gives
those
students
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
earn
why
they
learn
and
no
better
than
having
a
project
like
this
to
be
able
to
give
these
students
a
job
close
to
home
without
having
them
have
to
travel
outside
the
air
to
continue
in
a
trade
again.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
commissioners.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
sir,
and
I
lied
when
I
said
there
was
one
more
speaker.
We've
got
a
couple
more
robert
fallon,
if
he's
here
then
timothy
mcdougall,
and
if
she's
here
we'll
come
back
to
katzelm.
Mr
fallon,
are
you
with
us?
Yeah
can.
O
Good
evening
my
name
is
rob
fallon.
I
two
like
jonathan,
I'm
a
member
of
the
southwest
regional
council
of
carpenters
from
local
805.,
but
I
am
actually
a
working
member
in
the
field.
I
live
in
moorpark
and
right
now,
I'm
talking
to
you
on
my
phone
as
I
drive
home
racking
up
the
miles
because,
unfortunately
I
can
only
generally
find
work
in
los
angeles
or
like
today
down
in
long
beach.
So
what
I
ask
is,
as
you
guys
start
to
organize
thousand
oaks,
which
I
think
is
a
wonderful
idea.
O
O
Why
is
it
important?
Well
because
you
shouldn't
be
building
things
with
people
who
are
being
paid
too
little
that
can't
even
afford
to
live
in
the
area?
A
fine
example.
There
was
a
project
a
few
about
a
year
or
two
ago
over
in
simi
valley,
very
very
nice
apartments
on
patricia
avenue.
O
Instead
of
giving
it
to
basically
pushing
a
local
workforce
higher
clause,
they
basically
found
the
local
contractor,
so
say:
yeah,
you
could
do
the
job.
You
were
the
lowest
bid
that
contractor
went
and
subcontracted
it
to
a
company
in
texas,
sir.
The
guy
in
texas
brings
all
his
guys
over.
They
pay
him
low
wages.
O
This
is
money,
that's
not
spent
in
our
area,
it's
taxes
which
aren't
retained
in
our
area
and
then,
like
I
said
you
know,
it
leaves
us
people
who
are
local
having
to
rack
up
the
the
vehicle
miles,
travel
the
greenhouse
gases
to
go,
find
work
down
in
la
this
is
work
on
our
doorstep,
and
I
ask
you:
please:
do
consider
a
local
hiring
workforce
clause
and
a
prevailing
or
a
livable
wage
prevailing
wage
livable
wage.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
great
night.
O
Good
evening,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Thank
you,
chair
and
staff.
My
name
is
tim
mcdougall
and
I
am
a
resident
of
newbury
park.
My
purpose
tonight
is
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
staff
recommendation
to
approve
the
project
before
you
deny.
We
have
all
heard
the
call
for
an
improvement
of
this
property.
O
You
can't
have
a
conversation
with
someone
about
thousand
oaks
government
or
thousand
oaks.
You
know
development
stuff.
Without
someone
saying
what
about
the
kmart
property
well
before
you
tonight
is
an
opportunity
to
do
something
significant
for
our
community
and
those
people
that'll
be
here
long
after
we're
gone,
I
think
it's
a
great
recommendation
of
staff
to
call
for
this.
This
improvement
and
I
think
we
all
would
like
to
see
this
with
with
a
lot
of
there's
gonna,
be
challenges
right.
You
know,
so
I'm
just
speaking
to
you
from
the
heart.
O
I
am
not
involved
with
this
project
as
far
as
financially.
I
just
know
that
people
love
to
live
here
in
this
community.
We
all
feel
that
way
too,
and
I
think
it
is
consistent
with
the
objective
of
the
highest
and
best
use
of
the
land.
O
O
It's
also
compatible
with
the
surrounding
land
uses
its
design,
minimizes
the
impacts
to
the
surrounding
properties,
and
it
is
not
a
detriment
to
public
health,
safety
or
general
welfare.
I
think,
in
summary,
that
really
says
what
we
need
to
focus
on
here,
and
I
hope
that
you
can
all
join
with
me
and
support
this
initiative.
O
B
B
Excellent,
thank
you.
Okay.
We
will
go
now
back
to
staff
for
any
questions
or
any
any
follow-up
comments
on
what
we've
heard
from
the
applicant
and
from
the
public.
Mr
contreras.
H
Clarify
a
couple
comments
that
were
made
from
the
diets
about
the
other
two
mixed-use
projects
in
the
city,
1710
and
299.
It's
affectionately
referred
to
the
retail
spaces
for
299
have
been
pre-leased,
so
they
are
ready
to
go.
The
space
is
at
1710
the
front
retail
space
is
leased
and
it's
been
under
10
improvement
for
a
few
months.
So
that's
a
specialty
east
coast,
pizzeria
I'll,
be
going
in
there
soon,
and
then
we
have
a
bistro
and
negotiation
for
the
backspace,
so
those
will
be
occupied.
H
I
just
want
to
clarify
this
point.
Since
we
were
brought
up,
we've
been
working
with
imt
for
several
years
now,
we've
been
working
on
the
project.
That's
before
you
tonight,
there's
been
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
on
this
project.
H
It's
come
to
the
development
of
the
the
architectural
plans
that
you
see
before
you
tonight
and
the
concessions
that
they
made
in
response
to
city
council
comments,
as
well
as
staff's
direction,
I'm
very
confident
that
they
will
have
their
tenant
spaces
leased
as
soon
as
the
spaces
are
ready
to
be
improved.
H
H
F
Yes,
commissioners,
there
were
a
couple
of
comments
from
the
speakers
tonight
regarding
the
project
and
citywide
goals
not
being
listed
for
the
project.
The
city-wide
goals
were
made
in
the
project,
findings
that
were
provided
to
you
in
the
resolution
and
ordinances
for
the
project.
Specifically,
the
the
specific
plan
ordinance
identifies
these
city-wide
goals.
F
Another
comment
was
made
regarding
a
summary
of
modifications.
Staff
did
provide
that
in
the
in
the
presentation
here
tonight,
you've
heard
from
not
only
the
planning
staff,
but
also
from
the
applicant
team,
all
the
various
modifications
that
have
been
proposed
for
the
project
since
the
the
concept
was
before
the
city
council
in
may
of
2020..
F
The
the
resolution
before
you
tonight
does
have
specific
conditions
of
approval
tying
the
proposed
project
on
design
to
the
project
plans
that
are
before
you
tonight.
So,
although
they
do
have
a
specific
design
for
the
proposed
project
and
a
design
layout,
that
includes
paseos
trails
and
connectivity
to
the
trail
nearby.
F
It
also
features
a
conceptual
landscape
plan
that
demonstrates
the
connectivity
and
there
is
the
lowest
robust
trail
within
150
feet
of
the
project
site
and,
as
previously
mentioned,
the
overall
concept
was
to
include
a
design
that
provides
that
smooth
transition
from
the
on-site
connectivity
to
the
los
robles
trail
to
the
southwest,
which
is
already
existing.
F
There
was
another
comment
regarding
adding
traffic
calming
measures
to
the
proposed
project,
as
stated
in
page
11
of
the
staff
report
that
was
provided
for
you
tonight.
The
project
does
include
traffic
calling
measures
within
the
interior
portions
of
the
project
site.
They
do
include
raised
sidewalks
between
the
mixed
use,
buildings
and
the
townhomes,
so
it
can
reduce
vehicle
speeds
internally,
and
we
did
mention
that
the
project
does
include
right
turn
lanes
into
the
subterranean
parking
structures
which
will
improve
safety
off
of
hampshire
road
onto
the
subject
site.
F
What
she
was
probably
likely
referring
to
was
the
adding
of
the
density
bonus
units
on
top
of
the
329
base
units
which,
ultimately,
if
you
look
at
at
the
420
total
units
for
the
project,
yes,
that
would
be
42
20
units
for
the
acre,
but
per
state
law.
We
we
calculated
off
of
the
the
base
density,
which
is
the
329
units
at
30
units
of
the
acre,
and
that's
it
for
staffs
of
responses.
J
Thank
you,
carlos
yes,
and
there
was
a
comment
about
protected
bike
lanes
on
hampshire
class,
two
bike
lanes.
We
had
some
discussion
with
the
commissioners
about
that
earlier
and
as
as
indicated
at
the
next
time
that
hampshire
road
is
scheduled
to
be
overlaid
and
resurfaced,
we
will
evaluate
that,
as
we
are
on
every
street.
Looking
at
the
current
most
current
possibilities
and
considerations
that
are
out
there,
I
can't
say
that
we
do
not
have
10
foot
lanes
anywhere
in
the
city,
then
the
narrowest
we've
went
on.
J
Arterials
is
11
and
that's
on
lynn,
road
and
herbalism.
A
few
others
10
starts
getting
quite
quite
tight.
So
we
have
to
kind
of
monitor
that
and
see
particularly
with
a
higher
speed
street,
so
but
that's
all
to
be
determined
at
that
time
and
this
project
isn't
being
constructed
tomorrow.
So
there's
there's
time
to
evaluate
all
these
things.
Thank
you.
K
If
I
made
sure
just
to
add
a
couple
things,
and
and
to
mr
hadary's
comments,
just
to
be
very
clear-
the
the
concept
of
the
bike
lanes
and
and
considering
that
is
not
within
the
planning
commission's
purview
for
tonight.
Certainly
it's
something
for
the
circulation
element
and
the
general
plan
that
we
will
be
working
on
and
we
are
working
on
very
diligently.
So
we
would
be
looking
at
that
at
that
point
in
time.
K
All
these
councils
suggested
all
these
types
of
concepts
or
ideas
or
amenities
for
the
project
and
to
applicants,
credit,
and
I
don't
do
not
say
that
lightly
to
their
credit,
they
worked
with
staff
across
the
table
to
come
up
with
certain
things
that
we
could
add
to
the
benefit
of
this
project,
to
the
residents
who
might
live
there
into
the
community
as
a
whole.
And
to
your
point
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
ask
for,
and
we
asked
for.
K
It
was
a
something
of
a
learning
center,
a
spot
where
they
could
designate
a
room
for
the
potential
of
of
tutoring
for
the
potential
of
of
individuals
going
in
there
for
some
meetings
or
to
study
have
a
quiet
area
to
do.
Studying
that
won't
have
other
distractions
that
you
might
have
in
a
complex
right,
and
so
that
was
something
that
we
asked
for,
and
they
agreed
to
do
that
as
part
of
the
development
agreement
as
something
that
they
are
going
to
provide.
K
K
But
there
was
a
question
regarding
the
term,
the
d.a
term
and
again
that
the
total
term
of
the
development
agreement
is
seven
years.
That's
you
know,
that's
something.
We
negotiate
it's
partly
it's
about.
How
much
time
do
you
think
you
need
with
some
flexibility
with
you
know
things
that
can
happen
in
our
world
or
that
affect
our
ability
to
to
do
construction
in
a
timely
manner.
K
You
probably
recognize
that
name
as
we
received
a
couple
of
letters
from
an
attorney
for
that
union
and
to
be
very
clear
that
attorney
made
comments
about
the
eir
that
were
evaluated.
K
Rincon
did
an
excellent
and
thorough
job
in
reviewing
those
comments,
including
this
concept
of
localhire
as
they've
requested.
K
Again,
that's
something
for
council
to
consider
if
they
want
to,
but
as
for
the
eir
based
on
all
the
review
and
it's
in
the
section
of
0-4
4.1
and
dash
2
3
4
5,
6,
7,
8,
there's
a
number
of
them
because
it's
a
long
letter
it
was
evaluated
and
the
answer
was
it
didn't
impact
greenhouse
gas
analysis.
It
didn't
impact
the
eir,
and
so
in
that
sense
it's
very
important
to
note
that
that
was
evaluated
and
it
had
no
impact
on
the
total
analysis.
K
C
C
From
my
perspective,
having
worked
in
this
field
for
50
years,
I
do
want
to
say,
though
you
all
brought
up
several
different
points
that
will
be
informing
our
process
as
we
move
forward
for
the
general
plan
update
how
these
opportunity
sites
and
these
new
neighborhoods
fit
into
context
that
weren't
necessarily
planned
50
years
ago,
or
this
type
of
development
is
very
important
to
note
and
how
we
integrate
that
and
provide
services
for
it
in
the
future
is
going
to
be
a
challenge
and
an
opportunity
that
we'll
address
in
the
new
general
plan.
So
thank
you.
B
B
M
B
E
Sure
sure
I
think
staff
as
well
as
the
applicant
have
assuaged
all
my
concerns
with
regard
to
access.
I
did
I'm
not
gonna
lie.
E
Although
I
will
say
that
it's
quite
creative
and
scary
to
use
a
man
and
a
child
on
a
tricycle
immediately
adjacent
to
a
street
that
carries
18
000
vehicles
per
day.
So
why?
I
applaud
your
creativity.
I
would
probably
report
that
gentleman
for
endangering
his
child.
E
That
said,
that
doesn't
particularly
help
the
city's
issue
with
respect
to
a
tight
diamond
interchange
that
caltrans
was
very
fond
of
constructing
back
in
the
60s,
so
unfortunately
that's
the
city's
problem
and
not
the
developers
problem
so
that
will
get
fixed
eventually,
just
it's
caltrans
need,
I
say
more
with
that
said,
really
get
myself
in
trouble
here.
I
would
be
willing
to
support
the
project
and
I
would
like
to
love
to
figure
out
a
way
of
actually
making
a
motion
for
this.
So
let
me
see
what
I
can
do
here.
E
I
will
make
a
motion
to
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
approval
to
the
city
council
for
general
plan:
amendment
lu
2021-70215
zone
change,
z,
2021-70216,
specific
plan,
sp
2021-70397
development
agreement,
dagr
2021-70399
development
permit
db2021-70214,
a
lot
line
adjustment,
lla
2021-70398,
protect
the
tree,
permit
ptp
2021-70400
and
the
adoption
of
the
draft
environmental
impact
report.
Eir
2021-70442.
L
Something
that
is
really
important
to
me
is
creating
a
sense
of
community
that
is
so
important
and
it
appears
from
everything
I've
read
and
everything.
I've
heard,
that's
what
imt
has
done
with
our
project.
It's
it's
it's
beautiful
and
the
way
it's
designed
to
create
a
place
for
the
residents
to
live
and
to
have
a
community
feel
and
to
gather
and
have
people
come
and
walk
with
them
and
eat
with
them.
L
I
I
like
that,
a
lot
and
and
when
you
talk
about
highest
and
best
use
of
the
land,
which
is
what
some
of
one
of
our
speakers
said.
I
think
this
is
it.
It
gives
us
affordable
housing.
It
gives
us
moderate
housing,
it
gives
us
live
work
units
and
it's
they've
done
what
they
could
to
accommodate
what
our
city
needs
with
the
environmentally
lead
design.
It's
got,
they
went
back
and
they
recess
the
fourth
fourth
story.
I
think
it
helps
the
business
community
with
their
employees,
I'm
trying
to
find
something.
L
I
I
The
fact
that
you
were
responsive
to
not
only
obviously
the
comments
from
the
city
council
as
part
of
the
allocation
process.
It
sounds
like
you
worked
with
the
staff
extensively.
I
You
work
with
mr
fredel
and
mr
hair
to
make
sure
they
solve
their
issue.
You
went
through
and
one
by
one
won
over
almost,
it
seems
every
single
person,
that's
spoken
as
part
of
this
process,
including
many
members
of
the
community
and
mr
fultz,
and
and
and
dr
connolly
and
lots
of
other
people.
So
I
commend
you
for
being
responsive
for
engaging
in
the
community
for
presenting
a
project
that
was
a
culmination
of
lots
of
different
involvement
with
different
people
working
with
the
staff.
I
I
heard
nothing
but
good
comments
by
virtue
of
of
this
discussion.
So,
irrespective
of
whether
I
vote
like
or
don't
like
the
project,
I
wish
more
developers
that
come
before
us
would
do
exactly
what
all
of
you
did
in
terms
of
getting
that
process
done.
It
was
a
it
was
nice
thing
to
see
in
terms
of
being
collaborative
in
that
regard
as
the
project
I
was
looking
at
the
conclusion
of
the
staff
report
and,
and
again
I
always
start
off
again.
I
My
my
mentality
is
as
a
planning,
commissioner,
I
am
in
charge
with
enforcing
rules
and
regulations,
I'm
not
a
legislative
person.
I'm
not
here
to
you
know,
make
those
kind
of
decisions.
That's
that's
for
the
city
council,
but
I
read
the
first
sentence
of
the
conclusion.
The
proposed
project
has
been
designed
to
meet
the
intent
of
the
city's
standards,
codes
and
policies,
and
that's
really
what
I
went
through
as
part
of
my
questioning
was.
I
This
did
follow
pretty
much
most
of
the
codes
rules
and
regulations
of
the
city
and
and
where
it
didn't,
initially,
modifications
were
made
to
fit
within
those.
So
it's
one
of
those
things
where
I
don't
see
a
whole
lot
of
procedural
things
that
I
can
say
sorry,
that's
that
wasn't
done
right.
So
therefore
you're
out
of
the
out
of
the
park
on
that
issue.
There
are
some
discretionary
issues
that
we
have
in
terms
of
obviously
protected
trees.
I
Obviously,
the
noise
mitigation
issue
with
regard
to
the
construction,
I
find
all
of
those
factors
weigh
in
in
heavily
in
favor
of
this
project.
Yes,
it's
going
to
cause
issues
and
yes,
I
know
one
speaker:
mashup
was
very
upset
that
we're
slow
growth.
Well,
we
are
slow
growth,
we've
added,
almost
nobody
to
our
city.
In
10
years
we
had,
I
think,
a
total
of
six
new
housing
units
last
year.
I
If
you
take
out
the
units
for
adus
and
houses
that
were
repaired
by
fire,
we
we
added
six
new
units,
and
I
know
there
was
an
article
by
the
way
in
the
acorn
about
the
fact
of
you
know
the
city
only
approved
a
certain
or
you
know,
33
or
whatever
it
was
affordable
units.
Again,
we
only
can
talk
about
what's
presented
to
us.
We
can't
make
up
units
out
of
nowhere.
We
can't
all
of
a
sudden
push
people
to
present
us
with
units.
I
This
provides
a
huge
number
of
affordable
units
which
satisfies
the
state
requirements
that
we
are
obligated
to
comply
with.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
went
through
that
zoning
process
that
we
spent
a
very
very
long
time
going
through
what
felt
like
every
single
property
in
the
city
and
this
by
the
way
this
project
complies
with
that
process.
So
it's
literally
already
fitting
within
the
scope
of
what
the
general
plan
would
be.
So
again,
I
I
I
like
the
project.
It
looks
good.
It
fits
in
the
concept.
I
It's
also
one
of
the
opportunity
areas.
We
had
six
that
were
basically
sitting
doing
nothing,
and
this
is
a
good
strategic
repurposing
of
this
property,
from
nothing
literally,
nothing
to
something
that
will
be
functional.
It'll
provide
workforce,
housing,
it'll,
give
again
housing
options.
That's
what
I
think
we're
missing
in
the
city
right
now
is
housing
options.
G
All
right,
I
think
everybody
has
said
all
this
much
more
eloquently
than
me
so
I'll
just
reminisce
a
bit.
I
I
remember
when
the
kmart
was
open.
One
speaker
tonight
said
they
got
here
in
the
60s.
My
wife
got
her
in
the
70s.
I
got
here
in
the
80s
I
used
to
buy
my
steel-toed
boots
to
go
to
work
from
that
kmart
there
and
I
remember
driving
out
and
that
incredible
slope
down
onto
hampshire.
G
Sometimes
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
see
somebody
coming
the
other
way,
especially
in
my
big
pickup
truck,
and
so
I
suspect
that
what
you've
designed
is
going
to
be
significantly
safer
for
both
pedestrians,
cars
and
bikes,
regardless
of
how
many
improvements
we
put
around
it.
However,
that
spot
has
been
empty
for
18
years
and
for
those
of
us
who
have
been
around
a
long
time
in
slow
growth.
G
I
think
the
era
that
we
all
experience
is
coming
to
an
end
and
one
of
the
things
I
like
about
this
project
is
that
you're
talking
about
creating
a
a
sense
of
community,
as
commissioner
mcmahon
said,
a
place
where
people
can
live
and
experience
their
lives
and
have
social
interactions
and
all
of
it
be
within
the
scope
of
an
area,
and
I
think
that
that's
very
forward
thinking,
I
think
that's
the
world
that
we're
going
towards,
and
it's
perhaps
not
a
familiar
one
for
a
lot
of
us
who
have
who
have
gone
through
our
lives
in
the
era
of
cars,
especially
in
southern
california
and
their
car
culture.
G
And
so
I'm
I'm
very
excited
to
to
see
what
what
you
guys
have
done
and
I'm
very
hopeful.
This
project
gets
built.
We've
approved
a
few
things
recently
and
just
because
you're
local.
I
have
a
little
more
confidence
that
that
this
project
will
actually
happen
and
I'm
very
excited
for
it.
I'm
very
hopeful
that
that
it
comes
to
fruition,
and
with
that
I
will
definitely
say
I
support
it
strongly
as
well.
B
B
B
B
There's
a
lot
I
like
about
this
project.
I
I
echo
the
comments
of
basically
everyone
else
in
that.
I'm
glad
to
see
that
something
finally
is
happening
on
this
site
after
18
years.
I
think
it's
been
since
kmart
closed.
Some
of
that
was
due
to
a
private
company's
obstinance,
but
it's
it's
on
our
watch.
You
know
as
city
planners
it's
it's
it's
imperative
for
us
to
create
conditions
for
us
to
move
forward
with
land
use
that
benefits
everyone
in
the
city,
and
I
think
we're
doing
that
tonight.
B
We're
doing
that
in
a
way
that
is
environmentally
beneficial,
as
the
applicant
has
testified.
We're
replacing
a
hardscape
with
a
much
greener
set
set
of
there
will
be
more
trees.
There
will
be
more
permeable
surfaces.
This
is
a
better
enviro,
better
replacement
for
the
environment
than
what
sat
there
idle
for
18
years
speaking
of
environment.
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
that
this
is
a
lead,
a
lead
building,
particularly
the
part
about
it
being
an
all-electric
building.
That's
that's
very
forward-thinking.
B
B
And
all
of
that-
and
I
like
I
like
this
idea
of
the
learning
center-
it's
a
useful
thing,
especially
with
so
many
parents
and
and
and
just
anyone
in
the
workforce
really
having
these
flexible
schedules.
Now,
that's
a
very
useful
facility
to
have
the
only
the
only
real
concern
I
have
on
this
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
around
affordable
and
and
again
just
to
be
clear.
We're
talking
about
people
a
family
of
four
making,
a
hundred
thousand
three
hundred
fifty
dollars
a
year.
B
It's
very
good
that
there
are
this
many
affordable
units.
Here
I
mean
one
way
we
could
look
at.
This
is
to
say
that's
50
units,
it's
the
I.
As
far
as
I
know,
the
most
we've
done
in
any
project,
certainly
on
in
my
time
on
the
planning,
commission
and
that's
terrific,
that's
very
good,
and
we
should
be
proud
of
that.
B
Another
way
to
look
at
that
is
that
88
of
them
are
not
accessible
to
our
neighbors,
our
friends,
who
make
that
hundred
thousand
three
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
or,
if
you're,
a
single
person,
seventy
thousand
dollars
there
are
lots
of
those
in
the
community.
B
I
commend
mr
cohen
here
he's
a
very
good
lawyer.
He's
done
an
excellent
job
of
working
with
our
staff
of
representing
his
applicant
he's
a
hard
bargainer
and
he
would
not
go
back
to
his
client,
the
applicant
and
say
I'm
sorry.
I
only
got
you
half
a
loaf
or
I
only
got
you
a
quarter
of
a
loaf.
B
Well,
our
job
here
as
representatives
of
the
residents
of
the
city,
is
also
to
drive
a
bargain
and
we're
here
to
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council.
My
recommendation
to
the
city
council
is:
do
more
than
12
percent.
Don't
don't
settle
for
a
half
a
low
for
a
quarter
of
a
loaf?
We
we
have
real,
affordable
needs
here,
don't
do
an
eighth
of
a
loaf,
which
is
what
we're
looking
at
here.
I'm
not
I'm
not
suggesting
this
project
should
be
100,
affordable.
It
wouldn't
make
economic
sense.
B
I'm
saying
that
we
as
a
city
have
to
find
ways
to
find
housing
for
people
who
make
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
we're
failing
our
residents.
If
we
don't.
I
don't
want
to
put
that
all
on
you,
the
applicant.
I
appreciate
all
that
you've
done
to
make
a
good
faith
effort
to
get
us
to
50
units
in
one
project
and
that's
a
very
good
thing,
but
I
am
recommending
to
council
that
we
we
don't
accept
that
as
a
ceiling
that
we
do,
that
we
negotiate
more.
B
B
We
just
we
need
to
do
more
on
that,
so
I'm
going
to
get
off
my
soapbox
now
about
affordable
housing,
but
it
is
a
concern
I
have
not
just
for
this
project
but
for
all
projects,
as
I
enumerated
a
lot
of
other
things
I
like
about
the
project,
I
think,
on
balance,
when
I
look
at
any
application
here,
the
question
is:
is
it
mainly
benefiting
the
applicant
or
is
it?
Is
it
genuinely
benefiting
all
residents
of
the
city,
and
my
judgment
on
this
project
is
that
it
overwhelmingly
is
beneficial
to
our
city.
B
In
many
ways,
it's
good,
it's
good
for
local
residents
who
need
housing,
it's
good
for
local
businesses
so,
and-
and
I
hope
it
does
genuinely
make
us
a
more
walkable
pedestrian,
friendly
bike
friendly
city.
So,
for
all
those
reasons,
I
too
will
support
the
project,
and
I
will
ask
now
that
the
secretary
prepare
us
for
a
vote.
Please.
C
B
Okay
and
I'll
just
note
that
there
is
no
appeal
on
no
appeal
period
on
this
project,
given
that
this
is
a
recommendation
by
the
planning
commission
to
the
city
council,
and
with
that
I
will
adjourn
the
meeting.
Thank
you
all
again
and
we're
now
adjourned
to
our
next
regular
meeting,
which
is
in
five
days
we'll
see
you
june
13th.
Thank
you
and
good
evening.