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Description
Planning Commission Meeting 6/13/22
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D
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Supplemental
packet,
2
was
additional
correspondence
received
this
afternoon
since
the
printing
of
the
packet,
and
then
we
actually
received
a
couple
more
comments
after
four
today
on
the
project.
Eir
and
our
consultants
and
staff
are
currently
evaluating
the
comments
and
provide
responses
to
those
comments
prior
to
the
city
council
hearing,
and
that's
all
for
that.
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B
B
The
speaker's
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
commission
as
a
whole
and
not
to
an
individual
commissioner
or
staff
member
unless
otherwise
provided
by
the
commission.
Speakers
are
limited
to
five
minutes.
The
screen
will
show
you
the
remaining
time
you
have
madame
secretary.
Do
we
have
any
public
comments.
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C
Hearing
having
been
advertised
is
required
by
laws
hereby
open
to
consider
agenda
item
7a
municipal
code,
amendment
mca
2022-704-30,
to
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
that
city
council
introduce
an
ordinance
amending
thousand
oaks
municipal
code,
title
ix
by
adopting
new
zoning
provisions
which
will
replace
cannabis
retailer
medical
with
cannabis
retailer
as
permitted
product
to
sell
from
a
permitted
retail
establishment
located.
Citywide.
The
applicant
is
city
of
thousand
oaks.
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F
So
a
little
background
information
for
you,
as
you
may
recall,
in
november,
2017
council
allowed
one
medical
dispensary
and
one
testing
lab
to
operate
within
the
m1
zone
classification
among
many
qualified
applicants
in
july
of
2018
citi
selected,
the
top
candidate
legendary
organics
to
operate
as
city's
sole
medical
dispensary
leaf.
Dispensary
came
in
as
the
runner-up
in
december.
2019
council
opted
to
allow
a
second
dispensary
in
the
city
and
in
january,
2020
leaf,
which
was
the
runner-up
in
the
process,
was
selected
as
the
second
dispensary.
F
On
february
4th
2022
both
dispensaries
began
their
operations
two
weeks
following
their
opening.
Both
dispensaries
expressed
concerns
about
the
medical
only
stating
that
not
allowing
the
sale
of
adult
use
cannabis
products
under
the
current
medical
restriction
would
cause
their
businesses
great
financial
hardship.
F
Both
dispensaries
demonstrated
that
the
number
of
people
who
walk
out
of
their
establishment
due
to
the
medical,
only
restrict
restriction,
exceeds
the
number
of
patrons
who
stay
and
shop
because
of
this
unforeseen
circumstance.
In
march
2022,
the
dispensaries
asked
the
city
for
a
municipal
code
amendment
to
allow
the
sale
of
adult
use
cannabis
products
to
to
those
over
the
age
of
21,
in
addition
to
the
sale
of
medicinal
cannabis
products
to
those
who
possess
a
medical
card.
F
On
april
12
2022
council
heard
a
report
from
staff
listened
to
testimony
from
both
operators
and
initiated
the
mca
directing
staff
to
draft
an
ordinance
to
allow
the
sale
of
adult
use.
Retail
cannabis
since
part
of
the
cannabis
use
amendment
requires
certain
minor
zoning
changes.
We
are
here
before
you
to
ask
for
your
recommendation
of
approval
of
the
changes
to
the
zoning
ordinance.
F
This
process
ultimately
requires
the
changes
to
take
place
in
two
stages.
In
stage.
One
staff
is
asking
the
commission
to
recommend
to
city
council
to
amend
the
definition
and
the
zoning
matrix
portions
of
the
title
ix.
The
recommendation
to
amend
title
ix
is
the
only
piece
that
is
within
the
commission's
purview
to
discuss
tonight
stage.
Two
of
the
amendment
is
the
regulatory
element
that
will
be
considered
by
city
council
on
june
28
2022.
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G
Thank
you
chairman.
I
just
kind
of
have
a
a
brief
question.
Ms
bizzotti,
I
believe
that,
ultimately,
when
we
passed
the
city
passed
the
initial
rules,
the
the
the
state
had
a
certain
thing
that
allowed
cities
to
actually
have
brick
and
mortar
in
in
and
and
not
allow
other
dispensaries
to
sell
across
county
lines
or
city
lines
and
that
changed
correct
afterwards.
G
It
just
it
sounds
like
from
your
report
that,
ultimately,
the
dispensary
is
having
problems
now,
because
other
dispensaries
are
or
other
businesses
are
then
driving
across
county
and
city
lines,
to
sell
to
people
within
the
city.
That,
ultimately,
is
then
taking
a
lot
of
their
potential
business
away.
Correct!
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
no
further
questions.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Are
there
other
questions
or
comments
for
staff?
I
just
want
to
clarify
just
to
be
sure
I
understand
what
what
the
law
currently
does
and
doesn't
allow.
Following
up
on
commissioner
lanson's
comment,
I
think
the
stuff,
if
I
understood
the
staff
report
correctly,
you
were
saying
that
the
current
situation
is
that
retailers
outside
the
city
are
currently
making
deliveries
city-wide
correct,
but
that
under
current
law,
our
thousand
oaks
based
retailers
are
not
is
that
is
that
an.
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F
K
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B
L
I
will
say
that
this
is
probably
long
overdue.
Considering
we've
been
working
on
this
for
almost
five
six
years
now,
I
think
it's
wonderful
that
we've
given
the
opportunity
for
our
city
to
increase
its
tax
revenue
to
allow
two
businesses
to
actually
thrive
in
this
community
that
we
have
hamstrung
by
restrictive
laws,
and
I'm
grateful
that
we
get
to
play
a
small
part
in
it.
G
Thank
you,
chair
newman.
I
will
support
the
motion
as
well.
I'm
you
know
again
it's
beyond
our
purview,
but
I'm
frustrated
between
the
federal
and
state
government
that
we
have
all
of
these
weird
things.
We
have
to
sit
there
and
manipulate
and
move
around
in
terms
of
the
coal
memo,
and
is
it
legal?
Is
it
not
illegal?
Do
states
allow
it
and
stuff
like
that
and
again
it's
so
frustrating,
because
we
obviously
are
just
basically
subject
to
what
they're
doing
so.
G
E
B
B
It's
not
fair
to
commissioner
mcmann's
point
that
our
licensed
retailers
here
have
jumped
through
every
hoop
and
are
obeying
the
rules,
and
we
like
that,
but
they're
currently
at
a
disadvantage,
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
we're
correcting
this
in
some
small
way.
So
if
the
clerk
would
please
prepare
us
for
a
vote.
D
B
C
Division,
ld
2021-70557
protected
tree
permit
ptp,
2021-70559
development
agreement,
dagr
2022-70052,
to
approve
the
applications
outlined
to
construct
four
multi-family
residential
buildings
with
a
total
of
264
residential
units,
including
34,
affordable
units,
subterranean
parking,
surface
parking,
one
four-story,
parking
structure,
amenities,
grading,
hardscaping
and
landscaping,
including
removal
and
encroachment
into
the
protected
zone
of
various
oak
and
landmark
trees
on
site.
The
project
contains
a
land
division
to
create
two
parcels
parcel
one
encompassing
eight
point:
nine
acres
and
parcel
two
encompass
encompassing
34.1
acres.
C
The
project
includes
a
specific
plan
with
the
implementation
of
the
two
planning
areas
planning
area,
one
multi-family
residential
is
proposed
to
be
located
within
parcel
one
and
planning
area.
Two
existing
industrial
office
building
and
proposed
parking
structure
is
proposed
to
be
located
within
parcel
two.
The
applicant
also
requests
that
the
planning
commission
consider
the
draft
environmental
impact
report
prepared
for
the
project
in
accordance
with
the
california
environmental
quality
act
located
at
one
baxter
way.
Assessors
parcel
numbers,
680-0-230-695.
M
Good
evening,
chair
members
of
the
planning
commission,
the
project
before
you
tonight
is
a
request
to
construct
a
residential
multi-family
development
and
also
a
four-story
parking
structure
at
one
baxter
way
before
we
proceed
into
the
project.
Details
and
evaluation
staff
would
like
to
go
over
staff's
recommendation
on
the
project
that
is
before
the
planning
commission
tonight
staff
has
recommended.
M
M
M
Here's
the
aerial
photograph
of
the
subject,
property,
giving
you
a
an
idea
and
sense
of
the
project
site
and
the
surrounding
development
to
the
east.
You
have
lake
buchanan
road
to
the
south.
You
have
the
101
freeway
and
to
the
west.
Beyond
the
promenade,
at
west
lake
you
have
west
lake
boulevard
and
to
the
north
you
have
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and,
as
this
aerial
photograph
demonstrates,
you
have
an
existing
industrial
building
at
the
southern
portion
of
the
subject
site
and
you
have
surface
level
parking
within
the
northern
portion
of
the
property.
M
M
M
M
The
orange
square
on
the
south
western
portion
of
the
site
is
where
the
proposed
four-story
parking
structure
will
be
located
to
the
north.
You
have
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
you
have
beyond
that
open
space
and
you
have
a
school
to
the
northeast
and
beyond
that
you
have
some
open
space.
You
do
have
existing
industrial
uses
to
the
east
beyond
lakeview
canyon,
road
and
you
do
have
the
101
freeway
to
the
south,
and
you
have
the
existing
commercial
uses
at
the
promenade
to
the
west
and
then
west
lake
boulevard.
M
Beyond
that,
the
blue
circles
here
identified
on
this
aerial
photograph,
are
existing
bus
locations
that
are
near
the
the
subject
property
again.
This
is
demonstrating
the
proposed
concept
for
this
multi-family
residential
development
within
close
proximity
of
public
transit
and
also
various
commercial
and
industrial
uses
nearby.
M
M
Here's
an
existing
view
of
the
subject
property,
as
you
see
it
from
lakeview
canyon,
road
towards
the
west.
Where
you
see
here,
the
mature
landscaping,
that's
existing
around
the
perimeter
of
the
property
of
the
various
trees
on
the
subject
site,
where
you
see
the
vehicles
parked
currently
right
now
is
where
they
propose.
Multi-Family
residential
buildings
would
be
cited
towards
the
left
you
can
see
here
beyond
the
mature
landscaping
is
the
existing
industrial
office,
building
known
as
baxter
way.
M
Here's
an
existing
view
of
the
subject
property.
To
give
you
some
perspective
as
it's
viewed
from
the
101
freeway,
this
is
going
northbound
on
the
101.
Looking
at
the
subject
site
there,
you
can
see
the
existing
industrial
office
building
on
the
expansive
lawn
area
that
it's
a
buffer
between
the
101
and
the
existing
industrial
building.
M
Thereafter,
the
applicant
team
submitted
the
pre-application
with
revised
set
of
project
plans
in
june
of
2021.
The
the
applicant
team
and
staff
met
to
provide
comments
on
the
proposed
project
and
make
all
the
necessary
revisions
to
bring
the
project
in
alignment
with
the
city's
co-standards
ordinances
and
also
city
council's
direction.
M
M
So
what
the
applicant
did
in
order
to
make
those
modifications
to
the
project
they
increased
the
affordable
component
from
29,
affordable
units
at
34
units.
They
included
a
learning
and
tutoring
room
for
the
residential
component
of
the
project,
and
they
also
include
enhanced
sustainable
features
for
the
proposed
project.
M
Here's
an
overview
of
where
we
are
tonight
this
this.
This
is
demonstrated
graphically
here
to
show
the
many
steps
in
the
planning
review
process.
The
initial
step
was
the
pre-screening
where
the
264
units
were
allocated
allocated
thereafter.
The
pre-application
was
submitted
to
iron-out
development
requirements
and
project
specifics.
M
M
As
far
as
a
project
overview
and
the
details,
here's
the
project
site
plan
again,
it's
a
42.9
acre
site
on
the
southern
portion
of
the
property.
You
have
the
40,
the
34.1
acres
on
one
on
one
parcel,
which
is
parcel
two
planning
area,
two,
where
you
see
the
existing
industrial
office
building
and
the
expansive
lawn
area
and
where
the
proposed
four-story
parking
structure
would
be
located
on
the
southwestern
portion
of
the
property
towards
the
northern
portion
of
the
property.
You
have
the
four
multi-family
residential
buildings.
M
M
Here
is
the
conceptual
landscape
plan,
as
the
conceptual
landscape
plan
demonstrates,
you
have
the
with
the
proposed
project.
Some
amenities
include
poolside
terrace.
You
also
have
residential
common
areas.
You
have
an
expansive
pocket
park
in
between
the
multi-family
residential
and
the
parking
structure,
provided
you
have
various
trails
that
bisect
the
property
connecting
the
the
pedestrians
from
not
only
the
project
site
to
the
promenade,
but
also
to
lakeview
canyon
road.
M
All
landscape
plants
shall
demonstrate
compliance
with
the
state,
california
model,
water
efficiency,
landscape,
ordinance
known
as
mwelo
and
prior
to
issuance
of
a
grading
permit
and
building
permits.
The
applicant
would
be
required
to
complete
landscape
and
irrigation
plans,
reflecting
compliance
with
all
imposed
conditions
of
the
project
entitlements
for
review.
M
M
M
As
far
as
the
impacts
to
protected
trees
resulting
from
the
project,
the
project
site
supports
430,
protected
trees,
which
include
325
oak
trees,
104
sycamore
trees
and
one
black
walnut
tree.
The
project
the
proposed
project,
includes
the
removal
of
31
protected
trees
of
those
it's
three
coast
live
oaks,
two
valley,
oaks
and
26
sycamores.
M
The
removals
are
a
result
of
the
proposed
residential
structures
outlined
here
in
the
red
square
and
the
four
parking
structures
or
the
four-story
parking
structure
outlined
in
the
red
circle.
The
project
also
includes
encroachment
into
the
protected
zone
of
63
oak
trees.
35
of
those
are
n35
sycamores
and
one
black
walnut
due
to
the
31
removals.
M
If
the
site
cannot
accommodate
the
planting
of
all
the
required
mitigation
trees,
the
community
development
department
director
may
approve
planting
of
the
trees
at
an
off-site
location
for
public
benefit
or
provide
an
in-lieu
cash
payment
to
the
city's
open
space
endowment
fund.
Therefore,
with
the
inclusion
of
the
recommended
conditions,
this
request
will
not
be
contrary
to
or
in
conflict
with,
the
general
purpose
of
the
city's
oak
tree
ordinance
and
oak
tree
preservation
and
protection
guidelines.
M
Here's
an
elevation
of
the
proposed
multi-family
residential,
as
demonstrated
here
the
average
building
height
for
building
a
is
approximately
34
feet.
The
architecture
is
a
contemporary
modern
style
with
building
materials
that
includes
smooth
stucco,
finish
cement
and
metal
panel,
siding
large
expansive
and
multi-pane
windows,
recessed
vinyl
windows,
decorative
window
trim,
roof,
coordinates
and
transparent
panel
railing.
M
M
Here
are
some
renderings
that
are
provided
for
the
proposed
project
to
give
a
better
sense
of
the
proposed
development,
as
it
would
be
designed
for
the
subject
site.
Here's
a
view
of
the
subject:
property
looking
towards
the
northeast
from
the
internal
portions
of
the
site
along
the
western
portion
of
the
property.
M
On
the
left-hand
side,
you
see
the
multi-family
residential
buildings
identified
in
the
in
the
orange
and
then
you
have
the
pocket
parks
that
are
located
between
the
parking
structure
and
the
multifamily
residential
with
that
main
access,
road,
bisecting
the
property,
and
then
you
have
the
industrial
office.
Building
there
to
the
southeast.
M
Here's
another
visual
rendering
to
give
a
better
perspective
of
what
the
project
light
project
would
look
like
from
the
vantage
point
of
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
lakeview
canyon
road.
This
is
looking
towards
the
south.
As
you
see
here,
you
have
the
existing
perimeter,
mature
landscaping,
that's
on
the
subject,
property
and
beyond
that
you
would
have
the
three-story
residential
building.
M
Here's
another
rendering
from
the
internal
portion
of
the
property.
This
is
within
the
open
space
courtyard
areas
between
the
multifamily
residential
buildings.
Again
this
this
demonstrates
the
the
robust
amount
of
open
space.
That's
been
provided
for
the
residents
on
the
subject
property.
You
have
balconies
overlooking
the
courtyards,
you
have
rooftop
terraces,
and
you
also
have
a
various
open
space
dog
park,
amenities
and
also
the
pocket
park
there
to
the
south
between
the
parking
structure
and
the
proposed
multi-family
residential.
M
M
M
Applications
based
on
the
findings
and
subject
to
the
subjective
conditions
of
approval
included
in
the
draft
resolution
and
ordinances
provided
to
the
planning
commission.
That
concludes
sas
presentation.
Staff
is
available
for
any
questions.
Comments
from
the
commission
and
staff
also
has
the
project
eir
consultant
available.
B
G
Thank
you
journal.
I
just
never
want
to
know
if
I
should
go
first
or
wait
till
the
end.
Mr
contreras,
thank
you
again
for
your
report
very
thorough.
It
seems
like
we've,
we've
been
here
before
actually
five
days
ago.
One
thing
that
I
did
note
and
you
actually
have
a
specific
heading
or
comment
in
the
report-
is
that
you
received
no
comments
from
neighbors.
M
At
the
time
staff
prepared
the
staff
report,
we
did
not
receive
those
comments
from
various
neighbors,
but,
as
the
report
was
published
after
june
june
8,
we
did
receive
supplemental
information
and
correspondence
after
the
report
was
published.
So
yes,
that
is
why
the
planning
commission
received
a
supplemental
pacquiao
with
various
correspondence
provided
by
the
public
after
the
report
was
published.
G
And
I
know
the
the
two
supplements
we
got
I
I
know
there
was
one
that
we
even
got
from
mr
dugan
later
in
the
afternoon.
I
didn't
see
anything
that
was
necessarily
had
raised
concerns
with
regard.
I
know
there
was
the
carpenter
group
that
was
making
a
comment,
but
I
didn't
see
anything
it
was
negative.
Did
you.
M
Staff
did
not
take
note
of
anything
negative
as
far
as
the
comments
that
were
received,
we
did
receive
a
lot
of
letters
of
support
on
the
project.
We
did
receive
a
couple
of
comments
regarding
the
the
draft
dir.
However,
the
comment
and
review
period
did
expire
on
may
31st
and
staff
is
taking
those
comments
on
the
eir
into
consideration
to
further
evaluate
ahead
ahead
of
city
council.
G
M
From
what
I
understand,
and
as
far
as
the
sp
23
is
concerned,
the
existing
the
existing
industrial
office
building
will
remain.
That
is
a
large
component
of
planning
area
two
again.
That
is
why
the
applicant
is
proposing
that
four-story
parking
structures
to
accommodate
the
parking
for
the
uses
that
would
go
into
that
industrial
building.
G
And
I
know
looking
at
this
kind
of
like
I
did
last
time
and
looking
looking
at
the
issues
parking,
you
said
that
that's
not
an
issue
based
upon
our
current
codes
by
the
way.
One
question-
I
guess
this
zoning
and
that's
seeking
tonight
would
be
in
in
compliance
or
be
would
be
consistent
with
the
zoning
that
we
would
have
as
part
of
the
general
plan
update.
Is
that
correct.
M
G
N
Yeah
good
evening,
commissioners,
nader
hidari
city
engineer
and
yes
that
is
correct.
The
vmt
for
this
project
is
lower
than
the
city-wide
vmt.
The
vft
projector
for
this
project
is
8.99,
which
is
much
lower
than
the
city-wide
average
vmt.
For
this,
this
portion
of
town
and
again
that
that
makes
it
passes
the
the
smell
test.
But
considering
that
they're
right
adjacent
to
many
services
and
uses
and
errands
that
can
be
run
with
just
a
walking
across
the
the
bridge
there
to
the
promenade
into
the
north
range
plaza
and
everything
so.
G
N
Yes,
that's
certainly
probably
the
number
one
question
and
again
the
there
is
a
need
for
housing,
everyone's
aware
that
there's
a
housing
emergency
in
the
state
of
california,
and
so
that
that
is
a
baseline
issue.
The
drought
is
kind
of
a
more
recent
phenomenon,
obviously
that
we're
dealing
with,
and
what
we
do
know
is
this
new
housing
stock
that
is
built
is
much
more
efficient
and
uses
much
less
water
on
a
gallons
per
capita
basis
than
the
older
traditional
housing
stock.
That
was
built
in
the
60s
and
70s
throughout
town
here.
G
G
G
D
G
E
M
The
proposed
project
includes
some
modifications
to
the
internal
circulation
again,
because
you
have
existing
surface
level
parking
and
in
order
to
construct
the
multi-family
residential
and
the
parking
structure,
it
would
call
for
some
circulation
changes.
We
do
have
the
project
architect
here.
They
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
proposed
design
for
that
internal
access
in
circulation,
but
that
has
been
reviewed
and
vetted
by
not
only
public
works
but
also
by
missouri
county
fire
department.
M
E
Okay,
so
this
one
is
a
kind
of
an
interesting
question:
I'm
on
our
pack
at
our
original
packet
on
page
14.
They
talked
about
the
different
intersections
and
the
the
level,
and
the
last
three
were
were
corrected
in
our
supplemental,
where
they
they
were
originally.
They
would
not
operate
within
city
of
thousand
oaks
performance
criteria
c
or
better,
and
in
the
original
one
it
said
that
the
applicant
was
going
to
pay
traffic
mitigation
fees,
and
now,
in
our
supplement,
it
says
that
those
three
are
actually
those
three
intersections
will
actually
be
compliant.
N
Yes,
I
can
help
address
that
one
yeah,
those
those
three,
those
final
three
which
which
had
a
not
in
the
sentence.
It
was
a
typo,
so
we
remove
that
not,
but
the
applicant
is
still
required
to
pay
the
city-wide
traffic
impact
fee
which
pertains
not
only
to
the
you
know,
intersections
right,
adjacent
but
city-wide
and
westlake
boulevard
and
thousands
boulevard
and
so
forth,
so
that
that
is
a
city-wide
traffic
impact
fee
that
they
will
be
contributing.
M
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
proposed
project
does
not
include
any
modifications
to
the
existing
bridge.
That
would
require
that
wasn't
something
that
was
assessed
or
evaluated
during
the
environmental
review
of
the
project.
So
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that
right
now,
but
based
on
the
project
design
and
the
existing
improvements
for
the
bridge
it
can,
it
does
provide
for
pedestrian
access
and
vehicle
access.
So
I
understand
that
there
are
no
modifications
required
for
that
bridge.
M
M
E
M
In
the
green
arrow
we
have
the
limits
of
the
of
the
or
the
location
of
the
part
of
the
of
the
existing
bridge
and,
on
the
left
hand,
side.
You
have
the
photograph
of
that
bridge
taken
not
more
than
a
couple
of
months
ago,
demonstrating
vehicular
access
and
also
pedestrian
access
to
the
subject
site.
M
M
L
L
M
L
That
side,
it's
just
this
is
an
experiential
thing
that
I've
found
walking
throughout
my
city
is
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
sidewalks
that
go
to
nowhere
and
and
stop
cold.
I
happen
to
live
at
the
corner
of
jansen
moore
park
and
when
you're
walking
to
the
ralph
shopping
center
over
there,
it's
kind
of
the
same
thing.
L
I
got
a
sidewalk
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
I'm
in
the
street
fighting
with
traffic
over
how
I'm
getting
to
the
shopping
center
itself
once
I
get
into
the
entrance,
so
I
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
planet
needs
to
consider
when
we're.
When
we're
talking
about
these
issues
going
forward,
especially
because
I
find
myself-
I
I
am
a
person
who
prefers
to
be
a
pedestrian
and
I
keep
running
into
spaces
where
I'm
like.
This
is
a
sidewalk
literally
to
nowhere
and
I'm
six
four
three
hundred
pounds.
So
cars
notice
me.
L
But
often
I
have
my
children
with
me
and
I
keep
them
very
close
to
me
because
it's
it's
a
little
nerve-wracking
to
walk
around
on
on
public
streets
when
you've
got
children
and
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
this
development.
We're
talking
about
an
area
that
children
will
be
able
to
access,
you
know
go
over
to
the
bookstore
go
over
for
for
a
milkshake
whatever,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
thinking
about
them
so
I'll
leave
that
for
you
guys
to
follow
up
on.
L
I
know
that
we're
not
the
traffic
commission
I'll
go
with
my
other
questions,
they're,
not
asking
for
a
density
bonus,
but
the
number
of
affordable
units
did
go
up
after
consultation.
Can
you
give
me
a
little
behind
the
scenes
on
what
that
thought
process
was
and
why
they
made
those?
Why
why
they
increase
the
number
of
affordable
units.
M
Yes
back
when
the
project
was
allocated,
the
residential
units
of
264,
the
applicant,
did
take
into
consideration,
impacts
of
surrounding
properties
and
also
comments
from
the
city
council
on
the
project's
density,
right
so
to
stay
within
the
city's
goals
and
objectives,
and
also
while
providing
for
the
appropriate
density
on
the
property
they
increase.
The
affordable
component
to
also
meet
the
city's
housing
needs
for
affordable
component.
M
M
L
M
L
Is
would
it
be
just
the
the
buildings
itself
or
are
we
talking
about
the
parking
areas
as
well,
because
that
bridge
access
would
be
one
of
the
things
that
could
potentially
be
impacted
by
by
gating
the
residential
area?
So
that's
what
I'm
asking
I
I
don't.
I
didn't
see
in
the
pictures
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
wrap
my
head
around
how
how
we,
how
this
becomes
a
semi-private
area.
M
Yeah
access
the
site
is
restricted
to
the
actual
project
site
at
the
perimeters,
so
the
residential
component
and
the
existing
industrial
building
there
will
be
no
gated
access
between
the
two,
but
there,
the
gated
access
right
now
that
you
see
at
the
bridge
would
remain
unmodified
and
then
you're
going
to
have
restricted
access
along
the
perimeter.
Where
you
saw
those
perimeter
oak
trees,
it
does
include
some
perimeter
fencing
okay,
to
restrict
access
to
the
subject
site.
I'm.
L
M
M
L
So
we
talked
a
lot
about
parking
spaces.
I
was
just
curious.
We
did
another
project
not
too
long
ago
in
the
same
vicinity
and
the
developer
was
talking
a
lot
about
bike
parking.
I
was
just
curious.
Have
we
been
considering
any
of
that
either
for
the
industrial
space
or
for
the?
I
don't
necessarily
think
for
the
for
the
residential
they'll
probably
bring
their
bikes
into
their
homes
or
but
is?
Is
there?
Is
there
any
provision
for
bike
parking.
M
L
M
L
Out
to
my
brother,
who
worked
for
atlantic
bell,
slash,
verizon
and
then
trees
on
the
the
in
luffy's.
We
talked
a
little
bit
so
they're,
saying
46
on-site,
47
off-site
those
can
be
offset
by
in
luffy's
to
to
the
city
the
46
that
are
committed
to
be
planted,
though
those
cannot
be
just
paid
for
and
then
ignored
right.
They
have
to
actually
plant
those
4600.
They
are
committed
to
it's
the
off-site
ones
that
are
optional.
M
N
L
Okay
and
everybody's
good
with
that,
and
that
cannot
be
countermounted
with
an
enlue
fee
later
correct.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
perfect!
Let's
see,
I
just
had
one
last
question
I
might
actu
actually
be
for
the
applicant.
This
is
the
second
time
in
a
week
I've
heard
about
a
children's
like
community
room
area.
L
Is
this
a
new
marketing
thing?
Is
this
a
defined
thing
in
terms
of
the
city?
Do
we
have
like
rules
on
what
this
is,
because
I
was
just
curious.
Is
this
a
place
where
children
go
unsupervised?
Is
there
adult
supervision
there?
That's
provided
by
the
by
the
apartment,
complex
like
what
is
it
exactly
and
because
I'm
asking
because
could
conceivably
adults
who
have
their
own
businesses
work
in
there
and
use
it
as
a
like
a
semi-office
space?
What
is
it.
M
M
As
far
as
the
market
needs
from
the
applicant
team
and
again,
they
can
talk
to
why
they
designed
it
in
this
way,
but
just
like,
we
think
about
the
ride,
sharing
component
and
providing
a
location
for
people
to
be
dropped
off
and
pick
up
we're
looking
at
this
tutoring
and
learning
center
as
something
as
an
amenity
for
the
residents
to
have,
because
it's
something
again,
we
took
into
consideration
the
project's
location.
There
is
a
school
nearby
and
we
know
as
far
as
letting
the
applicant
team
know
and
getting
comments
from
the
public.
M
We
want
to
take
into
consideration
that
component
and
what's
nearby
and
provide
this
tutoring
learning
center,
because,
ultimately
the
idea
would
be
if
somebody's
child
is
at
school
and
have
to
work
on
a
specific
project.
They'd
have
the
facility
there
to
be
able
to
collaborate
and
provide
for
a
tutoring
environment
or
learning
environment.
L
L
M
B
M
M
A
great
great
question,
commissioner:
newman:
yes,
that's
absolutely
correct.
The
site
was
previously
developed
again,
you
have
the
residential
component
proposed
on
the
existing
surface
level,
parking
and
also
the
parking
structure,
and
you
have
the
existing
baxter
weight
building
with
all
the
manufacture,
slopes
that
were
previously
constructed
at
that
time.
M
B
N
N
B
Okay,
great,
I
see
mr
friedl's
on
our
speaker
list.
So
perhaps
this
is
a
question
for
him,
but
but
does
the
development
agreement
agreement,
it
makes
a
general
reference
to
fees
and
then
it
enumerates
many
different
departments
that
may
receive
many
different
fees,
but
I'm
asking
specifically
does:
does
this
project
include
payment
to
crpd
for
for
park
fees,
since
we
will
be
adding
more
residents
to
the
city
if
we
proceed.
M
M
That's
based
on
the
existing
characteristics
of
subject
properties.
Nearby,
I
mean
again,
you
have
public
transit
nearby.
You
have
industrial
uses
across
lake
buchanan
road,
you
have
commercial
uses
commercial
office
uses
to
the
north
across
tob.
You
have
an
existing
promenade
to
the
west
part
of
the
project
design,
not
only
looking
at
it
from
the
components
that
are
proposed,
providing
pedestrian
connectivity
and
bicycle
friendly
design
from
the
actual
sp23.
B
Okay,
so
it
is
accurate,
yes,
that
that
the
eir
estimates
1
375
new,
daily
trips,
new
adt's
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
but
we're
saying
it
is
more
walkable
because
of
its
location
and
because
of
its
proximity
to
markets
stores.
Restaurants,
other
amenities
where
you
don't
have
to
get
in
a
car
and
drive.
M
Infrastructure
improvements
include,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
internal
access
and
circulation.
That's
going
to
be
proposed
for
the
project
connecting
the
proposed
multi-family
residential
to
sewer
and
water
and
all
the
other
infrastructure
that's
needed
for
the
not
only
for
the
multi-family
residential,
but
also
for
the
proposed
parking
structure.
B
M
B
At
four
four
and
a
half
feet
above
ground
level
is
in
the
mid
teens
on
on
average
it's
it's
14
13
12,
14,
16,
16,
12.,
so
mid-teens
these
are
not
small
trees.
I
would
not
be
surprised
if
it's
decades
we're
talking
about
for
these.
These
replacement
trees
and
it's
great
that
there's
a
three
to
one
replacement,
but
it
may
be
decades
to
grow
to
this
to
the
size
of
the
trees.
We're
removing.
Would
you
concur.
D
B
B
And
then
my
last
tree
question
is,
I
don't
know
if
it's
above
ground
or
subterranean,
but
I
believe
from
the
large
number
of
trees
existing
between
the
promenade
and
this
property,
especially
on
the
side
of
the
industrial
building.
There
may
be
an
arroyo
or
a
creek
running
along
there.
It
seems
to
feed
a
lot
of
of
trees.
M
N
B
B
N
B
K
Very
much
and
I'm
representing
kennedy
wilson,
who's,
basically
the
owner
of
the
property
tonight,
scott
baker
is
going
to
join
me
with
a
powerpoint
presentation
after
I
make
a
few
remarks
here,
one
question
to
answer
all
of
your
questions:
it
might
eclipse
our
15
minutes.
Can
I
can
we
address
those
at
the
end
afterwards,.
B
K
Okay,
first
of
all,
thank
you
very
much
to
the
staff.
They
we've
worked
with
them
since,
before
the
pre-app,
their
guidance
and
the
input
we've
gotten
from
them
has
been
immeasurably
excellent.
It's
across
the
board,
one
of
the
best
I've
worked
with
in
many
many
years.
In
doing
this,
I
think
that
the
outcome
of
the
staff
report
speaks
for
itself.
It's
in.
K
However,
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
nursery
stock
trees
were
imported
and
we
have
almost
600
trees
on
the
site,
so
with
11
lot
coverage
for
the
project
or
the
existing
property.
That's
in
that's
improved
right
now,
there's
not
a
lot
of
room
when
you
look
at
all
the
trees
to
fit
things
in
there
with
anything
new
and
the
idea
of
implementing
a
new
project
that
introduces
a
village
atmosphere
where
you
have
proximity
to
live.
Work
and
go
to
restaurants
and
retail
opportunities
at
the
promenade.
K
It's
a
that's
the
challenge
part,
but
in
terms
of
freeway
separation,
for
instance,
the
new
multi-family
component
is
over
a
thousand
feet
from
the
existing
freeway
and
it's
buffered
by
the
office
building
or
the
industrial
building.
Yet
it's
freeway
closed
for
access,
which
is
just
an
ideal
location,
and
somebody
mentioned
earlier
about
the
lack
of
residential
comments.
Tonight,
we've
been
in
contact
with
four
residential
communities,
but
all
of
them
are
over
two-thirds
of
a
mile
from
the
property.
It's
really
a
unique
situation.
K
So
I
guess,
if
you're
talking
about
infill,
this
would
be
a
you
know,
a
case
study
for
one
and
also
happy
to
note
that
there's,
as
it's
been
said,
there's
no
unmitigatable
impact.
So
there's
no
overriding
consent.
Considerations
needed
it's
consistent
with
the
tree
ordinance
and
poses
no
noticeable
effects
with
traffic
and
it
comports
with
the
gp
2045
direction,
you're
going
in
terms
of
the
land
use
map
that
you
adopted,
or
it's
not
adopted
yet
but
vetted
last
year
and
those
sorts
of
things.
K
K
I
guess
the
last
thing
I
would
say
that
is
the
sustainability
issue.
Here
is
you
saw
the
letter
from
the
climate
coalition
we've
been
working
with
them.
I
think
we've
had
four
or
five
meetings
and
where
we
are
right
now
on
that
is
exceptional
in
way
over
any
minimum
requirements
of
of
a
green,
cal,
green
or
anything
like
that
and
scott
will
get
into
that
in
more
detail.
H
H
I
think
importantly,
this
is
the
site
as
it
remains
today
and
I
think
we
take
our
cues
from
where
it
sits
in
the
city,
the
density
of
buildings
in
the
neighborhood,
the
acres
of
surface
parking
lot,
and
just
how
the
how
how
the
natural
landscape
has
been
largely
stripped
away,
and
so
we
take
cues
from
that
to
really
establish
a
set
of
guiding
principles
for
this
project,
and
I
think
the
idea
that
one
we
wanted
to
create
something
that
integrated
seamlessly
it
needs
to
belong
here.
It
needs
to
be
of
thousand
oaks.
H
Dave
talked
about
the
scale
of
the
architecture,
the
role
of
the
landscape.
It
needs
to
reinforce
what
thousand
oaks
is
historically
and
the
patterns
of
landscape
and
architectural
vernacular.
We
wanted
to
create
that
synergy.
We
wanted
to
put
more
uses
on
one
site,
rather
than
it
being
a
singular
use,
so
where
we
have
office,
we
now
have
housing
adjacent
to
retail.
H
H
We
wanted
to
preserve
and
expand
the
native
landscape.
This
is
about
trees,
but
it's
also
about
understory
and
habitat
and
urban
ecology,
and
so
again
trying
to
stitch
more
greenery
back
into
the
neighborhood
and
then
finally,
this
idea
of
design
excellence.
It's
about
compelling
compelling
design,
but
it's
about
best
practices.
It's
about
doing
the
right
thing
across
the
gamut
of
development,
and
so,
as
dave
mentioned,
as
we've
talked
about
sites,
roughly
50
surface
parking
lot
at
this
point
in
time.
H
That's
a
huge
heat
island
issue
and
we
can
do
better
than
that
and
that's
what
we
aspire
to
do
so
as
you've
seen
in
the
plans
it
takes
that
surface
parking
lot.
It
aggregates
the
parking
in
an
intelligent
and
simple
way,
and
it
adds
four
new
residential
buildings
right,
264
units
34
of
those
being
affordable
units,
and
I
think
the
important
thing
with
this
is
that
it
really
again
aggregates
complementary
uses
on
the
site.
It
embraces
all
of
those
adjacent
land
uses
that
exists
already.
H
Hard
to
see
on
the
screen,
I'm
hoping
your
screen's
a
little
bit
better,
but
I
think
just
importantly,
we've
aggregated
the
four
buildings
that
make
up
the
residential
closely
together.
We've
tried
to
expand
the
amount
of
open
space,
the
neighborhood
amenity,
the
community
amenity
that
we're
creating
here,
certainly
there's
courtyard
spaces
within
the
buildings
that
sit
on
top
of
the
parking,
but
in
a
larger
area
of
of
terra
firma.
H
If
you
will,
that
is
landscape
that
has
play
areas
that
has
places
for
children,
dog
park,
etc,
important
to
note
that
the
site
is
actually
becoming
more
permeable
than
it
is
now
we're
actually
creating
more
soft
area
more
groundwater
permeability
than
it
currently
is.
Now
it
is
a
softer
site
going
forward
than
it
is
now,
and
we
think
that's
an
important
piece.
H
Now,
obviously,
I'm
a
landscape,
architect,
trees
are
near
and
dear
to
me
and
I
think,
dave
kind
of
laid
out.
The
the
conundrum
that
we
find
ourselves
in
we've
talked
about
the
three
coast
live
oaks,
the
two
valley,
oaks,
the
26,
sycamores
and
and
the
effort
really
to
shape
these
buildings.
I
I
think,
we've
all
seen
projects
that
put
residential
buildings
in
a
much
more
regular
configuration
the
idea
of
sort
of
twisting
and
turning
these
buildings
to
try
to
navigate
the
trees
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
H
That
said,
we
are
making
those
removals,
so
there
is
a
commitment
to
replacing
93,
not
providing
93
replacement
trees.
We
are
able
to
to
provide
47
on
site
horticulturally,
that's
where
we
think
we
are
comfortable
more
than
that.
Ultimately,
we
start
to
crowd
oaks.
We
start
to
crowd
sycamores,
it's
just
not
good
for
the
trees
and
so
we're
we're
trying
to
find
that
sweet
spot.
H
Where
we
know
these
trees
can
prosper,
we're
keeping
them
off
of
the
podium
areas
where
they're
in
terra
firma
right
the
best
possible
growing
condition
that
they
are
or
that
they
can
have
rather,
and
that
the
46
that
we
can't
accommodate,
as
has
been
talked
about
tonight,
the
idea
of
of
using
the
and
luffy
in
our
minds.
These
are
46
trees
that
belong
to
the
community.
So
can
they
be
provided
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
we're?
H
I
mentioned,
though,
the
native
landscape,
the
understory,
is
equally
as
important
as
the
trees,
it's
important
from
a
from
a
native
habitat
point
of
view.
Urban
ecology
point
of
view,
heat
island,
point
of
view,
the
idea
of
growing
that
green
tissue
within
a
community
to
improve
the
health
of
the
community.
H
So
we've
established
a
drought,
tolerant,
pallet,
a
largely
native
pallet
that
would
support
the
land
the
landscape
would
be
comprised
of
to,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
increasing
permeability
as
we
go
from
the
surface
parking
lot
to
what
we
have
now
so
and
there
was
a
question
that
was
raised
about
the
riparian
corridor,
and
I
think
this
is
appropriate
time
to
raise
it
so
presently
that
surface
parking
lot
drains
into
that
riparian
corridor.
So
you
know
what
goes
along
with
surface
parking
lots
going
forward.
H
All
water
is
captured
on
site
and
filtered,
and
it
still
ends
up
being
discharged,
but
it's
water
that
has
been
cleaned
and
filtered
before
it
ends
up
back
in
the
riparian
corridor.
So
I
think,
from
that
point
of
view,
there's
an
effort
to
really
enhance,
or
at
least
improve
upon
that
water
source
and
then
finally,
some
of
the
sustainability
features
that
were
mentioned.
H
You
know
solar
exposure
using
those
trees
that
we're
adding
for
shade
and
really
just
looking
at
how
to
ensure
that
these
buildings
are
passively
sustainable
as
much
as
possible
and
then
finally,
using
all
electric
and
no
fossil
fuels
for
grills
and
cooktops
and
the
like.
So
and
then
maybe
it's
fair
that
we
end
with
water.
You
asked
a
very
fair
question.
H
Excuse
me,
commissioner
larson,
you
know
it's
interesting,
that
multi-family
housing,
I
think,
was
pointed
out
by
staff
that
multi-family
housing
actually
uses
about
a
third,
less
water
than
single-family
dwellings
per
person,
and
I
think
the
reality
of
where
our
housing
needs
are
and
where
our
communities
are
going,
we're
increasing
the
number
of
multi-family
units,
so
we're
very
cognizant
of
that.
We
know
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
as
well
as
addressing
the
housing
issue,
but
certainly
in
addition
to
that,
we
want
to
use
low-flow
toilets
shower
heads
the
like
the
landscaping.
H
H
Our
firm
prioritizes,
sustainable
landscapes.
This
is
a
landscape,
we're
looking
to
kind
of
bring
the
community
back,
it
needs
to
be
water
sensitive.
We
need
to
be
doing
the
right
thing
and
again
people
often
ask:
why
are
we
adding
trees?
Why
are
we
adding
landscape
when
we're
in
a
drought
that
actually
helps
us
to
hold
more
moisture?
In
the
community
that
actually
allows
us
to
lower
the
the
median
temperature
of
the
ground,
it
actually
is
better
for
us.
H
So
having
smart
landscape
is
is
how
we
want
to
approach
this
going
forward
and
then
finally,
carlos
stole
our
thunder
with
the
renderings.
So
I
don't
have
anything
new
to
show
you
in
that
regard,
but
I
think
I
think
you
can
see
from
the
renderings
that
these
are
low.
Slung
buildings
set
deeply
within
the
landscape.
H
The
idea
of
the
pedestrian
experience,
whether
it's
from
a
surface
lot.
I
see
I
got
one
minute.
I
don't
need
to
let
dave
back
up
here
again
all
right,
but
the
idea
of
really
setting
these
buildings
in
a
park
in
a
manner
of
speaking
is
really
the
intention
here
and
that
amenity
package
from
those
residential
courtyards
the
views.
H
We
want
to
really
celebrate
what
it
means
to
live
in
thousand
oaks
and
then,
finally,
this
last
image
the
idea
of
fulfilling
the
campus
environment
by
adding
housing
along
with
office,
and
so
I
think,
we've
been
over
the
the
summary
benefits,
but
again
the
idea
that
housing
is
critical
to
our
communities,
not
just
thousand
oaks
but
all
of
our
communities.
It's
a
critical
issue.
H
This
is
a
this
is
providing
264
units,
34
of
which
are
for
low
and
very
low
affordability
and
again
bringing
housing
and
retail
and
jobs
together
to
create
a
better,
more
more
cohesive
community.
It's
a
walkable
community,
and
with
that,
we
feel
that
we
are
offering
best
practices.
We
are
delivering
a
sustainable
village.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
G
Anybody
else
want
to
take
it.
I'm
glad
to
thank
you
for
going
over
your
your
application.
I
do
have
some
questions
and
again
that
will
give
you
an
opportunity
to
go
through
some
answers.
I'm
going
to
ask
the
same
question
that
I
I
asked
last
week
of
you,
which
is:
do
you
intend
to
actually
build
this?
Are
you
just
getting
the
improvements
to
then
sell
it.
K
Actually,
we
do,
I
intend
to
build
it
where
you
have
kennedy.
Wilson
has
37
000
apartments
globally
and
our
platform
right
now
is,
and
for
some
time
has
been
to
build
our
own
product
and
manage
our
own
product.
We
hire,
of
course,
local
managers,
but
in
an
umbrella
sense
we
do
everything
ourselves,
including
building.
G
So
these
would
would
be
rentals
because
that's
your
business
model,
that's
correct
part
of
the
project
and
again
it's
it's
noteworthy
is
that
you
are
not
asking
for
a
density
bonus.
I
don't
know
if
you
know,
or
if
staff
knows
how
many
additional
units
would
you
have
been
entitled
to
build?
Had
you
actually
taken
advantage
of
that
concept?
If
you
know
60,
I
believe
it
is
64.
K
K
Well,
when
you
do
60
more
units
and
you
provide
the
attendant
parking
and
all
of
the
other
things
that
are
space
taking
on
the
site,
I
think,
personally,
you
get
out
of
the
realm
of
what
we
were
trying
to
achieve
with
the
low-key
environment
and
village
effect.
If
you
will
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
here,
I
think
it
just
became
a
different
project
and
in
terms
of
look
and
feel
and
again
the
parking
issue.
G
K
I
think
it's
in
the
specific
plan
in
the
or
the
eir,
but
basically
if
we
were
to
get
a
favorable
outcome
here
in
june
from
the
city,
we'd
jump
into
working
drawings
and
compliance
with
all
the
conditions
and
all
of
the
things
that
have
to
take
place
prior
to
construction.
That
would
take
the
remainder
of
this
year
and
part
of
next
year.
I
would,
I
would
see,
pulling
building
permits
sometime
mid-year
next
year
and
then
you're
looking
at
a
24-month
to
30
32
month
building
period.
I
think
that's
more
realistic.
G
I,
and
the
reason
I
ask,
is
just
looking
at
our
arena
cycle
that
we're
on
realizing
from
our
last
meeting.
We
I
mentioned
that
we
had
had
six
new
units
last
year
in
total
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
Looking
at
the
seven
year
period,
I
was
just
wondering
in
terms
of
exactly
when
that
might
come
online.
You
said
it
sounds
like
three
to
four
years
at
a
minimum.
G
K
G
K
G
K
G
One
last
question:
again:
I'm
sorry
if
I
steal
commissioner
bus's
question
on
this
issue
is:
is
this
bridge
and
the
the
walkway
it
looks
like
the
area?
That's
not
that
goes
doesn't
go
through,
isn't
on
wouldn't
be
quote-unquote
your
land,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
for
you
to
actually
extend
that
sidewalk
on
the
bridge.
Is
that
something
you
could
look
into.
K
K
We've
we've
spoken
with
the
folks
at
caruso
and
actually
it's
kind
of
funny
because
way
back
when
we
first
started
talking
about
the
project
they
didn't
want
to
get
any
design
into
any
design
details,
because
it
was
so
premature
and
said
they
said,
come
back
to
us
when
you
have
a
project
and
then
we
can
start
talking
about
how
to
you
know
feather
that
into
our
side.
Literally.
K
G
L
K
Unlike
the
imt
site,
you
know
we
have
an
existing
private
use.
The
property
is,
in
effect,
all
private
property.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
conducive
to
public
access
other
than
to
have
you
know
guests,
and
you
know
visitors
to
the
apartments
friends.
Whatever
there'll
be
signage.
There
is
a
series
of
safeguards
put
in
place
by
our
management
that
will
control.
You
know,
you'll
have
a
roving
guard
now
and
then
probably
we
really
haven't
defined.
What
yet
but
it'll
be
such
that
you
know
things
are
under
control.
L
K
You
know.
So
it's
it's
not
a
difficult
thing
to
do.
It's
not
an
all-inclusive
learning
center
or
anything
like
that.
It's
just
a
place
for
a
teacher
to
get
out
of
his
or
her
apartment,
to
be
able
to
stay
on
the
property
and
not
have
to
drive
anywhere
and
sit
down
for
an
hour
with
a
student
all
right
all
right.
L
That
makes
sense
to
me.
We
also
have
a
charity
organization
in
town
known
as
safe
passages.
That's
heavily
involved
in
law
enforcement
agents
are
involved
in
it
and
they
do
tutoring
for
students
locally.
So
it
might
be
a
good
people
to
recruit
once
you
have
that
up
and
running,
let's
see
what
else
the
gentleman
who
did
the
landscape
architecting.
I
had
a
question
about
you.
You
brought
up
how
you're
going
to
handle
drainage
on
the
site
and
it's
going
to
go
through
a
filtration
system.
Is
that
going
to
be
used
for?
L
H
But
certainly
we're
capturing
water
in
vegetated
filtration
planters,
on
site
to
help
with
part
of
that
first
flush,
runoff.
As
I
was
alluding
to
earlier
at
present,
I
don't
believe
we're
doing
capture
and
reuse
of
the
water.
That's
correct!
So
so
we
are
filtering
it
cleaning
it
putting
it
back
into
the
storm
channels
and
and
riparian
quarter
cleaner
than
it
is
presently
yeah.
Okay.
H
One
thing
I
wanted
to
add
just
to
go
back
on
the
fencing
thing
not
to
backtrack,
but
we
did
put
or
propose
fences
in
that
existing
landscape
buffer
along
lakeview
canyon,
yeah.
That's
what
I
assume
no
gates
at
the
entries,
but
I
think
there's
a
sense
of
trying
to
mitigate
potential
cut
throughs,
the
degradation
of
that
landscape
and
also
just
once
we
start
to
park
cars,
and
we
have
residential
front
doors
and
stoops.
L
I
would
say,
as
an
editorial
comment,
too,
the
concept
of
having
an
access
way
from
that
crusoe
property
through
your
property
and
exit
out
of
your
property
to
a
high
school
will
be
very
attractive
to
people
trying
to
get
there
and
leaving
so
so,
whatever
controls
you
do
put
in
place,
I
I
would
be.
I
would
consider
that.
L
K
We
don't,
I
would
use
an
analogy,
though,
in
our
project,
in
the
big
island
of
hawaii,
we
are
100
sustainable
wow,
but
that's
taking
a
7,
acre
field,
lava
field
and
doing
all
solar.
So
it's
a
it's
a
great
thing
to
do,
but
I'm
not
sure
we're
going
to
attain
that
here.
We're
going
to
do
obviously
the
extent
we
can
with
solar
panels
to
alleviate
the
draw
on
the
grid,
but
it'll
be
it
won't,
be
100.
E
K
B
B
B
K
Well,
commissioner,
newman,
I
think
it's
a
balancing
act.
We
have
a
500
pound
gorilla
in
the
room,
called
a
25
million
dollar
parking
structure
to
build
to
replace
the
surface
parking.
We
were
moving
and
I
think
our
bump
up
as
carl
carlos
referred
to
earlier,
our
voluntary
bump
up
to
34
units
was
kind
of
our
tipping
point,
and
so
it
I
stand
by
that.
B
K
Well,
wherever
we
go,
we
look
at
optimal
use
of
land
and
how
it
might
best
be
planned.
You
know,
and
lots
of
things
go
into
that
decision,
but
the
core
business
is
really
the
multi-family
business
and
in
this
particular
case
with
the
you
know,
the
need
to
get
pricing
down
to
the
extent
we
can
and
with
a
three
percent
vacancy
rate
in
the
entire
city.
K
K
K
B
B
We
got
in
fact
there's
a
speaker
card
here.
I
won't
read
the
whole
set
of
comments.
They're,
very
tough,
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
comments
is
that
by
having
so
many
market
rate
units-
and
it
is
87
here-
we're
actually
making
the
problem
worse
because
it
drives
up
housing
costs,
I
don't
know
how
to
speaking
of
chicken
and
egg
problems,
I'm
I'm
interested
in
exploring
ways
that
that
break
that
cycle.
B
It's
it's
an
inflationary
cycle,
you're
meeting
a
need,
there's
no
question
you're
in
business,
I
get
it
and
you
need
to
make
a
profit
on
your
unit.
But
there's
this
constant
upward
spiral
that
this
resident
is
complaining
about,
and
I
I
just
wonder,
are
we
making
the
problem
worse
by
adding
87
percent
more
to
that
to
that
supply.
K
K
B
Yes,
it
is
okay,
let's
let's
move
on.
Is
it
just
so
I'm
clear
on
the
the
ev
charging
stations
again
I
heard
numbers
like
five
percent
and
six
percent
thrown
around.
Is
it
the
intent
that
five
percent
of
the
of
the
parking
spaces
were
six
percent
on
day,
one
we'll
be
capable
of
having
a
plug
that
can
charge
into
a
car,
or
is
it
just
the
plumbing
to
do
that
at
some
future
point.
K
N
K
K
B
B
I'm
a
recovering
network
engineer.
I
I'm
no
gadget
guy.
Okay,
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
you
know
we
don't
design
here.
That's
that's
your
department.
There
are.
There
are
pros
and
cons
to
doing
that.
If
you
go
that
route
and
you're
looking
to
burnish
your
environmental
credentials,
that
is
a
lower
consumer
of
power
and
heat
than
copper
infrastructure,
which
is
the
way
we've
built
networks
for
decades.
K
B
K
B
B
B
B
B
So
I'll
call
the
name
of
the
next
person
up
and
then
the
two
people
after
that,
so
you
can
get
ready
for
each
speaker.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name,
your
city
of
residence
and
if
you
or
your
employer,
have
any
financial
interest
in
this
in
this
application,
so
starting
out,
we
will
have
a
benjamin
ephraim,
followed
by
clint
fultz,
followed
by
ron
bloomquist.
I
L
L
L
D
D
We're
pleased
that
the
project
at
one
baxter
way
includes
plans
to
build
all
electric
residential
units
and
is
a
limiting
so-called
eliminating
so-called
natural
gas
from
their
development.
Natural
gas
is
in
actuality,
a
toxic
fossil
fuel
with
the
predominant
component
being
methane.
An
extremely
potent
greenhouse
gas
methane
has
a
global
heating
potential
more
than
80
times
greater
than
that
of
carbon
dioxide
during
the
first
20
years
after
it
is
released
into
the
atmosphere.
This
methane
is
so-called
natural.
Gas
also
raises
indoor
air
pollution
to
extremely
unhealthy
levels
as
stoves
and
other
gas
appliances
leak.
D
The
canadian
climate
coalition
also
commends
the
developers
on
additional
climate
and
environmentally
conscious
features
that
include
solar
power
systems,
water
conservation
measures,
native
and
drought,
tolerant
landscaping
and
an
eye
towards
electrified
transportation
infrastructure.
The
develop
the
developments
cal
green
compliance
is
highly
commendable
and
appreciated.
D
That
said,
we
would
like
assurances
of
significant
rooftop,
solar
and
increased
ev
charging
infrastructure.
We
would
also
like
to
see
a
net
expanded
tree
canopy,
a
majority
native
pollinator-friendly
landscape
and
a
commitment
to
implementing
the
recommendations
of
the
ventura
county
air
pollution
control
district.
D
I
Good
evening
my
name
is
ron.
Excuse
me
ron
bloomquist.
I
also
live
on
lakeview
canyon,
road
and
club
estates,
and
I
have
no
financial
ties
to
this
project.
You
know
it
really
it.
I
know.
I
only
have
four
minutes,
I'm
going
to
try
to
work
fast
here,
but
you
know
we
have
a
already
really
bad
congestion,
terrible
high
number
traffic
problem
at
that
intersection
of
thousand
oaks
boulevard
in
lakeview
canyon.
It's
extremely
dangerous,
as
it
is
the
safety
of
these
kids.
I
I
mean
I've
witnessed
two
I've
personally
been
driving
on
to
boulevard,
as
people
were
turning
in
picking
up
and
dropping
off
in
school
and
seeing
two
accidents
with
kids
in
the
last
I
think,
12
months,
the
you
know,
the
problem
is
for
the
better
part
of
two
hours
a
day
you
got
traffic
backed
up
from
lakeview
canyon,
boulevard,
all
the
way
to
westlake
village,
boulevard
and
all
the
way
to
the
other
side
of
the
high
school,
and
it's
clogged
up
and
nobody
can
get
anywhere.
Now.
I
What
we're
doing
is
we're
taking
1200
more
as
sharon
brought
up
1200
more
day
trips,
but
then
they
try
to
they
kind
of
fluff
that
into
they.
They
fold
that
into
the
walking
trips.
But
you
know
the
1200
day:
trips
is
plus
business.
Those
are
another
six.
Another
thousand
people
dropping
into
the
the
number
of
apartments
all
in
this
funnel
that
all
those
people
can
get
in
and
out
of
one
driveway
into
lakeview
canyon
road,
so
I
mean,
and
then
they
say
that
the
fire
department
signed
off
on
it.
I
I
got
a
hard
time
that
they
signed
off
knowing
the
situation
of
lakeview
canyon
and
teo
boulevard
and
then
adding
all
this
to
it,
because
if
anybody
stands
there
or
spends
an
hour,
the
better
part
of
two
hours
a
day
in
the
highest
amount
of
drive
time
that
we
have
in
this
town,
we've
got
this
huge
mess
right
there.
It's
really
bad.
I
mean
I
experience
it
constantly.
I
My
wife's
office
is
a
one
and
three
quarter
miles
also
in
west
lake
village,
and
sometimes
it
takes
me
20
minutes
to
get
there
depending
on
when
I
leave
so
you
know
it's.
It's
something
to
be
said
for
for
inviting
more
housing
to
thousand
oaks,
affordable,
housing,
apartments
or
whatever,
and
as
they
said
it
was
a
great
location,
it's
less
than
a
mile
or
a
mile
and
a
half
or
whatever
parameters
that
they
like
to
have
to
where
to
place
it.
But
the
flaw
in
the
plan
you
know
it
might
be
environmentally
friendly.
I
You
might
have
all
the
latest
and
greatest
building
the
building
methods
that
you
can
have,
but
the
the
fatal
flaws.
It's
not
on
the
last
slide
of
the
fly,
presentation,
number
five
or
six
was
safety,
and
that
I
disagree
with
for
that.
I
think
you
really
have
to
take
a
strong
look
at
this.
Have
somebody
go
and
look
now,
maybe
if
they
add
lanes
at
a
lane
going
each
way
for
half
a
mile
that
could
do
it,
but
all
you're
doing
is
creating
a
huge
problem
and
you're
going
to
regret
it.
I
O
O
O
O
O
Given
that
these
buildings
are
designed
as
three-story
residential
structures,
I'm
wondering
if
the
developer
plans
to
include
elevators
in
the
buildings.
I
know
it's
pretty
typical
to
have
three-story
walk-up
structures
in
a
lot
of
places
for
apartments,
and
I
get
the
rationale
to
kind
of
make
the
development
cheaper.
O
But
at
the
same
time
I
think
you
know
apartments
that
you
know
all
levels
can
be
accessed
by
people
with
mobility
issues.
I
think
elevators
are
very
important
to
that
and
if
there
was
a
attempt
to
add
more
units
to
those
already
proposed,
I
think
that
elevators
would
be
essential
for
additional
floor
access.
O
O
I
know
you've
explained
that
it's
sort
of
not
within
the
scope
of
this
project,
but
I'm
wondering
really
like,
is
it
necessary
so
much
to
avoid
traffic
passing
through
that
that
roadway
and
even
if
the
gate
is
kept
in
place
for
preventing
car
traffic?
If
there's
a
way
that
bicycle
traffic,
especially
I'm
thinking,
cargo
bikes,.
O
B
P
P
Fujifilm
fujifilm
is
delighted
that
this
project
incorporates
sustainability
as
part
of
its
fulfillment.
This
is
a
well
aligned
with
fiji,
film's
sustainable
value
plan
2030
and
our
commitment
to
building
for
a
better
future
capsida.
Many
of
our
employees
are
seeking
housing
with
walkability
to
dining
and
retail,
combined
with
on-site
amenities.
P
P
The
thoughtful
design,
numerous
green
initiatives
and
inclusion
of
34,
affordable
housing
units
in
the
mix
of
the
overall
260
proposed
units
is
exactly
what
our
community
needs
to
build
bridge
the
way
lasting
residency
and
a
platform
for
housing,
mobility
and
finally,
westlake
village,
bio
partners,
westlake
village,
bio
partners
is
the
leader
in
early
stage,
venture
capital
for
many
of
our
startups
expanding.
In
thousand
oaks,
we
urge
you
to
prioritize
housing
projects
like
this
one
that
will
lead
to
economic
development
in
the
biotech
sector.
P
D
B
J
Thank
you,
chair,
newman
and
planning
commissioners.
My
name
is
adam
haverstock,
I'm
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
for
the
greater
canelo
valley
chamber
of
commerce.
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
our
board
of
directors
in
support
of
the
gateway,
the
oaks
project,
the
chamber
of
commerce,
has
endorsed
this
project
and
would
like
to
you
to
recommend
approval
of
this
item
to
the
city
council.
J
Our
members
are
enthusiastic
about
the
development
of
the
biotechnology
cluster
in
the
rancho
canejo
area.
The
thing
is,
you
cannot
grow
our
biotech
corridor
without
also
building
housing.
They
are
one
in
the
same.
This
project
would
add.
264
housing
units
within
the
city,
34
of
these
units
would
be
affordable
units
for
low
income
and
very
low
income
residents.
J
B
M
Thank
you,
commissioner,
newman
before
I
get
into
response
for
public
comments.
I'd
like
to
address
a
couple
of
things
for
the
planning
commission,
commissioner
mcmahon
asked
about
the
existing
height
of
the
industrial
office
building
and
it's
approximately
40
to
50
feet,
depending
on
where
you
take
the
height
from
the
101
freeway,
is
at
a
lower
elevation
than
it
is
in
the
service
parking
area.
But
you
have
a
industrial
office
building
at
similar
height
or
compatible
to
the
surrounding
properties,
and
also
to
the
proposed
parking
structure
and.
E
M
There
was
comments
regarding
arena
and
whether
or
not
these
projects
these
units
would
be
applied
to
the
to
the
cycle.
Because
of
the
the
terms
of
the
development
agreement
right,
you
have
a
seven
year
term.
The
264
units
would
be
applied
to
this
current
cycle,
of
course,
once
they
obtain
their
building
permits
for
these
units
and
then,
as
far
as
the
public
comments
go,
we
did
get
one
comment
from
mr
ron:
brunquist
regarding
the
access
to
the
subject:
property
off
of
lakeview
canyon,
road.
M
There
are
two
existing
access,
driveways
off
of
lakeview
canyon,
road
and
in
fact
the
ventura
county
fire
department
did
review.
The
project
did
provide
project
completeness
and
they
provide
conditions
of
approval
to
be
applied
to
this
project.
As
designed
and
so
being
that
they
deemed
the
project
complete
and
provided
those
conditions
of
approval,
yes,
the
ventura
county
fire
department
did
review
the
project
circulation
and
is
okay
with
that
proposed
design.
Q
Okay,
thank
you,
carlos
my
name
is
jim
mashiko,
I'm
one
of
the
traffic
engineers
in
public
works.
Just
to
let
you
know
we
did
have
a
traffic
study
performed
by
a
consultant
for
this
project
and
what
they
did
was
they
took
a
look
at
the
existing
traffic
counts
at
the
nearby
intersections
lakeview
canyon.
At
thousand
oaks.
Boulevard
was
one
of
them.
Q
What
they
did
was
they
did
the
am
and
pm
peak
hour
traffic
periods
and
what
they
do
is
they.
We
have
this
sort
of
a
formula
we
evaluate
the
intersection
during
those
peak
hours
and
based
on
the
amount
of
volume.
The
signal
signal
cycle
lengths
things
like
that:
it's
given
a
letter
grade
and
for
lakeview
at
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
it's
as
a
level
service
c
and
then
for
the
project.
Q
They
take
a
look
at
how
much
trips
the
project
is
going
to
generate
during
those
morning
and
evening
peak
periods
and
they
apply
it.
They
distribute
the
trips
to
the
surrounding
street
system.
About
75
percent
of
those
trips
are
going
to
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
When
you
apply
those
trips
to
the
intersection
of
lake
view
and
thousand
oaks,
the
level
of
service
stays
also
at
global
service
c.
There's
no
change
in
that
service
level
and
that's
within
the
city's
acceptable
level
of
service
standard.
Q
N
In
addition,
the
the
peak
hour
trips
for
a
high
school
area
don't
line
up
exactly
with
the
office
peak
hour
and
other
other
uses,
for
instance
the
2,
30
or
3
o'clock
pickup
time
for
the
high
school
is
much
earlier
than
the
the
peak
hour
trip
city
wide
for
businesses
and
offices,
which
is
closer
to
five
o'clock.
So
there
isn't
a
full
alignment
there,
and
I
also
will
say
that
that
school
peak
hour
is
a
20-minute
phenomenon.
N
It
happens
at
every
school,
particularly
high
schools,
because
of
how
large
they
are
they're,
much
larger
than
the
elementary
schools
in
town,
so
at
any
high
school.
If
you
go
there
within
that
20-minute
peak
crush
time
in
the
morning
in
the
afternoon,
it
is
congested
and
there's
no
there's
no
really
way
around
that.
But
the
as
I
mentioned
this
is
a
signalized
intersection.
N
So
somebody
coming
south
from
lakeview
canyon,
road,
the
high
school
traffic,
is
probably
the
existing
traffic
on
the
high
school
is
probably
more
of
a
concern
than
potential
vehicles
coming
left
on
northbound
lakeview
canyon
to
come
on
to
thousands
boulevard,
because
those
are
separate
cycles
in
that
in
that
signal,
there's
no
they're,
not
turning
at
the
same
point
in
time.
So
as
it
stands
today,
those
residents
have
to
wait
until
they
have
a
green
signal
to
turn,
and
that
will
continue
to
be
the
case
in
the
future.
M
And
additionally,
we
like
to
reiterate
that
the
landscaping
would
comply
with
the
city's
landscape,
ordinance
and
the
state's
water
efficiency
landscape
ordinance
as
well.
So
that
would
address
the
comments
that
were
brought
forth
by
mr
clint
books.
That
concludes
response
to
those
comments
and
I'm
available
for
questions.
B
O
There
are
some
questions
with
regard
to
ev
chargers
versus
eu
ready
according
to
the
development
agreement,
six
percent
or
26
spaces
would
be
required
to
be
plumbed
with
a
charger,
and
then
four
percent
or
18
would
be
ev
ready.
That's
the
residential
component
and
then
10
of
the
parking
spaces
in
the
garage
would
be
pre-plumbed.
L
L
B
M
B
B
I
L
Okay,
so
that's
not
your
problem
at
all
all
right,
never
mind,
and
then
you
were
saying
that
those
trees
are
planted
in
medians
and
parks,
etc.
As
far
as
the
replacement
trees
would
we
not
plant
those
trees
anyway,
then,
are
these
trees
replacing
something
that
we
would
have
done
or
are
these
trees
that
we
we
I
mean,
I
look
all
around
the
town
and
there's
all
kinds
of
stuff
planted
in
our
median,
so
I
was
just
curious.
Is
this
something
we
would
do
anyway
or.
L
N
L
N
L
Now,
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
in
the
street,
basically
yeah,
okay
or
behind
the
sidewalk,
all
right,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
throw
this
out
to
the
city
as
an
editorial
comment.
Then
a
lot
of
people
have
been
talking
about
a
significant
amount
of
traffic
there,
especially
amongst
high
school
students.
L
It
would
be
awesome
if
we
had
protected
bike
lanes
on
some
of
these
streets
that
led
to
these
places
so
that
kids
could
get
on
their
bikes
and
get
school,
and
maybe
we
could
reduce
the
traffic
if
we're
planting
trees
in
our
medians
and
stuff.
Like
that,
though,
we
are
eliminating
a
lot
of
the
space
that
we
could
use
to
create
these
kind
of
protected
bike
lanes.
G
G
Yeah,
I
I'm
trying
to
think
of
a
time.
That's
the
only
way
we
get
affordable
units
usually
is
through
a
density
bonus.
So
this
is
a
unique
situation,
which
is
why
I
was
asking
why
you
were
looking
to
do
that
30
years
ago,
when
I
came
out
that
baxter
building
was
in
a
much
different
use,
and
my
question
is:
is
that
at
that
time,
against
a
much
different
parking
lot,
that
that
was
a
well-used
building?
That
was
what
was
the
initial
tenant
30
years
ago
of
that
building.
G
G
M
G
G
Q
Yes,
we
we
do
have
along
thousands
boulevard.
The
signals
have
an
interconnect,
hard
wire
cable
between
them,
so
we
we
do
have
a
timing
plan
from
westlake
boulevard
to,
I
believe
up
to
lakeview.
So
I
mean,
if
there's
issues
with
congestion,
we're
constantly
looking
at.
You
know,
trying
to
tweak
and
try
to
improve
that
traffic
flow.
That's
what's
going
through
it
and.
Q
Q
G
Q
Okay,
well
that
level
of
service
c
is
looking
at
that
operation
of
that
intersection
individually,
we're
not
looking
at
the
entire.
You
know,
grouping
of
signals.
So
when
I
give
that
letter
grade
it's
a
through
f
f
is
being
the
worst
a
is
the
best,
but
that
letter
grade
of
c
is
for
that
specific
intersection.
N
Right
and
if
I
might
add,
you
know
that
that
grading
system,
if
you
design
your
system
to
have
level
of
service
a
at
every
intersection,
that
means
you've
over
built,
your
infrastructure
and
you
have
way
more
pavement
than
you
need
and
then
other
uses
are
getting,
maybe
shortchanged.
So
it
is
kind
of
a
balancing
act.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
mcmahon.
I
I
do
want
to
follow
up
quickly
on
that,
and
this
is
definitely
more
in
the
realm
of
anecdote
than
data,
but
passing
by
that
lakeview
teo
boulevard
intersection
quite
a
lot.
My
observation
has
been
that
there's
quite
a
lot
of
congestion
in
two
areas.
One
is,
I
think
there
are
three
left
turn
lanes
onto
westlake
boulevard
as
we
go
eastbound
and
not
just
at
rush
hour,
but
really
from
3
3,
30
p.m,
forward,
there's
pretty
significant
congestion
in
those
lanes
and
perhaps
a
bit
less.
You
said
20
minutes
I've.
B
I've
observed
it
to
be
shorter
and
longer
than
that,
but
cars
turning
cars
heading
eastbound
on
to
boulevard,
turning
right
onto
lakeview
to
pick
up
students
from
the
high
school,
there
can
be
a
very
significant
backup
there.
So
I
guess
more
so
for
the
left
turn
lanes,
but
but
is
there?
Is
there
a
concern
that
I
understand
that
the
level
of
service
doesn't
change
at
the
intersection,
but
is
there
a
concern
that
the
level
of
service
for
the
larger
area?
N
Yeah
on
the
first
question
that
left
going
toward
the
freeway,
I
believe,
is
what
you're
referring
to
yes
for
the
afternoon,
this
site
would
probably
have
the
reverse
traffic
and,
in
fact,
that
the
numbers
bear
that
out,
there's
more
people
leaving
in
the
morning
than
coming
home
in
the
afternoon,
so
that
won't
be
their
predominant
use
in
the
afternoon.
But
in
terms
of
the
overall
impact
yeah,
there
was
eight
intersections
that
were
studied.
N
Corrections
in
fact,
in
some
areas,
it'll
it'll
continue
to
be
a
b,
lakeview
canyon
and
baxter
way:
lake
buchanan
la
tienda,
westlake
boulevard,
us
101,
northbound
ramp,
so
the
sea
we
were
just
kind
of
referring
to
that.
One
is
the
worst
case
scenario,
but
there
are
some
bees
that
will
remain
continue
to
be
b's
post
project.
N
B
L
All
right
all
right
we're
going
into
the
weeds,
but
I
I'm
here
you've
got
my
interest.
So
what
is
the
criteria
for
these?
These
intersections
abcde?
I
mean
what
what
what?
What
do
you,
as
you
said,
a
means
that
you've
over
built
the
the
intersection
for
for
the
purposes
that
it
needs.
So
I
assume
that
would
be
putting
a
multiple,
stoplights,
all
kinds
of
fun
stuff
on
a
place
where
only
10
people
travel
a
year,
but
so
so
an
a
doesn't
necessarily
mean.
This
is
an
ideally
designed
intersection
correct.
What
is
your
criteria.
N
N
N
M
P
B
G
Thank
you,
commissioners.
Just
a
quick
point.
Mr
contreras
did
mention
299,
which
had
11
very
low.
It
did
have
a
density
bonus,
but
to
mr
lansing's
question,
I
just
also
want
to
remind
everyone
that
we
had
the
timber
school
or
the
daylight
project
and
that
had
26,
affordable
units
and
they
did
not
have
a
density.
Bonus
is
part
of
that
package.
Of
course
we
had
a
development
agreement,
but
that
was
another
one
that
we
had
in
which
they
did
some
affordable
without.
B
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
guess
I
stand
corrected,
we're
not
unprecedented,
and
there
is
that
one
case
before
us.
I
think
staff
and
based
on
the
commissioner's
questions
and
reiterations
of
the
public
comments,
have
all
addressed
your
questions
and
their
questions
adequately.
I
don't
have
anything
there.
K
L
K
Yes,
the,
as
carlos
said
it
is
about
sixty
percent
leased
right
now
and
we're
feverishly
trying
to
get
part
of
the
biotech
part
of
the
business.
That's
people
are
looking
around.
You
know
the
valley
here
to
locate
and
we're
hopeful
of
getting
more
tenants,
but
as
far
as
those
who
exist,
they'll
remain
and
we'll
go
through
the
construction
phasing
and
the
construction
is
hopefully
going
to
be
non-invasive
to
anybody.
G
L
K
B
K
M
B
G
Thank
you,
chair
newman.
I
initially
want
to
thank
the
applicant
and
the
staff
again.
I
know
this
was
tens
of
thousands
of
pages
and
years
of
time,
and
I
appreciate
the
the
fact
that
you
guys
all
work
together.
This
is
a
cohesive
application
process.
You
had
your
team
together.
I
appreciate
all
that
and
the
fact
that
you
reached
out.
G
I
know
there
are
a
few
objectors
here
and
there,
but
it
sounds
like
you
went
out
of
your
way
to
make
sure
that
anybody
in
the
community
that
had
a
comment
or
suggestion
or
involvement
you
reached
out
to-
and
I
very
much
appreciate
that
and
again
that's
a
testament
to
all
of
your
hard
work
as
a
team
and
again
any
developer
coming
to
thousand
oaks.
Please
follow
this
model.
G
I
am
a
proponent,
as
I've
said
many
many
times
of
an
experience
based
economy
concept,
we're
not
a
goods
economy,
we're
not
a
service
economy.
We're
not
an
experienced
based
economy,
so
we
need
to
find
productive
ways
to
create
an
experience
for
people
not
just
in
terms
of
commercialism,
but
also
in
terms
of
how
they
live.
That's
what
people
are
looking
for
and
we
have
to
kind
of
find
the
synergy
between
things
to
make
those
opportunities,
and
I
think
this
project
does
that.
G
In
fact,
I
think
this
was
one
of
the
most
creative
experience
based
projects
that
you're
going
to
have
the
promenade
next
door,
you're
having
high
school
you're,
having
the
ymca
you're,
having
so
many
things
in
the
community
that
I
don't
think
ultimately
are
going
to
end
up
having
a
negative
impact
on
most
of
the
residents
I'll
get
into
the
traffic
in
a
second.
But
ultimately,
I
see
this
as
a
very,
very
good
idea
of
experience
based
economic
concept
to
create
that
synergy
in
the
community
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
will
be
excited
about.
G
G
So
I
don't
think
in
of
itself.
The
loss
of
those
trees
is
as
relevant
as
it
normally
would
be.
If
I
had
grown
up
taking
my
kid
to
that
tree
or
whatever
happens
to
because
again,
this
was
a
private
business
property
that
I
don't
think
most
of
us
ended
up
seeing.
So
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that,
necessarily
especially
if,
to
the
extent
that
we're
going
to
have
the
tree
replacement
process,
mr
baker
talked
about
and
we're
going
to
have
some
of
those
trees
put
into
other
areas
of
the
city.
G
We
do
have
a
drought
issue,
so
those
will
have
to
be
put
in
very
specific
things
to
make
sense.
But
again,
the
tree
issue
is
a
problem
for
me,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
think
it's
being
mitigated,
I
think
again
from
a
community
benefit
standpoint.
The
project
makes
sense.
The
traffic
is
also
a
concern,
mr
ephraim,
I'm
sorry,
mr
burquist
and
mr
ephraim.
That
was
sitting
next
to
you.
G
G
Yes,
we
need
affordable
housing
at
the
end
of
the
day,
people
have
to
make
sure
it
makes
sense
to
build
things.
The
fact
that
they're
waiving
the
density
bonus
to
me
is
pretty
sta
shattering.
That
doesn't
happen
too
often.
Apparently
it
happened
one
other
time
and
thank
you,
mr
heer,
for
reminding
me
about
that.
But
it
doesn't
happen
often
and
we're
having
somebody
basically
give
up
on
those
market
rate
units
to
create
a
better
environment.
They
didn't,
they
didn't
look
for
seven
stories.
They
didn't
look
for
eight
stories.
G
They
looked
for
something
that
actually
fit
within
the
framework
and
the
the
structure
of
what
was
there
that
you
won't
even
see
from
the
freeway
that
to
me
shows
a
developer,
that's
working
with
the
community
and
I
very
much
value
and
appreciate
that
so
again,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
I
think
the
project
looks
great.
I
like
the
concept,
it's
an
experience
based
model.
G
If
what
I'm
saying
is
sufficient,
I
would
hereby
recommend
that
we
move
the
planning
commission
to
recommend
to
the
city
council
to
certify
the
final
environmental
impact
report
in
accordance
with
sequa
approve
the
listed
elements
in
the
application
based
on
the
findings
and
subject
to
the
recommendations
and
conditions
of
the
approval
included
in
the
resolution,
which
is
attachment
4
and
adopt
the
ordinance
which
is
attachment.
5.
O
G
B
O
E
E
I,
I
feel
bad
that
that's
the
case,
but
it's
it's
reality,
and
it
is
only
two
hours
out
of
the
day
and
mr
haydar
did
make
a
good
point
that
exiting
the
lakeview
would
be
on
a
different
traffic
signal
cycle
than
those
coming
from
the
high
school.
So
I
I
feel
bad
that
there
is
traffic
around
the
school,
but
I
think
that
the
benefits
of
this
project
outweigh
the
negative
for
two
hours
a
day
during
school
sessions.
E
E
L
All
right,
I'm
going
to
concur
with
my
fellow
commissioners
up
here.
I
like
this
project,
a
lot
I
I
actually
went
on
the
property
today
and
was
hanging
out
on
it
for
a
couple
hours.
It's
the
first
time.
I've
been
there
since
1990
when
I
was
on
a
scavenger
hunt
with
a
bunch
of
high
school
students,
and
we
had
to
go
to
that
west
lake
sign
to
get
a
clue.
L
B
First
first,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
in
the
room
and
everyone
remotely
who's
taken
part
in
this
we've
heard
many
different
viewpoints
tonight
everyone
presented
in
good
faith.
Everyone
worked
together.
I
especially
want
to
thank
staff
for
all
their
hard
work
and
working
with
the
applicant.
This
is
definitely
a
better
project
than
the
one
that
then
it
began
with,
and
I
think
everyone
on
all
sides
would
agree
with
that
statement.
So
thank
you
all
for
for
your
work
as
a
community
in
coming
together
and
finding
mutual
benefit.
B
That's
not
doing
very
much
right
now
that
it
is
supportive
of
nearby
businesses
that
it
that
it
is
providing
a
more
walkable
environment
that
it
is
forward-looking
in
its
building
codes
in
in
being
pretty
much
in
being
green
in
many
ways,
I
I
think
there's
more
that
could
be
done.
I'd
certainly
like
to
see
more
solar,
more
permeable
substances
everywhere,
more
more,
more,
a
greener
building
as
green
a
building
as
possible.
B
All
of
us
have
a
problem
here:
we're
not
producing
enough
housing
for
people
who
make
sixty
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
we're
not
producing
enough
housing
for
people
who
make
less
than
that.
But
there's
some
separate
issues
around
that
as
well,
but
in
that
in
that
upper
category,
which
is
now
low
income,
sixty
two
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand
is
low
income
for
a
family
four.
Here
we
need
to
do
more.
We
need
to
find
ways
of
bumping
up
that
percentage
and
I
sort
of
half
jokingly,
half
not
was
teasing.
B
Mr
cohn,
at
our
hearing
five
days
ago,
saying
he's
a
really
good
lawyer.
He
goes
in
and
negotiates
he
doesn't
come
back
to
his
client
and
say
sorry.
I
didn't
get
half
a
low
for
a
quarter
of
a
loaf.
I
got
an
eighth
of
a
loaf,
but
when
we
say
12
is
good
enough,
that's
essentially
what
we're
saying
we're
saying
that
we
have
in
this
case.