►
From YouTube: Planning Commission - 04/20/2020
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
Good
evening
thousand
oaks
and
welcome
to
the
planning
commission
meeting
for
april
20
2020.,
let's
all
rise
for
the
oh.
Actually
I
got
to
do
the
one
other
statement
here
for
viewers
watching
at
home.
Most
commissioners
and
the
public
are
participating
via
video
conference
or
telephone
conference
to
assist
the
city
in
our
social
distancing
efforts.
C
A
I'm
here
item
four:
are
there
any
written
comments,
announcements
or
continuances
at
this
time,
seeing
seeing
none?
There
are
no.
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
make
a
quick
comment,
as
you
can
probably
see
out
there,
this
every
planning,
commission
meeting
I've
done
so
far
has
been
different
than
the
last,
and
this
is
no
exception.
A
All
of
the
commissioners
and
the
staff
have
done
their
usual
job
of
making
sure
they're
fully
prepared
for
all
the
different
applications.
So
I
know
this
is
a
difficult
time,
but
again
rest
assured
that
everybody
is
going
and
making
sure
that
they
are
doing
everything
possible
to
make
sure
this
process
is
done
in
the
same
substantive
and
exceptional
manner.
So
you
can
rest
assured
we
are
taking
care
of
our
responsibilities
to
do
that.
For
the
city.
A
I
don't
think
there
are
any
public
comments,
so
we
will
skip
item
five
and
go
to
item
six,
the
consent
calendar.
Next
we
have
the
consent
calendar
with
the
minutes
for
the
march
16th
2020
meeting.
Do
any
of
my
fellow
commissioners
have
any
comments,
or
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
C
A
A
Next,
on
our
hearings,
we're
going
to
switch
up
7a
and
7b.
We
had
some
availability
issues
that
require
us
to
kind
of
move
things
around.
So
we're
going
to
do.
7B
first
will
secretary.
Please
call
that
matter.
B
B
And
landmark
tree
permit
ltp
2019-71081
to
allow
construction
of
a
new
13
four
square
foot,
two-story
building
with
the
new
swimming
pool,
site
entry,
guard
house,
trash
enclosure,
retaining
walls
and
associated
grading
activities,
hardscape
land
and
landscape,
including
the
following
number
one:
removal
of
three
oak
trees
and
one
sycamore
tree.
Two
encroachment
into
the
protected
zone
of
one
oak
tree
and
three
authorize.
A
parking
reduction
project
is
located
at
4761
valley,
spring
drive
and
the
applicant
is
north
ranch
country
club.
E
E
The
applications
are
before
you
tonight
for
consideration
in
that
the
request
involves
the
removal
of
three
oak
trees
and
one
sycamore
tree.
Additionally,
the
proposed
major
modification
to
the
existing
golf
facility
involves
a
parking
reduction
to
satisfy
actual
parking
demands
to
be
authorized
by
the
planning
commission
as
such,
since
one
application
requires
planning
commission
review,
all
associated
entitlements
are
brought
forward
for
your
consideration
tonight.
E
With
regards
to
the
project
setting
in
the
site,
these
the
property
is
zoned
pl,
which
is
public
quasi-public
institutional
lands
and
facilities.
The
subject
site
indicated
here
in
red
is
13
acres.
However,
the
actual
of
golf
course
facility
is
actually
158
acres
in
area,
but
the
project
before
you
tonight
includes
two
parcels
that
are
13
acres
in
area.
However,
the
area
to
be
impacted
by
the
proposed
redevelopment,
which
includes
the
construction
of
this
new
building
and
accessory
structures,
totals
only
two
acres
of
that
13
acre
area.
E
The
actual
lifestyle
center
to
be
constructed
that
13,
354
square
foot
building
will
compose
1.75
acres
in
area
the
site
is
the
site
is
composed
of
an
existing
clubhouse
building
and
it's
a
27
hole
golf
course
with
12
tennis
courts.
The
area
impacted
by
the
proposed
project
tonight
does
support
six
oak
trees
and
five
sycamore
trees.
A
total
of
11
oak
and
landmark
trees
on
the
property
here
is
an
aerial
photograph
demonstrating
the
lay
of
the
land.
As
you
can
see,
you
have
an
access
road
that
leads
from
valley
valley
spring
road.
E
Over
to
the
existing
clubhouse
and
the
existing
tennis
club
house,
you
have
the
existing
tennis
courts
immediately
to
the
east
of
the
existing
tennis
clubhouse,
and
you
have
the
golf
club
house
in
purple,
and
then
you
also
have
the
golf
course
beyond
that
indicated
in
blue.
You
have
some
residential
properties
located
to
the
south,
south,
east
and
southwest
of
the
proposed
project
site.
The
area
demonstrated
in
red
is
the
location
of
the
new
13
354
square
foot.
E
E
The
two
retaining
walls
won't
exceed
more
than
six
feet
in
height
associated
development,
includes
grading,
hardscape,
landscape,
drainage
basins
and
driveway
access
modifications
for
the
guard
house.
As
previously,
as
previously
stated,
the
proposed
project
does
include
the
removal
of
three
oak
trees
and
one
sycamore
tree
as
a
result
of
the
project.
E
Here's
the
site
plan
of
the
proposed
project.
I
tried
to
provide
some
some
colors
here
to
demonstrate
what
it
is
that's
occurring
on
the
site.
The
purple
square
is
the
proposed
13
000
square
foot,
new
lifestyle
center
building
in
the
blue,
immediately
adjacent
to
the
building.
You
have
a
pool,
and
the
area
in
orange
just
to
the
north
of
the
of
the
building
and
to
the
east
of
the
building
is
the
outdoor
seating
area.
Where
you
have
the
the
lounge
bar
and
cafe,
and
then
to
the
top
left.
You
have
a
red
square.
E
That's
where
the
proposed
trash
enclosure
will
be
located
is
near
all
the
maintenance
buildings
existing
on
the
site
you
have
to
the
east.
You
have
the
proposed
drainage
basin
for
the
project,
and
then
you
have
the
to
the
northeast.
You
have
the
existing
golf
course
facility
to
the
southeast.
You
have
the
replacement
tennis
court
that
includes
a
restroom
facility
and
immediately
to
the
south.
You
have
residential
properties,
approximately
150
feet
to
the
south
of
the
proposed
building.
E
E
E
E
Here's
a
photograph
of
the
subject
property.
This
is
taken
from
the
existing
golf
club
house,
looking
east
towards
the
existing
tennis
clubhouse.
Here's
a
photograph
that
I
took
of
the
existing
tennis
clubhouse
looking
towards
the
south.
As
you
can
see,
the
elevation
where
the
existing
clubhouse
is.
It
starts
descending
towards
the
east,
where
the
cart
path
is
here's
the
photograph
of
the
existing
tennis
clubhouse,
looking
at
it
directly
from
that
parking
lot
area.
E
E
E
With
regards
to
the
protected
trees,
as
previously
mentioned,
there
will
be
three
oak
trees
to
be
removed.
What
I've
done
here
is
you
can
see
that
one
oak
tree
in
the
green
in
the
green
circle,
just
immediately
south
of
the
proposed
new
building,
will
be
removed
and
two
other
oak
trees.
Immediately.
East
of
the
entry
guard
house
will
be
removed
as
a
result
of
the
project.
E
The
the
yellow
circle.
There
indicates
the
location
of
the
sycamore
tree
that
will
be
removed
as
a
result
of
this
project.
That's
in
fact,
where
the
proposed
pool
and
spa
will
be
located
and
then
the
on
the
right
hand
side
you
have
in
dash
green.
I
indicate
the
the
oak
tree
to
be
encroached
on
as
a
result
of
the
of
the
modification
to
the
access
road
and
retaining
walls.
E
If
I
can
go
back
for
a
minute
on
the
slide
for
the
protected
trees,
staff
did
evaluate
the
oak
tree
and
sycamore
tree
removal
based
on
the
recommendations
by
the
city's
tree
consultant.
E
E
With
regards
to
grading,
the
proposed
project
includes
748
cubic
yards
of
cut
and
8
195
cubic
yards
of
fill
an
import
of
740
cubic
yards
of
soil.
This
is
necessary
because,
as
the
site
later
I'll
demonstrate,
there's
a
topography
issues,
as
I
previously
mentioned,
the
pad
where
the
existing
tennis
clubhouse
is
located,
is
at
a
higher
elevation
than
where
the
golf
cart.
The
golf
cart
path
is,
I
have
a,
I
have
a
photograph
here
that
demonstrates
this.
E
It
descends
so
most
of
the
area
that
I
highlight
here
in
green
with
the
existing
topography
is
where
you're
going
to
have
most
of
the
fill
occurring
as
a
result
of
the
project,
which
is
why
you
have
the
7
447
cubic
yards
of
fill,
however,
with
appropriate
conditions,
including,
but
not
limited
to
pre-construction
meetings
with
neighbors
providing
contact
information
if
disturbances
occur
traffic
control
plans.
Amongst
other
measures,
the
proposed
grading
will
have
a
minimal
impact
on
surrounding
properties.
E
E
With
regards
to
parking
based
on
a
parking
study
that
was
provided
for
the
project,
this
proposed
use
would
be
would
require
demand
of
45
parking
spaces.
E
E
However,
staff
did
take
the
information
from
the
parking
study,
and
the
parking
study
indicates
that
on
peak
hours
being
that
on
a
saturday
there
were
189
unused
parking
spaces
documented
and
then
on
sunday
there
were
284
unused
parking
spaces
that
were
documented
on
the
subject.
Property
based
on
the
surplus
of
parking
staff
can
support
the
the
increased
demand
of
45
spaces
on
the
subject
site,
in
that
it
falls
between
the
total
surplus
that
was
provided
for
saturday
and
sunday,
based
on
the
parking
study.
E
Additionally,
staff
can
support
the
the
proposed
parking
demand
as
a
result
of
the
project
and
that
the
country
club
is
a
private
recreational
facility
for
use
by
a
limited
amount
of
members.
There
is
no
increase
in
membership
resulting
from
the
project.
Currently,
the
the
club
has
580
members
and
a
total
of
600
members
is
the
maximum.
E
The
replacement
structure
will
provide
the
same
purpose
and
capacity
as
a
previously
existing
building,
in
that
it
was
a
pre
is
already
a
previously
existing
tennis
clubhouse.
Simply
this
project
will
include
a
tennis,
clubhouse
and
pro
shop
and
add
other
amenities
for
the
members
to
use
and,
finally,
any
change
in
the
oper,
well,
condition
of
approval
has
been
applied
to
the
project
require,
requiring
that
any
change
in
the
operation
will
require
review
and
approval
by
the
city
and
will
require
additional
parking
analysis.
Any
future
modifications
at
that
time.
E
Here's
the
first
floor
plan
of
the
proposed
building.
This
is
the
new
lifestyle
center
building.
Here
you
can
see
that
they
propose
a
locker
room
area
on
the
western
portion
of
the
building.
They
have
a
bar
and
grill
towards
the
northern
portion
of
the
building
that's
facing
towards
the
golf
course.
You
have
a
kitchen
area.
You
have
the
office
areas
next
to
the
tennis
pro
shop
and
you
have
a
500
square
foot
child
care
area.
E
E
With
regards
to
the
proposed
elevations,
the
proposed
building
meets
all
the
architectural
design
guidelines
of
the
city.
As
this
elevation
demonstrates,
it
has
a
roof
line
variations.
They
have
provided
enhanced
building
materials,
they
provided
enhanced,
facade,
articulation
and
aluminum
store
fronts
for
the
building.
E
Here
are
the
other
elevations
looking
towards
the
north
of
the
on
the
property
and
to
the
south
again
roofline
variation
decorative
trim,
wood
trellis.
This
kind
of
design
is
consistent
with
buildings
in
the
area
and
this
building
is
of
similar
scale
and
mass
as
the
existing
golf
clubhouse
on
site.
Right
now,
with
regards
to
the
landscaping,
the
proposed
project
will
include
new
landscaping
as
a
result
of
this
development
project.
E
E
Basically,
this
this
project
will
include
a
new
new
landscaping
which
will
include
the
new
mitigation
trees
to
be
planted
as
a
result
of
the
removal
of
the
sycamore
and
oak
trees.
E
E
The
design
meets
all
all
the
development
standards,
including
setbacks,
height
and
wall
height,
the
design,
minimizes,
visual
impacts
and
surrounding
properties.
In
that
it
does
not
exceed
35
feet
in
height.
It
has
provided
attractive
design
with
enhanced
building
materials
and
roof
line.
Variations.
E
The
oak
and
landmark
tree
removals
and
encroachments
are
reasonable
and
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
oak
and
landmark
tree.
Ordinance
and
staff
agrees
with
the
conclusions
of
the
city
street
consultant
regarding
the
tree
removals
and
the
mitigation
for
those
trees
to
be
planted
on
the
site
and
the
parking
reduction
can
be
supported
in
that
the
existing
parking
supply
meets
the
actual
demands.
Again.
E
The
parking
study
demonstrates
that
there
is
a
surplus
of
parking
during
peak
hours
on
a
saturday
and
sunday
and
with
the
additional
50
45
parking
spaces
required
for
the
project,
it
would
be
accommodating
to
meet
the
demand
of
of
those
spaces.
For
the
use,
staff
would
like
to
mention:
staff
did
receive
correspondence
from
various
surrounding
neighbors
staff,
received
correspondence
in
opposition
and
also
in
support
of
the
project.
E
E
Questions
regarding
golf
ball
safety
and
also
questions
regarding
the
proposed
landscaping
for
the
proposed
project
and
also
questions
regarding
the
access
to
the
site.
Regarding
the
entry
guard
house,
staff
feels
that
they
went
ahead
and
provided
the
necessary
correspondence
and
information
to
address
those
concerns,
and
I
believe
those
neighbors
will
be
speaking
tonight
regarding
the
project
staff
recommended
the
planning
commission
approve,
rpmj,
2019,
7628,
otp,
19-70662
and
ltp
19-71081,
based
on
the
findings
and
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval,
continuing
the
resolution
and
the
resolution
for
the
staff
report
as
attachment
number
one.
A
E
I
I
did
receive
a
letter
from
a
separate
applicant.
Oh
sorry,
a
separate
surrounding
property
owner
miss
cal
lowe's.
I
believe
her
name
is
and
she
had
questions
regarding
the
scope
of
the
work
and
noticing
for
the
project.
I
provided
that
feedback
to
her
on
friday.
D
Regarding
the
height
of
the
new
center,
it's
35
feet
high.
I
believe,
at
that
height,
would
any
of
the
windows
be
at
or
near
the
same
level
as
the
homes
to
the
south
on
kingsborough
court.
E
Staff
does
not
believe
so
because
we
have
verified
that
through
cross-sections
for
the
proposed
building,
the
properties
that
are
directly
to
the
south
are
50
feet
above
the
elevation
for
the
proposed
building
being
that
the
building
is
only
35
feet.
No
windows
would
be
up
to
50
feet
tall
and
be
at
the
elevation
of
those
single
family
homes
to
the
south.
D
E
No,
so
the
the
top
of
the
roof
of
the
building
would
be
approximately
15
feet
below
the
actual
elevation
to
the
residential
properties
to
the
south,
so
any
window
would
hit
up
to
35
feet
in
this
case.
No
window
would
do
so
because
the
35
foot
maximum
includes
the
area
where
the
parapets
are
located,
and
so
that
being
said
with
with
the
50
foot,
elevation
where
above
the
pad,
where
the
proposed
building
will
be
located,
staff
can
verify
that
no
window
would
be
up
to
that.
50
50
foot
marker.
E
D
E
A
Not
hearing
any,
we
will
go
to
the
applicant
who
will
have
15
minutes,
please
when
you,
when
you
speak,
not
come
up
but
speak.
Please
state
your
name
and
city
of
residence
for
the
record.
I
believe
we
have
jenny
and
again
I'm
not
a
good
person
with
names,
so
I'll,
say
ducey
or
deuce.
F
Yeah
dudes.
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
jenny
deuce.
I
live
in
west
lake
village,
general
manager
here
at
north
branch
country
club.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
this
evening
to
discuss
our
proposed
lifestyle
center
project
at
north
ranch.
North
ranch
was
established
by
prudential
in
1975
and
originally
built
18
holes
of
golf.
F
The
third
nine
was
added
in
1995
to
give
our
members
27
holes
the
club
transferred
to
an
equity
club
when
the
members
purchased
it
from
prudential
in
1990.
At
that
time,
the
club
experienced
a
surge
of
members.
Many
of
the
members
who
joined
when
the
club
opened
in
the
mid
70s
to
when
the
members
purchased
it
from
prudential
in
1990
are
now
in
the
exiting
stages
or
starting
to
exit
the
club
for
various
reasons
such
as
relocation
age,
not
able
to
use
the
club
they
once
did
or
injuries.
F
F
However,
the
trends
in
the
club
industry
clearly
point
to
the
fact
the
clubs
must
offer
amenities
for
the
entire
family
or
must
be
considered
a
full-service
club
in
order
to
survive.
North
ranch
country
club
has
looked
at
adding
amenities
for
many
years.
The
primary
reason
is
to
drive
membership
by
adding
value,
to
retain
our
current
members
and
attract
new
perspective
members.
F
The
number
one
trend
in
the
club
industry
and
one
experts
say
will
continue
for
some
time.
Is
fitness
and
wellness
followed
by
the
addition
of
a
pool
and
casual
dining?
In
fact,
many
clubs
are
have
added
these
amenities
some
time
ago
and
are
finding
the
usage
was
way
beyond
what
they
anticipated
and
membership
growth
and
viability
increase.
F
We've
seen
it
firsthand
here
in
southern
california,
the
clubs
who
are
reinvesting
their
capital
to
encompass
these
elements
are
the
ones
that
are
thriving.
Some
examples
of
local
clubs
who
have
added
these
amenities
over
the
past
few
years
are
rolling
hills,
bel,
air,
brentwood,
hill,
crest,
sherwood
saturday,
braemar
calabasas.
F
Our
current
members
want
these
amenities
and
new
families
who
are
moving
into
the
local
area
are
asking
and
searching
for
these
amenities.
At
a
country
club
with
the
addition
of
the
lifestyle
center,
we
will
increase
employment.
We
anticipate
with
the
dining
outlet
swimming
facilities,
reception,
lobby
area,
fitness
areas
and
trainers.
We
will
add
full-time
and
part-time
staff
to
our
employee
account.
I
believe
north
ranch
is
a
dedicated
employer
in
the
area
and
proud
to
say
that
during
this
coven
19
pandemic,
we
have
not
furloughed
or
laid
any
employee
off.
F
In
our
ongoing
community
outreach,
we
annually
send
letters
to
the
neighbors
informing
them
of
our
social
calendar
and
we
send
out
subsequent
notices
of
any
date
changes
which
involve
live,
music
and
supply
away
to
communicate.
Should
they
have
any
questions.
We
also
sent
neighbors
notices
of
our
proposed
lifestyle
center
project.
We
hosted
two
open
houses,
inviting
them
to
see
our
project
plans
and
ask
any
questions
of
the
board
of
directors
or
management.
F
We
believe,
even
more
now
than
ever.
Our
club
must
add
these
amenities
to
thrive
in
the
future.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
We
appreciate
the
thousand
oaks
planning
team
for
working
with
us
on
this
project
and
our
architect
is
here
as
well.
If
and
we
are
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
G
A
Few
questions
miss
deuce
I
just
want
to
ask
about
the
pool
area
is
the
only
entrance
in
and
out
to
get
to.
The
pool
is
going
to
be
through
the
new
building.
Yes,
so
there's
no
way
kids
can
get
out
into
the
parking
lot
unless
they
go
actually
through
the
main
entrance
of
the
building
correct.
A
F
The
membership
approved
us
getting
a
loan
and
we
also
have
some
allocated
funds
set
aside.
So
this
was
approved.
You
know
by
the
membership
quite
some
time
ago,
and
we
are
you
know,
anticipating
using
them
for
this.
Okay.
A
I
noticed
two
of
the
four
trees
to
be
removed
are
to
incorporate
a
new
guard
building.
Is
there
what
was
the
guard
building
for?
Is
there
a
concern
with
regard
to
trespassing
or
what's
the
purpose.
F
You
know
yeah,
we
are
exposed
without
a
gate
up
front.
We
have
many.
You
know
we
are
exposed
to
anyone
coming
in,
not
just
members
we'd
like
to
control
the
access
a
little
bit
more.
I
think
that
would
provide
a
much
safer
environment
for
our
members
and
our
staff
and
neighbors.
A
F
It
would
be
during
regular
business
hours
and
the
spa
operations
would
be
massage.
You
know
during
the
day.
Most
of
the
time
I
would
imagine
would
be
you
know
the
nine
to
five
business
hours.
A
Okay,
that
that
actually
was
one
of
the
concerns
that
one
of
the
citizens
had
with
regard
to
when
it
was
supposed
to
be
in
operation.
I
will
go
back
to
commissioners
any
other
questions
by
commissioners.
A
Having
not
heard
any,
I
will
then
go
to
the
public
speaker.
Excuse.
I
Me
I'm
sorry
this
is
commissioner
mcmahon.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it's
clarified
to
everyone.
The
spa
wouldn't
be
open
at
5
00
a.m,
but
I
I
understand,
maybe
the
gym
would
be
open
at
5
00
a.m.
A
A
Okay,
all
right,
we
will
any
other
commissioner
questions
all
right.
We
will
now
go
to
the
speaker
cards
with
regard
to
this
issue,
all
of
which
are
participating
by
video
conference.
Each
speaker
will
have
five
minutes,
please
again,
state
your
name
and
city
of
residence
for
the
record.
The
first
one
I
have
is
brian
poliquin.
J
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
we'll
maybe
get
back
to
you
in
the
event.
There's
a
rebuttal.
Next
is
chip
humphreys.
J
A
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
darren
cohan.
A
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
darren
cohen.
L
Hi
I'm
the
current
president.
Can
you
hear.
J
J
A
Thank
you
next,
mike
tingas.
M
A
All
right,
thank
you
again.
If
we
do
we'll,
let
you
guys
talk
on
rebuttal
if
there
are
issues
next,
edward
grip.
A
N
N
N
The
club
has
recognized
this
danger
and
has
constructed
a
30-foot
high
barrier
on
the
north
side
of
the
most
easterly
courts.
This
barrier
is
largely
ineffective.
It
is
constructed
at
the
end
of
the
golf
ball
flight
path
when
the
ball
is
descending
at
approximately
45
degree
angle
to
the
ground.
It
is
also
constructed
roughly
parallel
to
the
flight
line
of
the
ball.
The
barrier
would
be
effective
if
it
were
located
adjacent
to
the
t,
as
has
been
done
at
the
las
robles
greens
and
west
lake
golf
courses.
N
If
these
barriers
are
effective
at
the
las
robles
and
west
lake
courses,
a
similar
barrier
located
adjacent
to
the
t
will
be
effective
at
the
north
ranch
course
for
the
safety
of
the
tennis
court
players
and
the
neighbors.
I
am
asking
that
the
permit
for
this
project
be
on
constructing
this
badly
needed
safe
feature.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr.
Do
we
have.
A
Any
questions
from
commissioners
from
mr
grip:
no,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
questions
right
now.
Thank
you,
mr
grip.
L
B
Hello,
I'm
marian
callos,
to
whom
carlos
referred
and
was
in
communication.
With
this
past
friday,
I
was
reviewing
the
timeline
for
the
project
and
noted
the
following
dates:
october
3rd
2018,
the
membership
approved
moving
forward
with
the
project
that
was
approximately
a
year
and
a
half
ago
february,
1st
2019
discussion
about
getting
feedback
from
members
and
finalizing
design.
That
was
just
over
one
year
ago,
the
end
of
february.
B
The
final
plans
were
submitted
to
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
and
the
last
update
was
almost
one
year
ago
on
may
31st
2019
when
talked
about
the
new
athletic
center
fitting
into
the
larger
golf
course
improvement
project.
So
I
have
four
questions.
My
very
first
question
is:
when
did
you
first
alert
the
neighboring
properties.
B
Okay.
Secondly,
since
this
is
a
very
calm
and
quiet
neighborhood,
what
are
your
plans
for
the
consideration
of
the
excess
noise?
Your
project
is
going
to
create
carlos
already
addressed
to
me
that
7
a.m
to
7
p.m
would
be
the
hours
of
construction
every
day
for
six
days
in
a
row
with
sundays
off
for
months
or
for
how
long
you
expect
the
construction
period
to
last.
B
L
L
L
Over
the
past
few
months,
mr
contreras
and
I
have
met
several
times
discussing
the
project
and
we've
resolved
the
problems
of
light
pollution
equipment
being
camouflaged
on
the
top
of
the
building,
and
so
I'm
in
favor
of
this
project.
I
I
don't
have
any
real
problem,
but
I
did
notice
in
the
staff
report,
though,
that
there
was
no
mention
of
the
operation
hours,
and
I
brought
this
to
the
attention
of
mike
tinkus,
who
was
associated
with
the
club
and
expressed
my
concern
that
being
so
close
to
the
club.
L
That
5
am
start
time
would
be
a
little
annoying
and
over
time
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that
we
could
close
the
south
parking
lot
and
until
7am,
which
would
be
the
normal
operating
hours
that
the
club
experiences
now
and
my
request
would
be
to
include
this
in
the
operating
permit
or
the
construction
permits
to
actually
have
the
parking
lot
right.
Adjacent
to
my
house.
I'm
about.
L
I
have
about
a
30
foot
setback
from
the
parking
lot
and,
as
you
were
told,
I'm
about
50
feet
above
and
sound
travels
up
now
we
don't
know
how
many
people
will
be
arriving
there
at
five,
how
much
noise
they'll
make,
but
to
ensure
that
my
standard
of
living
is
maintained.
I
would
really
appreciate
if
that
parking
lot
would
not
open
until
seven
and
since
it's
an
athletic
club
walking
from
the
main
parking
lot
shouldn't
be
too
much
of
a
problem,
a
little
extra
exercise.
A
Thank
you,
mr
reader.
That
was
all
of
the
public
speakers
I
had
on
this
matter.
So
we'll
go
back
to
staff.
Mr
contreras,
did
you
have
any
further
comments
and
responses.
E
Staff
does
have
a
few
responses
for
these
comments
that
were
provided
with
regards
to
mr
grip
and
the
comments
regarding
the
tennis
court
and
the
golf
ball
issue.
There
will
be
fencing
provided
for
the
new
tennis
court.
I
mean
fencing
proposed
for
the
tennis
court
will
be
similar
to
that
as
a
that
is
existing
right
now
for
the
existing
tennis
court
facility,
but
based
on
this
project,
because
it
only
affects
the
tennis
clubhouse
itself.
E
The
staff
does
not
see
a
nexus
as
to
requiring
the
applicant
to
modify
elements
of
the
actual
golf
course
facility
for
this
particular
project.
If
the
applicant
were
to
choose
to
make
modifications
to
the
golf
course
facility
itself
in
a
future
date,
staff
would
consider
those
kind
of
conditions
for
the
proposed
modification
at
that
time.
E
With
regards
to
the
comments
that
ms
kellows
provided
regarding
excess
noise
and
construction
staff
did
did
provide
a
construction
management
plan
to
ms
carlos
indicating
the
proposed
staging
and
the
proposed
timelines
for
the
proposed
construction
of
this
project.
E
Additionally,
for
the
with
regards
to
that,
the
applicant
can
speak
more
to
the
proposed
timelines
for
construction
and
indicate
how
they're
going
to
reduce
any
kind
of
noise
issues
regarding
construction
for
the
proposed
project.
E
With
regards
to
the
sound
barrier
the
applicant
did
design
after
various
iterations
of
the
proposed
floor
plans
on
the
project.
They
did
locate
the
outdoor
seating
areas
that
are
more
I'd,
say
more
noise
that
would
result
in
more
noise
impacts
facing
towards
the
actual
golf
course
opposed
to
facing
towards
the
residential
properties
to
the
south
and
the
southwest.
E
Yes,
there
is
a
pool
facility.
However,
the
pool
operations
and
any
other
associated
operations
will
be
required
to
comply
with
the
underlying
approvals
for
the
underlying
residential
development
permit.
That
was
first
approved
for
the
construction
of
the
facility
and
also
for
the
sup.
The
special
use
permit
that
was
required
for
any
special
events
on
the
subject.
Property
that
had
conditions
regarding
noise
with
regards
to
the
noticing
of
the
project
staff
did
indicate
that
there
were
various
times
when
this
project
was
noticed.
E
Initially,
when
this
project
was
submitted
for
a
pre-application
consideration,
it
was
on
the
development
advisory
development
activity
report.
That's
public,
that's
available
to
the
public
indicating
the
proposed
project
to
to
the
residents
of
the
of
thousand
oaks.
However,
once
the
formal
application
came
in
and
staff
was
able
to
deem
the
project
complete,
there
was
a
notice
of
application,
a
small
sign
posted
on
the
property
on
december
11,
2019
and
then
another
large
sign
indicating
the
proposed
scope
of
the
work
was
posted
on
the
subject
property
on
december
12,
2019
and
then
on
january,
9
2020.
E
The
notice
for
the
proposed
project
was
mailed
to
all
the
property
owners
within
500
feet
of
the
project
site
and
then
on
april
6th.
The
the
notice
of
hearing
was
published
in
the
city's
paper.
So
that's
the
the
the
timelines
for
the
noticing
for
the
project
after
formal
submittal
of
an
application.
E
E
E
The
pool
facility
would
be
operating
from
6
a.m,
to
7
p.m,
in
the
winter,
in
the
fall
and
then
6
a.m
to
10
p.m.
During
the
spring
and
summer,
the
the
grill
and
bar
area
for
the
pool
will
be
operating
monday
through
sunday,
6
a.m,
to
4
p.m,
during
the
winter
and
fall
and
nine
sorry,
six
a.m
to
nine
p.m.
A
Thank
you,
mr
contreras
one
housekeeping
matter
for
all
of
you
on
the
line.
Please
mute
yourself
in
the
event
you're,
not
speaking
just
so,
we
don't
have
any
of
the
backup
noise.
A
We
should
now
go
to
the
applicant
for
rebuttal
of
any
additional
information.
Miss
deuce.
Are
you
still
there.
F
Hi,
I
guess
the
comment
about
reaching
out
to
the
community.
We
did
send
multiple
letters
from
the
club.
F
So
we've
done
quite
a
bit
of
outreach
in
order
to
try
to
get
you
know
the
information
out
to
the
neighbors.
Should
they
have
any
questions
regarding
sound
barriers?
Probably
brian
poliquin
would
probably
be
best
to
answer
that,
but
I
know
we
do
plan
on
having
some
vegetation
screening
and
certain
retaining
walls
in
certain
areas
to
you
know:
try
to
mitigate
some
of
the
the
noise,
particularly
from
like
the
pool
area.
A
You
want
to
have
mr
colquin
speak
to
that
issue.
Now.
J
There
we
go
sorry
just
trying
to
get
the
mute
button
right
as
far
as
we
have
the
most.
The
pool
is
entirely
fenced,
with
pilaster
and
fencing
with
plant
material
around
the
perimeter,
so
it's
fairly
well
screened
and
hidden
away,
and
we
tried
to
really
position
the
whole
building
so
that
most
of
any
sound
activities
would
occur
toward
the
club
and
off
to
the
tennis
court,
but
not
occur
to
the
back
parking
lot.
A
J
We
I
can
answer
on
that
mike,
and
I
talked
about
that
earlier
and
they're
agreeable
not
to
have
the
south
parking
lot
open
at
five
a.m
and
that
there's
a
gate
entry
from
the
club
direction,
which
is
to
the
north,
that
people
can
enter
into
and
then
go
into
the
lifestyle
center
from
the
side
on
the
west
side,
and
that
way
we
can
avoid
having
people
at
5
a.m,
coming
through
the
doors
and
parking
in
that
parking
lot
on
the
south
end.
J
A
All
right,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
an
understanding.
This
would
be
a
condition
as
part
of
the
process
and
and
our
our
wonderful
city
attorney.
Mr
heater
is
actually
writing
down
information
to
recite
back
into
that.
So
misdeuce
is
that
you're
understanding
that
the
applicant
would
be
agreeable
to
that
provision.
A
M
Oh,
this
is
mike
dingus.
I
can.
I
can
fill
in
the
blanks
there.
So
basically
mike
and
I
spoke
earlier,
and
so
it's
pretty
simple.
Well,
basically,
access
to
the
fitness
center
will
come
off
of
the
main
parking
lot
and
so
the
entrance
to
the
south,
which
is
below
mr
reader's
house.
M
A
So
I'm
just
trying
to
make
it
visually,
so
people
are
to
between
five
and
seven
after
they
go
through
the
guard
gate.
They
would
turn
left
into
the
western
entrance
to
the
parking
lot
park
in
the
main
parking
lot
and
then
walk
to
the
building
across
the
way
across
the
street.
Right.
M
A
A
G
So,
if
I
may
chair
and
for
the
planners
and
for
the
applicant
itself,
I
think
we
would
do
next
in
order
probably
just
go
with
118,
which
is,
I
have
conditions
up
to
117
and
the
condition
title
would
be
south
parking
lot.
Access
restrictions
and
the
condition
would
read.
A
F
K
Okay,
mr
curtis,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
My
question
would
be,
I
know,
we're
talking
a
lot
about
the
5
a.m.
Start
time
for
the
gym.
What
time
does
the
tennis
court
currently
start,
and
my
other
question
is-
is
at
the
guard
gate
location?
K
E
K
Well,
I
was
asking
what
what
the
current
hours
right
now
I
know
golfers
get
there
very
early
in
the
morning,
but
I
was
curious
what
time
tennis
starts,
because
that's
the
the
closest
activity
to
where
the
pool
the
gym
are
now
would
be
the
tennis
courts
right
now.
E
Yeah,
my
understanding
is
that
the
proposed
tennis
court
facilities
would
offer
the
same
hours
as
a
gym.
However,
the
applicant
can
give
you
more
detailed
information
regarding
those
hours
that
are
existing
and
also
will
be
proposed.
I
can
give
you
I
could
provide
feedback
on
the
entry
guard
house
question
you
had.
Staff
did
not
receive
any
any
correspondence
or
questions
of
concern
regarding
the
entry
guard
house
and
vehicles
being
stacked
there.
E
E
K
Copy
that
I
just
knew
there
was
somebody
about
94
feet
away.
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
address
my
question
to
the
applicant.
Then
what
are
the
current
hours
of
the
tennis
location
and
are
they
different
or
would
they
be
different
than
the
the
pool
and
the
intended
gym?.
F
Thank
you,
yeah
tennis
is
traditionally
is
open.
You
know
daylight
to
10
pm,
but
often
times
during
the
week.
It's
more
of
an
eight
o'clock
start
on
the
weekend.
It's
a
little
earlier,
sometimes
around
the
seven
o'clock
time.
It's
usually
not
before
seven,
though
traditionally
outside
so
seven
7
a.m
is
usually
the
starting
point.
I
Commissioner,
mcmahon
here
I
I
would
have
a
favor
to
ask
of
mr
contreras.
I
am
a
visual
person.
I
I
would
love
it
if
you
could
put
the
site
plan
on
and
just
point
out
the
the
the
south
parking
lot,
the
main
parking
lot
and
the
route
that
a
person
would
take
at
seven
a.m
and
at
five
a.m
to
get
from
one
area
to
the
other.
If
you
wouldn't
mind.
E
No
problem,
commissioner
mcmahon,
so
I
have
the
site
plan
here,
but
I
think
what
would
probably
be
best
to
demonstrate
this
would
probably
be
this
aerial
photograph,
a
bird's-eye
view
of
the
facility.
Looking
to
the
north,
you
have
that
access
road
to
the
south,
of
where
the
golf
clubhouse
is
that
access
road
is
extends
from
where
the
proposed
entry
guard
house
is
as
it's
located
near
valley,
spring
road.
E
A
Any
other
commissioner
questions
I
had
one
and
I'll
I'll
make
it.
K
A
K
One
more
mr
lanson
as
well
go
ahead.
My
question
is:
do
we
have
any
renderings
of
what
the
actual
fencing
will
be
around
the
pool?
I
know
we're
talking
about
fencing.
I
don't
know.
If
it's
going
to
be,
is
it
is
it?
Is
it
a
cinder
block
wall?
Is
it?
Is
it
what's
it
composed
of.
E
Bear
with
bear
with
me
for
one
sec
for
one.
Second:
we
did
staff
did
receive
a
various
cross-sections
of
retaining
walls
and
fence
plans.
I'm
just
going
to
try
to
get
you
to
the
right
sheet
under
the
attachments
that
were
provided
to
you.
E
Yes,
so
staff
did
receive
the
the
section
of
the
fences.
It
doesn't
give
you
a
great
detail.
It
just
gives
you
the
actual
height
of
the
fence
and
its
location
relative
to
the
proposed
retaining
walls.
If
you
go
under
your
project
plan
attachments,
which
is
attachment,
number
five.
Yes,
if
you
go
to
the
yeah.
K
That's
why
I
was
asking
it
it's
not
detailed
enough
for
me.
That's
why
I
was
curious
because
one
of
the
one
of
the
public
speakers
that
was
asking
about
about
sound
coming
out
of
there.
So
I
was
just
curious
if
we
had
if
we
had
a
better
answer
for
them,.
E
The
type
of
fencing
that's
going
to
be
surrounding
the
perimeter
of
the
pool
is
primarily
wrought
iron,
fencing
and
to
the
immediately
to
the
east
of
the
outdoor
seating
area
between
the
tennis
courts
and
the
actual
building
you're
going
to
have
two
retaining
walls
that
are
stacked
no
more
than
six
feet
and
height.
Each
wall.
K
Yeah,
like
I
said
it
was
just
difficult
to
visualize.
I
don't
because
when
I
was
out
the
facility
that
landscape
is
going
to
change
so
much
they're
going
to
fill
in.
You
know
like,
like
we
said,
what's:
7
000
tons
or
so
of
earth,
so
I
was
just
curious
if
we
had
a
good
representation
of
that,
but
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
A
One
thing
I
wanted
to
and
again
I'll
get
back
to
any
other
commissioner
questions,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
I
know
we
keep
referring
to
the
south
parking
lot.
Is
that
a
sufficient
description
for
all
of
us,
specifically
the
applicant
as
to
what
that
specifically
refers
to
or
is
there
a
better
designation?
We
should
use
misdeuce.
A
C
Yes,
chair,
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment:
go
ahead.
This
is
for
the
applicant,
miss
deuce.
You
describe
the
number
of
membership
currently
580.
F
I'm
sure
we
hope
that
we
are
able
to
fill
in
the
voids
of
people
wanting
to
leave
kind
of
like
our
membership
is
capped.
Our
bylaws
do
not
allow
us
to
have
over
a
certain
number
of
numbers,
and
so
we
have
members
that
are
wanting
to
leave
and
we're
looking
to
fill
those
in
with
active
numbers.
We
do
have
some
treasuries,
we
have
some,
you
know,
members
that
have
exited
or
you
know,
surrendered
their
memberships.
We
do
have
some
open
slots,
but
we
are
capped
by
our
bylaws.
C
Great
thank
you
and
the
question
to
staff
regarding
that,
with
the
parking
analysis,
does
it
take
in
consideration
of
the
cap
of
600
persons.
C
E
The
actual
parking
study
took
into
account
the
existing
parking
supply.
That's
that's
provided
on
the
subject,
property
and
the
actual
square
footage
of
the
proposed
building
and
what
the
demand
would
be
it
didn't.
It
didn't
specifically
use
membership
as
that
to
come
up
with
the
figure
of
the
actual
demand
for
parking.
It
was
based
on
the
square
footage.
A
F
There's
been
many
conditions
about
what
we
might
do
with
the
golf
course
and
our
golf
course
project
committee
is
working
on
a
potential
full
course,
a
remodel
at
some
point
in
the
future,
and
so
yes,
if
there's
been
iterations
of
a
par
three,
there's
been
iterations
of
a
par
four
and
still
working
through
all
of
that.
So
I
it
will
change
from
what
it
is
now,
but
obviously
that's
a
leader
phase.
F
It
definitely
will
the
team
will
move
as
well
as
the
angle
that
the
the
members
hit
from
from
the
tee
box.
So
certainly
we'll
we'll
take
that
into
consideration
when
we,
when
we
do
go
change
that
hole.
G
G
So
the
condition
number
118
would
be
south
parking
lot
access
restrictions,
that
is
the
title
and
it
would
read
access
to
south
parking
lot
or
tennis.
Court
parking
lot
will
be
prohibited
for
members
and
guests
from
5
a.m
to
7
a.m.
Sunday,
through
saturday.
F
E
If
staff
can
answer
the
question
more
clearly
for
ms
commissioner
bus
regarding.
J
E
Fencing
and
the
fencing
plan
and
the
details,
please,
if
you
go
to
the
project
plans
under
the
site
plan
for
eight
under
sheet
ap
dash
1.3
a
you,
have
the
proposed
site
plan
there
enlarged
site
plan,
and
it
will.
It
will
revert
you
over
to
sheet
ap
1.4
a
which
gives
you
the
details
of
the
actual
fencing
around
the
perimeter
of
the
of
the
of
the
pool
and
the
building
and
as
these
plants
demonstrate,
it
gives
you
pylaser
with
wrought
iron
design,
no
more
than
six
feet
in
height
and
it
has
decorative
caps.
A
K
All
right
since
nobody's
gone
I'll
go
first.
I
I
think
that
this
it's
actually
the
first
time
I've
been
up
to
north
ranch
country
club.
I've
been
to
a
number
of
the
other
country.
Clubs
around
I
was
actually
surprised.
They
didn't
have
a
pool
or
these
kind
of
facilities,
so
I
do
think
it
is
something
that
is
important
for
them
and
important
for
for
the
community
itself.
I
like
the
fact
that
it's
gonna
add
jobs
to
our
community
and
and
modernize
something
of
an
institution
around
here.
C
Yes,
this
is
commissioner
cohan.
I
second
commissioner
bus.
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
an
essential
asset
to
the
north
ranch
country
club,
as
far
as
bringing
younger
members
to
the
area,
families
and
friends
of
the
area
that
will
need
this
additional
health
and
fitness
facility.
A
I
will
make
a
quick
one,
then
I
do
appreciate
the
concerns
raised
by
a
few
of
the
comments.
My
hope
is
that
the
redesign
of
the
course
will,
especially
that
hole,
will
involve
mr
grip's
concerns.
A
Noise
is
obviously
always
going
to
be
a
problem,
but
I
think
that
they're
going
out
of
their
way
to
try
to
deal
with
the
issue
as
best
they
can
and
again
within
the
confines
of
what
the
code
is
and
again
we're
not
here
to
rewrite
the
law
we're
here
to
apply
it.
So
as
much
as
I
can,
I
feel
for
her
and
again
realize
that
that's
an
issue.
A
My
hope
is
that
north
ranch
will
go
out
of
their
way
to
make
sure
that
they're
accommodating
the
issue
and
and
obviously
be
nice
to
her
in
terms
of
mitify
or
mitigating
the
noise
as
much
as
possible,
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
mr
reader
was
able
to
get
his
issue
addressed
and
north
ranch
worked
with
him.
So
with
all
of
that,
I
think
the
country
club
needs
to
evolve.
A
I
think
our
area
needs
a
a
place
where
kids
can
actually
play
and
do
various
other
things
as
part
of
a
country
club
environment.
So
with
that
I
was
being
favored
as
well.
So,
madam
secretary,
please
go
ahead
and
prepare
us
for
a
vote.
K
C
A
A
As
this
is
a
decision-making
process,
we
have
to
give
the
appeal
notice
any
agreed
party
who
wishes
to
appeal.
The
planning
commission
decision
may
do
so
by
filing
an
appeal
with
the
community
development
department
within
10
days,
and
that
is
approved
as
you're
looking
at
home.
I
told
you
this
would
look
the
exact
same
and
feel
the
same
as
any
other
meeting,
because
we're
actually
going
through
things,
even
though
it
looks
a
little
different,
we'll
go
back
to
7a.
Now,
madam
secretary,
would
you
please
open
the
public
hearing
for
7a.
O
As
lori
mentioned,
although
I'm
not
going
to
talk
too
much
specifically,
but
just
to
reiterate,
the
request
includes
the
expansion
of
a
previously
approved
food
distribution,
center,
4676
square
foot
addition
and
remodeled
to
the
existing
building,
along
with
outdoor
and
parking
lot
improvements
and
the
following
six
waivers.
O
The
site
consists
of
0.3
acres
and
is
currently
zoned
pl,
which
stands
for
public
quasi,
public
and
institutional
lands
and
facilities.
The
site
is
currently
developed
with
a
multi-story
building
and
parking
lot
and
it
is
surrounded
by
commercial
development
to
the
south.
There's
a
napa,
auto
parts
store,
there's
an
auto
resale
building
to
the
south
and
a
toyota
dealership
to
the
south
and
there's
also
residential
duplexes
to
the
west
single
family
homes
to
the
north
and
some
apartments
to
the
east.
O
O
O
O
O
One
of
the
previous
waiver
requests
was
which
was
withdrawn
and
eliminated
per
this
revision
and
then
on
january,
14
2020
revised
plans
were
submitted
again,
and
these
were
specific
to
address
concerns
from
the
public
works
department
regarding
the
public,
right-of-way
and
sidewalk
realignment
along
chiquita
lane
on
mark
march,
31st
and
april
3rd
of
2020.
Revised
plans
were
submitted
again
with
further
refinements,
at
staff's
request
to
reduce
two
additional
waivers
in
terms
of
landscaping
and
parking.
O
O
O
O
O
O
This
is
the
new
portion
of
the
addition,
and
then
this
portion
right
here
the
existing
portion
of
the
building,
would
be
used,
the
upper
floors
for
the
general
office
area
and
then
on
the
main
floor,
where
you
see
these
rectangular
boxes
down
here.
This
is
where
the
indoor
trash
enclosure
is
stored.
So
it's
a
roll
in
and
roll
out
trash
enclosure.
O
O
You
can
kind
of
see
the
what's
marked
as
the
ada
pathway,
but
it
comes
down
to
an
opening
here,
and
this
is
the
outdoor
patio.
You
can
kind
of
see
the
an
overhang
dashed
line
here.
This
is
where
patrons
would
check
in
and
then
they
go
around
to
the
building
to
the
front
of
oakview
drive
to
where
this
door
is,
and
this
is
where
they
enter
into
the
pantry
area.
O
O
These
are
the
proposed
floor
plans.
This
is
an
additional
slide,
since
what
was
sent
to
the
planning
commissioners
earlier
this
afternoon,
just
to
note
that
there
are
multiple
levels
proposed
consistent
with
the
multiple
levels
that
exist
on
site
right
now.
The
floor
plans
to
the
left
is
the
area
of
the
basement.
O
O
The
middle
portion
of
the
building,
which
is
the
main
floor,
contains
the
receiving
area,
and
then
the
pantry
is
located
down
towards
the
bottom
of
the
slide,
which
is
actually
the
northern
portion
of
the
addition,
and
this
again
is
where
the
trash
enclosure
area
is
the
upper
level
which,
in
the
pantry,
this
is
open
to
above
over
here
is
on.
The
southern
portion
of
the
property
is
where
the
office
space
is
located.
O
O
And
lastly,
these
are
two
perspective
views.
The
top
view
is
looking
down
on
the
proposed
project
in
an
aerial
view,
as
if
you
were
standing
above
the
driveway
entrance
along
chiquita
lane
the
perspective
on
the
bottom
is
is
approximately.
If
you
were
standing
at
the
intersection
of
chiquita,
lane
and
oakview
drive
looking
south
along
the
along
the
street
side,.
O
The
only
change
that's
being
requested
is
in
regards
to
the
specific
days
of
food
distribution,
which
would
be
tuesday,
wednesday
and
potentially
saturday
they
would
use
if
they
have
excessive
demands.
The
previously
approved
special
use
permit
was
for
tuesday,
wednesday
and
friday,
so
this
is
actually
done
so
that
the
hours
of
food
distribution
can
alternate
with
the
hours
of
individual
drop-off
deliveries.
O
Street,
so
the
next
slide
talks
about
street
improvements.
They
were
required
to
do
street
improvements
for
this
proposal
because
of
the
proposed
modifications
to
the
site
and
the
proposed
addition.
These
improvements
were
not
required
previously,
because
the
original
special
use
permit
only
included
them
to
go
in
to
the
existing
building
as
a
tenant
improvement.
O
So
the
proposed
project
includes
the
design
and
construction
of
street
improvements,
including
new,
curb
gutter.
Five
foot
wide
sidewalks
along
the
frontage
of
chiquita,
lane
and
oakview
drive
they're,
also
going
to
be
doing
a
five
foot
wide
dedication
along
oakview
drive
and
that's
shown
here
on
this
slide
in
blue.
O
O
O
O
So
the
only
areas
of
the
proposed
project
that
require
a
typical
amount
of
parking
would
be
for
the
825
square
foot
pantry
area,
which
is
about
the
size
of
a
four
car
garage
and
the
general
office
areas,
in
which
case
they
they
have
very
few
employees
that
would
be
working
in
the
office
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
It's
still
the
same
number
of
employees
that
was
consistent
with
the
previous
approval.
O
Mana
provided
a
parking
analysis
for
their
operations
to
determine
whether
there
was
a
sufficient
number
of
parking
spaces
and
it
was
included
in
the
packet
as
attachment
number
eight.
The
analysis
demonstrates
that
mana's
operations
are
sequenced
in
such
a
way
to
minimize
overlap
of
services,
thereby
reducing
the
number
of
spaces
required.
For
example,
individual
donation
drop-offs
occur
on
monday,
wednesday
and
fridays,
while
the
pantry
is
open
for
food
distribution
on
tuesdays,
thursdays
and
saturdays.
O
O
Therefore,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
12
by
25
foot
loading
zone
area,
which
is
intended
to
serve
the
larger
delivery
trucks,
and
it's
purposely
positioned
in
this
location,
so
that
they
can
drive
up
and
park
right
in
front
of
the
roll-up
door.
That's
what
this
this
little
rectangular
area
is
right
here.
There's
actually
can't
quite
see
it
on
the
red
line,
but
there's
a
roll-up
door
right
there
on
the
western
side
of
the
building.
O
We
did
recognize
that
the
location
of
the
loading
area
is
over
proposed
parking
stalls,
but
because
the
hours
for
these
major
deliveries
are
designed
to
occur
prior
to
the
start
of
food
distribution,
we
don't
anticipate
there
to
be
any
problems
with
overlapping
of
people
needing
to
park
there.
During
this
time.
O
O
The
city's
architectural
design
guidelines
require
that
the
architecture
design
blend
in
with
the
surrounding
area
using
muted
earth
tone,
colors,
coordinated,
building,
design
on
all
elevations
significant
wall
articulation
and
enhanced
landscape
elements.
Among
various
other
designs,
the
design
of
the
building
has
been
through
numerous
refinements
over
the
years,
even
before
a
formal
application
was
submitted,
was
submitted
to
the
city
staff
initially
expressed
concern
over
the
original
design,
which
was
more
matching
of
the
original
architecture
of
the
building,
with
the
beige
and
or
the
beijish
yellow
colors
and
the
red
colors
that
exist
there
today.
O
Their
initial
proposal
also
had
a
couple
different
architectural
styles.
There
was
some
gothic
style
to
in
keeping
with
the
original
portion
of
the
building,
and
then
there
was
also
another
portion
that
was
more
contemporary
in
design,
which
was
the
middle
portion,
so
staff
recommended
that
the
applicant
revise
the
architecture
so
that
it
was
a
bit
more
harmonious.
O
The
current
design
includes
the
use
of
the
earth
tone
colors
that
are
required
instead
of
the
concrete
exterior,
which
was
originally
proposed
for
the
the
middle
portion
of
this
building.
They're
proposing
to
put
hardy
plank
siding
onto
the
concrete
to
match
the
existing
portion
of
the
building
that
exists
here
on
the
southern
portion.
O
O
O
O
In
this
proposal,
the
applicant
is
proposing
landscaping
on
all
sides
of
the
building.
The
landscaping
at
the
intersection
up
here
when
it
grows
up
into
the
green
screen,
will
will
provide
a
nice
element
to
kind
of
help.
The
building
and
the
improvements
blend
in
with
the
area,
and
then
the
addition
of
these
planters
within
the
parking
area
is
a
code
requirement
that
there
be
at
least
10
percent
of
landscaping
within
the
parking
lot
provided.
O
Also
want
to
note
that,
due
to
some
of
the
changes,
specifically
these
in
the
parking
lot,
which
was
done
fairly
recently,
the
landscaping
plan
that
was
provided
as
part
of
the
plans
is
a
bit
outdated.
Now,
so
staff
has
included
several
conditions
of
approval
to
ensure
that
those
landscaping
plans
be
revised
so
that
they
match
the
current
design
and
the
applicant
will
also
be
required
to
submit
a
landscape
plan
check
plan.
O
O
O
That
is,
though,
with
taking
into
account
the
dedication,
so
it
would
be
a
little
bit
less
of
a
percentage
if
we
did
not
count
the
dedication.
O
The
third
waiver
request
regards
the
code
requirement
that
walls
be
installed
when
they
abut
residential
zones
following
the
final
cement.
The
final
plan
submittal
for
this
project
and
the
staff
reports
going
out
the
applicant
has
made
us
aware
that
they
are
willing
to
replace
the
existing
wood
fence.
That's
located
along
a
portion
of
the
abutting
residential
property,
and
they
would
like
to
construct
the
six
foot
high
solid
wall,
as
required
for
as
required
to
meet
the
code
requirement.
O
O
O
So
in
this
particular
slide,
this
is
approximately
where
the
20-foot
area
is
located
within
20
feet
from
chiquita
lane
and
then
also
20
feet
from
oakview
drive.
In
this
particular
case,
the
existing
building
is
actually
legal.
Non-Conforming
such
that
you,
you
can't
comply
with
this
requirement
along
oakview
drive
because
the
building
encroaches
within
20
feet,
they're
also
proposing
to
keep
the
landscaping
that
exists
on
site
today
in
these
planners
and
then
in
this
area,
along
chiquita,
lane
they're
proposing
to
have
the
addition
less
than
20
feet
from
chiquita
lane.
O
So
without
reducing
the
proposed
addition
and
reducing
even
a
portion
of
the
existing
building,
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
meet
this
requirement,
but
it
was
their
intent
to
add
landscape
planters
along
the
interior
portion
of
the
patio
area
that
can
grow
up
and
then
grow
into
the
green
screen.
And
so
you
can
still
have
that
sort
of
look
as
if
there.
If
there
is
landscaping
when
you
are
looking
at
this
site
from
the
public
right-of-way.
O
O
That
is
the
request
that
they
are
asking
for
is
to
build
these
walls,
not
ten
feet
from
the
property
line,
but
directly
on
the
property
line.
These
walls
also
in
some
instances,
are
taller
than
six
feet,
but
that's
because
they
are
measured
from
the
inside
of
the
patio
which
is
below
grade
so
in
the
retaining
walls
in
the
patio
are
generally
three
to
three
and
a
half
feet
in
height.
O
The
last
waiver
request
has
to
do
with
parking
stall
dimensions.
There
are
currently
17
parking
stalls
located
on
site.
All
of
them
are
legal
non-conforming
in
terms
of
length
and
width.
For
many
reasons,
and
in
many
different
locations,
two
of
the
parking
stalls
on
site
are
actually
located
within
the
city's
public,
right-of-way
and
they're
about
half
the
length
of
what
you
would
need
for
a
parking
stall.
O
You
could
maybe
fit
a
golf
cart
or
a
mini
cooper
in
them,
so
those
two
parking
spaces
automatically
had
to
be
removed
in
order
to
construct
the
driveway
entrance
and
install
the
5-foot
sidewalk
as
required
for
street
improvements,
and
then,
when
the
addition
of
the
handicap
space
was
included.
This
also
required
the
area
down
here,
the
additional
area
that
you
need
to
get
out
of
the
car.
O
The
1000x
municipal
code,
though,
requires
that
compact
stalls
be
at
least
11
feet.
4
inches
wide
by
17
feet,
deep
for
45
degree,
angle,
stalls
which
are
what
are
proposed
in
order
to
well.
First,
they
are
currently
proposing
nine
by
18
parking
stalls
which,
for
most
codes
are
fairly
standard
parking
stall
sizes.
O
The
11
foot
14
by
17
is
fairly
onerous
compared
to
many
other
cities
and
counties
codes,
but
because,
because
the
code
also
allows
for
the
city
to
approve
modification
to
the
parking
space
provisions,
staff
does
feel
that
the
improvements
that
the
applicant
has
made
to
the
existing
parking
lot
would
be
sufficient.
O
One
other
thing
to
note
that,
as
part
of
this
design,
they
are
proposing
double
striped
parking
stalls
with
don't
which
don't
currently
exist
on
site,
as
it
is
so
in
order
to
meet
the
street
improvements
improve
the
handicapped
access
which
was
required.
They
are
providing
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
they
can
possibly
park
on
site.
O
The
project
is
categorically
exempt
per
section,
15
301
existing
facilities,
because
it
involves
an
addition:
that's
less
than
10
000
square
feet.
It's
also
located
in
an
area
where
all
public
services
and
facilities
are
available
and
is
not
located
in
an
environmentally
sensitive
area,
and
none
of
these
six
exceptions
exceptions
to
the
use
of
a
categorical
exemption
apply.
O
The
required
findings
for
the
project
include
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
city's
general
plan.
The
food
distribution
use
and
proposed
improvements
are
allowed
uses
within
the
pl
zone
and
is
consistent
with
all
provisions
of
the
code.
With
the
exception
of
the
proposed
waivers
with
the
inclusion
of
several
recommended
conditions
that
staff
has
included
in
the
resolution,
the
project
will
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public
health,
safety
or
general
welfare.
O
A
All
right,
thank
you,
miss
rice
for
that
detailed
report.
Commissioners,
questions
of
staff.
D
Okay
and
along
the
same
lines
regarding
the
setback
waiver,
was
there
any
discussion
or
consideration
of
reducing
square
footage
to
not
not
to
need
a
waiver
on
september.
O
We
did
have
discussions
regarding
that
particular
waiver
in
order
to
support
the
needs
that
mana
expressed
to
us.
They
needed
the
that
particular
amount
of
warehousing
square
footage.
Also
the
square
footage
for
the
pantry,
so
part
of
that
waiver
request
was:
do
you
reduce
the
building
or
not?
You
would
also
actually
have
to
eliminate
the
outdoor
patio
area
in
order
to
meet
that
requirement,
which
was
actually
probably
the
the
more
crucial
aspect
of
mana's
operations.
D
O
There
is
cut
anticipated
for
the
raised
path.
It's
for
the
basement,
it's
located
in
an
area
where
it's
slightly
above
the
parking
lot
area.
So
there
is,
there
is
area
there
that
would
need
to
be
cut
into
for
the
construction
of
the
basement.
D
Do
we
know
approximately
how
much
cotter
fill
we're
talking
about.
O
The
grading
plan,
although
one
of
part
of
the
reason
for
that
condition,
is
so
that
they
bring
this
grading
plan.
A
little
bit
more
into
conformance
is
that
they
indicate
the
cut,
is
396
cubic
yards.
D
Okay,
so
it's
it's
20
something
truck
trips,
okay
and
the
neighborhood
is
seems
to
me
to
be
a
pretty
crowded
in
terms
of
parking
people.
Cars
parked
how
feasible
would
it
be
to
amend
the
part
the
parking
requirements.
O
I
would,
I
would
think
so.
I
would
think
that
they
would
be
able
to
park
in
the
parking
lot
area
focus
construction
where
the
building
edition
is
initially
so
that
they
can
park
those
vehicles
in
the
parking
lot.
D
Okay
and
of
course,
when
we
go
to
the
applicant,
we
would
need
to
get
their
sign
off
on
that
anyway,
but
I
do
I
do
think
that
would
help
reduce
the
the
footprint
of
the
project
or
at
least
constrain
it
within
the
boundaries
of
the
project.
Correct.
D
The
only
other
question
I
had
is
is
the
very
last
attachment
this
is
attachment
nine
regarding
the
undergrounding
waiver-
and
I
think
I
I
I
just
I
don't
understand
one
part
of
it
when
and
you're,
describing
the
the
nature
of
the
project.
There's
some
text
about
this
being
about
cellular
phone
facilities
on
an
existing
water
tower
was
that
just
something
that
was
copy
and
pasted
from
a
previous
project
or
or
cellular
towers.
Part
of
this.
D
O
It's
drafted
and
would
and
has
not
been
filed
currently,
so
the
the
nature
of
the
project
would
be
the
exact
project's
description,
as
shown
on
your
staff
report,
so
staff.
Okay,
sorry.
D
I
This
is
commissioner
mcmahon,
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
appropriate
for
you
or
if
I
should
save
it
for
the
applicant,
but
I'll
go
with
you.
First,
I'm
concerned
about
the
deliveries,
the
major
deliveries,
how
big
a
truck
makes
those
deliveries.
I
Okay,
then,
I
will
hold
off
on
my
questions
until
later.
Thank
you.
C
O
K
Got
one
question
I
was
having
trouble
following
when
we
were
talking
about
how
many
parking
spaces
would
be
required
and
why
they
were
if
we
were
waving
it
down
to
14.
But
I
was
wondering
what
the
the
established
number
of
parking
spaces
that
we
would
anticipate
them
needing
would
be.
O
O
A
A
O
A
It's
just
we
at
least
leave
that
condition
as
part
of
that.
In
the
event
we
go
through
with
that
correct
and
and
I'm
going
to
basically
follow
my
other
commissioners
with
regard
to
the
delivery
issue,
there's
there's
some
situations
in
which
we
will
provide
that
deliveries
can
only
happen
certain
times
of
the
day.
I
don't
know
this
kind
of
business
and
we'll
find
out
in
a
second
if
that's
feasible,
but
one
thing
you'd
said
is
the
loading
dock
is
actually
going
to
be
where
parking
spaces
are.
A
A
Okay,
we
will
now
go
to
the
applicant,
we'll
have
15
minutes.
I
believe
it's
mark
pettit,
please
state
your
name
and
city
of
residence.
H
P
Thank
you.
We
have
one
of
our
speakers
that
has
been
looking
at
the
white
screen
waiting
to
be
invited
in
it's
john
prescott.
So
if
you
could
let
somebody
know
that
he
just
needs
to
be
invited.
He's
been
texting
me
stating
that
he's
still
waiting
to
be
invited
there.
He
goes
right
there.
Thank
you.
P
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight
and
it
right
now,
especially
in
these
unprecedented
times.
Mana
has
just
really
seen
what
what
things,
how
things
can
impact
our
community,
so
this
project
is
really
important
to
the
community
we've
been
around
since
1971,
and
we've
gone
through
multiple
times
in
history,
where
we
had
economic
problems,
but
our
the
construct
of
our
community
has
changed
and
we
are
seeing
that
people
are
living
now
closer
to
food
crisis
than
ever
before.
P
One
paycheck
gone
so
we're
we're
seeing
just
in
the
last
30
days
a
number,
that's
almost
as
a
half
of
what
we
did
an
entire
year.
The
project
right
now.
The
way
it's
designed
in
in
kristen
has
been
great
to
work
with.
P
She
is
our
fourth
planner,
and
so,
along
the
way
we've
been
having,
we've
had
four
pre-planning
meetings
and
we've
gone
into
it
with
the
attitude
of
being
a
partner
with
the
city
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
are
supportive
of
their
vision
and
that
we
also
are
looking
for
practicality,
moreover
than
design
or
even
cost.
For
that
matter,
the
mission
is
to
serve
the
people,
and
so
this
design
after
trying
to
put
a
rubik's
cube
together
on
a
small
lot.
P
I
really
do
feel
like
we
have
done
everything
we
can
to
get
as
close
as
we
can
to
meeting
every
single
requirement
that
the
city
is
asked.
P
So
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
there
are
a
lot
of
waivers
for
for
this
project
and
we
have
put
a
lot
of
great
minds
together
to
try
to
try
to
get
rid
of
those
waivers,
but
I
think
that
we
are
open-minded
to
doing
whatever
it's
going
to
take
to
to
get
this
open
sooner
rather
than
later.
P
I
would
also
just
before
mark
takes
over
I'd
like
to
give
john
prescott
just
a
couple
minutes
to
add
something
from
his
perspective.
L
Yes,
I
am
john
prescott
thousand
oaks
and
I'm
here
to
support
manna
in
their
application.
I've
been
familiar
with
the
work
of
mana
and
the
location
that
they've
been
in
over
on
on
crescent
way,
for
almost
four
more
than
four
decades.
Now
they
perform
a
wonderful
service
for
the
community,
and
now
they
are
at
a
position
where
they're
able
to
really
expand
that
service
to
match
the
growth
of
the
city
and
the
growth
of
the
need
that
they
serve.
L
This
time
the
city's
always
had
a
philosophy
of
not
providing
social
services
directly,
but
rather
to
support
local
organizations.
Nonprofits
specifically
that
do
provide
those
services
to
our
community,
and
there
are
many
examples
here
in
thousand
oaks
and-
and
I
think
the
way
the
city
has
worked
with
man
over
the
years
is
one
of
those
good
examples.
They
have
found
a
site.
I
think
it's
a
good
location
for
the
use.
L
I
think
they've
done
a
nice
job
of
of
trying
to
meet
their
needs,
be
respectful
of
the
neighborhood,
improve
the
property
actually
to
some
degree.
It's
an
older
property
they'll
be
bringing
some
new
architecture,
some
upgrades
to
the
parking
to
the
landscaping,
the
public
street
improvements
will
all
benefit
the
neighborhood
and
I
think,
as
you've
heard
from
your
staff,
the
waivers
that
they
are
recommending
are,
for
the
most
part,
very
reasonable,
and
they
have
agreed
to
build
the
wall
as
as
recommended
by
staffs.
A
Thank
you,
mr
prescott,
nice
to
see
you
again.
Mr
pettit,
did
you
want
to
finish
up
your
pro
your
presentation.
H
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
As
was
probably
mentioned,
you
know
that
it's
a
fairly
complex
program
that
we've
got
using
the
existing
building
and
significantly
modifying
the
use
of
the
old
church.
This
is
an
adaptive
reuse.
Our
building
is
going
to
be
energy
efficient.
It's
going
to
be
a
green
building,
incorporating
solar
panels
so
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
kind
of
do
effective
adaptive,
reuse.
H
The
building
has
a
lot
of
uses.
It
has
the
food
pantry,
it
has
a
food
intake
and
sorting
areas,
has
food
storage
areas
and
other
operational
functions,
and
currently
virtually
all
of
that
happens
outside
at
their
current
operation
over
on
crescent.
So
it's
really
important
to
know
also
that
we,
although
we
haven't
increased
square
footage,
we
have
a
basement
level,
so
everything
is
still
single
story
and
the
building
actually
has
four
different
levels
to
it.
It's
pretty
complex
and
each
one
of
those
levels
have
a
important
function.
H
I
also
wanted
to
mention
that
we
have
our
trash
inside
the
building
and
that's
to
free
up
additional
parking
spaces,
but
also
the
trash
is
not
typical.
What
you
would
see
with
trash
we
recycle
and
reuse
and
even
the
product
that's
out
of
date,
has
is
earmarked
for
other
uses
that
people
come
and
pick
up.
So
that's
pretty
important
and
different
than
a
lot
of
other
businesses.
H
Obviously,
since
our
pantry
is
relatively
small,
that
that
area
is
for
people
to
kind
of
wait,
hang
out,
so
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
family
members
come
in
and
I
did
want
to
mention
that
when
people
come
in,
they
come
in
by
appointment
and
so
there's
a
there's,
a
regularity
of
it.
So
it's
not
okay,
we're
open!
You
have
100
people
that
doesn't
happen.
H
The
other
big
thing
on
this
building
and
on
the
site
was
to
be
ada
compliant.
Currently,
nothing
is
ada
compliant,
including
the
parking
lot
and
the
building.
So
the
parking
was
really
interesting
on
how
we
were
able
to
get
that.
So
it's
no
more
than
two
percent
crossfall,
and
that
demonstrated
and
dictated
really
how
we
had
the
entrance
and
the
entrance
patio
and
access
into
the
building
and
that's
why
it's
set
down
at
a
lower
level.
H
So
the
other
thing
about
the
patio
areas
we
have
the
green
screen,
so
it's
not
a
wall.
It's
it's
something
that
eventually
will
be
planted
through
we're
looking
at
a
certain
vegetation
that,
within
six
months
to
a
year,
should
be
able
to
include
cover
that
entire
wall
area
with
a
green
wall
which
hopefully
will
look
great
and
the
sidewalk
on
the
side.
There
was
question
about
the
sidewalk.
The
sidewalk
would
be
new,
but
it
connects
to
an
existing
sidewalk
on
oakview,
which
goes
down
to
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
H
H
So,
as
far
as
the
parking
is
concerned,
typical
parking
in
most
cities
is
9
foot
by
18
and
that's
what
we
have
here
with
the
one
way
it
works
pretty
well
and
it's
way
the
parking
lot
has
been
for
decades
and
decades
and
decades,
so
we're
just
cleaning
it
up,
restriping
it
and
having
multi-function
uses
such
as
the
drop-off
for
the
deliveries.
Now
the
deliveries
don't
come
in
semi-tractor
trailers
or
anything
like
that.
H
Mana
goes
and
picks
it
up
with
their
relatively
small
vans
and
trucks,
and
that's
what's
going
to
be
there
and
there
will
be
a
sign
certain
times
for
deliveries
that
will
be
on
the
building
wall
in
front
of
those
parking
areas
that
would
be
used
for
the
loading
and
unloading
also
important
to
know
that
a
lot
of
community
members
come
in
and
drop
off
a
bag
or
or
boxes
of
food,
and
so
they
can
do
that.
H
So
we've
modified
the
materials
to
be
a
little
bit
more
consistent
with
what's
in
the
neighborhood,
our
roof
pitches,
the
materials
on
the
roof
and
everything
is
approximately
20
feet
tall
very
consistent
and
remember.
We
opted
to
lower
and
put
a
basement
level,
so
we
would
not
be
massive.
H
We
would
be
in
the
context
and
scale
of
the
neighbors
and,
as
mentioned,
we'll
replace
the
the
fence
with
a
block
wall
to
meet
city
requirements,
and
like
was
mentioned,
our
goal
is
to
improve
the
property
and
have
it
be
an
asset
community
to
the
community,
and
this,
as
you
can
imagine,
is
a
multi-million
dollar
project
and
long
overdue.
So,
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
A
Okay,
we
will
go
then
to
commissioner
questions.
Any
questions
of
the
applicant.
I
I
guess
I
will
start
it
off
for
clarification
of
your
deliveries,
so
there
are
mana
volunteers
and
mana
vans.
Making
those
big
pickup
deliveries
is
that
correct.
P
Yeah
we
have
when
it
comes
to
going
and
picking
food
up.
We
have
a
box
truck,
that's
about
16
feet
and
we
also
have
a
minivan
that
was
donated
to
us,
and
those
two
vehicles
are
the
bulk
of
how
we
round
food
up.
We
don't
have
any
interest
or
desire
to
have
any
more
vehicles
or
even
increase
the
size
of
them,
because
those
sizes
actually
work
very
well
for
navigating
to
all
of
the
different
retail
partners
that
we
have
so
those
those
vehicles
are
great
for
their
size
and
we
need
to
offload
them
immediately.
I
I
P
Absolutely
and
it
is
narrow
because
of
the
overgrown
shrubbery-
that's
there
now
that
is,
we
are
intending
to
cut
back
and
there
is
a
gas
meter
down
there,
which
is
not
ideally
located
in
a
driveway,
but
that's
an
existing
condition
that
we
shouldn't
see
by
the
time
we're
finished.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
is
the
applicant
comfortable
with
the
modification
of
the
parking
condition
I
suggested
earlier,
where
we
would
require
construction
vehicles
to
be
parked
on
site
during
the
project?
Is
that
is
that
amenable
to
you.
P
It
is,
I
believe,
that,
throughout
the
different
phases
of
construction
that
there's
going
to
be
different
opportunities,
where
we
can
put
all
of
the
vehicles
on
the
property,
there
may
be
a
time
frame
when,
during
certain
phases
that
that
is
not
entirely
possible.
But
in
reality
were
our
goal
from
day.
One
was
to
be
100
self-contained
within
our
property
line.
D
All
right,
the
other
question
I
have
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
this
project,
but
you
mentioned
this
being
the
time
of
extraordinary
crisis
in
the
community
and
and
extraordinary
demands
for
mana.
So
my
question
to
you
is:
what
can
members
of
the
general
public
do
to
assist
mana
during
this
difficult
period?.
P
Well,
I
think
that
partnering
and
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
be
a
resource
that
the
city
refers
out.
Unless
people
know
that
they
can
do
food
deliveries,
you
can
order
your
groceries
to
be
delivered
to
us
and
send
it
to
your
house.
Those
are
individuals
we
have.
In
the
last
month,
we've
received
approximately
95
000
in
personal
donations.
P
That
helps
because,
as
we
start
to
see
that
the
pantry
changes,
the
types
of
food
that
are
available,
we
can
go
and
purchase
food
from
our
retail
partners,
and
that
is,
is
in
an
effort
to
continue
to
deliver
fresh
and
edible
and
and
good,
nutritious
food
to
people
and
not
just
canned
foods
and
frozen
foods.
So
the
the
monetary
donations,
especially
when
we
have
a
large
contingency,
are
it's
wonderful,
because
we
do
have
the
sources
to
get
fresh
produce
and
perishable
items
in
and
out
quickly.
C
H
Sure
that'd
be
great
right
now
we're
looking
at
somewhere
between
10
in
14
months,
depending
on
the
time
of
the
year,
and
if
we
have
weather
delays
and
the
contractors
we're
talking
to
right
now
have
some
ways
that
they
could
potentially
move
that
quicker.
Obviously
time
is
of
the
essence,
so
we'd
like
to
get
this
thing
permitted
and
ready
to
start
as
quickly
as
we
can,
but
that's
generally,
what
we're
talking
about
between
10
and
14
months.
P
Darin
we
are
intending
to
operate
on
the
crescent
way
property
until
we
actually
move
in.
So
we
will
have
our
executive
director
site
managers
and
our
volunteer
partners
working
as
until
they're
worn
out
they're.
They
are
really
truly
heroes
and
they're
working
hard,
and
they
will
continue
to
do
that
until
we
can
start
moving
stuff
in
over
on
on
oakview.
A
First,
with
regard
to
the
overhead
electrical
wires.
Is
that,
ultimately,
the
construction
going
to
require
that
you
modify
that
to
the
extent
that
you
need
additional
electrical
needs.
H
A
Okay
and
then,
second
with
regard
to
the
six-foot
wall,
are
you
acceptable
now,
as
was
indicated
by
race,
indicate
you're
acceptable
having
that
six-foot
wall.
P
Mark
can
I
take
that
real
quick
go
for
it.
So
right
now,
there's
a
wood
fence.
That's
held
up
by
metal,
cemented
poles
that
actually
faces
the
residential
neighbor
to
the
west.
So
we
actually
don't
have
a
wall
that
we're
replacing
and
the
idea
of
having
a
nice
concrete
wall
is
appealing
and
we
like
the
idea.
P
Kristen
brought
it
up
after
it
made
its
rounds
through
the
city
and
the
proposal
is
totally
acceptable
to
us
and
it,
and
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
A
Great,
I
have
no
further
questions
any
other
commissioner
questions
not
hearing
any.
We
will
now
go
to
the
public
comment
with
regard
to
this
matter.
We
had
over
10
cards
or
requests
to
speak
submitted,
therefore,
and
all
will
be
participating
by
video
conference.
So
each
speaker
will
have
four
minutes.
A
J
J
Oh
okay,
I'm
watching
the
the
live
feed
and
it's
behind
yeah,
I'm
chase
rashid
city
of
thousand
oaks,
I'm
supportive
of
this
project.
I
actually
live
close
to
the
new
side
of
mana.
There's
a
lot
of
the
clients
that
live
over
in
this
area.
So
parking
may
not
be
an
issue.
If
people
live
over
in
this
area,
they.
M
J
Just
walk
there.
I've
been
a
client
of
mana.
I
see
the
clientele,
it's
families
seniors.
Really.
People
in
need
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
they
get
done
paying
their
rent
bills.
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
money
left
over
for
food.
I
realize
there
is
concern
in
the
area
of
the
neighbors
about
exactly
who
the
clientele
is,
but
I
you
know
I
would
tell
people
to
rest
assured
that
these
are
regular
people.
J
They
have
the
same
concerns
that
other
people
would
have
in
the
neighborhood,
whether
they
be
homeowners
or
apartment
dwellers.
So
I'm
supportive
of
the
project
so
and
I
think
it's
good
for
the
area.
Thank
you.
A
P
A
Miss
douglas,
oh,
I
was
told
she's
not
on
the
line
anymore
either.
Marcia
gordon
also
not
with
us
patrick
finnery,
fenerty.
A
F
I
Great
I've
worked
at
ma,
I'm
an
agora
resident
and
I've
worked
at
or
volunteered
at
mana
since
2007
on
a
weekly
basis,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
their
clients,
and
I
found
them
very
appreciative
very
grateful
and
the
people,
people
that
I'm
grateful
to
be
able
to
serve,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
how
much
I
support
this.
This
whole
effort
to
move
to
a
better
space,
and
I
think,
it'll
be
better
for
experience
for
our
clients.
I
I
think
the
employees
it'll
be
easier
for
them,
of
course,
and
better
for
the
volunteers
too.
So
it's
just
a
situation
that
helps
our
community
better
serve
in
a
more
efficient
way.
So
thank
you.
M
My
name
is
robert
inkstad
and
I've
been
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks
for
the
past
12
years
and
a
resident
of
ventura
county
for
the
past
16..
My
background
is
in
real
estate
supply
chain
management,
and
that
also
involves
warehouse
and
distribution
center
layout.
I
have
been
involved
in
consulting
with
mana
facility
blueprint
ideas
and
for
the
record,
please
note
I've
been
doing
this
on
a
voluntary
basis.
M
As
we
look
back
at
manna's
current
location,
it
fought
with
inefficiencies,
they
have
been
operating
their
best
with
the
space
they
have
and
are
especially
constrained
by
the
unpredictable
peaks
and
valleys
of
food
donations.
It
is
also
challenging
for
the
general
public
to
visit
their
current
facility
that
parking
is
limited.
Street
parking
is
frequent
and
the
space
inside
the
pantry
is
very
small.
The
land
they're
at
now
is
best
used
for
residential.
M
We
move
forward
to
the
proposed
oakview
drive,
location
and
the
revised
blueprints,
and
that
will
change
all
of
this.
The
land
on
oakview
drive
has
not
been
a
residential
plot
for
many
decades,
making
it
more
conducive
to
becoming
managed
pantry
and
again,
the
best
use
of
land
space,
mana's
handling
capacity
will
be
significantly
higher.
Their
service
to
the
community
will
be
significantly
greater
and
to
all
of
our
thousand
oaks
residents
and
kenejo
valley
residents.
M
I
very
much
believe
that
mana
of
the
caneho
will
become
one
of
the
flagship
pantries
in
our
country
that
other
cities
and
states
will
want
to
learn
from
I'd,
say
this,
because
most
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
fame.
Our
hill
canyon
wastewater
treatment
plant
has
gained
many.
Other
municipalities
in
the
country
have
visited
the
hill
canyon
facility
to
learn
from
the
bath.
M
Likewise,
future
food
pantry
organizations
across
the
country
will
travel
to
visit
and
tour
mana
of
the
canejo's
new
facility
thousand
oaks
will
have
yet
another
facility
to
be
proud
of
something
that
is
cutting
edge,
something
that
is
amazingly
efficient.
It
is
the
possibility
this
possibility.
That
makes
me
the
most
excited
about
what
is
yet
to
come
to
our
city.
I
stand
or
I
guess
in
these
moments
of
time
I
sit
in
support
of
approving
the
blueprints,
has
revised
and
drafted.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
sitting
in
support
that
was
great
and
last
terry
marler.
A
A
Q
Yes,
I
live
around
the
corner
from
proposed
facility
and
I
think
it's
important
to
recall
that
the
original
zoning
change
was
premised
upon
the
use
of
an
existing
facility.
A
Can
you
possibly
turn
down
the
youtube
or
whatever
other
thing,
you're
listening
on.
Q
Q
Very
good,
so
the
original
zone
change
was
predicated
upon
a
use,
the
use
of
an
existing
facility.
That
was
not
only
in
the
2016
staff
report,
but
also
in
the.
Q
G
Yes,
if
I
may
well
you're
looking
if
you
have
any
more
further
comments,
there's
a
a
few
comments
regarding
from
from
the
commissioners
regarding
some
conditions
that
I
think
we
need
to
flush
out
a
little
bit
more
to
make
sure
we
have
clarity
with
not
only
with
the
commissioners
before
they
make
a
decision
on
this
project,
but
also
with
the
applicant
as
well.
G
One
of
the
commissioners
mentioned
construction,
but
before
I
get
to
that
one,
I
do
want
to
talk
about
condition
number
38,
which
I
think
chair
you
mentioned
regarding
whether
there's
a
condition
regarding
markings
or
signage
of
some
kind
and
condition
number
38
does.
Excuse
me
for
a
second
when
I
toggle
over
here,
so
condition,
number
30
does
talk
about
the
loading
area
and
it
does
provide
for
appropriate
signage.
G
I
think
my
recommendation
would
be
to
keep
it
as
is
right
there.
I
think,
if
you
try
to
add
markings,
it
would
create
more
confusion.
I
think
when
we
use
the
word
appropriate,
I
think
they
have
this
timing.
As
the
applicant
made
a
comment
about
is
there's
a
timing
for
when
deliveries
are
made
versus
when
the
pantry
is
open.
So
I
think,
with
appropriate
signage,
I
think
we're
covering
the
concern
about
the
loading
area.
G
The
next
one
is
two
parts
it
has
to
do
with
the
construction,
and
the
commissioner
made
a
comment
about,
and
it's
it's
one
of
the
more
typical
ones
we
have
when
we
have
a
big
construction
project
knowing
parking
in
the
neighborhood,
it
might
be
an
issue
and
we
do
have
condition
number
eight,
which
talks
about
construction
hours
and
that's
the
standard.
One
saying
it's,
seven
to
seven
construction
workers
and
vehicles
are
not
to
be
permitted
to
congregate
in
the
neighborhood
or
on
site
before
after
the
construction
hours.
G
But
then
we
have
that
the
standard
in
which
we
we
try
to
phase
it.
So
all
the
construction
vehicles
are
parked
on
site
and
I'm
not
sure
I
heard
applicant
clearly
on
his
comment,
but
it's
concerning
because
I
think
he
made
a
comment.
He
would
do
his
best
efforts,
reasonable
efforts
to
to
make
that
happen,
and-
and
I
certainly
appreciate
that
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
create
a
condition.
That's
a
shall
versus
a
best
practices
if
possible,
what's
reasonable.
G
So
typically,
we
have
a
condition,
and
if
we
were
to
approve
this
project-
and
you
were
to
approve
this
condition,
it
would
read
something
to
the
effect
of
during
any
and
all
construction
phases
phases
of
this
project.
All
construction
vehicles,
including
all
contractor
and
subcontractor
employee
vehicles,
are
to
be
parked
on
applicants
property.
G
Now,
when
I
heard
the
applicant
make
a
comment
after
commissioner
newman's
request,
he
made
a
comment.
I
believe
that
it's
not
necessarily
always
going
to
be
possible.
That
can
happen
so
either
we
shouldn't
have
the
condition
because
it
makes
it
as
mandatory,
which
I'm
not
sure
that
can
the
applicant
can
agree
to,
or
we
could
possibly
say
in
addition
to
that
statement
I
just
made
if,
during
a
construct,
the
construction
phase,
construction
vehicles
cannot
reasonably
be
parked
on
applicants.
G
G
What
I
think
everyone's
trying
to
do
is
avoid
impacting
the
neighborhood
with
construction
vehicles
for
a
project,
and
I
think
the
goal
is
to
keep
most
of
the,
if
not
all,
of
the
parking
for
construction
on
site
but,
as
he
said,
when
you
have
a
tractor
or
you
have
something
that's
going
to
be
a
larger
vehicle
for
a
certain
phase,
you
might
have
this
difficulty
of
having
all
the
contractors
parked
there
again.
That
leaves
it
open.
It's
not!
G
You
know
I'm
trying
to
write
this
as
we
go,
but
trying
to
think
of
not
having
it,
so
it
gives
them
an
option
actually
to
if
they
can't
do
it,
then
they're
going
to
talk
to
us
about
what
an
alternative
plan
would
be
that
cdd
could
actually
use
and
discuss
with
them.
So
it's
open
dialogue
about
how
do
we
solve
a
problem?
G
If,
if
staff
has
other
concepts
for
this
kind
of
condition,
we
certainly
like
to
hear
about
it,
but
I
think
we
need
to
address
that
before
we
get
any
further.
With
closing
this
hearing,
I
agreed.
O
Yes,
we
have
a
couple
comments
in
response
to
mr
finnerty's
comments.
The
first
one
is
that
he
had
some
concerns
that
if
the
existing
mana
operation
currently
is
contained
within
700
square
feet
and
the
new
operation
is
proposed
at
approximately
7
000
square
feet,
he
doesn't
understand
how
the
operations
of
mana
would
not
change.
O
The
second
point
that
he
made
was
concerned
that
the
use
was
overly
intense
and
in
working
with
mana
over
several
years.
One
of
the
main
goals
was
to
keep
everything
inside
the
building
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
mana
has
right
now
and
a
lot
of
the
code
enforcement
complaints
that
the
city
has
received
is
because
their
use
spills
out
outside
of
the
building
into
other
portions
of
the
property
that
are
visible
or
cause
impacts
to
other
neighboring
properties.
H
I
think
I'll
handle
that
as
far
as
the
parking,
it's
very
common
to
have
sites
where
the
building
occupies
even
100
percent
of
the
site
and
contractors
have
a
parking
management
plan
when
they
can't
park
on
the
site,
and
we
would
expect
the
exact
same
thing
here.
I
would
imagine
with
lay
down
area
and
a
job
site
trailer,
there
probably
will
be
very
little
on-site
parking
for
contractors,
so
it'll
be
a
requirement
that
they
have
an
off-site
parking
plan.
We'd
be
happy
to
share
that
with
the
city.
H
P
Certainly
we
I
don't
think
that
there
was
any
direct
door-to-door
knocking
going
on.
Mana
has
been
very
vocal
in
the
community
about
its
intent
throughout
this
process,
but
to
mr
finnerty's
point,
we
did
not
walk
around
door
to
door
to
get
any
type
of
feedback
from
any
of
the
people
that
were
there
or
assure
them
that
you
know
what
we
were
planning
on
was
going
to
ask
them
or
tell
them
what
our
plans
were.
So
to
his
point.
He
is
correct,
but
we
are
very
transparent
and
open.
P
Food
safety
is
a
huge
concern
for
us,
so
everything
that
we
can
that
can
be
stored
outside
is
and
everything
that
isn't
has
to
be
handled
in
a
different
way,
but
absolutely
100
percent.
We
are
not
going
to
a
10
times
the
facility.
We
are
definitely
trying
to
bring
it
all
in
and
keep
our
food
safety
upmost
concerned.
P
P
We
do
intake
qualifying.
We
make
sure
that
the
people
coming
in
are
are
not
abusive
to
the
system,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
serving
people
that
are
in
our
community,
and
I
do
believe
that
when
you
look
at
the
efficiencies
that
we've
built
in
in
terms
of
our
scheduling
and
when
things
can
happen,
whether
they
are
food
coming
in
or
food
going
out,
it
is
not
chaos.
P
It
is
very
well
organized
on
a
day
by
day
and
an
hour
by
hour
basis,
and
we
are
trying
to
add
dignity
to
this
process,
which
is
not
very
dignified
in
our
current
location.
P
You
know
as
it's
designed,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
we
are
not
creating
a
more
intensive
use
than
we
have
where
we're
at.
A
Thank
you,
mr
here.
Yes,.
G
I
just
want
to
make
sure
for
the
applicant
and
for
commissioners
if
they
are
moving
to
approve
this.
The
condition
that
I
believe
commissioner
newman
was
was
alluding
to
I'm
gonna
try
to
make
this
up
as
I
go
along
here,
but
the
condition
would
read
as
follows.
During
any
and
all
construction
phases
of
the
project,
all
construction
vehicles,
including
all
contractors
and
subcontractor
employee
vehicles,
are
to
be
parked
on
applicants
property.
K
G
Unfortunately,
I
mean
I
know
the
project
that
you're
referring
to.
I
I
just
couldn't
tell
you
right
now:
if
we
have
that
condition
on
there
or
not
well,.
K
The
reason
I'm
asking
is
because
you
know,
as
a
general
thumb
we're
not
trying
to
to
to
set
about
demands
or
complicate
these
things
further
than
what
we're
being
asked
to
address,
and
I'm
just
asking
are
we
getting
into
the
weeds
on
this?
If
a
major.
J
With
construction
projects,
it's
fairly
typical
to
have
a
parking
management
plan
as
part
of
the
overall
construction
management
plan.
This
wouldn't
be
any
different
for
mana
per
se
than
any
other
project
that
would
come
before
a
commission
or
pull
a
permit
from
the
building
department
that
could
have
impacts
on
neighboring
properties.
D
My
my
intent
in
raising
it
was
just
not
not
to
burden
the
neighborhood
during
the
10
to
14
months,
the
applicant
estimates.
The
project
will
take
I'm
fine
with
having
a
parking
management
plan
that
that
has
no
no
on-site
requirement
that
all
the
parking
is
someplace
else.
I'm
fine,
I'm
also
fine
with
what
mr
here,
the
the
exact
language
mr
heer
just
read.
D
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
we're
all
in
sync
on
this
that
if
we
go
forward
with
the
the
base
requirement
of
parking
on
site-
and
if
that
can't
be
done,
then
there's
a
parking
management
plan
or
my
preference
would
be
just
a
parking
management
plan
if
either
or
both
of
those
are
acceptable
to
the
applicant,
then
I
think
we
can
move.
A
Well,
let's,
let's
do
this
kind
of
an
organized
way
since
we
kind
of
are
fell
apart
here,
but
let's
first
of
all,
mr
here
made
up
or
came
up
with
an
idea
in
terms
of
something:
let's
ask
the
applicant
if
they
would
be
agreeable
with
that,
had
comments
about
that
and
then
we'll
go
to
each
commissioner
for
questions
applicant,
mr
petit,
mr
airsmith,
are
you
okay
with
what
mr
heather
proposed.
P
We
are
okay
with
it.
Yes,
that's
acceptable,
and-
and
in
my
experience-
and
this
is
something
that
would
be
reasonable
and
normal,
so
we're
okay
with
that,
and
we
would
want
to
comply.
A
K
I'll
go
again
just
because,
because
I
started
it
so
my
question
was:
we:
have
we
have
another
construction
site
literally
up
the
block
that
I'm
not
clear,
has
any
stipulation
like
that.
The
other
thing
I'm
aware
of
on
that
street
is
that
there's
a
significant
amount
of
employee
parking
for
businesses
that
are
along
the
boulevard
there
that
happens
in
that
neighborhood,
and
so
I
know
that
there's
there's
a
lot
of
demands,
and
so
I'm
curious
is
we're
not
the
parking
or
the
the
the
streets.
Commission
we're
not
traffic.
K
G
So
my
comment
would
be:
I
would
actually
have
to
check
to
see
what
conditions
are
on
any
project.
There
are
times
when
we
have
conditions
on
a
project
that
they
are
not
com.
The
applicant
is
not
complying
with
and
therefore
it
is
a
violation,
but
to
be
specific
on
this
one,
I
would
have
to
literally
have
to
check
to
see
what
the
conditions
were
for
the
apartment,
complex
project.
G
I
think
that
you're
referring
to
and
again
as
far
as
other
parking,
I
think
we
all
recognize
that
there
might
be
an
issue
over
there.
G
The
the
challenge
is,
if
you,
if
you
know
that,
there's
parking
issues,
there
are
choices
where
the
community
itself
can
do
some
type
of
parking
request.
Where
it's
it's
permanent
parking.
I
don't
think
we're
going
there,
but
I
think
the
other
issue
I
think
to
mr
newman's
point-
is
we
have
looked
at
this
sometimes
when
we
know
that
there
might
be
parking
conflicts,
and
so,
mr
newman's,
I
won't.
I
won't
speak
for
him,
but
I
think
his
comment
was
basically.
G
We
do
have
a
concern
about
that.
So
we
want
to
try
to
put
a
condition
that
puts
a
could
say,
makes
the
applicant
go
through
some
effort
to
try
and
make
sure
the
parking
impacts
to
the
street
in
that
area
are
alleviated
to
the
best
of
their
ability,
and
so
we
have
this
condition.
And
again
this
is
more
of
a
hybrid
where
we're
not
sure
they
can
all
be
on
that
property.
G
I
will
also
say
that
we
have
many
jobs
where
we
do
require
the
contractor
to
find
a
location
where
they
put
major
vehicles
or
large
vehicles
for
a
construction
plan,
so
they
don't
they're
not
parked
on
the
street
they're
they're
not
parked
on
site
per
se.
Due
to
this,
the
phase
of
the
construction
site,
but
they're
put
in
a
another
location.
G
In
fact,
I
think
I
know
that
the
city
actually
sometimes
leases
property
for
a
big
construction
project,
because
we
have
some
extra
space
and
we
lease
it
for
a
period
of
time,
six
to
eight
months
or
two
a
year,
probably
where
we
lease
it
for
that
purpose
and
again,
this
is
just
if
they
can't
be
on
the
property.
We
want
to
try
to
make
sure
that
they
follow
a
management
plan
that
they
will
comply
with
to
alleviate
that
issue.
A
K
I
think
I'm
good.
Thank
you.
D
D
I
I
would
agree
with
commissioner
bus
that
we're
not
in
the
traffic
business.
That's
that's,
definitely
true
and
we
shouldn't
be
making
traffic
rules
at
the
same
time
has
been
pointed
out.
We
do
routinely
impose
conditions
as
part
of
a
larger
application
and
I
don't
think
we
should
be
contributing
to
part
of
the
problem
ourselves
and
that's
really
the
spirit
in
which
I
think
this
discussion
was
was
moving.
D
With
the
additional
condition,
as
mr
heeger
drafted,
thank
you.
A
I
Mana
has
fulfilled
a
need
in
our
community
for
many
years
and
it's
unfortunately
growing
bigger,
and
I
think
that
we
as
a
city
need
to
support
them
as
much
as
we
can,
and
I
feel,
like
they've,
worked
really
well
and
hard
to
with
city
staff
to
make
this
the
best
thing
that
the
best
fit
for
our
community,
and
I
will
support
the
motion.
C
This
is
commissioner
cohan.
I
support
mana's
purpose
as
well.
I
think
this
adaptive
reuse
project
is,
is
creative
they've
gone
through
extensive
architectural
review,
they've
included
some
interesting
solar
panels
and
and
things
to
be
energy
efficient,
which
I
support,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
use
for
the
community,
and
I
support
this
project.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
kohan.
I
will
add.
Lastly,
I
think
you
guys
have
been
amazingly
patient
and
forceful
in
trying
to
get
this
process
done
with
the
city
staff
over
a
long
period
of
time.
It
has
a
great
benefit
to
our
community.
I
think
the
last
one
last
speaker
is
marco
collis
at
his
best
I'm
looking
forward
and
excited
about
this
prospect.
A
K
I
think,
in
light
of
the
fact
that
we're
a
city
of
well
over
a
hundred
thousand
people,
now
the
fact
that
we
are
able
to
support
the
people
who
are
who
who
need
food
and
need
our
assistance
in
a
facility.
That's
only
7
000
square
feet
is
amazing.
K
In
the
month
that
I've
been
stuck
at
home,
I've
seen
food
lines
in
texas
go
two
miles
long,
and
so
I
I
think
it's
a
a
mark
of
amazement
that
we
are
able
to
take
care
of
our
own
within
this
community,
and
I
praise
the
work
that
mana
does
to
make
that
happen,
and
the
fact
that
they're
going
to
take
a
building
that
is,
is
woefully
outdated.
K
They're
going
to
improve
the
sidewalks
they're
going
to
improve
the
appearance
of
the
of
that
building
and
and
make
it
a
place
that
people
can
go
to
with
dignity
is,
is
something
that
I
I
very
much.
I
very
much
support.
K
C
A
J
Thank
you,
chair
no
reports
this
evening.
A
Item
nine
commission
comments
in
ab1234
reports.
Any
commissioner
comments
or
1234
reports.
I
Commissioner
mcmahon
go
ahead,
I
just
wanted
to
commend
the
staff.
The
public
does
not
know
the
extent
that
went
behind
the
scenes
to
get
this
meeting
going.
The
staff
has
worked
very
hard,
and
I
think,
committed
hours
and
hours
to
get
this
right
and
to
make
this
process
as
easy
as
it
could
be
under
the
circumstances,
and
I
just
wanted.
I
I
just
wanted
to
let
the
public
know
that
it
wasn't
easy
and
they
did
it
and
they
did
it
really
well,
and
I
commend
them.
D
I'd
like
to
strongly
concur
with
commissioner
mcmahon's
comments.
I've
been
very
impressed
that
the
entire
city
government
has
remained
open
for
business,
maybe
in
a
different
form,
but
has
done
everything
moved
heaven
and
earth
to
make
sure
that
the
city
government
continues
to
operate
to
serve
the
citizens,
and
I
commend
all
the
efforts
that
have
been
done
to
that
end.
D
On
another
point:
it
it
seems
that
well
we'd
all
like
to
get
back
to
normal
as
soon
as
we
can.
Of
course,
that's
a
really
laudable
goal.
D
The
effects
of
this
crisis
may
last
longer
than
any
of
us
would
like
would
like
them
to
last,
and
I
don't
have
anything
specific
in
mind,
but
it
may
be
prudent
for
us
to
in
in
looking
at
future
applications
to
take
this
pandemic
and
think
about
what
effects
this
pandemic
or
future
pandemics
might
have
on
the
application
and
what
we
can
do
as
commissioners
and
as
citizens
to
address
that
and
to
build
in
mitigations
for
that
in
any
future
projects
that
we
consider.
K
Commissioner
boss,
here
I
also
want
to
thank
staff.
I
want
to
thank
the
citizens
of
the
city,
our
numbers,
as
far
as
people
have
become
ill
and
and
a
number
of
people
who
have
stayed
at
home
stayed
out
of
the
parks
adhered
to
to
our
safer
at
home.
Guidelines
has
been
amazing
and
I
think
it's
very
reflective
in
the
number
of
lives.
We've
stayed
in
the
both
the
city
and
in
this
county,
and
so
I
can't
thank
everyone
enough
for
everything.
A
I
I
will
just
say
for
me
myself
and
I
obviously
stay
home.
If
you
can't,
you
have
to
work,
know
that
we
all
appreciate
you,
the
the
hospital
staff
police
fire,
even
at
the
grocery
stores,
just
the
respect
level
of
the
community
that
I
see
when
I
go
out
even
walking
in
in
my
neighborhood
and
seeing
the
dance
that
everybody
has
to
play
to
stay
six
feet
away.
Do
they
cross
the
street?
Do
they
get
this
way?
A
I
mean
we're
all
trying
so
hard
to
make
sure
that
this
doesn't
yet
to
be
a
huge
issue
in
this
area,
and
just
please
be
nice
to
the
people
at
the
grocery
stores.
I'm
seeing
sometimes
people
get
a
little
frustrated
because
they're,
you
know
they,
the
person
won't
take
their
credit
card.
Whatever
realize
everybody
is,
is
worried
for
their
lives
and
trying
to
do
a
good
job
at
the
same
time
trying
to
be
respectful.
A
So
just
do
your
best
to
understand
we're
all
part
of
the
same
community,
no
matter
what
politics
or
other
stuff,
you
may
believe
right
now
we're
all
part
of
the
same
community.
It's
important
for
us
to
be
together
also,
please
go
on
and
do
the
census
get
involved
in
our
general
plan
update
and
all
the
other
stuff.
That's
going
on
with
that,
mr
parker.
Are
there
any
follow-up
items,
announcements
or
upcoming
issues?
None
this
evening
chair,
I
think
that's
it.
I
thank
everybody
for
participating.