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A
A
B
D
A
I'm
here
and
I
want
to
let
everybody
know
I
did
actually
come
in
with
my
mask,
I'm
taking
it
off
now
for
purposes
of
understanding
me.
I
heard
I
actually
I'm
a
little
bit
quiet
to
understand
with
the
mask
on,
but
I
do
have
it
and
do
where
it
wherever
we
go
and
you're
not
seeing
now,
but
most
everybody
is
wearing
a
mask
when
they
come
and
go,
and
I
would
suggest
all
of
you
do
as
well.
E
A
Okay,
recording
secretary:
do
we
have
any
actual
regular
public
comments?
I
don't
think
we
do
no
public
speakers,
no
okay,
so
we
will
go
to
the
number
six,
the
consent
calendar.
A
We
have
the
consent
calendar
with
the
minutes
from
the
april
20th
2020
meeting.
Amazing
to
think
we
haven't
been
here
for
four
months.
Do
any
of
my
fellow
commissioners
have
any
comments
or
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
C
I
believe
it'll
be
a
voice
vote.
Commissioner
bus
all
right,
commissioner
cohen.
A
And
that
is
approved
next,
we'll
move
on
to
item
seven
we're
going
to
take
them
a
little
bit
in
out
of
order.
We're
going
to
do
7b
first.
Will
the
clerk
please
open
the
public
hearing
on
7b.
C
Hearing
having
been
advertised
is
required
by
law
is
hereby
open
to
consider
agenda
item
7b
appeal
of
development.
Permit
minor
modification
number
dpmn,
2020-70184
appellant
is
requesting.
The
planning
commission
reverse
the
administrative
decision
approving
dpmn
2020-701-84,
thereby
denying
the
request
to
upgrade
an
existing
wireless
communications
facility
located
at
one
amgen
center
drive
b-27,
the
appellant
is
mandy
jacob
and
the
applicant
is
new,
singular
wireless,
pcs,
llc,
a
delaware,
limited
liability
company
by
at
t,
mobility
corporation,
its
manager.
A
Thank
you,
ms
core.
I've
been
advised.
The
city
received
a
request
this
morning
from
the
appellant's
attorney
mark
for
continuance
of
tonight's
hearing,
because
mr
pollock
has
informed
us
that
he
lives
and
practices
law
in
napa
county,
which
is
near
the
fires
and
emergency
issues
that
are
going
on
up
there.
Evacuation
orders
are
actually
in
effect,
and
many
parts
of
the
county
are
directly
impacting
him.
A
A
I'm
advised
staff
has
communicated
to
both
the
appellant
and
the
applicant
and
recommends
that
we
continue
this
matter
to
a
date
specific,
which
is
september
21st
2020,
which
is
our
next
meeting
to
accommodate
this
sudden
development,
and
to
that
extent
I
would
ask
one
of
my
commissioners
to
make
a
motion
with
regard
to
that
continuance.
For
a
date
specific
to
september,
21st,
2020.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Newman
any
other
comments
from
commissioners.
A
So
go
ahead
and
the
secretary
and
prepare
us
for
a
vote.
A
A
So
any
comments,
information
anything
that
would
be
presented
as
part
of
this
hearing
will
now
go
forward
on
september
21st
2020,
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
be
involved
in
that
hearing,
follow
the
typical
guidelines
you
would
have
on
the
city's
website
with
regard
to
being
involved
in
any
planning
commission
hearing,
as
if
that
hearing
took
place
today,
just
make
sure
that
you
get
the
information,
whether
it's
written
comments
or
being
part
of
this
zoom
presentation.
But
again
that
hearing
is
now
going
to
be
on
september.
21St.
2020..
C
Hearing
having
been
advertised
is
required
by
law
is
hereby
open
to
consider
agenda
item
7a
continuance
of
special
use,
permit
number
sup,
2009-70409
oak
tree,
permit
number
otp
2011-7018,
I'm
sorry
64-70164
and
landmark
tree
permit
number
ltp
2018-70271
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
self-storage
building
with
encroachment
within
25
percent
or
greater
natural
slope,
removal
of
one
oak
tree
and
encroachment
within
the
protected
zones
of
three
other
oak
trees
and
removal
of
one
toy
entry
located
at
2650
willow
lane.
The
applicant
is
james
sandifer.
D
D
D
This
is
the
aerial
photo
of
the
project
site.
Conejo
ridge
is
to
the
to
the
west,
the
101
freeway
to
the
north
willow
lane.
Obviously,
here
at
the
front
and
skyline
drive
to
the
west
or
to
the
east,
I'm
sorry
there
are
three
utility
poles
on
the
property
that
that
will
be
removed
and
the
utilities
would
be
undergrounded.
D
The
adjacent
uses
on
the
property
on
the
west
side
is
another
storage.
Self
storage
facility
to
the
north
is
a
mobile
home
park
across
from
the
101
freeway
and
a
nursery
school
to
the
east
adjacent
to
the
property
and
some
vacant
residential
lots
on
the
south
side
on
the
north
south
side
of
the
property.
D
This
is
a
view
of
the
project
site
from
the
southbound
side
of
the
101
freeway.
The
project
site
is
identified
by
the
this
power
pole.
That's
located
on
the
property,
here's
a
closer
view
of
the
site
from
the
same
side
of
the
freeway.
D
D
The
oak
tree
number
five,
which
is
the
one
proposed
for
removal,
is
located
right
here
in
the
middle.
The
highest
point
on
the
property
is
about
996
feet,
the
other
oak
trees.
Three
other
oak
trees
are
located
on
the
same
property,
octane
numbers
two
three
and
four
on
oak
trees
on
the
within
the
protected
zones
of
oklahoma,
oaktree
numbers.
D
The
one
of
the
upside
three
that
will
be
affected
by
this
project
is
oaktree
number
one
which
is
along
located
down
on
willow
lane,
which
will
be
encroached
upon
by
a
proposed
retaining
wall
along
the
front
of
the
property.
There
will
be
a
double
retaining
wall
along
the
front
going
down
into
about
100
feet
into
the
driveway.
D
D
This
shows
the
proposed
elevations
for
the
project.
The
top
figure
shows
the
rear
of
the
building
and
the
existing
finished
grade
for
the
of
the
project
of
the
project
site.
D
The
materials
will
consist
of
brown
stucco
in
different
shades,
some
rock
materials
and
brick
for
the
for
the
towers.
D
This
slide
shows
the
roof
plan,
which
is
pretty
pretty
much
flat
and
the
first,
the
third
and
second
floor
plans.
D
Surrounding
land
uses,
as
mentioned
earlier
to
the
north,
is
the
101
freeway.
The
on
the
east
is
the
nursery
daycare
and
the
south
is
the
are
the
vacant
lots
and
to
the
west
would
be
the
existing
self
storage
facility?
D
D
There
are
three
utility
poles
on
the
project
side
that
will
be
removed
in
2009,
a
general
plan
amendment
to
change
the
land
use
designation
from
residential
to
m1
and
a
zone
change
application
from
re
to
m1
were
initiated
to
change
the
lan
to
change
the
language's
designations,
basically,
along
with
the
special
use
permit
for
the
office
building,
which
was
originally
proposed
in
2004,
the
land
use
was
the
the
general
pen
amendment
and
the
zone,
change
were
approved
and
were
adopted
and
the
land
use
was
changed
from
residential
to
indus
to
industrial
and
the
zoning
was
changed
from
re
to
m1
in
2018
there
was
a
change
of
ownership
on
the
property,
the
new
owner
who's.
D
D
The
following
tables
will
show
you
the
the
columns
on
the
issues
brought
up
by
staff,
the
action
taken
by
the
applicant
and
whether
the
action
was
acceptable
or
not.
The
first
two
issues
are
silhouetting
and
grading
for
silhouetting
to
address
the
silhouetting
issue.
The
applicant
reduced
the
height
of
the
building
from
36
feet
to
down
to
27
feet.
D
D
D
D
So
this
the
facade
exposure
was
already
was
addressed
when,
by
moving
the
by
recessing
the
third
floor,
the
portion
of
the
building
on
the
west
and
the
east
sides
were
stepped
back
to
reduce
the
facades
visibility
from
the
101
freeway
kind
of
step.
It
back
large
trees
will
be
planted
along
the
front
of
the
property
to
be
to
reduce
to
further
reduce
the
visibility
from
the
101
freeway.
D
As
for
the
building
being
too
tall
in
buildings
on
building
scale,
the
building,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
was
reduced
to
three
stories
and
the
third
floor
have
been
stepped
back
now.
The
last
three
issues
are
building
messing,
discourage
elements
and
parking
for
building
massing.
The
building
used
to
have
a
flat
finish
this
time
the
applicant
introduced
some
architectural
features
like
four
windows
towers,
roof
features
that
provides
articulation
to
the
building
discourage
element.
The
building
before
was
boxing
design
and
in
need
of
architectural
character,
with
the
introduction
of
various
materials
like
stucco,
stone
and
brick.
D
The
this
issue
was
addressed
accordingly,
in
addition
to
to
adding
cornices
roof
elements
and
four
towers
which
add
character
to
the
building.
As
far
as
the
parking
concerned,
the
original
proposed
parking
spaces.
The
original
proposed
building
square
footage
was
101
square
thousand
square
feet.
It's
been
now
reduced
to
84
000
square
feet,
which
now
requires
21
parking
spaces,
and
I
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
make
a
correction
on
the
condition
condition
number
one.
D
I'm
sorry
condition
number
21,
which
indicates
that
the
parking
number
parking
spaces
will
is
23
that
should
be
changed
down
to
21
and
staff
will
be
making
those
changes.
If
the
commission
has
approves
this
project,
mr
chu,
which
condition
was
that
condition
number
21
of
sup0970?
D
The
following
slides
would
present
the
the
photo
simulations
or
renderings
for
the
proposed
building.
As
you
can
see,
the
original
building
has
the
the
third
floor,
not
recessed
from
the
building.
D
It
has
a
monochromatic
finish
of
using
a
gray,
split,
split,
split,
stone,
dark
and
light
gray.
So
that's
what
it
looks
like
originally
us
presented
this
new
one
presents
a
project
with
a
brown
tone
on
it.
It's
got
stucco
finish
brick,
materials,
cornices,
full
roof
windows
and
stepping
back
of
the
building
from
horizontally,
making
it
giving
it
a
horizontal
breakup
and
vertical
break
up
as
well.
D
D
This
is
what's
going
to
be
exposed
the
third
floor.
The
fourth
floor
of
the
building
has
been
removed.
The
third
floor,
which
was
here
up
to
the
second
floor
here,
was
stepped
back,
so
the
visibility
of
the
building
was
reduced,
with
stepping
back
the
building
and
reducing
it
by
a
single
floor
by
by
one
floor,
this
is
the
original
rendering
for
the
building.
D
This
is
the
proposed
rendering,
as
you
can
see,
it's
lower,
and
the
next
slide
will
show.
I'm
sorry
we'll
show
the
the
building
of
what
the
building
is
going
to
look
like
when
the
mil
the
proposed
landscaping
has
matured.
D
This
next
slide
here
is
a
current
rendering
of
the
proposed
project,
viewing
it
from
the
101
freeway,
with
the
rendering
showing
the
proposed
landscaping
upon
maturing.
D
Excuse
me,
the
the
project
was
evaluated
against
the
city's
development
applicable
development
standards
parking
pro.
The
first
column
is
the
development
standard.
The
second
column
is
the
required,
the
minimum
or
the
maximum
required
the
proposed,
and
then
third
column
would
be
the
proposed
and
the
fourth
column,
whether
it
complies
or
not.
A
D
Okay,
go
ahead:
building
height,
the
maximum
height
for
an
m1
zone
is
35
feet,
the
average
building
height.
In
this
case
we
calculate
the
height
because
the
building
it
sits
on
a
different
grade
level,
so
the
average
height
calculated
height
is
26.7
feet.
Yes
and
yes,
it
complies
for
the
front
setback.
The
front
setback
is
measured
from
the
center
line
of
the
adjacent
street
for
m1
zone.
D
That
would
be
100
feet.
Minimum
the
proposed
is
101
151
feet
and
10
inches
and,
yes,
it
complies
the
left
and
the
rear
minimum
size.
Minimum
setbacks
are
10
feet.
The
proposed
are
40
feet
and
10
feet
respectively.
Now
on
the
right
side,
which
is
the
west
side,
the
reason
why
we
have
the
10
foot
minimum
on
the
left
and
the
rear
sides
are
because
those
sides
are
adjacent
to
a
residential
area
and
the
municipal
code
requires
a
10
foot
minimum
for
the
right
side,
which
is
the
west
side
adjacent
to
another
industrial
use.
D
D
As
far
as
grading
is
concerned,
I've
discussed
this
grading
and
the
the
pad
will
be
lowered
by
about
20
20
feet.
D
The
the
grading
activity
requires
planning
planning
commission
approval
because
of
the
greater
the
25
or
or
greater
slope.
That
slope
is
insignificant
because
of
the
fact
that
it's
a
remnant
of
a
previous
activity
and
that
this
slope
is
not
visible
from
the
101
freeway.
D
As
far
as
the
manufactured
slope,
the
minimum,
the
the
max
the
limit,
the
maximum
slope
limit
is
two
to
one
slope,
which
is
for
every
two
horizontal
run.
That's
there
should
be
a
one
vertical
run
and
that's
the
maximum
slope
allowed
without
approval
by
the
planning
commission.
D
The
planning
commission
may
gra
grant
the
waiver
if
the
applic,
the
applicant
can
certify
that
the
slope
is
stable
and
can
be
landscaped
and
that
and
that
the
engineer
or
and
their
consultant
can
certify
that
the
slope
can
be
will
be
stable
and
can
be
planted.
In
this
case,
staff
is
supporting
this
one
and
a
half
to
one
ratio,
because
without
this
one
and
a
half
to
one
ratio,
approximately
12
foot
high
maximum
wall
will
be
is
will
be
required
along
that
portion
of
the
property,
which
is
not
visually
pleasing.
D
This
is
a
two-tiered
wall
that
varies
from
one
and
a
half
to
two
feet
down
to
two
feet.
This
is
on
the
west
side
is
that
the
lowest,
the
lowest
height
of
the
walls,
will
occur
along
the
termini
of
these
retaining
walls
on
the
driveway
and
the
west
side
of
the
building
along
willow
lane,
the
tiered
walls
will
have
a
maximum
of
six
foot
high.
D
This
is
the
proposed
landscape
plants.
That's,
as
you
can
see,
the
proposed
landscape
plan
is
heavily
planted
with
large
large
trees,
24
inch
box
trees
along
the
front,
which
has
exposure
and
along
the
side.
This
is
the
area
of
the
building
where
it
was
reduced
down
by
10
feet
to
allow
for
matured
landscaping.
D
There
will
be
encroachment
within
the
protected
zones
of
three
oak
trees,
as
mentioned
earlier.
One
there
will
be
the
oak
tree
number
one,
which
is
on
the
right
of
way
will
be
encroached
upon
by
the
retaining
wall
staff.
Consider
this
a
minor
encroachment
and
we're
we're
supporting
it,
because
the
option,
if
no
encroachment
is
approved,
would
be
a
12
foot,
high
rate
single
12,
full
time
retaining
wall,
which
is
less
aesthetically
pleasing
the
encroachment
the
other
two
encroachment
will
occur
within
the
protected
zones
of
auctis
numbers.
D
D
The
landmark
tree
permit
is
requested
to
remove
one
toyon
tree.
This
toy
entry
is
located
along
the
existing
driveway
on
the
property.
However,
with
the
new
driveway,
this
would
be
located
centrally
located
within
that
driveway
and
there's
no
way
to
provide
a
driveway
that
complies
with
the
public
works
requirement
without
removing
this
distorian
tree.
So
removal
of
this
toy
entry
is
supported
by
staff
as
well.
D
D
It's
a
two
trunk
tree,
it's
in
poor
condition,
and
it's
located,
as
I
said,
in
the
line
right
away.
This
oak
tree
will,
however,
be
saved,
and
the
only
impact
of
this
tree
would
be
the
second
retaining
wall
that
would
be
installed
along
the
willow
lane.
The
other
four
oak
trees
are
all
on
site
and
they're
all
coast
live
oak,
three
of
them,
two
of
them
are
multi-trunk.
D
D
Oak
tree
number
four
will
not
be
affected
oak
tree
number.
Twenty,
I'm
sorry
option
number
five
has
a
20
inch
trunk
and
will
be
removed.
This
is
the
one
that's
centrally
located
on
the
property
and
octane,
and
the
tree
number
six
would
be
the
toyon
tree,
which
has
diameters.
That
varies
from
one
to
six
inches.
D
D
D
The
normal
replacement
ratio
is
two
24
inch
box
and
one
36
inch
box.
For
this
case
staff
is
recommending
because
of
the
significant
size
of
the
tree
20
inches.
We
are
recommending
a
60
inch
box
tree
as
a
replacement
instead
of
the
36
inch
box.
D
The
applicant
is
aware
of
this,
and
the
applicant
accepts
this
condition.
As
far
as
the
toilet
replacement
is
concerned,
there
are
no
box
ox
toy
entries
available
that
will
match
the
size
of
the
toy
entry.
That's
being
approved
for
being
considered
for
removal,
so
in
place
of
that
staff
is
recommending
six
15
15
gallon
toy
entries.
Instead.
D
For
environmental
review,
this
project
is
reviewed
against
categorical
exemption
32
class
32,
which
is
section
15332.
D
D
The
approval
of
this
project
would
not
result
in
any
significant
effects
relating
to
traffic
noise,
air
quality
or
water
quality.
Because
of
the
nature
of
the
self
storage
use,
the
site
can
be
served
by
all
required
utilities
and
public
services,
so
staff
finds
that
this
project
is
exempt
under
class
32,
categorical
exemption.
D
A
You,
mr
chua,
I
think
before
we
get
to
questions,
I
think
commissioner
kohan
had
a
comment.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
lansin.
Before
we
begin,
I
I
want
to
let
everyone
know
that
my
my
employer
prepared
a
technical
study
for
this
proposed
project
so
as
an
abundance
of
caution
I'll
be
excusing
myself
from
this
agenda
item.
Thank
you.
A
C
E
D
Yes,
there
will
be
four
single-family
homes
being
proposed
behind
that
on
the
south
side
of
the
property.
E
D
Yes,
he
is
well
aware
of
it,
as
a
matter
of
fact
they
have
granted
is
meant
for
the
applicant
to
perform
the
required
block
brush
clearance
if
needed.
So,
yes,
they
are
he's
aware
of
it.
A
I'll
take
my
turn
then,
and
have
a
quick
one
back
to
the
easement
issue.
I
believe
one,
the
the
one
of
the
empty
lots
we
actually
approved
within
a
year
or
two
ago
to
build
on
that
site,
and
I
think
at
that
time
one
of
the
discussion
was
is:
is
maintenance
of
some
of
that
areas
above
it
if
my
memory
serves
correctly,
so
this
applicant
would
have
the
obligation
to
weed
for
that.
What
90
feet.
D
D
I
believe
that's
if
I
could
remember
it
right.
The
applicant's
name
was
moses
on
that
property
that
that
is
further
down
south
on
south
skyline,
I'm
sorry
south
skyline,
and
it's
not
anywhere
close
to
this
property.
This
is
much
lower
in
skyline,
and
these
properties
are
on
on
the
the
the
four
lots
that
are
being
proposed
are
on
the
top
of
the
hill.
A
B
B
Today,
we've
got
a
letter
in
opposition.
This
is
in
packet.
Two
from
mr
bauer
standing
concern
about
how
narrow
will
and
saying
there
might
be
problems
getting
trucks
in
and
out
of
this
facility.
D
The
for
your
information
as
part
of
this
project,
mr
nader
hyder,
is
here
tonight.
This
project
would
be
in
line
with
the
city's
proposed
public
works
capital
improvement
to
widen
the
streets
up
to
36
feet
in
in
relation
to
traffic.
As
far
as
maybe
truck
routing
is
concerned
that
would
be
handled
during
the
grading
plan
plan
check,
they
will
be
designating
the
locations
of
truck
staging
locations
for
trucks.
Mr
bradbustel
is
here
and
brad
you
can
chime
in.
D
B
Okay,
great
while
we're
on
the
subject
of
cars
and
and
traffic
and
all
the
the
revised
application
brings
the
number
of
parking
spaces
into
spec
by
adding
some
more
parking
spaces.
B
I
have
a
hypothetical
question
for
you:
there
is
no.
There
is
no
specific
code
or
zoning
requirement
that
covers
self-storage
facilities,
but
we,
the
commission,
do
have
the
power
to
waive
the
parking
space
requirement.
So
my
question
is
this:
is,
as
currently
constituted,
we're
chopping
down
the
largest
tree
largest
oak
tree
on
the
property.
B
D
D
Okay,
so
this
is
the
property
and
I
will
be
tracing
the
property
lines
by
my
arrow
here,
so
the
area
for
the
building
the
proposed
building
is
right
here.
This
is
the
outline
for
the
floor
plan
of
the
building.
D
As
you
can
see,
the
oak
tree
is
located
right
here
towards
the
middle
of
the
property
and
there's
no
feasible
way
of
reconfiguring
any
or
removing
any
parking
space
or
moving
the
building
up
or
down
to
to
be
able
to
save
this
oak
tree.
So
the
answer
to
your
question,
unfortunately,
is
not.
We
would
like
to
save
the
tree,
but
there's
no
way
to
save
it.
Unfortunately,
so.
B
Okay,
thank
you
also
on
trees,
condition.
31
requires,
as
you
mentioned,
24
and
36,
and
60
inch,
box
or
or
larger
evergreen
trees,
and
it
also
says
that
this
number
will
include
mitigation
trees
from
the
oak
tree.
Permit
the
landmark
tree
permit
so
two
questions
about
that
number.
One
are
oaks
considered
evergreens.
D
Yeah,
I
believe
so.
Yes,.
B
B
So
moving
on
then
there
there
are
photo
simulations
show
that
the
the
these
replacement
trees
substantially
will
cover
the
building,
and
my
question
on
that
is:
how
many
years
will
it
take
these
box
trees
to
grow
to
the
height
shown
in
the
photo
simulation.
D
Most
likely,
but
the
the
when
we
do
the
the
landscape
review
for
this.
That's
why,
in
my
staff
report,
I
pointed
out
that
this
is
not
what
the
the
final
landscaping
would
look
like.
What
it
is
is
we
will
have
our
oak
tree
consultant
or
our
landscape
consultant
to
strategically
place
the
trees,
wherein
it
will
provide
the
maximum
coverage
at
the
time
that
the
tree
is
growing.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
perfect,
but
we
will
try
our
best.
B
Moving
on
to
the
grading-
that's
involved
here,
you
mentioned
in
your
report:
there
are
32
500
cubic
yards
of
cut
here
and
that's
2
250
truck
trips,
correct.
D
B
D
Well,
there
will
not
be
there
will
be
a
certain
number
of
trucks
each
day
and
they
will
not
be
hauling.
You
know
all
this
debris
the
same
day.
Public
works
will
provide
staging
area
for
the
trucks
so
that
they
won't
be
parking
on
wheel
lane
because
there's
no
parking
on
willow
lane.
As
far
as
I
know
right
so
there
are
other
possible
locations
for
could
be
on.
It
could
be
on
willow.
D
What's
that
street
conejo
ridge,
that
that
is
a
seldomly
tribal
location?
That's
a
potential
location
and
I've
seen
hauling
trucks
being
parked
on
on
rancho
road
early
in
the
morning,
so
those
are
possible
locations
for
truck
staging
while
they're
waiting
for
their
hall.
G
All
right
dari
just
to
respond
to
that
question
that
will
be
a
condition
of
the
grading
permit,
so
the
grading
permit
will
not
be
issued
until
they've
provided
a
satisfactory
haul
route
that
is
suitable
and
doesn't
send
it
all
the
trucks
to
our
school
and
so
forth.
All
those
things
will
be
considered
now,
in
this
particular
case.
There's
really
only
two
options
they
have
which
has
delineated.
Either
they
go
to
thousands
boulevard
or
they
go
to
hampshire,
it'd
be
more
likely.
G
They
would
go
to
hampshire
because
that
will
connect
them
to
the
freeway,
unless,
of
course,
that
is
there's
a
nearby
job
site
that
needs
phil.
That
is
in
the
direction
of
the
thousands
boulevard
but
more
likely
of
new
hampshire,
and
that's
probably
where
we
would
be
encouraging
them
to
go.
But
that'll
get
worked
out
before
we
issue
any
grading.
Permit.
B
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
while
we're
on
the
subject
of
construction
vehicles,
this
is
the
same
question
we
had
at
our
last
meeting
about
construction
vehicles,
and
this
is
condition
48,
as
mr
chua
mentioned.
Most
of
the
lane
is
very
narrow.
There's
no
shoulder
let
alone
parking.
Where
will
the
construction
vehicles
park.
G
We're
finding
that
that's,
you
know
a
more
of
a
common
theme
as
the
city's
getting
more
built
out
and
there's
less.
You
know
vacant
parcels
here
and
there
for
people
to
be
able
to
operate
out
of
and
and
utilize
and
in
fact
the
one
on
duesenberg,
which
was
used
by
many
projects
over
the
years,
is
now
almost
completed
as
a
assisted
living
facility
so
that
one's
going
to
be
gone
and
yeah
generally.
G
Projects
like
this
have
to
you
know
self,
contain
or
find
you
know,
make
self
arrangements
for
parking
off-site
at
a
at
a
lot
that
they
they
lease
or
rent.
My
understanding
is
that
the
applicant
may
have
ownership
of
a
nearby
property,
so
he
may
be
taking
care
of
that
already
on
his
end.
But
those
are
arrangements
that
need
to
be
made.
There
certainly
will
not
be
any
ability
to
park
on
willow
lane,
depending
on
the
timing
of
the
project.
G
The
city
may
be
under
construction
on
willow
lane
on
our
improvement,
as
we
got
to
widen
the
street
and
put
sidewalks
and
bike
lanes
in.
So
there
could
be
a
lot
of
demand
for
parking
nearby,
but
certainly
no
parking
will
be
allowed.
G
B
On
what
little
space
there
is
there
I'll
follow
up
with
the
applicant?
I
mean
the
way
we
resolved
this
last
time
was
to
add
a
condition
that
required
the
applicant
to
put
to
park
on
site
when
feasible.
So
obviously,
when
there's
grading
going
on,
it's
not
possible
to
put
vehicles
there,
but
but
once
that
stage
is
done-
and
I
hope
that
doesn't
take
too
long,
then
there
should
be
parking
available.
B
Just
a
couple
of
questions
left
going
back
to
the
trees
in
the
oak
and
landmark
tree
permits,
the
mitigation
measures
are
given
the
three
to
one
replacements,
as
mr
mentioned,
I
just
want
to
verify,
are:
are
all
those
replacement?
The
three
to
one
replacements?
Are
those
all
going
on
site
here
or
are
any
of
the
trees
slated
to
go
off
site
somewhere
else?.
D
Yes,
there
will
all
the
replacement
and
mitigation
trees
will
be
planted
on
site
and
will
be
incorporated
in
the
landscape
lens.
B
D
The
so
condition
number
27
remember.
B
A
It's
a
good
problem
to
have
when
we're
all
looking
at
the
the
documentation,
I'll
ask
just
a
follow-up
standard.
Aside
from
the
one
comment
we
have
in
supplement.
Two:
did
you
receive
any
other
comments
from
neighbors
citizens?
Anybody
else
with
regard
to
this
project
that
we
haven't
seen.
A
Okay
at
this
point,
if
there's
no
more
questions
from
the
commissioners,
we
will
then
now
go
to
the
applicant,
and
their
representative
will
have
15
minutes
for
anybody
speaking
for
the
applicant
or
on
their
behalf,
please
make
sure
to
state
your
name
and
city
of
residence.
I
believe
we
have
james
sandofer.
F
Okay,
here
I
am
yeah
james
sanderfer,
I'm
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks
and
staff
pretty
laid
out
pretty
well.
We've
been
working
together,
as
you
said
for
last
year
and
a
half
since
continuance,
and
I
think
the
staff
is
recommended
approval
and
we're
we're
happy
about
that.
We're
ready
to
move
on
and
if
there's
any
questions
I
really
have
much
to
say
because
it
will's
pretty
much
laid
it
all
out.
So
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
I'm
here
and
the
architect,
neil
scrivner
is
right
here.
F
A
I'll,
just
real
quick
one
in
terms
of
following
up
mr
chua's
comment,
mr
sander,
for
you
understand
all
the
conditions
and
things
that
ultimately
have
been
asked
of
you
as
part
of
this
process
and
you're
agreeable
with
everything
that
mr
chua
said.
Right.
F
A
Okay,
we'll
then
turn
over
to
commissioner
questions.
F
I
do
have
a
couple
things
to
say
to
answer
a
couple
questions.
Oh
okay,
go
ahead!
I
just
remembered
the
renderings.
You
know
we're
talking
about
the
trees
and
how
fast
they
grow
and
and
all
that
from
the
freeway.
First
of
all,
the
rendering
is
from
the
10th
laying
over
that's
so
that
that
show
you'll
see
the
most
from
there
when
you're
going
southbound,
you
won't
see
anything
and
the
trees
are
different
types
of
trees,
so
they
grow
at
different
rates.
F
The
oaks
are
the
slowest
growing
and
then
there's
many
other
several
other
types
that
grow
much
more
quickly
and
those
are
the
ones
along
the
street
so
that
that
will
you
know
we
didn't
really
want
to
cover
the
whole
building
up.
But
that's
what's
going
to
happen
eventually
as
far
as
the
dirt
we
we
purchased
the
lot
at
skyline
and
willow.
F
A
Okay,
anything
further
before
we
go
to
commissioner
questions,
mr
sander,
for
mr
scrivener
anything
further.
You
guys
want
to
add
before
I
go
to
commissioner
questions.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so,
let's
open
up
the
commissioner
questions,
commissioners,
who
would
like
to
go
first.
E
All
right
so,
mr
jennifer,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
coming
back
to
us
after
a
year
and
a
half
my
biggest
question
and.
E
You
had
that
a
lot
over
on
skyline-
and
I
remember
that
was
your
intent
over
there.
I
remember
we
were
talking
about
like
a
you,
you're
thinking
at
one
point
of
building
a
structure
to
just
funnel
the
dirt
over
across
that
way
almost,
but
it
sounds
like
you've
got
it
in
hand,
you're
just
gonna
kind
of
transport
it
around
across
willow.
E
My
only
other
question
for
you
is:
are
you
in
contact
with
the
people
that
are
building
the
residential
homes
to
to
the
south
of
you,
because
it
sounds
like
you
haven't
worked
out
for
brush
clearance
and
all
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that's
all
been
communicated
between
between
you
and
me
that
are
joining
property.
F
Yes,
yeah,
we
actually
talked
at
the
last
meeting
and
met
there
and
he
was
there
at
the
meeting
and
we've
we've
spoken
since
and
yeah.
That's
not
a
problem
with
the
clearing
the
breeds
and
and
he's
hoping
to
go
fairly
soon.
Also,
we
don't
know
how
fast
it's
going
to
go,
but
so
he'll
be
building
and
clearing
and
grading
also.
B
Just
one
thanks
and
mr
sanderver
thank
you
to
you
and
your
staff
for
working
with
the
city
to
bring
this
project
into
compliance.
Much
appreciated.
My
question
is
regarding
the
a
lot
at
skyrim
and
willow
lane
it
is,
it
is
below
street
level.
It's
I
don't
know
eight
feet,
maybe
10
feet.
I
don't
know
if
it's
that
much,
but
there
is
an
indentation
there,
so
so,
once
the
32
500
cubic
yards
of
dirt
is
moved.
How
do
you
anticipate
that
lot
would
look?
Would
it
be
level
with
the
street?
F
It'll
be
above
the
street
level,
and
the
street
varies
a
lot
like.
I
said
it's
maybe
four
feet
low
in
some
places
and
eight
feet
in
others,
because
skyline
and
willow
dip
and
rise
around
the
slot
so
we'll
be
higher.
We
need
to
be
for
flight
control.
We
need
to
be
higher
from
in
the
street
anyway,
so
we'll
be
we'll
be
higher.
It'll
be
there'll,
be
a
lot
of
dirt
going
in
there
to
fill
it
up
just
to
get
it
to
where
it
needs
to
be
to
be
for
housing.
B
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Newman
commissioner
mcmahon,
you
have
any
questions.
A
I
just
have
one
follow-up
and
mr
sander
for
mr
scrivener.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
actually
for
working
with
the
staff
when
the
continuance
occurred.
I
was,
I
know
there
was
a
little
concern
and
frustration,
but
I
was
really
happy
to
see
that
you
kind
of
work
with
the
staff-
and
you
guys
have
worked
out
a
lot
of
the
issues
and
that's
that's
great
to
see,
because
that
makes
our
job
a
little
easier
in
terms
of
figuring
out
how
to
how
to
move
forward.
A
The
one
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
about
was
the
the
dirt
transportation.
Are
it
sounds.
Like
I
mean
these
trucks
aren't
going
to
be
parked
very
long.
Then,
if
it's
really
just
going
back
and
forth,
what
is
actually
your
intent?
Is
it
to
get
that
done
in
a
certain
a
few
weeks
or
what?
What
is
the
plan
with
regard
to
the
dirt
movement.
F
Well,
my
plan:
you
know
we
have
to
we're
widening
the
street
a
lot.
You
know
it's
12
to
15
feet
wider
and
that's
where
the
retaining
wall
is
going
to
go.
So
that's
why
we
need
to
retain
the
wall.
There's
no
retaining
wall
there.
Now
so
we'll
be
widening
the
street
and
in
that,
what
I'm
looking
at
is
the
trucks
will
just
pull
up
on
our
new
site,
new
area
that
we
graded
and
load
right
there.
So
they
don't
have
to
go
up
the
driveway
they'll
load
right
there
right
drive
right
across
the
street.
F
Stop
it
come
back,
probably
go
up
to
canelo
school
and
do
a
u-turn
and
then
get
in
line
again,
and
we
should
go
quickly
and
be
not
much.
We'll
probably
have
to
have
traffic
people
there.
You
know
to
make
sure,
but
the
harley
we're
gonna
have
to
even
go
on
the
street.
It's
just
it's
just
gonna
be
a
right
down
this.
You
know
a
few
hundred
feet.
E
Kim
or
chair
lansin
staff
did
talk
to
the
applicant
about
this
potentially
moving
dirt
from
the
proposed
site
to
the
family
residential
site.
We
did
not
include
it
as
part
of
this
request,
because
it
would
require
planning,
commission
approval
and
it
could
require
additional
environmental
analysis
that
was
not
performed.
E
A
E
E
Number
48
and
he
made
a
request
that
it
might
be
modified
in
a
way
to,
and
this
was
briefly
discussed-
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
condition
if
it's
going
to
be
modified,
that
everybody
understands
that
condition
is
modified
and
understands
the
term.
If
and
if
mr
newman
is
okay
with
it,
I
can.
I
think
I
understand
what
he's
trying
to
do,
and
so
I
would
read
a
modification
to
condition
number
48
to
ensure
that
the
applicant
is
aware
of
this.
A
A
Okay,
any
other
commissioner
questions
all
right,
so
we'll
go
to
the
next
process,
which
normally
is
the
public
comment
part,
and
we
have
two
people
that
signed
up
to
speak
I'll,
announce
their
names.
I
don't
believe
they're
on
the
line,
but
I'm
announcing
their
names
and
just
to
make
sure
the
first
speaker
we
had
was
russ
bauer.
A
Mr
bauer,
are
you
there?
No,
mr
bauer
actually
submitted
packet,
two,
which
was
an
email
which
I'm
assuming
is
what
he
intended
to
say
so,
we'll
consider
that's
part
of
the
process.
The
second
speaker
was
bob
lotto,
who,
I
don't
believe
is
on
the
line
either.
A
So
that
will
be
it
for
public
comment
go
back
to
staff,
mr
chu,
did
you
have
anything
further
to
add.
A
Okay
and
then
finally,
mr
sandofer
and
mr
scribner,
is
there
anything
else
you
wanted
to
advise
us
about
before
we
close
the
public
part
of
the
hearing.
A
I
think
we're
good
all
right.
So
that
point
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
open
the
matter
up
to
commissioners
for
comments
or
emotion,.
A
C
A
And
as
this
was
a
determination,
I
have
to
read
the
appeal
period,
any
agreed
party
who
wishes
to
appeal
the
planning
commission's
decision
may
do
so
by
filing
an
appeal
with
the
community
development
department
within
10
days.
A
E
Thank
you
chair.
We
do
not
have
any
this
evening.
A
B
B
This
is
from
a
fellow
in
urban
planning
at
chapman
university,
and
it
is
discussing
why
overall,
death
rates
from
the
coronavirus
have
been
so
much
lower
in
california
compared
with
the
new
york
new
jersey
area
and
correlating
that
with
housing
density,
and
I
hope,
as
we
consider
future
applications
that
involve
very
dense
housing,
that
we
do
consider
the
health
and
safety
of
residents
in
in
our
discussions,
because,
unfortunately,
it's
going
to
be
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
for
the
at
least
for
the
foreseeable
future.
A
I'll
just
briefly
say
that,
unfortunately,
looks
like
we
had
388
new
cases
of
the
virus
over
the
weekend,
which
means
we
are
going
backwards,
unfortunately,
that
the
for
us
to
get
off
the
watch
list,
there's
six
factors
that
need
to
be
evaluated
and
we
need
to
pass
the
one
we're
not
passing
is
the
infection
rate
and
we
need
to
keep
it
under.
I
think
60
a
day
it's
over
the
weekend,
we
had
388
so
again
not
trying
to
be
political
or
either
way.
A
But
wear
these
things
stay
six
to
ten
feet,
away,
stay
out
of
groups,
wash
your
hands
and
try
not
to
get
the
virus
because,
as
soon
as
you
do
that
we
can
get
back
in
and
have
our
businesses
open,
we
can
get
back
to
our
lives.
So
as
soon
as
everybody
follows
the
rule,
everybody
can
get
their
lives
back.
Any
other
commissioner
comments
go
to
staff
update.
Mr
parker.
Is
there
any
updates.
E
Just
briefly
for
our
next
meeting
on
september,
21st,
there's
tentatively
three
items
on
that
agenda.
So
it'll
be
a
busy
night
lots
of
business
to
take
care
of
other
than
that.
We
don't
have
any
additional
announcements.
A
One
last
thing
I
just
want
to
say
the
staff
has
done
an
amazing
job.
This
is
this.
I
thought
was
going
to
be
a
horrendous
process
to
deal
with
in
terms
of
this
virus.
You
guys
have
done
a
fantastic
job.
It's
like
this
is
the
same
meeting.
We
normally
have
so
thanks
to
everybody.
For
that
with
that
will
adjourn.