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From YouTube: Thousand Oaks Traffic Commission Meeting - July 20, 2022
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Thousand Oaks Traffic Commission Meeting 7/20/22
A
Welcome
everybody:
this
is
the
July
20th
2022
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission
meeting
for
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started
now.
So
if
everybody
will
stand
and
join
me
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
A
All
right
well
done:
Miss
Vasquez.
Can
you
call
the
roll
please.
D
D
A
B
This
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments.
Registration
for
public
comments
is
available
for
those
wishing
to
address
the
traffic
commission
regarding
items
on
the
agenda
or
on
a
subject
within
the
city's
jurisdiction.
Speakers
for
specific
agenda
items
shall
be
called
and
heard
during
that
specific
item.
B
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
traffic
commission
as
a
whole.
Speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record
under
State
Law
Public
comment.
Matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
traffic
commission
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
engineer
for
administrative
follow-up.
B
A
Okay,
since
we
have
no
speakers
tonight,
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
forward
to
item
number
five
on
our
agenda,
which
is
the
summary
notes
from
our
April
20th
2022
meeting.
Do
any
of
the
Commissioners
have
any
comments
on
the
on
the
summary
notes
from
our
April
meeting?
A
Okay,
not
hearing
any,
we
can
move
along
to
item
number
six,
which
is
our
Engineers
reports.
Now
before
we
call
on
the
on
engineering
assistant,
Bradley
Eckert
to
present
our
first
report,
I
would
like
to
explain
the
flow
of
the
meeting
for
those
who
are
here
with
us
tonight
and
for
those
who
are
watching
on
on
our
on
our
streaming
cast
on
on
the
internet.
After
after
each
report,
the
public
is
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
to
speak
prior
to
the
traffic
Commissioners,
having
an
opportunity
to
comment
and
discuss
that
item.
A
If
we
have
speakers,
the
staff
will
share
a
list
of
registered
speakers
on
the
screen
and
we'll
start
we'll
start
calling
the
speakers
one
by
one.
May
we
please
have
assistant
engineer
Bradley
Eckert
present
the
first
report.
E
Thank
you,
chairman,
Emil
and
good
evening.
I
am
Bradley
ackert
and
I
work
in
the
Traffic
Division
of
Public
Works.
Today,
I'm
going
to
be
providing
the
commission
and
the
public
with
an
update
to
the
traffic
signal
priority
list.
This
list
contains
all
the
intersections
that
have
met
State
warrants
and
shows
the
next
intersection
that
may
receive
a
traffic
signal
once
it
is
budgeted
for
I'm
going
to
start
out
by
providing
an
overview
of
the
design
and
construction
of
a
new
signal.
E
I
will
present
the
California
state
warrants
in
place
that
show
the
minimum
traffic
volumes
required
to
permit
the
installation
of
a
new
signal,
and,
lastly,
I
will
explain
the
procedure
that
your
Traffic
Division
uses
to
figure
out
which
intersections
meet
those
warrants
and
what
our
most
current
list
looks
like.
Alright,
so,
let's
get
into
it,
I
want
to
provide
you
with
a
brief
overview
of
some
of
the
important.
D
F
E
All
right,
let's
thank
you
there
we
go
all
right,
so
I
want
to
provide
you
with
a
brief
overview
of
some
important
details
of
what
it
takes
to
build
a
new
signal.
There
are
currently
135
signals.
The
design
cost
for
a
new
signal
is
between
10
and
25
I'm,
sorry,
50
000.
The
construction
cost
is
between
400
and
450
000,
and
the
maintenance
for
that
signal
is
about
ten
thousand
dollars
a
year.
E
E
There
are
nine
different
warrants
to
see
if
a
traffic
traffic
signal
can
be
installed
at
an
intersection,
we
primarily
focus
on
warrant,
one
which
looks
at
eight
hour
traffic
volumes
to
determine
if
a
signal
is
needed.
There
are
three
conditions
under
warrant:
one
there's
condition
a
which
only
looks
at
the
minimum
volumes,
there's
condition
B,
which
provides
the
minimum
volumes.
E
E
One
thing
that
I
want
to
mention
is
that
the
status,
satisfaction
of
a
traffic
signal
warrant
or
warrants
shall
not
itself
require
the
installation
of
a
traffic
signal.
So
that
means
even
if
an
intersection
meets
the
warrant,
it
does
not
mean
we
must
construct
a
traffic
signal.
It
means
the
intersection
is
eligible
and
there
are
other
factors
used,
including
engineering
judgment
and
other
constraints.
E
Here
we
have
condition
a
so
once
we
figure
out
if
the
major
street
is
considered
rural
or
Urban,
we'll
look
at
the
number
of
approach
Lanes
to
determine
those
minimum
volumes
that
we
need.
The
number
that
you
see
in
parentheses
is
the
80
percent
is
eighty
percent
of
that
minimum
volume.
So
we
would
compare
the
minimum
volume
with
the
highest
eight
hours
that
we
receive
from
a
traffic
count.
E
The
next
slide
is
condition
B,
which
looks
at
the
interruption
of
continuous
traffic.
These
minimum
volumes
are
much
higher
for
the
major
Street
and
much
lower
for
the
minor
Street.
This
is
the
situation
where
you
have
so
much
traffic
flowing
on
the
major
street
that
a
driver's
never
find
a
gap
to
enter
traffic
from
the
minor
Street
same
thing.
Here
we
compare
the
minimum
volume
with
the
highest
eight
hours.
E
Here's
the
combination
warrant,
where
we
look
at
conditions,
A
and
B
to
see
if
the
major
and
minor
streets
met
80
of
the
required
volumes
for
this
warrant,
we
also
need
an
adequate
trial
of
Alternatives
that
could
cause
less
delay.
Well,
all
these
intersections
that
we
are
currently
studying
are
stop
sign
controlled,
so
we
know
that
the
second
part
has
already
been
met.
E
E
E
E
Once
we
have
the
traffic
counts
for
the
intersection,
we
can
compare
those
hourly
volumes
with
the
minimum
volumes
presented
in
the
warrant,
depending
on
how
those
volumes
Stack
Up
points
are
awarded
for
meeting
and
exceeding
those
minimum
volumes
for
each
of
the
warrants.
So
here
we
have
the
maximum
points
that
can
be
added
being
105..
Let's
dive
further
into
these
numbers
for
condition,
a
15
points
can
be
earned
by
eating
the
meeting,
the
volumes
for
both
the
minor
and
major
streets
for
eight
hours.
E
If
the
average
hourly
volume
exceeds
200
of
the
minimum,
an
additional
Five
Points
can
be
earned
for
both
the
major
and
minor
Street
same
thing
for
condition.
B
15
points
for
meeting
and
exceeding
the
minimum
volumes
for
all
eight
hours
and
five
additional
points.
If
the
average
hourly
volume
exceeds
200
percent.
E
This
is
the
combination
Warrant
Where
10
points
can
be
earned
if
both
the
major
and
minor
Street
meet
80
percent
of
the
minimum
volumes
in
both
warrants
A
and
B.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
an
intersection
can
earn
10
points
by
meeting
80
for
one
of
the
conditions,
but
in
order
to
meet
the
the
warrant
it
needs
to
meet
80
for
both.
E
E
E
These
are
the
hourly
traffic
counts
for
the
intersection
of
Avenida
De
Los
Arboles
at
Avenida,
De,
Las
plantas.
The
column
on
the
left
is
the
combined
total
for
the
major
Street,
which
this
case
is
Avenida
De,
Los
Arboles.
We
combine
both
directions
for
the
major
Street
and
determine
those
the
highest
eight
hours
which
I
have
highlighted
in
green.
Once
we
determine
the
highest
eight
hours
for
the
major
Street.
We
find
the
the
corresponding
hours
for
The
Miner
Street.
So
we
just
move
one
column
over
and
those
are
the
minor.
E
E
E
E
Since
all
four
exceed
80
volume,
they
meet
the
common
combination
warrant
as
well,
which
is
down
here
so
20.
More
points
were
added
because
the
combination
worm
was
met
and
then
we
move
on
to
the
Collision
history.
There's
been
one
correctable
Collision
during
a
continuous
12-month
period,
so
those
four
additional
points
were
added.
E
E
E
E
E
A
Mr
ackard.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
thorough
report.
Does
the
commission
have
any
questions
of
staff.
C
A
C
Great
yeah
I'll
ask
a
few
if
that's
okay,
Mr
chairman
sure,
okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
did
have
a
question.
If
we
go
to
attachment
two,
the
the
items
you
had
mentioned,
that
they
all
qualify
for
a
warrant
and
that's
because
it
and
if
I'm
interpreting
it
right
that
the
three
columns
you
have
are
warrant
a
warranty,
Warren,
A
and
B,
each
of
those
at
least
meet
one
of
those
to
where
that's
the
reason.
C
Why
they're
on
the
list
and
then
because
and
they
might
meet
two
or
three
of
them
and
then
that's
how
the
points
help
us
to
rank
it,
but
it's
because
they
do
meet.
At
least
one
of
those
warrants
that
you
have
listed
there
is
that
correct.
E
C
Perfect
so
then
the
one,
the
quick
thank
you
for
that
and
then
so.
The
one
question
I
have
I
think
in
this
might
be
a
question
for
a
number
of
Commissioners
but
number
10,
which
is
the
Wendy
and
Kimber
intersection
it.
C
The
double
asterisks
helped
me
understand
that
one
this
likely
had
been
presented
to
the
council
upwards
of
20
years
ago
and
they
provided
direction
to.
We
understand
that
that
could
probably
qualify
for
a
signal,
but
we
have
some
speeding
concerns
with
that
and
then.
Secondly,
the
data
we
have
that
indicates
that
it
meets
a
warrant
was
for
from
2013.
E
Thank
you
for
that
yeah.
So
as
far
as
the
city
council
Direction,
the
residents
were
concerned
that,
if
it
was,
it
was
sitting
on
greenball
at
that
intersection
and
people
were
coming
down.
The
hill
on
Wendy
they'd
be
coming
too
fast,
where,
if
we
have
a
stop
sign,
everyone
stops
everyone's
coming
and
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
and
then
the
other
question
was
about
2013
yeah.
Since
we
had
that
direction,
we
didn't
count
again
because
we
know
it
meets.
E
C
Okay,
that's
good
to
know
so
from
your
perspective,
at
least
from
when
the
council
provided
a
direction
in
2001,
and
then
this
latest
date
in
2013.,
hap,
I
I,
don't
think
they
have,
but
have
the
traffic
conditions
changed
at
all
in
that
period
from
from
when
when
that
direction
was
provided,
are
they
the
same
now
as
they
were
10
years
ago?.
G
Yeah
good
evening,
the
conditions
have
only
changed
because
we
modified
the
striping
to
the
south
of
Kimber.
So
then,
based
on
the
warrants
that
he
was
showing
you
because
the
land
configurations
it
would
modify
the
number
or
volume
which
actually
make
it
easier
to
qualify.
So
it'd
still
be
qualified
for
a
signal.
C
Perfect,
thank
you
there
in
my
last
question
on
this
I
completely
understand
I
I
used
to
live
in
the
area.
That's
a
three-way!
Stop
they're!
Actually,
residents
that
have
driveways
that
it
almost
looks
like
they
go
right
into
that
intersection.
C
I
I
can
see
that
you
know
there's
a
very
steep
downhill
climb
coming
right
into
that
intersection,
and
I
can
imagine
that
if
it
were
green,
that
you'd
have
a
pretty
consistent
excess
speed,
possibly
coming
through
that
intersection,
which
would
cause
resonance
concerns
are
there,
which
makes
complete
sense
if
you
had
to
weigh
free
flow
of
traffic
versus
speeding
to
when
there's
free
flow
of
traffic.
That's
where
the
council
provided
some
balance
of
saying:
let's,
let's
stick
with
the
current
conditions.
C
Are
there
are
there
technology
changes
that
have
occurred
in
traffic
traffic
lights
that
could
allow
for
in
conditions
where
there
is
not
a
lot
of
weighting
of
the
traffic
to
maybe
coming
off
of
Kimber
onto
Wendy
that
it
stays
as
a
flashing
red
which
is
effectively
the
same
conditions?
Now
it
would
be
a
stop
sign,
but
if
there
were
enough
enough
volume
to
allow
for
free
flow
of
traffic
and
then
there
would
be
Reds
on
on
Wendy
that
that
would
help
with
any
of
the
traffic
conditions.
C
I
just
don't
know,
because
when
those
or
you
know
one
is
out
of
viable
means
of
being
able
to
control
the
traffic
and
deal
with
the
the
stop,
the
the
traffic,
the
free
flow
through
Wendy
and
does
technology
enable
that
to
be
a
little
bit
better
than
it
might
have
been
20
years
ago.
E
Thank
you,
commissioner
Ferris.
Yes,
they
do
have
technology
to
have
a
signal
where
you
rest
on
red.
So
if
everyone
came
to
the
signal,
it's
red
all
the
way
around
and
once
the
detection
Zone,
though,
once
it
was
unloaded,
there's
a
car
there,
then
it
would
trigger
to
Green.
But
the
thing
is
like
we
went
over
the
overview,
450
000
for
essentially
a
stop
sign,
so
I,
don't
think
that
would
benefit
the
public.
C
C
That
would
that
would
be
the
only
the
only
benefit
of
having
a
traffic
sign
or
traffic
light
there
if
it
is,
if
it
is
the
purpose
of
the
traffic
I
use
only
to
allow
for
free
flow
of
traffic
on
through
the
Wendy
part
of
the
intersection,
and
the
concern
is
speeding
then
then
maybe
the
discussion
is
is
moot,
but
is
there
any
other
benefits
from
Kimber
traffic
under
entering
into
Wendy?
Well.
G
That
is
essentially
how
about
80
percent
of
our
signals
work.
Now
most
of
them
are
running
free,
so
the
main
road
would
stay
green
and
then
the
side
street,
once
it
gets
its
screen,
would
be
able
to
stay
free
flow
until
that
volume
is
there's,
no
more
volume
or
the
maximum
amount
of
time
has
been
achieved.
So
in
a
signal
there
are
two
different
timer
is
essentially
going
off
a
minimum
amount
of
time
and
a
maximum,
and
so
as
long
as
the
sensor
is
detecting
cars,
it
continues
that
flow
of
traffic.
G
E
A
G
C
G
C
A
D
G
D
Okay
and
on
the
the
the
cost
that
we
recorded,
50,
000
design
and
400
to
450,
is
all
that
is
all
that
done
outsourced
or
do
we
do
any
of
that
in-house?
Do
we
do
the
design
in-house
or
any
of
the
construction.
G
Yeah
we
haven't
designed
too
many
in-house
we've
done
a
couple,
but
primarily
they're
outsourced
and
a
lot
of
them
have
been
done
by
developers,
so
they
have
been
the
ones
to
design
them
or
we
go
out
for
design
ourselves
with
other
agencies.
Okay,.
D
E
G
G
Yeah
in
2016
it
was
the
top
ranked
one
and
just
for
as
a
matter
of
fact
so
was
well.
Let's
see
number
six
was
plantus
and
arbolus
and
it
was
ranked
number
six,
but
because
we
had
a
design
change
to
the
striping
out
there
to
one
lane
it
was
able
to
bump
up
to
number
one.
That's
why
it's
now
number
one,
because
there's
only
one
lane,
eastern
western
arbolus.
So
that's
why
we
look
at
these
every
couple
years,
because
conditions
can
change
and
have
changed.
D
H
Just
a
few
questions,
thank
you.
Mr,
chair
first
off.
Thank
you
for
the
report.
I
thought
it
was
the
most
for
those
of
playing
along
at
home
is
probably
the
most
easily
digestible
way
to
explain
lights
and
why
we
do
the
way
things
that
we
do
at
the
city.
So
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
that
I
mean
it's
not
an
easy
task
to.
You
know
get
that
information
out
there
for
the
public
to
digest
it
and
I
thought
you
did
a
tremendous
job.
H
G
So
those
are
the
ones
that
are
more
easily
to
understand
a
couple
of
them.
We
don't
even
really
look
at
because
they
wouldn't
really
meet.
For
instance,
the
at
grade
crossing
is
for
railroads.
We
don't
have
that.
So
there's
not
really
a
need
to
look
at
that
one
and
some
of
the
other
warrants
aren't
really
needed,
but
if
it
can
meet,
then
we
certainly
do
look
at
them.
But,
generally
speaking
as
a
general
rule,
the
other
conditions
aren't
met
or
they're
too
difficult
to
meet.
Okay.
H
And
just
as
turning
to
your
attachment
to
the
table
kind
of
piggybacking
off
of
the
commissioner's
question
regarding
Kimber
and
Wendy,
has
there
been
a
desire
or
has
staff
taken,
that
signal
back
informational
item?
Call
it
what
it
is
back
to
city
council
to
kind
of
get
further
Direction
and
consideration,
considering
it's
been
21
years
since
really
council's,
given
that
direction
on
what
to
do.
H
Okay,
I
just
want
just
in
looking
at
the
just
just
by
ranking.
Just
looking
at
the
point,
total
I
mean
it
kind
of
holds
that
number
10
slot,
but
you
look
at
the
overall
points
and
it
would
but
for
that
consideration,
I
would
think
I
mean
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
get
boosted
up
the
list,
wouldn't
it
if
you're
ranking
it
via
points.
G
It
would,
but
you
know
again
if
they
don't
want
it,
there's
not
a
lot
of
need
to
look
at
it.
We
do
it
just
more
of
a
data
process
just
to
know
where
it
would
rank,
but
that's
why
we
have
it
at
the
bottom,
because
we
don't
want
it
to
get
construed
with.
Where
it
is
I
mean
you
can
kind
of
see
where
it
would
fit
yeah
within
the
numbers
as
to
where
it
would
fit.
G
H
Thank
you,
I
just
wanted
to
get
kind
of
an
understanding
of
what
the
process
would
be
21
years
later.
I
guess
on
that
particular
intersection.
H
Just
a
quick
final
question:
how
important
in
determining
signals
would
be
from
changes
to
a
roadway
or
changes
to
I
mean
a
school
that
revamped
the
way
that
they
do
their
parking
lot
or
a
new
development
coming
in
and
obviously
there's
it
would
tie
into
the
overall
development
agreement.
Sure,
but
I
guess
piggybacking
off
of
commissioner
Hayek's
question
in
a
way
is:
is
those
are?
How
are
those
changing
circumstances
considered
when
staff
analyzes,
where
to
put
signals.
G
Well,
we
generally
look
at
any
place
that
or
any
citizen
that
calls
up
if
it's
if
we
haven't
already
looked
at
it,
we'll
look
at
it.
If
it's
been
requested,
we'll
look
at
it
and
do
the
analysis
and
then
from
there
gets
put
on
to
or
that's
why
Bradley
was
saying
that
we
had
23
that
were
monitoring,
but
only
10
have
met.
So
if,
if
a
development
came
in,
they
would
look
at
it
generally
their
staff
and
run
it
through
us.
H
Okay
and
then
just
a
a
final
question,
I
think
when,
when
citizens
think
of
a
traffic
signal,
they
think
it's,
you
know
a
cut
and
paste
idea
and
450
000
for
construction,
50
000
for
design.
Can
you
just
walk
me?
I
mean
walk
me
through
to
that
money.
H
So
much
just
kind
of:
why
does
it?
Why
does
it
cost
so
much
because
I
think
it's
it's
I
think
the
average
citizen
may
get
a
little
sticker
shock
when
in
thinking
that
these
are
mass
produced
and
can
easily
I
mean
staff
just
goes
out
there
and
hangs
it
up
no
problem,
but
that's
not
the
reality
of
the
situation.
Right.
G
Yeah
so
when
I
started
about
30
years
ago,
actually
32,
if
you
want
to
be
technical,
there
were
about
70
75
000,
to
build
a
signal.
So
just
over
the
years
has
anything
else
has
gone
up
so
have
signals
you
have
from
the
design.
You
have
a
lot
more
materials
back
then
we
did
not
have
video
detection.
We
did
not
have
preemptors
for
ambulance
fire
police.
G
The
conduit
has
gotten
more
expensive.
The
polls
themselves
have
gone
up
significantly
the
some
of
the
designs.
So
if
you
go
over
to
the
newest
one
over
at
arborist
and
Kensington,
those
polls
are
about
almost
literally
twice
the
size
as
the
size
of
a
pole
built
in
2010..
Therefore,
the
materials
are
bigger.
The
foundation
is
substantially
bigger.
That
used
to
be
basically
a
three
by
eight
hole
for
that.
Foundation
is
now
about
four
feet
by
15
feet.
So
when
a
vehicle
hits
it
that's,
why
they
don't
move
they're
there,
and
so
they
are
they've.
G
H
Okay,
no
I
mean
that's
that's
per
exactly
what
I
was
looking
for,
just
kind
of
getting
an
idea
of
Technology
improvements
and
something
that
I
think
we've
all
discussed
up
here.
Previous
so
you're,
just
saying
when
you're
driving
don't
have
a
accident
and
hit
a
pole,
I
mean
I
that
just
doesn't
sound.
A
I
think
I
think
that
the
slides
that
depicted
the
the
correctable
Collision
versus
the
uncorrectable
Collision
were
really
helpful,
but
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
if
I
understand
correctly,
a
correctable
collision
is
one
which,
if
they're
the
premises,
if
there
had
been,
if
that
had
been
a
controlled
intersection,
that
type
of
collision
would
not
have
been
likely.
Is
that
correct.
E
So
both
of
those
correctable
Collision
types
are
like
a
right.
There's
a
right-of-way
issue
there,
the
person
didn't
know
who
was
up
essentially
so
yes,
exactly
the
signal
was
there,
it
wouldn't
have
happened
because
somebody
would
have
had
a
protected
left
and
someone
would
have
had
a
green
ball
or
One.
Direction
has
red
and
One
Direction
as
green.
You
know
what
I
mean
for
a
right
right
angle,
Collision.
A
Sure
so
so
the
the
traffic
signal
would
have
likely
eliminated
confusion
regarding
right-of-way,
correct.
A
One
final,
one,
final
question:
when
it
comes
to
the
Collision
warrant,
my
understanding
is
that
you
look
at
the
total
number
of
correctable
collisions
within
a
continuous
12-month
period
over
a
36
month,
term
and
and
I'm,
assuming
that
what
you're
doing
is
you're
looking
at
the
highest
you're
taking
the
highest
number
of
correctable
accidents
within
a
continuous
12-month
period
within
that
three-year
larger
period.
Is
that
right.
A
B
A
D
G
Oh
sure,
like
I,
said
before
any
any
citizen
entity
can
request,
and
we
can
look
at
that
and
if
it
meets
one
of
the
other
warrants
based
on
its
locations,
because
each
location
can
be
different
in
and
of
itself,
obviously
something
on
Thousand,
Oaks
Boulevard
would
be
different
than
Moore
Park.
G
That
would
be
different
from
Wendy,
so
we
look
at
each
one
of
those
individually
and
based
on
the
request,
we'll
look
at
it
and
see
if
it
meets
generally
these
four
warrants
and
if
there
is
some
other
outside
condition
that
would
meet
one
of
the
other
warrants,
then
we
would
certainly
look
at
it.
So
for
an
example,
let's
say
up
on
Rancho
Canal,
where
Amazon
went
in.
G
D
G
G
I
mean
we
would
look
at,
we
do
counts
during
school
times.
We
don't
do
it
during
the
summer,
so
we
wouldn't
go
out
and
do
accounts
in,
and
we
also
don't
do
it
basically
during
the
holiday
months
of
Thanksgiving
to
January
1..
So
we
have
a
kind
of
a
small
window
to
to
do
the
counts.
But
if
we
have
that
request,
we
would
do
that
at
an
appropriate
time
to
count
a
location
that
has
changed
again.
For
instance,
at
arbolus
implantis,
the
the
lane
configuration
changed
and
over
the
course
of
a
couple
years.
G
We
knew
that
that
was
on
our
list,
and
so
we
do
our
counts,
like
we
were
saying,
maybe
in
2024
again
and
we
would
re-prioritize
those.
So
if
those
come
in
or
other
requests,
we
would
look
at
those
requests
over
the
next
couple
years
and
then
reassess
based
on
what
has
come
in
at
any
given
location
throughout
the
city.
D
I
I,
don't
maybe
I'm,
not
maybe
I'm,
not
understanding
I'm.
My
my
question
was:
if,
if
an
entrance
and
exit,
let's
say
in
a
school
or
a
shopping
center,
whatever
is
didn't
exist
before
but
now
exists.
D
F
Wanted
to
check
the
mic?
Yes,
not
our
city
engineer
in
those
cases
when
you're
talking
about
about
private
on-site
modifications
or
developments.
Those
are
typically
analyzed
during
that
design
process
or
during
the
entitlement
process
in
many
in
most
cases,
when
there's
there's
modification
going
on
so
that
any
changes
that
are
needed
can
be
folded
into
the
project
and
not
trail
behind.
Typically,
we
wouldn't
open
a
shopping.
F
They'll,
have
a
shopping
center
open
and
then
monitor
it
for
a
couple
years,
and
then
you
know
do
something
about
it
after
the
fact,
and
it
would
be
the
opposite.
The
shopping
center
would
be
conditioned
to
install
the
traffic
signal
as
part
of
their
project
design,
and
it
would
be
you
know,
a
part
of
the
entitlement
so
that
the
signals
operational
once
the
the
center
comes
online.
So
that's
typically
how
they're
those
are
handled.
F
They're,
they're
evaluated
the
applicant
reimburses
or
pays
for
a
traffic
study
to
be
done,
which
will
then
indicate
what
what
patterns
are
going
to
change
and
what
the
new
volumes
are
going
to
be
and
what
the
new
requirements
might
be
and
based
on
that
traffic
study.
F
That
might
that
should
identify
the
warrants
which
may
or
may
not
require
the
signal
to
be
built,
and
then
we
would
work
with
them
to
in
that
design
and
construction
of
the
signal,
but
for
the
most
part
that
that
construction,
because
it's
being
prompted
or
generated
or
that
that
new
volume
is
being
you
know,
created
from
that
new
on-site
development.
That
would
be
the
the
developer
would
construct
it.
As
Robert
mentioned
earlier,
a
good
portion
of
our
traffic
signal
and
half
of
them,
or
so
or
roughly,
were
probably
built
by
developers
over
the
years.
C
A
Okay,
so
we
we
have
now
arrived
at
a
point
where
we
have
no
public
speakers.
The
public
comments
time
has
come
and
gone
going
once
going
twice
going
three
times:
we,
okay,
we
have
no
further
questions
for
staff.
Since
this
is
an
action
item,
we
don't
I,
don't
believe
that
we
need
a
motion
to
receive.
The
report.
Is
that
correct?
This
was
just
an
educational
item
see,
and
so
you
know,
there's
nothing
like
an
educational
item,
like
traffic
signals
to
light
a
room
on
fire.
So
this
will
teach
you
a
lesson
next
time.
A
Don't
don't
bring
this
so
so
I
mean
we
don't
need
emotion,
no
vote
required
right.
We
we
have
received
the
report
we've,
given
you
our
input,
and
so
we
are
now
free
to
move
on
to
item
6B
right,
okay,
so
moving
on
now
we
have
a
second
Engineers
report
from
Transportation
planner
Kathy.
Now.
I
I
Foreign
okay,
thank
you,
chair
Mel.
The
item
before
you
is
a
status
report
on
the
city's
active
Transportation
program.
Grant
applications
submitted
to
the
state
for
two
projects:
the
projects
focus
on
pedestrian
bicycle
improvements
for
a
segment
of
Lynn
Road
and
a
segment
on
Hillcrest
Drive.
I
The
call
for
projects
was
sent
out
by
Caltrans
in
March.
The
amount
of
available
funding
has
increased
over
the
years,
and
this
year
there
are
650
million
dollars
available.
Statewide
the
goals
of
the
active
Transportation
program
or
the
ATP
includes
increasing
the
number
of
trips
made
by
by
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
I
We
were
also
awarded
an
ATP
Grant
to
construct
bike,
Lanes
sidewalk
radar
feedback
signs
and
a
pedestrian
Crossing
on
Willow
Lane,
the
same
ATP
Grant
provided
funding
to
construct
bike
lanes
and
sidewalks
on
Canary
School
Road
City
staff
submitted
two
ATP
Grant
applications.
This
year,
application
number
one
was
for
Lynn
Road,
Bike
lanes
and
pedestrian
improvements
and
application.
Number
two
was
for
Hillcrest
Drive
bike
lanes
and
pedestrian
improvements.
I
Both
projects
are
identified
in
the
cities
adopted
2019,
active
Transportation
plan,
the
Lynn,
Road
Bike
lanes
and
pedestrian
Improvement
project
is
also
identified
in
the
city's
adopted
2021
local
Road
Safety
plan.
Both
the
active
Transportation
plan
and
the
local
Road
Safety
plan
serve
as
a
blueprint
for
the
city
and
identified
target
areas
for
infrastructure
improvements
that
would
benefit
all
Road
users,
specifically
pedestrian
and
bicyclists
yeah.
I
The
Lynn
Road
bridge
over
the
101
has
no
bike
Lanes.
This
is
a
view
traveling
Northbound
over
the
101
towards
the
Oaks
Mall
traveling
Northbound.
There
are
three
through
Lanes
in
the
left
turn
lane
there's
also
a
sidewalk
and
a
safety
fence.
Caltrans
includes
fencing
on
Bridges,
where
there
are
sidewalks.
I
This
is
a
picture
of
Lynn
Road.
As
you
approach
the
bridge,
traveling
southbound
next
to
the
median
is
the
number
one
lane
which
is
the
through
Lane.
The
number
two
lane
in
the
middle
is
a
shared
through
and
right
turn
lane,
and
the
number
three
lane
on
the
right
is
a
right
turn
only
lane
when
a
cyclist
is
crossing
the
bridge,
they
use
the
Middle
Lane.
It
must
negotiate
Vehicles
turning
onto
the
freeway
continuing
the
same
direction.
This
is
the
southbound
view
of
the
Lynn
Road
Bridge,
where
there
are
two
travel
Lanes.
I
I
The
six
main
elements
of
the
project
include
striping
class
4
bike
Lanes,
which
will
require
reducing
the
number
of
lanes
on
the
bridge
from
three
to
two,
installing
a
bicycle
signal
phase
at
the
Northbound
on-ramp,
installing
new
safety,
fencing
on
the
west
side
of
the
bridge
and
replace
the
existing
fencing
on
the
east
side,
installing
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons
with
advanced
warning
beacons
on
the
southbound
ramps.
A
new
pedestrian
light
lighting
on
the
bridge
adjacent
to
the
existing
sidewalk.
I
Here
are
a
few
examples
of
what
a
class
4
bike
lane
looks
like
the
photo
on
the
right
is
what
has
been
installed
around
Los
Angeles.
The
photos
on
the
left
are
from
New
York
City
and
civil
Seville
Spain.
The
main
difference
between
a
class
II
buffered
bike
lane
and
a
class
4
bike
lane
is
the
installation
of
a
vertical
device
that
separates
the
bike
lane
from
vehicle
traffic.
I
The
total
estimated
cost
of
the
project
is
3.352
million.
The
grant
request
is
about
78
percent
of
the
total
crop
cost
of
the
2.6
million
total
cost
or
2.6
million,
which
will
cover
the
cost
of
construction.
City
staff
will
request
the
city
contribution
of
750
000
be
included
as
part
of
the
upcoming
budget
process.
The
city's
contribution
will
cover
the
cost
of
the
environmental
review
and
the
project
design.
I
The
second
project
is
the
Hillcrest
Drive
bike
lanes
and
pedestrian
Improvement
project,
which
is
located
on
Hillcrest
Drive
between
Lynn
Road
and
Moorpark,
Road
adjacent
to
the
Oaks
and
the
Jans
malls.
The
limits
of
the
new
bike
lanes
are
Lynn.
Road
to
Hillcrest
are,
are
Lynn
Road
to
Hillcrest
most
I'm,
not
saying
that
right
limits
of
the
new
bike
lanes
are
Lynn
Road
to
Moorpark
Moore
Park,
most
of
Hillcrest
Drive
from
Camino
Dos
Rios
to
Westlake.
I
I
The
limits
of
the
sidewalk
project
are
between
Lynn
Road
and
McLeod
Avenue
between
Moorpark
Road
and
Lynn
Road
Hillcrest
Drive
is
currently
striped
with
two
to
three
travel
Lanes
in
each
Direction
it
raised
meeting
thinner
median
and
the
posted
speed
limit
is
45
miles
per
hour.
The
missing
bike
Lanes
within
the
project
limits,
make
it
challenging
for
bicyclists
to
ride
between
the
East
and
West
ends
of
the
city.
This
is
the
section
adjacent
to
the
Jan
small.
I
This
is
the
section
adjacent
to
the
Oaks
Mall
going
in
the
westbound
Direction
a
sidewalk
exists
on
both
sides
of
Hillcrest
Drive,
except
for
the
segment
between
Lynn,
Road
and
McLeod.
There
is
a
sidewalk
on
the
South
Side
within
the
project
limits,
because
Hillcrest
Drive
has
neither
a
bike
lane
or
shoulder.
Pedestrians
cannot
and
they
should
not
walk
on
the
street
in
this
section.
I
I
I
The
total
estimated
cost
for
the
project
is
2.84
million.
The
grant
request
is
about
79.
Of
the
total
costs
are
2.25
million,
which
will
cover
the
cost
of
construction.
City
staff
will
request
the
city
contribution
of
490
000
be
included
as
part
of
the
upcoming
budget
process.
The
city's
contribution
will
cover
the
cost
of
the
environmental
review
and
project
design.
I
The
call
for
projects
went
out
in
March.
Public
Outreach
was
conducted
in
April
at
the
city's
Arbor
Earth
Day
celebration
in
the
Rams
trophy
Tour
event.
The
applications
were
submitted
in
June
and
we
hope
to
hear
back
in
October
or
November
that
we
have
been
awarded
the
grant
for
either
or
both
projects.
I
A
H
Thank
you
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
the
presentation.
A
couple
questions
on
the
I
realize
it's,
it's
a
it's
a
really
early
question,
because
design
and
everything's
so
far
down
the
line,
but
in
terms
of
to
use
the
for
you
set
the
world
on
fire.
When
word
got
out
that
possible
class.
Four
bike
Lanes
may
be
coming
to
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
I'm,
just
curious.
H
I
We've,
given
it
quite
a
bit
of
thought,
because
you
have
to
provide
a
cost
estimate
in
the
Grant
application
and
so
depending
on
which
device
we
want
to
go
with,
it
has
to
be
included
in
the
Grant
application
and
so
like
the
least
expensive.
One
are
the
delineators
that
are
plastic
delineators
to
the
most
expensive
ones
or
something
we
wouldn't,
because
it
would
be
large
planters
that
would
require
watering
and
they'd
be
a
big,
concrete
planner.
So
we're
looking
at
on
an
on
the
lower
end,
probably
delineators,
but
also
possibly
some
raised
curbs.
I
So
it
breaks
up
that
whole
view
of
the
delineators
we're
talking
to
other
agencies.
If
anyone
knows
the
Sixth
Street
Bridge
just
put
a
class
4
in
and
that
has
those
are
raised,
curbs
with
some
delineator.
So
it's
all
brand
new,
it's
but
yeah
we're
giving
it
some
thought
into
when
it
goes
to
the
design.
It'll
really
have
to
do
with
the
budget,
how
much
money
we
we
get
as
a
grant
and
then,
if
it's
not
within
the
grant
budget,
then
we'd
have
to
ask
the
council
to
appropriate
the
funds
for
it.
H
That's
amazing
I'm,
just
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that
we're
going
after
these
grants
for
these
two
projects.
Just
one
final
question-
and
this
just
comes
from
some
of
the
work
I've
done
in
the
past,
but
regarding
the
missing
sidewalk
between
Lynn
and
McLeod,
are
we
going
to
have
to
do
any?
H
Okay,
good
because
I've
I've
done
those
Acquisitions
before
and
they're,
not
they're,
not
fun.
Well,
good
I
have
no
further
questions.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair.
A
A
So
so
you
were
talking
about
a
class
two
bike
lane
and
then
a
class
two
buffered
bike
lane
and
then
and
then
it
went
to
class
four.
Is
there
such
thing
as
a
class?
Three?
Yes,.
I
So
I'll
explain
all
we
have
there's
four
classes
class.
One
is
a
completely
off
street
bike
path,
similar
to
the
Canary
Creek
South
bike
path,
that's
by
the
school
district
office
class.
Two
is
it's
just
striping
and
signage,
so
you
could
have
a
a
stripe
that
says
it
says:
bike
lane
and
now
or
a
buffer,
but
it's
all
flat.
It's
just
paint
class
three
or
just
signs.
They
say
bike
route,
they're,
usually
good
if
somebody's
riding-
and
they
know
if
they
turn
on
the
street
they're
not
going
to
hit
a
cul-de-sac.
I
I
So
it
what
we
have
on
Lynn
Road,
which
has
been
currently
striped
with
the
summer
pavement
program,
is
a
two
because
it's
a
bike
lane
with
the
buffer
there's
no
vertical
delineation,
but
the
class
4
adds
the
vertical
but
yeah
it's
funny
because
they
added
the
class
four
in
the
last
couple
years.
So
they
only
had
one
two
three:
they
couldn't
do
like
2.5,
but
that's
kind
of
that's.
What
class
four?
Is
it
it's
a?
It's
should
be
bumped
up
higher
than
the
class
three,
but
that's
how
they
numbered
them.
I
City
or
just
a
little
baby,
one
going
in
on
Rancho
Road
between
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
and
the
101.
It's
the
new
project,
that's
going
in
and
there's
it's
right
at
the
Northbound
ramp
as
you
pass
Taco
Bell,
you
could
say
it's
currently:
it's
almost
the
signal
is
going
to
be
modified
and
and
should
be
finished
up
soon.
But
that's
right
now,
our
only
class
four.
A
I
What
it
is
by
because
there's
three
lanes
in
each
Direction
by
reducing
the
number
of
lanes
to
two
lanes,
we
have
the
width
of
an
entire
Lane,
so
we
have
11
feet
so
to
look
at
it
and
say:
okay,
we
could
do
just
a
class
two
with
a
buffer,
but
while
we're
out
there,
why
don't
we
make
it
even
safer?
I
The
volumes
are
there,
the
speeds
are
there
has
a
curve
in
the
road
it'll,
just
anything
to
make
a
cyclist
feel
safer
out
there
and
get
a
higher
different
range
of
Ages
and
abilities
to
cycle.
That's
the
goal.
It's
called.
It's
called
Eight
to
eighty.
You
want
to
design
everything
for
an
eight-year-old
to
an
80
year
old,
so
oh
yeah,
yeah,
plus,
hopefully
it's
more
competitive
but.
A
It's
a
good
good
reason:
yeah
Adam
secretary.
Do
we
have
any
speakers
on
this
report.
B
A
Yeah
close
the
close,
the
public
comment
section
here
and
then,
if
if
there
are
any
remaining
items
for
discussion
on
behalf
of
the
commission,
we
can
we
can
do
that
now.
If.
H
A
H
Just
as
a
as
a
quick
follow-up
is
there
anything
is
there
anything
that
the
public
can
do?
Is
the
city
staff
looking
for
any
engagement
feedback,
thoughts,
comments
about
you
know
what
what's
proposed
in
the
grant
program?
I
mean
how
can
softball
question
here?
How
can
the?
How
can
the
the
our
bike
Community
get
more
involved
in
providing
any
feedback
or
help
to
staff
on
on
this
I
know,
I
know:
there's
a
lot
of
people
excited
out
there
and
I
want
to.
H
You
know
possibly
help
channel
that
towards
positive
feedback
staff
can
use
so.
I
What's
interesting
is
that
this
this
application
process
is
over
because
we
already
submitted
it
there's
two
applications
that
are
currently
open:
the
hi-hsi
hsip
hsip,
the
highway
safety
Improvement
program
and
also
CMAC
congestion
management.
Air
quality
I
am
submitting
Grant
applications
for
both
of
those
grants,
because
if
we
don't
get
these,
we
still
need
money
to
build
them
so
anytime.
Anyone
out
the
community
wants
to
contact
me
or
the
city
or
or
tweet
or
Facebook.
Anything
on
social
media
that
supports
cycling.
I
can
use
that
as
part
of
my
Grant
application.
So
perfect.
H
C
Thank
you,
so
I
think
you
were.
You
were
asking
for
more
questions,
so
I
I
figured
I'd
indulge
a
couple
couple
things
I
just
wanted
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
so
correct
me.
If
my
memory
is
Maybe
in
cricket
I
feel
like
did.
We
have
a
previous
Hearing
in
which
the
traffic
commission
entertained
the
reduction
of
striping
Lanes
on
Hillcrest,
because
we
sort
of
evaluated.
I
These
bike
Lanes
so
as
part
of
the
original
pavement
program,
this
part
of
Hillcrest
was
in
the
pavement
program,
but
it
was
removed.
So
we
did
all
this
public
Outreach
for
reducing
it
from
three
to
two
lanes
and
even
back
then
we
weren't
talking
about
doing
a
class
four.
We
were
doing
a
buffered
bike
lane
and
since
it
wasn't
part
of
this
year's
pavement
program,
we
now
can
do
a
Grant
application
for
it
again.
I
So
in
two
years
let's
say
we
don't
get
any
funding
the
payment
program's
still
going
to
go
forward,
we'll
probably
put
in
a
buffered
bike
lane
reduce
the
lanes
and
then
because
that's
all
no
extra
costs,
it's
just
putting
these
the
delineators
in
that'll
be
a
cost
that
we'll
have
to
ask
the
council
to
appropriate
funding.
But,
yes,
you
have
a
very
good
memory.
You
saw.
I
And
that
was
all
part
of
the
grant.
We
did
so
much
Outreach
to
to
your
I
guess
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
You
know
we
had
we
had
Zoom
meetings
and
we
we
there
was
changeable
message
signs
about
telling
everyone
we
were
going
to
have
these
meetings
and
people
participate.
We
had
online
surveys,
we
did
mailings
to
the
adjacent
Property
Owners,
so
we
have
all
this
data
that
supports
reducing
the
number
of
lanes,
but
then,
when
the
pro
that
part
of
the
payment
project
didn't
go
forward
right.
C
Okay
and
then
the
the
second
part
was
I
was
you
were
describing
sort
of
if
I
remember
right,
it's
the
southbound
Lin
intersection
at
one
in
which
we
don't
really
have
any
bike.
Lanes
you're
saying
that,
like
the
the
cyclists
need
to
kind
of
like
navigate
the
center
lane
to
cross
traffic,
as
people
are
trying
to
make
the
right
turn
onto
the
101.
C
I
I
It's
part
of
the
local
Road
Safety
plan
that
was
done
in
2021..
So
if
you
pictures
you're
going
Southbound,
there's
there's
Sprouts
on
the
right,
so
the
bike
lane
there's
there's
currently
a
an
equestrian
path
that
goes
to
Nowhere.
There's
this
dirt
path.
That
would
become
a
class
four,
so
the
cyclist
would
come
up
on
the
equestrian
path
that
would
be
paved.
I
There
would
be
a
bicycle
signal
that
they
would
push
and
it
would
hold
the
free
rights
onto
the
freeway
and
so
that
those
are
that's
the
main
conflict
point
trying
not
to
negotiate
those
and,
as
you
may
as
you're,
well
aware,
as
people
who
turn
right
on
freeway
start
to
accelerate.
So
that's
always
really
sketchy
so
they'll.
That
signal
is
part
of
the
design
and
then,
when
they
cross
over
then
there's
a
class.
Four
event
is
in
the
picture.
I
C
The
the
cyclists
will
have
the
ability
to
control
the
intersection
for
their
passing
over
the
over
this
on-ramp
item
and
then
have
a
class
four
protected
to.
F
Yeah
and
if
I
might
add
that's
how
the
Rancho
Road
project
that
she
was
alluding
to
earlier
has
been
designed.
There's
going
to
be
a
separate,
you
know
signalization
for
the
bicycle,
if
that
they
depressed
that,
so
that
they
have
their
own
green
and
it
holds
the
free
right
going
northbound
temporarily,
while
the
bicycle
hole
clears.
A
All
right
any
more
questions
for
staff
on
this
report.
Okay,
I
see
none
Miss
numb.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
report.
Moving
on
now
to
item
seven
we
have
the
the
status
report
regarding
prior
traffic.
Commission
recommendations
is
that
a
status
report
that's
provided
by
staff
yeah.
F
There's
no
verbal
report.
We
just
listed
three
items
under
item
seven
just
to
let
you
know
that
what
we
talked
about
at
the
last
commission
meeting
for
the
the
the
crossing
guard
program,
the
speed
hunt
policy
and
the
stop
sign
proposals.
They
were
all
heard
on
June
the
14th.
F
The
only
item
that
did
not
pass
was
the
crossing
guard
program
and
that's
going
to
be
looked
at
again
on
August
30th
this
this
year
and
I've
provided
in
terms
of
the
speed
hump
policy,
a
copy
of
the
final
policy.
It
was
given
a
number
resolution
2009,
you
know
to
2022-25
and
there's
a
hard
copy
before
you.
A
Which
we've
received
and
thank
you
for
that,
and
and
thank
you
for
the
status
report
as
well.
Moving
on
to
item
number
eight
commission
referrals
from
April
20th
2022.
We
we
have
none
item
number,
eight
work
program
and
commission
schedule.
A
Do
the
Commissioners
have
any
questions
for
staff
on
that
subject:
nothing:
okay!
We've
now
reached
agenda
item
number
10
traffic
commission
comments.
A
Anything
we
have
nothing
and
I
guess
we're
ready
to
adjourn
this
meeting.
So
we
will
now
adjourn
the
July
20th
2022
meeting
of
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission.
The
next
meeting
to
be
held
at
6
pm
on
September
21
2022
in
the
boardroom
of
the
Civic
Arts
Plaza
on
the
third
floor,
since
committees,
commissions
and
boards
are
dark
during
the
month
of
August
again.
Thank
you
very
much,
much
appreciated
with
the
with
the
reports
tonight.
Thank
you.