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Traffic and Transportation Advisory Commission Meeting - April 20, 2022
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All
right,
hello,
everybody!
We
are
about
ready
to
begin
our
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
committee
meeting
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody
to
the
april
20th
2022
meeting
of
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission.
Please
join
me
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
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Speakers
for
specific
agenda
items
shall
be
called
and
heard
during
that
specific
item.
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
traffic
commission
as
a
whole.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record
under
state
law.
Public
comment
matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
traffic
commission
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
engineer
for
administrative
follow-up.
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Okay,
hearing
no
comments:
we
can
move
to
item
number
six,
which
is
our
engineers
reports.
So
before
I
call
on
city
city,
engineer,
nader
hidari
to
present
the
first
report,
I
would
like
to
explain
the
flow
of
the
meeting
for
the
benefit
of
those
watching
and
the
residents
who
registered
to
speak
under
this
meeting's
engineers
reports.
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After
each
report,
the
public
will
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
prior
to
the
traffic
commission
discussion
of
the
item.
If
we
have
speakers,
staff
will
share
a
list
of
registered
speakers
on
the
screen
and
start
calling
the
speakers
one
by
one.
So
may
we
please
request
the
city
engineer
nader
haidari,
to
present
the
first
report.
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E
The
program
currently
has
two
supervising
crossing
guards,
22
regular
guards
and
one
substitute
guard.
Most
schools
have
one
crossing
location,
but
ladera
and
lang
ranch
have
two
guards:
acacia
and
redwood
share
a
location
and
kalina.
Als
also
has
a
two
guards
assigned
to
one
location
due
to
the
unique
needs
of
that
intersection
with
vehicle
and
pedestrian
volumes
and
length
of
the
crossing
and
curvature
of
the
street.
E
The
program
has
had
roughly
the
same
number
of
crossing
guard
locations
for
the
past.
10
years
as
a
result
of
declining
enrollment
in
the
canada
valley,
unified,
school
district
and
other
factors,
staff
continues
to
monitor
the
program.
There
have
been
no
changes
to
the
program
since
the
to
2019
school
year,
due
in
part
to
pandemic
impacts.
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E
In
order
to
qualify
for
a
crossing
guard,
a
location
must
meet
the
city's
minimum
guidelines
for
both
pedestrian
and
automobile
volumes
during
am
and
pm
school
peak
school
periods.
That
means
there
needs
to
be
at
least
20
school
pedestrians
crossing
at
least
300
vehicles
in
conflict
with
those
pedestrians
in
the
am
and
pm
peak
hours,
in
order
to
qualify
for
consideration
of
a
crossing
guard,
regardless
of
the
type
of
traffic
traffic
control.
E
E
No
other
changes
are
recommended.
We
had
only
one
request
this
year
for
a
new
crossing
guard
at
michael
and
borchardt.
However,
that
location
was
discontinued
at
the
previous
instance
three
years
ago,
in
and
19
and
site
observations
have
shown,
there's
virtually
no
pedestrians
crossing
at
that
location.
E
So
here's
the
the
the
five
locations
that
are
being
recommended
for
changes
at
the
upcoming
school
year
for
2022
2023,
starting
in
august,
we'll
go
through
and
discuss
each
one
now
and
and
here's
the
detail
for
those
five
locations.
Just
so
you
can
see
on
one
graphic
and
the
items
in
red
are
where
their
the
counts
fail
to
meet
the
minimum
standards.
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E
As
you
can
see,
these
locations
do
not
meet
the
minimum
pedestrian
standards,
which
is
the
last
two
columns
on
the
right,
and
many
of
them
also
fall
short
on
some
or
all
of
the
minimum
vehicle
standards.
As
a
result,
none
of
these
five
locations
meet
the
requirements
that
are
needed
to
qualify
for
a
crossing
guard.
E
E
And
again
from
the
counts,
banyan
also
has
less
than
six
pedestrians
crossing
in
both
the
am
and
the
pm
hours,
which
is
well
short
of
the
20
needed,
and
this
campus
has
also
been
without
a
crossing
guard
for
for
most
of
the
year
again
due
to
staffing
shortages
in
the
labor
market.
And
there
are
no
active
requests
or
complaints.
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Can
I
ask
you
just
a
quick
question?
Yes,
did
you
compare
any
of
the
auto
or
the
vehicle
accounts
and
the
reason
why
I'm
wondering
is
I'm
wondering,
as
parents
drop
their
kids
off
to
school,
do
they
we
lose
them
in
the
pedestrian
account,
but
our
car
count
has
gone
up
and
when
you
count
pedestrians,
I'm
assuming
you're,
counting
all
pedestrians
or
just
those
that
are
school-aged.
E
We
actually
are
counting
all
pedestrians,
even
though
the
the
strict
standard
says
it
you
know,
should
only
be
the
student,
but
no
we're
counting
all
pedestrians
that
are
going
to
the
school
they're
just
running
by
with
their
dog
and
have
no
no
relation
to
the
school.
Then
I
think
they're
not
accounted,
but
all
pedestrians
are
counted
as
individually.
So
on
the
other
question,
yes,
I
mean
that
that's
over
the
course
of
time.
You
know
going
back
20
to
30
years.
That's
been
a
big
trend
where
reduction
in
pedestrian
in
terms
of
school.
E
F
E
E
This
location
falls
short
of
the
morning
pedestrian
volumes,
but
it
also
falls
short
of
the
vehicle
counts
that
are
needed
in
the
morning
and
the
afternoon.
E
The
school
also
failed
to
meet
the
minimums
in
the
to
2019,
counts,
location
number:
four
is
ladera
elementary
school
and
near
la
avenidas,
arbelez
on
cali
damasco
and
cai
alemandro,
as
you
can
see
also
from
the
counts
here.
This
location
falls
short
in
the
afternoon
counts
and
also
doesn't
have
the
requisite
vehicle
counts
in
the
am
or
the
pm.
E
This
may
be,
because
there
is
a
secondary
access
to
the
school,
the
main
access,
which
is
at
arbes
and
plantus,
which
are
the
main
crossing
of
of
pedestrians,
that
one
meets
all
the
minimum
standards
and
is
not
being
proposed
to
be
modified
or
discontinued,
and
the
last
location
on
the
recommendations
is
madrona
elementary
school
in
the
lynn
ranch
area.
E
This,
as
indicated
on
this
slide,
this
location
is
also
unique
because
it's
technically
outside
of
the
city
limits
it's
actually
an
unincorporated
county
area,
it's
close
to
the
border,
but
it's
in
the
unincorporated
county
area
and
the
we
did
connect
with
the
county
and
their
the
county
policy
for
the
unincorporate
areas
is
that
the
school
district
is
to
provide
the
crossing
guards
and
the
county
will
does
not
support
providing
those.
E
Public
outreach
I
mentioned
we've
we
did
discuss
with
the
county
on
that
one
location,
but
in
addition
to
that
staff
met
with
the
canadian
value
unified
school
district
assistant
superintendent
earlier
this
month
to
go
over
the
proposed
changes
to
the
program
and
answer
any
questions
that
they
had.
E
As
of
the
meeting
time
the
start
of
the
meeting
tonight,
we
have
not
received
any
written
or
telephone
requests
or
comments
on
this
item
and
with
that
staff
is
available
for
any
questions.
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B
So
we
do
have
one
clarifying
question
from
commissioner
farris.
G
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
and
I
said
we're.
Basically,
the
recommendation
is
is
that
we
would
recommend
city
council
remove
these
from
the
supported
program
and
the
study
was
conducted
with
the
24
locations
that
were
there
previously
and
all
of
them
either
met
the
requirements
or
they've
met
the
pedestrian
requirements,
and
maybe
not
so
there's.
I
think
there
were
like
five
of
them
that
are
still
under
review
and
we'd
look
at
them,
but
these
are
the
five
that
would
recommend
they
don't
meet
the
standards
and
we
would
recommend
denial.
E
G
B
I
I
have
just
a
few
questions
when,
when
you
were
conducting
the
am
and
pm
counts
for
vehicular
and
pedestrian
traffic.
What
were
the
hours
during
which
you
conducted
the
count?
So
was
it
let's
say
half
an
hour
before
school
start
time
to
you
know
15
minutes.
After
could
you
just
elaborate
on
how
the
count
was
done.
E
Yeah,
so
it's
a
full
hour
and
I
believe
it's
45
minutes
before
and
15
minutes
afterward,
because
there's
there's
much
less
traffic
after
the
there's,
not
that
many
parents
arriving
and
children
arriving
after
school
already
is
in
session
right.
So
that's
the
am
one,
but
the
pm
one
is-
is
kind
of
the
reverse.
It's
15
minutes
before
to
45
minutes
afterwards,
so
yeah,
the
the
highest
volume
period.
B
And
one
last
question:
do
you
have
any
idea
regarding
the
cost
savings
for
eliminating
the
crossing
guards
at
these
five
schools.
E
Yeah,
it's
roughly
seventeen
thousand
per
location,
so
it
would
be.
You
know,
in
the
range
of
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
of
expenses.
B
Okay,
do
we
have
any
further
questions
for
for
staff?
Okay,
then,
can
I
have
a
motion.
B
Do
we
need
a
second
okay,
ms
vasquez,
can
you
call
the
roll.
C
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C
B
H
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
immo.
The
item
before
you
this
evening
is
to
consider
a
draft
updated
speed,
hump
policy,
which
is
attachment
number
two
in
the
staff
report.
This
is
an
item
that
we've
discussed
at
the
january
meeting
earlier
this
year.
The
commissioners
provided
or
direction
as
to
the
elements
of
the
current
speed
hump
policy,
either
to
be
revised,
deleted
or
new
items
to
be.
A
H
And
here's
a
photo
of
what
page
one
of
the
updated
drafts
beatham
policy
looks
like,
which
is
in
your
packet.
In
short,
it
contains
all
the
redline
markups
and
additional
comments
provided
by
the
commissioners
from
the
january
meeting.
The
policy
is
still
separated
into
three
sections,
which
is
the
way
the
current
speed
hum
policy
is
structured
and
the
focus
on
the
changes
are
being
being
best.
Practice
updates,
improved
clarity
where
previous
language
was
considered
unclear.
H
H
G
You
just
so
that
I
can
understand
kind
of
the
the
the
changes
that
are
done
and
kind
of
how
they
would
be
affected
by
this.
The
current
resolution
that
was
passed
to
29045
effectively
just
established
the
criteria
for
speed
humps
to
be
implemented,
but
we're
sort
of
changing
this
to
be
primarily
focused
on
if
they
are
to
be
requested
by
the
public
right.
It's
it's
the
the
manner
by
which
the
public
can
request
consideration
of
a
speed
hump
to
be
implemented,
if
approved,
is
that
that
correct.
H
Yeah
that's
correct.
Basically,
the
current
policy
allows
either
requests
to
be
initiated
by
the
public
or
it
can
be
initiated
by
the
city
council,
but
over
the
course
of
time.
I
don't
think
we've
really
had
any
requests
initiated
by
council,
so
we're
just
we're
deleting
that
portion
and
just
keeping
it
strictly
to
requests
initiated
by
the
public.
G
G
G
There
was
sort
of
this
description
of
their
speed,
hump
and
speed
lump,
and
I
know,
we've
redefined
it
as
cushion
but
and
the
confusing
factor
if
it
was
by
removing
the
second
sentence,
which
sort
of
said
well
when
evaluating
a
speed
hump.
If
there's
emergency
things,
then
a
speed
lump
could
could
be
their
speed
cushion
in
this
particular
case,
but
we're
taking
that
out
and
does
is
the
intent
of
this
to
say,
and
I
guess
let
me
step
back
on
this.
G
That
is
further
revised
to
say
we
want
to
include
a
sentence
that
says
the
city
engineer
is
the
one
that
has
a
discretion
about
whether
a
speed,
hump
or
speed
cushion
is
what's
implemented,
based
upon
their
understanding
of
emergency
response
times
and
things
as
the
best
implementation
method.
Is
that
a
fair
way
to
think
about
that
revision.
G
Okay,
so
the
intent
is
that
there
is
only
one
policy.
We
are
considered
whether
some
sort
of
speed
reduction
method
is
put
in
place.
The
city
engineer
will
make
the
discretion
as
to
whether
it's
a
speed,
hump
or
a
speed
cushion,
but
there's
really
just
one
process,
and
this
is
the
process
there's
nothing
else.
No
one
should
intend
that
there
are
different
processes
for
whether
it
could
be
a
speed,
cushion
or
a
speed
pump.
Is
that
correct.
G
H
This
will
basically
indicate
to
the
petitioners
that,
if
they
put
in
for
speed
humps
that
you
know
that's
what
our
program
refers
to
as
these
traffic
calming
devices
as
speed
humps,
it
clearly
indicates
that
at
some
point
it
may
change
from
speed
humps
to
speed,
cushions
and
we'll
decide
that,
depending
on
how
we
feel
about
input
impacts
to
response
time.
G
G
The
last
sentence
says
a
request
shall
meet
all
items
in
section:
a
regarding
the
eligibility
criteria
for
request,
initially
the
public
to
qualify
for
speed,
humps
and
for
staff
to
recommend
the
installation,
and
so
what
I
worry
about
is
that
to
say
to
qualify
for
speed
humps.
Is
that
something
that
could
be
used
to
say?
We
won't
entertain
a
hearing
if
they
meet
the
75
percent,
or
is
it
primarily
which
I
know
at
least
my
understanding
was?
Is
that
as
implemented
before
staff
can't
recommend
it
if
it
doesn't
meet
all
the
criteria?
G
So
I
get
the
second
part.
Is
it
wise
for
us
to
potentially
re?
Remove,
I'm
wondering
if
we
should
potentially
remove
that
prayer
section,
because
I
I
think
the
in
and
staff
can
tell
me
what
the
intent
is,
but
would
want
to
make
sure
that
the
it's
clear
that
the
request
can't
be
recommended
by
staff
if
it
doesn't
meet
all
the
eligibility
criteria,
but
they
still
would
get
their
hearing
if
they
meet
the
petition
requirements.
Is
that
is
that
an
appropriate
understanding
of
the
intent
of
the
language
changes.
H
Yes,
that's
that's
correct.
They
will
definitely
get
their
hearing
as
long
as
they
meet
the
75
petition
requirement.
They
will
definitely
get
their
hearing.
G
Okay,
great
that
may
be
clarification
and
language
there
that
that
one
can
be
a
little
fuzzy
to
where
someone
could
say.
Oh
well,
they
didn't
qualify,
so
they
won't
get
the
hearing.
So
that's
that's
good!
Thank
you!
One
one
other
question.
I
think
as
sorry
as
you,
you
brought
that
up
about
the
75
percent.
G
G
H
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
some
of
that
level
of
detail
may
not
be
fully
explained
in
in
this.
In
the
policy
we
generally
work
with
the
residents
before
they
decide
to
submit
a
petition,
we'll
generate
a
map
of
the
neighborhood
and
then
outline
the
the
streets
and
the
home
or
the
the
homes
that
front
the
particular
street
that
should
be
included
in
the
in
the
petition
process,
and
you
know
we'll
you
know,
take
a
while
and
you
know
would
discuss
with
the
resident
how
and
why
we
did.
We
decided
upon
those
homes.
G
Actually,
to
clarify,
I
think
the
language
does
state
and
it's
not
intended
to
be
changed.
It's
effective
property
owners.
So
my
my
my
my
failure
on
that
one
because
I
just
double
checked
on
it,
but
that
makes
total
sense
yeah.
But
I
guess
that
from
my
standpoint,
I'm
thinking
from
a
resident's
perspective.
G
If
it's
75
percent,
how
do
they
know
what
the
you
know
what
those
hundred
are
so
that
they
know
if
they
come
in
with
75
or
more,
you
know
we
did
what
I
always
worry
about.
They
don't
want
to
come
in
and
say:
well,
actually
they
were
101
and
you
got
75
of
them
and
it
didn't
meet
the
75
threshold.
So
therefore
no
hearing,
so
I
want
to
how
do
we
know
how
do
how
does
how
does
the
resident?
How
do
the
residents
know?
I
think
that's
my
primary
question.
E
Yeah,
I
guess
to
to
help
clarify
that
one
as
jim
was
indicating
the
that
information
or
the
the
list
of
effective
properties
will
be
developed
as
one
of
the
first
steps
in
the
process
so
and
that
wouldn't
change
I
mean
that
would
be
okay,
here's
the
effect
of
property
owners,
and
so
there
would
be
that
clarity
would
be
provided
at
the
outset,
as
opposed
to
a
moving
target
to
the
to
that
interested
petitioner.
G
D
G
G
G
It
will,
if
it
does
not
meet
the
all
the
eligibility
criteria,
it
will
be
an
you
know,
recommend
denial
to
the
commission.
If
it
meets
all
the
criteria,
staff
will
use
its
discretion
to
determine
what
its
recommendation
is,
but
that
will
be
what
is
presented
to
the
traffic
commission.
Public
will
know
that.
That's
that's
how
that
works
commission
will
provide
its
hearing
if
it
provides
a
denial.
G
Petitioners
have,
and
I
think
it's
someone
who's
in
the
residing
petition
zone
has
the
right
to
appeal
to
the
council
as
long
as
they
pay
their
fees
and
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
that
is
a
reasonably
clear
method
of
evaluation
and
appeal.
Is
that
the
way
I've
described
it?
The
way
it's
intended
to
work.
H
And
then
yeah
the
one
last
thing
on
the
petition
on
section
a1
it
it.
You
know
it
clearly
would
tell
the
petitioners
it
would
have
to
be
the
property
owner's
fronting
fronting
along
the
street.
So
they
know
okay,
we're
we're
only
going
to
take
those
people's
those
homes
that
are
touching
the
road,
because
I
think
the
reason
for
that
was.
H
If
speed
humps
go
in
okay,
it's
going,
it
may
be
placed
right
in
front
of
their
house
or,
if
you
put
in
signs
or
other
devices
related
to
the
speed
hub
installation,
because
they
front
the
road
they're
gonna
have
to
live
with
the
consequences.
G
F
So,
thank
you,
sir.
I
have
one
quick
question
and
it
has
to
do
with
the
reference
between
speed,
humps
speed
lumps
cushions
or
what
have
you
and
what
I'm
wondering
is
why
we
couldn't
replace
all
of
it,
because
it's
going
to
be
at
the
discretion
of
staff.
Why
we
couldn't
replace
all
references
to
something
as
simple
as
traffic
calming
devices
as
determined
by
city
traffic
engineer
and
keep
it
consistent
throughout,
because
we
do
know
that
it
is
a
traffic
calming
device,
there's
probably
only
two
that
are
really
being
considered.
F
But
who
knows
what
technology
brings
if
we're
trying
to
make
this
simpler
and
also
keep
people
from
having
to
come
back
and
say?
Well,
geez,
you
know,
I
really
thought
we
were
gonna
get
humps
and
now
they
did
a
switch
on
me
and
we're
getting
lumps
or
I
don't
remember,
cushions
or
whatever
it's
gone.
So
would
you
consider
at
least
running
it
by
the
city
attorney
to
just
make
every
reference
a
traffic
calming
device,
as
determined
by
the
city
traffic
engineer.
H
Yeah
we
can.
We
can
do
that.
However,
one
thing,
the
reason
why
we
maintain
the
speed,
humps
and
speed
cushion
references
is
that
we
have
a
a
plate
and
a
road
standards
engineering
plate
for
both
speed,
humps
and
speed
cushions.
So
we
would
share
that
information
with
the
with
the
residents
to
let
them
know
that
if
you
know
common
devices
are
approved
for
the
roadway,
they
know
you
know
exactly,
you
know
one
or
the
other.
H
If
it's
approved,
you
know
that's,
what's
going
to
go
in,
there
may
be
some
confusion
if
you
put
a
more
generalized
term,
say,
for
example,
at
the
end
of
the
process,
maybe
traffic
circles
or
you
know
road
narrowings
get
placed
into
the
roadway.
You
know
there
could
be
some
issues
with
a
citizen
saying:
well,
you
know,
maybe
that's
not
what
they
signed
up
for.
They
were
under
the
impression
that
maybe
you
know
it
was
strictly
for
speed,
humps
or
speed
cushions.
F
I
understand
I
I
understand
that
what
should
come
up
the
road
I
was
trying
to
make
it
a
little
bit
simpler
when
it
gets
back
here,
the
first
time,
but
you
know
I'm
it
doesn't
affect
my
supporting
it
one
way
or
the
other.
F
I
just
was
wondering
if
there
was
a
way
to
try
and
simplify
it,
as
I've
talked
with
people
out
there
and
it's
there's,
no
one
that
understands
the
difference
between
a
hump,
a
lump
and
a
cushion
it
just
is
what
it
is
and
they
both
they're
all
going
to
work,
but
I
hope
they're
all
going
to
work.
So
all
right.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
michiko.
I
have.
I
do
have
one
question
and
it's
really
a
procedural
question.
If,
if
you
we'll
turn
to
section
c
of
our
resolution
here,
one
c
one
meeting
schedule
process
and
it
states
if
the
seventy
five
percent
petition
signature
rate
is
met.
B
If
a
decision
is
made
by
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission,
the
matter
can
then
be
appealed
to
the
city
council
and
procedure
unfolds
at
the
city
council
level.
But
what's
throwing
me
off
is
in
the
very
first
sentence,
it
says
a
meeting
of
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission
or
city
council
shall
be
scheduled.
So
if
this
proceeds
directly
to
city
council,
what's
the
avenue
for
appeal
or
is
there
one.
H
E
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
no
different
than
also
you
know
certain
land
use
items
and
planning
commission,
but
the
the
intent
is
that
the
council
then
will
only
hear
items
that
are,
you
know,
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
substantiated
or
legitimate,
or
suitable
to
be
to
be
processed
and
recommended.
G
If
the
council
has
the
final
say
on
it,
they
will
recommend
it.
It
may
be
recommending
a
denial,
but
I
think
it
goes
to
the
council,
because
that
they're
really
the
the
ones
that
are
here
as
we're
sort
of
describing
it
if
it
comes
before
the
commission,
if
we
we
don't
really
have
decision-making
authority,
so
we're
only
recommending
approval
or
denial
if
it's
denying
it's
and
then
the
current
ordinance
or
the
current
resolution
basically
says
this.
G
A
E
Yeah
that
that
is
a
an
accurate
interpretation
of
of
how
you've
captured
it.
Now,
whether
you
know
that's
the
appropriate
method,
and
you
know
that
there
needs
to
be
maybe
some
discussion
with
staff
and
city
attorney
about
some
of
those
nuances.
B
G
B
So,
commissioner,
limo
is
pulling
on
my
sleeve.
He
wants
to
say
something
I
just.
F
Ripped
that
sleeve,
no
I'm
going
to
handle
them
in
two
separate
ways.
I
believe
my
experience
has
told
me
that
we
do
have
the
authority
to
deny
something,
because
it's
protected
by
appeal
in
regards
to
approving.
H
F
I
know
that
we're
allowed
to
approve
as
long
as
there's
no
appeal
to
council
up
to
20
thousand
dollars.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
don't
know
if
that's
ever
been
changed
or
not.
So
I
guess
what
I'm
wondering
is.
If
we
approved
it
it
does,
it
have
to
be.
If
we
approve
someone's
speed
humps,
I
know
that
we've
been
delegated
the
ability
to
turn
down
virtually
anything
because
it's
protected
by
appeal.
F
If
we
approve
it,
have
we
been
delegated
certain
approval
authority
by
council,
or
would
an
approval
have
to
go
to
council
because
the
expenditure
is
greater
than
what
we
can
do
here?
That's
because
that
that
that
would
make
sense
to
me
that
we'd
have
to
tell
people
that
hey
looks
like
you
got
your
your
speed
humps,
but
it's
up
to
council
to
approve
it
because
they're
elected
to
watch
over
the
money,
as
well
as
other
things.
E
Well,
that
is
certainly
one
level
of
it,
although
the
ultimate
construction
package
would
then
go
back
to
them
if
necessary,
for
for
the
public
contract
code
purposes,
but
the
the
council
may
have
the
the
decision
for
stop
signs
and
speed.
Humps
and
other
elements
may
reside
with
the
council
and
per
the
municipal
code.
So
the
ultimate
you
know
for
design,
immunity
and
other
other
factors.
F
So
would
we
if
we
want
to
approve
this,
can
we
approve
it
with
pending,
pending
a
statement
on
our
concerns
regarding
the
approval
process
by
the
city
attorney,
so
that
would
just
be
incorporated
into
so
it
doesn't
have
to
come
back
again
to
us.
E
Yes,
the
city
attorney
the
assistant
city
attorney
noel
doran,
is
on
the
line
actually
would
like
to
comment
on
the
matter.
So,
let's
see
if
we
can
batch
him
in.
I
Yeah,
can
you
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
great,
so
yeah,
you
guys
bring
up
some
some
great
questions
here.
Ultimately,
this
is
going
to
be
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
and
they're,
essentially
delegating
the
authority
to
you
to
make
it
a
first
round
decision
with
regard
to
an
application
for
speed,
humps
or
speed
lumps
speed
cushions,
and
so
I
I
think,
that's
fine.
I
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that
in
relationship
to
this
body
being
a
advisory
commission,
I
mean
ultimately
it's
going
to
be
up
to
the
city
council
to
approve
those
speed
calming
devices
so
you're,
essentially
making
a
recommendation.
The
city
council,
through
this
resolution,
has
just
determined
that,
if
after
review
by
staff
and
this
commission
that
a
particular
street
doesn't
meet
the
requirements
for
speed,
humps
or
speed
lumps
it
doesn't
warrant
a
further
review
by
the
city
council.
I
F
So
in
in
the
past-
and
I
think
what
we
can
just
do
as
as
part
of
either
staff
or
or
or
commission,
when
we're
on
the
verge
of
we're
voting
to
approve
something
and
it
gets
approved
before
the
item
gets
closed
out.
They're
told
you
know
that
this
is
a
decision
that
this
is
a
recommendation
that
the
traffic
and
transportation
commission
has
made
to
city
council.
Who
will
have
the
final
decision
now?
E
Yes,
that
that's
done,
and
in
addition,
when
it
does
go
to
city
council,
the
notification
process
would
would
be
replicated
again
and
so
those
affected
property
owners
would
be
notified.
That
this
item
is
going
to
city
council
and
they
would
have
another
opportunity
to
to
attend
or
watch
or
participate
in
that
decision-making
process.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Ferris
has
another
question
so.
G
G
G
If
it
is
a
denial
we
actually
have,
we
would
be
delegated
by
the
council
approving
the
resolution,
the
ability
to
deny
that
application,
and
it
also
grants
the
applicants,
the
ability
to
appeal
to
the
council
and,
if
that's
the
intent
and
that
that's
something
that
we
can,
that
the
council
can
give
denial
approvals
but
or
denial
powers,
but
not
necessarily
approval
powers.
Then
I
think
that
that's
fine,
as
long
as
that
is
the
intent
and
we're
able
to
do
that.
Does
that
make
sense.
B
You
so
so,
looking
again
at
section
c1,
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
that
that's
pretty
well
articulated
in
that
section,
and
so
therefore
no
revisions
would
necessarily
need
to
be
written
right
because
it
does
talk
about
if
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission
does
make
the
recommendation,
then
it'll
go
to
city
council
for
final
approval
and
then
in
section
c.
2
of
course
lays
out
the
procedure.
If
there's
a
denial
by
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission,
does
the
staff
agree.
E
B
Okay,
no
question:
no
more
questions
for
staff
from
the
commissioners.
The
cross-examination
is
over.
We
didn't
even
get
to
public
speakers
yet
do
we
have
any
public
speakers.
G
Was
it?
Was
it
your
intent
thinking
in
the
discussion
on
c1
to
strike
the
or
city
council
language.
C
G
Correct
so
if,
if
it's
okay,
consistent
with
that
one
change,
I
would
be
okay
to
make
a
motion.
Oh
go
ahead,
go
ahead!.
C
G
So
if
I
may,
I
will
go
ahead
and
move
that
we
receive
the
report
and
we
have
provided
our
comments
on
the
draft
city,
city
thousand
oaks,
speed,
hump
policy
and
recommend
that
to
the
city
council
approve
the
draft
city
of
thousand
oaks
speed,
hump
policy,
as
articulated
in
attachment
2
and
with
the
revision
in
the
first
sentence
of
section
c
1,
the
words
or
city
council
be
removed.
G
Before
we
go
into
before
we
call
a
vote,
may
I
ask
that
we
have
a
little
bit
more
discussion
and
to
there
was
one
additional
item
that
I
wanted
to
get
the
commission's
understanding
and
and
thoughts
on,
which
was
in
section
b4.
C
C
C
D
D
Any
person
wishing
to
appeal
a
decision
of
the
traffic
commission
shall
file
a
written
appeal
and
pay
an
appeal
fee
with
the
city
clerk
department
within
14
calendar
days
of
this
decision.
The
matter
will
be
referred
to
the
city
council
at
the
earliest,
reasonable
and
available
date.
The
appeal
fee
will
be
refunded
only
if
the
city
council
overturns
the
traffic
commission's
decision.
An
appeal
form
is
available
from
the
recording
secretary.
H
Okay,
thank
you,
cheryl,
I'm
all
sorry
for
the
technical
difficulty
we
just
resolved.
The
item
before
you
6c
is
to
consider
adding
stop
sign
control
at
six
t
intersections
five
of
the
intersections
are
located
within
residential
neighborhoods
and
one
is
within
a
business
district.
We
typically
bring
the
stop
sign
evaluations
to
the
commission
about
once
a
year
to
allow
for
public
input
on
the
proposed
installations
and
to
develop
a
recommendation
for
the
city
council
as
they
have
the
authority
to
prove
all
stop
sign
installations.
H
Stop
signs
are
one
of
the
few
traffic
control
devices
that
are
not
approved
administratively
and
here's
a
listing
of
the
six
intersections
under
review
tonight.
Stopper
yield
signs
are
not
present
at
any
of
the
six
locations
to
regulate
right
away.
The
primary
areas
of
concern
is
that
some
drivers
at
the
terminating
streets
fail
to
yield
before
entering
the
intersection
they
just
roll
through,
as
if
they
have
the
right-of-way,
which
results
in
vehicle
conflicts
when
cross
street
traffic
is
present.
H
You'll
see
some
vis
sources
of
visual
impairment
to
drivers
as
they
approach
the
intersections
staff
has
observed
the
driving
behavior
and
the
sight
distance
conditions
at
these
six
locations
and
believe
stop
sign.
Control
added
to
the
terminating
legs
could
mitigate
the
failure
to
yield
in
line
of
sight
issues.
As
mentioned
earlier,
stop
signs
require
city
council
approval.
We've
adopted
a
practice
to
vet
these
proposed
installations
through
the
traffic
commission
before
the
they're
considered
by
city
council.
H
H
This
next
map
shows
ilex
drive
at
adrian
street
in
newbury
park.
Ilex
drive
is
a
terminating
street
where
it
crosses
adrian
and
finally,
here's
a
location
map
of
parker
avenue
where
it
terminates
in
the
southbound
direction
at
lombard
street
this
location
is
look
is
within
a
business
district,
just
south
of
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
here's
a
view
of
one
of
the
intersections
being
considered
tonight.
This
is
the
view
when
traveling
eastbound
on
kaye
katalpa.
H
H
Both
of
these
features
create
for
impaired
visibility
and
here's
a
closer
view
of
the
right
side
and
the
manner
in
which
the
block
wall
cuts
off
the
sidelines
of
traffic
for
the
driver
and
then
looking
to
the
left
side.
There's
a
visual
impairment
due
to
corner
landscaping
on
the
state.
There
are
waste
bins
in
the
street
and
vertical
road
curvature.
H
Similar
visual
impairments
exist
at
the
other
five
intersections,
and
thus
the
stop
signs
for
each
of
the
six
intersections
are
being
recommended
to
mitigate
these
line.
Of
sight
issues
as
part
of
our
public
outreach,
we
mailed
out
83
meeting
notices
to
residents
within
300
feet
of
the
residential
intersections,
asking
them
to
provide
input
on
the
staff
recommendation
either
by
attending
the
meeting
here
in
the
boardroom,
virtually
via
zoom
or
by
submitting
an
email
to
city
staff.
H
In
summary,
the
recommended
stop
signs
considered
tonight
will
achieve
a
number
of
goals
listed
here
and
should
address
the
public
concerns
over
drivers
who
failed
to
yield
the
right-of-way
and
the
line
of
sight
issues
at
the
six
intersections.
I
want
to
emphasize
that
the
proposed
stop
signs
are
not
designed
to
control,
speeding
or
other
undesirable
driving.
Behavior
stop
signs
are
strictly
a
tool
designed
to
regulate
intersection
right-of-way.
H
D
D
J
Hey
good
evening,
everyone
coming
to
you
live
from
the
intersection
of
ilex
and
adrian.
J
This
intersection
is
located
very
close
to
the
place
where
I
live
here
in
newberry
park,
and
it
has
been
a
a
dangerous
area
because
there's
a
lot
of
vehicles
that
come
up
from
carob
and
enter
onto
ilex
at
a
even
though
there's
a
stop
sign
there
at
carob
and
islets.
They
do
come
around
the
corner
pretty
aggressively
and
then
once
they
get
to
this
point,
they
can
go
left
to
right
without
any
impedance
to
their.
You
know,
traffic.
One
thing:
I've
noticed,
though,
there's
a
lot
of
people
out.
J
You
know
walking
here
somebody
walking
the
dog,
hey,
that's
a
good
looking
puppy
anyway,
the
with
the
event
of
electric
vehicles
you're,
just
not
as
aware
of
these
vehicles
coming
and
going
and
approaching,
and
I
think
it
would
be
very
wise
on
this
commission
to
recommend
the
stop
sign
for
this
particular
location
as
well
as
the
other
ones
that
have
been
identified.
I
really
appreciate
your
service.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
tonight
and
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
miss
vazquez.
Do
we
have
any
other
speakers
just
the
one?
H
B
C
F
I
can
no
I'll
make
the
motion
okay.
My
motion
be
to
move
to
consider
the
staff
report
which
we've
done
tonight
and
follow
the
staff
recommendation
and
forward
to
city
council
for
stop
lines,
stop
signs
at
the
six
intersections
detailed
in
the
staff
report.
C
C
C
B
Are
we
ready
to
move
on
to
item
number
seven,
which
is
status
report
of
prior
traffic
commission
recommendations?
There
are
none
item
number,
eight,
commission,
referrals
from
january
19,
2022
again,
nothing
item,
number,
nine
work
program
and
commission
schedule.
B
We
do
not
item
number
10
traffic
commission
comments.
Do
we
have
anything.
B
We
have
officially
run
out
of
air.
We
we
don't
have
anything
to
say
so.
We
have
now
arrived
at
item
number
11,
wherein
we're
ready
to
adjourn
this
meeting.
So
the
oh
yeah
we're
going
to
adjourn
the
meeting,
but
before
we
do
that,
we're
going
to
announce
that
the
next
meeting
of
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission
is
going
to
be
held
at
6,
00
p.m.
On
may,
18,
2022
in
the
board
room
of
the
civic
arts
plaza
on
the
third
floor
or
via
zoom,
and
with
that
good
night.
Thank
you.