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Traffic and Transportation Advisory Commission Meeting - 9/27/23
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Speakers
for
specific
agenda
items
shall
be
called
and
heard
during
that
specific
item.
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
traffic
commission
as
a
whole.
Speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record
under
State
Law
Public
comment.
Matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
traffic
commission
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
refer
to
the
city
engineer
for
administrative
follow-up.
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No
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
on
this
item
and
pursuant
to
traffic
commission
standards,
public
comments.
Speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes,
oh
and
also
for
the
record.
No
written
statements
have
been
submitted
for
this
item.
Also,
please
silence
all
cell
phones
during
the
meeting
and
please
remember,
to
meet
your
microphones
when
you
are
not
speaking.
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F
Good
evening,
chair
and
commission,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Alexandra
South
I
am
the
city's
director
of
strategic
Communications
and
public
affairs
and
I
am
here
tonight
to
share
with
you
a
little
bit
about
our
new
toolkit
for
the
community
to
encourage
alternative
routes
to
schools
so
areas
that
perhaps
have
some
opportunities
for
walking
and
biking
other
modes
of
transportation
to
help
reduce
traffic.
And
so
we
put
this
toolkit
together
with
the
intention
of
it
being
a
something
that
the
community
themselves
can
use
to
organize
using
kind
of
Grassroots
techniques.
People
can
host
neighborhood
meetings.
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We
built
out
some
branding
around
it
as
well
as
a
comprehensive
website
that
covers
a
variety
of
different
topics:
safety
tips,
as
well
as
how
to
plan
a
route
to
school
that
best
suits
your
individual
neighborhood.
There
are
several
links
to
National
websites
that
look
for
opportunities
to
create
paths
that
reduce
the
amount
of
interaction
between
pedestrians
and
traffic,
as
well
as
other
ways
to
engage
people
and
get
them
excited
to
build,
walking
buses
or
riding
buses
and
joining
together
to
really
build
that
effort.
F
The
website
itself
is
a
fully
responsive.
Mobile
friendly
works
on
any
device
provides
a
lot
of
different
resources
and
is
easily
shareable.
We
included
a
variety
of
printable
materials
that
people
can
print
out
and
distribute
door
to
door,
even
if
they
want
to
sometimes
Grassroots
efforts
do
require
a
little
footwork.
F
If
you
will
so
that
you
can
get
out
the
information
to
lots
of
different
people,
regardless
of
what
access
they
have,
the
website
itself
as
I
mentioned,
covers
a
variety
of
topics
where
we
really
deep
dive
in
a
way
that
we
hadn't
really
before
on
the
city
website,
is
into
our
crossing
guard
program.
The
the
site
contains
a
lot
of
information,
it's
very
comprehensive
when
it
comes
to
the
crossing
guards
their
trainings
policies.
F
If
there
aren't
enough
people
utilizing
that
space,
and
so
with
the
new
minimum
standards,
it
did
increase
the
number
of
locations
that
qualified
for
a
crossing
guard,
but,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
several
that
could
be
at
risk
of
losing
a
crossing
guard
because
there's
just
simply
not
enough
traffic.
So
so
this
really
helps
people
focus
on
the
areas
that
need
it,
the
most
foreign,
because
it's
an
in-house
build.
F
We
are
extremely
agile,
it's
something
that
we
can
continue
to
build
and
create
just
this
living
breathing
tool
as
we
get
feedback
from
the
community
on
resources
that
worked
or
maybe
weren't
so
great,
and
then
ideas
that
the
community
brings
to
us
if
something
they
implemented
in
their
neighborhood
worked
particularly
well.
We
have
the
ability
to
add
that
to
our
website
and
we
can
incorporate
and
expand
the
information
and
resources
available
to
the
community.
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They
probably
won't
it'd,
be
great
if
they
did,
though,
but
yes,
so
we
reached
out
immediately
to
the
school
district
themselves,
so
they've
distributed
widely
through
their
digital
newsletters,
It's
featured
on
their
website
and
we're
looking
for
other
opportunities
and
different
spaces
that
they
can
incorporate
it.
And
you
know
really
what
will
be
the
most
effective
technique
while
we're
sharing
it
on
our
social
media
here
and
there,
which
is
pretty
robust.
F
We're
really
asking
the
community
interested
parties
to
start
taking
this
message
back
to
their
communities
and
their
neighborhood
groups
and
really
start
looking
for
opportunities
to
in
engage
in
this
type
of
a
process.
We've
also
engaged
crpd
they've
helped
share
some
of
this
messaging
as
well,
and
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
down
those
different
Avenues
to
keep
pushing
out
this
kind
of
Grassroots
approach.
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So,
just
if
any
members
of
the
audience
wish
to
speak,
they
have
to
fill
out
a
public
comment
card
and
then
I
can
I
can
call
you
I
know
it's
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
writing,
but
we
have
to
go
through
that
process.
I'm
happy
to
I'm
happy
to
have
you
if
I
have
a
public
comment
card
and
I
can
I
can
call
you
just
as
far
as
the
process.
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B
Secondly,
is
that
real-time
kind
of
information
on
the
on
the
crossing
guards,
because
in
talking
to
I,
went
and
attended
The
Conejo
Valley
unified's
their
DAC
meeting,
which
is
their
District
advisory
Council?
And
it's
essentially
for
those
who
don't
know
it's
a
it's.
A
a
council
made
up
of
individual
Representatives,
their
PTA
Representatives
or
parents
from
each
individual
school
they
get
get
together
and
they
sit
and
they
have
a
meeting.
I
gave
some
public
comment
on
this
and
and
told
them
about
the
website,
and
the
feedback.
B
I
got
was
tremendous,
but
the
feedback
really
was
kind
of.
A
two-fold
approach
is
one
a.
We
didn't
know
that
this
website
even
existed,
which
was
great
so
I
I
highly,
would
encourage
you
to
come
to
one
of
the
meetings
and
give
a
presentation.
I've
also
talked
to
the
chair
and
wanting
the
school
district.
To
actually
do
a
formal
invitation
put
it
on
the
agenda,
and
you
know
just
to
be
able
to
even
do
this
two.
B
It's
such
a
crucial
part
of
the
website
and
I'll
be
sure
to
you
know
in
talking
to
parents
to
bring
their
attention
that
that's
where
they
can
find,
but
I
mean,
as
far
as
I
know,
we're
fully
staffed
on
all
our
all
our
sites.
Now,
which
is
which
is
great,
I,
really
didn't
have
much
more
other
than
you
know
to
say.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
putting
this
together.
I
think
it's
crucial.
B
I
saw
the
video
I
think
today
on
Instagram
that
we
put
out,
which
was
great
and
I,
think
you
know
really
just
comes
down
to
your
right,
that
getting
that
parent
parent
buy-in,
the
PTA
buy-in
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
out
spreading
the
word
accordingly.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
turn
it
over
one
more
time.
Any
commissioner
further
comments.
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B
B
B
H
There
we
go
was
Ash,
discuss
our
pedestrian
safety
operations,
bicycle
safety
and
then
how
we're
kind
of
getting,
along
with
the
e-bikes
and
electric
motorcycles,
so
I'll
just
dive
in
you'll
notice
on
my
handout.
The
first
thing
is
a
news
article
about
the
city
of
Carlsbad
declaring
seeing
a
200
and
some
percent
increase
in
collisions
with
e-bikes
electric
motorcycles
fatalities,
injury
collisions
and
they
declared
a
state
of
emergency
because
when
I
first
got
into
this
I
thought,
let's
take
a
look
at.
H
Is
it
happening
in
other
cities
right,
obviously,
I'm
not
advocating
for
a
state
of
emergency,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
what's
coming
and
it's
we're
not
the
only
city,
that's
seeing
a
huge
increase
in
the
proliferation
of
electric
bikes
class,
one
two
and
three
electric
motorcycles
and
of
course,
the
potential
for
injuries
out
there.
So
just
to
kind
of
make
the
commission
aware
that
this
is
not
just
happening
in
Thousand
Oaks.
It's
happening
in
a
couple
different
places,
but
we'll
get
into.
H
If
you
look
at
the
handout
will
they
get
into
some
of
the
differences.
So
you
know
we'll
get
into
I
think
at
the
end,
how
Thousand
Oaks
PD
traffic
Bureau
is
addressing
this
through
education
enforcement,
but
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
the
differences
and,
what's
out
there,
so
I
thought
I'd
just
briefly
get
into
that
and
then
of
course
it's
a
lot
of
information.
H
So
I'll
open
up
the
questions
when
we're
done
all
right,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
and
we
had
a
collision
earlier
this
year
in
DOS
Vientos,
where
three
juveniles
were
riding
who
came
out
as
an
e-bike.
But
what
really
was
an
electric
motorcycle
and
not
a
certified
for
Highway
use,
yeah
and,
of
course,
the
Collision
we
thought
we'd
have
possibly
one,
maybe
two
fatals
and
we
got
lucky
and
all
of
them
survived,
so
that
kind
of
brought
it
up
to
light.
H
So
so
we
found
out
that
most
law
enforcement
and
were
no
exception,
were
really
unfamiliar
with
the
different
classes
of
e-bikes
and
what
was
out
there.
So
if
you
look
at
electric
bicycles
and
I'll
refer
to
our
educational
handout,
it's
a
three-page
handout.
We
give
out
to
the
school
district.
We
stand
out
in
Flyers
mailers
who
make
it
in
our
public
events.
We
pass
this
out
and
what
we
came
up
with.
Is
you
know,
class
one?
What
is
a
Class
one?
A
low
speed
pedal
assist
20
miles
an
hour.
H
Is
the
governed
maximum
speed
for
these
electric
vehicles.
They
are
considered
bicycles,
I
found
out.
Most
of
them
are
governed
at
19
or
19,
and
a
half
they
won't
actually
hit
20
on
the
safe
side
class.
Two
just
adds
it's
really
the
same
characteristics
with
a
few
differences
like
instead
of
pedal
assist,
you
could
have
a
throttle,
so
that's
it
and
then
class
three.
We
have
a
little
bit
more
velocity.
H
We
have
a
28
mile,
an
hour
cap,
and
then
we
treat
class
one
and
Class
2
electric
bikes
as
far
as
enforcement
and
as
far
as
topd
traffic
as
bicycles,
they
are
bicycles,
they're,
nothing
less
they're,
reportable
in
collisions.
We
have
to
investigate
collisions
with
them,
as
we
would
any
bike,
they're
considered
Vehicles
by
the
penal
code
and
their
definition,
and
they
are
reportable
for
all
injury
and
non-injury
collisions,
especially
involving
either
on
their
own
or
Motor
Vehicles
class.
H
Three
is
a
little
bit
different
as
far
as
the
enforcement
is,
if
you're
under
18,
you
have
to
wear
a
helmet,
but
there
really
is
no
rules
of
the
road
apply
to
these
bicycles
like
they
would
any
other
vehicle
stop
signs.
Everything
else.
Class
three
is
is
a
little
bit
a
step
up
and
it's
called
often
referred
to
as
a
commuter
bicycle.
We
have
a
28
mile,
an
hour
cap
and
there
are
some
codified
requirements
in
the
vehicle
code
for
writing
a
class
three.
H
It
has
a
higher
velocity,
so
you
have
to
be
16
years
or
older.
There's
no
exception.
Okay,
there
is
no
licensing
requirements,
but
you
have
to
be
16.
You
must
always
wear
a
helmet,
whether
you're
an
18
year
old
or
your
30
year
old
or
40
year
old
or
a
16
year
old,
so
the
helmets
are
always
there
and
then
you
may
not
transport
passengers
and
of
course
you
can
ride
the
bike.
Lanes
with
those
enforcement
with
the
class
3
is
difficult
on
the
outside.
H
There
is
no
difference
that
any
Patrol
person
in
a
motorcycle
or
car
can
tell
it's
a
class
one.
Two
or
three.
It's
not
possible
until
you
conduct
a
stop
and
actually
look
at
the
bike
and
and
what
it
can
do.
So
we
still
really
when
I
tell
when
I
instead
of
overloading
our
Patrol
with
a
bunch
of
information.
Really
the
directive
is
these:
are
bicycles,
you're,
not
you're,
probably
not
going
to
see
a
kid
on
a
class
three
and
and
think
well
he's
15
and
a
half,
and
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
Probably.
H
But
what
really?
What
really
found
out
is-
and
when
we
were
ignorant
to
this
is
there's
a
lot
of
what
we
would
consider
for
vehicle
code
definition
as
electric
motorcycles
and
that's
something
totally
different.
Those
are
not
bicycles.
They
are
illegal.
Well,
not
illegal,
they're
legal
vehicles
to
own,
but
they're
intended
for
off
Highway
use.
So
what
I?
What
I
could
make
a
good
analogy
for
an
electric
motorcycle
that
we
would
see
in
the
streets
is
it
would
be
like
someone
taking
their
off
Highway
dirt
bike
and
riding
it
down
the
street?
H
Certainly
an
illegal
vehicle
for
the
street
they're
not
allowed
there
for
off
Highway
use.
There
is
a
few
differences,
unlike
an
off
Highway
motorcycle
dirt
bike,
lack
of
a
better
turn.
There's
no
registration,
there's
no
VIN
number
and
a
lot
of
these
have
they
do
have
a
serial
number,
but
there's
no
registered
owner.
That
makes
enforcement
a
little
more
difficult
too.
Initially
we
started
taking
these
to
the
station
and
seizing
them
as
evidence
if
they
were
involved
in
a
you,
know
a
crime
but
now
I
just
started
directing
to
tow
these.
H
If
you
look
at
the
kind
of
the
page,
two
you'll
see
the
prime
examples,
the
Sauron,
that's
what
everybody
looks
at
very
easy
to
distinguish
these
electric
motorcycles
from
electric
bikes,
which
we
treat
as
bicycles,
the
absence
of
pedals.
Some
do
have
pedals,
but
there's
a
large
electrical
engine
or
electric
Drive.
The
Sauron
is
48
50
miles
an
hour
rated
new.
Obviously,
if
you
put
a
small
juvenile
on
it,
it's
going
to
exceed
that
speed,
because
the
weight
falls
off.
H
That's
for
an
adult,
most
of
the
kids
are,
are
buying
additional
battery
packs
and
upgrades,
and
now
we
have
60
and
70
mile
an
hour
surons,
especially
if
you
put
an
80
or
90
pound
child
on
it
right
most,
the
people
we
encounter
riding
these
are
under
the
age
of
16.,
so
there's
a
huge
danger
with
with
the
surons
and
the
other
electric
motorcycles
and
obviously
with
with
a
motorcycle
on
a
highway.
There's
several
there's
several
issues
right.
There's
a
lot
of
violations
occurring.
There's
no
registration,
there's
no
license
plate.
They're!
H
Not
there
are
motorcycles,
they
don't
have
headlights,
they
don't
have
tail
lights,
they
don't
have
brake
lights,
they
don't
have
turn
signals.
There's
a
million
I
can
go
on
and
on
and
on
right.
So
enforcement
becomes
very
easy.
With
these
they're
not
allowed
to
be
on
the
highway
and
there's
a
just
a
ton
of
stuff.
We
can
cite
the
kids,
for
we
do
want
to
do
enforcement
with
these,
but
we
also
want
to
do
education.
H
We'd
all
agree
that
we
can,
if
we
can,
educate
and
keep
them
all
through
in
the
first
place,
that's
better
than
any
enforcement.
Better
than
any
citation
with
the
bikes
with
the
electric
motorcycles
there's
we
usually
run
into
some
licensing
issues
too,
and
that's
what
really
has
the
teeth
in
the
enforcement
is
they're.
Typically,
they
don't
have
a
license
they're
too
young,
and
then
they
don't
have
they're
also
if
they
do
have
a
license.
H
My
I
manage
the
traffic
Bureau.
So
my
direction
is.
We
are
a
pro
Towing
Agency
for
these
motorcycles
and
also,
if,
if
it's
dangerous
I,
we
are
a
pro-impound
agency.
You
know
that
can
always
change
with
direction
from
the
city.
But
what
we're
finding
is
the
flagrant
disregard
for
traffic
laws,
for
instance,
I'll
just
I'll
bring
up
one
example
and
it's
it's.
We
see
the
sarons
and
the
kids
are
on
them
and
it's
usually
a
group
of
two
three
four
six
people
sometimes
ask
them
to
stop
and
they
don't
stop.
H
H
Any
Deputy
in
a
patrol
Tahoe
is
not
going
to
catch
anybody
on
a
Saran
who
knows
what
they're
doing
or
they'll
take
off
from
one
of
our
many
trails
or
the
take
off
down
between
houses
down
the
sidewalk,
where
we're
not
going
to
chase
them,
but
we
can't
I've
also
directed
my
guys
that,
obviously
we're
not
going
to
get
in
any
kind
of
pursuit
or
the
Public's
in
danger
over
something
like
this
right.
It's
not
a
Pursuit,
that's
what
we're
going
to
pursue.
H
So
if
we
get
flagrant
disregard
for
traffic
laws,
if
we
get
completely
unsafe,
behavior
that
puts
the
public
in
danger,
puts
the
juvenile
in
danger
I'm
telling
my
guys
to
impound
for
30
days
and
the
way
we
do.
That
is
when
you
drive
without
a
license
and
you've
never
been
issued
a
driver's
license
and
you're
driving
a
vehicle
we'll
seize
your
car
and
impound
it
for
30
days
now,
I'll
tell
people
as
soon
as
you
get
your
license:
I'll
release
the
car,
not
a
problem.
H
We
want
people
to
get
their
licenses
for
the
juveniles
who
get
pulled
over
that
are
respectful,
who
were
not
aware.
They
were
breaking
the
law
when
the
parents
show
up
they're.
Oh
my
God
I
bought
this
I
thought
it
was
electric
bicycle
I'm,
so
sorry
I
know
we
can
reach
those
people
and
I'll
typically
either
the
bike
to
the
parent,
or
we
will
tell
when
they
can
get
out
of
the
tow
yard
the
same
day
or
the
next
day.
H
So
there
are
several
options
and
of
course,
if
you
can
weigh
in
on
at
the
end,
if
you
have
some
direction
too
I'd
love
to
incorporate
that
this
is
this
is
Virgin
Territory
for
us,
it
really
just
started
the
enforcement
this
year
and
if
they
do
have
helmets
by
the
way,
they're
typically
bicycle
helmets,
which
will
not
protect
them
in
a
crash
or
a
collision.
If
you're
on
a
motorcycle,
they
must
wear
a
DOT
approved
motorcycle
helmet,
so
I
was
kind
of
asked
to
kind
of
give
you
the
difference.
H
What's
the
e-bike,
what's
the
e-motor
cycle
and
then
kind
of
the
second
prong
is
as
a
as
the
enforcement
arm
of
your
local
government.
What
are
we
doing
about
it
right?
How
are
we
addressing
this
issue?
Certainly,
and
that's
why
I
put
the
Carlsbad
memo?
We
don't
want
it
to
be
Carlsbad
right.
We
don't
want
our
city
to
become
the
two
or
three
hundred
percent
increase
in
collisions
and
fatality.
We
certainly
don't
want
a
fatality
and
I.
H
Don't
want
any
kid
crashing
on
this
and
I
don't
and
I
also
don't
want
them
taking
off
down
the
trail
and
colliding
with
a
bicyclist
on
one
of
our
Trails.
That's
a
senior
citizen
and
killing
them
either.
I
don't
want
that.
We
don't
want
any
of
this
stuff.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
get
ahead
of
this
before
it
becomes
bad
right?
So
one
way
is
through
Outreach.
So
you'll
see
that
the
that
three-page
information
Outreach
about
motorcycles
and
bicycles,
that's
what
topd
puts
out
it's
been
refined.
H
It's
been
changed
twice,
it'll
probably
be
changed
again
when
new
thing
comes
alive
and
then
I
have
a
cheat
sheet,
it
gets
a
little
bit
down
on
the
weeds.
It's
probably
not
something
we're
going
to
pass
out
of
the
junior
high
school
or
something,
but
if
you
week
or
two
or
a
month
from
now,
you
want
to
know
the
differences
in
how
we
enforce
things.
You
can
take
a
look
at
the
handout
with
the
bikes
on
top
there's
a
class
one.
H
Two
and
three
we
got
mopeds,
motorized
scooters,
electric
bicycles
and
we
consider
as
far
as
enforcement.
We
consider
these
surrounds
are
electric
motorcycles,
so
the
enforcement
goes
along.
With
that
there's
a
lot
of
codes.
We
can
use
to
enforce
some
of
these
and
then
there's
a
we
put
a
matrix
on
the
back,
hey.
What's
the
minimum
age
for
a
class
when
you
buy
it
there
isn't
any.
What
is
it
for
a
class
three?
Oh
it's
16!
If
you
look
at
page
three,
there
are
what
are
the
license
requirements?
H
What's
the
helmet
requirements,
so
it's
kind
of
a
matrix
here
and
that
might
change
too.
Certainly
the
code
book
that
we
use
the
California
vehicle
code
has
not
and
in
any
way
caught
up
with
the
proliferation
of
electric
motorcycles
electric
bikes.
We
spoke
the
DMV,
oh
they're,
scooters,
and
then
you
talk
to
another
person's
DMV
or
their
motorcycles.
So
it's
it's
definitely
going
to
change
again
and
we'll
keep
revising
this
as
it
changes
and
there's
going
to
be
issues
that
just
aren't
codified.
Yet
so
there's
a
challenge
of
enforcement.
H
So
that's
it!
We
are
a.
We
are
a
pro-enforcement
when
it
comes
to
the
writing
of
electric,
just
so
that
you
know
we
are
a
pro-enforcement
and
pro
Towing
and
pro-impound
when
it
comes
to
the
writing
of
electric
motorcycles
by
juveniles
on
city
streets.
There's
no
good
outcome
for
that
and
they're
off
Highway
bikes
only
and
will
take
active
enforcement
with
that
so
and
I
I
don't
recommend
that
changes
anytime
soon
I
certainly
am
not
changing
it.
H
I
may
change
the
impound
policy,
where
we
just
don't
impound
but
for
the
flagrant
disregard
from
Public
Safety
I'm
still
recommending
a
30-day
impound
on
these
bikes.
These
are
five
thousand
dollars
with
the
upgrades
they're
sick
there.
You
know
they
go
to
six
to
seven,
a
30-day
impound
in
the
city
with
our
three
contract.
Tow
companies
goes
from
90
to
110
a
day,
so
you're
looking
at
three
thousand
thirty
five
hundred
dollars
for
a
30-day
impound.
Is
it
stiff?
Absolutely?
H
But
if
we're
not
getting
cooperation
and
we've
been
stopped,
you
once
or
twice
I'm
an
impound
your
bike.
So
that's!
This
is
my
call,
but
let's
talk
about
what
else
we
doing
for
getting
the
word
out
so
I've
sent
some
the
Canal
Valley
School
District,
who
sent
some
mailers
out.
We've
done
public
Outreach.
We
just
had
an
open
house
two
weeks
ago.
We
did
the
we'll
talk
to
go
to
schools
pass
out.
The
Flyers
talk
about
e-bikes
I
looks
like
I.
H
Just
got
an
e-bike
that
the
owner
doesn't
want
anymore,
so
I
have
a
school
prop
pretty
soon
I'm,
sorry
a
surround
motorcycle
and
then
we're
largely
funded
by
our
OTS
grant
for
a
lot
of
specialized
enforcement.
So
with
the
through
our
OTS,
Grant
and
I'm.
Just
talking
about
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety.
That's
all
I'm
talking
about
right
now
we
do
it
does
a
million
things,
but
we
discussed
pedestrian
safety.
We
had
a
pedestrian
safety
operation
last
week
and
we
publicize
these
through.
H
So
you
know
social
media
or
we
put
out
the
press
releases
and
we
will
use
employees
as
I,
don't
want
to
say
decoy,
but
they
will
walk
out
and
we'll
look
for
right-of-way
violations
or
we'll
just
saturate
an
area,
a
school
zone
crosswalk
and
look
for
crosswalk
violations.
Our
last
operation
for
pedestrian
safety
focused
on
several
crosswalks
and
we
had
11
crosswalk
right-of-way
tickets
violators.
This
is
the
first
one.
H
I
can
remember
where
a
lot
of
times
we
can
cite
a
pedestrian
if
they're,
if
they're
going
through
a
crosswalk
unsafely,
but
this
was
all
vehicles
and
every
time
we
do
these
crosswalk
operations,
we
write
an
equal
amount
of
cell
phone
tickets
because
we
also
believe
that's
a
contributing
factor
to
collisions
in
a
crosswalk
and
pedestrian
injury.
Coalition,
so
I
cannot
do
a
pedestrian
operation
and
disrupt
pedestrian
related
tickets.
The
cell
phone
always
comes
up
to
so
that
was
our
the
results.
H
From
last
week's
we
do
two
of
those
a
year
this
month
actually
was
the
month
of
September
is
pedestrian
safety
month.
So
quite
frankly,
we're
out
there
enforcing
pedestrian
safety
and
doing
those
operations
we
choose
to
do
them.
In
September
OTS,
the
grant
that
we
use
requires
us
to
put
out
public
information
about
pedestrian
safety
in
the
month
of
September,
which
we
did
you'll
see.
H
That's
the
third
or
fourth
page
in
the
flyer,
and
that's
gets
not
only
put
out
here,
but
it
gets
put
out,
County,
Wide
and
then
I
think
the
the
last
one
is
our
ped
safety
operation.
This
is
example
of
the
media.
Release
looks
like
this
was
the
February
one,
but
we
did
one
in
February.
We
did
one
in
September.
H
This
is
an
example
of
the
media
releases
we'll
put
out
to
the
public
before
we
start
any
kind
of
those
focused
OTS
funded
operations,
but
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
stuff
to
throw
at
you
just
be
assured
that
it's
not
just
enforcement.
It's
also
warnings.
It's
also
education.
It's
it's
media,
it's
getting
the
word
out,
even
even
a
detention.
A
traffic
stop
is
a
detention,
even
a
traffic.
H
Stop
a
detention
that
results
in
a
warning
is
also
enforcement
too,
and
that
there's
certainly
a
lot
of
that
going
on
too
goal
is
not
to
go.
Take
every
kid's
electric
motorcycle
all
the
time.
Every
time,
but
we
reserve
that
for
the
ones
that
are
being
unsafe
and
dangerous,
so
I
think
I
think
that
addresses
I
I
open
it
up
to
questions.
If
you
have
any.
If
the
community
has
any
questions.
B
D
J
H
K
Space
and
one
of
the
recent
meetings
I
think
they've
been
establishing
what
type
by
then
I
think
it's
class.
One
only
is
the
is
the
ones
that
are
allowed
in
the
open
space,
and
maybe
not
not
anything
beyond
that,
and
when
you
look
through
this
and
you
see
how
many
other
Alternatives
there
are
and
how
many
there
are,
that
are
Way
Beyond
class,
one
that
it's
pretty
eye-opening,
so
yeah.
D
M
D
I
L
D
H
H
D
So
yeah
I
think
I
think
that
as
a
parent
would
be
really
interesting,
you
know
knowledge.
Obviously,
that's
part
of
you.
You
understand
the
study,
it's
the
parents
who
are
buying
these.
It's
not
the
students,
saving
up
their
hard-earned
money
and
I.
Think
messaging
to
the
parents
is
so
I
work
at
Oak,
Park,
Unified,
School
District,
and
we
have
a
director
of
safe
safety
and
so
going
perhaps
through
and
we're
a
much
smaller
District
than
CVUSD.
D
But
I
could
see
the
district,
putting
out
communication
to
All
Families
on
this
topic.
If
you
know
you
were
to
get
in
touch
with
with
them
and
I.
Okay,
every
most
school
districts
now
have
a
role
created
for
director
of
of
student
safety
and
just
a
recommendation
to
consider
reaching
out
to
them,
especially
as
you,
you
know
you
package
together
these
media
releases
and
then
they,
the
district,
can
just
blast
out
an
email
to
all
the
parents
about
it.
H
I
know
the
PDF
versions
of
these
are
available.
If
you
want
me
to
email
them
to
you,
the
the
electric
motorcycle
bike
difference
one
and
then
the
the
cheat
sheet.
Those
are
public
wreaths.
You
can
email,
those
to
everybody.
You
want
to
they're,
not
a
secret
they're
they're
meant
to
be
distributed,
of
course,
but
yeah.
If
I
could
get
the
email
to
the
and
typically
I'll
work
in
the
city
right.
B
G
Well,
Sergeant,
thanks
for
the
the
report.
You
know
this
is
one
of
those
subjects
that
I
think
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
You
could
see
these
things
out
out
and
about,
and
you
ask
yourself
what
is
that
thing
and
and
then
you
just
go
about
your
business.
You
never
think
about
it
again
until
you
know,
there's
there's
a
guy
at
my
in
in
my
office
building
that
Parks
one
of
these
things
in
a
parking
stall
like
it's
a
motorcycle
and
it's
not
it
it's
like
a
ghost
version
of
a
motorcycle.
G
It's
got
no
engine,
it's
just
a
frame.
You
can
see
a
battery
and
that's
it
but
yeah.
It
wasn't
until
a
recent
trip
to
to
Best
Buy
on
Moorpark
Road
that
you
know
I,
think
of
Best
Buy
as
a
TV
computer
appliance
place.
They've
got
like
a
whole
section
where
they're
selling
scooters
e-bikes.
Whatever
these
things
are
I
imagine
you
know
like
the
Thousand
Oaks
motorsports
place
on
on
the
boulevards.
Also
selling
them
has.
G
Has
the
sheriff's
department
thought
about
going
to
the
retailers
and
offering
to
educate
the
people
that
are
selling
these
things
about
what
the
vehicle
code
says
and
what's
required
when
and
where
you
can
drive
these
things,
because
if
the
sheriff's
department
needs
a
handout,
that's
three
pages
long
and
the
DMV
doesn't
know
what
to
call
this
or
that
or
the
other
thing.
I
can
I'd
be
willing
to
bet
like
a
Best.
Buy
person
doesn't
doesn't
know
either
I.
H
Would
agree
with
you
on
that
we
have
great
relationships
with
several
the
with
bike
shops
and
then
we
we
do
have
with
teal
Power
Sports.
Absolutely
we
buy
a
lot
of
our
motor
gear
there,
great
relationship
with
you
know:
Newbury
Park
bikes.
We
don't
have
a
great
relationship
with
some
other
bike
shops
and
there's
no
communication
there
and
I
I
get
the
feeling
that
there
are
people
who
are
going
to
sell
these
no
matter
what
I
have
had
complaints
where
I
was
told.
This
was
legal
for
the
highway
now
from
the
bike
shop.
H
So
that's
a
that's
another
one
that
maybe
we're
contending
with
too
some
will
not
talk
to
us.
I've
tried
and
then
some
are
more
than
happy
bring
your
whole
staff
down
I'll
set
out
20
bikes
and
you
got
and
I'll
show
you
the
difference
between
one
two
and
three
and
oh
by
the
way:
electric
motorcycles.
We
don't
sell
them.
We
only
sell
bicycles.
So
there's
there
is
there's
a
huge
difference
in
in
the
retail
establishments
here
and-
and
we've
talked
to
them.
Some
are
great.
Some
are
not
very
cooperative.
Well,.
G
My
question
is
you
know
how
do
these
people
cooperate
with
the
with
the
sheriff's
department
if
you
want
to
come
in
and
pass
along
some
helpful
information
which,
by
extension,
is
helping
the
people
who
buy
these
things
and
keeping
them
safer?
So,
but
your
efforts
are
appreciated,
and
certainly
all
of
the
material
you
put
together
here
is
is
really
helpful.
I
just
wish
more
people
had
it.
Thank
you
and
we'll
keep
getting
it
out.
So.
B
E
B
Are
fine
but
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
in
terms
of
of
you
know
the
the
the
detaining
of
the
kids
are
stopping
or-
or
you
know
all
of
what
you
said
in
your
presentation.
Where
are
we
at
in
numbers?
Are
we
an
increase
from
last
year?
Is
it
you
know?
Are
we
you
said
we're
not
close
to
even
Carlsbad,
which
is
great,
but
I,
don't
know
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
as
a
as
a
starting
point.
Our
numbers
well.
H
And
then
you
know,
I
brought
the
Carlsbad
thing.
They
have
different
Dynamics
on
the
beach
right.
It's
you'll
never
be
that
you'll
never
be
Carlsbad,
but
we
just
don't
want
it
to
surprise
us
and
bite
us
where
where'd
this
come
from.
How
do
we
get
out
in
front
of
it?
So
the
numbers
are
a
little
weird,
because
we,
if
you
want
to
talk
about,
seizing
the
bike
totally
now
we
don't
season,
but
we
tell
them
or
they've
been
impounded
for
30
days
or
Rito.
H
That
was
that
is
that
went
from
zero
last
year
to
I
mean
it's,
there's
no
way
to
quantify
that
we're
doing
it
a
lot
we're
actively
enforcing
the
rules
of
the
road
when
it
comes
to
electric
motorcycles,
so
I
do
I,
I
review
I,
don't
I
review
most
of
our
toe
forms
and
we're
doing
this.
We're
doing
this
a
lot
where
we
did
nothing
the
year
before
when
everybody
thought.
Oh,
you
got
electric
bicycle
until
people
start
crashing
and
hurting
themselves
and
it
became
it
became
important.
You
know
cops
on
their
own.
H
Aren't
just
not
are
just
not
going
to
pay
attention
to
kids
on
electric
bikes,
but
now
that
we
know
now
that
my
Department's
been
educated
and
we
know
what
the
motorcycles
are:
yeah:
absolute,
huge
increase
in
enforcement,
the
tickets
and
the
towing
as
far
as
collisions
go,
we
track
collisions
with
miners,
but
surround
Collision
would
be
a
motorcycle.
Collisions
we'd
have
to
look
through
the
Collision
reports,
but
okay,
pretty
good.
H
Even
though
I
don't
review
every
Collision
report,
I
have
a
pretty
good
beat
on
it
and
if
there's
a
Sauron
Collision,
that's
an
injury
crash,
I'm
going
to
know
about
it
and
outside
of
the
Newbury
Park
one
and
I
think
one
more
where
it's
minor.
We
haven't
had
it
I'm,
not
gonna,
but
I'm,
not
gonna
brag,
but
I
I,
think
I,
I!
Think
in
the
last
six
months
our
proactive
enforcement
of
the
sarons
is
a
contributing
factor.
H
It
has
to
be
just
by
definition
with
this
kind
of
a
zero
tolerance,
the
sarons
and
then
you
know
the
citation
does
get
them
into
the
juvenile
court
for
a
traffic
hearing
too,
and
then
they
cannot
get
the
appropriate
license
when
they're
older,
but
no,
not
a
huge
increase.
You
know
we
outside
of
that.
The
big
crash
we
had
I
think
it
was
February
and
the
Newburyport
or
in
DOS
Vientos.
Nothing
well,.
B
B
Pretty
sure
it
was
a
a
electric
motorcycle,
just
zoom
across
the
park
there,
yeah
and
I
just
I
did
the
exact
thing
of
looking
up
and
going
I
wonder
what
that
is
and
back
to
living
my
life,
but
I
appreciate
and
I
can
understand.
You're
you're
in
a
conundrum
and
I
guess
pushing
aside
the
the
large
amount
of
questions
I
have
at
what
what
needs
to
be
done
at
the
state
level,
because,
obviously
you
need
money.
We
need
to
change
the
vehicle
code.
B
B
H
I
think
with
regards
to,
for
instance,
the
electric
motorcycles.
We
classify
them
as
motorcycles,
so
I
don't
think
there
is
anything
the
city
needs
to
do
with
that
there's.
So
many
violations
that
commit
Us
by
having
us
on
the
street
and
I
went
over
just
I
mean
just
to
name
a
few
headlights.
Brake
lights,
turn
signals
I
mean
there's
just
it's
amazing
license
plate
registration,
a
registered
owner
of
you
know,
there's
so
many
things
right,
there's
license
requirements,
juveniles
they
have
M1
there
I,
don't
think
there
is
a
immunicode
that
we
could
do.
H
That
would
make
enforcement
any
easier.
I.
Think
enforcement
of
the
surons
on
public
lands
on
city
property
is
is
very
easy.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
it's
an
unregistered
off
highway
vehicle
on
the
highway
and
that's
that's
an
easy
stop.
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
there's
as
far
as
these
there's
there's
really
anything
I
think
that
the
active,
like
you
said
now,
you
saw
one
earlier.
You
never
saw
them
before
they
were
there,
but
now
that
you
know
what
they
are
and
they're
out
there
like.
Oh,
you
see
them
all
the
time.
H
So
our
our
shifts
and
our
crews
know
to
look
for
them
and
they're
pulling
them
over
and
writing
tickets.
So
I
I,
don't
think
there's
any
mini
code
that
would
Trump
maybe
a
driving
without
a
license.
Citation
or
you
know
a
citation
without
a
registered
vehicle.
I
think
I
think
we
have
plenty
of
enforcement
options
without
the
city.
The
only
thing
I
would
I
would
say:
maybe
would
be
the
the
the
open
space
areas
where
we're
not
going
to
get
we're.
H
The
average
patrol
officer
is
not
going
to
catch
anyone
open
space
running
it's
not
going
to
happen.
They
can
go
60
miles
an
hour,
we're
not
going
to
catch
them,
but
that
might
be
immunicode
no,
but
I
think
it
already
exists.
If
it's
already
prohibiting
dirt
bikes,
it
would
prohibit
these
so
I.
Don't
nothing
right
now.
Do
you
agree
on
that?
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything!
We
could
do
that
we'd
already
have
I
think
we
have
plenty
good.
B
Well,
I
mean
the
only
other
thing
that
I
would
think
is.
Maybe
I
know
we
have
a
this
I
guess
what
website
presence
is
there
for
all
this
information
to
direct
parents
and
and
kind
of
coming
back
off
of
commissioner
Callahan's
question
I
mean
even
just
the
the
I
know.
We
have
the
walk
to
schoolto.org,
but
what
else
you
know,
can
we
get
a
bigger
website
presence
for
this
information
or
or
yeah
help.
H
K
Don't
know
how
to
do
that:
yeah,
I,
guess
and
follow-up
to
that
to
dovetail
with,
with
the
city's
launching
a
whole
new
website
effort
and
Alex
South,
who
is
just
here,
she's
leading
that
effort
up
and
so
we're
basically
redesigning
a
new
website
from
scratch.
That's
you
know
more
Nimble
and
easier
to
find
things
and
more.
You
know
streamlined
and
modern.
K
Yeah
several
of
the
pages
are
buried
so
that
that's
the
we're
going
to
consolidate
things
and
make
make
less
right
now.
There's
there's
too
many
layers
to
the
to
the
onion
and
we're
gonna
make
it.
You
know
make
the
ones
that
need
to
stand
out
stand
out
a
little
bit
better
and
that's
definitely
one
I'll
I'll
make
sure
we
do.
B
That's
perfect,
I
mean
I.
I
would
appreciate
it.
Just
getting
you
know,
website
presence
I
mean
the
kids
don't
go
on
there,
but
the
parents
would
I
think
another.
Just
practical
thing
and
I
mentioned
it
earlier
in
in
Miss
Sal's
presentation,
but
I'd
invite
you.
If
you
haven't
already
one
of
your
representatives,
come
to
the
the
district
advisory
council
meeting
for
the
CVUSD
I.
Believe
it's
the
second
Tuesday
morning
of
the
month.
I
can
talk
to
you.
After
about
it.
B
A
B
I
know
you
do
a
great
job
of
going
around
to
different
schools
and
giving
talks
and
stuff,
but
you
have
the
high
schools
there,
the
middle
schools
and
the
and
the
elementary.
So
you
have
everybody
in
the
same
room
that
at
least
can
take
back
that
information
to
the
PTA
and
and
that
individual
School
site,
and
then
hopefully
you
know,
connect
everybody,
okay,
you
know
and
I
think
just.
Thirdly,
just
real
quick
I
mean
practically
if
you're
not
getting
support
from
the
from
the
businesses.
B
You
know
you
can.
The
city
is
able
to
do
a
a
resolution
ordinance
or
something
directing
the
businesses
if
they're
going
to
operate
and
sell
these
bikes
that
they
have
to
give
out
certain
information.
If
you
want
that
information
and
you're,
not
getting
that
from
businesses,
okay
and
I,
think
I
I
know
a
few
bike
shops
that
are
probably
not
Cooperative
with
you.
B
E
B
H
Okay,
Barbara
Ballinger,
the
comment
or
question
is
all
motorized
bikes
should
have
licenses
on
them,
so
you
can
track
who's
breaking
the
law.
I
agree.
Everyone
should
receive
a
mail
out
in
the
mail
not
to
have
to
count
on
people
going
to
the
website.
Okay,
I
guess
two-part.
The
first
part
is
I
agree.
H
K
Yeah
and
I
can
touch
on
that
that
promotion
once
we
establish
this
new
website
and
we
put
a
nice
pager
portal
together
that
has
some
of
these
tools
and
information.
Then
we
can,
you
know,
distribute
that
in
different
ways,
whether
it's
you
know
through
social
media
or
other
through
the
acorn
and
so
forth.
That
kind
of
get
the
word
out
that
here's,
a
here's,
a
portal
that
you
know
parents
can
check
and
get
familiar
with
what
the
rules
and
requirements
are
for
some
of
these
different
vehicles
and
yeah.
So
we
can
definitely
do
that.
E
B
M
M
So,
let's
start
with
our
first
Street
Los
Padres
Drive
between
Moore
Park,
Road
and
Rolling
Oaks
Drive.
The
left
image
shows
a
vicinity
map
indicating
the
street
is
to
the
south
of
the
101
freeway
and
east
of
Moore
Park
Road,
and
then
on
the
larger
location
map
to
the
right.
It
highlights
the
road
segment.
That's
just
over
half
a
mile
in
length.
M
Okay.
So
this
photo
right
here
shows
a
possible
concept
to
add
white
Edge
line
striping
approximately
eight
feet
from
the
curb
on
both
sides
of
the
street
to
identify
a
parking
Lane
that
would
effectively
narrow
the
existing
23
foot,
wide
travel,
Lanes
to
15
feet
in
width
and
encourage
slower
driving
speeds.
The
road
striping
can
help
improve
roadway,
Clarity
and
safety
in
response
to
Citizen
concerns
over
two
collisions
that
took
place
in
the
past
42
months,
where
Park
Vehicles
were
struck.
M
A
white
Edge
line
striping
is
a
counter
measure
to
help
correct
and
reduce
the
frequency
of
this
Collision
pattern.
The
city
has
implemented
this
type
of
treatment
on
Hillcrest
Drive
between
hoden
Camp
Road
and
the
23
freeway
Lakeview
Canyon
Road
West
of
Lindero
Canyon
Road,
and
both
improvements
have
been
well
received
by
the
public
and
residents
fronting
the
roadway.
M
The
Collision
history
is
not
an
indicative
issue
of
a
chronic
problem
along
the
street.
The
edgeline
Proposal
may
be
considered
a
visual
aesthetic
impact.
So
therefore
we're
asking
for
the
resident
Supply
provide
feedback
on
any
striping
concept
for
the
street.
So
at
this
time
we
received
three
emails
from
residents
expressing
opposition
to
the
edgeline
proposal
and
that
information
was
provided
to
you
before
this
meeting
and
then
for
our
Second.
Street.
M
Here
is
a
vicinity
map
that
shows
the
one
mile
segment
of
Sunset
Hills
Boulevard
between
the
23
Freeway
to
the
easterly
and
where
the
emphasis
is
to
convert
the
existing
bike
Lanes
into
buffered
bike
Lanes
to
create
more
separation
between
cars
and
bikes
and
I'll,
be
showing
you
concept,
drawings
of
the
proposed
striping
within
the
project
limits
for
this
location.
We
sent
out
184
mailers
to
the
region
circled
in
green.
M
So
since
it
Hills
Boulevard,
there's
three
separate
treatments
depending
on
the
road
segment
and
here's
the
first
one.
The
segment
is
from
the
23
freeway
to
herbs
Road.
The
number
one
eastbound
travel
Lane
can
be
converted
to
a
right
turn
only
lane
at
the
intersection
with
herbs
Road.
Our
observations
indicate
that
the
drivers
in
the
number
two
lane
already
use
this
as
a
right
turn
only
lane.
M
This
is
the
segment
from
Sunset
Hills
Boulevard
to
Avenida
amaranto
we're
the
number
two
Eastbound
Lane
is
eliminated
to
create
a
parking
Lane
in
front
of
Sunset
Hills
Park.
Currently,
vehicles
are
permitted
to
park
in
the
bike
lane.
The
standard
bike
lane
along
this
eastbound
direction
would
be
upgraded
to
a
buffered
bike
lane
and
in
the
westbound
Direction.
A
buffered
bike
lane
would
be
created
by
narrowing
the
two
through
travel
Lanes.
M
M
So
with
that,
the
recommendation
is
in
the
staff
report,
we're
open
to
feedback
on
the
proposed
striping
options
for
the
two
streets
staff
can
either
weave
the
collective
input
on
into
the
final
restriping
options
presented
or
develop
a
new
striping
variation
option
as
appropriate.
So
with
that,
that
concludes
the
presentation.
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
of
the
commission.
Thank
you.
B
G
G
L
G
Alluded
to
it
in
your
presentation,
it
says
in
both
instances
a
vehicle
struck,
a
parked
vehicle.
One
incident
occurred
in
July
2021,
where
a
driver
reportedly
fell
asleep
and
was
cited
for
unsafe
speed.
A
second
incident
occurred
in
December
2022,
but
there
are
no
facts
given
about
the
December
2022
Collision.
Do
you
happen
to
know
anything
about
that
that
Collision,
in
terms
of
its
cause.
M
D
M
Okay,
I,
the
two
streets
that
come
to
mind
are
Hillcrest
Drive
for
the
proposal
for
Los
Los
Padres
Drive,
where
we
add
edgeline
striping,
is
the
the
segment
on
Hillcrest
Drive
between
the
23
freeway
and
hoden
Camp,
as
well
as
Lakeview
Canyon,
Road,
East
of
or
west
of
landero
Canyon
Road
in.
In
both
those
instances
there
were
concerns
with
vehicle
speeds
and
also
the
the
narrowness
of
the
travel
Lanes.
M
So
by
putting
in
an
edge
line,
it
helps
to
Define
the
more
the
path
of
where
the
vehicle
should
be
placed
in
relation
to
park.
Vehicles
on
the
road
that
way,
cars
that
would
be
parked
on
the
street
The
Edge
line
would
help
cars
sort
of
steer
clear
and
try
to
stay
away
from
parked
vehicles
and
keep
them
more
in
a
constrained
area,
and-
and
you
know
in
addition
to
that,
it
would
help-
hopefully
influence
lower
speeds,
but
in
both
those
instances
after
the
edgeline
striping
was
installed.
M
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Thank
you.
Mr
machico
I
just
want
to
a
couple
questions,
one
one
on
the
staff
report
and
then
just
want
to
walk
through
some
of
the
the
email
comments
just
to
kind
of
flesh
out
what
was
being
discussed.
Juan
do
we
do
we
have
an
idea
on
these
particular
roads.
Kind
of
the
traffic
counts
that
we're
seeing
just
on
a
on
a
you
know
during
our
Peak
our
peak
hours,
when
we
really
would
you
know
discuss
you
know
those
numbers.
M
Okay,
we
don't
have
peak
hour
counts,
but
we
basically
have
some
daily
traffic
counts
for
Los
Padres
Drive.
The
daily
traffic
is
just
under
2
000
vehicles
per
day,
so
it
usually,
if
you
want
to
look
at
a
peak
hour.
Typically,
the
peak
hour
is
about
like
10
of
of
the
daily.
So
maybe
during
that
peak
hour
yeah
you,
you
might
have
200
Cars
along
the
street.
You
know
100
in
each
Direction
and
then
for
Sunset
Hills
Boulevard,
our
daily
traffic
counts
were
4
000
vehicles
per
day,
east
of
herbs
Road.
M
B
Perfect,
thank
you
just
turn
into
the
emails
and
I'll
give
you
a
second.
If
you
need
to
grab
them.
I
just
want
to
walk
through
just
real
quick,
some
of
the
suggestions
in
the
in
the
emails
and
then
perhaps
we
can
get
just
a
brief
response
as
to
why
or
why
not.
One
is
preferred
over
the
other.
What
the
process
is
to
fix
one
or
the
other.
B
There
were
some
emails
discussing
well,
it's
easy,
lower
the
speed
limit
and
then,
secondly,
is
adding
I.
Think
I
saw
a
a
the
reason
for
adding
striping
and
I
think
you
briefly
touched
on
it
with
commissioner
Callahan,
but
the
visual
perception
and
kind
of
slowing
of
the
driver
when
there's
a
extra
white
line
there.
If
you
could
just
kind
of
walk
through
some
of
that
real
quick,
please.
M
Okay,
I
think
you
mentioned.
First
was
a
possible
lowering
of
the
speed
limit.
That
was
one
of
the
concerns
raised
in
these
emails
that
we
received.
That's
something
that's
not
really
part
of
this
project,
but
that's
something
that
we
would
consider
you
know
after
if,
if
there
were
any
striping
to
be
implemented
for
Los,
Padres
drive
or
basically
most
streets
that
are
not
residential
streets,
when
we
set
a
speed
limit,
we
do
we
set
it
according
to
state
law,
where
we
basically
go
out.
M
There
observe
traffic,
take
a
measurement
of
100
vehicles
and
based
on
what
those
vehicles
are
traveling.
We
set
the
speed
limit
according
to
what
those
vehicles
are
driving
so
for
I
believe
on
Los
Padres
Drive.
The
speed
limit
is
35
miles
an
hour.
It's
because
most
of
the
people
are
driving
at
or
at
or
around
35
miles
an
hour
Sunset
Hills,
Boulevard
I
believe
the
speed
limit
out
there
was
is
either
40
or
45
miles
an
hour
same
same
thing.
M
We
did
the
same
procedure,
we
did
observations
of
of
the
traffic
recorded
them
and
then,
according
to
what
people
are
driving.
That's
how
we
set
the
speed
limit
again
if
this
road,
all
roads
anytime
after
a
resurfacing
project,
is
completed
about
three
months
after
the
fact
we
would
go
out
there
and
resurvey
the
street
to
see
whether
or
not
it
qualifies
for
a
lower
speed
limit,
because
there's
a
you
know,
a
notable
change
to
the
traffic
conditions.
So
that's
something
that
we
always
perform
after
the
fact.
B
K
I
can
just
piggyback
on
that
perhaps
Jim
you
can
mention.
You
can
touch
on
the
typical
response
once
you
that
is
achieved
in
terms
of
reduction
in
speeds
once
lanes
are
narrowed.
You
know
you
take
a
average
street
with
a
15
or
17,
or
a
very
wide
travel,
Lane
and
narrow
them
down
to
11
12
feet.
There
are.
There
is
some
literature
in
the
in
the
state
that
there
is
some
measurable
observation
of
reduced
speed
on
a
typical
basis.
M
Yeah
well,
typically,
you're
not
going
to
see
a
dramatic
reduction
in
speed
just
by
paint
alone.
You
know
if
you
can
narrow
the
travel
Lanes.
If
there's
going
to
be
a
reduction,
it's
going
to
be
maybe
two
to
three
miles
miles
per
hour,
and
that
may
be
enough
to
justify
lowering
the
speed
limit
by
the
to
the
you
know.
Next,
five
mile
per
hour,
increment
lower.
So
for
Los
Padres.
If
you
know
they're
striping
added
a
couple
miles
per
hour
is
reduced
from
the
from
the
radar
survey.
B
B
This
isn't
you
know
we
don't
typically
I,
guess
what
I'm
getting
there's
a
comment
in
one
of
the
emails
talking
about
how
well
this
is.
This
is
something
about
business
districts
typically,
do
this
versus
residential
districts
and
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
this
is
something
that
can
be
done
in
residential
neighborhoods.
M
Yes,
I
mean
actually
any
any
roadway.
You
know,
striping
can
be
used
to
help
calm
traffic,
whether
you
know
major
streets.
You
know
where
we
are
always
going
to
have
Road
striping,
to
guide
motorists
through
multi-lanes
and
make
sure
they're
in
their
proper.
You
know
proper
path,
these
streets
that
have
more
or
less
these
wider
streets
that
have
residential
Frontage.
A
M
E
G
Thank
you,
chair,
Mr,
Michiko,
I,
think
I
also
saw
in
in
the
one
of
the
emails
regarding
the
complaint
about
speed
and
lowering
the
speed
limit
somebody
and
this
pops
up,
often
where
somebody
doesn't
like
the
speed,
that's
occurring
in
or
around
their
their
home,
and
they
suggest
speed
bumps.
But
this
commission
has
traveled
that
road
many
times
before
and
there
are
warrants
or
criteria
that
have
to
be
met
in
order
for
Speed
bumps
to
be
installed
right.
M
Yes,
that's
that's
correct.
The
speed
hump
policy
that
we
currently
have
is
only
for
residential
streets,
as
defined
by
the
vehicle
code
and
residential
street
is
a
road.
That's
no
wider
than
40
feet
curb
to
curb,
and
also
there's
a
certain
residential
density
that
must
be
present
on
that
street.
It's
in
a
quarter
mile
distance.
You
have
either
16
homes
on
both
sides
or
13
homes.
On
one
side,
Los
Padres
Drive
does
not
qualify
as
a
residential
street
because
it's
wider
than
40
feet
I
believe
it's
46
feet
curb
to
curb.
M
Yeah,
if
someone
was
interested
in
seeing
whether
or
not
their
neighbors
support
the
idea
of
speed
humps
on
their
street,
they
they
can
contact
our
staff
and
we'd
be
glad
to
provide
them
all
the
information.
There's
a
resolution
that
summarizes
what
the
requirements
are
in
terms
of
there's
a
petition
requirement.
C
B
Thank
you,
Mrs
Vasquez
and,
let's
see
I'll,
actually
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
in-house
public
comments
and
then
I'll
turn
to
the
our
Zoom
speaker
this
evening.
So
please
be
patient.
If
you're
on
Zoom
as
Mrs
Vasquez
said,
you'll
have
three
minutes
and
their
first
speaker
is
Edward
Taren
deck
I.
Hopefully
I
got
that
name
right.
O
Yeah,
you
know
I,
guess:
I
got
this
notice
last
week
and
was
kind
of
looking
it.
Over
and
last
year,
I
was
kind
of
spending
a
little
time
trying
to
deal
with
some
of
the
issues
that
are
before
us.
So
I
was
talking
to
City
Engineers
about
the
streets
in
in
my
area,
and
so
that
included
more
Park,
the
corner
of
Los,
Padres
and
more
Park,
and
then
the
speed
that's
on
Los
Padres.
O
So
they
did
do
a
traffic
survey
and
and
lo
and
behold,
some
of
the
results
that
Jim
talked
about
as
far
as
how
many
people
came
by
and
they
came
to
the
conclusion
that
instead
of
the
speed
on
more
Park
going
down,
it
should
stay
at
40.
Even
so,
they
took
the
35
down
and
put
the
40
to
make
that
even
but
I
was
asking
for
a
little
more
like.
O
Maybe
a
stop
sign
at
that
same
intersection,
maybe
a
crosswalk,
because
there's
a
lot
of
pedestrian
traffic
going
there
and
I
think
there's
a
handicap.
Sidewalk
comes
on
one
side
of
Moorpark
and
you
get
to
those
Padres
and
then
the
sidewalk
continues
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
There's
handicap
ramps
on
both
sides,
but
no
crosswalk.
O
So
as
far
as
the
speed
on
those
Padres,
it
definitely
needs
to
come
down
and
I
wanted
to
ask
you
to
look
at
the
city.
Actually,
the
state
code,
ab43
and
ab43
allows
governments,
leeway,
City
governments,
leeway
and
business
and
residential
areas
identified
as
safety
corridors
without
following
the
85th
percentile
rule
I.
Think
that's
what
Jim
was
talking
about,
that
state
law
governs
basically.
O
The
the
speed
that's
in
the
area
based
on
their
surveys,
that
we
have
to
kind
of
stay
with
that
speed
and
so
now
we're
trying
to
bring
that
thing
down
by
putting
lines
on
the
street
when
I
think.
If
we
we
kind
of
look
toward
what
Long
Beach
in
La
is
looking
to
reduce
speed
to
make
our
streets
safer,
so
I
know,
speed,
kills
and
getting
fast
with
our
cars
to
and
from.
We
think
that's
important.
But
you
know
schools
are
trying
to
do
walk
to
schools.
O
J
Sure
my
name
is
excuse
me:
Lynn,
Burdick
and
I
live
on
Los,
Padres
drive
and
I've
lived
there
for
26
years
and
after
I
reviewed
the
proposed
roadway
striping
on
those
Padres
and
also
on
Rolling
Oaks.
My
priority
would
have
been
as,
as
he
pointed
out,
that
we
we
first
Target
a
speed
limit
reduction.
I
mean
I
was
willing
to
work
with
the
city
in
terms
of
anything
that
they
could
do
to
help
us.
So
I
had
put
down
that
I
would
be
okay
with
this
striping
I
know.
J
J
I've
actually
had
a
spin
out
of
a
vehicle
right
in
front
of
my
house.
No
other
cars
involved.
The
truck
ended
up
on
its
side.
The
guy
had
a
climb
out
of
the
passenger
window.
Speed
is
a
problem
and
we
also
do
get
ambulances
that
come
down
with
Sirens
to
the
Tosh
medical
facility,
which
they
don't
belong
on
Los
Padres.
They
should
be
on
Rolling
Oaks
if
you're
going
to
do
any
kind
of
striping.
J
If
that's
what
the
committee
agrees
to,
we
don't
want
to
minimize
the
parking
that
already
is
there,
so
don't
put
a
strike
that
eliminates
the
parking.
Okay
I'm,
also
asking
that
there
would
be
some
curbs
that
are
painted
for
loading
and
unloading
in
a
time
zone
along
the
apartment
complex,
and
the
reason
is
because
there
is
a
blind
curve.
J
If
you
go
back
to
the
map,
there
is
a
blind
curve
on
the
apartment,
complex
and
that's
a
big
problem
when
you're
having
a
speed
situation
going
on
and
if
we
could
eliminate
the
double
parking
issue.
That
might
also
help
with
some
safety
issues
with
the
apartment
complex
and
there
doesn't
exist
that
right
now
and
the
same
thing
is
at
the
back
of
the
Tosh
Hospital
there's
also
a
No
Parking
Zone.
But
yet
you
have
loading
unloading
going
on
with
the
hospital
okay.
J
So
my
point
being
is
that
people
are
not
paying
any
attention
to
what's
going
on
in
terms
of
the
traffic
laws.
So
if
there's
no
enforcement
or
Consequences
people
are
going
to
pay
attention
to
it.
So
just
painting
lines
on
the
street
may
not
be
the
answer,
even
though
I
said
I
would
approve
it
I'm
willing
to
come
to
the
table
and
say
what
can
you
do
to
help
us
and
if
that
doesn't
work,
we
need
to
move
further
and
we
also
have
a
looming
project.
That's
going
through
the
Planning.
J
B
I
Barbara
Ballinger
I
live
on
Los
Padres
Drive
in
Thousand
Oaks
I'm
wondering
if
there's
going
to
be
in
an
interruption
of
the
striping
at
mailboxes
or
whether
the
curb
will
be
painted
red
there
or
have
some
diagonals
so
that
people
know
that
they're
not
supposed
to
park
in
front
of
the
mailboxes,
because
I
think
the
striping
for
the
parking
is
going
to
make
them.
Think.
Oh
I
can
park
anywhere
where
there's
a
line
anyway,
and
also
will
there
be
a
bike
lane.
N
Okay,
my
name
is
Christine
sholey
I'm
in
Thousand
Oaks
on
Los
Padres.
Can
you
go
back
to
the
image
that
shows
the
houses
and
you
actually
see
a
huge
oak
tree
behind
one
of
the
houses?
Okay
right
there
so
see
the
house
with
the
huge
Oak
Tree
in
the
back
there
on
Los
Padres
okay.
So
when
people
are
coming
up,
Los
Padres,
it
comes
at
an
incline.
N
So
if
there's
cars
parked
by
the
house
and
I'm
backing
up,
I
can't
see
that
car
until
it
pretty
much
gets
up
to
the
point
where
the
top
of
the
hill.
What
I'm
saying
it's
you
puts
me
in
a
vulnerable
position:
I
do
not
want
cars
parking
on
my
street
I.
Do
not
wear
residential
we're
a
tight
neighborhood.
We
watch
out
for
each
other.
We
have
the
apartment,
building
down
the
way
by
Rolling
Oaks.
There
are
a
lot
of
cars
down
there.
N
Now,
if
the
striping
was
down
there,
I'd
say
you
know
that's
great,
but
right
in
front
of
those
few
houses
right
there.
I
do
not
want
to
encourage
parking
and
plus
we
have
visitors
at
times
they
can
park
in
front
of
our
house,
and
my
question
is
to
piggyback
on
Lynn.
We
have
another
facility
coming
in
where
young
set
used
to
be
and
I
don't.
I
came
from
the
city
I've,
you
know,
but
born
and
raised.
N
N
Can
they
just
get
a
handle
on
the
speed
and
I
understand
our
streets
are
so
wide,
so
we
can't
do
a
speed
bump,
but
I
bet
we
could
get
75
neighbors
to
be
unanimous
in
getting
those
speed
bumps.
So
that's
my
that's.
My
two
cents
I
want
to
keep
it
the
way
it
is
and
I
want
us
to
watch
out
for
each
other
and
I.
Don't
want
to
put
the
striping
and
I
don't
want
to
encourage
a
parking
lot
on
Los,
Padres
and
I.
Thank
you
for
running
our
city.
The
way
you
do.
Thank
you.
B
M
Okay,
yes,
and
took
some
notes:
basically,
they
all
Center
on
Los,
Padres
drive
and
one
of
the
first
question:
will
there
be
a
parking
to
be
eliminated?
No,
there
will
be
no
change
in
the
allowable
areas
where
parking
would
be
would
be
would
be
used.
So
basically,
all
we're
doing
is
adding
or
we
could
be
adding
an
edge
line.
That's
eight
feet
away
from
the
curve
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
There
will
be
no
diagonal
markings
or
stripings
of
of
any
type
just
be
a
standard
line.
M
That's
shown
on
that
diagram,
that's
on
screen
and
I.
Believe
there
are
some.
You
know
the
striping
will
be
in
front
of
those
the
home,
so
that
will
be
in
front
of
the
mailboxes,
but
the
the
striping
will
not
encourage
or
discourage
parking
on
the
street.
I
think
someone
was
in
the
impression
that
if
you
add
lines,
that's
going
to
encourage
parking
to
occur
on
the
street,
basically
the
lines
serve
to
indicate
the
the
or
you
know
to
define
the
area
to
to
drivers.
M
M
B
G
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
about
that?
Because
this
is
the
first
time
I'm
hearing
it,
because
I
always
thought
that
when
I
lived
in
La
it
was
the
same
thing
sit
you
know,
hands
are
tied.
It's
the
speed
survey
State
mandated
percentile,
but
if
things
are
changing,
I'd
I
would
like
to
get
the
staff's
thoughts.
M
Yeah
I
mean
there's
been
I,
guess
attempts
in
the
past
to
try
to
change
the
speed
limit
law
based
on
setting
the
speed
limit
according
to
85th
percentile
speed
and
over
over
time.
Basically,
what
we're
at
now
is,
if
we're
going
to
lower
the
speed
limit,
it
would
have
to
be
based
on
if
there's
pedestrian
and
bicyclist
activity,
for
example,
if
the
road
had
bike
Lanes,
that's
something
where
we
can
use
a
section
in
the
vehicle
code
to
allow
us
to
drop
the
speed
limit
by
an
additional
five
miles
per
hour.
M
But
on
Los
Padres
drive.
That's
something
bike
lanes
are
not
present,
so
we
can't
use
that
Avenue
I
believe
if
there's
an
issue
with
a
high
Collision
rate,
that's
higher
than
a
comparable
roadway.
That's
not
apparent
to
the
driver,
that's
something
that
we
can
use
to
help
lower
the
speed
limit,
but
as
as
far
as
I
know,
Los
Padres
drive
is
not
is
not
considered
a
high
Collision
rate
for
roadway
and
also
the
the
issue
that
you
thought
or
you
brought
up
that
you
know.
M
Potentially,
if
you
allow
the
drivers
to
set
the
speed
limit
based
on
the
85th
over
time,
the
speed
limit
is
just
going
to
go
up
every
you
know
every
five
years
or
every
10
years.
Every
time
we
do
a
survey
where
it's
speed
Crete,
but
in
terms
of
what
we're
seeing
we
have
not
experienced
speed
creep
throughout
the
city.
M
Part
of
that
might
be
because,
since
the
1990s
we've
been
implementing
these
sort
of
re-striping
proposals
every
time,
there's
an
overlay
we're
narrowing
the
travel
Lanes
we're
adding
bike
Lanes,
where
possible,
so
we're
constricting
in
the
usable
roadway
width
for
for
drivers
and
at
the
same
time,
because
we've
added
the
bike.
Lanes
we've
been
able
to
use
the
sections
of
the
vehicle
code
to
allow
us
to
drop
the
or
maintain
the
speed
limit
to
where
they
are
today.
G
M
I
mean
from
my
experience,
I,
don't
think
I've
seen
that
before,
like
I
said
every
time
we
do
all
our
major
roadways
when
we
do
the
resurfacing
we've
been
implementing
these
sort
of
traffic
calming
striping
measures.
So
if,
if
there
was
we
would
have
if
there
was
speed
creep,
we
would
have
been
probably
here
at
commission
and
also
at
city
council,
raising
speed
limits.
But
we
have
not
been
doing
that.
K
Yeah
and
I
think
a
contributing
factor
to
that
is
we
don't
allow
the
streets
in
Thousand
Oaks.
You
know,
fortunately,
with
the
city
council
support.
We
don't
allow
them
to
deteriorate
to
the
point
where
there's
such
a
drastic
change.
So
when
we
resurface
is
treated
it's
not
going
from,
you
know,
Cobblestone
thing
to
now:
wow
I
finally
got
a
street.
Now
I
can
gun
it.
You
know
it's
kind
of
it's
just
it's
more
of
a
preservation
of
our
asset,
we're
just
resurfacing
to
kind
of
keep
the
streets.
K
G
G
I
didn't
mean
to
suggest
that
the
city's
streets
are,
you
know,
deteriorating
to.
You
know
borderline
non-functionality,
but
it
was
just
like
visually
appealing
when
you
resurface
a
road
it
would
just.
It
would
just
occur
to
me
that
maybe
you
might
have
the
potential
for
Speed
to
increase,
but,
as
Mr
mishiko
had
had
said,
usually
when
you
resurface
a
road,
it
does
that's.
Why
we're
here
right?
It's!
Why
we're
talking
about
this
very
subject?
G
M
I
just
want
to
add
one
more
thing.
On
top
of
that
too
overtime.
Last
20
years
we've
been
adding
or
utilizing
more
tools
out
on
the
roadway,
such
as
radar
feedback
signs.
That's
something
that
we
probably
started
about
15
years
ago
and
we're
trying
to
you
know,
add
more
and
more
radar
feedback
signs
on
our
arterial
streets
where
we
have
the
highest
volume
of
traffic
and
then
the
speed
limits
are.
You
know,
generally
45
miles
an
hour
plus
so
we're
we're
trying
to
implement
those
because
I
know
that's
something.
M
That's
requested
by
the
public
and,
for
example,
Los
Padres
Drive.
The
daily
traffic
is
no
more
than
2
000
vehicles
per
day.
That's
really
a
light
volume
of
traffic
compared
to
you
know,
if
you
say
nearby,
Moore,
Park
Road,
you
know
the
volume
level
in
Moore
Park
is
up
to
20
000
miles
per
day,
so
those
projects-
Drive
oh
yeah
vehicles
per
day
and
in
addition
to
that
too,
we've
been
implementing
our
crosswalks.
We've
been
upgrading
them
to
our
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons.
M
So,
in
addition
to
the
markings
in
the
road
signs
in
the
roadway
we've
implemented
those
rapid
flashers,
you
know
most
people
recognize
them
along
Thousand,
Oaks
Boulevard,
where
they
have
that
high
pulse
pattern.
When
the
when
the
pedestrian
pushes
the
button
and
the
lights
are
blinking,
so
it
really
captures
the
the
eye
of
the
driver.
D
You
I
think
you
would
address
most
of
the
questions
that
came
up
from
our
speakers.
That
I
believe
there
are
a
few
more
though
from
our
first
speaker
that
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
Circle
back
and
give
you
a
an
opportunity
to
respond.
The
gentleman
mentioned
the
possibility
of
adding
a
stop
sign
and
also
a
crosswalk,
and
then
also
you
know
mentioned.
D
M
Foreign
about
the
loading
unloading,
Zone-
that's
something!
That's
really
not
part
of
this
project.
So
we're
really
not
you
know,
looking
at
trying
to
you
know,
go
outside
of
I
guess
tonight.
The
main
question
is
what
the
public
feedback
is
on
the
striping
proposal,
but
in
terms
of
loading
and
unloading
zones,
that's
something
that
we
could
look
separately
outside
the
scope
of
this
project.
M
If
the
apartment
complex
wanted
to
identify
where
they
would
like
to
loading
and
unloading
zones,
that's
something
that
we
can
look
at,
but
at
the
same
time
I
know
I'm
aware
that
the
that
area
as
you
get
North
to
the
towards
the
apartment,
complex,
there's
a
high
demand
for
parking.
So
if
you
eliminate
parking
and
then
create
loading
unloading
zones,
that's
going
to
reduce
your
parking
count,
so
that
means
cars
will
no
longer
be
able
to
park
in
certain
locations.
It's
going
to
push
it
somewhere
else.
M
It
may
get
pushed
to
areas
that
you
know
the
residents
may
not
want
the
cars
pushed
to.
So
that's
something
that
has
to
be
considered
the
question
about
Mark
crosswalks
and
stop
signs.
That's
something
that
we
looked
at.
That's
more
down
by
more
park
off
of
more
Park
Road,
where
Los
Padres,
intersex,
Moore,
Park,
Road
I,
believe
we
did
take.
M
Some
traffic
counts
to
see
whether
or
not
stop
signs
or
signals
qualify,
and
that's
just
you
need
a
very
high
traffic
volume
or
traffic
count
to
qualify
for
those
for
the
for
the
signal
and
it
did
not
meet
the
requirements
and
then,
on
top
of
that,
a
marked
crosswalk.
We
do
have
a
resolution
that
identifies
when
and
where
we
place
marked
crosswalks
they're,
not
there
as
a
basically
a
safety
device.
M
It's
there
to
help
channelize
pedestrians
if
there's
a
high
pedestrian
count,
but
I
think
if
you
you
know,
if
you
were
to
walk
up
and
down
Los
Padres,
Drive
I,
don't
think
you're
going
to
find
us
a
specific
point
where
there's
a
heavy
pedestrian.
You
know
traffic
at
a
certain
location,
but
I
I
think
we
looked
at
that
in
the
past
and
I.
Don't
think
you're
going
to
find
a
specific
point
on
Los
Padres
or
the
intersection
of
Moorpark
at
Los
Padres
that
would
qualify
for
Mark
crosswalk.
B
One
of
the
final
items
mentioned
by
our
speakers
this
evening
involves
the
an
application
in
front
of
our
Planning
Commission
I
just
want
to
confirm,
as
a
former
member,
that
specific
application
will
have
its
own
analysis
as
far
as
traffic
impacts,
and
then
that
will
be
heard
by
our
Planning
Commission.
Is
that
correct.
E
B
Call
for
questions
hearing,
none
I'll,
go
ahead
and
close
this
item
to
public
comments,
open
discussion
among
the
commission,
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
start
and
kind
of
lay
a
quick
Foundation.
Just
to
be
clear.
This
is
an
informational
item
this
evening
we
are
not
taking
a
vote.
This
is
purely
a
opportunity
for
staff
to
hear
your
comments,
be
able
to
respond
to
them
and
then
kind
of
take
it
all
together
and
fuse
it.
As
it
does
say,
in
our
staff
report.
B
B
B
You
can
talk
directly
with
the
decision
makers,
not
not
the
appointees
of
the
decision
makers
and
then
city
council
will
be
able
to
give
final
direction
as
to
any
particular
item
that
is
being
considered
for
re-striping,
so
I
just
wanted
to
open
it
up
before
I
turned
to
my
fellow
Commissioners
kind
of
lay
that
as
a
baseline,
just
to
make
sure
it's
well
understood
and
by
you
folks,
who
came
out
tonight
and
finally,
I
just
want
to
obviously
say
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
always
coming
out.
B
I
hope,
I,
hope
that
we
were
able
to
receive
your
comments
and
make
sure
that
you
were
heard
answer
those
questions,
get
them
to
staff
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you're
leaving
tonight
with
very
clear
kind
of
indication
as
to
the
next
steps,
because
I
realize
that
can
be
government's
complicated.
It's
confusing,
but
you
do
have
another
opportunity
to
raise
any
comments
based
on
what
staff
decides
to
do
moving
forward.
So
with
that
I'll
just
turn
to
any
of
Commissioners.
Have
any
other
comments?
This
evening,
commissioner,.
E
G
But
to
my
surprise,
it
didn't
really
become.
As
you
know,
the
the
commons
didn't
become
as
intense
as
I
thought
they
would.
But
if,
if
I'm
hearing
the
the
speakers
who
who
attended
tonight,
it's
almost
kind
of
like
I
mean
I'm
I'm,
still
not
getting
that
strenuous
opposition
that
I
that
I
thought
I
would
have
gotten,
because
people
don't
want
the
stripes
in
front
of
their
residence
because
it
makes
it
it
takes
away
from
the
aesthetic
of
the
not
only
their
house
but
of
the
neighborhood
in
general.
G
G
But
I
I
would
like
to
hear
what
you
think
about
it,
because,
as
far
back
as
I
can
remember,
striping
has
always
been
considered
to
be
a
speed
calming
device
and
I
don't
know
on
what
research
that's
based,
but
it
is
always
identified
as
a
speed
calming
measure.
So
just
thought
I
would
kick
off
with
those
thoughts.
D
Yeah
I
think
it
came
through
pretty
clear
from
residents
that
the
speed
is,
is
the
problem
right
and
and
I
think
we
we
hear
you
on
that
and
I
I
think
you're
kind
of
hitting
it
on
the
head
is.
Is
this
going
to
bring
down
this
the
speed
and
I
think
there's
some
research
out
there.
That
says
two
to
three,
but
you
know
it's
kind
of
until
you
do
it.
D
You
don't
totally
know
and
I
think
we're
also
in
this
unique
spot
where
we
have
this
repavement
project
happening
it's
it's
coming
and
then
it's
just
whether
or
not
this
this
gets
looped
into
it
right,
and
so,
when
you're
repaving,
that's
the
time
to
do
the
striping.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
like
you
know
we're
a
little
bit
under
the
you
know.
The
time
crunch
of
like
the
decision
has
to
be
made
so
that
it
can
either
happen
or
not,
but
I
I
think
we
all.
We
all
hear
you
on
it's.
D
B
B
We
heard
a
lot
of
yes
but
or
yes,
however,
where
there's
generally
support
of
the
idea,
but
we're
looking
to
really
attack
and
identify
speed
and
reducing
speed
as
a
broader
issue
and
I.
Think
for
for
our
I
believe,
one
public
comment
in
opposition
really
was
a
concern
about
parking
and
parking
on
the
street,
and
maybe
I
would
invite
staff
to
reach
out
to
the
neighborhood,
and
there
are
options,
I'm
sure
interactions
that
can
be
had
about
how
to
maybe
alleviate
parking
concerns
if
it
becomes
a
regular
issue.
B
But
you
know
overall
I
think
you
know
we're
all
here
with
the
same
goal
is
we're
hearing
reduction
of
of
speed
on
Los
Padres
drive.
This
to
me
sounds
like
a
start,
because
we
did
hear
from
staff
that
three
four
months
after
the
restriping
gets
done.
We
can
go
out
and
take
a
look
at
it,
and
and
and
and
and
do
that
survey
to
see
if
we
can
get
that
reduction
in
speed.
B
It
may
only
be
two
three
four
miles
an
hour,
but
I
I
have
read
surveys
just
because
I
or
excuse
me
reports
just
because
I
was
curious
too,
on
how
restriping
can
reduce
speed,
and
it's
really
a
perception
issue
from
the
driver.
Standpoint
I'm
looking
at
the
Sergeant
he's
not
giving
me
a
nod
so
I'm,
assuming
maybe
maybe
I
misread
it,
but
no
there's
I
think
this
is
the
first
step
of
potential
multi-steps
in
which
we
can.
B
B
E
G
So
I
generally
agree
with
your
comments
regarding
the
the
project,
as
it
relates
to
Sunset,
Hills
Boulevard
and
to
credit
the
staff
on
on
the
those
those
Padres
section
of
the
resurfacing
project.
I
mean
they
have
obviously
diagnosed
speed
as
an
issue,
and
so
their
solution,
which
you
don't
need
warrants
and
criteria
for
all
this
stuff,
is
painting
lines
right.
G
So,
curiously,
though,
I
I
kind
of
have
a
little
bit
of
a
different
view
of
maybe
how
the
how
the
staff
should
you
know
receive
the
comments
about
the
striping
which
is
I
I,
perceive
that
there's
General
support
for
it.
Perhaps
there's
some
ambivalency
there,
but
the
people
who
really
oppose
it,
like
really
oppose
it.
I
mean
you
hear
their
writing
in
capital,
letters,
exclamation
marks
and
they're
yelling
about
the
speed,
and
it
seems
like
they.
They
don't
want
the
lines
they
want.
G
K
Yeah,
if
I
could
just
quickly
address
that
if
we
were
implementing
a
permanent
change
on
the
street
narrowing
the
actual
roadway
changing
the
curbs
doing
some
significant
permanent
modification,
then
there
would
be
probably
multiple
levels
of
you
know:
input
and
mailers
and
Community
meetings
and
so
forth.
But
since
this
is
apparently
benign,
there's
triumphal,
Canyon
Road
the
residential
portion
right
near
trying
to
park
has
this
Lakeview
Canyon
several
other
streets.
You
know
Jim
only
alluded
to
a
few
of
them
and
that
the
fact
that
this
is
just
you
know,
paint
on
the
ground.
K
This
is
not
some
sort
of
permanent
barriers
are
being
put
or
curb,
changing
and
so
forth.
So
I
guess
based
on
those
factors
and
the
fact
that
the
striping
can
be
removed
fairly
easily
as
well.
You
know
because
we
don't
see
the
multiple
layers
of
of
opportunity
for
input,
since
people
had
the
opportunity
to
to
write
email
in
attend
via
Zoom
attendant
person
and
so
forth.
K
So-
and
there
will
be
this
project
as
chair
Pletcher
mentioned,
we'll
be
going
to
the
city
council
for
final
approval,
but
that's
the
entire
Paving
project
with
the
entire
package
and
everything
and
the
Project's
going
out
to
bid
at
that
point.
So
that's
probably
not
the
venue,
that's
why
we
have
this
venue
here
that
venue
in
city
council
approving
is
probably
not
the
venue
to
discuss
changing
the
project
because
then
we're
we're
potentially
risking.
You
know,
delaying
the
entire
project
over
one
one
area
and
one
of
the
reasons
we've
been
able
to
resurface.
K
So
much
roadway
is
we
we
get
in
early
and
we
get
contractors
before
it's
too
late
in
the
spring
and
summer
when
they're
too
busy.
So
we
can
we
kind
of
bid
these
jobs
in
the
winter
when
they're.
These
pavement
contractors
are
looking
for
work
so
having
a
delay
at
that
at
the
end
to
try
to
go
back
and
redesign,
something
would
could
potentially
be.
You
know
impactful,
but
generally
the
the
Outreach
that
we've
provided
on
this
particular
street
is
consistent
with
what
we've
done
anytime.
G
Yeah
sure
I
mean
and
look
I
mean.
There's,
there's
probably
going
to
be
some
people
that
are
look.
The
city's
got
to
make
a
decision
they're
going
to
be
some
people
that
are
unhappy
with
it
and
they're
going
to
be
people
that
are
happy
with
it
and
that
that's
true
for
all
of
us,
no
matter
what
neighborhood
we
live
in.
So
I
guess
you
know,
you'll
take
the
comments
that
you
heard
tonight
and
digest
them
and
come
up
with
the
best
approach
that
you
think
is
most
appropriate.
D
The
speed
come
down
right
and
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
take
a
step
in
that
direction
right
and
so,
knowing
that
we
have
this
this
project
coming
up
and
that
we
don't
have
another
alternative
on
the
board
right
now
to
bring
down
speed,
I
I
think
it's
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
As
as
our
chair
mentioned,
you
know,
there's
there
may
be
other
layers.
There
may
be
other
mechanisms,
other
things
that
are
added
on
over
time,
but
I
I
think
this
is.
D
B
B
K
B
B
B
I
do
have
just
one
brief
comment.
You
know
again
I'm
very
grateful
for
our
our
new
website
on
walking
to
school.
I
did
just
get
an
email
shortly
before
our
meeting
from
Lang
Ranch
Elementary,
the
PTA
has
put
together
on
Wednesday
October
4th
is
actually
National
walk
to
school
day
and
the
PTA
has
put
together
a
walk
to
school
day
for
Lang
Ranch.
Elementary,
specifically,
it
says,
join
your
friends
and
parents
to
celebrate
the
benefits
of
walking
to
school.
B
Thousand
Oaks
police
officers
will
be
on
campus
to
welcome
you
and
we
will.
We
look
forward
to
seeing
you
on
the
sidewalks
from
what
I've
heard
from
discussions
with
that
elementary
school,
that
this
is
a
yearly
tradition
and
I'm
just
glad
to
see
elementary
schools
kind
of
taking
the
initiative
and
running
it
through
their
PTA
and
I'm
planning
to
actually
email
this
over
to
the
city
to
be
included
up
on
the
website
in
terms
of
just
Outreach,
because
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
great
thing.
It's
good
to
see:
Lang
Ranch.