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Description
Traffic and Transportation Advisory Commission Meeting - July 26, 2023
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Speakers
for
a
specific
agenda
items
shall
be
called
and
heard
during
that
specific
item.
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
traffic
commission
as
a
whole.
It's
speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record
under
State
Law
Public
comment.
Matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
traffic
commission
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
maybe
you
referred
to
the
city
engineer
for
administrative
follow-up.
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The
city
council
directed
Staff
last
year
to
work
with
the
traffic
commission
to
develop
a
new
city-wide
crossing
guard
program
policy
and
standard.
This
process
concluded
with
the
adoption
of
this
new
crossing
guard
policy
that
the
council
approved
five
months
ago
on
February
2023.,
which
is
to
take
effect
this
starting
this
fall
for
the
upcoming
school
year.
The
new
standards
are
more
generous
than
the
Statewide
standards
used
by
most
public
agencies
and
have
minimum
qualifying
thresholds
that
are
typically
generally
half
of
what
the
state
standards
typically
require.
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The
process
for
conducting
the
annual
accounts
is
listed
on
this
slide.
Typically,
this
would
be
the
time
where
staff
would
present
information
on
added
or
removed
locations
for
the
following
school
year.
However,
due
to
the
final
city,
council
policy,
no
changes
or
removal
of
any
locations
will
take
place
for
the
upcoming
school
year,
since
the
policy
does
not
take
effect
until
the
upcoming
school
year.
Therefore,
these
years
counts
were
completed
just
for
consistency
and
are
being
presented
for
the
record.
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There
are
currently
24
School
crossing
guard
location,
city-wide
at
20
campuses,
comprised
of
15
elementary
and
five
middle
schools
with
Sycamore
being
a
combined
K-8
complex.
The
crossing
guard
program
has
a
program
manager,
one
lead
guard,
a
senior
guard
and
approximately
28
crossing
guards
when
fully
staffed.
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G
This
slide
also
depicts
the
various
types
of
intersection
control
at
each
of
the
staff
staffed
Crossings,
including
those
with
no
intersection
control,
as
well
as
those
with
the
many
with
enhanced
crosswalks,
always
stop
signs
and
full
traffic
signal
systems,
which
is
on
the
color
code
at
the
bottom.
There,
as
I
mentioned
crossing
guards,
are
stationed
at
different
intersection
types.
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The
annual
pedestrian
and
vehicle
counts
are
done
in
coordination
with
published
school
bell
schedules
in
an
effort
to
maximize
pedestrian
vehicle
numbers.
The
counts
are
done
for
a
full
hour
in
the
morning
and
in
the
afternoon,
and
typically
Tuesdays
through
Thursdays
during
good
weather,
regular
Bell
schedules
and
not
close
to
major
holidays.
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This
year's
counts
were
conducted
between
early
March
and
early
May,
with
a
three-week
break
in
between
of
seizing
any
counts
adjacent
to
spring
break.
In
order
to
qualify
for
a
crossing
guard,
a
location
must
meet
both
The
Pedestrian
and
vehicle
minimum
counts
in
the
both
the
am
and
the
PM
hours
per
the
new
policy.
Any
pedestrian
count
of
less
than
10
automatically
disqualifies
a
location.
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The
new
policies
approved
by
Council
also
add
four
additional
criteria
that
can
be
considered
in
order
to
qualify
a
location.
Each
of
those
Alternatives
was
designed
and
inserted
into
the
policy
to
lower
the
minimum
thresholds.
If
that's
certain
special
criteria
was
met
and
now
to
the
results
of
the
spring
2023
counts.
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A
total
of
10
of
the
24
locations
met
the
criteria
for
crossing
guard
placement.
An
11th
location
are
bellezza,
plant
has
shown
in
blue
was
able
to
also
meet
the
requirements
via
one
of
the
new
alternative
Pathways,
which
was
the
75
alternative
in
that
case,
although
that
intersection
did
not
have
the
required
number
of
pedestrians
for
one
of
the
counts,
it
was
able
to
qualify
since
the
other
three
counts
all
met
the
harder
to
achieve
harder
to
meet.
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State
minimums,
therefore
qualified
under
one
of
the
alternative
thresholds
and
here's
the
list
of
the
locations
that
did
not
meet
the
minimum
criteria
or
qualify
under
any
of
the
four
applicable
Alternatives
of
these
13
locations.
The
nine
listed
in
red
did
not
qualify
due
to
extremely
low
pedestrian
counts,
with
single-digit
pedestrians,
either
in
the
AM
or
the
PM,
or
both
the
remaining
four
locations
in
Black
did
not
meet
the
minimum
criteria.
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The
traffic
commission
has
asked
to
receive
this
report
and
take
any
public
testimony
for
the
record,
as
I
mentioned
previously.
The
new
policies
and
standards
go
into
effect
this
upcoming
school
year.
As
such,
there
will
be
no
changes
to
the
program.
During
this
summer
per
the
new
policy,
a
school
will
have
to
fail.
Two
consecutive
counts
before
it
will
be
recommended
for
closure.
This
means
that
the
earliest
an
existing
crossing
guard
location
would
be
recommended
for
closure
would
be
for
the
25-26
school
year.
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Yeah,
so
that
that's
pretty
varied,
we're
really
investing
in
many
different
ways.
One
of
them
is
a
with
physical
infrastructure.
A
few
of
these
locations
are
being
bolstered
with
additional
enhanced
pedestrian
Crossings
over
the
next
few
months,
as
we're
going
out
to
bid
for
that
project.
In
addition,
you
know
where
adding
sidewalks
and
bike
Lanes
throughout
the
city
on
an
annual
basis
with
a
variety
of
capital
projects.
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I
mentioned
earlier,
there
may
be
a
shift
in
certain
campuses
how
people
are
arriving
or
they're
attending
a
school
on
the
other
side
of
town,
so
that
may
have
led
to
some
reduction
in
pedestrian
counts.
But
nonetheless,
we
think,
with
you
know,
doing
a
an
Outreach
campaign.
Building
a
website.
I
know
our
partners
at
the
Thousand
Oaks
Police
Department
participated
in
a
forum
a
few
weeks
ago
and
we're
which
is
the
the
caneo
youth
Coalition.
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J
I
think
I
could
glean
a
little
bit
on
on
that,
so
I
think
before
before
the
pandemic,
the
schools
were
set
up
very
differently
when
the
pandemic
came
and
all
the
additional
lost
learning
time
that
was
allocated
we've.
The
district
has
instituted
a
number
of
after
school
programs,
so
I
think
a
lot
more
kids,
it's
not
necessarily
just
being
driven
or
walking
they're
staying
on
campus
longer.
So
now
we
have
a
number
of
schools.
Majority
of
our
schools
have
either
child
care
or
after
school
enrichment
or
Extended.
J
Learning
opportunities
are
running
into
6
PM,
so
I
notice,
even
in
some
of
these
you'll,
see
some
of
the
morning
counts
are
higher
than
the
the
afternoon
counts.
I
do
have
a
question
about
so
looking
at
like
laying
Ranch
and
then
White,
Chapel
and
Sandhurst.
You
know,
there's
quite
a
few
Crossings
of
students
in
the
morning
was
is
at
93,
but
it
doesn't
meet
the
vehicular
standard
and
but
it
meets
a
pedestrian
standard.
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J
And
I
understand
we,
you
know
the
the
city
council
had
set
these
parameters
and
a
number
of
these
measurements,
I
I,
just
part
of
me-
is
like
kind
of
fearful
in
a
way
of
all
right.
Well,
if
the
vehicle
account
is
probably
low
because
there's
a
higher
count
of
students
walking,
so
if
it
goes
the
other
way
and
and
the
crossing
guard
goes
away
and
maybe
parents
don't
feel
safe,
then
it's
going
to
flip-flop
the
other
way.
J
Just
some.
You
know
a
thought
observation
as
to
especially
when
the
schools
are
located
in
a
really
off
of
a
lot
of
main
roads,
and
it's
really
in
a
in
a
in
a
community
I
think
we
we
see
a
little
bit
of
that
that
pattern
with
the
lower
vehicle
counts,
because
you
know
maybe
those
kids
are
walking
to
school,
so
you're
not
seeing
those
vehicles
but
you're,
seeing
the
high
number
of
the
student
accounts.
This
is
an
observation
thanks.
B
Okay,
just
wanted
to
confirm
my
understanding
of
that
and
then,
even
though
we
have
these
Alternatives,
which
we
we
talked,
what
three
meetings
about
the
Alternatives
this
just
to
confirm
again,
the
way
that
your
staff's
reading
it,
the
single
disc,
single
digit
pedestrian
count
then,
would
Trump
kind
of
any
of
the
Alternatives
right.
So
if
it's
a
single
digit
pedestrian
doesn't
matter
what
the
alternatives
are.
G
B
So
really
it
comes
down
to
you
know
and
I
I
come
back
to
like
Banyan.
You
know
1100
cars
in
the
AM
934
in
the
PM.
It
does
by
our
account,
meet
alternative
four.
If
we
look
at
our
table
so
really
it
comes
down
to
if
AM
and
PM.
If
we
get
11
students
walking,
AM
and
PM,
and
we
go
do
the
count
again
in
theory
that
would
meet,
you
know,
meet
our
alternative
and
then
suddenly
that's
on
the
the
keep
list
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
G
A
B
B
C
C
B
C
B
Has
staff
given
any
thought
to
that,
or
is
that
I
mean
something?
Obviously
we
can
put
a
asterisk
in
for
the
brown
act
and
come
back
with,
but
I
think
it's
worth,
maybe
exploring
just
as
kind
of
an
additional
safety
mechanism,
and
perhaps
it
it
kind
of
takes
away
some
of
the
the
politics
that
played
out
at
the
city
council
level.
G
Yeah
and
looking
at
the
the
list,
it
looks
like
a
good
portion
of
at
least
half
or
more
than
half
of
the
ones
that
didn't
qualify
on
the
counts.
This
year
already
do
have
some
type
of
either
they
have
an
enhanced
crosswalk
or
they
have
a
an
hallway,
stop
sign
or
a
flashing
warning
system
or
a
traffic
signal
so
there's,
but
there
is
still
that
other
half
that
you
know
handful
or
five
or
six
locations
amongst
that
that
currently
don't
have
any
sophisticated
or
enhanced
pedestrian
Crossing
systems.
G
So
normally
those
have
been
prioritized
or
funded.
Based
on
you
know,
vehicle
volume
or
pedestrian
counts.
So
in
some
cases
here,
if
we
have
a
pedestrian
count
of
two,
for
instance,
and
then
zero
in
the
PM
yeah
that
probably
wouldn't
Elevate
on
the
on
the
on
the
list
of
priorities
in
terms
of
grant,
funding
or
or
prioritization
versus,
maybe
other
locations
that
have
significantly
higher
volumes.
But
definitely
it
would
be
a
a
data
point
in
an
area
to
look
at
as
we
go
to
plan
future
improvements.
Active
Transportation
improvements.
B
I
mean
yeah
and
I
think
it
would
be
at
least
to
have
staff
saying
all
right,
we're
going
to
take
away
the
cross,
we're
going
to
go
in
we're
going
to
analyze
it
look
at
it,
see
what
it
already
exists.
There
infrastructure
wise
and
see
what
else
we
can
do
to
improve
the
safety
of
the
because
I
keep
you
know,
I
keep
come
using
Banyan
as
a
as
an
example.
B
It
just
you
know
that,
and
maybe
maybe
we
already
have
something
there
for
Banyan,
but
it
just
seems
like
having
staff
immediately
kind
of
take
a
look
and
see
may
may
kind
of
curb
some
of
the
concerns
raised
over
the
course.
You
know
to
Council
in
what
was
it
December
when
they
passed
this
right
and
then
coming
back
to
commissioner
orozco's
comment.
I
mean
I
think
it's
also
worth
I
like
that
idea
of
the
community
attitude
survey,
adding
some
questions.
B
You
know
next
time
we
go
out
on
walkability
and
kind
of
pedestrian
friendly
infrastructure
and
just
getting
a
sense
of
where
the
community's
at
it's
been
a
big
tell.
It's
been
a
big
tell
at
the
council
level
and
staff
level.
You
know
I
know
all
our
Council
takes
it
seriously.
What
the
community
has
to
say-
and
it
may
kind
of
give
us
some
more
data
points
in
terms
of
you
know
what
to
do
moving
forward
and
then
last
question.
B
Is
there
any
follow-up
with
some
of
these
odd
kind
of
numbers?
Coming
back
like
Redwood,
Middle
School?
Having
only
eight
kids
come
in
during
the
am
but
50
leave,
it
seems
like
a
an
enigma
puzzle
almost
of
like.
Well,
you
had
eight
kids
walk
there
and
50
walk
back.
So
what
you
know
is
there
any
kind
of
discussion
on
the
individual
sites.
B
G
Now
we're
seeing
other
Trends
here
as
well
than
certain
campuses,
they're
staying
longer,
so
there's
kind
of
a
lot
more
variability.
But
in
that
particular
case
that
was
what
appeared
to
be
the
case
with
those
particular
accounts.
But
this
is
another
advantage
of
doing
the
counts
every
year
and
not
you
know
having,
for
instance,
skip
this
year
because
it
gives
us
more
of
a
long-term
View
and
kind
of
a
rule
out
any
one-time.
You
know
total
Oddities
that
might
be
taking
place
because.
B
I
I
would
just
think
from
a
middle
school
perspective
when
you
have.
You
know
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
is
it
called
just
period,
zero,
yeah
or
a
period
where
you
know
you're
starting
at
7
00
a.m?
Or
you
know
these
kids
are
going
to
choir
or
wherever
they're
doing
that
a
period
they're
getting
in
way
earlier
before.
Even
you
know,
assumably
we
would
set
up
and
start
tracking,
so
it
it
may
be
just
worth.
As
we
see
those
numbers
come
in
re-exploring
how
we
do
these
counts
to
better
understand
these
individual
sites.
B
B
I
Yeah
just
just
to
follow
up
I
I,
really
like
the
idea
of
you
know
coming
back
to
seeing.
Maybe
you
know
photos,
perhaps
of
like
the
intersections
that
are
technically
failing
right
now,
but
I
really
like
the
idea,
because
you're
right,
some
of
them
already
have
enhancements
and
then
it
would
just
be
interesting
to
to
be
able
to
visualize
it
and
and
see
you
know
for
the
future
as
you're
prioritizing
you
know
it
is.
It
is
a
really
good
thought
of
just
yeah:
it's
a
one-time
cost,
rather
than
an
ongoing
cost.
I
It
seems
like
something
that
should
be
doable,
especially
if
we're,
if
we're
close
in
some
of
these
and
I
I,
think
our
assistant,
superintendent's.
You
know
perspective
here
is
really
interesting.
You
know
saying
thinking
about
the
safety
moving
forward.
If
you
know
thinking
about
parents
how
they're
going
to
react
to
to
the
change
and
then
what
unanticipated
consequences
may
come
of,
that
is
really
interesting,
but
it
I
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
if
you
know
we're
in
school
year,
25
26
say
we
have
removed
a
crossing
guard
at
XYZ
intersection.
I
G
Well,
the
the
practice
to
data
has
been
to
count
the
existing
locations
as
well
as
count
any
locations
that
are
newly
requested.
Okay.
So,
but
you
know
that
that
may
be
it
would
have
to
revisit
the
the
actual
policy
I
was
written,
so
it's
possible.
We
could.
We
could
do
that
at
all
locations
again,
I
mean
it's
a
nominal
amount
to
do.
You
know
a
little
bit
extra,
so
yeah,
but
yeah.
B
B
A
F
F
You
know
this
this
policy.
This
resolution
is
just
very
count
driven
right.
It's
very
numerical
and
I
see
in
the
resolution.
In
the
last
paragraph,
it
states
that
staff
will
conduct
annual
counts
of
all
existing
and
proposed
locations
and
that
The,
Pedestrian
and
vehicle
counts
will
be
conducted
per
the
California
manual
on
uniform
traffic
control
devices.
Guidelines
to
ensure
accurate,
pedestrian
and
vehicle
counts,
representative
of
a
typical
school
day
and
as
I
sit
here.
F
I
can't
remember
how
those
how
those
counts
were
taken,
because,
when
I
look
at
the
numbers
on
the
chart,
you
know
for
pedestrian
accounts,
particularly
you
go
well
on.
How
many
occasions
were
the
counts.
Taken
to
you
know
is
that
an
average
number
is
that
the
number
on
a
particular
given
day
and
if
it
was,
was
in
an
anomaly
and
so
I'm
trying
to
remember.
What's
the
protocol
for
taking
the
counts.
G
G
They
don't
go
to
the
same
location,
six
days
in
a
row
and
run
averages
so
and
then
that's
the
way,
they're
you
know
called
out
and
that's
why
we
avoid
doing
them
on
Mondays
and
Fridays
when
there's
typically
higher
call
outs
for
sick
days
and
so
forth
and
near
the
holiday
and
anywhere
near
you
know,
inclement,
weather
and
so
forth,
and
that's
why
this
year's
counts
took
as
long
as
they
did,
because
there
was
kind
of
some.
You
know
rainy,
cloudy
and
so
forth.
F
E
Good
evening
yes,
I'm
Robert
Sweden
in
the
public
works
department
and
I'll
be
giving
you
a
informational
item
here
on
The
Pedestrian
crosswalk
upgrade
at
the
intersection
of
Hillcrest
Road
East
and
Hillcrest
Road
and
Rancho
Road
East
to
the
south
of
that
is
clean.
A
middle
school,
so
you'll
see
Rancho,
Road
being
a
North
South
Street
in
Hillcrest
being
a
East
West
Street
with
the
crosswalk
circled
in
red.
That
is
on
the
west
side
of
the
road
that
at
this
location,
speaking
of
crossing
guards,
we
do
have
crossing
guards
at
this
location.
E
E
Here
is
a
westbound
view
of
that
intersection.
You
can
kind
of
see
the
signal
heads
and
when
there
they
are
when
I
Circle
them.
So
this
is
what's
currently
there.
I
will
show
you
a
photo
of
what
is
going
to
be
proposed
and
what
we
are
planning
to
do
so,
along
with
this
intersection,
is
some
in-ground
warning
lights
that
run
in
front
of
the
crosswalk
on
both
sides.
You
can
actually
see
the
rounds
discs
on
the
far
side
of
the
picture
as
well.
There's
approximately
20
of
them
10
on
each
side
of
the
crosswalk.
E
Those
were
I
mean
they
still
produce
them,
but
they're
kind
of
more
old
school
and
the
costs
are
basically
have
tripled.
Since
the
time
we
installed
them
so
they're
very
expensive,
now
to
replace
and
upgrade
so
we're
looking
to
enhance
this
intersection
with
the
newer
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons
that
we've
done
along
the
Boulevard
and
other
locations
put
in
a
new,
audible
or
tone,
pedestrian
push
button,
new
fluorescent,
yellow
green
signs
and
a
new
cabinet
and
controller.
E
E
So
this
is
what
the
advanced
Beacon
will
now
look
like
with
the
fluorescent,
yellow,
green
and
the
beacons
at
the
intersection
itself.
You'll
see
three
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons
I'm
going
to
show
you
another
photo
in
a
moment
that
will
actually
show
four.
So
in
that
far
left
rectangular
rapid
flashing
Beacon,
that's
actually
going
to
be
a
back
to
back,
and
you
can't
really
tell
that
in
this
kind
of
a
slide,
but
they
will
be
back
to
back
with
this
with
a
sign.
E
So
there
are
actually
Four
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons
for
each
direction
that
you'll
be
able
to
see.
In
addition,
you'll
have
the
new
fluorescent,
yellow
green
signs
and
then
the
audible
tone
push
button
which
is
still
yet
to
be
determined.
But
a
possible
message
could
be
crossed
with
caution.
Cars
may
not
stop
or
could
just
be
a
tone
that
you
could
hear
where
it
may
beep,
so
that
hasn't
been
determined.
E
Yet
so
here's
like
a
photo
of
what
it
will
look
like
when
it's
completed
so
you'll
have
the
three
that
was
shown
on
the
one
exhibit
earlier
and
then
the
far
left
for
the
westbound
Direction.
You
can
see
there's
an
additional,
that's
that
back
on
the
back
side
for
the
eastbound
direction.
Another
rectangular
rapid
flashing
Beacon
with
another
back
to
back
sign,
so
each
direction
will
have
three
Sines
and
four
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons
for
each
Direction.
E
E
and
we'll
try
to
get
it
installed
in
by
late
September.
When
material
comes
in.
In
fact,
yesterday
we
actually
pulled
the
wire
in
advance.
We
already
got
the
wire
we
already
got
that
pulled
in
yesterday,
so
we're
ready
to
go
once
that
material
comes
in
and
it'll
be
at
about
a
cost
estimate
of
sixty
thousand
dollars.
I
I'm
really
trying
not
to
overthink
this.
It
looks
great
something
just
struck
me.
The
cross
with
caution
seems
like
a
really
interesting
note.
You
know
to
to
be.
You
know
that
hear
that
sound.
It
brings
me
back
just
a
quick
Bird
walk.
A
year
ago
my
wife
was
crossing
the
crosswalk
in
front
of
clu
and
a
car
hit
her.
She
went
20
feet.
Broken
ribs
like
could
have
been
way
worse,
but
through
that
experience
really
interesting,
because
she
had
the
right
away
that
you
know
the
signal
went
on.
I
It's
walk,
you
know
she
wasn't
seeing
that
person,
not
stopping,
and
so
it's
interesting
like
with
with
this
is
there?
Are
there
any
cities
who've
done
this
already
and
like
what
messages
have
they
played
and
that
have
they
have
there
been
any
issues
with
you
know,
because
sometimes
yes,
cars
just
don't
stop
and
I.
That's
my
only
concern
is
people
might
put
blinders
on
thinking,
hey
I've,
got
it
right
away
and
yeah.
E
Yeah
there's
other
cities
that
have
done
it.
I
can't
I
can't
really
tell
you
which
one
but
I
know
going
through
some
of
their
the
website
for
the
the
brand.
They
have
different
ones,
and
you
can
actually
get
personalized
one
cross
that
Sixth
Street
cross
that
Fifth
Street
cross
here
and
caution,
or
you
can
do
your
own
verbiage
that
you
want
to
do
so.
It
is
all
over
the
country
if
you
select
it,
some
may
not
want
to
do
it.
Some
choose
to
it.
E
I
K
I
just
want
to
add
one
other
thing
is
that
during
the
school
hours
is
Mr,
Sweden
pointed
out
there's
a
crossing
guard
assigned
to
this
location.
So
during
those
school
hours
the
busier
times
when
the
kids
are
crossing,
the
kids
will
be
directed
by
the
crossing
guard
when
it's
appropriate
to
to
cross
the
street.
Thank.
I
F
Thank
you
chair,
so
I
really
like
this,
not
only
because
I'm
a
Colina
middle
school
alumnus,
but
because
in
my
later
years,
I
who
hasn't
driven
past
Colleen,
Middle
School
on
that
downward
descent
on
Hillcrest,
and
even
even
if
you're
familiar
with
the
city,
you
go
holy
holy
smoke.
You
know,
there's
a
there's
a
crosswalk
there
and
so
I
really
like
that.
F
The
city
is
getting
out
ahead
of
this
thing
and
putting
in
these
new
beacons
and
the
other
enhancements
that
are
being
made
here,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people
come
down
that
that
descent
and
they
forget
about
that
crosswalk
down
at
the
bottom.
There-
and
you
know,
even
in
you
know,
non-school
hours,
I
think
that
you
do
have
plenty
of
you
know:
people
walking
from
the
neighborhood
across
Hillcrest
to
go
use
the
the
ball
fields
and
the
school
facilities,
and
so
I.
Just
really
like
that.
F
B
J
Chair
hike,
I
was
just
thinking
is
given
the
grade
on
the
hill
and
the
the
blind
Hill.
When
you
come
in
up
over
it,
I
see
that
we
took
the
counts
of
crossing
at
Hillcrest
and
Rancho.
Is
there
crossing
the
other
way
across
Rancho
I'm?
Just
thinking
to
have
we
looked
at
moving
the
crosswalk
to
the
other
side
of
the
street
to
give
more
of
a
visibility
for
the
drivers
coming
down
the
hill.
E
And
not
at
this
point,
because
that's
where
the
The
Landing
is
currently
we'd
have
to
completely
redesign
the
the
landing
and
also
you're
looking
at
putting
in
a
new
driveway
right
where
that
would
end
up
coming
across
or
coming
out
of
that
new
driveway
at
Colina
is
looking
to
do
a
driveway
coming
out
of
there,
so
the
crosswalk
would
remain,
and
then
the
polls
would
all
have
to
be
removed,
not
removed,
but
replaced
to
a
different
location.
If
we
move
the
crossing
to
the
other
side,.
B
Can
you
just
walk
me
through
you
mentioned
in
your
staff
report?
A
full
traffic
single
signal
system
is
not
warranted
at
this
intersection,
but
obviously,
in
order
to
better
facilitate
we're,
we're
doing
these
design
and
updates
kind
of
piggybacking
off
of
some
of
the
questions
of
my
fellow
Commissioners.
So
what
what
can
you
tell
me
I?
Guess
a
what
went
into
analyzing
whether
a
traffic
signal
system
was
warranted
and
B
as
a
result
of
that?
What
made
us
choose
the
path
that
we're
going
down.
E
B
E
B
E
B
D
B
K
Okay,
yeah.
This
item
is
an
information
item.
As
we
just
mentioned
summarizing
re-striping
proposals
for
the
2024
Citywide
pavement
project,
we've
identified
nine
row
set
Road
segments
where
we
have
an
opportunity
to
implement
potential
traffic.
Calming
striping
measures
after
the
roads
are
resurfaced
tonight.
We're
asking
the
commission
to
provide
their
input
on
the
proposed
striping
concepts
for
the
nine
segments
and
to
give
a
little
background,
the
city
maintains
approximately
380
miles
of
roadway
for
the
upcoming
2024
payment
program.
The
city
is
looking
to
resurface,
approximately
50
of
those
miles.
K
So
when
the
city
cities,
biannual
resurfacing
project,
occurs
every
two
years,
we
look
at
the
opportunity
to
capitalize
on
potential
restriping
or
restruct,
or
to
potentially
restripe
Road
segments
at
little
or
no
additional
cost.
We
don't
want
the
opportunity
to
slip
away
since
the
next
resurfacing
treatment
won't
happen
until
15
years
in
the
future.
We've
been
implementing
this
striping
strategy
for
several
decades
and
we've
avoided
the
need
to
grind
off
paint
and
have
unsightly
scar
marks.
The
this
is
the
most
efficient
way
to
install
new
striping
when
pavement
servicing
projects
occur.
K
So
for
the
next
few
slides
I'm
going
to
show
you
some
examples
of
striping
changes
that
have
been
made
to
calm
traffic
over
the
years
to
create
improved
conditions
for
both
pedestrians
and
and
cyclists.
In
this
example,
we
have
a
segment
of
Lynn
Road
South
of
the
101
freeway.
It
shows
the
general
strategy
of
narrowing
travel
Lanes
to
encourage
drivers
to
drive
slower
and
provide
either
a
buffered
bike
lane
or
a
wider
bike
lane,
depending
on
available
roadway.
K
K
This
was
an
existing
Mark
crosswalk
and
additional
signs
and
pavement
markings
were
added
to
advise
drivers
to
yield
to
pedestrians.
The
triangular
shaped
shark
teeth.
Pavement
markings
indicate
the
point
where
drivers
should
yield
to
pedestrians
who
occupy
the
mark
crosswalk,
and
you
can
also
see
that
the
standard
bike
lanes
were
upgraded
to
buffered
bike
Lanes
during
this
pavement
project
and
then.
Finally,
this
example
shows
enhancements
that
were
made
in
2020
to
Wendy
Drive,
where
there's
impaired
visibility.
At
a
number
of
intersections.
K
Due
to
the
road
curvature,
we've
implemented
a
wide
buffered
bike,
Lanes
to
shift
Wendy
Drive
traffic
towards
the
center
of
the
road
which
allows
cross
street
traffic
to
inch
out
further
to
determine.
If
there's
a
gap
in
traffic
to
enter
Wendy,
Drive
travel
lanes
were
also
narrowed
to
11
feet
in
order
to
encourage
slower
driving
speeds.
K
So
for
the
2024
payment
project,
the
9th
Street
segments
that
have
been
identified
as
candidates
for
potential
restriping
are
listed
here
and
I'll
discuss
each
segment
later.
In
this
presentation
there
aren't
any
dramatic
striping
changes
being
proposed,
just
reducing
the
number
of
travel
Lanes.
The
proposed
changes
are
mainly
to
reduce
the
width
of
Wide
Travel
lanes
and
give
room
more
room
to
cyclists
in
the
form
of
either
a
wider
bike
lane
or
buffered
bike
Lanes.
K
So
now,
let's
start
going
over
these
nine
Road
segments.
The
first
one
is
along
Houghton
Camp
Road
in
Yorkshire
Avenue
we're
here
we're
looking
to
implement
Cheryl
pavement
markings
at
intermittent
intervals.
Cheryl
markings
are
designed
to
indicate
to
drivers
that
the
travel
Lane
is
shared
by
both
cars
and
bikes.
The
most
noticeable
shares
on
in
the
city
are
found
on
Thousand,
Oaks
Boulevard
and
some
segments
of
West
Lake
Boulevard
at
the
intersection
of
Keats
Avenue
and
Syria
Street,
we're
looking
to
replace
the
yellow,
marked
crosswalk
with
to
a
white
crosswalk.
K
K
K
For
this
segment
of
Patterson
Road
between
the
23
freeway
to
Rustic,
Glen
Drive,
we're
looking
to
narrow
the
Wide
Travel
lanes
and
create
buffered
bike
Lanes
to
create
more
separation
between
cars
and
bikes,
and
here
we
have
Reno
Road
between
borchard
Road
and
Old
Conejo
Road,
we're
looking
to
implement
Cheryl
pavement
markings
at
intermittent
intervals
in
the
number
two
travel
Lanes
as
mentioned
earlier,
the
sharrow
is
a
symbol
that
is
designed
to
indicate
to
drivers
at
the
travel.
Lane
is
shared
by
both
cars
and
bikes.
K
K
K
In
this
second
segment
of
Sunset
Hills,
this
is
between
herbs
to
Avenida
amaranto.
The
number
two
Eastbound
Lane
would
be
eliminated
to
create
a
parking
Lane
in
front
of
Sunset
Hills
Park.
Currently,
vehicles
are
permitted
to
park
in
the
bike
lane
there
and
we
can
also
add
a
buffered
bike
lane
within
this
area,
the
westbound
Direction,
the
buffered
bike
lane
can
be
created
by
narrowing
the
two
through
travel
Lanes
and
then
the
Eastern
segment
of
Sunset
Hills
Boulevard
buffered
bike
Lanes
can
be
created
by
narrowing
the
wide
through
travel
Lanes.
K
Okay,
this
section
of
via
Marita
by
Westlake
High
School.
The
bike
Lanes
can
be
widened
just
a
bit
by
narrowing
the
the
Wide
Travel
lanes
and
unfortunately,
the
road
is
not
wide
enough
to
create
buffered
bike
Lanes
here
and
then.
Finally,
here's
an
image
of
a
cross-section
of
West,
Lake,
Boulevard
North
of
Avenida
De
Los
Arboles,
where
new
buffered
bike
Lanes
can
be
created
by
narrowing
the
Wide
Travel
lanes
and
wide
painted
median.
K
So
with
that,
the
recommendation
is
in
the
staff
report.
I
would
like
to
add
that
the
proposal
that
is,
that
we're
looking
at
tonight
was
shared
with
the
city's
bicycle
advisory
team
last
Thursday.
Their
comments
were,
in
general
support
of
the
proposed
changes
to
widen
or
provide
buffered
bike,
Lanes
or
Cheryl
markings.
They
also
added
comments
to
to
us
to
specifically
to
Los
Padres
Drive,
Pederson,
Road
and
Westlake
Boulevard,
which
will
evaluate
further.
K
B
B
Don't
all
jump
at
once
all
right,
I'll
start.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
I
mean
you
mentioned
at
the
very
very
beginning
that
we
do
our
resurfacing
every
15
years.
So
if
we
miss
this
opportunity,
it'd
be
a
15-year
cycle
and
I'm
getting
to
a
positive
actually
here,
because
other
cities
from
what
I
know
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
have
a
much
longer
cycle
to
actually
be
able
to
resurface
their
streets
is
that
is
that
correct.
B
So
so
I
think
that's
you
know.
I
think
that
goes
to
the
work
of
a
lot
of
counsel
and
Direction,
and
staff
like
15
years
is
impressive
for
a
city
to
commit
to
resurfacing
I.
Think
any
of
us
take
a
drive
to
the
San
Fernando
Valley
and
we
see
a
whole
different
type
of
road.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
continuing
to
keep
on
that.
B
Keep
on
that
schedule
and
I
know
that
these
sites
were
largely
chosen
because
that's
the
resurfacing
schedule,
but
based
on
your
presentation,
what
was
the
thought
process
behind
each
one
of
these
designs,
meaning
you
know,
did
we
reach
out
to
the
neighborhood?
Did
we
pull
traffic
data
or
why
are
we
looking
to
do
some
of
these
proposed
designs.
K
Well,
basically,
we
took
a
look
at
the
list.
Looked
at
the
map
and
drove
some
of
these
roadways-
and
you
know
some
of
these
streets
already
have
some
level
of
treatment
in
there,
where
you
know
really
can't
calm
traffic
or
we
looked
at
you
know,
can
we
widen
bike
Lanes?
Can
we
put
in
a
buffered
bike
lane
some
of
those
roads,
the
West
are
limited,
but
here
we
found
okay,
there's
some
there's
nine
segments
where
we
can
do
something
different
than
what's
already
there,
and
so
so.
K
Basically,
we
we
are
confident
that
you
know
most
of
these
can
work
out.
We
haven't
prepared
any
engineering,
drawings,
yeah,
we're
gonna.
You
know
evaluate
this
further.
We
received
the
comments
from
the
bat
last
Thursday,
so
we're
going
to
take
their
input
and
you
know
determine
whether
or
not
you
know
some
of
their
input
is
feasible
or
not,
and
then
some
of
these
locations,
such
as
Los
Padres,
drive
and
Sunset
Hills
Boulevard.
We
will
do
some
Outreach
within
the
next
month
or
so
and
determine
you
know.
K
Is
there
support
for
some
of
these
measures?
If,
especially,
if
there's
homes
fronting
or
homes
nearby,
but
some
of
these
arterial
streets,
we
probably
don't
need
to
do
that
level
of
Outreach
such
as
you
know,
if
you're
going
to
Via
Merida,
where
basically
you're
going
to
narrow
down
the
travel
Lane
by
two
feet
and
give
it
to
the
bike
lane.
That's
you
know
probably
don't
need
to
do
that
level
of
Outreach.
B
Well
and
I
appreciate
that,
because
I
mean
the
large-scale
consideration
of
some
of
the
re-striping
that
we
did
I
think
it
was
last
year
with
Moore,
Park,
Road
or
Hillcrest
and
other
portions,
where
we
did
that
public
Outreach
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
the
the
public
Beyond
this
meeting
at
least
the
neighborhood
opportunities
with
some
of
these
major
potential
changes
to
provide
some
feedback.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
I
certainly
would
support
that.
K
Yeah
I
think
basically
the
the
comment
was
that
the
12-foot
Wide
Travel
Lane,
that
you
know
cyclists
and
vehicles
would
have
to
share
the
comment:
was
you
know
it's
not
wide
enough,
but
again
the
drawing
that
was
submitted
in
the
staff
report.
That's
just
a
concept,
so
that's
not
the
final
preferred
option.
We're
going
to
look
at
various
options.
A
K
Know
or
we
may
not,
there
may
be
no
change
depending
on
the
level
of
feedback
we
receive
from
the
from
the
public.
As
far
as
we
know.
Yes,
we
did
receive
over
over
the
years
that
you
know,
there's
concerns
with
speed
on
that
road
and
so
now's
an
opportunity.
We
can
ask
a
resident
okay.
How
is
this
idea?
Is
it
shared
throughout
the
community
in
that
area,
or
is
it
just
a
handful
of
people?
K
B
B
You
know
for
me
and
I
realize
adding
and
striping
parking
lanes
are
crucial
and
people
like
to
park
their
cars,
but
to
me
just
as
an
overall
philosophy,
it
almost
should
be
more
later
on
in
that
list
of
possibilities
on
how
to
approach
a
particular
re-striping.
If
we
can
look
at
protecting
our
cyclists
or
doing
something
else
with
that
striping
that
we
can
both
maybe
calm,
we
can
check
that
box
on
calming
Lanes,
but
also
increasing
safety,
for
our
our
bicyclists
I.
B
The
one
other
section
I
wanted
to
just
tackle
is
her
next
paragraph
there
on
on
Patterson
road,
the
segment
one
between
Olson
Road
and
the
23
freeway
I
I,
like
history
I
appreciate
history.
She
mentions
it
in
there
of
this
section
of
Peterson.
Road
was
originally
striped
with
a
bike
lane
adjacent
to
the
curve,
but
was
re-striped
due
to
the
Hazardous
road
conditions
seems
like
we've,
it's
kind
of
like
I've,
been
there
done
that
we
tried
it,
we
went
back.
B
Was
there
any
kind
of
have
you
looked
at
yet,
or
maybe
it's
worth
looking
at
kind
of
the
history
of
the
way
that
we've
approached
that
over
the
years
and
because
some
of
the
tree
roots
and
pine
needles
I
mean
I,
I,
drove
and
kind
of
walked
that
area
and
saw
for
myself.
You
know
it
could
it
certainly
could
be
hazardous
for
for
bikers
in
that
particular
area.
B
K
I
I
just
want
to
comment
on
that
one,
that's
one!
Where
there's
concern
that
you
know
that
the
tree
roots
are
making
the
pavement
surface
uneven.
We
did
check
with
the
project
manager
on
on
the
for
the
resurfacing
and
they
did
say
the
general
idea
was
to
grind
down
into
the
surface
of
the
road
to
make
that
road
surface
completely
smooth,
which
would
allow
cyclists
to
move
back
next
to
the
curb
the
way
that
you
know,
cyclists
are
used
to
writing.
We
can
also
use
a
skinnier
buffer
zone
too.
K
A
K
B
B
If
there's
any
I
guess
my
question
isn't
really
the
standards,
but
is
there
any
concern
that
I
mean
these
are
big
assumably,
large
Roots,
especially
if
they're,
if
they're
pushing
up
against
the
pavement
and
causing
uneven
pavement
I,
don't
know
how
that
process
is
or
is
there
any
challenge
there
because
they're
more
mature,
Roots
versus
versus
you
know,
trees
that
are
still
really
growing
and
establishing
themselves
he
reaches
for
the
mic.
So.
G
I
know:
there's
yeah
I
can
help
address.
That
I
mean
it
always
varies
by
the
tree,
but
we
typically
have
our
arborist
one
of
our
arborists.
We
have
a
few
of
them,
be
involved
anytime,
we're
talking
about
grinding
tree
roots,
and
you
know
exposing
tree
roots
and
everything
to
make
sure
that
it's
suitable
or
feasible
and
in
certain
cases
if
the
tree
is
damaging
infrastructure
and,
for
instance,
if
this
was
lifting
a
sidewalk
or
you
know,
bending
the
curb
and
so
forth.
In
some
cases.
G
Unfortunately,
the
tree
has
to
go
because
it
won't
be
able
to
survive
the
grinding
of
the
roots
and
so
forth,
so
yeah
each
one
will
have
to
be
evaluated
in
this
case.
I,
don't
I,
don't
believe.
We've
had
similar
situations
on
bridge
gate
and
a
few
other
streets.
Where
we've
you
know
ground,
The
Roots
down
and
been
successful,
but
it
certainly
takes
a
lot
of
evaluation.
That's
a
good
comment.
Okay,.
H
Yes,
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
so
much
for
for
the
report.
Jim
I
know
it's
a
lot
to
go
over
in
one
one
report
and
a
lot
to
brief.
So
I
appreciate
that
I
know
that
throughout
the
report,
particularly
in
Peterson
and
Sunset
Hills
Boulevard
there's
a
mention
of
buffers
and
I
was
just
curious.
If
there
are
any
considerations
being
taken
into
account
for
any
physical
barriers
as
opposed
to
just
providing
striped
buffer
zones.
K
Yeah
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
if
there's
a
physical
barrier,
that
would
be
like
a
class
4
bike,
Lane
right
right
now.
This
project
is
looking
just
strictly
at
changing.
You
know
replacing
paint
with
new
paint
or
thermoplastic
with
new
thermoplastic,
but
no
physical.
You
know
delineators,
like
that.
You
would
see
on
a
class
4
bike
lane
or
some
type
of
a
barrier
in
the
in
the
roadway
sure.
H
All
of
the
re-striping
or
the
additional
or
expansion
of
bike
paths
is
there
any
larger,
like
body
of
work
being
done
around
a
larger,
interconnected
bike
path
system
throughout
the
city,
especially
for
restriping,
only
10
to
15
years
at
a
time,
I'd
love
to
to
imagine
some
sort
of
long-term
Vision
to
incorporate
all
of
our
bypass
systems
so
that
bikers
had
a
more
fluid
route
around
the
city
and
I
was
just
curious.
If
that
was
under
consideration
when,
when
evaluating
these,
these
restripings
yeah.
K
You
know
what's
out
in
the
field
and
we
also
have
what
we
call
the
active
Transportation
plan,
which
sort
of
guides
us
into
where
you
know
all
the
our
bike,
our
bike
facilities
where
they
need
upgrades
or
we
have
opportunities
to
add
bike
Lanes
so
like,
for
example,
where
we
are
going
to
we're
proposing
to
put
in
sharrows
that's
part
of
the
active
Transportation
plan.
It
identifies
those
particular
streets
as
having
Cheryl
markings
in
the
roadway,
but
we
are
looking
to
update
our
active
Transportation
plan.
I
think
it
was
adopted
in
2019.
K
G
Yeah
and
if
I
might
just
add
to
that
a
few
other
projects,
as
you
mentioned,
some
several
have
been
completed
on
Rancho
Road
and
on
West
Lake,
Boulevard
and
Willow
Lane,
caneo,
School
Road
and
some
of
the
next
ones
that
we've
been
successful.
Using
that
active
Transportation
plan,
getting
Grant
dollars
for
which
are
currently
in
design
are
about
to
be
in
design
are
in
the
Rancho
Conejo
area
on
the
Hillcrest
and
Lynn
Road,
which
we've
had
previous
presentations
about.
G
So
we're
certainly
looking
to
expand
that
Network
and
projects
like
this
on
the
paving
program
are
just
kind
of
a
a
bonus.
It's
an
ability
to
like
enhance
what's
out
there,
but
in
terms
of
fixing
completely
missing
links
and
so
forth
in
the
network.
Those
are
the
ones
that
we
spin
off
into
Standalone
projects
and
are
continuing
to
try
to
work
on
those
as
we
go.
Gotcha.
H
Given
that
there's
so
much
activity,
I
was
wondering
if,
like
what,
what
sort
of
factors
contribute
to
as
taking
a
bike
lane
off
off
the
possible
map
map
altogether?
Is
it
the
40
mile
an
hour
roadway
issue?
Is
it
a
space
issue?
It
just
seems
like
a
such
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
plug
something
in
to
incorporate
more
bike,
biking
to
Parks
or
or
Newbury
Park
High
School.
K
A
K
You
know
change
that
stripe
Center.
What
like
it's
like,
a
two-way
turn
lane
we'd
have
to
get
rid
of
that
and
and
then
so,
if
you
know,
there's
there's
maybe
some
unintended
consequences.
If
you
do
that,
where
now,
when
someone
wants
to
make
a
left
turn
at
a
cross
street
or
driveway,
you
know
right
now
you
can
what
pull
into
a
center
turn
area.
But
if
you
rededicate
the
roadway
and
you
eliminate
that
Center
turn
area,
then
you
know
there's
a
rear.
End
conflict,
that's
been
created,
sure.
H
K
H
K
J
Hike,
thank
you.
Mine
is
just
a
comment
on
the
presentation.
I
know
you
covered
a
lot
of
different
projects
here,
I,
don't
know
all
the
streets
as
well
as
maybe
some
other
people
here
in
this
room,
or
you
know
maybe
some
people
in
the
public
don't
either
it
would
just
help.
Maybe
when
you
show
a
map
or
give
us
the
attachment,
I
mean
I.
J
B
D
Yes,
we
have
one
individual
that
has
requested
to
speak
again.
Speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes
and
you
have
received
two
written
statements,
so
written
statements
were
provided
to
the
Commissioners
and
were
made
available
at
the
Public
Works
counter
and
here
at
the
boardroom,
on
the
back
table
by
the
entrance.
D
L
I'm,
really
not
going
to
go
into
details.
Everything
in
the
letter,
because
it's
already
pretty
much
been
discussed,
except
for
the
last
part
of
the
letter
that
we
did
not
discuss
at
the
bat
meeting,
involves
the
fact
that,
on
the
the
payment
program,
the
city
is
Paving.
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
between
Moore
Park
and
herbs,
Road
and
staff
has
decided
not
to
bring
that
to
the
bat
or
the
traffic
commission.
Even
as
a
consideration
should
that
road
that
part
of
Sierra
Boulevard
be
striped
for
bike
Lanes.
L
It
should
be
something
the
public
should
weigh
in
on
and
the
boulevard
anyone
who's
involved
in
the
boulevard,
as
well
as
the
city,
council
and
so
I
feel
really
strongly
about
it
and
I
really
hope
that
staff
includes
this
as
part
of
the
pavement
project
to
at
least
have
the
discussion
put
the
bike
lane
on
the
boulevard
so
and
I
also
I'm
here.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
on
my
letter.
C
B
G
G
So
it
really
comes
down
to
the
the
on-street
parking
versus
the
bike
lanes
and
there.
My
understanding
is
that
the
businesses
that
are
developing
right
now
are
are
using
the
on-street
parking
as
part
of
their
parking
counts
for
their
to
meet
their
their
development,
permit
requirements
for
their
their
new
projects,
so
to
lose
that
there
would
be
some
impact
to
the
existing
businesses.
That
would
be,
you
know,
a
shift,
I
mean
there's
always
when
you
have
an
arterial,
it's
kind
of
a.
G
How
do
you
maximize
the
space
to
provide
the
best
use
when
we
redid
the
intersection
at
thousands,
Boulevard
and
herbs?
This
was
evaluated
in
the
the
project
that
Council
ultimately
approved
through
that
that
intersection
from
herb
suzuniga
did
not
include
any
bike
lanes
and
instead
it
included
a
widened,
sidewalk
and
maintained
kind
of
the
number
of
travel
Lanes
through
there.
So
it
is
a
I
guess.
A
bigger
topic.
I
mean
it's,
it's
ultimately
up
to
the
council.
G
If
they
want
to
eliminate
on-street
parking
on
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard,
they
haven't
done
that
to
date,
we
haven't
seen
any
desire
for
them
to
do
that
to
date.
That's
why
that
the
sharos
have
been
implemented
on
Thousand,
Oaks,
Boulevard
and
I.
Guess
for
a
more
pleasant
bicycle
atmosphere
or
more,
you
know,
actual
bike.
G
Lanes
Hillcrest
has
been
you
know,
unofficially
anointed,
as
the
other,
the
parallel
Street
to
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard,
that
you
know
bicyclists
will
use
if
they,
if
they
are
traveling
through
and
not
really
stopping
anywhere
on
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard,
and
they
wish
to
kind
of
pass
through
and
want
a
little.
You
know
more
of
a
dedicated
space
for
themselves.
That's
what
they've
been
using,
but
but
the
the
speaker's
point
is
noted.
I
mean
that
that's
a
it's
a
it's
a
bigger
topic.
It's
there
really
hasn't
been
anything
finalized.
G
The
active
Transportation
plan
does
have
thousands
Boulevard
right
at
the
top
it.
Actually,
there
was
number
three
but
we've
already
completed
the
first
two
projects,
so
that
Tio
Boulevard
is
third
on
there
to
add
bike
Lanes.
However,
there
is
also
a
comment
that
says:
further
study
is
needed
because
it
can't
be
implemented
the
way
that
the
road
is
currently
configured
so
and
there's
a
lot
of
words
to
say
that
it's
it's
a
kind
of
a
sticky
situation,
a
little
bit
it's.
G
It
will
require
more
more
analysis
if
any
changes
are
to
be
made
and
I
know.
If
there's
a
desire
to
to
bring
it
up
and
study
it,
there's
probably
going
to
be
there's
not
going
to
be
any
Solution.
That's
going
to
satisfy
everybody's
needs,
there's
going
to
be
one
section
of
the
community,
that's
not
happy
and
the
other
one.
You
know
that
it
would
be
happy,
but
it's
going
to
be.
You
know.
Those
are
my
comments.
Maybe
Jim
can
add
more.
K
Yeah
I
mean
that
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
community
outreach
would
be
the
one
of
the
biggest
biggest
factors
or
challenges
for
a
project
like
that.
A
lot
of
the
businesses
you,
you
probably
need
the
buy-in
of
the
Toba
organization
to
determine
whether
or
not
that
some
something
like
that
would
move
forward.
Another
option
to
create
bike
Lanes
would
be
eliminate
the
center
turn
lane,
but
with
those
multiple
driveways.
K
If
we
convert
the
center
to
a
turn
lane
to
just
a
double
yellow,
Center
Line
and
have
all
these
vehicles,
you
know
moving
in
and
out
of
the
driveways
and
no
longer
have
a
refuge
area
in
the
middle
I
would
imagine.
Our
Collision
rates
are
are
going
to
spike
up
significantly
and
that
could
actually
be
more
detrimental
for
cyclists
as
well.
If
they're
going
up
and
down
the
street,
and
now
you
have
more
Vehicles
trying
to.
K
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
the
the
comments
from
our
public
speaker
as
well
as
this
wonderful
letter.
That
being
said,
I
was
going
to
kind
of
bring
it
up
more
in
commissioner
comments,
but
since
we're
going
to
tackle
it
and
address
it,
you're
right
it's
an
interesting
and
difficult
decision.
I
don't
know.
Do
we
have
any
staff
here
that
I
don't
know
what
the
boulevard
specific
plan
talks
about
and
deals
with,
but
at
the
same
time
the
boulevard
specific
plan
wants
walkability.
They
want
more
pedestrian
modes
of
transportation.
B
So
you
know,
I
I
won't
take
a
page
out
of
the
mayor's
Playbook
and
do
a
straw
poll.
But
you
know
I
would
really
put
this
issue
up
for
comment
from
my
fellow
Commissioners
and
possibly
you
know
providing
some
just
to
see
if
there
is
support
here
to
have
that
conversation,
because
it's
difficult,
but
if
we
never
have
the
conversation,
we're
never
going
to
know
the
answer
and
I
think
that's.
You
know
we're
at
a
a
kind
of
a
I'll
use
a
traffic
term
we're
at
a
crosswalk
right
now
on
this
issue.
B
B
H
J
One
of
the
other
challenges
I
think
on
Thousand
Oaks,
Boulevard
and
I'm
I'm
on
the
general
plan
advisory
committee,
and
we
had
some
conversation
about
parking
on
the
boulevard
related
to
recent
and
new
and
upcoming
developments,
and
it
is
a
crucial
issue
for
businesses.
The
I'd
say
the
lack
of
parking,
but
the
the
limited
parking
and
the
value
of
real
estate
to
take
a
piece
of
property
and
just
make
it
solely
parking.
So
I
think
that
it's
a
difficult
decision,
because
you
have
to
weigh
a
number
of
different
factors.
J
Just
the
cars
coming
in
and
out
not
to
you
know,
mentioned
the
the
side
streets
and
the
the
traffic
lights
are
okay
and
they're
regulated,
but
the
driveways
are
not,
and
with
the
the
The
Refuge
Lane
in
the
middle
I
think
is
critically
important
to
to
keep
because
of
the
amount
of
ins
and
outs
of
the
businesses
and
the
driveways
that
are,
there.
I
think
it's
important
for
the
sustainability
of
the
boulevard.
J
I
B
B
So
I'll
just
read
it
into
the
record:
stop
sign
installations
at
12,
intersections
reviewed,
April,
26
2023
will
be
considered
by
City
Council
on
September
12
2023
mark
your
calendars,
be
there
none
else.
We're
going
to
go
to
item
8,
our
commission
referrals
from
April
26
2023.
There
were
none
item,
nine
are
work
program
and
commission
schedule.
B
B
It's
really
our
only
joint
group
between
our
Conejo
park
and
rec
district,
our
CVUSD
and
the
City
of
Thousand
Oaks,
the
purpose
for
bringing
that
up
actually
just
make
my
fellow
Commissioners
aware,
if
they
aren't
already
commissioner
Orozco
mentioned
it
earlier,
is
having
a
discussion
on
Walk
and
Roll
to
school
kind
of
a
new
traffic
initiative
idea
ties
into
our
crosswalks
and
walking
and
certainly
want
to
invite
anyone
to
come,
show
up.
There's
going
to
be
public
comments.
It's
a
public
and
open
meeting.
B
This
group
certainly
could
use
any
and
all
comments
about
how
to
facilitate
the
potential
for
this
program.
I
think
it's
a
great
pedestrian
friendly
possibility
here
future
meetings.
We
are
dark
in
August
2023,
so
we
will
be
back
end
of
September
and
I'll
move
on
to
item
12.
next
meeting
to
be
held
at
6
pm
on
September
27th
2023
in
the
boardroom
of
the
Civic
Arts
Plaza.
On
the
third
floor,
good
night.