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Traffic and Transportation Advisory Commission Meeting - April 26, 2023
A
By
the
traffic
commission,
unless
listed
on
the
agenda
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
engineer
for
administrative
follow-up.
Currently
we
don't
have
any
individuals
requesting
to
speak
and
no
written
statements
have
been
submitted.
Also,
please
silence
all
cell
phones
during
the
meeting
and
please
remember
to
mute
your
microphones
when
you
are
not
speaking.
B
C
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
My
name
is
Bradley
ackert
tonight
I'm
going
to
discuss
the
proposed,
stop
sign
installations
at
12
locations
in
the
city,
I'm,
going
to
start
by
identifying
the
locations
and
area
of
areas
of
concern.
I'll
show
an
example
of
these
issues
at
one
of
the
intersections
and
I'll,
follow
up
by
explaining
the
public
Outreach
and
provide
a
staff
recommendation
all
right.
So,
let's
get
into
it.
C
C
C
C
C
C
There
is
also
impaired
visibility
at
all
these
intersections,
including
Corner
Landscaping
curbside
parking,
Road,
curvature
and
Corner
walls.
I
have
researched
the
Collision
history
for
the
last
three
years.
At
all,
12
intersections
there
was
a
broadside
collision
at
homestake
place
at
Erin.
Leia
Avenue
involving
a
Northbound
left
versus
an
eastbound
through
the
primary
Collision
Factor
was
an
auto
right-of-way
violation
which
could
have
been
potentially
could
have
been
avoided.
If
a
stop
sign
were
present,
there
have
not
been
any
collisions
at
the
other
at
the
other
11
intersections.
During
that
time.
C
Here's
the
southwest
corner
of
Golden,
Crest
and
Aaron
Leia
notice.
How
close
this
intersection
is
to
the
intersection
of
Erin
lay
on
Wendy
Avenue.
This
is
right
where
the
right-of-way
confusion
comes
into
play.
Drivers
heading
Southbound,
on
Golden
Crest
are
not
yielding
the
traffic
on
erinland
Avenue,
and
this
is
the
driver
behavior
that
we're
looking
to
eliminate
public
Outreach
was
performed
in
advance
of
this
meeting.
A
total
of
161
meeting
notifications
were
mailed
out
on
April
20th.
The
reason
we
did
such
extensive
Outreach
is
there.
C
C
Those
three
elements
are
the
source
of
the
aesthetic
concerns
for
residents.
The
Traffic
Division
prioritize
prioritizes
safety
over
convenience
city-wide
there.
There
are
three
ways
that
the
public
could
provide
input
at
this
meeting
by
attending
it
in
person
participating
virtually
through
zoom
and
to
submitting
an
email
to
Sue
staff.
C
C
D
D
C
Sure
so
I
originally
got
a
request.
I
got
one
request
for
a
Golden
Crest
in
Aaron,
Leia
I
went
out
there.
I
did
a
field
check.
I
observed
the
same
behavior
that
they
were
talking
about,
so
I
had
put
that
on
the
list
and
then,
as
I
drove
through
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
I
noticed
that
none
of
the
others
intersections
at
stop
signs.
So
we
weren't
we
weren't
just
going
to
do
one
and
not
look
at
the
whole
Community.
C
D
D
E
A
question
about
process:
how
does
one
make
the
request
for
a
stop
sign
and
then
part
two
from
the
city's
perspective?
How
does
this
compare
to
other
neighborhoods
like
this,
this
neighborhood,
when
when
you're
taking
me
through,
it,
reminds
me
a
little
bit
of
my
neighborhood
and
I'm
and
I'm
I'm
curious.
E
C
So
we're
not
extremely
proactive
about
them,
I'm
more
looking
for
customers
to
call
send
an
email,
initiate
the
request
and
then
I
go
investigate
after
that.
Compare
in
comparison
to
other
neighborhoods.
There
aren't
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
in
the
city
that
are
on
controlled
intersections.
That's
that's
rare!
So
usually
when
I
get
a
request
for
a
stop
sign,
it's
a
two-way
and
they're
requesting
multi-way.
C
C
F
F
Oh
probably,
since
the
commission
started
in
you
know
the
late
late,
90s
and
so
usually
we've
been
bringing
you
know,
one
report
every
year.
So
this
is
the
report
for
this
calendar
year,
we'll
probably
bring
another
one
next
year,
so
slowly
but
surely,
as
through
time,
people
have
been
reporting
these
to
us,
we've
been
doing
the
investigations
and
then
bringing
it
to
the
commission
and-
and
so
most
of
the
intersections
in
town
are
now
have
the
stop
signs
in
place.
F
G
First,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
wonderful
report.
I
just
have
a
one
more
of
a
point
of
a
clarification
after
you
receive
the
initial
request
from
the
intersection
that
started
the
whole
investigation
into
the
other,
similar
intersections
and
the
three-year
report
of
the
Collision
history.
Did
you
find
that
the
other
intersections
had
similar
Collision
history?
As
the
initial
indicated
intersection
that
you
were
first
looking
into
no.
C
B
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Just
a
few
questions.
I
think
it
was
in
your
presentation
it
if
I
recall
it's
golden
crests
at
Aaron,
Aaron,
Leia
right
next
to
Lynn
Road,
fairly
close
to
Lynn
Road.
Is
there
any
concern
adding
that
stop
sign?
As
you
turn
off
to
Lynn
you're
going
to
have
a
backup
or
at
any
point
you
know
possibly
blocking
or
causing
issues
with
Lynn
Road.
C
That
was
what
I
was
we're
only
going
to
be
stopping
the
terminating
leg,
so
it
won't
be
a
multi-way
stop.
So,
if
you're
coming
off,
it's
actually
off
of
Wendy,
if
you
make
a
if
you're
headed
southbound
on
Wendy-
and
you
turn
eastbound
on
air
and
Leia,
there's
no
stop
control
there.
It's
only
for
the
people
heading
Southbound
on
Golden,
Crest,
okay,.
B
Okay
and
then
I
believe
Mr
machico
kind
of
hinted
at
this
is:
is
this
a
situation
where
this
neighborhood
just
happened
to
be
it's
one
of
the
older
neighborhoods
in
the
city?
That's
why
when
it
was
planned
out
or
it
just
does
not
have
any
controlled
intersections
within
it,
it
just
happened
to
be
it's
just
an
older
neighborhood.
That's
exactly
right,
got
it
in
terms
of
the
public.
Outreach
remind
me
what
the
requirements
are
or
the
guidelines
that
we
use
to
do
our
public
Outreach.
B
C
B
H
Just
a
comment
about
the
the
presentation:
a
new
show
us
the
map,
and
you
know
if
you
look
at
like
one
of
the
the
Google
Maps
or
whatever
it
is
I,
don't
know
how
the
other
Commissioners
feel,
but
it
would
help
to
see
the
the
satellite
photo
of
it
just
to
see
how
close
and
where
the
houses
are
in
proximity
to,
rather
than
just
the
lines
in
the
streets.
You
know
there's
too
many.
D
D
C
D
A
B
I
Housing
area
they
are
T
intersections,
so
as
I
come
down,
Golden
Crest
down
my
street,
it
dead
ends
that
Aaron
Lee
now,
obviously,
and
according
the
reason
these
stop
signs
are
not
needed
is
because
and
I
I'm
hoping
perhaps
the
sergeant
that's
present
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it's
already
in
a
T
intersection
like
that.
Where
you,
where
the
road
ends,
you
have
to
yield
to
traffic.
I
Now
having
been
there
35
years
or
since
the
homes
have
been
built,
that's
the
first
accident
I
have
ever
heard
of
or
seen
in
all
the
time
we've
lived
there,
we've
never
had
a
problem
and
because
it's
already
illegal
not
to
yield,
we
see
absolutely
no
reason
to
install
any
of
these
signs.
Anyone
who
would
ignore
their
yield
at
these
streets
anyway
is
not
going
to
pay
any
attention
to
a
stop,
sign
and
I.
Think
I
know
exactly
where
this
accident
took
place.
I
There
was
a
person
coming
out
of
a
dead-end
street
again
A
T
intersection.
It's
so
obvious
that
you're
going
to
pause
there,
you're
going
to
look
I
use
that
intersection
at
Aaron
land
goldencrest,
almost
daily
and
I,
have
never
had
a
visibility
problem
and
I
have
never
had
seen
anyone
else
having
a
problem
with
that
either.
So
we're
opposed
it's
neighbors
I've
talked
to
it's
unnecessary
and
it's
unwanted.
J
Dokie
I've
been
in
Deer
Ridge
since
91,
so
I've
been
there
32
years.
I
was
in
and
out
of
that
place
because
I
worked
at
Rocketdyne
for
34,
and
the
only
accident
I
ever
heard
of
was
the
one
that
this
lovely
lady
brought
up.
We've
never
had
a
problem
with
any
of
the
streets
at
all.
Everybody
goes
down.
Antelope
I
live
way
at
the
top
of
antelope.
It's
a
dead
end.
You
come
down
Antelope
to
Golden
Crest.
You
have
the
ability
to
left
right
and
then
left
again.
J
You
go
down
air
and
Leah
all
the
way
to
windy.
You
look
left
right,
left.
There's
really,
no
reason
to
have
these
stop
signs
at
all.
I,
just
can't
figure
it
out
and
if
you
really
notice
it
people
don't
really
abide
by
the
stop
signs,
because
I
hate
to
tell
you
there's
not
a
lot
of
police
out
there
watching
it.
So
they
go
right
through
they'll.
J
They
don't
even
stop
anymore
and
I
have
people
that
go
down
windy
and
they
take
over
the
second
right
in
the
center
of
the
road
because
somebody's
going
too
slow.
But
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
this
I
oppose
it.
This
is
wrong.
I
mean
you're,
putting
all
this
kind
of
stop
signs
up,
and
then
everybody
you're
gonna
have
you
can't
park
within
a
certain
distance
from
the
stop
sign.
So
if
you've
got
cul-de-sacs,
where
are
the
people
going
to
park
seriously
so
I
oppose
it.
Believe
me,
it's
it's
all
wrong.
J
K
K
Most
streets
are
cul-de-sacs,
11
stops
signs
are
too
much
I
hope
you
all
drove
through
my
neighborhood
and
did
you
do
diligence
and
saw
how
small
it
is
and
quiet
I
believe
there
was
a
complaint,
and
we
just
heard
about
Golden
Crest,
where
Golden
Crest
meets
with
Aaron
Lee
Aaron
Lee
is
a
Long
Street,
it's
got
a
steep
downhill
and
the
section
of
Golden
Crest
is
one
of
the
few
streets
that
goes
through.
It's
not
a
cul-de-sac
in
that
area
and
it
also
gets
traffic
fed
from
a
couple
different
streets
into
Golden
Crest.
K
So
I
agree
with
the
city
that
we
do
need
a
stop
sign
there,
but
our
city
staff
is
thorough.
They
always
want
to
do
the
right
thing.
I
know
this
because
I've
worked
for
them.
I
was
there
where
you're
sitting
for
20
years
as
a
traffic.
Commissioner,
one
stop
sign
for
this.
One
intersection
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
K
More
is
not
better
in
this
situation
when,
as
as
a
previous
person
taught
said,
when
a
cul-de-sac
meets
in
a
tea
with
a
third
through
Street,
it
is
already
in
the
vehicle
code
that
drivers
must
yield
to
the
larger
Street.
There
is
no
way
that
the
police
have
the
resources
to
sit
and
monitor
these
11
intersections.
K
Parking
situation
again,
staff
tried
to
do
the
right
thing
for
residents.
It
is
a
park
with
a
lot
of
activity.
A
lot
of
sports
and
parking
is
tough.
There
we
had
a
hearing
for
angled
parking,
we
could
add
additional
parking
if
we
angled
it
along
Reno
Road.
It
was
a
Wednesday
night
just
like
tonight.
A
lot
of
people
who
work
and
who
have
kids
didn't
show
up
to
tell
us
how
they
felt
we
approved
it.
Thinking
we
were
doing
doing
the
residence
a
favor.
K
L
Good
evening,
nice
to
see
everyone,
my
husband,
Jeff
and
I
are
also
residents
of
Deer
Ridge.
We
leave
at
3356
Mountain
Trail
Avenue,
we've
been
there
for
five
years
and
we
love
the
neighborhood.
We
are
also
against
the
stop
signs
and
the
reasons
are
they're
expensive
to
add.
We
don't
need
that
additional
expense,
especially
these
days
there
have
been
no
accidents
except,
like
you
were
saying,
I
didn't
know
about
that.
L
L
We
don't
need
more,
stop
signs,
it
would
take
us
more
time
to
get
everywhere
and
if
we're
safe
and
responsible,
we
don't
need
that
which
leads
me
to
my
last
one,
which
it's
a
an
example
of
over
regulation,
which
we
feel
it
would
be.
So
we
again,
my
husband
and
I
are
against
the
stop
signs
and
we
live
at
3356,
Mountain
Trail.
Thank
you
very
much.
M
M
We
have
a
very
clear
visibility
line
of
sight
to
that
T
intersection
where
Remington
dead
ends
at
Deer,
Valley
I
have
never
in
25
years,
seen
anybody
coming
out
of
the
Remington
cul-de-sac
and
just
just
driving
advancing
directly
onto
Deer
Valley
without
a
prudent
safe
stop
because
it
would
be.
It
would
be
foolhardy
for
them
to
do
that
because
of
the
bend
in
in
Deer
Valley
Avenue.
They
have
to
come
to
a
Full
Stop.
They
they
can't
even
roll
through
there
safely
without
coming
to
a
Full,
Stop
So.
M
M
F
F
However,
the
issue
that
we're
we're
looking
at
is
the
behavior
is
that
okay,
our,
although
it's
not
posted,
stop
signs
would
serve
as
that
daily
visual
reminder
to
drivers
that
you
know
if
they're
rolling
through
they're
they're
they're,
not
stopping
at
all
that
what
the
vehicle
code
regulation
is
that
you
do
have
to
yield
the
right-of-way
versus.
If
it's
not
posted,
they
don't
get
that
daily
reminder,
and
this
is
going
to
benefit
the
bicyclists
as
well
as
pedestrians
who
are
approaching
at
that
intersection.
F
F
And
if
you
look
at
page
three
of
the
staff
report,
we
list
every
intersection
that
we're
considering
tonight
and
it
lists,
on
the
second
column,
the
cause
of
visual
impairment,
whether
it
be
Landscaping,
Park
vehicles,
Road
curvature,
and
then
we
identify
on
which
corner
of
that
intersection.
That
impairment
is
located.
So
we
do
drove
out
to
each
of
these
locations
to
see.
Do
we
have
that
275
feet
of
un?
F
You
know
clear
line
of
sight,
and
in
each
of
these
cases
we
found
that
we
did
not
have
that
275
feet
that
we're
looking
for
someone
mentioned
that
these
stop
signs
once
you
know,
if
they
were
to
go
in
parking,
would
be
eliminated.
That
is
not
the
case.
The
stop
signs
will
be
placed
on
the
corners
where
most
of
these
locations
already
have
a
street
name
sign.
So
what
we
would
do
is
Elevate
the
height
of
the
street
name
sign
host
the
stop
sign
right
below
it.
B
Thank
you
just
to
confirm
any
other
staff
members,
no
okay,
I'll
turn
back
to
my
fellow
Commissioners
after,
of
course
thanking
everyone
who
came
out
tonight,
both
online
and
in
person
any
any
public
common
feedback.
That's
why
we're
here
and
that's
why
we're
going
to
turn
back
to
the
Commissioners
and
have
a
good
conversation
here.
So
any
further
questions
for
staff
on
this
item.
E
E
E
Is
it
safe
to
assume
that
there's
a
concern
you
know,
especially
where
this
neighborhood
is?
You
know
we
all
know.
Wendy
and
Lynn.
Are
you
know
higher
speed
main
roads
is
the
primary
concern
from
staff
that,
as
you're
exiting
you
know
those
roads
you're
going
at
a
higher
velocity
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
you're
entering
a
neighborhood
where
children
are,
and
you
know
there
there's
a
tendency,
maybe
to
be
going
through
the
neighborhood
at
a
higher
clip
is,
is
that
is
that,
what's
prompting
you
know
this
discussion.
F
No
basically
I
I
may
have
mentioned
it
earlier
that
you
know
we're
just
looking
at
engineering
factors
at
this
these
locations
and
we're
looking
at
that
visibility.
So,
if
you're
approaching
from
the
terminating
leg
you
know,
do
you
have
a
clear
line
of
sight
and
as
if
you
were
not
going
to
stop
of
you
know
traffic
on
the
the
the
through
Street
or
the
what's
considered
the
major
Street
and
in
each
of
these
locations
we
did
not
find
that
line
of
sight
that
we're
looking
for.
F
Yeah
I
think
it
varies
depending
on
location
and-
and
you
know
where
they're
going
to
in
the
neighborhood,
but
usually
there's
always
a
report
that
a
vehicle
as
they
enter
from
the
major
Street
and
into
the
residential
street.
There's
always
that
concern
that
you
know
they're
they're
still
in
the
in
the
mode
of
driving
at
the
higher
rate
of
speed.
E
Yeah
I
guess
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
to
balance.
My
final
thought
is
what
I'm
trying
to
balance
is
you
know
what
we're
hearing
from
the
speakers,
and
then
you
know
what
what
the
engineering
report
and
and
guidelines
are
saying,
and
you
know
if
to
me
if,
if
there
is
some
Middle
Ground,
where
a
stop
sign
is
put
at
the
immediate,
you
know
spots
there
that
have
been
discussed.
E
B
F
H
A
B
I
guess
did
staff
consider
because
we,
for
you
know
some
of
our
public
comment.
People
have
attested
to
because
for
many
many
years
these
folks
have
been
living
in
these
neighborhoods
and
driving
these
streets
and
having
uncontrolled,
essentially
uncontrolled
intersections.
Was
there
any
other
consideration
or
any
other
alternatives
for
given
or
thought
of
by
staff
before
moving
to
something
like
a
stop
sign
and
I'm?
Just
throwing
that
out
there
again
I'm,
not
an
engineer
but
coming
back
to
the
vehicle
code.
B
If
we're
looking
for
a
daily
reminder
to
yield
versus
a
stop
sign,
would
a
yield
sign
be
more
appropriate
because
you
can
essentially
put
a
stop
sign
there?
It
doesn't.
It
obviously
changes
the
nature
of
that
intersection
and
removes
that
vehicle
code
from
really
being
there.
But
if
we're
looking
for
a
visual
reminder,
would
a
yield
sign
be
more
appropriate
versus
a
stop
sign.
E
F
Yield
sign
could
could
be
used,
however.
That's
where
it's
sometimes
the
yield
definition
might
be
a
little
bit
ambiguous
to
to
drivers,
especially
with
the
at
the
corners
that
we
identified
in
the
staff
report.
You
know,
there's
there's
the
vegetation.
There's
could
be
parked
cars.
There's
Road
curvature
things
like
that,
but
with
a
stop
sign,
it's
it's
it's
clear
that
you
know
to
avoid
any
conflict.
We
prefer
Vehicles
do
stop
before
they
do
injure
the
intersection.
So
they
avoid
you
know
the
conflict
because
they
may
not
see
a
vehicle.
F
B
N
So
you,
when
it
comes
to
yielding
the
main
thoroughfare,
the
main
road
has
the
right
of
way
the
Terminus
Road
has
to
yield
to
it.
So
it
would
be
depending
on
the
size
of
the
road,
but
these
are
basically
cul-de-sacs
that
come
down
there,
so
it
would
be
yielding
to
the
vehicle's
in
motion
on
the
larger
thoroughfare.
B
B
And
I
guess
I
just
want
to
point
out
for
also
my
fellow
Commissioners.
We
also
have
Campbell
Avenue
at
Fordham,
which
is
not
part
of
this
neighborhood
I
mean
a
different
different
portion
of
it,
but
we
do
have
that
other
issue,
which
is
actually
a
four-way,
stop
correct
and
I
guess
coming
back
to
looking
through
this,
that
was
my
initial
question.
I
was
concerned
about
Campbell
and
Fordham
being
so
close
to
Lynn.
Was
there
going
to
be
any?
B
F
F
D
Thank
you
chair.
If,
if
I
could
just
go
ahead,
and
maybe
kick
off
my
my
thoughts
about
really
the
Deer
Ridge
Community
in
terms
of
the
11,
stop
signs
so
I'm
just
trying
to
be
a
pragmatist
here,
this
community
doesn't
really
seem
to
me
to
be
like
a
pass-through
Community
where
people
are
shortcutting
through
it
to
avoid
larger
roadways
like
Lynn
and
Wendy.
It
seems
to
me
that
this
community
is
pretty
isolated.
D
Most
of
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
coming
into
and
going
out
of
this
community
live
there.
They
know
their
way
around
the
neighborhood.
They
know
when
they're
supposed
to
yield,
given
that
and
the
dearth
of
collisions
in
the
community
I'm
kind
of
sympathetic
to
some
of
the
opposition
to
installing
you
know,
11
stop
signs
in
a
neighborhood
which
has
never
had
them
before.
D
You
know
also
considering
that
130
notices
went
out
regarding
this,
this
particular
item
and
nobody
has
appeared
to
strongly
support
it
more
stop
signs,
but
you
do
have
several
people
showing
up
to
say:
we
don't
really
need
it
and
I'm
kind
of
inclined
to
trust
their
judgment
on
that
because
they're
the
residents
in
the
community.
So
those
are
my
preliminary
thoughts
but
I'd
like
to
hear
what
everybody
else
has
to
say.
B
We
do
have
one
positive
written
comment,
but
it's
for
the
Campbell
Avenue
at
Fordham,
but
I
I
have
a
tendency
to
agree-
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
reminded
of
my
time
not
only
on
this
commission
but
seeing
other
commissions
do
their
work
and
knowing
the
history
of
our
city,
we
tend
to
do
things
a
little
slower
than
everybody
else.
In
terms
of
gradual
change.
B
We
did
have
one
positive
comment
on
Golden
Crest
at
Aaron,
Leia
I,
believe
that
was
yes
golden
crested
Aaron
Leia,
which
I
have
a
tendency
because
of
the
nature
of
that
particular
T
intersection,
yeah
thinking
about
supporting,
but
certainly
the
rest
of
these.
This
is
a
this
is
a
large
change
for
a
single
neighborhood
and
I
I
can
understand,
and
and
certainly
sympathize
with,
the
process
that
staff
went
through
and
and
looking
at
this.
This
is
a
older
neighborhood.
B
The
only
one
out
of
that
11
is
that
that
first
one
for
me
that
golden
crested
Aaron
Leia
that
I'm
I
have
a
tendency
to
support
the
rest
of
them.
I
think
it's
I'm,
leaning
towards
it's
too
much
too
soon,
without
further
study
and
and
feedback
and
and
getting
a
better
understanding
of
what
the
neighborhood
wants.
B
G
Yeah
I
actually
live
in
Newbury,
Park
and
so
I
reside
very
close
to
the
neighborhood,
that's
up
for
discussion
and
can
attest
to
its
quiet
and
peaceful
nature
and
can
understand
how
11
stop
signs
in
a
compact.
Neighborhood
might
be
a
lot.
Likewise,
with
my
my
fellow
Commissioners
I
think
I'd
be
open
to
the
discussion
of
of
1
in
12
as
well,
in
support
of
and
sort
of
taking
it
from
there
and
seeing
how
the
community
responds
to
those
stop
signs
and
then
possibly
revisiting
in
the
future.
If
need
be,.
H
H
F
H
F
H
F
E
I
think
you're
coming
from
safety
and
I
I
appreciate
the
residents
coming
out
and
speaking
you
it
it's
noteworthy
if
you've
been
in
the
neighborhood
for
35
32
years,
as
some
of
you
mentioned,
you
know,
what's
going
on
on
those
roads,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
commissioner
comments
about
1
in
12,
12
being
the
other
neighborhood
I'm
assuming
and
then
one
here,
Golden
Krust
and
Aaron
Aaron
Leia
did
I
I.
Have
it
right,
though,
that
the
the
Collision
took
place
at
number?
E
Two
okay
are:
did
we
I
heard
one
in
12,
but
did
we
was
that
purposeful
or
do
we
do?
We
want
to
look
at
two
as
well?
I
I
am
also
with
you
and
kind
of
leaning
towards
this
slower
approach,
and
you
know
we
are
reacting
to
this
Collision
that
took
place,
but
I
do
feel
like
based
on
everything
we've
heard
tonight.
It
may
be
a
step
too
far
to
go.
Full
bore
with
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
clarification
from
commissioners.
B
D
Commissioner,
just
to
follow
up
on
commissioner
Callahan's
comments.
I,
you
know,
I
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
the
city
staff
is
motivated
by
Public
Safety,
as
should
we
and
and
that's
to
be
appreciated
I
as
I
kind
of
I
hope.
I
made
clear
in
my
previous
comments.
I
just
don't
see
a
big
public
safety
issue
in
this
community,
but
certainly
with
respect
to
locations,
1
and
12.
D
I.
Don't
think
I
really
have
an
objection
to
that.
As
far
as
location
number
two,
where
the
Collision
occurred,
I
mean
my
thoughts
on
that,
whether
right
or
wrong
is
that
that
was
kind
of
an
anomaly
and
that
that
Collision
could
have
happened
at
any
one
of
these
intersections
and
it
just
unfortunate.
But
certainly
by
no
means
is
it
a
likelihood
to
to
happen
again.
But
I
do
agree
with
location
one
with
the
proximity
to
Wendy
that
maybe
some
some
more
care
should
be
afforded
at
that
particular
intersection.
B
I
I
have
a
tendency
to
agree
on
that.
You
know
my
my
thought
is
that
if
we
take
this
more
measured
approach,
this
is
not
the
end
of
the
road
in
terms
of
possibilities
for
the
particular
neighborhood
I.
Think
we
heard
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation
that
this
is
a
yearly
kind
of
stop
sign
installation
action
item.
This
is
something
that,
for
my
fellow
Commissioners
knew
on
the
commission.
You'll
hear
a
few
times
over
the
course
of
your
term
and
considering
the
nature
of
the
cost
involved.
B
You
know
this
isn't
something
that
is
going
to
be
a
you
know.
This
is
a
minuscule
budget
item
in
a
large
scale,
Public
Works
budgetary
process.
This
isn't
a
traffic
light
that
costs
thousands
of
dollars.
This
is
a
500
intersection,
so
this
is
something
that
I
think
we
can
explore
down
the
line
if
there
is
study
and
traffic
counts
and
neighborhood
feedback
to
revisit
so
I
I'll
actually
go
ahead
and
make
the
the
motion,
and
then
we
can.
We
can
take
it
piecemeal
from
there
if
we
need
to.
B
But
my
motion
will
be
to
consider
the
staff
report
receive
public
input
and
recommend
a
city
council
adopt
a
resolution,
designating
numbers
one
and
number
12.
so
two
locations
as
intersections
controlled
by
stop
signs
and
directing
staff
to
install
stop
signs
at
those
two
locations,
one
being
Golden
Crest
Avenue
at
Aaron,
Leia,
Avenue,
T,
intersection,
Golden
Crest
Avenue,
facing
southbound
traffic
and
number
12
Campbell
Avenue
at
Fordham,
Avenue,
four-way,
intersection,
Fordham
Avenue,
facing
Eastbound
and
Westbound
traffic.
B
D
E
G
B
A
A
A
B
Thank
you,
Mrs
Vasquez
and
I
want
to
thank
again
everyone
that
came
out
tonight.
The
public
speakers
you
know
as
Mrs
Vasquez
just
mentioned.
This
will
go
to
city
council
for
final
approval,
so
I
will
say
the
road
is
not
over
here
tonight.
Look
for
it
at
city,
council
and
please
continue
to
voice
voice
your
opinions.
So
thank
you.
B
O
You
good
evening,
good
evening,
thank
you,
chair
Pletcher
and
members
of
the
commission
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
you
with
this
update
on
Rancho
Conejo
biotech
area
sidewalk
project.
My
name
is
Masoud
razavi
and
I'm.
An
engineering
associate
with
the
public
works
Department's
capital
projects
division.
O
The
project
is
located
in
the
Rancho
Canal
biotech
area
of
the
city,
which
is
generally
north
of
101,
freeway
and
west
of
Rancho
Canelo
Boulevard
as
part
of
this
project,
we'll
be
installing
incomplete
sidewalk
segments
within
the
project
limits.
Retrofitting
existing
curb
ramps
to
meet
ADA
requirements
and
providing
enhanced
crosswalks
lack
of
sidewalk
in
the
proposed
locations
causes
pedestrians
to
walk
in
the
street
through
dirt
or
landscape
area.
O
The
first
segment
shown
here
is
teller,
wrote
from
Lawrence
Drive
to
Marion
Street,
which
is
approximately
a
thousand
feet
proposed.
Sidewalks
will
be
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
shown
in
red
here
we'll
add
a
new
eight
foot
wide
sidewalk
and
reconstruct
the
two
curb
Ada
curb
ramps.
The
bottom
pictures
show
the
existing
segments,
which
have
no
sidewalks
moving
to
segment.
Two.
We
have
Lawrence
Drive
between
Hillcrest,
Drive
and
Teller.
O
O
Here's
a
closer
view
of
the
Hillcrest
Drive
at
Lawrence
Drive
that
shows
the
proposed
sidewalks
marked
crosswalks
and
the
street
lighting.
And
finally,
we
have
segment
four,
which
is
the
improvements
on
Corporate
Center
Drive
at
this
location.
We'll
extend
the
sidewalk
on
both
sides
of
the
street
to
access
Rancho,
Canelo
Boulevard
and
install
an
enhanced
pedestrian
crosswalk
at
the
intersection
which
features
rapid
flashing
beacons.
The
rrfbs
mounted
atop
as
signal
Mast
arm
and
one
in
beacons
in
advance
of
the
intersection
on
Rancho
Canal
Boulevard.
O
Here's
a
closer
view
of
this
segment
showing
sidewalks
pedestrian,
crosswalks
and
Rapid
flashing
beacons
on
the
North
Leg
of
the
intersection.
The
photos
on
the
right
show
the
existing
conditions,
which
illustrate
the
need
for
intersection
enhancements
in
order
to
safely
cross
Rancho
Canelo
Boulevard.
O
This
helps
to
illustrate
the
visual
effectiveness
of
having
elevated
warning
signs
and
beacons
to
alert
drivers
of
pedestrian
activity
when
the
warning
system
is
activated
at
this
location,
this
location
doesn't
feature
rapid
flashing
beacons,
since
it
was
constructed
prior
to
the
development
of
the
of
this
system.
However,
we
make
it
practice
to
incorporate
the
most
current
Technologies
at
newly
constructed,
enhanced
crosswalks
by
featuring
rapid
flashing
beacons
at
the
crosswalk
advanced
warning,
beacons
ahead
of
crosswalk
yield,
pavement
markings,
the
shark
teeth
and
fluorescent
warning,
yellow
lights,
yellow
signs.
O
This
is
an
example
of
an
advanced
warning.
Beacon
set
several
hundred
feet
before
the
enhanced
crosswalk.
These
warning
beacons
can
be
equipped
with
a
single
LED
light
shown
on
the
left
or
a
double
LED
shown
on
the
right
which
blinks,
alternatively,
to
get
the
driver's
attention
for
this
project.
We're
looking
to
use
the
double
LED
option
due
to
the
width
of
the
street,
as
well
as
the
speed
of
traffic,
and
this
photo
shows
the
type
of
yield
pavement
markings
and
yield
to
pedestrian
signs.
O
To
be
used
at
the
crosswalk
on
Rancho
Canelo
Boulevard,
the
project
includes
funding
the
Project
funding
includes
1.6
million
dollars
from
federal
funding
from
covet
relief
and
Recovery
supplemental
appropriation
act
cressa.
This
is
the
first
time
we're
receiving
this
type
of
Grant
and
1.6
million
dollars
from
General
funds.
O
O
O
H
O
We
have
a
our
consultant
is
providing
us
with
a
tree
report.
We
I
believe
we
are.
We
would
be
eliminating
two
trees,
but
in
the
bioswell
that
I
mentioned
on
Hillcrest
Drive,
we'll
be
planting
trees
and
in
the
bio
soil
as
well,
and
on
Teller
Road,
we'll
be
using
tree
planters
in
the
sidewalk
three
by
three
Planters
in
the
sidewalks.
Thank.
H
E
Just
to
piggyback
on
that
question
is:
it
is
my
assumption
right
if
essentially
you're
you're
narrowing
the
road
to
create
the
sidewalk,
rather
than
it
seemed
like
there
were
more
than
two
trees
in
in
one
of
the
photos.
Look
there
were
five
at
least
that
would
need
to
be
removed.
Is
it
is
it?
The
road
does
look
pretty
wide?
Is
that
what's
happening,
you're
just
putting
the
sidewalk
further
in.
E
O
Going
to
stay
within
this
city
is
right
away
behind
a
curb,
so
we
are,
we
will
be
repairing
the
curbs
at
the
sections
that
need
to
be
repaired,
but
we're
trying
to
keep
the
costs
down
and
keep
everything
behind
yeah.
The
pictures
are
to
an
extent
deceiving
I've
been
out
there
with
tape
measures
and
they
are
outside.
We've
had
our
city
landscape
division
out
there
and
we've
looked
at
it
and
we're
we're
going
to
be
paying
very
close
attention,
especially
in
on
Rancho
Canal
on
Corporate
Center
Drive.
O
E
B
Well
I'll
just
say
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
compliment
City
staff
on
getting
that
extra
Federal
that
vctc
Federal
funding
staff
always
works
so
so
incredibly
hard
at
getting
that
extra
pieces
of
funding.
So
I
want
to.
Thank
you.
It's
a
lot
of
work
certainly
noted
and
appreciated
just
to
drill
down
on
a
couple
points
just
because
I
looking
at
details
on
the
Hillcrest
section,
can
you
tell
me
just
what
is
a
bio,
swell
kind
of
a
newer
term.
O
I
apologize,
I,
don't
have
a
picture
of
it
here,
a
slide
for
you.
A
biosoil
is
in
this
case
it's
going
to
be
12
foot
wide
section,
that's
going
to
be
dug
in
so.
If,
if
you
were
to
look
at
a,
if
you
look
at
a
look
at
it,
it's
just
simply
it's
a
ditch
that
is
covered
with
plant
material
that
will
survive,
and
it's
and
it
actually
uses.
We
use
that
to
be
able
to
treat
the
runoff
the
storm
water
rough
on
health.
O
The
reason
we're
using
it
on
Hillcrest
is
because
the
especially
on
the
west
side
of
Lawrence
is
because
all
of
that
water
from
the
runoff
from
the
parking
lot
just
simply
goes
into
our
storm
drains.
It
doesn't
do
anything
it
comes
into
the
street
and
into
the
storm
drains.
This
way
we
can
treat
that
water
before
we.
We
try
to
get
some
infiltration
in
there.
B
P
So
that's
a
something
new
we're
trying
to
incorporate
on
every
project
we
have
and
which
we
did
recently
on
Willow
Lane
Willow
Lane
has
one
as
you're
driving
about
halfway
down
it.
It's
a
smaller
one,
but
it's
more
of
a
linear
one,
and
then
we
also
have
also
one
on
Lawrence
Drive
in
teller.
So
it's
a
newer
element
and
we're
we're
keeping
up
with
the
time
so.
B
O
We
just
got
the
public
website
up
the
project
website
up
we'll
be
starting
right
now,
because
we're
at
65.
We
still
have
a
lot
of
information
that
we
need
to
go
through
once
we
get
the
90.
That's
what
I
mentioned
at
90,
it's
going
to
be
a
full-on
public
Outreach,
including
going
door
to
door
door
to
door
so
I'll
be
out
there
with
my
yellow,
yellow
jacket,
going
around
trying
to
feel
as
much
as
I
can
that's
for
the
the
owners
for
the
for
the
properties.
B
O
We
are
working
within
our
right-of-way,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
asking
for
any
right
away.
We
will
be
needing
some
permit
to
enter
because
some
of
the
driveways
need
to
be
once
we
put
the
sidewalk
in,
we
definitely
would
have
to
fix
their
driveways,
which
means
we
need
to
get
into
their
driveways,
but
that's
other
than
that.
We're
not
we're
trying
to
stay
away
from
it.
That's
that's
a
bigger
red
tape
with
Caltrans
than
I
wanted.
B
B
B
Okay,
I
gotta
check
boxes
as
a
as
a
as
a
chair,
everybody,
okay,
Last
Call,
on
discussion.
Okay,
we'll
move
on.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
We
will
move
on
to
item
six
reflective
traffic
signal
back
plates
at
32,
intersections
adjacent
to
the
101
and
23
freeways
report.
By
associate
engineer,
Robert
Sweden.
Q
Q
So
the
city
council
adopted
a
local
Road
Safety
plan
back
in
August
of
2021.
That
is
part
of
the
requirement
that
is
needed
to
get
an
H
sip
Grant,
which
is
your
highway
safety
Improvement
program,
and
that
is
to
help
develop
areas
within
the
community
to
improve
commuter
bicycle
pedestrian
safety
data
was
collected
and
one
of
those
safety
items
that
was
identified
was
to
put
in
yellow
reflective
back
to
excuse
me
back
plates
on
32
of
our
136
traffic
signals.
Q
Q
Q
Q
So
we
had
had
some
compliance
issues
out
there.
We
had
tried
multiple
other
things
to
install,
and
then
we
added
the
reflectorized
tape
as
you
see
here.
So
if
you
go
back,
here's
the
before
again,
here's
after
you
can
see
how
the
Yellow
Tape
helps
bring
to
your
attention
and
our
compliance
rate
went
down
significantly
at
that
particular
location.
Q
There
are
32
of
our
136
traffic
signals
that
we're
looking
to
do
here.
This
is
the
location
map
the
majority
of
them
are
at
or
near
the
101
and
the
23
freeway.
Also
a
couple
of
our
major
corridors:
that's
Thousand,
Oaks
Boulevard
and
Moore
Park
Road,
and
this
is
also
where
our
higher
volumes
are
and
some
of
our
higher
Collision
rates.
That's
what
we
kind
of
use
to
determine
these
locations.
Q
In
the
tentative
schedule
is
to
for
the
installation
is
to
advertise
to
get
bids
for
those
here
in
the
coming
months
in
the
summer,
go
to
city
council
for
approval
of
the
contract
and
then
start
the
installation
process
in
the
Fallout
23
hoping
to
be
completed
by
the
spring
of
24.
There
are
approximately
562
signal
heads
at
those
32
locations
that
would
have
to
be
done.
Q
D
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
report
on
the
surface.
This
looks
like,
like
kind
of
like
a
no-brainer
like.
Why
would
you
not
do
it?
If,
if
you
had
the
money
to
do
it
and
it
was
available,
why
would
you
not
on
the
on
the
traffic
signals
that
already
have
a
a
back
plate?
Is
it
simply
a
function
of
like
putting
reflective
tape
around
the
edge
of
that
black
tape
or
or
that
that
that
back
plate
or
do
do
you
have
to
just
completely
take
down?
Q
You
actually
have
the
option
of
both,
so
when
you
get
a
new
one
to
our
brand
new
intersection
at
Lawrence
and
Teller,
it
came
that
way
with
the
back
plates.
In
this
case,
we
would
be
just
adding
tape
to
the
outer
edges,
which
is
what
we
did
at
Grande
Vista.
You
buy
a
roll
of
tape
and
literally
go
up
and
and
tape
it
around
the
outer
edges
of
the
back
plate.
So
that
would
be
our
installation
process
in
this
case,
because
in
order
to
do
it
the
opposite
way
to
buy
it
already
on
there.
Q
D
Okay,
oh
that
sounds
great
I
was
just
looking
at
the
you
know.
The
cost
for
for
the
project
is
175
thousand
dollars,
and
so
I
was
going
to
volunteer
my
services
and
my
ladder.
If
you'll
stop
traffic
from
me,
I
I
will
go
up
and
put
reflective
tape
around
the
back
plates,
but
no
I.
This
looks
good
to
me
so
well
done.
Thank
you.
G
Q
Again,
it's
near
the
101,
the
23,
which
has
the
most
volume
of
traffic
as
people
are
coming
off,
the
roadway
also
Collision
rates.
So
we
looked
at
all
those
as
a
factor
and
then
determine
we
want
to
start
with
that.
So
that
doesn't
mean
we
won't
do
more
later.
But
that's
we
want
to
start
with
where
we
have
higher
rates
and.
P
Q
B
Q
B
Thank
you,
I
certainly
see
at
the
Grande
Vista
drive
there
all
the
time
with
Target
and
Lowe's
and
everything
I.
Without
my
compliance
Factor
at
that
particular
intersection.
You
know
I've
slammed
on
my
brakes
more
times,
realizing
that
there's,
because
my
your
your
whole
field
of
vision
is
down
the
line
you
you
so
I
certainly
see
the
benefits
of
programs
like
this.