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C
Well,
sorry,
for
the
little
late
start,
but
welcome
to
the
march
20th
2019
meeting
of
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission.
Please
rise
and
follow
me
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
B
D
D
C
All
right,
this
is
marcelo.
Please
call
the
roll
sello.
C
D
A
D
Inquisitive,
as
any
citizen
would
be,
who
didn't
have
all
the
information
we
had,
so
she
she
had
the
has
the
talent
of
asking
questions
that
I
think
people
who
were
not
on
the
commission.
Reading
all
of
our
stuff
would
ask-
and
I
think
that
was
something
we
haven't
seen
on
the
commission
for
quite
some
time
and
now
she's
kind
of
like
first
lady
of
thousand
oaks,
so
she's
not
only
helped
us
here,
but
she
inspired
her
husband
to
greater
things.
So
thank
you,
sir.
C
We're
only
as
good
as
the
people
that
support
us
right,
always
anyways.
Let
me
say
a
few
things
up
here
and
then
I
have
something
to
present
to
you,
but
I
too
am
going
to
miss
you.
Your
insights
were
always
very
valuable
and
I
mean
we
all
have
similar
thoughts
and
we
always
go
hey.
I
was
going
to
say
that,
but
you
know
I
always
found
that
you
had
something
or
looked
at
it,
a
little
different
that
always
had
validity
and
really
added
to
the
conversation.
C
So
whenever
we
can
come
up
with
the
best
solution,
looking
at
all
the
alternatives,
you
know
we
do
our
job
and
and
we
support
the
people
like.
We
were
asked
to
do-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
very
much
also
it's
never
fun
to
have
to
take
your
personal
time
to
come
here.
Sometime
and
I
understand
you're,
a
really
good
basketball
fan
right.
So
there's
a
few
games,
you
missed.
No,
I
was
kidding
about
that.
Oh
I
think
that
was
me.
C
B
Okay-
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
guys.
Welcome
to
the
commission.
I
have
loved
the
seven
years
that
I
served
on
the
commission
and
I
I
am
leaving
with
a
sad
heart
because
I
did
enjoy
it
and
I
felt
that
it
was
a
great
opportunity
to
see
how
well
our
city
works,
and
I
know
that
this
commission
is
part
of
it's
the
first
step
for
a
lot
of
our
residents,
and
this
commission
really
helped
our
residents
accomplish
a
few
things
like
say
what
their
concerns
were.
B
C
C
D
C
C
There
you
go
all
right,
so
actually
we
have
a
a
new
commissioner
that
we
want
to
welcome
aboard
and
it's
commissioner
lawrence
emmel.
I
think
I
got
that
right,
darn,
I'm
so
bad
with
names.
Lately,
anyways
normally
we'd
do
a
swear
in.
But
since
we're
a
couple
commissioners
short
today,
he
graciously
allowed
us
to
do
it
early.
So
we
could
officially
call
the
meeting
today
so
lawrence
welcome
aboard.
You
want
to
say
word.
E
Well,
I'm
just
glad
to
be
here
and
I'm
I'm
glad
to
make
this
meeting
possible
by
being
sworn
in
early.
I
I
certainly
appreciate
the
meeting
that
I
just
had
with
the
city
attorney
and
the
engineers
I
I
grew
up
in
thousand
oaks.
E
I've
since,
since
the
age
of
five,
all
the
way
through
my
graduation
from
west
lake
high
school
and
this
city
has
meant
the
world
to
me-
and
I
I
was
so
happy
when
I
could
move
my
family
back
here
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
because
the
birth
of
my
daughter
necessitated
that
we
get
out
of
the
craziness
of
l.a,
and
I
told
my
wife-
I
have
the
perfect
place
for
us
to
be
that's
back
in
my
hometown
of
thousand
oaks.
E
So
I'm
ecstatic
to
be
back
and
I'm
very
happy
to
be
sitting
on
this
board.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
of
you
who
made
that
possible.
Thank
you.
C
All
right
and
we're
glad
to
have
you
aboard.
We
look
forward
to
your
future
contributions
and
please
feel
free
to
ask
any
questions
that
we
all
went
through
a
learning
process
and
still
are
for
that
matter,
all
right.
So
we're
going
to
move
on
to
six,
because
we
do
have
a
big
report
coming
up.
Let's
see
election
of
new
chair
term
runs
till
march
2020.
D
D
This
is
your
15th,
so
I
think
that
would
be.
This
is
a
great
way
for
you
to
wrap
up
number
15
and
start.
C
C
I
accept
so
let
it
be
read
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
seven
and
that
selection
of
the
new
vice
chair
and
if
I
recall
correctly,
commissioner
lemo
is
up
for
that.
It's
his
rotation
and
turn.
So
I
nominate
him.
Do
we
have
a
second
for
that?
C
A
second
all
right
and
we're
official
okay?
Well,
number
eight
should
go
fairly
quick
because
we
have
public
comment
and
I'm
looking
here
and
there's
a
big
sea
of
empty
seats.
So
I
think
we
could
probably
skip
over
that
one
today,
all
right,
we
do
have
a
big
report
and
we
want
to
get
to
it.
So
we're
going
to
skip
over
public
comment,
and
that
puts
me
to
approving
summary
notes
from
our
last
meeting
and
so
do
we
need
a
row,
a
vote
for
that.
C
To
approve
the
summary
notes,
all
right,
we're
gonna
do
a
show
of
hands
or
we
don't
need
one.
Okay,
all
right,
they're
approved
it,
wasn't
anything
that
critical.
We
just
put
some
stop
signs
in
where
that's
all
that's
all,
and
not
for
traffic
control.
C
All
right,
let's
see
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
10,
and
we
have
a
big
report
and
it
is
the
draft
citywide
traffic
impact
mitigation
fee
nexus
study,
and
this
is
actually
a
study
that
we
used
to
do
every
five
years.
It's
been
moved
to
two
years.
It's
pretty
comprehensive
and
anybody
that's
interested
in
what
the
biggest
concerns
we
have
today,
but
also
projected
out
to
2040
is
a
good
report
so
base
basically
kathy.
Are
you
giving
that
one
to
the
or
kathy
kathy
is
okay,
all
right.
C
Anyway,
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
traffic
report,
which
is
something
that
we
are
going
to
vote
on,
whether
we
are
going
to
accept
it
and
move
on
to
the
city
council
with
it
go
ahead.
A
A
Since
1968
the
city
had
began,
conducting
a
community
opinion
survey
to
sample
resident
satisfaction
and
sediment
on
a
variety
of
important
community
issues.
A
survey
was
conducted
in
2017
and
the
results
revealed
traffic
congestion
is
the
issue
of
highest
concern
with
the
residents
in
response
to
the
survey
results
kimberly
horne
associates,
an
engineering
firm
was
hired
to
prepare
a
comprehensive
city-wide
traffic
study.
A
Historically,
the
city
uses
the
icu
or
the
capacity
methodology
to
determine
the
level
service
at
intersections,
it
looks
at
how
big
an
intersection
is
and
how
many
cars
are
going
through
it
and
determines
how
much
capacity
is
available.
The
hcm
or
the
delay
methodology
is
a
methodology
that
measures
delay
in
terms
of
how
much
time
it
takes
to
travel
through
an
intersection.
A
Level
of
service
or
los
is
commonly
used
to
measure
how
an
intersection
is
operating
and
los
a
is
the
best,
and
an
los
f
is
the
worst
using
the
capacity
methodology.
Only
one
intersection
operates
below
the
level
service
seat.
Today,
it's
the
northbound
off
ramp
at
the
23
and
olsen
during
the
during
the
morning
commute
as
you
can
see
from
all
the
green
on
this
map.
The
results
of
the
icu
methodology
does
not
reflect
the
results
of
the
opinion
survey.
A
During
the
morning
commute
hour,
traffic
is
heaviest
on
lynn
road
with
most
of
the
traffic
traveling
southbound
towards
the
101,
which
is
shown
with
the
green
arrow.
The
traffic
signal
is
green
for
lynn
road
for
two-thirds
of
the
cycle
length.
Conversely,
arbolous
traffic
is
lower
than
lin
road
and
the
heaviest
movement
on
arbelis
is
the
west.
Westbound
left
turn
lane
shown
with
the
red
arrow.
The
icu
methodology
evaluates
the
total
capacity
of
each
lane.
A
In
this
case,
the
left
turn
on
arbilus
has
a
capacity
of
1600
vehicles
per
hour
in
the
morning,
170
vehicles
turn
left,
which
is
significantly
lower
than
the
capacity
which
makes
for
a
good
level
service.
In
this
case,
it's
a
level
service
c.
The
hcm
methodology
uses
traffic
volumes
and
signal
timing
to
determine
the
level
service.
A
In
this
case,
lynn,
road
has
two-thirds
the
volume
and
the
signal
is
programmed
to
stay
green
for
63
percent
of
the
cycle
length,
because
the
methodology
takes
into
account
the
number
of
cars
in
the
left
turn
pocket
and
the
amount
of
time
allocated
to
the
arbless
signal.
It's
able
to
identify
the
amount
of
delay
that
people
are
experienced
while
waiting
for
the
signal
to
turn
green.
The
loss
using
the
hcm
methodology
calculates
at
a
level
service
d.
A
Because
the
icu
methodology
identifies
the
intersect
intersection
operating
at
a
good
level
service,
it
wouldn't
be
even
on
our
radar
to
make
any
improvements
here.
The
hcm
methodology
identified
the
intersection
as
deficient
and
a
mitigation
project
was
identified
by
restriping
the
intersection
we're
able
to
improve
the
level
surface
from
d
to
c.
A
A
The
city's
level
service
policy
requires
all
but
eight
signalized
intersections
to
operate
at
a
level
service
year.
Better
reasonable
mitigation
measures
are
proposed
for
all
24
impacted
intersections
and
15
intersections
will
continue
to
operate
at
a
level
service
d.
By
reasonable
I
mean
the
recommended
mitigation
measures
are
all
within
the
city
right
of
way
and
to
improve
the
intersections
would
require
additional
right-of-way
as
part
of
adopting
the
new
citywide
traffic
impact
fees.
Staff
is
recommending
using
the
hcm
methodology
for
calculating
level
service
and
accepting
a
level
service
d
for
16
intersections
with
mitigation.
A
Attachment
5
in
your
staff
report
includes
the
24
projects
that
will
mitigate
future
traffic
impacts.
Staffers
requesting
the
traffic
commission
recommend
to
the
city
council.
Adoption
of
the
mitigation
projects
included
in
the
staff
report,
which
are
based
on
the
hcm
methodology
for
calculating
impacts.
C
All
right,
one
of
our
commissioners,
commissioner
lemo,
has
a
question
right
now.
D
One
thing
that
struck
me
is
your
study
is,
is
very
comprehensive,
but
when
I'm
looking
ahead
at
the
next
21
years,
one
of
the
things
I
am
doing
is
looking
back
at
the
last
three
years
and
one
of
the
things
that
has
really
happened
in
the
last
three
years
that
will
have
a
much
bigger
effect
over
the
next
20
is
ride.
Sharing
services
uber.
A
No,
the
answer
is
no
there's
not
a
footnote,
but
what
there
is
an
understanding
that
this
is
a
snap
in
time.
Right
now
we
look
at
existing
counts,
existing
trip
generation
rates
based
on
the
land
uses
and
then
there's
a
projection
based
on
the
future
land
uses
of
the
traffic
and
that's
based
on
existing
trip
generation
rates
going
forward
after
the
city
completes
their
comprehensive
plan.
The
general
plan
update,
which
they're
working
on
several
years
from
now,
will
update
this
study
and
very
well
three
years
from
now.
A
A
E
I
do
I
I
have
one
question
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
the
capacity
methodology
has
historically
been
the
the
methodology.
That's
that's
been
used
by
the
city.
Is
that
right?
That's.
A
E
So
and
and
now
the
recommendation
is
to
go
away
from
that
and
use
the
delay
methodology.
That's
correct,
so
my
question
is:
is
can't
can't
the
delay
methodology
be
manipulated
by
reprogramming
the
lights
or
the
rates
at
which
they
change
from
red
to
green
green,
to
red.
A
Not
so
much
manipulated,
there's
there's
so
many
more
inputs
in
the
hcm
delay
methodology
than
the
capacity
methodology
capacity
methodology
is
very
straightforward.
It's
number
of
cars
over
the
number
of
lanes,
there's
not
a
lot
of
inputs,
but
with
ice.
The
the
delay
methodology
you
can
take
into
account
signal
timing.
You
can
take
into
account
if
you
have
two
lanes,
but
more
cars
stack
in
one
lane
than
the
other
you
can
adjust
for
that
and
the
the
ic.
A
A
C
Okay,
well,
I
read
through
this
pretty
pretty
thoroughly
and
I
did
some
different
counts.
I
don't
know
if
they
quite
agreed
with
yours,
but
it
it
it
forebode
some
dire
intersection
problems
in
2040.
If
we
do
nothing-
and
I
came
up
with
12,
enfs
and
11
ds,
whereas
we
only
really
have
one
eric,
literally
one
olson
and
and
the
23
northbound
right
now
is
that's
a
problem,
so
that's
kind
of
dire.
C
I
saw
all
these
recommendations
of
fixes
to
get
us
basically
down
to,
as
I
said,
if
we,
if
we
use
this
list
of
what
do
they
call
it,
it's
table
three
recommended
mitigation
projects
which
I'm
going
to
touch
on
in
a
second.
We
we
get
all
that
down
to
where's
my
count.
I
think
14
ds
overall
and
that's
it
citywide,
so
that
that
that's
pretty
good.
C
Now
what
what
I
did
have
one
question,
and
that
is
your
tables,
your
table
three,
but
it
totals
on
page
18
and
it
says
88
million
three
fifteen
thousand,
but
you've
got
a
similar
table
on
page
24
and
that
one's
89
for
404.
there's
about
a
million.
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
math
issue,
I
wasn't
going
to
compare
line
to
line,
but
there's
about
a
million
88
000
difference
there
is
is,
is
something
added
the
one
that
I
missed
just.
A
Off
without
looking
at
the
tables
exactly,
I
think
what
the
table
that
the
discrepancy
is,
that
one
of
the
intersections
that
was
needed
to
be
mitigated,
which
was
what's
like
in
canaan
when
we
applied
a
different
trip
generation
rate,
because
we
really
kept
looking
at
our
numbers
and
that
fell
out.
So
I
suspect
that
the
table
that
has
a
higher
number
still
has
westlake
and
kanan,
which
was
not
a
very
expensive
fix
in
light
of
how
much
some
of
the
other
mitigation
projects
were.
But
it
was
about
that
match.
Well,.
C
And
I
know
that
we're
constantly
updating
priorities
for
new
signals-
and
I
think
the
next
one
is
scheduled
to
be
sunset,
hills
and
herbs
and
patterson
and.
C
A
D
My
question
is
not
that
involved.
I
have
an
understanding
question
that
I
need
some
help
with
I've
been
here
33
years
we
have
once
we
have
a
city
that
is
not
increasing
its
population.
We
are
in
a
no
growth
mode,
infill
if
at
best
we
don't
have
increasing
offices
for
probably
the
last
four
to
five
years.
Some
might
even
say
we
have
decreasing,
and
our
commercial
has
stayed
outside
of
office
has
stayed
relatively
stable,
maybe
small
increases.
D
D
F
Okay,
so
actually
this
plan
anticipates
some
new
homes
and
and
and
primarily
anticipates
redevelopment
of
existing.
You
know
where
we
there's
not
a
lot
of
open
dirt
left
in
the
city,
so
those
new
residents
and
properties
and
new
uses
are
going
to
come
from
existing
areas.
So
we
worked
very
closely
with
with
hater
alawami
and
looking
at
what
are
the
potential
for
the
future
and
and
tried
to
put
the
guess
the
best
guesstimate
and-
and
if
you
think
about
this,
this
is
a
planning
document.
F
This
will
be
updated
after
the
general
plan
is
redone
and
typically
these
types
of
plans,
studies
are
updated
every
five
years
or
if
there's
a
significant
change
in
in
the
community,
don't
anticipate
any
significant
changes,
but
the
general
plan
will
change
the
outlook
going
forward.
So
that's
that's.
They
are
estimates,
but
that's
kind
of
where
it
came
from.
C
So
basically,
it's
kind
of
a
living
document
that
allows
us
to
see
the
areas
that
we
need
to
anticipate
and
maybe
apply
for
grant
monies
and
things
of
that
nature,
which
I
know
we've
had
success
in
the
past
by
identifying
the
problem
and
the
solutions
and
coming
up
with,
and
I
do
want
to
just
well
I'll
bring
it
up
later.
Sorry,
let's
stay
on
this
topic
yeah.
I
I
like
this
report.
It's
very
comprehensive,
yeah
and.
F
One
more
thing:
I
want
to
add
that
this
these
mitigation
projects
then
become
the
basis
for
your
traffic
impact
fees.
So
when
somebody
redevelops
a
property
and
adds
mixed
use
or
increases
the
density
of
that
property
and
creates
additional
trips,
you
need
to
have
a
you
need
to
have
a
document
such
as
this,
that
that
justifies
those
fees
and,
and
that
that's
that
is-
and
I
and
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
icu
versus
the
hcm
when
we
did
the
survey
of
the
community.
F
D
I
can
I
can
tell
you
that
that
is
a
hundred
percent
accurate.
Whenever
a
friend
finds
out
I'm
on
the
traffic
commission,
I
receive
a
call
within
48
hours
explaining
to
me
that
they
sat
at
lyndon
hillcrest
for
five
to
seven
minutes,
which
we
all
know
is
not
possible,
and
I
certainly
hope
he's
watching
tonight,
but
but
I
hear
this
all
the
time
and
it's
not
just
from
one
person.
First
of
all,
I
think
you
know,
as
people
are
more
rushed
and
they
want
to
get
from
point
a
to
point
b.
D
I
happen
to
take
lynn
over
hillcrest
quite
a
bit,
and
it
really
does
move
pretty
well
actually
so,
but
you're
right,
the
perception
of
people
is,
you
know,
I'm
sitting
at
a
light
for
10
minutes.
C
Yeah
and
and
just
to
illustrate
that
I
think
what
90
seconds
is
about
the
longest.
Anybody
could
possibly
wait
in
any
intersection
and
it's
typically
much
much
less
it's
more
in
the
45
to
33
second
range.
Just
so
everybody
knows
don't
be
impatient.
C
All
right
at
this
point
is
this:
something
that,
with
the
members
that
we
have
we're
going
to
make
a
recommendation
to
move
to
present
this
to
the
council,
then
would
you
like
do
you
feel
all
questions
are
answered
or.
E
Yeah,
perhaps
I
have
one
more
question,
which
is
whether
the
report
takes
into
account
that
you
know
that
the
congestion
that
the
residents
are
experiencing
is
not
it's
not
due
to
other
thousand
oaks
residents.
I
mean
the
example
of
wind
road.
I
mean
I
I
I
would.
I
would
bet
my
bottom
dollar
that
you've
got
people
taking
the
101
getting
off
at
lynn
and
driving
all
the
way
into
simi
valley,
driving
all
the
way
into
moorpark,
because
they're
missing.
E
They
want
to
avoid
that
101,
405
congestion
to
get
onto
the
23,
and
so
for
this
short
period
of
time.
At
least
you
know
during
the
peak
hour
you're
having
a
lot
of
people
on
the
road,
and
so
the
delay
that
a
lot
of
people
are
experiencing
for
that
particular
period
is
not
really
representative
of
traffic
in
the
city
experienced
as
a
result
of
other
residents
of
the
city
moving
through
the
city.
It's
due
to
the
development
of
the
cities
around
us.
A
I
would
say
that
that's
correct,
but
it
seems
that
the
example
of
arbelis
and
lynn,
the
left
turn
movement
from
our
building
to
lynn
is
probably
local
traffic
and
that's
where
they're
feeling
the
frustration
they
probably
are
sitting
here.
Thinking
I'm
watching
all
these
people
come
out
from
come
from
simi
valley
in
the
morning,
driving
down
lynn
and
I'm
sitting
here,
waiting
to
turn
left,
so
maybe
there's
a
little
that
makes
them
anxious
too,
but
you
know
the
that
could
be
part
of
it,
but
yeah
we
all
the
traffic.
C
And
I
can
guarantee
you
later
this
year,
short
shortcut
traffic,
which
we
refer
to
will
will
be
preeminent
in
any
change
we
make
to
any
neighborhood
because
you
change
one
thing
and
everybody's
saying,
but
now
they'll
come
down
my
street,
so
we
have
and
that's
when
all
these
seats
are
full
because
you
know
everybody
wants
to
keep
it.
It's
the
nimby
thing
right,
not
in
my
backyard,
but
we're
always
trying
to
find
the
right
solution.
So
all
right,
then
I
think,
if
all
the
questions
anybody
want
to
make
a
motion,
I
will.
E
D
C
C
B
Any
person
wishing
to
appeal
a
decision
of
the
traffic
commission
shall
file
a
written
appeal
and
pay
an
appeal
fee
with
the
city
clerk
department
within
14
calendar
days
of
the
decision.
The
matter
will
be
referred
to
the
city
council
at
the
earliest,
reasonable
and
available
date.
The
appeal
fee
will
be
refunded
only
if
the
city
council
overturns
the
traffic
commission's
decision.
An
appeal
form
is
available
from
the
recording
secretary.
Thank
you.
C
All
right,
so
anybody
out
there
listening,
please
if
you
don't
agree,
there's
a
process
in
place
all
right,
so
moving
on
to
10b,
where
we
have
our
monthly
status
school
safety
team,
bicycle
advisory
information.
I
have
jim
mashiko
giving
this
one
or
it's.
A
In
your
in
your
packet,
you
have
the
summary
notes
from
two
school
safety
team
meetings
that
were
conducted
one
at
ladera
and
one
at
lang.
Ranch
and
also
the
bicycle
advisory
team
met
in
december
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
you
have
them.
C
Yeah,
well,
I
could
tell
you
we
we
didn't
stand
in
the
rain.
We
kept
delaying
it.
It
took
a
while
to
to
have
the
meetings
at
a
couple
of
these
sites
because
of
the
weather,
but
you
know,
I
think
the
schools
were
happy
that
we
showed
up
and
we
gave
them
some
good
input
and,
as
is
typical,
a
lot
of
times
problems.
C
You
know
if
you,
if
you
review
all
your
options,
the
solution
presents
itself
and
and
we're
in
a
holding
pattern
that
they
take
our
suggestions
and
implement
a
few
things
that
they
were
willing
to
do
and
then
we'll
probably
be
back
there
at
some
future
dates.
So
that
was
pretty
much
it.
I
I
had
a
question
about
the
the
bat-
and
I
noticed
in
here
that
we
have
a
pilot
program
going
on
at
clu.
For
the
bird
electric
was
wearing
a
scooter.
A
So
when
the
the
bat
met
in
december,
the
pilot
program
was
being
considered
by
bird
and
clu
in
the
city,
and
we
had
an
interim
agreement
with
bird
at
this
point.
Bird
has
completely
had
is
not
moving
forward
with
launching
a
program
in
the
city,
so
what
was
in
december
is
not
happening
anymore.
C
Which
is
probably
appropriate
in
respect
of
the
light
foot
traffic
that
we
have
everywhere,
at
least
we
won't
be
tripping
on
any
of
those
things
parked
in
you
know
obnoxious
places
so
yeah.
I
was
just
curious
about
that,
because
I
have
gone
to
other
communities
and
you
know
what
my
experience.
If
it
doesn't
fit
the
community,
you
see
them
laying
there
for
a
little
while
and
then
they
all
disappear
because
it
either
the
utilization
either
has
to
be
there
or
the
you
know.
Financially,
it's
it's
just
a
big
money
drain.
C
So
I
guess
I'm
glad
that
figured
itself
out
all
right.
Then
we
are
in
one
second
here
status.
Report:
traffic,
commission
recommendations:
we
have
none
any
commission
referrals.
Let
me
see
here:
no,
we
have
none
work
pro
program,
commission
schedule,
anybody
any
of
the
commissioners
have
any
questions
about
future
areas
or
intersections
or
anything.
That's
come
up
that
they'd
like
to
throw
at
staff
at
this
point:
okay,
wow!