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A
I
want
to
thank
staff
too
for
all
their
work
in
the
city,
and
we
know
it's
been
a
tough
time
through
covet,
but
we
really
appreciate
everything
that
all
employees
have
been
doing
to
to
keep
us
all
safe,
healthy
and
happy
clerks.
Can
we
have
the
roll
call?
Please.
E
F
A
I
recognize
councillor
carr
just
stepped
in,
so
marker
is
present
too,
as
well
thanks.
So
this
special
council
meeting
has
been
called
in
accordance
with
section
14.5
of
the
procedure
bylaw.
The
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
to
provide
council
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
speakers
on
public
safety
and
violent
crime
city-wide,
as
directed
by
council
through
the
motion
prioritizing
public
safety,
which
was
considered
by
council
last
month.
Council
will
first
hear
from
staff
followed
by
registered
speakers.
A
Did
I
get
it
right?
You
get
the
wrong
one
did
I
say,
merch,
sorry,
I'm
already
off
to
a
bad
start.
Tuesday
may
10th
thanks
very
much,
which
is
we
can
decide
later
on
if
it's
at
three
or
six
at
all
council
were
present
when
the
members
motions
prioritizing
public
safety
was
first
introduced
at
the
council
meeting
on
march
29th
and
no
member
has
declared
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
item.
A
No
decision,
of
course,
is
required
from
council
tonight.
We're
listening
and
asking
questions,
ideas
and
input
from
tonight's
meeting
will
assist
staff
in
creating
a
report
back
with
recommendations
which
is
anticipated
to
be
presented
to
council
in
june
of
2022..
A
I
got
that
date
right.
Okay,
the
public
can
follow
along
on
twitter
at
pan
city
clerk
for
updates
on
the
progress
of
the
meeting.
Members
of
pub
of
the
public
may
also
send
comments
to
council
by
using
the
online
web
form
listed
on
the
meeting
agenda.
A
We
have
a
full
agenda
today,
council,
so
we've
been
working
with
the
clerks
and
staff
to
figure
the
best
way
to
to
work
our
way
through
this
maximizing
information,
but
making
sure
we
we
proceed
in
best
way
possible.
A
So
what
was
thinking
is
that
we
have
four
staff
presentations
and
we
thought
maybe
we
could
go
through
all
four
presentations
and
then
have
one
round
of
counsel
questions
for
those
presentations
there's
and
then
we
could
proceed
right
to
the
hearing
from
the
public
because
there
are
dozens
of
folks
that
are
that
are
signed
up
ready
to
go.
So
that's
a
suggestion,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
going
to
proceed
with,
but
I
can
take
advice
as
we
move
along.
A
So
council
is
also
welcome
to
send
any
questions
for
staff
to
the
deputy
city
manager,
karen
levitt,
via
email
after
the
meeting.
So
so
again,
they'll
be
reproducing
a
report
in
june.
So
if
you
have
questions
that
come
to
you
over
the
tonight
or
any
subsequent
nights
or
even
after
the
speakers
are
closed,
please
send
them
along
to
deputy
the
deputy
city
manager.
A
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
just
a
reminder
too,
about
just
not
to
use
gendered
honorifics
as
we're
going
through
asking
questions
to
staff
or
or
for
the
public
and
just
using
full
name
or
title
is
great,
so
we're
turning
over
to
the
deputy
city
manager.
Here
to
begin,
the
presentation.
H
Thank
you
mayor
stewart,
I'm
karen
levitt,
deputy
city
manager
here
at
the
city
of
vancouver
tonight,
as
the
mayor
has
shared
with
us,
we're
here
to
take
part
in
a
forum
for
council
to
hear
from
residents
businesses
community
delegations
to
understand
concerns
related
to
public
safety
and
violent
crime.
This
is
arising
out
of
a
council
resolution
that
was
passed
on
march
30th.
H
Anyway,
I'll
keep
going
while
the
clerk's
figuring
that
out,
we
have
a
number
of
city
staff
here
in
person
and
on
webex
to,
of
course,
listen
to
what
we're
going
to
hear
tonight
and
also
to
respond
to
questions
from
council
I'll
just
introduce
briefly
the
the
four
speakers
we
have
five
speakers
actually
and
that
we
have
sandra
singh.
H
The
general
manager
of
arts,
culture
and
community
services,
followed
by
margaret
witkins
from
our
engineering,
deputy
general
manager
of
engineering
services,
chief
palmer
from
the
vancouver
police
department
and
then
amit,
ganda
ganda
and
betty
leps,
our
director
of
parks
and
director
of
urban
relationships
for
the
board
of
parks
and
recreation
respectively.
So
you're
going
to
hear
from
these
four
staff
collectively,
I
think
it
should
take
a
lit.
That's
perfect!
That's
the
right
slide!
H
Now
they
should
take
about
a
half
hour
collectively
and,
as
the
mayor
said
them
and
all
other
staff
on
the
line
will
be
available
to
answer
questions
from
council
following
the
presentations.
H
There
we
go.
Thank
you
so
in
terms
of
who
is
speaking
tonight
to
council
from
the
public.
The
council
resolution
instructed
staff
to
have
the
following
departments
from
from
the
city
speak,
you
can
see
them
listed
there
on
the
left
of
the
screen.
H
I
don't
believe
we
have
representations
representatives
from
these
departments
from
these
agencies
speaking
tonight,
but
we
do
have
a
number
that
are
here
listening
to
the
proceedings.
We
also
extended
invitations
to
over
50
business
and
community
organizations,
including,
but
not
limited
to
business,
improvement
areas,
community,
policing,
centers
and
various
other
non-profit
agencies
that
are
relevant
in
this
space.
H
I'm
gonna
go
there.
We
go
so
in
terms
of
what's
gonna
happen.
After
this
meeting
council,
we
will
work.
H
City
staff
will
work
with
vpd
to
report
back
on
an
action
plan
by
june,
based
on
what
we
hear
tonight,
and
that
will
be
a
set
of
recommendations
to
concerning
public
safety
and
and
violent
crime
and
at
a
later
date,
we'll
also
scope
the
feasibility
of
a
community
safety
and
well-being
strategy,
the
intent
of
that
to
be
to
understand
and
address
the
roots
and
causes
of
inequity
and
to
ensure
all
residents
have
access
to
everything
they
need
to
support
their
safety
and
well-being.
H
A
Perhaps
a
deputy
manager,
I
can
just
get
you
to
advance
the
speakers
as
they
go,
and
so
you
can
queue
them
up
and
introduce
them
thanks.
D
Okay,
good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
to
present
the
work
underway
in
accs
to
support
community
well-being
and
safety.
For
all,
as
council
knows,
the
work
we
do
in
accs,
all
of
the
work
we
do
in
accs
is
focused
on
achieving
the
outcomes
of
community
well-being,
whether
it's
the
direct
services
we
provide
through
our
social
operations,
the
in-kind
and
direct
support
and
partnership.
D
We
provide
to
the
arts
and
culture
and
social
services
sectors
the
policy
work
we
do
in
partnership
with
community
and
city
departments
and
the
spaces
we
create
and
provide
across
the
city
through
our
leases.
All
work
in
accs
is
accomplished
through
partnerships
and
in
relationship
with
others,
and
we
rely
on
these
partnerships
to
ensure
the
work
has
meaningful
impact
for
tonight.
I
will
focus
my
presentation
on
the
work
of
two
accs
departments:
social
policy
and
projects
and
housing
and
homelessness
services.
D
As
council
knows,
vancouver
is
at
the
intersection
and
epicenter
of
several
global
crises
that
create
intense
challenges
for
our
community
locally,
as
well
as
in
our
region,
province
and
country,
the
mental
health
crisis,
overdose
crisis
and
the
housing
crisis.
There
are
many
social
and
political
determinants
of
mental
health
and
addictions,
including
poverty,
homelessness,
unemployment,
social
isolation,
stigma,
criminalization
of
substance,
use,
systemic
racism
and
colonization.
D
These
factors
intersect
and
where
and
were
further
exacerbated
by
covet
19
placing
people
who
are
impacted
by
multiple
factors
at
greater
risk
for
mental
health
and
addictions
issues.
It's
important
to
remember
also
that
one
in
five
of
us
will
struggle
with
mental
health
in
our
lifetime
and
the
world
health
organization
notes
a
25
increase
in
depression
and
anxiety
due
to
the
covet
pandemic,
impacting
youth
and
women
in
particular,
and
of
course
there
is
also
a
global
housing
crisis
and
the
last
time
a
global
survey
was
attempted
by
the
united
nations.
D
In
2005,
an
estimated
100
million
people
were
homeless
worldwide
and
as
many
as
1.6
billion
people
lacked
adequate
housing
that
was
15
years
ago.
Imagine
the
numbers
now
so,
as
you
can
see
with
these
headlines,
these
intersecting
crises
facing
us
here
in
vancouver
are
reflections
of
larger
global
trends.
D
Before
I
speak
about
our
work
in
accs,
I
want
to
spend
a
moment
to
reinforce
the
importance
of
addressing
the
ongoing
overdose
crisis,
of
which
we
are
now
in
the
sixth
year.
As
council
knows,
the
crisis
is
driven
by
a
toxic,
unpredictable
and
unregulated
drug
supply.
While
there
are
many
regional
variations
in
the
drivers
of
the
crisis,
structural
violence,
prohibitions
against
illicit
drug
use
and
stigma
consistently
play
a
central
role.
Criminalization
of
people
who
use
illicit
drugs
leads
to
incarceration
marginalization,
as
well
as
to
further
isolation
and
violence,
entrenched
poverty
and
a
cycle
of
trauma.
D
During
the
first
year
of
the
pandemic,
there
was
a
95
percent
increase
in
apparent
over
opioid
toxicity
deaths
across
canada
april
2020
to
march
2021
saw
7
224
deaths
compared
to
the
year
before,
which
saw
3
700
already
too
high
in
2021
527
people
died
of
overdoses
in
vancouver
alone,
527
this
added
to
the
419
in
2020
and
added
to
the
hundreds
more
in
previous
years,
with
council's
direction.
Just
over
a
year
ago
now
the
city
submitted
a
section
56
exemption
to
the
federal
government
to
decriminalize
poverty
to
decriminalize,
simple
possession.
D
This
is
a
key
first
step
in
turning
the
tide
on
the
overdose
crisis
contributing
to
community
safety.
We
also
participated
in
the
province's
work
on
their
section,
56
exempt
exemption
submission,
and
we
are
collectively
awaiting
a
response
from
the
federal
government
to
these
submissions
and
every
week,
every
week
more
people
are
dying.
D
Population
health,
research,
along
with
decades
of
evidence-based
city
policy
and
program,
investments,
recognized
that
community
safety
and
well-being
is
improved
by
addressing
the
broad
social
determinants
of
health,
essential
to
community
well-being
for
everyone.
Essentially,
it
is
the
approach
of
achieving
community
safety
for
all
through
social
development.
D
The
social
determinants
of
health
are
the
non-medical
factors
that
influence
health
outcomes.
They
are
the
conditions
in
which
people
are
born,
grow,
work,
live
and
age,
and
the
wider
set
of
forces
and
systems
shaping
the
conditions
of
daily
life.
These
forces
and
systems
include
economic
policies
and
systems,
development
agendas,
social
norms,
social
policies
and
political
systems.
D
You
may
notice
that
these
reflect
the
basic
necessities
of
life,
housing,
food
income
and
education,
as
well
as
health
and
well-being.
This
framework
highlights
that
safety
is
part
of
public
health
and
can
be
addressed
in
a
similar
manner.
An
example
to
consider
is
how
economic
inequality
in
a
community
might
lead
to
greater
likelihood
of
theft.
How
lack
of
adequate
access
to
indoor
daytime
space
or
lack
of
meaningful
daytime
occupation
may
increase
likelihood
of
street
disorder
during
the
day?
D
An
equity
approach
based
on
social
determinants
of
health,
which
is
reinforced
through
the
healthy
city
strategy
and
the
city's
equity
framework,
recognizes
that
investment
in
improving
the
circumstances
of
those
most
excluded,
most
marginalized
and
at
risk
benefits
both
these
individuals
and
the
whole
community.
In
short,
we
all
do
better
when
we're
all
doing
better.
As
I
noted
in
my
opening
remarks,
accs
works
in
all
the
realms
of
these
health
determinants
in
proactive
ways
that
determine
and
promote
public
safety.
D
On
this
slide,
you'll
see
a
number
of
various
initiatives,
policies,
strategies
and
programs
currently
in
place
or
in
development
at
the
city
that
build
community
safety
by
addressing
root
causes
and
social
determinants,
and
I'll
highlight
some
of
these
key
initiatives
in
the
following
slides,
but
first
as
council
knows
as
communities
work
on
social
determinants
of
health
and
try
to
address
the
root
causes
and
upstream
drivers
that
impact
safety.
It's
important
to
note
that
multi-sector
partnerships,
multi-level
leadership,
investment
and
partnership
is
critical.
D
As
municipalities,
we
are
limited
in
what
we
can
actually
do,
both
by
jurisdiction
and
funding
mechanisms.
We
can
work
on
providing
and
activating
engaging
public
spaces,
providing
community
services
supporting
arts
and
culture,
to
name
a
few.
However,
the
policy
and
structural
drivers
of
the
many
social
issues
that
are
challenging
our
community
today,
such
as
poverty,
homelessness,
mental
health,
are
within
the
purview
and
responsibility
of
senior
governments,
mental
health
and
health
services,
housing
and
homelessness
responses,
income
and
poverty
reduction,
accessible
and
inclusive
education,
accessible
child
care.
D
These
are
all
the
responsibility
of
senior
government
who
hold
both
the
pen
and
the
funding
decisions
and
capacity
to
make
the
upstream
differences
at
the
city.
We
work
to
develop
social
policy
and
strategies
that
both
identify
what
we
can
do
within
our
jurisdiction
and
means
and
recommend
actions
for
senior
government.
D
D
One
of
our
key
functions
in
accs
is
to
respond
to
the
acute
needs
of
people
experiencing
homelessness,
especially
those
who
are
most
at
risk
and
living
in
unsheltered
in
alleys,
sidewalks
under
overpasses
and
in
our
city
parks.
We
do
this
outreach
work
through
our
homelessness
services.
Outreach
team,
which
is
co-funded
by
bc,
housing
in
the
city
and
through
the
provision
of
emergency
homeless,
shelters
also
offered
in
partnership
with
the
province
and
by
providing
warming
centers
during
periods
of
extreme
cold.
D
Our
work
across
the
city
on
implementing
shelter,
supportive
housing
and
other
social
services
has
highlighted
that
many
community
members
who
do
not
work
in
the
sector
or
do
not
have
experiences
of
homelessness
themselves,
often
have
deep
concerns
or
fears
of
these
neighbors.
It's
important
to
note
that
people
experiencing
homelessness
are
not
homogeneous.
Group
homelessness
can
happen
to
seniors
youth,
single-parent
families,
women
fleeing
violence
and
others
struggling
with
poverty
and
lack
of
affordable
housing
in
an
extremely
in
an
increasingly
expensive
city.
D
In
fact,
research
has
demonstrated
that
unhoused
or
precariously
housed
individuals
are
more
likely
to
be
targets
of
violent
crime
and
assault.
A
15-year
study
conducted
in
denmark,
published
in
2020,
found
that
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
are
seven
times
more
likely
in
females
and
four
times
more
likely
males
to
be
the
victim
of
a
violent
crime
compared
to
the
general
population,
and
a
study
of
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
conducted
here
in
canada
found
that
72
percent
of
respondents
had
been
victims
of
crime
within
the
previous
year.
D
Compare
this
to
the
2019
stats
can
data
that
one
in
five
canadians
or
20,
canadians
or
their
households
were
impacted
by
one
of
the
eight
crimes
measured
by
the
gss,
while
the
impacts
of
homeless
of
unsheltered
homelessness
are
most
acutely
centered
on
the
individuals
experiencing
it.
There
are
also
impacts
on
other
members
of
the
community
as
residents
with
no
homes
or
access
to
day
spaces
congregate
or
sleep
in
public
realm
or
on
public
property
such
as
sidewalks,
alcoves
and
parks.
D
2022.
Access
to
housing
is
one
of
the
most
fun
is
the
most
fundamental
basic
need
and
a
human
right.
Without
housing,
it
is
virtually
impossible
to
lead
a
physically
and
psychologically
healthy
life.
The
impacts
of
persistent
and
cyclical
homelessness
are
profound,
which
is
why
we
take
a
housing
first
approach
to
social
determinants.
D
We
do
not
wait
for
people
to
have
addressed
other
issues
before
we
try
to
bring
them
indoors,
either
directly
into
housing
if
it's
available
or
through
emergency
shelters
until
housing
is
secured,
the
city
partners
with
senior
levels
of
government,
non-profit
housing
providers
and
service
groups
to
both
protect
and
improve
sros
and
low-income
housing.
We
also
provide
land
to
support
the
creation
of
new
social
and
supportive
housing
city-wide.
D
By
providing
housing
with
embedded
supports
residents
most
need
most
in
need,
gain
access
to
tools
and
services
that
enable
them
to
meet
their
basic
health
needs
and
gain
access
to
additional
opportunities
to
thrive
in
the
community
through
community-based
activities
like
gardening
programs
and
access
to
arts
and
culture.
Research
in
2018
to
2019,
on
the
outcomes
of
for
tenants.
Six
months
after
moving
into
the
city's
temporary
modular
supportive
housing
program
that
was
again
implemented
in
partnership
with
bc.
Housing
found
that
80
reported
that
their
overall
well-being
was
improved
and
95
90
felt
safe
in
their
unit.
D
I'll
now
speak
to
some
of
our
work
on
anti-racism
and
cultural
redress,
as
we
all
know,
and
have
long
recognized
over
the
recent
couple
of
years.
Systemic
racism
threatens
our
ability
to
create
a
safe
community
for
everyone
in
vancouver
across
canada.
Race,
ethnicity
is
the
largest
motivation
for
hate
crime
and
there
were
significant
increases
in
anti-black
and
anti-asian.
D
Police
reported
hate
crime
in
2020.
across
metro
vancouver.
There
were
378
police
reported
hate
crimes
in
2020
a
significant
increase
over
previous
years.
The
region's
rate
of
13.8
hate
crimes
per
100,
100
000
residents
was
higher
than
the
national
average
and
higher
than
most
large
metropolitan
areas
in
canada.
The
vpd
who
you'll
hear
late
from
later
tonight,
has
also
noted
the
significant
increase
in
hate
crimes,
with
incidents
doubling
from
2019
to
2020
and
anti-asian
hate
crimes,
incidents
increasing
by
over
700
percent.
D
In
addition
to
implementing
the
internally
focused
equity
framework,
which
was
approved
by
council
in
2021,
this
accs
is
working
on
implementing
the
access
to
city
services
without
fear
policy.
The
guidelines
are
in
development
and
they'll
be
implemented
across
all
city
business
units
and
as
well.
Staff
and
accs
are
working
with
community
to
address
racism
and
its
impact
on
racialized
communities,
focusing
particularly
on
anti-black
racism,
anti-indigenous
and
anti-asian
racism.
D
As
part
of
council's
motions
to
examine
ways
to
decriminalize
poverty,
staff
have
been
undertaking
three
pieces
of
work.
The
first
is
to
work
with
community
to
examine
existing
reports
with
recommendations
and
ensure
that
recommendations
that
are
brought
to
council
are
relevant
across
the
city
and
then
to
prioritize
these.
This
report
will
be
coming
to
council
in
july
of
this
year.
In
addition,
the
community
indicated
several
issues
that
they
could
agree
upon
to
address
immediately.
D
D
Examining
alternatives
to
9-1-1
when
calls
for
mental
health,
substance
use
and
sexual
assault
calls
are
made,
came
up
as
another
key
issue
that
community
wanted
to
move
on
immediately.
Staff
has
started
working
with
various
departments
within
the
bc,
government
and
community
organizations
to
look
at
alternatives
to
9-1-1
as
we're
not
sure
what
actually
can
be
done
yet.
D
D
The
third
area
of
investment
is
the
local
work
to
explore
restorative
justice
approaches
in
vancouver.
Restorative
cities
aims
at
disseminating
restorative
values,
such
as
inclusion,
participation,
respect
responsibility,
solidarity,
truth
seeking
in
different
settings
where
conflict
may
occur,
such
as
family
schools,
neighborhoods
sports
organizations,
workplaces,
intercultural
communities
and
others.
The
final
goal
is
to
strengthen
relationships,
encourage
active
citizenship
and
look
at
conflict
as
an
opportunity
for
change,
rather
than
as
a
threat.
150
000
in
funding
is
going
towards
supporting
a
vancouver-based
community
coalition
to
undertake
this
work
in
vancouver.
D
D
Ensuring
that
there
are
opportunities
for
all
to
benefit
from
the
economy
is
necessary
to
building
safety,
creating
jobs
and
opportunities
for
small
indigenous
black
people
of
color.
Businesses
is
part
of
our
community
benefits
agreement
strategy
policy,
as
is
new
entry
level.
Jobs
for
people
living
in
neighborhoods
with
high
poverty
rates.
Providing
free
transit
for
six
months
to
people
impacted
by
poverty,
showed
how
necessary
accessible
transit.
D
How
necessary
accessible
transit
is
for
people
to
access
basic
needs
in
their
lives,
and
the
informal
economy
is
instrumental
in
ensuring
those
who
are
struggling
have
a
legitimate
way
to
earn
income,
reducing
crime
and
other
issues.
The
city's
work
with
community
to
provide
places
for
informal
vending
is
a
key
part
of
the
survival
economy,
as
council
and
operating
partner
partners
are
aware.
Regular
and
ongoing
engagement
with
vpd
is
a
key
part
of
providing
these
spaces.
D
D
Further
the
murdered
missing
indigenous
women,
girls
and
two-spirit
project
in
the
city
is
examining
how
the
city
is
implementing
the
recommendations
from
the
calls
for
justice
and
the
red
women
rising
reports.
While
doing
this
analysis,
the
team
has
supported
several
actions,
while
planning
with
council
support,
including
supporting
the
missing
and
murdered
indigenous
women
and
girls
day
of
remembrance
at
city
hall
in
2021
and
the
day
of
action
at
the
art
gallery.
The
city
has
also
funded
moccasin
mafia,
a
grassroots
group
of
women
who
feed
support
and
assist
indigenous
women
living
in
the
downtown
east
side.
D
On
this
slide,
you
see
a
list
of
some
further
key
initiatives,
policies
or
activities
that
are
currently
underway
to
align,
addressing
some
of
the
basic
needs
of
some
of
our
most
at-risk
communities
again
from
the
perspective
of
achieving
community
safety
through
social
development
staff,
seek
to
implement
evidence-based
initiatives
and
seek
to
employ
people
with
lived
experience
to
provide
accessible
and
high
impact
programming.
That
also
then
addresses
income
security
for
low-income
residents,
who
often
have
barriers
to
employment.
D
One
our
one
recent
urban
health
and
safety
program
example
is
our
washroom
trailer
program,
funded
initially
by
the
federal
government
through
their
reaching
home
program.
The
washroom
trailer
program
was
initiated
during
covid
to
address
key
gaps
and
access
to
water
and
washrooms.
It
also
highlighted
key
gaps
in
the
these
basic
human
needs
already
existing
previous
to
covid.
The
program
staffed
by
npo
peers
and
frontline
staff
has
had
multiplier
impacts
on
people's
mental
health
and
wellness,
connecting
them
with
housing,
health
and
employment
options
and
providing
critical
life
safety
during
the
ongoing
overdose
crisis.
D
So
these
were
just
a
few
of
the
highlights
of
the
diverse
work
underway
in
accs
focused
on
the
core
social
determinants
of
health,
as
the
city
and
partners
move
forward
to
continue
to
work
together
to
address
community
safety,
it
remains
important
to
recognize
that
the
that
the
approach
that
has
the
long-term
intergenerational
and
sustained
impacts
is
that
of
building
community
safety
by
addressing
broad
social
determinants
of
health,
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
municipalities
cannot
do
this
work
to
support
community
well-being
and
safety
alone.
We
require
strong
collaboration
across
many
sectors
with
residents.
D
A
Mr
kirby
young,
I
see
you
on
thecube,
but
maybe
you
missed
this
before
you
came
in,
we
were
going
to
see
the
presentations.
Sorry,
sorry.
I
H
Thanks
mayor
next
up,
we
have
mark
margaret
with
kim's
deputy
general
manager
of
our
engineering
services
department.
B
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
thank
you
for
having
us
speak
this
evening,
margaret
witkins
with
engineering
services
here
this
evening
with
my
colleague,
taryn
scollard,
we're
here
on
behalf
of
lon
leclaire,
the
gm
for
engineering
services,
who
is
out
of
town
and
regrets
that
he
can't
make
it
this
evening.
There
are
a
number
of
other
engineering
staff
who
are
also
here
to
listen
and
to
respond
to
questions
as
needed.
B
So
within
engineering
there
are
a
range
of
programs
designed
to
main
maintain
cleanliness
in
the
public
ground
realm,
all
of
which
focus
on
prioritizing
the
protection
of
public
health
and
safety,
as
well
as
the
environment.
Some
of
the
core
services
include
street
cleaning,
litter
pickup
and
abandoned
waste
collection.
B
B
B
There
were
seven
kilometers,
seven
square
kilometers
of
micro
cleaning
and
28
plazas.
There
was
the
provision
of
over
65
000
low
threshold
employment
hours,
collection
of
30,
000
bags
of
litter
and
a
hundred
over
a
hundred
thousand
needles,
as
well
as
removal
of
thirteen
thousand
feces
in
the
downtown
area.
So
in
recent
budgets,
council
has
approved
new
investment
for
this
area
and
those
results
are
reflective
of
that
investment,
672
000
for
enhanced
cleaning
for
priority
areas
and
needle
cleanup,
as
well
as
100
000
for
the
feces
removal
response
pilot.
B
B
Our
work
on
public
space
stewardship
is
guided
by
the
equity
principles
that
sandra
singh
touched
on
earlier.
People
will
experience
public
spaces
differently,
based
on
gender,
race,
socioeconomic
status
and
many
other
factors.
We
work
with
community
partners
to
develop
an
approach
to
the
management
of
public
gathering
spaces,
to
keep
them
clean
and
well
cared
for
as
needed.
We
expand
services
to
include
peer-based
stewardship
programs,
additional
microcleaning
and
in
case
some
cases,
community
advisory
committees.
B
B
Additionally,
the
next
four-year
capital
plan
is
being
developed
right
now,
and
so
opportunities
for
additional
lighting,
such
as
in
plazas,
is
dependent
on
this
plan.
The
draft
plan,
which
is
out
for
consultation,
includes
some
investment
in
plazas,
as
well
as
electrical
that
would
support
lighting.
B
We've
also
heard
the
desire
for
increased
microcleaning
and
so
in
terms
of
service.
Today,
several
high
demand
areas
such
as
gastown
chinatown
and
the
downtown
eastside
currently
receive
daily
service
increases
in
service
levels,
would
require
additional
funding
and
would
need
to
consider
the
capacity
of
the
agencies
that
currently
provide
that
micro
cleaning
service.
B
We
also
hear
around
the
importance
of
bringing
people
and
animating
the
downtown,
and
the
city
plays
an
important
role
in
enabling
special
events
and
festivals
that
enliven
our
streets
and
public
spaces.
We
are
interested
to
continue
working
with
bias
and
other
event
organizers
to
support
their
vision
and
to
continue
to
expand
the
positive
uses
of
public
space.
B
We've
also
heard
the
desire
for
more
investment
in
enhanced
public
realm
and
city
infrastructure
maintenance,
as
well
as
additional
graffiti
measures.
In
these
cases,
additional
budget
would
be
required
to
alter
the
current
service
levels.
It
is
worth
highlighting
that
council
has
recently
approved
an
additional
500
000
in
funding
for
additional
graffiti
removal
and
beautification.
B
J
Good
evening,
council,
it's
a
pleasure
to
join
here
this
evening.
Thank
you
so
much
for
hearing
us
and
the
comments
made
my
my
peers
earlier
were
really
good
comments
and
agree
with
many
things
that
were
said.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we're
having
discussion
we're
all
working
together
for
the
community
safety
and
well-being
of
our
community,
which
is
a
very
important
discussion.
J
I
just
want
to
say
it's
been
a
very
hectic
24
hours
in
vancouver
after
the
situation
we
had
at
fifth
and
commercial
last
night
where
gunfire
erupted
on
our
streets,
and
I
appreciate
some
members
of
council
who
reached
out
and
expressed
their
support
for
our
officers
under
these
trying
circumstances.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I'm
joined
today
by
deputy
chief
howard
chao
who's
in
charge
of
our
operations
division.
J
All
the
uniform
officers
in
the
police
department
and
deputy
chief
fiona
wilson
who's
in
charge
of
all
the
detectives
and
investigators
and
oversees
all
major
criminal
investigations
here
in
the
city
of
vancouver.
We
do
have
an
amazing
city.
Vancouver
is
a
world-class
city,
one
of
the
best
cities
in
the
world
to
live
in
and
having
these
discussions
are
so
important,
and
it
really
is
a
joint
responsibility
amongst
all
of
us
to
make
sure
that
we
have
proper
public
safety
mechanisms
in
place.
J
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
about
a
number
of
different
things
this
evening.
I'll
show
you
probably
about
half
a
dozen
slides.
This
is
the
agenda
of
things.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
and
I'll
move
on
to
the
first
one:
it's
not
advancing
here
clerk.
I
don't
know
if
you're
able
to
help
with
that
I'll,
just
keep
talking
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
violent
crime
is
the
first
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
and
we
have
talked
a
lot
about
crime.
J
There's
been
a
lot
of
stories
in
the
media
about
violent
crime,
property
crimes.
It
up.
Is
it
down
I'm
going
to
give
you
the
messaging
on
that
it's
consistent
messaging.
What
we've
said
the
whole
time
and
I've
heard
a
lot
of
armchair
quarterbacks
talking
in
the
media,
trying
to
give
their
interpretation.
J
Nobody
knows
our
data
better
than
we
do
and
I'll
tell
you
what
the
facts
are
what's
happening
here
in
vancouver,
so
with
violent
crime,
which
is
the
most
concerning
to
us,
because
we're
talking
about
invasion
of
people's
space
physically
assaulting
people
attacking
people
robbing
people
things
like
that.
Violent
crime
is
more.
Concerning
than
property
crime,
full
stop
in
2021
the
last
full
year
of
data
when
we
compare
it
to
pre-pandemic
it's
up,
7.1
the
violent
csi,
which
is
the
crime
severity
index.
That's
a
weighted
measure.
The
statistics
canada
uses
where
it
weights
violent
crime.
J
So,
for
example,
a
homicide
would
be
weighted
much
more
heavily
than
an
assault.
If
we're
talking
about
property
crime,
a
break
into
your
house
would
be
weighted
much
more
heavily
than
a
shoplifting
for
violent
csi
we're
the
fourth
highest
in
canada,
when
looking
at
the
15
largest
cities
outside
of
british
columbia-
and
we
were
lucky
when
we
go
from
2020
compared
to
2019,
which
is
the
last
full
year
of
data,
the
2021
numbers
will
be
out
in
july,
we're
up
4.2
percent
and
we're
7.8
above
the
canadian
average.
J
We
have
seen
a
big
issue
with
strange
results
over
four
per
day,
which
is
an
increase
over
historical
levels
where
we're
seeing
people
randomly
attacked
with
no
prior
interaction
and
they
get
assaulted
in
our
streets.
Sometimes
very
horrific
assaults
you've
seen
a
lot
of
the
footage
in
the
media
and
a
lot
of
stories
on
it.
It
is
an
issue
that
we're
concerned
about.
We
have
had
good
success
in
arresting
people
and
bringing
people
to
justice,
but
there's
a
whole
host
of
issues
that
go
into
that
when
we're
talking
about
hate
crime.
J
J
One
of
the
most
concerning
numbers
that
we're
seeing
in
violent
crime
is
what
we
call
level
2
and
level
3
assaults,
so
those
are
assaults
with
a
weapon
assault,
causing
bodily
harm
or
aggravated
assaults
we
get
about
1826
of
those
per
year
in
vancouver.
These
are
the
most
serious
types
of
assaults
we've
seen
a
28.5
percent
increase
in
those
types
of
serious
assaults
in
vancouver
over
the
past
year.
J
We're
also
seeing
an
increase
on
assaults
on
police
officers,
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
spitting
incidents,
which
I
think
is
showing
a
lack
of
common
decency
and
civility
with
297
spitting
incidents
happening
last
year.
72
of
those
were
complete
strangers
spitting
on
other
people,
with
no
provocation
whatsoever
prior
to
the
incident.
J
J
J
Some
of
the
property
crime
categories
are
up
some
of
the
ones
that
are
very
concerning
to
people
and
when
we
talk
to
the
community,
like
all
of
you,
do,
and
we
hear
from
people
from
all
different
neighborhoods
across
the
city
graffiti
is
up
across
the
city
and
that
general
sense,
some
feeling
of
disorder
graffiti
in
some
neighborhoods,
like
chinatown,
is
up
significantly,
as
you
can
see
from
the
percentages
up
there.
296
percent,
but
the
under
reporting
of
crime
is
significant
in
our
city
and
the
general
feeling
of
being
unsafe
as
compared
to
the
crime.
J
A
Sorry,
sir,
just
we're
listening
to
the
chief
here
and-
and
I
just
asked
the
gallery
to
to
just
respectfully
listen
to
the
speaker
thanks
very
much.
J
J
We're
also
seeing
a
huge
increase
in
gloss
breaks
which
are
up
48
and
that's
an
interesting
one,
because
you
probably
saw
some
stories
in
the
media
as
well
with
the
gloss
companies,
so
independent
verification
when
they're
talking
to
the
gloss
companies
in
vancouver
where
they
can't
keep
up
with
all
the
glass
breakages
happening
in
vancouver.
People
are
smashing
panes
of
glass
worth
tens
of,
sometimes
over
ten
thousand
dollars
to
steal
an
item.
That's
worth
hundreds
of
dollars
and
for
insurance
claims
and
the
cost
of
those
business
owners
is
it's
not
sustainable.
J
For
people
to
stay
in
business
theft
from
autos
have
been
the
main
cause:
people
breaking
into
cars
for
crime
rate
to
come
down
in
the
property
crime
category.
We
saw
a
17
reduction
in
that
crime
category
alone
and
that
accounts
for
one
quarter
of
all
property
crimes.
So,
with
these
lower
level
crimes
we
do
see
it
drag
down
the
overall
property
crime
rate.
J
I
just
want
to
take
a
second
now
next
slide,
please
and
talk
about
under
reporting,
and
this
goes
to
what
I
talked
about
crime
statistics
versus
the
reality
of
how
people
feel
in
our
community
so
anywhere
in
canada.
You're,
going
to
see
roughly
statistics,
canada
will
tell
you
roughly
30
to
40
percent
of
under-reporting
non-reported
crime
in
canada.
About
70,
roughly
gets
reported.
Vancouver
traditionally
has
been
a
little
bit
higher
for
unreported
crime
people.
Sometimes
you
know,
get
frustrated
they're.
You
know
not
sure.
If
anything
can
be
done.
J
They
just
feel
like
it's
not
worth
it.
You
know
their
lawnmower
gets
stolen
whatever
it
is.
They
just
deal
with
it.
They
don't
bother
calling
the
police
but
some
significant
things
that
we're
seeing
developing
in
our
city-
and
I
have
to
draw
this
to
the
attention
of
council.
It
has
come
up
at
the
vancouver
police
board
meeting
and
is
of
significant
concern,
because
the
city
does
have
a
position
on
the
econ
board,
which
I
know
was
paul
mochry
and
I
believe
now.
J
That's
two:
that's
over
241
calls
every
single
day
241
times
a
day.
Citizens
in
the
city
are
calling
the
police
and
nobody's
answering.
If
you
want
to
see
the
crime
rate
go
to
zero,
then
we
just
don't
answer
the
phone
at
all
like
these
calls
have
to
be
answered.
Some
of
those
calls
for
sure
may
be
able
to
be.
You
know
redistributed
distributed
and
maybe
not
be
for
police
or
be
something
they
can
resolve
on
the
phone.
J
But
we
know
that
roughly
60
000
about
61
000
of
those
calls
are
ones
that
we
do
need
to
respond
to
and
do
need
to
attend
to,
and
there
are
also
calls
that
will
dramatically
impact
the
crime
rates
that
we're
seeing
in
our
city.
There
is
a
lot
of
work
being
undertaken
there
through
the
bc
association
of
chiefs
of
police.
Our
police
board
is
aware
of
it
the
bc
association
of
police
boards.
I
know
the
mayor
sitting
on
the
bc.
J
Urban
mayor's
caucus,
the
13
biggest
cities
in
bc
is
aware
of
it
as
well,
and
there
is
work
happening
there,
but
we're
seeing
some
of
the
smaller
suburban
agencies
actually
pulling
out
of
econ
because
of
a
lack
of
confidence
and
then
being
able
to
handle
the
non-emergency
calls.
And
the
irony
is
that
when
a
citizen
in
this
city
picks
up
the
phone
to
call
the
police,
they
think
they're
talking
to
vpd,
but
they're,
not
they're,
talking
to
a
third-party
service
provider
who's,
not
providing
the
service
that
we
expect
in
the
city
next
slide.
Please.
J
I
just
want
to
remind
council
that
sometimes
we
get
you
know
so
wrapped
up
in
this
world
of
talking
about
crime
rates
crimes
up
crimes
down.
You
know
this
percentage
that
percentage
this
number
that
number
here's
the
reality
check
of
all
the
other
things,
though,
that
police
deal
with
that
are
not
crimes
that
don't
show
up
in
crime
stats,
but
show
up
in
our
calls
for
service.
J
This
is
a
small
list
to
have
a
much
larger
list,
but
just
to
remind
you,
like
things
like
car
accidents,
missing
persons,
domestic
disputes,
provincial
statutes,
so
enforcing
you
know,
motor
vehicle
act,
liquor
act.
Things
like
that
do
not
come
into
crime
stats,
prowlers,
a
suspicious
person
crawling
around
your
house
late
at
night
disturbances
on
the
street.
All
these
types
of
things
are
not
crimes
and
they're
not
captured
in
crime
stats,
one
of
the
big
ones
I'll
point
out.
J
J
The
only
people
that
you're
really
disrupting
are
a
few
logging
trucks
in
the
rcmp
they're,
realizing
that
if
they
bring
that
fight
into
the
cities
into
the
urban
areas
of
our
country
and
they're,
telling
people
that,
on
cnw
and
in
the
mainstream
media
they're
talking
about
this
openly
how
they
want
to
disrupt
critical
infrastructure.
They
want
to
slow
down
the
canadian
economy,
they
want
to
overwhelm
the
police
and
the
jails
and
the
court
system.
J
They
want
to
shut
down
the
ports,
the
rail
lines,
major
intersection
and
bridges,
and
we're
seeing
that
we're
seeing
people
shutting
down
bridges
from
north
vancouver
into
vancouver
both
major
bridges,
bluing
themselves
to
the
to
the
highway
and
stopping
cars
in
the
middle
of
the
road
and
creating
a
major
backup
during
rush
hour
in
our
city.
These
are
very
labor-intensive
and
very
difficult
events
to
police
and
we're
dealing
with
them
every
single
day
in
our
city
and
it's
it's.
The
numbers
are
higher
this
year
in
2022
than
they
were
in
2021.
J
So
again,
hang
on
to
your
seats
because
we're
in
for
a
bit
of
a
ride
with
protests
here
in
vancouver
next
slide.
Please
I'm
almost
done
I'm
just
going
to
talk
about
a
few
things
that
we're
doing
with
our
response,
because
there's
a
lot
we're
doing
we're
not
just
sitting
here
complaining
about
it
or
talking
about
all
the
issues.
J
J
We
have
focused
policing
going
on
right
now,
a
major
project,
a
task
force
that
we've
undertaken
in
the
last
couple
of
months
is
task
force
agility,
where
we've
been
going
after
the
violent
shoplifters
we've
been
going
after
graffiti
people,
we've
been
going
after
people
that
are
committing
violence.
Through
this
project,
we've
already
had
146
arrests
for
assaults
for
thefts
for
weapon,
offenses
180
charges
against
people
that
are
causing
significant
disruption
in
our
city.
J
We've
also
put
out
additional
bicycle
patrols
and
foot
patrols
in
certain
neighborhoods
and
through
our
analytics,
which
are
very
advanced
in
the
vancouver
police
department.
Some
of
the
most
advanced
you'll
find
in
north
america,
putting
resources
in
the
right
places
in
the
city
at
the
right
time
of
day
to
deal
with
the
issues
that
we're
seeing
that
are
being
reported
to
us,
but
the
gap.
Of
course
I
mentioned
when
you've
got
88
000
calls
a
year
not
being
reported,
there's
a
gap
there
in
the
data,
because
people
can't
get
through
to
us.
J
We've
done
public
safety
awareness
fairs.
We've
had
great
uptake
from
the
public.
On
these.
We
did
one
recently
down
to
the
roundhouse
that
was
attended
by
1150
people.
That's
a
neighborhood,
that's
been
asking
for
assistance
from
police
and
for
public
safety
and
for
us
all
to
work
together.
A
lot
of
people
attended.
We
did
another
pop-up
safety,
tents
around
the
city.
First,
one
seventeen
hundred
people
attended
another
one.
J
Two
thousand
people
attended
really
good
turnout
by
people
to
see
those
events
and
we're
also
working
with
crown
council
on
chronic
offenders
and
other
issues
that
are
plaguing
our
city
right
now
and
I'll.
Just
move
to
the
final
slide,
please.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
that.
J
We're
doing,
and
that
really
works
is
partnerships,
and
we
have
incredible
partnerships
in
the
city
with
vancouver
coastal
health,
and
I
want
to
give
a
huge
shout
out
to
vancouver
coastal
health
and
our
board
has
done
an
incredible
job
through
project
link
working
with
coastal
health
and
coming
up
with
great
partnerships
and
systems
that
work
to
keep
people
out
of
crisis
and
keep
people
on
a
good
track
and
through
those
proactive
programs.
I
know
everybody
always
talks
about
car
87,
car
88.
That's
a
small
piece
of
it.
J
You
know
I'd
like
to
say,
like
you
know,
in
policing,
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
like
in
the
general
world
when
we're
talking
about
public
safety.
You've
got
a
crisis
here
and
in
this
world
crisis
will
always
continue.
There's
going
to
be
another
war,
there's
going
to
be
another
terrorist
attack,
there's
going
to
be
another
murder,
there's
going
to
be
another
heat
dome,
there's
going
to
be
another
sexual
assault.
Crisis
is
going
to
happen
in
our
communities.
J
People
will
die,
there
will
be
negative
things
that
will
happen
and
in
policing
we
have
to
work
left
of
crisis
and
we
have
to
work
right
of
crisis.
We
have
to
work
on
the
prevention
side,
we
have
to
protect
people
and
keep
people
safe
and
when
crisis
happens,
we
have
to
work
right
right
of
crisis
to
respond
to
recover
from
that
crisis
and
be
resilient,
and
we
have
to
be
competent
in
both
sides
of
that
and
we
are
but
it's
important
to
realize.
It's
not
one
or
the
other.
J
These
partnerships,
where
we're
seeing
the
reduction
in
calls
for
service
to
police
in
the
cohort
that
we're
helping
through
our
mental
health
partnerships
by
over
50
percent
and
in
hospital
visits
by
over
60
percent.
These
partnerships
work
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
defund,
the
police
movement,
because
that
now
we've
seen
that
does
not
work.
It
doesn't
work
in
vancouver,
it
doesn't
work
in
seattle
or
portland
or
san
francisco
or
other
places
that
have
tried
it.
J
It
grew
out
of
this
mistaken
belief
that
you
can
have
you
have
to
have
either
or
you
have
to
have
police
or
you
have
to
have
other
social
safety
net
supports.
You
have
to
have
both
it's
not
an
either
or
proposition.
You
need
to
be
strong
in
both
areas,
and
you
have
to
provide
proper
public
safety
to
the
people
of
this
city.
J
All
the
things
I
heard
about
keeping
the
streets
clean,
keeping
the
needles
off
the
street,
the
feces,
the
garbage,
keeping
our
sidewalks
clean.
All
these
sorts
of
things.
These
are
important
things
that
other
city
departments
are
doing
and
they're
doing
a
great
job
with
it.
We
had
the
review
recently
on
the
vpd.
The
vpd
has
been
reviewed
twice
already
through.
You
know,
independent
operational
reviews.
We
know
what
we
need.
We
know
our
business
and
we
know
what
kind
of
resources
we
need.
J
It's
now
being
reviewed
by
two
independent
consultants
from
the
province
of
british
columbia,
peter
lepin
and
peter
lockhee,
who
did
a
very
complex
two
very
comprehensive
reports.
Looking
at
how
efficient
vpd
is
being
run,
I'll
remind
you,
aside
from
the
fire
department,
no
other
department
in
the
city
has
ever
been
reviewed
like
that
the
province
made
that
decision.
It
was
the
right
decision
because
they
know
that
we
made
the
business
case.
J
The
police
department
is
to
be
properly
funded,
but
I
will
also
say
that
we
do
need
other
social
supports
and
we're
very
progressive
in
our
view
on
that
and
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
like
complex
care
like
supportive
housing,
we
support
that.
We
want
to
see
that
happen
in
our
community.
We've
been
talking
about
that
for
many
years.
We
want
to
see
core
and
essential
services
that
are
the
responsibility
the
city
of
vancouver,
focused
on
and
make
sure
that
you've
got
your
eye
on
the
ball
there.
J
We
want
to
see
more
partnerships
with
vancouver
coastal
health.
The
partnership
cars
were
great.
We've
got
leading
edge
strategies
here
in
vancouver
that
other
cities
in
north
america
are
envious
of.
We
want
to
see
people
get
more
help
for
mental
health
issues.
We've
been
talking
about
that
full
on.
Since
2008..
You
can
go
to
see
reports.
Many
reports
that
we've
written
that
are
online
dating
back
fiona
wilson,
who's
right
here
wrote
the
first
one
in
2008.
J
It
was
14
years
ago
where
we
were
talking
about
this.
Where
we
needed
more
supports,
we've
done
reports
on
progressive
drug
policy.
We
support
progressive
drug
policy,
we
don't
support
arresting
people
for
possession
of
drugs
and
throwing
them
in
jail,
and
thinking
that
that's
going
to
do
anything,
don't
support
that.
A
That
sorry,
there's
no
no
comments
from
the
gallery.
Please
we're
just
going
to
let
the
chief
finish,
but
if
you
are
a
registered
speaker,
you
will
have
time
later
to
address
counsel.
Please
continue
chief.
J
Thank
you,
I'm
just
going
to
wrap
up
there
and
just
say
that
we
do
pr.
We
do
definitely
support
progressive
social
policies
that
impact
public
safety.
We
want
to
work
with
you
and
work
together
and
have
a
strong
public
safety
strategy
for
the
city
involving
all
different
elements
of
the
city
of
vancouver
and
we're
proud
to
be
your
police
department.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
chief
palmer,
so
now
this
is
the
last
presentation
from
staff,
council
and
you're
going
to
hear
from
the
board
of
parks
and
recreation,
amit,
ganda
who's,
the
director
of
parks
and
betty
lept
who's,
the
director
of
urban
relationships
and
I'm
going
to
control
the
slides.
So
just
please,
let
me
know
when
you
want
me
to
advance.
F
H
You
want
to
introduce
yourself
emmett.
F
Yes,
it's
amit
ganda
here,
director
of
parks,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
my
video
feed
going,
but
it
seems
to
be
not
working
so.
F
My
camera
is
not
working
or
it's
not
picking
up
the
feed,
so
maybe
I'll
just
proceed
with
the
presentation
and
then
just
mention
next
slide
when
it's
time
to
move
the
slide.
Is
that
does
that
work
or
will
that
work.
F
So,
thank
you.
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
I'm
amit
ganda
and
my
pronouns.
Are
he
and
him
director
of
parks
and
I'm
joined
by
betty
laps
and
her
pronouns?
Are
she
and
her
director
of
urban
relationships
to
present
prioritizing
public
safety
next
slide?
Please,
council
will
recall
park
and
recreation's
van
play.
Priorities
for
of
inclusion
for
residents,
parks
and
recreation
are
gathering
places
for
all
people
of
all
ages,
abilities
and
backgrounds,
especially
highlighted
during
the
covet
pandemic.
F
They're,
a
tangible
reflection
of
the
quality
of
life
in
a
community
communities
are
safer
as
a
result
of
well-managed
parks
and
recreation
services
that
offer
healthy
activities
and
programming
for
all
people.
The
colonization
is
re,
reimagining,
public
spaces
and
their
use.
We
know
communities
are
safer
when
managed
next
slide,
please.
F
So
what
do
we
do?
There's
a
lot.
We
do
to
improve
safety
in
our
community.
We
are
an
urban
center.
We
face
urban
issues
and
these
issues
impact
our
communities.
So
what
can
we
do
to
improve?
Well,
if
we
continue
to
add
the
following,
we
know
that
safety
in
public
spaces
improves
when
parks
are
cleaned.
Graffiti-Free
spaces
are
used
positively
and
relationships
are
built
and
exist
on
the
ground.
F
Next
slide,
please,
in
places
throughout
the
city,
parks
and
recreation,
has
supported
community
events
and
programs
that
seek
to
connect
various
members
of
community
and
shared
creative
projects.
One
such
project
took
place
at
annie
livingston
park,
which
took
a
harm
reduction
through
the
arts
approach.
F
F
Participants
included
people
with
lived
experience
of
substance,
use
and
homelessness,
vulnerable
seniors
from
neighborhood,
low-income
housing,
rouston
school
families
and
folks
from
the
falls
creek
residents
association.
So
what
is
their
belief
here?
Parks
firmly
believes
that
if
we
activate
our
spaces,
we
are
better
positioned
in
relationship
building
and
not
reliant
on
an
enforcement.
F
What
started
out
as
requests
for
increasing
patrolling
and
control
in
parks
has
evolved
into
requests
for
more
artists
and
art
projects.
This
is
just
one
example
of
hundreds
next
slide.
Please,
team
urban
parks
or
team
up
is
an
interdisciplinary
and
interdepartmental
group
that
works
strategically
to
develop
innovative
solutions
for
complex
issues
in
urban
park
spaces,
with
a
focus
on
approximately
20
parks,
priority
parks
in
cities,
urban
in
the
city's
urban
core.
F
F
F
The
focus
of
this
work
is
to
bring
the
diverse
communities
who
use
the
park
into
the
same
sphere
to
give
people
a
chance
to
share
space,
maybe
learn
a
bit
about
each
other
and
engage
as
they
felt
that
they
were
able
to
the
work
had
strong
easy
access,
intergenerational
focus,
powered
by
the
gill
panelosa's
concept
of
8
to
80
problem,
designing
cities
for
young
and
old
that
we
strive
to
make
space
safe
and
accessible
for
8,
year
olds
and
80
year
olds.
It's
a
simple
question:
how
can
cities
create
neighborhoods
that
work?
Well
together?
F
F
You
could
stand
and
watch
for
five
minutes
watch
and
listen
and
tap
your
toes
from
a
distance
or
stay
play,
dance
for
two
hours
and
have
fun
safe,
engaging
experiences.
These
initiatives
provide
great
opportunities
to
learn
about
the
logistics
of
presenting
accessible
programming
in
parks,
as
well
as
keys
to
doing
work
with
a
community
development
lens.
F
F
British
columbia,
including
vancouver
parks
and
green
space
and
urban
centers,
are
facing
pressures
to
accommodate
a
variety
of
uses
amid
growing
populations
and
smaller
private
living
quarters.
It
is
well
documented
that
accessible
park,
spaces
and
green
spaces
can
improve
social,
emotional
and
physical
well-being
for
residents.
However,
green
space
is
often
equal
and
equally
distributed
and
its
best
benefits
inequitably
received
during
the
covet
pandemic
park.
Use
data
by
charity
organization
park
people
found
park,
space
use
by
over
150
percent.
F
Seventy
percent
of
canadians
said
their
appreciation
for
park
and
green
space
is
increased.
Ninety-Four
percent
of
cities
indicated
that
seen
increase
awareness
among
municipal
leadership
of
the
value
of
parks
and
public
health
and
crisis.
Resiliency
82
percent
of
canadians
said
that
parks
have
become
more
important
to
their
mental
health.
F
Almost
two-thirds
of
canadians
report
they
visit
parks
several
times
per
week.
None
of
this
is
a
surprise.
We
have
first
hand
seen
it
and
felt
it
in
the
use
of
our
parks.
The
parks
parks
for
many
are
backyards
or
living
rooms
for
those
that
do
not
have
access
to
space.
Densification
has
immense
benefits,
but
within
that
the
increased
pressure
and
green
space
only
grows.
F
Many
have
heard
of
the
broken
window.
Theory
referring
to
visible
signs
of
disorder
or
misbehavior
an
environment
encourages
further
disorder
and
misbehavior
or
garbage
attracts
garbage.
Referring
to
people
thinking
it's
okay
to
add
debris
to
an
existing
pile.
This
all
makes
spaces
feel
unsafe.
The
increasing
demands
of
outpace
the
resources
deliver
adequate
services
next
slide.
Please,
as
council
will
recall,
park
board,
approved
a
range
of
model
that
improves
safety
in
parks
and
open
spaces.
Increasing
capacity
of
park.
Ranger
services
was
based
on
a
detailed
service
review
and
was
a
was
approved
by
the
park
board.
F
F
Next
slide,
please
park
washrooms
represent
approximately
65
percent
of
all
public
washrooms
safety
is
a
foundation,
is
foundational
for
having
positive
experience
of
public
space
high
use
and
an
increased
range
of
uses,
greatly
impacts
maintenance
requirements
and
puts
more
strain
on
our
already
overused
park.
Washroom
system.
F
Keeping
up
with
these
pressures
to
provide
clean
facilities
is
a
challenge
for
operation
staff
who
service
them.
Washrooms.
Should
be
clean,
functional,
accessible,
their
basic
public
service
and
the
right
that
everyone
is
entitled
to
it's
important
to
recognize
that
successfully
providing
washroom
services
across
vancouver
will
require
continued
efforts
from
both
the
park
board
and
the
city.
F
K
Thanks
adam
and
good
evening,
everyone
we've
heard
today,
and
especially
right
now
with
amit's
conversation
around
the
key
importance
of
relationships
with
throughout
all
the
collaboration
work.
That's
needed
the
relationships
with
community
with
spaces
with
what
we
do,
and
this
is
this-
is
new
for
the
parks,
board,
parks
and
recreation
and
what
it
is.
K
It's
the
urban
relationships
and
what
we
hope
to
do
is
build
on
community
resiliency,
and
one
of
the
words
that
come
to
mind,
for
me
is
the
south
african
word
on
lunatube
and
umbuntu
is
a
quality
of
life
that
includes
essential
human
virtues
like
compassion
and
humanity,
and
our
goal
is
to
look
at
all
these
areas.
That
amit
just
spoke
about
with
that
lens
and
be
able
to
build
relationships
and
support
people
in
learning
and
understanding
and
work
together
and
throughout
tonight.
K
F
F
In
closing,
an
example
of
success
is
oppenheimer
park.
It
involves
community
engagement
through
our
park
planning
department
that
built
the
relationships
carnegie
and
our
recreation
department
activated.
The
park
space
has
strengthened
the
relationships,
increasing
services
to
washrooms
rangers
and
park
maintenance
to
support
the
space
use
it
involved
working
with
our
partners,
engineering,
vancouver
fire,
bpd
accs.
F
F
A
Thanks
so
much,
I
believe:
that's
it
for
staff
presentations
great
so
as
agreed,
we're
gonna
go
through
a
list
of
counselors
questions
and
I
think
everybody's
on
the
cue
here
so
we're
gonna
start
with
council
kirby
young
council
kirby
young
up
to
five
minutes.
Whenever
you're
ready
point.
G
Of
information,
first,
okay,
will
we
have
an
opportunity
for
a
second
round
or
just
one
this
evening?
If
you.
A
Want
to
move
second
round,
we
we
have
about
we
over
60
speakers
so
who
are
waiting
so,
but
it's
up
to
council
if
they
want
to
go
for
a
second
round.
A
Are
you
did
you?
I'm.
G
A
L
But
they're
not
giving
presentations
alongside
staff.
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
Let's
reset
my
timer,
I'm
good
to
go.
I've
got
a
number
question,
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
them
quickly
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
chief
palmer
and
that
relates
specifically.
I
want
to
zero
in
on
ecom,
and
you
had
mentioned
88
000
calls
go
unanswered
and
deemed
61
000
to
be
important.
We
had
a
motion.
I
brought
forward
at
the
council
highlighting
sort
of
the
what
I
call
the
econ
crisis
is
an
important
part
of
our
public
safety
ecosystem.
G
J
Yeah,
some
of
it
I
can
some
of
it.
I
would
rather
not
speak
about
publicly
right
now,
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
work
going
on
committee
work.
Howard
chow
is
actually
the
head
of
our
committee
representing
vpd
on
that
we
do
have
concerns
about
the
way
some
of
the
things
are
being
run
there.
I'll
just
speak
in
general
terms.
J
I
know
there's
a
resourcing
issue
like
I
do
acknowledge
that
a
staffing
issue
we
do-
and
I
will
say,
like
the
actual
people
like
answering
the
911,
calls
and
the
dispatchers
and
the
comm
center
people
are
amazing
people
and
they
have
such
an
important
function
in
the
public
safety
realm.
But
we
do
have
some
concerns
of
some
of
the
systemic
and
decisions
we're
seeing
at
a
higher
level
there
that
need
to
be
remedied.
G
Yeah
thanks
for
referencing
the
pwc
report,
I've
read
that
if
it
was
e-comm
or
variation
or
evolution
of
alternative
service,
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
with
the
police
review
release
for
recommendations
today.
Would
the
vpd
actually
be
able
to
respond
to
those
66
000
calls
today
if
they
came
through
to
you.
J
They're
all
going
to
depend
on
what
kind
of
call
it
is
so
some
of
those
calls
yes,
some
of
them,
maybe
not
some
of
them.
We
may
have
to
turn
to
alternate
response
like
internet
reporting,
telephone
reporting
not
being
able
to
respond
and
just
explain
to
people.
We
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
Some
of
the
lower
level
calls
but
which
we
would
still
have
a
mechanism
in
place
to
record
them
and
get
the
crime
data.
So
we
know
where
things
are
happening
in
our
city
and
know
how
to
respond.
J
G
Okay,
I
could
ask
you
more,
but
I
want
to
spread
my
questions
against
other
around
other
departments
and
have
a
limited
time,
so
thank
you,
chief
palmer,
on
specifically
accs
and
for
sandra
singh,
and
you
had
mentioned
taken
by
a
couple
things:
housing
improves,
well-being
and
outcomes.
You
talked
about
criminalization
of
drug
users.
I
wonder
if
you
can
first
of
all
talk
about
when
you
say
criminalization
specifically,
what
do
you
mean
just
so
that
people
are
clear
on
sure.
I
The
term
itself
has
to
do
with
people
who
are
perhaps
homeless,
perhaps
using
illicit
drugs
being
having
those
drugs
confiscated
from
them
for
for
reasons
because
they're
being
illegal,
and
it
is
been
told
to
us
by
people
who
do
use
drugs,
that
some
of
these
individuals
do
feel
over-policed.
G
I
Exactly
and
there's
also
a
stigma
associated
with
people
who
are
who
may
be
homeless,
who
may
be
on
the
street,
who
are
who
look
poor
and
who
are,
and
have
very
little
means
that
they
experience
being
asked
to
move
along
feelings
of
being
over
over
scrutinized.
That
kind
of
thing,
okay
and
police
often
called
in
to
have
them
remove
that
kind
of
thing
right,
that's
what
people
that
we're
talking
about.
I
appreciate
that.
G
I'm
just
keeping
going,
and
then
I
guess
on
that
note
in
terms
of-
and
this
is
directly
for
sandra
and
with
respect
to
your
comment
around
a
lot
of
this
falls
under
typically
or
should
the
responsibility
senior
government.
But
we
see
it
obviously
play
out
in
our
streets
in
public
spaces.
So
what
do
you
think
the
city
should
be
actually
focusing
investing
in
this
most
within
our
responsibility
or
ability.
D
Yeah,
it's
a
really
good.
It's
a
really
good
question
and
it's
you
know,
through
the
healthy
city
strategy
and
through
our
through
the
housing
vancouver
strategy,
there's
an
opportunity
to
develop
like
focused
policy
and
program
responses.
So
I
think
you
know
I,
I
think,
a
thoughtful
and
well
articulated
advocacy
plan
with
for
senior
government
around
where
our
priorities
are
for
their
investment
and
the
work
that
we
hope
that
they
would
do
with
us
would
be
really
critical.
I
think,
within
our
jurisdiction
mayor,
can
I
move
for
a
second.
A
Hey,
we
have
a
second
round
of
questions.
Councillor
dejanova
you're
up
next.
L
Thanks,
my
first
question
is
for
the
vancouver
police
department
and
I'm
just
wondering
as
coveted
restrictions
are
relaxed
and
the
economy
reopens.
What
do
you
foresee
will
happen
with
crime
and
violence
and
disorder
in
the
city.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question,
so
we
do
anticipate
that,
like
a
lot
of
other
industries,
whether
you're
talking
about
airlines
and
people
returning
to
flights,
we're
talking
about
public
transit
and
people.
Returning
to
that
we're
talking
about
the
entertainment,
business,
people
returning
to
restaurants
and
nightclubs
and
concerts,
and
things
like
that,
the
city
opens
up
the
world's
going
to
open
up.
We
are
going
to
see
things
return
to
probably
more
of
a
regular
type
pattern
that
we
see
with
crime
in
our
city,
which
will
mean
a
significant
increase
in
property
crime
for
sure.
L
Thanks,
I'm
not
sure
which
slide
it
was,
but
you
explained
that
the
police
gets
involved
in
lots
of
incidents
and
some
of
those
aren't
crimes.
Does
that
mean
that
all
of
this
work
could
be
handed
off
to
a
different
agency
these
these
things
that
weren't,
specifically
in
the
realm
of
policing
or
what
you
would
define
as
policing?
All
of
that
that
list
of
other
things
would
they
go
to
a
different
agency?
How
would
you
see
that
working.
J
So
we're
talking
about
car
accidents,
we're
talking
about
missing
persons,
we're
talking
about
somebody
screaming
for
help
we're
talking
about
domestic
violence,
where
there
is
no
assault,
but
people
are
still
having
a
domestic
dispute
and
the
police
need
to
intervene.
So
they
are
the
types
of
calls
that
you
do:
need
trained
professionals
like
police
officers
to
go
and
diffuse
those
situations,
de-escalate
them
and
bring
calm
back
to
chaotic
situations.
L
L
Okay,
I'm
wondering
if,
if
you
could
and
I'm
sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
could
you
share
with
us
a
little
bit
about
whether
or
not
cctv
cameras
are
a
tool
that
are
helpful
for
police
or,
if
that's
something
that
you
would
want
to
engage
in
conversation
with
counsel
about
donald.
J
Thank
you,
don't
worry
about
putting
me
on
this
on
the
spot.
It
goes
with
the
territory,
I'm
totally
good.
With
that.
It's
a
good
question.
So,
when
we're
talking
about
cctv,
I
I
know
that
sometimes
the
discussion
comes
up
with
the
preventative
action.
You
know
aspects
of
it
would
it
prevent
crime?
There
are
a
lot
of
studies
that
will
show
that,
so
you
can
find
that,
but
you
can
find
a
research
on
the
other
side
of
it
as
well,
but
being
a
police
officer
for
35
years
in
the
city.
J
I
can
tell
you
where
the
real
benefit
of
cctv
is
in
the
solving
of
crime
in
the
investigation.
So
when
I
talk
to
you
about
left
of
crisis
right
of
crisis,
lefter
crisis
is
the
prevention
right
of
crisis.
Is
the
crime
is
being
committed
and
we
use
that
as
a
tool
to
solve
the
crime
and
bring
people
to
justice,
and
we
we
have
a
whole
unit
at
the
vancouver
police
department,
called
a
forensic
video
unit
that
reports
to
deputy
chief
fiona
wilson,
who
are
specialized
experts
in
dealing
with
cctv
and
breaking
down
those
images.
J
A
lot
of
the
images
you've
seen
released
publicly
with
violent
crimes,
people
being
pushed
downstairs,
people
having
coffee,
throwing
on
them,
people
that
have
the
the
robbery
we
just
released
of
the
jewelry
store
recently.
Those
sorts
of
examples
that
were
the
gucci
store,
the
examples
that
we're
putting
out
like
that
cctv.
J
Video
footage
is
gold
in
solving
those
crimes
and
it's
great
evidence
in
court
as
well.
The
judges
and
the
prosecutors
use
it
wholeheartedly
to
bring
people
to
justice
so
in
the
solving
of
crime.
It's
a
no-brainer
in
the
prevention
you'll
get
into
a
debate
on
it,
and
I
recognize
that
and
I
also
recognize
it's
a
complex
issue
and
you
do
need
to
have
in-depth
conversations
with
bc.
Civil
liberties
and
other
groups
like
that,
because
it's
not
an
easy
conversation,
but
there's
definitely
benefits
to
it.
But
I
understand
both
sides
of
that
coin
and.
L
Just
the
other
part
of
that
question
I
have
a
minute
left
in
this
round
is:
is
it
something
that
the
vpd
would
want
to
see
expanded
in
areas
not
city-wide,
not
in
every
corner
in
our
city,
but
where
you
see
higher
crime
rates
and
there
aren't
those
private
cameras
by
businesses
in
in
those
places?
But
there's
where
there's
large
gaps
in
having
cctv
cameras.
J
Yeah,
the
certain
areas
of
the
city
would
be
of
benefit.
I
wouldn't
be
a
fan
of
just
blanketing,
the
whole
city
with
it
like
we
see
in
other
cities
around
the
world,
but
I
think
in
strategic
locations.
It
does
make
sense.
We
do
have
a
good
handle
on
where
we
have
private
video
from
cctv
around
the
city,
but
there
are
some
gaps
that
would
be
helpful
for
solving
serious
crimes
in
our
city.
L
M
Fry
thanks
mayor,
I
guess
the
first
question
is
for
the
general
manager
of
arts
culture,
community
services.
M
M
D
In
terms
of
maybe
I'll
I'll
offer
a
few
comments
and
then
invite
mary
clara
to
step
in
as
well,
social
services
in
municipalities
across
the
country
are
are
a
partnership
of
of
multiple
levels
of
government,
and
so
most
major
municipalities
do
do
the
type
of
social
granting
that
we
do
into
the
social
into
the
social
sector.
Other
provinces
see
other
types
of
relationships,
so,
for
example,
in
alberta,
the
provincial
government
funnels
their
investments
in
social
services
as
well
through
their
municipalities,
so
that
there
can
be
that
local
targeted
allocation
of
funding.
D
That's
not
what
we
do
here,
but
certainly
I
think
the
city
does
have
a
role
in
particular
in
in
access
to
space
and
in
some
of
our
grants
at
the
community
level,
but
certainly
we
would.
We
do
think
that
social
services,
many
of
them
should
be.
There
should
be
we.
D
We
would
like
to
see
more
support
from
the
province,
for
example,
sex,
worker
safety
and
there's
another
there's
a
number
of
other
areas
of
work
that
are
underway
right
now
that
are
looking
very
positive
and
we're
seeing
some
really
interesting
work
coming
out
of
the
province.
For
example,
some
of
their
work
and
anti-racism
put.
M
D
M
So
I'm
wondering
then,
if
I
could
ask
the
same
question
as
chief
farmer
and
thank
you
for
your
team
and
for
your
service
and
chief.
Thank
you
for
your
team
and
your
service.
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
thoughts
on
on
the
importance
of
or
where
should
we
be
diverting
some
of
that
funding
that
we
are
putting
into
social
services.
J
No,
you
definitely
need
to
put
some
funding
into
social
services
100,
but
I
say
I've
said
that
in
my
presentation,
it's
not
an
either
or
proposition.
You
need
to
have
funding
in
those
areas,
but
this
this
is
going
to
go
back
to
my
other
point,
where
this
city
has
never
taken
a
holistic
look
at
all
of
its
services
and
maybe
it's
money
that
needs
to
come
from
some
other
department.
That's
not
even
here
today.
You
need
to
look
at
the
whole
department
and
have
professionals
and
experts
come
in.
M
More
and
and
again,
and
thank
you
for
your
service
and
I'm
sorry
to
hear
about
last
night's
situation.
I
hope
everything
worked
out.
Okay.
Thank
you.
I
like
what
you're
saying
about
this
holistic
approach.
Do
you
see
an
opportunity
for
should
we
be
looking
towards
sort
of
a
vancouver
agreement,
2.0
kind
of
approach
where
we're
consolidating
a
lot
of
those
issues
and
taking
a
holistic
look
at
safety.
J
Yes,
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
that
you
know
local
government,
provincial
government,
federal
government
and
health
authorities
arenas
like
that.
We
need-
and
you
know,
non-profits
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
people
you
can
bring
into
it,
but
vancouver
2.0
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
think
that
there
was
some
traction
on
the
first
one
I
think
getting
everybody
together.
There's
a
lot
of
you
know
this
going
on
people
pointing
in
different
directions.
That's
their
responsibility,
that's
their
responsibility,
and
I
get
the
whole
idea
that
well
they're
not
doing
it.
J
So
we've
got
to
pick
it
up
and
do
it,
but
something's
got
to
be
done
because
it's
not
working
like
we're
trying
to
you
know,
draw
peter
to
pay
paul
and
not
really
looking
at.
I
don't
think
an
efficient
review
of
the
entire
enterprise
or
system
is
just
too
piecemeal
and
too
simplistic
the
approach
that
we're
taking.
M
So-
and
I
think
I
may
have
heard
it
from
you,
but
I've
certainly
heard
it
from
other
places
that
there's
a
small
coterie
of
people
that
are
causing
a
great
deal
of
the
sort
of
I
guess-
property,
crime
or
just
criminal
activity
is
that
is
that
an
issue
of
the
province
and
the
courts
really
that
are
kind
of
downloading
onto
us.
At
the
civic
level.
J
Well,
you
know
I
got
to
be
careful
what
I
say
about
the
courts,
because
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
you
know,
I'm
in
the
justice
system.
I
don't
want
to
say
anything
negative
about
the
courts,
but
I
want
to
say
it
is
a
joint
responsibility
of
all
of
us.
Courts
are
a
part
of
it.
Police
are
part
of
it.
The
whole
social
safety
net
system,
where
we're
talking
about
poverty,
addiction,
mental
health,
homelessness.
All
those
issues
that
we're
well
aware
of
all
of
these
things
contribute
crime.
J
Public
safety
is
all
part
of
that.
It's
all
one
big
system
and
there's
just
a
real
lack
of
cohesiveness,
where
everybody's
getting
together,
talking,
there's
piecemeal
stuff
going
on,
and
some
great
work
like
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
between
police
and
mental
health
and
there's
some
other
great
projects
as
well
at
the
city
and
at
the
provincial
level,
but
nobody's
in
charge
like
nobody's
in
charge
of
the
grand
picture
and
particularly
troubled
neighborhoods
in
our
city,
like
the
downtown
eastside
gas
town,
chinatown
who's,
bringing
that
all
together,
like
I've,
got
my
areas
of
responsibility.
J
The
fire
chief
does
sander.
Does
margaret
witkins
does
everybody's
got
their
piece?
We
can
all
talk,
but
then
you've
got
provincial
and
federal
entities.
They
some
are
at
the
table.
Some
aren't
it's
too
disjointed.
I
am
always
been
a
big
proponent,
like
in
a
report
on
project
lockstep,
and
I
spoke
with
the
special
committee
reforming
the
police
act
on
this
issue.
J
E
Thanks
thanks
so
much,
and
actually
I
think
my
questions
follow
well
from
counselor
fry's,
so
really
appreciate
all
of
these
presentations.
I'm
sorry,
I
couldn't
be
there
in
person,
but
I
am
on
child
care
duty
as
well.
My
first
question
is
for
sandra
and
her
team
in
accs.
E
I'm
wondering
I've
really
appreciated
this
conversation
about
the
need
for
adequately
funded
social
services
as
part
of
our
public
safety
response
and
I'm
curious
to
hear
from
accs.
If
you
had
more
funding,
if
we
were
fully
adequately
funding
the
social
service
work
within
the
city's
jurisdiction.
That
you're
taking
on
is
there
more
that
your
department
or
staff
could
be
doing
to
improve
community
safety
and
well-being
and
what?
What
would
that
look
like
from
a
accs
workload
or
lens.
D
Thanks
for
the
question,
that's
a
really
large
question
and
I'm
not
sure
I
could.
I
could
hone
in
on
a
response
right
now,
but
what
I
can
say
is
that
there
is
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
but
the
but
again
like,
as
per
my
presentation,
some
of
the
systemic
issues
are
really
upstream
from
us:
inadequate
income
assistance
and
shelter
allowance.
It
is
impossible
to
live
in
this
city
on
income
assistance
375
a
month
for
a
shelter
375
a
month
for
shelter
allowance
you
as
a
housing
provider.
D
You
can't
maintain
your
housing.
At
that
rate,
it's.
D
If
if
we
had
improved
income
assistance
or
a
greater
low
barrier
economy,
engagement
opportunities,
we
wouldn't
need
food.
Food
security
would
be
addressed
from
a
poverty
perspective
because
people
could
afford
food.
So
I
think
there's
there's
a
number
of
upstream
drivers
that
that
are
just
so
foundational
to
look
at,
but
but
certainly
I
could
come
back
with
recommendations
for
for
more
work
from
the
city
for
the
city
side
for
sure.
E
Okay,
so
that
I
mean
I
certainly
hear-
and
I
think
we've
heard
very
clearly-
a
huge
need
for
the
province
to
be
doing
more
on
this
front,
but
my
sense
and-
and
I
I
look-
I
know
that's
a
big
question-
I
look
forward
to
hearing
back
more
on
what
we
could
be
doing
within
our
jurisdiction
from
a
from
a
approach
of
addressing
those
social
determinants
of
health.
D
Oh
sorry,
one
more
thing:
counselor.
We
have
a
number
of
report
backs
coming
to
council
this
spring
decriminalized
poverty
anti-racism,
so
there's
a
signif,
the
murdered
missing
indigenous
women
and
girls
report
back
so
we'll
be
bringing
further
recommendations
to
council
through
those
report
backs.
E
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
I'm
curious
and
I
don't
know
if
actually
quite
who
this
is
a
question
for,
but
I,
as
I'm
sure
many
others
have
have
been
thinking,
a
lot
about
the
hundred
deaths
that
we
had
in
vancouver
from
the
heat
dome
last
spring
and
how
we
prepare
to
avoid
that
in
the
future,
and
I'm
just
interested
to
hear
how
that
100
deaths
is
obviously
pretty
significant.
How
does
that
fit
into
our
shared
responsibility?
Around
public
safety.
C
Paul
mochry
here
I
can
speak
to
that.
So
we
have
an
extensive
effort
underway
to
review
the
circumstance
of
the
heat
dome.
Our
staff
emergency
management
staff
have
been
working
with
the
coroner
to
really
understand
that
data
for
vancouver
and
a
immense
amount
of
work
underway
across
various
departments
to
plan
for
heat
response
in
the
coming
years.
That's
something
we're
going
to
be
reporting
back
to
you
on
before
the
summer.
So
you'll
get
a
lot
more
detail
on
that.
E
Deaths
and
that
issue
as
a
public
safety
issue
in
the
city,
absolutely
okay.
I
appreciate
that
and
in
my
last
minute
and
again
I
appreciate
this
is
a
big
question.
I
guess
I'm
interested
in
knowing
what
the
biggest
needs
we
have
are
for
the
province
in
terms
of
how
we
address
and
improve
public
and
community
safety.
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
ask
anyone
to
answer
that
in
30
seconds,
so
maybe
I'll
just
go
back
on
the
list
for
now.
Thank
you
all.
E
N
Okay,
great
thank
you
so
yeah,
just
expressing
my
appreciation
for
the
work
that
was
done
and
the
presentations
from
staff
and
the
heads
of
the
various
departments.
N
My
first
question
is
to
chief
palmer
and
you
pointed
out
a
number
of
different
stats
and
and
if,
if
one
was
to
sort
of
categorize,
the
various
spikes
in
in
incidents
across
the
city,
the
graffiti
problematic
vandalism
damage
to
private
property,
which
is
hugely
problematic
for
very
you,
know,
varied
reasons,
and
how
that
bucket
of
crime
type
of
type
of
incidents
relates
to
those
that
are
more
direct
sort
of
pose
a
direct
risk
to
one's
personal
safety.
N
So
stranger
attacks
physical
violence,
things
like
that
is
there
anything
that
you
can
sort
of
offer
to
the
public
in
terms
of
the
crossover
of
those
that
are
are
charged
with
those
various
types
or
found
to
be
involved
in
those
various
types
and
how
much
crossover
there
is,
or
are
they
quite
distinct
in
terms
of
those
committing
those
types
of
incidents
and
offenses?.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question.
So
sometimes
there's
crossover
many
times,
there's
not
there's
different
issues
at
play,
sometimes
with
property
crime.
I
don't
think
it's
any
surprise
that
many
times
there's
low-level
addiction,
issues
involved
and
people
committing
crime
breaking
into
cars.
Things
like
that
to
support
drug
habits-
and
I
think,
that's
you
know
well-documented
and
well-known
in
the
city,
sometimes
on
the
violent
crimes
that
we're
seeing
with
you
know,
assaults
on
people,
shootings,
robberies.
It
really
depends.
Some
are
organized
crime
related
some
have
mental
health
components
to
them.
J
Everybody's
got
a
different
story,
but
there's
many
things
that
play
when
we're
talking
about
crime
and
criminality.
Some
are
chronic
offenders.
Some
will
have
a
mental
health
component
to
that.
Others
are
just
career
criminals
that
are
out
going
to
a
job.
Every
day
like
you
and
I
go
to
a
job
and
that's
what
they
do
is
they
commit
crime?
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
mixed
bag.
N
Okay,
that's
helpful,
so
you
did
mention
repeat
offenders
or
chronic
offenders,
and
I
note
in
a
letter
that
recently
went
out
by
the
urban
mayor's
caucus
to
the
provincial
of
the
attorney
general
and
the
minister
of
mike
foreign.
There
was
a
cited
stat
that
basically
said
that
I
think
it's
over
6
300
of
negative
interactions
with
police
were
caused
or
involved
only
40
individuals
in
the
city
of
vancouver.
J
Well,
if
you
want
to
hear
the
real
shocker,
the
40
is
just
our
super,
chronic
offenders
that
are
completely
off
the
charts.
So
those
are
those
40
people
that
we're
talking
about
there.
Those
people
have
an
average
number
of
convictions
of
54
criminal
convictions,
each
the
average
number
of
time
each
of
those
people
is
spent
in
jail
is
4474
days
and
the
average
days
percents
they're
getting
is
about
93
every
time,
they're
being
reconvicted
of
a
crime.
J
So
those
are
the
super
chronics
if
you
back
it
up
and
actually
look
at
different
levels
of
definition
in
different
cities.
If
you
go
to
the
highest
number
like
people
that
have
committed
five
or
more
property
crimes
in
vancouver,
there's
actually
1
964
people
like
that,
but
we
couldn't
possibly
manage
and
come
up
with
plans
for
1964
people.
So
then
we
go
down
to
the
people
that
have
12
or
more
property
crimes,
and
that
would
be
631
people
and
even
that
we
can't
manage.
J
So
then
we
go
down
to
our
chronic
offenders,
your
basic
chronic
offenders,
which
is
83
people
and
then
super
chronics,
which
are
the
ones
that
are.
You
know
at
the
really
high
end
of
the
scale-
that's
40.,
so
it's
an
escalating
or
de-escalating
scale
depending
how
you
look
at
it.
But
we've
got
very
good
data
and
numbers
and
we
do
have
a
chronic
offenders
unit
that
does
go
after
people
that
are
committing
the
most
crime
in
our
city,
and
it
is
always
a
small
number
of
people
committing
the
most
amount
of
crime.
J
Absolutely
and
chronic
offenders
exemplify
that.
L
N
I
have
another
bigger
question,
so
I'll
go
back
on
the
queue
so
just
following
up
to
that.
You
mentioned
sort
of
talking
about
the
city,
sort
of
taking
a
a
sort
of
zoomed
out
approach
and
looking
at
all
of
our
departments
and
how
we're
working
together
and
the
excitement
around
the
auditor
general
office
of
the
auditor
general.
N
Given
those
numbers,
can
you
just
share
a
little
bit
about
how
that
relationship
works
with
the
police
suggested
system
the
province
in
terms
of
being
able
to
zero
in
on
the
data
that
you're
referencing
and
how
to
me
that
seems
anyway.
I
don't
want
to
keep
talking,
but
I
just
want
to
understand
how
how
is
the
system
working
together
to
help
make
things
better.
J
Well,
I
would
say,
under
the
solicitor
general's
ministry
minister,
mike
farmer,
things
actually
work
very
well.
I
think
the
soul
gens
ministry
is
functioning
well.
I
think
that
you
know
they're
doing
a
really
good
job
and
good
support
from
the
province
for
policing,
in
british
columbia,
through
police
services
and
through
the
minister
there's
all
kinds
of
requirements
to
the
the
province
which
you
know
ultimately
has
responsibility
for
policing.
As
we
know
in
british
columbia
like
any
province
in
canada,
but
there's
all
kinds
of
training
standards.
J
Through
our
you
know,
key
performance
indicators,
our
annual
business
plans,
there's
many
many
things
that
we're
tracking
and
that
we're
aligned
on,
but
we
got
good
data
on
a
lot
of
things,
but
I
think
where
there's
still
that
disconnect,
as
I
mentioned,
is
that
not
all
of
the
different
areas,
because
sometimes
they're,
you
know
different
government
areas
of
responsibility,
don't
work
as
cohesively
as
possible.
J
So
just
you
know
another
example
of
it
would
be
like
if
you
think
about
the
downtown
east
side
or
the
strathcona
neighborhood,
where
we
do
get
a
lot
of
calls
for
service
and
a
lot
of
concerns
from
residents
and
people
in
those
neighborhoods.
You've
got.
You
know:
poverty,
poverty
reduction,
you've
got
employment
issues,
you've
got
housing
issues,
you've
got
criminal
justice
issues,
you've
got
attorney
general
issues,
education,
there's
so
many
different
ministries,
social
services-
that
all
from
the
provincial
government
overlap
in
that
neighborhood.
But
there's
nobody
really
pulling
it
all
together.
J
There's
a
lot
of
silos
happening
in
government
and
you
can
see
it.
You
know
at
the
city
level
as
well.
You've
got
again
another
layer
of
bureaucracy.
That's
dealing
with
these
issues,
but
not
everybody
is
all
aligned
in
one
cohesive,
provincial,
slash
local
plan
going
to
councillor
fry's
comment
earlier
about
having
more
coordination
there
on
a
vancouver,
2.0
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
But
that
concept,
I
think,
is
a
good
one.
A
Counselors,
I
just
ask
you
to
give
the
the
speakers
just
some
time
to
answer,
because
otherwise
we
go
way
over
the
five
minutes:
counselor
harvick.
I
Thank
you
chief
palmer
again
I'd
like
to
ask
you
a
question:
we've
heard
many
briefings
while
we've
been
on
in
this
term,
and
we've
also
heard
briefings
from
vancouver
coastal
health
and
and
otherwise.
So,
despite
the
number
of
times
we've
had
these
briefings
on
the
partnership
and
the
work
on
the
the
mental
health
front,
we
continue
to
hear
about
people
talking
about
better
programs
elsewhere
that
we
might
emulate.
I
J
Well,
I
always
think
we
should
be
looking
at
other
programs
from
elsewhere.
I
think
that
it's
healthy
and
that's
what
we've
done
over
the
years
is
beg,
borrow
and
steal
ideas
and
look
at
best
practices
and
look
at
what
other
places
are
doing
in
canada
in
the
united
states
in
europe.
Other
places
around
the
world,
because
there's
a
lot
of
good
work
happening
in
public
safety
and
other
places
in
the
world,
and
we
try
to
incorporate
that
into
our
business
planning
in
vancouver.
We
don't
think
that
we
have
all
the
answers.
J
You
know
there's
some
great
things
with
cahoots
down
in
eugene
oregon,
there's
some
great
things
happening
with
the
star
program
down
in
denver,
colorado,
there's
great
things
happening
in
many
cities
across
canada
and
some
really
good
things
here.
I'll
say
like
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
vancouver
coastal
health,
and
I
give
them.
J
You
know
props
and
a
shout
out
all
the
time,
because
they
are
struggling
with
resources
like
everybody
else,
but
they
really
have
stepped
up
to
the
table
and
they've
done
a
really
good
job
of
coming
forward
with
progressive
programs
that
we
work
with
them
like
act
and
aot
the
8788
program
that
work
well,
but
I
will
tell
you
like:
in
the
assertive
outreach
team
and
the
assertive
community
treatment
teams,
we
can
always
use
more
resources
in
those
areas
they
are
so
successful.
The
data
is
proven
that
those
success.
I
Well,
thank
you
for
that.
One
more
thing:
there's
lots
of
questions
about
crime
being
up
in
crime
being
down
and
on
social
media.
It's
really
become
the
activity.
Du
jour
is
getting.
You
know,
photographs
of
broken
store,
windows
and
chronicling
all
of
the
crime
that's
going
on.
So
can
you
clear
this
up
for
us
for
once
and
for
all?
I
know
you
did
at
the
beginning
of
your
presentation,
but
the
concern
that
we're
hearing,
particularly
about
street
crime,
smashing
windows,
all
that
stuff
are
we
up.
Are
we
down?
J
Yeah
smashing
windows
are
definitely
up.
I
give
that
stat.
I
think
it
was
48
percent,
something
like
that.
Property
crime
in
general
is
actually
down
pre-pandemic
levels,
but
we
know
that
it
will
creep
up
as
the
pandemic
starts
to
wind
down
a
bit.
Violent
crime
is
the
real
concern
right
now
in
specific
categories,
including
serious,
violent
crime.
J
What
I
will
say,
though,
the
other
thing
that
I
did
highlight
tonight
that
I
think
is
really
important
for
council
to
keep
in
mind
is
the
amount
of
crime
that
is
not
being
reported,
it's
being
reported,
but
we're
not
able
to
capture
it
because
we're
not
able
to
answer
the
telephone
and
take
those
re.
Take
those
reports
which
is
concerning
so
you've
got
88
000
times
last
year.
People
can't
get
through
that's
a
problem.
K
Thanks
very
much,
I
have
first
to
meet
ghanda
around
parks.
You
raised
the
issue
about
the
park
rangers
and
there
were.
There
were
really
tough
decisions
in
the
last
operating
budget,
and
you
kind
of
pointed
to
that.
It
would
help
me
actually
to
know
what
park
rangers
do
to
help
public
safety
and
reduce
crime
and
including
helping
out
the
homeless
people
who
have
by
law
the
right
to
camp
overnight.
To
what
to
do.
F
Thank
you
for
that
I'll,
maybe
I'll
start
off
and
then
I'll
defer
to
betty
to
add
some
more,
but
I
mean
our
park
rangers.
It's
really
about
engagement.
It's
really
about
building
relationships,
building,
trust
our
park
rangers
do
an
absolute
amazing
job,
understanding
the
individuals
that
are
in
our
spaces.
F
We
have
the
encampment
piece
going
on
in
crab
park,
for
example,
and
our
rangers
are
there
supporting,
but
at
the
same
time
working
to
support
those
individuals
to
to
get
the
aid
or
the
supports
that
they're
looking
for
towards
housing,
etc.
So
they're
connectors
in
some
ways
to
many
of
the
agencies,
whether
it's
accs
carnegie
or
bc
housing,
but
they
also
are
also
like
out
there.
You
know
doing
assessments
seeing
how
people
are
doing
for
many.
F
They
are
the
point
person
or
the
only
point
of
contact
in
many
or
several
or
parks,
so
that
work
continues.
They
bring
awareness,
they
bring
education
and
they
bring
resources
to
those
individuals
and
maybe
I'll
turn
it
over
to
betty
just
to
maybe
speak
a
little
bit
more
on
that.
K
And
maybe
betty,
if
you
can
answer,
also
how
how
many
contacts
do
they
have?
I
mean
how
many
people
do
they
actually
end
up
really
having
those
commute?
Those
close
communications
with
you,
that's
a
good
question
right
now.
What
we're
looking
at,
and
particularly
I
could
speak
to
crab
park-
is
we're
building
those
relationships
and
as
many
people
that
can
come
out
so
once
a
week
myself
and
the
park
rangers
go
out
on
thursday
afternoon
to
have
and
welcome
any
of
those
sheltering
in
the
park
to
have
a
conversation
with
us.
K
We
also
give
them
notice
about
what
we're
doing
what's
coming
up
next,
seeking
out
their
stories
and
their
opinions
and
building
those
relationships.
So
we
can
make
those
crucial
connections
that
will
support
their
safety
and
well-being,
and
emmett
mentioned
this
in
his
presentation
about,
you
know
sheltering
the
parks
and
people
utilizing
the
parks.
K
We
need
to
make
it
safe
for
everybody
who's
going
to
do
that,
including
those
sheltering
so
finding
out
what
those
needs
are,
but
also
working
with
the
advocates
to
to
support
what
they're
looking
for
and
what
they're
doing,
but
really
concentrating
on
who's
there
who's
in
the
park.
What
do
we
need
and
working
closely
with
acss,
as
well
as
vancouver
coastal
health,
as
well
as
bc,
housing
to
help
ensure
that
we
have
enough
resources
that
we
can?
K
We
can
support
people
in
getting
and
turning
them
into
the
direction
in
which
they
want
to
create
much
better
well-being
for
themselves,
and
so
just
to
be
clear.
The
law
says
that
people
can
shelter
overnight,
but
they
have
to
leave
by
a
certain
time.
So
do
the
park
rangers.
Are
they
do
they
facilitate
that
or
help
people?
In
terms
of
that.
F
Yeah,
I
can
take
that
yes,
absolutely
so
they
they
will
facilitate,
they
will
support.
Sometimes
they
need
help
to
do
things
or
perhaps
collect
their
their
belongings.
But
again
it's
a
very
conversational
approach.
F
Many
of
these
individuals
in
these
parks
and
our
park
rangers
know
them
almost
to
the
level
by
name
as
individuals
as
people
who
are
struggling
so
they're,
very
positive
conversations.
We
don't
just
have
overnight
sheltering
that
you
would,
you
know,
think
just
in
the
downtown
east
side.
These
are
things
that
are
happening.
Citywide
and
these
are
conversations
are
had
on
a
very
daily
basis
in
a
very
productive,
very
meaningful,
very
respectful
way.
So
they're
there
to
support
that,
and-
and
and
to
be
honest,
it's
very
successful.
K
I'm
going
to
just
start
a
question.
I
will
come
back
on
the
list
mayor
but
to
margaret
witkins,
I'm
I'm
very
interested
in
the
public
plazas,
the
gym
diva
plaza
on
davey
street
and
in
my
neighborhood,
for
example,
and
and
some
of
the
difficulties
actually
in
activating
those
classes
and
what
the
needs
are
from
the
city
I'm
going
to
run
out
of
time.
But
you
can
think
about
this
because
I'll
get
back
on
the
list
and
yeah
thanks.
I
A
I'll
have
you
for
the
first
round
there
counselor
swanson
thanks
and
thank
you
councillor
carr,
for
keeping
under
the
five
counselor
weep.
O
Yeah,
my
first
question
is
to
park
board
to
anaganda.
You
talked
about
needing
resources
to
deliver
public
safety,
clean,
washrooms,
better
lighting,
better
services.
Can
you
talk
about
what
resources
you
are
looking
for
to
really
deliver
the
services?
The
public
are
expecting.
F
That's
a
big
question,
I
think
part
of
it
is
we
we
need
to
come
back
with
what
that
looks
like,
but
in
general,
what
we're
looking.
I,
I
think
what
we
tried
to
demonstrate
is
this:
the
work
that
we
are
doing
with
our
park
activation
the
work
that
we
are
doing
with
our
washrooms
with
the
rangers,
our
operations,
crews,
and,
to
be
honest,
as
chief
palmer
alluded
to
earlier,
it's
a
bit
of
a
collaboration
as
well
like
this
is
not
a
one-source
solution.
O
All
right
that'd
be
very
helpful.
My
next
one's
to
mark
wiggins
from
engineering.
I
recognize
we
don't
have
anyone
from
planning
here.
There's
a
lot
of
great
community
safety
work.
When
you
look
online
and
acs
had
how
we
build
a
complete
community,
that's
involved
in
step,
dead,
design
and
design
and
planning
of
how
we
build
cities.
Can
you
talk
about
some
of
the
implementation
of
some
of
the
safety
work
we
are
doing
to
make
places
feel
more
safe.
B
Certainly
I
mean
I
can
affirm
that
septed
is
a
core
design
principle
when
we're
designing
any
street
or
public
space,
and
you
know
I
maybe
would
call
on
lisa
parker
if
she
wanted
to
speak
to
some
of
the
plaza
specific
components
that
have
informed
our
design.
Thinking.
O
E
Great,
thank
you.
Yes,
parker
director
of
public
space
and
street
use,
maybe
just
kind
of
building
on
where
margaret
was
going
with.
That
is.
We
do
really
want
to
embrace
and
understand
the
role
of
public
realm.
E
Space
that
really
brings
a
lot
of
eyes
into
the
into
the
space,
allowing
people
to
feel
really
welcomed.
There's
different
ways
of
having
that
activation,
be
it
can.
It
can
start
from
our
responsibility,
which
is
really
having
a
clean,
functioning
space,
good
sight
lines
reliable.
You
know
good,
safe
furniture,
different
pieces
of
that
regard,
also
working
with
partners
with
our
business
partners,
for
example,
that
could
have
different
ways
of
activating
that
space
is
a
real
pos.
Positive
way
of
welcoming
more
people.
O
Okay,
thank
you.
My
next
question
is
to
the
vpd
chief
palmer
and
that's
really
on
this
idea
of
a
coordinated
plan
holistic
strategy
in
the
ride
out
mr
rideout's
report.
It
talks
about
developing
policy
priorities
and
goals
in
collaboration
with
the
city.
Can
you
talk
about
how
moving
forward
we
can
really
start
to
work
collectively
together?
J
Right
so
we're
doing
that
now
I
mean
right
now
we
do
have
you
know
the
business
plan
that
we
do
work
on
with
the
clt
level
and
all
city
departments,
including
boards
parks,
police
library.
Everybody
does
contribute
to
that.
So
we
do
have
that
plan
that
we
work
with
the
city
manager
on
that
vpd
has
an
important
component
of
that
with
public
safety.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
going
on
and
you
know
a
lot
of
that.
Work
is
already
in
place,
but
I
think
the
bigger
issue
is
that
you
know
vpd's
got
plans.
J
O
J
O
You
talked
about
the
crisis
you're
talking
about
more
the
preventive
stuff
you're
talking
about
the
cctv
earlier
was
there's
no
one
on
the
right
side,
but
on
the
left,
you
talked
about
the
preventative
work
that
the
vpd
is
doing.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
those
relationships
and
how
that's
developing.
J
Yeah
we've
got
tons
of
stuff
going
on
there
so
really
like
it's
even
broken
down
as
detailed
as
specific
types
of
crimes,
so
whether
it's
sexual
assaults
or
domestic
violence
or
mental
health
we've
actually
put
out
a
really
good
report
called
community
matters
which
is
probably
about
80
pages
long
that'll
detail
all
that
for
you
and
I
can
send
you
a
link
to
it.
It'll
give
you
a
lot
of
the
detail
on
that.
A
That's
my
time,
thank
you.
Thanks
chief,
you
want
to
stay
there.
I
have
a
question
for
you
and
for
and
second
for
the
city
manager,
I'm
just
because
you're
so
familiar
with
it,
and
we
actually
just
had
a
massive
report
from
the
province
today
about
police
act
reform.
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
describe
briefly
how
the
police
act
works
and
like
how
you
fit
under
that
act.
J
Sure
so,
policing
in
british
columbia
is
a
provincial
responsibility.
There
is
a
provincial
act
called
the
bc
police
act
which
governs
police
governance.
It
governs
structure
it
governs
boards,
it
governs
training,
it
governs
departments,
it
governs
the
the
chief
of
police
and
what
my
responsibilities
are.
J
It
really
is
a
blueprint
for
how
policing
will
take
place
in
british
columbia
and
then
the
complexity,
of
course,
is
you
add
on
to
that
boards,
and
then
you've
got
city
councils
and
all
these
disparate
entities,
which
are
all
very
important
and
we
all
have
to
work
together,
but
it
is,
you
know,
I
think,
when
you
got
provincial
oversight
on
something
that
really
impacts
local
cities.
You
do
have
disconnects.
I
think
that
that
report
we're
still
trying
starting
to
digest
it.
J
I've
seen
you
know,
sort
of
the
highlights
and
the
categories
I
did
have
a
little
bit
of
a
sneak
preview
on
some
of
it.
I
think
there's
some
good
suggestions
in
there.
I
think
there
is
a
way
forward
there
that
will
be
positive,
we're
going
to
get
into
it
in
detail
and
see
what
we
have
to
take,
because
I
know
there
will
be
actions
that
we're
going
to
have
to
take
as
a
police
department
of
things
that
will
impact
the
city.
But
I'm
excited
about
the
review.
J
A
So
under
the
act,
the
province
appoints
a
board
essentially
who
hires
you
and-
and
you
have
control
of
police
operations
almost
exclusively
right.
Is
that
how
you
understand
it
really.
J
Yep,
so
the
board's
main
responsibility.
So
it's
a
nine-member
board.
Your
worship,
you
charit,
as
the
mayor
of
the
municipality,
there's
one
city
appointee,
there's
seven
provincial
appointees.
The
biggest
board
in
bc
would
be
nine,
which
is
vancouver,
but
you
will
have
smaller
cities
that
will
have
seven
or
five
member
boards
for
policing.
The
board's
responsibility
includes
from
a
governance
perspective
would
include
policy
and
procedure,
approval,
the
budgets
and
finance
approval,
hiring
and
firing
the
chief
strategic
direction.
J
We
just
came
up
with
a
new
vpd
strategic
plan
from
2022
to
2026.,
so
they
look
at
those
high
level,
governance
issues
similar
to
many
other
boards
and
many
other
sectors
that
boards
would
have
responsibility
for
and
the
day-to-day
operations
are
ultimately
the
responsibility
of
the
chief
constable.
So
I
mean
the
board
would
not
have
expertise
on
how
to
investigate
you,
know:
homicides
or
major
crime
or
sexual
assaults,
or
these
sorts
of
things.
So
that's
where
you
have
the
professional
staff
that
deal
with
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
department
thanks
so
much.
A
And
for
the
city
manager,
you
know,
there's
a
well
publicized
review
by
the
province
on
on
our
budget
of
and
that's
been
resolved.
So
I
just
if
you
can
just
you
know.
We
mostly
know
this,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
the
public
to
know
so
over
the
last
four
years.
Just
how
have
the
police
budgets
worked?
You
know
as
they
come
to
council
what
how
much
have
we
have?
A
We
fully
funded
our
requests,
maybe
what's
the
total
of
the
money
we've
spent
over
the
last
four
years
on
policing?
Maybe
you
can
start
with
with
those.
C
Certainly
so
the
for
the
last
four
years,
the
city
has
funded
the
requests
that
have
come
from
the
vancouver
police
board.
As
you
indicated
mayor
stewart
in
2021,
there
was
a
dispute.
C
Ultimately,
the
police
board's
expenditures
exceeded
their
original
request
and
then
that
request
was
subsequently
supported
by
director
police
services,
so
the
board
was
fully
funded
in
fact,
spent
beyond
that
for
2021
for
2022,
the
city
council
approved
a
budget
that
was
consistent
with
the
police
board's
request.
C
The
I
don't
have
the
the
total
number
the
chief
may
know,
but
the
you
know,
in
terms
of
proportion
of
the
city's
budget
for
2022
police
services
represents
21
of
the
city's
operating
budget.
A
Great
okay,
that's
it!
For
me
thanks
very
much
now,
councillor
swanson,
you
are
gonna
advance
you
because
you're
you
haven't
gone
yet.
So,
let's
see
if
this
works,
oh,
I
think
it
did
go
ahead.
Counselor
swanson.
I
Okay
thanks:
I
think
the
these
questions
are
for
sandra
singh,
so
in
my
mind,
the
worst
safety
crisis
that
we're
having
is
the
poison
drug
crisis,
which
is
killing
probably
more
than
one
person
a
day
in
the
city.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
I'll
offer
a
few
brief
comments
and
then
I'll
invite
mary
claire
zach
to
speak.
So
as
a
counselor,
as
you
know,
we
are
actively
in
discussions
with
the
federal
government
around
the
section
56
exemption
request,
which
is
absolutely
critical.
We
have
two
council
motions
underway
right
now
that
we're
responding
to
one
on
safe
supply,
as
well
as
beginning
the
review
of
the
four
pillars
drug
strategy.
The
team
continues
to
engage
the
cat
in
partnership
with
vch
and
and
mary
clara.
D
I
Will
be
reporting
back
to
the
motion
on
safe
supply
in
the
coming
months
and
the
staff
have
just
started
actually
the
engagement
with
with
residents
on
that
whole
process.
Okay,
second
question.
Thank
you
is
one
of
your
slides
talked
about
the
alternative
to
street
cleaning,
and
I
wondered
when
we're
going
to
get
the
report
on
that
and
what
is
it
likely
to
recommend
that
report
will
be
coming
in
july?
I
Community
groups,
as
well
as
peers,
are
providing
us
with
feedback
on
what
those
alternatives
will
look
like
it's
looking
like
more
programming
that
will
involve
peers,
working
with
people
connecting
them
to
services
and
finding
ways
to
keep
the
streets
and
the
environments
clean,
which
everybody
wants
through
that
kind
of
a
peer-led
kind
of
programming.
So
that's
just
an
initial
still
in
initial
stages,
there'll
be
more
to
come.
I
D
Yeah,
I
think
the
as
council
knows
the
for,
for
example,
a
single,
a
single
resident
in
in
british
columbia.
Right
now,
the
rate
monthly
rate
is
about
a
thousand
a
thousand
dollars.
Shelter
allowance
is
about
375.,
sros
are
often
considered
the
last
resort
of
housing
before
homelessness
and
the
average
sro
rent
now
in
vancouver
is
560
dollars.
D
So
it's
this
is
a
system,
that's
driving
people
into
homelessness
and
and
and
desperation,
and
so
I
think
that
it's
quite
quite
a
profound
structural
deficit
that
collectively
we
need
to.
We
need
to
resolve
with,
in
partnership
with
senior
government.
A
C
This
question's
probably
directed
to
sandra-
and
it's
just
around-
I
I
think
I
heard
in
your
update
that
you
referenced
that
there's
some
work
that's
been
undertaken
around
when
people
are
in
mental
health
crisis
so
and
they
called
9-1-1
there'd,
be
another
option
to
pursue
this
right
now
you
know:
ask
police
fire
ambulance.
I
believe,
and
I've
only
had
a
chance
to
skim
the
the
province's
recommendations
that
came
through
today,
but
I
see
that
that
is
part
of
the
recommendation.
C
Something
to
that
effect
is
there
a
possibility
are.
Are
we
duplicating
work
in
that
regard,
or
is
this
something
that
we'll
be
building
on?
We've
been
having
these
conversations
provincially
and,
and
so
it
just
sort
of
dovetails
what
the
recommendations
are
coming
out
and
now
at
this
time.
I
We're
hopeful
that
this
will
be
a
dovetail
we've
had
where
we
have
a
working
group
with
representatives
from
community
on
that
that
public
safety,
inclusive
general,
has
asked
to
join
precisely
for
that
reason,
so
that
there
can
be
that
synergy.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
that
conversation.
G
I
want
to
pick
up
where
I
left
off
with
sandra
and
really
zero
in
on
this,
because
I
had
asked
the
question,
and
I
think
I
asked
what
was
within
our
responsibility,
but
also
our
ability-
and
you
were
just
starting
to
convey
around
the
opportunity
to
put
forward
sort
of
clear
advocacy
plan
for
senior
government
and
so
just
to
flush
out
this
question
a
little
bit
and
in
terms
of
what
we've
heard
from
chief
palmer
as
well,
about
sort
of
disparate
departments,
funding,
et
cetera,
I'm
seeing
the
common
theme
you
mentioned,
for
example,
that
people
prefer
peer
outreach
if
teens
are
possibly
security
guards
versus
a
police
intervention.
G
I've
heard
chief
palmer
talk
about
the
importance
of
things
like
expanding
project
link
to
keep
people
out
of
crisis,
more
the
mental
health
interventions,
and
then
we've
heard
a
bit
about
sort
of.
As
I
said
these
disconnect,
is
there
an
opportunity?
I
guess
two-part
question:
can
you
sort
of
finish
what
you're
starting
early
around?
What
you
envision
being
in
that
advocacy?
Ask
and
is
there
an
opportunity
to
synthesize
those
efforts
and
work
together
with
one
holistic
model
and
submission.
D
Thanks
for
the
question
yeah,
I
think
I
think
absolutely
there's,
there's
it's
critical
to
work
in
coordination
with
the
multiple
organizations
that
that
that
all
contribute
to
safety.
So
absolutely
I
would
agree
with
with
with
chief
palmer
that
that
type
of
coordination
and
collaboration
is
critical
in
terms
of
like
the
work
that
we
do
in
accs
around
the
social
determinants
of
health.
We
do
work
in
partnership
with
vch.
D
We
liaise
with
vpd
and
work
in
partnership
with
them
on
initiatives
with
various
ministries,
but
you
know
the
the
platform
for
that
type
of
coordinated,
that
coordinated
action
is
usually
some
type
of
strategy
or
policy.
We,
you
know
the
healthy
city
strategy
was
the
social
development
policy
for
the
city.
It's
it's.
We
do
need
to
update
it.
D
That's
a
critical
piece
that
and
and
to
take
that
coordinated,
focused,
look
at
how
all
the
pieces
fit
together,
but
we
do
need
some
time
and
space
to
to
do
that
type
of
strategy
development.
If
I
were
to
identify
some
senior
government
advocacy
priorities
right
now,
based
on
the
work
we're
doing
in
accs
the
the
pieces
that
I'd
be
focusing
on
and
of
course
I'd
want
to
go
back
to
my
team
and
and
hear
more
from
them,
but
just
off
the
top
of
my
head,
it's
section
56
safe
supply
number
one.
D
We
need
that:
a
supportive
housing
strategy,
a
regional,
supportive
housing
strategy,
not
just
what's
happening
in
vancouver,
but
but
how
is
supportive,
housing
being
deployed
across
the
region
and
a
regional
homelessness
strategy?
D
I
think
we
need,
as
I
mentioned,
income
systems,
income
assistance
reform,
it's
absolutely
foundational
and
and
continued
intensified
support
for
vch
and
public
health
regions
around
mental
health
and
and
substance
use.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
come
to
the
top
of
my
mind.
Of
course,
I'd
like
to
consult
with
my
team
and-
and
I'm
sure
paul
has-
has-
has
his
thoughts
on
that
as
well.
G
G
So
given
the
severity
of
what
we're
seeing
playing
out
in
our
streets
because
of
those
gaps
for
people,
which
I
think
is
failing
them
as
well
as
creating
issues
for
residents
of
broadly
and
generally
across
the
city,
do
we
have
an
opportunity
to
advocate
or
act?
Sorry
expedite
the
advocacy
piece
at
a
high
level.
D
I
think
that
would
be
a
question
for
for
paul
and
the
cmo
to
speak
to
intergovernmental
relations.
Okay,.
C
So
thanks
counselor
for
the
question
I
mean
to
some
extent.
I
think
council
plays
a
big
role
in
that
as
well
in
terms
of
taking
positions.
A
lot
of
these
are
are
issues
that
are
the
subjects
of
ongoing
discussion
with
the
province
in
particular.
Now
so
it
may
be
that
that's
an
outcome
of
this
process
is,
is
there's
an
ask
or
or
a
position,
that's
formulated
by
council
that
we
would
then
kind
of
work
with
to
convey
to
the
province.
G
Thanks
paul,
that's
where
my
mind
is
going.
You
picked
up
on
that
okay
and
then
I'm
going
to
use
my
last
minute.
I
just
want
to
direct
a
question
to
a
meet
in
parks,
and
I
was
interested
why
you
didn't
put
encampments
more
front
and
center
since
that
such
a
has
such
public
safety
issues
both
for
people
in
the
camps
and
for
residents
and
surrounding
neighborhoods.
There
was
no
sort
of
visual
reference
to
that
in
your
presentation.
F
Yeah,
I
think
we
wanted
to
look
at
or
provide
an
overall
context
of
what
is
what
parks
is
doing,
and
I
think
I
really
want
to
speak
to
more
to
the
activation
piece.
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
bit
of
a
gap
that
we're
trying
to
build
on.
F
I
think
we
spoke
to
some
of
the
some
of
the
work
at
any
livingston
park
at
oppenheimer
park
and
and
they've
resulted
in
very
strong,
strong
results
with
community
engagement
and
positive
interactions,
and
I
think
I
didn't
want
to
bog
down
on
the
encampment
piece
alone,
because
even
at
the
encampment
at
crab
park,
we're
actually
seeing
quite
quite
a
bit
of
success
in
the
activation
piece
with
the
communication
with
with
the
people
at
the
park
as
well.
L
Thanks
very
much,
my
first
question
is
for
sandra
singh
and
arts,
culture
and
community
services.
You
talked
a
little
bit
in
your
presentation
about
the
washroom
initiative.
D
Well,
I
think
that
these
washroom
trailers
have
proven
to
evolve
into
really
important
social
service
hubs
that
have
provided
safe
space
for
community
members.
That
would
otherwise
not
have
access
to
washrooms
and
so
would
be
would
be,
would
be
using
alleyways
or
alcoves,
as
well
as
as
providing
a
safe
oversight
of
use,
as
well
as
connecting
to
health
and
services.
So
I
would
say
it's
they've
proven
to
be
really
important
in
terms
of,
and
also
for
safe
reporting
of
of
of
crime.
And
so
I
think
that
that
they've
turned
to
be.
L
Thanks,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
if
they're,
vulnerable
and
marginalized
people
that
are
served
by
these
washroom
trailers
or
that
we
we
want
to
see,
served
that
don't
feel
safe
because
of
crime
and
safety
that
had
has
happened
around
them.
I've
sent
this
question
in
before,
but
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
comment
on
that.
Sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
Yeah.
D
Sure
the
the
targets
for
the
washroom
trailer
are
our
communities
that
are
at
that
are
at
risk
and
so
we're
really
focusing
sex
workers,
though
you
know
the
washroom
trailer
the
story
as
well.
There
around
the
the
community.
There.
L
Not
asking
for
specific
numbers
just
wondered
if
there
have
been
you
know,
regular
incidents
of
crime,
or
you
know,
question
questionable.
You
know
activities
that
that
you
know
would
would
go
to
put
the
people
who
were
using
them
at
risk.
Well,.
I
Historically,
these
populations
that
sanderson
mentioned
are
are
at
risk
and
and
are
at
that
risk
of
victimization,
so
sex
workers,
for
example.
We
can't
forget
the
missing
and
murdered
women,
so
the
the
idea
of
having
a
safe
space
to
go,
that's
monitored
by
people
that
they
trust
is
hugely
important.
I
totally.
L
That's
good
to
know:
can
I
also
ask
just
like
long-term
outcomes
and
this
question
for
you
as
well,
or
your
team
sandra
I'm
wondering.
L
Can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
long-term
outcomes
of
people
who've
moved
into
the
social
housing
facilities
that
are,
you
know
sponsored
by
you,
know
the
city
and
that
you,
your
you
and
your
team
work
with
like
how
many
of
these
people
you
know
manage
to
find
employment
or
be
a
part
of
a
social
enterprise
or
are
able
to
maybe
even
eventually
move
back
into
market
housing.
D
I'll
ask
celine
mobilist
our
managing
director
of
housing
and
homelessness
services
who's
on
webex
to
to
to
start
a
response
to
that,
and
I
do
know
that
bc
housing
has
additional
data
that
we
can
tap
into
and
get
to
you
after
this.
So
celine.
B
Hi
good
evening,
everyone
celine
mobilis,
managing
director
of
housing
and
homelessness
services.
We
know
that
safe,
secure.
C
As
well,
we've
done
quite
a
bit
of
research
with
bc
housing
on
the
impacts
of
supportive
housing
and
have
shown-
and
I
don't
have
the
exact
stats
in
front
of
me.
I
think
it
was
actually
in
the
slide
deck
that
sandra
presented,
but
we
know
that
in
terms
of
general.
B
Health
and
well-being,
improved
connections
to
education
and
employment.
C
B
I
can
send
the
link
to
the
the
research
report
that
was
done.
D
Thanks
so
much
counselor,
sorry,
if
I
could
just
correct
one
response,
we
were
aware
of
some
challenges
at
one
of
the
washroom
trailer
sites
and
we
worked
in
partnership
with
the
operator
and
liaised
with
with
vpd
around
that
around
that
site.
L
Great
thanks
so
much
I
had
a
question
for
parks.
Maybe
if
we
have
more
questions
later
on
after
speakers,
I'll
just
put
it
out
there,
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
tell
me
how
many
interactions
has
there
have
there
been
where
park
rangers
have
had
to
call
the
police
annually?
Do
you
have
a
figure
on
that.
F
A
Council
car
five
minutes,
yeah.
K
Great,
rather
than
go
to
margaret
wiggins
questions
got
answered
because
counselor
we
picked
up
my
train
of
questioning,
so
I
feel
confident
in
the
information
that
you've
given.
So
I'd
like
to
turn
to
a
different
question
to
sandra
singh.
K
I
am
really
disturbed
by
the
increase
in
hate
crimes
and
racism-based
crimes,
but
no
one
tonight
has
talked
about
the
role
of
social
media
in
this,
and
I'm
just
wondering
and
the
role
social
media
in
general
in
terms
of
public
safety
is
increasingly
being
blamed
as
a
as
as
a
factor
in
the
increase
in
hate
crimes.
So
I'm
wondering
what
is
it
that
we
could
do
as
a
city
to
kind
of
counter
the
social
media
divisiveness
that
is
at
the
root
of
a
lot
of
the
hate
crimes.
D
Yeah,
I
think
it's
it's
an
interesting
question
counselor,
because
I
think
we're
seeing
increasing
polarization
and
divisiveness
across
many
different
platforms
of
communication
and
engagement,
social
media
being
one
that
and
the
internet
being
one
that
is
very
accessible,
very
wide-reaching
and
and
emboldening
in
in
many
ways
and
kind
of
you
know
being
coming
from
the
public
libraries
and
watching
this
watching
this
transition
over
decades.
D
I
actually
worked
in
a
dot-com
in
a
social
media
community
at
the
turn
of
the
century,
to
say
that,
and
it's
been
it's
been
a
profound
change
from
the
type
of
dialogue
and
community
at
that
time.
To
that
we
were
building
there
to
what
you
see
now,
I
think,
from
from
the
city
point
of
view.
Certainly
you
know
public
campaigns,
public
awareness
campaigns
are
really
important.
D
The
the
ministry
of
the
attorney
general
in
their
multicultural
multiculturalism
and
anti-racism
branch
is
doing
some
really
interesting
work
and
good
work
around
anti-racism,
including
looking
at
implementing
provincial
reporting
options
for
folks,
safe
reporting,
and
so
I
think,
staying
connected
with
the
province
and
at
our
own
level,
looking
at
what
we
can
do
as
a
city
and
what
we
in
our
own
services,
as
well
as
as
well
as
public
kind
of
public
promotion,
mary
claire,
is
there
anything
else,
that's
yeah!
That's
it
thanks.
K
I
think,
as
many
as
many
as
many
events
as
we
can
have
that
bring
people
together
and,
and
I
think,
foster,
yeah,
a
greater
public
understanding
and
and
actually
appreciation
and
joy,
yeah
absolute
differences
between
people
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
have
one
question
for
chief
palmer,
you
talked
about
the
car
8788
and
mentioned
a
reduction
in
incidents
by
something
like
50
to
60
percent.
K
Due
to
intervention,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
kind
of
incidents
that
you
are
referring
to
and
what
the
plans
are
of
vpd
in
terms
of
expanding
sort
of
alternative
approaches
to
resolving
conflicts
like
car
8788.
J
Right,
so
thank
you
for
the
question.
Car
87
car
88
doesn't
result
in
a
reduction
in
incidents.
The
programs
that
result
in
the
reduction
in
incidence
of
50
for
police
calls
for
service
and
60
for
emergency
room
visits
are
the
act
in
the
aot
programs,
which
are
the
proactive
programs,
whereas
car
87
car
88
are
reactive
programs,
so
somebody's
already
in
crisis
and
I'll
go
back
to
my
left
of
crisis.
Right
of
crisis
act
and
aot
are
left
of
crisis.
J
They're
proactive,
they're
dealing
with
people
in
the
community
before
they
decompensate
before
they
get
into
trouble
and
we're
able
to
track
that
cohort
of
people
and
see
the
number
of
visits
they
had.
Post,
invo
or
pre-involvement
in
the
program
post-involvement
in
the
program
and
vpd
and
coastal
health
have
shared
data
on
that
through
a
data
sharing
agreement
and
we've
seen
incredible
results,
but
87.88
would
be
after
somebody's
already
in
crisis
and
then
we're
responding.
J
Sure
act
and
aot
actually
do
a
lot
so
act
as
sort
of
community
treatment
aot
as
a
sort
of
outreach
teams
both
of
those
are
proactive
and
that
act
will
provide
wrap-around
services,
so
it
will
include
housing.
Counseling
different
ministries
are
involved
with
health
with
police,
who
are
part
of
the
team
as
well,
and
we
look
at
a
plan
for
that
person
like
it's
almost
like
you
consider
when
you
go
to
a
doctor
and
you've
got
a
health
issue
and
the
doctor
looks
at
you
and
comes
up
with
a
plan
for
you.
J
J
Hospital
visits,
police
calls
for
service
and
we
visit
them
proactively
in
the
community,
knowing
that
they
have
mental
health
issues,
they
haven't
got
to
the
point
of
decompensating
where
they
become
the
subject
of
a
9-1-1
call,
but
we
visit
them.
You
know
in
their
sro
in
their
residence
it
could
be
under
a
bridge.
It
could
be
anywhere
we'll
visit
people
proactively,
a
police
officer
in
plain
clothes
low-key.
J
Sometimes
they
don't
even
know
they're
a
police
officer
with
a
psych
nurse,
usually
and
we'll
check
in
on
that
person,
we'll
see
how
they're
doing
and
maybe
they've
missed
a
visit
to
the
strathcona
mental
health
clinic.
Maybe
we
have
information
they're
off
their
medication,
but
we
do
an
assessment
right
there
and
see.
Do
they
need
medication?
Do
we
need
to
take
them
to
the
clinic?
Do
we
need
to
take
them
to
hospital?
A
Thank
you,
council.
We're
we're
still
a
ton
of
speakers
waiting
to
get
on
I'll,
just
remind
you,
as
we're
kind
of
getting
to
the
last
of
our
second
round
of
questions.
Counselor
weave.
O
Okay,
I'll
follow
up
on
that
homer.
If
you
want
to
stay
there,
please
out
the
preventative,
stuff's
really
important
to
me,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
much
of
our
budget
are.
We
spending
preventative
versus
reactionary
and
is
that
seeing
the
same
increases
over
the
last
couple
years,
recognizing
crisis
as
we
do
face
in
the
city.
J
Right,
I
don't
have
that
breakdown
for
you
and
I'll
say.
As
far
as
our
budget,
it's
been
20
to
21
of
the
city
budget
going
back
over
three
decades.
No
I'm
talking
about.
I
don't
know
what
it
is
to
break
down,
though
right
now
I
couldn't
tell
you
between
proactive
and
reactive.
O
Okay
and
recognizing
that
somebody's
reactive
can
be
a
good
business
strategy
and
we've
seen
the
peer
action
crisis
teams
in
north
shore
and
newest
minister
really
reduce
the
burden
on
some
of
the
police.
Calls
are
those
the
type
of
things
you
think
would
help
make
sure
that
you're
able
to
get
to
the
calls
as
quickly
response
times
as
quickly
as
we
want
and
deal
with
the
police
services.
You
want
to
see
your
police
officers
at.
J
Well,
those
are
the
things
that
we're
already
doing
in
vancouver
and
those
are
the
things
that
those
other
jurisdictions
have
actually
taken
the
ideas
from
vancouver.
So
a
lot
of
those
programs
you're
talking
about
that
reduce
the
calls
for
service
for
police
and
health
care.
Those
are
the
ones
that
we
piloted
in
vancouver
a
long
time
ago
that
we
started
here
first,
okay,
so
we're
doing.
O
That
thank
you.
My
next
question
is
to
sandra
and
the
team.
Some
of
these
numbers
are
really
hard
to
see.
I
mean
not
sorry
they're
easy
to
see,
but
they're
disturbing
the
2100
plus
new
outreach
visits
right-
and
I
was
just
with
the
greater
food
bank
they're,
seeing
over
a
dozen
new
people,
show
up
to
register
for
the
food
bank.
So
these
are
really
difficult
and
it
seems
to
not
be
a
good
trend.
How
do
we
one
start
to
deal
with
this
trend
and
how
do
we
show
this
to
the
public?
O
D
So
the
the
healthy
city
dashboard
is
an
is
an
active
dashboard
that
in
fact,
just
actually
received
some
updates
with
with
disaggregated
data.
So
if
you
haven't
gone
in
to
look
at
it,
it's
pretty
it's
it's
even
more
impressive
and
the
the
dashboard
will
be
updated
with
the
with
as
the
new
census
data
is
released,
and
it
will
enable
us
to
track
that-
and
I
think
these
are.
These-
are
really
it's
really
important
data
to
to
inform
our
discussions
with
senior
government
and
as
well.
D
It
informs
the
social
policy
team
and
the
homelessness,
the
housing
and
homelessness
services
team.
When
we
do
grant
reviews
and
look
at
and
look
at
grant
recommendations,
and
so
they
we
really
do
and
we
and
we
this.
This
social
data
also
informs
our
input
into
plans
like
the
vancouver
plan
and
the
capital
plan,
and
so.
O
O
The
trends
see
where
it's
best
to
spend
money
for
public
safety,
and
so
I'd
be
great
to
have
those
numbers
in
a
public
setting
and
to
really
have
some
of
those
social
determinations
of
health,
because
I
think
they
are
really
important
and
when
the
public
starts
to
hear
that
their
neighbors
and
colleagues
over
a
dozen
a
day
are
starting
to
sign
up
for
the
food
bank.
That
really
kind
of
hits
a
home
that
this
is
a
really
important
issue
in
the
city.
To
start
supporting.
So
it's
gonna
be.
A
It
counselor
dominato.
C
I'll
wait
to
come
up
well,
a
little
preamble
to
my
one
question,
but
recognizing
we're
hearing
from
all
the
different
agencies
and
partners
that
the
issue
of
public
safety
and
people's
sense
of
security
and
safety
is
complex.
There's.
P
C
Myriad
of
factors
involved
and-
and
there
are
people
who
are
deeply
concerned
about
public
safety
and
their
well-being
and,
at
the
same
time,
are
naturally
demanding
action
and
accountability
from
the
city,
and
I
say
that
largely
collectively
the
city
you've
been
doing
this
a
long
time.
What
would
be
your
advice
be
to
us
because
I
think
at
times
many
of
us
feel
helpless.
We
we
see
this
going
on.
C
We
have
to
share
the
concerns,
but
what
would
your
advice
be
to
us
as
a
council
in
terms
of
things
that
we
could
focus
on
that
are
squarely
in
our
sort
of
lane
in
terms
of
the
city,
things
that
are
within
our
control?
If
you
like,
controllables
and
things
that
you
think
we
should
continue
to
advocate
for
to
maybe
other
levels
of
government?
D
J
It
is
a
big
question.
We
could
talk
about
that
for
a
long
period
of
time,
but
I
think
I'll
boil
it
I'll,
try
and
boil
it
down
to
a
fairly
simple
answer.
I
will
say
that
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
what
our
different
responsibilities
are
in
life
and
government
in
our
place
and
and
what
we're
doing
here.
So,
I
think
at
the
city
when
we're
looking
at
core
and
essential
services.
I
think
you
know,
community
services
is
important.
The
fire
department's
important
police
is
important.
Engineering
is
important.
J
Street
cleaning
is
important,
policing,
public
safety,
all
those
things
are
very
important.
The
province
does
some
amazing
work
too,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
important
entities
that
are
outside
of
the
civic
purview,
but
have
a
huge
impact
on
the
civic
purview.
J
I
I
would
say
the
one
area
in
government
like,
as
far
as
advocating
for
more
help
more
resources
and
really
supporting,
would
be
vancouver
coastal
health
and
like
when
I
was
listening
to
my
colleague
sandra
singh.
Talking
earlier,
like
I
agreed
with
the
things
she
was
talking
about
when
we're
talking
about
important
things
like
safe
supply,
supportive
housing,
complex
housing,
dealing
with
wholeness
issues
dealing
with
mental
health
supports
vancouver.
J
Coastal
health
has
their
finger
in
all
of
those
pies,
and
they
are
stretched
so
thin
and
that
health
authority
is
also
trying
to
deal
with
people
with
heart
attacks
and
broken
legs
and
cancer,
and,
like
my
goodness,
like
that,
entity
has
pulled
in
every
different
direction
but
sunday
and
they
need
help
and
it
will
ultimately
help
us.
So
I
think
coastal
health.
We
need
to
support
them.
100
percent.
That
and
that's
you
know
all
the
things
I've
seen
over
the
years.
J
C
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
I
recognize
probably
do
this
for
hours,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
people
waiting
to
speak.
So,
yes,.
J
M
And
I'll
try
and
keep
you
pretty
quick,
sorry,
chief,
it's
for
you,
sorry
and-
and
I
want
to
you-
know
kind
of
end
this
on
a
bit
of
a
high
note,
because
I
think
you
I
heard
you
say
that
you're
predicting
that
violent
crimes
are
gonna,
start
declining
and-
and
I
and
I
googled
you
know,
obviously
I'm
assuming
in
the
context
of
the
pandemic
and
I
was
googling
pandemic,
increased
violent
crime
and
it
seems
that
this
is
kind
of
a
trend
all
over
the
place
and
it's
especially
hitting
low-income
communities.
M
J
Well,
one
thing:
I've
seen
too
it's
just
a
lot
more
tension
in
society
like
if
people
I
think,
are
feeling
more
anxiety.
I
think
you
know
mental
health
issues.
Anxiousness
people
have
been
cooped
up,
people
don't
have
access
to
all
the
same
resources
and
supports
with
family
and
other
mechanisms
they
may
have
had
before.
There's
more
isolation,
there's
more
opportunity
as
well
for
people
that
are
of
a
criminal
mind
because
there's
you
know
less
people
out
on
the
streets
and
people
can.
You
know
perhaps
think
that
they
can
get
away
with
things.
J
I
I
do
anticipate
like,
as
the
pandemic
starts
to
wind
down
a
bit.
We
will
see
more
of
a
leveling
towards
traditional
crime
statistics,
but
you
know
the
thing
that
I
will
say
on
that
is:
every
year
you
look
at
crime,
you're
gonna,
see
up
or
down
a
few
percent
up
or
down
a
few
percent
property
crime,
violent
crime.
That
will
continue.
J
I
think
you
know
the
the
important
thing
is
to
have
really
good
systems
in
place
where
you're
dealing
with
root
causes,
but
when
you're
dealing
with
the
actual
crime,
when
it's
being
committed,
know
where
it's
being
committed,
what
types
of
crime
and
have
good
plans
to
address
it,
that's
where
the
analytics
are
really
key,
and
you
dig
into
the
details,
not
just
this
broad
category,
violent
crime,
property
crime,
but
get
into
the
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
it
is
it
sexual
assaults?
Is
it
stranger
attacks?
Is
it
violent
shoplifters?
J
Is
it
people
breaking
into
honda
civics
like
whatever
it
is?
We
can
do
all
that
kind
of
work.
We
have
that
ability
and
that's
where
we're
really
good
at
surgically
attacking
those
types
of
crime,
pockets
of
crime
when
they
come
up
in
our
city.
J
M
J
A
Okay,
thank
you,
council.
That's
it
for
questions
to
staff.
Now
we're
going
to
start
in
on
speakers.
We
have
for
corner
procedure,
counselor
diginova.
L
My
question
is,
and
I'm
trying
to
pull
up
the
procedural
bylaw,
but
I
I
know
that
we
will
have
a
number
of
speakers
and
that
there
have
been
some
interruptions
and
I
was
just
hoping
to
ask
you
the
question:
if,
if,
if
that's
something
you're
gonna
address
as
the
interruptions
happen
or
if
you
could
possibly
caution
the
gallery.
A
Okay.
The
first
speaker
is
caitlin
etherington.
A
Thanks,
you
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
speak
to
council
thanks
so
much
for
calling
in
tonight.
N
Great,
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
my
name
is
caitlin
otherington
and
I'm
one
of
the
operations
directors
for
vancouver
coastal
health,
and
I
need
to
take
a
moment
of
our
five
minutes
to
just
thank
all
of
our
colleagues
and
partners
who
have
been
presenting
this
evening
on
all
of
their
collaboration
and
hard
work.
It's
been
really
interesting.
Listening
in
I'm
here
today
with
miranda
compton
who's
on
the
phone
and
dr
sedu
who's
in
person
and
on
the
is
our
slide
up.
Is
our
intro
slide
up.
A
N
N
So
so
they're
going
to
be
speaking
to
some
of
the
services
that
we
either
have
in
place
or
coming
online
soon
in
vancouver
that
aim
to
address
the
unmet
health
needs
of
our
community,
but
as
we
do
that,
I
do
want
to
just
reflect
on
some
actually
recent
comments
that
were
made
by
the
chief
and
by
councillor
frye
about
our
place
in
the
system
in
healthcare
and
just
confirm
we're
definitely
seeing
pandemic
related
rise
in
mental
health
concerns,
and
we
see
that
in
who's
coming
into
the
hospital
and
how
they're
presenting
and
how
many
people
are
coming
into
hospital,
and
I
think
it
really
makes
sense
that
that's
also
manifesting
and
what
we're
hearing
from
community
members
about
what
they're
seeing
on
the
street.
N
So
that's
that's
a
real
thing.
That's
that's
coming
up
in
our
healthcare
system
right
now,
in
vancouver
and
beyond
for
sure,
and
we
also
want
to
just
caveat
the
reason
we're
speaking
to
certain
programs,
certain
healthcare
programs
tonight
that
are
outlined
on
the
next
slide
before
we
get
into
them
within
the
context
of
this
evening,
which
is
really
dedicated
to
violence.
N
Prevention
it'll
be
super
clear
that
our
mandate
in
health,
specifically
in
community
services
outside
of
the
hospital,
is
to
support
people
with
moderate,
to
severe
mental
health
and
substitutes
or
chronic
diseases,
and
those
folks
are
significantly
more
likely
to
experience
violence
than
to
perpetrate
it.
So
our
focus
at
vancouver
coastal
health
for
these
programs
is
to
do
a
better
and
better
job,
supporting
the
wellness
of
these
community
members
to
keep
them
safe,
also,
understanding
and
not
wanting
to
undermine
the
reality
that
at
times,
people
with
unmet
health
needs.
N
But
we
do
need
to
highlight
that
our
programs
and
talking
about
them
tonight
are
really
not
about
equating
mental
health
substance
use
or
homelessness
with
violence.
And
it's
really
about
keeping
all
of
us,
including
people
who
are
experiencing
those
issues
well
in
faith.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
pass
it
over
to
miranda
and
ask
you
to
switch
to
our
next
slide
to
walk
through
some
of
our
community
programs
before
dr
sidhu
comes
home
thanks
caitlin,
and
thank
you
mayor
and
council
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
slide
here.
N
You
can
see
some
of
the
key
components
of
the
work
on
the
ground
that
we
are
undertaking
to
reach
those
who
need
our
services,
the
most
so
vch
works
with
many
partners
to
build,
to
build
out
and
strengthen
our
mental
health
and
substance
use
system
of
care.
This
includes
includes
working
on
our
continuum
of
care
across
the
spectrum,
from
prevention
and
early
intervention
strategies
to
address
the
toxic
drug
supply,
clinical
and
wellness
supports
and
initiatives
to
support
long-term
recovery
and
we've
had
some
significant
new
investments
over
the
past
year
towards
our
efforts.
N
These
are
being
geared
towards
expanding
our
outreach
capacity
and
our
primary
care
site
and
embedding
clinical
services
in
our
new
housing
and
shelters,
building
up
outreach
teams
to
provide
on
the
ground
support
to
link
people
to
the
services.
They
need
increasing
our
capacity
for
withdrawal,
management
and
treatment
and
ensuring
robust
supports
for
the
people
in
our
community
who
are
precariously
housed
through
new
homeless
investments
and
complex
care,
housing
initiatives,
and
we're
really
grateful
that
the
city
passed
a
motion
with
unanimous
support
for
our
plans
for
a
recovery
community
center
at
yesterday's
council
meeting.
Q
Thanks
caitlin
and
miranda
again,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
having
us
participate
vch
is
very
happy
to
be
at
this
table
and
be
part
of
this
conversation.
Health,
as
you
know,
transcends
every
aspect
of
our
lives.
I'm
a
psychiatrist.
I
work
at
vgh
on
the
medical
and
surgical
units,
because
mental
health
transcends
every
domain
of
health
care.
Q
You
know
I
was
going
to
speak
in
some
specific
examples
of
how
we
are
working
in
the
community
with
our
police
partners
but
doctor,
sorry,
chief
palmer,
he
stole
my
thunder
and
but
he
and
it
did
a
very
excellent
job
at
doing
so.
Thank
you
mike.
Q
Did
an
excellent
job
and
you
can
move
this
one
yeah.
Okay
thanks,
he
did
an
excellent
job
at
doing
so
in
describing
the
assertive
outreach
team,
the
assertive
community
treatment
team
and
car
87
and
car
88.
I
do
want
to
say
that
we
cannot
do
our
work
without
that
partnership.
Q
The
the
officers
that
work
on
those
teams
work
closely
with
our
our
nurses
and
our
clinicians
and
our
physicians.
We
go
into
very,
very
interesting
situations
at
times,
but
with
the
utmost
of
attention
to
trauma-informed
practice
to
interactions
that
we
know
could
be
potentially
traumatizing.
Q
The
the
police
that
are
involved
in
these
situations
are
excellent,
incredibly
thoughtful
and
nuanced
in
those
situations.
So
we
need
more
of
that
and
I
you
know
when
it
comes
to
the
dashboards
and
all
of
us
look
at
different
dashboards
with
respect
to
metrics
the
the
metrics
that
we
look
at
with
respect
to
aot
and
act
are
some
of
the
most
impressive
that
I've
seen
right
across
the
board.
Q
We
see
reductions
in,
as
chief
palmer
mentioned,
er
visits
days
in
hospital,
violent
crimes,
negative
interactions
with
police,
criminal
justice
interactions,
so
really
a
really
important
partnership.
We
have
with
the
vpd
again.
I
am
incredibly
grateful
to
be
here.
I
know
I
speak
for
miranda
and
caitlyn
in
that
way
as
well.
It's
been
very
helpful
to
hear
the
the
comments
so
far
and
I
we
look
forward
to
the
discussion
too.
That's
going
to
ensue
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
so
much
is
that
it
for
the
the
pan,
the
crew
from
uch,
great
okay,
a
counselor.
We
have
a
question
up
to
three
minutes.
O
Yeah
and
I'll
keep
it
quick,
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
well-being.
It
would
be
great
to
have
as
many
of
those
indicators
that
you're
looking
at
as
we
try
to
tackle
this
issue
collectively
and
create
the
holistic
plan.
So
I'm
wondering,
would
you
be
open
to
working
with
our
staff
on
putting
together
those
social
determinations
of
health
and
well-being?
N
This
is
miranda
I'll,
just
say.
A
N
I
mean
we're
we're
pleased
to
work
on
on
this.
I
think
we,
we
do
have
quite
a
bit
of
work
underway
with
our
population
health,
under
public
health,
here
on
the
healthy
city
strategy,
where
we
look
at
a
lot
of
these
determinants
of
health,
but
always
looking
for
other
partnerships.
As
we
know,
this
is
this.
Is
that
the
is
fundamental
to
everything
that
we
do
is
ensuring
that
everyone
has
equitable
access
to
these
determinants
of
health.
O
Okay
and
then
for
one
last
question,
really
determining
kind
of
what
the
plan
is
for
the
next
three
five
years.
How
do
we
can
you
talk
about
your
plan
for
more
recovery
beds,
more
funding
and
where
the
gaps
might
be
that
the
city
can
help
support?
O
N
Facts,
this
is
miranda
again
I'll.
Just
take
the
first
crack
of
this.
Yes
we're
I
mean,
for
you
mentioned
first
and
clark,
and
this
is
such
an
important
project
for
us.
You
know
we're
eager
to
see
groundbreaking
on
on
that
site,
because
you
know
it's
going
to
be
a
transformational
site
for
our
withdrawal
management
program,
and
you
know
we're
really.
You
know
our
big
focus
is
to
build
out
the
continuum
of
of
services.
N
So
it's
it's
yes,
beds
are
important,
but
the
whole
system
around
it
are
equally
important,
so
ensuring
that
we
have
really
great
clinical
supports
to
to
really
assess
people
and
make
sure
that
you
know
a
withdrawal
management
bed
is
the
right
option
for
them
and
there's
many
opportunities
for
outpatient
treatment
and
and
other
supports
that
that
we
can
connect
people
with
and
then
also
crucially,
supporting
people
as
they're
transitioning
out
of
a
withdrawal
management
program.
So
we
have
some
new
investments
from
the
ministry
towards
stabilization
beds.
N
The
planning
for
that
is
in
the
works,
and
so
you
know
just
advocating
with
us
for
yeah
additional
investments
in
substance
use
and
addiction
services
is
always
helpful,
but
just
really
helping
to
advocate
for
a
continuum
of
services
that
it's
not
about
one
any
one
part
of
the
continuum.
But
we
need
the
whole
spectrum.
A
G
Yeah
thanks.
I
have
one
question
for
doctors
to
do
that.
I
want
to
zero
in
on,
and
that
was
really
when
you
said-
and
I
think
I
quote,
lynch
almost
is
that
we
cannot
do
our
work
without
the
vpd
and
how
valuable
this
partnership
is.
So
what
we
hear
all
the
time
is
just
send
a
social
worker
instead
or
a
social
service
type
of
individual,
that's
trained,
because
we
don't
want
a
police
response.
Q
Yeah,
that's
a
good,
it's
a
really
good
question
and
I
should
also
say
there's
a
spectrum
of
individuals
that
we're
interfacing
with
on
these
teams,
and
sometimes
maybe
a
social
worker
would
feel
very
comfortable.
I've
told
my
social
worker
colleagues
and
they
know
the
clientele
many
many
of
the
clientele
that
we
do
see
in
hospital
and
these
individuals
are
some
of
the
most
ill
from
the
perspective
of
psychopathology
concurrent
disorders.
Q
What
not
and
some
of
those
situations
can
be
challenging
to
maintain
one's
own
safety
from
a
healthcare
provider
perspective
you're
meeting
these
people
on
the
streets,
sometimes
in
alleys,
sometimes
in
sros,
in
unpredictable
scenarios,
so
that
when
I,
when
I've
spoken
to
those
working
on
these
services
and
I've,
I've
asked
them
point
blank.
This
quote
these
questions,
and
they
they
have
told
me
themselves
that
they
did
not
feel
that
they
could
complete
their
jobs,
because
you
can't
really
predict
what
kind
of
scenario
you're
going
to
go
into.
Q
I
think
you
probably
saw
yourself
play
the
relationship
and
how
the
police
and
and
and
the
clinicians
interface
with
one
another
in
these
scenarios.
G
So,
in
a
situation
where
you're
dealing
with
those
particularly
challenging
cases
with
people's
very
complex
problems
in
the
event
that
we
followed,
what
we
hear
a
lot
in
from
sort
of
various
advocacy
groups,
and
would
those
people
just
not
receive
a
response,
then,
because
some
of
your
staff
would
just
feel
unable
or
unsafe
and
going.
Q
I'm
not
aware
of
any
scenario
where
we
needed
to
attend
to
where
we
didn't
attempt
in
some
way
or
interface.
In
some
way,
not
all
people
need
the
the
service
of
aot
or
act.
I
can
highlight
another
service
that
we
have,
that.
I
think
everybody
in
the
city
should
know
about
that's
the
assessment
and
treatment,
access
and
assessment
and
access
center
at
vgh
and
essentially
that's
a
seven
day
a
week,
urgent
care
clinic
for
mental
health.
Q
I
think
somebody
did
ask
a
question
earlier
in
the
evening
about:
do
we
have
any
innovative
strategy?
Should
we
looking
elsewhere,
we
have
we
but
and
when
we
continue
to
do
so,
but
people
look
at
us
as
well.
This
was
one
of
the
first
clinics
in
western
canada,
of
its
make
where
we
had
an
urgent
care
clinic
specifically
for
mental
health,
and
at
this
point,
people
they're
getting
200
calls
per
day
many
walk-ins
per
day.
Q
In
the
past,
the
only
entry
into
the
mental
health
system
was
through
the
emergency
room,
which
could
be
a
chaotic
and
traumatic
experience.
So
we
do.
We
do
have
that
service
where
people,
patients
or
clients
can
call
a
walk-in
they
can
phone
in
client
family
members
can
call
on
their
behalf
as
well.
L
Q
So
so
just
to
clarify
you're
speaking
about
act
or
aot
when
they,
dr.
L
Q
Yeah
many
and
I
should
qualify
that
many
many
of
our
our
clinicians
do
attend
homes
and
attend
clients
in
the
community.
Without
the
police,
for
example,
we
have
multiple
mental
health
teams
and
clinicians
and
physicians
do
go
into
the
homes
at
the
invitation
of
clients
and
whatnot
and
they're,
seeing
them
without
police.
So
really
the
the
individuals
that
are
attached
to
the
act
service,
for
example,
are
some
of
the
most
more
complex
individuals
from
the
perspective
of
psychopathology.
Q
They
might
have
forensic
overlay,
there
might
be
stimulant
stimulant,
use
going
on,
which
can
cause
be
a
an
unpredictable
variable.
That's
one!
That's
one
element
that
can
destabilize
the
situation
quite
quickly,
so
having
that
backup
from
the
police
in
those
situations
is
important,
I
I
will
say
as
a
as
one
step
back,
you
know.
Vch
and
smaller
organizations
are
quite
large
and
I
would
say
in
our
organization
much
of
what
that
happens.
Q
That
is
good
happens
because
of
good
relationship
right
and-
and
that's
very
true,
with
our
partnership
with
the
vpd
as
well.
So
it's
bi-directional
exchange.
It's
growth,
it's
evolution!
It's
understanding!
It's
it's!
You
know
the
the
folks
that
work
from
the
vpd
with
our
healthcare
providers-
you,
I
think
I
think
they
would
say
that
they've
learned
quite
a
bit
from
our
our
staff,
who
are
experts,
they're,
they're,
top
notch.
Q
A
Thank
you
thanks
very
much
presentation.
Next,
the
public
body
representative
is
michael
tan
from
the
chinatown
legacy
stewardship
group.
R
Evening
marine
council
hi,
my
name
is
michael
tan.
I
am
speaking
tonight
as
the
co-chair
for
the
vancouver
chinatown
legacy
stewardship
group
as
a
reminder
of
mayor
and
council
that
the
lsg
was
first
formed
as
a
part
of
the
city
of
vancouver's
apology
to
the
chinatown
community
for
its
role
for
the
city's
role
in
the
historical
discrimination
against
chinese
people.
The
lsg
is
a
32-member
council
appointed
by
this
council,
a
group
of
a
diverse
range
of
individuals
and
organizations
in
chinatown.
R
We
bring
their
various
perspectives,
ranging
from
business
owners,
community
and
cultural
organizations,
bia
and
individuals
who
care
about
the
neighborhood
and
its
cultural
heritage.
The
lsu
was
pointed
to
specifically
advise
city
council,
council
and
staff
on
policy
and
actions
to
support
chinatown
as
a
whole
and
towards
a
possible
unesco
world
heritage
site
designation.
R
As
a
part
of
that
mandate.
It
was
also
to
ensure
that
the
views
of
those
who
have
historically
been
and
continue
to
be
equity
denied,
including
seniors,
low-income
residents,
youth
artists,
non-english
speaking
residents.
Those
have
that
not
have
been
able
to
be
consulted
that
their
views
would
be
brought
to
the
table,
and
it's
through
that
lens
that
I
perform
my
duties
as
co-chair
of
the
lsg
and
how
I
address
marin
council
today.
R
People's
perceptions
of
safety
and
cleanliness
in
the
neighborhood
of
chinatown
is
a
significant
challenge
and
I
won't
reiterate
those
symptoms,
as
council
has
generally
been
very
much
engaged
with
the
community
and
neighborhood.
However,
many
of
the
members
of
the
chinatown
legacy
stewardship
group
see
an
increase
in
police
on
the
ground,
as
well
as
the
implementation
of
cctv
cameras
in
chinatown
as
ineffective
as
a
deterrent
against
vandalism
in
the
neighborhood.
R
Many
people
may
not
have
agreed
with
the
increased
presence
in
chinatown,
but
it
was
precipitated
by
actually
the
opening
of
the
chinatown
community
policing
center
on
panda
street
last
year.
But
you
know
some
were
very
hopeful
that
it
would
have
an
impact,
but
what
we
have
seen
is
that
there
has
not
been
an
a
decrease
in
vandalism,
since
that
opening
chief
palmer
mentioned
earlier
that
there
has
been
this
widely
viewed,
video
published
yesterday,
where
vandal
sawed
off
a
you
know.
R
This
golden
colored
wrought
iron
dragon,
and
you
know
what
the
context
is
that
dragon
was
actually
located
on
panda
street
about
50
meters
down
from
that
policing
center.
So
an
increased
police
presence
in
the
neighborhood
has
not
been
a
deterrent
for
vandalism,
and
you
heard
earlier
from
sandra
saying,
speak
to
the
multitude
of
social
programs
being
implemented
by
accs
to
address
the
many
issues
facing
the
neighborhood
of
chinatown
and
in
in
the
downtown
east
side,
and
I
bought
her
and
her
team's
work
and
it's
furthering
these
types
of
social
programs.
R
Along
with
you
know,
supportive
housing,
drug
addiction,
treatment
and
melting
mental
health
supports
that
will
truly
serve
to
address
the
people's
experiences
of
safety.
An
easily
overlooked
high
impact
program
is
these
mobile
bathroom
trailers?
You
know
you'll,
you
might
hear
some
others
talk
about.
You
know
just
well.
I
mean
I
think
we
hear
about
that
quite
often
in
the
neighborhood,
but
that
clean
access
to
a
bathroom
is
a
human
right
and
it's
a
matter
of
providing
dignity
for
those
residents
that
are
homeless.
R
Chief
palmer
mentioned
earlier.
How
40
of
the
calls
to
e-comm
in
the
vpd
non-police
non-emergency
line
are
not
being
answered.
I've
been
one
of
those
40
so
and
he's
spoken
about
how
the
bpd
and
police
are
being
asked
to
do
too
many
things.
So
I
support
his
call
for
more
funding
to
social
services
so
that
our
existing
police
officers
and
the
force
can
focus
on
where
they're
most
gravely
needed,
which
is
to
specifically
tackle
violent
crime.
R
Band-Aid
solutions
to
address
safety
and
cleanliness
in
chinatown
is
like
holding
up
a
tea
towel
to
this
broken
fire
hydrant.
You
know
we
need
significant
increases
to
these
social
programs
to
turn
off
that
fire
hydrant
and
to
coordinate
with
all
three
levels
of
government
that
include
attention
to
chinatown
and
the
downtown
eastside's
specific
needs.
R
L
L
Where
do
you
see
the
police's
role
in
working
with
chinatown?
And
you
know
your
group
is
one
stakeholder
in
combating
that
anti-asian
hate
that
we're
seeing
I
mean
we
were
recently
called
the
the
capital
in
north
america
and
that's
not
a
title
that
I
feel
proud
to
have
in
vancouver.
So
I'm
I'm
just
wondering
how
you
think
the
police
can
work
together
with
the
community
and
play
a
role
in
your
mind.
R
I
think
there
is
a
role
for
policing
and
and
to
work
with
the
community
and
with
the
other
cities
social
services,
to
ensure
that
there
is,
you
know
it
addresses
a
lot
of
these
these
issues
in
chinatown.
You
know,
for
example,
again
I
I
reiterate
and
highlight
the
need
for
these
mobile
trailer
washroom
trailers
in
chinatown.
You
know
you're
kind
of
like
walking
around
landmines,
sometimes
in
the
neighborhood,
and
you
know
again,
it's
you
know
it's
a
matter
of
cleanliness.
R
You
know
it's
also
about
programs
in
the
community
that
the
lsg-
and
you
know
many
of
its
members
and
groups.
You
know
which
have
many
stakeholders
continue
to
support
and
create.
You
know
last
year
with
the
fire
dragon
festival.
You
know-
and
you
know
things
coming
through
other
organizations
that
are
activating
the
neighborhood,
that
you
know
that
help
bring
people
down
to
chinatown
and
it's
that
increased
foot
traffic
that
I
think
will
really
help
to
alleviate
a
lot
of
help
address
some
of
these
issues
together.
L
What
do
you
say
to
someone
like,
for
instance,
in
in
one
of
the
presentations
we
received
from
accs
from
sandra
and
her
team
said
that
vulnerable
people,
including
homeless
people
as
vulnerable
and
marginalized
people,
are
more
likely,
seven
times
more
likely
to
be
victims
of
crime
and
violent
crime?
So
what
do
you
say
to
someone
who
doesn't
feel
safe
going
in
a
washroom
trailer
if
there
is
crime
and
and
issues
like
that
that
are
preventing
them?.
R
R
You
know
that
there's
support
you
know
could
be
lighting
could
be
just
people
in
general,
just
not
having
a
presence
when
there
is
people
around
and
there's
proper
facilities,
clean,
safe
as
well,
when
we're
talking
about
safety,
clean
facilities
that
are
possibly
not
neces
stationed
with
folks
to
to
be
there
that
that's
where
I
think
it
can
help
address
that
feeling
of
safety.
E
Thanks
and
and
I'll
also
just
echo
a
huge
thank
you
mike
for
being
here
and
for
the
leadership
that
you're
providing
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
particular
investments,
noting
the
the
significant
increase
in
anti-asian
hate
crimes,
which
is
a
of
course,
a
huge
and
horrifying
concern.
If
there
are
particular
priorities
or
investments
that
you
think
the
city
can
be
making,
whether
it's
from
arts,
culture
and
community
services
or
elsewhere
to
be
tackling
anti-asian
racism,
particularly
and
racism.
More
broadly
across
the
city.
R
You
know
that
one's
that
one's-
a
big
question
I
think
part
of
that
is
you
know
the
is
also
relating
to
providing
better
accessibility
for
the
reporting
of
hate
crimes
in
the
city,
a
lot
of
people
that
even
that
still
hesitate
to
report
these
crimes
is
because
they
feel
that
there's
they're
inadequately
addressed.
You
know,
I
think
again
that
speaks
to
you,
know
the
volume
of
calls
and
how
you
know
whatever
method
the
city-
and
you
know
what
the
police
chooses
to
address.
R
Those
are
they're
not
being
addressed
right
and
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
feel
like
it's
ineffective.
So
again,
I
echo
chief
palmer's
call
to
increase
support
for
social
programming.
So
that
way
we
can
let
the
police
focus
on
where
those
violent
crimes
are
taking
place,
whether
it's
for
asians,
against
asians
or
otherwise.
E
Okay,
appreciate
that
and
I'll
leave
it
there.
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
speakers,
but
thank
you
again
for
for
your
time.
M
Thanks
hi
michael
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
your
work
in
the
community,
and
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work
on
a
volunteer
basis,
so
it
is
appreciated.
M
You
may
have
heard
me
earlier:
ask
the
chief
about
a
vancouver
agreement
2.0
and
how
we
can
kind
of
coordinate
some
of
the
other
senior
levels
of
government
and
really
bring
it
all
together.
Are
you
is
that
is
that
happening?
Could
that
happen
more
in?
In
your
opinion,
based
on?
What's
happened,
you
know
the
lsg
and
the
ctt,
and
and
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
big
investments
and
there's
an
interest
in
a
unesco
bid
and
the
museum.
R
I
think
one
of
the
good
things
that
the
lsg
as
a
as
a
collaborative
group,
because
our
membership
spans,
you
know
a
very
again-
a
very
varied
and
diverse
set
of
organizations
and
individuals
across
the
board,
but
being
able
to
work
directly
in
with
an
integrated
way
with
city
staff
with
the
chinatown
transformation
team
has
really
enabled
us
to
move
very
quickly
in
the
neighborhood
on
a
number
of
areas
and
to
coordinate
across
those
varied
organizations
prior
to
the
establishment
of
the
lsg
in
2019,
when
we
were
first
appointed
to
council
or
by
council,
is
that
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
varied
organizations
that
were
either
working
independently.
R
You
know,
sometimes
they
were
consulted
by
by
council
and
staff.
You
know
many
groups
that
we're
not,
and
what
lsg
has
enabled
us
to
do
is
take
this
integrated
approach.
You
know
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
those
views,
that
of
those
that
have
been
marginalized
and
equity
denied
in
the
past,
and
continue
to
be
that
those
voices
could
be
heard
up
front
to
council
and
to
staff.
So
we
can
move
very
quickly
again
to
senior
level
other
levels
of
government.
I
think
everyone
has
more
work
to
do
there.
R
G
Thanks,
michael
I'll,
be
I'll,
be
quick.
Do
you
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
the
city
to
have
an
anti-hate
strategy?
Sorry.
R
I'd
be
curious
as
to
the
specific
aims,
and
you
know
what
the
the
measurable
outcomes
for
that
program
would
be,
but
I'd
be
very
interested
in
hearing
more
about
that.
G
A
I'm
gonna
have
to
ask
you
to
leave
the
gallery
and
we've
been.
You
know:
you've
been
kind
of
murmuring
all
the
way
through
and
I've
cautioned
you
a
number
of
times.
That's
fine
thanks
very
much.
I
think
you've
had
your
your
time
here
appreciate
you
coming
today,
but
I'm
going
to
have
to
ask
you
to
leave
the
ten
commandments.
You
gotta
like
repent,
like
it's
just
gonna,
get
worse.
There's
gonna,
be
counsel.
A
Might
be
a
good
time
for
for
a
break
council.
We're
we're
gonna,
take
a
break
for
ten
minutes.
C
You
but
look
what
you
did
to
my
shirt
the
last
time
I
was
here.
This
was
a
brag,
no
shirt,
and
this
is
what
you
got,
how
you.
G
Okay,
can
I
go
ahead
here.
D
G
Yeah,
so
just
picking
up
on
that,
you
we're
speaking
about
the
benefit
having
anti-hate
strategy
but
you're
talking
about
the
outcomes
being
really
important-
and
I
just
wondered
at
this
point
and
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
But
if
anything
does
come
to
mind,
is
it
something
that
you
would
see,
as
you
would
see,
is
important
in
terms
of
outcomes.
I'm.
R
Just
glad
I
had
a
time
out
to
think
of
a
response,
so
I
think
the
big
thing
for
any
type
of
anti
hate
crime
program
you
know
in
terms
of
an
outcome
would
be
it's
to
build
understanding
and
mutual
understanding
right
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot.
I
think
there
are
the
beginnings
of
some
of
these
programs
in
terms
of
taking
on
a
collaborative
approach
already
to
connect
people
from
different
neighborhoods,
and
you
know
different
demographics
to
help
build
that
understanding.
R
One
of
the
programs
underway
already
is
the
chinatown
community
stewardship
program.
You
know
it's
a
collaboration
between
the
city
and
ember's
east
side
works
which
hires
residents
from
the
downtown
eastside
community
to
support
cleaning
programs
in
chinatown
right,
and
so
you
know
this
program
has
been
very
well
received
and
in
the
neighborhood
and
the
feedback
that
we've
we've
gone
back
from.
That
is
like.
We
need
more
programs
like
that
to
build
that
understanding,
so
any
type
of
anti-hate
crime
initiative.
G
Okay,
we
did
have
a
motion,
we
discussed,
I'm
gonna,
I
would
mind
sharing
with
you
and
I'll,
send
it
to
you
and
I'm
sure
council
will
welcome
any
comments.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
speaking
thanks
so
much
for
coming
in
tonight.
That's
it
for
questions
appreciate
it.
Thanks,
council,
we're
on
to
public
speakers.
Now
we
have
bridget
anderson
from
the
board
of
trade.
N
Thanks
very
much
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
I'm
bridget
anderson,
the
president
and
ceo
of
the
greater
vancouver
board
of
trade
and
I'm
speaking
to
you
today
from
the
traditional
territories
of
this
coast,
people
the.
N
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
very
important
topic.
The
board
of
trade
represents
5
500
members,
the
majority
of
which
are
small
and
medium
businesses,
and
for
months
now,
our
members
have
been
expressing
concerns
about
public
safety
and
the
impact
that
this
has
had
on
their
ability
to
run
their
businesses.
N
We
are
right
now
in
the
midst
of
surveying.
Our
members
and
early
data
suggests
that
crime
and
public
safety
is
ranked
the
fourth
most
significant
issue
facing
the
region
at
this
time,
and
this
is
ranked
among
many
other
issues,
including
pandemic
and
economic
issues
facing
businesses,
and
this
is
a
dramatic
jump
from
previous
surveys.
N
As
we
know,
the
pandemic
and
more
people
working
remotely
has
meant
reduced
foot
traffic
downtown,
which
has
been
hard
on
businesses,
and
many
many
businesses
are
still
struggling.
According
to
the
canadian
federation
of
independent
business,
two-thirds
of
bc
businesses
report
taking
on
debt
and
an
average
of
over
two
hundred
and
twenty-five
thousand
dollars
per
business.
N
Many
many
businesses,
as
we
have
heard,
have
noted
an
increase
in
crime,
including
theft
and
broken
windows.
Chief
palmer
stated
it
this
evening
that
an
average
of
four
people
each
day
are
victims
of
random
groundless
attacks.
N
N
We
had
the
board
of
trade
recognized
that
this
is
a
complex
issue
involving
mental
health,
homelessness,
the
opioid
crisis,
among
other
factors,
and
it's
clear
that
we
need
a
multi-pronged
solution
as
a
voice
for
the
vancouver
business
community.
We
have
clearly
heard
from
our
members
and
many
other
businesses
that
crime
is
not
only
costly
for
businesses.
N
N
N
The
board
of
trade
urges
the
city
to
take
urgent
action
and
to
work
with
other
levels
of
government
such
as
the
province
to
change
laws.
To
ensure
that
repeat,
offenders
are
up
the
streets.
It
is
clear
that
a
holistic
approach
to
mental
health
and
addiction
is
needed.
The
city
can
and
should
continue
to
call
on
the
province
to
wrap
around,
to
wrap
around
supports
and
new
housing
for
those
experiencing
homelessness.
N
N
We
support
efforts
to
bring
people
and
events
and
activations
back
to
the
downtown
core,
and
we
encourage
the
city
to
work
with
the
business
community
to
do
that.
And
finally,
we
encourage
the
city
to
continue
to
invest
in
core
services,
including
street
cleaning
and
graffiti
cleanup.
More
people
are
returning
to
the
office
tourism.
Returning
we
see
cruise
ships
in
our
region
as
well.
Now,
foot
traffic
is
increasing,
but
the
narrative
is
becoming
increasingly
negative.
Public
safety
is
a
critical
issue
for
businesses
for
individuals,
the
community
and
our
city's
reputation
and
action
is
needed
now.
A
N
A
Clerks,
maybe
we
can
come
back
and
I'll
move
to
the
next
speaker.
We
have
royce
sorry
ahead
of
my
glasses
on
twin.
P
P
More
than
11
million
people
visited
vancouver
in
2019
and
their
absence
over
the
past
two
years
was
catastrophic
for
many
local
businesses
and
for
the
energy
of
our
city.
It
took
our
industry
to
almost
disappear
to
finally
become
visible
and
perhaps
appreciated
for
what
it
contributes
to
a
vibrant,
vibrant
and
globally
desired
destination
that
we
all
get
to
call
our
home.
A
thriving
14
billion
dollar
visitor
economy
was
reduced
to
about
4.5
billion.
P
P
Areas
of
the
city
that
felt
unsafe
or
saw
significant
rise
in
vandalism
and
graffiti,
because
streets
were
empty,
will
benefit
not
just
when
locals
are
back,
but
when
visitors
are
back,
we
are
in
a
global
competition,
whether
with
other
cities
for
visitors,
talent,
thought
leadership.
Investment
and
more
tourism
is
a
proven
catalyst
that
can
influence
those
decisions,
and
your
one
of
our
competitive
advantages
has
been
safety
and
security
of
our
destination.
P
Our
product,
if
you
will,
is
perceived
as
a
safe
and
welcoming
city,
but
that
global
reputation
and
even
our
domestic
reputation
is
under
increasing
threat.
I
can
tell
you
that,
on
a
recent
sales
mission
to
bring
business
to
vancouver,
I
and
my
team
are
increasingly
getting
these
questions.
Is
it
safe
there?
Will
our
delegates
be
safe
when
they
attend
a
conference
in
your
city?
I
see
the
media
stories.
What
is
going
on,
there's,
anxiety
and
fear
from
employees
and
already
very
challenging
labor
market
businesses
need
to
be
safe
and
secure
environments.
P
Three
quick
stories
from
conversations
I've
had
with
partners
a
staff
member
going
about
their
job
was
threatened
with
a
pair
of
scissors.
A
gun
was
pulled
on
a
cook
during
a
night
shift,
and
one
of
our
members
has
had
five
break-ins
in
the
last
six
months,
but
prior
to
that
two
attempts
in
seven
years.
P
There
are
many
many
more
stories.
Businesses
in
some
parts
of
downtown
have
difficulty
attracting
visitors
who
don't
venture
out
into
neighborhoods
and
patronize
those
small
businesses,
because
they
feel
unsafe.
Public
spaces
and
green
spaces
are
increasingly
used
for
ad
hoc
housing.
Further
deterring
visitors,
for
example,
the
survival
of
chinatown,
but
such
an
important
economic
and
cultural
community
has
been
so
devastated
is
inexcusable.
P
P
It's
an
idea
shared
by
many,
that
the
keys
to
a
successful
city
is
a
vibrant,
active
downtown,
with
lots
of
public
spaces
open
to
everyone
and
a
healthy
mix
of
residents,
commercial
activity,
culture,
restaurants,
parks
and
transit,
and
so
on.
We
know
this
it's
increasingly
clear
that
safety
and
security
should
be
added
to
that.
That's
the
vancouver
we
want
for
our
residents
and
that's
the
city
that
will
continue
to
attract
visitors.
P
We
recognize
this
as
an
incredibly
complex
challenge
that
requires
concerted
collaboration
across
sectors
of
the
city.
We
do
want
to
acknowledge
the
initiatives
that
are
already
underway
and
the
efforts
made
by
the
police.
Thank
you,
chief
palmer
in
your
force
and
the
many
individuals,
coastal
health,
businesses
and
organizations
and
the
city
are
all
trying
to
make
a
difference,
but
please
take
seriously
the
concerns
of
your
very,
very
proud
tourism
industry.
There
is
too
much
at
stake
here.
The
tourism
community
is
a
partner
in
trying
to
help.
Thank
you.
A
G
Yeah,
thanks
for
speaking
royce
and
cutting
to
the
chase,
can
you
say
examples
of
other
cities
where
their
crime
rates
have
gone
up
and
are
they
seeing
the
impact
and
their
tourism
go
down
like,
in
other
words,
very
clearly?
What
do
we
stand
to
lose
in
not
being
able
to
build
back
our
tourism
industry
because
and
I've
heard
examples
of
things
like
portland,
for
example,
where
conferences
won't
book
there
anymore
companies
who
won't
send
their
employees
on
business
travel
because
they
don't
perceive
it
to
be
safe.
P
Thank
you
for
the
question,
counselor
you're,
absolutely
right.
We
know
that
business
has
shifted
out
of
some
cities,
they
won't
send
their
employees.
We
know
seattle
closed
an
office
because
the
downtown
core
was
too
dangerous
where
that
office
was.
That
could
be
a
pickup
for
us,
but
it
is
a
concern
that
is
raising
to
the
top
of
the
agenda
for
meeting
planners.
Who
are
now
asking
that
question
more
directly.
Tell
me
about
the
safety
of
your
city.
That's
also
included
in
the
consideration
of
bringing
events
to
the
city.
P
What
is
happening
in
terms
of
crime,
violent
crime
and
safety,
because
these
global
brands,
these
properties,
that
will
bring
business
to
our
city,
don't
want
to
put
visitors
and
spectators
in
in
harm's
way.
So
it
is
a
very
serious
concern
and
we
will
lose
business
because
of
it.
G
So
I
was
going
to
ask
about
that
because,
as
you
know,
there's
discussion
around
whether
vancouver
should
or
shouldn't
host
a
2030
olympics.
Fifa,
for
example,
we're
looking
to
bring
that
here.
I
remember
from
my
time
and
working
on
bringing
2010
here
that
the
ioc
had
a
sort
of
an
evaluation
matrix
and
safety
was
sort
of
a
basic
tenant
that
needed
to
be
there.
They
wouldn't
consider
a
destination,
and
then
they
wait
accordingly,
based
on
community
support.
You
know
the
quality
of
your
venues
and
availability
things
like
safety.
G
P
I
think
we've
covered
it
counselor.
Thank
you.
It's
just
it's
global
perception
and
we
are
in
a
major
competition
and
you've
got
an
industry
that
has
been
crushed
for
the
last
two
years
on
top
of
trying
to
rebuild
confidence
in
business.
We
have
this
other.
We
have
these
other
issues
that
we
need
to
deal
with
and
we
recognize
we
are
empathetic,
but
it
will
cost
us.
It
will
cost
jobs
and
will
cost
our
ability
to
rebuild
community.
P
A
That's
it
for
questions
thanks
for
calling
in
we
have
henry
tom
next
thanks,
so
much
for
your
patience.
C
C
C
C
C
I've
had
female
staff
members
physically
attacked,
while
walking
to
bus
stops
and
while
waiting
for
the
bus,
the
non-stop
graffiti
defecation
needles
and
doorways
is
disgusting.
C
C
C
C
C
A
Thank
you.
Do
you
have
a
question
counselor
dejanova
for
three
minutes.
L
Thanks
so
much-
and
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
there
were
others
presenting,
but
my
question.
Actually
I
really
appreciate
what
what
you've
said,
but
it's
for
mr
tom,
if
that's,
if
that's,
okay,
thanks
so
much
and-
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
sharing
that
with
us-
your
experience.
So
thank
you,
mr
tom,
I
was
wondering
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
back
and
forth
about
the
the
dragon
lights
that
you
know,
someone
was
distracting
with
a
leaf
blower.
While
someone
else
was
hacking
down
this
light.
L
C
Thanks
the
constitution
nova,
you
know
I'm
just
outraged
about
that
dragon
dragon
like
the
incident
and
and
as
a
chief
palmer
says
it's
you
know
the
impact
on
the
community
of
of
us.
You
know
it's
pretty
minor
kind
of
a
nuisance
kind
of
a
crime,
but
you
know
the
impact
on
the
community
is
just
you
know.
It's
far
outweighs
the
the
value
of
the
theft
or
whatever
it
is.
C
So
often
these
things
are
just
put
down
to
nuisance
crime
so,
but
in
in
fact
you
know
it's,
it
strikes
at
the
heart
of
our.
You
know
our
pride
in
the
community.
C
As
you
know,
you
know
the
the
dragon
lights
were
were
a
vcma
project
that
cove
and
funded
you
know
partially
by
the
city,
and
it
was
a
great
collaboration
in
1984
and
it
was
another
great
collaboration
in
five
years
ago
when
well
your
dad
and
I
led
the
restoration
of
the
of
the
and
refitting
of
the
of
the
lanterns.
C
So
you
know
I
I
really
really
take
that
personally
and
and
yeah
and
it's
it.
It
has
a
huge
symbolic
value
to
to
to
the
community,
and
you
know
the
whole
community's
outraged
with
that.
You
know
it's
like
tracy
says
when,
when
when
somebody
you
know
graffiti's,
the
white
wall
is
at
the
garden.
You
know
it
it's.
It
really
strikes
at
the
heart
of
the
community.
C
No,
I
think
the
city
is
doing
a
lot.
The
the
vpd
has
done
has
has
has
reached
out
to
the
community,
has
they've,
given
us
pointers
on
on
what
we
can
do
to
to
to
to
help
ourselves
basically
and
would.
C
We
see
a
lot
of
them
already
and
more
would
be
better.
I
mean,
I
think
you
know,
if
nothing
else,
even
if
it
doesn't
deter
a
crime,
you
know
it
gives
our
customers
a
sense
of
security.
It
gives
them
the
sense
of
comfort.
So
you
know,
yeah
police
presence
would
would
help
with
that
a
lot.
Mr.
K
Thanks
so
much
actually
my
questions
if
it's
okay
is
for
tracy
toe,
oh
okay,
thank
you
so
much
hi!
Yes,
I
was
interested
in
what
you
said
tracy
regarding
the
need
for
more
money
for
more
safety
plans.
What
are
the
elements
of
your
safety
plans
like?
What
are
you
looking
to?
I.
C
C
We
work
with
the
bia
and
bia
already
spends
like
half
their
budget
on
on
private
security.
So
more
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
more
funding
on
that
front
would
would
would
help
that
much.
But
but,
as
I
said,
you
know
just
just
the
vpd
outreach
with
our
with
our
members.
You
know
maybe
there's
a
cc
community
policing
unit.
Maybe
you
know
I
know
in
the
past
they've
had
funding
to
to
put
ambassadors
on
the
street.
Maybe
something
like
that
would
help.
You
know
it's.
M
C
K
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
this
evening.
That's
it
for
questions,
appreciate
you
coming
in
today
and
waiting
for
your
turn.
Thanks
very
much
we're
going
to
move
on
to
speaker
e
on
the
public
speakers
list,
vincent
kwan.
A
We
have
vincent
kwon,
hello,
everyone.
Yes,
please
go
ahead
up
to
five
minutes.
S
S
First
off,
I
I'm
not
going
to
deny
the
fact
that
I'm
somewhat
nervous
about
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
marion
council
today,
but
mainly
because
I
find
that
that
public
safety
has
unfortunately
become
a
topic.
That
is
not
always
easy
to
have
an
objective
conversation
on
as
a
society
together.
It
is
a
big
topic,
because
public
safety
affects
everyone
every
day
and,
and
it
is
a
big
topic,
because
any
holistic
solutions
or
actions
that
we
can
take
requires
to
include
discussions
around
prevention
enforcement
and
looking
at
various
various
root
causes.
S
S
S
S
S
You
know
speaking
in
a
public
forum
like
this
highly
intimidating
or
they
they
might
not
feel
eloquent
speakers
in
english
and
they
might
not
feel
comfortable
sharing
their
thoughts
publicly,
and
these
are
the
people
whose
voice
we
should
we
don't
often
hear,
but
their
sense
of
safety
is
of
equal
importance.
But
just
to
be,
you
know,
solution
oriented
today.
S
S
Let's
be
more
specific.
When
I
talk
about
safety
of
seniors,
I
think
about
my
auntie
jenny
who
lives,
who
is
65
years
old
and
lives
in
strathcom
as
an
example.
If
she
hesitates
about
her
safety
when
walking
alone
for
half
an
hour
in
a
particular
neighborhood,
that
is
an
indicator
for
concern
and
ask
500
seniors
across
different
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city.
You
know
about
the
sense
of
public
safety.
Senior
sentiment
on
public
safety
can
be
one
critical
and
effective
measurement
of
the
baseline.
S
Another
critical
measurement
of
baseline
on
public
safety
is
that
businesses
throughout
our
city
city
can
operate
safely
without
concern
for
public
violence,
break-ins
and
vandalism
for
setting
this
part
of
public
way
of
the
public
safety
baseline.
I
hope
mayor
and
council
can
direct
a
team
across
departmental
city
staff
to
partner
with
all
bias
in
the
city
cbia
as
trusted
capable
and
willing
partners
in
the
community.
We
are
on
the
ground
working
with
the
people
every
day.
This
community
of
people
consists
of
people
who
work
really
hard
as
entrepreneurs.
S
They
take
tremendous
risk
because
that's
the
livelihood-
and
you
know
these
businesses
are
part
of
our
neighborhood
and
our
part
of
our
livelihood
as
well.
Let's
work
with
the
bi
and
set
the
baseline
for
public
safety
partner
with
the
bi
to
regularly
evaluate
progress
made
and
implement
innovative
programs
make
vi
a
part
of
the
holistic
coordination
that
was
mentioned
earlier
tonight.
S
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
comments.
I
don't
see
anybody
on
the
queue
for
questions
for
you,
so
thank
you
and
I'll.
Just
move
on
to
the
next
speaker,
council.
We
are
at
20
minutes
to
10
and
we
have
partap.
Sahoda
is
speaker
number
f.
T
Great,
thank
you.
Okay,
mayor
and
council.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
My
name
is
par
tap
sahuda
and
I'm
the
executive
director
at
the
collingwood
community,
policing
center
I'm
joined
by
jose
abundo,
I'm
chris
talou.
The
founding
executive
director
opened
the
community
policing
center
with
the
support
of
the
bank,
of
with
the
support
of
the
city
of
vancouver,
the
vancouver
police
department
and
the
refugee
collingwood
community
in
1994..
T
The
collingwood
catchment
comprises
of
multiple
communities,
including
mount
pleasant,
killarney,
cedar,
cottage,
renfrew,
collingwood,
fraser
view
and
champlain
heights.
We
have
over
180
000
people
in
our
catchment.
We
have
had
and
continue
to
have
the
lowest
crime
rate
in
the
city
in
our
catchment.
T
The
collingwood
community
policing
center
is
involved
in
community
development.
The
mission
statement
of
the
of
the
collingwood
community
policing
center
is
that
the
colony
would
ctc
is
committed
to
building
strong,
safe,
livable
and
inclusive
neighborhoods
for
all.
The
cpc
often
takes
the
lead,
bringing
community
members
together
to
create
solutions
so
that
development
enhances
the
neighborhood.
T
We
are
involved
with
six
social
housing
projects,
the
biltmore
kingsway
continental,
sierra
ross
house,
naomi
place,
burnham
place
and
koyatsu,
which
is
on
broadway
and
fraser.
The
purpose
of
the
calling
with
cbc
is
to
educate
the
community
about
crime
and
safety
issues
and
to
actively
involve
them
in
community-based
solutions
in
partnership
with
cpc
and
the
stakeholders.
T
During
during
the
pandemic,
we
have
managed
we
managed
to
remain
operational
with
our
staff
in
the
office.
Working
with
our
calling
with
bia
arrangements
were
made
to
have
our
guardian
patrols,
which
is
the
business
liaison
to
continue
checking
the
well-being
of
the
businesses
by
having
a
mobile
patrol
out
in
the
neighborhood.
While
covet
protocols
were
being
observed.
T
The
open
line
of
communication
guarantees
that
any
issue
will
be
addressed
when
people
have
are
aware
of
its
existence.
We
work
with
the
city
of
vancouver
the
vancouver
police
department,
transit
police.
All
cpcs
all
need
all
neighborhoods
in
our
neighborhood
houses
in
our
catchment,
the
community
centers
in
our
attachment,
icbc
and
other
stakeholders.
T
We
do
not
have
the
same
issues
as
the
other
communities
because,
through
years
we
have
addressed
these
same
issues,
and
by
doing
so,
they
did
not
build
up
now
to
create
serious
concern
for
some
communities
in
vancouver.
T
During
the
pandemic,
we
were
able
to
find
a
solution
to
one
of
the
problem
premises
that
was
ongoing
for
10
years.
With
the
help
of
four
district
3
npos
and
block
watch,
we
found
new,
innovative
ways
to
address
the
issue.
The
crime
rate
dropped
as
a
result
of
the
community,
the
cpc
and
the
police
working
together.
T
We
always
look
for
solutions
to
find
better
ways
to
serve
our
community,
an
example
being
seniors
movies
at
champlain
heights.
We
do
the
event
in
partnership
with
champlain
community
center.
We
educate
seniors
on
crime
prevention
and
have
to
be
and
how
to
be
safe
in
the
community
and
give
them
an
opportunity
to
socialize
during
a
lunch
and
watch
movie.
Building
these
relationships
is
so
important
to
what
we
do.
T
Recently.
City
council
approved
a
pilot
project
called
better
together,
neighborhood
collective
action
pilot
for
mount
pleasant.
It
is
a
round
table.
The
objective
is
to
improve
access
to
support
services
for
equity,
denied
individuals
and
those
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness
in
the
local,
neighborhood
sense
of
safety
and
connection
for
all
neighbors
and
reduce
stigma
against
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
other
equity
denied
people
maintain
neighborhood
cleanliness,
improve
communication
between
community
organizations
such
as
bias
and
residents.
T
We
look
forward
to
being
a
part
of
it.
Thank
you.
T
T
T
A
Thank
you.
We
do
have
two
folks
who
have
been
sitting
here
all
night
that
are
in
person
that
I'd
like
to
get
to
tonight,
so
that
would
take
us
to
sepharina
glarus.
That
would
I'm
not
calling
you
yet,
but
but
I'm
just
saying
anybody
else,
that's
after
that
speaker
number
two
eddie
elmore,
three
lorraine
lowe,
richard
flynn.
A
Right
so
may
10th
that
I
probably
at
3
or
6
pm
we'll
decide
as
a
council
we'll
inform
you
of
when
your
your
time
will
be
able
to
come
thanks.
A
I
think
we're
good
we
can.
Probably
we
can
probably
make
it
through
the
three
speakers.
So
I'll
just
go
with
terry
smith
is
speaker
g.
L
Thank
you,
mayor
and
council.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
evening.
My
name
is
terry
smith
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
west
end
business
improvement
association.
We
represent
approximately
650
businesses
and
commercial
property
owners
along
our
three
main
commercial
streets
of
davey,
denman
and
robson.
The
web.
Yes
mandate
is
to
brand
promote
and
revitalize
the
west
end
for
the
purposes
of
enhancing
the
economic
vitality
of
our
business
community
brand
promote
revitalize.
L
It
is
not
and
should
not
be
the
responsibility
of
the
bia
to
uphold
public
safety
in
our
community.
It
is
the
role
of
the
city
and
the
role
of
the
vpd,
yet,
as
we
are
increasingly
being
faced
with
worsening
conditions
on
our
streets,
bias,
webby
included,
feel
this
responsibility
is
being
downloaded
onto
our
already
stretched
organization
prior
to
the
pandemic.
The
webia
did
not
have
a
private
security
program.
L
We
do
now,
and
coverage
has
just
increased
from
three
to
five
days
per
week
to
help
address
the
property
crime
issues
and
provide
a
needed
service
for
our
members.
While
we
absolutely
have
a
vested
interest
in
community
safety,
this
should
not
be
our
responsibility,
but
here
it
lies
the
problem
in
order
to
fulfill.
L
L
Our
community
is
suffering
and
must,
and
more
must
be
done
to
restore
its
health
and
well-being
for
everyone.
We
are
doing
our
part.
We
have
been
and
will
continue
to
be,
an
active
engaged
partner
with
the
city
bpd,
as
well
as
various
community
organizations
and
social
service
agencies
and
promoting
community
safety.
L
We
will
continue
to
be
an
advocate
lobbying
for
cross-governmental
coordination
and
appropriate
funding
for
a
continuum
of
housing,
wrap
around
supports
and
services,
prevention
and
treatment,
programs,
safe
supply,
complex
care,
housing
and
other
progressive
policies.
We
will
continue
to
be
a
part
of
this
important
dialogue.
L
However,
we
need
to
turn
these
conversations
into
actionable
measurable
strategies,
enforcement
treatment
and
prevention,
in
addition
to
harm
reduction,
are
key
pillars
to
a
successful
holistic
community
safety
strategy.
Acts
of
crime
do
need
to
be
assessed
and
dealt
with
accordingly
at
the
municipal,
provincial
and
federal
levels,
because
our
current
system
is
broken
and
not
working
for
anyone.
Criminal
behavior
behaviors
require
an
immediate
response,
but
also
a
deeper
assessment
of
the
root
causes
to
direct
the
necessary
course
of
action,
whether
it
be
on-demand
mental
health
or
addiction,
support
services,
incarceration,
restorative
justice
or
rehabilitation.
L
A
Thank
you
so
much.
There
are
no
questions
for
you,
so
I
am
going
to
move
to
the
next
speaker.
We
have
nicole
mushi
sorry
if
I've
mispronounced
your
last
name.
Thank
you!
So
much
for
being
so
patient
and
up
to
five
minutes
whenever
you're
ready.
E
Hi,
I'm
nicole
mucci,
you
had
it
almost
right.
You're
really
close.
Thank
you
for
having
me
here
tonight.
My
pronouns.
Are
she
her-
and
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
union
gospel
mission,
to
share
our
thoughts
on
the
reported
increase
in
random,
violent
attacks
in
vancouver
and
to
offer
our
insights
for
your
consideration
in
looking
at
some
systemic
solutions.
E
We
want
to
extend
our
gratitude
to
many
of
the
departments
who
are
no
longer
here,
like
accs,
vch
parks
and
rec
and
more
for
their
continued
work
in
our
sector
as
well.
We
have
noticed
a
disturbing
trend
simply
by
being
associated
with
the
downtown
east
side
or
by
looking
out
of
place
in
various
neighborhoods.
Around
vancouver
many
equity
denied
community
members
have
become
targets
of
violent
crime.
It
only.
E
E
Crime
certainly
happens
on
the
downtown
east
side,
we're
not
denying
that
we
acknowledge
that
wholeheartedly,
but
we
also
know
that
the
downtown
eastside
has
an
entire
neighborhood
of
folks
who
are
really
citizens
of
the
city.
They
are
trying
very
hard
to
participate
actively
and
often
face
systemic
stigmatization
as
a
result
of
where
they
live.
There
is
a
huge
issue
with
conflating
criminality
with
poverty,
and
the
systemic
stigmatization
happens,
often
without
recourse.
E
Most
recently,
we
can
point
to
the
fact
that
hundreds
of
people
and
businesses
lost
access
to
their
mail
being
delivered
daily
due
to
a
perceived
fear
of
safety.
While
a
temporary
solution
to
that
was
reached.
We
also
saw
that
the
community
had
to
come
together
and
demand
their
dignity,
rather
than
being
consulted
to
solve
that
problem
in
the
first
place.
The
truth
is
that
when
communities
like
the
downtown
eastside
are
dehumanized
consistently,
predators
will
take
advantage
of
an
inequitable
situation.
E
E
We
also
know
that
there
are
groups
doing
the
very
important
work
advocating
to
decriminalize
poverty
and
they
spend
a
lot
of
time.
Ensuring
equity
denied
individuals
are
given
space
and
opportunity
to
speak
into
the
matters
that
deeply
impact
them,
and
it
was
precisely
some
of
those
community
members
who
are
on
who
were
underrepresented
here
today
and
tonight.
E
We
fervently
hope
that
council
considers
continuing
to
find
other
engagement
opportunities
when
developing
potential
alternatives
to
emergency
response
that
don't
always
necessarily
involve
the
vpd
at
ugm.
We
have.
We
have
seen
the
community
centered
alternatives
work.
Last
week
we
had
somebody
outside
of
our
thrift
store,
who
we
recognized
that
we
were
not
equipped
to
walk
alongside
in
their
journey
due
to
some
of
their
medical
issues.
E
However,
when
we
called
the
paramedics,
they
refused
medical
assistance
and
we
are
not
the
kind
of
place
that's
going
to
leave
an
ailing
man
in
our
alley,
simply
because
there's
a
gap
for
him,
so
we
called
the
commercial
cpc.
I've
got
the
wrong
name,
woodlands,
I
think,
and
they
showed
up
within
30
minutes.
They
had
had
a
really
meaningful
conversation
with
this
gentleman.
We
got
him
some
fresh
clothes
and
we
figured
out
where
he
needed
to
go
and
he
got
there.
E
E
I
Yeah
thanks
so
much
for
coming
in
nicole
and
providing
a
balance
trying
to
balance
the
perspective
out
a
little
bit
here.
I
really
really
appreciate
it.
Do
you
think
that
we
can
police
our
way
to
safety.
E
I
Brevity
is
good,
I
a
while
back.
We
passed
a
motion
at
council
over
over
almost
two
years
ago.
Actually
it
called
for
the
city
to
come
back
for
the
city
staff
to
come
back
with
a
budget
and
a
timeline
for
replacing
police
services
in
the
areas
of
homelessness,
sex
work,
drug
use
and
mental
health
with
community-led
services.
E
I
think
that
constable-
I'm
sorry,
I
forgot
his
last
name,
because
I'm
very
tired
constable
palmer,
I
almost
called
him
adam
constable
palmer-
was
right
in
what
he
said
in
that
you
can't
completely
get
your
way
out
of
the
issue
simply
by
policing,
but
you
also
can't
completely
derail
the
policing
system
because
they
are
an
important
aspect
to
a
fully
functioning
society
and
ugm
as
an
organization
recognizes
that
and
respects
the
important
relationship
that
we
have
with
the
police,
because
they
have
assisted
us
on
in
situations
and
helped
keep
our
outreach
workers
and
our
community
members
safe,
because
the
important
thing
that
I'm
here
to
say
is
like
mr,
like
counts.
E
No
accs
singh
said
earlier.
They
they're
really
vulnerable
members
of
our
community,
who
are
seven
times
more
likely
to
become
victims
of
violent
crime.
That
means
that
when
they
aren't
able
to
be
here
to
speak
to
the
crime
that
they
are
having
committed
against
them,
we
need
to
speak
up
for
that
and
we
need
to
work
together
to
find
a
solution.
A
Okay
thanks,
I
don't
think
we
need
that
at
the
in
person.
The
person
who
is
here
has
gone,
but
she
will
get
an
email
to
come
back
at
the
next
meeting,
but
we
do
have
we'll
move
to
the
next
picture.
Anyway.
P
P
I'm
I'm
I
actually.
I
was
under
the
understanding
that
you
were
ending
the
meeting,
so
I
I'm
I'm
not
prepared
at
this
moment.
I
would
ask
kindly
that
I
could
be
moved
to
the
next
meeting.
Why
don't.
A
We
have
only
three
minutes
left,
so
we'll
cut
the
speakers
list
here
now
and
we'll
start
with
enzo
papa
at
the
next
meeting.
I
think
that
works
pretty
well,
so
may.
L
Of
course,
I
was
just
wondering
if,
if
there
was
an
error
in
which
speaker
from
the
commercial
drive
bia
was
speaking
because
these
aren't
they
technically
aren't
public
speakers.
They
were
on
the
memo.
A
Thank
you.
So
thank
you
very
much
appreciate
it.
No
problem
we'll
hear
from
you
next
meeting
clerks.
We
repeat
that
one
more
time
we're
going
to
be
at
may
10th
is
that
right.
B
D
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
so
we're
going
to
recess
for
tonight
and
we'll
come
back.
We
want
you
to
make
a
decision
now.