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And
I
now
call
the
special
counsel
meeting
of
tuesday
may
10th
to
order
reconvening
from
april
28th
special
council
meeting
has
been
called
in
accordance
with
sections
2.5
and
14.5
the
procedure
bylaw.
The
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
the
community
to
provide
council
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
speakers
on
public
safety.
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A
A
Furthermore,
in
accordance
with
section
7.9,
the
procedure
by
law,
the
chair
may
expel
a
member
of
the
public
who
engages
in
improper
contact.
Speakers
have
five
minutes
to
make
their
comments
and
may
only
speak
once
council
members
may
ask
questions
of
speakers
for
up
to
three
minutes
following
their
presentation.
However,
speakers
are
under
no
obligation
to
respond.
A
Pelvic
is
strongly
urged
to
listen
to
proceedings
via
the
city's
website
or
youtube
link
and
follow
along
on
twitter
at
vancityclerk
for
updates
on
the
progress
of
the
meeting.
Any
comments
on
the
web
on
the
agenda
may
be
sent
to
council
using
the
web
forum
on
the
city's
website.
The
link
to
that
form
will
be
tweeted
out
on
at
vancity
clerk.
Following
last
speaker
on
the
speakers
list,
we
will
go
back
over
the
speakers
list,
calling
those
who
missed
their
turn
and
give
them
an
opportunity
to
speak.
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D
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D
To
alleviate
some
of
the
workload
on
the
vpd.
We
highly
recommend
that
street
level
outreach
and
resources
are
provided
to
and
put
forth
by
vancouver
coastal
health
and
bc
housing.
Again,
it
is
imperative
that
on
street
level,
homelessness
and
addiction
outreach
become
part
of
the
work.
To
this
end,
this
would
include
bc
housing
patrols,
working
alongside
vancouver
coastal
health
outreach
and
providing
housing
options
wherever
possible.
D
Another
super
super
important
component
of
these
solutions
is
the
vpd.
Of
course,
some
of
the
stats
provided
by
chief
palmer
at
the
previous
meeting
were
astounding
to
hear
over
250,
missed
calls
or
unanswered
calls
to
911
per
day.
This
is
unacceptable.
Ecom
needs
to
be
overhauled
so
that
each
call
291
is
answered.
D
D
Community
policing
does
serve
our
communities
to
some
extent.
However,
community
policing
is
more
of
a
community
service.
There
are
not
police
services
provided
by
community
policing.
It's
important
to
to
know
that
many
of
our
retail
districts
are
lucky
enough
to
have
community
policing,
but
the
name
policing
in
the
title
does
not
in
fact
mean
that
those
community
service
providers
provide
policing.
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G
G
D
G
Thanks,
I'm
wondering
you
were
talking
a
little
bit
about
sort
of
the
bc,
housing,
homeless,
outreach
teams
or
programs.
I'm
wondering
what
what
do
you
think
do
you
feel
that
the
city
has
a
role
to
play
that
when
we
work
with
the
province
to
house
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
that
we
make
sure
that
we
have
that
adequate
level
of
support?
G
So
even
if
they
do
have
housing
per
se,
they
have
a
room
with
a
key
and
there's
a
front
desk
person
there
do
you,
do
you
have
a
position
on
behalf
of
the
commercial
drive
business
as
to
whether
or
not
that's
enough?
Do
you
feel
that
there
needs
to
be
more
support
and
when
we
allow
this
to
kind
of
move
into
our
city
without
those
appropriate
supports?
That's
where
we're
seeing
some
of
these
issues.
Is
that
your
opinion?
Just
from
hearing
to
speak,
I
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
elaborate
a
little.
G
A
A
H
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
Everyone.
My
name
is
eddie
elmer.
I
have
lived,
worked
volunteered
and
been
an
avid
walker
in
downtown
vancouver
for
21
years
now,
as
a
not
so
masculine
gay
man
who
grew
up
being
bullied
in
school,
I
moved
to
vancouver
looking
for
some
peace,
acceptance
and
safety
and
what
I
knew
was
one
of
canada's
safest
places
for
gay
people
and
for
18
years.
It
was
no
matter
the
time
of
day
or
night.
H
I
could
safely
walk
anywhere,
even
in
some
of
the
rougher
parts
of
town,
without
anyone
bothering
me
or
targeting
me
for
my
sexual
orientation,
but
over
the
last
two
years
things
have
changed
and
I'd
like
to
describe
some
of
what
I
have
experienced
on
an
evening
in
march
2020,
a
man
approached
me
near
coal
harbor
community
center,
as
I
was
on
a
nightly
walk.
He
followed
me
tried
to
engage
me
in
conversation
and
then
called
me
and
forgive
my
language.
H
H
Less
than
a
year
later,
I
was
standing
at
the
corner
of
west
georgia
and
berard
when
a
man
next
to
me
called
me
an
effing,
jew
and
then
struck
me
in
the
leg
in
plain
view
of
other
people,
he
crossed
the
street
and
I
called
police
again
after
which
he
was
arrested
in
july
of
last
year
during
pride
of
all
times,
a
man
on
robson
street
blocked.
My
path
accused
me
of
stealing
his
belongings
and
called
me
a
goof.
Then
he
punched
me
in
the
chest
and
tried
to
steal
my
phone.
H
I
was
able
to
get
away
and
call
9-1-1
given
the
man's
size.
I
might
not
have
been
able
to
do
that
police
arrived
and
arrested
him
moments
later.
A
few
weeks
later,
a
man
near
canada
place
told
me
that
I
was
blocking
his
view
and
that
this
area
wasn't
for
gay
people.
The
gay
people
he
told
me
are
in
the
west
end
I
left,
but
not
before
he
got
up
and
approached
me
in
a
threatening
manner.
H
H
I've
also
experienced
or
witnessed
less
serious
incidents
on
west
georgia,
street
granville,
gerard
farlow,
robson,
butte
and
most
disconcerting
of
all
davie
street,
which
is
supposed
to
be
the
city's
quintessential
safe
space.
I've
also
been
threatened
or
nearly
assaulted
when
checking
on
people
who
appear
to
be
unconscious
or
in
distress.
H
While
I
refuse
to
live
in
fear,
I've
become
preoccupied
with
my
safety,
I'm
hyper
alert
to
my
surroundings
and
react
strongly
to
the
slightest
noise.
I
look
over
my
shoulder
more
than
I'd,
like
I
view
people
with
suspicion
and
avoid
eye
contact
at
night.
If
I
see
someone
walking
towards
me,
I
cross
the
street.
I
come
home
feeling
uneasy
and
depressed
because
I
can't
enjoy
my
city
the
way
I
used
to.
But
what
upsets
me
more
than
anything
is
how
people
have
seemingly
blamed
me
for
these
situations.
H
I've
been
told
it's
my
fault
for
walking
at
night.
Even
though
many
stranger
assaults
happen
during
the
day,
and
even
though
for
reasons
I
don't
have
time
to
explain,
I
actually
feel
safer
at
night
than
during
the
day.
I've
also
been
told
it's
my
fault
for
walking
alone,
even
though
attacks
happen
when
people
are
with
others.
Apparently
it's
also
my
fault
that
I
walk
in
dangerous
parts
of
town,
even
though
the
central
business
district
is
hardly
what
anyone
would
have
called
dangers
two
years
ago.
H
It's
also
my
fault
that
I've
been
threatened
when
checking
on
people,
because
I
don't
know
how
to
speak
to
them
nicely
or
it's
my
fault
that
I
didn't
get
a
good
enough.
Look
at
an
assailant
in
order
to
satisfy
a
crown
attorney.
It's
my
fault
that
I
hesitated
to
press
charges
as
the
fear
of
retaliation
were
not
a
valid
worry,
and
it's
my
fault
that
talking
about
these
incidents
exaggerates
how
bad
things
have
become,
or
some
people
have
accused
me
of
doing
lying
about
these
incidents
in
order
to
gain
attention.
H
What
I
do
wish
in
conclusion
is
that
all
of
you
listen
intently
to
every
victim
who
speaks
tonight
this
afternoon
and
then
try
to
put
yourself
in
their
shoes
and
ask
how
you'd
feel
if
that
person,
or
your
own
son
or
daughter
or
someone
you
care
deeply
about
and
then
ask
yourself
if
you've
done
everything
you
can
to
keep
them
safe.
Thank
you.
A
I
Yeah
thanks
mayor
hi,
eddie,
thanks
for
speaking
to
council
and
sharing
that
I
know,
I
know
that
you
walk
a
lot
and
so
you
do
see
a
lot
that
happens
in
the
city.
I
just
wanted
to
delve
into
sort
of
the
notion,
you
sort
of
said
it's
your
fault,
because
sometimes
it's
deemed
that
you're
not
compassionate
enough
or
that
there
might
be
repercussions.
Can
you
expand
on
what
you
meant
by
that.
H
Well,
repercussions,
there's
talk,
so
what
was
I
talking
about
was
in
the
context
of
pressing
pressing
charges.
I
I
do
have
concern
that
if
I
go
ahead
with
charges
that
the
person
I'm
I
the
person
who's
assaulted
me
will
see
me
on
the
street
at
some
other
point
and
harm
me,
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
a
legitimate
concern
and
in
two
cases
I
didn't
press
charges.
For
that
reason,
the
last
two
cases
I
actually
did
go
ahead
and
do
it.
I
With
respect
to
maybe
zeroing
in
on
your
comment
around,
you
know
sometimes
you're
told
you're,
not
compassionate
enough.
Do
you
think
that?
Is
it
your
experience,
or
do
you
think
that
we're
becoming
less
tolerant
and
that
people
that
are
generally
having
these
experiences
are
become
fearful
of
being
spoken
out
about
because
they're
told
that
they're
not
compassionate
or
they're,
not
sensitive
enough
to
the
social
issues
that
are
happening
in
the
city
and
that
people
are
just
feeling
intimidated.
H
H
Well
you
just
weren't
nice
enough
to
somebody
and
I
actually
go
out
of
my
way
to
to
check
on
people
sometimes
in
alleyways
all
by
myself
at
two
in
the
morning,
and
so
it's
really
offensive
to
me
when
people
say
that
I'm
not
doing
enough,
I
mean
I'm
constantly
calling
police
and
ambulances
and
fire
to
help
people
who
are
in
distress
and
and
I've
always
been
assaulted.
Doing
so,
and
it's
really
hurtful
when
I
hear
people,
but
I
continue
to
do
my
part
because
we
have
to
do
our
part.
H
G
Thanks
so
much
thanks
eddie
for
sharing
that-
and
I
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying-
I'm
I'm
really
sorry
that
that
happened
too.
It's
really
deeply
disturbing
to
hear
stories
like
that,
but
I
really
appreciate
your
courage
and
coming
forward
and
sharing
that
can
I
can
I
ask
you-
and
you
don't
have
to
answer
my
question,
but
in
each
of
the
incidences
you'd
mentioned
that
you
had
contacted
police.
Did
you
contact
police
right
away.
H
In
three
f,
let
me
see
here
in
three
of
the
four
incidents
yes
and
one
of
them.
I
delayed,
and
I
believe
I
contacted
the
next
day
and
the
canada
place
incident.
I
didn't
call
right
away
on
that
one
again,
because
I
I
had
seen
the
police
were
busy
and
frankly,
I
just
kind
of
worried
that
I
don't
know
that
I'd
be
blamed
for
it.
H
I
mean
it's
kind
of
an
irrational
fear
and
a
police
would
never
blame
me
for
this,
but
so
many
things
have
happened
to
me
and
I've
heard
so
many
comments
from
people
on
social
media
and
even
my
friends
that
sometimes
I
question
myself
saying.
Well,
maybe
I
am
doing
something
wrong
and
attracting
this
kind
of
behavior.
G
Well,
I
want
you,
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
in
asking
you
that
question,
that's
not
at
all
what
I
meant
and
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
you
did
report
it.
I'm
wondering
you
had
also
spoken
about
talking
to
other
people
who
had
been
in
similar
situations
to
you.
I
think
that
you'd
spoken
about
this
when
you
last
talked
to
us
on
another
issue
and
public
safety
came
up.
H
To
be
kind
totally
totally,
and
one
of
the
things
I
hear
quite
often
is
people
will
not
call
police
unless
some
they
consider
something
extremely
serious
and
that
basically
involves
being
assaulted.
Physically
I've
heard
many
people
have
been
assaulted,
I've
even
heard
people
been
assaulted,
but
they
haven't
been
injured,
so
they
didn't
call
police
because
they
didn't
feel
it
was
worth
going
through
the
whole
rigamarole
of
the
legal
system
but
yeah.
Where
there's
a
lot
of
underreporting,
everything
that
happens
to
me.
G
H
G
H
A
J
Oh
hi,
there
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
council-
I
just
I'm
here
because
I
just
wanted
to
address
just
the
general
issue
of
public
safety,
as
I
probably
don't
need
to
reiterate
the
stuff
that
goes
on
in
chinatown
all
day.
That's
what
twitter's
for
so.
I
just
want
to
echo
the
same
sentiment
as
what
chief
palmer
had
mentioned
about
the
importance
of
complex
care,
three
levels
of
government
being
involved
and
a
multi-pronged
approach
and
which
requires
a
concerted
effort
by
all
the
various
agencies.
So
what
I'm
seeing
right
now?
J
The
current
failed
policies
pitting
marginalized
communities
against
each
other
and
the
main
issue
here
is
not
the
broken
windows
of
poop
and
vandalism.
It's
always
been
the
case
that
it's
much
more
than
that.
That's
just
a
symptom
of
a
bigger
issue
that
we
have.
You
know
you
call
it
complaining
and
whining
I'm
pointing
out
the
systemic
racism.
That's
happening
here,
but
this
be
happening
in
other
communities
such
as
carousel.
J
You
know
we
heard
last
week
from
members
of
our
business
community
about
the
real
daily
experiences
trying
to
run
a
business.
They
should
have
a
right
to
express
their
opinion
without
being
attacked
and
gaslit
they're
real
lived
experiences
and
that
doesn't
take
away
from
the
serious,
complex
issues
here.
So
other
impacts
of
other
people
are
real,
and
you
know
it's
incredibly
discouraging
for
others
in
my
community
to
speak
out
and
my
experience
being
there
daily
and
working
like
with
a
number
of
different
groups
like
seniors
volunteers.
J
Staff
business
owners
is
that
there
is
a
strong
plea
for
a
visible
presence
of
public
safety
and
resources,
and
we
need
that
safety
for
the
marginalized,
asians
and
seniors
in
our
community.
That's
what
I'm
hearing
from
seniors
that
there
is
a
lot
of
fear
of
coming
out
and
a
lot
of
worries
and
they're
afraid
to
get
out
of
their
house.
So
you
know
I
I
do
feel
like
we're
left
to
fend
for
ourselves
and
you
know
with
boots
on
the
ground,
for
our
seniors.
Small
businesses
and
community
supports.
Like
embers.
You
know.
J
J
So
my
message
is:
don't
hate
the
player
hate
the
game?
It's
what's
transpired
in
the
last
10
years.
The
way
development
has
been
handled
that
got
us
here
now.
We
need
to
figure
out
solutions
and
examples
of
policies
that
are
in
place
like
the
empty
storefront
tax.
That's
not
the
issue
like
the
stores.
It
says,
store
owners
don't
want
to
keep
their
shop
empty.
J
So
I
do
believe
there
needs
to
be
a
balance
between
policing
harm
reduction
treatment.
I
know
abstinence
does
not
work
for
everybody
and
nor
does
harm
reduction,
but
there
are
models
that
we
there
are
out
there
that
we
can
look
at
and
and
possibly
like
implement
here.
So
you
know
and
that
I
think
start
with
accountability
and
I
think
that's
the
key
to
recovery.
J
You
know,
reform,
respect
for
law
and
law
enforcement,
so
you
know
and
I'd
like
to
erase
somebody
I
had
mentioned
before
about
you-
know:
community
policing
center,
it's
more
acting
as
like
a
police,
but
it's
not
a
policing
body.
It's
a
supportive
services
for
accessibility
for
like,
for
example,
are
there's
a
chinese
speaking
community.
So
you
know
having
those
supports,
are
also
very
helpful,
but
yeah
in
a
nutshell,
needs
to
be
more
balanced.
There
needs
to
be
respect
for
law
and
order
in
this
community.
Thank
you.
G
J
Absolutely
you
know
it's
it's
hard
to
watch,
because
you
know
these
people
are
it's
their
real
lived.
Experiences
like
this
is
what's
going
on.
Nobody
is
you
know
calling
on
anybody
else
if
this
is
a
systemic
thing,
so
you
know
the
issue
like:
let's
not
pick
communities
against
each
other.
You
know
we
are
all
there.
We
all
share
the
same
concerns
and
we
all
just
want
to
just
be
in
a
better
community.
That's
all.
J
Yes,
and
you
know,
obviously
that's
what
happened,
and
you
know
we
can't
if
there's
there
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
differentiation
between
you
know,
people
having
expressing
their
their
real
experiences
like
the
horrors
that
they
face
daily
versus.
You
know
what
the
you
know.
What
goes
on,
it's
that
that's
reality
right
nobody's
attacking
anybody
here,
let's
not
pit
people
against
each
other.
This
is
about
a
an
issue
that
that's
you
know
in
the
policies
and
and
what
but
in
place
of
where
we're
situated
doesn't
help
either
right.
G
And
thanks
so
much,
I
have
one
minute
left
and
I
want
to
ask
you
after
this
meeting
after
we
hear
from
all
of
these
speakers,
what
do
you
want
to
see
lorraine,
sorry
to
put
that
on
you,
but
what
is
it
that
you
want
to
see?
I
mean
after
this
there's
no
clear
I
mean
staff
will
be
coming
back
to
us
with
recommendations
as
per
the
motion,
but
I
I'm
just
wondering
what
do
you
want
to
see
happen
and
how
quickly
does
it
need
to
happen?.
J
Oh
as
quick
as
possible,
of
course,
I
I
do
feel
like
there's
the
lowest
hanging
fruit
right
now
in
our
community.
Specifically,
you
know
having
the
boots
on
the
ground
and
having
that
vibrancy.
Having
people
come
back
into
the
community,
I
mean
that
is
what's
key
with
tourism
coming
back.
Hopefully,
you
know
that
that's
going
to
help,
but
you
know
all
three
levels
of
government
really
need
to
step
up
and
be
involved
and
not
take
the
can
down
down
the
road.
J
I
It
was
holding
an
umbrella
and
it
was
a
sunny
day,
and
I
remember
asking
her
why
and
she
said
that
she
didn't
feel
safe
so
that
she
had
the
umbrella.
This
was
a
woman,
probably
in
her
70s,
and
so
that,
therefore
she
would
be
able
to
defend
herself
you're
there
every
day.
Do
you
is
that
a
common
or
uncommon
story?
What
do
you
hear
from
the
seniors
in
terms
of.
J
J
Sorry
yeah,
that's
very
common,
I
mean
you
know,
they'll
have
something
because
they
don't
feel
safe
and
you
know
I
think
we
could
all
agree
just
from
my
discussions
with
them
and
having
just
that
added
police
presence.
Having
some
sort
of
you
know:
public
safety,
any
resources
that
are
visible
to
to
help
them
feel
safer,
and
this
doesn't
also
it's
not
just
a
senior
I'm
talking
about
the
small
business
owners
too.
So
you
know
it's
everybody
everybody's
being
affected
our
staff,
our
volunteers.
J
I
J
J
B
J
I
I
believe
in
harm
rejection,
because
I
don't
think
recovery
like
like
an
abstinent
spaces
is
right
for
everyone.
I've,
I've
lost
friends,
and
you
know
they
failed
at
it
right.
So
you
know,
harm
reduction,
probably
would
have
would
have
saved
them
at
the
time,
but
I
do
believe
you
know
one
point
years
like
that's
a
great
example
like
we
not
everybody
like
some
people
need
to
to
take.
You
know
their
their
jokes
because
they're
they
don't
feel
like
they
can't
function.
J
Like
I
remember
at
one
point
I
was
you
know
it
was
like
you
had
to
kind
of
be
on
something
to
feel
normal
right,
and
you
know
it's
it's
it's
a
very
like
harm
reduction.
It
can
it.
There
are
so
many
aspects
of
it
that
we
can
use
and
have
a
balance
of
offering
a
treatment
model
and
a
harm
reduction
model,
and
I
just
want
to
have
that
that
opportunity
for
everybody
to
choose
and
not
just
turn
around
and
have
like
a
needle
being
shoved
in
your
face
or
something
like
you
know.
J
A
B
A
K
K
I
want
to
begin
by
acknowledging
that
since
I
first
signed
up
to
speak,
two
people
have
been
killed
by
the
vpd
first,
someone
in
my
neighborhood
of
commercial
drive
and
just
last
week,
someone
at
the
patricia
hotel
in
the
downtown
eastside,
while
very
little
information
is
publicly
available.
At
this
time,
I
have
learned
that
the
commercial
drive
resident
was
a
40
year
old,
indigenous
man
and
presumably
the
person
at
the
patricia
was
a
downtown
eastside
resident.
K
So,
while
council
deliberates
and
strategizes
supposed
crime
rates,
I
do
want
to
highlight
recent
commentary
from
sfu
criminologist.
Dr
martin
anderson,
who
reviewed
bpd
data,
found
that
there
is
not
evidence
of
a
significant
spike
in
violent
crime
in
the
city
and
instead
dr
anderson
pointed
to
vpd
press
releases
and
social
media
to
emphasize
random
acts
of
violence.
K
K
I
also
see
a
perception
that
people
like
myself,
who
advocate
for
defunding
bpd,
are
opposed
to
safety
and
that
couldn't
be
further
from
the
truth.
I'm
profoundly
interested
in
the
safety
of
myself,
my
family,
my
community,
and
that
includes
unhoused
community
members
who
rely
on
public
space
if
we
want
to
address
public
safety.
Let's
address
the
violence
of
structural
racism
and
settler
colonialism,
that's
leading
to
disproportionate
homelessness
of
indigenous
and
black
people.
K
K
K
K
B
K
Yeah
thanks
for
those
two
questions,
counseling
swanston,
I
mentioned
amsterdam.
Last
time
I
spoke
to
council
because
I
feel
really
inspired
by
what
they're
doing
they're
actually
giving
funding
to
local
community
groups
to
oust
tourist
businesses
or
businesses
that
don't
actually
cater
to
local
communities.
But
I
do
hear
what
business
representatives
are
saying
about.
K
You
know
this
kind
of
deserted
commercial
area,
whether
it's
in
chinatown
or
downtown
south,
and
I
think
that
what
we
see
is
like
businesses
and
operations
that
just
don't
reflect
the
needs
of
communities.
So
it
would
be
frankly
inspiring
to
see
the
city
actually
give
grants
and
funding
to
community
groups
to
develop
and
revitalize
those
commercial
spaces,
those
retail
spaces,
so
that
they
actually
meet
the
needs
of
the
people
who
live
here
and
that
always
always
includes
unhoused
and
homeless
people
who
don't
have
access
to
a
lot
of
amenities.
K
A
L
B
M
M
We
are
dealing
with
a
crisis
of
a
different
nature.
The
trouble
begins
actually
the
moment
that
I
step
outside
of
my
door
early
in
the
morning.
The
first
individual
sleeping
at
the
doorsteps
of
small
businesses
on
davey
street
didn't
bother
me,
but
that
was
only
the
beginning.
I've
been
followed,
yelled
at
insulted
and
harassed
in
multiple
occasions
or
early
mornings,
in
one
of
the
most
populous
neighborhoods
in
the
city,
a
neighborhood
with
a
larger
with
a
large
renter
population
such
as
myself.
I
carry
a
whistle
that
I
got
from
a
police
tent
with
me.
M
I
run
sometimes
on
occasions
to
escape
the
situation,
but
I
know
how
little
that
is
effective.
In
reality,
often
I
take
public
transit
to
work
in
downtown
east
side.
I
was
waiting
for
my
bus
on
granville
street
a
couple
weeks
ago,
when
a
fellow
individual
holding
a
needle,
approached
to
stop
cursing
me
for
ruining
his
life
a
needle.
I
don't
think
I
have
to
explain
what
that
really
means.
I
ran
along
granville
and
took
a
cab
home
riding.
M
The
bus
is
also
no
pleasure
watching
my
fellow
citizens,
sometimes
as
young
as
late
teens,
barely
surviving,
is
very
heartbreaking
and
it
has
become
more
widespread
than
sort
of
getting
outside
of
downtown
east
side,
but
especially
the
ones
run
through
downtown
eastside
and,
unfortunately
getting
vandalized
a
lot
more
often.
I
rode
a
bus
about
a
month
ago
when
an
individual
puked
in
front
of
me,
while
he
was
drawing
on
another
seed
with
a
white
marker.
A
couple
days
ago,
I
sat
on
a
bus
chair
that
was
urinated
on
taking
the
bus
home.
M
It
was
very
disgusting,
and
this
is
the
public
infrastructure
that
we
in
vancouver
are
most
proud
of
the
bus
that
I
got
that
I
go
to
return
home.
The
bus.
Stop
that
I
go
to
to
return
home
is
located
on
powell
street
next
to
a
supervised
consumption
site.
The
glass
pane
on
the
stove
shelter
was
shattered
by
a
fellow
individual.
While
I
was
waiting
for
my
bus,
I
was
traumatized
so
much
that
I
couldn't
go
back
to
work
for
a
week,
fearing
that
it
will
happen
again
to
me.
M
Isn't
this
overwhelming
that
I
have
to
go
through
this
daily?
Just
on
my
commute
at
least,
but
of
course
the
worst
does
walking
in
downtown
east
side.
It
is
quiet
apocalyptic
in
the
way
that
it
shows
the
demise
of
the
city
as
a
petite
minority
female.
I
find
it
difficult
to
feel
safe.
The
sidewalks
are
blocked
by
the
people
and
it's
filthy
with
pieces
garbage
knee,
builds
and
stolen
objects.
I
have
to
walk
along
the
street
to
take
refuge
from
the
sidewalk.
M
Thinking
about
the
fact
that
eight
females
sit
in
this
council
and
none
really
is
concerned
about
the
public
safety
for
women
blows
my
mind,
I
keep
journaling
my
commute
and
text
messages
to
my
partner,
fearing
that
one
day
something
will
happen
to
me,
for
these
very
reasons
when
I
say
the
eyes
on
the
street
strategy
is
not
as
much
relevant
anymore
is
because
these
incidents
mostly
happen
with
people
around
coexistence.
If
we
could
call
it
that
way,
doesn't
work
anymore.
M
G
Thanks
so
much,
I
really
appreciate
you
making
the
time
to
speak
to
council
today
and
just
before
I
ask
you
a
question.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
as
a
woman
and
as
a
city
counselor
also,
but
personally
even
I
have
concerns
about
public
safety
and
walking
in
our
city.
So
I
just
didn't
want
you
to
think
that
those
comments
were
lost
on
me.
I
did
want
to
ask
you:
what
is
it
you
had
talked
about
eyes
on
the
street,
not
working?
What
do
you
think
we
need
to
do?
G
M
M
I
know
that
this
is
mostly
a
provincial
issue,
but
the
city
has
to
be
on
the
side
of
the
people
and
the
residents.
It
has
to
resonate
with
what
the
people
want,
not
being
sort
of
a
burden
itself
being
a
blockade
and
and
what
the
city
could
get
to
and-
and
I
assume
the
the
view
for
the
social
housing
that
is
happening
around
the
city
is
helping.
I'm
I'm
not
really
an
expert
in
that
field,
but
what
I'm
seeing
is
the
way
that
the
streets
are
being
treated.
M
G
Suppose,
thank
you.
I
suppose
what
I'm
asking
also
is-
and
I
understand
you
know
policing
is-
is
the
majority
of
that
is
provincial
and
housing-
also
provincial
and
federal,
but
we
here
at
city
council
consider
rezonings.
So
when
bc
housing
wants
to
rezone
a
property
to
make
it
social
housing,
we
look
at
the
merits
of
the
application.
G
F
G
M
A
Appreciate
that
we
all
right
those
three
minutes,
I'm
sorry
to
cut
you
off.
We
are
in
our
three
minutes
counselors,
if
you
just
make
sure
leave
enough
time
for
folks
to
reply.
That
would
be
appreciated
thanks,
speaker
for
participating
today,
and
there
are
no
other
questions
for
you,
so
I'll
move
to
the
next
speaker.
Thank
you.
We
have
craig
james
speaker,
number,
eight
of
62.
F
Thank
you.
My
name
is
craig
james.
I
live
and
own
a
small
business
on
robson
street
in
downtown
vancouver,
based
on
how
this
whole
process
has
gone
so
far.
I
have
very
little
faith
that,
speaking
to
you
will
do
any
good
at
all,
but
I
don't
really
know
what
else
to
do
like
too
many
people
for
the
last
year
and
some
I've
been
exposed
to
more
needles,
human
feces,
garbage
and
people
drugged
out
in
front
of
the
parking
garage
than
I
could
have
ever
dreamed.
F
Having
lived
in
this
same
spot
for
over
15
years,
I
can
actually
say
that
in
the
area
things
are
changing
for
the
worst
over
the
last
two.
I
still
feel
safe
enough,
but
many
of
my
neighbors
unfortunately
do
not
several
have
left
some
may
soon
and
others
ask
me
to
walk
our
dogs
to
go
shopping
together,
so
they're
not
alone,
but
unfortunately
that
seems
to
be
the
new,
normal
downtown
and
that's
far
from
world
class.
F
While
I
appreciate
the
city
and
provinces
trying
to
tackle
homelessness
and
help
those
with
mental
health
challenges,
the
trickle-down
effect
has
led
to
our
local
community
being
terrorized
by
one
individual
for
months.
As
someone
with
ocpd
struggling
with
my
mental
health
issues,
I
feel
for
people
who
have
their
own
difficulties.
F
However,
there
comes
a
point
when
the
actions
of
one
can't
be
more
important
than
the
thousands
who
are
left
with
little
choice,
but,
needless
to
suffer,
these
actions
should
not
be
allowed
to
trigger
or
create
new
traumas,
like
the
situation
is
doing
to
me
or
do
harm
to
innocent
bystanders.
As
you
said
before
the
last
meeting,
mr
mayor,
everybody
deserves
to
feel
safe
as
many
as
five
to
seven
days
a
week,
one
to
four
times
a
day
from
30
minutes
to
two
hours
at
a
time
as
early
as
five
a.m.
F
We're
treated
to
hysterical
outbursts
by
the
same
guy
that
3-1-1
vpb
non-emerge,
if
you
can
ever
get
a
hold
of
them
and
uniform
officers
seem
powerless
or
unwilling
to
do
anything
about,
despite
the
aggressive
panhandling,
disturbing
the
peace,
menacing
behavior,
excessive
profanity,
threats
of
violence
and
the
damage
to
public
and
private
property.
Despite
the
pleas
of
residents
in
the
area.
Despite
the
trespass
prevention
program,
despite
the
impact
of
multiple
robson
street
businesses,
hotels
and
their
out-of-town
guests,
people
are
afraid
it
can't
continue.
F
He
could
get
food
and
help
from
the
city,
but
he
prefers
to
sit
in
front
of
tim
screaming
that
he's
being
raped
until
someone
gives
him
a
donut
or
a
sandwich,
but
even
then
he's
only
quiet
for
a
few
minutes
until
the
screaming
begins
again
vpd's
say
crown,
council
won't
prosecute
and
he's
just
going
to
keep
coming
back.
So
there
isn't
anything
they
can.
Do.
F
Two
officers
told
me
that,
when
trying
to
police
situations
like
this,
they
often
receive
so
much
feedback
and
blowback
from
the
public
that
they're
worried
about
ending
up
getting
trashed
on
twitter.
If
a
video
goes
viral,
so
they
just
don't
get
involved.
I
did
send
over
a
video
taken
prior
to
the
last
meeting
for
you
to
see
what
I'm
talking
about,
but
due
to
privacy
issues
it
won't
be
played.
I
was,
however,
told
that
I
could
still
play
the
audio.
F
It
will
obviously
be
harder
to
hear
clearly
playing
it
through
the
phone
than
if
I
were
there
in
person,
but
I
think
it
is
still
very
important.
The
video
is
quite
straightforward
and
impactful,
but
to
explain
what's
happening
so
you
can
hopefully
visualize
the
first
10
seconds
is
shot
from
a
bit
of
a
distance
and
is
therefore
a
bit
quieter
he's
screaming
at
the
top
of
his
lungs
about
not
having
any
money.
F
The
next
portion
filmed
closer,
showing
him
showed
him
violently,
throwing
his
bag
and
himself
around
the
ground
after
a
security
guard
asked
him
to
please
stop
screaming
and
then
saying
they
would
have
to
call
the
police
if
he
didn't
calm
down
most
days
and
episodes
are
very
much
like
this.
If
not
worse,
I
will
say
this
audio
could
be
triggering
for
some,
particularly
if
you
suffer
from
any
sensory
traumas.
So
you
may
want
to
mute
your
audio
for
60
seconds.
A
B
A
F
E
F
Imagine,
hearing
that
and
worse
over
and
over
day
after
day,
you
try
sleeping
living
or
working
from
home
through
that
no
one
should
have
to
go
through
what
he's
going
through,
but
the
thousands
of
people
who
live,
pay,
taxes
and
vote
in
the
area
shouldn't
have
to
go
through
what
he's
going
through
either.
If
he
wasn't
screaming
it
would
not
be
an
issue
but
becoming
unbearable.
This
wouldn't
be
tolerated
long
in
front
of
city
hall
or
in
point
grey
or
in
front
of
your
house.
The
effect
can
be
felt
in
the
neighborhood.
F
Even
when
he's
not
here,
people
are
traumatized
frustrated
and
fed
up.
They
can't
sleep.
Some
are
moving
or
quitting
their
jobs.
Some
area
residents
don't
feel
safe
on
the
streets
when
he's
around
visitors
and
tourists
are
leaving
or
avoiding
businesses
or
suffering,
and
no
one
will
help.
Please
do
something
for
him,
or
at
least
give
some
actual
support
to
those
people
who
can
doing
nothing
almost
sends
the
message
that
if
you
have
mental
health
problems,
you
can
do
basically
anything
without
fear
of
repercussion
and
scream
in
the
street.
F
A
G
F
I
don't
think
that
is
correct,
whether
it's
medic,
I
don't
need
institutionalization
or
medication,
or
I
don't
think
the
police
need
to
come
and
like
arrest
him
either,
but
he
can't
be
just
allowed
to
walk
through
the
streets
screaming
or
sit
out
in
front
of
buildings
and
apartments
for
hours
screaming
it's
traumatizing.
It's
triggering
it's
unbelievable
and
I
echoes
some
of
the
sentiments
in
my
last
speaker.
G
F
I
do
think
consideration
needs
to
be
paid
to
how
the
impact
of
facilities
like
this
will
affect
neighbors.
I
have
noticed
a
correlation
in
the
last
two
years,
with
the
influx
of
housing
being
provided
in
the
downtown
area,
as
I'm
only
a
couple
blocks
from
granville
street.
It
is,
as
I
said
at
the
beginning,
a
big
change
in
the
last
two
years.
It
is
much
less
comfortable,
downtown
it's
dirty
or
it
feels
unsafer.
F
It's
just
it's
not
a
place
to
be
friends
and
family,
don't
want
to
come
visit,
and
I
feel
it's
all
based
on
the
fact
that
it
all
started
when
the
last
two
years,
or
so
once
the
housing
project
started
in
the
downtown
area,
to
sort
of
give
some
people
some
space.
Now
I
realize
they
should
have
some
space,
but
their
impact
is
impacting
the
rest
of
us.
G
I
hear
your
frustration
and
I
have
45
seconds
left.
I
don't
hear
you
saying
that
you
don't
want
social
housing
in
your
neighborhood,
but
that
this
is
is
concerning
it's
infringing
on
your
rights
and
your
ability
to
walk
down
your
street.
So
if
there
was
adequate
supports
where
people
who
had
mental
health
issues,
addiction
issues
had
those
supports
and
that
support
team,
would
you
be
supportive
of
that?
Would
you
think
that
that
would
help
with
the
issues
that
you're
experiencing
in
your
neighborhood.
F
G
A
A
A
N
Fabulous
thanks
so
much.
I
want
to
start
by
acknowledging
that
I'm
an
uninvited
settler
on
the
territories
of
the
muslim
squamish
and
so
with
two
people-
I'm
queer
disabled,
non-binary,
jewish
and
a
former
sex
worker,
I'm
speaking
to
you
today,
as
the
community
co-executive
director
of
pace
society,
which
is
a
buy
within
four
sex
workers,
rights
and
advocacy
education
and
support
organization
in
the
downtown
east
side
that
serves
sex
workers
of
all
genders.
N
I
want
to
thank
chemical
for
hearing
me
today
and
for
your
ongoing
support
of
the
work
that
pace
does,
but
please
allow
me
to
begin
by
saying
that
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
extreme
distaste
I
have
felt
for
the
fact
that
council
has
prioritized
community
policing,
centers
and
business
associations,
business
improvement
associations.
Pardon
me
over
hearing
from
the
public
on
this
issue.
N
I
don't
understand
how
people
can
be
quite
so
numb
to
human
suffering,
unfortunately,
between
the
platforming
of
businesses
that
seem
to
be
so
enraged
about
feces
and
the
vpd's
expanded
trespassing
prevention
program.
It
has
become
really
crystal
clear
that
in
vancouver,
businesses
are
seen
as
more
important
than
human
beings.
Their
tax
dollars
are
more
important
and
their
voices
are
more
important
and
they
shouldn't
be
because
protecting
private
property
isn't
public
safety.
N
In
a
recent
internal
survey
of
75
members
at
pace,
we
found
that
70
of
the
members
polled
do
not
feel
safer
with
a
police
presence,
while
they
try
to
work.
84
percent
found
that
during
interactions
with
police
police
were
disrespectful
to
them
and
57
of
people
who
reported
harms
related
to
their
work,
found
police
to
be
unhelpful
or
very
unhelpful
25.
They
would
not
report
to
police
in
the
future
to
us.
Public
safety
means
acknowledging
and
unraveling
systemic
racism,
colonialism
and
poverty.
N
It
means
acknowledging
that
police
aren't
safe
for
drug
users,
sex
workers,
black
indigenous
or
persons
of
color
and
two-spirit
lgbtq.
Folks,
I
think
public
safety
isn't
defined
by
how
often
someone
commits
a
crime
or
how
many
times
they
are
arrested,
but
how
we
address
justice
for
the
most
marginalized.
N
N
Instead,
I
think
many
of
the
following
things
could
be
considered:
public
safety,
expanding
safe
supply
immediately,
providing
safe
and
affordable
housing.
Mental
health
support,
providing
primary
care,
physicians,
providing
mail
service,
providing
affordable
access
to
an
accessible
transportation,
providing
interpreters
for
asl
and
a
myriad
of
other
languages
for
folks
in
the
downtown
eastside,
investing
in
public
space
and
in
community
centers
and
in
places
where
people
can
meaningfully
spend
their
time
and
not
be
pushed
out
of
doorways.
N
It
means
providing
more
public
bathrooms
and
investing
in
grassroots
projects,
and
certainly
it
involves
investing
in
alternatives
to
in
911.
I'd
like
to
echo
the
calls
of
the
d1604
people's
budget,
which
are
peer-led
non-violent
mental
health
care.
Certain
mental
health
services.
Pardon
me
supports
and
wellness
checks,
accessible,
non-market
housing
and
the
displacement
of
houseless
people,
peer-led,
indoor
sex
worker
spaces,
peer-led
access
to
safe
drug
supply,
land
back
in
a
traditional
healing
center
at
crab
park
and
participatory
budgeting.
Thanks
once
again
to
council
for
hearing
me
today,.
N
N
You
can't
decolonize
police
police
were
meant
to
uphold
colonialism
and
private
property,
and
that's
about
it,
and
we
know
that
reforms
don't
work
and
they
are
costly
and
often
a
waste
of
time
where
another
10
years
goes
by
and
then
we
finally
get
a
review,
and
that
takes
two
years
to
get
a
report,
and
then
nothing
gets
done
with
that
report.
Instead,
people
should
be
listening
to
what
community
is
saying,
because
we
aren't
asking
for
more
car
87
programs
we're
asking
for
safety.
That
does
not
rely
on
police.
N
Just
like
it's
not
going
to
work,
there's
already
tons
of
police
getting
paid
a
great
wage
and
they
aren't
doing
anything
about
graffiti,
which,
in
my
mind,
is
very
much
not
a
crime,
although
it
might
be
seen
as
public
mischief,
and
I
think
we
really
need
to
be
focusing
on
how
we
undo
some
of
the
harms
of
colonialism,
because
that's
what's
created
the
sort
of
nightmare
escape
that
we
sometimes
have
in
the
downtown
eastside.
And
what
should
the
city
do?
N
I
think
the
city
should
prioritize
the
safety
of
drug
users
of
sex
workers
of
homeless
people
of
bypoc
people
of
queer
people
of
disabled
people.
You
need
to
prioritize
people
period,
not
businesses,
you
need
to
prioritize
renters
and
not
owners.
You
need
to
be
brave
about
it,
because
we
need
you
to
be
allies
in
more
than
just
words.
We
need
you
to
put
people
on
the
margins.
First,
not
business
improvement,
association.
A
A
K
In
particular,
I
think
we're
really
underestimating
the
victims
of
crime
who
are
among
the
most
vulnerable,
and
that
kind
of
comes
from
this
weird
conflation
that
I
see
of
criminals
being
homeless
people
or
being
representative
of
homeless
people,
which,
when
I
do
think
that
homeless
people
are
often
the
most
common
victim
of
many
of
these
crimes
that
just
do
not
get
reported.
There's
a
lot
of
reasons
why
people
under
report,
like
some
of
them,
have
been
mentioned
with
the
inability
to
get
through
with
drop
calls.
K
So,
like
you
know,
you
see
neighbors
calling
all
the
time
saying
I've
been
on
hold
for
four
hours.
They
won't
even
send
anyone
or
open
the
case
file,
there's
also
the
inaccessibility
of
the
process,
there's
english
language
barriers
for
sure.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
aunties
in
in
chinatown
and
within
by
park,
communities
who
don't
feel
like
they
can
properly
communicate
when
calling
into
police
and
feel
like
they're
being
told
that
they're
wasting
time,
and
so
they
don't
call
in
there's.
K
Also
a
lot
of
people
who
are
racialized
may
not
feel
comfortable
with
police
because
of
experiences
where
they
have
called
as
a
victim.
And
then,
when
police
arrived
on
the
scene,
they
were
kind
of
treated
as
a
perpetrator
instead,
because
automatic
assumptions
that
were
made
if
you
do
get
through
the
process.
K
So
like
thinking
about
seniors
in
chinatown.
If
you
have
to
walk
everywhere,
because
you
don't
have
a
car
and
you
do
manage
to
report,
someone
who
has
assaulted
you
and
that
person
is
back
out
on
the
street,
now
you're
afraid
that
you're
going
to
be
targeted
for
having
niched
on
them.
Essentially-
and
this
is
exacerbated
especially
for
homeless
people,
because
you
don't
have
a
place
where
you
can
necessarily
hide
after
going
through
the
reporting
and
then
so.
K
There's
been
a
lot
of
focus
on
mental
health
and
trauma
and
the
low
social
determinants
of
health
of
chronic
offenders,
but
not
no
attention
to
the
impacts
on
victims
of
violence,
especially
repeat,
violence,
so
like
if,
if
you're,
an
ethnic
or
religious
minority,
you
might
have
homophobic
or
anti-religious
or
anti-or
like
racist
slurs.
On
top
of
the
violence
that
you're
inflicting
that.
That
takes
a
mental
health
toll
on
you
and
so
there's
a
commitment
by
the
city
to
anti-racism.
K
A
K
Continue
so
like
I
went
to
the
protest
I
reported
to
please
someone
gave
a
statement,
they
didn't
even
call
my
parents
initially
and
then,
and
then
nothing
happened.
That
person
was
still
out.
I
caught
them
years
later,
because
you
know
they
had
a
lot
of
hardship
in
their
life,
and
so
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
they
just
like
were
found
not
to
be
responsible
for
their
actions
and
or
because
of
the
traumas
that
they
had
experienced
growing
up.
K
K
A
A
G
Can
I
ask
you
that
you
had
talked
about
the
trauma
that
is
left
with
you,
I'm
trying
to
be
high-level
gear,
but
when
you,
when
you
signed
up
to
speak,
you
didn't
want
to
give
your
last
name.
You
also
had
noted
that
there
are
people
who
are
out
there
who
get
very
upset
when
other
people
speak
up
their
truths
about
the
violence
that
has
happened
to
them,
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
you
feel
that
this
is
a
safe
space
or
if
you
you
didn't
feel
that
you'd
be
safe.
K
I
mean,
I
think,
a
part
of
it
is
just
stigma
of
sexual
assault,
especially
as
a
child,
just
regardless
of
the
subject
matter
is
so
something
I'm
like.
I'm
aware,
like
obviously
as
a
kid
I
had,
you
know,
faults
in
it,
but
it's
just
you
know.
I
don't
want
people
to
google
my
name
and
see
this
and
then
that's
the
first
thing
they
read
about
me.
So
it's
not
necessarily
my
perspective,
like
the
need
for
privacy,
for
me,
is
more
just.
G
K
K
K
And
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
matter
of
you
know
when
you're
dealing
with
upper
levels
of
government
kind
of
communicating
that
to
people
that,
like
people,
are
losing
faith
in
the
ability
to
be
protected
when
they
go
for
it
and
then
with
retaliation
in
particular
like
that.
That
makes
it
even
harder
like
if
you're
and
and
like
I
was,
I
spent
a
period
of
time
where
I
was
on
the
street
when
I
was
in
my
early
twenties
and
even
within
shelters.
K
G
F
O
O
With
the
current
policy
of
dispersing
supportive
housing
to
every
corner
of
the
city,
police
resources
are
being
spread,
thinner
and
thinner
in
complete
disregard
for
concerns
raised
by
the
vpd.
This
results
in
longer
wait
times
for
police
to
arrive
and
increase
numbers
of
calls
that
simply
can't
be
answered.
This
puts
the
public
at
an
elevated
risk
of
being
victimized
by
crimes
for
which
no
suspect
is
ever
apprehended.
O
Mental
illness
is
a
common
thread
to
the
random
stranger
attacks
that
are
plaguing
our
city.
People
with
sound
mental
health,
don't
sucker,
punch
visually
impaired,
seniors
in
crosswalks
or
chase
women
down
the
sidewalk,
brandishing
shards
of
broken
glass
advocates
for
the
homeless
estimate
that
at
least
50
percent
of
the
homeless
in
vancouver
suffer
from
mental
illness.
Deputy
chief
chao,
the
bpd
has
recently
stated
that
84
percent
of
police
calls
that
involve
mental
illness,
involve
danger,
violence
or
criminality.
O
Yet
the
city
and
the
province
continue
to
push
for
the
warehousing
of
large
numbers
of
the
mentally
ill
are
addicted
together
in
one
building.
Persons
with
mental
health
challenges
or
addiction
cannot
be
expected
to
spontaneously
heal
themselves
stacking.
These
hapless
individuals
in
single
room,
apartments
and
towers
with
many
others
with
untreated
mental
health
challenges
and
addictions
is
a
recipe
for
conflict
and
violence.
People
are
victimized
in
these
projects
by
others
who
have
mental
health
or
addiction
issues.
O
The
current
provincial
and
city
policy
of
housing,
the
homeless
and
the
tall
towers
also
has
the
effect
of
marking
the
residents
for
victimization
by
criminals
living
outside
the
projects.
It's
equivalent
to
putting
a
bat
signal
on
top
of
the
project
to
help
drug
dealers
and
other
thugs
spot
where
to
find
large
numbers
of
vulnerable
people
to
victimize
one-stop
shopping
for
the
underworld,
putting
support
of
housing
projects
adjacent
to
transit
stations
compounds
the
problem
by
providing
rapid
access
and
escape
by
the
victimizers,
making
effective,
policing,
impossible.
O
So
they
don't
end
up
victimizing
each
other
and
the
communities
in
which
they
live
simply
warehousing
them
together
in
large
congregate
settings
across
the
city
has
the
effect
of
making
every
neighborhood
unsafe.
It's
just
a
matter
of
time
before
someone
gets
killed
by
a
person
having
a
bad
trip
or
a
mental
health
breakdown.
O
Why
is
the
city
sitting
back
and
waiting
for
that
to
happen
before
stepping
back
from
the
failed
housing
first
model,
which
has
been
proven
to
serve
neither
the
mentally
ill
nor
the
communities
into
which
these
ill-conceived
and
poorly
executed
processes
projects
are
thrust?
I've
heard
today,
councillor
de
genova
asking
callers
whether
supportive
housing
should
not
be
built
unless
supportive
services
are
provided.
O
O
This
means
that
site
selection
and
tenant
composition
must
carefully
consider
the
risk
such
projects
posed
to
the
particular
community,
where
the
project
is
proposed,
such
as
the
presence
of
an
adjacent
school
and
a
playground,
rather
than
focusing
on
comparatively
unimportant
issues
such
as
the
shadowing
that
the
building
will
cause
the
size
of
the
projects
must
also
be
modest.
To
ensure
that
the
community
will
be
able
to
absorb
the
impact
of
the
problems
that
will
invariably
arise.
O
B
P
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
wally
warglet,
the
executive
director
of
the
gastown
business
improvement
society.
I've
been
very
privileged
for
the
last
year
in
this
role
in
representing
over
500
businesses
in
gastown.
I've
also
had
the
opportunity
to
build
really
solid
relationships
with
some
of
the
residents
in
this
neighborhood
and
had
a
chance
to
talk
with
tourists
who
have
visited
our
neighborhood
over
the
course
of
the
last
few
weeks
and
can
echo
many
of
the
things
that
have
been
talked
about
here
today,
as
well
as
a
couple
weeks
ago.
P
At
this
special
meeting.
I
don't
need
to
go
into
the
details
too
much.
I
think,
we've
all
understood
where
our
city
currently
is
at
and
the
fact
that
I
think
we
reach
this
kind
of
pivotal
point
where
our
citizens
have
lost
faith
in
their
leaders.
Municipal,
provincial
federal
we've
heard
all
of
the
things
here
about
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
enough
support
systems
to
support
the
folks
that
are
suffering
in
our
cities.
P
We
don't
have
enough
housing
in
conversations
that
we
have
with
some
of
the
folks
that
do
use
the
streets
of
gas
town
as
a
place
to
sleep.
Many
of
them
don't
feel
safe
in
the
housing
that
is
available
multiple
times.
We
have
heard
and
have
tried
with
2-1-1,
to
get
shelter
space
for
many
of
these
folks,
and
we
hear
time
and
time
again,
they
do
not
feel
safe
there,
but
yet
we
continue
to
build
these
unsafe
places.
P
We
of
course,
have
the
tragic
incident
of
the
fire
of
the
sro
here
in
our
neighborhood
a
few
weeks
back
and
in
talking
with
many
of
the
folks
who
live
in
those
spaces
who
manage
those
spaces,
they
also
say
the
same
thing.
These
are
not
the
kinds
of
housing
that
we
need
for
our
citizens.
Yet
we
have
a
city
that
continues
to
protect
these
spaces
and
I
think
there's
just
a
question
is
why
do
we
do
that?
The
thing
I'm
probably
most
disappointed
with,
though,
is
in
a
year's
time.
P
I've
had
a
hundred
of
these
exact
types
of
conversations.
I've
had
it
with
many
of
the
council.
I've
had
it
with
many
business
leaders,
I've
had
it
with
provincial
leaders.
We
even
had
a
meeting
back
in
november
with
community
leaders
about
these
issues
and
the
city
manager
presented
to
this
council
a
memo
on
december
16th
last
year.
That
also
outlined
all
these
issues.
I'm
not
sure
why
we
have
to
continually
have
these
conversations,
but
we
continually
do
and
see
no
real
action.
P
This
council
has
an
opportunity
to
fix
that
to
write
this.
We
have
the
capital
plan
that
is
happening
right
now,
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
went
from
zero
dollars
to
six
million
dollars
in
that
budget.
That
is
not
nearly
enough
to
do
what
is
necessary
to
fix
this
neighborhood
and
to
bring
it
back
to
the
gym
that
it
needs
to
be
and
should
be
in
the
centerpiece
of
this
amazing
city.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
it
has
me
concerned
that
that
work
is
not
happening.
P
All
we're
doing
is
complaining.
I'm
sick
of
hearing
complaints,
I'd
like
to
see
some
real
action
happen.
We
have
businesses
right
now
in
our
neighborhood
who
are
considering
leaving
vancouver.
We've
heard
countless
people
here
in
this
meeting
and
in
countless
meetings
before
this
of
residents
leaving
the
neighborhood
leaving
the
city
because
they
don't
feel
safe.
They
don't
feel
welcome
now
we're
also
having
these
conversations
with
businesses.
P
P
P
There
is
a
lack
of
real,
I
think
concentration
on
some
of
the
root
issues.
Here
we
brought
some
of
those
to
the
province
and
we
are
hoping
that
they
also
do
their
job.
We
know
this
isn't
just
the
city's
job,
it's
going
to
take
a
coordinated
effort,
and
we
really
really
hope
that
we
can
get
moving
on
this.
And,
finally,
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
lack
of
support
services
and
the
lack
of
housing.
There
are
other
alternatives
to
fixing
some
of
these
issues
that
we
see
on
our
streets.
P
I
Thanks
mara,
thanks
wally,
for
speaking,
I
have
one
question
for
you
and
just
kind
of
summing:
it
up
you're,
really
saying
that
if
you
keep
doing
what
you've
always
done,
you're
going
to
get
what
you've
always
gotten
and
we're
getting
more
of
it,
so
you're
talking
fundamentally
about
a
paradigm
shift,
doing
some
things
differently
and
having
some
courage
to
challenge
the
status
quo.
Of
how
we've
been
trying
to
deal
with
the
issues.
Is
that
a
fair
take
away.
P
Yeah,
I
think
it's,
I
think,
that's
exactly
correct.
I
think
you
know
when
you
look
at
just
the
karma
program
and
and
a
year
ago
I
knew
nothing
about
this.
All
I
knew
was
in
over
a
decade
of
being
in
this
neighborhood.
I
saw
a
movement
from
real
empathy
that
this
neighborhood
had
in
a
way
of
working
together
with
many
different
socio-economic
groups,
moved
to
a
point
of
apathy,
because
there
was
just
so
much
decay
happening
around
our
streets
and
yet
we,
you
know
we
continue
to
do
the
same
things.
P
It's
just
time
to
look
at
some
alternative
ways
to
get
things
done
and
and
to
see
a
real
investment
in
the
city
on
some
of
the
core
services.
Just
the
the
effect
of
you
know
having
a
large
enough
garbage
bins
in
tourist
areas
and
having
lights
that
work
and
clean.
Those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
just
we.
We
have
ability
to
change
today
and
to
make
a
difference.
This
whole
broken
windows.
I
A
Q
Me
the
opportunity
to
share
I'll
stick
to
a
couple
of
points
as
public
and
personal
health
requires
members
of
the
public
to
advise
their
doctors
of
symptoms
of
illness.
They
might
have
so
does.
Public
and
personal
safety
require
members
of
the
public
to
let
police
know
of
incidents
or
signs
of
safety
being
compromised
at
risk.
There
has
recently
been
concern
regarding
some
british
colombians
not
having
access
to
a
family
physician
to
let
them
know
symptoms
of
illness.
Q
I
am
concerned
that
a
similar
level
of
concern
has
not
been
recognized
by
those
who
can
address
the
challenges.
People
in
several
municipalities
are
experiencing
and
have
for
several
years
when
trying
to
let
people
know
police,
know
of
suspicious
activity
and
criminal
activity
that
has
occurred
late
last
month.
There
was
media
coverage
regarding
non-emergency
calls
to
police
being
abandoned
by
callers.
Q
I
was
reassured
when
vancouver
police
department
chief
palmer,
said
during
a
tv
interview
that
vancouver
police
personnel
are
not
those
answering
the
calls
when
people
express
concerns
to
me
regarding
long
wait
times
when
calling
police
for
an
unknown
emergency
report
causing
some
people
to
also
express
concern
with
police,
I'm
sure
to
share
that
the
calls
are
not
answered
by
police
or
police
department
detachment
employees.
It
is
people
at
ecom,
an
agency
contracted
to
take
non-emergency
and
emergency
calls
for
some
policing
agencies.
Q
Last
month
I
made
a
non-emergency
call
to
report
a
drug
deal
I
witnessed
in
the
afternoon.
I
first
called
that
afternoon,
but
after
waiting
on
hold,
I
had
to
abandon
the
call.
As
I
had
an
appointment,
I
called
again
at
10
32
pm
that
evening
I
was
on
hold
until
12
46
a.m,
that's
two
hours
and
14
minutes,
and
at
that
time
I
did
not
think
there
would
be
many
of
us
trying
to
report
activity
such
as
a
drug
deal
in
a
quiet,
residential
neighborhood.
The
license
plate.
Q
I
provided
was
that
of
a
drug
dealer
known
to
police.
I'm
aware
of
non-emergency
calls
being
answered
by
e-com
call
takers
who
have
declined
to
take
reports,
in
one
case,
the
person
that
brought
this
to
me.
I
asked
him
to
call
again:
please
send
me
the
video
surveillance
he
wanted
to
provide.
Please
I
afforded
the
surveillance
to
our
metro,
vancouver,
transit
police,
neighborhood
officer,
who
was
able
to
identify
the
offender
on
the
video
surveillance
and
provide
this
information
to
the
officer
assigned
the
file.
Q
After
the
second
call
taker
to
report,
transit
police
have
maintained
their
in-house
call,
taking
which
I
I've
not
heard
any
more
experience
of
delays.
They
also
have
a
text
option
for
reporting,
which
is
also
promptly
responded
to.
I'm
also
aware
of
9-1-1
calls
on
hold
when,
for
example,
a
woman
called
us,
her
elderly
dad
was
having
chest
pain
and
a
retail
loss
prevention
officer,
and
his
team
were
following
a
man
who
had
taken
merchandise's
significant
out
value
from
the
store
where
they
were
employed.
That
was
a
medical
emergency
and
a
crime
in
progress.
Q
This
just
recently
on
a
monday
afternoon,
I
called
9-1-1
as
a
man
who
was
either
suffering
a
psychotic
episode
or
under
the
influence
of
dog
team
running
and
screaming
onto
our
street,
hiding
briefly
behind
the
card
and
running
and
jumping
three
feet,
plus
straight
up
into
the
yard,
then
lying
on
his
back
to
make
a
phone
call.
He
hid
in
foliage
in
the
yard,
until
a
car
pulled
onto
the
street,
ran
to
get
in
the
passenger
seat.
Q
The
license
plate
provided
to
police
identified
the
cars
belonging
to
a
woman
who
had
multiple
interactions
with
police
due
to
her
suffering
with
mental
illness.
Police
not
only
need
to
have
an
accessible
system
through
which
police
can
report
suspicious
and
criminal
activity.
Our
health
care
system
must
provide
care
for
those
suffering
with
mental
illness
and
self-medicating
or
otherwise
using
illicit
drugs.
When
I
started
my
nurses
training
50
years
ago,
it
included
caring
for
and
treating
those
with
mental
illness.
Q
Virtually
all
the
people
left
the
hospital
care
to
live
full
lives
not
just
exist
on
street
sprint
parks
and
self-medicate,
with
illicit
drugs
to
numb
the
pain
of
their
untreated
mental
illness.
Our
current
health
care
system,
abdicating,
the
responsibility
of
accessible,
effective
care
for
those
suffering
with
mental
illness,
has
caused
police
police
involvement,
though
mental
illness
is
not
a
crime
optimizing
public
safety
includes
steps
will
also
stop
the
misplaced
criticism
and
inappropriate
expectations
of
police.
I
humbly
suggest
referencing
previous
thank
vermeer.
Q
Philip
owens
popular
strategy
which
focused
on
prevention,
harm
reduction,
treatment
and
enforcement,
and
I
believe,
surveillance
cameras
of
public
streets
would
at
least
assist
with
prevention,
harm
reduction,
identification
of
offenders
and
enforcement.
A
recent
letter
in
a
vancouver
paper
included
the
following
query:
what
are
you
doing
on
the
street
that
requires
privacy
and
in
closing
and
dispose
robert
peel,
the
police
to
the
people
and
the
people
are
the
police?
Q
G
Thanks
so
much
for
sharing
your
experience
and
that
must
be
really
frustrating
to
call
and
you
know,
dedicate
hours
to
waiting
on
the
phone
and
then
call
back,
and
then
it
takes
another
two
hours
waiting
on
the
phone
when
chief
palmer
was
was
speaking
to
us.
He
said
you
know
regarding
crimes
being
under
reported
and
the
issues
with
econ
and
70
000
calls
that
are
abandoned
a
year
that
we
can
drop
crime
to
zero
in
this
city.
G
If
we
just
don't
answer
the
calls,
I'm
wondering
if,
if
you
think,
maybe
when
some
people
suggest
crime
is
down
it's
because
there
are
people
not
reporting
crimes,
for
the
reasons
that
you've
stated
that
they
don't
have
that
dedication.
They
can't
take
that
time
away
from
what
they're
doing
or
they
feel
that
nothing's
going
to
be
dealt
with
or
nothing's
going
to
happen.
Q
Well,
as
chief
palmer
said,
you
could
go
down
to
zero.
I
mean
people
cannot
report,
but
the
other
concern
I
have
is:
if
people
can't
report
early
indications
or
a
crime
about
to
take
place,
it
will
be
worse
and
if
there
isn't
the
reporting
police
can't
act,
so
I
think
it
more
enables
those
who
do
commit
crimes.
Q
I'm
just
saying
that
just
looking
at
things,
logically,
if
somebody
doesn't
think
anything's
going
to
happen
and
as
I
said,
some
people
have
given
up
calling
I've
had
businesses
say
I
can't
stay
on
hold
I've
got
a
business
to
run
but
to
think
two
hours
and
16
minutes
and
then
like
late
late
night.
It's
an
indication.
I
think
those
committing
crimes.
Probably
you
know
they
don't
see
the
response,
so
I
would
think
it
would
embolden
and
worsen
the
level
of
crime.
G
So
what
I
think
about
when
you
say
that
I'm
wondering
if,
if
you'd
agree
with
me,
is
like
people
that
we've
heard
about
that,
are
you
know
committing
crime,
and
maybe
even
in
neighborhoods
like
chinatown,
are
emboldened
then
to
climb
up.
You
know
on
an
awning
and
start
sawing
down
a
light
or
a
lamp,
because
you
know
they
haven't
gone
gotten
caught
for
all
of
the
other
things
they've
done
so
now
they
feel
bolder
and
that
they
can
keep
stepping
that
up.
Is
that
something
that
you're
seeing.
A
C
Please
thank
you
mayor
mayor
and
council.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
some
brief
remarks
this
afternoon.
At
the
special
council
meeting
on
public
safety
and
violent
crime
city-wide,
my
name
is
johnny
morris.
I'm,
the
ceo
of
the
canadian
mental
health
association's
provincial
office
and
listening
in
this
afternoon,
is
ruby,
ing
who's.
The
ceo
for
the
canadian
mental
health
association's
vancouver
fraser
branch,
which
serves
the
residents
of
vancouver.
C
Today,
I'm
joining
you
from
ancestral
unseated
and
unsurrendent
speaking
territories.
I've
appreciated
listening
to
each
of
the
presentations
at
the
last
council
session
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
today
and
at
the
first
segment
of
this
meeting
two
weeks
ago.
It
was
reassuring
to
hear
such
a
strong
emphasis
on
the
general
manager
of
arts,
culture
and
community
services
at
the
city
on
the
critical
importance
of
taking
action
on
public
safety
and
violent
crimes
or
social
determinants
and
equity
driven
lens.
I
plan
to
speak
briefly
on
two
issues
this
afternoon.
C
We've
been
campaigning
to
reduce
stigma
among
people
living
with
mental
illness
since
our
founding
in
1952
in
bc,
and
on
diverting
people
living
with
mental
illness
from
contact
with
the
criminal
justice
system
for
over
20
years
on
this
first
issue,
this
conversation
in
response
to
public
safety
and
violence
will
continue.
Influential
leaders
in
the
media
can
play
an
important
role
in
challenging
stigma
and
stereotypes
about
mental
illness.
In
the
context
of
this
conversation,
they
can
also
inadvertently
reinforce
stigma,
stereotypes
and
the
criminalization
of
people
living
with
mental
illness
and
who
use
substances.
C
B
C
Really
important
to
remember
that
mental
illness
does
not
fully
capture
the
breadth,
depth
and
types
of
mental
health
problems
that
people
experience
in
any
messaging,
where
there's
a
threat
of
mental
illness
and
violence.
It's
so
critical
to
be
specific
and
to
speak
only
following
authoritative
confirmation
that
mental
illness
or
addiction
are
factors
messaging.
That
violence
in
quotes
appears
to
be
related
to
mental
illness
is
not
good
enough
and
frankly,
fuel
stigma
and
is
likely
to
exacerbate
the
very
problems
at
the
heart
of
this
discussion.
C
It
is
important
to
not
inadvertently
reinforce
a
link
that
might
not
be
there
and
we
must
put
violence
in
context.
Violence
by
people
living
with
mental
illness
is
rare,
and
we
must
avoid
implying
people
living
with
particular
illnesses.
Are
violent
research
shows
and
has
shown
for
years
that
most
people
with
mental
illness
are
not
violent,
and
most
people
who
are
violent
do
not
have
a
mental
illness.
C
C
On
the
second
issue
at
the
canadian
mental
health
association,
we
respond
to
the
experiences
of
people
in
crisis
on
a
daily
basis,
and
we
hear
their
calls
for
how
things
need
to
change
when
it
comes
to
crisis
care.
We
know
individuals,
families
and
communities
need
care,
compassion
and
support,
and
we
know
people
want
to
maintain
their
dignity
and
autonomy
in
a
crisis.
C
They
do
not
include
police
representatives
with
part
of
the
response,
they
are
not
dispatched
by
police
and
they
are
different
and
additive
to
the
joint
response
models
outlined
by
chief
palmer
at
the
last
meeting.
Those
in
the
north
shore,
where
we
have
a
live
pilot,
are
currently
helped
in
english
and
farsi,
and
that
team
has
taken
close
to
300
calls
where
they've
been
able
to
divert
from
the
emergency
department
and
from
police
during
the
majority
of
those
contacts.
C
Our
recent
work
and
the
province's
investment
aligns
well
with
the
comprehensive
and
responsive
recommendations,
including
in
the
special
committee
on
reforming
the
police
act
report
recently
released,
and
we're
also
grateful
and
looking
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
contribute
our
learnings
with
these
packed
peer,
assisted
teams
as
part
of
our
involvement
at
the
city
of
vancouver's
alternatives
to
9-1-1
working
group.
We're
very
grateful
to
be
at
that
table
alongside
others.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
mayor
and
council
to
bring
you
these
remarks
this
afternoon.
A
G
R
C
Yes,
I
mean
I
live
with
a
mental
illness
and
I'm
not
violent.
I
have
people
in
my
workplace
who
live
with
mental
illnesses
are
not
violent,
and
so
it's
it's
the
precision
of
of
how
we
use
language
in
and
around
describing
these
incidents
and
recognizing
that
mental
illness
is
a
capsule,
doesn't
describe
the
experience
of
everyone,
and
we
have
to
avoid
the
fallback
strategy
of
trying
to
understand
incomprehensible
things,
awful
things
with
profound
impacts
upon
people
as
a
result
of
a
mental
illness.
C
Sometimes
violence
happens
because
violence
happens
and
there's
no
root
at
the
cause
of
that
related
to
to
a
mental
illness
of
any
kind.
So
my
advice
would
be
first
to
be
used
precision.
You
know
I've
seen
I've
seen
social
media
posts
that
describe
unprovoked
stranger
attacks
appearing
to
be
related
to
mental
illness
and
appearing
is
not
good
enough.
If
there
are
confirmed,
authoritative
claims
that
mental
illness
untreated
mental
illness
was
absolutely
a
driver.
Yes,
we
need
to.
We
need
to
investigate
that
and
make
that
claim.
B
R
C
Yes,
the
funding
is
received
from
central
treasury
out
of
central
government,
so
it's
not
intruding
upon
any
municipal
budget,
and
so
it's
come.
It
was.
It
came
out
of
this
last
budget
budget
22
a
distinct
amount
of
pilot
expansion
and
development
of
new
teams
across
those
five
municipalities
really
to
build
the
business
case
this
year
and
we
receive
continued
interest
from
municipalities
along
the
way.
We're
very
grateful
for
municipal
leadership,
the
city
of
new
west
and
the
city
of
victoria
are
just
two
examples
that
come
to
mind.
B
Thanks
so
much,
I
had
similar
questions
to
councillor
dominato
so
appreciate
her
going
first
and
you
making
the
time
to
call
in
I'm
interested.
Also
to
hear
a
bit
more
about
the
pilots.
The
city
launched
a
better
together
peer
response
pilot
in
the
city.
Have
you
and
your
team
been
involved
in
that.
C
Thank
you
counselor
for
your
question.
No
we're
very
mindful
and
respectful
that
some
grassroots
peer-led
work
happening
in
in
the
city
of
vancouver
that
that
we
really
want
to
learn
from
and
engage
with,
often
very
peer-led,
and
we've
heard
of
some
really
important
examples
within
the
context
of
the
downtown
east
side.
B
C
An
excellent
question
on
the
north
shore:
it's
a
direct
access
point
currently
through
the
canadian
mental
health
association's
north
and
west
vancouver
branch,
and
so
it's
not
routed
to
the
e-com
system.
Though
there
are
conversations
that
we
recognize
that
people
at
times
do
not
feel
safe,
calling
9-1-1
for
for
any
of
the
responses
for
a
whole
host
of
reasons.
That
council
is
likely
aware
of.
There
is
a
broad
conversation
starting
to
develop
around
a
fourth
mental
health
option.
C
There's
a
few
folks
advocating
for
that
and,
and
that
could
become
part
of
the
dispatch
frame.
The
city
of
toronto
have
really,
I
think,
figured
this
out
with
triage
and
dispatch
in
a
good
way
and
would
invite
council
to
spend
some
time
with
city
of
toronto
staff.
They've
really
done
some
good
thinking
there
we're
trying
to
crack
that
nut
here
in
bc,
just
given
the
role
of
e-com
call
takers
and
the
differences
across
the
way.
B
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
one
quick
question
in
my
last
moment,
which
is
we
certainly
hear,
as
you
noted,
a
lot
of
stigmatizing
language
around
mental
health.
If
there
are
particular
resources
that
you
recommend
even
us,
as
counsel
read
in
terms
of
shifting
our
own
language
and
being
able
to
better
correct
public
language,
we
hear
to
not
worsen
the
problem.
I
I
would
welcome
that
being
circulated
to
us
or
sent
to
me
and
I
can
circulate.
M
C
B
C
Thanks
councillor
swanson,
we
we
are
very
would
be
very
interested.
We've
had,
I
think,
mixed
feedback
along
the
way
around,
just
given
the
diversity
and
complexity
and
the
the
magnitude
of
the
city,
how
it
might
work.
But
the
city
of
toronto
has
figured
this
down.
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
learn.
There
they've
recently
launched
four
teams,
including
an
indigenous
led
team
in
the
city
of
toronto,
there's
real
openness
from
the
provincial
office
of
cmha
to
engage
with
city
staff
and
council
on
what
might
be
possible.
C
I
think
proving
us
out
this
year
in
new
west.
The
north
shore
and
victoria
will
be
key
to
see
how
this
works
in
the
ecosystem
of
the
province,
but
councillors
once,
and
we
we're
very
interested
in
sharing
all
that.
We
can
learn
this
year
with
the
city
of
vancouver
and
and
also
being
very,
very
respectful
of
grassroots
efforts
that
are
currently
underway.
B
Okay
thanks.
The
other
question
I
have
is
about
the
stigmatizing
that
you
were
talking
about.
We
get
lots
of
emails
and
there
are
speakers
too,
from
folks
who
say
things
like.
We
can't
have
supportive
housing
that
houses,
people
with
mental
illness
and
people
who
use
drugs
because
it's
close
to
children.
B
C
C
But
I
think
if
we
always
remember
we're
talking
about
human
beings
and
what
we
have
seen
is
just
a
consistent
over
many
decades,
irrespective
of
a
political
party
under
investment
in
community-based
mental
health
care,
we
we
need
to
make
sure
we
don't
suffer
from
a
lack
of
imagination
and
creativity
and
care
when
it
comes
to
responding
to
these
complexities.
And-
and
it
is,
I
think,
remembering
I
live
with
a
mental
illness
and
counselor
dominated
spoken
about
her
family
experience.
C
We
are
talking
about
people
and
people
in
distress
and
and
institutionalization
doesn't
work,
we've
seen
that
fail.
So
how
do
we
realize
the
full
imagination
of
what
we
need
in
community
and
and
also
push
back
on
stigma
which
ultimately
thoughts
our
efforts
to
get
care
at
the
right
time
to
people
in
need
of
that
care?.
C
G
Thank
you.
So
much
really
appreciate
you
spending
the
time.
Speaking
with
us.
Last
last
week,
we
heard
from
dr
jj
sidhu
from
vancouver
coastal
health
when
he
presented,
and
he
said
that
that
vancouver
coastal
health
that
he
canvassed
his
nurses,
mental
health
workers
that
they
couldn't
do
their
work
without
the
vpd.
C
D
C
Incredibly
distressed
and
concerned
when,
when
anyone
is
injured
or
killed
during
an
interaction
and-
and
there
have
been
a
number
of
interactions
over
the
years
where,
where
police
not
just
vpd
but
across
the
province
in
the
country
and
and
we
need,
we
need
to
course
correct
on
that
and
make
sure
we
get
to
zero
in
all
of
those
instances.
And
that
really
does
require
a
reduction
in
the
number
of
contacts
where
police
are
called
upon
to
people
in
distress.
C
And
we
see
in
sweden,
you
know
they
dispatch
a
mental
health
ambulance
and
they've
had
to
rely
upon
police
minimally
in
cahoots
and
elsewhere,
and
so
we
do
need
to
swing
that
pendulum
back
and
we
recognize
that
vancouver
police
and
not
only
them,
but
other
police
departments
are
part
currently
of
a
continuum
of
care.
And
our
argument
is:
let's:
let's
build
up
the
toolbox
along
that
continuum
of
care
so
that
we
we
can
reduce,
reliance
upon
sending
a
police
response
to
health
emergencies.
C
The
number
of
cases
we
hear
where
police
have
had
to
respond
to
someone
experiencing
a
panic
attack
someone
who's
experiencing
thoughts
of
suicide
because
they're
depressed,
including
people
hearing
voices
all
of
those
pieces.
We
need
to
reorient
the
system
fundamentally
and
we're
trying
to
beef
up
the
part
of
the
system
with
civilian-led
peer-led
responses
where
we
rely
on
police
lesson,
can
free
police
up
to
attend
to
their
mandate
of
rights.
I.
G
C
Well,
I
would
say
the
availability
resources
in
vancouver
contrast
with
rural
and
remote
parts
of
bc.
I
think
it
is
on
a
par
with
what
we
have
in
victoria,
where
there's
quite
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
joint
response
to
the
car
87
model.
So
I
think
you
you
stack
comparably
with
victoria
and
then
also
please
go
alone
to
responses.
C
We
would
like
to
see
a
world
where,
where
police
respond
alone,
much
less
to
mental
health
emergencies,
joint
response,
where
it's
needed
and
required,
but
where
we
really
ramp
up
civilian
and
peer
lead
where
we
can
so
I'd,
say
you're
comparable
to
victoria.
But
my
last
comment,
mayor
and
council
last
two
weeks
ago,
mayor
eric
adams,
the
new
mayor
of
new
york,
invested
55
million
dollars
in
non-police-driven,
behavioral
health
teams,
city
staff
asked
for
about
61
million,
and
he
came
in
at
55
million.
A
A
A
P
P
Second,
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
inaction
and
the
excuses
and
the
denial
of
a
lot
of
members
of
council
regarding
crime
and
one
of
the
crime.
That's
committed
in
the
city
is
committed
against
vulnerable
people
and
I'm
just
curious
how
they,
how
they
square
the
circle
of
having
crime
committed
against
vulnerable
people
and
the
inaction
that
they've
had
in
this
regard.
P
P
P
P
P
I
also
want
to
ask
adam
palmer
a
question.
He
often
talks
about
how
the
judiciary
is,
allowing
you
know,
repeat
offenders
out
and-
and
he
blames
a
lot
of
this
on
the
judiciary,
but
where
is
he
when
it
comes
to
calling
out
the
the
john
horgan
and
mike
farnwell
and
david
eby?
Where
are
the
action
items
for
those
gentlemen?
P
P
P
A
lot
of
you
don't
have
a
criminal
record,
and
so
you
obviously
value
crime-free
life,
but
there's
one
person
on
council
who
does
have
a
criminal
record
and
I
don't
think
he's
particularly
qualified
to
speak
about
crime
anyways.
That's
it.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
bye-bye.
Thank.
A
J
Ahead:
okay,
wonderful
all
right
good
evening,
mayor
and
counselors,
I'm
marlene
from
vancouver;
first
slide:
the
palpable
letdowns
in
public
safety.
To
recap,
april
28th
chief
palmer
said
that
no
one
is
in
charge
of
public
safety
and
different
government
departments
are
working
in
silos.
The
bias
asked
who
is
going
to
stop
vandalism
and
random
acts
of
violence.
J
The
city
department
for
arts
and
culture
and
the
parks
board
talked
about
social
determinants
of
health
place,
making
activities
and
their
plans
for
the
homeless
next
slide
on
may
5th.
In
response
to
public
concerns.
Attorney
general
david
eby
gave
his
creative
solution
for
repeat
offender
violent
crime,
which
was
a
120
day
long
study
to
determine
compulsory,
supports
and
programs
that
could
respond
to
the
unique
needs
of
this
group
of
offenders.
In
the
words
of
vaughn
palmer,
the
letdown
was
palpable.
J
My
response
to
honourable
david
eby
is
one
instead
of
losing
another
valuable
tourism
season
due
to
violent
crime,
put
violent
criminals
in
jail
or
colony
farms
for
the
next
120
days
and
see
what
happens
two,
it's
time
to
admit
that
de-institutionalization
of
some
people
with
severe
mental
illness
was
a
failure.
The
creation
of
the
three
complex
care
model
sites
is
a
testament
to
this
failure.
Three,
the
dangerous
mental
health
effects
of
methamphetamine
can
no
longer
be
ignored.
Next
slide,
my
response
to
the
bias.
J
No
one
is
going
to
save
you.
Bureaucrats
don't
seem
interested
when
regular,
vancouver
residents
and
neighborhood
groups
stand
up
for
their
interests.
Bias.
You
have
to
organize
and
save
yourself.
The
public
will
follow,
demand.
Politicians
that
represent
you
de-elect
the
ones
that
don't
in
terms
of
public
safety,
the
bias
interests
align
with
the
majority
dias
promote
successful
small
business
and
functional,
orderly,
safe
neighborhoods
for
people
to
do
business
in
violence
and
vandalism
in
cities
is
a
canada-wide
problem
and
you
will
find
solidarity
with
other
bias
and
citizens
at
large
next
slide.
J
J
What
does
vancouver
plan
for
the
vancouver
plan
mentions
resilience
against
earthquakes
and
climate
change,
but
nothing
about
public
safety
that
we
are
all
concerned
about.
The
broadway
plan
has
nothing
about
public
safety,
so
some
cities
design
for
women
next
slide
some
for
children
next
slide
or
even
use
second
generation
septet
to
figure
out
compatible
use
of
land
like
saskatoon
vancouver,
is
into
inclusive
neighborhoods
and
put
a
safe
injection
site
and
hotel
turned
shelter,
turned
sro.
J
talk
about
incompatible
uses
of
land
and
very
soon,
a
terminal
subway
station
and
bus
loop
at
broadway
and
arbutus,
with
increased
access
of
drug
dealers
into
the
area
plus
a
164
foot,
high
low
barrier,
housing,
supportive
of
drug
use
and
no
criminal
background
checks.
Beside
a
women's
abstinence-based
recovery
house,
seniors,
housing,
elementary
school
and
taller
park,
this
isn't
stigmatization.
J
The
honorable
david
eby
attorney
general
minister
responsible
for
housing
and
local
mla
with
an
abundance
of
control
over
and
conflicts
of
interest
in
this
area,
approves
of
this
inclusive
neighborhood
plan
next
slide
at
present,
single-family
home
areas
have
the
lowest
rates
of
crime.
With
a
plan
for
densification
to
rental
high
rises,
there
will
be
a
loss
of
physical
connection
to
the
street
with
turnover
of
rental
population.
There
are
fewer
caring
personally
connected
eyes
on
the
street
with
all
the
talk
of
inclusiveness,
but
a
lack
of
value
for
what
our
neighbors
think.
J
B
J
B
A
A
H
Yeah,
okay
yeah.
So
as
mentioned
my
name's
douglas
ferguson
and
I
work
in
chinatown.
I've
been
working
in
chinatown
for
the
past
few
years,
three
or
four
years,
I'd
like
to
open
up
with
a
quote
from
from
writer
c.s
lewis,
who
you
probably
know,
written
the
classic
children's
book
lion
witch
in
the
wardrobe.
H
It
goes
like
this.
We
all
want
progress,
but
if
you're
on
the
wrong
road
progress
means
doing
an
about
turn
and
walking
back
to
the
right
road.
In
that
case,
the
man
who
turns
back
soonest
is
the
most
progressive,
and
the
reason
why
I
bring
this
up
is
because
I've
noticed,
like
you
know,
since
working
in
chinatown,
how
this
idea
and
this
sort
of
fiction
that
we
don't
need
more
police
officers,
has
created
such
a
problem
with
the
chinatown
community.
Q
H
I
go
to
work
there
like
every
morning
and
you
know
it's
it's
it's
just
a
given
that
I
am
going
to
have
to
deal
with.
You
know
either
you
know
human
feces
or
you
know,
people
barking
at
passersby.
A
lot
of
them
seniors
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
chinese
canadian
seniors.
May
I
add,
and-
and
I
also
work
right
next
to
a
senior's
home
and
it's
heartbreaking
to
see
like
you
know,
I
would
say
like
say
an
85
year
old.
You
know
chinese
woman
with
her
walker
and
she
has
to
walk
past.
H
Like
you
know,
people
shooting
up
and
smoking
crack
or
or
leaving
their
you
know
their
shopping
carts
whatever
on
their
walkways,
so
they
can't
even
go
down.
They
can't
even
use
their
wheelchair
accessible.
You
know
equipment,
that's
at
the
building
and
this
constant
erosion
I
mean
my
goodness
I'll.
Tell
you,
like.
I
remember
last
year.
P
H
Like
there
was
like
members
of
the
these
seniors,
I
don't
know
what
group
they
were.
It
was
like
a
group
of
chinese
canadian
seniors
and
they
were
all
composing
and
practicing
for
this
chinese
opera
and
they
were
all
singing
together
and
they
were
practicing
outs
in
this
courtyard
and
man.
I'm
telling
you
it
broke
my
heart,
because,
while
this
beautiful
they
were
singing
this
beautiful
music
there's
people
like
smoking,
crack
and
shooting
up
around
them
and
there's
human
feces
and
there's
needles
and
there's
used
like
there's
garbage
everywhere
and
I'm
just
like.
H
H
H
This
is
crazy.
I
mean
why
is
it
that
the
the
those
that
work
in
chinatown
or
the
residents
in
chinatown
are
have
no
voice
here?
It's
we
feel,
like
our
voices
are
not
being
heard
and
every
day
that
I
go
to
to
work
is
a
trauma.
It's
traumatizing
because
I'm
going
to
be.
If
I'm
like.
Oh
excuse
me,
sir,
could
you
maybe
not
you
know
you
know
shoot
up
at
you
know
where
I
work
or
whatever
I
know
that
this
person
is
going
to
get
angry
at
me.
H
And
like
even
like
going
to
mcdonald's
like
last
month,
they
went
to
mcdonald's,
and
this
woman
ripped
out
a
giant
knife
that
could
honestly
it
would
have
sliced
a
bit.
It
would
have
killed
a
bear
and
she
started
attacking
somebody
in
the
mcdonald's
at
the
international
mall,
and
so
I
immediately
just
vacated.
It
was
terrifying.
H
S
Okay,
thank
you,
mayor
council,
council
members,
city
staff
and
fellow
speakers.
This
is
jordan,
ing,
I'm
the
president
of
the
vancouver
chinatown
bia,
and
I
would
like
to
thank
city
council
for
convening
this
meeting
as
a
on
public
safety,
because,
as
you've
heard
from
the
last
speaker-
and
it's
really
heartbreaking
to
listen
to
him-
that
safety
is
a
major
issue
threatening
chinatown.
S
Uniquely,
it's
a
living
room
for
our
elders,
our
seniors
that
have,
and
it
provides
them
a
place
of
community
familiarity
and
a
sense
of
comfort,
but
over
the
last
two
years
with
covert
the
major
concerns
continuously
come
back
to
us
and
those
are
safety
and
security,
anti-asian
racism,
social
disorder,
garbage
and
graffiti,
and
you
know,
we've
talked
to
many
on
council.
We've
talked
to
city
staff
and
the
community
leaders
have
gotten
together
and
what
are
they
telling
me?
The
chinatown
is
under
siege.
S
Health
and
safety
are
the
most
important
issues
facing
chinatown
and
safety
and
security.
Above
all,
consideration
is
what's
an
issue
for
our
community:
the
results
of
social
disorder,
mental
health
issues
and
aggressive
received
a
real
on
on
regular
folks,
that's
happening.
You
know,
that's
happening
on
us
every
day
and
and
how?
How
do
we
measure
ourselves
and
where
we
become
a
a
neighborhood
where
we
can
welcome
people?
S
My
concern
is
what's
happening
on
the
street
is
driving
away
good
businesses
that
create
the
vibrancy
of
the
neighborhood.
It's
keeping
the
locals
visitors
residents
and
tourists
away
because
of
fear
for
their
safety,
and,
as
this
accelerates,
the
retail
stores,
which
are
the
essence
of
our
neighbors
neighborhood,
will
continue
to
close.
S
S
S
I
don't
want
to
repeat
the
statistics
provided
by
chief
farmer
the
other
day,
because
we
at
the
at
the
ground
level,
feel
like
we
are
in
ground
zero
with
much
that
has
been
tolerated
and
not
reported
recognizing.
What
that,
what
we
experience
is
is
no
longer
just
a
chinatown
problem.
What
is
extremely
troubling,
though,
in
our
neighborhood,
is
the
anti-asian
racist
overtone
that
this
that
that
shadows
this
community,
but
I'm
not
here,
just
to
complain.
S
The
vpd
can't
do
it
alone,
but
we
would
like
to
thank
the
vpd
for
its
support
for
the
community
over
the
last
several
years
in
particular,
but
there's
a
need.
A
parallel
need
for
social
support
and
mental
health
services,
in
particular,
at
the
end
of
each
month
when
it
becomes
acutely
noticeable
in
the
neighborhood.
S
S
One
program
that
is
particularly
important
to
chinatown,
funded
through
the
chinatown
transformation
team,
is
the
community
stewardship
program.
Funding
is
scheduled
to
end
at
the
stop
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
we
encourage
you
to
continue
its
supported
continuation
through
this
peer-based
neighborhood
engagement.
Their
work
in
the
community
is
an
important
alternative
approach
and
less
threatening
than
interactions
with
security
and
bpd.
S
S
I
Hi,
jordan,
let
me
start
with
you
you've
named,
and
I
really
appreciate
a
number
of
different
kind
of
solutions
in
addition
to
the
mental
health
services.
So,
let's
start
with
lighting,
because
chinatown
has
very
unique
lighting
with
the
dragon
lights.
What
kind
of
lighting
are
you
envisioning
in
your
request
to
have
more
in
the
neighborhood?
Well,.
B
S
Are
nice
and
and
beautiful
for
the
neighborhood?
It
was
a
program
done
by
the
vancouver
chinatown
merchants
association
which
are
represent
the
legacy
businesses,
but
it
doesn't
light
the
the
streets
and
the
corners
and,
and
so
it
looks,
dark
and
and
it
has
allowed
places
for
you
know,
people
who
do
the
vandalism
and
mischief
that
we've
seen
in
the
neighborhood.
I
S
I
I
you
know,
I
do.
I
know,
there's
issues
on
on
in
the
downtown
eastside
in
general
and
and
we're
supportive
of
the
initiatives
on
that
side.
But
you
know
there's
a
level
of
accountability
and
and
issues
that
need
to
be
dealt
with
in
chinatown,
and
you
know
we
seem
to
be
the
small
just
because
of
our
kind
of
locale
and
the
size
of
our
community.
We
seem
to
be
passed
over
when,
when
the
bigger,
broader
issues
come
into
play,
so.
I
S
Sure
it's
you
know
it's
a
social
enterprise
program
that
is
run
by
embers,
which
employs
people
from
the
downtown
eastside,
and
you
know
and
have
have
them
in
the
community
to
interact
with
people
that
might
otherwise
feel
threatened
by
police
or
security.
And
and
it's
less,
I
guess
how
how
they
would
consider.
It
is
a
less
aggressive
approach
to
to
working
in
the
community
and
because
there
were.
There
were
concerns
about
that.
S
It's
helping
people
in
the
community,
direct
them
to
services,
which
may
be
helpful
for
them.
You
know
you
know
at
times,
if
they're
in
front
of
storefronts
and
people
want
to
open
their
businesses
rather
than
calling
the
police,
you
know,
they're,
there's
an
opportunity
for
them
as
they're
working
to
to
help
the
interaction
between
the
store
owner
and
and
the
person.
That's
you
know,
speaking
in
front
of
their
office
in
front
of
their
store
when
they're
trying
to
go
to
work.
G
Thanks
very
much
jordan
thanks
for
for
waiting
to
speak
to
council
also,
you
would
mention
many
solutions.
I
really
appreciate
that
I've
been
trying
to
ask
speakers
about
that
tonight
and-
and
you
already
answered
one
of
the
questions
I
had
about
lighting,
but
when
it
comes
to
investment
in
chinatown
and
looking
at
sort
of
what
we
could
do
together,
I
mean
I
understand
that
that
from
a
previous
motion
that
works
underway
and
staff
will
be
reporting
back.
But
what
do
you
see
the
critical
need
being
right
now
for
public
safety?
G
S
You
know
I
didn't
get
to
finish.
Quite
all
I
I
wanted
to
say,
but
I
I
did
want
to
say
that
you
know
in
the
meantime,
as
we're
working
solutions
is
that
you
know
having
more
foot
patrol
in
our
neighborhood
and
increased
police
presence
in
our
neighborhood
is
helpful.
You
know
there
is
whether
it's
perceived
or
real
that
safety
is
an
issue,
and
you
know
you,
you
can't
just
discredit
it,
because
violence
hasn't
physically
happened.
S
G
If,
if
we
have
time,
can
I
ask
you
a
bit
about,
I
mean
here's
the
thing
we
started
unesco
pre-covet,
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
significant
budget
there
right
now
from
unesco.
Do
you
see
unesco
moving
forward?
If
we
don't
deal
with
the
public
safety
aspects
and
the
anti-asian
hate
and
racism
in
chinatown,
or
do
you
think
we
need
to
deal
with
that
and
unesco
will
come,
but
if
we
don't
deal
with
that,
it
doesn't
matter
what
we
do
for
industry.
S
Sorry,
unesco
could
be
a
dream
in
the
future,
but
to
you
know
the
it's.
The
issues
that
we
do
deal
with
today
is
it's
ground
level
issues.
If
we
don't
deal
with
what
we
have
and
the
problems
that
are
in
the
community
now
unesco,
we
could
be
working
on
something
that
will
never
happen.
I
think
we
need
to
deal
with
what's
what's
in
front
of
us
right
now,.
A
L
I
am
a
neutral
of
this.
I'm
a
mother
of
four
residents
of
vancouver
new
to
community
organizing
and
I
founded
parents
for
thoughtful
city
planning,
co-founded
it
with
a
goal
of
helping
to
place
children
back
in
the
center
of
decision
making
in
the
city,
so
city
planners
can
include
a
child's
perspective
across
all
work.
You
know
a
city
that
is
safe
and
friendly
for
children.
L
L
Here
are
a
few
examples
of
what
I
would
suggest
is
needed:
first,
safe,
walking
and
safe
cycling
infrastructure,
especially
around
schools.
Today,
multiple
multiple
schools
have
been
impacted
by
major
transit
projects.
Sidewalks
removed
detour,
signage
for
bike
to
school
route
are
hung
way
above
children's
sight
line
and
the
only
safe
city
element
between
seven-year-olds
and
buses
going
50
kilometers
an
hour
is
a
faded
spray-painted
line.
L
L
Recently,
fois
showed
that
city
planners
clearly
have
not
incorporated
feedback
from
large
populations
of
children
and
public
housing
proposals.
Consultation
has
resulted
in
success
for
other
jurisdictions.
Planners
need
not
think
that
parents
are
out
to
stop
proposals
victoria,
for
example,
work
to
achieve
balance
and
success
for
a
school
community.
They
recognized
the
incongruence
of
existing
school
age
population
and
introduced
populations
and
responded
by
establishing
housing
for
only
those
with
no
known
history
of
violence
and
no
current
substance
abuse
issues.
L
What
did
that
equal
success
in
north
vancouver
throughout
community
consultation
for
another
school
neighborhood?
They
determined
that
housing
for
the
most
vulnerable
population
of
women
and
women
like
families
would
be
the
most
appropriate,
so
the
existing
and
introduced
family
populations
could
thrive
together
and
the
result
was
an
overwhelming
support
from
the
community
there.
We
need
to
let
current
data
pertaining
to
children's
families
help
drive
our
decisions.
L
The
cfc
city,
vancouver
2020
homeless,
count
showed
that
more
than
21
percent
have
got
identified
as
women
and
women
like
families.
Stats
can
state
that
82
percent
of
these
are
turned
away
from
shelters
for
being
full
in
2019
25
of
women
surveyed
in
the
downtown
eastside,
so
they
felt
unsafe
in
their
place
of
residence
and
87
reported
feeling
unsafe
in
the
downtown
east
side,
walking
around
in
2020
city
planners,
told
a
terra
women's
resource
society
who
had
been
advocating
for
four
years
for
a
hundred
units
of
safer
supportive
housing
for
women
and
women-led
families.
L
That
would
be
too
expensive
at
the
site
that
they
proposed
downtown
and
that
they
would
prefer
to
develop
empty
land
for
their
purposes.
From
a
cost
perspective.
Today
you
have
a
case
of
where
empty
city
lands
exist.
The
data
drive
needed
for
support
of
housing,
women
and
women
like
families
in
a
safer,
family-oriented,
walkable
neighborhood.
You
have
that
and
a
community
that
has
loudly
asked
for
a
composition
of
families
to
welcome.
L
G
Charlene,
I'm
hoping
you
can
maybe
share
a
little
bit
about
your
own
perspective.
Do
you
feel
safe
in
your
neighborhood
right
now?
What
are
you
hearing
from?
You
know
your
fellow
residents.
I
appreciate
the
high
level,
you
know,
complexities
and
some
of
the
solutions
you
brought
to
the
table,
but
also
just
wondering
how
you're
feeling,
what
sort
of
brought
you
to
participate
in
this
meeting.
L
L
G
G
Is
it
a
concern
that
sort
of
this
generation
of
families
is
missing
out
and
that
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
make
it
livable,
while
we
continue
to,
you
know,
be
progressive
and
move
forward,
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
I'm
really
understanding
the
heart
of
what
you're,
you're
asking
for
is
is
a
livable
community.
Is
that
that's
my
understanding.
L
Sure
it's
a
livable
community.
I
mean
we're
supposed
to
be
a
world-class
city,
but
there's
other
cities
around
the
world
that
are
championing
children's
rights
and
they're
actually
using
it
in
a
very
clever
way,
not
in
a
way
where
they
feel
like
they're
capitulating
they're,
using
in
a
clever
way
to
build
to
like
from
before
they
make
decisions
deciding
how
it
will
impact
those
children
and
then
building
from
there.
I'm
not
talking
just
playgrounds,
I'm
talking
about
egress
ingress.
L
A
H
P
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
saying
hi
mayor
council.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
understand
that
these
issues.
These
are
monumental
issues
to
deal
with,
especially
in
an
era
of
what
appears
to
be
a
new
social
order.
There
are
many
different
people
here
with
many
different
experiences
and
I
can
only
speak
about
mine
and
I
sympathize
with
the
magnitude
of
the
task
at
hand.
I
live
in
gastown.
P
I
relate
very,
very
much
with
many
speakers,
but
currently
two
of
the
speakers
caught
my
attention.
In
particular
the
woman
who
talked
about
walking
down
the
street
with
her
head
down
yuri
on
the
bus
and
the
other
gentleman
who
played
the
audio
tape
of
the
distressed
man
screaming
I
manage
the
building
I
live
in
on
carroll
street.
We
have
a
similar
person
who
terrorizes
our
building
our
tenants,
our
business
tenant
and
our
neighbors.
P
This
woman
continually
threatens
everyone
in
the
building
with
sharp
objects.
She
blocks
the
apartment,
entrance
door,
smokes
crack,
she
screams
she
urinates.
She
threatens
she's
nude.
At
times,
people
can't
enter
into
the
building.
Many
staff
have
quit
and
tenants
have
moved
out.
She
has
serious
mental
health
and
addiction
issues.
She
has
been
arrested
and
released
numerous
times
on
conditions
which
she
continually
violates,
and
the
court
has
now
abandoned
those
conditions
in
response
to
counselor
dominato's
question
about
housing
supports
in
relation
to
these
issues.
P
This
woman
is
not
homeless
and
no
matter
what
support
you
provide
in
the
housing
complex,
she
is
still
free
to
roam
the
streets,
do
drugs
and
allow
her
mental
health
and
trauma
issues
to
play
out
unabated
and
affect
everyone
around
her
add
drugs
into
that
mix,
and
it's
a
cocktail
for
disaster
that
is
evident
on
many
vancouver
streets
which
may
end
up
in
violence
to
others
or
the
police
ending
up
harming
her.
There
needs
to
be
mental
health
and
addiction
support
beyond
the
walls
of
the
housing
complex.
P
We
want
help
for
her.
I'm
not
sure
how
someone
in
this
predic
predicament
is
not
institutionalized.
She
does
not
seem
capable
of
making
decisions
about
getting
or
staying
in
care.
Drawing
her
in
jail
is
not
the
answer.
This
is
happening
all
over
the
city.
People
with
trauma
mental
health
and
addiction
issues
are
allowed
to
play
out
their
stories
in
public
and
are
excused
from
their
actions
because
they
have
these
issues.
P
My
second
experience
is
in
regards
to
fire
safety,
an
old
building
just
burned
down,
and
gas
down
and
people
died.
I
have
been
trying
to
get
sprinklers
in
my
building
for
many
years
and
have
been
stopped
by
the
building
department
because
of
existing
non-conforming
building
matters.
Sprinklers
save
lives
period
and
having
sprinklers
in
the
building
with
the
current
existing
non-conforming
building
structures
is
better
than
the
status
quo,
which
we
will
keep
rather
than
spending
millions
of
dollars
trying
to
bring
the
building
up
to
the
modern
code
in
order
to
have
sprinklers
approved.
B
P
Yeah,
it's
the
morningstar
building
the
upstairs
and
sprinklered,
and
we've
been.
We
had
some
building
permits
and
just
to
do
some
minor
renovations
and
then
basically
the
sprinklers
were
just
said.
No,
we
can't
put
sprinklers
in
until
we
fix
the
existing
non-conforming
issues
which
have
been
present
for
as
long
as
I
know
of,
and
you
know,
requiring
extensive
renovations
in
the
building,
which
you
know
is
we'd
rather
just
get
the
just
get
the
sprinklers
in
so
the
life
safety
issues.
P
I
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thanks
for
speaking
to
council,
I
think
I
know
exactly
the
spot
that
you
mean
and
the
person
you
were
referring
to
as
an
example,
because
I
had
an
experience,
so
I
wasn't
able
to
enter
businesses
or
a
meeting
and,
and
it
was
it
was
a
sort
of
a
dicey
situation,
sort
of
just
basically
leaving
the
area
and
not.
There
was
no
way
to
kind
of
interact
with
the
individual.
I
Would
you
like
to
see
one
of
those
recommendations
be
that
we
are
really
pushing
for
housing
with
treatment
services
and
getting
people
into
that
where
they
can
actually
live
with
the
supports
that
they
need,
because
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
your
mouth,
but
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
on
terms
of
outcomes
and
trying
to
get
to
some
sort
of
solution.
I
feel
like
we're
describing
we're
failing
people
we're
feeling
people
like
that
woman,
we're
failing
the
neighbors,
we're
failing
the
businesses,
it's
impacting
everybody.
P
I
P
Yeah-
and
I
I
think
I
do-
I
would
love
to
see
a
recommendation
like
that,
and
I
think
that
it
has
to
be
in
conjunction
with
the
police
force
and
in
conjunction
with
the
provincial
court
system,
so
that
there
is,
you
know,
sort
of
all
you
know
and
some
type
of
social
services
component.
So
there's
multiple,
it's
a
multi-disciplinary
program
that
has
you
know
everybody
watching
someone
and
that
person
sort
of
is
supposed
to
be
somewhere.
I
P
Of
course
we
do,
I
mean,
and-
and
you
know
some
of
these
store-
I
don't
know
about
these
incidents
of
of
harm
or
shootings
by
the
police,
but
I
mean
I
see
the
police
in
some
situations
dealing
with
some
people
like
I
don't
know
what
I
would
do.
If
I
was
in
their
shoes,
you
know
they're
just
they're
they're,
you
know
they.
P
P
G
Thanks
so
much
I
I
was
wasn't
going
to
ask
you
questions,
but
I
have
some
further
questions
after
your
answers
to
cancer
caribbean
and
we,
since
we
reconvened
this
meeting
from
the
original
date
of
this
meeting
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
I'm
wondering
what
do
you
think
about
the
you
know
the
the
study
that's
been
commissioned
by
the
province
that
will
take
120
days.
I
call
it
the
study
of
studies
because
we
have
this
data.
G
We
have
the
information,
it's
very
clear,
that
there
needs
to
be
more
supports
for
people
with
mental
health
and
addictions.
We
can't
just
give
them
a
room
and
a
key
and
a
front
desk
person
and
have
a
revolving
door
where
they
go
in
for
assaulting.
Someone
come
out
the
next
day,
assault
someone
else
so
are.
Are
you
confident
that,
in
120
days
the
the
attorney
general
is
going
to
come
back
with
with
solutions?
Or
do
you
think
that
it's
time
that
we
as
a
council
look
at
instead
of
looking
to
different
levels
of
government?
G
P
P
I
just
do
know
in
other
places.
You
know
there
is
a
sort
of
you
know.
People
need
to
get
treatment
or
be
responsible
if
they
don't
get
treatment
for
themselves.
Like
I
said,
the
portuguese
model
was,
which
was
the
the
the
premier
model
of
of
of
decriminalizing
drugs,
but
that
that
wasn't
a
model
that
didn't
that
didn't
bear
some
responsibility
on
the
user
of
the
drug
and
and
put
some
responsibility
on
them
to
go
into
treatment
and
stay
in
treatment,
and
there
was
some
legal
responsibility
behind
that.
G
I've
been
to
portugal,
I've
studied
the
portugal
model.
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
I
I
suppose
when
it
comes
down
to
it,
though
right
now,
what
we're
doing
is.
Is
I
mean
what
we
can
do?
What
I
see
is
an
option
that
other
people
have
pointed
out
to
us.
You
know,
as
councilor
kirby
is
talked
about
some
options.
P
A
F
F
First
doesn't
work,
there's
actually
a
lot
of
evidence
to
show
that
helping
housing
first
has
empirical
support,
and
I
want
to
first
start
off
by
just
saying
that
all
crimes
all
crimes
are
bad,
but
they
have
victims,
especially
violent
crimes,
and
I'm
not
saying
that
there
are
places
that
there
are
not
places
in
in
vancouver
that
are
problematic
and
need
to
be
addressed.
Chinatown
and
downtown
east
side
have
come
up,
and
I'm
also
not
denying
the
experiences
of
the
individuals
and
who've
called
in
today,
and
also.
F
Other
individuals
who
have
had
issues
in
the
city
I
want
to
speak
to
the
claims
made
by
the
vancouver
police
force,
specifically
adam
palmer,
regarding
the
increases
in
particularly
in
violent
crime.
All
of
the
data
that
I'm
going
to
be
speaking
to
are
actually
from
their
website
that
they
claim
to
be
accurate
and
the
data
that
they
send
to
statistics,
canada.
F
Some
of
the
data
can't
be
published
because
of
confidentiality
confidentiality
issues,
but
these
are
actually
a
very
small
percentage
of
data,
and
the
the
police
force
in
vancouver
does
not
provide
data
on
serious
assault
or
assault
level.
Two
and
three
so
at
the
monthly
level.
Over
the
past
20
to
25
years,
total
crime
in
vancouver
has
dropped
55.
F
This
is
a
part
of
a
global
phenomenon.
This
is
not
something
that
is,
that
is
specific
to
vancouver.
It's
been
going
all
over
all
around
the
world
developed
nation,
developing
nations,
violent
crime
is
down
30
and
serious
crimes.
I,
like
serious
assaults,
have
remained
stable
over
the
past
20
odd
years.
There
has
been
a
slight
increase
recently,
but
that
is
only
if
you
consider
2017
to
2019,
as
the
dpd
has
done
as
a
baseline.
These
calls
consist
of
only
one
percent
of
the
calls
for
services
go
to
the
police.
F
Calls
for
service
have
remained
stable
over
the
past
30
years,
while
the
number
of
police
officers
have
gone
up
20,
and
so
what
I
would
just
like
to
say
say
here
is
that
we
do
not
need
to
base
decisions
on
resources
for
police
on
on
a
lack
of
empirical
data.
We
need
evidence
to
end
up
making
these
decisions.
F
Please
please
end
up
comprising,
as
I'm
sure
city,
council
and
mayor,
you
know,
over
20
percent
of
your
budget
and
your
your
money
is
far
better
spent
on
things
like
housing,
addiction,
services,
mental
health
services,
decriminalizing
drugs,
decriminalizing,
sex
work,
and
these
are
obviously
things
that
are
a
lot
of
number
of
which
are
outside
of
your
purview
outside
of
your
jurisdiction.
But
these
are
things
that
need
to
be
working
on.
We
do
not
need
to
end
up
having
a
a
police
force
in
this
city
that
ends
up
in.
F
In
my
my
opinion,
fear-mongering,
the
people
of
vancouver
making
them
think
their
city
is
unsafe.
They
can.
They
can
talk
about
these
data
that
aren't
you
know
that
aren't
available
to
the
public
all
they
want.
But
then,
let's
talk
about
transparency.
They
accuse
you
of
a
lack
of
transparency
for
trying
to
reduce
their
budget
by
a
whole
two
percent
when
you
had
to
do
temporary
layoffs
of
over
20
percent
of
city
staff,
when
crime
during
the
pandemic
has
plummeted,
property
crime-
I
mean
like
I've
published
on
this.
F
And
again
we
don't.
I
am
not
an
abolitionist
when
it
comes
to
police.
I
believe
we
need
the
police,
we
just
don't
need
more,
and
we
arguably
need
less.
We've
not
they've
not
had
an
increase
in
work
over
the
past
and
in
past
30
years,
based
on
data.
I've
seen
it
go
back
to
1991
and
crime
has
gone
down
and
serious
crimes
that
have
may
have
gone
up
have
are
a
very
small
percent
percentage
of
the
work
that
they
end
up.
Doing.
G
Wouldn't
you
see
that
number
going
up
because
we
didn't
have
people
coming
not
as
many
people
coming
to
work
in
vancouver
people
aren't
eating
at
restaurants
or
hanging
out
on
the
granville
strip
in
vancouver.
So
I'm
just
wondering
what
do
you
see
with
the
data
numbers
there?
Do
you
think
there
needs
to
be
some
investigation
into
that
data,
because
I
mean
it's:
comparing
apples
to
oranges,
to
compare
data
when
there's
less
people
in
the
city,
but
you
see
violence
and
serious
crimes
and
assaults
going
up,
but
there's
less
people
here.
F
F
2
assault
have
remained
relatively
constant,
they
bounce
around
and
they
are
in
an
uptick
now
compared
to
2017
to
2019
but
they're,
all
all
within
all,
within
the
ranges
of
the
data
that
have
been
going
on
since
1998
and
if
they
want
to
end
up
making
claims
that
there
are
these
these
recent
spikes,
we
need
to
put
them
in
in
level
two
assaults.
We
need
to
put
these
things
into
context.
They
need
to
provide,
they
need
to
provide
their
data,
and
especially
one
week,
so
we
can
see
where
these
things
are
occurring.
F
G
I
would
I
just
have
one
more
question
for
you.
I
was.
I
was
wondering
if
you
happen
to
have
the
information
as
to
I
mean
pre-pandemic
versus
in
pandemic
and
as
we
recover
sort
of
what
we're
looking
at
at
numbers
of
people
out
in
public
spaces
in
public
places
where
this
violence
is
occurring,
do
you
have
the
numbers?
Are
you
willing
to
share
those.
F
G
A
I
F
It
is
I'll
see
if
I
can
also
download
some
uploaded
data
and
regarding
the
29
increase
in
in
serious
assaults
that
is
these
are
these
are
going
from
three
a
day
to
four
a
day.
Again,
that's
another
365
300
500
crimes.
This
is
not
good,
but
they
are.
This
is
again,
I
think,
stands
into
fearmongering
when
we're.
You
know
you
talk
about
these
increases,
it's
like.
Well,
it's
an
increase
of
one.
I
A
M
M
I
personally
live
in
a
town
home
and
on
a
street
level,
and
I
have
seen-
and
I
have
to
reiterate
that
I
have
lived
in
yale
town
since
1996.-
I've
been
in
yaletown
for
a
very
long
time,
current
location,
I've
been
for
13
years
and,
as
I
say,
I
have
a
townhouse
and
I
would
say,
in
the
last
two
years
I've
seen
and
heard
a
lot
of
people
and
not
just
the
happy
drunk
cleveland
parties
anymore.
Unfortunately,
it's
a
lot
of
mentally
ill
people
that
are
screaming.
I
see
them
on
my
patio.
M
I've
had
to
get
the
heaviest
chain.
I
could
find
my
barbecue.
Everything
is
taped
together,
because
I've
had
things
stolen
multiple
times,
our
own
building,
that
is
the
crimes,
have
increased
quite
a
bit.
The
car
break-ins,
the
storage
lockers,
the
bike
depth
just
the
overall
damage.
I
also
work
as
a
registered
nurse
at
st
paul's
hospital
and,
up
until
recently
I
used
to
walk
to
work
in
the
morning.
If
I
did
an
early
shift,
I
will
no
longer
do
that.
I
find
it
dangerous.
M
M
M
You
know
that
the
person
as
well-
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure,
there's
no
drug
paraphernalia
left
around
because
that's
the
danger,
my
children
were
the
first
ones
to
go
to
eltyboy
school
when
it
opened
in
yelltown,
and
I
remember
going
there
frequently
and
I'm
just
appalled
at
what
I
see
and
what
the
parents
now
have
to
do
every
morning
to
clean
up
to
make
sure
it's
safe.
For
their
children,
I
used
to
go
to
a
dog
groomer
in
yale
town.
I
no
longer
do
that.
M
I
find
it
unsafe
for
me
to
park
my
car
and
walk
the
couple
boards
that
I
need
to
get
there.
So
I
had
to
leave
that
vendor
to
use
my
dog
and
now
for
statistics,
I'm
hearing
that
the
numbers
are
going
down.
However,
I
know
personally,
they
don't
all
get
reported,
we're
not
going
to
keep
phoning
9-1-1
for
this.
Should
we
maybe
is
there
a
way
to
track
it
better?
M
I
would
like
to
see
that
because
I
know
that,
because
I
do
have
a
couple
police
officers
that
live
in
my
building
and
they're
very
frustrated
and-
and
they
certainly
don't
seem
to
think
the
crime's
gone
down
and
they
the
ones
that
I
know,
do
not
support
decreasing
the
police
at
all,
and
I
hope
that
there's
something
we
can
do
about
this.
I
know
that
drug
use
and
mental
health
is
a
serious
problem.
M
It's
not
just
a
problem
for
the
city
of
vancouver,
but
I
hope
there's
something
that
we
can
do
because
for
the
first
time
living
in
downtown
vancouver,
I've
actually
thought
about
leaving
and
it's
just
not
a
good
feeling.
So
that's
all
I
really
have
to
say.
If
there's
any
questions
feel
free
to
ask.
A
L
B
L
L
My
family
doctor
had
sent
me
to
emergency
to
consult
with
a
specialist,
and
while
I
was
waiting
there,
I
was
verbally
abused
and
spat
on
by
a
woman
who
appeared
to
be
under
the
influence
of
something
and
also
appeared
as
though
she
lived
on
the
street
and
as
a
private
individual.
I
felt
scared
and
uneasy,
and
as
a
social
worker,
I
felt
distraught
that
the
woman
would
likely
be
turned
out
onto
the
street
without
receiving
any
long-lasting,
meaningful
help.
L
I
know
hospitals,
especially
downtown,
are
often
a
revolving
door
for
people
who
are
homeless.
I
also
know
that
a
portion
of
the
crime
experience
in
vancouver
the
one
of
the
other.
The
other
topic
here
tonight
comes
from
people
who
are
homeless
a
portion
of
it
because
they
have
no
economic
support
and
many
lack
hope.
L
I
really
believe
our
city
doesn't
need
to
be
this
way
and
if
we
provided
housing
and
support
differently
and
effectively
a
topic,
that's
come
up
a
lot
tonight
for
the
people
causing
the
crime,
many
of
who
commit
it
because
their
lives.
They
live
with
mental
illness
and
battle
addiction
that
these
problems
could
be
substantially
reduced.
L
We
are
housing,
the
homeless
and
the
heart
to
housing
correctly.
In
vancouver.
We
congregate
these
people
in
sros
or
other
supportive
housing
buildings,
and
the
model
has
proven
not
to
work.
A
congregate
model
works
for
families
and
low-income
individuals
and
seniors,
but
it
doesn't
work
for
people
leaving
homelessness
with
mental
illness
and
addiction,
and
this
is
because
housing
is
directly
related
to
our
psychological
and
physical
health
in
family
housing.
Development
children
can
play
in
communal
courtyards.
Parents
can
cook
together
and
support.
L
L
People
with
mental
illness
and
addiction
have
limited
opportunities
to
recover
when
they're
forced
to
live
with
others
who
struggle
with
the
same
issues
and
when
they
are
asked.
The
vast
majority
have
a
strong
preference
for
independent
housing.
They
want
to
get
their
lives
back
on
track
and
and
and
they
need,
they
need
independent
housing
to
do
that.
L
The
center
for
applied
research
in
mental
health
and
addiction
has
studied
homelessness,
addiction
and
mental
illness
and
did
a
randomized
control
study
with
the
homeless
population,
comparing
congregate,
housing
and
independent
recovery-oriented
housing,
and
the
results
showed
that
recovery-oriented
housing
causes
significant
reductions
in
crime.
71
is
quoted
in
their
study,
50
reduction
in
medical
emergencies
and
fundamentally
improved
clients,
quality
of
life.
L
So
the
some
of
the
solution
that
we
experience
with
crime
in
vancouver
is
available
in
it
live
and
how
we
house
people
who
are
homeless
and
unless
we
stop
congregating
people
who
are
struggling
with
poverty
and
mental
illness
and
addiction.
I
believe
we
will
continue
to
experience
crime
and
lack
of
safety.
L
When
I
was
spat
on
an
emergency.
I
almost
left
the
hospital
without
seeing
a
doctor,
because
I
was
so
upset.
Fortunately,
a
doctor
in
in
the
emerge
saw
that
I
was
getting
ready
to
leave
and
offered
me
a
private
room
to
wait
in.
He
gave
me
the
room
where
families
grieve
when
someone
dies
an
emergency.
L
I
was
grateful
for
the
care,
but
I
did
not
want
a
private
room.
I
do
not
want
to
be
privileged
over
the
woman
who
needed
someone's
care
and
wasn't
getting
it.
I
sat
there
grieving
our
broken
system
for
people
who
have
mental
health
and
addictions
and
need
help.
I
wanted
the
woman
to
be
helped
effectively
so
that
everyone
in
our
city
can
feel
safe.
L
L
L
Some
of
people
really
struggling
in
their
lives,
and
this
is
not
stigmatizing
these
individuals,
it's
just
the
reality
that
some
people
who
have
challenges
would
present
a
risk,
and
I
consider
what
happened
to
me
in
a
front
to
my
safety
and
something
that
harmed
me
psychologically
for
a
period
of
time
made
me
afraid-
and
I
imagine
if
this
something
like
this
were
to
happen
to
a
child.
Why
would
we
want
to
risk
subjecting
any
child
to
an
event
like
that
or
something
that
might
cause
cause
them
fear
or
reproach
from
other
people?
L
So
the
main
point
of
my
talking
to
you
today
is
that
we
don't
need
to
make
a
choice.
It
comes
back
to
the
issue.
We
don't
need
to
make
a
choice
about
whose
needs
trump
others.
It
comes
back
to
the
issue
that
support
of
how
we
house,
how
we
do
supportive
housing
in
vancouver,
congregate,
housing
doesn't
work,
it's
been
proven
not
to
work
and
and
recovery.
Oriented
housing
is,
is
a
good
way
to
go,
and
one
of
my
greatest
hopes
for
the
city
is
that
you'll
have
the
courage
to
to
look
at
that.
G
Thanks
so
much-
and
I
think
you've
gotten
to
part
of
the
heart
of
my
question,
but
I'm
just
going
to
ask
you
to
further
elaborate,
as
we
look
at
sort
of
our
four
pillars:
drug
strategy
right
and
there's
prevention
in
there
there's
hard
reduction,
there's
treatment
and
there's
enforcement.
But
when
we
look
at
the
prevention
piece
of
it,
would
you
equate
it
to
okay
if
a
young
child
very
young
is
going
to
go
and
cross
the
road
by
themselves?
G
There's
a
reason
that
we
don't
let
them
be
alone,
there's
a
reason
that
we
perhaps
put
extra
guards
and
protections
around
them.
Is
that
a
concern
that
you
have
so
it's
not
about
stigma
or
fear-mongering,
but
it's
about
protecting
those
who
are
most
vulnerable,
who
can
be
children
and
they
can
also
be
people
with
mental
health
and
addiction
issues.
Is
that
absolutely?
Is
that
one
of
the
concerns
that
you
have?
G
Yes,
it
is
okay
and
and
just
to
we,
we
heard
from
an
earlier
speaker,
I'm
not
sure
if
you've
had
time
to
listen,
some
evenings,
I'm
doing
these
council
meetings
and
putting
my
kid
to
bed.
So
I
completely
appreciate
you
staying
on
the
line
to
talk
to
us.
I'm
wondering:
do
you
think
that
it's
important
also
that
you
know
families
feel
safe
when
they
walk
down
the
street
in
their
neighborhood,
whichever
neighborhood
that
is
in
vancouver?
G
E
Moreover,
community
services,
built
by
and
for
community
members
have
lost
their
funding
over
the
years
have
had
trouble
finding
spaces.
Some
have
dissolved
and
many
others
have
had
to
operate
in
a
more
limited
capacity,
and
this
is
not
something
that's
happened
overnight.
It's
been
a
steady,
deprioritization
and
defunding
of
community
services,
but
at
the
same
time
one
thing
that's
been
equally
steady
is
police
funding,
so
this,
as
we've
already
learned,
is
because
police
simply
refuse
to
take
cuts
like
the
rest
of
us.
A
E
Okay,
wonderful!
Well,
it's
that's!
A
a
really
tough
act
to
follow
incredibly
eloquent
words
there
from
from
markley,
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
you
all
briefly,
not
as
anybody
who
has
any
special
experience
in
the
realm
of
public
safety,
but
as
a
resident
of
the
downtown
eastside
in
the
oppenheimer
area,
but
also
somebody
who
is
a
member
of
sort
of
the
middle
class,
a
film
industry
worker
I'm
a
straight
and
cis-presenting
white
man.
So
I
definitely
don't.
E
I
experience
public
safety
in
the
same
way
that
a
lot
of
marginalized
people
do,
and
the
reason
that
I
signed
up
to
talk
to
this
meeting
in
the
first
place
was
because
I
was
concerned
with
the
way
that
the
meeting
had
sort
of
prioritized
the
perspective
of
business
associations
and
trade
organizations
and
community
policing
centers
as
opposed
to
groups
who
speak
for
the
most
marginalized.
I
found
myself
wondering
you
know
why
there
weren't
more
peer
drug
user
organizations
involved.
E
Perhaps
or
you
know,
I
could
probably
given
more
time-
come
up
with
some
better
other
people
who
might
have
deserved
higher
priority
on
the
speakers
list.
But
I
digress.
Many
other
people
have
spoken
to
that
issue
and
I'm
sure
you're
well
aware
of
it
and
the
next
time
we
convene
a
meeting
like
this,
we'll
see
a
little
bit
of
a
difference
in
the
representation,
and
then
I
also,
as
I
often
do
in
these
kind
of
situations
where
people
are
discussing.
E
E
It's
certainly
I'd
feel
deeply
for
people
who
have
those
feelings,
but
I
encourage
them
to
interrogate
interrogate
those
feelings
a
little
bit
and,
lastly,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
time
I
have.
I
forgot
to
set
a
timer,
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
draw
like
one
last
little
point,
which
is
in
a
time
we've
come
out
of
two
years
of
pandemic
wage
and
income.
E
E
B
E
Yeah,
well
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
I
love
about.
This
neighborhood
and
I
think,
really
sort
of
speaks
to
the
character
of
this
neighborhood
is
that
people
who
live
a
higher
proportion
of
their
life
in
public
in
public
space,
which
is
to
say
you
know
anywhere
that
they
can
be
in
parks
or
on
the
sidewalk,
or
anything
like
that.
G
You
know
with
their
child
and
the
grandmother
came
out
and
spoke
to
media
about
this,
and
the
child
was
spat
on
and
the
week
before,
that
her
twin
sister
had
something
thrown
at
her.
So
what
do
you
say
to
the
parents
who
actually
have
experienced
a
trauma
for
their
for
their
children?
I
get
it.
I
I
try
not
to
risk
my
child
to
fear
everything.
I
love
the
fact
that
she
doesn't
hear
everything,
but
you
also
have
to
protect.
E
E
Yeah
counselor,
I
could
I
appreciate
the
question
and
I
have
really
deep
sympathy
for
what
you
know.
Parents
who
didn't
that
their
their
child
finds
themselves
victim
in
those
situations.
That's
heartbreaking
and
I
wouldn't
wish
anybody
to
experience
that.
But
one
other
thing
that
has
sort
of
popped
into
my
mind
over
the
course
of
this
meeting.
E
G
A
R
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
as
you
may
remember,
from
the
times
I've
spoken
to
you
before
I've
been
the
executive
director
of
the
west
end
coal,
harbor
community,
policing
center
for
nearly
12
years.
I
wasn't
able
to
speak
as
a
community
partner
at
the
first
meeting,
so
I'd
like
to
tell
you
now
about
what
we've
been
doing
in
our
small
square
of
the
city
to
address
public
safety
concerns
due
to
the
changing
social
landscape
in
the
city,
we've
been
adjusting
our
programming
to
keep
up
one
area.
I'd
like
to
showcase
is
related
to
a
trend.
R
I've
observed
at
our
office,
which
is
an
increase
in
request
for
an
immediate
response
to
public
safety
issues.
We're
often
asked
to
deal
with
police
and
non-police
issues
that
are
happening
in
real
time
in
the
community,
but
we
usually
advise
complainants
to
call
9-1-1,
non-emergency,
311
or
other
service
providers
as
necessary.
R
Last
year,
we
physically
responded
in
real
time
to
41
community
complaints.
That
was
nearly
5
of
all
the
reports
we
received.
Now
I
realize
five
percent
is
not
all
that
impressive.
It's
not
all
that
sexy,
but
it
is
when
you
compare
it
to
immediately
responding
to
about
two
percent
of
reports
in
previous
years.
R
Our
immediate
response
actions
range
from
sending
a
volunteer
foot
patrol
foot
patrol
team,
who
was
already
out
in
the
community
sending
a
pair
of
volunteers
from
the
office
or
one
of
two
staff
members
leaving
the
office
and
checking
on
something
ourselves.
The
issues
we
immediately
responded
to
included
wellness
checks,
verbal
altercations,
removal
of
dangerous
waste
and
assault.
R
It's
also
important
for
me
to
note
here
as
well
that
in
the
past
eight
months,
our
foot
patrol
volunteers
have
witnessed
two
stranger
attacks,
one
of
which
was
on
an
elderly
individual.
The
volunteers
not
only
provided
emotional
support
to
the
victim,
but
they
were
also
good
witnesses
called
9-1-1
and
were
able
to
get
the
suspects
apprehended.
R
Another
shift
we
have
incorporated
is
when
dealing
with
street
disorder
and
the
individuals
involved
in
what
is
considered
street
disorder.
For
the
past
two
or
three
years,
we
have
been
actively
engaging
with
more
people
on
the
street
and
are
using
more
trauma-informed
approaches
when
talking
with
them.
Historically,
cpcs
have
acted
in
a
observe
and
report
capacity
for
the
vpd.
R
But
again
not
all
concerns
are
police
related
when
we
approach
individuals
who
appear
to
be
under
the
influence
of
opioids,
although
we're
wearing
branding
which
identifies
our
organization,
our
approach
is
to
ask
the
individual,
if
they're,
okay,
remind
them
of
the
health
risks
of
doing
drugs
in
isolation
or
alone,
encourage
them
to
use
safe
injection
sites
and
provide
them
with
the
information
about
the
closest
injection
site.
If
it's
needed,
when
we
approach
individuals
who
appear
to
be
experiencing
homelessness
rather
than
introducing
ourselves
as
community
policing,
volunteers,
we
just
say
we're
with
the
local
cc.
R
We
find
this
helps
to
reduce
the
triggering
that
sometimes
happens
upon.
Hearing
the
word
policing
in
2021
during
our
wellness
checks,
we
distributed
56,
cold
weather
kits
to
unhoused
individuals
in
our
community
in
january
february,
november
and
december,
and
we
distributed
71
hot
weather
kits
through
june
july
and
august.
R
The
last
thing
I'd
like
to
bring
up
is
in
reference
to
the
commercial
crime,
the
shoplifting
the
broken
windows
and
doors
and
the
under
reported
crime.
Our
foot
patrol
volunteers
have
been
visiting
the
businesses
in
our
area
to
talk
about
the
crime
trends,
to
help
reduce
the
under-reported
statistics
from
october
15th
to
december
14th.
Our
volunteers
visited
117
117
businesses
and
shockingly
71
percent
of
those
businesses
had
not
reported
their
victimization
to
police
71.
R
Without
our
patrols.
Those
issues
would
continue
to
be
unreported
and
as
a
result,
unknown
and
unanswered
by
the
police.
So
our
catchment
area
is
about
1
8
of
the
entire
city,
maybe
one-sixth
of
the
city.
If
all
of
us
were
able
to
start
to
see
the
bigger
picture
and
work
together,
I
believe
we
would
be
able
to
make
to
make
positive
changes
in
the
city,
as
chief
palmer
said,
on
the
first
day
of
this
meeting,
it
can't
be
an
either
or
model
when
it
comes
to
public
safety
and
the
organizations
involved
in
driving
it.
A
R
R
Thank
you
so
much
for
hearing
me
this
evening.
I
live
in
kitsilano
in
what
is
deemed
to
be
a
relatively
safe
neighborhood.
I
put
that
in
quotes,
although
less
so
since
the
recent
recent
murder
in
the
in
the
neighborhood,
but
I
don't
always
feel
safe
and
regularly
regularly
witness
reckless
behavior
endangering
others
and
crime
like
like
others.
I
have
concerns
about
under-reporting
of
crime
due
to
incredibly
long
hold
times
for
the
non-emergency
number
limited
by
law
enforcement,
putting
even
more
pressure
on
the
police,
limited,
proactive,
policing,
etc.
R
This
falls
in
part
on
the
police,
but
also
on
the
city,
housing,
affordability
and
general
affordability,
both
contributing
to
the
mental
health,
addiction
and
general
health
crises
are
contributing
to
stress
and
desperation
increasing
crime.
The
lack
of
city
response
to
these
contributory
issues,
as
well
as
the
lack
of
proactive
policing,
means
that
crime
is
running
rampant.
R
This
is
the
only
city
I
have
lived
in,
and
I've
lived
in
five
cities
where
I
have
repeatedly
witnessed
people
walking
out
of
stores
like
london,
drugs
and
markzware
warehouse,
among
others,
with
big
ticket
items,
sometimes
without
even
an
effort
for
them
to
get
to
conceal
the
items.
Businesses
seem
at
a
loss
as
to
what
to
do
and
won't
pursue
these
fear
of
violence.
Writing
item
writing
items
off
only
increases
costs
for
paying
customers
and
contributes
the
ongoing
unaffordability
of
the
city.
R
Street
racing
is
also
rampant
and
out
of
control,
and
this
is
often
not
pursued.
The
vpd
wants
information,
but
only
so
that,
if
somebody
is
injured,
they
can
pursue
them.
There
isn't
a
lot
of
proactivity
to
actually
do
that.
Just
the
other.
Since
the
last
meeting,
I
witnessed
a
car
take
a
corner
so
quickly
that
it
fishtailed
before
roaring
off
down
a
busy
street.
Additionally,
the
city,
police
parks,
board
and
transit
police
need
to
work
together
and
proactive
at
proactively.
R
I
belong
to
a
neighborhood
group
that
discusses
theft
where
people
have
identified
crimes
taking
place.
I
have
witnessed
and
documented
vandalism
to
translink
and
nothing
was
done
about
it
because
it's
perceived
as
too
expensive
for
transit,
police
or
police
to
enforce.
As
a
result,
those
who
start
off
vandalizing
public
property
with
no
consequences,
not
even
a
fine,
will
likely
be
involved,
he'll
embolden
to
move
on
to
private
property
or
some
other
mischief
or
crime,
as
there
is
little
enforcement
laws
here
are
almost
meaningless
because
of
the
lack
of
enforcement.
R
The
city,
vpd
parks,
board
and
transit
police
need
to
work
collaboratively.
I
have
walked
into
an
alley
near
my
home
at
dusk
and
for
glancing
over
at
someone
by
a
dumpster.
Had
a
knife
pointed
my
way.
I've
been
in
a
parking
lot
where
20
minutes
later
there
was
a
shooting
in
the
alley
behind
it.
I
witnessed
people
on
the
street
so
enraged
or
high
that
they
were
yelling
and
repeatedly
throwing
their
bikes
against
a
tree.
R
I've
seen
firecrackers
set
off
horizontally
down
the
street
and
an
alley
I
have
seen
piles
of
pills
left
on
walls,
people
leaning
into
paper
bins
with
with
lighters
appearing
ready
to
set
a
fire.
All
of
these
contribute
to
diminished
feeling
of
safety
in
our
city,
I've
been
a
city
dweller
my
whole
life,
and
this
is
the
only
city
I've
lived
in
where
I
felt
more
unsafe.
The
only
city
I've
lived
in
where
I
felt
more
unsafe
are
parts
of
miami.
R
I
have
witnessed
four
police
officers
standing
by
during
an
event
with
a
piece
of
art
being
used
as
a
drum,
and
when
I
asked
if
they
were
going
to
do
anything,
they
said
not
in
life,
unless
a
life
was
immediately
in
danger
with
four
officers,
I
could
not
understand
why
there
was
no
attempt
to
protect
property
and,
by
the
way
I
apologize.
I
timed
this
as
five
minutes,
so
just
bear
with
me.
I'm
almost
done.
We
need.
R
We
need
patrols
in
all
areas
of
the
city
to
deter
crime,
including
violent
crimes,
but
also
trespassing
theft
and
daring,
generous
behavior.
This
is
the
only
city
where
I've
lived,
where
I
do
not
feel
safe,
going
out
on
halloween
a
night
where
children
should
feel
safe,
firecrackers
being
set
up
horizontally
down
the
street
and
in
the
alley
behind
where
I
live
made
me
feel
unsafe
to
exit
my
home.
This
might
seem
like
just
mischief
until
someone
gets
hurt,
like
the
woman
who
had
a
firecracker
enter
her
bedroom
a
couple
of
years
ago.
R
I'm
aware
that
firecrackers
have
since
been
banned,
but
you
still
hear
them
and
it
takes
people
getting
hurt
for
any
action
to
be
taken.
Prevention
and
a
proactive
policing,
proactive
policing
play
a
huge
role
in
public
safety,
but
appear
to
be
lacking
in
vancouver.
In
fact,
they
were
more
proactive.
R
R
We
need
more
proactive
proactivity
by
police
in
not
only
business
strict
districts,
but
also
in
communities.
We
need
community
policing
offices
that
aren't
just
staff
with
volunteers,
but
also
where
there
are
police
officers
for
people
to
connect
with
and
and
come
and
report
crimes
and
and
let
the
police
know
what's
going
on
in
their
community.
R
A
Thank
you
very
much
clerks.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
quorum.
I
don't
think
we
might
have
now
just
remind
counselors
that
you
have
to
have
your
video
on
to
be
counted
for
quorum.
I
think
I
see
enough
for
quorum
now,
thanks
very
much
council.
We
are
now
moving
on
to
the
next
speaker,
speaker,
number
56,
randall,
herzoc,.
A
Thank
you,
speaker,
number
16
louis
hurt
hello
hi
there.
Just
before
you
start
clerks,
we
are
coming
near
the
end
of
the
list.
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
might
be
able
to
compile
the
names
I
called
and
folks
weren't
here.
So
I
can
go
through
that
in
a
few
minutes
and
then
we're
gonna
move
on
with
lewis
hart.
Please
go
ahead
up
to
five
minutes.
T
T
However,
I
want
to
come
with
a
recommendation
more
than
anything
today.
I
think
we
will
share
experiences
and
just
adding
to
the
pile
isn't
going
to
help.
So
this
is
with
the
consultation
with
and
approval
and
recommend
and
approval
of
the
chinatown
merchant
association,
the
vancouver
chinatown
foundation
and
the
bia.
T
Today
I
just
want
to
present
a
viable
and
economical
solution
to
improving
public
safety
through
community
and
business
means,
but
also
highlight
the
inverse
effects
of
the
public
safety.
A
current
bylaw
has
on
designated
areas,
especially
chinatown
in
reference
to
chinatown
and
gastown
vancouver's
liquor
moratorium
has
severely
limited
community
vigilance,
economic
growth
and
exposure
of
social
needs
to
younger
generations.
T
The
most
notable
misuse
of
data
is
such
that
between
2007
and
2012,
the
number
of
liquor
primaries
increased
by
42,
whereas
the
number
of
calls
to
police
increased
by
44..
This
data
failed
to
extract
the
olympics,
the
stanley
cup
riot,
a
booming
tourism
trade
and
a
population
increase
of
140
in
the
downtown
eastside
prior
between
1991
and
the
2007
study.
It
also
failed
to
mention
the
introduction
of
barwatch
a
hospitality-led
initiative
where
bars
were
directed
to
be
vigilant
and
call
the
police,
but
this
vigilance
was
used
against
us
in
2017..
T
Covid
allowed
for
all
fragmented
parts
of
society
to
show
the
best
in
the
best
and
worst
light
public
safety
issues
that
are
being
mentioned
during
this
meeting
are
all
at
their
worst,
where
liquor
moratoriums
exist,
as
they
provide
a
chokehold
on
business
development,
as
well
as
a
licensed
monopoly.
Creating
a
slow
and
steady
decline
of
operational
standards
as
society
evolves.
T
T
Sorry
night
night
time
focused
businesses,
west
kefir
and
east
keefer
have
stark
differences
in
graffiti
and
public
perceptions
of
residents
on
east
georgia
is
that
they
feel
a
lot
safer
since
the
introduction
of
nighttime
businesses
and
a
younger,
more
socially
aware
crowd,
chinatown's
previous
legacy
night
destinations
have
since
closed,
and
a
fresh
diligent
face
has
emerged
as
its
core
four
chinatown
venues
were
listed
with
global
accolades
last
week
by
our
industry's
version
of
the
oscars
chinatown's
evening.
Scene
is
now
led
by
female-owned
businesses
such
as
kisatanzo
and
chickadee
room
legacy.
T
Sorry,
I
just
lost
my
spot
there,
food
primary
licensing
states,
the
kitchens
must
remain
open
for
service
to
continue
with
a
much
reduced
capacity.
This
has
caused
some
businesses
to
be
closed
due
to
lack
of
star,
rather
than
practice
responsible
liquor
service.
Like
many,
we
are
facing
the
largest
labor
shortage
our
industry
has
faced
and
kitchen
and
closing
staff
do
not
feel
safe
to
work
in
chinatown.
Our
supplies
are
all
bought
from
chinatown
using
legacy
businesses
providing
an
extra
lease
on
life,
while
tourism
and
public
safety
perceptions
are
decreasing.
T
T
In
the
last
month
alone,
no
less
than
three
of
the
city
councillors
have
visited
these
businesses
and
the
mayor
is
a
frequent
visitor
to
a
couple
himself.
These
are
responsible
businesses
that
need
the
bylaws
to
change
and
the
legacy
businesses
either
side
of
them
need
these
businesses
to
be
viable.
T
The
economics
of
the
rooms
and
spaces
in
chinatown
do
not
allow
us
to
pay
more
than
we
currently
are,
which
for
kitchen
staff
is
still
sitting
above
what
the
city
deems
as
a
living
wage.
The
economics
of
the
spaces
also
do
not
allow
for
large
scale
corporate
operators
to
be
interested
in
the
area,
but
thanks.
A
B
B
T
All
it's
doing
is
it
is
causing
a
negative
effect
on
those
businesses,
but
it's
also
allowing
an
extra
period
of
time
for
criminals
to
cause
petty
crime
when
we're
all
kind
of
running
full
steam
and
we're
open
till
one
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
It
only
provides
a
four-hour
window
for
a
criminal
to
come
to
commit
a
petty
crime.
T
Until
the
morning
businesses
come
in,
but
on
east
kiefer,
when
there's
no
nighttime
businesses,
there
that's
a
14-hour
window
window,
and
so
it's
not
looking
to
drop
the
liquor
moratorium,
but
to
look
at
what
it
currently
does
to
public
safety
and
what
it
does
to
local
businesses.
That
are
diligent
because
it
doesn't
allow
us
to
have
any
breathing
room
whatsoever
during
the
current
circumstances
and
how
we
support
the
support.
The
local
area
that
it's
a
it's
a
lifeline.
B
I
Yeah
thanks
I'll
pick
up
on
council
surprise
and
I
do
think
there
may
have
been
some
counselors
that
have
spent
some
time
on
that
block.
Supporting
local
business
he's
correct
the
question
that
I
have
for
you
other
than
sort
of
liquor
moratorium
is
a
couple
of
questions
is
you're
speaking
also
to
sort
of
flexibility
across
multiple
categories
or
use
on
space.
Is
that
correct?
I
T
Yeah,
we
can't
even
apply
like
restaurants
here
can't
even
apply
for
dual
licensing,
so
we
can't
even
come
across
a
situation
where
we
can
apply
for
a
liquor
primary
with
the
would
say,
a
caveat
of
kitchens
remaining
open
until
9,
00
pm
or
10
pm
and
being
everyone
must
be
seated
until
that
time.
We
don't.
We
don't
have
anything
like
that,
and
after
10
o'clock,
families
are
not
walking
through
chinatown.
I
Okay
and
then
just
to
keep
going
just
have
a
limited
time,
so
you
know,
in
addition
to
sort
of
the
business
opportunity
and
filling
up
those
empty
storefronts
having
more
opportunities.
Is
it
also
in
your
mind?
It
contributes
to
public
safety
that
you're,
having
sort
of
more
vibrancy
and
people
coming
and
going
at
different
times
of
the
day
within
the
neighborhood.
T
Yeah,
it
definitely
adds
to
public
safety
because
again
when,
when
these
businesses
were
first
opening
or
during
the
construction
phase,
nothing
was
open
after
five
o'clock
and
graffiti
was
starting
from
eight
pm
and
now
with
people
leaving
at
two
in
the
morning
and
staff,
leaving
at
three
till
four.
It's
such
a
limited
window
that
there's
been
a
vast
difference
in
the
amount
of
graffiti.
T
The
other
part
of
it
as
well,
is
allowing
younger
people
to
see
the
downtown
eastside
and
people
with
social
needs
that
aren't
committing
crime
and
being
able
to
differentiate
between
someone
who
is
a
criminal
and
someone
who's
just
residing
in
the
area,
as
opposed
to
just
the
going
on
social
media
and
seeing
a
very
bug
graffiti
post.
That
says
yet
again:
smash
windows
yeah
again
graffiti
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
differentiate
between
the
good
and
the
bad
of
society
if
we're
not
exposed
to
it.
I
A
A
B
B
L
A
M
Thank
you.
You
know
it's
something
to
have
my
name
mentioned
as
being
part
as
a
speaker,
because
there
was
a
speaker
who
spoke
out
about
chinatown
and
the
difficulties
she
was
having,
and
she
has
been
kind
of
bullied
and
abused
on
twitter
in
the
last
couple
of
days.
So
you
know,
I
would
prefer
that
my
name
doesn't
go
out
there.
M
For
that
reason,
I
don't
feel
safe,
sometimes
speaking,
my
truth,
because
I
feel,
like
I'm
gonna,
get
attacked
from
all
sorts
of
entities
in
this
city,
but
anyway,
let
me
speak
to
what
I
want
to
really
talk
about,
which
is,
I
don't
feel
safe
when
we
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
community
consultation
where
decisions
are
made
by
people
who
are
faceless
and
I'll.
Just
give
you
an
example.
M
There
have
been
lots
of
other
issues,
but
anyway,
two
years
ago,
the
overdose
prevention
site
was
despite
the
community
not
wanting
it.
It
was
established,
and
I
thought
to
myself
well
at
least
when
it
comes
up
renewal,
there'll
be
some
discussion
about
it.
City
councillors
will
talk
about
it
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
phone
in.
It
just
sounded
like
the
the
obvious,
but
I'm
hearing
that
it's
been
renewed,
that
it's
been
renewed
by
apparently
a
city
staff
member.
M
M
Sort
of
russian
in
flavor,
if
you
like,
where
decisions
are
made,
as
I
say
by
people
that
we
don't
know,
we
don't
know
what
their
political
views
are.
We
don't
know
what
their
agenda
is
and
we
can't
speak
to
them.
There
has
been
no
community
consultation
in
what
is
happening
in
our
neighborhood
and
that's
just
something
that
I
expected
of
canada.
I
feel
really
let
down
and
I
try
to
avoid
crossing
seymour
and
helping.
I
mean
it's
difficult
because
there's
granville
as
well,
which
can
also
be
a
little
bit
of
a
bouncy
area.
M
And
this
lovely
area
that
was
created
a
park,
a
little
dog
park,
a
playground,
everything
is
so
precious
and
yet
it
is
being
changed
by.
I
don't
know
people
that
don't
live
here,
people
that
have
no
interest
in
talking
to
the
people
who
live
here
and
that
doesn't
make
me
feel
safe.
When
I
have
no
voice
and
just
one
more
thing,
I've
lost
three
friends:
who've
left
this
neighborhood
because
they
just
can't
take
it
anymore.
M
G
Thanks
kate,
for
coming
to
speak
to
council,
you
had
spoken
a
little
bit
about
the
public
safety
issues
that
you
feel
and
that
you
encounter
around
blps
in
your
community
and
at
the
time
we
had
that
meeting.
Although
that
was
changed
from
a
two-thirds
vote
in
a
grant
to
a
lease
mid-meeting
actually
over
a
weekend,
I'm
wondering
did
you
feel
that
the
terms
and
conditions
of
this
good
neighbor
agreement
were
met?
B
G
M
G
Okay,
and
can
I
ask
you,
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
so
you
don't
have
to
answer
my
questions,
but
personally,
what
have
you?
What
behaviors
have
you
changed?
I
mean
you
you've
shared
with
us
that
you've
lost
friends
in
the
neighborhood,
but
are
you
are
you
unable
to
walk
to
go
grocery
shopping
to
use
the
park?
I
mean,
what
is
it
that
that
concerns
you
about
your
own
public
safety
advice
now.
M
M
I
feel
safer
than
the
neighborhood
I
used
to
live
in,
which
was
tinseltown,
sorry
crosstown,
but
would
I
go
out
at
night
at
about?
If
I
had
to
get
to
the
airport
very
early
and
stuff?
Would
I
go
out
to
four
or
five
am
no?
I
would
not
no,
but
generally
speaking,
there's
a
lot
of
people
here
in
a
way
for
this
kind
of
safety
in
numbers,
but
there
are
certain
times
of
the
day
or
night.
When
you,
you
would
be
safer.
A
E
Okay,
I
live
in
vancouver
and
I
work
in
the
film
industry
for
the
25
years,
23
of
them
here
in
vancouver
and
I'd
like
to
speak
to
the
changes
in
the
last
few
years
in
the
film
industry
20
years
ago,
outside
of
the
downtown
east
side,
we
mostly
came
in.
We
filmed
we
cleaned
up
after
ourselves
and
we
moved
on
now.
It
seems
everywhere
within
the
city
of
vancouver.
E
The
day
of
filming
a
smaller
follow-up
cleaning
crew
comes
in,
do
the
similar
work.
We
used
to
clean
the
swimming
area
and
maybe
the
alley
if
we
had
to
cable
or
power
through
the
alley.
Now
we
clean
blocks
and
blocks
of
street
parking
the
set
the
parking
lots
where
the
base
camp
is
where
we
park,
the
catering
trucks,
lunch,
tents
and
then
security
has
to
be
positioned
everywhere.
E
Last
fall,
I
was
with
a
production
that
filmed
multiple
days
downtown
and
the
production
had
a
warning
to
our
in
the
safety
meeting
each
day
for
our
crew
to
be
careful
within
the
city,
to
not
walk
the
three
blocks
to
the
crew
parking
lot,
but
rather
wait
for
transport
to
pick
them
up
and
bring
them
there.
I
recently
worked
with
an
american
producer
who
last
did
a
movie
in
vancouver
in
2005..
She
spoke
of
the
changes.
She
said
that
then
downtown
eastside
was
bad,
but
the
rest
of
the
city
felt
safe.
E
Now
these
complex
problems
seem
to
be
everywhere
and
that
vancouver
no
longer
feels
like
a
safe
city.
We
are
hearing
it
more
and
more
on
set
vancouver
is
not
a
safe
city
about
a
clean
city,
and
these
cleaning
costs
are
massive.
Each
day
can
be
an
extra
ten
thousand
dollars
in
cleaning
and
security,
and
up
to
now
the
vancouver,
the
film
industry
has
been
eating.
E
These
costs,
but
you
know
booking
the
vancouver
police
to
assist
additional
security
on
set,
is
extremely
helpful,
but
that's
the
big
ticket
cost,
the
vancouver
police
officer
is
150
an
hour
per
officer
per.
However
many
officers
per
day
on
a
12-hour
day,
the
cost
gets
out
of
control
very
fast.
Moving
tvs
come
to
vancouver
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons,
but
the
one
overall
reason
is
that
the
costs
are
less
than
vancouver,
and
that
and
something
like
this-
the
big
ticket
item,
like
the
vancouver
police
department,
booking
them
to
just
keep
the
crew
safe.
E
You
know,
could
add
half
a
million
dollars
to
a
65
day
movie
shoot.
This
is
a
line
item
that
could
be
the
difference
between
movies
coming
to
vancouver
and
going
elsewhere,
and
I'm
you
know,
I'm
speaking,
there's
bigger
problems
out
there
with
the
crime
and
safety,
but
I'm
speaking
to
my
experience
in
working
in
vancouver
becoming
not
a
safe
place
to
work
anymore.
Thank
you.
A
G
E
We
we
have
to
have
it
within
the
safety
meetings,
we're
warning
our
people
to
take
the
transit
with
friends
and
or,
if
they're,
driving,
to
to
take
the
shuttle
to
not
take
the
address
and
show
up
at
work,
and
so
this
was
not
a
thing
20
years.
This
wasn't
a
thing
five
years
ago,
but
now
we
have
to
talk
about
safety
and
about
needles
and
about
cleaning
and
these
costs,
and
so
it
is
a
big
deal
and
we
do
have
people
that
turn
down
work
in
vancouver
and
they
accept
it.
E
It's
become
all
of
vancouver.
Even
the
west
end
has
become
very
difficult
to
film
in
where
you
find
needles
in
the
west
end
that
you
never
found
before,
and
we
do
have
people
that
refuse
work
in
vancouver
and
and
like
you
said
they
will
accept
it,
and
the
movie
industry
is
moving
out
of
vancouver
they're
starting
to
move
east
they're
starting
to
move
into
langley
they're
starting
to
move
into
these
places.
G
G
Is
it
the
same
thing
in
the
film
industry,
where
you
know
the
more
word
of
mouth,
the
more
they
hear
about
this,
the
more
safety
briefings
as
you've
mentioned
people
have
to
have.
They
worry
about?
Why
they're
having
them
and
and
why
bother
if
the
pay
is
the
same
in
langley?
Are
you
concerned
that
we're
actually
going
to
see
economic
repercussions
in
vancouver
in
the
city.
E
S
E
G
E
They're
concerned
about
the
drug
drug
use,
canadian
film
crews
are
used
to
seeing
people
shooting
up
on
the
street
and
they
used
to
turn
their
back
on
it
or
used
to
seeing
it.
And
here
we
come
in
on
our
budget
items
and
we're
hiring
people
in
case
someone,
overdoses,
we're
hiring
security,
we're
cleaning
up
and
they
see
these
budget
items
and
they're
concerned
and
they're
wondering
well.
Why
are
we
paying
for
all
this
cost.
E
A
B
E
B
That's
okay,
yeah!
It's
funny,
because
I
was
location
managing
back
in
the
mid
late,
80s
and
and
often
shooting
in
gas
town
in
chinatown,
downtown
east
side
and
reflected
on
a
tv
movie.
We
did
called
christmas
on
division
street
in
1991,
which
was
about
an
old
homeless
man
where
we
were
shooting
in
the
back
alleys
behind
the
the
balmoral
and
then
just
reflecting
on.
How
can
you
imagine
today
how
much
things
have
changed
and,
as
you
know,
and
I
think
pointed
out,
it's
a
competitive
process.
B
There's
you
know
people
sitting
in
los
angeles
that
are
crunching
the
numbers
and
budgeting
us
against
toronto
and
atlanta
and
albuquerque
and
everywhere
else,
but
all
cities
are
struggling
with
these
kinds
of
problems.
Do
you
hear
echoes
of
of
this
from
your
from
the
producers
coming
in
that
they're
having
similar
problems
in
other
cities.
E
No,
I'm
I'm
hearing
that.
Well
mostly,
what
I'm
hearing
about
is
the
surprise
that
that
it's
here
in
vancouver
and
that
they
were
coming
here
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
a
lot
of
times,
they're
told
they're
coming
here
and
and
it's
really
about
money
and
then
they
get
here
and
these
costs
are
not
budgeted
for
and
they're
really
surprised
by
the
security
and
they
got
to
keep
the
film
crew
safe
and
people
dial
these
1-800
numbers
to
click.
E
And
you
got
to
pick
up
all
these
needles
and
everyone's
afraid
of
what
they're.
You
know
what
they're
stepping
around
and
next
thing
you
know,
we've
got
to
bring
in
modular
fencing
to
protect
the
truck
and
to
stop
people
from
from
going
through
them
and
that's
a
huge,
huge
cost
that
didn't
exist
even
10
years
ago.
B
H
D
H
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
K
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
clerks,
okay.
So
that
concludes
our
agenda.
We
have
no
other
speakers
listed
and
we've
called
through
the
list
of
those
who
are
not
present,
as
per
our
bylaws,
so
council
may
submit
further
questions
to
staff
by
email
to
deputy
city
manager.
Karen
levitt
and
responses
will
be
provided
via
memo
or
incorporated
in
the
report
to
council
in
june.
2022
with
that,
can
we
have
a
motion
to
adjourn.
Please.