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A
B
B
A
Today,
they
still
want
to
move
forward
with
annexing
and
zoning,
this
black
shaded
area
they're,
requesting
to
annex
it
and
zone
at
r1,
single-family
residential,
the
property
is
adjacent
city
limits
and
the
Lots
would
be
able
to
conform
to
the
r1
size.
If,
if
we
do
an
extortion
in
one
of
the
issues
we
had
at
the
preliminary
plan
that
they
needed
to
for
international
fire
safety
rules,
they
had
to
connect
12th
Avenue
to
10th
Avenue,
to
allow
fire
trucks
to
ways
in
and
out.
A
B
B
B
A
B
D
D
D
D
B
D
B
B
D
B
B
E
We
have
no
problems
with
what's
going
on
to
the
bottom
of
the
red
line,
but
as
as
planners
as
a
whole,
I
guess,
I
I
want
to
share
some
concerns
or
issues.
Maybe
we
have
as
property
owners
around
that
area,
so
actually
I
have
a
little
handout
for
you
and
I'm
just
gonna.
Let
you
pass
it
down
the
road
if
you
just
want
to
pass
those
down,
that
would
be
great.
E
F
E
I
I'm
not
coming
here,
angry
I'm
not
coming
here,
super
upset
or
anything,
but
I
do
think
there
are
some
concerns
and
issues
that
maybe
we
need
to
address
if
you
look
at
this
handout
that
I
have
here.
I
just
want
to
make
a
note
that
those
pictures
at
the
bottom
were
taken
yesterday
and
I
think
we
need
the
number
one
thing
that
I
have
on
there
is
that
the
green
way
to
the
north
of
Cherry
Drive
always
has
standing
water,
and
that
would
be
these
two
pictures
here.
This
is
new.
E
This
area
right
here
is
new
newly
developed
as
of
last
year,
and
I
can
say
that
is
living
there
or
having
that
land
for
20
years
we
have
never
had
standing
water
continually
year
or
day
after
day
after
day,
there
used
to
be
water
in
some
lower
area
to
the
east
of
there,
but
it
would
dry
up
this,
never
dries
up
and
honestly,
if
I
owned
that
property
to
the
south
of
that
I'd
be
really
upset.
First
of
all,
it's
a
safety
concern.
E
G
E
B
E
E
E
This
is
this:
is
our
property
right
here.
This
is
I
can
tell
you
living
there
for
so
long.
Our
Road
used
to
go
this
way
there
used
to
be
a
culvert
here.
There
used
to
be
a
a
hole
here,
used
to
be
a
ditch,
a
hole.
I
would
consider
it
a
slough
that
Slough
would
dry
up
in
I
mean
we've
had
two
pretty
dry
years.
This
is
still
not
dry.
As
of
yesterday
we
had
water
there.
E
It's
there
always
is
water
in
there
and
I
just
think
that
that
isn't
what
it
was
intended
to
be
that
wasn't
the
intended
purpose
of
that
Greenway
in
there
so
I'm,
just
asking
yeah
I
know
that
you,
you
put
plans
into
place,
but
maybe
some
follow
up
on
that.
If
you
could
help
the
citizens
in
that
area,
up
there
figure
out.
How
do
we
get
that
improved
a
little
bit
so
because
it's
new,
it's
it'll,
be
interesting
to
see
what
happens
this
summer.
But
honestly
it's
been
dry
and
I'm,
not
sure.
E
B
F
If
I
may
I'd
like
to
address
just
a
little
bit
of
that,
because
I
know
that
there
is
an
issue
up
there,
where
the
waterway
was
there
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
I
think
what's
happened,
you're
absolutely
right,
it
didn't
hold
water
for
a
long
time,
but
we'd
have
all
these
homes
up
there.
Now
that
are
in
that
shallow,
you
know
with
the
high
water
coming
up
and
yeah
every
one
of
them
are
pumping
water
out.
There
has
to
be
a
solution.
I
know,
I'm
getting
emails
from
a
gal.
F
Up
there
and
she
is
struggling
with
water
there
and-
and
it
sits
there-
whether
we
have
to
tile
that
and
put
the
sump
pumps
in
there
to
get
the
water
out
is,
is
one
of
the
ideas
that
the
engineering
department
is
looking
at,
but
I
do
know
that
they're
looking
at
two
or
three
different
items,
different
ways
that
we
can
move
the
water.
It's.
E
H
E
You
it's
not
some
pumps,
that's
making
that
water
go
there.
I
walked
there
when
the
snow
melted,
the
ice.
The
frost
came
out
of
the
ground.
The
snow
melted,
the
water
is
running
from
this
field.
Here
it's
going
down
here
it's
going
across
here
it
was
crossing
the
road
that
road
was
just
water
and
it
there's
not
enough
sump
pumps
up
there.
People
didn't
have
their
sump
pumps
running
out
there,
so
the
water
was
just
a
natural
drain
coming
off
this
field
off
this
way
and
down
into
that.
B
Right
now,
those
sump
pumps
are
probably
still
in
the
drains,
aren't
they
or
the
outside
no
Sarah.
Just
just
for
a
point
of
the
area.
The
area
that
we're
zoning
and
planning
today
is
south
of
there,
but
while
that
that's
up
there,
can
you
explain
Sarah
between
Sarah
and
Jeff?
We
can
see
the
natural
drainage
way
there
across
the
street
or
where
that
water
is
being
held.
It
looks
like
it's
one
lot.
Is
it?
Is
it
a
public
lot,
there's
a
private
lot
and
it's
just
not
been
plaited.
No.
C
D
B
D
D
It
could
be
tiled,
you
know
it's.
Can
you
turn
on
the
wetland
map?
The
part
of
the
problem
is
this
is
a
wetland
and
it's
been
designated
a
wetland.
You
see
where
the
water
ponds.
It
was
designated
a
wetland
before
this
ever
developed
and
the
Corps
of
Engineers
has
looked
at
this
and
we
can
dry
it
up.
We,
its
wetlands
are
protected,
but
that
doesn't
mean
you
can't
develop
around
them.
D
We
would
have
to
mitigate,
but
there's
a
couple
of
different
things
that
you
could
do
to
change
that
and
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
development
did
change
it.
They
had
equipment
in
that
channel
and
the
equipment
left
the
land
lower
where
the
water
ponds
then
downstream.
So
the
water
can't
flow
and
there's
just
not
very
much
great
and
the
whole
thing
where
you
can
make
it
be
a
steady
grade,
but
I
know
the
engineers
here
and
he
had
the
contractor
out
there
trying
to
regrade
and
make
it
drain
and
there's
it's
not
the
same.
D
Having
soil
and
vegetation
needs
a
greater
slope.
Then
you
can't
control
it
as
well
as
you
could
pavement
or
concrete
that
sort
of
thing.
So
it
is
an
issue
we,
we
know
it
was
a
wetland,
the
water
that
she's
talking
about
draining
to.
It
is
also
a
wetland,
and
this
isn't
new
information.
This
information
we've
had
for
decades.
D
We
know
it's
wet
and
when
you
develop
in
wetland
areas,
these
are
the
kind
of
problems
you
can
expect
and
it
only
exacerbates
it
when
everyone
wants
to
have
a
basement
and
the
basements
pump
24/7,
they
don't
stop.
It
isn't.
Just
when
there's
a
rainstorm
there's
a
trickle
of
water
and
every
place,
we
have
ditches
downstream
from
areas
that
have
sumps.
We
have
these
kind
of
problems
and
we
get
calls
all
the
time
for
it's.
D
Why
we're
doing
19th
Street
we're
putting
under
grain
underground
drains
there
we've
had
nothing
but
complaints
about
those
from
the
moment
they
went
in
because
people
drain
their
sumps
to
them.
They
never
dry
up,
and
you
know
it
used
to
be
when
it
would
rain
the
water
would
flow
through
it
and
then
it
would
dry
up.
But
when
you
pave-
and
you
change
the
natural
ground
that
doesn't
happen
anymore
and
we've
done
that
out.
B
F
B
You
it's
nice
for
us
as
applying
commissioned
to
be
able
to
see
that
the
tail
end
of
a
development
like
that,
where
we
can
look
and
see,
we
said
it
was
going
to
drain
this
way.
Did
it
drain
this
way,
but
there's
a
lot
of
other
factors
that
change
everyday
things
that
are
in
our
control
and
things
that
are
not
in
our
control,
probably
add
something
say.
H
That
is
creating
a
lot
of
concern
for
us
north
of
the
road,
because
we're
not
sure
where
that
water
is
gonna
go
now,
but
it's
supposed
to
go
into
the
storm
sewer,
but
we
don't
know
if
that'll
actually
happen
the
way
it
was
planned
and
developed,
and
so
all
of
this,
where
this
water
did
run
we're
concerned
about
where
that's
gonna
go
in
a
wet
year
and
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
I'm
with
Counting
I.
Don't
think
anybody's
really
truly
upset
about
it.
H
We're
just
saying
hey:
we
want
you
to
be
aware
of
it
and
look
at
it
and
plan
accordingly,
because
you
know
we
did
see.
Lake
Sarah
was
talking
about
the
the
equipment
in
here
this.
This
probably
is
deeper
today
than
it
ever
was
before,
and
that's
probably
why
it
doesn't
flow
out
now,
and
so
maybe
there
are
some
things
that
can
happen
there
to
to
help
that
in
the
future.
B
I
know,
there's
there's
just
as
many
concerns
to
the
people
downstream
to
where
there's
more
water
running
through
their
stuff
than
had
ever
been
before.
It's
always,
it's
always
a
trick
to
get
the
water
from
one
place
either
want
it
or
don't
and
there's
nothing
in-between
with
with
water.
Just
for
the
record
north
of
14th,
that's
County,
still
County,
okay!
Well!
Thank
you.
Okay,.
E
E
If
it
moves
further
east,
it's
going
to
be
somebody
else's
issue
and
not
mine,
but
it
looks
bad
Don
Roby
last
year
went
to
bat
for
us
and
got
a
lot
of
those
guys
to
clean
up
stuff,
but
it's
back
again.
I,
don't
know
if,
when
people
are
taking
out
building
permits,
if
there's
something
that
can
be
done
to
help
get
some
of
that
trash
picked
up
or
not
blow
around
some
contractors.
Aren't
as
messy
as
others,
it's
it's
just
recruiting.
F
B
E
That's
been
there
pray
a
couple
years
and
the
other
one
was
a
picture
of
a
nail
in
the
road
and,
as
I
stated
on
number
four
I
bet:
we've
had
five
tires
repaired
this
year,
because
we've
had
screws
or
nails
in
our
tires
from
driving
the
roads
up
there.
So
it's
just
them.
You
know
and
I've
gone
for
a
walk
and
I
found
a
pile
of
nails
or
screws
laying
in
the
road.
B
Second
one:
second,
there
Tim
when
you
issue
the
when
the
building
permits
and
it
might
be
for
Ken
who's.
Not
here
is
there
a
set
of
standards
that
that
the
property
owner
and
contractor
required
to
uphold
of
any
sort
I
always
look
back
and
go.
Most
of
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
zoning,
but
what
it
does
have
to
do
is
with
how
things
are
done
and
what
kind
of
standards
are
set,
and
we
always
look
back
and
go
well.
Is
there?
Is
there
an
ordinance
in
place?
How
do
you
enforce
it?
B
B
When
you
guys
have
your
next
staff
meeting,
can
you
put
a
note
on
there
and
maybe
visit
about
that
some
something
that
we
can
do
because
I
understand
I
mean
we've
got
you?
Take
a
look
from
the
junior
high
school
to
the
fourteenth
nineteenth
intersection,
that's
20
years
of
development.
It's
nothing
like
it
happens
overnight.
C
Connie
I
really
appreciate
your
comments,
because
that's
so
true
we're
not
working
there,
we're
working
south
of
the
lake
now,
but
we've
tried
to
keep
our
dumpsters
closed
and
I've
talked
to
my
guys.
I
have
walked
out
south,
they
drive
and
picked
up
garbage.
It
seems
like
every
other
day
if
you
don't
keep
them
covered
and
you
get
a
win
like
we
had
yesterday
and
we
have
so
much
plastic
and
cardboard
that
comes
out
with
materials.
Now
get
a
win
like
we
had
yesterday,
you
nearly
empty
that
dumpster,
that's
half
mile.
E
You
know
I'm
gonna
say
with
those
big
piles
of
concrete
or
dirt.
You
can't
moan
so
about
July
in
August,
they're,
full
of
weeds
and
I
guess,
I.
Think
I
heard
so
much
last
year
about
the
I
think
it
was
Watertown
2020
and
the
Beautification
Committee.
This
is
so
counter
to
that.
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
You
know.
B
E
Think
if
you're
gonna
have
a
committee,
that's
working
towards
progress
of
that.
Let's
do
it
in
some
of
these
simple
areas
too
so
and
number
five.
Just
let
me
draw
your
attention.
I
know
if
you've
driven
the
roads
up
there,
if
the
roads
have
been
there
more
than
a
year,
they're,
wavy
and
I,
it
would
be
that
doesn't
seem
the
norm
to
me.
So
that's
beyond
my
control,
beyond
my
knowledge,
I
would.
G
F
Horrible
because
you're
like
that
I
understand
that
one
of
the
things
I
think
we
should
do
is
we
should
really
step
back
in
time,
whereas
you
could
not
put
asphalt
on
top
of
that
road
for
at
least
a
year.
Let
it
sit
there.
Let
it
settle
down,
and
and
after
that,
one
year
of
settling
then
I
think
you
need
to
put
that
top
coat
on.
I
know
we
would
have
gravel
there
for
a
year,
but
it
would
be
beneficial
for
the
city.
It
really
would
for
our
roads,
because
they're
horrible
yeah.
E
It
they
are
bad
up
there
and
it's
it's
lots
of
the
surrounding
roads.
It
seems
like
it
should
be
done
right
from
the
start,
whatever
it
would
probably
save
money.
So
anyway,
a
number
six
and
seven
I
guess
I'm.
Just
gonna
mention
quickly
mowing
again:
I
don't
feel
like
I
feel
like
we
have
ordinances
in
place.
It's
not
my
job
to
police
that
or
call
up
somebody
every
time.
Something
needs
to
be
mowed
and
say:
oh,
these
weeds
are
three
feet
tall
and
when
I
do
I
don't
feel
like
I
should
have.
E
Somebody
call
me
back
and
say
who
owns
that
lot?
Who
should
I
be
calling
it's
not
my
job
and
I?
Don't
I
just
think
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
be
the
policeman
up
there.
I
don't
want
to
be
the
crabby
lady
that
lives
up
there,
reporting
on
things,
I
love
living
up
there
and
I
love
the
neighbors
and
I.
Don't
you
know
number
seven
is
the
same
way.
We
brand-new
house,
it's
built
too
close
to
her
lot
and
I.
E
E
Of
my
concerns,
I
guess
would
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
help
us
out
a
little
bit.
Maybe
some
follow
up
you're,
doing
a
good
job
of
planning
things
and
I'm
glad
the
city
is
progressing
and
I
like
the
neighbors.
There
are
some
simple
things:
just
courtesy
I
think
we
could
maybe
help
people
and
again.
E
F
B
To
find
out
what's
enforceable,
what's
already
on
the
books
and
what
we
don't,
because
some
of
those
areas
and
we're
starting
to
see
the
building
pick
up
again
kind
of
bummer
if
you're
adjacent
to
that
for
20
years.
Okay,
thanks
anyone
else
speak
in
the
open
sea.
None
I'll
close
the
open
ask
from
we're.
Gonna
take
this
in
two
parts.
The
first
part
is
resolution,
2o
15-10,
that's
the
annexation
of
the
property,
just
hashed
out
on
your
diagram
or
grayed
out
on
our
sheet.
C
H
C
Would
say
to
answer
your
question?
First
John,
yes,
I!
Think
that
should
be
included.
I
think
what
was
really
helpful
for
us
was
in
that
area
north
of
14th
Avenue,
when
we
could
see
that
whole
quarter
of
land
that
was
not
annexed
into
the
city
yet
but
yeah,
we
can
see
how
the
roads
and
the
streets
are
going
to
be
laid
in
there.
C
So
it
all
ties
together
and
if
we
could
do
that,
encourage
the
developer
here
to
doesn't
have
to
be
an
extend,
I
think
to
take
a
look
at
what
are
they
going
to
do
with
all
that
area
to
the
east?
But
if
that
could
be
considered
at
some
point
and
I'm,
not
sure
why
the
preliminary
plan
was
pulled
off
the
agenda
today,
but
maybe
that's
what
they're
working
on
right
now,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
I.
C
F
B
F
Very
good
securing
me,
but
I
didn't
want
to
address
what
you
mentioned
with
that
with
the
Mac
estates,
with
the
preliminary
that
was
put
up.
That
was
something
that
Sarah
and
and
Jeff
did
in
the
office
on
their
own.
Just
to
give
you
guys
an
idea
what
could
come
in
the
future?
It's
not
that
those
roads
will
specifically
be
in
that
that
spot.
You
know,
because
the
gentleman
that's
up
there
is
not
a
developer,
he's,
not
a
person,
that's
going
to
be
putting
in
those
homes,
but
just
to
give
you
guys
a
heads
up.
F
B
Next
item
on
the
agenda
is
resolution:
201
5-1
1,
the
zoning
of
the
same
hashed
property,
their
recommendation
as
an
r1
r1
zone.
It
looks
at
this
time
everything
around
it
is
either
r1
or
undeveloped.
I
need
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion.
Make
a
motion
to
approve
motion
by
mr.
Laurence
second
saying
by
mr.
McGuire.
Any
discussion
on
the
zoning.
Seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
2d
was
was
withdrawn.
Any
old
business
Geoff.