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A
Well
good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
and
welcome
to
the
Monday
May,
2nd
2016
city
council
work
session.
At
this
time,
I
will
call
the
meeting
to
order,
and
the
first
thing
on
the
agenda
tonight
and
only
thing
on
the
agenda
tonight
is
the
discussion
on
the
stony
point.
Development
I
will
tell
you
what
I've
kind
of
got
a
goal
for
this
evening.
Just
so,
everybody
is
kind
of
on
the
same
page.
I
would
like
to
see
us
come
to
some
type
of
a
conclusion
on
water,
quantity
and
quality.
A
That's
really
the
goal
that
I
would
like
to
to
see
happen
tonight.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
possible
or
not,
but
that's
that's.
What
we're
going
to
kind
of
shoot
for
and
I
know
that
we've
had
numerous
discussions
with
all
three
engineering
firms
that
Shane's
been
working
with,
and
hopefully
everybody
is
working
together.
I
think
they
have
been
so
Shane
I
want
to
turn
it
over
you
and
and
we'll
get
started.
Okay,
thank.
B
You
mayor
following
the
last
council
meeting
where
we
did
get
the
directive
to
kind
of
see
if
we
could
have
a
meeting
of
the
minds
and
get
things
together.
We
first
requested
that
the
modeling
beery
run
by
Austin
engineering
on
behalf
of
the
developer
kind,
and
they
were
willing
to
do
that
and
we
got
that
information
about
mid
week
last
week
and
then
I
distributed
that
each
of
the
parties
that
were
asked
to
be
part
of
the
review
and
based
on
that.
B
We
set
up
a
telephone
conference
call
on
Friday
and
afternoon,
and
so
we
held
our
meeting
via
the
telephone,
but
all
parties
were
present.
Seh
was
represented,
Austin
engineering,
myself
and
respect
in
our
respective
locations,
but
we
did.
We
did
solidify
a
few
points.
There's
probably
a
few
things
still
left
to
be
answered.
Generally
speaking,
we
did
have
a
couple
of
new
topics:
come
up
and
I've
kind
of
shared
them
with
regard
to
some
emails
that
we
summarizing
our
discussion.
B
So
one
of
the
new
topics
is
what
the
potential
pollutant
set
would
come
off
of
the
residential
properties
would
be
and
how
that
would
be
handled
and
also
there
was
some
discussion
about
and
respect
provided
some
data
as
to
more
information
on
that
ten-year
lake
level,
and
so
that
was
interesting
information.
We
discussed
those
topics
as
well
on
Friday
and
with
that
I
guess,
I'll
I'm.
A
B
Part
of
the
reason
they
don't
have
the
final
plans
and
and
so
forth,
is
because
no
final
decisions
been
made
with
regard
to
whether
we're
having
a
channel
or
don't
have
a
channel
or
or
what
what
even
that
channels
going
to
look
like
until
we
get
through
our
city
process.
So
once
that
happens,
the
plans
and
the
permit
application,
the
404
would
be
submitted
to
the
Corps
and
and
the
404
permit
is
a
multi
governmental
review.
B
So
it
includes
the
Corps
and
the
DNR
and
then
I
think
they
may
reach
out
to
the
game,
fish
and
parks
as
part
of
their
process
or
not.
But
anyway
they
all
weigh
in
on
the
project
and
then
they
would
review
it
and
if
they
saw
fit
to
have
it
go
forward.
What
they
do
is
issue
a
30-day
notice
that
goes
out
to
the
public,
and
then
the
public
has
30
days
to
weigh
in
any
comments
or
pro
or
con
towards
the
project.
B
And
then
the
Corps
uses
that
information
to
weigh
in
on
whether
or
not
they
would
recommend
that
it
go
forward,
then
that
they
do
make
some
predetermination
before
they
issue
the
30-day
notice.
So
in
other
words,
if
they're
already
gonna
shut
it
down
or
make
it
change
or
whatever
they
wouldn't
even
post.
The
30-day
notice
until
they're
about
ready
to
issue
the
permit,
and
then
they
receive
those
comments.
A
What
was
interesting,
Shane
and
just
for
the
rest
of
the
group,
so
you
understand
we've
all
been
kind
of
waiting
around
and
saying.
Well,
you
know
we'd
like
to
hear
what
the
Corps
says
or
we'd
like
to
hear
with
what
the
EPA
says
or
we'd
like
to
hear
what
you
know.
All
these
four
different
entities
and,
frankly
my
understanding
from
them
is
they.
C
A
B
So
with
that
we
did
I
guess
we
had
one
other
conversation.
The
mayor
and
I
did
with
more
of
a
local
representative
of
the
area
fisheries
and
got
some
weigh
in
on
that
and
of
course
he
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
his
mouth
or
whatever,
but
they
did
say
that
there
are
concerns
with
the
fishery,
but
certainly
projects
like
this
have
happened
in
the
past
and
will
again
in
the
future.
B
B
D
D
D
A
This
is
not
a
court
of
law
John,
so
it's
just
a
working
session,
but
I
do
want
to
tell
you
I'm
gonna,
be
short
on
this
seven.
Eight
nine
he's
concerned
that
they
want
to
go
into
that
lake.
They
want
to
kill
the
rushes,
that's
what
was
his
concern
and
and
it's
a
viable
concern,
I
think
so
that's
what
we
heard
right.
A
D
A
E
You
do
have
your
BMP
manual
well
and
in
your
manual
you
state
that
changing
the
natural
drainage
way
locations
will
not
be
approved
unless
such
change
is
shown
to
protect
against
unreasonable
hazard
and
liability.
Substantiated,
thorough
analysis,
Pete
will
show
you
a
thorough
analysis
on
the
water
quality
impacts
to
this
Lake
in
just
a
few
minutes.
Also,
the
general
criteria
seven
includes
that
planning
and
design
of
natural
of
drainage
systems
shall
be
such
that
problems
are
not
transferred
from
one
location
to
another.
Those
are
important
points
again.
E
There
are
tools
that
you
already
have
at
your
disposal
for
considering
these
types
of
developments,
so
as
far
as
a
summary
of
lake
water
quality
in
Lake,
Camp
Eska.
Well,
I,
you
have
very
excessive
nutrients
in
this
Lake,
excessive
nutrients,
very
low
nitrogen
compared
to
phosphorous.
What
that
means
is
that
you
have
conditions
in
this
lake
that
are
very
favorable
to
cyanobacteria
blooms
or
otherwise
called
algae
blooms,
blue-green
algae
blooms.
E
Whenever
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
nitrogen
in
your
water,
but
an
overabundance
of
phosphorous.
Those
kind
of
bacteria
can
actually
fix
nice,
nitrogen
from
the
atmosphere
and
so
there's
a
preferential
tendency
to
get
a
cyanobacteria
and
actually,
in
the
we
received
a
bunch
of
data
from
the
Upper
Big
Sioux
project,
and
you
do
have
on
multiple
occasions,
rather
rather
high
levels
of
cyanobacteria.
The
problem
with
cyanobacteria
is:
it
does
produce
toxins.
E
In
fact,
one
of
the
first
documented
cases
of
of
a
basically
toxins
that
have
resulted
in
environmental
harm
have
was
was
on
Big
Stone
Lake
in
South
Dakota,
where
cattle
were
killed
because
of
cyanobacteria
toxins.
You
do
have
a
rather
low
level
of
suspended
solids
water
quality.
Color
has
been
green
on
several
occasions.
You
have
a
ratio
of
dissolved
to
total
phosphorous
about
ninety
percent,
that
is
extremely
high
and
something
we
would
equate
to
wastewater
effluent
as
far
as
your
ecoregion
standards.
E
What
we
have
here
are
the
temperate
plain
standards
chlorophyll-a,
which
unfortunately,
there
are
no
samples
that
we
could
find
in
the
sampling
record
that
that
gives
us
high
quality
data.
That's
reviewable
for
chlorophyll
a
your
total
phosphorous
is
many
many
times
over
that
which
would
be
a
water
quality
standard,
and
your
total
nitrogen
is
pretty
close
to
that
level.
We
did
can.
E
That's
a
great
question.
Thank
you.
So
much
on
the
the
data
that
we're
talking
about
right
now
is
data
that
was
received
from
the
Upper
Big
Sioux
project
I
did
request
data
from
the
DNR
and
they
they
sent
it
to
me
at
3:10
p.m.
today,
so
I
haven't
been
able
to
put
that
together,
yet
what
I
do
have-
and
this
will
be
shared
with
you
after
is.
We
wrote
up
a
summary
of
all
of
this
information
and
will
be
provided
to
you
a
more
in-depth
analysis.
E
These
are
preliminary
with
studying
lakes
takes
years
and
years
and
years
so
I've
been
trying
to
cram
a
lot
into
a
couple
of
weeks
here.
So
I
would
consider
this
preliminary.
We
have.
We
just
received
the
DNR
data
today,
there's
a
few
other
conversations
that
we
still
need
to
have
with
some
officials.
However,
I
have
also
spoken
to
the
Corps
of
Engineers
I'm,
Harry
Decker,
as
well
as
game
fish
and
parks,
rich
Hansen
and
several
people
at
the
DNR.
So
we
have
been
really
trying
to
learn
more
about
your
lake
and
I.
E
E
E
E
Is
a
tremendous
amount
of
resuspension
of
sediments
in
this
lake
and
I
would
have
to
find
out
exactly
what
that
is.
But
when
you
look
at
there
was
a
diagnostic
feasibility
study
done
in
1994
and
that
was
used
as
the
total
maximum
daily
load
study,
which
is
part
of
the
Clean
Water
Act
requirements,
so
that
data,
the
most
intensive
data
that
was
gathered,
was
from
1994.
E
There's
been
some
data
gathered
since
then,
but
really
not
something
that
I
would
I
would
call
a
any
kind
of
a
sampling
program
that
has
real
rigor
to
it,
and
so
I
would
want
to
look
at
what
the
changes
have
been
in
place
from
1994
to
how
that
lake
is
performing
right
now.
But
the
resuspension
of
sediments.
A
H
E
E
E
Once
the
pollutants
get
into
the
lake,
it
is
basically
a
bathtub,
it
doesn't
leave,
and
so
you
would
find
that
the
resuspension.
This
is
what
we
saw
in
multiple
reports,
resuspension
of
sediment,
which
is
very
heavy,
and
phosphorous
is
going
to
continue
to
churn
throughout
that
system,
and
so
there
has
Ben
in
fact,
there's
a
couple
of
samples
that
we
got
from
the
inlet/outlet
from
the
upper
Big
Sioux
project.
What
we
weren't
able
to
determine
from
the
data
that
we
received
is
which
way
the
water
was
flowing
at
the
time
of
that
sample.
E
It
is
a
bathtub
what
goes
in.
There
typically
stays
in
there
and
resuspension
it's
a
shallow
lake
and
in
and
in
some
ways
that's
the
best
thing
going
for
it,
because
the
wave
action
keeps
the
suspended.
If
that
was
ever,
it
was
a
deeper
lake
and
it
was
too
thermally
stratify
and
you
would
have
areas
the
lake
that
have
zero
oxygen.
You
would
be
creating
a
stew.
K
E
So
we'll
get
to
that
in
just
a
sec.
Pete
will
talk
about
that.
I
just
wanted
to
cover
a
couple
of
more
of
the
ecological
aspects.
So
as
far
as
the
fisheries
I'm
in
one
of
the
studies
they
looked
at,
the
lake
is
referred
to
as
devoid
of
vegetation
there's
very
little
structure
in
that
lake.
It's
it's
pretty
much
a
bowl
and
there
is
been
noted
in
the
game.
Fish
and
parks
surveys,
fish
surveys,
krill
surveys
that
there
is
lack
of
suitable
habitats
for
bluegill,
northern
pike
and
yellow
perch.
E
E
There's
I'm
gonna
just
introduce
it
and
then
people
add
so
trying
to
cover.
The
record
has
been
a
little
bit
interesting
in
1994.
In
that
study
it
was
declared
impaired
right
now.
It
is
listed
as
fully
supporting
of
all
of
the
designated
uses
or
beneficial
uses,
including
drinking
water,
but
the
standard
had
changed
recently
and
Pete
can
talk
about
that.
Yeah.
C
That
it
was
back
in
well
be
prior
to
2005.
There
was
a
particular
particular
method
for
classifying
these
Lakes,
its
trophic
state
index,
and
it
takes
into
account
several
parameters,
including
phosphorus
chlorophyll,
a
which
is
basically
water.
Clarity
in
2005
the
DNR
reviewed
the
standard
and
changed
it.
They
eliminated
consideration
of
phosphorus
in
the
TSI
determination.
So
it's
not
that
the
water
quality
of
the
lake
changes
that
the
standard
changed
and
that's
that's
kind
of
why
it's
no
longer
listed
as
impaired
and
and
julie
has
been
digging
more
into
that
they.
E
Chlorophyll
a
would
be
a
chlorophyll
of
any-any,
typically
in
algae
in
which
would
be
an
indicator
of
poor
water
quality,
the
more
more
chlorophyll
you
have,
the
poor
water
quality.
Now
it
is
very
interesting
to
know
that
cyanobacteria
have
the
least
amount
of
chlorophyll
a
of
any
of
the
other
types
of
algae
in
you
know
it
isn't
an
algae,
it's
bacteria,
but
they're
classified
as
that,
because
it's
got
the
ability
to
it
to
basically
take
sunlight
and
convert
it
into
energy
through
chlorophyll.
E
So
that's
the
new
standard,
but
there's
not
there's
not
really
data
right
now
for
this
lake
that
would
match
up
with
that
and
additionally,
the
data
that
we
have
has
has
seems
seems
odd.
E
So,
as
far
as
the
fisheries
again,
this
is
that
one
area
that
really
you
know
you
see
as
the
habitat
for
those
kinds
of
species.
Fish
are
typically
a
regulator
of
the
ecology
of
a
lake
system,
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
interesting
about
the
information
I
found
is
that
some
of
the
larger
fish
like
walleyes
their
perseverance
fish,
which
means
fish
that
eat
fish.
E
But
in
this
lake,
most
of
those
pacific
fish
are
actually
eating
other
kinds
of
invertebrates,
and
so
it
makes
me
question
what
their
food
sources
are,
or
the
lack
of
ability
to
find
good
food
sources.
So,
as
far
as
that
channel
impacts
by
putting
in
this
channel,
you
essentially
increase
the
number
of
lots
with
lake
access
from
4
to
13,
and
what
that
is
is
it's.
It
really
is
a
great
greatly
increases
the
ecological
footprint
on
that
resource.
E
Then,
if
you
were
just
to
do
a
typical
first
tier
development,
your
extent
essentially
extending
to
second
tier
development,
the
excavation
eliminates
a
portion
of
the
remaining
habitat
of
that
area
and
it
completely
eliminates
one
public
wetland
and
I
want
to
make
sure
folks
understand
that
the
Corps
of
Engineers
has
stated
that
they
do
not
have
that
that
the
wetland
that
isolated
wetland
where
the
channel
goes
through
is
non-jurisdictional.
So
they've
already
said
that
they
don't
have
jurisdiction
over
that.
E
However,
when
I
said
well,
that's
interesting
because,
according
to
the
most
recent
lawsuits
and
statements
about
about
the
404
permits,
if
you
can
substantially
or
if
there's
a
substantial
nexus
between
what
is
thought
to
be
an
isolated
wetland
and
its
adjacent
water
body,
it's
actually
an
adjacent
wetland
which
would
provide
it
to
be
considered
jurisdictional
rather
than
non-jurisdictional
I
mean
there's
I.
Those
are
tricky
things,
but
but
these
share
the
same
aquifer
they're
in
the
same
zone.
They
actually
have
the
same
ordinary
high
water
level
and
they're
less
than
I.
E
Don't
know
a
couple
hundred
feet
away
from
each
other
and
I
said
to
the
gentleman
I
talked
to
today
said.
That
seems
like
maybe
there's
an
argument
there
for
a
substantial
nexus
and
he
said
there
is
a.
There
is
an
argument
for
that.
So
the
other
thing
is
about
the
Corps
of
Engineers.
They
actually
may
not
have
a
unless
they
only
permit
if
there
is
fill
put
into
a
wetland.
So
if
there
is
a
wetland
removed,
it
doesn't
trip
it
a
permit
when
I
talk
to
them
about
that.
Really
they
said
so.
E
E
So
back
to
the
channel,
the
excavation
eliminates
one
public
wetland.
It
is
a
public
wetland.
The
boat
traffic
and
wave
action
can
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
on
the
remaining
wetland,
which
continues
to
get
encroached
on,
and
the
increased
human
disturbance
can
impact
the
reproductive
success
of
fish
and
wildlife
in
that
area
and
that
continued
pressure
really
may
may
do
irreparable
harm
to
that
wetland.
This
is
the
wetland
map
up
here.
This
is
the
public
waters
protected
wetlands,
and
so
it
is
part
of
the
public
wetland
inventory
in
the
state.
E
A
Wetlands
I
have
a
quick
question
for
you
and
I
apologize
for
jumping
in
here,
but
there
was
a
comment
you
just
made
it
may.
It
may
interfere
with
the
wetlands
and
what
was
interesting
is
in
our
BMP
manual.
It
uses
the
word
may,
but
yet
then
we
were
criticized
because
that
almost
gives
wiggle
room
in
that.
So
where
do
we
go
on
that
I
mean?
Is
it
a
yes,
that's
going
to
impact
it,
or
is
it
not
going
to
impact
it?
This
is
what
because
the
word
may
was
using
Shane.
E
I,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
completely
understand
we
talked
about
this
before
and
that
I
have
to
also
be
very
careful
in
my
choice
of
words,
because
I
can't
say
that
if
everybody
did
everything
right
that
there
wouldn't
be
an
impact
with
that
meant
if
it
was
completely
to
be
fenced
off
that
there
was
no
boat
impact,
that
there
was
never
a
wave
that
touched
it.
E
A
B
I
mean
the
the
developer
and
their
engineer
have
hired
a
mitigation
expert
and
they
think
they
can
successfully
mitigate
the
the
wetlands.
That
would
be
disturbed
and
I
mean
that's
been
a
long-standing
practice.
I
guess
whether
you
want
to
argue
semantics
that
the
newly
created
wetlands
is
is
equal
to
the
disturbed
wetlands
or
not
that
we
could
probably
debate
that
in
another
20
work
sessions,
but.
M
Has
he
indicated
in
any
way
the
location
of
that
mitigation?
I
mean
how
far
I've
did
a
little
research
today
I'm
looking
at
you
know
the
waterways
of
the
meanders,
the
wetlands,
all
those
kind
of
things
did
he
indicate
in
any
way
where
he
thought
the
mitigation
of
the
weapon
and
made
the
most
sense
I'm.
F
Okay,
Julie
I
got
a
question
okay,
so
this
is
a
it's
a
public
wetland,
but
it's
non-jurisdictional,
so
the
city
has
the
jurisdiction
on
that.
So
being
a
public
wetland
for
it
to
be
in
this
case
removed
is
that
this
is
the
piece
of
ground
that
we're
talking
about.
That
was
to
be
mitigated.
It
wasn't
any
part
of
the
channel
area
that
okay,
okay,.
B
F
E
E
E
To
the
Corps
of
Engineers
and
how
section
404
of
the
Clean
Water
Act
works,
the
the
Corps
of
Engineers
has
stated
they
do
not
have
jurisdiction
over
that
again.
I
believe
that
could
be
debated
because
there
is
is
a
substantial
nexus
between
it.
However,
it
doesn't
mean
that
it's
not
a
public
water
or
a
public
wetland.
It
is
under
the
under
the
inventory
public
wetland
inventory.
It
is
a
public
wetland.
It
is
in
this
jurisdiction,
it
is
a
public
resource.
E
It
doesn't
mean
that
the
core
and
granted
I
come
from
a
state
where
we're
we're
a
little
we're
a
little
zealots
about
our
wetlands.
We
have
our
own
wetland
conservation
act
and
everything
has
to
be
mitigated
and
even
under
the
law
of
the
Clean
Water
Act
for
any
kind
of
wetland,
you
still
need
to
minimize
or
avoid
so.
This
is
under.
This
is
a
public
wetland
under
the
public
wetland
inventory.
Okay,.
E
E
Again,
the
Corps
deems
it
non-jurisdictional,
which
means
they
do
not
have
to
go
through
the
permitting
on
it,
but
the
Corps
only
permits
placement
to
fill
so
even
if
they
didn't
they
deemed
it
non-jurisdictional,
even
if
they
did
Thema
jurisdictional,
you
removed
it,
they
wouldn't
permit
it,
because
it's
it's
wouldn't
be
placing
fill.
It
would
be
eliminating
it.
So
it's
the
city's.
It's
really
in
the
city's.
E
Guidance
in
order
to
protect
those
public
wetlands,
we
looked
at
some
historical
area,
photography.
We
hear
that
these
were
crappie
ponds
or
etc.
We
know
that
they've
existed
for
at
least
sixty
years
whenever
they
were
created,
which
means
they
have
actually
become
part
of
that
ecology.
You
can
see
these
ponds
here
and
here,
and
this
was
in
1952
prior
to
the
other
channel
going
in
in
1994.
You
can
see
that
they
still
exist
and
then
whoops,
so
so
they
they
are
there.
E
C
We've
talked
about
the
changes
in
drainage
area
from
the
site
what's
draining
internally
right
now,
and
then
what
will
be
you
know
drained
to
the
lake
and
how
that
well,
ultimately,
after
it's
developed
how
that
changes,
the
pollutant
loading
from
the
site
as
is
or
pre,
development
to
tear
for
the
development
is
in
place.
So
up
here,
I've
got
a
map,
it's
a
it's,
a
delineation
of
different
areas
on
the
site,
and
this
is
based
on
the
survey
that
Austin
provided
that
we
received
back
in
November,
and
it
shows
what
I'm
trying
to
show
is.
C
The
green
areas
are
draining
draining
internally
and
I,
keep
throwing
different
words
around,
but
let's
call
them
contained
basins
they
they're
contained.
So
this
is
like
the
crappie
pond
here
after
you
see
that
area,
that's
one
contained
Basin,
a
small
one
here,
there's
this
large
contained
Basin
to
the
south
and
Austin
identified
that
this
area
was
draining
to
a
contain
base
and
off
site.
A
C
All
right
so,
in
order
to
to
run
through
this
analysis,
I'd
to
make
some
assumptions
about
how
things
are
draining
and
back
in
November,
we
showed
the
potential
for,
for
those
contain
basins
to
hold
up
to
a
100
year.
Event
I
wanted
to
back
off
of
that
and
consider
them
retaining
holding
up
to
a
10
year
event
on
site
and
then
I'm,
assuming
that
that
any
rainfall
above
the
10
year
event
will
go
through
those
ponds
and
discharge
to
the
lake
and
those
that
would
be
treated
anything
above
the
hundred-year
would
not
be
treated
post-development.
C
C
Looking
at
the
the
water
quality
BMPs
they're,
providing
it
are
called
extended,
detention
basins,
basically
they're
dry.
Until
a
storm
happens,
they
fill
up
and
and
then
they
will
drain
out
that
the
water
quality
capture
volume,
which
is
about
a
six
tenths
inch
of
rain
event,
they'll
drain
that
out
over
forty
hours
and
so
their
their
main
method
of
removing
pollutants
is
through
settling.
C
So
I'm
assuming
that
you
know
up
to
the
water
quality
cop
capture
volume
through
that
that's
being
treated
like
by
the
e
d
B's
and
then
assuming
that
detention
storage,
as
as
its
as
is
planned,
really
there's
very
little
attenuation
very
slow,
not
much
slowing
of
that
water
through
there.
So
there's
not
much
time
provided
for
settling
pollutants
and
ultimately
the
removal
will
be
negligible.
Peter.
C
C
This
information,
it's
the
average
concentration
of
stormwater
runoff
and
these
values
were
reported
by
the
EPA
and
a
report.
They
put
out
and
they
they
provided
data
for
undeveloped
and
for
residential
I,
used
undeveloped
for
pre,
developed
conditions
and
and
residential
for
the
post
about
on
conditions.
You
can
see
the
difference,
so
these
are
concentrations
of
pollutants.
Tss
is
suspended,
sediment
working
at
seventy
verses,
a
hundred
milligrams
per
liter
and
total
phosphorous.
C
A
C
It's
in
line
with
the
EPA
has
similar
data.
It's
right
in
line.
It's
noteworthy
I
couldn't
get
data
for
the
extended
detention
basins
from
the
Minnesota
Pollution
Control
Agency,
because
they
don't
recognize
them
as
a
water
quality
BMP,
because,
because
of
the
potential
for
resuspension
of
sediment,
try
to
go
to
a
different
source
for
that
and
and
use
that
instead
and
you
can
see
what
those
reduction
values
are
here.
C
So
after
I've
routed
and
the
rainfall
over
the
land
and
I've
got
volumes,
I
apply
the
concentrations
and
I've
reduced
them.
These
are
the
changes
in
sediment
and
phosphorous
on
an
average
seasonal
basis,
April
through
October.
From
that
analysis,
the
the
sediment
and
we're
looking
at
378
pounds
up
to
two
thousand
two
hundred
thirteen
and
that's
an
increase
of
four
hundred.
Ninety
percent.
The
phosphorous
goes
from
zero
point:
seven
pounds
to
eleven
point:
seven,
an
increase
of
one
thousand
six
hundred.
Seventy
percent-
that
this
is
this
is
definitely
unique
to
this
development
in
that
they're.
G
C
Talking
I'm
talking
with
the
channel
I'm,
comparing
existing
conditions
to
as
proposed
with
the
channel
and
I'm
glad
you
asked
that
question
because
my
next
point
is:
why
is
this
significant
we
had
talked
earlier
or
the
last
meeting
about
the
the
future
development
in
the
drainage
area
of
the
lake
and
I
know
you,
mr.
Danforth
you'd,
ask
specifically
about
what
that
is.
C
This
is
what
I'm
talking
about
this
is
the
the
area
that
drains
directly
to
the
lake
that
that,
looking
ahead,
whether
it's
ten
50
years
down,
the
road
could
be
developed,
and-
and
we
see
you
know
this-
this
development
with
this
standards
we've
got.
This
is
really
setting
the
precedent
for
that
for
any
future
development.
E
E
The
stony
point
third
edition
increases
pollutant
loading
to
the
lake
as
the
thorough
analysis
that
Pete
just
completed
impacts
existing
natural
resources,
including
wetlands,
even
though
they
may
not
be
jurisdictional
in
the
Corps
of
Engineers
perspective,
potentially
impacts
fisheries
through
wetland
impacts
and
increased
human
disturbance.
You
do
have
existing
policies
that
provide
for
greater
oversight
of
these
resources
and
additional
protection
measures
are
needed
to
reduce
the
impacts
to
the
lake
and
the
adjacent
resources,
including
the
existing
wetlands.
A
I
E
As
far
as
my
experience
in
Minnesota,
which
is
mostly
in
the
entire
central
area
of
the
state
as
well
as
I,
was
assistant
director
of
the
board
of
water
and
soil
resources,
which
regulated
all
wetlands
in
the
state,
I'm
not
familiar
with
a
lot
of
excavation
going
into
create
new
channels
to
existing
lake
structures.
I
am
aware
of
dredging
existing
channels
provide
for
navigation,
but
as
far
as
my
recent
memory,
I'm
not
familiar
with
creating,
in
fact
I
would
say
that
that
I'm
aware
that
it
has
not
happened.
To
my
experience.
A
O
Good
evening,
everyone
I'm
Bob's
attorney
from
Aberdeen
I'm,
just
new
to
this
case,
and
basically
I
was
really
surprised
by
the
presentation
tonight,
because
you
know
we're.
We
have
no
preparation
for
addressing
the
issues
that
they
brought
up
here
in
this
and
I've
seen
I
think
two
reports
from
respec
and
none
of
it
addresses
pollution
that
I've
seen
water
quality.
O
The
fisheries
issue
that
they
raised
this
evening
and
on
the
evening
of
the
vote
the
evening
before
you
folks,
are
going
to
vote
on
the
Planning
Commission's
recommendation.
We
get
this
thrown
into
our
laps.
I
would
say
this
to
mr.
mayor
that
that
you
know
your
own
staff
has
indicated
that
this
isn't
your
function,
that
there
really
is
not,
in
your
plan,
your
your
your
ordinances,
the
criteria
that
allows
you
to
evaluate
this
material
and
to
turn
down
this
project.
O
I
think
your
your
function
is
is
much
more
narrow
than
to
look
at
stuff
that
really
a
GFP
would
look
at
or
that
the
Corps
would
look
at
or
dn
and
IR
would
look
at
to
see
the
reason.
The
effect
on
fisheries
and
the
effect
on
pollution
and
and
analyze
all
those
extensive
issues,
that's,
in
my
opinion,
not
your
function
and.
A
P
A
Right
so
I
guess
my
question.
Rod
to
you,
you
know
you've
been
working
on
this
thing
for
two
years
and
I
know
that
you're
you're,
talking
about
change
in
the
height
of
the
of
the
the
holding
ponds,
am
I
correct
in
that
I.
Think
that
was
one
of
your
discussions
through
SCH
and
you
guys
and
respect
that
that
it
wasn't
at
the
at
the
low
side
of
the
help
me
on
this
one
Shane.
What
am
I
looking
for
the
tenure
or
the
the
high-water
mark?
Okay,.
B
B
Believe
we
made
great
strides
tour,
then
I
would
I
guess
I'd
have
to
ask
respect
if
they
agreed
completely
with
das
and
remodel
the
the
opening
part
of
our
conversation.
Last
Friday
was
that
they
were
much
impressed
with
the
new
models
that
were
provided
by
us
and
know.
There
were
still
some
minor
questions
as
far
as
the
C
values,
and
we
discussed
that
a
little
bit
at
the
last
work
session,
whether
or
not
that
needs
to
be
tweaked
a
little
bit
or
not.
Is
a
minor
discussion
in
this.
H
Excuse
me
thanks
rod,
young
with
Austin
engineering,
sorry
about
that.
Anyway,
there
was
discussion
last
Friday
about
you.
He
presented
the
chart
to
where.
If
we
raised
about
bottom
pond
elevations
on,
there
was
like
four
ponds
that
were
affected:
approximately
one
foot
to
get
above
a
recurrence
interval
and
in
visiting
with
the
owners
eye
development.
You
know
it
was
easy
to
accommodate
that
kind
of
a
thing.
The.
H
Minor
adjustments
in
a
volume
of
the
size,
but
it's
it
can
be
done
within
the
and
where
they're
located
at
and
by
raising,
though
the
pond
elevations
a
little
bit.
Basically
it
just
everything
goes
up
just
a
hair,
because
we've
got
plenty
of
material
to
work
with
to
do
that
with
so
he
really
didn't
change
the
size
of
em
for
effective
ponds.
The
other
remaining
ponds
were
well
above
that
elevation
so
and
far
as
tweaking
are.
As
far
as
for
the
determining
runoff
volumes
is,
we
can
tweak
that
too,
as
well
right.
F
Are
you
in
agreement
that
the
planned
ponds
that
you're
referring
to
will
hold
only
up
to
six
tenths
of
an
inch
rain?
If
that,
if
I'm
reading
the
the
previous
tube
that
after
the
six
tenths,
then
the
water
would
go
directly
into
the
lake
versus
being
retained,
that's
apparently
the
point
at
which
that.
H
That's
not
the
quite
the
right
interpretation
of
that
is
that
when
you
designed
a
pond,
you
do
it
what
we
call
the
routing
method,
what
I
mean
by
that
is.
First
of
all,
you
designed
a
ponds
to
hold
the
water
quality
volumes
plus
20%,
then,
over
and
above
that,
you
designed
the
ponds
to
hold
the
hundred
year
event,
but
got
to
keep
in
mind
to
when
the
water
runs
in.
H
C
C
The
water
quality
BMP,
the
water
quality
pond
is
smaller
and
it's
actually
inside
contained
within
the
detention
within
the
same
pond.
That
provides
detention.
So
it's
the
smaller
area
in
the
bottom
of
the
pond.
That's
that's
designed
to
hold
that
6/10
for
a
long
time
and
anything
above
that
is
then
routed
and
controlled
within
that
same
structure,
but
that's
where
it's
it's
more
about
detention
and
getting
those
those
peaks
back
down
to
peak
or
two
pre-development,
so
anything
above
that
water
quality
treatment
above
this
extends
is
not
intended
for
water
quality
treatment.
F
A
I
think
you've
got
us
a
right
over
the
top
of
all
our
heads
on
this
one,
because
it's
way
to
six
tenths
and
inches
on
a
two
year
reign
or
under
your
reign,
where
we
at
I
mean
I
really
want
to
kind
of
get
down
in
the
nuts
and
bolts
where
we
at
on
water-retention.
Did
you
guys
come
to
an
agreement
on?
We
can
hold
the
water
back.
A
C
C
Yeah,
like
what
said
I
mean
Austin
came
back:
they
they
redid
their
routing,
which
was
was
great
I
like
that.
We
we
still
dissented
on
on
how
they
were
representing
pre-development
conditions
and
post-development
conditions
and
and
I
guess.
No
conclusion
came
from
that.
We
did
have
that
great
discussion
about
the
levels
of
the
pond.
H
Well,
it
was
kind
unclear
between
what
should
we
use
there.
You
put
indicated
a
very
high
number
for
the
runoff
on
a
commercial
development
where
we
had
a
lower
number
in
that,
because
we
felt
that
that
area
was
not
going
to
be
something
like
County
Fair
parking
lot.
It
was
going
to
be
somewhere
in
between
that
you
know
so
I
mean
we
can
tweak
that
to
the
and.
B
I,
yes,
my
conclusion
on
Friday
was
that
we
were
getting
very
close
to
that
and
I
guess.
I
I'd
probably
have
rocky
as
my
closest
representative.
Can
it
kind
of
waiting
on
that
too,
and
maybe
we
get
all
three
of
them
to
sit
there
beside
each
other
but
anyway,
so?
Yes,
we
could
make
some
minor
tweaks
in
that
review
of
the
runoff
coefficients.
That's
minor,
the
essentially
we
we
all
agreed
that
the
new
modelling
was
much
better
representation
as
how
the
water
flows
into
and
out
of
the
ponds.
Is
that
correct,
rocky.
N
Look
at
this
and
unfortunately,
hydrology
is
not
like
building
a
bridge.
It's
not
an
exact
science.
There's
a
lot
of
assumptions
that
go
into
what
we
do
and
you
can
kind
of
in
the
conversations
I
think
you've
all
kind
of
heard
that
and
the
discussion
on
Friday
was
about
assumptions
that
go
into
a
model.
There
are
obviously
some
discrepancies
and
fine-tuning
those
things.
N
Ultimately,
the
city
has
to
make
that
decision,
and
we
kind
of
saw
the
the
item
that
says
you
don't
really
have
the
decision
of
which
way
you
want
to
go
and
I
was
kind
of.
My
impression
was
that
that's
where
was
left
and
Shane
would
say:
I'm,
okay
with
it
or
whatever
the
I
think
we
were
really
close
on
the
water
quantity.
D
N
Far
as
the
water
quality,
the
design
I
did
not
see
what's
at
fault,
that
was
the
6/10
age,
the
40-hour
drawdown,
but
I
think
if
that
was
the
standard
that
is
in
the
cities,
be
in
peace.
What
came
up
that
meeting
was
this
whole?
The
phosphorus
discussion
and
obviously
the
like,
is
high
in
phosphorus
and
whatever
reason.
Historically,
it
came
from
whether
it
was
agriculture
subject
to
systems
wastewater
yard,
waste
on
and
on
and
on
it's
high
in
phosphorus,
and
therefore,
obviously
any
new
development
have
to
address
that.
N
The
question
then
becomes
is
whether
the
BMP
manuals
address
the
phosphorus
so
to
what
level
is
required.
Now
the
BMP
is
most
addressed.
The
requirements
for
total
suspended
solids
and
phosphorus.
That's
the
city
guidelines
you
build
it.
It
should
address
those
under
all
conditions.
Doctor
go
above
and
beyond
what
the
intent
of
that
BMP
manye
was
because
it's
a
unique
resource.
That's
a
little
bit
different
discussion
now
and
can
listen
to
see.
If
that
one.
L
N
N
Years
and
Shane
work,
there's
we
kind
of
gone
through
this
I
think
we
could
say
it's
a
lot
of.
Is
you
know
your
yard
clippings?
If
you
let
them
dump
them
in
the
leg,
leaves
animal
waste
is
the
other
one
and
the
big
one
that
everyone
picks
on
is
phosphorus
fertiliser.
Is
that
middle
number,
when
you
go
to
LA
to
do
fertilizer
and
obviously
Wisconsin
Minnesota
has
banned
phosphorus
fertilizers
because
obviously
we
can
put
down
yarn.
It
goes
right
into
the
lake,
so.
N
You
can
do
to
mitigate
beyond
potentially
the
numbers
that
were
presented
so
I
kind
of
that
was
my
take
on
and
I
shared
a
little
bit
information
Shayne
on
that
when
I
heard
the
phosphorous
is,
can
you
mitigate
that
phosphorus?
From
that
perspective
with
this
and
as
the
drainage
map
came
up,
there's
a
lot
of
phosphorus
sources,
potentially
around
this
lake
I.
Think
besides
this
25
acres,
so
I
think
bottom
line
is
have
been
doing
this
for
30
years
and
in
Canada.
The
reality
of
my
business
is
there's
a
lot.
You
can
look
at.
N
Perspective
is
and
I'm
going
to
pick
a
little
bit
on
the
developers
that
developers
are
gonna
want
it
skewed
towards
their
advantage,
which
is
basically
you
get
as
much
existing
runoff
as
they
can
so
when
they
build
their
ponds,
errs
as
small
as
again.
On
the
other
hand,
if
you're
looking
at
trying
to
go
the
other
way,
you
make
the
discussion
on
the.
I
L
I
N
High
force,
runoff
thing
and
I
did
not
see
where
that
really
is
addressed
in
a
the
BMPs
I
did
the
city
is
under
an
MS
4
program
and
there's
an
education
component
to
that,
and
if
you
guys
look
in
your
guidelines
for
education,
one
of
the
items
is
watch
how
much
fertilizer
you
put
on
your
yards.
That
is
one
of
the
items
for
best
management
practices
which
indirectly
it.
N
Banned
phosphorus,
but
it
does
address
that
it
does
address
a
lot
of
the
phosphorus
load.
Things
already
as
part
of
an
education
process
for
your
community,
so
I
guess
part
of
it
could
be
uses
as
an
education
process
for
the
residents
around
the
lake
and
say:
hey
phosphorus
is
bad
news
and
think
about
that.
When
you're
doing
your
yard,
waste
I
was.
A
R
We'll
have
a
homeowner's
association,
I
thought
it
was
already
banned
around
the
lake
because
we
don't
I
know
we
don't
use
any
phosphorus
fertilizers.
You
know
on
our
site,
but
we
can
shrimp
with
that
in
there
that's
no
big
deal.
You
know
it's
hard
to
even
find
phosphorus
fertilizer
as
far
as
like
Scott's
and
that
type
of
thing
anyway,
so.
A
Perfect,
you
guys
got
some
questions
for
Bob
I
mean
since
you
got
him
here.
We've
had
respect
up
here.
We
have
SCH
up
here.
We've
we've
got
Austin
engineering
up
here.
I
really
think
we
did
just
check
mark
off
the
the
quantity
I
would
like
to
find
out
if
we
are
close
to
checking
off
the
quality
on
this
on
this
particular
instance.
And
what
are
you
guys
thinking
well.
C
Would
say
yes,
if
my
recommendations
about
how
pre
development
of
post
development
was
represented
for
the
runoff
is
done.
I
would
say
yes
and
we
have
great
discussion
about
that.
They,
they
know
what
I'm,
what
I'm
asking
for
it's
within
the
guidelines
of
the
manual.
So
with
that
I
would
say.
Yes
if
they
can
do
that.
Okay,.
F
I'm
asked
you
a
question
on
that.
This
is
quantity,
so
my
question
to
you
is:
are
if
I
take
your
what
you're,
requesting
or
requiring
and
I
take?
What
awesome
did
are
both
of
those
level
within
the
parameters
that
wood
could
be
used
in
the
calculations
of
these,
the
the
water
wives
or
is
somebody
outside
of
that?
It's.
C
Within
interpretation,
I
would
say,
I
would
say
both
might
be
within
interpretation
because,
as
far
as
pre-development
conditions
go,
the
the
man
uses
the
word
pre-development
existing
historic,
natural
and
I
would
say
as
far
as
land
cover
goes,
I
would
want
to
look
at
natural.
The
the
BMP
manual
when
they're
I
won't
get
into
those
details.
I
would
say
say
natural.
What
was
going
on
was
awesome
was
representing
some
existing
development
in
their
pre
development
calculations
and
and
that's
what
I
didn't
like
so.
Q
B
A
B
Don't
get
absolute
rule,
but
I
can
present
to
the
council
a
recommendation
that
you
can.
You
can
accept
something
that
doesn't
meet
every
letter
of
an
ordinance
and
then
I
think
the
BMP
manual
allows
some
flexibility
in
that
Lots,
rocky's,
research
and
recommendation
is
that
we
do
have
if
it
seems
to
make
sense
in
it.
But
if
it
was
something
some
item
in
there
that
just
didn't
quite
get
covered,
you
have
the
right
to
accept
a
project
with
just
slight
variations
and
I
I.
B
Don't
want
to
put
words
in
any
way
smalls,
but
I
mean
I.
Think
that
that
likely
has
happened
sometime
in
the
history
of
this
BMP
manual,
but
I
would
say
that
I'm
real
comfortable
calling
it
very
close,
maybe
I,
would
ask
Austin
to
tweak
a
few
things.
But
if,
if
that's
the
he's
already
agreed
that
they
can
probably
raise
those
ponds
up
above
the
lake
levels
as
respect
answers,
that's
a
big
step
since
Friday
Friday.
That
was
a
big
big
issue
and
I
think
we're
we're
essentially
past
this
part
of
the
discussion.
Q
C
A
Right
but
I
would
have
to
say:
quantity
was
a
huge
issue
in
our
last
meeting,
because
the
ponds
weren't
big
enough
or
the
ponds
were,
you
know,
has
a
different
level
that
they
should
be.
It
was
that
was
pretty
pretty
well
told
to
us
that
we
need
to
have
quantity
and
quality.
That's
what
I
I
heard
that
right.
A
C
B
B
B
C
C
It's
not
it's
not
getting
a
high
level
of
treatment
to
bring
it
back
to
what
would
be
existing
condition.
It's
sort
it's
increased
so
far
above.
What's
it
currently
draining
currently
being
discharged
to
the
lake?
It's
it's!
The
increase
in
volume.
That's
that's
normal
to
development,
plus
the
drainage
areas
changed
that
increases
that
volume
to
Lake,
but
it's
the
concentrations
of
pollutants
in
those
volumes
that
are
the
issue.
F
The
water
ultimately
channel
mineral
channel,
then
the
same
amount
of
water,
is
going
to
come
down
and
go
incorrect
into
the
lake
at
some
point,
with
the
existing
with
the
existing
or
the
planned
retention
areas.
Right,
it's
at
some
point.
It's
going
to
get
into
the
lake
all
this
water.
It's
got
to
go
somewhere,
sir
right.
That's.
C
F
F
I
F
C
Okay,
why
not
because
it's
you
gotta,
look
at
an
average
average
annual
average
seasonal
loading
basis
and
and
that's
what
I
presented
at
the
end
was
average
seasonal
basis
is
so
much
different.
It's
so
specific
to
any
specific
event
is
how
much
goes
all
goes
out
would
be
released
from
the
existing
ponds
and
and
where
the
water
level
is
at
before
it
rains.
Really,
it
can
get
you
get
into
a
complicated
analysis
of
a
water
water
balance
with
with
one
of
those
ponds,
but
but
basically
yeah.
C
C
M
The
water
and
how
long
it
stays
there,
how
it
is
removed
from
pollutants
I
removed
from
it
back
into
the
water.
So
what
you're
saying
is
that,
right
now,
if
it
goes
into
those
pre
development
ponds
or
existing
holes,
it
takes
it
has
enough
time
to
filter
itself
or
do
whatever
things
it's
going
to
do.
M
If
we
build
on
of
that
or
around
it
or
in
change
that
pre-development
I'm
just
going
to
call
it
a
hole,
hole
in
the
ground,
now
we're
talking
about
holding
the
pollutants
in
longer
and
then
there's
more
water,
poor
water
quality
going
into
the
lake
with
when
the
quantity
rises.
Am
I
summarizing
that
I
think.
R
A
R
If
we
look
at
this
now
we're
talking
about
a
twenty
thousand
acre
thing
and
I'm
sure
when
they
did
their
calculations,
they
use
just
judging
from
all
the
other
calculations,
the
most
possible
largest
amount
of
phosphorus
that
this
could
dump.
If
I
look
at
that
and
I
look
at
how
much
we're
talking
about
right
here,.
R
R
A
A
F
E
A
F
E
I
I'm
not
against
development
I'm,
not
against
anything
like
that.
I
think
what
needs
to
be
done-
and
this
isn't
the
recommendations
you'll
see-
is
that
you
do
have
multiple
tools
at
your
disposal,
including
you
already
have
overlay
districts
for
the
aquifer.
You
have
overlay
districts
for
various
things
like
that
and
in
for
for
this
particular
resource,
it
may
be
that
the
city
continued
it
considers
actually
having
some
standards
for
protecting
this.
This
resource,
you
have
Gateway
districts
with
with
very
amount,
meaning
extraordinary
detail
in
length
in
your
zoning
ordinances.
B
A
majority
of
the
current
city,
development
and
stormwater
structures
either
entered
the
Big
Sioux
River
directly
Robie
Creek
Willow
Creek
are
the
primary
three
drainage
basins
within
the
proper
portion
of
the
city.
You
know,
obviously,
the
this
lake
district,
you
know
everything
from
say:
derby,
downs
down
towards
the
lake
has
some
propensity
to
drain
the
lake,
but
it's
all
in
all
reality.
B
N
Texts
for
the
best
management
practice
city
standards,
so
adding
new
standards
was
not
part
of
my
direction.
So,
as
my
professional
opinion
is
that
the
if
we
go
totally
by
the
standards,
the
city
standards
with
some
discretion
on
the
city's
part,
to
do
something,
this
development
would
meet
those
standards.
Now,
if,
in
the
future,
you
want
to
change
some
standards
for
specific
issues,
design
standards,
that's
up
to
the
city
and
I-
think
Shane.
We're
gonna.
Have
that
conversation?
N
O
O
N
B
The
new
information
on
those
minor
tweaks
and
I'm
I'm
with
rocky
I
think
that
once
we
reach
that
plateau,
at
least
from
a
water
quality
and
quantity
standpoint,
we've
met
the
standard
that
we've
set
for
any
other
development
in
the
in
the
community.
That
we've
been
currently
administrating
and
reviewing.
I
won't
say
that
the
lake
environment
isn't
unique,
but
I
don't
think
we're
equipped
to
necessarily
raise
the
bar
as
high
high
as
the
lake
comp
Eska
group,
and
there
engineer
are
requesting
or
suggesting-
maybe
maybe
it's
a
better
word
and
I
just
don't
know.
A
L
All
things
that
happen
here
affect
God
I,
had
the
opportunity
to
be
with
a
beautiful
lady
today
who
was
born
and
raised
here
and
who
left
and
came
back
and
what
she
come
back
to
was
the
people
that
she
knew
and
loved.
So
I
just
ask
that
as
you
make
decisions
for
this
community
and
that
you
realize
that
it
affects
everybody
and
that
you
take
the
wisdom
from
above
and
the
wisdom
from
others
and
do
what
you
can
with
it
to
make
the
best
possible
decisions.
L
I
I
T
A
J
I
can
I
ask
one
more
question
out
of
ignorance,
cuz
I'm
still
new
to
this
group.
We've
got
four
or
five
different
beverage
license
that
word
that
we're
working
on
separately
in
four
through
eight
and
they'd
had
violations
in
the
past,
but
yet
those
same
ones
are
still
on.
The
consent
agenda
is,
is
that
correct
I
mean,
should
they
be
on
the
consent
agenda?
Well,.
A
M
A
K
K
A
A
By
glenn
ii
by
bill,
any
questions
on
that
hearing,
none
I'll,
look
for
counsel
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
three
information
on
the
Watertown
initiative
to
prevent
sex
trafficking,
grant
and
awareness
efforts,
hi
welcome
and
thanks
for
being
in
here
and
then
what
we,
what
we
did
guys.
We
had
kind
of
talked
about
having
her
on
the
work
session,
but
we
knew
that
was
going
to
get
kind
of
lengthy.
So
the
floor
is
yours.
If
you
will.
A
V
All
right,
my
name
is
Jenna
Moffett
and
I
am
previously
a
Comus.
I
grew
up
here
in
Watertown,
I
graduated
in
2006
from
the
high
school
and
I
am
glad
to
be
back
here
in
Watertown.
I
am
the
outreach
specialist
for
our
Watertown
initiative
to
prevent
sex
trafficking.
It
is
a
newer
initiative.
We
started
officially
in
September
of
2015
and
so
we're
about
seven
months
in
and
it
is
a
ministry
of
Mother
of
God
monastery
and
we
are
grant
funded
through
a
grant
from
Catholic
Health
Initiatives
and
they
have
a
initiative
to
prevent
violence.
V
It
is
a
violence
prevention
fund
that
they
give
out
grants
all
over
the
country
to
prevent
violence
and-
and
that's
something
that
is
very
dear
to
my
heart,
because
my
Master's
is
in
public
health,
and
so
we
are
very
big
on
prevention
and
prevention
of
disease
prevention
of
sickness
and
then
prevention
of
violence
as
well,
and
that's
something
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize.
That
is,
is
that
violence
is
preventable
and
so
I'm.
Inspired
by
this
lower
right
hand,
painting
that
says
violence
is
preventable,
not
inevitable.
V
So
that's
something
that
we
really
are
striving
for
with
our
initiative
is
to
prevent
acts
of
violence
from
happening
and
specifically
sex
trafficking,
but
we
are
definitely
hoping
to
create
a
healthier
place
in
where
our
town,
overall,
that's
very
dear
to
my
heart
and
I'm-
very
passionate
about
it.
Yes,
is.
V
Lower
right-hand
corner
it
says,
violence
is
preventable
and
not
inevitable,
and
I
was
saying
that
was
geared
to
my
art.
I
have
two
daughters
here
in
town,
one
is
almost
three
and
one
is
almost
one,
and
so
I
am
hoping
that
we
can
have
a
community
and
a
safe,
safe
city
in
which
they
can
grow
up
in
and
that
sex
yukine
really
isn't
even
on
the
radar
for
them.
So
if
we
continue
on.
V
So
we're
evaluating
ourselves
based
on
how
many
people
we
reached,
how
many
presentations
we've
done
and
if
we
hopefully
will
see
a
response
and
a
positive
sense
so
once
before
we
go
on,
I
definitely
want
to
touch
base
on
what
sex
trafficking
is.
It
is
a
horrendous
crime.
It
is
modern-day
slavery
right
now
there,
just
if
we
hear
the
word
slavery.
V
We
think
of
you
know
before
when
it
was
legal
in
our
country
the,
but
the
reality
is
there
almost,
and
this
is
a
lower
estimate,
21
million
slaves
today
around
the
globe
and
that's
double
the
amount
of
slaves
that
there
were
during
the
entire
350
years
of
the
transatlantic
slave
trade.
So
slavery
is
very
real
and
it
impacts
globally.
It
impacts
the
United
States,
but
it
it
definitely
has
impacted
South,
Dakota
and
own
community.
V
It
is
so
sex.
Trafficking
itself
is
when
force
fraud
or
coercion
are
used
to
exploit
someone
for
means
of
commercial
sex,
and
that
includes
prostitution,
but
it
also
includes
pornography
or
another
type
of
sex
act,
and
when
those
are
given
a
any
type
of
value,
so
money
doesn't
have
to
necessarily
be
exchanged.
It
could
be
a
six-pack
of
beer
and
that's
something.
V
We
hopefully
you
know,
do
not
have
many
cases.
We
don't
have
many
in
the
media.
I
know:
Sioux
Falls
has
many
more
in
the
media,
but,
given
my
position,
I've,
you
know
started
to
hear
stories.
One
encouraging
story
is
that
our
police
force
stopped
somebody
who
could
have
been
involved
with
trafficking
and
actually
rescued
this
girl
who's
coming
from
northern
Minnesota.
V
So
we're
very
excited
that
our
police
force
is
on
board
with
preventing
trafficking
and
are
aware
of
this,
the
red
flags
and
the
signs
of
if
this
is
happening
or
not
so
with
the
the
pornography
portion.
That's
something
that
we're
hoping
to
address,
especially
with
our
younger
kids,
making
sure
that
they
know
that
they're
safe
with
social
media
that
they're
not
participating
in
actions
where
they
could
easily
be
trafficked
without
even
realizing
it.
If
someone
starts
distributing
an
image
for
value
that
they
didn't
even
know
got
into
the
wrong
hands.
V
So
if
we
continue
here,
our
model
of
prevention
has
many
different
levels
where
just
educating
individuals,
where
we're
hoping
to
also
create
laws
on
the
state
side
and
then
changing
organizational
practices.
So
we'll
go
through
a
few
of
those,
and
we
have
images
here
so
the
first
one
here
is
influencing
or
educating
individuals
and
last
fall.
V
Next,
we
educate
providers,
and
so
I
was
very
honored
to
be
into
the
Watertown
high
school
to
do
an
in-service
for
all
the
staff
there,
but
making
sure
that
they're
aware
of
what
the
red
flags
are
of
trafficking
if
it
were
to
occur
with
one
of
their
students
and
then
knowing
what
to
do.
If
that
does
happen,
and
then
we
are
partnering
with
truckers
against
trafficking
and
reaching
out
to
truckers,
because
it's
amazing
how
they
are
the
eyes
and
ears
of
our
interstate
system
where
they
can
recognize
trafficking.
V
I
know,
traffickers
will
go
to
a
truck,
stop
and
hat,
make
their
girls
go
truck
to
truck
to
truck,
and
so
we're
excited
to
be
partners
with
them.
We've
also
done
trainings
with
the
HSA
staff
and
so
forth.
So
next
we
are
creating
coalition's
and
networks.
We
have
the
Watertown
initiative
to
prevent
sex
trafficking
coalition.
V
We
have
24
organizations
on
that
Kol
and
we're
just
thrilled
to
be
part
of
that
and
to
have
such
a
wonderful
response
from
our
community
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
working
together
and
sharing
our
resources
to
prevent
this
horrendous
crime
and
then
changing
organizational
practices
that
that
would
include
truck
steps,
educating
their
employees
to
recognize
sex
trafficking
and
hotels,
to
join
something.
What's
called
the
code
and
that's
a
group
membership
that
they
can
have
in
this
group,
where
they
have
to
follow
certain
rules
and
what
they
need
to
do
to
prevent
trafficking.
V
Because
housekeepers
can
recognize
when
somebody
was
a
client
is
bringing
a
girl
in
to
a
hotel
room
or
so
forth.
And
then,
lastly,
we
have
changing
policies
and
laws,
and
so
we
are
honored
to
work
on
a
bill
with
Senator
Reid
Helene.
This
last
session
Senate
bill
168,
and
he
also
proposed
1/6
Senate
bill
169
and
those
passed.
And
so
we
did
strengthen
our
South
Dakota
law.
V
But
South
Dakota
is
considered
one
of
the
worst
states
in
the
entire
country
for
trafficking
prevention
laws,
and
so
here's
a
grade
that
an
organization
has
given
our
state
and
we're
at
addy
and
so
we're
hoping
that
raises
a
little
bit.
But
we
definitely
have
more
work
to
do
there.
So
next,
just
a
little
background
about
trafficking.
V
It
doesn't
indicate
that
that's
the
top
number
of
trafficking
that
happened
in
our
state,
it's
just
the
ones
that
we
are
aware
of,
and
so
it
is
happening
here
in
South,
Dakota,
the
most
vulnerable
population,
our
Native
Americans,
and
so
just
last
week.
I
got
an
email
from
one
of
our
networking
partners
up
in
Sisseton
and
they
had
another
suspected
girl
that
was
a
16
year
old
girl
that
was
being
trafficked,
and
so
those
stories
would
come
in
on
a
regular
basis,
all
most
of
our
youth
being
taken
by
these
predators
and
then
exploited.
V
So
the
risk
factors
for
sex
trafficking
are
included
there.
A
history
of
sexual
violence
is
a
big
one,
a
runaway,
but
really
the
reality
is
anyone
who's
vulnerable,
and
so
that's
really.
What
I
tried
to
tell
the
students
when
we
when
I
go
into
the
classroom,
is
that
it
can
be
as
something
as
simple
as
posting
on
Facebook
I'm,
really
mad
at
my
mom
today,
I
I'm
fighting
with
her
I,
don't
want
to
be
in
this
house
and
more
anymore
and
a
female
in
one
case
here
in
the
u.s.
V
contacted
somebody
who
had
said
that
a
17
year
old
girl
and
said
why?
Don't
you
just
come,
hang
out
with
me
like
we'll
just
go
to
my
house
like
you,
can
get
away.
I
totally
know
what
you're
going
through
and
came
and
picked
up
this
girl
and
then
took
her,
and
it
happened
that
her
and
her
boyfriend
were
traffickers
and
they
drugged
her
and
ended
up
traffic
heating
this
girl's.
So
it
is
so
important
to
be
safe
online.
V
That's
so
important,
because
here
in
Watertown
we
feel
like
we
have
a
wonderfully
safe
nice
community,
everyone's
trusting
and
yet
that
the
internet
breaks
down
all
geographical
barriers
for
our
kids
and
so
I'm,
very
big
on
making
sure
that
they're
safe
online
and
so
these
traffickers,
when
they
recruit,
they
go
for
the
vulnerable
children.
So
they
will
go
where
they
congregate,
malls
schools,
but
also
online,
and
they
look
for
someone
who,
like
that
girl
is
it's
kind
of
feeling
low.
Their
self-esteem
is
enough.
V
They're
they're,
angry
their
life
situation
isn't
ideal
and
they'll
and
they'll
start
targeting
them
and
they
don't
go
and
instantly
kidnap
them.
Typically,
it's
it's
they'll
take
months
and
it's
called
grooming
and
they'll
they'll
have
their
victim
gain
trust
in
them
over
time
and
then
once
they
gain
that
trust
and
usually
it's
a
no
ends
up
being
a
romantic
relationship
with
an
older
boyfriend
will
come
and
try
to
gain
the
trust
of
you
know:
12
13
14
year
old,
then
they'll
say
you
know,
I'm
really
down
and
out.
Today,
I
can't
pay
my
car
bill.
V
Can
you
go
do
this
for
me
once
and
then
and
then
the
next
night
I'll
be?
Oh
you,
you
know,
I
need
more
money,
baby,
let's,
let's
go
do
this
again
and
we're
doing
it
for
us
as
a
couple
and
so
many
victims
of
sex
trafficking,
don't
even
realize
that
they're
being
trafficked,
and
so
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
drugs
violence
aren't
involved
a
drug
dealer
to
traffic
someone
who
is
indebted
to
them
like
if
they
have
a
meth
debt
and
then
what
are
the
signs
of
trafficking?
V
If
there's
bruises
physical
trauma,
there's
somebody
who
is
not
appropriately
dressed
for
the
weather,
very
sexualized
clothing,
an
older
boyfriend
or
girlfriend
who's
controlling,
but
really
it
could
be
many
different
things
that
could
show
up
in
many
different
ways
and
then
that's
where
this
National
Human
Trafficking
hotline
comes
in
where
there's
one
Center
in
the
u.s..
That
takes
all
these
calls
like
from
that
heat
map,
and
you
can
call
in
if
you
suspect
anything
and
it's
so
important,
because
we
all
drive
down
the
interstate.
V
We
all
travel
places,
and
so
one
really
encouraging
story
is
a
trucker
saw
a
couple
girls
next
to
a
green
exit
sign
on
the
interstate
and
he
called
this
number
and
they
did
end
up
being
trafficked
and
they
he
not
only
saved
them
but
like
13
other
girls
with
that
similar
call
so
I'm
honored
to
be
here,
I'm,
so
thankful
that
we
have
a
community
that's
ready
to
respond
and
to
really
make
sure
that
we
prevent
this
from
happening
before
it
even
starts
gaining
hold
in
our
community.
So
any
questions
well.
A
K
I
V
A
bad
grade
in
terms
of
our
laws
protecting
against
trafficking,
because
we
don't
have
the
right
laws
in
place
to
protect
the
victims,
but
we
also
are
very
low
on
the
totem
pole
of
preventing
the
demand,
because
trafficking
only
exists
when
there's
demand,
and
so,
if
we
don't
address
that
and
recognize
that
then
and
have
a
higher
penalty
for
people
who
are
buying
sex
from
minors.
Who
are
enslaved
that
that's
where
that
comes
from.
V
And
then
with
the
we
do,
have
a
problem
with
trafficking,
because
they're
seeing
gang
members
come
and
organized
crime
come
into
our
state
because
everyone
is
so
trusting,
and
then
we
have
I
29
and
I
90.
And
so
those
are,
you
know,
sometimes
known
as
drug
routes.
They're
also
known
as
trafficking
routes
of
other
human
beings.
So
and
then,
with
our
two
big
events,
where
lots
of
men
come
to
our
state
and
then
with
our
vulnerable
population
of
the
Native
Americans
and
the
reservations
Jenna.
V
J
V
P
V
It's
a
good
question,
so
I
don't
know
how
much
I
can
share
I,
don't
know
too
much
about
it,
but
it
was
an
older
boy,
older
guy
traveling,
with
a
young
girl
and
I
think
right
away
that
that
should
spark
some
just
like
questions
of.
Why
are
why
are
you
two
alone
traveling
and
then
at
that
point?
Maybe
he
was
answering
questions
and
she
didn't
know
quite
what
was
going
on
and
she
didn't
seem
like
she
had
a
clue.
V
G
V
We
are
an
immigrant,
real
Watertown
and
then
a
radius
of
a
hundred
miles,
which
is
quite
large,
so
we're
starting
here
and
then
working
our
way
out.
But
we
have
already
started
partnering
with
the
West
River
human
trafficking,
task
force
and
organizations
in
Sioux,
Falls,
and
so
we've
helped
to
facilitate
bringing
in
the
same
training
for
the
law
enforcement
that
we
did
in
Sisseton
to
Rapid,
City
and
hopefully
to
Pier.
So
we're
hoping
to
do
partner
of
statewide.
But
right
here
with
our
education
with
a
hundred
mile
radius
of
Watertown.
M
You
I
think
the
really
important
thing
here
too,
is
not
only
to
hit
the
children
and
the
health
care
providers,
not
everything
else.
We
need
to
really
drive
this
home
to
the
parents
as
well,
because
until
I
started
working
with
you,
I
really
had
a
little
knowledge
about
the
dark
web
and
then,
when
I
found
out
what
it
is
and
how
you
can
access
it
and
what
happens
on
it.
That
was
kind
of
a
wake-up
call
for
me,
because
I
thought
well,
kids
can
get
on
that.
M
A
All
right,
we
will
move
on
here.
A
number
for
Mary
John
off
sale,
license
renewal
for
number
one
casino
incorporated
doing
business
as
number
one
casino
at
1006,
14th
Street
southeast
for
the
period
of
July
1
2016
to
June
30th
of
2017
and
I
will
say
that
the
next
these
next
four
will
all
be
pretty
much
the
same
information.
They
were
all.
A
There
was
a
sting
if
you
recall
earlier
earlier,
lash
or
later
last
year,
I
think
there
was
about
nine
casinos
that
were
checked
on
and
these
four
actually
failed
and
they
had
sold
to
minors.
So
at
this
time,
I
will
hold
the
public
hearing.
If
there's
anyone
that
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
this
malt
beverage
liquor
license
renewal.
This
is
your
opportunity.
A
F
Mayor
we
had
talked
once
about
requiring
the
license
holder
to
come
to
the
council
at
the
night
that
they
are
being
reconsidered.
If
they've
had
a
violation.
Is
that
if
we
ever
moved
in
that
direction
because
it
seems
be
honestly,
it
seems
a
little
futile
to
be
doing
what
we're
doing
if
it's
I
think.
A
A
A
I
A
Street
southeast
for
the
period
of
July,
1
2016
to
June
30th
2017.
At
this
time,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
If
there's
anyone
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
this
hearing,
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
I'll
look
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion
motion
by
Bruce
second,
by
Randy.
Any
questions
on
this
same
thing
holds
true.
They
were
selling
to
minors
at
the
time
when
the
sting
went
through.
A
So
if
there's
no
questions,
I'll
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
six
malt
beverage
on
off
sale,
license
renewal
for
Corning
and
lore
Incorporated
doing
business
as
winner's
circle
at
one
three
fifth
Street
northeast
for
the
period
of
July
1
2016
to
June
30th
of
2017.
This
time,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
A
If
there's
anyone
here
that
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
hearing
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
I'll
look
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion
motion
by
bethe
second,
by
Bruce
any
questions
on
this
hearing.
None
I'll
look
for
counsel
action,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
7
malt
beverage
on
off
sale,
license
renewal
for
M&M
Foxy's,
incorporated
doing
business
as
foxy
said:
137
5th,
Street
northeast
for
the
period
of
July
1
of
2016
to
June
30th
of
2017.
At
this
time,
I'll
open
the
public
hearing.
P
A
Who
do
we
have
a
I'm?
Sorry
I
was
right.
Okay,
I
got
John
and
Glen
motion
by
John
second
by
Glen
any
questions
on
this
hearing.
None
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye,
aye,
opposed
motion
carried
I.
Think
what
we?
What
we've
done
tonight
guys
is.
It
does
seem
a
little
strange,
but
I
think
we
just
put
them
on
notice
that
if
they
do
have
these
they're
gonna
have
to
come
in
front
of
you
guys
and
answer
questions
of
why
it
happened.
Fair
enough.
K
A
A
K
A
A
G
A
Fair
enough
guys,
all
right
number,
eight
application
for
a
transfer,
a
retailer
off
sale.
Malt
beverage
license
from
cloud
nine
Golf
Course
incorporated
doing
business
has
closed
cloud.
Nine
golf
course,
which
is
an
inactive
license
at
this
time
at
six:
twenty
five,
twenty
thousand
southeast
to
cloud
nine
golf
course
incorporated
doing
business
as
cloud.
Nine
golf
course
which
it
will
become
active
at
six:
twenty
five,
twenty
thousand
of
southeast.
So
at
this
time
I'll
open
the
public
hearing.
A
J
F
P
P
A
Do
I
have
a
motion
a
second
on
the
floor?
Okay,
any
other
questions.
Hearing
none
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
nine
application
for
transfer
of
ownership
of
a
retail
on
sale,
liquor
license
from
Stoltenberg
entertainment,
incorporated
doing
business
as
Sparky's
at
19,
North
Broadway
to
SNL
entertainment,
incorporated
doing
business
at
Sparky's
at
the
same
location.
At
this
time,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
If
there's
anyone
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
this
perfect.
Q
W
Get
my
student
I'm
Matt
Roby
I'm
an
attorney
here
in
town
I'm
representing
us
and
I'll
entertainment.
The
only
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
it's
actually
not
incorporation.
That's
a
limited
liability
company
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
on
the
public
record
at
sno-isle
s,
Adan
Entertainment
LLC.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say.
A
And
you
can
change
that
over
on
your
end
over
there
perfect.
Thank
you
Matt,
okay.
So
if
there's,
nobody
else
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
us
I
will
close.
The
public
hearing
I'll
look
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
I'm.
Sorry
I
have
that
do
I,
not
I'll.
Look
for
counsel
action,
all
those
in
favor
do
I
are
doing
okay,
let's
get
a
motion
a
second
on
this
I'm
John
and
and
Randy
any
questions.
Gary.
Not.
You
surprised
me
with
that
public
hearing.
Q
A
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
10
application
for
a
transfer
of
ownership
of
retail
on
off
sale.
Malt
beverage
license
from
that's
what
we
just
did
is
now.
Oh
there's
a
new
one
here:
okay,
that's
the
on
off
sale.
Malt
beverage
license
from
Stoltenberg
an
entertainment
incorporated
doing
business
at
Sparky's
at
19,
South
Broadway
to
SNL
Entertainment
LLC,
doing
business
at
Sparky's
at
the
same
location.
At
this
time,
I'll
open
the
public
hearing.
A
If
there's
anyone
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
this
okay
same
note,
LLC
I
will
at
this
time.
If
there's
nobody
else.
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
I'll
look
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
council
action
motion
by
bethe.
Second,
by
glenn
any
questions.
Hearing
none
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
11
application
for
a
special
event:
retail
malt
beverage
on
off
sale,
license
and
especially
event,
retail
on
off
sale.
Wine
license
to
Lake
area
Zoological
Society
at
800,
10th,
Street
Northwest.
A
P
A
Hey
did
you
want
to
come
up
here
and
tell
us
who
you
are
and
Taekwondo
or
what
is
it?
Yeah
I
show
some
moves
out
here.
B
Well,
this
project-
or
this
ordinance
is
related
to
the
glacial
lakes
energy
proposed
project
to
do
the
multiple
track
rail
improvements
down
south
of
212
along
what
is
now
the
vacated
portion
of
Broadway.
So
with
that
I
I
mean
this
is
a
first
reading.
This
is
a
basically
indicating
that
they
want
to
change
the
zoning
right.
A
A
B
A
A
Any
old
business
that
some
of
you
anybody
wants
to
discuss.
I
have
one
small
piece
that
I'd
like
to.
Let
you
know
about
the
storm
shelter.
It
sounds
like
we're
getting
our
approval
for
the
grant
for
the
storm
shelter,
but
there's
been
questions
that
have
been
raised
by
the
folks
at
the
soccer
field
and
I
just
wanted
them
to
understand
that,
even
though
we
have
the
the
storm
shelter
coming
through
as
a
grant,
it's
not
set
in
stone
exactly
where
it's
going
to
be
yet.
A
G
A
G
A
People
I
believe,
isn't
that
forty
forty
people
or
I
don't
know
I,
don't
remember,
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
firemen
here.
Do
we
it's
pretty
good
sighs?
You
know
I
I,
don't
have
those
right
in
front
of
me
here.
I,
don't
recall
just
about
every
bit
of
it
yeah
very.
Very
little.
Do
we
have
to
do
so?
I'm,
sorry.
Maybe
it's
only
40
in
the
bathroom
I
don't
know.
A
Okay,
I'm
also
going
to
ask
the
council
on
another
issue:
the
ball
fields.
You
know,
we've
been
working
extremely
hard
on
those
and
we've
had
some
changes.
What
I'm
asking
the
council
is
that
you
go
ahead
and
give
the
mayor
the
authority
to
go
up
to
about
$5,000
on
any
change
orders
so
that
we
have
everything
under
control.
A
A
G
G
A
A
B
B
The
single
sheet,
that's
double
copied,
is
related
to
the
Memorial
Park
bike
trail
project
that
we
received
federal
funding
through
the
state
to
construct,
and
it's
some
required
documents
that
basically
solidify
the
one
site
is
a
right
away:
certificate
saying
that
we've
acquired
or
have
all
of
the
locations
to
put
the
bike
trail
on,
and
we
actually
established
an
easement
between
the
county
and
the
city
establishing
the
trail
through
the
park
and
also
identifying
the
portions
of
the
trail
that
are
within
City
right
away.
B
So
this
document
needs
to
be
signed
by
the
mayor
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
sent
to
the
state.
So
then
the
other
one
is
a
requirement
where
we
have
to
notify
all
of
the
utility
companies
that
may
exist
within
that
same
district
and
every
company
that
you
see
listed
on.
That
document
received
a
letter
from
our
office
and
basically
putting
them
on
notice
that
we're
putting
the
bike
path
through
there
and
if
they
have
any
impacts
and
then
they
can
notify
us.
B
P
K
B
Can
you
put
my
screen
on
okay
so
right
now
the
trail
ends
in
this
cluster
of
buildings
in
the
parkway
and
it's
it's
kind
of
a
convenient
place
to
end
right
now,
because
it's
near
all
the
shelters
and
this
other
I
can't
remember
what
building
that
is,
but
ultimately,
we'll
have
to
find
a
route
that
comes
out
of
the
park
in
either
crosses
back
over
into
public
right
away
here
or
find
a
route
around
to
it
from
the
south.
So
that's
the
challenge
that
the
community
has
going
forward
with
the
bike
drove
in.
B
B
B
I'm
gonna
switch
ends
a
tone
on
ya.
The
multiple
page
document
I
handed
out
is
a
engineering
agreement
between
us
and
engineering
in
the
city,
and
the
agreement
is
to
improve
the
intersection
of
26th
Street
up
to
what
is
now
being
constructed
as
8th,
Avenue
South
East.
So
this
section
of
road
and
the
connection
to
212
would
be
designed
within
this
agreement.
So
with
that
the
document
just
to
summarize
it
has
a
total
total
maximum
fee
of
thirty,
two
thousand
nine
hundred
for
the
engineering
services
to
design
that
project.
That.
A
B
A
A
B
That
indicated
that
the
county
still
is
on
track
and
have
that
is
preparing
a
budget
for
that.
So
that
and
then
one
item
that
is
related
to
that-
that
requires
a
little
bit
more
immediate
action.
Is
there
is
a
six
hundred
and
fifteen
dollar
per
year
fee.
That
is
a
component
of
this.
That's
an
additional
to
the
amount
I
previously
said,
and
what
that
does
is
allow
us
to
there's
a
portion
of
picture
Pictometry
in
the
national
court
that
has
a
pecan
tree
connect
and
what
that
is
is
it's.
B
A
G
B
T
B
A
You
one
other
thing:
I
wanted
to
visit
with
you
folks
about,
and
it
deals
with
retail,
and
you
know
we
just
had
the
the
Hobby
Lobby
announced
that
they're
coming
to
Watertown
and-
and
that
was
I-
think
it's
a
great
thing
for
water
tone
to
get
this
particular
business.
It
has
anywhere
between
30
and
50
employees
and
they'll
be
nicely
paid.
You
know,
it's
I
think
it's
four
full-time.
A
It's
almost
sixteen
dollars
an
hour
for
part
time,
it's
ten
dollars
and
37
or
32
cents
an
hour
I
think
it's
gonna
be
some
great
jobs,
but
here's
my
question.
You
know
we
spent
hours
and
hours
and
hours
on
bringing
Hobby
Lobby
into
town
and
we're
also
going
to
the
recon
at
the
end
of
May.
This
is
something
that
cost
the
city
about
four
thousand
dollars
for
two
of
us
to
go
to
recon.
For
that
four
days.
Recon
is
a
retail
convention
in
Las
Vegas.
That's
how
we
got
Hobby
Lobby
here
to
Watertown.
A
A
But
here's
where
I'm
going
with
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
as
Aberdeen
did
in
Brookings
des
Sioux
Falls
dead,
Pierre
is
looking
at
and
it's
to
hire
a
firm
that
can
actually
represent
Watertown
at
the
recons
was
and-
and
you
have
to
realize
that
there's
more
than
one
recon
that
goes
on
in
a
year.
There's
there's
Las
Vegas,
there's
Chicago
there
in
LA,
there's
about
five
of
them
that
go
on
every
year
that
they
can
promote
our
city
in
front
of
all
these
people
that
they
deal
with
I.
A
Underst
I
fully
understand
that
they're
kind
of
focused
in
on
on
the
commercial
aspect
of
manufacturing
and
such
so
it's
like
$40,000
a
year
in
order
to
bring
these
people
on
board
for
the
city,
you
do
have
to
sign
a
three-year
contract.
I've
met
with
them
in
Birmingham
when
we
were
down
there,
it's
$40,000
a
year.
You
signed
a
three-year
contract,
but
you
have
an
opt-out.
A
After
each
given
year,
they
will
I've
already
had
numerous
meetings
with
them
and
and
medians
with
retail
outlets
that
they're
talking
to
that
we've
been
in
conversation
with
for
the
city
and
they're
doing
this
without
any
kind
of
a
contract.
So
what's
your
thoughts
on
that
I'd
like
to
really
just
kind
of
throw
it
out
there
and
let
you
guys,
let
me
know
what
you
think.
G
A
I
A
Dealing
with
it
not
so
much
the
the
big
Hobby,
Lobby
stores
or
anything
like
that,
well
III
would
like
to
open
up
some
conversation
with
them.
It's
not
that
I'd
like
to
hire
them
quite
yet
John
and
I'll
be
going
to
the
Recon
in.
Is
it
the
22nd
John?
Something
like
that?
There's
other
firms
that
do
this
and
I
think
we
should
really.
A
Q
A
I
I
A
G
A
I
A
Doubt
it,
but
I
will
tell
you
this:
they
were
very
helpful,
bringing
in
the
Hobby
Lobby.
You
know,
because
Craig
and
I
had
discussions
with
them
in
the
very
beginning
and
then,
when
it
kind
of
blossomed,
to
where
there
we
knew
what
was
going
on,
they
kind
of
bowed
out
of
it,
and
the
development
company
is
very
good.
I
got
to
tell
you.
Craig
was
one
of
the
speakers
at
the
last
meetings
about
Finance
how
they
can
help
companies
do
the
financing
and
that
wasn't
needed
at
this
particular
item.
J
A
F
A
I
think
you
absolutely
have
to
have,
because
what
they
do
is
that
these
companies
then
line
up
meetings
with
you
and
they've
kind
of
done,
the
the
footwork
with
them.
They
know
that
these
folks
are
looking
to
expand
into
South,
Dakota
and
they're
looking
at
Watertown,
and
then
we
have
more
of
a
warm
warm
reception,
Billy.
M
A
G
A
A
We
need
to
be
on
board
because
when
you
take
a
look
at
something
like
Hobby
Lobby
and
you
guys
all
know
it,
they're
gonna
bring
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
the
city
and
the
two
percent
sales
tax
they've
got
30
to
50
jobs,
they're
gonna
be
houses
being
bought,
they
say
it's
a
big
deal
for
us
and
you
know,
I
just
did
so.
I
think
that
we
need
to.
We
need
to
get
on
board
well.
K
I
would
agree
that
you
know
do
it
that
we
need
to
get
on
board
or
not
it's
a
great
great
opportunity.
I
would
definitely
entertain
the
idea
that
you
guys
look
at
some
of
the
other
firms,
though,
while
you're
out
and
and
to
recon,
show
and
I'd
like
to
see
something
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
than
you
know.
Here
you
get
a
Hobby
Lobby
or
something
like
that
and
in
a
restaurant
builds
next
to
that.
It's
fine
because
they're
bringing
in
extra
people
that
help
support
that.
So
you.
A
Know
and
if
I
may
I
can
just
let
you
know
that
my
analogy
of
Hobby
Lobby
was:
is
that
you
look
at
that
area
as
a
lake
and
Hobby
Lobby?
This
is
a
fishing
tournament,
Hobby
Lobby.
We
got
the
boat
in
the
water
and
now
we're
going
to
be
out
there
catching
some
of
these
money.
Fish
we're
gonna
get
those
people.
There
are
at
least
six
or
seven
retail
and
and
other
things
that
are
looking
at
that
area.
A
M
Had
an
understanding,
too,
that
some
of
the
larger
stores
and
organizations
are
looking
at
a
model
they're
looking
at
changing
a
model
that
can
go
into
smaller
markets
and
still
be
successful,
so
they're
looking
at
the
size
of
the
building.
So
it
gives
an
opportunity
for
us
to
have
a
store
that
we
would
not
even
imagine
whatever
come
here.
Deb.
You
heard
that
that
there
oh.
A
Yeah,
you
know
just
to
give
you
an
idea:
I
I,
I
did
talk
to
Coles
and
Kohl's.
Has
it
has
a
down
scaled
model
of
their
store?
They
kind
of
flat-out
told
me
last
week
that
they're
not
ready
for
water
tone
but
I
think
in
the
very
near
future.
They
will
be
so
we
need
to
continue
to
be
on
them
and-
and
that
was
one
of
the
interesting
things
this
company
I
was
talking
about.
They
deal
with
Coles.
They
they
work
with
them
all
the
time
and
they
they
put
them
into
towns.
A
A
It
was,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
is
Shane.
You
know
when
they
brought
in
the
the
Platte
and-
and
we
got
the
Platte
all
worked
up.
It
was
called
a
Hobby
Lobby
plan
and
it's
filed
that
was
filed
with
the
court
else
and
everybody
in
the
courthouse
knew
about
I'm.
Just
down
you,
you
know,
I
went
around
a
wildfire,
so
things
aren't
very
well
kept,
but
it's
just
okay,
the
way
he
is
yeah.
A
I
do
want
to
let
you
know.
John
and
I
are
gonna,
be
talking
these
companies
down
there,
it'll
it'll
be
a
lot
of
those.
We
also
have
some
appointments
set
up
with
retail
outlets.
I,
don't
believe
we
have
any
any
restaurants
lined
up
that
we're
going
to
talk
to
at
this
time.
So
anything
else
any
leads
on
member
reports
and
you
need
to
go
into
executive
session
Oh
as
I
look
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
motion
by
Bruce
second
by
Glen,
all
in
favor,
say
aye.