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A
B
Albertson
Bueller
Danforth
here
manty
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Burger
here
Robi
here
so
yeah
Thorson
here
Tupper
here,
Phil
how're,
your.
A
A
Any
questions
changes
concerns
any
none,
I,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
three
presentation
by
Kevin
Van
well
on
the
international
traveling
statue
of
Our
Lady
of
fátima
I
hope,
I
said
that
right,
Kevin.
What's
that
Fatima
I'm?
Sorry,
the
the
traveling
statue
of
Our
Lady
of
Fatima,
okay,
well,
Kevin
I!
We
get
a
long
agenda
tonight,
so
I
I
told
you
I'd,
give
you
it
just
a
few
minutes.
If
you
want
to
camp
light
it
up.
Let
us
know:
what's.
C
Going
on
Thank
You
mayor
and
thank
you
City
Council
for
letting
me
come.
The
international
traveling
statue
of
Our
Lady
of
Fatima
is
here
from
Portugal
and
there
is
five
statues
that
were
cast
that
are
sent
throughout
the
world
this
year.
Portugal
has
deemed
it
very
important
that
she
come
to
our
country,
we're
supposed
to
be
the
leaders
of
the
free
world
and
we're
not
taking
that
very
seriously
and
I'm
gonna
read
a
few
things
so
that
I
can
keep
on
track,
but
she
is
in
the
United
States.
C
She
came
in
January
of
2016
and
she's
here
to
remind
us
of
what
our
country
has
stood
for,
what
we're
supposed
to
be
standing
up
for
and
how
we're
supposed
to
be
the
leaders
of
the
free
world,
and
she
is
going
to
be
here
through
October
13th,
which
was
the
last
operation
of
her
appearance
in
Fatima.
So
she
is
here.
You
guys
have
a
schedule
of
what's
happening,
she's
going
to
be
in
six
towns
in
eastern
South
Dakota
and
six
towns
in
western
South,
Dakota
she's
traveling
to
all
100
95
diocese
in
the
United
States.
C
This
is
words
given
from
Pope
Pius,
the
12th,
on
a
trip
that
he
made
to
the
United
States
in
October
of
1936.
This
trip
gave
him
a
glimpse
of
America
to
a
young
to
a
sturdy
so
glorious.
He
then
made
a
beautiful
statement
about
America
in
its
providential
place
in
the
world.
The
American
people
have
a
genius
for
splendid
and
unselfish
action
and
into
the
hands
of
America.
God
has
placed
the
destinies
of
afflicted
humanity.
May
the
noble
flame
of
brotherly
love
be
kindled
in
your
hearts.
C
Let
it
not
die
quenched
by
an
unworthy,
timid
caution
in
the
face
of
the
needs
of
your
brethren.
Let
it
not
be
overcome
by
the
dust
and
the
dirt
of
the
world
wind
of
anti
Christian
and
non-christian
spirit
keep
alive
this
flame
increase.
It
carry
it
wherever
there
is
to
be
a
groan
of
suffering,
a
lament
of
misery,
a
cry
of
pain
and
nourish
it
evermore.
C
With
the
heart
of
love
drawn
from
the
heart
of
the
Redeemer
armed
with
the
arms
of
spirit
and
heart
and
merciful,
weapons
of
peace,
wisdom,
justice,
charity,
we
must
stand
united
against
the
wanton
weapons
of
war,
tyranny,
hatred
and
greed.
Then
the
grief
of
the
world's
bereaved
in
the
graves
of
these
martyred
Dead
will
be
sealed
with
the
tranquility
and
the
glory
of
God's
peace.
C
Ronald
Reagan
read
this
passage
in
California
and
he
would
never
forget
it
for
Reagan
to
sense
that
God
had
ordained
America
where
it
was
and
what
it
was
for
a
special
purpose
as
a
force
of
splendid
action
against
the
disastrous
and
catastrophe
when
she
appeared
in
May
13th
1917.
This
was
a
hundredth
anniversary.
This
last
Saturday
there
was
an
article
in
the
public
opinion
which
I
have
not
read.
Yet
there
was
supposed
to
be
on
the
canonization
of
the
two
youngest
shepherds
as
she
appeared
to
and
what
her
story
was.
C
She
came
at
the
time
when
World
War
one
was
coming
to
an
end.
World
War
two
had
not
come
yet,
but
she
said
the
World
War
one
would
end
if
the
people
would
pray,
repent
and
say
rifice
and
come
back
to
God
like
they
were
supposed
to.
She
said:
if
that
does
not
happen,
a
greater
more
intense
war
will
come
and,
of
course,
we
know
World
War
two
came
I'm
gonna
have
a
blog,
I
was
on
k,
XL
G.
Last
week,
I
was
on
kwa
t
k,
XL
G.
C
Last
week,
I
was
on
K
SDR
this
morning.
There's
going
to
be
a
blog
this
coming
week,
that's
going
to
be
at
every
one
of
them
that
it's
going
to
explain
the
whole
story.
If
you
don't
know
what
it
is.
So
after
that
I'm
gonna
read
what
happened
to
America
April
30th
1779,
this
was
the
proclamation
that
went
forth
on
the
morning
of
the
day
in
which
our
illustrious
president
was
to
be
invested
with
his
office.
C
The
bells
will
ring
at
nine
o'clock
when
the
people
may
go
up
to
the
house
of
God
in
a
solemn
manner,
commit
the
new
government,
with
its
important
train,
of
consequences
to
the
Holy
protection
and
blessing
of
the
Most
High
an
early
hour
prudently
fixed
for
this
particular
act
of
devotion
and
is
designed
wholly
for
prayer.
George
Washington
gave
his
inaugural
address,
took
the
House
and
Senate
a
couple
of
blocks
down
the
street
to
st.
Paul's,
Chapel
and
consecrated
our
country
to
God
and
asked
for
his
protection
over
us.
America
would
rise
to
Heights.
C
It
would
stand
more
than
once
against
the
dark
movements
of
the
modern
age
that
has
threatened
the
world
and
to
liberate
Mildred
millions
from
oppression
and
to
possess
what
become
the
most
and
in
the
process.
It
would
become
the
most
blessed
most
prosperous,
the
most
powerful
and
the
most
revered
nation
on
earth
America's
greatest
moments.
There
was
always
sin
in
its
worst
moments
greatness,
but
there
was
a
critical
juncture
in
the
middle
of
the
20th
century.
America
began
officially
removing
god
from
its
national
life.
C
The
very
mention
of
the
name
of
God,
our
Jesus
in
any
revelant
revelant
context,
became
more
and
more
taboo
and
unwelcome
and
less
for
the
purpose
of
mockery
in
attack,
which
has
been
revered
a
sacred
as
now
increased,
created
as
profanity
and
as
God
was
driven
out.
Idols
were
brought
in
to
replace
him,
but
America
doesn't
worship
idols.
No,
we
just
don't
call
them
idols
as
God
was
expunged
from
American
life.
C
D
D
A
C
A
Kevin
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
Thank
you.
Okay,
number,
four:
application
for
a
new
package
off
sale,
malt
beverage
license
to
Target
Corporation
operation,
doing
business
as
target
stores
at
2000,
9th
Avenue
southeast.
This
will
be
kind
of
a
long
discussion.
I
think
what
we're
going
to
have
this
evening
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
at
this
time.
A
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
allow
anybody
to
come
up
and
speak
to
the
council
and
if
they
would
like,
if
we
could,
if
we
could
hold
you
know
if
there's
been
a
question
asked
or
a
comment
made.
If
we
wouldn't
repeat
ourselves
on
this,
then
we'll
get
moving
so
as
I
said,
I
have
a
public
open
public
hearing
opening
right
now.
So
if
there's
anybody
in
the
audience
that
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
this,
this
is
your
opportunity
to
do
this
and
John.
E
This
thing,
just
kind
of
Concerned
me
not
only
on
the
business
aspect
of
it
but
I'm,
a
parent
of
two
soon-to-be
teenagers
I
have
one
14
year
old
and
one
that's
gonna,
be
13
soon,
I,
remember
growing
up
in
this
town
and
I
never
found
it
weird
that
we
didn't
find
liquor
in
grocery
stores
or
anywhere
else,
except
for
actual
liquor
stores.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
knowing
myself
it
kept
me
out
of
trouble
for
a
lot
longer
than
it
might
have.
E
The
concern
with
me
is:
is
that
nowadays,
that,
with
the
way
we
draw
younger
people
to
our
shopping
centers
we're
willingly
putting
something
within
access
of
them,
thieving
stealing,
finding
some
other
reason
to
have
it:
possession
in
the
store,
we
all
see
it
walking
around
stores
any
size
where
you
see
open
cans
of
pop
scattered
throughout
the
store
energy
drinks.
Things
like
that,
according
to
the
National
Retail
Federation,
liquor
is
still
the
sixth
most
stoled
product
in
the
United
States
in
the
grocery
category.
It's
the
fourth
under
cigarettes,
meat
and
then
it's
liquor.
E
Sorry,
it
was
a
third
in
the
last
ones,
baby
formula,
so
that
to
me
is
we're
given
by
even
entertaining
this
idea
without
some
kind
of
control
or
limit
of
control.
I
have
a
feeling.
We're
gonna
see
a
dramatic
increase
in
things
that
we
don't
want
to
see.
If
people
truly
want
liquor,
we've
got
eight
liquor
stores
within
the
city
limits
or
ten
actually,
but
eight
that
are
fully
functional.
Liquor
stores
and
twenty
thousand
people
plus
people
coming
in
I
think
that's
adequate
enough
to
speak
for
itself.
I.
E
2.0,
1:08
and
I'll
read
it,
as
is
underage
prohibited
in
premises
holding
alcoholic
beverage
license.
This
is
found
underneath,
where
package
liquor
license
fall
under
as
well.
It
says
no
person
under
the
age
set
by
SD
CL
title
35
for
consumption
of
alcohol
beverage
shall
loiter
on
the
licensed
premises.
E
My
daughter
goes
to
big-box
stores
the
mall,
and
things
like
that
or
she'll
be
exposed
more
of
this
stuff
now
and
they
don't
necessarily
shop.
They
kind
of
meander
around.
You
know
they're
looking
at
stuff,
but
temptation
for
that
kind
of
a
thing
would
be
more
lie
or
just
more
out
there.
I
guess.
That's
like
I,
said
the
biggest
concern.
So
I
was
just
kind
of
seeing
how
how
we're
supposed
to
interpret
that
on
the
aspect
of
I
know.
In
the
past,
we've
had
to
have
separate
door
laws
and
that's
worked
out.
E
F
E
A
G
H
G
Police
resources
are
valuable
to
us
and
I
think
we
should
do
what
we
can
to
to
keep
keep
those
resources
to
protect
us
and
not
have
to
spend
so
much
time
patrolling
as
far
as
were,
though
the
liquor
and
alcohol
is
used,
I
think
it's
sufficient
way.
It's
the
way.
It's
provided
for
the
public
now
and
and
I
just
encourage
the
council
to
leave
it
the
way
it
is.
Thank.
I
Hello,
my
name
is
Tim
Wilson
and
I'm.
The
store
manager
of
the
local
target
here
in
town
and
well
I
speak
obviously
in
favor
of
of
the
liquor
license
approval
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
is
similar
to
what's
already
been
done
in
Aberdeen
and
to
Falls
in
Rapid
City,
where
we
have
other
Target
stores.
I
We
follow
all
similar
or
exact
same
practices
as
those
stores
who
do
sell
malt
beverages
in
their
stores
and
the
reason
that
those
were
provided
or
instituted
in
1993
in
those
stores
was
to
provide
a
one-stop
shopping
experience
for
our
guests.
It's
part
of
that
enhanced
experience
that
Target
strives
to
go
after
to
provide
and
I
think
that,
in
speaking
with
all
of
those
stores
leading
up
to
today,
they
have
countless
guests
on
a
weekly
basis
that
express
how
thankful
they
are.
I
They
have
everything
in
one
spot,
I'm,
a
father,
myself,
I
think
about
the
impact
as
spoken
previously
and
as
a
parent
in
any
other
place,
I've
lived.
They
provide
that
same
service
and
there's
no
disconnect
for
my
children
or
any
impact
negatively.
That
way,
in
fact,
as
a
parent
I'm
actually
thankful
to
that,
there
is
a
spot
where
I
can
make
one
stop
and
not
have
to
make
three
different.
You
know
destination
stops
when
I'm
collecting
groceries
and
those
types
of
things
also
would
like
to
address
that.
I
We
do
meet
all
legal
and
zoning
and
business
requirements
currently
established
by
the
city
of
Watertown.
For
the
license
and
I
understand
the
past.
Things
might
have
been
addressed
differently
at
through
the
council,
but
that
is
something
that
we've
done
good
research
on
and
implemented.
As
far
as
the
way
that
we
do
practice
all
of
the
any
potential
theft
process,
we
have
very
strict
and
diligent
manner
in
which
we
flow
through
the
receiving
process
into
the
store.
I
The
merchandising
guidelines,
the
point-of-sale
and
asset
protection,
both
in
the
store,
constantly
monitoring
and
through
our
headquarters
in
Minneapolis
I,
would
say,
probably
tops
from
a
retail
environment
on
what
you
could
have
in
place
to
prevent
any
misuse
service
mistrust
by
the
guests
to
thieve.
From
that
any
questions,
any.
J
I
K
J
A
L
L
We
know
research
shows
data
shows
that
the
more
access
that
you
have
available,
the
more
likely
that
youth
are
going
to
use
and
when
youth
are
more
likely
to
use,
there's
going
to
be
an
increase
in
other
behaviors,
whether
it's
vandalism,
burglary
sexual
behaviors,
you
know
maybe
experimenting
with
other
drugs.
That
type
of
thing,
the
other
piece
of
retail
access,
is
maybe
not
necessarily
the
kids
going
in
and
stealing
themselves,
but
it's
more
opportunity
for
of
aged
adults
to
go
in
and
buy
for
the
minor
where
it
might
be:
hey
you're,
going
in
there.
L
Can
you
just
grab
us
something
or
it
might
be,
as
people
say
convenient.
Sometimes
you
have
to
put
some
thought
into
whether
you're
gonna
buy
alcohol
or
what
not,
and
so
you
go
to
your
liquor
store
here.
It
could
be
more
of
an
impulse
buy
so
families
or
parents
and
adults
will
have
more
of
that
in
their
home.
Where,
then,
the
kids
would
have
access
to
that
alcohol,
and
that
opens
up
the
can
of
worms
with
social
access
as
well,
where
there
might
be
more
in
the
fridge
and
that
type
of
thing
with
alcohol
density.
L
L
So
we
need
to
consider
the
health
and
social
problems
that
are
both
tragic
and
costly
when
it
comes
to
underage
and
binge
drinking
for
watertown.
At
the
last
meeting
when
I
was
reading
through
the
the
minutes,
City
Council,
you
guys
approved
already
62
existing
malt
beverage
licenses
in
our
community
and
I
would
say
that
is
fairly
convenient
in
our
community
with
our
population
also
separate
from
that
with
alcohol
license.
We
do
have
ten
in
the
community.
We
do
have
nine
that
are
within
the
city
limits
and
very
accessible.
L
We
have
drive
throughs
and
actually
we
have
more
liquor
stores
than
what
is
supposed
to
be
by
state
statute,
but
because
of
zoning
and
grandfathering
in,
we
actually
have
more
liquor
stores
than
what
we're
supposed
to
with
our
population
density.
And
so
our
viewpoint
with
our
prevention
efforts
with
our
youth
is,
we
don't
want
to
have
more
access
to
alcohol
for
our
youth
in
the
community,
because
we
know
that
other
problems
can
arise
from
that.
L
K
Hi
we're
Brian
and
Tania
Perry.
Our
concern
is
we
moved
here
a
couple
years
ago
we
got
the
business,
we've
never
been
business
owners,
so
this
is
our
first
business
that
we've
owned
and
we
kind
of
got
this
opportunity
to
move
closer
to
family,
so
we
kind
of
uprooted
our
family
from
Sioux
Falls
area.
We
lived
there
for
21
years,
and
it's
been
great
here.
We
we
knew
coming
to
Watertown.
Was
it
growing
and
loved
it
and
shopping
local
I,
like
the
radio
stations
are
great.
You
know
they
promote
shopping,
small
local
stores
here.
K
So
we
appreciate
that
and
we've
given
back
to
the
community
and
anybody
that's
come
in
and
asked
for
donations.
We've
always
give
you
know
how
we
think
that's
great,
and
so
our
concern
is
just
you
know.
If
this
wasn't
a
target,
will
it
go
into
Walmart
I
mean
that
we're
on
the
edge
of
town
we
count
on
Walmart
sends
people
over
to
us
all
the
time,
and
we
count
on
that
and
it's
it
helps
us
so
bringing
it
into
these
bigger
stores.
What
will
hurt
us,
and
so
we
just
about
it-
I
guess
I'm.
M
Randy
Grunwald
I
own
Dakota,
butcher
and
Clark
in
Watertown
and
trying
to
put
another
one
in
East
Side
at
Watertown
too,
with
with
a
beer
license,
I'm
trying
to
I
was
trying
to
think
the
positives
of
getting
these
super
centers
the
targets
Walmart's
the
the
super
hy-vee's
to
to
make
them
one-stop
shops.
You
know
that
was
one
of
the
positives
that
they
said:
one-stop
shops.
Well,
the
Dakota
butchers
that
I
that
I
currently
owned
I
believe
when
we
get
this
third
location
open.
M
In
and
we
quite
frank
with
you
guys,
the
the
advertisement
that
I
hear
every
day,
I
got
to
think
of
one
other
way
to
advertise
better
than
discount
liquor,
because
he's
spent
all
his
money
and-
and
we
appreciate
the
we
do
I-
think
our
our
liquor
stores
really
appreciate
the
competition
amongst
ourselves
and
we
charted
I
mean
there's
they're,
not
gonna,
save
a
lot
of
money,
because
we
can
only
go
so
low
on
our
prices
and
they're
too
low.
Now,
don't
you
agree
but-but-but?
M
That's
very
important
things
to
a
very,
very
I
mean
kids
are
our
most
important
asset
but
I
think
getting
these
these
business
owners
that
that
live
in
town
and
move
to
town
and
we're
moving
our
family
to
town
and
my
son's
move
in
here
and
it's
important
for
us
to
not
make
our
community
a
one-stop
shop
just
because
the
Sioux
Falls
and
all
these
other
towns
made
the
mistake
of
letting
them
have
alcohol
in
their
in
their
in
their
stores.
That
doesn't
mean
that's
right.
M
You
know
they're,
not
gonna,
we're
not
gonna
we're
not
going
to
get
more
dollars
into
our
community,
more
sales
tax
dollars,
just
because
the
Walmarts
and
the
targets
and
the
IV's
have
the
opportunity
to
sell
liquor,
we're
just
spreading
it
out
and
we're
taken
away
from
the
guys
that
are
in
all
the
advertisements
and
hiring
all
the
employees,
because
the
those
large
businesses
aren't
gonna
they're
not
going
to
add
to
the
to
their
payroll
as
much
as
we
have
already
done
for
our
communities.
So
I
just
had
that.
So,
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thanks.
N
N
Don't
know
why
you've
singled
them
out,
but
we're
we're
by
Interstate
a
lot
of
people
that
come
off
the
interstate
don't
drive
all
the
way
into
water
town
they're
just
passing
through,
and
they
want
to
make
their
one-stop
shop
there
and
going
to
Randy's
point
about
the
one-stop
shop
I
myself
do
shop
at
Dakota
butcher
because
he
has
specialty
products.
We
don't
carry
at
Walmart,
so
I,
don't
know
where
we're
taking
Walmart
doesn't
take
his
meat
sales
away.
N
The
other
thing
is
we're
part
of
the
community.
We
have
240
plus
employees
that
work
here,
they're
from
the
Watertown
community
since
surrounding
communities.
So
I
mean
you
get
a
look
at
that
to
you.
Yes,
I
appreciate
Randy's,
a
job
that
he's
doing.
We
don't
bring
in
another
business,
but
that
would
have
put
it
to
the
save
you
counsel.
If
they're
wanting
a
whole
Walmart
Target
up
from
getting
a
liquor
license,
are
they
gonna
do
the
same
for
Dakota
butcher
at
their
second
location?
On
the
east
side,
I.
A
F
I'm
Jason
no
grant
I
think
I'm
in
favor
of
it
here.
My
thing
is
I
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
businesses
in
town,
very
local
community
owners
and
stuff,
like
that
they
say
you
know
introducing
new
products
into
storage
you're,
going
to
take
away
business.
What
happens
further
down
the
road
if
we
want
to
grow
water
tone,
I
mean
you
guys.
Populations
been
in
Watertown,
steady
for
so
long.
You
guys
want
to
bring
in
a
new
business
or
you
want
to
introduce
new
products.
It's
going
to
take
away
from
other
businesses.
F
Right
I
mean
no
matter
what
you
do.
Yeah
I
understand
that
it's
all
about
competition,
I
mean
don't
get
me
wrong,
like
I,
don't
think
none
of
these
retailer
stores
are
gonna
come
in
and
they're
gonna
make
900
foot
display
of
alcohol
beer.
You
know
they're
not
going
to
have
light
shining
on
it.
They're
not
going
to
have
a
famous
rock
star
come
in
to
sign
autographs
I
mean
they're,
just
looking
to
potentially
sell
another
product
to
help
drive
businesses,
not
only
within
our
store
with
the
other
stores.
F
You
know
and
who's
gonna
know
we
might
come
in
and
a
consumer.
We
might
not
have
what
they
want,
we'll
kick
them
to
the
next
store
down.
The
road
I
mean
you
know.
More
than
likely
you're
gonna
sit
there
and
you're
gonna
help
your
competitors
out
we're
not
fighting
each
other,
because
it's
a
city
right
we're
here
to
grow,
we're
here
to
help
each
other
out
we're
here
to
look
to
bring
new
businesses
in
you
guys
talk
about.
F
You
know
not
bring
in
businesses
into
town
and
stuff
like
that
or
you
guys
say,
like
Walmart,
you
know
you
said
you'd
come
a
lot
of
the
business
comes
in
right
off
the
interstate.
Well,
if
you
think
about
it,
everything
that
we're
building
closer
to
the
interstate,
isn't
it
new
middle
school,
that's
not
even
farther
into
town,
so
any
tournaments
that
we
have
and
stuff
like
that,
they're
going
in
one
spot,
and
then
they
go
right
to
their
hotel
because
it's
convenience
for
the
people
coming
to
town
right.
F
Looking
at
the
new
Ice
Arena,
if
that
gets
built.
Where
is
that
at
close
to
the
edge
of
town?
So
it's
easy
for
people
to
come
right
off,
so
there's
nothing
that
we're
building
to
grow,
to
bring
stuff
in
to
the
other
side
of
town
for
the
other
businesses
and
stuff,
like
that,
the
city's
growing
out
that
way
towards
the
interstate
I
hate
to
say
it.
You
know
but
I,
think
it's
it's
competitions,
great
amongst
all
people.
Do
we
want
to
take
money
away
from
these
local
businesses?
Do
you
know?
F
F
Think
it's
I
think
it's
a
great
thing
talk
about
underage
consumption
and
stuff,
like
that,
these
stores
haven't
even
have
it
in
it
and
the
retail
stores
yet
I,
don't
know
any
of
the
facts
of
how
many
under
ages
were
given
out
last
year.
Stuff
like
that,
but
I
mean
if
kids
want
to
get
it.
I
was
a
kid
once
growing
up
too,
if
I
wanted
something
bad
enough,
I
found
a
way
to
get
it.
It
didn't
matter
right,
I'm,
sure
your
guys's
kids
are
the
same
way.
F
They'll
sit
there
and
pout
and
they'll
try
to
get
whatever
they
want.
My
three-year-old
does
the
same
thing:
okay,
until
I
give
in
now
am
I
condoning
underage
drinking
no,
but
is
there
ways
that
we
can
help
contain
it?
Yes,
there
is,
you
know,
I
mean
a
community.
We
can
work
hand
in
hand
with
each
other
and
I.
Think
that's
what
it's
all
about.
Is
local
businesses
corporation
businesses
all
that
stuff
coming
together?
You
know:
what
can
we
do
to
help
each
other
out
to
fight
this?
F
F
I'm
just
saying
you
know
it's
one
of
those
things
like
you
know:
I'm,
not
representing
them,
but
I
worked
there,
but
as
a
citizen
of
Watertown,
though
I
mean
I've
lived
in
Aberdeen
I've
lived
in
Minneapolis
before
you
know,
somehow,
along
the
line
they're
able
to
do
it.
How
come
Watertown
can't
affect
those
rules
in
and
how
come?
We
can't
do
it
as
well.
Okay,.
Q
Kaleigh
Jackson
store
manager
in
the
Walmart
store
here
in
town
and
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
go
along
with
what
Target
said,
or
you
know
we
we
just
want
to
bring
it
in
to
be
convenient
for
our
customers,
and
we
want
to
make
the
most
convenient
shopping
experience
that
we
can
give
our
customers.
So
we
want
to
bring
it
in
for
that
aspect
again.
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
are
the
only
Walmart
store
in
the
state
of
South
Dakota.
Q
That
does
not
carry
beer
and
wine
in
the
store,
and
then
third
I
just
want
to
kind
of
talk
about
what
this
gentleman
talked
about
with
our
kids
and
our
youth.
I
also
have
a
teenage
daughter,
17
years
old,
and
it
worries
me
to
us
to
you
know,
have
things
like
this
around,
but
I
also
spoke
with
the
chief
McPeak
after
the
last
meeting
that
we
attended
and
we're
all
about
trying
to
mitigate
that
in
the
store.
Q
So
if
it
would
be
better
to
have
it
locked
up
or
up
in
our
old
subway
or
something
like
that,
rather
than
in
line,
we
can
definitely
look
at
that.
Whatever
you
know,
whatever
y'all
think
would
be
best
for
the
community
or
best
for
the
store
or
best
for
the
youth,
we're
not
opposed
to
that
either.
So
we
are
for
the
ordinance
I'm.
O
O
In
fact,
the
part
of
town
we
were
in
I
was
in
Casper
Wyoming
part
of
town
that
we
were
in
was
basically
dying
before
we
built
the
Walmart
there.
There
was
a
mall
right
in
the
parking
light
and
the
far
end
of
the
parking
lot
that
every
place
business
in
that
mall
was
up
for
sale
and
was
closing
within
a
year.
Every
business
in
there,
including
a
liquor
store,
was
going
full-bore
that
none
of
them
left
other
businesses
moved
in.
O
We
were
kind
of
ops
there
because
we're
on
this
side
of
town
that
nothing
was
happening.
There
was
another
Walmart
on
the
other
side
of
town
and
that's
where
everything
was
building
up,
but
we
kind
of
revitalized
that
in
the
town
there
was
all
the
grocery
stores
that
were
closing.
They
stayed
open
as
far
as
the
the
wines
and
that
that
Mayor
Steve
was
talking
about,
was
oak
leaf
wine
and
that
isn't
brought
in
by
Walmart.
O
It's
there,
the
the
state
of
Wyoming
on
that
all
the
liquor
and
it
has
to
be
brought
into
a
local
establishment,
our
local,
the
state
had
to
prove
it
and
they
brought
it
in
and
then
they
would
sell
to
us
all
of
our
all
of
our
vendor
type
products
come
through
local
vendors,
they
don't
come
through
Walmart.
There
will
be
certain
times
where
there
will
be
cross
docks.
What
we
call
cross
talks.
O
O
In
fact,
every
liquor
sting
that
we
ever
had,
and
there
was
many
of
them
we
passed
with
flying
colors.
As
far
as
theft
goes
also,
it's
the
one
area
of
our
store
that
didn't
ever
have
a
shrink,
which
means
there
was
it
wasn't
disappearing
and
I
like
they'll
shop
at
all.
The
local
businesses.
Dakota
butcher
is
one
of
my
favorite
places
to
go
so
you
know
I
feel
that
we
should
have
a
fair
shot
on
the
liquor
business,
just
like
anybody
else.
O
O
H
Hello,
my
name
is
Melanie
morrow
and
I,
don't
own
a
business
and
I'm
not
with
Walmart
and
I'm,
not
with
Target,
but
I'm.
Just
a
citizen
and
I
guess
I
would
just
say
I
think
it
would
be
incredibly
convenient
to
be
able
to
buy
a
bottle
of
wine
at
the
Target
store
when
I'm
in
there,
as
opposed
to
having
to
stop
my
car,
get
my
kids
out
or
leave
my
kids
in
and
go
to
a
liquor
store
to
buy
a
bottle
of
wine
to
take
home
for
supper.
When
I
first
moved
to
town.
H
20-Some
years
ago
my
mother
came
to
visit.
She
was
shocked
that
you
she
said,
let's
just
go,
buy
a
bottle
of
wine
and
I
said
you
can't
get
in
watertown.
I,
don't
know
where
you
get
a
bottle
of
wine
and
I
was
shocked
to
that
find
out
that
they
were
only
at
the
liquor
stores.
I've
lived
in
cities
all
over
I've
lived
in
Arizona
Illinois,
South,
Dakota
I've
never
been
in
a
city
where
you
couldn't
buy
wine
or
beer
at
a
grocery
store
at
a
store,
so
I
would
just
say
in
favor
of
it.
A
If
not
I'm,
getting
ready
to
close
the
public
hearing,
sure
there's
nobody
else
to
Tim.
Did
you
want
to
say
anything?
Nope,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
close
the
public
hearing
at
this
time.
I
am
going
to
look
for
the
council
to
give
me
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion
purposes.
So
I
have
a
motion
by
Bruce
second
by
Beth,
and
now
I
will
open
the
discussion.
So
anybody
has
any
questions.
Now
is
your
opportunity
on
the
on
the
council
mayor.
R
A
Q
Are
correct?
We
have
some
options
that
we
can
look
at
I
mean
we
have
an
inline
option
that
would
be
right
out
in
the
aisles,
such
as
a
Brooking
store.
If
any
of
you
have
shopped
that
store,
and
then
we
would
have
the
subway
up
front
that
we
could
put
it
in
there.
We'd
also
have
up
in
our
front
checkout
it's
kind
of
where
our
tobacco
is
sold.
We'd
have
magazines
up
there
right
now.
We
could
block
that
off
and
get
it
in
there
as
well.
A
A
A
Place
just
kind
of
one
of
those.
This
is
target
yes
and
we're
going
to
focus
back
on
on
target,
but
you
mentioned
that
and
I
just
wanted
to
to
make
sure
how
that
works
was
I,
don't
know
if
target,
if
you
would
be
willing
to
look
at
something
of
the
same.
Thank
you
folks,
I
appreciate
you
being
there
that.
A
I
I
We
do
have
a
remodel
slotted
anticipated
within
the
next
year,
where
we
would
have
that
built
into
that
remodel
plan,
but
for
what
we're
looking
to
establish
right
now
for
a
merchandise
standpoint,
it's
a
pretty
small
small
scale
and
it
would
be
kind
of
a
temporary
still
blocked
off,
but
a
temporary
solution,
and
then
that
would
be
implemented
in
the
new.
In
the
new
plan.
P
P
P
Don't
they
really
don't
care
one
way
or
the
other,
but
I
have
had
a
lot
of
people
voiced
concerns
with
it,
especially
when
it's
down
aisle
three
I
will
tell
you
that
that
has
been
a
big
issue
that
it's
right
out
in
the
middle
of
the
store
somewhere
in
a
store
anywhere
in
the
store,
I've
gotten
a
pretty
significant
feeling
that
people
just
aren't
in
tune
with
that.
If
there's
a
consideration,
I
think
it
should
be
a
dedicated,
isolated
area.
I'd
really
don't
have
a
strong
preference
that
you
have
to
walk
out
of
the
building.
P
A
T
S
U
U
You
know
in
doing
some
research
on
the
authority,
the
innate
authority
that
the
City
Council
has
there
is
provision
in
statute
where
the
City
Council
can
pass
certain
laws
regarding
alcohol
that
do
not
conflict
with
state
law,
but
also
sort
of
fill
in
some
of
the
gaps.
Now
you
might
have
recalled
at
a
work
session
here
previously,
where
I
mentioned
that
you
know
creating
these
laws
for
licensing
purposes,
so
setting
out
unique
licensing
requirements
can
be
problematic
because
of
the
discretionary
act.
That
is
this
hearing,
where
you
sort
of
cut
people
off
from
licensing
purposes.
U
G
U
Basically,
what
this
language
is
saying
is
that
you
can
adopt
ordinances,
that
regulate
alcohol
consistent
with
title
35
and
what
the
South
Dakota
Supreme
Court
has
gone
on
to
say
to
describe.
That
is
that
so
long
as
it
doesn't
conflict
that
you
would
be
able
to
adopt
that
so
in
this
circumstance
there
isn't
any
provision
that
would
explicitly
conflict.
We
have
statutes,
for
instance,
that
separate
off
certain
portions
of
an
on
sale
establishment
from
a
restaurant
depending
upon
the
type
of
on
sale
establishment.
U
A
U
A
T
U
G
D
U
Is
correct,
as
I
explained
at
the
work
session
last
time,
the
the
focus
here
is
on
the
applicant
and
the
location
of
the
sale.
So
we
already
have
the
the
I
believe
it
was
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
look
at
the
physical
location
for
zoning
purposes.
There's
also
a
consideration
about
where
the
alcohol
would
then
be
located
within.
So
there
are
multiple
facets
to
location.
There's
also,
like
I,
said
the
concern
about
the
applicant.
So,
on
those
grounds
you
can
approve
or
disapprove
is.
D
U
The
standard
by
which
the
circuit
court
would
review
an
appeal
from
your
decision,
so
somebody
challenges
it.
Who
would
go
to
the
circuit
court?
The
standard
is
arbitrary
and
capricious.
So
the
question
is,
you
know:
would
your
decision
appear
to
be
arbitrary,
based
upon
decisions
that,
based
upon
the
facts
based
upon
what
you've
relied
upon
as
as
a
body
to
Brender
your
decision?
It's
a
very
generous
standard
for
your
decision
making.
U
But
you
know,
as
I
pointed
out
in
that
work
session,
there
was
a
case
where
it
was
a
colorable
question,
whether
a
City
Council
acted
arbitrarily
and
capriciously
by
taking
two
licenses
one
after
the
other
before
the
body
and
one
being
approved
with
very
similar
characteristics
and
the
other
being
disapproved,
and
the
court
was
unable
to
discern
what
distinguished
the
two.
So
insofar
as
it
comes
to
making
more
decision,
you
know
it's
important
to
have
the
facts
to
have
the
right
facts
in
terms
of
setting
a
precedent.
U
P
But
that
would
have
to
be
quite
clear,
though:
wouldn't
it
that
is
correct,
counselor
I
mean,
let's
just
use
the
two
people
out
of
a
spoke
out
here.
You
got
Walmart
and
you
got
Target
if
we
approve
all
Target
tonight
in
some
man
or
whatever
those
conditions
are
I'm,
not
sure
how
you
would
deny
Walmart
under
those
same
conditions,
because
I
would
think
consistency
is
something
that
should
be
expected
of
us
and
something
that
we
would
expect
of
ourselves
in
making
these
decisions,
so
I
would
I
would
say.
V
What
that's
going
to
tell
those
kids-
and
it
seems
to
me,
like
Janelle-
alluded
to
it
and
I
think
that
chief
mcpeak
alluded
to
it
that
it's
just
going
to
be
more
of
the
same
thing
that
these
kids
are
getting.
Is
that
we're
going
down
the
slope
where
it's
easier
to
easier
to
do
these
things
it's
easier
to
get
involved
in
them
and
I
think
that's!
It
just
continues
to
be
more
dangerous,
all
the
time
for
our
kids
and
we
know
that
it's
hard
for
them
now.
V
The
other
part
I
think
chief
McPeake
said
about
supervising,
and
you
know
the
somebody
goes
in
and
buys
beer
or
wine,
for
you
goes
out
in
the
parking
lot
and
you've
got
spacious
parking
lot
at
Target.
You've
got
a
spacious
parking
lot
at
Walmart
and
it's
easy
to
make
that
transition
and
very
difficult
for
the
police
to
monitor
it,
as
opposed
to
at
one
of
the
local
liquor
stores,
where
that
is
the
probably
the
only
thing
open
at
10
o'clock
or
9
o'clock
at
night.
V
So
it
makes
it
more
difficult
for
the
police
to
monitor
that
kind
of
passing
it
out
to
others
now.
Can
they
go
down
the
block
to
down
the
street
2
blocks,
of
course
so,
but
it
does
make
it
easier
for
them
and
I
think
it's
just
it's
just
giving
them
more
and
more
and
I
know
Kelly.
We
spoke
many
many
times.
T
T
No
because
it's
after
the
hours,
it's
a
whole
different
thing
when
it's
in
a
different
spot
and
I
just
make
one
comment
to
the
one-stop
shop
comment:
is
it
also
by
being
that
type
of
business
there's,
obviously
more
minors
that
are
going
to
that
type
of
business?
I
would
look
at
it
if
it
was
in
a
different
look
in
a
separate
location
and
I.
T
Don't
agree
that
needs
to
be
in
a
separate
exterior
entrance,
but
it'd
be
like
going
into
the
mall
and
if
there's
a
liquor
store
a
separate
liquor
store
within
the
mall
people
couldn't
come
and
go
buy
that
but
they're
not
going
into
kids
and
that
are
not
going
into
that.
So
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
have
breached
the
process,
but
I
would
be.
I
would
be
okay
with
the
idea
as
long
as
it
would
be
established
in
a
separate
space
other
than
that
I
would
have
a
problem.
You.
S
Know
if
we're
gonna
vote
on
this
tonight,
we
don't
know
what
those
parameters
are.
We
don't
have
anything
in
place
that
says
we
want
this
this
or
that
we
don't.
We
don't
know
that
so
are
we
just
gonna
say
we
need
something
enclosed.
That
can
mean
a
lot
of
things.
You
know
so
I
think
we
got
to
think.
A
W
I
visited
with
I'm
kind
of
like
Mike
I
visited
with
many
many
people
over
the
last
couple
weeks
over
this,
and
it's
kind
of
mixed
I
would
say
that
and
not
put
him
on
the
line
back
there.
But
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
his
officers,
I
kind
of
went
past,
the
higher-ranked
they
would
find
that
this
would
be
very,
very
hard
to
enforce.
I
mean
they've
already
got
enough
things
in
their
hands
to
do
right
now.
W
You
know
we
got
a
lot
of
problems
on
our
streets
nowadays
and
we're
just
we're
just
handing
the
Police
Department
a
whole
lot
more
to
enforce,
so
I
would
be
yeah
and
I.
Think
most
people
I
visited
with
were
the
same
way.
They
would
just
one
see
our
police
officers
doing
better
things
and
then
trying
to
do
stings
on
another,
because
this
could
open
up
a
big
can
of
worms.
I
mean
we
get
it
easily
have
another
30
places
that
are
selling
beer
and
wine.
So.
P
The
question
then
becomes:
are
we
going
to
if
that's
the
feeling,
Randy
and
I
you
understand
where
you're
coming
from,
but
so
our
the
next
person
that
comes
up
and
wants
to
open
a
liquor
store?
Are
we
going
to
deny
them
or
they
want
to
open
up?
Are
we
gonna
just
put
a
cap
on
where
alcohol
can
be
sold
in
our
community,
for
the
very
reasons
that
you
just
described.
P
R
V
A
When
I
do
believe
Justin,
you
may
want
to
help
me
out
on
this.
What
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
having
an
end
cap.
If
target
wanted
to
come
back
and,
let's
just
say
they
were
denied
tonight,
if
they
wanted
to
come
back
and
say,
we
want
to
open
up
a
specific
enclosed
area
within
the
store.
They'd
have
every
right
to
come
and
ask
us
that
again
in
my
crack
that.
P
B
X
U
P
R
P
I
just
find
it
hard
pressed
it
to
deny
it
if
we
put
the
conditions
that
we
have
used
in
the
past,
which
seemed
reasonable
and
that
is
to
have
an
isolated
area
and
isolation.
Brew
certainly
is
subject
to
to
some
definition,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
we
would
deny
that
if
it
was
a
separate
entrance
in
a
separate
location
and
not
where
the
minors
are
working
and
the
minors
have
access
to.
P
Does
that
does
the
request
our
restrictions
on
it
tonight?
Does
that
does
the
request
ask
for
it
to
be
sold
within
the
body
of
the
store
meaning
at
an
end
cap?
Is
that
a
detail
that's
within
it
or
is
it
it's
not
it's
to
sell?
We
can
put
the
conditions
on
it.
We
heard
tonight
from
Tim
that
it's
on
an
end
cap
right
basically.
B
P
U
What
you
are
sending
to
the
state
is:
what's
on
the
face
of
this
application
now
in
terms
of
enforcing
that
further,
once
target
comes
up
for,
if
you
were
to
approve
it,
if
target
came
up
for
a
renewal
the
next
year
and
they
did
not
comply
with
the
terms
that
you
would
put
in
place
to
basically
prove
it
on
your
end,
you
could
potentially
assert
that
as
grounds
for
for
while
I'd
be
disapproving
the
renewal.
So.
Y
A
G
U
To
clarify
mayor
the
way
that
the
statute
reads
has
t
CL,
35
two
1.2
provides
that
the
governing
body
may
approve
or
disapprove
the
application
for
a
new
retail
license
or
the
transfer
of
an
existing
license,
depending
on
whether
the
governing
board
deems
the
applicant
a
suitable
person
to
hold
the
license
and
whether
the
governing
board
considers
the
proposed
location
suitable
and
quote
so
looking
at.
What's
in
the
application
is
one
way
of
conceptualizing
location,
but
given
targets
plans,
you
have
another
idea
of
what
location
means
to
them.
J
J
U
Sdc
l35
2
5.1
refers
to
that.
If
the
Governing
Board
of
the
municipality
or
County
does
not
approve
the
application,
the
governing
board
shall
endorse
on
the
application
the
reasons
for
the
denial
and
return
the
application
and
fee
to
the
applicant.
No
further
application
may
be
received
from
the
applicant
until
after
the
expiration
of
one
year
from
the
date
of
a
denied
application.
U
However,
if
the
application
was
denied
based
on
the
suitability
of
the
location
for
the
license,
no
further
application
may
be
received
from
the
applicant
until
after
the
expiration
of
3
months
from
the
date
of
the
denied
application
only
if
the
application
is
for
a
different
location.
So
what
this
means
is
that,
given
the
the
potential
grounds
for
location
being
a
concern,
it
could
be
remedied
within
3
months.
The
application
could
be
brought
back
here.
A
A
For
special
retail
malt
beverage
and
wine
license
to
Lake
area
Zoological
Society
from
5:00
p.m.
until
10
p.m.
on
Friday
June
23rd
of
2017
at
the
bramble
Park
Zoo.
At
this
particular
time,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
If
there's
anybody
wants
to
speak
in
favor
up
or
against
this,
this
is
your
opportunity.
G
Thank
you,
my
name's
Stan
Lam
I
wasn't
planning
on
speaking
on
this
because
I
wasn't
aware
of
it
on
the
agenda,
but
I
feel
that
for
me
to
come
here
and
speak
against
the
previous
matter,
that
I
would
have
to
speak
against
this
one.
Also,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
some
of
the
comments
that
were
made
has
to
do
with
with
the
youth
and
what
now
I'm
not
sure
what
does
what
the
Zoological
Society
is
going
to
do
at
this
meeting.
A
G
Okay,
well,
that's
that's
good,
but
with
that
in
mind,
we're
teaching
whatever
we
do
we're
teaching
somebody
something-
and
here
we're
teaching
the
youth
that
see
this-
that
we
can't
get
together
and
have
an
enjoyable
time
for
a
good
cause
without
having
act,
alcohol
present
and
that
that's
the
that's.
The
point
that
I
have
is
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
get
together
with
I
would
have
any
alcohol
and
promote
a
good
cause
for
the
sake
of
the
cause,
not
because
there's
alcohol
there
so
I
wouldn't
encourage
you
to
disapprove.
This
particular
thing
thing.
P
G
P
That
I
don't
know
what
to
say
because
I
sit
there
and
I
look
what
we've,
what
we've
just
voted
on
and
the
reasons
for
it
and
then
because
it
will
benefit
the
Zoological
Society
to
raise
money
or
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
to
raise
money.
We're
gonna
allow
that,
and
that
seems
completely
hypocritical.
No.
T
J
And
it's
a
one-time
event,
not
an
ongoing
sales
of
of
liquor.
I
do
hope
that
I
guess
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
out
of
line
saying
this
I
do
hope.
Target
comes
back
to
us
with
something
but
I
believe
that
it's
a
one-time
event
that
we're
not
looking
at
approving
something
that
sells
liquor
an
ongoing
basis
forever
and
ever
it's
a
one-time
thing.
So.
A
Hearing
none
I
am
going
to
look
for
council
action.
All
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
six
application
for
a
special
retail
malt
beverage
and
wine
license
to
the
Watertown
Area
Chamber
of
Commerce
from
5:00
p.m.
on
Friday
July
14th
of
2007.
Until
7:00
p.m.
on
Saturday
June
15th
of
2017
at
stoke
Thomas
Park
I
do
want
to
before
I
open
the
public
hearing.
I
wanted
to
have
a
con
Justin
I,
wasn't
sure
if
you're
gonna
ditch
me
or
what
yeah.
U
A
U
U
There
was
a
person
in
the
community
who
were
called
seeing
an
article
in
the
Watertown
public
opinion
and
from
what
I
gather
it
was
sort
of
a
retrospective
of
like
sort
of
this
day
in
X
year,
where
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
land
that
was
deeded
for
City
Park,
coming
with
certain
conditions,
what
we
determine
the
legal
profession
reversionary
interests.
Basically,
if
the
land
is
conveyed
with
a
reversionary
interest
and
that
interest
or
stipulation
on
the
deed
isn't
followed.
U
So
basically,
I
want
to
give
this
land
to
the
city
for
X
purpose,
Park
purposes
or
what-have-you.
If
the
city
doesn't
follow
that,
depending
upon
language,
the
land
interest
reverts
back
to
the
party
that
donated
it
to
the
city
or
sold
it
for
that
matter.
Well,
this
inquiry
forced
me
to
do
some
title
research,
which
is
always
interesting
and
came
across
these
three
parcels.
U
This
is
basically
how
the
land
that
became
Thomas,
Stokes
Park
was
given
over
to
the
city
and,
as
you
can
see,
probably
not
terribly
well
there
at
the
bottom,
we
have
a
color
coded
system.
The
first
parcel
is
the
northernmost.
The
second
was
the
orange
color.
The
third
in
time
was
the
green,
color
and
I
checked
each
one
of
those
deeds,
and
there
was
nothing
in
the
deeds,
except
on
this
first,
one
that
constituted
a
reversionary
interest
and
that
reversionary
interest
referred
trees
being
planted
and
cultivated
for
a
public
park.
Interestingly
enough,
the
mr.
U
Thomas
came
back
to
the
City
Council
in
1909,
complaining
about
the
fact
that
the
city
had
not
yet
planted
trees
on
that
parcel
and
basically
told
them
hey.
If
you
don't
do
that,
I'm
gonna,
take
it
back,
so
the
City
Council,
obviously
obliged
them
and
the
rest
is
history,
but
that
particular
provision
that
are
that
public
opinion
article
referred
to
the
Fisk's,
which
would
have
been
the
1922
transfer
and
there
the
public
opinion.
U
Article
said
that
this
land
was
conveyed
on
the
condition
that
it
would
be
used
for
park
purposes
and
no
alcohol
would
be
sold
on
the
premises.
Well.
Number
one
for
the
purposes
of
tonight
and
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
the
alcohol
is
going
to
be
sold
in
this
area.
Is
that
correct
number
one
number
two
I
checked
the
deed
and,
like
I
said,
there's
no
reversionary
interest
on
the
face
of
it,
but
also
more
to
the
point.
U
This
deed
was
transferred
in
1922
and,
as
you
all
know,
there
was
a
certain
amendment
that
lasted
a
certain
period
of
time
in
our
US
Constitution
that
had
something
to
say
about
alcohol
use.
So
the
fact
that
at
that
time
we
had
prohibition-
and
it
would
have
been
rather
curious
to
have
then
a
reversionary
interest
when
that
was
thought
to
be
the
law
of
the
land
for
the
foreseeable
future.
So
anyways
all
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
the
person
in
the
you
know
from
the
public
who
brought
this
concern
to
us.
A
Z
Good
evening,
Megan
Olsen
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
and
we
are
before
you
again
actually
with
two
applications
tonight,
the
first
one
Cook
competi.
Second
one
is
white
walk,
so
I
would
entertain
any
questions.
This
is
standard
operating
procedure
from
for
us
same
hours
of
operation,
same
drill
as
we
go
through
each
year.
With
this
annual
event,
I
think.
A
What
I'll
do
Megan,
if
there's
nobody
else
that
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
it
I
would
I
would
still
allow
them
to
come
up
now.
If
there's
nobody
else,
then
I
will
close
the
public
hearing,
so
I
will
close
that
at
this
particular
time,
I'm
going
to
look
for
counsel,
a
motion
and
a
second
don't.
W
W
Z
Z
Area
is
actually
enclosed
by
high-tech
orange
snow
fence.
That's
how
we
do
it
in
South,
Dakota
and
everybody
that
comes
through.
We
actually
have
a
weak
heart
program
and
our
volunteers
are
trained
to
read
those
IDs.
We
actually
have
an
electric
scanner
now
that
goes
through
and
make
sure
that
there
are
legitimate
ID
validates
the
age
on
there.
Everybody
wears
a
wristband,
and
so
they're
actually
checked
twice
before
they're
able
to
purchase
anything.
What.
Z
W
Z
T
V
Can't
we
can't
cover
the
fact
that
the
kids
are
going
to
see
that
okay,
but
from
a
police
standpoint,
what
what
happens
so
you
can
assure
us
his
best
of
your
knowledge
that
kids
aren't
allowed
to
drink.
Under-21
aren't
allowed
I
mean
it's
bad
enough,
maybe
that
they're
seeing
it.
But,
secondly,
do
you
have
a
lot
of
people
out
there
to
supervise
that
or
what
what
is
real
thing
with
helping
to
restricting
or
kids
in
taking
part.
X
Z
A
X
A
Number:
seven
application
for
a
special
retail
malt
beverage
and
wine
license
through
the
Watertown
Area
Chamber
of
Commerce
from
5
p.m.
until
8
p.m.
on
Thursday
June,
the
8th
2017
for
the
wine
walk
event.
At
this
time,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
again.
If
someone
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
this,
this
is
your
opportunity.
Z
Is
the
second
year
we've
done
this
event
and
to
give
you
sort
of
an
overview
each
of
the
businesses
downtown
I
think
we
have
25
participating
this
year
between
that
5
and
8
time
period.
They
can
go
in
and
actually
sample
their
one
ounce
samples.
So
it's
a
controlled
pore
and
they
can
go
in.
The
idea
is
yes,
the
wine
is
great
getting
people
to
come
out
but
to
try
to
get
folks
into
those
downtown
businesses
and
maybe
experience
inside
those
stores
if
they
haven't
had
a
chance
to
stop
in
that's
the
real
premise.
Z
A
P
Z
Y
A
Any
other
questions,
hearing
none
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
Thank
You,
Megan
number
8.
Second
reading
of
ordinance
number
17,
2,
3
I'm
in
zoning
district
boundaries
by
rezoning,
a
portion
or
River
Ridge
Estates
addition
from
a1
agriculture
district
to
r1,
single-family
residential
district.
At
this
time,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
If
there's
anyone
wants
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
this,
this
is
your
opportunity.
A
Yes,
I
thought
you
were
all
getting
up
to
talk
about
this
one
yeah.
What's
the
what's
a
deal
yeah?
What's
with
that?
So
if
there's
no
one
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
or
against
this
I
will
close
the
public
hearing,
I'm
gonna,
look
for
a
motion.
A
second
for
discussion,
then
we'll
turn
it
over
Shane
wish
my
mic.
Second
bye,
Dan,
Shane
I'll
turn
this
over.
You
Thank.
AA
You
mayor
engineers
must
be
boring.
You
know
we'll
get
back
to
the
normal
part
of
the
meeting.
I
guess,
city
staff
did
receive
a
petition
from
Greg
Hoff
teaser
acting
agent
for
High
Plains
Development
Corporation.
This
is
essentially
a
the
next
addition
to
River
Ridge
Estates.
If
my
screen
is
up
on
the
feedback,
the
area
hatched
in
red
stripes
is
the
area
to
be
reasoned.
AA
H
AA
AA
S
AA
A
Hearing
none
I
will
look
for
counsel
action.
All
those
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
thank
you.
Shane
number,
nine
in
ordinance,
number
1718
amending
section.
Nineteen
point:
zero,
four:
zero:
three
other
revised
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Watertown
requiring
parallel
and
diagonal
parking
on
certain
downtown
streets.
At
this
time
or
I'm
sure
this
is
a
second
reading
and
I
would
look
for
a
motion
as
a
second
for
further
discussion
push
my
Bruce
second
by
Don
Justin.
You
want
to
analyst.
U
Absolutely
mayor,
thank
you.
These
are
a
series
of
ordinances,
you'll,
see
going
down
the
agenda
that
relate
to
parking
and
really
what
they
are
meant
to
be
is
sort
of
a
housekeeping
as
well
as
a
sort
of
public
facing
change.
This
first
ordinance
relates
to
parking
spaces
in
the
Uptown
area.
Currently
we
have
an
ordinance
these
various
streets
denoted
as
being
four
diagonal
for
what
is
essentially
parallel,
even
though
they
describe
it
as
tandem
in
this
ordinance.
U
What
this
change
does
is
it
basically
gets
rid
of
those
provisions
and
goes
with
what
we
already
have
in
ordinance.
Is
the
authority
for
the
city
to
mark
parking
spaces,
be
the
diagonal
or
parallel
or
if
they
aren't
marked,
they
are
simply
parallel.
The
thought
being
that
this
layout
described
here
in
ordinance
is
quite
antiquated
and
to
make
the
changes
to
reflect
existing
parking
spaces.
We
would
have
to
go
in
and
make
changes
every
single
time.
U
The
request
from
business
owners
to
change
a
parking
orientation
is
made,
so
instead
we'll
just
go
with
the
existing
Authority
that
allows
the
city
to
mark
the
spaces
because,
quite
frankly,
I
think
it's
fair
to
say.
Folks
aren't
looking
to
ordinance
to
see
how
to
park
they're.
Looking
at
what
the
lines
on
the
street
say
point
to.
A
Any
questions
for
progestin
on
this
and
we've
gone
through
this
innumerous
times.
If
not
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
number
10,
ordinance,
number
17,
2
1
am
any
section.
Nineteen
point:
zero:
four
zero
one
and
repealing
section.
Nineteen
point:
zero:
four
one:
three
of
the
revised
owners,
so
the
city
of
Watertown,
to
clarify
the
definition
of
parallel
parking.
Yes,
so
this
again
is
second
reading.
I
will
look
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion.
Motion
by
Randy
second,
by
Dan,
go
ahead,
Justin
more.
U
Parking
mayor,
the
first
provision
there
defines
parallel
parking
in
our
ordinances
and
applies
in
a
number
of
areas
elsewhere
in
our
ordinances.
The
problem
with
that
parallel
parking
definition
was
that
it
read
three
feet
of
the
front
door
or
rear
of
any
other
vehicle,
basically
anything
closer
than
that
would
not
constitute
parallel
parking.
U
The
problem,
of
course,
being
that
three
feet
from
the
front
door
of
any
vehicle,
but
if
put
you
know,
parallel
or
perpendicular
to
the
vehicle,
would
have
it
on
top
of
the
vehicle
if
next
to
the
vehicle,
it
wouldn't
make
any
sense
either.
That
would
not
be
parallel
parking,
so
this
is
just
clarified
to
make
it
three
feet
of
the
front
or
rear
of
any
vehicle,
meaning
three
feets
space
between
the
front
and
rear
would
be
our
parallel
parking
definition.
U
The
second
part
gets
rid
of
the
tandem
parking
definition
made
reference
to
that
in
the
prior
ordinance,
the
tandem
parking
definition.
There
is
basically
a
large
gapped
parallel
parking
definition.
Eight
feet
is
how
it's
defined
in
ordinance,
of
course,
as
I
mentioned
before,
tandem
parking
as
a
common
definition
does
not
match
this
one.
The
internationally
recognized
definition
of
tandem
parking
is,
when
you
have
two
vehicles
in
essentially
in
one
parking
spot.
One
vehicle
has
to
move
for
the
other
to
get
out.
U
A
Any
questions
for
Justin
on
this
one
here,
none
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carried
turning
the
page
number
11.
First
reading
of
ordinance,
number
17,
22
amending
section;
eighteen
point:
zero,
one:
zero
one
and
twenty
one
point:
six:
five:
zero
one
to
exempt
contractors,
trailers,
shipping
trailers
and
moving
trailers
from
certain
parking
provisions.
Justin.
You
want
to
fill
us
in.
What's
going
on,
certainly.
U
U
But
there
is
an
exception
for
vehicles
that
are
larger,
that
unload
personal
merchandise
and
the
personal
property
of
an
abutting
resident.
The
thought
there
being
that,
if
it's
okay
for
say
a
UPS
or
USPS
to
unload,
then
for
a
temporary
period
of
time
than
the
large
vehicles
that
folks
move
into
and
out
of
houses
with,
should
also
receive
some
similar
treatment.
U
There
is
now
actual
black
letter
stating
this
policy,
as
opposed
to
just
the
administrative
internal
policy
of
enforcing
that
provision.
As
for
2160
501
really
hear
what's
being
removed,
is
the
one
provision
subpart
10
that
deals
with
on
street
parking
on
street
parking
is
definitely
under
the
city's
police
power
authority
to
regulate
not
its
zoning
Authority.
Zoning
Authority
would
relate
to
off
street
parking,
which
is
what
a
majority
of
this
provision
is,
so
that
has
effectively
been
removed
there
and
taken
up
into
18
point
Oh
101.
A
Any
other
questions
for
Justin
on
this.
Okay,
now
I
move
forward
number
12,
a
resolution,
transferring
city
water
real,
prop
real
property,
corresponding
to
a
portion
of
the
old
water
ton
rec
center
to
the
water
town
school
district
14,
for
there
are
supporting
documents
that
came
with
this.
What
I'll
do
Justin
is
I'm
going
to
look
for
a
motion,
a
second
for
discussion
motion
by
best,
second,
by
Mike
and
just
I'll.
Let
you
start
this
up.
U
Thank
You
mayor
I
had
to
make
move
over
here
because
I
wanted
to
provide
the
legal
description
that
goes
in
where
that
highlighted
portion
exists
on
your
drafts.
Make
sure
that
the
public
sees
it
as
well
real
quick.
It
was
through
the
hard
work
of
Roger,
swen
and
folks
with
their
engineering
department.
U
Specifically,
we
have
the
aerial
view
here.
What
we're
talking
about
is
essentially
everything
in
that
red
portion.
What
that
comes
out
to
be
is
nearly
all
of
arena
lot
1,
except
for
5
feet
that
goes
into
arena
lot.
1
approximately
in
this
location
and
I'll,
give
you
a
better
breakdown
of
that
our
one
half
interest
that
we
share.
U
We
have
undivided
one-half
interest,
the
school
and
the
city
in
lot
a
here
and
then
this
portion
of
lot
B,
which
the
city
owns
entirely
so
the
city
owns
arena
lot,
one
entirely
lot
B
entirely
and
one
half
of
lot
eight,
but
everything
in
the
red
is
what
would
be
conveyed
by
this
resolution
to
the
school
district.
What
remains
outside
here
in
the
northern
portion,
which
is
more
acting
well
more
clearly
described
up
here,
is
what
the
boys
and
girls
club
plans
on
having
as
their
piece
of
the
property.
U
It
would
include
their
expansion
plans
as
well
as
parking
for
their
their
facilities
use.
So
the
way
the
resolution
reads
is
twofold:
state
law
provides
for
the
gratuitous
transfers
of
property
between
political
subdivisions
like
the
municipality
and
the
school
district,
just
based
upon
resolution.
So
long
as
there
are
certain
findings,
as
laid
out
in
the
warehouse
clause,
the
public
purpose,
finding
the
fact
that
the
city
has
no,
you
know
no.
D
U
Longer
necessary
for
the
public
purpose
and
use
forage
for
which
it
was
acquired
by
the
city
and
as
specified
in
the
about
v,
where,
as
Clause
down,
that
purpose
was
hosting
city,
sponsored
recreation
and
wellness
activities.
So
that's
the
resolution
component.
There
is
an
exhibit
B
requirement
that
the
school
district
sign
and
waiver
and
indemnification
of
the
city
in
transferring
that
land
that
they
then
protect
us
hold
us
harmless
from
liability
that
might
arise
subsequent
to
the
transfer.
U
So
that's
a
real,
broad
brush
treatment
of
this.
The
reason
why
we
had
Roger
go
out
and
acted
so
aggressively
is
because
of
the
time
frame
that
the
school
district
has
for
its
its
refurbishing.
Its
portion,
we've
been
in
contact
with
the
school
district,
have
meetings
with
the
school
district
and
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
and
this
appears
to
all
parties
to
be
the
acceptable
break
down.
The
idea,
ultimately,
from
what
I've
been
told,
has
been
that
the
city
would
extricate
itself
from
all
ownership
interests
within
that
entire
block.
Within
that
entire
complex.
P
Area,
that's
showing
up
there
right
now,
though,
is
in
part
coal
owned
as
well
right.
There's
a
our
goal
is
to
get
that
cleaned
up,
also
and
then
long
term,
whatever
long
terms
defined,
as
is
to
eventually
get
hopefully
get,
it
turned
over
to
ownership
to
the
so
it's
taken
the
red
part
you
had
getting
our
ownership
out
of
there
yep
getting
full
ownership
of
the
area
you
just
had
up
there
in
the
city's
part
and
then
eventually
our
goal
would
be
to
turn
that
over
then
to
the
Boys
and
Girls.
That's.
U
Right
and
I
have
the
good
word
of
the
school
districts
representatives
that
you
know
that's
their
intention
as
well
that
we
collaborate
to
get
this
parcel
deeded
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
and
as
a
profit
part
of
that
process.
That
will
require
most
likely
a
platon
and
that
can
be
performed
on
this
particular
property.
Because,
as
I've
pointed
out,
we
have
three
Lots
they're
varying
interests
in
terms
of
ownership,
so
be
good
to
clean
up.
Justin.
U
Sdc
el
chapter
check,
yeah
SDC
el
chapter
6-5
not
only
refers
to
transfers
of
property
between
political
subdivisions
and
between,
but
it
also
refers
to
political
subdivisions
and
nonprofit
organizations.
There
are
slightly
different
provisions,
but
it's
really
pretty
much
substantively
the
same.
There's
one
section
that
applies
differently:
okay,.
A
A
S
A
A
D
P
P
A
Any
questions
hearing
none
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
14
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
an
easement
allowing
limited
city
access
to
a
portion,
a
private
property
adjacent
to
the
concession
stand
located
immediately
immediately
southwest
of
Stoke
Thomas
lake
city
park.
This
time,
I'll
look
for
a
motion
in
a
second
then
we'll.
Let
justin
explain
what's
going
on
here,
motion
by
bruce
second
by
glenn
justin.
If
you
want
to
take
this.
U
Thank
You
mayor,
so
many
of
you
might
recall
this
concession
stand
those
of
you
who
have
had
a
great
deal
of
history
in
Watertown,
it's
something
of
an
institution
from
what
I've
been
told.
I've,
obviously
not
been
around
long
enough
to
be
able
to
appreciate
it,
but
this
concession
stand
exists
on
the
southern
periphery
of
Thomas,
Stokes,
Park
and
I'm,
trying
to
pull
it
up,
Maps
on
Google
Maps
here.
Actually,
we
have
GIS
might
as
well
use
that.
Let's
see
here.
U
Okay,
here
we
are
right
next
to
casino
speedway.
Now,
if
you
bend
down
the
curve
you've
seen
this
concession
stand,
it
has
a
few
bollards
out
in
front.
It's
40
feet
long
by
about
20
feet
wide
and
what
this
GIS
depicts
here
is
the
lot
line
that
exists
now
going
back
and
looking
through
title
research
I
came
to
find
that
this
concession
stand
did
indeed
get
conveyed
with
this
parcel
of
land
for
quite
some
time
now.
U
I
mean
not
just
you
know,
insofar
as
it's
within
the
right-of-way,
but
that
we
can
had
all
ownership
interests
in
it,
such
that
we
could,
as
the
city
do
with
it
as
we.
So
Chu
chose
have
it:
have
it
rented
out,
have
it
renovated?
Have
it
taken
down?
I
mean
there
are
multiple
options
here,
but
the
landowner
next
door
here
was
very
agreeable
in
order,
though,
to
accomplish
either
of
those
ends,
the
thought
was
that
there
needed
to
be
an
easement.
U
This
line
doesn't
show
accurately,
but
it
effectively
is
put
right
at
right
under
the
awning
just
to
the
north
and
west
of
this
building.
So
we
asked
for
a
ten-foot
easement
along
this
property
owners
line
and
that
would
allow
us
temporary
access
to
renovate
that
property,
or
in
the
case
of
needing
to
take
it
down,
it
would
allow
us
the
ability
to
temporarily
place
building
materials
there
to
then
get
it
removed
when
we
have
a
truck
available.
A
We're
doing
I
mean
I
think
what
house
do
here
is
I
will
get
a
motion.
A
second
do,
I,
have
it
already
well,
Justin
and
I
are
out
there
today,
and
this
thing
is
going
to
need
a
lot
of
work.
I
know
that
the
hole
up
in
the
in
the
meetings
that
we've
had
is
that
you
know
you
can
kind
of
bring
that
nostalgic
thing
back
and
you
can
have
ice
cream
sales
there
and
you
can
see
it
a
better
picture
on
the
on
the
screen.
A
It
needs
a
lot
of
work
we
could
not
get
inside.
It
was
locked
up
I,
they
are
conveying
that
to
the
city.
If
we
do
look
at
that
and
say
this
is
in
too
tough
a
shape,
we
could
just
take
it
down
and
get
rid
of
it.
We
do
have
the
other
house
in
City
Park.
That
would
make
probably
a
better
area
for
to
sell
pop
and
candy,
and
things
like
that
that
is
no
longer
being
used.
So
I
think
once
we
get.
A
U
There
there
are
to
go
off
of
what
councilman
Danforth
pointed
out.
There
are
certainly
liability
concerns
with
regard
to
having
it
in
the
right-of-way.
That
being
said,
there
aren't
too
many
more
liability
concerns
than
what
essentially
exists
right
now
with
it
being
in
the
right-of-way
and
with
us,
not
you
know,
as
the
city
going
in
and
taking
care
of
it.
So
this
right
now,
this
transaction
doesn't
really
improve
our
liability
situation
too
much,
but
it
does
clear
out
the
way
for
us
to
either
do
what
we
want
with
it
or
yeah.
A
A
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
15
consideration
of
bids
received
for
the
Watertown
storm,
shelter,
project,
I'm,
gonna,
look
Shane
I
want
to
get
a
motion
as
a
second
for
approval
on
this
and
then
we're
gonna
have
some
discussion
on
it.
So
I'll
look
for
that.
I
have
a
motion
by
Randy
and
a
second
by
Bruce
Shane.
If
you
want
to
work
on
this
for
us,
you
go
ahead.
Thank.
AA
You
mayor,
we
did
receive
bids
on
May
4
for
bids
were
received
for
the
Watertown
storm
shelter
project,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
screen
and
where
my
pool
cue
is
pointing
is
approximately
the
location
of
the
storm
shelter
in
that
location,
for
the
greater
area
is
adjacent
to
the
Anza
soccer
complex
along
17th
Street
southeast.
AA
The
intention
is
that
the
storm
shelter
would
function
as
shelter
for
both
the
Soccer
Complex,
the
softball
complex
and
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
Primarily,
the
trailer
court
to
the
north
was
be
a
primary
concern
for
those
folks
that
would
want
to
sheep
seek
shelter
during
a
storm
event.
This
would
be
available
to
them.
Our
project
estimate
was
two
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
AA
If
we
award
this
bid
as
accepted,
we
would
have
to
find
additional
funding.
We
do
have
a
hundred
and
sixty
eight
thousand
four
hundred,
approximately
in
FEMA
grant
funding
which
would
leave
the
remaining
portion
to
us
of
the
city
to
be
seventy
eight
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
the
there
is
some
room
visiting
with
the
architect
to
maybe
reduce
the
cost
of
this
facility.
AA
We
we
went
into
it
with
some
pretty
high-tech
locking
mechanisms
and
and
some
other
variances,
and
they
estimate
that
we
could
potentially
now
the
key
word
is
potentially
reduced
the
cost
by
up
to
twenty
thousand
dollars.
That
still
puts
us
a
little
bit
short
from
our
budget.
You
know
by
two
thousand
or
sold,
but
the
recommendation
is
to
award
and
then
negotiate
the
price
down,
but
we
would
have
to
recognize
that
we'll
have
to
come
up
with
additional
funding
somehow
now.
AA
Why
would
this
be
different
handled
differently
than
the
skate
park
which
we
just
requested
to
rebid,
because
it
only
had
it
also
exceeded
the
budget?
The
primary
differences
are
here
is
we
did
get
four
competitive
bids,
so
we
weren't
just
isolated
with
one
bid,
and
the
other
thing
is:
is
that
the
remedy
to
the
skatepark
was
to
do
in-kind.
Work
with
other
city
forces,
so
essentially
we
reduced
the
scope
of
the
project
on
the
skate
park.
Here
we
wouldn't
really
reduce
the
scope,
but
we
would
change,
say
the
style
of
the
lock.
AA
You
know
the
maybe
the
durability
of
a
doorway
or
in
this
case
we're
recommending
that
we
reduce
or
eliminate
the
benches
that
we're
going
to
put
in
there
so
there's
items
that
we
can
strip
out
of
this
thing
that
don't
change
the
scope
of
the
intended
building,
yet
the
cost
of
the
project.
That's
why
it's
being
viewed
differently
than
the
skatepark.
We
did
get
competitive
bids
and
we
do
have
the
ability
to
cheapen
the
project
up
by
accepting
some
different
products
within
it.
So
with
that
any.
A
AA
It
is
pretty
expensive
per
square
foot.
The
key
difference
is
this
is
a
gut
reinforcement
in
the
walls
to
withstand
an
f4
tornado,
which
you
know
quite
frankly,
virtually
no
structures
are
built
to
that
standard.
Within
this
part
of
the
world,
I
mean
there's
storm
rooms
within
buildings.
That
will
stand
it,
but
by
far
not
the
whole
entire
structure
is
usually
built
to
the
standard,
so
that
greatly
increases
the
cost.
These
blocks
are
gonna,
be
filled
with
concrete
and
rebar
to
hold
the
walls
upright.
AA
P
My
first
observation
on
this
is
when
this
started
became
discussion
with
us.
I,
don't
know,
probably
what
a
year
two
years
ago,
initially
it
seemed
like
this
thing
has
grown,
not
necessarily
in
its
size
but
in
the
grandeur
of
it.
So
to
speak.
Do
we
have
any
of
the
pictures
of
it
that
we're
showing
to
us
a
few
weeks
ago?
I,
don't.
P
Let's
keep
this
into
perspective
as
to
what
it
is.
It's
a
storm
shelter.
You
look
very
very
nice
to
me,
but
it
looked
overdone
to
me:
look
like
an
architect
had
some
extra
time
on
their
hands
and
put
extra
money
into
it.
As
just
my
opinion,
it
is,
it
seemed
like
we
started
off
with
a
storm
shelter
and
now
we've
got
some
architectural
piece
that
okay.
AA
So
we
did
have
some
add
alternates
in
there
councilman
that's
part
of
the
enhancement.
We
did
have
a
wall
inside
that
we
we
had
as
an
ad
alternate
to
potentially
separate
into
two
sections.
If
we
wanted
to
that,
I
would
not
recommend
award
four,
and
then
we
also
had
an
ad
alternate
to
do
the
more
expensive
finished.
AA
AA
A
Any
questions
from
the
council
because
it
seems,
like
you
know,
we're
building
this,
not
just
for
for
the
ball
diamonds
or
the
the
soccer
diamonds,
or
anything
like
that.
We're
really
building
this
over
there
for
the
for
the
all
the
homes
that
are
in
that
southeast
part
of
town.
You
know
there
are:
they
are
susceptible
to
storms,
they're,
all
in
trailer
homes,
they're
very
susceptible
to
them,
I
would
say
so
I'm
looking
for
any
kind
of
answers
or
questions
same.
AA
We
we
already
have
a
green
light
to
spend
money
and
we
do
have
I
guess
it's
an
all
open
and
fairness,
though
this
budget
here
only
addresses
the
physical
building
of
the
structure,
there's
still
fees
for
the
architects
fee
and
you
know
the
geotechnical
services.
What
would
also
be
in
addition,
so
there
there
are
some
additional
funds.
Besides
the
246
that
we
have
to
identify
as
associated
with
this
project,
I
believe
the
architectural
funds,
afire
I
believe,
was
around
six
thousand
dollars.
AA
R
AA
We
would
lose
the
grant
if
we
don't
spend
money
and
I
guess
you
know.
The
real
question
is:
do
we
wanna?
Do
we
have
a
budget
for
it
and
I
it?
Will
it
serve
its
purpose
and
I
think
the
purpose
answers
an
easy
one.
I
mean
it's
gonna,
be
the
safest
place
in
that
part
of
the
community
to
go,
seek
shelter,
I
I'll
tell
a
little
personal
story
when
I
first
moved
to
town
one
of
the
first
few
weekends
that
I
was
here.
A
AA
People
were
in
a
panic,
call
our
house
to
find
out
if
they
had
a
place
to
go,
seek
shelter
and
they
drove,
and
they
spent
that
storm
time
at
my
house
because
they
didn't
know
where
else
to
go,
and
so
that's
what
the
purpose
of
these
type
of
facilities
are
just
to
give
a
give
people
a
place
to
go
when
they
need
to.
So
that's
my
personal
story
on
storm
and
being
able
to
seek
shelter.
Yes,
so.
AA
Write,
for
instance,
we
did
a
we.
We
talked
about
mini
lock
mechanisms,
we
talked
about
a
remote
one
that
they
could
activate
from
the
police
department
or
a
fire
department.
We
talked
about
a
key
fob
where
everybody
that
has
a
key
to
open
the
police
department
would
also
have
the
same
key
fob
to
open
this
facility.
So
we've
looked
at
the
whole
genre
of
lock
mechanisms.
The
estimated
one
was
about
7,500
bucks.
AA
If
we
just
take
that
down
to
a
simple
deadbolt,
I
mean
we're
going
to
be
down
to
a
hundred
bucks,
so
there
are
savings
that
we
can
find
in
something
like
that.
Their
savings
that
we
can
find
in
some
of
the
signage
their
savings
to
find.
If
we
pull
out
the
benches
inside
the
thing
and
really
what
would
we
do?
AA
We
would
probably
fundraise
in
the
future
and
put
some
of
those
features
back
in
as
needed,
but
there
are
approximately
$20,000
of
refinements
that
we
could
do
to
the
hardware
here
and
maybe
get
this
a
little
more
more
palpable,
but
either
way.
You're
gonna
find
yourself
a
little
bit
and
want
of
some
funds.
Jane.
AA
R
A
T
AA
B
A
Any
other
questions:
okay,
I
will
look
for
council
action.
All
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carries
number
16
consideration
of
bids
received
for
the
asphalt
concrete
maintenance
project.
I
will
look
for
a
motion
as
second
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
Shane
motion
by
bill.
Second,
by
Dan
Shane,
you
go
ahead.
Okay,.
AA
AA
We
did
receive
multiple
bids
on
the
crack
ceiling
and
the
chip
seal,
but
only
a
single
bid
on
the
mill
and
overlay
staff
has
reviewed
the
bids
and
found
that
they
all
are
within
our
budget
parameters
that
we
expected
so
with
that
I
would
request
them
do
want
to
do
these
one
out
of
time.
Yes,
please,
okay,
so
the
first
one
would
be
scheduled
a
seal
coat.
Our
staff
recommendation
is
to
Ward
the
contract
project,
1714
Schedule
A
to
the
road
guy
construction
company
in
the
amount
of
one
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
thirty
seven
dollars.
AA
AA
A
P
A
Any
other
questions,
hearing
none
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carried
so
the
second
part
of
this
on
Schedule
B
I'll,
look
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
approval
of
Schedule,
B
and
I
have
a
motion
by
Bruce
and
second
by
bath
machine.
If
you
want
to
go
on
that,
okay.
AA
AA
AA
Then
there
is
the
portion
downtown
1st
Avenue
south
from
4th
Street
West
to
highway
81.
Then
another
segment
is
out
at
the
airport,
road
from
highway,
20
all
the
way
back
to
the
airport
terminal
and
then
the
entire
remaining
portion
of
summer
wood
edition
is
scheduled
for
paving
out
by
the
lake
and
those
are
relatively
small
areas
individually,
but
collectively
they
encompass
the
entire
budget.
A
AA
Thank
You
Mayor,
Schedule
C
for
crack
ceiling
is
being
awarded
to
highway
improvements
incorporated
in
the
amount
of
two
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand,
if,
if
so
approved,
that
work
is
in
conjunction
with
the
sealcoat
as
far
as
the
area,
so
some
of
that
crack
singh
will
be
done
in
advance
of
the
chip
seal
and
just
for
a
record.
I
didn't
tell
you
where
the
chip
seal
focus
was
this
year.
A
Any
questions
for
Shane
on
this
hearing:
none
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carried
number
17
consideration
of
bids
received
for
the
29th
Street
southeast
reconstruction
project.
I'll.
Look
for
a
motion,
a
second
for
discussion
pushed
by
Randy
second
bite
that
Shane.
If
you'll
take
this.
AA
Sorry
technology
anyway,
so
we
did
receive
bits
I'll
back
up
a
little
bit
normal
dude
introduction,
May
4th.
We
received
eight
bids
for
this
project.
That
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
interest
on
this
project.
We
did
receive
to
asphalt
bids
and
six
concrete
bids,
the
back
to
the
description
and
highway
212.
AA
This
is
south
to
just
below
south
of
13th.
Avenue
South
is
the
intended
project,
which
is
indicated
in
blue
shading
on
the
screen.
We
did
bid
alternate
sections.
We
bid
an
asphalt
section
which
was
six
inches
of
asphalt
pavement
and
we
bid
another
concrete
section
that
was
seven
inches
of
concrete
pavement
and,
like
I
said
this
brought
a
great
deal
of
interest
to
this
project.
We've
got
very
good
bids
on
both
sides
of
the
alternates,
and
so
with
that
I
did
reach
out
to
Clarke
engineering
and
had
them
help
me
crunch.
AA
The
data
and
come
up
with
a
life
cycle
cost
analysis.
To
some
extent,
we
didn't
go
into
a
huge
intricate
review,
but
kind
of
kept
it
a
little
bit
on
the
simple
side.
But
the
result
was
the
same
that
if
you
choose
asphalt
or
you
choose
concrete
the
per
year,
life
expectancy
dollars
are
pretty
darn,
close
I
mean
literally
within.
If
the
asphalt
pavement
lasted
25
years
and
the
concrete
pavement
lasted
twenty
thirty
years
there,
most
identical
I,
don't
expect
the
asphalt
to
last
25
years,
I'm
expecting
it
about
to
make
20
years.
AA
If
we
do
a
mill
and
overlay
somewhere
in
its
lifecycle,
so
they
aren't
apples
to
apples,
but
they
are
pretty
close.
It's
apples
to
apple
sauce
if
I
have
to
make
a
stab
at
it,
but
they
are
really
close
overall.
If
you
did
just
to
kind
of
put
in
perspective,
the
bottom
line
is
over
a
60
year
span.
We
would
think
that
we
would
have
to
replace
the
asphalt
pavement
three
times.
We
would
have
to
replace
the
concrete
pavement
twice
now.
AA
Both
asphalt
and
concrete
are
going
to
require
some
maintenance
work
throughout
the
life
of
the
pavements.
So
with
that,
I
don't
have
a
strong
recommendation
for
the
council.
I
can
accept
either
the
asphalt
bid
or
the
concrete
bid
and
I'll
leave
it
to
your
discretion
to
decide
how
we
bid
or
award
I
will
state
that
either
option
I
have
more
than
adequate
budget
to
cover
the
costs.
Jean.
AA
I'm
I've
been
there,
it's
not
very
old,
it's
built
in
2004,
so
it's
around
12
to
13
years
old.
Admittedly,
the
section
that
it
was
built
out
of
was
not
intended
to
handle
the
traffic
that
it's
seeing
today.
That's
why
it
fell.
Apart
sooner
it
was
a
four
inch
asphalt
or
11
inch.
Gravel
base
and
four
inches
of
asphalt
would
not
be
used
on
a
truck
bypass,
yeah.
W
P
AA
AA
History
shows
that
city
staff
and
we've
been
blessed
with
having
an
asphalt
contractor
in
town
that
it's
easier
for
us
to
maintain
an
asphalt
pavement
to
a
certain
extent.
We
don't
do
concrete
pavements.
Very
often,
however,
they
seem
to
last
forever.
Fourth
Avenue
Southwest
I
can't
tell
you
how
old
that
pavement
is,
but
it's
been
around
a
while
that
will
be
the
future
of
29th
Street.
AA
You
know
at
year,
30
to
40,
probably
now
I
also
have
been
talking
about
doing
a
partial
panel
replacement
down
on
4th
Avenue
to
prolong
its
life
even
longer,
so
we
did
in
our
life
cycle.
Cost
analysis
include
10%
panel
replacement
for
29th
Street.
If
we
toast
the
concrete
option,
the
older,
the
pavement
gets
the
more
panels
you
replace
it
is
a
little
bit
more
specialized
type
of
repair
than
a
milling
overlay
which
were
used
to,
but
it
can
be
done
and
they
can
be
prolonged
I.
AA
R
AA
AA
G
A
A
D
Have
a
hard
time
justifying,
at
this
point,
spending
next
113,000
granted
I
hear
we're
coming
from
a
Shan
but
suppose
something
better
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
would
be
obviously
comes
along
next
2025
years
that
that
might
you
know
drastically
change
what
we're
using
I
just
have
a
hard
time
into
justifying
spending
the
extra
dollars.
Now
when
something
possibly
might
come
along
down
the
road.
AA
We
hope
that
next
year's
model
is
better
than
this
year's
model,
but
so
we
in
essence,
I,
can't
predict
that
into
the
future.
But
he's
right
I
mean
the
bottom
line.
Question
is:
are
we
going
to
award
the
asphalt
bid
because
it's
the
lowest
bid,
or
are
we
going
to
hope
that
the
concrete
outperforms
it
and
invest
in
an
extra
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
dollars?
That's
the
base.
Question
I,
don't
have
a
super
magic
answer,
but.
A
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
throw
this
out
at
this
particular
time.
We've
had
conversation
about
Jackson
Park,
you
know,
and
one
of
the
things,
if
you
guys
remember,
Jackson
Park
was
coming
in
a
bit
higher
than
we
had
expected.
I
think
you
told
me
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
that
there's
an
opportunity
here
that
you
have
some
additional
dollars
from
the
from
these
bits
coming
in
so
well,
you
could
get
Jackson
Park
fixed
up
the
way
it
should
be
and
then
go
that
direction.
That's.
AA
That's
a
very
good
question:
I
could
look
for
a
couple
of
small
projects
that
can
maybe
pull
together,
but
right
now
this
was
the
budget
was
seven
hundred
thousand
for
this
project
and
it
was
my
intention
to
that.
I
build
a
project
that
would
I
thought
the
bids
would
come
in
closer
to
700,000,
so
I'm,
blessed
with
great
bids
and
I.
Don't
have
to
ask
you
for
more
money
to.
R
A
lot
of
times
we
see
an
asphalt
versus
concrete
is
the
traffic
count
issue
and
how
much
the
traffic's
gonna
grow.
Do
you
have
any
feel
for
that?
Gift-Wrap?
That's
a
busy
corner
with
the
south
connector
and
we
got
the
Willow
Creek
Drive
Hobby
Lobby.
What
have
you
if
traffic's
gonna
drastically
increase,
then
one
might
think
gee?
Maybe
we
should
do
the
concrete?
What
say
you
that's.
AA
AA
Trucks
to
use
the
bypass
for
both
deliveries
to
glacial
drink,
elation,
Alixe,
energy
and
fertilizer
plant
down
there
I
mean
that's
the
two
big
ones.
We've
got
max
steel
along
the
bypass
and
really,
quite
frankly,
anybody
that's
just
passing
by
to
head
west
to
Clark
and
beyond
they're
fools
if
they
don't
use
the
bypass
they
get
through
the
corridor
right.
T
A
R
E
H
A
A
A
Hearing
none
I'll,
look
for
council
action,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye,
aye,
opposed
aye
motion
carries
okay,
number
17
is
done.
Number
18
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
all
the
business.
Last
week
or
two
weeks
ago,
I
talked
about
the
automobile
I
was
on
the
the
radio
in
the
newspaper.
I
specifically
came
out
and
said
it
was
an
honest
mistake
that
I
made
that
I
had
the
car
and
put
it
in
the
in
the
mayor's
office.
A
I
guess
you
would
call
it
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
it
was
an
honest
mistake.
The
perception
that
it
looks
like
is
that
we're
trying
to
sneak
something
through
the
council.
The
council
really
never
took
a
vote
on
it.
It
was
never
in
the
budget
process.
If,
if
there's
anything,
that
is
is
wrong,
it
was
my
fault.
I
want
everybody
to
know
that
the
car
was
used
for
not
personal
business,
but
it
was
driven
from
the
the
office
to
my
home
back
and
forth.
A
There's
times
out
on
a
Saturday
or
Sunday
I
used
this
automobile
to
go
to
functions
ever
since
the
is
it
was
brought
up.
I
have
not
used.
The
vehicle
has
been
turned
over
to
the
police
department.
It
was
my
fault.
I
will
say
again
that
it
was
not
put
in
the
budget
process
if
in
the
future,
if
the
council
ever
decides
that
they
want
to
do
this,
since
there
was
no
policy
against
it,
there
was
no
policy
for
it.
A
I
would
recommend
that
there
is
a
policy
put
in
place
for
city
usage,
whether
whether
they
ever
decide
that
the
mayor's
office
should
have
an
automobile.
So
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
perception
looked
like
the
council
was
trying
to
to
hide
this.
The
council
really
I
think
nobody
really
paid
attention.
I
never
gave
it
to
two
thoughts
that
it
was
wrong.
You
know
we
we
go
through
that
policy.
We
go
through
the
budgeting
process.
Every
year
it
happened
in
2015.
A
The
police
department
got
four
cars,
I
said
Lee:
what's
the
chances
getting
a
car
to
drive,
he
says
sure,
so
the
car
came
over.
I
never
thought
about
it.
Nobody
ever
said
anything
about
it
other
than
until
just
recently
when
Don
brought
it
up
as
a
concern
from
constituent
that
that
came
in
front
of
him,
but
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
it
was
none
of
your
faults.
Everyone
here
had
no
I
mean
we
never
took
it
to
a
vote.
P
Have
a
question
and
I'm
not
sure
if
Rob
is
here
or
maybe,
but
you
know,
19th
Street
when
that
was
redone
a
couple
years
ago,
and
then
we
had
our
infamous
water
leak.
Where
are
we
at
now?
What
two
years
lay
almost
two
years
later
in
doing
me,
we
talked
about
grinding
that
down
and
getting
that
those
all
those
holes
repaired.
That.
AC
AA
AB
AA
AB
AA
S
R
R
We
had
a
meeting
with
the
mayor
and
the
Friday
before
the
council
meeting
and
then
we
had
a
meeting
that
the
morning
of
the
council
meeting,
Glen
and
I
Shelly
and
Justin,
and
the
result
of
that
council
inquiry
was
the
car
would
go
back
so
that
decision
was
made
via
the
council
inquiry
and
that
was
the
right
decision
and
I
appreciate
the
mare.
Doing
that
the
thing
I
don't
understand
is
it's
a
budget
issue.
R
A
And
I
don't
disagree
with
that
at
all.
You
know,
because
it
was
Justin.
I
would
like
you
to
to
touch
on
on
your
findings
and
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
just
open
it
up
and
say:
Shelly.
You
know
you
can
look
and
work
with
the
police
department
see
how
many
miles
were
put
on
that
thing.
For
you
know,
traveling
back
and
forth
to
to
my
house
certainly
willing
to
to
take
care
of
that,
but
Justin.
If
you
would
please
just
show
just
a
little
bit
about
them.
U
This
is
a
correspondence
that
was
sent
at
request
of
a
council
person,
and
this
is
what
I
had
typed
with
regard
to
this
particular
proceeding.
This
this
particular
concern
with
the
mayor's
vehicle
quote
to
be
clear:
no
policy
was
violated.
There
was
no
policy
that
hibbett
of
the
mayor's
actions
visa
Vivi
assigned
city
vehicle,
but
there
was
also
not
a
policy
that
authorized
the
mayor
to
obtain
an
assigned
city
vehicle
for
city
business.
Our
current
most
relevant
policies
attached
article
three
of
the
personnel
manual
notice.
U
The
first
paragraph
lays
out
the
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
of
compensation
for
the
mayor's
use
of
his
personal
vehicle
on
City
business
notice.
Also
that
article
thirteen
makes
no
reference
to
use
of
city-owned
vehicles
by
city
personnel
on
City
business.
We
are
planning
to
rectify
the
latter
in
our
personnel
policy
review
committee
this
year.
These
two
provisions
are
important.
They
do
not
prohibit
the
mayor
from
obtaining
a
surplus
vehicle
from
another
department,
nor
do
they
prohibit
the
mayor
from
using
a
city
vehicle
generally.
U
However,
the
fact
that
the
manual
uniquely
lays
out
the
treatment
of
the
mayor's
in
town
travel
arrangements
suggests
that
the
mayor's
vehicle
should
be
outlined
in
city
policy.
Those
that
raised
the
objections
from
the
City
Council
appeared
to
assert
that
the
mayor,
City
assigned
vehicle
use
should
be
in
policy
on
grounds
of
good
governance.
Given
the
power
of
the
mayoral
office,
it
is
not
a
requirement,
but
a
preference
based
on
a
high
ethical
standard.
The
mayor
to
his
credit,
agrees
with
that
sentiment.
U
My
understanding
regarding
the
transfer
of
assets
between
departments
is
that
the
process
starts
when
one
department
declares
its
equipment
to
be
surplus
before
the
ultimate
act
of
surplus
in
the
equipment
up
for
public
sale
and
and
prends.
However,
state
statute
requires
that
quote:
the
governing
board
has
ellipses
determined
and
quote
the
the
equipment
quote
is
no
longer
necessary,
useful
or
suitable
for
the
purpose
for
which
it
was
acquired.
End
quote
a
sec
l6
13
1.
My
further
understanding
is
that
other
departments
can
determine
whether
they
can
use
the
equipment.
U
My
further
understanding
is
that
other
departments
can
determine
whether
they
can
use
the
equipment
and,
if
they
can
and
their
budget
supports
its
use,
they
are
able
to
obtain
the
equipment
for
their
use.
In
other
words,
the
actions
of
the
department
determine
whether
equipment
is
useful
for
city
operations
and
thus
is
not
appropriate
for
surplus.
The
City,
Council's
oversight
or
restrictive
role
in
this
process
is
through
the
budget,
specifically
the
line
items
used
to
purchase
the
equipment
initially
and
to
support
the
operation
of
this
equipment
going
forward.
U
Discussions
of
surplus
vehicles
may
come
up
in
budget
discussions
insofar
as
those
concerns
are
used
to
justify
an
amount
for
a
budget
line
item,
but
the
City
Council
has
not
directed
or
rejected
the
surplus
of
vehicles.
In
this
case,
the
mayor
had
the
budget
for
a
tentative
police
surplus
city
vehicle
from
the
police
department
and
paid
for
its
use
out
of
this
Travel
line
item.
It
therefore
comports
with
the
law.
According
to
my
research,
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions
the.
R
Issue
you
make
some
good
points
by
the
way
Justin
I've
really
enjoyed
working
with
you
since
you've
gotten
here,
I've
value
your
opinion,
I'm
gonna,
disagree
with
you
on
this
one,
because
no
means
in
terms
of
policy
policy
is
to
direct
decisions.
The
direct
decision-making
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
careful
as
a
city
when
you
can
go
make
a
decision
without
there
being
just
because
it
says
you
can't
do
it
doesn't
mean
you
should
do
it.
So
the
thing
I
want
to
be
careful
about
is
I.
Look
at
a
city
employee.
R
If
a
city
employee
violates
policy
or
goes
against
stated
policy
are
not
within
the
budget.
They're
gonna
get
a
reprimand
at
the
least,
and
we
as
public
to
hit
officials.
We
can't
have
a
second
standard
on
that.
That's
why
I
have
to
disagree
with
what
you
said.
We
cannot
have
a
second
standard
on
that.
R
P
When
I
first
found
out
about
this
way
back
when
it
seemed
very
logical
to
me,
because
I
think
in
the
end,
I
think
it
served
our
city
well
because
of
the
mayor's
involvement,
I
understand,
there's
really
only
one
person
that
really
knows
exactly
how
this
came
down
and
that
would
be
the
mayor.
I,
don't
know
that,
but
I
wonder
what
we're
really
asking
for
done.
I
mean
if
we
want
to
stand
somebody
up
and
lash
them,
let's
just
get
it
done
with
and
move
on.
We
have
a
lot
of
important
things.
P
This
is
not
about
what
I've
heard
about
a
good
ol
boy
system.
It's
not
what
this
is.
It's
a
mistake.
It's
been
an
acknowledged
mistake
and
it's
almost
an
embarrassment
to
our
community
for
this
to
go
on
over
a
car
that
was
surplus,
so
I'm
cool
with
your
idea
of
getting
the
numbers.
I
have
no
problem
with
that,
but
I
want
to
know
what
the
end
result
is
going
to
be.
Where
does
it
end?
P
P
To
you,
I'm,
saying
generally
within
some
of
the
public,
this
is
a
political
issue,
I'm
concerned
about
the
perception
within
the
public,
not
the
political
use
of
this
in
the
mayor's
race,
which
I
have
no
skin
in
this
game.
I
don't
want
any
skin
in
the
game,
but
I'm
concerned
with
the
perception
that
the
public
has
that's.
What
I
would
like
to
focus
on
I
can't
do
anything
about
what
happened
in
the
past.
We
can
do
things
that
stop
or
prevent
it
from
happening
in
the
future.
S
One
comment
I'd
like
to
make
you
know:
I,
certainly
don't
condone
how
this
all
took
place
with
this
vehicle
I
as
a
city
council
president
I've
take
a
little
bit
ownership
in
the
fact
that
that
I
didn't
recognize
this.
Probably
it's
an
issue
much
sooner
and
bring
it
to
the
council's
attention.
So
for
that,
that's
that's
probably
where
I
fell
down
on
this
a
little
bit,
but
although
I
don't
condone
the
way,
this
happened.
S
I
will
say
that
in
defense
of
the
mayor
he
does
that
you
know
I
work
in
in
my
tenure
with
this
city
through
Planning
and
Zoning
and
City
Council,
one
of
the
most
active
mayors
that
I've
seen
the
Steve
goes
to
every
function,
possible,
fundraiser,
the
guy
puts
in
miles
and
miles
and
miles,
and
the
stipend
for
him
is
250
bucks
a
year
and
I
just
and
I'm
not
defending
the
way.
This
was
done
at
all
and
but
I'm
just
saying,
I
think
that.
S
Let
me
finish
moving
forward.
I
think
we
have
to.
We
have
to
look
at
this
and
and
provide
something
gives
some
relief
in
that
regard
for
for
the
mayor's
travel,
but
I
just
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
Steve
is
very,
very
active
in
on
the
weekends
and
and
drink
throughout
the
week
and
in
the
evenings.
So
that's
that's.
What
I
have
I
guess.
D
I
would
like
to
weigh
in
too
because
I
was,
one
of
that
was
involve
miss
conversation
from
from
the
get-go
Don.
You
and
I
have
shared
some
disagreement
on
this
I.
Don't
like
the
way
it
it
went
down.
I
wish
Steve.
You
would
have
taken
a
little
more
ownership
of
this
issue
two
weeks
ago
and
we
met
but
again
I.
Think
it's
one
where
perception
is
definitely
a
bigger
issue
than
in
reality.
D
I'm
not
so
sure
that
if
we
were
to
pull
the
numbers,
which
I
would
encourage
Shelley
to
do
and
compare
that
to
what
the
reimbursement
would
have
been
for
out-of-town
travel
that
the
mayor
would
have
used
for
with
his
personal
car
I'm.
Not
so
sure
it
wasn't
a
net
savings.
Was
it
budgeted
as
such?
Did
we
violate
a
policy
or
did
we
not
have
a
policy
yeah?
We
need
to
strengthen
some
things
going
forward,
but
III
can't
do
be
any
more
critical
at
this
point
of
I
feel
like
the
mayor
is
apologized
for
this.
W
Ten
people
on
this
council
we're
basically
the
policy
makers
of
this
this
city,
but
the
mayor
stepped
up
as
a
individual
and
taken
responsibility
for
it.
I
think
it's
a
witch-hunt,
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
a
campaign.
I'm
gonna
be
right
fronting
in
forward
with
it,
and
it's
our
fault
that
we
didn't
research,
the
policy
he
has
not
laid
the
blame
on
us.
He
has
stood
up
and
taking
the
blame
for
himself.
W
A
Know
just
because
loose
and
I
fully
understand
what
you're
saying
I
appreciate
what
you've
said.
Just
because
I
do
go
out
on
Saturdays
and
Sundays
and
evenings
and
doing
this
doesn't
make
it
right
that
it
happened.
I
can't
I
can't
say
that
it
made
it
right,
so
I
I
am
taking
I'm
taking
the
sword
on
this
I'm
falling
on
the
sword.
Guys
that's
the
way
it
is
I
would
like
to
move
on
and
and
see
where.
P
It
goes
hasn't.
My
point
is
this:
my
point
is:
is
that
no
I
don't
want
to
give
anybody
impression?
I
condone
the
manner
in
which
has
happened,
I
don't,
but
at
some
point
in
time
you
can
only
beat
a
dead
horse
so
long
and
at
some
point
by
continuing
it,
then
I
have
to
ask
the
question
is:
what
is
it
that
we
want
that
puts
this
to
bed
because
I
think
it
has
gotten
ridiculous?
R
No
witch
hunt
here
intended,
but
we
are
the
council
and
we
are
responsible
for
the
budget
and
we
don't
know
what's
going
on.
We
need
to
understand
those
numbers.
That's
why
I've
asked
that
so
I
have
also
sent
an
email
to
this
council
and
I'll
say
it
this
week.
That
I
would
have
very
much
have
recognized
how
active
this
mayor
is.
That
has
been
recognized,
but
the
bottom
line
is
budget
issues.
R
Don't
get
talked
behind
the
scenes
guys
we
have
to
these
got
to
be
open
discussions
and
Mike
I'm
getting
different
feedback
than
you
are
from
the
public,
so
I
I
need
the
answer
to
those
people
too.
So
this
has
got
to
be.
It's
been
a
good
open
discussion.
I'm
glad
we've
done
this.
That's
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be,
because
if
you
don't
do
it
that
way,
then
it
starts
to
look
different
budget
issues
got
to
be
discussed
in
the
public
forum.
R
V
A
We
they
haven't,
got
the
notification
yet,
but
we
are
meeting
Wednesday
afternoon
with
with
Dustin
Brown.
Now
the
CMA
are
actually
our
first
initial
numbers
came
in
bit
higher
than
what
we
anticipated
right.
Now,
though,
when
we've
looked
at
it
possibly
different
locations
because
of
of
the
amount
of
fill
that
we
would
have
to
bring
in
the
grounds
and
everything
are
good
where
it's
at,
but
we
might
have
to
look
at
a
different
spot
which
would
save
us
easily
a
half
a
million
dollars.
A
So
you'll
be
getting
your
notification
here
probably
tomorrow
morning
that
there
is
a
meeting
Wednesday
that
just
came
about
today,
but
we're
pretty
close
in
the
numbers
right
now
we're
not
too
far
off
one
of
the
questions
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
which
is
a
$600,000
question
and
honest
to
god.
It's
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
A
Do
we
run
it
year-round
or
do
we
run
it
for
a
normal
ice
period
of
time?
You
know
where
they
run
it
for
eight
months
versus
nine
or
ten
months.
If
you
run
at
nine
or
ten
months,
there's
a
whole
different
insulation
package
that
has
to
go
into
it.
If
you
run
it
for
the
normal
that,
like
we
have
at
the
existing
ice
facility,
it
is
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
less,
which
would
then
in
fact
bring
us
down
substantially
lower
than
our
original
anticipation.
A
V
V
A
Sure,
well,
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
just
so
you
know,
and
I'm
gonna
have
Shane
bring
it
up.
We've
had
this
discussion,
they're,
actually
looking
at
it
right
now,
if
you
take
a
look
at
our
Event
Center,
the
to
the
east
side
of
the
Events
Center
is
property
owned
by
the
city
of
Watertown,
not
in
the
floodplain,
not
in
the
flood
zone.
A
A
If
we
went
there
also,
what
I
would
do
is
would
give
you
a
really
good
exposure
of
your
ice
facility
and
also
it
would
help
your
event
center
for
people
staying
there
and
and
doing
things
you
know
because
we
always
have
to
try
I
mean
we
own
that
facility
and
we
all
dollars
against
it.
So
I
would
like
to
see
if
there's
a
chance,
it
can
go
there,
the
the
ice
facility
to
the
the
old
one
you
know
there
is
that
chance.
We
could
go
up
there,
but
again
there
you've
got
Phil
there.
A
P
And
Dan
adjust
will
make
comment.
I
I've
long
had
the
same
thought
that
you
have
that
we've
got
that
other
facility
up
north
just
go
in
got
it
out
renovated.
A
couple
weeks
ago
when
dick
Strasburg
was
here,
dick
Strasburg
is
our
representative
from
tegra,
which
is
our
owners
rep.
No,
yes,
owners,
rep
I
talked
to
him
about
that,
and
then
he
said
Mike
in
all
actuality.
It
would
probably
cost
you
as
much
to
go
in
and
renovate
that
builders
would
be
to
go,
build
a
whole
new
half,
and
that
was
him
from
his
experience.
P
V
A
Well,
we're
looking
at
different
areas,
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
be
aware
of.
If
you
remember
right,
the
h2
2020,
which
had
a
you
know,
you
know
the
we
worked
on
the
vote
here
with
our
City
Council
for
a
30
million
dollar
bond
issue.
If
you
remember
right
that
was
taken
to
it.
That
was
referred
to
a
vote
of
the
people
with
overwhelmingly
support
of
77%
to
23%
to
bond
for
30
million
dollars.
A
This
is
the
third
part
of
that
project
that
we're
going
to
complete
that
was
actually
put
in
play
by
the
h2o
2020
people
and
supported
by
the
ethic
Council,
so
I
just
wanted
to
touch
base
on
that.
It's
a
great
project.
I
really
truly
think
that
if
we,
if
we
do
this
right
and
the
decision
will
need
to
be
made
on
what
time
of
a
timeframe
do
we
want
to
run
the
ice
year-round
or
do
we
want
to
run
it
as
our
normal
Isis
now
makes
a
big
difference
guys.
A
A
This
here
folks,
is
in
that
southeast
corner
of
this
particular
one.
That's
where
the
county
wants
to
build.
Their
storage
shed
now
be
in
a
shed.
It's
40
by
104,
pretty
good
sized
shed.
We've
talked
to
the
landowners
to
the
east.
They
have
no
issue
about
putting
it
there.
They
would
like
some
trees
put
in
in
the
county
is
willing
to
do
that.
The
county
would
like
to
have
kind
of
the
idea
that,
yes,
they
can
do
this.
A
They
would
like
to
lease
it
they'd
like
to
run
the
lease
kind
of
in
accordance
with
the
ice
Plex
right
now
to
the
year
2035,
so
they
actually
wouldn't
at
the
same
time,
and
then
it
can
be
discussed
that
at
that
time,
what's
your
thoughts
on
that
there's
kind
of
old
business
and
I
want
to
let
them
know.
What's
going
on
I.
R
D
R
Had
some
discussions
on
this
and
you
look
at
what's
going
on
at
the
high
school
and
the
Boys
&
Girls
Clubs
we're
trying
to
clean
up
some
of
this
County
owns
the
land
city
has
a
building
city
owns,
Atlantic
County
has
the
building.
We
want
to
work
with
the
county.
Every
about
period
agrees
with
that.
How
do
you,
what
are
your
thoughts
or
what's
the
council's
thoughts
on
we're
kind
of
perpetuating
that
mishmash
of
property
ownership?
This.
A
P
Here:
here's
my
quite
yet
Don
I
agree
or
the
idea
we've
talked
about
that
here
a
couple
weeks
ago.
It
just
seems
like
an
odd
deal,
but
if
we're
gonna
probably
be
six
feet
under
18
years
from
now,
but
when
18
years
rolls
around
so
then
what
do
we
do?
Then
we
say:
okay,
let's
swap
the
land
under
the
ice
rink
and
the
in
this
building.
Well,
if
that's
the
case,
why
don't
we
just
do
it
now
and
it
just
yeah.
K
P
P
S
A
One
of
the
things
that
you
could
do
and
I
know
I,
don't
know
if
there's
heartburn
against
it
or
if
there's
anybody
wants
to
look
at
it.
We
were
given.
We
were
given
the
facility
we
were
given
the
land
and
the
county
has
kind
of
put
that
at
us
numerous
times
that
we
didn't
really
pay
much
for
that
they
would
like
to
see.
A
R
A
P
A
So
am
I
comfortable
and
telling
them
that
we're
good
to
go
on
this
piece,
I
kind
of
think
so
no
I
don't
think
we
can
make
a
vote
on
this,
but
I
just
would
I
just
think
we're.
You
know
unless
somebody
really
vocally
comes
out
against
it,
I'm
going
to
tell
them
that
we'll
move
forward
with
this
rolling.
A
The
railroad
come
back
to
the
council
for
a
vote,
but
they're
ordering
the
building
not
as
we
speak,
and
they
just
want
to
make
sure.
Otherwise,
if
you
look
at
the
ice
facility,
what
they're
looking
at,
if
you
take
your
little
pool
Kuehl
and
go
down
a
little
more
right,
there
go
up
a
little
bit
right
there.
A
We
actually
have
that
tied
up
through
2035
on
our
lease,
so
they
would
actually
move
further
to
the
south
a
little
further
down
Shane
yeah
right
there,
that's
where
they
would
put
the
building,
so
it
would
leave
a
real
gap
in
that
it
would
just
there's
much
much
better
things
for
that
property.
I,
think
yeah,
just
off
the
wall.
Can
you
take
that
whole
page
up
a
little
bit.
I
want
to
just
make
a
and
then
I
got
to
go
to
something
else.
It's
almost
10
o'clock.
A
Can
you
believe
it
when
those
when
those
trailer
houses
come
up
for
sale,
I've
actually
told
mr.
Briggs
to
give
us
the
first
option
to
buy
those
pieces
of
property
I
think
it
would
clean
up
that
whole
area
very
nicely,
and
just
so
you
guys
know
that
that's
out
there
all
right
now,
if
you'll
take
me
over
to
Uptown
across
from
the
courthouse.
A
A
They
that
the
Midland
building
does
not
own
that
parking
lot.
The
Midland
building
does
not
own
the
further
east
of
that
parking
lot.
They
only
own
about
where
one
car
is
on
straight
to
the
east
of
it,
so
they
got
about
two
or
three
Lots
within
that
that
that
they're
looking
that
they
would
like
to
sell
the
city
if,
if
it
goes
through
with
the
county
vote,
so
if
the
county
vote
goes
through
and
we
lose
that
parking,
we
would
have
the
ability
to
buy
this.
He
gave
us
an
appraisal.