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B
Yes,
they
were
very
good,
but
we
did
open
the
bids
for
the
skatepark
project.
We
received
one
bid,
and
that
was
for
two
hundred
and
seventy-five
thousand
dollars,
which
is
much
much
higher
than
we
were
anticipating.
So
we're
hoping
that
this
evening
the
council
will
reject
that
bid
and
give
us
a
possibility
to
negotiate
with
evergreen
skate
parks
to
get
that
amount
down
to
a
workable
number
for
us.
C
B
B
We
spent
some
of
that
on
design
services,
so
we're
about
172
in
that
range
of
that
money
remaining
and
then
we
received
the
ten
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
Tony
Hawk
Foundation
have
also
received
$5,000
from
the
Watertown
Community
Foundation
and
through
the
Watertown
Community
Foundation.
A
hundred
are
a
thousand
dollars
from
the
from
the
Youth
Council
and
then
Brad
on
all
the
fundraising
that
the
stakeholders
have
done
now.
Let
Brad
kind
of
let
us
talk
about
where
they're
at
right
now
and
where
they're
projecting
to
be
with
fundraisers
that
they
have
planned.
A
A
Before
you
get
Bradley
Carter
and
we
currently,
we've
got
right
about
ten
thousand
dollars,
just
in
grassroots
fundraising,
in
account
at
the
Watertown
Community
Foundation
that
they've
set
up
for
us.
We
just
received
a
$500
check
from
Prairie
lakes,
health
care,
which
was
exciting
to
read
about
this
morning,
and
then
we
told
you
about
the
pancake
feed.
A
He
took
some
of
my
muster
with
these
other
grants,
but
we
did
receive
approval
to
hold
a
raffle
starting
with
2000
tickets
and
we're
you
know
it's
it's
a
gas
but
we're
estimating
somewhere
between
thirteen
thousand
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
to
be
raised.
From
that
event,
we
have
an
event
scheduled
for
May
20th
and
it's
going
to
be
a
skate-a-thon
in
conjunction
with
the
campus
crushers,
which
is
the
roller
derby,
girls
here
and
home
kind
of
got
a
rough
projection.
A
A
D
E
We
reached
out
to
a
wider
region
than
then
initially
J
had
a
list
of
potential
skatepark
design
and
build
people
that
we
sent.
We
made
sure
that
all
those
folks
had
the
data.
Then
we
went
to
the
regional
centers
like
Sioux,
Falls,
Aberdeen,
Fargo
I
think
we
even
put
up
publication
in
Minneapolis
st.
Paul
area,
thinking
that
maybe
we
would
attract
the
attention
of
a
swimming
pool
construction
company,
because
it's
very
similar
work,
you're,
just
not
putting
water
in
it
and
you
know
doing
all
the
plumbing
stuff
with
it.
E
But
the
style
of
work
is
very
similar
to
building
a
an
outdoor
swimming
pool.
So
we
kind
of
concentrated
on
that
type
of
a
net
to
try
to
grab
attention
and,
of
course,
evergreen
skatepark
is
affiliated
in
some
fashion
with
the
team
that
designed
our
park.
So
they
kind
of
had
an
inroads
and
what
we've
done
is
since
we've
taken
those
bids
and
and
identified
why
the
bids
came
in
as
high
as
they
did.
E
Some
of
the
in-kind
work
that
we're
working
on
or
negotiating
with
was
currently
that
area
that
the
skatepark
is
going
to
be
built
in
has
built
up
with
a
asphalt
blotter.
We
call
it
pavement,
but
it's
multiple
layers
of
sealcoat
mixture,
so
it
does
kind
of
become
an
asphalt
pavement
and
one
of
the
bigger
question
marks
was
getting
rid
of
that
material.
E
So
we've
decided
that
if
that's
a
big
issue,
that's
something
that
city
staff
and
forces
can
go
in
and
remove
that
a
much
reduced
cost
than
having
the
contractor
come
in
and
read
and
take
care
of
that
item.
One
other
thing:
is
they
estimated
about
a
thousand
yards
of
fill
material
that
needed
to
be
in
brought
into
the
project,
so
we've
identified
where
we
have
that
material
and
the
city
could
supply
that
material
for
the
project?
E
So
that's
another
item
that
we
could
that
were
negotiating
off
the
price
and
the
last
two
things
revolve
around
finish:
work
putting
topsoil
in
and
seeding
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
we
have
the
expertise
to
do
that
kind
of
work
on
our
own
through
the
parks
department.
And
so
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
that
we're
reining
in
what
can
the
city
staff
do
and
and
how
can
we
get
that
price
down
to
a
workable
thing?
Now,
of
course,
that
so
we're
still?
E
E
I,
don't
know
how
many
will
be
below
that,
but
that's
our
at
least
our
initial
starting
point
to
try
to
get
to,
and
then
you
know
we
do
have
to
realize
that
there
are
costs
to
the
city
by
doing
that
in
kind
work
and
others
work.
We
have
to
delay
some
other
things
that
we
would
have
to
do
to
get
this
work
done,
so
not
that
we
can't
get
everything
we
want
done
in
the
summer.
Just
some
things
might
move
a
little
slower
or
a
little
different
schedule
than
we
had
originally
planned.
F
We
identified
any
other
communities
within
the
region
anyway,
that
have
have
made
similar
types
of
parks
and
reached
out
to
them
to
find
out.
Who
did
the
work
for
them
to
see?
If
we
can
seems
odd
that,
if
that
we
get
one
bit
only
on
it,
but
have
we
looked
at
other
communities
around
to
see
what
what
may
have
happened
there
and
who
did
it?
Evergreen.
E
E
That's
where
the
official
bit
location
came
from
was
Montana,
so
so
they're
bought
one
state
away,
and
ironically,
they
do
have
a
job
in
Michigan
that
if
we
could
time
our
project
out,
they
could
do
it
on
the
way
to
the
Michigan
job,
otherwise
I'm,
assuming
that
they
would
catch
us
on
the
way.
When.
G
B
At
this
time,
but
if
it
would
extend
on
for
another
year,
I
think
we
would
be,
and
I
spoke
with
the
owners
for
green
skate
park
on
Friday,
and
they
certainly
are
willing
to
negotiate
with
us
to
get
that
price
down
and
like
Shane,
said,
I
think
it
would
be
relatively
soon
if
we
can
work
out
a
deal
that
they
could
come
in,
because
they
do
have
a
project
that
they're
working
on
right.
Now,
as
Shane
said
in
Montana
and
going
to
Michigan.
B
G
B
Yeah,
what
Brad
said
is
that
they
wanted
us
to
flood
him
with
information,
so
the
guys
took
some
pictures
at
the
pancake
feed
yesterday
and
we're
gonna
send
that
on
to
them
and
they've
been
working
with
us
on
a
weekly
basis.
There's
information
that
I'm
sending
back
and
forth
to
them
and
I
just
like
to
introduce.
F
H
If
we,
if
we
do
everything,
goes
correctly,
there's
not
a
lot
of
equipment
like
this,
that
for
our
youth,
especially
for
people
that
don't
generally
participate
in
the
average
sports
that
are
offered
in
school,
I
myself
have
have
never
been
one
to
kind
of
fit
the
mold
for
a
lot
of
the
average
kids
and
there's
a
lot
of
other
kids
like
me
throughout
the
school
that
I've
gone
with,
that
haven't,
haven't
really
just
found
a
way:
an
interest
in
sports
offered
by
schools.
H
So
something
like
this
is
definitely
great
for
the
community
it'll.
It
should
give
the
kids
an
outlet
to
focus
that
energy
on
it
definitely
gave
me
an
outlet
and
I
was
able
to
stay
out
of
trouble
without
my
youth.
I
just
went
to
the
skate
park
every
day
and
that's
what
I
did
and
contrary
to
somewhat
what
some
people
may
believe.
Skateboarders
on
there
I
never
saw
really
anything
that,
like
there's,
not
a
bunch
of
troublemakers,
they're
not
doing
drugs
at
the
skate
park
or
anything
like
that.
It's
it's
just!
H
It's
just
kind
of
like
a
an
artistic,
it's
like
art
and
a
an
athletic
sport
kind
of
combined.
But
it's
it's
not
even
a
sport
in
itself.
It's
it's
kind
of
close
to
an
art
and
that's
something
that
we
don't
really
offer
in
in
the
school
is
the
Arts
and
within
a
water
tower,
nor
just
the
the
programs
aren't.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
our
programs
or
things
like
that
for
kids,
like
that,
so
kids
would
be
able
to
focus
energy
on
something.
That's
athletic
involves
arts,
and
things
like
that.
H
Oh
I've
never
broken
a
bone.
It's
higher
ten
years
of
skateboarding
I've,
yellow.
K
G
Iii
I
guess
I
just
like
to
publicly
say:
Bradley
I
know,
you've
been
involved
in
this
from
day
one
and
sound
like,
and
some
other
people
behind
the
scenes.
I
really
want
to
extend
my
appreciation
for
what
you've
been
doing
by
the
scenes
to
try
to
raise
funds
for
this
project.
Thank
you
very
much
question.
I
B
C
L
And
you
know
not
only
that,
but
I
think
we
might
have
to
look
at
the
bid
laws
here
again
just
to
get
a
better
idea
of
where
we
set
negotiation
after
a
bid
is
relegated
to
a
few
select
circumstances,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
this
is
one
of
them.
So
but
yes,
it
would
have
to
go
back
before
the
council.
C
C
The
reason
I
put
this
on,
as
if
you
guys
remember
a
couple
weeks
ago,
I
kind
of
gave
you
that
heads-up
that
something
was
in
in
the
works
that
facilities
in
town
are
looking
at
at
selling
alcoholic
beverages
and
and
I
asked
you
to
kind
of
kick
that
around
and
and
think
about.
What's
going
on,
and
lo
and
behold,
they
did
come
forward
and
target,
of
course,
is
asking
us
to
approve
alcohol
sales
in
their
store.
It
did
go
through
the
Planning
Commission
that
finding
Commission
said
this.
C
The
the
area
is
okay
and
the
site
is
fine,
so
they
don't
have
an
issue
with
it,
and
and
I
wanted
to
have
Justin
again
visit
with
us
about
the
lack
of
city
ordinances
that
are
there
for
the
alcohol,
but
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
also
know
some
of
the
conversations
I've
had
with
with
others.
I've
talked
to.
Actually
they
called
me.
C
L
Him
here,
I
think
you
brought
up
two
items
mayor,
the
the
first
of
which
regards
the
lack
of
an
ordinance
in
in
the
revised
ordinances
that
would
restrict
to
whom
licenses
could
be
issued,
and
the
council
may
recall
the
conversation.
We
had
a
few
meetings
work
sessions
ago,
as
well
as
the
action
that
was
taken
in
fall
of
2016
regarding
the
the
elimination
of
section
two
point:
zero
one,
one
three,
which
was
the
one
restriction
that
existed
or
one
prohibition.
L
The
other
reason
that
I
think
it's
important
to
stress
here
is
that
within
statute
we
have
the
mechanism
by
which
the
council
is
to
prove
or
disapprove
licenses,
applications
for
new
retail
licenses
transfer
existing
licenses
and
that's
in
South
Dakota,
codified
law,
35
2
1.2,
and
why
that's
important
and
why
it
gets
to
why
putting
it
in
ordinances.
Problematic
is
because
the
South
Dakota
Supreme
Court
construed.
What
that
statutory
authority
entails,
in
a
case
called
Hendricks
V
Anderson,
that's
522,
Northwest,
2nd,
Porter
49.
L
Excuse
me
499,
pin
site
501
is
a
South
Dakota
Supreme
Court
case
from
1994.
The
quote
that
I
think
is
important
to
take
from
that
is
that
in
South,
Dakota
no
statute
or
municipal
ordinance
establishes
the
legal
right
to
the
issuance
of
a
liquor
license.
The
grant
of
authority
from
the
state
to
local
governing
boards
for
issuing
alcoholic
beverage
licenses
is
set
forth
in
SDC
L
35
2
1
point
2.
L
Utilizing
the
council's
quasi
judicial
authority
so
I
know
there
may
have
been
a
question
about
whether
we
could
re
impose
an
ordinance
similar
to
that
one
that
was
struck
and
I
believe
this
court
case
appears
to
prevent
that
from
happening.
Now
beyond
that,
then
the
question
is
okay.
What
we
have
in
statute,
then?
What
does
that
mean
under
South
Dakota,
codified
law,
35?
L
The
court
stated
that
the
governing
body
has
broad
discretion
and
acting
on
the
application,
but
that
discretion
is
limited
to
those
two
considerations.
So
there
are
then
grounds
within
those
considerations
that
you
know
the
council
can
consider.
That
includes
the
extent
to
which
minors
frequent
or
are
employed
in
such
place
of
business
includes
the
adequacy
of
police
facilities
to
properly
police
the
proposed
location,
the
manner
in
which
the
business
is
operated
and
other
factors
inherently
associated
in
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages.
L
N
O
K
P
Yeah
just
a
few
things
and
if
you
had
any
questions,
I'd
certainly
entertain
them,
but
I
just
I
think
I've.
Let
most
of
you
know
that
I'm
not
in
favor
of
it
for
a
number
of
reasons.
Theft
is
too
easy.
Kids
are
in
the
store
at
all
hours
of
the
night.
They
can
go
into
a
liquor
store
now
be
kicked
out
immediately,
go
into
a
retail
store
or
convenience
store.
You
know
we're
open
in
the
box
here
if
we
approve
this.
P
That's
just
my
concerns
that
we're
opening
the
box
enforcement
gives
us
more
place
that
you
have
to
worry
about.
We'd
have
to
run
more
stings.
Those
type
of
things
I
think
there's
enough
places
in
town
to
buy
it
now.
I
think
we
already
exceed
the
liquor
licenses
in
town
and
I
know.
There's
a
number
I,
don't
know
the
exact
number.
Maybe
somebody
else
does,
but
how
many
malt
beverage
licenses
we
have
now
just
my
thoughts
but.
O
P
O
P
O
P
Know
the
number:
if
all
cities
allow
it
or
not
bill
I
know
some
do
some
convenience
corners
to
stop
in
to
have
beer
malt
beverage
type
stuff,
but
I
don't
know
if
all
the
other
cities
do
it
I
think
that's
one
thing
that
makes
Watertown
kind
of
unique:
your
parents
can
go
shopping
with
their
kids
and
not
have
to
see
that
type
of
stuff
down
the
aisles
and
I
know
some
places.
They'll
say:
they'll
start
with
just
a
little
display
and
pretty
soon
that
can
grow,
because
nothing
in
the
license
says
that
it
can't
be.
P
I
know
it's
the
water
town,
health,
youth
that
sent
on
some
information
I.
Think
most
of
you
might
have
seen
that
and
there's
some
links
there.
You
can
go
and
check
and
there's
a
lot
of
studies
out
there
that
talk
about
the
density
of
it
in
the
city
can
lead
to
more
crimes
and
more
more
issues
and
that's
a
nationwide
study.
It
doesn't
say
anything
particularly
to
South
Dakota
or
any
one
town
in
South,
Dakota,
I,
think.
J
The
configurations
that
I've
seen
of
alcohol
retail
mixes
have
been
anything
from
located
right
in
the
store,
the
targets
and
the
Walmart's,
and
some
of
those
that
I've
seen
the
liquor
and
have
been
primarily
the
great
land
targets
or
the
super
Walmart's
that
have
an
extensive
grocery
department
in
Fargo.
You
have
to
leave
the
building
and
go
into
another
building,
even
though
they're
attached
that's
one
configuration
another.
Is
that
the
liquor
area
is
separated
by
you
know
a
glass
door.
J
You
know
so
it
to
answer
bills
question
it
does
go
on
in
other
cities
and
each
one
has
a
unique
city
by
city
ordinance
in
in,
for
example,
in
Wisconsin
you
can
be
in
Brown
County
and
they
have
to
be
separate,
but
you
can
go
out
gamee
County
and
they
don't.
You
know
so.
I
think
it's
just
one
of
those
things
where
each
community
has
decided.
P
C
Q
We
spoke
the
other
day
our
take
on
it
is.
We
would
just
just
a
guess,
but
we
would
probably
generate
a
a
million
dollars
extra,
which
part
of
that
would
contribute
to
sales
tax
in
Watertown,
which
I
know
we've
trended
down
in
the
Watertown
community,
so
that
would
be
a
number
one
take
on
and
I
can
speak,
pretty
intelligent
to
lead
to
the
Brookings
story.
I
worked
in
the
Brookings
store
for
quite
a
few
years.
Q
Q
J
Though
about
the
just
playing
devil's
advocate
about
the
sales
tax
revenue
I'm
going
to
either
buy
my
beer
at
Walmart
or
a
discount,
is
that
really
is
it
a
net
sum
game
I
mean?
Are
we
not
gaining
sales
tax
revenue?
Are
we
just
spreading
it
around
shuffling
it
around
I!
Guess
that's
what
I'm
wondering
is.
You
know
that's
a
fairly
significant
number,
but,
but
is
it
you
know
diluting
I,
don't
know
that
there
would
be
a
lot
more
sales
tax
revenue
just
shifting
it
I
guess.
Q
And
we
we
also
question
that,
in
in
looking
at
some
prior
stories
and
talking
to
some
other
managers
around,
our
average
transaction
is
about
55
dollars
for
an
average
transaction.
When
we
would,
if
we
would
be
able
to
carry
beer
and
wine,
it
raises
our
average
transaction
to
about
$75,
because
when
folks
come
in,
we
can
become
to
be
a
destination
on
holidays.
Instead
of
so
when
they
come
in,
they
also
buy
their
cups,
their
chips,
more
party
supplies
at
our
destination,
in
which
they
probably
went
by
their
convenience,
store.
F
R
Yes,
darrel
sire
here
I
actually
managed
one
of
the
Wyoming
stores
and
we
were
the
kind
of
the
pilot.
We
were
the
first
store
that
ever
had
liquor
in
state
of
Wyoming
and
after
six
years
you
know
at
the
concern
about
the
stings
we
had
several.
We
passed
everyone
just
by
the
way
we
did
it
the
as
far
as
separate
sections
I
think
one
of
the
Sioux
Falls
stores
has
actually
a
separate
section.
We've
looked
at
that
too.
R
You
know,
possibly
with
the
subway
empty
up
front
in
our
store
right
now,
as
a
totally
separate
area
for
liquor
did
have
that
out
in
Wyoming,
I
will
tell
you,
it
was
I.
Think
Kaylee's
estimate
is
really
really
kind
of
conservative.
We
were
doing
out
of
a
little.
We
had
a
separate
room.
We
were
doing
a
two
and
a
half
million
and
liquor
sales
that
didn't
include
all
the
other
axillary
sales
from
you
know.
R
There
was
a
lot
of
the
stores
getting
Alexis
at
time
as
far
as
South
Dakota
in
liquor,
I
think
we're
the
only
Walmart
in
the
state
of
South
Dakota,
and
we
get
a
lot
of
heat
on
that
we
get.
People
come
in,
especially
our
travelers.
Stopping
in
I.
Don't
think,
there's
a
day
that
we
probably
don't
get
specially
in
in
in
the
evenings.
R
We
don't
get
five
six
seven
people
wondering
where
our
beer
or
wine
or
where
liquor
is,
and
the
first
thing
we
always
hear,
is
well
every
other
Walmart
has
it,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
think
would.
As
far
as
the
the
the
worrying
about
selling
to
minors
and
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
see
that
as
a
problem,
we
we
pretty
much
a
pretty
compliant
we're
pretty
compliant.
We
we
make
sure
that
our
people
are
know
what
the
rules
are
and
you
normally.
R
M
M
L
L
Given
it's
a
discretionary
act
to
approve
a
license
is
to
say
basically
by
a
writ
of
mandamus,
that
the
City
Council
should
have
acted
differently
and
one
of
the
ways
of
asserting
that
argument
is
to
say
that
City
Council
acted
in
an
arbitrary
and
capricious
manner
and
in
fact
somebody
did
make
that
colorable
claim
against
a
City
Council
when
there
were
two
licensees
up
for
consideration,
potential
licensees
and
both
had
a
similar
arrangement.
Yet
one
was
turned
down
now.
L
Obviously,
there's
been
8
months
that
have
has
gone,
but
you
know
I
can't
forecast
I
mean
number
one.
If
anybody
made
a
claim
against
the
city,
how
that
would
turn
out?
You
know
there
are.
There
are
clear
distinctions
between
this
case
and
that
case,
but
it
is
something
to
consider
I
would
say,
but.
F
F
We
went
through
this
this
morning
and
I'll
give
that
to
you,
but
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
try
to
look
for
is
our
consistency
in
our
fairness,
but
yet
the
discretionary
act
going
to
Randy's
point
we're
set
up
to
fail
on
that,
based
on
the
change
of
of
council
people
that
are
here
or
a
change
of
a
mayor
or
change
of
city
staff
or
whatever
it
is
then,
and
so
the
different
body
of
people
or
the
situations
can
dictate
your
decision.
That's.
F
As
long
as
we
can't
have
an
ordinance
that
dictates
this,
can
we
have
a
guiding
policy
that
says
here
are
the
conditions
under
which
we
will
we
at
least
as
a
guide
and,
for
example,
I
know
when
high
became
of?
What's
that
been
probably
four
or
five
six
years
ago?
Now,
probably
you
know
they
came
to
us
and
they
wanted
in
the
in
store,
and
we
said
well,
it's
okay,
but
you're
gonna
have
to
have
a
separate
entrance
to
it.
F
Well,
they
eventually
went
to
where
they're
at
well
I,
don't
see
the
big
difference
between
a
separate
entrance
versus
what
we
were
talking
about.
What
Beth
had
mentioned
of
having
and
enters
within
the
store,
but
a
separate
area.
So
can
we
establish
guidelines
to
use
in
our
making
decision
so
that
we
can
be
consistent
because
I
we?
We
certainly
want
to
be
consistent
with
each
person
that
is
requesting
that.
So
that's
my
question
to
you
and.
L
Councilman
I
would
say
that
the
rationale
needs
to
follow
the
criteria
set
out
in
statute,
suitable
person,
suitable
location,
that's
where
the
inquiry
is
focused.
Now
if
the
council
relies
upon,
you
know
similar
themes
that
are
grounded
in
those
concerns,
that's
the
prerogative
of
the
council,
I
mean.
Obviously
it's
it's
your
position
to
when
there's
a
public
hearing
to
take
testimony
to
have
that
factor
into
your
decision
and
really
that
gets
to
the
crux
of
why
this
is
a
discretionary
act.
L
N
L
Sure
sure
you
know
I
I
would
be
hesitant
to
say
this
is
an
example
of
a
suitable
location,
and
this
is
not
in
all
circumstances,
because
chances
are,
you
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
come
up
with
all
of
the
possible
criteria.
Permutations
I
mean
again
going
back
to
what
that
Hendricks
V
Anderson
case
said.
Is
you
know
it's
discretionary
this
this
whole
application
process,
so
it
needs
to
be
really
boiled
down
a
case-by-case
just.
G
L
What
they
answered
was
looking
at
zoning.
Surely
so
the
question
of
location
is
not
only
a
zoning
concern,
but
it
is
also
a
licensing
concern
as
in
location
within
the
store
or
location
on
the
premises,
I
mean
it
could
be
even
a
different
place
on
the
actual
ground
that
was
given
the
conditional
use
of
bar
tavern.
So
it's.
D
It's
I
think
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
it's
the
same
thing
as
if
anybody
applies
for
a
liquor
license
of
that
nature,
it's
suitable
location
and,
of
course,
the
tenant.
Whoever
owns
that
property
in
and
if
there
are
any
issues,
because
we've
looked
at
those
before
you
know
where
you've
had
problems
with
some
people
and
you
might
want
to
rethink
whether
or
not
you
want
to
well.
If
you
want
to
issue
a
license,
but
I
just
have
a
question
that
you
and
I
talked
about.
D
L
F
Now
this,
if
I,
had
a
liquor
store
today
got
my
liquor
license
all
approved
and
I
decided
to
build
a
grocery
store
around.
It
is
that
legal
yep
and
the
reason
why
I
say
that
is
we're
going
in
Reverse
right
now,
right,
we're
building
the
grocery
store
or
another
type
of
retail
store
and
we're
looking
to
add
liquor,
a
booze
or
whatever
right
right.
But
if
I
had
a
liquor,
store
and
decided
to
build
the
grocery
store,
I
can't.
L
I
do
that
I
can
tell
you,
it
would
be
I
mean.
Certainly
if
there
was
I
should
have
been
in
debate
in
height
yeah,
you
really
should
have.
You
would
have
been
stellar.
You
know,
like
the
the
on
say.
I
can
tell
you
with
like
on
sale.
For
instance,
you
know
if
you
had
a
bar
and
you
wanted
to
become
a
restaurant,
that's
going
to
be
more
difficult
in
terms
of
the
off
sale,
equivalent
having
a
liquor
store
and
then
expanding
into
a
grocery
store.
I.
Don't.
F
Don't
you
know
that
in
that
50/50
mix
up
of
if
it's
not
broke,
don't
fix
it
then
there's
the
morality
issue
and
then
there's
the
good-old-boy
issue:
you're
just
protecting
the
liquor
stores
and
amongst
those
three
that
kind
of
makes
up
the
category
of
the
50%
that
aren't
for
it
and
then
the
other
50%
said.
Why
should
you
be
restricting
it
and
it's
a
convenience
issue?
F
You
know
I
wish
there
was
a
way
I
would
love
to
see
this
be
able
to
go
into
ordinance
because
I'd
love
to
see
somebody
eventually
refer
it
to
a
vote,
so
the
people
of
our
town
can
decide
because
look
at
all
the
people
that
are
here
tonight
that
are
concerned
with
this.
We've
got
two
people
from
Walmart
right,
and
so
it's
very
hard
for
us,
as
as
the
decision
makers
here,
to
get
a
read
on
this
when
we
have
two
people
here
well,.
L
If
I
might
be
so
bold,
just
from
a
legal
perspective,
I
would
put
out
the
plug
for
our
alcohol
licensing
regime,
statutorily
speaking
needing
some
revision
meeting,
some
clarity,
whether
it's
off
sale
or
on
sale
licensing
in
the
state
in
terms
of
alcohol,
it's
Byzantine
at
best,
so
there
there
are
a
number
of
different
issues
that
I
think
need
to
be
addressed
at
the
state
level,
and
this
might
very
well
be
one
of
them.
My.
C
G
Just
a
a
comment,
a
question
of
you
mayor.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
reiterate
what
Mike
just
said:
I
spent
probably
an
hour
hour
and
a
half
going
through
Facebook
comment
after
you
posed
a
question
here
last
week,
Mike
and
you're
right
I
mean
it
was
split
right
down
the
middle
and
probably
most
logical.
One
was
somebody
said,
okay
list
out
plus
and
minus
in
the
sheet
of
paper,
and
he
did
it
and
he
you
know,
was
virtually
a
toss-up
when
he
was
all
said
and
done.
G
So
that's
my
kind
of
my
question
of
do
you?
Have
you
mayor's
I
have
no
way
of
refuting
the
numbers
as
far
as
what
the
additional
revenue
that
would
be.
That
would
be
brought
in
based
upon
adding
those
tear
sales.
But
a
question
of
you,
mayor,
you're,
closest
to
I,
mean
we're
pushing
retail
development
here
in
Watertown
you're
closest
to
you
know,
contacts
I've
been
made
about
possibly
coming
to
Watertown.
Has
this
ever
been
an
issue
in
your
discussions
with
the
potential
establishment
coming
to
Watertown?
No.
C
Not
on
sales
of
beer
and
wine,
and
there
hasn't
been
any
I'd
I-
also
wanted
to
just
let
you
know:
I've
talked
to
numerous
convenience
stores
and
they
actually
look
at
it
as
it
would
be
a
positive.
This
is
what
they're
telling
me,
because
they
would
be
able
to
sell
individual
cans
in
the
coolers
at
a
higher
margin.
So
they're,
looking
at
that,
you
know
when
people
drive
up
get
a
little
gas
want
a
couple.
Beers
hit
the
road,
that's
what
they're
thinking
you
know,
I'm.
C
So,
anyhow,
that's
really
what
they're
looking
at
they
would
not
need
the
salesperson
in
their
in
their
liquor
store.
You
know
it
would
be
all
taken
care
of
within
the
convenience
store,
but
that's
kind
of
what
they're
saying
to
me.
You
know
so
most
of
the
convenience
stores
that
have
liquor
to
the
side
of
them
would
be
in
favor
of
this
I'm,
just
letting
you
know
that
I
do
think
that
some
of
the
other
ones
at
just
our
liquor
stores
without
the
convenience
side
would
probably
be
opposed
to
this.
C
C
I
would
give
you
to
a
quick
minute,
but
otherwise
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
to
the
next
discussion
thanks,
Justin,
okay,
so
I
am
going
to
move
on
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
discussion
on
the
county
request
to
build
a
storage
building.
Next
to
the
field
house
and
I
see
Jim
you're
here.
If
you
want
to
come
up
also
to
the
to
the
microphone
and
with
with
Shane,
what
kind
of
take
a
look
and
see
what
your
plans
are
just.
S
But
then
you
know
the
city
too,
has
property
there
close
by
to
the
extension
complex
and
we're
looking
at.
You
know
possibly
asking
for
something
to
be
worked
out
where
we
could
build
the
building
that
we're
looking
at,
which
would
be
40
feet.
Why
did
a
hundred
and
four
feet
long
and
we've
we've
done
some
measuring
and
we're
looking
at
a
location.
E
C
One
of
the
things
is:
is
that
when
you
look
at
the
type
of
building
and
Brenda,
you
may
want
to
come
up
and
talk
also
because
we
did
have
conversation
with
Brenda
and
Milo
and
myself
about
this
location,
and
when
you
look
at
the
type
of
building
that
they're
looking
at
the
the
steel
building,
you
know
it
really
would
not
fit
over
there
by
the
ice
facility.
I
think
we've
had
that
discussion
and
we
know
that
we
know
that
it
wouldn't
fit
to
the
north
in
that
parking
lot.
It
really
would
not.
C
One
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
is
our
trolley.
You
know
our
trolley
is
is
a
very
nice
piece
of
equipment
that
actually
sits
over
to
the
left
over
there
in
that
that
facility
of
that
kind
of
right
there.
That's
where
it
sits
right
now
and
that's
more
of
a
gas
storage
type
facility.
If
there's,
if
there's
leaks
for
the
for
the
armory,
you
know
they
could
put
their
equipment
in
there
so
where
they're
looking
at
is
right
there.
C
It's
all
fenced
in
it
would
be
very
safe
and
secure
if
the
sheriff
has
anything,
that's
impounded
or
any
kind
of
evidence
or
something
that
could
go
into
that.
What
it
would
be
nice,
though,
is,
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
increase
the
size
of
that
building
by
20
or
22
foot.
You
know
if
the
city
could
partner
with
you
on
that
to
put
our
trolley
until
we
could
get
rid
of
that
one
building,
which
really
would
open
up
that
whole
parking
lot
better
for
us
to
serve
the
people
that
are
needing
out
there.
C
So
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
we
discussed
the
the
idea
of
selling
land.
We
discussed
the
idea
of
leasing
land
there's
a
lot
of
leasing
going
on
between
the
county
and
the
city
right
now
on
different
things
and
Jim,
I
got
to
say
that
you
know
having
those
sandbags
in
that
particular
building
and
the
condition
that
they're
under
is
not
good
and
I
think
this
would
be
very,
very
good
for
you.
So
I,
like
the
idea
and
I
think
the
county
really
at
this
particular
time
when
they're
looking
at
at
building
the
jail.
T
U
S
C
One
of
the
things
John
just
so
you
know
they're
not
set
in
stone
that
it
has
to
be
there.
They
would
definitely
go
to
the
west
if
we
were,
if
we
wanted
them
to.
If
we
got
rid
of
that
particular
building
there,
where
the
trolley
sits
in
now,
they
would
be
very
happy
to
go
to
the
west
and
extend
it
off
that
way.
Couldn't.
F
C
S
F
Here's
my
opinion,
but
I
believe
what
I
had
heard
originally
is
too
far
is
its
original
planned
area
by
this,
the
ice
rink
I,
don't
care
who
owns
that
land
there's
a
much
better
use
for
that
land.
Eventually,
then,
probably
a
storage
shed
I
would
love
to
see.
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea
for
us
to
work
out
something
here.
F
I
really
would
like
to
see
us
work
out
some
kind
of
a
land
swaps,
something
to
get
that
doesn't
cost
you
dollars,
but
we
start
clearing
up
some
of
these
multi
ownership
type
things,
because
eventually
they
come
down
to
being
problematic.
We've
seen
it
a
number
of
times
where
you
have
long
term
leases
short
term
leases.
V
B
Well,
we
were
just
looking
at
the
fact
that
we
do
not
only
for
the
farm
show
where
they
park
back
there
for
the
vendors
for
the
farm.
So
we
had
quite
a
few
of
the
athletic
teams
that
enter
the
south
door,
the
field
house
turf
area
and
they
parked
back
there,
the
baseball
and
that
type
of
thing,
and
they
also
do
some
parking
back
there
for
games.
They
store
some
of
their
stuff
back
there
and
meet
there
and
park
and
then
head
out
on
the
buses
to
various
baseball
games.
B
S
C
T
I
can't
speak
for
the
rest
of
them.
It
has
not
been.
The
question
has
not
been
asked
yet
so
I
really
don't
know
how
everyone
else
would
feel
about
that.
But
I
know
what
it
was
mentioned,
part
of
it
and
they
definitely
were
in
favor
of
doing
the
lease
at
this
point
because
of
where
we're
at
situation
right.
F
T
F
T
S
F
To
me
either
place
goes
I,
I
can
I
know
where
John's
coming
from
I.
Don't
know
how
those
people
that
live
there,
how
they
feel,
but
to
me
it's
six
one
half
dozen
other
as
far
as
its
functionality
there
for
you
and
the
parking
wreck,
but
I'm
all
in
favor
of
it.
But
I
would
really
like
to
see
some
kind
of
a
scenario
take
place
that
we're
not
on
this
double
ownership
issue.
I
just
ran.
V
S
C
C
C
D
F
C
M
T
C
U
C
S
O
Gonna
have
to
get
something
done
and
I
think
pretty.
For
the
most
part,
everybody
here's
agreement
that
areas,
it's
not
a
problem
with
us.
As
far
as
I
agree,
it's
Mike,
if
there's
some
way
to
do
something
where
the
land
issue
becomes
kind
of,
gets
cleaned
up,
that
that
would
be
nice.
But
beyond
that,
I
think
this
is
a
lot
better
spot
than
next.
T
E
Just
looking
at
the
diagram-
and
this
is
just
a
for
instance-
but
I
know
just
if
this
building
went
away,
we
could.
This
is
a
parcel
all
by
itself,
but
it
does
extend
up
into
the
building.
So
we
could,
if,
if
we
find
a
way,
this
parcel
could
be
partially
conveyed
off
to
the
county
and
then
give
them
a
perpetual
easement
through
this
driveway
and
entrance
here
for
a
quick,
easy
access
would
be
an
idea
and
just
as
a
for
instance,
on
how
to
get
past
where
we've
talked
about
tonight.