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A
B
C
C
It
says
Lord
that
blessed
is
the
nation
whose
God
is
the
Lord,
so
on
an
individual
level,
I
pray
Lord
that
we
can
grow
and
learn
how
to
serve
you
better
in
this
community
I
pray
as
a
group
that
we
can
have
United
agenda
in
the
betterment
of
water
tone
that
we
can
live
as
Christ
live
to
be
the
hands
and
feet
to
serve
one
another
and
to
bring
your
light
to
every
crevice
in
the
city.
I
pray
Lord
as
we
make
decisions
tonight.
F
G
E
H
H
E
B
B
J
F
F
B
A
posting
Friday
same
name
motion,
carries
item
number
three:
application
for
a
transfer
of
ownership
of
a
retail
on
off
sale;
malt
beverage
license
from
Alta
patio
Inc
doing
business
as
tequila
I'll,
tell
patio
at
7:15,
9th
Avenue
south
east
to
Maria
and
a
Rodriguez
doing
business
as
de
Kira
L
to
patio
at
the
same
location,
open
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
for
against
this,
seeing
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
look
for
a
motion
in
second
for
approval,
so
move
by
l'olam
ii
by
Danforth?
Any
discussion.
I
B
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
I
think
there
are
quite
a
few
people
to
speak
to
this,
and
I
would
ask
that
if
you
come
forward
to
speak
in
the
referral
of
time,
let's
keep
it
short
and
if
your
opinion
has
been
expressed
by
someone
else,
probably
doesn't
need
to
be
repeated.
I
want
everybody's
opinion
to
be
heard,
but
no
need
to
keep
repeating
over
and
over
so
we'll.
Take
those
who
favor
the
assessment
first
and
when
all
who
want
to
speak
in
favor
of
it
are
exhausted.
Then
we'll
have
those
against.
B
K
K
Nothing
really
time
did
not
allow
for
a
very
thorough,
but
still
we
have
56
property
owners
who
agreed
and
signed
this
petition
to
the
declined
and
we're
looking
at
about
70
properties
in
the
Uptown
that
are
represented
by
the
no
vote
as
property
and
business
owners.
We
continually
have
to
cut
costs,
work
smart
to
survive,
and
we
ask
that,
of
course,
the
city
operate
in
that
same
fashion.
You
know
a
decorative
items
like
the
flowers
and
the
music.
K
You
know,
as
I
mentioned
last
time,
I
was
here
that
my
property
taxes
went
up
13%.
This
would
be
another
additional
18%
for
a
total
of
31
percent
increase
in
one
hit,
not
sustainable,
unless
you
guys
know
something,
I
don't
know
on
how
to
operate
a
business
and
and
succeed
with
an
ongoing
burden
like
that
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
cost
of
labor
insurance,
the
cost
of
goods
utilities.
You
know
in
conclusion,
I
guess.
K
My
opinion
on
this
is
that
this
is
an
outdated
statute
and
there
may
be
better
better
ways
to
accomplish
the
goals
that
we
need,
because
we
all
do
agree
that
the
the
city
needs
to
be
revitalized.
If
that
is
possible
again,
the
world
is
changing,
as
Jeff
mentioned
last
time
of
internet
purchases
and
those
types
of
things
well,
I
see
our
community
changing,
also
to
where
the
heartbeat
of
the
town
is
out
by
the
interstate
with
the
franchises
and
those
types
of
businesses.
K
L
Last
time
when
I
was
here
in
case
over
I
simply
asked
for
a
plan,
it
says
here
at
the
bottom
of
the
letter
that
we
all
received
in
Vince
to
you,
meaning
to
two
times,
because
we
all
receive
that
letter
twice
because
of
errors
in
the
first
one,
but
your
it
says
your
property
has
been
assessed
whatever.
It
is
because
it's
based
on
mill
levy
times
the
value
of
our
properties
and
it
for
the
urban
renewal
plan.
L
L
M
Yes,
I'm
David,
Johnson
owner
of
century
building,
LLC
I'm,
not
sure
whether
or
not
this
is
the
proper
form
for
me
to
object.
I'm,
I'm,
more
objecting
to
the
assessment
of
my
building
that
has
yet
to
be
built.
The
assessment
is
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
a
a
three
star
garage:
that's
about
$40,000
per
stall,
so
I'm,
not
so
much
objecting
to
the
implementation
of
the
of
the
tax.
As
to
the
assessment
on
the
property.
N
I'm
Mike
Lawrence
I
own,
the
building
that
Harry's
is
in
one
thing:
I
have
no
problem
giving
money
to
that
places.
A
we
wrote
a
personal
check,
$500
to
go
to
the
skate
park
to
try
to
get
that
thing
rolling.
We
we
like
to
know
the
plan
and
obviously
I'm
picking
backing
on
that.
But
another
thing
that
I
kind
of
caught
on
is
I
the
more
money
I
spent
on
my
building
and
the
more
I
improved
it.
O
My
name
is
Mike
Lance
burger
I
collected
most
of
the
signatures
on
that
petition
and
I.
The
bottom
line
is
nobody
wants
to
pay
any
more
taxes
for
the
little
bit
of
benefit
they
might
see.
You
know
they
just
don't
see
it
I
think
most
people
want
to
take
their
that
money
and
they
could
spend
it
more
wisely
on
their
own
projects,
their
own
buildings
and
not
just
send
it
to
the
city
to
put
it
into
a
into
a
fund,
but
they
can
all
do
a
lot
of
repairs
on
their
own
buildings.
B
J
B
Second,
by
Ville
Hauer,
and
let's
have
some
discussion.
I
would
like
to
first
say
in
defense
of
this
being
on
the
agenda
that
the
urban
renewal
board
was
faced
with
in
during
the
budget
process,
looking
at
not
enough
money
in
the
urban
renewal
fund
to
pay
for
the
bathrooms
and
the
flowers
which
typically
come
out
of
that
fund,
and
so
they
were
charged
with
either
cutting
those
benefits
or
finding
money
to
pay
for
them.
And
here
is
the
opportunity
for
the
council
to
decide.
B
So
the
question
would
have
been
asked
if
they
hadn't
voted
to
put
it
on
the
agenda,
not
that
they
wanted
to
force
you
to
have
to
pay,
but
to
talk
about.
How
do
we
pay
for
those
amenities?
Is
it
appropriate
for
the
downtown
to
pay
for
them
out
of
the
urban
renewal
fund,
or
should
the
council
find
another
way
to
pay
for
them,
or
should
those
benefits
just
be
stopped?
Now
we
can't
stop
the
restroom
by
state
law.
B
We
must
provide
a
restroom
in
our
downtown
so
that
one,
if
this
fails,
the
council
will
have
to
find
another
way
to
fund
that
restroom.
The
flowers,
on
the
other
hand,
that's
up
to
you.
If,
if
this
passes,
then
we'll
have
a
fund
for
that,
if
not,
are
you
going
to
cut
them
back
to
fit
in
the
amount
of
money
that
would
be
remaining
if
any
or
just
stop
it
all
together.
J
I've
got
a
few
questions,
I'm,
not
sure,
probably
Shelley
I'm,
looking
at
you,
but
most
likely
on
this.
How
was
the
assessment
is
that,
based
on
the
county,
assessed
valuation?
Is
that,
where
that's
coming
from
okay
and
the
point
zero
zero
three
seventy-five?
Where
does
that
come
from?
How
is
that
arrived
at?
That's.
E
E
E
J
Okay
and
well,
you
kind
of
walk
us
through.
This
was
the
discussion
when
we
had
our
budget
hearing
kind
of
walk
us
through
I
mean
if
this
is
not
passed
or
if
it
would
be
passed.
What
is
the
plan
that
this
would
be
a
one-year
assessment?
I
mean
as
the
reserve
is
rebuilt
or
what's
the
duration
of
this
I
mean.
E
Every
assessment
is
for
one
year
so,
every
year
this
assessment
roll
would
come
in
front
of
the
City
Council
for
consideration,
and
the
assessment
is
only
good
for
that
next
year,
so
it
would
be
something
and-
and
we
did
up
until
2015
when
it
was
not
or
in
2014
for
the
2015
year-
was
not
renewed
up
until
that
point.
Every
year
we
went
through
this
assessment
process.
I
went
through
the
public
hearing,
adopted
it,
sent
it
to
the
County.
E
So
yes,
this
would
be
a
period
of
one
year
and
once
that
money
goes
into
the
urban
renewal
fund,
it
in
the
past
has
been
left
up
to
the
urban
renewal
district
and
that's
the
urban
renewal
board
that
is
appointed
by
the
mayor
to
kind
of
make
the
plan
for
that
money
and
to
appropriate
it
accordingly.
So
I
don't
see
that
that
would
be
any
different
here.
If
it
is
not
passed,
then
we'll
have
to
go
back
through
and
rework
the
budget,
because
there
will
be
about
$11,000
in
cash
left
at
the
end
of
2017.
E
That
could
be
used.
The
rest
of
the
available
cash
is
in
that
restricted
cash.
For
the
loans
and
that
they've
never
been
commingled
they've,
never
that
restricted
money
that
was
put
in
there
for
that
loan
program
has
never
been
used
to
fund
operations,
so
that
would
still
continue
that
money
would
still
be
in
there.
But
the
money
available
for
other
resources,
such
as
the
music,
the
decorations,
the
banners,
the
flowers
that
that
type
of
thing,
the
restrooms,
any
maintenance
to
the
restrooms.
Any
cleaning
supplies
the
cleaning
contract.
E
Those
type
of
things
would
have
to
be
relooked
at
and
I'd
have
to
come
with
some
recommendation
of
where
those
could
come
and
where
there
would
be
available
funds
and
I
guess
I
I
wouldn't
be
prepared
to
do
that.
We
do
have
a
CIP
meeting
coming
up
on
Thursday.
We
could
just
add
this
agenda
item
to
that,
and
then
talk
about
that
so
that
we
could
redo
the
the
ordinance
for
the
second
reading.
I
guess.
J
As
long
as
I
got
the
floor,
yet
I
guess
I
would
be
in
favor
of
that
I
mean
obviously
the
two
biggest
ones,
the
bathrooms
and
the
flowers.
The
bathroom
like
the
mayor
explained
we
haven't,
got
any
choice
than
that,
but
that
has
to
be
provided.
So
it's
a
matter
of
who's,
gonna
pay
for
it
flowers,
you
know:
that's
that's
optional,
I
mean,
if
they're
nice
to
have
it
but
again
who's
going
to
pay
for
it.
Iiii.
J
Don't
think
it's
fair
that
something
that
benefits
the
entire
community
is
borne
by
a
relatively
small
number
of
people.
I
realize
the
the
cash
crunch.
If
we're
gonna
have
we
have
to
have
the
bathrooms
we're
going
to
the
flour.
Somehow
we
got
to
pay
for,
but
I
don't
think
it's
fair
that
it
be
borne
by
by
the
the
parties
solely
downtown
so
but
I
so
I
would
be
in
favor
of
revisiting
this
Thursday
evening
we
have
our
CIP
hearing.
If
that
is
an
option
time
wise,
yet
jelly.
E
Q
And
that
makes
sense,
so
you
go
to
the
mall
and
they
have
one
bathroom
right.
It's
almost
the
same
concept,
I'm
assuming
correct
if
I
have
a
building
that
I
build
somewhere
all
by
itself
may
not
be
in
this
area,
and
this
is
probably
not
a
you
question
is
okay,
but
it
I'm,
assuming
I,
have
to
have
a
bathroom
in
there
public
bathroom
I'm.
R
Q
Okay,
because
really
I
do
know
that
some
of
the
businesses
downtown,
if
you
are
down
there,
that
they
do
have
restroom
facilities,
that
you
can
use
and
others
don't
so
I.
Obviously
it
almost
seems
unfair
for
the
people
that
have
invested
in
that
and
have
that
that
that
they
got
to
pay
for
this
bathroom
I
can
see
those
that
don't
have
it
where
they
should,
because
they
don't
have
that
ability
for
their
their
customers
to
do
that.
The
flowers
are
nice,
but
they're
not
required.
The
the
bathroom
is
required
and
I
think
some.
Q
My
view
is
that
lack
has
always
lacked
a
plan.
There's
always
an
array
of
disagreement
amongst
the
members
of
the
district
and
there's
lack
unity.
There's
no
buy
into
it.
I,
don't
know
what
the
purpose
or
the
mission
of
the
urban
renewal
district
is.
To
be
quite
frank.
So
it's
hard
for
me
to
sit
here
and
ask
these
people
to
pay
a
tax
on
something
that
I
as
a
council
person.
Don't
really
even
understand.
Q
Why
we're
doing
it
if
they
don't
believe
in
it,
because
it
should
benefit
them.
If
they
don't
believe
in
it,
then
why
would
we
tax
them?
But
the
other
side
of
that,
then,
is
certain
things
that
may
have
been
taking
place
may
not
take
place,
but
I
wouldn't
want
to
know
where
my
money's
going
I
would
rather
put
it
into
my
own
building,
then
put
it
in
somebody
else's
hands.
P
But
on
behalf
of
the
board,
I
served
on
that
for
quite
a
while.
You
do
have
X
number
of
dollars
and
we
have
been
instructed
as
we're
instructed
as
to
what
we
were
going
to
use
those
dollars
for,
and
so
when
you're
told
obviously
and
Shelley
would
do
a
great
job
of
saying.
You
know
what
you
can't
pay
the
bills
we've
been
paying.
Then
what
would
be
the
choice
that
would
be
to
come
to
this
board
and
say:
what
can
we
do?
What
can
we
do
about
it?
P
Well,
these
people
don't
want
it
so
really
Thursday
night
it's
going
to
be
up
to
and
well
maybe,
if
we
don't
pass
this,
then
Thursday
night,
it's
going
to
be
up
to
us
to
work
with
Shelley
and
say:
do
we
really
want
the
flowers
and
if
we
do
is
City
going
to
pay
for
flowers
for
beautification
sake
or
whatever
else
it
is,
but
I
served
on
that
board
and
I'm
telling
you
they
have
their
hearts
in
the
right
place.
P
I
F
F
I
Q
F
Q
I
Think
we
have
to
take
a
look
at
a
long-term
plan
and
put
the
other
projects.
This
is
if
you're
gonna
put
those
in
place
and
I,
don't
know
if
some
of
these
people
haven't
seen
some
headshakes,
but
if
we
have
a
plan,
look
we
want
to
do
this.
This
is
what
it's
gonna
cost.
This
is
what
the
money
is
gonna
go
towards.
You
know,
so,
there's
an
end
date
type
deal
not
just
a
revolving.
We're
constantly
paying
this
kind
of
money
out.
You
know
up
to
$1,500
which
it's
the
building
owner,
not
the
business
owner.
I
That's
a
lot
of
people,
don't
realize
it's
the
building
owner
that
pays
that
so
are
they
going
to
be
able
to
get
an
extra
120
dollars
a
month
and
rent
to
pay
the
tax
on
it?
So
I
don't
know,
I
don't
have
that
answer.
I
would
assume
that
most
things,
people
are
saying.
No,
so
if
you
can,
if
you
can
find
a
project
that
you've
that
they
feel
is
appropriate
and
we
feel
as
appropriate
as
a
city,
and
you
can
utilize
that
money
towards
it,
I'm.
I
S
Dan
I
know
we
talked,
there's
been
talk
about
what
the
plan
is
or
what
what
the
plan
isn't,
but
just
for
clarification,
I
mean
just
just
put
it
out
there.
So
everybody
understands
it's
not
just
about
flowers
and
it's
not
just
about
a
bathroom
but
also
includes
like
banners,
Christmas
decorations.
So
when
those
things
start
lacking,
there
will
be
a
noticeable
difference
other
than
just
flowers.
During
the
three
months
of
summer,
we're
gonna
have
banners
up
seasonally
through
this
throughout
the
year
and
Christmas
lights
in
the
Christmas
season.
F
N
B
Q
R
I
thought
we
were
closed
up
on
that,
but
thanks
for
letting
me
here,
yeah
I
was
on
your
assumption
that
the
Park
and
Rec
took
care
of
flowers
uptown.
That's
what
I
had
heard
from
some
somebody.
They.
R
R
You
know
if
we
want
some
music,
why
geyser
pipe
pipe
stood
out
of
his
building
all
day
long,
and
you
know
he
gets
to
play
what
he
wants
to,
but
I
would
just
say
that
we
don't
want
to
be
taxed
any
more
than
we
already
are
just
to
be
equal
on
the
board
of
all
the
property
and
business
owners
that
are
in
Uptown,
and
you
know
other
places
we
want
to
be
even
with
them
at
least
so.
We
can
kind
of
be
on
the
same
level.
H
B
Q
Just
like
that,
I
think
the
city's
responsibility
is
to
help
provide
the
the
structure
or
the
infrastructural
part
of
our
any
part
of
our
community
and
to
not
in
our
uptown
area.
You
know
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
good
sidewalks
and
we
have
good
alleys,
and
you
know
what,
if
we
deem
as
part
of
our
management
of
that
area,
that
we
need
bike
racks
and
we
should
have
bike
racks
or
I,
don't
think
it's
our
place
necessarily
to
use
taxpayer
dollars
any
differently
than
we
would
in
any
other
area.
Q
You
know
if
we
spend
dollars
uptown
for
for
the
Art
Walk
the
statues
that
are
out
there,
then
how
do
I
answer
to
somebody
that's
out
on
magic
mile
or
out
someplace
else
that
well
we'd
like
to
have
statues,
or
we
would
like
flowers
out
here.
How
do
I
answer
to
its
okay
in
this
area,
but
not
to
those
other
areas
and
we're
using
our
taxpayer
dollars
to
do
that.
So
we've
got
to
be
careful
with
that,
because
we
do
set
precedence.
Q
Q
If
you
all
agree
on
that's
where
you
want
your
dollars
to
go,
but
otherwise
not
and
I
will
say,
I
see,
Mike's
come
out
I,
it
does
seem
a
lot
to
me.
I
get
it
that
it's
based
on
the
value
of
property,
but
it
kind
of
does
work
against
you
that
gee,
if
I
put
money
into
my
proper
I
get
taxed
more
now
we
get
that
on
that
on
the
on
the
assessment.
Rolls
I
get
that
you
know,
but
in
this
particular
case
it
seems
a
lot.
I.
Think.
N
Mike
Lawrence
again
with
Harry's
one
thing
that
I
think
a
lot
of
us
are
wondering
is:
where
do
the
flowers
on
81
come
from?
Where
do
the
banners
all
throughout
highway
212
come
from?
Are
we
not
taxed
the
same
way
they
are
or
do
they
have
a
special
assessment
that
gives
them
flowers
and
banners
and-
and
we
don't
I
mean
that's
that's
what
I
think
old,
yeah
I
think
that's
where
a
lot
of
people
are
thinking.
How
can
we
don't
have
the
same
role
that
they
do
we're?
N
N
Come
up
and,
like
I
said
I,
don't
think,
there's
anyone
who
doesn't
want
downtown
to
be
better
and
and
pay
for
a
fair
share,
but
when
you
talk
fifty
eight
thousand
dollars
and
twelve
thousand
of
it
goes
to
bathrooms,
that's
a
lot
of
flowers.
You
know
and
I
know
that
the
rest
isn't
you
know
and
and
flowers.
N
N
Maybe
that's
something
we
need
to
look
into
as
for
ten
thousand
dollar
savings
and
and
there's
a
I
believe
there
would
be
a
lot
more
planted
on
eighty
one.
When
you
drive
up
and
down
that's
a
lot
of
flowers
planted
there.
You
know,
whereas
how
many
I
don't
know
how
many
baskets
there
are
on
about
fifty
baskets.
So
fifty
baskets
that
we
have
to
plant
for
$12,000
seems
seems
excessive
to
me,
but
thank
you
for
your
time.
O
My
clans,
burger
again,
you
know
I'm
gonna,
go
back
to
a
little
bit
of
what
Jeff
Otto
said.
You
know
on
First
Avenue
is
on
both
sides.
We
don't
really
see
any
benefit
and
more
more
power
to
the
folks
on
Kemp
that
get
a
little
bit
of
a
benefit,
but
most
of
us
on
the
first
avenues
and
maybe
a
little
bit
on
Maple
and
Broadway.
They
get
a
benefit,
but
we
don't
see
nothing.
We
don't
see
anything
from
it.
O
Q
Air,
let
me
ask-
and
maybe
this
is
a
I-
don't
know
who's
this
question
to
but
I'll
point
it
to
you
can't
we
can't
they
have
their
urban
renewal
board
as
they
want
and
bring
projects
to
us
as
they
want
and
agree
upon
as
a
group,
and
if
that
requires
some
city
funding
come
ask
for
it,
but
if
they're
gonna
have
to
have
it
most
likely,
they're
gonna
have
to
implement
some
type
of
attacks.
If
that's
what
they
want
to
get
done
as
a
group
upon
themselves,
but
they're
the
ones
initiating
it
at
that
point.
B
Action
of
passing
the
assessment
just
moved
it,
the
counsel
for
you
to
answer,
because
if
they
hadn't
moved
to
bring
that
forward
to
the
council,
then
their
only
choice
would
have
been
to
cut
and
they
they
didn't
want
to
cut
those
benefits.
So
the
the
urban
renewal
board
is
saying:
we'd,
like
these
benefits
to
continue.
I
D
I
And
then
it
gets
paid
all
in
the
first
first
half
of
taxes
for
assessments.
So
that's
why
it
went
in
that's
why
there's
none
it's
a
new
River
into
a
board
the
boards
actually
new
as
well,
so
they
don't
have
some
of
those
in
place.
That's
why
it
came
forward
as
fast
as
it
did,
and
there
is
not
the
plan
so
I
think.
If
we
look
at
it,
we
really
have
taken
back
a
year
and
factored
in
some
new
projects
that
this
is
what
we
want
to
do.
Q
Q
K
F
U
B
B
Money
for
flowers,
okay,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
second
reading
of
ordinance
number
17
30
amending
section.
Twenty
one
point:
six:
three:
zero:
three
of
the
revised
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Watertown
to
allow
for
Less
restrictions
on
loading,
docks
in
the
Iowans,
owning
districts
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing.
B
B
Permission
being
granted
contrary
to
our
ordinance,
and
so
that
tells
me
there's
something
wrong
with
the
ordinance
and
I'm
suggesting
that
we
change
it.
I
personally
think
that
the
ordinance
as
written
is
restrictive
too
much
so
especially
in
industrial
zones,
and
when
we
first
started
talking
about
this,
we
were
only
talking
about
expanding
into
the
I
one
zone,
but
with
further
discussion
it
sounds
like
we
may
want
to
expand
it
even
further
to
commercial
zones
as
well
at
least
some
of
the
commercial
zones.
B
E
Q
We
had
discussed
this
at
the
work
session
at
length
and
as
long
as
we
can
can
I
believe,
are
you
still
here?
Okay,
okay!
As
long
as
we
can
meet
our
objective
in
regards
to
safety
and
some
of
the
other
issues
that
go
along
with
it,
we
either
have
the
option
to
pass
this
and
then
come
back
and
modify
it
here
in
a
little
while
or
not
pass
it
and
go
through
a
process
of
getting
the
language
done.
B
In
order
for
this
to
pass
tonight,
it
requires
two-thirds
of
the
council,
since
the
plan
commission
did
not
support
the
proposed
amendment
and
that's
a
full
Council
of
ten
two-thirds
of
that
right,
not
2/3
of
those
present.
So
that
means
all
seven
of
you
have
to
vote
in
favor.
In
order
for
this
to
pass.
Q
J
Fit
I'm
in
favor
of
passing
it
as
it
is,
and
if
we
want
to
look
at
expanding
it
or
liberalizing
whichever
the
terminology
would
be
at
a
few
at
a
future
time,
I'm
in
favor
of
it
I,
guess
and
I,
don't
want
to
put
anybody
in
the
spot,
but
I
mean
the
Planning.
Commission
did
not
pass
this
I
guess.
Are
there
any
any
thoughts
as
to
why
that
did
not
happen?
J
S
And
there
was
some
concern
that
if
we
didn't
shield
or
or
alter
how
the
driveways
or
these
loading
docks
were
organized
in
the
property
that
there
would
be
some
detriment
to
the
properties
owners
across
the
street,
but
I
think
we've
kind
of
since
then
at
least
just
discovered
that
those
opportunities
are
going
to
be
few
and
far
between.
That
would
impact
the
properties
across
the
street.
S
And
if
we
keep
the
trucks
off
of
the
street
and
do
all
their
turning
movements
on
private
property
and
assemble
the
loading
docks
that
they're
not
going
to
have
as
big
an
impact
on
the
private
citizens.
Now,
that's
just
my
interpretation
of
the
discussion,
but
that
was
a
primary
reason
that
they
did
not
move
it
forward
positively.
W
My
name
is
Mark
Stein
I'm
on
the
Planning
Commission.
Actually
that
was
why
I'm
here
tonight,
but
what
it
asked
for
some
input
on
that
just
some
insight.
We,
the
Planning
Commission,
was
a
split
vote.
I
think
it
was
three
to
three
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
there
definitely
was
some
positive
movement
toward
a
change.
I
think
Shane
said
it
well
in
that
it
was,
it
was
just
confusing
it
was
it
was.
W
It
was
the
not
enough
clarity,
I
think
for
the
for
the
Planning
Commission
to
feel
comfortable
passing
it,
but
definitely
they
could
see
both
sides.
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
that
that
there
was
a
strong
opinion,
anti
changing
it.
If
you
will
I
just
think
that
perhaps
was
some
of
the
clarity
that
you
guys
have
been
talking
about,
that
that
would
have
probably
been
received
more
favorably
at
the
Planning
Commission
level
and.
Q
The
only
thing
I
would
add
is
whatever
motion
that
we
have
that
we
put
the
condition
in
there
and
maybe
Ken
can.
Can
you
know
weird
Smith,
that
for
us
that
that
we're
gonna
pass
it
in
the
in
the
current
request
or
moves
forward,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
conform
to
what
we
want
it
to
be.
So
that
should
be
a
part
of
that
motion
right.
V
X
E
Q
Q
Q
V
X
D
X
X
B
B
Item
number:
six:
second:
reading
of
ordinance
number
17
33
amending
chapter
21,
80
and
2190
of
the
revised
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Watertown
to
update
the
sign
code.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
for
against
this?
Please
come
forward
and
state
your
name
into
the
microphone
for
the
record.
Y
Y
Have
that
in
front
of
me
to
read
to
you
on
our
opinion
about
the
sign
ordinance
where
you
are
going
to
make
it
illegal
for
us
to
use
an
air
dancer
three
times
a
year
and
the
little
signs
that
we
put
up
on
our
own
property
that
are
only
up
for
about
ten
days
at
a
time,
and
then
we
take
down
so
we'd
like
to
still
be
able
to
use
these
forms
of
advertising.
We
do
spend
several
thousand
dollars
to
advertise
our
different
sales.
Y
We
do
mailers,
we
do
TV,
we
do
radio,
we
do
different
things,
but
we
also
track
our
sales
and
a
lot
of
times
the
people
that
come
in
come
in
because
they
see
the
signs.
They
see
the
the
air
dancer.
They
see
things
in
like
hey,
you
know,
because
we
don't
have
the
best
visibility
where
we're
at.
We
are
about
a
half
a
block
off
of
two
twelve,
but
we
have
had
a
phenomenal
state,
fair
sale.
Y
This
last
ten
days
and
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
continue
to
have
those
kind
of
sales,
so
the
email
that
you
got
today,
I'm
going
to
read
it
to
you
in
case
you
did
not
read
it
and
I
also
want
it
for
a
public
record,
hello,
councilmembers
and
mayor
I
would
like
to
address
the
sign
ordinance.
First
of
all,
we
want
to
thank
you
for
the
hard
work
that
you
do.
Y
It
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
run
a
city
which
is
a
business,
and
my
husband
and
I
were
recently
informed
of
the
proposed
changes
in
the
sign
ordinance
and
until
we
had
read
about
this,
we
were
unaware
that
using
our
signs
and
our
inflatable
air
dancer
were
both
against
the
city,
ordinance,
otherwise,
I
wouldn't
have
spent
$2,000
to
buy
that
air
dancer.
I
did
not
see.
We
did
not
know
that
the
site
Noren
ordinance,
had
limits
on
the
use
of
real
estate
type
signs
which
are
professionally
made
inflatables
and
banners.
Y
Your
points
on
how
unkempt
signs
and
banners
look
bad
around
the
city
is
understandable.
However,
their
use
is
also
profitable.
We
have
done
research
on
our
sales
at
our
family-owned
business
here
in
Watertown,
and
we
have
had
a
huge
increase
in
sales
when
we
started
using
the
real
estate
style
signs
and
our
air
dancer.
We
also
track
how
our
large
ticket
sale
customers
heard
about
our
sale.
Many
new
customers
have
stopped
in
because
they
saw
the
street
signs
and
our
air
dancer.
We
call
him
mr.
happy,
that's
why
his
name
is
in
there.
Mr.
Y
happy,
our
air
dancer
has
become
a
very
valuable
asset
to
our
advertising
strategy.
Bringing
in
the
customers
that
are
driving
by
I
know
that
I
only
have
a
small
business
here
in
Watertown
and
that
you
only
get
$30,000
from
us
with
the
2%
tax
last
year
you
did,
but
that
is
not
a
lot
of
money.
When
you're
talking
about
spending,
you
know
twelve
thousand
dollars
to
clean
bathrooms.
I
know.
Y
Our
proposal
for
the
city
is
to
allow
for
professionally
made
real
estate
type
signs,
buy
five
or
ten
day
permits
the
same
way
that
the
city
allows
for
the
large
signs
by
permit
I
have
two
signs
that
I
came
up
here
and
got
permits
for
$25,
apiece
and
they're
very
large
and
I
and
I'm
willing
to
pay.
You
know
to
put
my
signs
up
to
advertise.
We
would
like
for
you
to
use
the
same
rules
on
the
real
estate
signs
for
positioning
on
the
Lots.
Y
We
are
aware
that
contractors
use
them
to
advertise
to
get
their
names
out
there
and
we
use
them
when
we're
having
a
big
sale.
We
would
be
very
happy
to
pay
a
permit
for
our
issue
for
our
air
dancer
to
be
used,
and
we
also
agree
that
you
should
not
allow
that
cheap
cardboard
signs.
That
I
was
told,
look
like
a
parasite
around
the
city.
Those
do
blow
down
and
fall
in
the
road
and
stuff
like
that.
So
I
can
understand
not
wanting
to
have
those
kind
of
things.
Y
Our
sales
are
normally
10
to
12
days,
and
while
we
do
know
that
there
are
other
people
that
advertise
similarly
the
way
we
they
only
have
two
to
three
day
sales
at
different
locations,
and
we
also
believe
that
contractors
should
be
allowed
to
put
up
a
sign
for
maybe
a
week
after
their
job
by
permit.
We
hope
that
you
will
find
benefit
and
allowing
us
to
advertise
with
these
great
tools
in
a
reasonable
manner,
and
we
are
willing
to
pay
permits
to
be
allowed
to
use
them.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Lila.
Z
I'm
Terry
Sorensen
I'm,
one
of
the
owners
of
true
green
but
I,
also
own
Porky's
barbecue,
which
is
a
mobile
barbecue
place
here
in
Watertown
that
we
started
this
year
and
been
planning
it
for
about
five
years,
and
this
year
we
took
the
the
jump
in
to
doing
it
and
spend
about
a
hundred
grand
putting
it
all
together.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
ordinances
and
I.
Don't
have
a
problem
with
regulating
things
that
are
out
of
place.
Obviously,
when
you
own
a
business,
you
want
it
to
look
good
anyways.
Z
So
why
would
anybody
want
it
to
look
ridiculous
but
at
the
same
time,
I
owned
a
million
half
dollar
company
and
I
budget
a
large
amount
for
advertising
radio
and
doing
all
that,
but
at
the
same
time
I
own
a
little
teeny
company?
That's
just
starting
out
and
radio
TV
Internet
I
did
a
bunch
of
internet
stuff
this
year
through
midco,
but
it
still
cost
me
$6,000
to
do
that.
Z
Z
You
know
if
you
are
gonna
require
a
permit.
That's
fine
I
understand
that
when
I
started,
the
business
I
had
to
get
a
transient
permit
from
the
city,
which
I
was
really
thankful,
that
they
were
allowing
me
to
use
that
so
I
could
park
at
peddlers
market
or
downtown
with
you,
don't
with
no
problems
at
the
same
time
we're
just
trying
to
survive
company.
You
know,
I
I,
understand
that
starting
it
wasn't
gonna,
be
a
big
profit.
Z
I
understood
that
it
was
a
risk
that
I
took,
but
at
the
same
time
I
still
think
it
benefited
both
the
peddlers
market
and
the
city.
We
were
providing
something
that
people
wanted
and
by
advertising
or
having
a
sign
out.
That
said,
we
have
a
special.
Today
was
one
of
those
things.
If
you
don't
allow
them
or
you
take
all
of
our
options
away,
how
are
we
going
to
let
people
know
what
we
are
offering?
You
know
I
I,
guess
I'm,
just
confusing,
even
in
your
ordinances,
the
proposed
words
and
ordinance
here.
Z
It
says
that
they're
allowed
but
then
add
another
line.
It
says
that
there's
four
open
houses
and
and
new
businesses
only
there's
one
section
that
says
45
days
that
you
can
use
them
for
the
year
and
then
in
another
section
it
says
you,
you
can't
use
them
for
the
Grand
Openings
or
whatever
so
I'm
a
little
confused
on
on
where
it's
going
with
with
these
signs
and
like
I,
said
I'm
not
opposed
to
him
at
all.
Z
It's
where
those
rental
places
are
easy
store.
That
thing
was
so
distractive
because
it
was
flashing
at
night.
I
saw
someone
almost
jumped
the
curb
because
they
were
watching
it
and
they
actually
have
a
game
going,
because
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
why
someone
would
watch
it
like
that.
They
have
a
game
going
that
says.
If
you
can
watch
the
board
and
write
down
all
the
advertisers
that
on
that
particular
board
and
take
them
to
their
office,
they
sign
you
up
for
a
game
and
you're
able
to
win
a
prize.
Z
Z
You
know
so
I
understand
the
distraction,
part
of
it,
but
we
have
to
use
common
sense
on
some
of
it
too.
I.
Don't
think.
All
of
this
is
the
distraction
and
I
think
if
we
use
it
in
good
taste-
and
it
looks
professional
I
think
we
can
all
work
through
it
and
make
it
look
better.
I'm
all
for
working
together
on
it.
I
just
think
that
cutting
it
out
totally
you're
gonna
do
some
damage
that
you
don't
understand.
AA
Hello,
I'm
Tom
white,
with
Dakota
satellite
you've,
probably
seen
me
around
town
with
our
portable
trailer
our
set
up
with
the
same
thing
he
was
talking
about.
We
used
the
inflatable
air
dancer
as
well
organized
about
one
or
two
times
a
month:
advertising
the
radio,
social
media
and
very
organized
in
the
paper
that
he
was
talking
about
that
inflatable
signs
are
allowed
with
a
permit,
but
not
inflatable
figures,
so
we
were
kind
of
unsure
why
that
is
and
why
inflatable
figures
aren't
allowed
at
all.
AA
Q
AA
Q
What
becomes
an
issue
is
when
we
have
a
multitude
of
different
types
of
signage
that
can
and
is
placed
on
properties
and
the
numbers
of
those
signs
and
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
the
lady
that
was
here
talking
about
the
Oasis
I
went
by
your
area.
Today,
you
got
eight
seven
signs
up
today:
okay,
seven
signs,
that's
the
point
that
people
go
when
is
enough
enough,
and
we
do
hear
about
it.
We've
seen
auto
dealerships
that
have
balloons
that
they
have
tied
to
the
vehicles
that
blow
out
over
the
road.
Q
AA
AA
Q
Need
to
be
managed
and
managed,
unfortunately,
is
going
to
mean.
There's
gonna
have
to
be
restrictions
on
them,
whether
they,
if
they
do
exist,
we're
gonna
have
to
have
some
accumulation,
some
matrix,
something
that's
going
to
put
requirements
on
them.
That's
like
that.
A
pizza
joint
doesn't
need
six
signs
on
their
boulevard.
Saying
we
deliver
okay,
so
we've
got
work
to
do
on
it.
There's
no
question:
you
know
I
through
our
discussion
today
and
after
our
meeting.
Q
My
feeling
was
that
this
is
not
ready
to
be
passed.
I
still,
don't
think
it's
ready
to
be
passed,
but,
as
Mark
Steyn
said,
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
in
there.
That
now
are
gonna
get
held
up
that
if
we
don't
pass,
it
now
creates
problems
from
the
other
side.
So
we
either
pass
it
as
it's
written
and
come
back
and
address
the
issues
that
you
guys
have
talked
about,
or
we
don't
pass
it
and
we
still
got
to
deal
with
them.
Q
AA
V
Q
V
B
AA
Q
J
J
I've
got
a
question:
I
wasn't
involved
in
the
process
that
that
brought
us
to
this
point.
I
I
did
ask
at
the
first
reading
couple
weeks
ago,
who
were
some
of
the
parties
involved
and
I
and
Justin
at
that
time,
rattled
off
quite
a
quite
an
impressive
list
and
people
that
I
respect
as
far
as
their
judgment.
J
There
are
what
nine
approximately
nine
meetings
I
understand,
based
on
the
information
we've
got,
half
of
them
involving
members
of
public.
What
kind
of
turnout
from
the
public
or
input
from
the
public
was
had
at
those
media,
I'm
I'm,
not
sure.
When
directing
my
question
to
necessarily
who
was
at
those
beings
that
best
be
able
to
answer
that
I
mean
were.
V
J
And
I
guess:
that's
part
of
what
I've
got
somewhat
a
problem
with
I
mean
I,
hear
the
concerns.
I'm,
not
I'm,
nothing
I,
don't
agree
with
them,
but
by
the
same
token,
there
there
were
opportunities
the
past
year
and
a
half
that's
being
worked
on
for
people
to
have
some
input
in
this
and
now
we're
not
getting
the
complaints
until
we're
ready
to
to
act
on
this.
They.
AA
H
Q
So
most
of
it,
which
is
historical
on
any
of
the
the
sign
code
meetings
that
I've
been
a
part
of
for
many
many
years.
It's
it
has
a
tendency
to
be
the
those
people
that
are
in
the
business
of
selling
those
leasing,
those
renting
those
where
the
where
the
input
comes
from
it
has
not
been
very
much
from
the
actual
users
and.
AA
B
AA
D
B
AA
E
Any
of
our
agendas
are
on
our
city
website
and
they're
posted
there.
You
can
go
on
and
do
a
notify
me
and
you
can
get
a
text
message
or
an
email
of
any
work
session,
and
then
you
just
click
on
a
link
and
it'll.
Take
you
to
the
work
session.
I'll,
take
you
to
the
council
agenda
and
we
always
try
to
have
those
by
the
Thursday
prior
and
you
can
look
and
see
if
there's
anything
that
you're
interested
in
because
you
know
all
of
this
went
on
a
work
session.
E
It's
been
on
now
two
council
agenda.
So
that's
another
outlet
for
you
to
use,
because
we
do
have
that
we
always
post
it
outside
the
council
chamber
doors.
Also,
you
can
also
stop
by
you.
Can
look
at
and
I
know
the
public.
Any
public
meeting
is
posted
outside
there,
so
you
can
always
stop
by
and
look
and
see
what
meetings
are
posted
see
if
there's
anything
there
as
well,
but.
E
E
Involved
in
City
right
right,
but
those
those
types
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
section
on
the
on
the
website
forum,
but
every
work
session
and
council
agenda,
we
do
when
we
have
posted
that
sign.
This
ordinance
has
been
up
for
discussion,
so
I
mean
that
is
available
and
it's
something
that
we
try
to
promote
with
anybody
in
the
community.
E
If
you
want
to
know
sign
up
for
that,
notify
me
and
it's
a
great
tool
and
it
lets
you
know,
and
you
can
sign
up
for
every
single
agenda
that
comes
out
so
that
you
know
what's
what's
going
on
and
everything
that
gets
posted
you
can
get
notified
and
determine
whether
you
want
to
attend
or
not.
So
it
is
a
good
outlet.
AA
And
I
see
the
other
side
to
that.
You
guys
past
things
and
move
on
with
some
people
have
been
waiting
a
long
time,
but
a
grace
period.
If
you
will
have
so
many
other
things
would
be
nice.
So
you
can
continue
to
market
ourselves,
just
small
local
businesses
and
then
come
together
and
meet
in
the
middle
and
some
of
the
other
issues.
D
AA
Q
B
B
Q
D
B
Q
Means
he's
not
gonna
be
able
to
use
his
air
signs
tomorrow
or
whatever
day
at
20
days
from
now,
right,
I
think
what
he's
saying
is:
could
we
have
a
grace
period
on
some
of
those
that
says?
Okay,
we're
gonna
talk
about
those
air
things
anyway.
Can
we
have
a
grace
period
on
this
part
of
the
ordinance
of
its
passed
even.
G
AA
AA
B
W
W
When
people
talk
about
sign
blade,
they
talk
about
frequently
east
highway,
212,
just
east
of
highway
81,
where
there's
a
lot
of
signs
that
are
close
together,
including
some
billboards,
including
some
on-premise
signs,
but
those
all
were
constructed
under
the
old
sign
code
that
was
out
that
was
replaced
20
years
ago.
You
know
for
that
matter,
so
don't
think
it's
fair
to
just
categorize
all
signs
as
signed
blight
and
that
we
need
more
rules
and
regulations
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
W
All
that
being
said-
and
this
is
gonna
sound,
weird
coming
from
a
sign
guide
but
I
would
encourage
the
council
to
pass
this
sign
code.
Reason
being
is
because
you're
never
going
to
get
a
perfect
sign
code,
you're
always
going
to
have
things
that
people
don't
like
things
that
are
restrictive
people
things
that
people
think
that
are.
W
They
should
be
special
cases
for
you
know,
and,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people-
you
know
I'm
at
the
company
that
I
own
and
also
other
sign
companies
in
town
that
have
a
lot
of
people
that
rely
on
manufacturing
and
selling
signs.
I
get
all
that-
and
that's
that's
very,
very
important,
but
also
we
need
to
have
some
type
of
structure.
Some
type
of
enforcement.
With
these
signed
codes
that
we
have.
We
can
have
all
their
sign
code,
rules
and
regulations
the
world,
but
for
not
going
to
enforce
them.
Then
we're
wasting
everybody's
time.
W
You
know,
and
so
that
would
be
my
position-
is
that
the
sign
code
that
has
been
presented-
that's
been
worked
on
for
hours
and
hours
and
hours
countless
hours
by
everybody
that
was
involved
over
the
last
year
year
and
a
half
isn't
perfect.
I'll
be
the
first
didn't
acknowledge
that
I'll
also
be
the
first
one
to
acknowledge
that
that
there
are
parts
of
it
that
are
that
are
restrictive,
that
are
going
to
impact
our
company
I
get
that
too.
But
if
we're
gonna
try
to
work
toward
a.
W
AA
B
T
Dye
own
extreme
360
here
in
Watertown
and
I
guess
I
just
have
a
lot
of
questions
as
far
as
this
goes
on
some
of
the
science,
because
there's
so
many
things
here
that
just
don't
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
it's
not
you
know
the
blow-up
inflatables,
it's
not
the
teardrop
banners.
It's
it's
not
those
things.
It's
just
on.
T
Just
the
building
identifications,
just
a
regular
sign
on
the
building
that
are
not
there
I
guess
we
just
can't
have
them
and
I
guess:
I,
don't
understand
that
you
know
I
just
spent,
you
know
thousand
dollars
on
a
sign
in
March
to
put
on
the
front
of
the
building
and
it's
you
know
it
I
wasn't
aware
of
any
ordinances
on
this
when
I
least
my
building,
it
wasn't
told
to
me
about
any
ordinances.
It
is
fixed
to
the
building
it's
bolted,
and
now
I'm
told
that
I
can't
have
this
sign
is.
T
Nobody
told
me
about
having
a
permit
the
owner
of
the
building.
Nobody
was
actually
there
was
a
sign
that
was
left
there
that
was
removed
and
I
was
told
that
I
could
put
any
kind
of
sign
I
wanted.
They
would
fit
to
that
structure
that
was
already
built
on
to
the
building
and
that's
what
I've
done
I
would
have
to.
Y
T
Q
P
P
T
4Th
Avenue
Southwest
and
then
my
other
question
is,
as
far
as
the
advertising
goes,
I
mean
I'm
right.
There
I've
spent
a
ton
of
money
on
on
advertising,
radio
and
and
social
media.
It's
endless
and
I've
gotten
more
response
from
a
professional
side.
I
had
built
are
made
from
local
company
and
I
just
built,
basically
the
stand
for
it
and
then
I
would
sandbag
the
corners
of
it
holding
it
down.
T
That's
on
a
banner
and
to
just
take
those
away
would
eliminate
that
business
for
sure,
because
just
in
since
March
is
when
we've
moved
to
the
front,
I
did
have
a
shop
we've
been
in
business
in
Watertown
now
19
months
and
in
the
back
it
was
horrible
because
there's
no
traffic,
there's
nothing.
It
was
all
done
by
advertising
radio
and
social
media
newspaper.
T
It
was
nothing.
There
was
nothing
there
and
then
I
had
the
opportunity
to
move
up
front
and
that's
what
we've
done
in
just
those
two
signs
have
made.
It
made
it
possible
to
stay
in
business
in
Watertown.
These
two
signs
eliminated
from
my
business
would
kill
my
business
so
I.
Just
think
that
you
know
we
need
to
take
into
a
lot
of
considerations
and
I'm,
just
one
small
guy,
there's
a
bunch
of
guys
out
there
that
are
I'm
sure
in
the
same
boat
as
I.
Am
that
we
just
need
to
you
know.
T
T
It
wasn't
I,
don't
think
a
bad
thing,
but
I
understand
the
clutter.
Danforth
I
completely
understand
that,
but
I
think
limitations
are
probably
a
better
solution
than
just
removing
them.
I
mean
they're
they're
huge
for
a
small
business
guys,
and
you
know,
like
I,
said
I'm
just
one
that
would
those
two
signs
eliminated
I'd
shut
my
doors
for
good
Thanks.
T
B
Y
B
Y
Name
is
Lila
Pete's
I'm,
the
owner
of
Home,
Oasis
and
I
heard
you
had
a
lot
of
pictures
of
my
business
and
if
we
overdid
it
because
we
didn't
know
there
was
a
sign
ordinance,
you
know
we're
happy
to
follow.
You
know
the
rules,
but
we
just
didn't
know
that
like
when
they
were
talking
about
getting
mr.
happy.
We've
had
him
since
2016
and
we
didn't
know
that
he
was
not
allowed
in
the
city
of
Watertown
and
when
you
say
that
people
have
complained
to
you
about,
maybe
the
way
my
business
looks.
Y
It
would
sure
be
nice.
If
somebody
would
tell
me
I
had
no
idea
that
anybody,
you
know
you
say
well,
people
are
complaining
and
there's
these
you
know
there's
too
many
sign.
Okay,
let
us
know
what
we're
doing
wrong
instead
of
just
taking
him
away
from
us,
but
as
far
as
what
he
was
mentioning
as
far
as
a
business
goes
just
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
into
numbers,
but
I
think
you
are
I
did
some
research
here
that
when
we
implemented
mr.
Y
Y
That's
of
ACE,
where
we,
a
different
hot
tub,
sell
that
we
do
like
in
May
and
from
2016
to
2017
after
we've
started
using
mr.
happy
way
to
four
hundred
and
eighty
percent
jump
in
that
particular
sale
as
well,
and
then
our
third
one
that
we
use
it
for
these
are
the
three
main
sales
that
would
use
it
for
just
three
times
a
year
for
about
ten
days
was
our
anniversary
so
which
is
in
me
and
from
2016
when
we
did
not
have
mr.
Y
happy
when
2017,
when
we
did
have
him
out
there,
we
had
a
222
percent
jump
in
business
and
that's
more
money
for
you
and
it's
more
money
for
us
in
our
small
family-owned
business
and
I
just
like
for
you
to
take
those
kind
of
things
into
consideration.
If
you
take
away
the
signs
for
this
young
man
here,
you
know
he
said:
it'll
he'll
shut
his
doors
and
I
probably
won't
have
to
shut
mine,
but
it's
sure
nice
to
see
those
big
jumps
and
numbers
of
business.
Y
B
D
W
Couple
other
comments.
First
of
all,
it's
encouraging
to
keep
hearing
everybody
talk
about
how
important
signs
are
I
think
if
we
learned
nothing
more
than
that
tonight,
we've
taken
that
away.
The
other
thing
I
would
say,
occurred
to
me
about
the
notice
public
notice
also
recall
that
this
was
before
the
Planning
Commission
previously
and
I
recuse
myself
from
that
vote.
Although
the
ordinance
cited,
the
proposed
Einhorn's
passed
unanimously
at
the
Planning,
Commission
I,
think
that's
relevant
and
again
I.
W
W
I
think
that
if
the
sign
code
was
passed,
though,
that
those
could
be
addressed
on
a
targeted
basis
as
necessary,
if
the
council
would
would
deem
that
necessary,
but
to
hold
up
the
entire
sign
code
after
all
the
work
and
meetings
and
an
input,
that's
been
been
put
forward
to
this
point
that
the
other
90%
of
the
sign
code.
Ninety-Five
percent
at
the
sign
code,
I
think,
would
be
a
disservice
to
all
the
folks
that
had
spent
many
many
many
hours
trying
to
develop
a
sign
code.
W
T
Guess
I
do
have
one
more
I
mean
had
a
you
know,
proposal
to
pass
I
mean.
Is
there
anybody
here?
That's
ready
to
do
a
proposal
to
pass
this?
That's
not
gonna
have
an
impact
of
a
benefit
on
the
change
of
these
signs.
I
mean
I
can
tell
I
mean
I,
don't
know
him
personally,
but
I
know
that
if
there's
this
has
passed,
he
tends
to
have
a
lot
of
new
business,
because
a
lot
of
thing
is
a
lot
of
things
are
gonna
change.
T
Q
But
but
my
point
is,
this
is
I
believe
in
it.
I
think
is
the
same
for
for
Lila
as
well
and
others
and
Tom.
Today
now
and
I'm,
not
sure
about
your
your
instance,
because
I
would
really
question
the
one
on
the
building.
I
would
might
find
that
hard
to
think
that.
That's
that's
not
right,
it
would
to
me
it
seems
like
it
should
be,
an
allowable
sign
but
I'm
not
gonna,
usually.
Q
Could
take
a
look
at
that
I'm
sorry,
but
in
in
banners
banners
today
there
are
banners
that
are
allowable
today.
Okay,
so
that's
not
a
change
in
the
ordinance.
If
we
don't
pass
the
ordinance
today,
Tom
and
Lila
and
most
likely
one
of
your
signs.
What
if
we
pass
it
or
we
don't
pass
it,
it's
not
going
to
have
any
impact
on
that
because
it's
not
allowable
today.
So
if
we
don't,
if
we
do
pass
it
and
it's
not
allowable
it's
no
different
than
if
we
don't
pass
it.
Oh
I.
Q
T
Working
but
we're
still
in
whether
it's
been
enforced
or
it's
not.
You
know
whether
it
was
allowable
or
it
wasn't
allowable
I
understand
that
this
one,
the
portable
sign
that
I
do
use
once
in
a
while.
Now
it's
only
out
business
hours,
that
kind
of
thing
and
part
of
this
ordinance
here
it's
allowed
in
somewhere.
It's
it's
not
allowed,
so
it's
unclear
a
win
and
when
it's
not
I,
don't
want
to
be
in
violation.
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
advertise
my
business
and
not
obstruct
anybody's.
T
T
Q
And
I
will
be
honest
to
read
it
and
try
to
understand
it
without
being
intricately
involved
with.
It
is
very
difficult.
It
is.
The
same
thing
is
true,
with
our
our
recreational
vehicle
parking
ordinance
that
we
had
so
I've
had
some
questions
asked
to
me
here
in
the
last
10
days
and
I
went
back
through
an
ER
edit
and
there's
room
for
interpretation
and
that
room
for
interpretation
is
what
creates
problems
or
or
misunderstanding.
So
in
your
particular
case,
I
think.
Q
If
there's
a
question
or
anybody's
case
the
question,
Canon
staff
will
do
a
wonderful
job,
helping
you
get
through
that
and
determine
they
might
have
to
come
out.
Take
a
look
at
your
sign
or
whatever
it
is,
but
they'll
help
you
to
determine
where
you're
at
ordinance
wise
sure,
and
so
you
might
be
fully
in
compliance
or
maybe
one
of
that's
those
signs
isn't
I,
don't
know.
But
at
least
then
you'll.
Q
Well,
but
the
point
is:
is
that
whether
we
pass
this
or
not-
and
let's
say
you
have
one
sign
out
of
compliance,
if
we
pass
this
or
not,
you're
gonna
be
out
of
compliance
right
either
way
we
go,
but
I
think
what
it
will
do
and
I'm
sure
that
that
the
mayor
is
going
to
support
this
is
we're
going
to
have
to
have
a
good,
strong
discussion
on
all
of
these
other
signs.
All
the
things
we've
been
talking
about
to
see
what
stays
what's
got
to
go
or
what
restrictions
have
to
be
placed
on
them?
T
Q
T
It's
just
getting
worse
and
worse
and
worse
thing,
you
know
as
a
business
owner
and
then
you
know,
I
spoke
with
Tom
and
you
know
probably
20
other
ones.
Nobody
even
knew
that
this
was
happening
tonight,
I'm,
actually,
the
one
that
called
did
Tom
today
and
said:
hey.
Did
you
hear
this
first
time
I've
heard
of
it
on
on
the
radio?
Is
it
like
6:05?
T
J
T
Something
like
that.
No
five
is
five:
oh
five,
and
there
was
no
mention
of
this
as
part
of
the
meaning
it
did
talk
about
the
recreational
vehicles
and
I
think
the
trailers
you
know
backing
up,
but
nothing
about
this
and
I.
Think
awareness
is
a
big
reason
why
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
more
small
business
owners
in
here
right
now.
Well,.
B
I
appreciate
what
Mike's
saying
about:
we
don't
pass
it
and
we
start
enforcing
it.
It
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
pain
there
too,
and
and
that's
how
we
find
out
and
that's
how
we
you
know
if
we
are
getting
backlash-
and
this
may
be
impossible
to
enforce,
to
we'll
hear
from
our
own
staff
that
it's
impossible
to
enforce
and
then
we'll
have
to
make
changes.
But.
B
B
T
You
know
well,
that's
why
I'm
here
it's!
You
know
this
took
me
by
surprise
and
I
mean
we.
Just
we
just
started
to,
you
know
actually
become.
You
know
a
little
bit
profitable
in
just
the
last
three
months
and
it's
due
to
those
two
signs,
because
that's
what
everyone
sees
now
you
know
I've
done
test
after
test.
I
get
fifty
five
hundred
cars
a
day
drive
by
my
shop
Monday
through
Friday,
well,.
Q
The
other
thing
I
want
to
make
him
comment
and
I've
heard
this
and
I'm
not
saying
it
won't
get
to
this.
But
I'll
be
honest.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
do
on
these
things
is
to
go
through
a
permitting
process.
I
would
rather
have
something
that
gives
people
the
latitude
with
a
good
set
of
rules
that
we
can
all
live
with
and
then
conform
to
I,
don't
want
to
see
us
put
a
process
in
that's
it.
Okay,
now
we
got
a
by
staff.
Q
T
Q
AA
Q
Feather
flakes
well
again:
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
it.
The
choice
to
enforce
certain
parts
of
this
really
is
gonna
come
right
here
with
the
mayor
and
the
staff,
and
if
they
make
the
decision
that
look
for
30
days
or
60
days,
we're
not
gonna
change.
Any
enforcement
than
what's
happened
in
the
last
60
days
or
six
months
or
two
years-
we're
not
we're
no
worse,
but
knowing
that
we
are
going
to
be
working
on
this
towards
something
that
we
will
get
into
ordinance
and
will
be
enforced.
AA
T
Q
Q
We
did,
it
was
an
enforcement
issue,
we
had
it
in
place
and
we
just
said
look
we're
gonna
enforcement,
but
it's
only
gonna
be
on
a
warning
ticket
only
for
the
first
summer
and
after
that,
so
here's
the
problem
with
that
Glenn
is.
If
we
say
we
defer
the
startup
of
it,
then
we
still
in
essence
we're
saying
we're
not.
Q
We
are
not
enforcing
the
new
rules
right
well,
a
lot
of
their
issue
is
is
currently
on
the
books.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
we
pass
it
or
not.
It's
it's
are
we
going
to
enforce
it
or
not?
Not
passing
it.
In
my
mind,
now
takes
95%
of
it
that
is
ready
to
come
out
and
be
implemented
in
20
days.
I
would
rather
pass
it
get
the
95
percent
in
come
up
with
a
in
understanding
that
and
turn
we
are
going
to
work
with
people.
We're
gonna
have
public
meetings.
Q
Q
No,
you
got
to
understand.
A
lot
of
these
are
grandfathered
in
a
lot
of
the
signs
that
exist.
That
would
now
not
be
in
compliance.
They
get
grandfathered
in
and
then
there's
certain
conditions
under
which
they
have
to
come
into
compliance
under
certain
conditions.
Okay,
so
those
are
ready
to
go
so
that
anything,
that's
new
going
forward.
We
might
as
well
get
that
going
now.
Why
otherwise
we're
gonna
live
to
our
old
language,
and
so
anything
new
has
to
go
in
against
your
language.
Q
When
I
say
95%,
that's
a
number
I'm,
just
yeah
I'm
when
I
look
at
all
the
signs,
big
small
little
I
take
the
one
segment
that
this
issue
is
about
set
it
aside,
all
the
other
stuff.
We
don't
have
too
many
issues
with
right
now,
not
perfect,
like
Mark
said,
but
we
don't
have
the
issues
that
we
do
with
this
right.
W
The
the
body
of
work
in
total
is
based
upon
a
lot
of
hours
from
a
lot
of
people
and
a
lot
of
varied
interests.
Some
from
the
sign
industry,
so
I'm
not
from
the
sign
industry,
some
from
users,
some
from
bids
from
business
people
and
is
it?
Is
it
perfect,
absolutely
not?
Does
it
need
some
fine-tuning?
Perhaps
that's
that's
for
the
sign
of
the
the
council
to
decide
if
we're
going,
to
take
a
look
at
certain
aspects
of
it,
but
again
to
hold
it
up,
because.
W
Certain
concerns
have
been
raised
tonight
that
are
that
are
actually
already
in
place
that
we
just
have
an
enforced
I
think
is
also
maybe
going
on.
You
know
the
wrong
direction.
I
think
that
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress,
I
think
that
it's
a
good
compromise
give
and
take
from
from
from
everybody
that
was
involved
in
those
meetings
and
that's
my
recommendation
to
pass.
It
is
not
because
of
any
personal
hidden
agenda
as
far
as
you
know,
gonna
get
a
whole
bunch
of
influx
of
business.
If
anything,
it's
more
restrictive
to
our
business.
Well,.
T
And
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
you
know
the
hours
and
the
time,
and
you
know
everything
that
goes
into
it:
I've
been
building
custom
hotrods
for
20
years
and
it's
endless
hours.
It's
you
know
time
from
a
lot
of
people,
but
if
it's
not
right,
it
doesn't
go
out
the
door.
It
just
doesn't.
That's.
B
X
You
I'd
just
like
to
clarify
my
response
to
mr.
Ville
Howard's
question
about
the
delay.
The
the
quick
answer
is
yes,
but
we
also
have
to
be
careful
about
the
repealer
in
the
ordinates.
Any
changes
that
are
made
become
effective
on
the
passage
of
the
20
days
afterwards,
and
if
we
just
simply
put
in
place
a
delay
of
implementation,
we
still
have
the
ordinances.
In
fact,
at
that
point,
and
so
it
becomes
a
timing
issue.
X
B
Have
I
don't
see
it
in
the
agenda
packet,
but
there's
a
regulatory
portion
of
this
ordinance
which
I'm
not
familiar
with,
but
we
could
begin
enforcing
with
warnings,
and
so
everyone
that
would
get
a
ticket
or
a
citation
will
get
an
educational
letter
or
something
to
that
effect
that
wouldn't
be
wrong.
You.
X
B
X
B
G
I
P
Would
just
say
that
Ken
will
do
everything
he
can
to
help
people
be
successful.
You
know
we
only
have
we
have
Watertown
in
mind
here
and
you
all
are
part
of
that,
and
so
I
think
that
this
probably
is
something
should
be
passed,
but
I
also
think
that
you
should
work
with
Ken
on
that
and
hopefully
that
can
go
for
you,
and
you
know
we're
here
so
come
on
back
and.
H
G
Want
this
to
be
perfectly
clear,
what
we
decided
night
does
not
affect
you
that
has
been
decided
the
last
time
a
sign
code
was
done
aside
from
the
feather
flight
or
feather
signs
I
believe
that's
the
only
new
part
that
would
affect
you.
If
we
didn't
pass
this,
if
the
mayor
decided
to
enforce
that
she
could
do
it
tomorrow.
If
we
pass
it,
she
could
do
it
tomorrow
hold
off
for
a
little
bit
either
way.
Our
decision
doesn't
affect
you
directly
today.
B
As
mayor
it's
my
belief
that
I
should
be
calling
for
enforcement
of
all
of
the
ordinance
is
because
they
are
approved,
they're,
written
designed
and
proved
by
the
council
for
our
community,
for
you
and
whatever
they
do
tonight,
pass
or
fail.
We
have
ordinance
on
the
book
that
was
passed
by
the
City
Council,
who
was
elected,
to
represent
and
serve
you,
and
if
the
staff
is
not
enforcing
this
ordinance,
they
are
not
doing
their
duty,
so
I
think
we
have
to
move
forward.
We
have
to
assume
this
ordinance
will
be
enforced.
B
U
B
B
J
Mayor
initially,
I
was
ready
to
vote
in
favor
this
when
we
looked
at
it
the
first
reading
two
weeks
ago,
but
after
listening
mr.
rotter
shot
his
presentation,
the
okay,
that
this
has
not
changed
from
what
we
saw
two
weeks
ago,
I
thought
Dan
was
going
to
bring
B
be
doing
some
some
background.
Work
on
this
provide
us
some
additional
information.
D
AB
AB
If
that's
what
the
council
wants
or
the
people
want,
but
to
put
it
right
in
ordinance,
I
think
it
ties
our
hands
and
for
future
and
we're
working
with
the
with
a
permit
process
we're
coming
up
with
a
cleaner
permit.
For
you,
there's
there's
a
couple:
NFPA
codes
that
cover
the
safety
factors
and
we're
gonna,
do
a
check
sheet
and
we'll
present
that
at
a
work
session
for
you
how
we
come
out
when
we
approve
a
permit,
so
I
could
provide
that
information
to
the
council.
B
J
B
J
G
B
G
Know
this
is
being
on
the
fourth
of
July
Wednesday,
you
know
before
or
after
are
we
gonna
have
the
weekend
before
the
weekend
after
is
it
only
gonna?
Be
the
fourth
of
July
people
can't
make
plans
this
way
if
we're
gonna
decide
as
a
council,
I
just
don't
understand,
what's
wrong
with
putting
it
in
black
and
white.
Q
Here's
the
concern
that
I
have
and
I
get
where
chips
coming
from
I
don't
want
to
tire
hands,
even
where
we
have
to,
but
by
not
having
something
more
defined.
Are
we
really
being
likely
inconsistent
from
year
to
year
to
year
to
year
to
year,
but
based
on
who
the
council
or
the
mare
is
you
know,
so
one
group
of
10
says
nap
shouldn't
be
on
a
Wednesday
it'll
be
on
a
Thursday
or
whatever
it
is.
You
know
a
it
seems
like
we're.
Q
B
Well,
it's
up
to
the
council
when
fireworks
are
allowed.
If
you
want
to
expand
that
to
match
the
proclamation
or
write
some
formula
of
when
it's
on
a
Wednesday
or
a
Tuesday,
you
can
do
all
that.
This
doesn't
do
that.
The
the
ordinance
as
proposed
matches
the
state
law
and
it
it
doesn't
add
those
extra
days
which
were
added
by
Proclamation.
They
can
be
added
by
proclamation
of
the
council
in
the
future
and
just
like
before,
but.
B
B
G
AB
G
G
AB
I,
just
just
from
the
fire
department
say
you
know:
I've
had
a
lot
of
complaints,
a
lot
of
people,
there's
people
like
fireworks
and
there's
people
that
don't
like
fireworks.
Of
course,
I
don't
hear
from
the
people
that
like
fireworks,
and
they
were
glad
that
you
could
shoot
off
fireworks
for
the
whole
week.
But
I
did
I
did
have
numerous
complaints
about
shooting
fireworks
off
the
whole
week.
They
can't
enjoy
the
lake.
Is
that
whole
week
or
that
weekend
you
know
they're
fine.
They
could
live
with
the
one
day,
the
way
it's
been
for
years.
AB
AB
D
G
Q
B
Never
had
a
situation
where
it
was
proposed
to
extend
that
and
the
public
input
was
gathered
for
your
benefit
before
you
made
that
choice.
You
might
want
to
do
that
next
year
and
just
see
what
the
public
says.
What
is
the
public
feeling
about?
Should
you
extend
that
date
because,
right
now
we
don't
know
we
haven't
asked
them.
This
is
what's
proposed,
keeps
it
the
way
it
was
as
far
as
time
within
our
community.
B
J
B
For
the
record,
it
was
mr.
Thorson
but
motion
carries
item
number
8,
ordinance,
number
17,
35
amending
chapter
7.03
of
the
revised
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Watertown
to
update
City
Council
procedures
and
duties
all
right
again.
There
is
no
public
hearing
required
on
this,
so
I'll
look
for
a
motion
and
second
and
then
discussion.
I
F
Q
I
have
gotten
input
from
Shelly
that
this
does
in
fact
reflect
the
way
it's
been
done
historically
and
I.
Think
through
some
of
the
comments
that
we've
heard
tonight
in
regards
to
the
sign
ordinance
and
what
I
think
we
will
also
hear
input
on
from
our
recreational
vehicle
parking
that
a
lot
of
our
ordinance
language
isn't
as
clear
as
what
we'd
like
to
have
it
be
and
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
where
we're
not
changing
the
outcome,
we're
just
changing
the
verbage
to
clearly
state
ownership
of
the
of
the
agenda.
Q
My
reasoning
is
that
by
Home
Rule
Charter,
the
mayor
is
our
CEO.
My
home
will
charter.
The
mayor
presides
over
the
City
Council
meetings
and
thus,
as
the
person
presiding
needs,
to
be
the
person
responsible
for
ensuring
that
an
agenda
for
that
council
meeting
is
in
fact
established.
I
want
to
read
what
is
in
the
proposed
ordinance
versus
mine.
That
I
have
submitted
current
one
says
the
proposed
agenda.
Q
Ferocity
council
meeting
shall
be
complied
compiled
by
the
Finance
Officer
and
shall
be
reviewed
revisions
to
a
proposed
agenda,
including
revisions
to
supporting
documentation
drafter
to
ask
their
issuance
of
the
agenda
shall
be
reviewed
by
the
mayor
and
resulting
revised
agenda
must
be
issued
no
less
than
24
hours
prior
to
the
start
of
the
City
Council
meeting
where
it
is
to
be
addressed.
This
24
hour
requirement
doesn't
applied
two
revisions
to
supporting
documentation
which
otherwise
regulated
pursuant
to
SD.
L
SD
see
it
now.
1
27
1.16.
J
Q
Okay,
so
now
let
me
read
mine,
the
mayor
shall
be
responsible
for
insurance
and
agenda
is
established
and
approved
for
each
council.
Meeting
revisions
to
a
proposed
agenda
drafted
after
noticing
of
the
agenda
shall
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
mayor,
including
revisions
to
supporting
documentation.
Any
revised
agenda
must
be
issued
no
less
than
24
hours
prior
to
the
start.
Q
Time
of
the
City
Council
meeting
the
24
hour
requirement
does
not
apply
to
the
revisions
and
supporting
documentation
x'
which
are
otherwise
regulated
pursuant
to
s
decl
1
2,
7,
1
0.16,
the
finance
officer,
shall
be
responsible
for
compiling
the
proposed
agenda
for
all
city
council
meetings,
submitting
the
compiled
Jenna
to
the
mayor
for
approval
and
for
noticing
the
agenda
to
the
public.
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point
you
guys
decide
which
one
you
feel
is
is
the
clearest
to
the
public
and
vote
accordingly.
Q
Every
department
head,
with
the
exception
of
the
finance
officer,
answers
to
the
mayor.
The
mayor's
responsibility
is
to
ensure
that
those
people
get
their
agenda
items
to
the
council
and
she
also
is
the
one
that
presides
he
or
she
also
presides
over
the
meeting.
So
why
don't
we
state
that
that
person
ultimately
is
responsible
for
the
agenda
so.
Q
F
B
Q
Either
way
I'm
just
saying,
we
know
that
that
the
way
we
write
things
at
times
does
create
problems
when
we
have
the
opportunity
to
take
that
that
issue
and
add
more
clarity
to
it,
I
don't
know
why
we
wouldn't
do
that
by
stating
exactly
what
we
want.
So
we
can
just
vote
accordingly
and
move
on
to
the
next
item
here.
I.
J
Guess
I
would
just
say:
he's
Mike,
you
know,
I
had
coffee
over
this
and
I'm
not
opposed
to
what
your
your
proposed
language
is.
I.
Think
what
we
see
in
front
of
us
in
our
proposal,
ordinance
as
it
is
says,
the
same
thing.
You
know
we
can
debate
this
back
and
forth
all
night,
so
I
would
and
I
and
speaking
with
Justin
after
our
last
meeting,
he
fell
to
was
clear
as
it
could
be
presented.
J
I
D
B
Q
J
Q
Q
Q
A
Q
I
X
J
I
E
Q
E
I
E
Any
two
council
members
may
otherwise
place
an
item
on
the
agenda.
Revisions
to
the
proposed
agenda,
drafted
after
noticing
of
the
agenda
shall
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
mayor,
including
revisions
to
supporting
documentation
and
a
revised
agenda
must
be
issued
no
less
than
24
hours
prior
to
the
start.
E
Time
of
the
City
Council
meeting
the
24
hour
requirement
does
not
apply
to
revisions
in
supporting
documentation
which
are
otherwise
regulated
pursuant
to
SDC
l1
27
1.16,
the
Finance
Officer
shall
be
responsible
for
compiling
the
proposed
agenda
for
all
the
city
council
meetings,
submitting
the
compiled
agenda
to
the
mayor
for
approval
and
for
noticing
the
agenda
to
the
public.
That's.
I
D
D
E
Okay,
all
right
I
will
try
to
be
brief.
You
do
have
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
and,
as
you
know,
on
Thursday
that
will
change
a
bit
based
on
the
urban
renewal
decision
and
we
will
go
over
that
and,
like
I,
had
said
the
way
that
the
state's
law
has
changed
anytime,
you
make
any
substantive
changes.
You
need
to
have
five
days
in
between
the
meeting
where
you
make
changes
and
the
approval.
E
So
by
doing
that
on
Thursday
and
by
putting
the
notice
out
to
the
public,
we
should
have
our
bases
covered
and
we
should
have
that
five
days
spread.
So
the
other
two
changes
that
I
want
to
make
you
aware
of
that
happened
after
the
public
input
meetings
was
we
did
get
notification
from
the
FAA
twice
a
year.
E
So
we
did
change
that
which
then
gave
us
back
that
positive
fund
balance,
because
his
expenditures
reflected
him
expending
all
of
that
money.
But
the
revenues
didn't
follow.
So
nothing
on
the
expenditure
side
for
the
Upper
Big
Sioux
was
changed,
but
the
revenue
side
does
now
reflect
what
we
actually
can
get
from
the
EPA
grant.
Okay,
I
did
find
on
the
airport.
E
What
they
put
in
for
2018
was
design
and
construct
fence
modifications
and
design
terminal
apron
reconstruction
phase,
one
which
is
the
design
work
for
the
terminal,
apron
reconstruction
phase,
one
and
two
construction
that
they
put
into
19
and
20,
which
you
will
see
on
Thursday.
So
basically,
they
are
supporting
one
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
projects
which
would
make
the
city's
share
seven
thousand
dollars
versus
a
thirty-five
thousand
dollar
project
that
you
guys
going
to
talk
about
in
a
minute.
E
So
that
was
changed
because
that's
basically
what's
gonna
happen
and
it's
it's
kind
of
dictated
by
them
and
they
decided
to
make
some
modifications
to
the
numbers
they
gave
us
in
the
spring.
Part
of
that
was
because
of
this
extra
funding
and-
and
they
kind
of
did
some
rearranging
so
just
wanted
that
to
be
accurately
reflected,
so
those
changes
have
been
made.
Also,
all
of
the
other
changes
that
you
guys
voted
on
during
those
public
input
meetings
have
been
incorporated
into
this
ordinance
as
well.
B
AC
S
D
B
B
AD
B
AD
When
Justin
came
by
later
and
was
cleaning
up
the
ordinances,
he
recognized
that
that
maybe
should
have
been
put
in
title
18
with
the
on
street
parking.
So
he
was
cleaning
up
those
ordinances
and
moved
some
of
them
over
to
title
18,
which
is
what
we
typically
enforce
as
opposed
to
title
21,
where
ken
enforces
it,
the
specific
language
with
non
daily
used
vehicles
didn't
get
transferred
over.
AD
We
recognized
it
when
we
realized,
we
were
writing
tickets
for
an
ordinance
that
no
longer
existed,
so
a
phone
call
were
to
Justin
and
back
and
forth,
and
he
said:
okay,
we're
in
it
yeah
I
think
he
was
trying
to
do
is
take
the
language
that
the
council
meant
to
put
in
or
did
put
in
in
May
of
2015
and
now
put
that
same
language
back
into
here.
With
the
exception
of
at
the
time
it
was
just
referenced,
non
daily
used
vehicles
for
clarification
purposes,
I
think
he
added
in
the
recreational
vehicles
watercraft
trailers.
AD
Q
Q
AD
Q
Just
gonna
throw
it
out
that
I
will
I've
had
a
number
of
comments
not
on
this
one,
but
on
21
over
the
last
two
weeks
right
because
I
think
there's
been
a
more
of
an
enforcement
issue
taking
place.
In
fact,
there's
been
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
language
within
that
and
if
we,
if,
if
it
isn't
clear
in
there
that
they
can't
have
boats
and
trailers
and
the
all
this
stuff
on
the
streets
in
that
one
as
well
can
be
I
think
even
some
kind
of
a
reference
to
it.
AD
I
can't
speak
for
Justin,
and
he
was
doing
is
that
title
21
deals
parking
of
vehicles
on
your
property,
whereas
18
deals
with
vehicles
on
the
roadway.
So
that's
where
the
way
he
described
it
to
me
was
he
wanted
to
take
it
and
move
it
from
title
21,
because
now
we're
talking
about
RVs,
watercraft
and
trailers
and
such
on
the
public
roadways
and
that's
Title,
18
that
we
typically
get
involved
in
for
enforcing,
as
opposed
to
Ken's
department
with
title
21,
quite
possibly
a
note
or
something
in
title.
Q
S
D
Q
They
don't
care,
they
just
want
to
know
where
can
I
park
stuff
and
where
can't
I
and
for
clarity
reasons,
it
would
appear
to
me
recommendation
that,
and
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
one
per
se,
that
something
needs
to
stay
in
21
as
a
reference
point
that
these
can't
be
on
the
streets
to
make
it
easier
for
the
user.
This
really
isn't
about
you
and
me,
and
us
just
about
the
user
and
I
think
that
it
needs
to
be
something
added
back
into
that.
If
it's
gone.
Q
AD
One
more
point
of
clarification
or
I
can
relay.
Maybe
what
Justin
told
me
when
we
were
discussing
this
was
that
the
reason
that
it
didn't
get
put
back
into
1800
101
sub
3
was
because
he
he
wasn't
privy
to
all
the
discussions
that
took
place
in
May
of
2015,
so
when
he
was
looking
at
it
when
he
was
revising
this,
he
was
only
looking
at
vision,
obstruction
at
intersections
and
whether
or
not
it
was
a
safety
concern.
AD
So
his
interpretation
of
time
was
that
it
already
says
you
can't
park
semis
or
vehicles
of
greater
than
1
tonne
on
the
roadway.
So
he
didn't
feel
the
need
to
put
it
back
into
there.
I
don't
know
for
sure
what
the
council's
intent
was
in
May
of
2015,
but
I.
Think
if
I
remember
right,
it
was
it
was
concerning
the
aesthetics
of
the
neighborhood
and
everything
in
addition
to
the
vision
obstructions
of
whether
or
not
you
could
park
a
large
RV
or
something
on
the
street.
I
can't
say
that
for
sure
I
remember
discussions
about.
Q
B
Title
21:
we
talked
about
off
street
parking
and
loading
and
I
think
that's
where
this
was.
The
on
Street
discussion
was
found
in
the
off
street
section
and
so
I
mean
if
you're
looking
for
it
isn't
in
there
I've
got
I
pulled
the
ordinance
up.
There's
no
tie
back
to
this,
so
I
mean
we
could
add
it
in
there.
If
you're
looking
for
on
street,
you
have
to
go
to
title
18,
which
is
streets
and
public
ways
all.
Q
Right
and
all
again,
all
I'm
saying
is:
if
I
put
myself
in
a
user's
position
and
I
I,
don't
know
title
18
from
title
21
and
I,
don't
know
whether
you
enforce
it
or
can't
enforces
it
all.
I
know
is
I
got
a
letter
right,
I,
wanna
I
want
to
have
something.
That's
the
easiest
for
me
to
use
and
to
understand
and
to
me,
recreational
vehicles
whether
they're
on
the
street
off
the
street
is
a
technicality
from
our
standpoint
to
them.
Q
B
B
AE
Subsequently,
the
city
purchased
10
of
those
80
acres
into
five
acre
increments
speaking
with
Doug
cluck,
the
son
and
one
of
the
successors
of
doors
Dolores.
This
past
July
Mr
Cook
expressed
an
interest
of
selling
us
another
five
acres,
which
is
this
purchase
agreement.
That's
before
you
tonight.
Mr.
AE
green
minute
tonight
is
to
purchase
five
acres
at
eight
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
per
acre
for
a
total
expenditure
of
forty
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
and
these
are
the
five
acres
that
are
directly
east
of
and
contiguous
with
the
ten
acres
that
we
previously
purchased
the
cook
family.
So
the
funds
will
be
paid
out
of
the
land
field.
Cash
reserves
specifically
I,
think
out
of
landfill
landfill,
and
so
we
would
like
to
proceed
with
the
purchase
of
these
five
acres
for
forty
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
with
your
approval.
AE
AE
Just
after
the
drafting
of
this
purchase
agreement,
she
recently
died
on
August
23rd
and
the
2016
land.
Apps
option
does
provide
that
the
city
shall
give
written
notice
to
the
successors
of
Dolores
cook
within
90
days
of
her
death
and
then
the
terms
of
the
sale.
The
remaining
acres
shall
be
cash
deal
within
45
days,
the
dispatch
of
the
notice
of
intent
to
exercise
the
option.
So
that
heard
she
passed
after
this
was
drafted
and
put
on
the
agenda.
Okay,.
J
So
my
question
ultimately
is
as
I
read
that
option
I'm
it's
the
second
to
last
paragraph
as
to
any
part
of
the
property
as
to
which
the
purchase
by
option
II
is
not
completed
by
one
year
from
the
death
of
the
Grand
Tour
of
the
option
shall
be
null
and
void.
Okay.
What's
what
that's
telling
me
is
that
if,
for
some
reason
we
get
across
I
mean
we
want
this
land?
J
Yes,
eventually
right,
you
need
to
leave,
but
this
is
telling
me
that
if,
for
some
reason
we
get
crosswise
with
the
heirs
or
vice-versa
with
us
as
a
city,
this
option
agreements
null
and
void
and
they
can
they
can
go
anyplace
and
and
market
this
to
whoever
want
to
may
want
to
buy
it.
I
guess
I'd
be
I'd,
recommend
that
we
get
another
option
in
in
place.
That
extends
our
right
to
that.
Only
oh
well.
AE
I
believe
that
that
the
option
were
you're
right,
the
option
will
lapse
and
become
void
if
a
notice,
the
completion
of
the
sale
does
not
occur.
So
we
have
90
days
from
August
23rd
to
give
them
written
notice
that
we
have
plan
to
exercise
that
option
90
days
to
give
them
written
notice
that
we
will
buy
the
remaining
65
acres,
okay
and
then
so
we'll
be
back
to
see
you
in
the
near
future
to
to
proceed
with
the
other
65
acres
at
eight
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
per
acre.
E
Like
an
probably
start
on
that
one,
you
you've
seen
the
federal
portion
of
this.
Why
they
don't
send
them
together.
I
have
no
idea,
but
they
don't
and
the
state
sent
us
their
version
and
per
their
instructions.
We
have
to
have
copy
of
the
minutes,
saying
that
you
have
reviewed
it
and
that
you're
authorizing
the
mayor
signature
to
it.
So
you
have
authorized
the
90
percent
reimbursement
of
this
31
grant
and
now
you're
authorizing
the
5%
state
portion.
And
if
you
have
any
questions,
ask
Todd
or
Mike.
AF
B
B
U
B
U
Right
all
different
alternatives,
one
of
the
one
of
the
real,
exciting
things
was
the
in
public
involvement
in
their
proposal
that
they're
gonna
really
get
out
and
get
together
with
the
public.
Not
only
drill
users,
but
also
residents
around
the
lake
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
great
to
have
that
information
up
front
Jay.
J
U
And
that
is
still
in
place.
That's
the
master
trail
plan
and
one
of
the
you
know
the
I
think
the
number
one
issue
as
you
read
through
that
would
be
finishing
the
Lidcombe
Pesce
loop
of
the
trail,
but
this
is
just
further
refining
that
so
that
we
get
the
actual
survey
and
design
of
what's
remaining
okay.
J
Q
U
You
know
because
with
there's
grants,
recreational
trails
fund
grants
and
things
like
that
tab
grants
that
you
can
apply
for,
but
if
we
can
do
that
in
areas
where
there's
less
restrictions,
you
know
we
can
be
a
lot
better
off
and
then
some
of
these
areas,
where
it's
going
to
be
really
difficult
with
terrain
or
wetlands
or
anything
like
that,
probably
will
want
to
just
do
that
ourselves.
So
you
know
they're
gonna,
give
us
that
information
too,
because.
U
Q
F
U
J
I
U
B
B
Item
16
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
a
letter
of
support
to
the
South
Dakota
Department
of
Transportation
regarding
the
highway
212
changes,
I
passed
a
letter
out
to
each
of
you.
Shane
drafted
this
letter.
There
were
meetings
held
between
the
d-o-t
and
Shane
and
Don
Roby
were
at
those
meetings.
I
was
not
at
the
meetings,
but
there
was
there
were
various
different
things
discussed
which
are
covered
in
this
letter
and
and
the
d-o-t
asked
the
city
to
put
it
into
a
letter
request
to
them,
and
so
that's
what
Shane
has
done.
B
A
All
right
last
Wednesday,
we
received
three
bids
for
the
hanger
tax
lien
project
bid.
Tab
is
located
in
the
packet
cbits
from
J&J
earthworks,
donek
incorporated
and
midland
contracting.
The
low
bid
was
G&G
earthworks.
That
is
the
bit
that
we're
recommending
final
price
on
that
is
seven
hundred
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
two
dollars
and
fifty
cents
I
know
Bob,
was
here
a
couple
meetings
ago,
gave
you
guys
kind
of
a
very
preliminary
estimate
on
what
the
project
was
gonna
cost.
A
There
is
room
for
expansion
on
this
project,
it's
kind
of
how
it
grew
to
make
sure
we've
got
room
for
not
just
one,
maybe
two
or
three
that
could
be
corporate
FBO
private
hangars.
As
is
right.
Now
you
have
very
limited
space
for
hangar
development
at
the
airport,
so
we've
got
some
room
to
grow
there.
A
A
Projects
been
coming
in
good
across
the
state
and
they
approached
us
and
said:
do
you
have
a
project
that
you
can
get
ready
for
bids
and
get
it
out
there
by
the
by
the
time
the
grant
needs
come
off,
so
it
was
a
very,
very
quick
process,
a
few
weeks
in
the
making
for
that
matter.
So
we
got
very
good
competitive
prices.
Something's
gonna
get
completed
yet
this
year.
A
F
AF
Q
Y
A
A
A
So
the
total,
the
total
price
for
this
project,
with
all
the
engineering
asphalt
testing
and
you
can
see-
we've
got
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
of
administration.
That's
kind
of
like
a
contingency
fund
for
the
project.
Don't
anticipate
needing
a
lot
of
contingency
for
this
I.
Don't
think,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
unforeseen
Zout
there
at
least
we
hope
not
so
with
that
being
said,
895
thousand
is
the
overall
total
project,
as
you
guys
discussed
with
the
previous
item.
AF
AF
A
J
AF
A
Watertown
is
an
airport,
is
a
non
primary
airport
gets
$150,000
of
entitlement
funds
per
year;
you've
expended
that
already
a
rapport
ssin
of
it,
but
this
is
all
going
to
be
state
apportionment
dollars.
So
it's
not
eating
into
any
entitlement
dollars
that
you
can
if
you've
used
them,
you've
used
them
to
gone
so
you're,
not
getting
penalized
you're,
not
cashing
in
on
possibly
next
year's
entitlements.
Anything
like
that.
B
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
tentatively
award
AIP
project
number
three
46.
There
was
ero
5
8
0,
3,
2,
2017
hanger
taxi
lane
improvements
base
bed
made
jayjay
earthworks
Milbank
south
dakota
in
the
amount
of
seven
hundred
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
two
dollars.
Fifty
cents
contingent
upon
receipt
of
a
DBE
good-faith
effort
and
an
FAA
grant
offer.
I
A
Is
this
is
essentially
needed
to
make
sure
we
can
have
the
mayor
sign
all
the
contract
documents
the
grant
offer
when
it
shows
up,
because
we
are
going
to
expect
some
some
tight
turnaround
times
once
we
get
that
typically,
the
FAA
stops.
Writing
grants,
September
14th,
so
we're
gonna
be
pushing
the
cusp
of
that
that
deadline.
So
as
soon
as
the
city
gets
that
grant
offer,
they're
gonna
want
it
essentially
signed
emailed
and
then
the
original
sent
ready
pretty
much
that
day,
possibly
overnighted.
A
AF
B
B
AG
On
August
24th,
we
went
out
for
bids
for
a
dump
body
for
the
chassis
that
we
had
purchased
several
months
ago
and
we
had
three
bidders.
The
lowest
bidder
was
sanitation
products
at
twenty
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
eighty
dollars,
and
they
met
all
of
our
specifications
and
I
recommend
that
the
council
approve
a
little
bit
I'm.
B
AG
AG
AG
Is
actually
we
will
be
replacing
a
vehicle
with
this?
We
actually
got
the
truck
chassis.
Several
months
ago,
we
had
a
opportunity
to
purchase
the
chassis
and
council
approved
that
and
we're
just
following
up
to
get
a
box
and
get
it
outfitted,
and
it's
actually
going
to
be
used
as
a
mainly
as
a
patch
truck
it'll,
be
replacing
this
old
International
that
we
have
it's
like
a
70
model
in
and
so
we'll
be
replacing
that.
D
D
B
E
Basically,
in
our
meeting
this
morning,
we
had
a
conversation
about
the
change
order
from
Pitts.
They
had
basically
requested
that
we
do
this
I'm
and
close
out
the
project,
and
there
was
question
about
the
parking
lot
seems
and
working
with
Zdenek
I
think
it
was
done
X
and
Pitts
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
remedy
and
that
hasn't
happened
yet
and
that
wasn't
anywhere
on
his
email,
so
I
emailed
him
this
morning
and
said
hey.
This
came
up.
You
didn't
mention
this.
E
B
E
S
I,
give
you
a
little
background.
Last
fall
after
the
paving
of
the
parking
lots
was
done
on
it,
the
Wellness
Center.
Apparently,
somebody
had
alerted
the
previous
mayor
of
some
issues
with
regard
to
the
end
result
of
the
paving
and,
and
so
he
called
myself
and
Rob
being
in
up
and
we
looked
at
it
in
the
fall,
and
we
agreed
that
the
joints
didn't.
Look
that
great.
AG
S
B
B
F
Q
A
in
Shane
I
think
one
of
the
concerns,
because
I
was
there
and
part
of
this
discussion
with
pits.
There
was
not
a
dunnock
individual
there,
but
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
was
not
only
cosmetic
but
okay.
Now
you
get
water
sitting
in
there
and
you
get
ice
and
now
now
you've
created
these
long
lines
of
potentially
asphalt.
That's
having
a
problem.
S
Q
S
Q
B
Q
Okay,
so
if
it's
not
but
I
hate
to
see
a
schooling
machine,
I
think
you
guys
aren't
right
track.
I
hate
to
see
us
do
what
we
did
in
19th
take
a
nice.
It
looks
better
as
it
is
now
than
if
we
go
in
and
grind
part
of
it
out
and
yeah.
We
got
a
resolved,
but
it
looks
worse.
So
the
worst
wears
what's
done
exposition
did
they
say
the
work
done
was
acceptable.
Q
S
B
AG
B
B
E
D
S
Take
it
Thank,
You
mayor
this
I
just
want
to
point
out
one
thing:
we
are
handling
these
contracts
slightly
different
than
we
have
in
the
past
in
the
past.
The
street
department
has
slowly
brought
these
issues
to,
but
we
wanted
to
formalize
our
process
a
little
bit
more
and
that's
why
we're
actually
doing
a
change
order
at
the
end
of
this
project
were
in
pastures?
You
wouldn't
have
seen
a
change
order
come
you
would
have
just
paid
the
approved
to
pay
the
bills
and
and
the
reason
we
made.
S
The
change
is
because
of
the
dollar
amounts
that
these
have
become
I
mean
if
they're
lower
than
50
thousand.
You
know
we
just
pay
hire
contractors
and
go
forward
with
work
and
make
pay
bills,
but
you
know
these
are
exceeding
$100,000
and
up
and
I
think
that
they
require
a
little
bit
more,
a
little
more
attention,
so
we're
starting
to
formalize
that
process,
and
with
that
said,
this
was
our
annual
chip
seal
project,
which
is
now
complete.
F
I
B
AG
It's
this
year
was
a
lot
smaller
than
we
normally
have
been
doing
with
seal
codes,
but
it
can
consist
of
20th
Avenue
South
from
81
around
to
Walmart
south
edge
Walmart
and
then
also
pheasant,
Ridge
Drive,
which
is
northeast
out
there.
North
east
of
stones
truck
stop
and
then
also
the
street
right
between
stones
and
the
motel
to
the
east.
I
can't
think
is
at
39th,
Street,
I,
think
or
36th
Street.
It's
just
a
couple
blocks
long
dead-end
street.
So
that's
what
we
did
this
year.