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B
You
this
is
a
discussion
item
that
came
up
from
the
Tuesday
council
meeting
and
so
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
incorporated
the
urban
renewal
assessment
and
the
expenditures
in
that
fund
and
since
there
isn't
a
revenue
source,
we
needed
to
make
those
changes.
So
this
sheet
that
you
have
here
is
the
changes
and
let
the
record
show
that
row
B
is
in
attendance.
B
Okay
I
went
through
and
there
was
a
couple
personnel
issues
that
we
found
in
the
general
fund
that
we
were
actually
doing
something
totally
different
and
realized
that
there
was
some
staff
turnover
and
just
in
an
error
that
was
made
in
the
IT
department,
and
we
wanted
to
get
those
corrected
so
that
we
had
the
best
numbers
possible
for
the
general
fund.
As
you
can
see
for
the
urban
renewal,
we
took
all
the
expenditures
out
and
then
we
also
removed
the
urban
renewal
assessment
revenue
as
well
as
the
Volunteer
Center
rental.
B
So
if
we
continue
down
this
path
in
looking
at
the
general
fund,
there
was
really
no
other
good
place
to
put
the
expenditures
from
the
urban
renewal
fund
other
than
underneath
the
city
hall
budget.
So
whether
we
want
to
in
the
future
call
it
city
hall,
slash
government
buildings.
I
guess
you
guys
can
make
that
determination,
but
you
can
see
the
expenditures
that
were
moved
to
the
O&M
budget
to
City
Hall
and
then
on.
B
B
So,
basically,
you
say:
what's
the
impact
well,
that
is
this
sheet:
okay,
when
you're
looking
at
it.
If,
if
anybody
would
ever
look
when
I
come
in
and
I
say
that
we
have
a
balanced
budget,
if
you
would
ever
look
at
the
general
fund
and
you
would
look
at
the
expenditures
and
then
you'd
look
at
the
revenues.
B
These
are
not
equal,
okay,
the
way
that
we
do
our
budgeting
in
the
conservative
way
that
we
budget
we
usually
always-
and
you
can
kind
of
see
that
we
always
underestimate
our
revenues
and
we
budget
for
the
expenditures
we
think
we're
going
to
need.
But
we
are
really
good
at
spending
only
what
we
need,
so
we
routinely
do
not
spend
our
entire
budget,
and
so
we
factor
in
a
five-year
percentage
and
we
put
those
to
the
requests.
B
So
we
say
on
an
average
year
we're
going
to
spend
this
much
of
the
request
and
we're
going
to
take
in
about
this
much
of
the
revenues
that
we're
anticipating
and
then
we
put
in
that
formula.
So
at
the
end,
our
projected
surplus
deficit
should
be
zero
or
positive.
Okay,
so
I
am
always
charged
with
and
I've,
never
gotten
anything
different
from
from
the
counsel
that
I
must
present
a
balanced
budget
to
you.
If
you
guys
want
to
spend
fund
balance.
B
That
is
up
to
you,
because
that's
what
you
do
you
appropriate
money
and
you
make
policy
so
just
in
in
full
disclosure
I
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
that
the
changes
that
were
made
based
on
this
sheath
that
we
just
went
over,
we
do
have
a
small
deficit
of
1680
that,
if
everything
goes
like,
is
anticipated,
we'll
use
about
two
thousand
dollars
of
fund
balance.
B
So
I
know
it's
pretty
minor,
but
I
don't
want
to
tell
you
that
the
bout
the
budget
is
balanced
because
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
deficit
going
into
this.
But
you
know,
like
I,
said
in
looking.
There
really
wasn't
anyplace
else
that
didn't
already
either
have
a
deficit,
the
park
and
Rec.
We
are
already
using
available
fund
balance
and
BBB
tax,
we're
using
available
fund
balance,
so
there
just
really
wasn't
any
other
good
place
to
put
it
and
it's
not
appropriate
to
put
it
into
the
second
penny
sales
tax.
B
B
B
There
is
no
change
to
add
any
additional
money
to
that
in
the
proposal
that
you
have
in
front
of
you,
so
then
the
last
one
is
the
new
ordinance
that
incorporates
all
of
these
changes,
and
you
know
so.
This
is
the
ordinance
unless
you
make
changes
to
it.
This
is
what
the
ordinance
will
look
like
comes
second
reading
for
you
to
adopt,
so
I
will
open
it
up.
If
you
have
any
questions,
if
you
have
any
suggestions,
I
can
hopefully
answer
them.
So.
H
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B
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B
Right,
yeah
and-
and
that's
that's
just
and
I,
and
when
we
do
this,
balancing
I
always
try
to
be
a
little
bit
more
on
the
positive
side,
just
because
it's
all
a
five-year
rolling
average.
So
you
always
hope
you
do
a
little
better.
But
if
you
don't,
you
at
least
have
a
little
bit
of
a
cushion
but
yeah.
But
this
is
just
right
now.
If
the
numbers
came
in
exactly
like
this
sheet,
I
I
can't
sit
here
and
tell
you
that
I
believe
this
is
a
balanced
budget.
But
it's
within
a
couple
thousand
dollars.
B
I
In
the
urban
renewal
board
has
something
that
they
would
like,
they're
just
going
to
bring
it
to
the
City
Council
and
then
contingency
fund,
or
something
if,
if
we
approve
it,
which
is
what
they
haven't
done
at
this
point,
the
only
two
things
were
the
flowers
and
I
mean
at
this
point.
That's
the
only
two
things.
So
that's
something
else.
It
was
for
the
good
of
the
downtown
area
and
if
they
came
to
the
board,
the
council-
and
we
would
just
take
it
out
of
contingency
funders.
B
Yeah
yeah
or
yeah
I
mean
it
they'd
either.
Do
it
during
the
budget
process
itself
or
if
there's
things
that
came
up
throughout
the
year,
yeah
they'd
have
to
come
and
approach
it
and
be
up
to
you
guys
as
a
governing
body
to
decide
whether
it
was
something
you
wanted
to
do
now,
use
something
you
wanted
to
budget
for
later
right.
D
B
I,
don't
believe
so
because
they,
they
will
still
to
some
extent,
work
with
the
loan
program
and
then
you
know
I
guess
my
hope
is
that
they
they
take
the
comments
that
they
heard.
There
were
board
members
here
that
they
take
those
comments
seriously
and
as
a
board
meet
and
determine
do
we
have
a
plan?
What
do
we
want
to
see?
What
do
we?
B
I
mean
that
that's
that's
up
to
you
guys,
whether
you
feel
that
it
that
it
has
value
or
not.
You
know,
but
but
right
now,
there's
community
members
that
are
questioning
the
value
and
so
I
think
they
as
a
board
need
to
address
those
and
and
try
to
figure
out
where
they
go
from
there
and
I
would
really
encourage
them
to
do
that.
Shelly.
J
Just
a
few
things,
first
of
all,
I
I'm
fine
with
what
you
with
what
you've
done,
a
very
small
deficit
with
unallocated
reserves
that
we've
got
having
this
one.
One
thing
that
does
concern
me
as
I.
Look
at
your
five
year:
history,
though
your
expenditures,
yeah
that
ninety-five
percent
or
ninety
five
point.
B
B
Part
of
the
the
cost
of
the
urban
ooh
of
flowers
was
having
somebody
else
plant
them
keep
them
for
I,
don't
know
six
eight
weeks
to
get
them
to
bloom
to
where
they
were
and
then
help
haenam.
They
would
go
through
and
do
the
watering
system
and
make
sure
that
that
was
all
up
and
running,
and-
and
so
you
know,
those
are
the
things
that
won't
that
that
aren't
funded
at
this
point.
J
There
is
rebound
reason
the
point
I
remember:
when
I
was
involved
in
a
chamber
board,
the
chamber
personnel
were
actually
for
a
time
taking
care
those
flowers,
downtown
and,
and
that
did
not
work.
You
know
that
there
was.
There
was
a
change
in
the
way
those
flowers
are
maintained
and
I
was
definitely
an
improvement,
so
I
didn't
want
to
see
us
going
backwards
compared
to
what
we've
what
were
used
the
last
couple
years
now
so,
okay,
you've
answered
my
question.
Thanks.
C
B
C
B
B
Now
it's
just
it's
there
and
I
did
not
do
anything
with
that.
So
I.
That
can
be
something
that
that
you
can
look
at
it
I
think
it's
it's
good
to
just
do
this
for
eighteen
and
monitor
it
and
see
what
happens
and
then
as
long
as
you're
my
Newell
district
is
there
and
we
have
a
number
we
know
aboard
I,
don't
think
that
there's
any
harm
with
just
keeping
that
money
there.
C
B
A
B
Other
ones
I,
just
I,
incorporated
them
for
them
to
be
correct.
It
wasn't
by
anybody's,
you
know,
I
mean
it
was
just.
It
was
just
to
make
it
as
accurate
as
possible,
and
just
to
give
you
notification
that
these
were
additional
changes
that
were
made,
but
either
way
you
want
to
do.
Your
motion
is
fine.
A
Opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
okay
item,
three
presentation,
review
and
public
input
on
the
proposed
capital
improvement
plan.
The
proposed
capital
improvement
plan
book
can
be
found
on
the
city's
website
under
governments
department
finance
the
hard
copies
available
for
viewing
in
the
finance
office,
all
right
Shelley.
Do
you
want
to
give
an
introduction
hi.
B
Sure
can
this
process
is
just
a
little
bit
less
formal
than
our
2018
budget
process.
This
is
something
that
the
city
has
done
for
a
long
time.
For
a
couple
reasons,
one
is
to
anticipate
any
large
construction
projects
that
are
coming
up
to
understand
their
impact,
both
as
a
as
a
capital
excuse
me
purchase
and
the
ongoing
operating
costs
event
it
allows
some
analytics
like
that
are
bigger
projects
we
determined
whether
we
could
bond
for
them.
B
What
we
wanted
to
bind,
whether
we
want
to
pay
if
we
want
to
save
up
capital
funds
for
it
etc,
and
the
other
thing
that
is
important
is-
and
we
kind
of
break
this
up.
If,
if
anybody
reads
the
the
narrative
it
kind
of
goes
and
explains
what
this
capital
plan
is,
it's
basically
not
really
a
budget,
it's
not
set
in
stone,
it's
something!
That's
reviewed
every
year
by
the
departments
and
like
next
year,
when
they
go
through
the
2019
budget,
they
will
look
at
everything.
B
That's
in
2019
they'll
determine
whether
it
can
be
pushed
back
or
not.
If
something
else
comes
up
that
breaks,
they'll
they'll
swap
things
around
they'll,
they'll
review
it
and
then
they'll.
Stick
it
in
and
then
they'll
go
back
through
and
they'll
redo
their
long-term
capital,
and
so
things
will
move
in
and
out.
They
shouldn't
throw
the
thing
out
and
put
a
whole
new
one
together,
I
mean
you
shouldn't
every
year,
look
at
something
completely
different,
because
that's
not
really
a
plan,
it's
hard
to
plan
for
that.
B
But
basically
the
equipment
is
just
a
placeholder,
so
every
department
is
asked
to
look
at
their
equipment
and
come
up
with
a
useful
life
if
it's
5
years,
7
years,
10
years,
20
years,
50
years
and
then
to
plan
replacements
based
on
that
then
every
year
they
need
to
plan
for
the
current
year
based
on
maintenance
costs.
Necessity
need
and
then
go
back
through
their
long
term.
B
B
Also
for
the
mayor
and
departments
in
sharing
equipment,
we
used
to
trade
everything
everything
got
traded,
we
bid
traded,
got
rid
of
it
and
we
found
that
the
trades
were
not
not
very
good,
and
so
we've
really
started
either
keeping
them
or
giving
them
to
other
departments,
and
that
just
saves
another
department
from
buying
another
expensive
piece
of
equipment.
So
knowing
what
equipment
is
going
to
get
replaced
when
really
helps
other
departments
know.
Ok,
I
need
a
pickup
who's,
getting
rid
of
one
who's
trading,
one
off
the
police,
cars,
the
dump
trucks.
B
B
That's
those
capital
projects.
It
doesn't
mean
that
that
we're
going
to
get
this
this
building
in
this
year,
but
to
the
department
head
in
to
the
public.
It
does
reflect
that
you
support
it
at
some
point
when
the
revenue
sources
are
available,
when
the
need
is
there
and
when
the
ongoing
operating
costs
can
be
sustained.
B
So
you
know
when
you're
talking
about
these
things,
if
you
have
no
support
for
the
projects
that
are
going
on
I,
would
just
I
would
encourage
you
to
state
that
so
that
oops,
so
that
the
department
knows
the
public
knows,
don't
keep
something
in
there
and
let
it
keep
going.
And
then
you
get
to
that
point
and
you
say
I,
don't
like
it
and-
and
you
know
and
they've,
been
planning
for
this
for
the
last
five
years,
and
then
you
wait
till
the
current
year
and
you
don't
like
the
project.
B
So
it's
one
of
those
things
where
that's
something
that
I
don't
know
that
we've
done
in
the
past
that
we
probably
just
need
to
get
better
at
is
identifying
things
that
either
you
just
don't
support,
and
then
we
probably
shouldn't
keep
them
in
and
and
at
some
point,
if
the
support
comes
or
the
need
comes,
you
can
always
put
them
back
in
the
direction
to
the
department.
Heads
is
any
capital
project
that
is
new
should
go
as
far
to
the
back
as
possible
for
one
it
allows
you
to
see
it.
B
For
the
first
time
have
discussion
determine
whether
you
have
support
for
that.
It
gives
a
little
public
input
on
whether
the
public
supports
that
it
also
gives
time
to
start
saving
some
funds.
If
the
intention
is
to
take
that
out
of
cash
reserves,
some
of
these
projects
that
are
four
or
five
million
dollars,
we
don't,
we
don't
have
current
resources
that
can
cover
all
of
those
needs.
So
we
do
need
to
use
some
of
that
capital
reserve
and
we
need
to
have
time
to
accumulate
that.
So
they're
always
asked.
B
Don't
don't
stick
a
three
four
five
million
dollar
project
two
years
out,
because
we're
never
going
to
be
able
to
to
collect
the
funds
to
have
that
available.
Plus
it
doesn't
give
you
enough
time
to
really
look
at
that
research
it
and
determine
whether
that's
something
that
you
want
to
keep
moving
forward
or
that
you
want
to
support,
have.
D
B
Potentially,
all
of
them
anything
that
is
over
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
second
penny,
I
there's
a
whole
spreadsheet
that
I
use
and
I
split
it
out
and
I,
take
a
portion
of
those
costs
and
I
put
them
away
under
a
restricted
cash
account
for
future
capital,
and
so
that's
available.
When
these
big
projects
come
up
that
you're
not
using
existing
fund
balance.
We
just
do
a
journal
entry
and
we
decrease
that
restricted
cash
and
we
use
those
most
of
the
years.
B
K
B
B
J
You
know
we're
looking
at
you
know,
seven
point,
seven,
eight
point:
eight,
you
know
ten
point
three
I
mean
obviously
we're
not
generating
that
kind
of
sales
tax
revenue
right
now.
What
do
we
get?
Seven
point
one
seven
point
through
something
like
that
million,
so
so
obviously
either
some
of
these
things,
you
need
to
be
pushed
back
or
depleting
some
reserves
or
even
a
range
for
some
debt
financing.
So
just
just
to
point
out
that,
based
upon
current
tax
revenues,
we
don't
have
the
the
current
funding
to
pay
for
what
we're
budgeting
in
here.
It.
J
B
But
but
it's
always
it's
always
there
in
the
conservative
way,
though,
that
we
have
always
budgeted
is
whatever
revenue
number
I
come
up
with
I,
take
the
bond
payments
off
the
top
and
then
say:
okay.
This
is
what
we
have
to
work
with
where's
our
where's,
the
requests
and
where
are
the
needs
and
that
kind
of
says
what
what
do
we
have
and
what
do
we
need
to
cut?
B
So
you
always
make
sure
you
can
pay
your
bills
and
then
ya
pay
for
the
rest,
you
know-
and
so
that's
where
part
of
what
this
narrative
is
it
just
because
there's
no
totals
on
any
of
these
departments
it
lets.
You
know
that
there
are
some
cities.
If
you
look,
their
long-term
plan
only
includes
things
that
they're
actually
going
to
put
as
a
fixed
asset
and
depreciate.
B
B
Sometimes
the
the
instinct
is
to
just
keep
that
up,
whether
you
need
it
or
not,
and
then
maybe
even
put
a
little
inflationary
thing
on
to
that,
and
it's
just
better
to
pull
some
of
those
things
out
and
put
them
as
capital,
whether
we,
whether
we
record
them
as
a
capital
asset
or
not.
So
that's
why
you'll
see
smaller
items
that
we
don't
do
every
single
year
listed
as
a
capital
expenditure.
B
It's
just
it's
easier
budgeting,
it's
easier
for
you
guys
to
see
trends,
it's
easier
for
department,
heads
to
see
trends
and
just
easier
to
keep
track
of
budgets
based
on
need,
not
just
based
on
a
number
and
and
not
having
some
of
that
detail
or
remembering
that
you
had
a
larger
purchase
this
year,
but
you're
not
going
to
have
that
this
year.
So
that
just
kind
of
tells
you
and
then
it'll
tell
you
from
the
requests
that
were
made.
B
The
the
mayor
sits
and
meets
with
all
of
the
departments
goes
through
all
of
their
requests,
and
so
through
that
process
there
are
some
changes
that
the
mayor
recommends.
Some
changes
that
the
departments
incorporated
because
of
the
2018
budget
cuts
that
were
made
and
then
some
that
they
just
looked,
and
they
said
that's
gonna,
be
replaced
this
year
or
oops.
I
have
too
many
computers
on
here.
We
can
take
this
one
off
and
just
cleaning
up
the
long
term
CIP
to
reflect
on
what
they
really
were
requesting.
B
So
you
see
all
of
those
by
department
and
what
it
where
it
was
moved
how
it
was
moved.
The
amount
I
tried
to
put
why
and
then
you
can
kind
of
see
on
the
five
years
were
the
the
requests
on
the
mayor's
proposed
long
term.
Cip
is
sixty
million
five
hundred
and
sixty
six
thousand
seven
hundred
ninety
five
dollars,
and
then
you
can
just
kind
of
read
about
where
some
of
those
larger
projects
that
we
talked
about
are
and
then
how
they're
going
to
be
funded.
B
Here's
the
revenue
sources
that
are
going
to
fund
and
then
it
kind
of
again
goes
through
what
we
use
the
equipment
replacement
plan
for
and
and
it's
not
you
know
it's
something
that
you
should
be
aware
of,
and
some
of
the
changes
that
were
made
last
year.
If
you
look
on
each
department,
I
copied
the
mission
statement
that
they
have
from
the
budget
book,
because
I
think
that's
important.
You
need.
B
And
and
again
it's
something
that
if
you
question
why
they
have
you
know
how
many
do
you
have
why
you
have
so
many?
Why
do
you
replace
them
every
ten
years,
not
twelve
fifteen
I
mean,
if
you
want
to
you,
know
I
would
focus
on
those
type
of
things
or
I
know.
One
year
we
talked
about
servers
when
we
had
so
many
of
them
in
the
long
term
and
that's
kind
of
when
we
started
talking
well,
maybe
we
should
get
to
a
central
server
type
thing.
B
Maybe
we
should
become
one
big
network,
maybe
we
you
know,
and
that
was
kind
of
a
direction
to
IT
to
to
start
moving
in
that
direction,
which
is
what
Spencer
has
been
doing
with,
with
phones
with
servers
with
fiber
I'm
trying
to
get
us
more
connected
and
to
take
some
of
that
some
of
that
out,
and
that
does
take
time
to
get
to
that
point.
So
some
of
those
will
still
remain
in
the
long
term,
CIP
until
they're
absolutely
not
needed
any
longer.
B
But
you
know
if
you
have
some
comments
or
questions
on
the
equipment
schedule
that
to
me,
that's
that's
kind
of
more.
What
you
should
be
looking
for
not
specifically
looking
at
what
year
or
you
know
it's
just
it's
a
tool
that
you
can
use
the
long
term
capital
plan
is,
is
really
I,
think
kind
of
the
meat
and
potatoes
of
this,
because
it
for
one
they're
big
dollars
and
they
always
have
an
operating
impact.
Even
when
a
developer
builds
a
road
and
gives
it
to
the
city.
B
It's
gonna
cost
the
city
more
money
to
chip
seal
to
crack,
CEO
to
mill
and
overlay,
because
you're
adding
more
blocks.
So
everything
that
happens
at
some
point
in
time
is
going
to
add
something
to
the
cost
of
the
city
providing
services
and
in
operating.
So
again
we
state
that
this
as
a
city's
firm
intention
to
complete
these
these
projects
in
future
years.
So
if
it
is
something
that
you
just
absolutely
cannot
get
behind,
cannot
support
do
not
want
to
support.
B
Have
that
conversation,
so
the
department
has
don't
think
that
you're
all
on
board
and
then
we
get
to
them,
trying
to
put
it
into
the
current
year
budget,
and
we
have
issues
or
the
public
says.
Oh
you're,
on
board
with
this,
and
eventually
we're
going
to
get
this
when
there's
really
no
intention
of
ever
completing
that
to
me,
it
just
gives
everybody
a
clearer
picture
of
where
your
goals
and
and
admission
is
citywide
and
how
you're
asking
the
different
departments
to
support
those
overall
goals
and
objectives.
H
Got
a
couple
quick
ones
here,
as
we
look
to
either
support
or
not
support
this,
especially
what
we're
talking
about
is
the
bigger
projects
we're
looking
at
a
five-year
window
basically,
but
then
we
have
the
beyond
five-year
category
right.
So
if
we
we
have
a
project
that
okay,
I'm
I'm,
okay
with
the
project
but
I,
just
don't
see
it
fitting
in
the
five
year
plan,
then
what
happens?
How
does
it
get
into
the
beyond
yeah.
B
I
have
a
tab
for
the
for
the
beyond.
We
used
to
keep
more
closer
track
on
that,
but
it
was
just.
It
was
kind
of
something
that
got
forgotten
and
so
I
guess,
if
you
don't
want
to
support
it
in
the
five
year
because
of
the
fact
that
we
put
funds
aside,
I
would
remove
it
and
say
it
belongs
somewhere
in
the
future,
and
then
hopefully
the
department
head
is
here.
If
they
are
not,
I
will
make
sure
that
I.
B
H
Because
that
that's
a
very
important
point
is
we
used?
Have
that
one
word
say:
okay,
we
don't
think
it's
really
gonna
fit
in
here.
I
like
the
project,
let's
keep
it
on
the
radar
and
we
put
it
in
that
beyond
the
five-year
thing.
So
it
was
on
the
radar
from
our
standpoint
today,
not
that
we
don't
like
the
project
per
se
great,
but
it
is
it
the
right
project
in
the
five-year
span
right.
B
That's
critical,
you
know
and
like
I
said,
we
used
to
have
that,
but
it
almost
like
you
got
forgotten.
So
there
were
some
things
that
run
the
five-year
and
beyond
then
never
got
off
of
it.
That
just
stayed
there
forever
and
and
never
got
addressed
and-
and
you
know
so
I
last
year
in
this
year,
I
have
not
put
that
in
there.
J
B
You
know
I
always
make
an
attempt
to
get
a
little
bit
better
than
I
was
before
and
from
listening
to
some
of
the
comments,
and
even
just
from
me
trying
to
put
these
together
I
thought.
Maybe
it
would
be
easier
to
look
at
this
kind
of
like
we
look
at
the
budget
book,
so
I
tried
to
make
it
a
little
more
similar
looking
and
have
a
little
less
clutter
and
then
I
thought
it
was
important
to
have
that
equipment
replacement
schedule.
B
If
you're
gonna
look
at
the
equipment
replacement
schedule,
you
should
probably
have
a
little
bit
more
information
and
then
also
to
just
always
keep
in
mind
for
not
only
the
public
but
also
for
you
really
whatwhat's
this
department
here,
for
you
can
get
so
used
to
seeing
a
department
what's
its
mission.
What
what
is
it
trying
to
do
as
far
as
providing
services
to
this
community-
and
you
always
have
to
keep
that
in
mind
when
you
look
at
what
the
requests
are
the
money
that's
being
appropriated
to
it?
B
And
do
you
feel
that
that
is
providing
what
we
need
to
fill
this
overall
mission
and
and
what
this
department
is
here
for
are?
Are
we
getting
a
little
bit
off
track
because
sometimes
you
can
branch
out
to
a
point
where
you
know
the
integrity
of
what
this
department
was
actually
brought
here
to
do
is
a
little
convoluted,
so
you
always
need
to
keep
in
mind
that
we're
not
branching
out
to
a
point
where
maybe
we're
compromising
the
integrity
of
the
department
itself.
H
B
This
is
something
that
really
they
brought
and,
along
with
the
mayor,
talked
about
it
determined
that
that
they
were
going
to
support
this
so
other
than
just
kind
of
going
through
and
talking
about
it.
If
you
guys
have
any
questions,
yell,
em,
otherwise,
I'm,
just
gonna
kind
of
keep
moving
on,
because
there's
some
that
don't
have
a
whole
lot.
B
If
you
have
any
computer
IT
technology
questions,
if
you
could
have
those
addressed
to
Spencer,
he
basically
took
an
entire
year,
bless
you
and
got
with
all
of
the
departments,
and
he
has
a
database
of
all
of
their
technology
and
so
he's
keeping
track
of
their
replay
since
their
needs.
And
you
saw
that
kind
of
in
the
2018
budget,
where
we
started
moving
some
of
that
stuff
under
the
IT
department
for
him,
because
he
does
all
the
ordering
and
he
and
he
sets
him
up
and
and
kind
of
goes
through
the
need.
B
So
he
took
care
of
most
of
that
and
we
went
through
that
with
him
during
this
process.
So
if
there
are
any
specific
questions
about
that
address
those
to
Spencer,
otherwise
that
the
departments
are
here,
if
you
have
any
questions
so
the
first
one
is
a
mayor
and
city
council
and
they're
one
that
basically
has
just
the
technology.
There's
a
few
printers
computers,
the
council
mayor,
laptops,
I,
know
that's
something
that
you
guys
are
going
to
go
through
next
year
and
kind
of
get
a
feel
on.
What
are
your
needs?
B
What
do
you
want
to
see?
What's
useful?
What's
not
and
whether
you
want
to
continue
with
that
program,
whether
you
don't
I
know
when
I
first
got
here,
councils
didn't
have
computers,
and
then
you
got
them
and
so
and
then
since
then,
almost
all
of
you
have
changed,
or
probably
all
of
you
have
changed.
So
it's
something
that
probably
should
be
reviewed
technology
is
always
changing,
so
I
know.
Spencer
has
been
charged
with
that
to
just
kind
of
what
do
you
guys
want?
What
do
you
guys
need?
B
If
you
want
to
put
something
with
them,
so
everything
always
gets
a
little
bit
more
expensive
and
so
I
think
we
used
to
I
think
there
was
13,000
or
something
like
that,
and
we
did
up
that
because
we
didn't
feel
that
that
was
a
realistic
number
to
replace
all
of
those.
So
does
anybody
have
any
questions.
There
is
no
long-term
capital
improvement
for
the
mayor
and
city
council
when.
H
B
Yeah,
because
sometimes
you
can,
if
you
put
an
inflationary
you
can,
you
can
get
pretty
crazy
when
you
get
out,
because
some
things
have
an
inflationary
and
some
things
have
less
of
an
inflationary
cost.
Some
things
actually
can
go
down.
I
mean
we've
actually
decreased
the
the
the
cost
of
our
printers,
because
you
can
get
more
for
less
so
know.
Most
most
of
them
will
not
put
an
inflationary
cost,
the
farther
out
they
go.
B
This
is
where
the
Senior
Center
is
an
older
building.
Every
year
we
seem
to
have
some
costs
associated
with
the
maintenance
of
that
building.
So
a
few
years
ago
we
just
started
putting
in
five
thousand
dollars
for
any
of
those,
and
it's
really
up
to
the
the
people
at
the
Senior
Center
to
tell
us
if
there's
any
issues
and
then
the
administrative
building.
If
you
remember
last
year
we
had
two
and
a
half
million
in
and
then
one
and
a
half
million
and.
B
I
have
had
no
meetings
with
the
county,
so
I
don't
know
how
quickly
they
would
want
to
move
on
a
building.
What
their
plans
are,
if
they're
still
interested
in
that
or
if
they're
kind
of
going
back
to
the
drawing
board
or
what
their
plans
are
but
didn't
know
if
it
was
appropriate
to
move
it
too
far
back
until
their
intentions
are
a
little
more
clear
whether
they're,
whether
they're
serious
about
that
or
or
they're
really
not,
they
were
just
looking
at
all
their
options
so
to
speak.
Shelley.
H
On
this
one,
then,
you
know:
we've
talked
about
having
some
dollars
available
within
our
budget
wherever
for
perspective
land
purchases
at
times,
and
one
of
them
was
if
the
right
opportunity,
hall
or
administrative
building
that
we
would
certainly
want
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of.
That
is
that
what
this
number
could
also
represent,
or
is
this
actually
the
building?
Is
there
something
different
for
potential
land
acquisition
and,
let's
say
costs
to
get
that
if
there's
a
building
there
day
today
to
get
it
raised
and
get
a
lot
at
a
level
that.
B
B
This
number
was
more
for
the
construction
at
the
time,
though,
that
the
previous
marathon
was
looking
at
locations.
We
had
put
$200,000
in
to
the
current
year
budget
and
we
had
carried
that
forward,
I
think
at
least
one
year,
maybe
two
so
right
now
there
is
nothing
I,
don't
believe
in
the
18
budget
for
land
I,
don't
believe
that
we
have
a
line
and
without
seeing
it
I,
don't
think
so.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
have
anything
like
that.
B
The
only
thing
that
we
have
in
our
restricted
cash
was
that
land
sale
from
G
le
that
we
told
the
glacial
lakes
that
we
would
our
glacial
lakes,
that
we
would
that
we
told
WDC
that
we
would
hold
in
a
restricted
cash
account
to
go
in
with
them
on
a
land
sale,
but
otherwise,
right
now,
there's
nothing
in
the
18
budget
for
land
purchases.
We.
I
B
J
F
J
But
but
I
think
we
all
acknowledge
that
we're
essentially
pulling
numbers
out
of
the
the
sky
at
point,
so
I
think
there's
no
I
mean
a
number
in
here
is
fine
as
far
as
what
the
number
is
gonna
be.
But
what
I
do
what
I
do
like
in
the
comments
that
I've
heard
is
I
think
pursuing
something
with
the
county
definitely
has
some
merits,
and
so
whatever
that
number
is
I
would.
G
B
So
you
don't
have
the
extra
cost
of
elevator
and
that
type
of
thing
so
that
that's
why
that
number
I
mean
it
is
a
realistic
number.
Now,
if
you
would
go
in
on
a
joint
building,
I
don't
know
because
then
you
have
two
parties
that
have
to
agree
on
what
the
design,
the
layout,
the
construction
material
all
of
that
type
of
thing.
But
it
was
a
realistic
number
now
would
it
have
covered
the
architect
and
engineering
costs
no
or
the
land
costs?
B
Probably
not,
but
you
could
at
least
construct
a
building,
so
the
2.5
didn't
you
know
all
I
did
was
just
cut
off
the
1.5
and
just
left
the
2.5,
because
really
until
they
give
a
firm
intention
and
I
don't
even
know
what
they
want
to
put
in
there.
What
the
size
would
be,
what
the
location
would
be
it's
hard
to
hard
to
even
imagine
what
those
costs
would
come
out
to
being
what
our
square
footage
need
would
be
based
on
their
square
footage
and
I'm
guessing
the
cost
of
the
building
would
be
appropriate.
B
F
B
It
is
I
I
figured
within
a
year.
The
county
would
have
to
determine
just
based
on
their
jail
space
and
their
their
needs.
Within
a
year.
They're
gonna
have
to
come
up
with
something
they're
gonna
have
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
B
or
you
know,
go
back
with
another
bond
issue,
so
I
would
think
within
the
next
six
eight
months
you
should.
You
should
hear
something
from
them
as
to
what
their
intentions
are
and
whether
they
want
the
city
to
participate
in
that
or
not
so.
I
B
B
Okay,
next
page
number,
10
is
the
city
attorney
again
just
computers,
printers
laptop
some
of
it
was
moved
around
a
little
bit
just
based
on
the
fact
that
that
position
is
vacant
and
and
Spencer
can
maybe
answer
this
better.
But
the
computer
was
moved
closer
in,
because
Spencer
had
used
her
Spencer
Justin
had
used
a
laptop
and
a
docking
station,
and
if
the
new
city
attorney
coming
in
wasn't
comfortable
with
that
or
wanted
to
use
something
different,
there
was
funds
available
to
make
those
those
adjustments
and
those
changes
at
that
time.
M
B
B
They
aren't
the
most
friendly
to
deal
with
we're
gonna,
get
to
a
point
where
they're
gonna
want
us
to
move
to
what
they
call
version.
10
utilities
has
version
10
and
they
still
hate
it,
and
so
that
gives
me
a
whole
lot
of
pause
to
why
I
want
to
jump
on
that
bandwagon
when,
after
two
years,
they
still
don't
like
it,
because
it
still
has
bugs
that
still
isn't
very
user
friendly.
The
other
thing
they
haven't
kept
up
with
is
dashboards,
better
reports
that
you
can
just
dump
into
Excel.
B
It's
a
very
tedious
system
to
do
that.
They
don't
have
customized
reports.
Every
report
costs
us
anywhere
from
one
to
four
thousand
dollars.
If
it's
not
a
standard
one
that
they
put
in
there
right
now,
we're
we're
I
think.
Are
we
on
a
server
we're
on
a
server
correct,
so
you
have
to
do
updates
every
week.
M
Just
add
to
that
we're
getting
really
close
there
I
have
other
concerns
with
we're
gonna
be
going
Windows
10
in
some
time.
You
know
we'll
have
to
make
that
jump
and
I'm
concerned
about
compatibility
issues
there,
as
well
as
we
have
to
integrate
two
software's
together.
So
we
have
in
code,
and
then
we
have
laser
fish
and
they've
got
to
talk
together,
we're
losing
out
on
support
with
laser
fish,
because
we
have
to
have
an
older
version
that
integrates
with
the
old
in
code,
so
we're
losing
out
on
support
there.
J
Just
a
comment
you
heard
my
pitch
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
about
the
cloud-based
system
for
the
email
service.
I
guess
I
mean
depending
upon
how
that
goes,
and
how
that
works
for
us.
I
really
think
that's
something
we
want
to
give
consideration
to
for
other
applications,
including
the
accounting
software.
This
is
yeah,
you
know
so
before
we
make
a
decision.
I
definitely
like
to
see
us
consider
some
kind
of
cloud-based
options
out
there
too
yeah.
M
B
B
It's
just
your
ongoing
maintenance
costs
are
just
a
little
bit
different,
but
when
you
go
from
one
to
the
other,
whether
it's
cloud
or
not,
they're
gonna
do
a
lot
of
work.
Building
our
system
into
theirs
and
then
dumping
all
the
information
and
then
right,
usually
they'll,
run
them
parallel
for
a
month
to
make
sure
that
it's
working
and
get
the
bugs
out
and
make
sure
that
everything
is
talking
appropriately.
B
M
B
And
we
also,
when
I,
went
to
GFO
a
the
conference
in
Denver
this
last
year.
The
one
question
I
asked
everybody
who
does
has
an
accounting
is:
do
you
have
like
a
building
services
module
for
permits,
for
you
know,
keeping
track
of
databases
and,
and
that
type
of
thing
for
billing
for
sending
stuff
out,
and
there
is
at
least
three
of
them
that
do
so.
B
That's
something
that
that
we've
never
had
access
to
something
that
we
could
add
onto
this
platform
that
could
serve
engineering
and
building
services,
as
well
as
as
finance
and
another
piece
that
could
integrate.
So
we
do
less
journal
entries.
We
do
let
you
know
we
become
more
efficient
because
we're
all
raw
one
platform
just
have
different
modules
that
talk
to
each
other.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
to
gain
from
it
and
and
it's
it's
time
it's
time
to
look
at
options,
and
you
know
and
I
think
to
better
serve
what
water
tone
needs.
M
B
C
B
Yep
they'll
come
and
they'll
train
you
and
then
like
I,
said
you'll
do
the
old
system
and
you
do
the
new
system
in
tandem
for
a
month
and
then,
when
you
do
your
month
end
you
do
all
of
those
reports
together
and
do
you
come
up
with
the
same
number
to
make
sure
that
the
integrity
of
your
beginning
balances
are
there
as
well,
as
is
a
system
working?
Is
it
talking
to
each
other?
Is
it
pulling
from
the
right
places?
Do
you
have
any
bugs?
B
Do
you
have
anything
that
you
need
to
work
out
anything
that
you
need
to
change
anything
they
didn't
incorporate
so
yeah
it.
It
is
just
a
lot
of
work.
You
feed
them
a
tremendous
amount
of
information
and
then
they
build
each
individual
thing
and
then
they
come
back
to
you
and
you
look
at
it
and
you
have
troubleshoot
different
things
and
then
you
know
I
mean
so
it
it
takes
a
lot
of
time.
So.
C
D
D
B
They
run
a
completely
separate
set
of
books
over
there
and
we
basically
for
our
stuff.
We
have
one
revenue
account.
One
expenditure
account
to
keep
our
books
balanced
with
the
cash
and
and
that
will
become
even
less
of
an
issue
if
they
split
off
their
cash,
but
no,
no
because
they
run
a
different
accounting
system
for
years
before
they
change
to
encode.
So
Spencer.
E
M
B
I
did
ask
that
question
to
when
I,
when
I
approached
the
the
different
vendors
that
were
there,
you
know
what
are
their
requirements
and
they
said
either
way
it's
you
know
they
would
have
some
server
requirements
if
we
would
actually
go
on
a
server
in
that
cloud-based,
but
they
said
with
cloud-based
they
just
the
computer
speed
is,
is
it's
pretty
minimal
of
what
their
requirements
are?
Anything
kind
of
goes
yep.
G
B
B
So
if
you
want
to
talk
about
those
and
then
if
you
will
notice
in
the
past,
we've
had
five
years
worth
of
fiber-optic
infrastructure
and
we
have
only
one
year
and
so
Spencer.
If
you
want
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
your
plans
are
for
there
and
the
twenty
five
thousand
only
going
through
2019.
So.
M
We'll
start
with
the
Microsoft
licensing,
so
what
we're
doing
this
year
and
the
2018
budget
is
were
trying
to
get
everyone
on
a
certain
version
of
Microsoft
Office.
So
we
bought
a
lot
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
getting
everyone
on
the
same
version
and
then
in
four
or
five
six,
seven
years
we
make
a
big
purchase.
That
80
thousand
I
believe
is
what
I
have
in
here.
M
It
would
make
an
eighty
thousand
dollar
purchase
and
then
everyone
on
the
city
is
running
the
same
versions
that
are
doing
this
per
computer,
because
it's
unmanageable
and
I'm
worried
about
audits
and
making
sure
that
everything's
kosher,
so
we
just
buy
all
of
our
license,
so
we
know
everyone's
compatible
and
we're
good
for
not
it
for
Microsoft,
which
they're
doing
a
lot
of
that
is.
So
that's
the
80,000.
Any
questions
on
that.
M
As
far
as
the
networking
goes
through,
the
fiber
builds
that
we've
been
doing
with
these
25,000.
That
we'll
talk
about
in
a
little
bit,
there's
been
some
network
networking
that
needs
to
be
done
to
connect
all
the
buildings
up
and
the
way
that
works
is
we
use
a
piece
of
hardware
that
has
a
five-year
license
associated
with,
so
we
have
a
management
portal
that
we
can
work
on
them
and
after
five
years
they
basically
shut
it
off.
M
So
what
we
have
to
do
is
I
have
to
put
my
in
the
budget
to
either
renew
the
license
or
replace
and
replace
the
equipment.
So
what
I
did
is
I
put
in
an
approximate
number
to
replace
the
equipment
five
years
out
as
that
approaches
and
gets
closer,
we'll
make
the
decision
on.
Do
we
want
to
buy
a
three
year
license
for
it?
J
M
We
were
to
look
at
a
new
building
from
an
ID
stamp
on
him
a
little.
It
would
be
very
interesting
to
see
how
IT
is
handled
first
off,
because
the
wiring
in
a
joint
building
and
m9
now
do
I
gain
County
work.
I
mean
there'd,
be
a
lot
of
questions
on
how
it
be
handled
from
an
IT
perspective,
because
you
have
a
structure
and
all
of
those
wires
run
a
certain
place.
So
do
we
have
two
separate
networks
in
there,
or
does
everyone
run
on
our
network?
M
M
We
did
change
our
michael
at
the
fiber
hub
over
to
the
police
department,
so
it
would
only
really
affect
our
redundancy
and
our
in
our
connection
here
at
City
Hall,
which
is
a
big
deal
but
I
think
if
we
planned
it
properly
and
we're
close
to
downtown
where
our
most
our
fiber
is
or
if
utilities
can
get
to
it,
I
feel
pretty
confident
that
we
can
make
a
transition
that
would
work.
Just
fine,
but
there
would
be
I
would
have
to
be
heavily
involved
in
the
design,
and
you
know
setup
of
that
building.
M
Because
we've
pretty
much
got
our
core
buildings
that
I
feel
like
we're.
Pretty
good
we're
gonna
have
them
connected
and
then
we're
working
with
vast
next
year
to
get
the
MPLS
lines.
It
might
be
something
we'll
want
to
explore
in
the
future
say
if
we
can
easily
get
you
know,
line
out
to
solid
waste
or
waste
water.
If
we
ever
have
the
opportunity
to
add
fiber
might
be
something
I
come
to
you
guys
and
say:
hey!
M
So
I
mean
if
you
can
think
about
it
right
now,
it's
2017,
so
you
know
you
could
have
been
running
2007
office,
which
it
really
depends
on
what
staff
goes.
Oh,
my
gosh
did
you
know
the
new
version
could
do
XYZ
and
ours
is
10
years
old
or
you
know
perceived
as
10
years
old.
It's
really.
It
really
depends
on
what
Microsoft
does
to
push
out.
M
M
What
we'll
want
to
do
is
we'll
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
always
on
kinda
than
then
when
they
were
Microsoft
rolls
out
a
new
product
we
want
to
get
in
there
another
option
we're
going
to
have
as
we
get
closer
to
this
as
we
we're
going
to
move
our
exchange
server
up
to
the
cloud.
What
we
could
look
at
is
doing
a
full
fledge
office
365,
where
we
basically
had
the
Microsoft
licensing.
To
that.
That's
that's
another
option
we'll
have
then
we
always
have
the
latest
apps
but
I.
M
B
Move
on
to
the
engineering
department:
again,
they
basically
just
have
kind
of
those
IT
needs
him.
Shane
didn't
have
anything
additional
any
other
equipment
in
the
budget
and
then
under
the
capital
part
is
the
Pictometry
updates
and
I.
Think
that's
mayor
can
probably
say
more
on
that,
but
I
think
it's
like
a
three
year
cycle
and
we
do
that
with
the
county
and
I've
never
heard
anything.
A
B
Otherwise,
if
you
have
any
questions
on
their
vehicles,
their
firearms,
a
TD
I
mean
it's,
it's
pretty
routine
stuff
a
lot
of
times
when
the
time
comes,
they've
gotten
grants
for
some
for
some
of
their
radios,
some
of
their
equipment,
but
they
never
really
know
until
that
time
is
coming.
So
we
always
budget
it
like
like
we're,
gonna
pay
for
it
and
then,
if
it
comes
through,
is
there
anybody
who
has
any
specific
questions
on
anything
I.
C
C
O
H
O
When
they're
done
with
it
they're
kind
of
worn
out
Mike,
we
did
get
some
of
their
equipment
when
they
the
other
building
couple
items.
One
was
a
bicycle
and
once
we
got
it
over
there,
it
wasn't
worth
keeping
that's
for
two
and
we
could
definitely
spread
that
out
over
a
couple
of
years
to
their
better
quality
and
then
once
you
put
in
your
house
because
they
get
more
use,
so
we
budget
about
6,000
per.
So
it
doesn't
say
on
there
that
that's
too,
but
that's
what
that
is
I.
O
It's
the
105
is
for
three
okay,
we've
always
kind
of
had
four
out.
There
is
a
placeholder,
and
this
year
we
look
through
it
and
for
next
year
we're
only
gonna
get
two.
We
look
one
more
year
ahead
and
we
only
need
three
good
and
then,
after
that,
we're
back
for
four
and
every
year
we
kind
of
reevaluate
that
so
when
we
come
back
before
you
next
year,
that
might
be
three
again
the
following
year:
okay,
so.
B
F
B
O
And
with
any
new
building
Glen,
when
you
bid
it
out,
you
don't
always
get
the
highest
quality
of
stuff
we've
already.
Please
replace
one
piece
of
carpet
in
our
briefing
room,
just
cuz
the
daily
use
and
the
seams
and
the
carpet
throughout
the
hallways.
They
start
to
show
little
where
we
do
clean
it
yearly
and
try
to
keep
it
as
best
we
can.
So
we
figure
we
best
put
something
in
there
for
the
future
years
to
take
care
of
that
same
with
the
linoleum.
O
B
And
for
them
they're
kind
of
in
the
same,
you
know
they
have
a
certain
piece
of
equipment
that
they
routinely
replace
a
couple
larger
pieces
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
the
second
penny
can
fund
is
fire
trucks
and
ambulances,
so
on
their
larger
pieces
of
equipment
on
their
fire
trucks
and
ambulances,
those
will
come
from
the
second
penny.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
any
of
their
vehicle
or
equipment
replacements.
L
So
I
a
tender
truck
is
a
tanker
truck
with
a
pump
choose
for
the
county
where
hydrants
aren't
available.
So
it's
it's
actually
a
tanker
truck
modified
into
carrying
its
own
pump.
So
it's
a
fire
truck
with
a
big
tank
so
and
the
rescue
truck
actually,
which
is
scheduled
for
2022,
is
our
smaller
little
rescue
51,
which
is
a
lighter
extrication,
lighter
smaller
pump.
L
There's
that
is
correct,
quite
a
few
items
we
do
get
some
grants
for
a
lot
of
our
SCA
SCBA
equipment.
Are
our
radios?
That's
some
of
the
stuff
we've
been
taking
advantage
of
in
the
past.
We
believe
some
of
those
pieces
of
equipment
we'll
still
have
that
available
in
the
future,
and
we
just
don't
know
that
for
sure,
hey.
L
So
actually
we
were
looking
at
that,
and
the
1993
I
believe
is.
There
is
a
suburban,
it's
a
service
vehicle
right
now.
What
what
we
have
in
2019
is
actually
one
of
our
it's
a
2004
and
that's
basically
my
vehicle,
and
we
have
some
money
in
there.
It's
starting
to
get
up
there,
it's
a
125
thousand
miles
on
it.
L
What
we're
hoping
for
is
to
replace
that
with
possibly
one
of
these
four-wheel
drive
squad
vehicles
or
something
in
the
future,
it's
it's
kind
of
a
placeholder
in
case
that
doesn't
happen,
and
obviously
20,000
is
just
for
a
call
to
use
one
in
case
we
don't
find
another
source,
the
one
in
actually
the
one
in
that's
it's
for
30,000
in
2021.
That
would
be
for
another
command
vehicle
that
would
not.
That
would
not
be
for
the
suburban
and
that's
also
a
placeholder.
L
So
that's
actually
a
2005
and
we'd
like
to
use
a
squad
car
or
something
possibly
in
the
future,
for
that
as
well.
The
the
2010
that's
45,000
and
2023.
That's
actually
our
command
vehicle
for
the
battalion
Chiefs
of
the
BC
rig,
and
that
would
be
an
emergency
vehicle
that
would
be
replaced
in
2023,
then
that
one
would
probably
be
utilized
as
more
of
a
service
ring
possibly
over
to
another
station
or
something
so
I
think
that
eventually
would
replace
that
1993.
L
L
Yes,
yes,
okay,
typically
the
tender
truck,
we
have.
We
have
looked
at
a
lot
of
options.
Obviously
a
brand
new
tender
truck
is
is
higher
than
then
two
hundred
thousand,
but
we're
looking
at
different
ways
because
it
is
used
outside
in
the
in
the
the
county
for
the
townships
and
so
to
try
and
reduce
that
price
by
looking
at
possibly
a
refurbished
truck
or
something
like
that.
That
would
be
rebuilt
and
would
would
serve
service
adequately.
L
Shows
that
that's
actually
inside
of
one
of
our
our
older
buildings,
our
older
truck
room
and
stuff,
we
we
found
some
areas
or
you
like
to
do
some
modifications
to
to
get
some
additional
sprinklers,
with
inside
the
existing
truck
room
and
with
the
the
high
dollars
of
equipment
and
in
that
building
and
stuff
we'd
like
to
put
some
protection
in
turn
and
case.
There's
a
lot
of
charges,
a
lot
of
vehicles
plugged
in
all
the
time
and
stuff,
and
it
would
just
make
sense
for
that
that
amount
of
money
to
make
those
modifications
yeah.
B
L
I'd
be
glad
to
so
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
we've.
We've
talked
about
this
over
the
last
seven
eight
years
that
the
possibility
of
a
nice
fire
station
and
what
I'd
really
like
to
do.
We
brought
it
down
on
to
the
five-year
plan
to
just
just
review
it
and
look
at
it
and
what
I
really
like
to
do
it
with
the
with
the
east
fire
station
over
the
next
couple
years
is
just
start
gathering
data.
L
What
I
really
like
to
do
is
just
identify
the
land
and
look
at
it
over
the
next
couple
of
years
and
try
and
find
that
spot
and
then
and
then,
if,
if
the
numbers
don't
support
it,
what
we
collect
them,
then,
then
that
can
be
moved
to
whatever
it
seems
to
need
to
be
fit.
So
that's
that's
my
recommendation.
Just
looking
at
in
the
future.
H
Shelley
any
other
question
in
regard
to
you
know
it's
the
second
time
we've
talked
about
the
possibility
of
needing
capital
for
land
purchase,
we
talked
about
potentially
administrative
building,
and
now
we've
talked
about
this
and
I
think
both
of
those
are
extremely
important.
So
if
we
were
to
take
something,
let's
say
some
portion
of
this
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
and
move
it
up
a
couple
years,
let's
just
say:
does
that
mean
that
something
in
that
year
we're
moving
into,
has
got
to
move
out?
H
B
In
with
the
long
term
portion
of
it,
you
always
want
to
be
cognizant
of
what
you're
putting
in
and
is
it
realistic,
and
we
kind
of
talked
about
that
that
there
are
certain
years
where
it's
just
not
we're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
support
everything.
That's
going
to
be
done,
but
if
you
want
to
move
things
around
it,
it's
that's
not
only
when
you
move
stuff
into
2018.
H
G
H
Think
we're
we
have
opportunities.
We've
talked
about
some
I
think
we
have
to
have
some
dollars
in
for
a
possible
land
acquisition
for
the
administrative
building
and
I'm
with
Doug
on.
We
know,
there's
gonna
be
need
out
east
somewhere
for
for
in
east
location,
of
whatever
it
ends
up
being,
and
it
is
important
that
we
identify
that
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
today,
but
it's
important
that
we
get
identified
and
get
a
piece
of
land
before
everybody
builds
their
houses
around
there.
M
H
Then
they
don't
want
a
fire
department
in
their
in
their
neighborhood.
We
need
to
say
here's
our
site,
so
people
know
what's
coming
and
then
they
can
make
decisions
of
what
they're
gonna
do
in
regards
to
how
that's
developed
around
it.
So
I
know
Doug
that
you've
got
the
software
and
I
know
we're
looking
at
the
data
and
I
think
that's
the
right
approach
to
take
to
see
where
our
calls
are
on
times
and
all
that
type
of
thing.
H
But
I
think
if
we
wait,
administrative
building
lies
and
if
we
wait
till
2020,
where
we
at
three
to
at
least
allocate
some
dollars
planning
wise
for
either
one
of
those
sites,
I
think
we're
making
a
mistake.
I
think
we
need
to
have
money
available
to
us
at
any
point
in
time.
When
that
opportunity
comes
along
and
just
carryover,
then
I
really
do.
B
It
could
be
any
any
land
purchases
that
come
up
that
the
city
feels
is
important,
but
I
mean
maybe
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
kind
of
a
recurring
item
in
the
second
penny,
if
we're
looking
at,
if
you're
going
to
support
having
an
administrative
bill,
building
a
nice
fire
station
and
we're
gonna
get
to
the
street
department
relocating
the
street
department
there
again,
where
do
you
put
it?
What
do
you
do?
F
B
C
H
I
think
the
difference
on
on
the
two
items
that
we've
talked
about.
Is
it
really
isn't
matter
of
if
it
is
a
matter
of
when
it's
not
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
use
this
word
nicety.
It's
not
like
a
nicety
of
a
softball
facility
or
an
ice
facility
that
we
can
make
decisions
and
there's
no.
We
have
obligations.
We
have
needs
at
both
of
those
items.
H
D
G
D
Thoughts
to
that
and
it's
I
think
it's
come
up
in
our
minds
before
and
you
look
at
things
like
the
Sun
Chase.
We
had
to
act
quickly.
We
took
that
out
of
reserves.
Okay,
we
came
fairly
close
to
selling
the
you
know
land
over
here
that
the
potential
jail
was
going
to
go
to
well.
That
was
always
kind
of
semi
targeted
for
a
city
hall.
Well,
that
would
have
been
gone
and
then
we
would
have
had
a
place
or
a
potential
placeholder
I
I
think
the
idea
is
merit.
A
How
much
factor
of
safety
do
you
need
I
mean
the
three
buildings
I
see
coming
in
the
foreseeable
future?
City
Hall?
We
have
a
piece
of
land,
that's
ideally
located.
That
would
be
a
top
choice,
given
any
circumstances
we
already
own.
It
may
not
work
out
that
we
put
it
there
for
some
reason,
but
right
now
we
own
it.
So
do
we
really
need
to
be
putting
money
aside,
for
that
in
case,
we
change
our
mind
or
whatever
a
same
goes
for
the
fire
station.
A
We
currently
own
land,
that,
after
analysis,
we
thought
was
an
ideal
location
for
an
east
fire
station.
We
still
own
that
land
and
it
I
still
think
I
mean
I
would
want
to
confer
with
others,
still
appears
ideal
to
me
for
an
east
fire
station.
So
do
we
just
want
to
put
money
aside
in
case
we
change
our
mind.
Okay,
the
street
department
we
currently
own
land
in
a
really
ideal
location
for
a
street
department
already,
should
we
put
money
aside
in
case
we
change
our
mind,
I
mean
what
factor
of
safety
do
we
need?
A
D
Question
friend
that
Sara,
how
did
we,
how
did
we
fund
all
those
person
we
didn't
put
money
in
budget
for
those
did
all
those
come
out
of
the
general
fund
and/or
the
reserves?
They
all
came
out
of
reserves,
I'm
sorry's,
where
they
came
from
so
that
strategy
has
worked
thus
far,
do
we
need
to
do
the
extra
step
like
we're
talking
about
here.
B
B
The
extra
step
allocates
current
year
resources
versus
saying
you're
unallocated
reserves
are
used
for
unanticipated
things
like
land
comes
available
for
sale.
That's
the
difference
is,
is
it's
two
different
pots
of
money
that
you're
pledging
for
that?
Just
in
case
scenario,
maybe
the
county
would
rather
look
at
the
Midland
building
versus
land
we
own.
Maybe
something
would
happen
to
the
east
station
where
it
would
become
not
so
ideal
anymore.
B
Maybe
something
would
happen
to
the
ideal
location
for
the
street
department
and
maybe
we'd
have
to
buy
some
additional
land
or
do
some
additional
improvements
to
it
over
and
above
or
whatever
you
know,
I
mean,
and
it's
just
it's
a
different
methodology
of,
if
you
put
it
in
the
budget.
Whoever
is
sitting
in
this
seat
needs
to
find
resources
to
pay.
B
For
that,
and
usually
we
try
to
do
that
and
current
your
resources,
whatever
we're
going
to
take
in
we're
going
to
spend
on
that
budget,
or
do
you
just
use
your
reserves
and
then
you
just
have
to
be
really
choosy
about
what
you
use,
because
you
keep
dipping
into
your
savings
account
pretty
soon.
You
have
no
savings,
so
you
know
that's
the
danger.
You
use
about
not
budgeting
for
things
and
then
always
dipping
into
that
reserve.
Just.
D
On
that
point,
I
I'm
comfortable
kind
of
the
way
the
strategies
work
this
far
because
we
dip
into
reserves,
but
that
money
is
not
gone,
that's
tied
up
in
land
and
that
that's
not
going
to
go
to
zero.
We
couldn't
run
it
an
up/down
cycle,
but
the
money's
not
all
gone.
So
if
we
had
a
liquid
a
for
whatever
reason
we
can
recapture.
D
H
Good
Lord
only
knows
when
you
know
if
and
when
we'll
spend
those
dollars,
but
I
would
take
some
segments
of
the
dollars
that
we
have
in
each
one
of
these
items
and
I
would
move
it
forward
just
for
that
purpose
of
planning
of
potential
land
acquisition.
You
know
if
we
were
to
sell
if
we
were
to
sell
the
the
land
to
the
the
county.
Like
was
projected
for
the
new
Justice
Center,
well,
that
land
that
site
was
bought
with
the
idea
of
new
City
Hall
would
go
there.
H
Then
we
shouldn't
be
going
out
and
buying
a
new
parking
lot.
We
should
be
putting
that
money
towards
land
on
a
new
city,
hall
or
administrative
building.
If
we
sell
our
land
for
the
we're
a
city
streets.
Is
that
then
that
money
should
go
back
towards
land
or
building
for
the
city,
streets
and
I?
Don't
know
Sara,
where
I've
never
heard
about
potential
site,
be
honest
for
the
city
streets
to
move
yeah.
A
I'm
thinking
the
area
that
we
call
the
snow
hole
where
the
yeah
I
mean
that
could
be,
that
area
could
be
used
for
street
department
access
and
continue
to
be
used
as
a
snow
hole.
We
wouldn't
need
the
whole
thing
for
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
want
to
discontinue
the
use
as
a
snow
hole
and
if
I
mean
I,
do
think
that
we
should
have
a
clearer
idea
if
these
sites
are
adequate
or
not,
because
if
they
aren't
or
we're
fooling
ourselves
hanging
on
to
them
for
that
purpose.
A
A
H
We
own
the
land
we
want,
then
why
are
we
even
entertaining
any
option
for
that
to
come
to
us,
so
I
just
think
that
one
way
or
the
other
and
I
agreed
on
maybe
what
we
need
to
do
is
is
for
2018
and
such
we'll
just
go
with
the
flow
and
if
something
comes
up
but
I
think
over
the
course
of
now
and
in
the
2018
so
before
we
sit
down
here
next
year,
I
think
we
should
have
a.
We
need
to
have
a
darn
good
idea.
H
A
J
Just
interject
a
comment
here:
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
at
all
what
you're
saying,
Mike
but
to
some
extent
aren't
we
kind
of
chasing
our
tail,
because
if
we
were
to
budget
something
for
2018
now
that
would
end
up
coming
out
of
our
unallocated
reserves,
which
is
exactly
what
we
would
end
up
doing.
If
we
didn't
budget
and
something
came
along
next
year,
what
could
a
lot
of
our
unallocated
reserve?
So
we
end
up
the
same
place
at
the
end
of
the
day.
No.
H
H
Jillian
mentioned
something
about.
If
we
want
to
know
I'm
saying,
break
some
small
portion
of
that
out
of
his
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
order.
That
number
was
move
that
forward
to
three
years,
we're
out
into
2020
I.
Think
for
that
two
and
a
half
million
right.
Maybe
we
move
two
hundred
grand
into
2019
instead
of
2020
just
to
be
safe,
we
don't
know
where
we're
gonna
be
just
to
put
it
there
for
as
a
placeholder
today,
because
we
don't
know
where
we're
gonna
be.
That's
all
I'm
saying
not.
J
H
C
K
C
L
East
somewhere
and
we
we
would
we've
gathered
some
heat
maps
and
stuff,
but
yeah
I,
like
the
thought
of
them,
and
we've
looked
at
some
spots
and
stuff
and,
and
we
sure
like
to
see
if
one
of
those
spots
would
already
be
owned
by
the
city.
You
know
that's
what
we'd
like
to
see
in
a
fit
if
it
doesn't
fit
what
we
need
and
then
you
said,
move
on
we'd
like
to
move
on.
Surely
that's
not
going
to
work,
let's
try
and
play
in
a
different
spot.
F
A
It
through
and
if
it's
not
big
enough,
you
know
maybe
look
at
adjacent
properties
to
expand
the
site
a
little
bit
if
we
have
to
or
whatever,
if
it's
an
ideal
location,
that's
more
important
than
just
having
the
money.
So
we
can
jump
on
something
that
comes
for
sale.
That's,
maybe
it's
not
really
that
perfect
right.
L
It'd
only
be
smaller,
quite
a
bit
smaller,
be
more
like
Sioux
fall,
one
of
the
Sioux
Falls
satellite
stations.
The
West
site
has
a
lot
of
specialized
equipment
in
it
and
stuff
like
that.
So
this
would
be
just
a
basic
fire
or
fire
EMS
or
just
EMS
it
would.
It
would
start
out
at
some
weight
and
grow
so
I
think
you're,
talking
that
1.5
to
2
acres
is
what
you
need
for
those
types
of
satellite
stations
so.
D
Okay
suggestions,
sir
I
know:
you've
got
some
designs
on
some
future
long-term
planning,
that's
still
fair,
to
say,
I'm
thinking
as
we
get
through
some
of
those
processes.
This
might
shake
out
of
that
so
I
guess
I
I!
Guess
after
this
discussion
it's
been
good
discussions
stick
the
way
we
current
do
it.
The
ideas
merit.
Let's
see
what
shakes
out
of
that
and
then
I
think
that
might
tell
us
which
way
to
go
and
we
made
and
I'm
doing
something
like
that.
B
Okay,
so
for
now
we'll
just
kind
of
leave
everything
as
is
and
I
think
in
2018.
If
you
guys,
you
know
that
might
be
something
you
need
to
do
is
is
to
either
say
the
city
owned
sites
will
work
or
they
will
not
work
so
that
you
know
whether
you
have
to
put
money
aside
and
how
much
in
current
year,
future
year,
I
think
that'd
be
good.
So,
let's
move
on
to
ambulance.
B
Most
of
their
technology
is
on
the
ambulance
that
comes
out
of
the
ambulance
budget.
Just
one
comment:
the
the
ambulances
are
split
out
into
two
different
line
items.
One
in
2019
is
for
a
new
unit,
the
ones
in
2021
and
2023.
The
the
plan
is
right
now
is
to
do
a
remount
for
those
two,
so
I
think
they
would
have.
They
would
buy
a
new
unit
and
then
the
next
time
it's
up.
B
And
so
that's
that's
why
there
are
lesser
amount
because
you're
not
replacing
the
chassis
on
it
and
so
I
just
thought
it
would
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
just
have
those
into
two
different,
because
we'd
never
used
to
do
remotes.
We
just
had
new
ones.
So
doesn't
anybody
have
any
other
questions?
There's
no
capital
involved
in
this,
because
that's
all
on
the
fire
side.
So
does
anybody
have
any
questions
and
also
the
ambulances,
because
that
is
an
allowable
equipment
purchase
out
of
the
second
penny?
L
So
that
would
our
ambulances
usually
run
about
a
ten
year
cycle
and
we
have
five
of
them,
so
we
replace
one
every
other
years.
What
we've
been
on
the
schedule
for
and
that's
working
out
pretty
well
right
now
and
the
next
one
that's
coming
up
in
19
would
not
be
that's
a
really
older
unit
and
would
not
be
a
remodel
unit.
L
But
we
need
a.
We
really
need
a
new
type,
one
that
the
bigger
four-wheel
drive
unit
they
work
really
well
in
town
and
the
type
threes
are
the
van,
the
van
chassis
with
the
square
box,
those
work
good
to
run
all
around
in
town
and
also
for
inter-facility
transfer.
So
on
those
five
rigs,
they'd
have
ten
years
of
new,
and
then
we
dream
out
that
box
on
a
new
chassis
and
they'd
have
another
10
years.
L
So
technically,
if
this,
if
this
plan
works
moving
forward,
we
could
save
a
lot
of
dollars
and
get
20
years
out
of
our
our
good,
strong
boxes
that
are
well
built
name.
They
go
through
them
all
the
way
and
that
put
them
on
a
new
chassis
and
the
the
chassis
czar.
Changing
all
the
time,
so
you
know
we're
using
gas
ones
right
now
and
we've
used
diesel
in
the
past.
Will
that
be
the
way
the
future
I
guess
it
that
changes
quite
fast?
But
so
far
to
this
point
that
the
remount
is
is
working
out.
E
L
They
we
figure
in
a
loaner.
They
provide
us
a
loaner
with
a
newer
type
unit.
That's
gonna
be
reliable,
so
we
use
that
an
emergency
setting
and
it
takes
about
three
to
four
months
for
them
to
do
a
remount
at
least
that's
the
current
one.
We
had
some
might
take
a
little
bit
longer,
but
worked
out
pretty
good
for
those
part
chief.
C
L
You
can't
bring
forward
into
the
new
rig
because
it's
from
a
different
manufacturers,
so
some
of
your
solid-state
equipment
has
to
get
simplified
because
they
can't
they
can't
reuse
that
equipment.
So
that's
really
the
only
thing
we
have
found
so
far,
but
I
mean
the
price
tag
is
definitely
worth
continuing
to
pursue
this
and
make,
and
if
it's,
if
it
doesn't
work,
it
doesn't,
but
it
sure
seems
like
it's:
it's
gonna
work,
just
fine
yeah.
B
They
have
a
lot
of
equipment
and
it
comes
at
a
pretty
good
price
tag,
so
we
try
really
hard
to
not
have
a
year
where
you've
got
$700,000
another
year.
We
have
to
try
to
really
even
it
out
so
we're
kind
of
consistent,
and
some
of
this
was
moved
around
a
little
bit,
because
that
loader
and
tractor
with
more
was
cut
out
of
the
2018
budget,
and
so
it
was
put
back
into
2019,
and
so
some
of
this
shifted
around
just
a
little
bit.
B
Does
anybody
have
any
questions?
The
the
snow
removal
stuff
is
on
a
different.
We
started
kind
of
tracking
this
stuff
that
we
purchase
because
we
do
snow
removal
in
the
snow
removal
department.
It
kind
of
helps
to
see
what
the
overall
cost
of
removing
snow
is
versus,
whether
we
just
contract
the
whole
thing
out.
So
there
is
some
other
pieces
of
equipment
there
as
well,
but
does
anybody
have
any
questions?
B
Knowing
with
that
end,
game
plan
is
with
with
Lake
area,
and
you
know
I
guess
what
your
guys's
feelings
are.
It's
the
same
amount
as
what
was
in
there
last
year.
It
just
moved
up
a
year,
so
I
know
we've
already
kind
of
talked
about
that
in
that
long-term
plan
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
you
guys
are
gonna
want
to
look
at.
Is
there
another
suitable
location
is
at
a
location
that
the
city
owns?
B
Is
it
something
that
you
would
want
to
pursue,
regardless
of
what
Lake
area
determines
to
do
with
their
expansion
plan?
You
know
I,
guess
you'd
want
to
come
up
with
a
purpose
for
why
you're
gonna
spend
that
money.
Is
it
just
because
somebody
else
wants
to
move
into
your
space
or
is
it
because
it
it's
a
better
fit
for
the
street
citywide,
you
know
whatever,
so
it
it's
it's
in
there
it's
in
2021.
H
K
K
D
K
Right
now
we
we'd
like
to
have
one
thing
that
we
notices.
We
have
no
place
to
really
stockpile.
We
do
have
a
small
stockpile
of
our
chips
that
we
keep
there.
We
try
to
stockpile
some
stuff
there.
It's
just
not
a
lot
of
room
for
that.
The
other
thing
too,
is
we
have
a
lot
of
equipment
that
sits
outside
and
we
do
store
equipment
out
at
the
airport
in
the
stone
hangar.
So
we
that's.
The
thing
is
not
enough
of
our
equipments
indoors.
The.
D
K
Know
we
we
generally
try
to.
During
the
school
year
we
try
to
roll
out
and
go
out
to
the
highway
to
the
west
instead
of
going
east
and
going
by
the
school
but
yeah
certain
times
a
day.
It
is
a
problem
when
we
have
equipment
coming
in
and
out
schools
get
now
the
guys
really
actually
try
to
avoid
coming
back
to
the
shop.
Just
for
that
reason.
K
The
the
two
main
buildings
were
built
in
the
fifties:
they're
uninsulated,
they're,
brick,
buildings
and
heating-
is
expensive.
We
we
just
don't
have
enough
room
for
the
melting,
the
equipment
off
in
the
winter.
We
try
to
get
them
indoors,
get
them
warmed
up,
thaw
him
out
the
the
cold
storage
trucks
truck
shed.
We
just
plug
the
trucks
in
every
night,
but
we
still
do
have
issues
with
at
times
getting
truck
started
even
with
them
plugged
in
so,
and
it
does
help
when
you
get
them
in
a
warm
shop.
K
Just
a
thought
you
go
in
the
morning.
You
fire
up
quicker
and
you
can
go
instead
of
having
to
wait
so
long
for
stuff
to
warm
up.
So
you
can
have
in
the
wintertime.
We
can
warm
equipment
up
for
a
half
hour
before
we
dare
move
it.
So
when
it's
in
the
shop,
we
can
go
a
lot
quicker
within
a
couple
minutes
or
less
so
Rob.
K
Currently,
five-date
acres
would
be
nice
if
we
had
ten
we'd
have
plenty
of
space
for
stockpiles
of
materials
building
wise
when
I
originally
worked.
These
numbers
out
I
had
about
20,000
square
feet.
If
I
recall
correctly
for
a
building
which
actually
would
probably
be
on
the
very
small
side,
we
won't
necessarily
need
all
the
20,000
square
feet
if
we
had
that
heated.
K
That
would
be
great
if
we
had
another
I,
don't
even
know
how
much
maybe
10,000
square
feet
of
cold
storage,
where
we
could
still
keep
things
indoors
that
you
don't
have
to
have
warm
in
the
winter
or
you
know
where
it's
under
a
roof
right
now,
I
mean
if
you
go
by
the
street
department
or
you
drove
through
there.
You'd
see
we
have
probably
I
guess
10
to
15
pieces
of
equipment
outside,
and
you
end
up
with
Sun
rot
to
you
know
which
yeah,
maybe
that's
not
the
biggest
thing,
but
I,
don't
I.
D
Just
took
another
comma
when
I,
when
I
went
at
Oh
dark
thirty
once
and
we're
with
the
crew
and
I
jumped
in
with
Jeff
Riley,
it's
a
race
yeah.
That's
one
thing:
I
learned
about
that
as
you
watch
him
go
when
they're
moving
snow,
it's
an
absolute
race
to
get
them,
get
it
done.
If
we
keep
adding
streets
and
then
when
you
have
to
go
back
because
cars
are
in
the
way
you
know
so,
I
just
I
just
would
add
that
commentary.
It's
a
it's
a
race
to
get
it
done.
K
O
K
Ago
and
how
I
got
that
actually
got
ahold
of
great
construction
who
had
just
that
year
constructed
a
new
deal
T
facility
in
Clear,
Lake
and
I've
toured
that
facility.
It's
very
much
like
what
we
would
like
to
have
for
our
equipment
to
be
stored
in
plus
it
had
office
space
inside
and
I
did
check,
with
the
director
of
equalization
to
figure
out
what
land
costs
would
be
roughly
in
different
areas,
and
I
did
average
that
out
to
come
up
with
that
number.
K
So
I
think
we
came
up
with
like
a
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
a
square
foot
I
believe,
but
the
difference
was
the
d-o-t
in
Clear
Lake
did
put
in
field
tanks
which
we
would
not
have.
Those
would
not
have
a
need
for
those
or
cost
at
least
if
we
would
have
done
it.
A
couple
years
ago
would
have
been
cheaper
per
square
foot
than
$160.
K
H
Can
I
suggest
on
this
one
that,
let's
just
leave
it
as
it
is
and
again
I
think
what
our
action
item
on
it
has
to
be
is
we
need
to
have
conversation
with
LHI
to
find
out
what
there
is
this
an
interest
that
they
have,
or
we
have
no
idea
right
now,
I
think
we
need
to
before
we
do
anything.
We
need
to
know
that
so
I
think
and
as
an
action
item,
certainly
before
the
next
budget
year.
That's
something
we
need
to
know
exactly
where
we
sit
with
that.
You.
K
Know
back
when
that
when
that
all
came
up,
it
seemed
like
more
of
a
push
back
then
Steve
and
I.
Think
Randy
and
myself
Steve
wanted
to
go.
Look
at
some
facilities.
He
had
talked
about
the
West
212
facility,
the
old
I
think
Spivak.
Had
it
it's
old
now.
Actually
Watertown
development
company
had
it
for
a
while.
Now
it
just
got
sold
its
trailer
place
out
there.
K
B
B
B
If
you
notice,
we
did
just
take
and
spread
out
the
dump
trucks
I
think
overall,
we
removed
one
from
the
five-year
rotation
and
just
kind
of
spread
them
out
so
that
we
didn't
have
such
a
hard
hit,
because
that's
just
not
something
that
can
be
sustained,
even
in
a
good
sales
tax
year
to
buy
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
equipment
in
just
one
one
department.
So
it's
just
always
better
to
kind
of
spread
that
spread
that
out.
So
does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
that?
How.
K
K
J
Don't
have
a
question:
I
have
a
comment:
I
had
the
opportunity
to
sit
in
yesterday
afternoon.
Obviously
you
really
arrived
and
the
Mayor
was
there
and
a
few
other
Street
Department
people
listening
to
the
street
superintendent
from
Sioux
Falls,
Galen
Huber
and
one
of
his
key
people
came
along
to
talking
about
their
snow
removal
plan
down
there,
and
that
was
a
very
impressive
and
I
thought.
I'd
be
just
a
you
know,
wouldn't
get
my
child
was
very
informative
and
they've
got
some
good
tips
out
of
it
and
pretty
pretty
impressive
operation
down
there.
Yeah.
K
G
B
B
It
seemed
to
be
the
poster
child
for
everyone,
9
1,
2
3,
not
yet
okay,
that
goes
as
a
Park
and
Rec.
So
these
two
are
funded
in
the
general
fund
with
cemetery
just
their
kind
of
the
basic
equipment
replacement
under
their
capital
improvement.
They
do
have
some
money
in
to
rebuild
repair
roads
and
then
in
2021
to
do
a
different
office.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
or
do
you
want
jr.
Terry
to
come
up
and
talk
about
any
of
the
Capitol
items?
I.
J
Just
have
a
comment:
we've
got
a
very
well-maintained
Cemetery,
but
I
have
occasional,
once
or
twice
year
to
stick
my
head
at
the
office
to
find
out
where
somebody's
buried
and
that
office
is
in
sad
shape
out
there.
It
reflects
very
poorly
for
us
as
a
as
a
community
that
why
I'd
like
to
see
this
this
go
through
when
the
time
come,
because
we
need
it.
I.
C
B
If
there's
no
other
questions,
we
can
move
on
to
animal
control,
and
there
really
is.
If
this
is
a
department,
you
want
to
pick
on
Dan.
You
can
go
ahead
and
pick
on
this
one
right
here,
yeah
yeah,
so
it
basically
just
the
Taser
and
it
is
a
replacement
because
I
was
told
he
already
has
one
correct
yep,
so
we're
not
giving
him
anything
new.
B
This
is
this
is
replacing
and
there
was
I
believe
a
computer
that
was
in
29
or
20
19,
I
believe
and
that's
getting
replaced
because
it
broke
sooner
than
what
was
anticipated,
and
so
that's
why
that
one
was
removed.
So
that's
really
all
they
have
in
their
department
under
forestry
in
2019
they
put
the
chipper
back.
That
was
in
2018
item
that
got
removed.
B
Something
from
another
department,
always
makes
it
a
lot
easier
on
the
tractor
with
loader.
That
one
is
in
to
replace
that
out
of
general
fund
revenues,
not
sure
if
there
just
isn't
enough
of
those
around
or
if
they're,
not
in
good
enough
shape.
But
if
you
look
at
the
revenue
sources
there
they're
coming
from
two
separate
and
then
under
the
capital,
that's
the
boulevard,
trees
that
that
they'll
plant
and
replace
and
sell
you'll
sell
some
to
people
right
at
cost,
and
then
you
use
them
also
to
replace
some
of
some
of
ours
in
the
parks.
B
Q
H
Q
B
P
Yes,
generally
close
to
using
the
$15,000,
normally
the
spring
order
which
we're
putting
together
right
now
and
would
like
to
get
some
quotes
back
yet
in
September.
That's
for
270
trees
normally,
and
it's
in
that
$11,000
range
that
we
pay
and
then
you
know
we
still
have
a
little
left
over
then,
and
we
can
do
some
fall
plantings
on
some
trees
too.
So
there's
funds
available
to
do
that.
Gee.
P
That
point
you
know,
but
probably
the
bigger
dollar
need,
will
be
the
urgent
removal
of
the
green
ash
that
are
affected
because
once
it
hits
and
we
identify
those
trees.
We
got
about
two
to
three
year
window
that
they'll
have
to
come
down
because
they
become
very
brittle
and
hazardous
from
the
research
that
I've
done.
P
P
Exactly
and
where
we
are
working
on
that
just
at
our
staff
meeting
Tuesday
and
then
our
Park
and
Rec
board
meeting
last
Park
and
Rec
board
meeting
that
was
on
the
agenda
to
to
just
determine
where
that
location
that
ideal
location
may
be,
and
we
haven't
determined
that
yet
work
tentatively
right
now.
Looking
at
some
areas,
you
know
probably
out
in
the
Derby
Downs
area
and
in
the
cattle
crossing
Golf
Course
area,
probably
on
some
of
Todd's
land
and
the
airport
property,
we'll.
E
P
You
know
we're
not
replacing
you
know,
we
are
replacing,
basically
what
jr.
and
the
forestry
department
are
doing.
If,
like
we
got
gnashing
the
Boulevard
and
somebody
calls
and
complaints
about
it,
ashes,
aren't
question
they're
just
cut
off
at
ground
level,
and
you
know
but
yeah.
We
have
an
awful
lot
of
ash
in
the
community
and
it
would
be
something
else.
City
Park
would
look
like
a
desert
because
it's
all
ash
out
there.
H
J
C
P
A
larger
loader
tractor
that
you
would
see
working
with
the
tree
removal
project
and
the
reason
we
didn't
want
to
used
one
there.
You
know
we're
dealing
with
a
lot
of
heavy
heavy
logs
and
kinda
clumsy.
So
we
want
a
pretty
good
piece
of
equipment
and
that's
pretty
safe
and
secure
the
dump
trucks.
If
we
can
get
them
through
Rob,
that's
that's.
We
can
repurpose
them.
That's
great
yeah.
H
H
H
B
G
B
On
the
technology,
if
you
look
the
fines
fund,
which
is
that
fun
two
to
six-
that's
used
for
the
technology
purchases
and
then
under
the
other
I'm
there's
a
replacement
of
ten
chairs
in
in
a
kind
of
a
boardroom,
community
room,
meeting
room
and
then
the
materials
budget.
The
only
change
that
was
made
is
there's
a
there's,
a
three-year
our
three
percent
increase
per
year
for
an
inflationary
cost
on
the
materials
budget,
and
we
just
because
the
2018
number
was
changed.
B
R
R
Replacement
is
kind
of
on
my
timeline,
but
with
the
current
schedule
of
the
budget
and
the
process,
I,
don't
think
I
could
bring
that
up
with
solid
numbers
until
next
year.
So
that's
something
we'd
probably
see
in
the
future.
We
also
would
like
to
try
to
get
some
professional
cleaning
done
see
if
that
will
help
with
that
before
launching
into
an
investment
of
new
flooring,
because
at
this
point
we
haven't
done
that
have.
C
R
That
is
something
we're
considering.
The
concerns
with
that
are
surfaces
are
expensive
and
slipping
in
the
winter,
and
because
we
have
a
lot
of
open
hours,
we'd
have
a
lot
of
librarians
mopping
and
then
there
are
also
noise
concerns
with
hard
surfaces
in
libraries.
So
it's
it's
not
that
we
wouldn't
consider
it
it's
just
that's
what
we've
already
been
thinking
of
at
this
time
and
then
another
option
was
carpet
tiles,
so
those
replaced.
C
A
P
H
B
Yeah
I
apologize
I'm,
not
not
feeling
the
best,
so
don't
expect
complicated
answers
from
me
all
right,
we're
going
with
Park
and
Rec
and
we'll
start
with
supervision
again,
just
it's.
Basically,
the
admin
staff,
just
computers,
copiers
printers
when
they're
needed
and
that's
all
taken
care
of
by
Spencer.
B
Again,
they
have
some
equipment
that
they
routinely
replace
some
every
year,
some
every
two
years
the
hockey
equipment
got
moved
around
just
a
little
bit.
It
got
bumped
out
of
2018,
and
so
it
got
moved
into
2019,
and
then
they
just
moved
the
other
two
to
coincide
with
every
other
year.
The
indoor
shuffleboard
court
that
also
got
taken
out
of
2018
and
moved
into
2019
on
the
capital
portion
of
it.
They
have
and
I'll
probably
just
have
I'm,
either
Terry
or
J.
Whoever
knows
I'm
just
talk
about
the
pumptrack,
then
Flavel
theater
climbing
wall.
B
N
Okay,
I
think
Shelley
pumptrack
is
it's
strictly.
You
know
we're
looking
at
two
locations
right
now,
one
with
the
new
skate
park,
we're
considering
adding
on
a
expansion
of
a
pumptrack
which
would
be
to
the
east
culture
to
cut
complex,
those
that
not
familiar
with
the
pumptrack.
It's
a
new
trend
in
recreation.
Its
pedal
is
biking.
You
use
momentum
up
and
down
different
hills.
The
thirty
thousand
would
be
for
a
dirt
track.
Obviously
that
would
not
do
a
concrete
track,
but
very
huge
popular
now
going
from
the
west
coast.
N
East
Coast
we're
finally
getting
it
here,
just
a
very
huge
trend
and
recreation.
The
current
skate
park
you'll
will
probably
work
as
a
pump
track
currently,
but
it's
not
the
size
or
length
that
typically
you'll
see
I,
don't
know
if
you've
heard
of
the
word
or
Strider
bikes
there,
it's
an
adult
Strider.
Basically
it's
it's
an
exercise.
N
This
momentum,
it's
up
and
down
curves
majority
of
our
communities
around
us
from
Brookings
rapid
Aberdeen
all
have
pump
tracks
we're
kind
of
late
to
the
late
to
the
show,
but
that
would
be
the
second
location
really
is
not
known
at
this
point.
But
we
think
would
be
a
great
asset
at
the
new
skatepark
I
know
Jay.
If
you
want
to
jump
in
on
that,
just.
P
N
Of
on
my
way
here
on
my
way
here,
I
kind
of
I
counted
ten
cars
in
the
parking
lot,
so
the
fence
is
down.
Therefore,
it's
open,
but
we
are
gonna,
have
some
signage
put
up
all
over
to
finish
in
the
construction.
Todd
Walker
from
the
golf
course
agreed
to
do
that
the
dirt
work
with
the
bobcat
I'm,
just
because
he's
excellent
on
that
piece
machinery.
So
we
hope
to
have
the
final
grading
done
seated
here
in
the
next
seven
to
ten
days,
Rob's
gonna
bring
in
some
black
dirt.
N
Okay,
so
we
did
it
communicate
on
one
thing
today
so
but
know
that
that
is
done.
It
looks
like
it's
open
and
not
much.
We
can
do
moffat,
it's
ready
to
go
it's
just.
We
don't
want
dirt
and
mud
rock
being
brought
in
from
from
the
foot
traffic,
but
the
with
the
rough
construction
left
over
any
question
on
the
pumptrack
I
know
it's
probably
nude
for
a
lot
of
people
to
hear
that
term,
but
definitely
a
trend
moving.
J
N
You
know
we
we
originally
in
our
in
our
design
meetings.
It
was
but
financially
when
we
looked
at
the
dollars
available
and
what
that
extra
expense
was
to
include
a
pump
track.
We
just
feasibly
could
not
do
it
because
most
pump
tracks
you
see
now
are
dirt.
You
know
we're.
Obviously
this
skatepark
need
to
be
concrete
and
that's
where
your
huge
cost
are
incurred,
not
saying
you
can't
phase
it
out.
Phase
2,
you
phase,
3
turn
that
dirt
into
concrete,
but
all
we're
looking
right
now
is
to
shape.
N
You
know
it's
almost
like
a
BMX
track,
but
it's
got
enough
high
points,
low
points
for
momentum
just
keeps
you
going
around
so,
but
it
was
discussed
as
part
of
the
original
and
when
we
found
out
how
many
dollars
we
had
available
and
just
a
cost
of
the
skatepark
we
built.
If
you
remember
a
couple
of
months
ago,
at
the
council
level,
you
know
we
had
a
discussion.
We
had
a
decision
to
make
whether
we
could
we
could
afford
it
as
as
design,
so
that's
kind
of
where
that's
at
any
other
questions.
N
I'm
pumptrack,
if
not
moving
on
to
the
next
item,
that
inflatable
theater
20,000,
that's
been
in
the
budget,
probably
1012
years
and
keeps
getting
moved
back
and
what
that
is,
it's
a
substitute
for
the
old
outdoor
movie
theaters.
The
difference
is
this:
is
air
inflated.
It
has
an
FM
modulator,
so
you
pull
up
weather
weather
with
your
headphones,
their
car.
You
turn
it
to
a
certain
radio
station.
You
get
the
sound
of
the
movie
they're
Big
Sioux
Falls
dozen
to
three
times
a
week
in
a
different
Park
or
they'll
play
a
movie.
N
You
know
you
pull
it
in
a
car.
You
pull
in
with
your
headphones,
put
a
blanket
down
and
you
get
an
outdoor
movie
theater
and
that's
what
an
inflatable
theater
would
be.
Like
I
said,
it's
been
pushed
back,
I
think
this
was
early
2000s,
that
this
concept
came
about.
We
just
kept
pushing
them
back,
dude
due
to
budget
constraints,
so
next
one
be
a
climbing
wall
30,000.
This
was
actually
said,
I
believe
in
18
that
just
moved
forward
through
the
process.
The
reason
we
keep
pushing
this
back
is
really
we
do
not
have
a
location.
N
We
do
see
the
need,
but
this
was
a
standalone.
This
wasn't
a
wall
type.
This
was
a
separate
tower.
If
you
ever
been
like
brookings
well
in
the
center
you'll
see
they
have
standalone
rock
towers.
That's
what
this
was.
We
didn't
design
it
into
the
new
Wellness
Center.
The
auditorium
obviously
is
up
in
the
air.
You
know,
we
don't
know
the
long
term,
the
field
house,
you
know
we
don't
have
the
space,
the
turf
too
valuable
for
everything
else.
N
B
B
I
know
that's
been
talked
about
for
a
few
years
now,
some
money
in
to
maybe
do
a
redesign
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
end,
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
is,
you
guys
could
maybe
speak
more
and
then
the
maintenance
shop
I
know
that's,
but
in
the
long
term
and
has
moved
the
the
extent
of
the
project
and
how
much
of
it
in
the
amount.
So
you
just
want
to
go
through
quick
what
those
course
renovations
are
in
those
three
years
and
then,
when
you
say
campus
remodel.
B
N
The
hundred
fifty
one
hundred
fifty
thousand
nineteen
and
twenty
is
primary
focus
on
all
bunker
replacement,
they're
old
they're
they're
not
lined.
Therefore
the
the
sand
cannot
withhold
the
edging
it
drops
down.
The
sameness
in
those
is
not
really
designed
golf
bunker
sand,
it's
kind
of
a
secondary,
it's
just,
not
the
right
product
for
that
those
were
in
seven
or
sixteen
to
seventeen.
We
moving
them
back
in
eighteen.
We
focus
on
two
greens,
but
those
250,000
would
view
the
27
holes
worth
of
bunkers.
N
I,
don't
have
a
number,
how
many
we
have
to
do,
but
that
was
even
part
of
the
vision
committee
that
we
had
for
for
six
months.
That
came
up
is
that
a
priority
20:21,
the
350,000?
That
would
be
primarily
in
the
blue
course
the
blue
course.
We
still
have
three
push
up
greens.
What's
your
original
to
the
course
so
we're
talking
80
years,
the
play
is
so
much
different
than
the
new
modern
greens,
the
PGA
greens
we
put
in
if
you're
familiar
to
golf
course
that
would
be
blue.
N
That
would
be
have
to
be
cored
out,
so
there
would
be
those
three
greens,
in
addition
to
other
just
modifications,
short-term
smaller
projects
on
blue
that
we've
identified
through
the
vision
committee.
That's
where
you'll
see
that
that
jump
in
that
mount
from
the
traditional
150
up
to
350,
then
the
45,
the
campus
remodel,
discussed.
It's
not
engineering.
N
If
we
were
able
to
close
that
road,
if
every
is
familiar
with
what
we're
referring
to
there's
the
road
that
goes
between
cars,
storage
and
the
clubhouse,
what
our
preference
would
be
for
safety
and
functionality
would
be
to
close
that
road
off
loop,
that
traffic
back
around
on
the
back
side
of
the
car
storage
but
which
Golf
Course
Road
actually
goes
on.
There's
already
an
established
road
there,
but
we
would
do,
is
close
off
and
create
the
campus
would
become
a
new
parking
lot.
N
H
Can
I
make
a
suggestion
this
this
thing
has
been
talked
about
for
many
many
years
and
probably
more
so,
the
last
two
or
three
years
I
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
lay
that
out
and
we
need
to
get
some
public
input
out
there
for
those
people
that
are
on
what
is
it
South,
Lake
Drive.
You
still
get
their
input.
H
It's
like
I
said
that
gets
asked
actually
every
well
every
summer
people
ask
you
about
it.
Ask
you
about
it.
I
think
we
need
to
get
some
detail
to
it
a
little
bit
and
not
that
we
have
to.
We
don't
have
to
go
hire
an
architect.
We
got
the
people
that
can
do
that.
We
didn't
do
some
public
input
with
those
people
that
live
along
there.
That's.
N
N
That's
definitely,
you
know
the
pushback
I
won't
call
it
pushback
when
this
was
brought
up.
Like
you
said,
it's
been
brought
up
multiple
times,
I
remember
the
last
time
it
was
pursued
very
seriously.
You
know
there
was
some
concerns
by
those
homeowners
on
South
Lake
Drive
about
that
you
know.
Definitely
gonna
expand
your
traffic
flow
in
front
of
your
residents.
You
know
we
can
work
with
Shane.
You
know
to
look
at
how
but
I
mean
it's
an
established
road.
It
meets
all
the
regulations,
it's
not
like
we're
taking
it
on
a
private
private
road.
N
H
Might
be
able
to
do
on
that
is
where
the
current
road
is
that
goes
by
them.
We
might
give
them
some
space
there,
where
our
road
goes
and
that
what
might
help
appease
that,
but
I
would
say
we
kind
of
need
to
get
a
plan
together
because,
like
I
said
it's
been
talked
about
and
you
can
draw
it
on
a
napkin,
but
we
can.
We
need
to
get
really
the
Devils
in
the
details
to
where
we
go
on
that.
Well,.
J
I
I,
second,
that
I
go
through
there
at
least
twice
every
day.
In
fact,
it's
even
at
the
point
now
I'll
loop
around
that
to
avoid
that,
because
it's
congested
it's
dangerous,
you
know
it's
it's
15
mile
an
hour.
Speed
limit,
but
I
know
good
in
a
way
I'm
there
in
their
speed
bumps
in
there,
but
there's
still
people
cruising
through
there
more
than
15
miles.
Now
you
had
kids
out
there.
N
Talking
with
Todd,
what
that
would
be
would
be
an
extension
to
the
current
shop
that
we
built
ten
to
twelve
years
ago.
Just
equipment,
storage
space-
you
know
we're
maxed
out,
so
this
would
be
in
addition
to
the
existing
the
existing
shop,
which
it
would
be
heated
storage.
It
would
be
part
of
the
current
shop.
It
won't
be
anything
just
it
wouldn't
be.
A
separate
building,
they'd
be
an
add-on
just
because
we're
maxed
out
on
space.
For
you
know
as
Rob
as
Rob
alluded
to
earlier.
N
You
know
we
got
sixty
eighty
thousand
dollar
piece
of
equipment
that
right
now
we're
putting
outside
and
that
kind
of
investment.
We
would
rather
see
that
that
indoors.
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
we've
outgrown
the
space
that
shop
has
put
up
with
an
18-hole
golf
course.
We
have
27
holes
now
means
more
equipment,
different
things
like
that,
so
that
would
simply
be
in
addition
to
the
current
shop
and.
P
N
I
believe,
what
are
we,
forty
by
a
hundred
roughly
you
know
so
it'd
be
probably
I,
would
say
equivalent
to
a
fourth
of
the
building
so
40
by
60
addition,
roughly
that
40
by
40,
you
know
and
I,
don't
know
that
I
mean
I,
that's
thrown
about
there.
Adam
I
could
I'm
not
completely
sure
it's
it's.
How
far
will
the
money
go?
We
get
engineer
estimates
on
what
can
we
get
for
a
hundred
thousand
and
maximize
those
dollars?
What's.
N
Lot
of
the
old
existing
shop
is
a
lot
of
our
fertilizer
storage,
just
different
from
our
fertilisers,
grass
seed
bunker
sand
things
like
that
they're
out
in
the
original
shop.
Things
that
we
don't
want
to
tie
into
few
you
know
are
actually
our
field
things
or
our
outdoors
here,
but
it's
strictly
a
coal
storage
building,
some
piece
of
equipment
we
may
use
twice
a
year
is
out
there,
but
majority
of
it
is
our
our
fertilizers
or
seeds
or
pesticides.
That
kind
of
thing.
B
We'll
move
on
to
a
family
Aquatic
Center,
not
a
lot
just
routine,
their
computers,
they
do
deck
furniture,
they
replace
a
certain
amount
of
that
every
other
year,
tube
same
thing,
I'm,
just
normal,
wear
and
tear
on
the
long
term
capital
additional
slide.
This
has
been
in
the
long
term,
moved
around
been
requested
in
the
current
year
and
pushed
back
just
something.
That's
there
to
keep
things
you
know,
keep
people
wanting
to
come,
give
them
something
new,
give
them
another
attraction
on
this
one.
N
This
would
be
an
additional
slide
for
years
we
had
a
wave
pool
that
was
coming
closer
and
closer.
We
just
felt
we
were
completely
landlocked
and
for
an
80-day
season,
the
2.8
million
dollar
investment
was
not
what
we
wanted
to
do.
So
we,
we
did
a
survey
with
our
consumer
and
they
top
10
listed
of
what
things
they
liked
to
see
number
2
on
the
list.
Besides
the
way
a
pool
was
more
slides
to
answer
Shelly's
question.
What
this
would
be
is
potentially
it
would
be.
N
Another
story
to
our
slide
tower
would
be
an
add-on,
and
our
footings
are
structurally
sound
to
do
that,
but
it
would
not
be
an
any
type
of
new
pool.
This
is
what
they
call
speed
slide
if
you're
familiar
it's
the
ones
that
just
do
zero
gravity
straight
down
and
they
go
into
a
run
out,
they
don't
enter
into
a
pool.
You
slowly
come
to
a
stop.
You
get
out
get
off
on
the
edge,
so
that
would
be
the
case.
We
wouldn't
have
to
do
any
additional.
N
You
know,
drop
drop
down,
pools,
anything
like
that'll
be
just
tighten
or
current.
The
water
would
come
from
our
current
pool,
we
tie
in
so
it
would
be
minimal
cost,
but
to
get
the
height
for
a
speed
slide.
It
needs
to
be
about
three
stories
high.
Our
current
slide
towers.
Two
stories
so
would
either
be
for
230,000.
N
N
Two
options
we
could,
you
know,
run
along
second
Street
or
we
yeah
it
would
be
in
the
southeast,
but
the
run
out
would
either
run
along
second
back
towards
you
know:
Keefer
chiropractic
or
it
could
run
along
to
1200
in
the
fence
back
towards
Thunder
Road.
No,
they
couldn't
how
the
engineer
would
lay
it
out
so
and
then
2012
is
last
time.
We
did
a
major
innovation
and
we've
seen
at
that
point.
We
put
that
and
that
was
a
ten
water
playground
with
a
dump
get.
N
You
know
we
were
down
on
attendance
to
about
35,000
a
summer.
We
put
that
in.
We
grew
back
up
to
50,000
and
we've
seen
annually.
We
lose
about.
You
know
5,000
right
now
we're
back
to
about
that.
35,000
annual
visitors,
so
you'll
see
that
spike.
When
you
add
a
new
addition,
it's
just
important.
You
know
people
come
and
ride
the
lazy
river
so
many
times,
I
do
the
same,
slides
so
many
times
and
the
interest
level
drops.
So
you
know
we
always
said
7
to
10
years.
G
B
There's
outfield
lighting
for
foundation,
outfield
lighting
for
cook,
ball
field,
fences,
not
sure
what
ball
field
that
is
got
a
few
of
them
now
and
then
new
playground
system
at
the
premier
field
on
on
that
one
I
didn't
put
it
in,
but
it's
important
to
remember
that
any
time
there's
a
new
development
with
a
Park
and
Rec
board.
They
either
donate
land
or
they
donate
cash,
correct
and
any
time
they
give
cash
that
goes
into
a
restricted
cash
account
for
park
development.
B
P
B
Never
been
used
in
the
13
years,
I've
been
here,
but
it
is
there
and
it
is
available,
so
this
$60,000
could
be
used
with
that
restricted
cash
money
in
that
park,
development
under
the
the
Park
and
Rec
fund.
So
that
is
an
option.
If
it
comes
to
2019-
and
it
looks
like
you
know,
money
is
a
little
bit
tight.
B
That's
what
that
that
money's
been
accumulating
there
for
and
I
told
Jay,
just
kind
of
be
new,
that
that's
something
that
the
Park
and
Rec
board
really
needs
to
be
conscientious
of
is
is
to
really
promote,
maybe
getting
that
donation
so
that
the
city
can
determine
where
they
think
a
park
should
go
and
what
it
should.
Look
like
and
there's
money
available
to
do
that
when
the
city
is
ready
to
put
in
a
park
versus
saying.
Well,
this
is
land
we
really
don't
want.
P
G
P
The
lighting
projects,
they're
kind
of
placeholders
from
previous
years
we've
came
to
stretched
out
the
lighting
at
Cooke
complex,
that's
where
the
four
original
fields
built
in
the
70s
and
that's
also
where
the
fencing
comes
in
for
the
old
fields
dating
back
to
the
70s.
And
you
know
we
got
a
split
in
here
as
individual
fields
over
four
years,
but
that
could
be
a
one-year
process
because
that
might
reduce
the
costs
and
allow
for
multiple
use
of
poles
to
light
multiple
fields.
P
One
pole
could
like
be
lighting
two
fields
along
the
way,
and
most
of
these
costs
are
based
on
when
we
lighted
field
four
at
foundation,
fields
in
2016,
the
total
cost
for
that
project
was
one
hundred
and
seventy-six
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
kinda,
where
we're
basing
our
pricing
from
for
lighting
projects
Jay.
N
B
B
B
P
In
just
one
comment,
I
would
have
to
on
the
protective
flooring
that
would
actually
actually
be
new,
and
that
would
be
for
the
four
courts
at
the
prelates
Wellness
Center
that
we
would
have
a
covering
if
we
wanted
to
bring
some
gun
show
some
event
like
that.
In
that
we
would
have
protective
covering
over
the
four
courts.
H
Can
I
ask
a
question
on
the
on
the
renovation
of
the
MAS
facility
and
it
really
pertains
really
more
towards
the
proposed
ice
facility,
but
new
ice
facility,
but
is
our
desire
to
have
a
larger
Fieldhouse?
Does
that
a
motivating
factor
for
us
to
create
a
whole
new
facility
for
ice?
Does
that
make
sense
that
question
in.
H
F
N
Get
the
second
or
the
new
rink,
but
two
sheets
of
ice
was
based
on
trying
to
get
that
building
for
a
second
Fieldhouse.
It
was
after
a
discussion
of
getting
two
sheets
staff
discussions
of
what
do
we
do
with
the
current
one.
We
found
7,000
square
foot
at
that.
You
know
our
current
field,
how
the
old
armory
just
does
not
meet
the
knee
I
mean
it's
been
a
great
asset
to
the
community,
but
7,000
square
feet
versus
19.
N
As
that's
the
reason,
if
staff
we
said
if
we
do
get
the
second
Ice
Arena,
that
would
be
our
preference.
But
obviously
you
know
we
don't
know
who
makes
those
decisions
but
that
buildings
gonna
become
our
preference,
would
be
a
larger
Fieldhouse.
Just
because
we've
seen
the
seven-month
indoor
demand
for
that
facility.
Well,.
H
And
I
know
that
kind
of
come
the
question
kind
of
came
across
as
negative,
but
there's
the
flip
side
of
that
which
is
positive,
which
is
should
that
be
part
of
our
decision-making
process
for
the
new
ice
facility.
That
need
because
to
put
a
half
million
dollars
into
that
facility
and
have
it
done
and
have
that
purpose.
It's
pretty
cheap.
Overall,
it's.
H
N
The
positive
standpoint,
so
a
lot
of
standpoint
I,
would
say.
Definitely
yes,
I
mean
if
you
talk
to
you,
the
Soccer
Association,
the
Baseball
Association
private
teams,
traveling
teams
workouts
the
people
that
utilize
that
building
you
know.
We
should
have
this
thing
10
years
ago
and
7,000
square-foot,
just
our
Soccer
Association,
with
five
to
six
hundred.
You
know,
kids,
where
we're
filling
those
doors
from
3:30
p.m.
to
11:00
at
night,
seven
days
a
week
full
days,
8
a.m.
to
10
p.m.
Saturday
Sunday,
with
a
waiting
list
of
20,
more
teams
that
want
in
there.
N
For
soccer
baseball,
softball
teams,
I
mean
we've
had
cross
fitness
classes,
we
vent
dryland
training
for
figure,
skating
clubs.
It's
just
been
an
amazing
asset,
but
only
7,000
square
foot,
you
know,
doesn't
go
real
far.
I
mean
that's
a
quart
and
a
half
of
basketball.
So
I
do
think.
On
my
end,
you
know
from
within
the
department,
yeah
I'd
love
to
see
it
as
more
than
to
get
that
much
square
footage.
Terri.
N
No,
it
would
not
sit
there.
I
mean
we
like
I,
said
people
now
call
in
July
to
try
and
get
in
the
Fieldhouse
for
February,
because
they've
found
that
you
know
you
don't
call
a
week
before
exits,
it's
booked
up
and
the
only
thing
you
know
like
the
baseball
things
like
that
part
of
the
training
for
that
I'll
season.
You
know
as
long
toss
to
get
your
arm
in
shape
a
hundred
foot
length
from
wall
to
wall
you're,
not
really
getting
your
arm
in
much
shape.
N
You
know,
they're,
not
only
the
the
ice
room
annoyed
now,
yeah
at
archery.
You
had
golf
lessons.
You
had
working
with
the
school
district
on
strength,
training,
indoor
football
practices,
the
options
are
limitless.
You
know,
there's
there's
full
field
soccer
versus
playing
sideways
at
50
foot
so
but
yeah
I
would
say.
Besides
the
auditorium
before
the
Wellness
Center
was
built,
it's
by
far
our
greatest
asset
for
a
minimal
like,
like
Mike,
said
you
know,
I
think
we
put
about
150,000
in
it
transferring
or
transforming
that
from
Oh
from
an
armory
to
a
Fieldhouse.
N
N
C
B
The
first
page
just
shows
their
technology
needs
vehicles,
zoo
animals,
they
always
plan
for
zoo
animals.
Sometimes
they
can
get
loners
through
the
easy,
a
program
others
they
have
to
purchase
depending
on.
If
there's
anything
you
know,
if
there's
anything
they
can
borrow
or
whether
they
want
to
keep
it
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
The
otter
was
something
that
was
purchased
and
it
was
amazing
to
me
how
expensive
otters
are
crazy.
F
B
B
Yeah
I,
don't
know,
but
so
he
was
really
proud
of
the
fact
that
he
got
it
got
a
great
deal
which
is
great
for
the
city.
He's
must
have
connections
but
always
a
need
there.
Like
I
said.
Sometimes
it
gets
used.
Sometimes
it
doesn't,
but
it's,
but
it's
something.
That's
needed,
can't
really
have
a
zoo
if
you
don't
have
animals.
B
The
animal
care
building
is
is
in
on
2022
I
know
that
was
talked
about,
and
that
was
going
to
be
a
shop
with
an
animal
care
building.
I
know
the
shop
is
a
higher
priority
and
that
was
talked
about
in
the
2018
budget,
but
I
think
there's
still
that
need
for
an
overall
one-stop-shop
Animal
Care
Building.
B
P
The
new
maintenance
and
chat
building
that
would
allow
for
employee
parking
in
that
area,
as
well
as
some
visitor
parking.
You
know
with
the
with
the
zoo,
as
well
as
the
two
shelters
in
bramble
Park.
We
get
a
lot
of
parking
congestion
over
there,
and
this
would
allow
a
few
more
spaces
for
visitors
as
well
as
for
employees,
is.
B
C
B
They
have
picnic
tables
that
was
put
back
in.
It
was
a
item
that
was
removed
from
the
2018
budget,
along
with
loader
under
the
long
term.
Of
course,
we
have
175,000
each
year.
That's
put
in
for
the
trail.
Expansion
I
expect
that,
once
that
plan
is
done,
you
guys
contracted
with
an
engineering
firm
to
get
some
of
that
I
think
some
of
those
questions
will
be
answered
so
I'm
guessing
next
year.
B
At
this
time,
when
you're
having
these
long
term
CIP
questions
you're
going
to
have
a
whole
lot
more
information,
and
you
can
make
some
of
those
decisions
on
what
you
guys
want
to
do
to
get
that
finished,
where
your
priorities
are
because
I
do
believe,
there's
some
little
chunks
that
need
to
be
added.
There's
some
chunks
that
need
to
be
redone
replaced
so
I
think
as
you're
getting
that
done.
You're
gonna
want
to
start
coming
up
with
kind
of
a
replacement
or
a
maintenance
type
plan.
B
I
know
we
have
never
really
done
a
really
great
job
of
following
through
and
having
a
good
maintenance
program,
but
I
think
just
like
the
street
department.
I
think
you
need
to
start
investigating
into
a
really
good
maintenance
trail
program
and
start
putting
that
into
your
own
em
budget,
a
little
bit
probably
more
than
it
is
right
now,
yeah.
P
We
use
about
$13,000
a
year
right
now
and
that's
primarily
for
crack
sealing
and
that
type
of
thing
would
like
to
hopefully
get
some
quotes
for
the
area
by
the
clubhouse,
which
is
in
really
bad
shape
right
now
and
hopefully
get
that
repaired.
Yet
this
this
summer,
with
that
budget
money,
but
yeah,
we
have
a
lot
of
areas
where
we
need
to
tie
trail
together
and
then
make
some
repairs.
You.
L
B
P
B
J
B
Yeah
and
I
think
that's
come
up
in
previous
budget.
You
know,
because
you
know
this
has
been
in
here
since
I've
been
here,
and
it
was
here
a
few
years
before
I
got
here.
So
it's
just
one
of
those
things
and
$175,000
doesn't
go
very
far
anymore.
It's
a
it's
amazing.
How
expensive
trails
are
to
build,
and
so
I
know
it's
come
up.
Well,
how
much
is
it
gonna
take
to
get
this
thing
done?
Can
we
just
put
it
in
there
and
get
it
done?
B
It
just
didn't
seem
to
make
sense
until
you
actually
had
those
numbers
and
but
but
yeah
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
are
looking
at
is:
do
you
take
it
in
chunks?
Do
you
take
it
all
as
one
do
you
take
it
in
segments?
Do
ya
you
know,
and
but
those
are
at
least
you'll
have
a
little
more
information
and
somewhere
to
go.
I,
don't
know
kind
of
like
the
clubhouse
and
or
the
Golf
Course
improvements.
I,
don't
know
that.
That's
something
that
will
ever
go
away.
B
Cuz
you're
always
going
to
have
those
maintenance
issues
kind
of
like
this
trail.
There's
always
gonna,
be
parts
of
trail
that
you're
gonna
want
to
either
expand
or
you're
gonna
start
redoing,
because
they're
15
20
years
old,
so
I,
don't
know
if
it's
something
ever
gonna
get
rid
of,
but
eventually
it'd
be
nice
to
just
be
a
maintenance
line.
Item
like
the
roads
versus
constantly
trying
to
get
trails
done.
I
think.
I
Glen's
radon
no
as
far
as
getting
this
thing
done
as
soon
as
possible,
because
I
heard
another
story.
A
guy
told
me
this
week.
Truck
went
by
this
lady
was
in
the
ditch,
with
her
child,
pushing
a
stroller
of
some
kind
truck
went
by
she
pulled
back.
She
got
back
on
the
road
again
didn't
realize
this
guy
was
right
there.
He
said
by
the
grace
of
God.
I
He
could
pull
into
the
other
Lane
and
not
hit
her,
and
it's
just.
She
was
walking
in
the
ditch
because
the
truck
was
coming
at
her,
so
she's
in
the
ditch.
She
didn't
realize
the
cars
coming
behind.
He
said
he
swerved
out,
missed
the
lady
missed
the
kid:
what
would
that
have
cost
loss
of
a
life
for
two
yeah
I
just
think
we
are
really
missing
the
boat
on
that
have-not
of
that
safety
issue
out
there.
It
is
so
dangerous
and
we've
all
been
there.
We
all
know
it
and
it
is
icky.
G
P
That's
why
I'm
so
excited
that
we
got
the
study
in
place
known
over
the
next
six
months.
They're
going
to
be
doing
that
and
you
know
looking
at
all
the
alternative
routes,
you
know,
and
we
may
find
that
some
selected
route
may
be
cheaper
than
what
we
were
looking
at.
There's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
things
looked
at,
you
know
and
a
lot
of
public
input.
P
Just
a
real
brief,
the
the
Sioux
River
portion
of
that
what
that
actually
entails
is
is
more
of
a
Sioux
River
Greenway
restoration
program.
You
know
the
river
through
town
looks
that's
really
tough
and
if
we
look
at
14th,
Avenue,
North
kind
of
an
entry
area
to
the
community
and
the
river
looks
really
tough
in
there.
But
this
is
more
than
that.
P
We're
gonna
look
at
all
sorts
of
different
things.
As
far
as
even
reducing
some
of
the
mooring
responsibilities
that
we
have
I
know,
Sioux
Falls
has
been
very
successful
with
planting
native
grasses
and
then
just
mowing
out:
20
or
30
strip
area
adjacent
to
their
bike,
grill
and
really
reducing
mowing,
and
this
project
will
involve
all
those
types
of
things
and
it
will
involve
multiple
agencies,
talk
to
Roger
Foote
about
it
and
he's
excited
and
would
definitely
be
involved,
a
talk
with
game,
fish
and
parks.
P
G
B
P
Yeah
I
think
that
was
in
the
budget
previously,
but
just
to
you
know,
redo
the
parking
lots
and
we're
we
aren't
going
to
in
2018
be
able.
We've
got
some
money
in
the
budget
in
2018
to
fill
in
some
road
there
along
the
North
Loop
that
we
have
tremendous
flooding
problems
with
over
there.
So
we're
going
to
get
some
work
down
there,
but
then
just
go
through
all
the
roads
and
get
them
back
up
to
up
to
par,
so
that
our
recreational
campers
can
enjoy
the
park
out
there.
H
H
P
We're
at
in
that
2021
with
the
$70,000
we
we
put
some
designs
together,
but
you
know,
as
we
look
at
several
of
the
projects
here,
I
think
Terry
and
I
would
agree
that
really
would
like
to
discuss
that.
Probably
the
latter
time
and
further
detail
because
we're
looking
at
adding
some
campsites-
and
these
are
all
revenue
producers.
But
we
got.
We've
got
some
designs
on
how
we
can
convert
the
residents
out
there
into
a
lodge,
and
we
got
some
designs
on
how
we
can
convert
the
resident
garage
out
there
into
two
camping
cabins.
P
Plus
we
got
individual
camping
cabins
additional
pad.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things,
and
these
are
all
kind
of
neat
things,
because
their
revenue
producers
for
us
in
the
state
park
system
a
lot
like
the
size
of
the
residence
house
out.
There
would
be
at
about
$185
tonight,
right
now
and
so
I
think
we
could
do
that
or
our
greater
and
I
think
would
get
a
lot
of
use
out
there,
and
the
camping
cabins
would
get
tremendous
use
and
they're
there
in
that
30
to
40
dollar
range
per
night.
So.
P
Would
be
a
replacement
project?
This
is
based
on
estimates
of
well
one
of
the
last
ones
they
did
in
custer
state
park
in
the
state
park
system.
That's
what
this
conversation
cost
out
there,
and
this
would
be
to
replace
the
one
in
the
South
Loop
that
dates
back.
Do
you
know
how
old
that
facility
is
hold?
Probably
70s,
and
you
know
it
just-
would
be
really
nice
to
have
more
modern
and
usable
facilities
out
there.
I
F
P
Hasn't
been
in
the
last
eight
to
nine
months,
you
know:
we've
talked
about
different
locations
and
that
type
of
thing
for
a
fish-cleaning
station
too,
but
you
know
when
they
have
improved,
though
so
much
over
the
last
few
years
else
they
can.
You
gotta
came
to
be
be
cognizant
of
the
cleanliness
and
smell
associated
with
them
too,
but
the
the
new
facilities
are
much
much
better
and
really
to
be
perfectly
honest.
Previous
summers
I've
heard
about
that,
but
this
summer
I
did
have
not
had
not
one
comment
about
a
fish-cleaning
station
and.
H
P
Know
I'd
have
to
look
back
but
depending
on
where
you
have
your
utility
resources,
if
they're
closer,
if
you
have
to
plate
them
in
a
long
ways,
they
can
get
pretty
expensive.
But
what
we
were
looking
at,
that
one
I
got
some
information
on
grinders
and
I
think
they
were
like
eighty-five
thousand
dollars
for
the
grinders
themselves,
but
then
putting
the
whole
utilities
there's
a
what
is
it
a
barracuda
or
something.
D
H
Is
like
taser,
these
fish
or
something
Wow?
The
only
other
thing
I
have
heard
in
regards
to
a
comfort
station.
Is
we
don't
have
a
place
that
I'm
aware
of
in
town
that
people
can
go
and
just
use
it
the
comfort
station
outside
of
the
park
right?
So
you
have
to
drive
in
there
in
order
to
use
that
right
right
as
there
ever
been
a
thought.
Are
you.
D
H
P
N
And
we
do
need
one
in
regards
to
comment
duck,
taking
our
manager
out
there.
Here's
multiple
frustration
from
paid
campers
Sunday.
They
want
to
leave,
they
can't
get
to
our
dump
station
because
people
are
coming
off,
North,
Lake,
Drive
or
so
you
know,
South
Lake
Drive,
coming
from
a
complete
different
campground
pull
into
our
dump
station,
you
know
and
not
that
we
have
any
way
to
stop
them,
but
Doug
does
get
frustrations
from
registered
campers
that
they've
got
a
set
number
10
in
line
to
get
to
our
dump
station.
When
they
see
him
pull
off.
N
H
N
Know
it
you
know,
I,
think
that's
what
we're
referring
to
is
really
master
planning
out
City
Park,
instead
of
this
year.
Putting
a
you
know
a
camping,
camping
here,
because
this
year
looks
good
next
year.
Let's
go
across
here
just
to
get
a
comprehensive
plan
that
includes
may
be
part
of
the
remodel
of
that
residence
has
a
part
of
a
fish
cleaning
station.
Maybe
there's
a
small
convenience
store
versus
a
lodge.
You
know,
there's
so
many
different
aspects.
We
can
look
at
those
properties
for
would.
H
P
Know
just
has
nothing
if
you
had
room
like
that,
you
could
certainly
do
a
much
better
job
that
you
could
get
double-sided
and
multiple
dump
stations
at
campers.
Just
could
just
come
in
and
out
of
there
I
was
over
the
weekend,
had
a
chance
to
drive
through
vermillion
recreation
area,
one
of
the
newer
state
parks
and
they're
dump
station.
It
must
be
a
football
field
on
and
they
got
four
sites
where
people
can
dump
and
I
mean
people
can
just
get
in
and
out
of
there
really
nicely.
F
N
P
And
that's
the
thing
with
its
congested
as
we
are
at
City
Park.
It
might
be
difficult
to
find
that
location
within
the
park
itself.
So
if
we
could
find
something
jacent
that
would
accommodate
not
only
city
park,
campers
but
other
campers
that
are
using
the
highways
that
come
in
in
that
order.
Count
do.
N
Talked
about
charging
for
non
camper,
non
roaster
camper!
You
know
it
would
be
a
complete
trust
system.
You
know
the
metal
box
that
says
non
campers
X
number
of
dollars.
You
know
it
doesn't
pay
for
us
to
staff
it.
You
know.
It'll
cost
the
city
more
money
than
we're
gonna
gain.
Probably.
But
but
that's
been
a
discussion
point
to
just
say
you
know
non
registered
campers,
it's
a
five
dollar
dumphy
or
whatever
it
may
be,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
self-serve
put
your
money
in
the
box,
but
you
may
collect
fifty
percent.
N
You
know
you
don't
know,
but
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
this
community
that
camp
and
not
all
at
City
Park,
but
it
sure
seems
like
we
get
the
the
bulk
of
the
dump
station
so
and
we
do
have
you
know
the
six
full-service
now
that
I'll
have
we'll
call
them
dump
stations
for
themselves.
So
it's
not
a
difficult.
If
we're
once
we
find
the
main
sewer
line
you
know
tapping
into
it,
isn't
difficult
I,
don't
think
we're
talking
a
large
dollar
amount
here.
G
B
B
Its
it
gets
to
be
a
long
night.
I
know
that
we
have
at
the
end,
we
have
sewer
solid
waste
airport.
They
are
three
enterprise
funds.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
a
whole
lot
of
questions
for
them,
but
basically
the
airport
they're
CIP
matches
what
the
federal
government
says
is
on
their
five-year
plan,
and
so
there
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
wiggle
room
and
it's
really
dictated-
and
this
was
updated
based
on
that
update
and
that's
why
the
2018
changed,
and
they
did
make
some
changes
which
I
put
in
there.
B
The
sewer
and
the
solid
waste
a
charge,
user
fees
that
are
supposed
to
take
care
of
operations
and
any
capital
needs,
and
they
have
always
done
that
they're,
not
subsidized
by
anything
other
than
user
fees.
Mike
does
a
really
good
job
of
of
keeping
these
things
moving
forward.
He
assesses
his
needs
for
his
equipment
in
his
capital.
We
usually
will
do
a
three-year
cash
flow.
B
To
make
sure
we're
probably
gonna
need
to
do
one
once
this
land
purchase
goes
through
just
to
see,
if
there's
any
any
change
in
that,
because
that
will
be
some
fund
balance
that
will
have
to
be
used
to
do
that.
Land
purchase
not
anticipated,
but
we
usually
do
a
three-year
cash
flow.
Just
to
make
sure
that
that
we
don't
need
to
readjust
and
user
fees.
B
Does
anybody
have
any
you
know
burning
questions
that
they
want
to
talk
about
on
the
long-term
CIP
for
at
least
the
enterprise
funds?
Just
I
mean
they're
kind
of
a
little
bit
different
than
all
of
our
other
funds,
not
really
dependent
on
sales,
tax
dollars
and
they're
they're,
really
driven
by
those
user
fees
and
by
the
needs
to
get
those
services
out
et
Aragon
EPA
standards,
but
just
there's
a
lot
of
federal
guidelines
that
they
have
to
go
by.
So
does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
those
three
funds?
B
I
B
The
one
big
thing
you're
going
to
want
to
talk
about
is
that
phosphorus
removal
facility
upgrade
I,
don't
know
how
much
discussion
you
want
to
have
on
that.
Whether
that's
something
I
know
it
was
in
the
19
and
20
budget.
It
was
recommended
to
be
pushed
back
to
20
to
23
I.
Think
it's
something
that's
always
been
talked
about,
but
it's
never
been
anything
in
the
long-term
budget
itself.
B
So
now
there's
a
number
in
there
and
there's
a
year
and
so
I'm
not
sure
if
you
want
to
give
that
some
consideration
or
discussion
or
whether
you're
you're
not
looking
like
I
the
prey,
Lakes
Wellness
Center,
it's
basically
equipment
and
technology,
I,
don't
think
there's
much.
We
need
to
say
about
that.
One.
Exactly.
B
Yep
and
that's
that's
basically,
what
he's
always
had
in
his
budget
is
equipment
I'm,
the
the
building
is
relatively
new
yet
so
he
did
not
have
anything
for
building
wise
911
is
also
one:
that's
mostly
technology
driven
and
not
much
on
there.
So
it
really
comes
down
to
do
you
want
to
talk
about
that
phosphorus
building
and
then
the
fun
212
that
those
are
really
the
two
that
we
have
left
so.
B
H
B
J
I,
don't
want
to
give
the
212
I
don't
want
to
shortchange
that
discussion.
Do
you
have
any
sense,
our
mayor?
What
are
I
don't
want
to
spend
another
night
on
this
either
and
what
we're
all
tired
of
long
meetings?
You
have
any
sense
of
what
the
agenda
in,
because
there's
no
time
crunch
as
far
as
getting
this
job
done,
what
I
want
what
I'm
suggesting
is.
If
we
compare
back
the
agenda
for
the
meeting
into
wait.
Q
B
Q
This
is
the
project
we've
been
talking
about
for
well
over
a
couple
of
years.
I
think
the
last
time
I
was
to
the
council
was
February
March
I
believe
when
I
brought
the
proposal
from
clear,
as
forward
we've,
looked
at
multiple
different
ways
of
in
lake
treatment
to
remove
the
nutrients
that
are
in
the
lake
or
to
it
at
least,
keep
ahead
of.
What's
coming
in
this
is
the
number
I
I
truly
believe
that
this
is
the
best
way
to
handle
this.
Q
This
situation,
the
lake
quality,
has
gotten
better
over
the
last
three
years
and
getting
lots
of
comments
on
how
nice
and
clear
it
is.
There
have
been
some
algae
blooms.
Some
some
weed
issues,
I
I,
do
believe
I
heard
Chuck
Langer
tell
someone
that
they
could
dump
roundup
in
the
water
once
on
the
Garden,
Show
I
did
call
and
correct
him,
but
I
do
believe
that
that
this
is
basically
a
function
of
the
the
smaller
amounts
of
runoff
from
the
watershed
that
we've
had
over
the
last
three
years.
Q
Q
H
Q
Q
We've
had
experts
from
NDSU
from
SDSU
the
clear
as
people
themselves,
there's
there's
literature
that
we've
looked
at
scientific
studies
that
we've
looked
at.
They
all
nothing
says
that
it
won't
work.
Even
the
studies
that
I've
done
over
the
last
three
years
at
the
plant,
the
the
it
functions
it
does
work.
We
just
need
to
ramp
it
up
to
an
industrial
scale.
I,
don't
know
how
else
I
can
so.
Q
Q
Q
600
pounds
times
500,
he
has
a
whole
lot
of
algae
that
that
will
not
grow.
We
will
return
to
balance
back
to
the
lake,
a
balance
of
nutrients
that
the
plant
life
you'll
have
less
algae,
more
plants,
but
in
a
balance
that
you
don't
have
massive
growths
of
one
or
the
other.
The
clarity,
of
course,
will
will
be
there.
It'll
be
less
productive
in
a
biological
sense.
Q
Yet
the
overall
health
of
the
water
body
will
improve
as
you've
heard
over
the
last
three
years.
As
things
have
improved,
the
clarity
has
improved
how
people
have
been
spending
more
time
on
the
lake
spending
more
money,
spending
more
time
on
the
lake
property.
I,
don't
know,
property
values
have
gone
up
or
not,
but
I'm
sure
that
it
does
have
some
sort
of
effect
on
that.
Q
Looking
at
a
number
of
different
grants,
right
now,
the
state
is
pretty
limited
on
what
they're
willing
to
grant
you
we've
been
looking
at
some
foundation
stuff,
some
EPA
stuff
directly,
that
sort
of
thing
I,
don't
expect
a
city
to
fund
100%
of
this.
But
if
the
cyllage
city
is
willing
to
fund
the
majority
of
it,
it
makes
getting
grant
funding
a
lot
easier.
If
we're
not
asking
the
state
to
foot
the
whole
bill
or
a
different
agency
to
do
that.
J
Rogers
I
recall
when
you
gave
your
work
session
presentation
number
of
months
ago.
You
you,
lay
it
out
there
a
couple
different
sizes.
If
that's
the
right
terminology
of
facilities
that
we
could
be
utilized,
do
you
know
which
me
am
I
right
am
I
right.
Am
I
praising
my
question
because
I
thought
one
was
like
three
million
was
like
six
million
recall
I
mean
is.
Is
this
what
the
smaller
size
facility
no.
Q
Q
Q
One
thing
I
would
like
to
note
that,
once
we
do
the
capital
improvement,
the
the
byproduct,
the
algae
that
would
be
created
by
this
system
is
valuable
enough
to
sell
to
cover
the
operating
expenses
of
the
facility.
So
that's
that
should
take
a
you
know:
a
deep
breath
there
that
we
don't
have
to
continually
fund
operations
because
it
would
be
self
funding
who's.
Looking
at
buying
that
Roger
there's
a
number
of
companies
popping
up
across
the
country,
one
of
the
biggest
things
is
using
algae
to
create
water
bottles.
You
know,
take
plastic
water
bottles.
Q
J
Q
This
is
definitely
a
part
of
that,
and
one
of
the
main
reasons
for
getting
this
under
the
20
to
23
years
is
to
have
this
conversation.
If
we
want
to
do
this,
if
we
want
to
improve
the
lake,
this
is
what
it's
going
to
cost.
If
you
don't
want
to
do
that,
then
I
should
spend
my
time
looking
at
other
things,.
H
Q
The
calculations
I
was
basing
on
assumed
that
the
lake
was
going
to
come
up
three
feet,
although
it
did
not,
it
only
came
up
to
the
average
phosphorus
level
was
point
seven
milligrams
per
liter
coming
in
that
translates
to
1,600
pounds
of
phosphorus.
That
came
in
no
yes,
I'm,
sorry,
that
was
an
nitrogen
calculation.
We
had
40,000
pounds
of
nitrogen
come
in,
which
would,
at
a
twenty
five
to
one
ratio,
would
utilize
1,600
pounds
of
phosphorus
times.
Three
hundred
pounds
for
algae
would
be
240
tons
of
algae.
That
was
possible
this
summer.
Q
G
Q
Q
The
last
10
years
I
have
water
samples
both
outside
and
inside
the
lake,
and
that
has
been
the
average
over
that
ten
years
ten
year
period,
but
you
take
a
year
like
last
year.
Not
a
lot
came
in.
We
would
have
been
way
ahead
of
the
game
there
and
there's
other
processes
in
play.
The
sedimentation
stuff
does
get
locked
up
in
the
bottom.
If
it's
there
long
enough
and
additional
sediment
traps,
it
covers
it.
Q
H
Q
H
Q
Of
the
the
testing
or
the
fifty
thousand-
and
we
have
slotted
for
2022-
is
a
further
in
depth.
Engineering
study
to
further
justify
those
numbers,
fifty
thousand
is,
is
pretty
pretty
basic
for
an
engineering
study.
You'll
see
that
same
number
on
multiple
different
projects.
That
will
definitely
tell
you
whether
or
not
they
can
make
that
work
or
not,
and
that
will
tell
you
whether
or
not
the
or
million
is
worth
the
effort
to
do.
Q
H
D
It
almost
seems
that
that
study
should
be
a
little
further
ahead
than
the
four
million
bucks,
because
if
we
do
the
study
and
we're
not
sure
quite
what's
gonna
happen
in
the
next
year,
we
got
four
million
slated
I
just
feel
we
should
either
move
the
study
in
or
move
the
four
million
out
just
to
keep
in
line
with
our
thinking
of
firm
intentions.
Because
if
we're
waiting
on
that
study,
then
our
intentions
aren't
very
firm,
because
it
very
well
could
show
us
the
opposite.
That
makes
sense.
Sure.
C
I
would
say
20
or
21
at
the
21
the
latest,
but
20
is
probably
better
I
mean
that
gives
us
two
years
to
decide
if
that's
gonna
be
the
way
we're
going
if
it's
four
million
dollars,
we'll
just
drop
in
the
bucket
and
I
mean
it's
two
years
to
factor
that
in
and
if
they
do
have
to
do
that
to
build
a
facility.
If
that
one
doesn't
work,
do
we
have
to
tear
the
other
one
down
that.
H
Q
Q
Q
Q
H
H
D
We've
talked
about
and
talked
about:
what
are
we
gonna
do
with
the
lake?
What
are
we
gonna
do
with
the
lake
I
I
think
the
point
made
a
minute
ago
about
being
part
of
our
grand
scheme.
I
know
that
that
kind
of
is,
but
our
grand
scheme
isn't
quite
cooked.
Yet
we
need
to
get
that
down
on
paper,
but
we've
talked
and
talked
about
doing
some
what's
lake,
but
we've
never
really
done
a
thinking.
Dredging
is
too
expensive
and
other
solutions,
just
haven't
quite
seemed
to
come
around
we've
invested
in
this.
D
Q
D
I'm
thinking
move
that
into
2020.
You
know
as
I
looked
at
this
thing.
I
try
to
think
of
something
else
like
I
could
draw
a
parallel
to
and
I
think
I
come
up
with
it
at
the
airport.
We've
made
decisions
over
the
years
to
invest
in
that
Airport.
Invest
in
that
Airport
and
it
never
was
a
guarantee,
is
gonna
pay
off.
Well,
it
might
up.
Mitm
is
gonna
start
paying
off.
It
looks
like
we
might
actually
really
get
that
thing
going
I.