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A
Seasonal
salary
slightly
and
that's
to
accommodate
some
of
the
campground
security
that
correct.
We
used
out
there
this
summer,
which
it
worked
out.
We
teamed
with
Lake
Erie
Technical
Institute
and
that
worked
out
very
well.
Having
that
person
there
doing
security
for
us
excellent
relationship
with
the
police
department
and
worked
out
extremely
well,
so
that
was
the
increase
there,
not
a
lot
of
other
significant
increases
in
at
City
Park,
except
for
electricity.
A
We're
asking
for
an
increase
there
and
you
know
that's
kind
of
helped,
offset
some
of
the
costs
from
winter
wonderland
and
also
not
really
a
bad
thing,
because,
if
we're
using
more
electricity,
we're
normally
getting
more
campers
but
I
know
that
as
campers
grow,
get
bigger
and
larger
they're
actually
taking
more
juice
too.
You
know
it
used
to
be.
A
You
didn't
go
over
a
30,
amp,
receptacle
and
now
everything
we
got
at
City
Park
is
50,
30
20,
but
Doug
says
they
still
blow
fuses
once
in
a
while,
when
you
get
multiple,
multiple
air
conditioners
and
then
multiple
units
on
a
site,
it
does
does
take
a
lot
of
power.
So
that's
why
we're
looking
for
the
increase
in
the
electrical
line
item
there.
B
E
D
I
mean
we've
budgeted
for
a
hundred
thousand
seven
hundred,
which
is
what
we
anticipated
for
this
year.
You
know
we
did
increase
that
$6,200,
the
117s
been
it's
been
a
good
camping
seasons.
All
we
need
is
three
four
reign
weekends
and
we
won't
be
able
to
make
budget.
So
it's
I'll
say
it's
cautious,
but
it's
it's
realistic
is.
D
Historically,
we
are
far
exceeding
that
hundred
thousand
dollar
mark,
but
cautiously,
you
know
we
didn't
go
to
exactly
what
we're
bringing
in
the
last
two
fiscal
years,
but
we
did
raise
it
sixty
two
hundred,
anticipating
that
we
will
continue
to
grow
and,
like
you
said
Glenn,
we
do
have
the
full
service,
which
are
eight
dollars
more
for
camp
pad,
which
I
believe
is
3600
a
year.
I
didn't.
A
D
It's
been
discussion
with
both
staff
and
the
board.
They
don't
the
city,
swallows
that
electric
bill,
which.
C
One
thing
about
it:
the
optimist
club
puts
that
money
right
back
into
the
community
to
many
many
times
over.
You
know
what
they
make
there,
they
just
turn
around
and
you
apply
for
it
in
the
community
and
it
goes
into
somebody
else's
budget
and
I.
Think
that's
still
a
pretty
good
thing
for
us
to
maintain.
Let
them
have
it
and
you
know
if
they
took
it
just
Sioux
Falls,
but
they
don't.
They
turn
it
right
back
to
the
community.
H
D
Resale
like
say
the
Aquatic
Center
that'd,
be
our
concession
goods.
Okay,
you
know
softball
baseball
complex.
Last
year,
we
anticipated
actually
providing
the
concessions
instead
of
farming
it
out.
We
never
did
that.
We
let
the
League
City
slowpitch
deal,
run
it
but
merchandise
to
resale
example
in
the
city
park.
That
would
be
firewood.
It's
something
we
buy
and
then
resell.
So
this
was
firewood,
but
now
we
actually
contracted
out
the
full
service
where
they
actually
bringing
in
they
bundle
it.
They
wrap
it
and
we
get
a
percentage
of
revenue
off
that.
D
H
F
F
D
D
This
happened,
you
know
whenever
it
was
8
to
10
years
ago,
when
we
got
the
North
Loop,
but
the
only
option
we
could
have
is
we
can
do
reservation
based
if
we
go
back
and
get
permission,
you
know
not
saying
we
can't
buy,
gotta
fight,
lie
or
anything
like
that,
but
we
do
need
permission
from
the
same
people
that
gave
us
permission
to
expand,
so
we'd
have
to
go
to
the
state
state
park
system.
We'd
have
to
go
to
right
now.
D
A
D
Annexed
in
as
an
official
campground,
that's
the
only
way
we
can
actually
do
a
reservation
system
with
the
exception
of
camping
cabins,
which
is
a
brick-and-mortar
not
a
that.
We
could
do
reservations
without
any
permission
which
is
in
our
budget
to
do
camping
cabins
in
the
next
year
or
two
so,
but
no
being
literally
dude
an
agreement.
We
can't
without
permission
that.
D
E
D
Know,
and
in
retrospect,
if
you
do
look
at
revenues,
you
know
we
honestly
do
far
better,
because
we
are
in
a
reservation
system.
You
know
if
you,
if
you
want
the
fourth
of
July
week
and
you
come
in
twelve
days
early
to
be
able
to
get
that.
You
know
you're
camping,
Monday,
Tuesday
Wednesday,
you
might
not
even
be
in
the
camper,
but
you
got
your.
You
got
your
unit
out
there
to
make
sure
you
got
a
spot
for
that.
The
actual
weekend
do.
H
D
Know
we
haven't
you
ever
looked
at
the
east,
but
we
have
identified
five
spaces.
You
know
it's
not
much,
but
ready
by
the
Veterans
Memorial
on
the
very
north
side
of
the
North
Loop.
We've
never
expand
on
the
right
in
front
of
veterans
when
you
first
come
in
the
campground
there's
a
space
for
probably
two
to
three
more.
We
looked
at
that
shelter,
one
which
is
the
one.
If
you
ever
been
in
a
lake,
and
you
see
the
initials
in
the
in
the
roof-
that's
shelter
one!
You
know
we
were
looking
at.
D
D
You
know
when
we
did
the
last
three
months
survey
looking
at
icing
plates
for
about
eighty
four
percent
local.
For
that
reason,
you
know
you
don't
risk
coming
from
Sioux
Falls
to
maybe
get
a
spot.
You
know
we
do
have
the
pullthru,
which
are
for
your
larger
new
modern
style,
campers
that
maybe
we
could
potentially
look
at
that,
whether
we
get
kicked
back
from
the
other
campgrounds
I'm,
not
sure
you
know
this.
F
What
I'm
saying,
if
we
ask
and
don't
use
it
so
be
it,
but
if
we
ask
and
find
there's
merit,
maybe
that's
what
you
know
you
guys
should
discuss
internally.
I
think
I
know
where
you're
coming
from
teri,
because
you
can
go
out
there
and
there's
like
no
campers,
no
campers,
no
campers
but
yet
they're
all
booked
right.
E
D
Just
to
alleviate
that
with
you
know,
you
just
can't
go
put
your
name
on
a
marker
anymore,
not
have
a
camping
unit.
We've
dealt
with
a
lot
of
that
issues,
but
you
know
I
I
do
think
a
revenues.
We
see
a
far
decline
if
we
did
do
a
reservation
system,
we'd
be
more
popular
amongst
the
region,
but
we
probably
see
it
a
revenue
decline.
Yeah.
A
D
A
That's
gonna
be
smaller
I
think
then
you
think
coming
from
state
park
experience
because
it
used
to
be
that
way
that
they
would
just
take
the
Friday
and
Saturday
night
of
a
weekend.
But
now
is
all
camping
spots
and
campgrounds
become
more
and
more
popular.
You
see
that
people
are
coming
in
Wednesday
or
Tuesday
to
make
sure
that
they
have
that
special
site
that
favorite
site
for
the
for
the
weekend
and
especially
holiday
weekends.
You
know,
even
with
the
reservations
you
are
seeing
a
lot
of
12
to
14
night
reservations
and.
J
G
Well,
I
think
it
comes
back
to
if
I
could
use
the
phrase.
What's
the
mission
of
the
campground?
Is
it
it's
a
city
campground?
Is
it
there
for
the
city
or
is
it
a
campground
that
we
want
it
to
bring
people
to
Watertown
I?
Think
we
need
to
answer
that
question
before
you
start
getting
any
split,
because
I've
heard
the
same
stories
you
can
reserve
at
Sandy,
you
can
reserve
at
a
Morial,
but
out-of-towners
aren't
even
going
to
try
and
go
there
and
I.
Think
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that
way.
G
I
Have
to
ask
the
question
to
it
if
you
come
from
out
of
town
and
you
want
to
camp,
if
you
come
from
Sioux,
Falls
or
Madison
or
wherever
the
heck
you
come
from,
don't
you
typically
have
everything
you
need
with
you,
I
mean
you
I,
don't
know
where
we
get
revenue.
Maybe
they
go
in
and
go
to
the
movies.
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
just
wondering
you
know.
If
it's
camping,
what
kind
of
additional
revenues
would
you
get
from
somebody
from
from
out
of
town.
F
You
buy
gas,
we,
the
girl,
was
hot,
the
girls
went
into
town,
they
went
shopping,
we
went
out
and
ate
a
couple
times
because
you're
on
there
for,
like
four
days,
we've
camped
up
north
Aberdeen.
We
were
in
the
Aberdeen,
you
know
we
went
golfing
there.
Those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
it
does
happen.
You
don't
just
yeah.
G
F
Does
come
up
periodically
and
I
guess
that
it's
not
gonna
be
a
local
push
because
they
like
the
way
it
is
now,
but
if
I
look
you're
Don's
exactly
right,
what
is
our
goal
or
objective
our
mission
with
it?
If
it's
just
to
provide
84
percent
of
the
people
that
go
out
there
for
Watertown?
Well,
then
so,
be
it
we're
good?
But
if
it's,
if
we
want
to
make
it
more
available
to
whomever,
then
the
reservation
system
does
work.
G
D
Generally,
I
think
that's
thing
Don,
we,
you
know
in
all
the
years
I've
been
here.
There
has
never
been
a
directive.
You
know
no
one's
asked
that
question.
It's
always
been
the
city
park.
It's
always
been
a
first-come,
first-served
local
community
campground,
and
you
know
it's
something
probably
we'll
put
on
our
board
agenda
and
at
least
at
the
committee
level.
You
know
where
to
start
addressing
and
then
bring
it
to
the
council,
for
you
know.
A
D
J
A
H
K
Anything
else,
okay,
well
keep
moving,
just
kind
of,
for
the
sake
of
time,
we're
gonna
move
into
a
forestry
and
cemetery.
These
are
departments
that
are
underneath
the
park
and
recreation
and
the
park
board
umbrella.
However,
they
do
go
back
into
the
general
fund,
so
any
of
these
discussions
don't
involve
the
Park
and
Rec
fund
itself.
K
K
Not
a
lot
of
change,
not
a
lot
going
on
just
there.
They
just
do
a
great
job
job
doing
their
job
and
we
appreciate
them
next.
One
is
cemetery
and
there
another
Department
I'm
they
just
they
do
a
really
good
job
of
keeping
things
in
line.
They
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
movement.
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
capital
costs.
K
So
does
anybody
they
didn't
have
any
of
their
capital
items
removed
from
the
mayor's
proposed.
You
don't
have
really
any
significant
changes
other
than
we.
For
some
reason
we
have
never
really
budgeted
to
reclaim
cemetery
Lots
and
don't
even
ask
me
what
that
is
because
you'll
you'll
stump
the
finance
officer
right
there,
but
we've
consistently
in
the
last
seven
eight
years
is
the
farthest.
K
I
looked
back,
we've
had
expenditures
there,
so
I
just
kind
of
felt
that
it
was
probably
appropriate
to
at
least
put
a
budget
there,
because
you're
going
to
anticipate
spending
it
just
to
have
a
better
otherwise
you're
using
other
line
items
to
cover
where
you're
not
budgeting,
for
and
and
it
just
to
me,
and
it
just
becomes
a
more
cumbersome
process.
So
I
did
that
wasn't
something
that
they
requested.
I
guess
I
kind
of
requested
that
just
for
better
budgeting
purposes,
and
so
that's
why
that
$2,000
increases
there.
Otherwise
doesn't
anybody
have
any
Shelley.
D
H
D
D
D
You
know
you
get
people
who,
in
their
30s
old,
buy
lots.
They
get
new
jobs,
they
move
after
a
certain
amount
of
period
of
time.
Well,
we'll
approach
them
to
see
if
they
want
to
saw
them
back
at
the
price
they
purchased
it
from.
You
know
if
they
bought
them
for
two
hundred
thirty
years
ago.
That's
we
buy
them
back
for
new.
We
resell
them
at
the
current
value.
Can.
A
D
D
K
G
K
L
L
L
L
L
L
You
know
off
the
grid
compared
other
departments,
but
you
know
we're
we're
experienced
a
lot
of
I,
guess
things
that
you
know
things
we
unknown
territory,
there's
some
line
items
that
we
can
pretty
much
figure
what's
going
to
be
by
the
end
of
the
end
of
the
year,
but
there's
just
a
lot
of
other
line
items
that
have
come
surprised
us,
personal
services,
ninety
nine
thousand
dollars
alone
for
staffing.
We
had
to
increase
front
desk
staff
by
a
couple
janitors
in
Life
Guards
and
then
also
we
had
a
half-time
position
for
that.
L
L
We
budgeted
fifteen
thousand
for
2017
and
came
in
at
forty
six
thousand
thirty
one
thousand
dollar
difference
and-
and
you
know,
we
went
from
basically
sixty
nine
thousand
square
feet
to
one
hundred
for
one
pool
to
two
pools
and
and
that
so
that
was
a
little
surprising
I
mean
we
knew
was
going
to
increase,
but
not
that
so
other
factors
that
I
feel
they're
worth
mentioning.
As
far
as
our
utilities
we're
pretty
much
in
line
for
gas
in
water
and
sewer.
L
L
Where
does
our
peak
time,
which
we're
all
guessing
is
going
to
be
between
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
to
about
eight
o'clock
in
the
evening,
but
we're
working
with
them
also
on
working
with
Pitts
construction
to
work
with
with
our
HVAC
ins
and
see,
if
there's
things
that
we
can
tweak
and
that
so
we
just
want
to
cut
that
down.
But
we
are
pursuing
that
machinery
equipment.
L
That
is
an
item
that
we
did
not
have
budgeted
last
year
because
of
the
FF&E
of
the
new
building.
But
we
have
a
forty
nine
thousand
dollar
budget
for
machining
equipment.
Approximately
45,000
is
new
equipment
that
we
get,
that
we
want
to
replace
our
old
equipment
and
then
also
we're
looking
at
out
a
blade
in
a
you
know:
pete
housing
unit
unit
for
four
wheeler
for
snow
removal
during
the
during
the
winter
months.
L
L
What
we're
going
to
need
to
to
spend
pool
chemicals
is
about
six
thousand
higher
than
what
we
anticipated
we're
right
now
spent
at
about
1350
a
month
for
pool
chemicals
which
we
we
anticipated
850
for,
but
it
obviously
it's
increased
phone
services
is
five
thousand
dollars,
and
that's
just
what
all
the
other
departments
are
paying
at
that
mr.
$5
per
phone
per
per
month,
and
that's
about
it
for
that
I
have
as
far
as
expenditures.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
come.
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A
couple
comments:
you
know
that
the
electrical
one
early,
surprise
yeah,
because
we
we
spent
quite
a
sizable
amount
of
capital
dollars
in
that
building,
go
into
LED
lighting
and
with
the
expectation
that
we
would
see
significant
reductions
in
our
power,
consumption
and
I
know.
We
got
a
lot
in
that
building.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
so
that
that
surprises
me
but
and
I
would
offer
this
out.
John
you
and
I
and
Shelley
had
originally
worked
up
our
proposed
budget
way
back
when
and
I
there's
a
lot
of
ownership
in
that.
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Have
those
numbers
just
to
see
just
because
we
were
a
part
of
that
discussion,
upfront
and
setting
what
the
expectation
is.
We
take
that
very,
very
serious.
We
there's
the
caveat
that
we
don't
know
what
the
finished
product
was
going
to
be
at
the
time.
Exactly
and
we
don't
know,
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
right,
but
I
would
I
would
offer
that
out
and
because
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
look
at
our
costs
and
not
just
assume
that
it
is
what
it
is
and
I
know.
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In
the
total
you,
a
utility
bill
about
twenty
thousand
of
that
is
we're
still
paying
for
or
our
old
facility.
Yet
you
know
things
have
not
been.
You
know
completed
that
so,
and
I
did
a
rough
estimate.
What
we
old
and
it's
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
at
since
basically
mid
March
through
through
the
end
of
July,
so
John.
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Thing
with
the
pool
and
chemicals
is
why
that
would
be
well.
We
know
we
got
more
water
right,
so
we
know
we
got
to
treat
that
so
we
should
have
expected
that,
but
I
just
I
just
think
we
need
to
look
at
what
we
projected
and
where
we're
at
today
and
they're,
not
gonna,
be
one
thing
that's
going
to
take
to
get
the
in
line.
It's
going
to
be
tweaking
tweaking
tweaking
that's
gonna.
Take
on
a
facility
like
that,
it's
gonna
take
a
year
to
do
you
really
get
your
your
arms
around
high.
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Tournaments
involves
racquetball
tournaments,
we
plan
on
having
a
pickleball
tournament
dodgeball
tournament.
These
are
not
going
to
you
know,
plus
I
have
a
couple
of
volleyball
tournaments.
Now
my
volleyball
tournaments
all
net
six
to
ten
thousand
dollars
on
a
weekend.
Those
are
great
programs,
but
you
know
we
even
have
a
racquetball.
We
might
you
know
net
$500
and
the
dodgeball
and
pickleball.
Yet
we
don't
know,
but
you
know
so,
those
are
just
smaller.
I
was.
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Because
that's
another
thing
we'll
have
to
talk
about
and
that's
will
be
meeting
with
Ryan
next
week,
two
weeks
whatever
it
is
the
gentleman
that
we
hired
to
do
that.
So
you
know
that's
another
thing
that
we
counted
on
upfront
on
this
thing
and
I
know:
that's
changed
a
little
bit
and
I
understand
where
that
why
that's
changed
I've
shared
what
the
last
agreement
that
we
had
with
Mara
Thorson
was
with
Maher
now
and
not
sure,
if
that's
exactly
where
we'll
stay
at,
but
there
should
be
some
revenue
that
comes
in
from
that.
Yes,.
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Just
for
the
ease
of
Finance,
when
those
sponsorships
get
made,
they
really
need
to
you
know
state.
Is
there
a
specific
purpose
so
that
we
know
whether
there
is
some
restriction
and
what
we
need
to
do
with
it
as
a
finance
department,
because,
right
now
those
sponsorships
have
been
for
naming
rights
and
the
cost
of
the
building
other.
You
know
I
mean
premier
didn't
really
care,
but
we
had
building
needs
cost.
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So
that's
where
they
went
so
it's
if
somebody
wants
it
to
go
for
a
specific
purpose,
whether
it's
equipment,
whether
it's
replacing
something,
whether
it's
capital
costs
I
mean
it
would
be
nice
to
have
that
or
if
they
say
I,
don't
care.
What
purpose
purpose
designated
by
the
city
state
that
and
then
you
as
a
council
can
make
your
intention
so
that
we
know
whether
we
have
to
restrict
that
money
and
use
it
for
a
specific
purpose
or
whether
can
be
used
for
any
purpose
it
just
it
just.
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Well,
we
do
expect
is
when
we
talk
about
advertising
that
would
be
like
the
Swim
Club
has
their
signs,
the
softball
fields,
Heather's,
where
we
would
have
maybe
signs
in
some
of
the
areas,
the
basketball
courts,
the
scoreboards
and
that
revenue
was
has
always
been
and
in
in
almost
every
case,
the
people
that
are
doing
it
aren't
looking
at
a
donation
as
much
they
are
advertising.
Those
dollars
would
would
be
planned
to
go
back
into
the
phone
and
budget
offset.
Now
we
go
to
a
naming
rights
scenario,
we
name
a
gym
or
whatever
it
is.
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Ain't
falling
and
then
I
think
when
you
get
that
money
it
needs
to
be
there.
It
needs
to
be
put
as
a
revenue
line.
Item
of
advertising.
I
mean
it
needs
to
be
specific,
just
just
yes,
so
that
we
know
how
to
account.
For
that,
and-
and
you
know
we
don't
get
anybody
bent
out
of
shape
for
not
allocating
money
appropriately.
So.
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We're
looking
at
purchasing
about
ten
cardio
machines,
the
common
question,
a
lot
of
people
have
all
how
long
do
they
last
well.
If
you
talk
to
a
sales
rep
three
years,
you
should
get
rid
of
them.
Well,
you
talked
to
peers
of
mine
from
facilities
around
Minnesota,
South
Dakota,
North
Dakota.
They
keep
him
around
eight
nine
years
and
that
which
I'm
very
comfortable
with
we
have
quite
a
few
that
12
to
14
years
and
just
like
the
lawn
mowers,
they
have
the
longer.
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You
keep
them
the
more
you
know,
downtime,
you
have
the
more
money
you
put
into
it
and
you
know
our
equipment
a
little
bit
different
than
then
the
lawn
mowers
and
things
for
in
the
parks.
Because
people
are
you
know,
you
got
up
mowers
to
mow
long
grass,
but
people
are
not
paying
extra
for
that.
People
are
buying
a
membership,
they
expect
to
come
in,
have
good
equipment
and
updated
equipment
and
and
then
that's
what
what
drives
memberships
and
that.
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You
do
have
in
your
request,
you
do
have
you
know
a
certain
amount
of
new
equipment
too
and
I
think
that's
why,
in
later
years,
you
know
if
you
keep
adding
you're
gonna,
keep
adding
to
what
you're
gonna
replace,
there's
a
combination
of
why
it
would
increase
in
in
the
future,
so
I
mean
not.
All
of
it
is
all
replacement
and
you'll
have
that
intermittent
with
your
replacement
cost
another.
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Item
that
is,
we
did
decide
not
to
put
on,
but
we're
looking
at
expanding
our
parking
lot,
the
first
four
weeks
that
were
open.
We,
of
course
everything
was
brand
new
and
new
to
the
people,
but
the
East
parking
lot
and
the
sand
and
the
South
Park.
Not
the
main
parking
lot
was
between
four
and
eight
o'clock
at
night
was
just
maxed,
I
mean
there's
no
place
to
park
and
of
course
you
come
in
the
building.
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It's
not
that
crowded,
but
so
there's
a
look
area,
just
east
of
the
the
East
parking
lot
between
East
parking
lot
and
15th
Street,
where
we
met
with
Rob
Beynon,
and
we
felt
we
can
put
in
about
eighty
four
fit
about
eighty
four
cars
and
I
did
I
got
a
cold
for
curving
gutter
and
blacktop.
You've
got
one
hundred,
eighty
thousand,
but
Rob.
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We
feel
we
can
put
in
the
next
year,
millings
from
the
streets
and
just
have
a
temporary
parking
lot,
because
it's
it
we're
looking
at
probably
November
through
March
that
we
will
need
it
and
we
can
get
by
and
which
correctly
very
little
cost
to
put
in
that
and
then
we'll
get
by
for
a
couple
years.
So
in.
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People
can't
find
place,
you
go
in
and
looks
very,
you
know
very
doable
well
there
we
have
two
classes
going
on
at
a
time
there
might
be
between
those
two
group,
fitness
rooms
and
be
50
people,
what
you
know
and
and
then
they're
all
in
one
place,
and
then
you
have
the
pool
that
they
could
fit.
You
know
200
to
you
know
at
a
time,
and-
and
there
might
be
you
know,
50
people
in
the
gymnasium,
so
I
mean
it's
big
enough.
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They
spread
out,
you
know,
you
know,
always
the
the
concern
people
have
would
be
your
cardio
machines.
How
crowded
it
is.
You
know
you
can't
get
on
a
machine
and
I
know
last
spring,
when
we
were
at
our
max
the
first
four
weeks
they
were
never
all
full.
Now,
of
course,
we
had
150
new
members
at
first
four
week
for
weeks,
and
now
we
have,
you
know
I,
anticipate
by
the
end
of
December,
we'll
have
800
new
members.
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That's
what
my
goal
is
and
I
feel
very
comfortable
that
we'll
hit
that
and
so
we'll
see
what
it's
like
then,
but
it's
it's
I
could
probably
find
some
some
some
ballpark
numbers
yeah,
okay,.