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From YouTube: BOA & Plan Commission Meeting 05 10 2018
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Agenda for May 10, 2018
A
A
A
A
B
Wholesale
merchandising
is
wholesalers
either
sell
or
arrange
the
purchase
of
goods
to
other
businesses
and
normally
operate
from
a
warehouse
or
office
warehouse?
These
service
establishments
operate
storage
facilities
for
general
merchandise,
refrigerated
Goods
and
other
warehouse
products.
The
applicants
submitted
the
attached
written
the
in
your
agenda.
The
written
request
and
site
plan
floor
plan
which
reflect
compliance
or
non-compliance
with
the
following
terms
of
the
ordinance
section.
21
o
202
to
b7
A
through
H
are
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses.
B
This
includes
the
review
of
ingress
and
egress
to
the
property
off
street
parking
and
loading
screening,
buffering
signage,
exterior
lighting
required
yards
and
open
space
and
general
compatibility
with
the
neighborhood,
so
to
speak,
the
site
plan
and
request
in
it
were
not
addressed
such
things
as
grain
legs,
screening,
buffering,
signage,
exterior
lighting,
refuse
containment
traffic
flow,
which
would
include
loading
routes.
In
areas
of
note,
the
building
official
does
not
require
a
building
permit
for
the
elevated,
hopper
or
gravity
flow
bins.
B
However,
the
submitted
site
plan
does
show
compliance
for
accessory
the
typical
accessory
structure
setback
regulations
on
those
chapter,
21
63
is
off
street
parking
and
loading
requirements
and
engineering
design
standards.
The
submitted
site
plan
does
not
show
off
street
parking
spaces
aisles
layout
traffic
flow,
but
sufficient
area
exists
for
the
minimum
necessary,
as
required
by
the
building
official
I'm
gonna
pop
up
the
what
was
submitted
for
a
site
plan
here.
B
Chapter
xxi,
65
is
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
specific
uses
outside
storage
may
be
permitted
if
acceptable
screening
is
provided
and
approved
by
the
building,
official
and
merchandise,
which
is
offered
for
the
for
sale,
rental
or
lease
may
be
displayed
beyond
the
confines
of
a
building.
The
submitted
site
plan
does
not
show
plans
for
outside
storage
screening
or
displays,
and
it
was
not
addressed
in
the
letter.
Chapter
21,
73,
landscape
and
lighting
standards.
B
The
minimum
tree
minimum
number
of
trees
to
be
located
on
the
development
site
or
lot
shall
be
one
tree
per
50
foot
of
frontage.
That
is
three
to
four
trees,
because
there
is
175
feet
of
frontage
on
this
lot.
A
grass
boulevard
with
trees,
sidewalk
trail
cover
curb
gutter.
Driveways
is
not
shown
on
the
submitted
site
plan,
but
note
that
the
applicant
is
not
seeking
variances
for
many
of
these
lacking
requirements
and
title
24
is
the
subdivision
of
land.
Just
of
note
that
this
this
proposed
parcel
is
a
legally
described
subdivision
of
a
planted
lot.
B
It
does
comply
with
the
3
C
3
zone,
minimum
area
and
with
requirements.
So
this
board
must
consider
if
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
has
been
made
concerning
2102
a
2
to
b7
A
through
H
chapters,
21
6321
65
and
21
73
and
title
24,
as
just
addressed.
If
application
is
endorsed,
conditions
of
approval
may
be
considered,
such
as
screening
of
or
limiting
of
any
outside
storage
equipment
or
material,
limiting,
all
processing
to
inside
the
building
or
any
other
conditions.
This
board
themes
necessary.
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A
D
C
C
C
C
B
Well,
we
rely
on
the
site
plan
to
be
accurate
for
what
you're
approving,
unless
you
give
him
some
specific
leeway.
Otherwise,
when
there
are
changes
to
a
site
plan
such
as
an
addition
to
the
building
or
something
that
changes,
the
the
you
know,
could
change
parking
and
everything.
So
that
would
come
back
before
you,
okay,.
C
G
C
C
A
B
H
C
I
I
don't
know,
I
was
selling
seed
in
Wilmot,
with
my
parents,
since
2004
and
I
was
commuting
from
Watertown
to
Wilmot,
since
2004
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
take
the
same
type
of
dealership
and
do
it
here
and
quit
my
commute
between
here
in
Wilmot,
so
I
took
that
opportunity
and
I've
been
renting
for
the
last
two
seasons.
This
is
my
second
season
renting
and
we've
already
outgrown
the
rental
property
we
have
and
I
really
want
to
own.
C
C
C
E
B
F
C
D
J
B
Yes,
he
has
to
well
there's
14
off
street
parking
spaces
to
comply
with
and
he'll
have
to
pave
those
ones
that
he
knows
will
be
used
for
sure,
and
then
I
believe
that
the
route
that
the
truck
route
so
to
speak
is
a
little
negotiable.
As
far
as
whether
it's
grinding
materials
or
gravel
or
concrete
that
we
can
discuss
with
you.
D
B
B
A
H
B
Well,
ken
did
the
review
with
him
and
I'm,
assuming
it.
Ken
is
not
here.
Obviously,
today
or
he'd
be
answering
your
question,
but
I'm
assuming
he
doesn't
see
any
issues
with
it
and
I
know
it
became
a
little
bit
confusing
saying
that
that
they're,
not
by
permitting
process
or
by
code
considered
a
bin,
is
not
considered
an
accessory
structure,
so
it
doesn't
really
need
a
permit.
However,
we
do
oversee
their
placement,
and
Ken
was
ok
with
this.
A
B
That's
that's
actually
what
we're!
What
we're
saying
is
not
required
here,
because
there
isn't
it
isn't
a
typical
accessory
structure.
It's
really
I
think
considered.
There's
actually
in
the
code
book
it
shows.
I
wish
I
would
have
brought
that
with
me.
It
actually
shows
two
overlapping
circles
saying
what
what
does
not
get
defined
by
code
as
an
accessory
structure,
and
this
falls
into
that
those
those
circle
areas
and
I.
A
B
See
hoppers
elevated
is
right
here
in
there's,
also
bins
here
and
so
can
deduce
that
this
was
something
other
than
what
he
would
need
to
permit
as
an
accessory
structure.
It's
it's
a
non
structural
component
and/or
a
non
building
structure
according
to
code.
It's
an
odd
thing.
I've
never
dealt
with
it
before.
B
E
E
D
L
A
D
A
B
B
One
was
the
main
board
of
adjustment,
and
then
there
was
a
sign
code
Board
of
Adjustment
for
a
while,
not
not
even
that
long
and
then
recently,
a
few
months
ago
that
sign
code,
Board
of
Adjustment
was
eliminated
eliminated
and
it
was
all
put
under
the
general
Board
of
Adjustment.
So
when
we
have
minutes
that
we're
done
separately
as
a
sign
code,
Board
of
Adjustment,
but
they're
really
for
you
guys
to
sign
long
story,
long.
B
B
M
A
I
I
H
B
N
D
I
H
A
D
E
A
Thank
you
brandy
item.
One
on
the
agenda
is
actually
an
invitation
for
public
comment.
Participants
submit
all
if
there's
anybody
here
that
would
like
to
speak
in
the
public
to
the
board
on
an
item.
That's
not
related
to
an
agenda
item
today
you
can
approach
the
podium
and
and
give
Brandi
your
name
and
we'll
call
you
up
towards
the
end
of
the
meeting.
A
I
O
O
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P
L
I
Maybe
a
look
at
okay,
so
the
petitioner
is
Wayne
Meister,
who
is
the
president
of
Gulf,
View,
Estates,
being
the
owner
of
the
property
and
then
Lynn
Ford,
who
is
the
applicant
and
agent
of
the
owner?
The
applicant
submitted
a
plat
of
Gulf
View
Estates
12th
edition
on
January
26th
2018.
After
reviewing
the
history
of
Gulf
View
Estates,
it
was
found
that
the
last
preliminary
plan
was
approved
in
1997.
I
The
last
administrative
plat
of
Gulf
View
Estates
10th
edition
was
recorded
on
April
7th
2014
Gulf
View
Estates
11th
edition
was
brought
to
Planning
Commission
in
2015
and
was
recorded
on
and
that
plat
was
recorded
on
June
5th
of
2015
Gulf
View
Estates
11th
edition
was
brought
to
plan
Commission
since
the
master
plan
or
how
we
call
it
now.
The
preliminary
plan
was
expired
and
a
plat
cannot
be
administratively
plaited
under
those
conditions.
The
Planning
Commission
and
council
approved
and
City
Council
approved
the
plaque
to
address
the.
I
So
how
why
we're
bringing
the
preliminary
plan
forward
as
an
update
right
now
is
to
address
the
bigger
issue
and
to
be
able
to
approve
any
additional
plat
within
Golf
View
Estates
within
the
three-year
requirement
that
a
preliminary
plan
is
good
for
so
the
owner
we
required
the
owner
to
submit
their
original
master
plan,
as,
as
is
to
ask
Planning
Commission
for
approval
contingent
that
the
concerns
the
engineering
department
has
identified
through
as
built
information
provided
by
the
private
engineer,
are
resolved
and
improved
as
requested.
Those
requests
are
included
as
conditions
per
resolution,
20
1802.
I
Subsequently,
the
plat
of
Golf
View
Estates
12th
edition
will
be
able
to
be
administer,
approved
administrative
ly
as
it
meets
all
the
requirements
of
such
a
plat,
so
that
administrative
leave
planning
you
have
to
meet
the
requirement
that
a
preliminary
plan
of
the
subdivision
has
been
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
plot
is
in
conformance
with
the
same
and
then
or
a
lot
line
revisions.
So
long
as
the
law
it's
created
conform
to
the
density
requirements
of
the
applicable
zoning
district.
I
What
this
preliminary
plan
includes,
there's
about
eight
Lots
that
are
still
not
plaited,
so
just
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
that
is
done
before
this
expires,
also
that
the
developer
replaced
the
existing
15
inch
cmp
culvert,
with
a
15
inch,
RCP
culvert
with
flared
ends
on
both
sides.
The
pipe
shall
be
installed
to
match
existing
pipe
inverts
of
1730
2.2
and
1730
1.9,
with
a
max
drop
of
0.3
feet
from
Inlet
to
outlet
the
developer
installed
an
overflow
structure,
concurrent
to
the
replacement
of
the
culvert.
The
overflow
shall
be
installed
above
the
pipe.
I
If
possible,
at
the
designed
elevation
of
1730
4.5,
the
overflow
shall
be
armored
to
help
prevent
erosion.
A
detail
of
the
overflow
shall
be
submitted
to
the
city
engineer
for
approval.
A
deed
restriction
will
be
required
to
be
submitted
and
recorded
for
the
detention
pond
area
and
just
ensuring
that
they
would
never
build
on
that
area,
and
then
the
berm
shown
a
lot
22
shall
not
encroach
within
the
lot
lines
revised.
D
I
Upon
planning
of
that
lot
so
and
that
berm
is
part
of
their
detention
pond
area
that
right
now
it
is
shown
here
like
you,
can
see
that
it
cuts
off
that
corner.
So
we're
asking
that
that
that
whole
corner
be
included
in
the
detention
pond
area
instead
of
having
a
lot
with
an
awkward
triangle
on
the
other
side
of
a
berm.
Would.
A
M
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L
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E
N
But
I
can
answer
that
the
preliminary
plan
is
a
requirement
for
platting,
so
you
would
make
a
condition
along
with
a
preliminary
plan.
Then
they
couldn't
do
any
further
planning
until
the
condition
is
met.
That's
normally
how
the
conditions
are
so
we
like
to
have
preliminary
plans
free
of
conditions,
but
if,
if
you
need
to
put
a
condition
on
there,
it
really
isn't
a
condition
of
the
preliminary
plan.
It's
a
condition
of
a
future
plant.
I
M
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E
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I
Okay,
so
the
petitioners
are
Robert
and
Katherine
eard
again
the
owners
of
the
property.
The
property
is,
as
you
all
know,
as
the
old
tree
farm
property
on
the
corner
of
2nd
and
14th
up
in
the
northwest
section,
the
petitioners
submitted
application
and
petition
on
April
13th,
requesting
approval
for
annexation.
Zoning
of
our
one
single-family
residential
district,
the
Park
and
Rec
and
engineering
department
are
working
with
the
Erdogan's
discussing
concepts
for
park
dedication
that
will
be
submitted
to
the
park
board
and
playing
plan
commission
upon
the
time
of
planning
for
approval.
I
So
the
adjacent
zoning
designation
there
is
our
one.
Single-Family
residential
to
the
north,
east
and
south
are
two
single-family
attached
residential
districts
to
the
west
and
east,
our
three
multi-family
residential
districts
to
the
north.
So
and
then
this
that
our
two
zoning
is
what
we
just
recently
Riis
owned
a
Valley
View
and
then
that
our
three
is
what
runs
along
2nd
Street
on
the
west
side.
I
So
the
adjacent
public
right-of-ways
will
be
included
in
the
annexation,
and
zoning
designations
will
be
extended
to
the
centerline
of
the
right-of-way
is
adjacent
to
the
property
that
will
include
4th
Street,
2nd
Street,
14th,
Avenue
and
16th
Avenue.
The
petitioners
will
connect
to
city
water
and
sewer
with
associated
tapping
fees.
Response
they're
responsible
for
the
pro
rata
share
for
2nd
Street
Northwest,
which
is
calculated
to
approximately
be
twenty
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
five
hundred
and
forty
linear
feet
of
frontage.
I
There
is
approximately
six
point:
six
four
acres
being
annexed:
the
property
is
not
within
floodplain
and
then
the
five
percent
park
dedication
requirement
per
title
14
would
we
require
would
require
either
0.33
acres
of
land
donation
or
money
in
lieu
to
be
approved
by
the
park
board.
The
city
or
the
staff
recommendation
is
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
application
to
annex
and
so
on.
The
above
property.
A
A
D
A
I
I
And
kind
of
where,
where
discussions
are
right
now
and
nothing
has
been
presented
to
the
park
board,
it's
just
been
kind
of
in-house
with
the
developer
is
on
their
agent
is
if
we
could
get
a
bike
trail
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
that
would
connect
on
the
bike.
Trail,
that's
on
14th
right
now,
and
then,
instead
of
running
up
or
down
14th
and
up
second
that
and
what
they're
trying
to
achieve
here
will
be
I
mean
it'll,
be
like
a
park
because
they're
doing
a
lot
of
landscaping
and
really
improving
this,
this
block.
I
I
D
M
L
A
I
Your
petitioners
are
Jared
and
Tina
Mansell,
who
are
the
owners
of
the
property.
The
petitioners
submitted
the
application
and
petition
on
April
20th
2018,
requesting
approval
for
annexation
and
Zoning
of
our
one
single-family
residential
district
by
annexing
the
property
of
the
petitioners.
Petitioners
are
bringing
the
lot
that
currently
resides
in
the
county
as
non-conforming
being
under
35
acres
into
conformance.
The
petitioners
are
aware
of
sewer
tapping
fees
as
well
as
park.
Dedication
requirements,
the
park
and
rec
and
engineering
department
are
working
with.
I
The
Mansell
is
discussing
concepts
for
park
dedication
that
will
be
submitted
to
the
park
board
and
Planning
Commission
for
approval.
The
facts
of
this
property,
the
adjacent
zoning
designations,
there's
our
one
single-family
residential
district
to
the
north
and
then
county
land
surrounds
it
on
the
south,
east
and
west.
The
adjacent
public
right-of-ways
will
be
included
in
the
annexation,
and
zoning
designations
will
be
extended
to
the
centreline
on
the
right
of
ways
it
jacent
to
the
property,
which
is
South
Lake
Drive.
I
They
will
connect
to
city
water
and
sewer
sewer,
tapping
fees
associated
with
frontage
and
that
being
810
feet
of
frontage
is
approximately
three
thousand
five
hundred
forty
seven
and
sixty
four
cents.
And
then
this
is
approximately
they
own
twelve
acres,
but
they
are
bringing
in
approximately
5.8
acres
to.
I
The
property
is
within
the
hundred
year,
flood
plain
the
FEMA
regulations
in
title
five
building
codes
and
floodplain
regulations
of
the
revised
city.
Ordinances
must
be
complied
with
for
any
activity
impacting
the
area
within
this
annexation
and
then
also
the
five
percent
park.
Dedication
requirement
per
title
fourteen
would
require
either
point
two:
nine
acres
of
land
or
money
in
lieu
to
be
approved
by
the
park
board
staff
recommends
the
plan
to
prove
the
application
to
annex
--an
zone,
the
above
property.
P
A
P
L
Before
we
get
too
much
into
this
I,
don't
think
it's
an
issue,
but
back
is
my
dock,
and
so,
if
you
want
me
to
recuse
myself,
I
will
and
I
just
wanted
to
notify
the
Planning
Commission
I.
Don't
think
it
has
anything
to
do
with
what
we're
doing
and
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
affect
my
decision,
but
figured
I'd.
Give
you
guys
a
heads
up.
He
treats.
A
P
I
To
kind
of
I
guess
we
can
kind
of
get
it.
He
has
some
concerns
and
that's
where
we're
working
through,
but
he
doesn't
he's
weighing
out
the
options
because
right
now
for
annexation
it
they
would.
There
would
be
a
lot
of
burden
to
come
into
the
city,
but
so
that's
where
we'll
get
those
answers
to
him
on.
Basically,
the
there's
a
fee
to
water,
tow
municipal
utilities
that
the
super
old
water,
their
whole
and
mark
can
probably
touch
on
that.
But
so
that's
one
of
the
issues
and
then
also
the
park
dedication.
I
You
know
he
knows
how
much
or
how
many
acres
are
required
and
then
also
an
estimate
of
cash
in
lieu
but
nothing's
in
writing.
So
he's
not
sure
on
that.
Where
and
park
board
hasn't
been
approached
with
anything
yet
either
so
once
they
do
make
a
decision,
he
will
get
that
information,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
moving
it
along,
but
then
also
we're
getting
all
the
answers
at
the
finish
line
when
he
needs
to
make
his
final
decision.
A
I
P
A
L
Just
have
a
couple
questions:
how
does
this
annexation
normally
work
like
on
the
edges
of
town
here,
because
I
think
there's
a
couple
Blake
properties
that
are
similar
to
this,
so
mr.
Manson
or
doctors
me
dr.
Mansell,
is
paying
all
the
hook-up
stuff
right
and
then
is
there
any
real
monetary
obligation
on
behalf
of
the
city.
K
Mark
Meyer
utilities
in
order
to
hook
up
after
it's
annexed
into
the
city
in
order
to
hook
up
to
our
water.
There
has
to
be
an
eighty
nine
hundred
dollar
fee
paid
to
sewer
water.
The
as
of
last
year.
There
was
a
territory
agreement
made,
and
this
is
outside
of
our
territory
now
and
if
they
don't
pay
the
eighty
nine
hundred,
even
if
it's
annexed
into
the
city,
they
can
stay
on
the
well
or
choose
to
have
sue
or
a
water
hookup.
If
sue
or
a
water
can
my.
L
A
K
L
A
I
Okay,
the
petitioners
are
Chris
Shulkin
of
the
executive
director
of
Watertown
development
company
and
the
owner
of
which
is
the
owner
of
the
adjacent
property,
the
applicants
and
owners
of
the
real
property
water
tone.
Development
Company
are
the
owners
of
the
real
property
abutting,
both
sides
of
17th
Avenue
southeast,
and
have
submitted
a
and
submitted
a
petition
to
vacate
that
portion
of
the
public
street
right
away.
I
The
petition
was
submitted
to
facilitate
the
proposed
construction
of
a
large
industrial
facility
that
will
move
nearly
all
current
operations
onto
a
single
footprint
and
enhance
public
safety
by
reducing
hazards
created
by
movement
of
employees
and
materials
between
facilities
and
enhanced
public
welfare
by
providing
adequate
space
for
the
proposed
project
and
thus
maintaining
the
presence
of
a
large
private
employer.
The
engineering
department
has
reached
out
to
Watertown
municipal
utilities,
as
well
as
private
utility
companies,
and
there
are
no
utilities
residing
well.
That's
there
are,
but
they're
working
with
them.
I
This
includes
gas,
water
and
sanitary
sewer,
meaning
there
will
be
no
need
to
retain
a
utility
easement
over
the
proposed
vacated
right-of-way
the
portion
of
right
away
that
is
proposed
to
be
vacated.
It's
unimproved
upon
development
of
adjacent
Lots,
a
turnaround
easement
will
be
achieved
for
the
remaining
portion
of
17th
Avenue
southeast.
I
But
with
this
one
being
unimproved,
it
isn't
as
impactful
as
what
the
previous
vacation
that
we've
seen
was
so
you'll.
Look
at
the
impact
on
the
public
travel
community,
betterment
impact
on
emergency
services
and
impact
on
city
infrastructure.
The
city
staff
supports
plan
commission
recommending
the
vacation
of
the
public
right-of-way
under
resolution.
20
1816.
E
Right,
as
you
alluded
to
brandy,
I
would
presume
this
vacation
to
be
slightly
less
controversial
than
some
of
the
other
ones
that
have
come
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission
in
recent
months.
I
have
a
question
for
you,
though,
with
respect
to
access
and
ingress
and
egress
to
the
property.
The
the
plant
when
it's
when
it's
built
will
not
be
off
of
Mickelson
Drive.
Will
there
be
an
access
off
of
15th,
Avenue
and
or
29th
Street.
I
M
Was
just
reviewing
these
plans
today
and
the
main
access
will
actually
be
off
of
15th
Avenue
for
employee
parking,
and
then
they
will
maintain
a
private
roadway
or
17th
Avenue
currently
is,
and
Michelle
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
any
of
this.
But
that
is
the
idea
that
the
employees
would
perk
on
the
east
side
of
this
using
15th
Avenue
and
then
I'm,
assuming,
depending
on
traffic
flow
they'll
use,
both
29th
and
Mickelson,
to
get
off
up
to
12.
E
I
E
I
E
So
clarifications
so
part
of
the
reason
for
the
vacation
of
the
17th
Avenue
southeast,
because
that's
going
to
be
part
of
where
the
footprint
of
the
building
or
the
property
in
some
fashion
is
going
to
be.
Is
that
correct?
Okay?
Let
me
I
got
to
open
up
to
a
public
hearing
quick,
but
is
that
did
your
understanding
of
brandy?
Yes,.
I
E
Q
I'm
Michele
cacao
check
from
the
Watertown
development
company,
along
with
Chris
Shelton
from
Watertown
development
company,
and
we've
been
working
on
this
project
for
quite
some
time,
and
the
footprint
of
their
building
and
just
the
size
of
the
building
necessitates
this
large
number
of
acres
in
the
vacation
of
that
street.
As
you
can
see
from
the
site
plan,
they
will
have
a
test
track
down
on
one
of
those
lower
acres
or
lower
sections
where
they
will
be
driving
their
trucks
and
doing
testing
on
them
from
there.
Q
E
L
We
should
make
a
finding
of
fact
and
then
the
condition
stated
as
well
attach
to
any
motion
that
would
be
my
only
recommendation
and
I'd
be
willing
to
do
that.
So
I'd
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
vacation
request,
with
the
condition
that
a
turnaround
easement
be
achieved
based
on
the
following
findings
of
fact
that
the
vacation
has
almost
no
impact
on
public
travel
because
it
it's
a
it's
not
improved
currently
in
terms
of
community
betterment.
We're
likely
going
to
receive
a
large
overall
community
benefit
by
the
building
of
a
large
factory
warehouse.
L
Additionally,
there's
a
safety
improvements
by
not
having
these
people
drive
all
over
town
back
and
forth
and
having
it
located.
There's
no
impact
on
emergency
services
that
I
can
tell
that
would
be
discernible
and,
as
you
stated,
the
impact
on
city
infrastructure
was
limited
to
a
single
gas
line,
which
you
guys
have
assured
us
that
we'll
be
able
to
work
out.
Furthermore,
29th
Street,
the
bypass,
is
a
through
Road
and
limited
intersections
on.
That
is
beneficial
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons:
beneficial
safety,
wise
and
beneficial
for
fast
travel
on
29th,
Street.
E
I
A
I
I'm,
actually
with
it
being
not
part
of
the
agenda
and
as
new
business
well
I
suppose
I
should
have
told
you
guys
at
the
beginning
that
I
don't
have
a
presentation
for
you
for
the
r1a,
but
you
can
expect
it
next
time.
I
know
I
wish
I
really
wish
that
I
could
have
had
something
in
front
of
you,
because
we
can
keep
it
moving
forward,
that
we
can
get
it
potentially
added
to
the
ordinance
and
utilize
this
building
season.
I
And
so
my
goal
is
for
next
meeting
May
24th
to
have
something
to
present
as
new
business
and
give
you
guys
an
idea
of
how
it'll
be
incorporated
into
ordinance
and
then
the
following
meeting,
which
will
be
June,
1st,
I,
think
or
third
that
that
first
week
in
June
that
then
we
can
maybe
have
an
ordinance
amendment
in
front.
Okay,.
I
Right
I
do
want
to
show
you
guys,
though,
so
I'm
going
to
be
sending
an
email
to
the
Park
Board.
We
had
a
meeting
on
River
Ridge
Estates,
getting
that
Park
edition
figured
out
and
so
Jay
and
myself
and
then
Collin,
DeYoung
and
Greg
Hoff
teaser
met
yesterday
and
I
feel
it's
appropriate
to
give
you
guys
a
heads
up
on
the
location
and
then
Park
Board
will
be
tomorrow.
I.
I
Okay,
so,
as
you
can
see
that
now
what
park
board
left
and
what
I
had
told
you
guys
previously
is
that
they
they
asked
for
four
acres
of
park
land
to
be
dedicated
and
then
four
acres
for
point
six,
two
acres
of
money
in
lieu
of
the
land
and
that
that
value
still
needs
to
be
determined.
But
we
will
get
that
in
writing
once
the
park
board
determines
this
location
is
okay.
Now
this
is
where
they
showed
it
previously,
but,
as
you
can
see,
they
change
the
zoning.
I
So
the
main
concern
was
that
it
was
a
budding
commercial
zoning,
and
so
now
they
change
this
to
be
r3,
which
is
high
density,
so
having
green
space.
Next
to
that
might
be
ideal.
Also,
it's
not
shown
here,
but
this
still
is
a
storm
detention
area,
but
as
long
as
that
can
be
designed
with
the
right
capacity
that
it
could
still
function
as
green
space,
for
a
majority
of
the
time
is
that
correct,
:.
M
D
I
L
Maybe
I
missed
a
discussion
when
we
had
that
joint
meeting
at
the
park
and
Rec
board
I
mean
well
I
thought
we
were
talking
about
five
or
five
point
six
or
something
like
that,
because
the
the
required
dedication
is
an
is
eight
eight
point:
six
to
eight
point:
six
two
and
I
thought
that
they
were
asking
for
like
three
and
five
half
acres
or
something
like
that.
I
guess,
maybe
in
my
math,
is
poor.
That
probably.
Q
A
I
And
so
then
they
would
have
they'll
have
to
bring
a
preliminary
plan.
So
once
we
get
this
to
park
board
and
if
they
approve
of
it,
then
it
will
still
need
to
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
the
preliminary
plan
because
we'll
need
to
you
know,
we
just
saw
it
last
year
and
we
approved
it.
But
now
because
they're,
substantive,
there's
major
changes
and
one
of
those
major
changes
is
the
public
park
location
so
that
changed.
I
So
then
we'll
have
to
get
that
reproved
the
preliminary
plan
and
then
then
we'll
get
the
park
dedicated
after
that's
approved.
So
we'll
probably
have
that
comment
the
same
time
at
the
same
meeting.
So
we'll
approve
the
preliminary
plan
and
contingent
that
you
guys
approve
it
and
then
have
the
plat
there
too.
So
we
can
get
that
Park
land
dedicated
and
then
take
this.
Get
this
taken
care
of.
I
O
I
L
I
So
then,
you
guys
need
to
be
on
the
same
page
in
essence,
but
the
no
matter
what
they
have
to
dedicate
five
percent
of
land
or
cash
in
lieu.
So
what
the
Park
Board
did
was.
They
said,
eight
point,
two,
six,
eight
point:
six
two
acres
is
a
large
park,
so
we
we
want
to
see
half
of
that
be
dedicated
in
land
and
then
half
of
that
be
collected
as
cash
in
lieu
and
so
yeah.
I
That's
where
that's
where
they
were
at
and
and
I
think
that
it
is
right
to
want
to
get
the
land
more.
So,
in
a
situation
like
this,
where
it's
not
a
small
parcel
where
it
would
be
a
sliver,
you
know
down
by
the
dog
park
that
whole
green
space
area
just
south
of
the
cemetery-
that's
like
I,
think
15
acres.
You
know
which
you
gets
used
a
lot,
and
so
this
would
be
half
of
that.
I
L
And
did
you
would?
Did
we
ever
figure
out
what
the
what
the
solution
was
with
the
valuation
issue,
because
I
ever
met
recall
there
being
a
issue
with
you
know
what
appeared
to
be
a
pretty
inconsequential
amount
of
money
for
cash
in
lieu,
and
so
here
we're
giving
up
four
four
and
a
half
acres
and
we're
getting.
You
know
we're
not
getting
very
much
in
return.
I
I
just
wasn't
sure
if
there
was
any
sort
of
resolution
to
that
right.
I
I
L
Reading
the
statute
and
the
issues
with
the
statute
I'll
only
make
the
comment
that
I
have
some
serious
reservations
about
it
at
having
sat
through
that
and
thinking
about
it.
The
last
couple
weeks
there
I
don't
believe,
there's
any
Park
north
of
14th
Avenue
and
certainly
not
north
of
14th,
Avenue
and
west
of
81
and
there's
a
lot
of
young
families
in
that
particular
area.
L
M
I
L
You
know
I
mean
the
way
this
the
ordinance
is
written.
This
is
ours
to
give
away,
and
once
we
give
it
away,
it's
gone
and
it's
gone
forever,
and
so
we
have
to
think
about
that
that
it's
not
just
6,000
bucks
today
or
18,000
bucks.
Today,
it's
not
having
that
access,
not
having
the
you
know
the
safe
place
for
children
to
play
whatever
it
is,
and
we
will
have
some,
but
it
will
be
limited
to
the
constraints
that
we're
shown
here
today.
So
that's
my
two
cents,
yeah.