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B
A
B
You
bet
mm-hm
Stein,
sign,
mark
Stein,
sign,
permit
number
1,
1,
1,
5,
5
1
appeals
to
follow
the
requirements,
the
sign
ordinance
as
it
applies
to
property
located
at
31,
31st
Street
southeast
off-premise
signs
shall
be
limited
to
288
square
feet
in
size
and
shall
not
conflict
with
the
state
of
federal
law.
The
provision
of
this
subsection
shall
be
deemed
to
apply
it
to
any
federally
designated
right
away.
The
applicant
is
applying
to
put
a
three
hundred
and
sixty
foot
square
foot,
billboard
two-sided
digital
billboard
in
replacement
of
an
existing
sign.
B
If
you
guys
are
familiar,
this
computers
are
not
working
very
very
well
at
all.
So
this
is
the
Hobby
Lobby
parking
lot.
You
get
to
12
down
here.
There's
an
existing
billboard
here
right
now
that
you
guys
have
all
probably
seen
through
the
past.
They
are
requesting
to
take
and
remove
this
sign
and
put
a
digital
billboard.
This
sign,
where
it
sits
right
now,
is
not
legally
sitting
and
confirming
this
in
an
easement
and
too
close
to
road
and
everything
else,
but
they
would
place
it
legally.
Conforming
sign
approximately
this
area
here,
actually.
B
B
A
D
D
I'm
Stuart
Stein
from
stein
sign
display,
and
we
are
adhering
to
weird
hearing
to
all
of
the
standard
sign
code
requirements
for
this
particular
location,
except
for
for
one
piece.
We
are
adhering
to
the
minimum
lot
size
for
C
3,
which
is
20,000
square
feet.
We
are
adhering
to
the
single
monopole
structure,
which
then
in
turn
provides
a
clean,
modern
look
which
was
the
intent
of
this
signed
code,
as
it
was
rewritten
here
just
a
couple
months,
back
we're
seeking
an
exception
on
the
square
footage
for
the
sign.
D
So
that's
the
piece
that
we
are
asking
for.
The
variance
on
that
is
1/3
less
than
this
existing
sign.
We're
asking
for
72
square
feet.
That's
essentially
what
this
request
is
all
about,
and
I
do
have
a
picture
that
I
think
would
actually
help
show
that
request
even
a
little
bit
clearer.
Unfortunately,
it
doesn't
show
up
if
it
could
be
zoomed
in.
D
D
E
D
Be
360
square
feet
correct,
so
we're
reducing
the
size
just
to
kind
of
recap.
The
numbers
the
existing
board
as
it
stands
right
now
is
480
square
feet.
Correct
480
square
feet
is
the
existing
board.
The
signed
code
as
it'll
as
it
stands
right
now
allows
288
square
feet.
We're
asking
for
360
square
feet
so
with
those
numbers
we're
giving
up
120
square
feet
asking
for
72
is
kind
of
that.
Happy
medium.
We
felt
like
this
would
be
a
reasonable
request,
given
the
consideration
I've,
given
the
circumstances
and-
and
the
those
circumstances
are
this.
B
F
D
Main
concern
that
we
have
with
this
particular
location
and
the
whole
premise
for
this
request
has
to
do
with
the
distance
from
the
road.
If
you
compare
just
for
comparison
purposes,
the
billboard
that
we
have
that's
by
hi
v--
is
ten
feet
off
of
the
road
from
the
edge
of
the
billboard
to
the
edge
of
highway.
212
is
ten
feet.
This
location,
for
example,
between
what
you
see
here
the
edge
of
the
road
and
where
the
proposed
site
would
have
to
be
due
to
the
powerlines,
would
be
roughly
100
feet
so
10
times
the
distance.
D
So
there's
two
big
issues
with
that.
With
this
distance,
the
distance
creates
a
challenge
for
people
that
are
driving
by
to
be
able
to
read
and
comprehend
something
that's
100
feet
off
the
road
versus
ten
feet
off
the
road.
There's
a
big
difference
there.
The
other
aspect
that
we're
dealing
with
is
the
fact
that
the
high
V
board
for
comparison
purposes
is
35
miles
an
hour
and
the
one
here
that
we're
seeking
the
request
on
is
a
45
mile,
an
hour
speed
zone.
So
we've
got
two
two
obstacles.
There.
D
We
participated
in
the
sign
code
discussion
most
recently,
a
few
months
back.
That
was
over
the
span
of
probably
a
year
that
probably
encompassed
what
felt
like
twenty
some
meetings.
There
were
four
four
representatives
from
our
company.
There
was
a
representative
from
another
billboard
company
here
in
town,
Mike
Sheehan,
no
one
from
our
company,
no
one
of
the
four
representatives
from
our
company
nor
Mike
Sheehan,
nor
any
of
the
people
that
were
on
the
signed
committee,
thought
of
the
need
to
address
the
billboard
size
for
billboards
that
are
so
far
off
the
road.
D
We've
never
had
any
examples
that
have
been
an
issue
for
us
in
any
of
the
billboards
that
we
have
around
the
area
new
or
existing.
Apparently,
no
one
else
had
that
same
concern,
so
over
those
again,
20-plus
meetings
give
or
take
no
one
from
our
company
or
anyone
else
on
the
committee
ever
thought
that
you
know.
D
We
should
probably
write
this
into
the
code
that
if
it's
X
number
of
feet
off
of
the
road,
an
additional
say
25%
should
be
granted
for
sign
code
allowance,
so
that
that's
why
this
is
unique,
because
out
of
all
of
those
meetings
that
took
place
not
one
time
was
this
ever
brought
up
and
I.
Don't
feel
that,
based
on
this
one
circumstance
and
based
off
of
our
previous
history
of
never
having
this
issue
ever
become
an
issue
with
the
road
in
the
distance
that
it
makes
sense
to
have
to
rewrite
the
sign
code.
E
How
many
signs
are
on
the
north
side
of
the
road
between
19th,
Street
and
31st?
Street
I
mean
the
reason
I
asked
that
question
is
that
in
this
situation
this
this
is
one
sign,
but
those
other
signs
are
a
hundred
feet
back
from
the
road.
So
if
we
were
gonna
be
looking
at
doing
one
theoretically,
we
could
be
asking
for
more
ass
down
the
road,
and,
if
that's
the
case
then
maybe
the
more
appropriate
thing
to
do
would
be
to
have
an
amendment
to
the
ordinance.
If
that's
what
we're
looking
at.
E
F
E
To
go
as
a
community,
that's
fine!
But
if
we
do
a
one-off
here
and
we
decide
not
to
follow
that
policy
moving
forward,
that
would
impact
you
moving
forward
on
those
signs
as
well.
So
would
it
be
better
for
you
to
have
some
inclination
of
what
you
could
be
doing
with
those
future
signs
over
time,
as
opposed
to
just
trying
to
take
this
on
as
a
one-off?
It's
just
a
question.
I.
E
G
I
H
G
J
E
G
K
Exactly
Mark
Steyn,
sorry
with
respect
to
to
that
there's
again,
there's
a
number
of
rules.
Regulations
with
respect
to
if
a
sign
is
severely
damaged
in
this
a
non-conforming
sign.
You
can't
reinstall
it
with
respect
to
many
of
the
signs
on
that
mr.
Kay
is
referring
to
along
highway
212
there.
Many
of
those
are
non-conforming
signs
and
so
that,
if
and
when
they
ever
taken
down,
which
they
will
be
has
that
property
is
developed,
they
will
not
be
reinstalled.
K
E
E
K
E
D
Other
the
other
piece
that
I
would
say,
too,
is
that
if
that
happens,
you
know
there
has
to
be
an
economic
decision
that
takes
place,
because
it's
very
costly
to
put
up
a
single
monopole
structure
and
the
likelihood
that
we
would
ever
recoup
our
return
on
investment.
By
the
time
we
had
that
new
monopole
board
in
the
ground.
We
would
be
rolling
than
rolling
the
dice
on
whether
or
not
someone
would
come
in
and
develop
that
property.
E
And
the
reason
I'm
asking
these
questions
is
just
that
a
signing
committee
spent
over
a
year,
and
maybe
it's
something
we
don't
you
don't
hit
it
every
time.
I
understand
been
in
the
game
long
enough,
but
288
spent
288,
4/5
1213
years
right,
and
so,
if
we
go
to
360
regardless
of
you
know
how
we
pen
ourself
into
it
360
is
the
new
288.
D
Correct
I
mean
that's
certainly
worth
consideration,
but
I
guess
I
would
even
reference
the
sign
code
and
all
the
representatives
from
our
company.
We
never
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
never
argue
that
288
wasn't
the
correct
number
because
it
met
the
need
boards
of
all
of
the
locations
in
town.
This
particular
board
is
a
hundred
feet
off
the
road.
It's
a
little
bit
different
and
I
would
even
question
whether
those
other
13
boards
are
really
a
hundred
feet
off
the
road
either
I.
E
E
B
D
M
D
J
E
E
Ever
since
I've
been
and
part
of,
the
reasoning
was
that
I
think
at
the
time
was
people
were
thinking.
Well,
if
we
were
gonna
allow
for
stack
signs
12.
That
was
part
of
the
discussion.
The
other
aspect
was
most
of
the
standard
signs
were
10
by
30s
or
12
by
30s
at
the
time,
and
the
the
mission
of
that
board
was
trying
to
reduce
the
size
of
signs
and
clutter,
and
so
that's
why
I
think
they
settled
on
the
288.
If
I
remember,
mark
was
in
some
of
those
meetings.
I
think.
D
That
this
plays
really
any
strong
matter
in
the
in
this
situation
or
the
request,
but
in
visiting
with
Ken,
he
had
just
shared
that
city
of
Yankton
just
settled
on
a
new
sign
code
and
they
allow
400
square
feet
for
their
particular
billboards.
But
you
know
mr.
case
you
hit
it
right
on
the
head
that
we
believe
all
along
that
as
participants
in
the
sign
code
discussion,
whether
it
was
the
first
go-around
or
the
previous
go-around
that
the
intent
behind
the
sign
code
was
to
clean
up
the
visual
clutter.
It
was
to
make
it
neat.
D
You
know.
We
believe
that
we
can
do
better.
We
believe
that,
if
given
the
opportunity
to
put
up
a
structure
that
it
looks
similar
to
the
one
that
we
have
by
hi-hi-hi
V,
that
it
would
provide
a
single-pole
get
rid
of
four
poles
that
it
would
be
a
more
modern
look,
it
would
be
more
attractive
and
welcoming
into
the
community,
and
ultimately
it
would
be
a
net
gain
to
the
city,
because
it
would
just
look
that
much
more
attractive
as
an
entrance
again
reducing
the
size
of
what's
already
there.
D
We
also
believe
that
our
intent
would
be
to
follow
through
with
what
we're
doing
at
our
hyvee
location
and
that's
to
participate
in
in
several
thousand
dollars
of
donations
to
other
organizations
within
Watertown,
permitting
promoting
city
events,
nonprofit
organizations,
and
we
would
continue
that
with
this
with
this
board.
So,
in
addition
that
72
square
feet
that
we're
asking
for
would
give
businesses
additional
to
just
the
one.
D
That's
there
now
additional
business
is
the
opportunity
to
promote
themselves
the
products
and
services
that
they
offer
and
give
give
everybody
the
confidence
to
know
that
when
the
board
is
there,
people
are
going
to
be
able
to
read
it
understand
it
comprehend
it
and
it
it's
a
net
gain
and
that
win
for
the
city.
In
my
opinion,
so
we
appreciate
your
opportunity.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
bring
this
before
the
board
and
would
open
it
up
to
any
other
questions
that
you
may
have
I.
E
L
We've
had
a
few
discussions
with
the
d-o-t,
it's
their
intent
to
maintain
the
speed
and
efficiency
of
the
highway,
as
they
have
the
vision
to
keep
that
speed
up
to
its
current
level
and
location.
They
don't
want
to
alter
it
ultimately,
I
think
as
a
city
grows
east,
you
know
eventually
we'll
have
to
consider
a
speed
limit
change
and.
E
D
E
B
B
H
A
question
you
talked
about
the
speed
limit
and
the
visibility
and
the
readability
of
the
sign,
and
you
I
believe
I
believe
I
believe.
Are
there
any
industry,
standards
or
engineering
studies
or
any
specifications
that
relate
to
readability
of
a
sign
distance
from
a
roadway
speed
limit?
There
must
be
some
industry
standards
or
engineering
studies
out
there
that
give
you
a
guideline
on
that.
Is
there
more
than
I
believe
it
won't
be
readable?
Is
there
some
documentation?
H
N
H
This
early
letter
of
the
law,
but
has
there
been
some
studies
when
you
go
out
to
a
customer
and
they
want
to
put
up
a
sign
someplace
and
it
happens
to
be
a
hundred
feet
off
this
highway
and
the
speed
limit
is
45
miles
an
hour.
There
must
be
a
way
that
you
can
put
pen
to
paper
and
use
an
algebraic
equation
of
some
sort
and
say
this
is
the
minimum
sign
that
is
going
to
allow
this
sign
to
be
readable
under
these
conditions,
rather
than
just
saying,
I
believe
this
is
what
you
need
correct.
F
That's
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
very
fair
assumption.
The
way
we
would
attack
that
there's,
there's
not
really
a
set
of
guidelines,
it's
all
about
visuals.
So
when
we're
talking
about
an
electronic
sign,
we're
talking
about
something
that
has
content,
that's
different
from
one
advertisement
to
the
next,
so
we
would.
We
would
suggest.
Okay,
if
you're
gonna
have
a
verbage
on
there,
your
letter
height
would
need
to
be
no
less
than
X
to
be
able
to
be
clearly
read,
but
because
there's
so
much
more
involved
in
those
advertisements.
F
There's
pictures
there's
logos
things
like
that.
It's
there's
really
no
hard
fast
rule.
It's
you
want
six
inch
tall
letters,
but
we're
sorry
you're,
not
gonna,
be
able
to
read
that
so
we
would
have
to
make
them
be
twelve
inches.
You
know
it's
I,
don't
have
the
formula.
I
don't
have
the
equation.
We
just
know.
We
just
know.
N
D
D
So
to
your
to
your
question
there
there
is
a
chart.
There
is
some
sort
of
a
guideline
and
table
because
ultimately
I
mean
at
this
location
yeah
you
could
have
six
inch
letters,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
readable.
So
another
way
to
put
it
is
say,
you
know
twelve
inches
in
letter
height
at
our
high
v
board
at
35
miles
an
hour
at
10
feet
off.
The
road
is
not
going
to
be
the
same
in
terms
of
readability
at
12,
inches
100
feet
away
at
45
miles
an
hour,
so
it
limits
the
limits.
D
The
amount
that
you're
able
to
essentially
work
with
on
the
board
limits
the
content.
If
you
will
on
how
effective
that
message
can
be
because,
there's
again
there's
only
so
much
time
you
can
read
as
you're
driving
by
and
there's
only
so
much
space
on
the
board
to
work
with.
So
there
are
some
parameters
in
place
out
there.
I.
H
H
N
H
K
K
Again,
we
appreciate
that
again,
like
everybody,
we're
citizens,
water
down,
we
don't
want
junky
sounds
out
there,
any
more
than
anybody
else
does,
which
was
why
we
think
this
is
a
net
gain
for
the
city
of
Watertown
VIPRE,
remove
a
big
ugly
sign,
they're,
putting
up
a
cool-looking,
modern
sign.
I
will
say
this,
though,
that
with
respect
to
the
sign
height,
the
cyan't,
let
er
whatever
again
I'm
gonna,
let
you
in
on
a
secret
of
the
same
business.
We
don't
use
that
chart
even
we're
makin
signs
in
front
of
businesses.
It's
it's.
K
What
looks
good,
what
looks
appealing
what's
readable
and
for
the
eye
test,
the
eyeball
tests.
What
we
did
do
was
go
to
the
IV
location
and
sat
a
hundred
feet
away,
which
put
us
in
the
parking
lot
of
villa
ramble.
You
know,
and-
and
it
was
not
legible,
it
really
wasn't
what
the
size
of
the
sign
that
was
there.
So
scientific
you
know
perhaps
not
but
valid.
Nevertheless,
as
far
as
why
how
we
arrived
at
our
request
of
25
percent
increase.
H
And
that's
what
I'm
interested
in!
So
that's
a
really
interesting
point
that
you
actually
did
went
out
and
did
that
experiment
and
that
certainly
provides
some
support
for
your
choice
in
the
square
footage.
That's
what
I
was
looking
for!
It's
something
to
support
that
random,
which
appeared
to
be
a
random
number.
K
D
D
M
M
M
D
A
It's
clear
that
the
the
proposal
that
you've
brought
is
an
improvement
over
the
existing
structure.
It's
the
material
and
construction
is
more
in
compliance
with
the
standard
I
understand
there.
The
request
for
the
size
difference
based
on
the
set
back
from
the
road-
and
you
know
I'm
just
thinking
about
it
in
terms
of
you
know
almost
like
when
you
go
to
the
eye
doctor
and
you're.
A
Looking
at
the
the
letters
right,
they
don't
change
in
size,
but
if
you
got
farther
back
from
that,
it
gets
harder
to
read
so
I
understand
the
request
along
Todd's
line,
a
conversation
earlier,
though,
I
think
you
know,
I
would
I
would
probably
prefer
to
see
something
in
ordinance.
That
would
say
if
it's
you
know
passed
a
certain
distance
from
the
road
that
we
would
change
the
size
requirement
or
size.
Allow
allowable
I
think.
E
There
is
an
opportunity,
I
mean
if
we
are
collectively
thinking
that
an
ordinance
change
is
necessary.
We
could
pigeonhole
this
variance
by
conditions
so
that
no
one
else
can
make
the
same.
Ask
giving
us
time
to
look
at
changing
the
ordinance.
If
that's
where
this
board
is,
is
that
I
I
do
I
think
the
distance
from
the
edge
of
the
road
many
billboards.
D
Mean
I
guess
I
would
just
referenced
that
again
for
as
many
representatives
that
were
from
the
billboard
industry
as
part
of
these
signed
code
discussions
and
the
sign
code
committee
in
itself,
this
issue
never
came
up,
and
so
the
need
to
rewrite
the
sign
code
can
certainly
be
done,
but
I
think
it
could
still
be
accomplished
with
mr.
Kay's
suggestion,
as
well
with
your.
J
N
F
M
A
N
O
And
like
they
were
saying,
when
the
sign
code
meetings,
we
never
anticipated
a
sign
that
would
be
off
the
right
away,
and
so
this
subject
of
do
you
need
to
have
a
large
assignment
farther
back?
You
probably
do,
but
we
never
addressed
it,
because
we
never
thought
it
was
going
to
happen.
The
ones
farther
west
they're
going
to
son
say
it
when
they
start
building
buildings
there.
This
one
probably
will
stay
there,
there's
no
building
who's
going
to
be
going
in
there
in
there
gonna
be
taken
away.
O
If
you
don't
do
anything,
they
can
leave
this
existing
sign
there
and
it'll
break
be
there
and
just
as
ugly
as
it
always
is
I
I
support.
You
know
allowing
them
to
do
that,
because
you're
going
to
have
a
electronic
sign
on
a
monopole,
which
is
a
lot
nicer.
What
you
hear
and
also
the
back
will
be
an
additional
sign,
because
right
now,
the
back
of
this
is
really
not
attractive.
So
with
that,
that's
my
two
cents
worth.
O
P
N
P
Utilities
I
just
want
to
say:
we've
been
working
with
the
Stein's,
but
there
is
an
electric
overhead
line
going
on
across
there
kitty-corner
and
it's
required
by
Electric
Code.
That
design
has
to
be
a
minimum
of
ten
foot
away
from
the
conductor,
so
we've
been
working
with
them
bias
one
to
state
that
the
placement
of
the
signs.
A
E
To
approve
the
variance
to
locate
the
sign
as
applied
for
based
upon
the
following
findings:
1,
the
location
of
the
sign
is
at
least
100
feet
from
the
northern
edge
of
highway
212
and
further.
The
Board
of
Adjustment
would
only
entertain
a
similar
request
for
an
electric
message.
Center
monopole
sign
design
located
at
least
100
feet
from
the
edge
of
a
public
road
to
allow
for
a
sign
of
the
size
of
360
feet
square
feet.
A
H
E
B
J
E
A
A
N
K
A
E
N
I
G
I
Then
how
we
set
it
up.
The
invitation
for
public
comment
participants.
So
then
they
would
come
up
and
submit
that
they
would
like
to
be
at
the
end
of
the
agenda
and
that's
where
we
have
the
like
number
9.
That's
where
it's
open
public
comments,
then
that's
where
they
can
come
back
and
then
speak
on
their
matter.
So
then,
if
they
are
here
for
something
that's
on
the
agenda,
then
they'll
speak
at
that
and.
E
A
E
A
J
J
J
O
P
O
A
I
E
E
E
C
Sarah
Karen
Mayer,
I
sat
on
in
on
a
committee
discussion
about
this.
With
the
county
judge.
Carmen
means
the
sheriff
Bruce
Bueller
from
the
City
Council.
Several
different
social
service
agencies
and
lawyers
were
present
at
the
meeting
to
talk
about
having
group
homes
in
the
downtown
specifically
so
that
people
could
walk
from
the
group
home
to
anything
they
could
walk
to
the
police
department.
C
They
could
walk
to
the
grocery
store
they
could
they
wouldn't
need
to
rely
on
public
transportation
or
whatever
they
could
get
by
on
their
feet,
and
so,
specifically,
the
downtown
was
requested
and
that's
zoned
c1,
the
other
c1
areas
are
remote
and
they
probably
wouldn't
be
interested
out
by
the
Ice
Arena.
There
wouldn't
be
a
reason
to
put
it
out
there
or
you
know
where
the
other
ones
are.
So
that
was
the
thinking
of
why
c1
just
want
to
add
that.
I
E
C
C
And
you
might
want
to
make
a
distinction
and,
in
that
regard,
I
haven't
thought
through
to
that
extent
of
it
I
think
if
you're
just
hearing
this
for
the
first
time
now,
it's
you
know
it
might.
Take
you
a
while
to
think
about
what
kinds
of
conditions
should
you
put
on
this
type
of
use?
Should
it
be
a
certain
distance
from
certain
other
uses
or
zoning
districts,
that
sort
of
thing
and
does
it
require
setbacks
or
any
any
kind
of
standard
that
you
would
want
that
might
be
different
from
the
zone.
C
Well,
and
in
this
case
the
C
1
has
no
setbacks
from
the
rights-of-way,
so
you
might
want
to
make
a
condition
that
you
know
if
it's
in
I
don't
know
just
throwing
that
out
there
as
something
that
would
be
in
addition
to
the
normal
standards
for
the
district.
If
you
did
this
type
of
use,
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
the
conditional
use
listed,
but
you
want
to
be
careful.
You
don't
want
to
just
fill
it.
A
E
There's
different
types
of
group
homes
I
mean
there's:
are
there
are
group
homes
for
individuals
in
a
group
setting
that
may
be
like
a
Human,
Service
Agency
room,
there's
group
homes
that
are
for
individuals,
I'm,
going
through
alcohol
or
drug
treatment
group
homes
for
transition
homes
for
people
leaving
penitentiaries
or
jail
settings?
So
I
think
it's
group
home.
You
might
be
whittling
it
down
to
what
kind
of
group
home
some
some
group
homes
you
can
put
regulations
on
some.
You
can't
I
mean
if
you
are
a
protected
class
under
the
Fair
Housing
Act.
E
I
We've
just
discussed
it
between
staff
and
we
can
do
research
and
look
into
other
communities
and
then
more
so,
if
there's
anything
that
you
guys
have
that
you
would
like
us
to
include
otherwise
the
discussion.
What
we've
talked
about.
We
can
we'll
just
look
into
that
and
bring
something
forward
as
an
amendment.
Or
would
you
guys
want.
E
C
E
C
Exactly
right
and
that's
why
the
downtown
was
desired
for
this
use
and
the
last
time
this
came
up,
I
think
the
album
gave
up
looking
for
a
place.
It's
allowed
in
the
are
three
but
the
Board
of
Adjustment
at
the
public
hearing
I
think
there
were
several
public
hearings
weren't
there
and
it
was
without
a
standard,
a
list
of
performance
standards.
It
is
kind
of
random
when
people
would
come
up
and
say
please
not
in
my
neighborhood
go
somewhere
else.
I
think
it's
great
that
you
have
this
just
not
here.
C
A
I
Q
This
is
just
a
I
guess:
I'll
start
out.
This
is
just
a
very
first
and
very
basic
draft
for
you,
I'm,
expecting
to
hear
we're
expecting
to
hear
a
lot
of
input
and
possible
changes.
So
this
is
just
a
first
step,
very,
very
lenient.
You
might
say,
and
it's
or
straightforward
black
and
white
okay,
and
so
it's
it's
up
to
this
board
to
let
us
know
what
you
feel
about
it.
Q
E
E
Why
can't
you
just
go
rent
a
building,
downtown
and
and
put
up
a
shingle
there,
and
so
what
I
was
thinking
is
that
we
would
take
a
take
of
the
lead
from
communities
like
Brookings
and
Sioux
Falls,
and
here
on
an
Aberdeen
that
allow
you
can
break
it
up
into
minor
versus
major
home
occupations,
those
home
occupations
that
generate
a
little
bit
more
foot
traffic
pedestrian
traffic
than
others.
For
example,
in
Brookings
they
have
a
list
of
about
a
dozen
different
types
of
home
occupations
that
I'm
an
artist
I'm.
An
artist
and
I
mean
I.
E
Do
handicrafts,
I
do
specialty
baking.
We
just
had
that
a
little
while
ago,
I'm
a
professional
office
of
an
author
word,
processing,
computer
drafting,
graphics,
engineering,
investment,
insurance,
interior,
real
estate,
I,
teach
music
lessons,
I
do
mail-order
work
or
Internet,
where
we
can
do
things
with
coin
collections,
I'm
a
sales
consultant
for
my
Shaklee.
What
have
you
there's
a
whole
list
of
those
types
of
uses
that
probably
have
a
very
minimalistic
impact
on
the
neighborhood
and
depending
on
what
we
want
to
add
to
that
list
or
take
away
from
those?
E
Are
things
I
think
if
I
came
in
I
meet
the
checklist
the
staff
has
put
together,
which
I
think
is
a
good
thing.
Let
the
staff
just
issue
a
permit
for
that.
If
there's
something
where
there's
some
neighborhood
concern,
or
they
want
to
use,
maybe
there's
a
more
intensive
occupation
that
way
we
come
up
with
a
list
of
those
those
then
come
to
the
board.
As
a
Board
of
Adjustment
action
item,
I
mean
I,
just
a
firm
believer
that
we
don't
need
to
be
creating
work
for
creating
works
for
works.
E
Come
and
see
them,
you
know
if
somebody's
watching
for
kids
in
their
house,
probably
maybe
not
someone's
watching
twelve
kids
in
her
house.
Maybe
yes,
somebody
wants
to
cut
hair
in
their
home
and
it's
the
same.
You
know
maybe
maybe
I'm
going
to
only
cut
hair
on
weekends.
Maybe
not
I
mean,
though,
there's
different
types
of
situations.
That
is,
it
really
is
a
problematic
or
you
know,
and
that
that
would
be
a,
but
as
a
if
the
staff
issues
the
permit
and
we
receive
complaints.
E
Well,
then
that
would
be
the
opportunity,
then,
for
it
to
come
back
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
because
maybe
there's
a
concentration
of
home
occupations
in
a
neighborhood
I
mean
I,
don't
I
don't
know,
but
that's
kind
of
where
I
was
at
with
the
whole.
The
gushin
and
and
I
know
staffs
been
doing
some
work
on
that.
I
We
landed
and
where
will
Jill
put
it
all
together,
where
we
have
the
checklist
where
then
like
here,
where
it
explains
that,
if
compliance
with
all
limited
home
occupation
standards
cannot
be
met,
application
for
conditional
use
permit
must
be
submitted.
So
as
long
as
everything
on
the
checklist
and
that's
where
it'll
be,
you
guys
should
study
that
to
see,
if
there's
anything
that
you
see
as
a
concern
where,
if
there's
something
that
they're
always
that
we
can
change
on
here
and
I,
guess
what
we
can
do,
how
we
can
improve
or
change
the
checklist
I.
E
Like
I
like
what
you
did
on
the
one
I
got
confuses
there's
a
couple
different
checklists,
but
the
one
checklist
where
you
have
a
listing
of
types
of
businesses
I
would
like
you
to
revisit
that.
Look
at
some
other
different
communities
that
have
listings
that
are
much
more
comprehensive,
I'd
rather
start
comprehensive
and
Whittle
it
down
as
opposed
to
start
small
and
build
it
back
up.
Q
O
F
Q
Q
E
Fine
with
that
I've
read
that
but
I'm
what
I'm
saying
to
you
is
I
wanted
to
start
much
bigger
and
Whittle
it
down.
That's
my
I
mean
unless
and
unless
you
guys
wanted
to
start
with
that
and
going
up
I
think
again,
if
we
can
be
more
out
there,
so
that
again,
we're
not
generating
work
for
works
sake
that
really
has
no
negative
impact
on
a
neighborhood
I.
Don't
know
why
we
need
to
be
over
regulatory.
In
that
perspective,
you're.
Q
E
Q
E
Recommend
daycare
be
home
occupation
by
teaching
musics
as
a
home
occupation,
doing
taxes
as
a
home
occupation,
they
care
of
certain
sizes
trips
it
into
a
higher
review
certain
businesses
that,
if
I'm
you
know
that's
what
I'm
saying.
That's
me:
I
want
home
occupations
as
a
whole,
and
this
is
me
and
the
rest
of
the
board
says
Todd
you're,
all
wet
great.
But
if
we're
gonna
make
this
a
permitted
accessory
use,
permitted
means
permitted,
not
a
conditional
use
and
let's
come
up
with
those
uses
that
we're
fine,
that
we
don't
have
to
see
and.
I
E
I
E
F
E
E
I,
like
the
checklist,
it's
really
good
I,
like
everything
that
they've
done
all
I'm.
Just
saying
is
it's
just
I.
Don't
want
us
to
pigeonhole
ourselves
into
saying
it's
only
if
this
this
and
this
happens
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
we
can
be
looking
at
there's.
There
are
ton
of
examples
out
there.
E
M
N
E
But
if
there
are
complaints
that
would
be
part
of
the
issuance
of
the
administrative
permit,
if
there
are
complaints
or
something
comes
up
and
a
neighbor,
could
that
would
be
part
of
the
ordinance
that
they
could
then
ask
that
they
felt
their
aggrieved
by
the
decision
of
a
board
or
a
member.
It
comes
back
to
a
board.
We
could
have
it,
then
what.
E
Rather
than
adding
expense
and
time
and
work
activities,
I
mean,
if
you
guys
want
add
more
work,
go
for
it
I'm
trying
to
help
you
here
by
from
a
staff
level
that
you
don't
need
to
have
that
much
work.
If
you
want
to
make
a
requirement
in
there
that
they
need
to
have
a
at
least
contact
their
neighbors
or
a
sign
off
that
maybe
put
the
onus
on
the
applicant
and
not
on
staff
right.
I
E
E
E
E
A
E
Right
and
then
and
then
then
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
list
the
the
uses
himself,
but
what
is
common
at
where's,
the
commonality
of
those
uses,
and
then
that
becomes
the
standard.
So
we
don't
have
to
have
475
okay
businesses.
But
if
we
have
three
general
types
of
categories
of
business
that
we're
okay
with
we
can
we
can
define
that.
Q
E
Think
if
you
take
a
look,
go
to
Brookings,
go
to
Sioux
Falls,
go
to
Aberdeen,
go
to
Rapid
City
and
take
a
look
at
what
they've
done
some
each
one
of
them
has
good
parts
generally
there's
some
sort
of
a
listing
of
types
of
businesses,
business
specific,
but
you
can
you
can
you
can
Mary
what
they're
trying
to
do
there
and
it's
not
as
restrictive
as
what's
being
proposed
here?
That's
where
I
met
I
mean
unless
the
rest
of
the
board
is
fine.
With
with
what
we
got
here,
we
could
vote
on
it
today.
A
I
E
Yeah
I
mean
in
your
thing
here:
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
somebody
that
wanted
to
come
in
and
teach
music
lessons.
One
fall
underneath
your
thing.
If
you
set
it
up
that
you
that
a
person
can
have
a
business
where
they
can
have
more,
no
more
than
one
client
in
their
business
or
maximum
number
of
clients
in
a
business.
I
D
I
I
E
Q
E
Q
E
K
E
I
E
N
I
Q
E
Q
Q
Q
I
E
N
A
E
F
E
Too
many
meetings
too
many
meetings
I'm
anyway,
we
think
that
we
are
probably
85%
there.
We've
expanded
the
concept
of
just
temporary
zones
and
the
boulevard
to
a
whole
new
look
look
at
temporary
signs
throughout
the
entire
community,
and
we
are
planning
on
one
more
meeting
here
in
the
next
week
or
two,
and
because
of
that
then
then,
coming
back
with
a
rehashed
proposed
ordinance
amendment.
So
so
because
of
that
I'd
like
to
keep
this
thing
moving,
I
would
like
to
postpone
this
again
for
a
month.
I
N
H
J
I
J
J
J
J
I
So
this
is
the
rezone
of
all
that
portion
of
outlet,
six
flying
north
of
2nd
Avenue
South
and
West
22nd
Street
East
I'll,
pull
it
up
here
on
the
map.
It's
this
shaded
area,
the
petitioners
Donald
Andres,
the
president
of
Willow
Creek
development
in
the
petitioners,
submitted
the
application
and
petition
on
March
29th,
requesting
approval
of
the
rezoning
currently
described,
or
it's
currently
zoned
our
three,
which
is
multi-family
residential
district
and
they
are
proposing
to
rezone
it
to
our
one
single-family
residential
residential
district.
I
Their
reasoning
as
their
reasoning
for
that
is
that
they
would
like
to
develop
the
lots
of
single-family
housing
and
our
one
is
more
restrictive
than
our
three.
So
a
similar,
also
just
for
a
little
history.
A
similar
request
was
approved
in
2014
when
the
Lots
on
the
west
side
of
the
pond
were
rezone
from
R
3
to
R
1.
I
I
I
J
I
I
J
I
N
I
K
I
E
E
I
B
N
E
E
R
A
R
R
R
To
continue
that
all
along
this,
this
property
until
we
get
to
the
correct
yes,
so
to
answer
your
question
regarding
the
c3
abutting,
an
r1
this
this
lot
right
here
does
that
it
is
technically
correct
and
this
lot
would
be
as
well.
But
it's
our
intention
to
further
enhance
screening
with
trees
and
and
their
work.
A
N
A
J
O
A
E
F
K
J
I
I
The
petitioners
submitted
a
reply
to
block
5
of
Valley
View
for
sedition
on
March
29th,
requesting
approval
for
subdividing
the
existing
five
Lots
in
the
plateau,
Valley
View,
first
edition
into
nine
conforming
Lots
with
our
two
single-family
attached
residential
district
zoning.
The
proposed
last
one
through
nine,
a
block
five.
I
The
proposed
lots
one
through
nine,
a
black
5.
It
were
recently
rezone
from
r12
and
r3
to
r2,
as
I
stated,
so
that
the
lots
could
be
subdivided
and
developed
as
duplexes.
The
zoning
ordinance
amendment
was
approved
by
City
Council
on
April,
2nd
2018,
and
then
it
was
of
this
board's
request
and
we
would
have
brought
this
forward
anyway.
There
is
not
any
public
right-of-way
being
dedicated,
they're
doing
a
private
road
for
access,
but
it
does
create
over
five
new
Lots,
but
then
also
as
a
condition
of
the
rezone.
I
The
plan
commission
did
request
that
the
replac
come
forth.
It
would
have
anyway,
but
that
all
nine
Lots
are
that
are
created
being
created,
are
conforming
and
meet
the
minimum
lot
area
and
with
requirements,
and
then,
as
far
as
the
private
road
we
did
discuss
this
at
a
design.
Review
team
meeting
with
city
staff
and
different
departments
and
the
private
road
will
provide
frontage
to
lat
five
as
well
as
lot.
Eight.
Actually,
a
lot
four
through
nine
will
have
their
frontage
will
be
from
that
private
road
now,
but
they
also
do
front
to
public
right-of-way.
I
So
the
only
one
that
is
landlocked
by
this
route
plat
is
lat
5,
which
is
the
only
lot
being
created
that
is
not
front
to
public
right-of-way.
An
agreement
for
the
private
road
will
be
filed
with
the
plat
Lots.
Four
through
nine
are
proposed
to
utilize.
The
private
road
for
frontage,
ok
and
they'll
adhere
to
the
setbacks
from
the
public
right-of-way.
Setbacks
are
not
required
on
private
roads.
Although
an
easement
must
be
unobstructed
and
we
do,
we
have
requested
sufficient
easements
and
we
have
the
approval
of
the
water
till
municipal
utilities.
I
A
lot
of
the
language
is
standard,
but
I
mean
in
this
situation
the
one
the
part
that
is
a
little
different
is
the
private
road
section,
because
you
know
usually
we
do
have
the
public,
right-of-way
dedication
and
what's
awkward
about
that
language
is
that
we
we
kind
of
go
back
and
forth
between
road
and
street,
but
this
is
actually
how
it
is
written
in
ordinance.
I
didn't
I
mean
because
it
says
private
Road
and
then
a
talks
about
Street.
So
that's
that's
where
just
to
point
that
out.
I
If
that
was
confusing
to
anybody,
but
then
otherwise,
all
of
the
public
right-of-way
improvements
that'll
be
done
by
the
the
same
developer.
Actually,
that's
signing
this
that
will
sign
this
agreement
because
he's
the
landowner
there
too,
but
for
grant
sixteenth
forth
and
grant
on
himself
that'll
all
be
improved
by
J&J
land
sales
as
well,
and
they
they
signed
into
the
development
agreement
for
Valley
View,
first
edition
that
came
through
last
summer
and
then
another
agreement
that
is
attached,
I
guess
the
exhibits
exhibit
a
shows.
I
And
this
just
tell-
and
this
it's
good
that
this
is
filed
with
the
plat,
because
it
explains
that
you
know,
city
services
are
usually
not
provided
on
private
roads,
so
it
just
makes
somebody
that's
looking
into
buying
that
lot
aware
that
that
those
provisions
exist
like
your,
your
garbage
pickup
would
be
on
16th,
Avenue
or
Grant
Drive,
and
then
your
and
your
mail.
We
put
that's
in
here
too.
N
E
N
I
I
So,
but
how
we
went
up
went
done
this
in
the
past
is
that
we've
had
them
call
out
what
the
private
road
will
be
called
because
for
as
far
as
emergency
vehicles-
and
you
know
trying
to
find
these
locations
5th
Street
West
is
what
made
sense
to
us
that
they
would
be
addressed
off
of
his
5th
Street
West.
Ok,.
E
L
K
L
So
we
thought
consistency
with
5th
Street
to
the
north
was
important
and
then
also
then
carrying
the
addressing
through
there,
as
if
it
was
a
public
street,
would
be
a
lot
easier
for
those
people
to
both
address
themselves
and
for
the
emergency
services
to
find
them
when
they
need
to.
So
that
was
the
culmination
of
our
discussion.
I
That
the
pickup
point
for
residential,
solid
waste
and
recycling
and
other
similar
services
for
Lots
4
through
9
should
be
located
adjacent
to
grant
Drive
or
16th
Avenue,
north
and
yeah
I
didn't
know
sure
if
we
actually
ended
up
calling
about
that's.
Why
I
wanted
to
read
a
bit
like
what
Shane
said
so.
A
I
A
I
I
And
another
nice
reason
with
the
private
road
and
not
and
having
the
access
points
on
public
right-of-ways
is
that
garbage
truck
or
snow
removal
equipment
isn't
going
in
there
and
breaking
up
their
private
road
and
then
those
people
having
the
expectation
that
we'll
a
city
did
it,
so
the
state
should
fix
it
so
and
it
is
at
least
you
know
it's
not
such
a
long
distance,
but
it
does
add
a
hassle,
but
that's
where
they
are.
They
know
that
going
into
it
when
they
buy
the
lot
from
the
title.
I
My
I
think,
as
far
as
because
of
the
public
right
of
ways
and
whatnot,
is
that
what
like
the
improvements
to
those
I
think
those
are
still
taking
care
of
what
the
first
edition.
But
then
this
would
just
be
because
you
know
they're
only
planning
within
the
the
lot
lines
are
within
the
right-of-way.
So
then.
I
Yep-
and
we
can
verify
that
again
with
Matt
just
to
make
sure
but
and
that's
kind
of
a
nice
thing
too,
with
how
we're
gonna
go
about
bringing
these
to
Planning
Commission.
So
then
we
can
get
all
these
out
before
we
would
bring
it
to
Council
and
have
them
so
we'll
we'll
make
sure
that
we
verify
that
nothing
is
being
rescinded,
because.
C
E
J
E
J
A
I
I
On
the
top,
I
do
have
new
business
too,
and
more
so
of
a
clarification.
I
know
when
we
talked
about
second
Street
in
that
vacation
that
you
guys
were
wanting
heads
up
on
things
in
the
hopper,
and
we
do.
We
do
have
another
request.
But
as
far
as
how
far
do
you
want
us
to
go
with
those
I
mean
if
it
it's
not
an
improved
right
away,
that
the
next
petition
is
for.
I
Me
well:
okay,
well,
I
just
wanted
clarification
because
I
know
what
you
guys
wanted
more
time
to
prepare
to
you
know
so,
then
you
were
able
to
so.
If
we
brought
it
up
as
a
new
business
that
we
have
this
vacation
in
the
hopper
and
then
you
guys
had
time
to
ask
staff
questions
and
get
the
answers
that
you
needed
before
you
were
first
told
of
it
at
a
public
hearing
now.
Do
you
want
that
to
be
just
the
policy
going
forward
that
we
have
with
vacations
or
I?
E
Q
I
A
I
N
I
E
It's
a
little
bit
different
depending
on
the
type
of
vacation.
If
it's,
some
of
them
vacating
an
old
part
of
an
alley
or
I'm
vacating
a
public
right
away.
That's
never
been
developed
as
one
thing:
vacating
a
street,
that's
already
urban
gutter
and
it's
being
utilized
and
those
types
of
things
I'll
leave
it
an
ear
call.
You
know
how
you
guys
want
to
approach
but
I
think
depending
there's
different
levels
of
vacation,
yeah
and
and.
I
We
always
discuss,
we
have
a
staff
meeting
where
it
can
be
a
group
effort
to
decide
if
this
is
something
that
will
that
needs
a
little
more
I
mean
and
that's
what
we
did
was
second
straight
and
we
did
send
out.
You
don't
need
to
send
out
mailings
to
adjacent
landowners,
but
to
keep
them
informed.
We
did
and
then
so
things
like
that
we
can
just
discuss
us
stuff
and
then,
if
it's
something
where
we
want
to
give
you
guys
a
heads
up,
we
can
bring
it
up
as
new
business.