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From YouTube: Plan Commission Meeting 12 20 2018
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Plan Commission agenda for December 20, 2018
B
A
And
then
before
I
take
the
roll
call.
We
do
have
some
new
members
and
so
Megan
Olsen
resigned
from
the
Planning
Commission.
So
in
her
place,
then
Diana
Ford
will
be
a
member
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
Board
of
Adjustment.
Same
thing
goes
with
Megan
resigning
from
Board
of
Adjustment
as
well,
and
then
so
now,
Bonnie,
let's
key
will
be
the
first
alternate
for
both
boards
and
then
we
also
are
welcoming
Jeff
brink,
as
the
second
alternate
so
and
Jeff
is
here
with
us
today.
So
now,
I'll
go
on
with
the
roll
call
Hansen
here.
C
A
C
C
A
A
B
All
right
moving
on
item
1
invitation
for
public
comment
participants,
the
middle
we'll
have
a
place
later
on
for
open
public
comments.
If
you're
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
an
item,
that's
not
on
the
agenda
today.
Item
2
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
Can
I
get
a
motion
motion
by
Stein?
Second
by
Hansen,
all
in
favor
all
opposed
motion
passes
item
3
on
the
agenda?
Is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
December
6
2018
meeting
need
a
motion.
D
B
A
This
is
similar
to
what
you
guys
have
seen
earlier
in
the
year
for
the
Gulf,
the
plat
of
Gulf,
the
estates
12th
edition,
where
we
also
update
the
preliminary
plan
for
this
area.
So
why
it
is
before
you
today
is.
There
are
six
Lots
being
plaited
which
make
kicks
it
out
of
the
minor
flat
or
the
minor
plat
category,
and
then
also
just
to
note.
There
were
requirements
that
we
that
the
preliminary
plan
where
it
was
approved
conditionally
as
long
as
within
two
years
that.
A
The
art
within
the
three
years,
the
developer,
shall
replace
the
existing
15
inch
cmp
culvert,
with
a
15
inch,
RCP
culvert
with
flared
ends
on
both
sides.
The
developer
shall
install
an
overflow
structure
concurrent
to
the
replacement
of
the
culvert,
a
deed
restrictions
shall
be
submitted
and
recorded
for
the
detention
pond
area
and
the
berm
shown
on
lot.
E
A
Thanks,
okay,
so
the
berm
starts
here
on
this
corner
of
a
lot
22
and
then
it
runs
down
on
black
too
and
then
actually
down
into
here,
where
this
is
where
that
culvert
is
so
when
the
per
limit.
When
we
looked
at
that
at
during
the
preliminary
plan
stage,
we
just
didn't
want
it
encroaching
into
lot
22,
so
it
was
never
obstructed
where
the
homeowner,
whoever
purchases
a
lot
22,
would
do
anything
to
manipulate
the
berm
and
then
because
that
berm
is
serving
for
the
detention
of
the
entire
neighborhood.
F
They
typically
want
to
do
something
with
that
area
of
their
land
at
some
point
in
the
future,
whether
it's
two
years
or
20
years
from
now,
and
then
we
as
staff,
have
to
go
back
and
explain
no
there's
restrictions
because
of
the
easement,
so
that
modification
of
the
lot
line
would
really
help
clean
all
that
up
and
eliminate
the
need
to
explain
those
things
later.
The
future
property
owners.
D
A
A
But
a
lot
itself
is
228
feet
wide
and
80
feet
long,
so
I
mean
looking
at
it,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
exact
square
footage
would
be,
but
the
lot
itself
is
twenty
two
thousand
and
eight
hundred
and
fifty
five
square
feet.
So
it's
already
I
mean
this
is
zoned
r1
single-family
residential,
which
the
minimum
lot
size
requirement
is
nine
thousand
square
feet.
So
it's
double
that,
and
so
it
won't
make
it
a
non-conforming
lot
and
it'll
still
be
able
to
adhere
to
their
setback
requirements.
It.
B
D
B
Think
that's
a
that's
a
good
idea,
though
I
mean
compared
to
what
we
had
had
before
we.
You
know
we
had
the
conditional
use
or
the
criteria
that
it
would.
It
would
have
the
easement
along
that
to
cover
that
berm
area,
but
moving
the
property
line
over
would
serve
the
same
purpose
and
be
a
little
bit
cleaner.
G
A
A
Developer
will
own
it
perpetually
so
and
I
calculated
it
if
it
is
about
30
feet,
it'll
be
about
1400
square
feet
that
they'll
be
losing,
but
it'll
make
it
cleaner
for
when
they
do
buy
it,
that
they're
not
upset
that
they
have
this
berm,
that
they
would
like
to
flatten,
and
then
they
find
out
that
they're
paying
taxes
on
an
a
berm.
That's
protecting
the
entire
neighborhood,
so
yeah.
D
B
D
A
A
F
F
A
F
F
Neighborhood
detention
was
part
of
the
conversation
and
considerations
here.
I
would
say
it
is
uncommon
to
see
part
of
a
detention
pond
or
detention
cell
burn,
more
swale
or
whatever
it
might
be
being
covered
into
one
of
the
private
Lots
being
planted.
So
that
was
another
thing.
One
of
the
considerations
we
wanted
to
give
to
this
is.
A
B
In
other
areas,
we've
done
some
parks.
You
know
we're
looking
at
Eastwood's
the
other
day
and
that's
that's
kind
of
serves
as
attempted
detention
pond
and
as
a
park.
You
know
for
that.
Neighborhood
community
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
the
stance
is
on
each
of
the
developments,
but
in
in
some
cases
we
do
take
on
some
of
that
property
and.
A
B
A
A
A
D
Are
you
going
to
put
something?
This
is
just
me
thinking
off
the
cuff,
like
in
50
years
from
now,
someone
comes
along
and
says
you
know:
I
really
want
to
fill
that
in
and
develop
it
is
there
any
way
that
something
that
we
can
put
in
writing,
or
will
it
be
in
writing
that
that
can
never
happen
there?
It.
A
B
H
A
A
The
revisions
these
revisions
are
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
to
be
included
in
the
plan,
so
to
make
reference
to
the
sewer
or
water
territory
for
annexation
purposes
within
the
designated
area.
Consider
a
pedestrian
transportation
to
parks
and
residential
areas
and
within
city
parks,
updates
side.
Sidewalk
plan
include
the
lake
campus.
A
B
A
Good
so
then
for
the
Park
Board
and
Planning
Commission
meeting
some
takeaways
there
were
that
concept
plan
should
be
brought
to
the
park
board
so
that
they
are
able
to
evaluate
the
subdivision
and
proposed
park
location
prior
to
a
developer.
Committing
extensive
engineering
that
comes
forth
in
the
preliminary
plan
stage,
which
is
when
the
park
board
has
historically
been
approached,
amend
title
14
to
clarify
park,
dedication
requirements
which
should
also
be
consistently
reflected
in
the
subdivision
regulations
in
title
24
and
then
add
language
stating
the
distance.
B
A
And
that
just
needs
to
be
cleaned
up
quite
a
bit,
because
it's
so
vague
right
now,
where
it
says
that
it
has
that
it
should
be
done
dedicated
or
money
accepted
at
cash
in
lieu
at
the
time
of
annexation
or
master
planning,
which
we
don't
even
refer
to
anything
as
master
planning.
And
we
would
not
know
what
the
use
of
the
land
would
be
at
time
of
annexation.
So
we
need
to
just
all
be
on
the
same
page
with
what
our
intentions
are
for
park,
dedication,
requirements
and
then
just
spell
it.
The
ordinance
perfect.
E
A
A
A
Right,
okay,
yeah
cuz
loose
been
working
on
this
document
for
quite
a
while.
So
there's
some
outdated
information
heck.
He
was
probably
he
was
still
updating
it.
When
Jeff
was
in
my
position
and
if
yeah,
if
you
guys
didn't
know
that
too,
if
you
don't
and
I
don't
know,
if
you
guys
were
here
or
not,
but
Jeff
was
the
previous
urban
planner
so
forgot
that
little
tidbit.
A
On
to
meeting
four,
and
so
that
these
sections
covered
the
redevelopment
area
and
we
talked
about
the
Millat
redevelopment
area,
the
Lincoln
redevelopment
area
and
the
magic
mile
redevelopment
area.
So
for
milette
we
talked
about
brownfield,
designation
and
identification
of
known
areas
and
we
directed
Luke
to
reach
out
to
Sioux
Falls
and
include
language
on
how
to
handle
redevelopment
near
railroads
where
they're,
seeing
where
their
downtown
is
redeveloping
and
how
that's?
How
they're
dealing
with
Brown.
A
So
then
it's
contaminated
soil
so
that,
in
that
Millette
area,
I
think
in
close
to
our
railroads
too,
there
could
be
potential
brownfield,
so
we
had
talked
about
if
we
would
actually
identify
where
those
areas
are
and
then
it's
something
to
for
people
to
take
into
consideration
when
they're
redeveloping
and
what
what
that
would
entail,
because
what
sometimes
they
have
to
what
dig
it
up.
You
thought
yeah,
that's!
Basically
the.
F
B
A
E
B
B
A
A
So
it
seemed
appropriate
to
do
that
with
its
proximity
to
commercial
and
industrial
with
it
being
because
then,
the
railroads
for
glacial
lake
centered,
the
glacial
lakes,
energy,
is
right
to
the
east
of
that
property
and
then
for
the
magic
mile
which
is
highway
212
to
refer
to
the
d-o-t
or
reference
to
do.
T,
coordination
and
transportation
planning
as
construction
completes
for
the
reconstruction
of
highway
212
and
that
three-phase
project.
C
B
Of
rolls
into
the
the
new
business
that
you
have
here
on
the
agenda
with
the
prioritization
for
next
year,
but
some
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
is
the
new
districts
that
could
potentially
fit
in
some
of
these
areas,
and
so
you
know
I,
guess,
depending
on
how
we
prioritize
these,
we
may
want
to
make
sure
or
preclude
some
of
them
from
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan
depending
on
which
direction
we
go.
You
know
if
we
want
to
start
looking
at
campus
and
civic
use
and
mixed-use
districts
and
make
sure
when.
A
They're
addressed
right
and
he
does
address
them
and
they
are.
That
would
be
the
model
ordinance
amendments
that
we
would
go
from
now.
They
might,
they
might
change
slightly
and
all
when
work
taking
it
through
the
whole
public
process,
but
at
least
it's
kind
of
our
our
starting
point
and
we
would
take.
We
would
use
that
information
so
I
and
he
doesn't
get
too
in-depth
with
it
just
mentions
kind
of
what
they're
why
it
would
be
beneficial
and
then
how
it
would
be
used
and
implemented,
but
it
doesn't
get
specific.
A
A
B
A
A
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
Brandy,
I'll
pass
this
back
over
brandy
in
a
second
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
little
bit
of
an
opening
statement
and
background
some
of
the
and
just
for
the
planning
commissioners
knowledge.
Some
of
the
information
that
you
guys
do
not
review
such
as
commercial
site
plans
that
we
were
just
reviewing
and
do
the
building
permit
administrative
Lea
for
a
lot.
F
That's
been
plaited
and
and
there's
no
reason
for
it
to
come
to
you
guys,
but
we
have
tried
to
streamline
that
process
and
put
protocol
in
place
to
help
that
submit
all
the
application
and
the
information
that's
requested.
At
that
time.
We've
compiled
some
documents
some
checklists
and
protocol
there,
for
that,
so
try
to
tweak
things
and
one
of
the
measures
that
we're
also
trying
to
make
I
feel
like
goes
in
line
with
this
prioritization,
rather
than
taking
a
shotgun
approach
it.
F
How
we
continually
improve
our
processes
and
and
our
regulations
and
how
we
administer
them
and
what
they
say
and
what
they
require.
We
wanted
to.
You
know
take
a
more
targeted
approach
to
that,
because
it
does
get
overwhelming
when
we
look
at
the
list,
and
so
we
thought
we'd
share
with
with
you
folks,
with
the
Planning
Commission
this
evening.
What
some
of
those
items
are
they're
hanging
out
there
yet
to
be
done
and
then
get
it
targeted
approach
with
them
on
how
to
move
forward.
So
what
we've
done?
F
Randy
and
I
and
Colin
have
looked
at
this
list
of
just
shy
of
a
dozen
items.
I
think
and
I
have
a
few
recommended
low-hanging
fruit
items
and
then
some
targeted
ones
we
seen
as
staff
is
what
might
be
the
next
logical
steps
to
take
and
making
some
of
these
improvements,
and
so
Randy
I'll
ever
go
down
that
list
with
you
share
what
our
recommendations
are
and
by
all
means
and
does
the
Planning
Commission
have
a
copy
that
list
Randy,
yep,
okay
and
by
all
means,
if
you
guys
have
other
ideas
from
what
we've
proposed.
A
So
we
did
know
that
we
would
have
to
come
back
at
a
later
date
and
then
address
other
other
parts
of
the
sign
code,
ordinance
and
then
group
homes
or
license
residential
treatment,
homes
and
resorts
so
from
our
evaluation.
The
top
three
priorities
and
one
of
them
is
involved
because
it's
a
low
hanging
fruit
that
we've
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
on
and
I
think
that
we're
pretty
close
to
having
coming
to
a
conclusion
with
that
one.
A
So
it
would
be
the
mixed
use
district
and
that's
just
kind
of
the
trend
of
development,
so
that
we
have
something
that
people
can
utilize
without
having
to
have
a
pewdie
plan
which
is
similar
to
a
building
permit
about
how
technical
they
it
has
to
be
when
you
guys
are
rezoning
a
property
to
be
PUD,
which
is
a
Planned
Unit
development.
This.
A
A
B
A
B
A
A
B
G
B
A
Yeah
well,
and
it
eliminates
a
lot
of
variances
that
you
guys
see
as
the
Board
of
Adjustment
and
that's
something
too
that
we
had
talked
about
at
the
meeting
yesterday
over
the
lunch
hour
and
trying
to
take
to
address
those
various
requests
that
we're
seeing
consistently
and
try
to
change
the
ordinance,
because,
obviously
something
isn't
working.
If
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
variance
requests
so
and
then
number
three
would
be
the
title,
14
ordinance
amendment,
and
that
is
that
Park
dedication,
because
it's
been
such
a
struggle.
A
This
especially
this
last
year
for
sure
about
what
we're
getting
for
Park
dedication,
I
feel
like
now.
The
Planning,
Commission
and
Park
Board
are
on
the
same
page
and
that
we'll
be
able
to
work
together
cohesively
and
then,
but
as
long
as
we
get
just
in
the
ordinance
where
it's
very
clear
about
when
and
where
and
what
time.
When
I
said.
That
is
we're
getting
the
park.
Dedication.
B
When
I
don't
see
on
here
that
we've
also
talked
about
during
the
comprehensive
land-use
review
would
be
a
Lake
District.
Okay,
you
know
I
know
I
know,
Lucas
talked
about
it
with
us,
everybody
on
the
board,
has
you
know,
and
and
in
the
city
staff
realizes
that
that
has
been
a
an
area
that
needs
some
attention
so
sooner
or
later
we're
gonna
have
to
address
that
one
as
well.
It
was
probably
not
a
top
three
priority,
but
you.
A
Know,
I
I
think
that
that
is
a
really
important
one
too
and
I'm
actually
surprised
that
I
forgot
it
and
it
will
we'll
be
addressing
that
as
the
the
lake
campus
come.
A
stir
plan
rolls
out.
They've
made
some
helpful
recommendations
there
and
it
kind
of
goes
hand
in
hand
with
the
resorts,
because
we've
been
trying
to
handle
the
resorts
as
a
way
to
get
a
commercial
use
within
the
r-1
single-family
district,
and
that
that
we
need
a
lot
more
public
engagement
on,
because
it
would
be
such
a
change
in
that
district.
A
If
that
use,
if
somebody
would
they
would
come
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment
and
ask
for
the
conditional
use
and
the
board
would
go
through
the
requirements
and
make
sure
that
the
lot
is
conforming
and
everything,
but
it's
it
would
be
impactful
for
the
neighbors
for
the
especially
adjacent.
So
we
want
to
be
cautious
of
that
and
still
protect
that
their
property
rights
and
so
how
they
had
kind
of
proposed
it.
A
Where
that
we
would
rezone
lake
properties
to
r1l,
and
then
obviously
we
do
have
some
commercially
zoned
areas
where
maybe
they'll
be
redeveloped,
and
then
also
there
are
some
undeveloped
land
that
are
is
zoned
commercial.
So
maybe
that
can
be
developed
as
commercial
instead
of
having
to
go
in-
and
you
know
retrofit
these
single-family
homes
into
something
commercial,
because
it
is
something
that
is
an
a
want.
I
mean
people
express
that
during
this
whole
process
of
to
have
some
commercial
uses
on
lake
campus
go
so
they
kind
of
go
hand
in
hand.
A
A
We've
had
we've
gotten
feedback,
so
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
us
having
some
time
in
our
schedules
and
if
that
you
know
to
prioritize
really
to
get
these
things,
because
these
are
things
that
came
up
in
2018
now
we're
gonna
start
a
new
year
and
we're
gonna
leave
this
just
going
to
keep
adding.
So
we
want
to
be
efficient
and
getting
these
things
resolved.
A
B
G
A
And-
and
then
just
you
know,
we
can
check
in
here
and
there
and
you
guys
have
the
list
too,
and
we
can.
We
can
add
this
somehow,
so
it
can
be
kind
of
an
interactive
document
as
well.
Where,
then,
you
guys
can
say
like
hey,
it's
March
and
we
haven't
seen
any
of
these.
What
are
you
doing
or
that
you
want?
If
you
want
something
expedited
yeah.
B
F
B
Sounds
good
to
me,
you
know
the
other
districts
that
weren't
weren't
addressed
as
top
priorities.
The
campus,
the
Civic
use
the
lake
district
it'd
be
good
to
see
those
districts,
probably
sooner
rather
than
later,
in
conjunction
with
the
comprehensive
land
use
plans,
since
they're
gonna
be
called
out
in
in
that
document,
at
least
you
know
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
in
line
with
the
release
and
approval
of
that
document,
but
shortly
thereafter
would
certainly
be
nice
to
have
that
all
fleshed
out.
E
Again,
pardon
me
for
talking
about
the
sign
code,
one
but
Matt.
Maybe
you
can
refresh
my
memory,
but
when
we
completed
the
sign
code,
you
know
two
years
of
meetings
on
just
earlier
this
year
when
it
was
finally
approved
by
the
City
Council
I.
Don't
remember
in
two
years
of
sitting
there
in
meetings
that
we
bypassed
billboards,
you
know
what
they
intend
to
come
back
to
it
later.
Can
you
help
me
out
there
freshman
Moran,
that.
E
From
what
Randy
was
saying
that
there
was
something
that
we
were
gonna
have
to
go
back
to
revisit
because
of
content-neutral
I.
Don't
remember
specifically
having
that
discussion
or
making
that
decision
as
part
of
the
sign
code,
primarily
because
it
already
is
signed
content-neutral,
it's
not
location
neutral,
but
that's
not
an
issue
with
Gilbert
versus
Reed,
which
is
the
whole
content-neutral
thing
and
in
my
understanding
and
that's
why
I'm
asking
if
we
need
to
revisit
it
for
the
purposes
that
I?
That
idea.
My.
H
Understanding
is
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
it
currently
reads
whether
or
not
it
violates
Gilbert,
but
I
know
that
there
was
some
thought
in
the
city
that
about
potentially
limiting
billboards,
and
so
that
was
the
reason.
I
think
that
the
the
idea
was
brought
to
the
committee
and
if
I
recall,
it
was
kind
of
brought
towards
the
end
of
those
discussions
and
the
thought
was:
let's
get
past
what
we've
already
agreed
to
and
then
we
can
address
billboards
down
the
road.
A
And
that
so
that's
what
we
would
have
to
address
and
then
also
with
the
sign
Code
Board
of
Appeals,
that
the
for
actually
for
Stein
sign
the
allowing
the
electronic
message
Center
be
larger
than
normal,
I,
think
that
was
the
variance
so
and
because
in
the
they
justified
it
because
of
how
its
distance
from
the
right-of-way
so
for
visually,
so
that
you
can
see
it
I
mean
it
makes
sense.
So,
but
then
to
just
add
that
so
it's
consistent.
So
we
don't
have
to
have
a
variance
for
that.
A
A
G
H
I
think
that
was
the
idea
is
that
we've
done
all
this
work
and
got
to
a
point
where
we
have
a
product
that
we
can
put
in
front
of
the
council
to
approve-
let's
not
let
that
fall
to
the
wayside.
While
we
argue
about
something
new,
let's
get
that
solidified
and
then
we
can
start
arguing
about
something
new
I
think
that
was
the
thought
on
that
mm-hmm.
B
A
H
I
would
say
just
as
far
as
the
location
and
the
off-premise
I
think
there
is
some
debate
still
in
the
legal
community,
whether
or
not
there
yet
the
assign
sign
codes
do
have
to
be
content-neutral.
Yes,
you
shouldn't
have
to
read
the
sign
to
know
whether
it
violates
the
law,
yes,
but
in
in
regards
to
off-premise
you're,
looking
at
the
sign,
seeing
if
it
matches
the
building
that
it's
that
it's
next
to
I
think
there's
a
there's.
E
Fair
enough
that
was
talked
about
at
the
the
signed
code,
committees
and
I.
Think
again,
my
recollection
of
the
decision
at
that
time
was
that,
because
there
were
some
pending
cases-
and
there
was
some
gray
area
that
Watertown
didn't
necessarily
need
the
one
be
the
one
to
blaze.
The
trail
in
that
and
waiting
for
some
of
these
for
the
further
court
cases
to
be
decided
for
again
providing
some
light.
Shall
we
say
on
the
subject
and
I:
don't
know
that
that
we'd
have
that
yet,
but
I
don't.
E
E
I
C
I
Of
the
reason
for
wanting
to
look
at
the
billboard
regulations
is
that
we're
about
to
reconstruct
highway
212
through
our
town,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
billboards
that
will
be
affected
and
they'll
be
moved.
So
if
we
are
about
to
change
our
regulation
or
if
we're
considering
changing
it
in
the
future,
we
should
try
to
get
that
done
before
the
changes
are
made.
So
we're
not
looking
at
brand
new
billboards
being
out
of
compliance
with
what
we
want
for
our
ordinance
and
that
the
ordinance
has
frustrated
people.
I
I
Do
and
if
we
don't
have
the
stomach
for
it,
we
don't
have
the
stomach
for
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
sit
on
it
and
then
go.
Oh
there's
the
212
project.
Guess
we
missed
that
boat?
Let's
look
at
it
now
and
decide
if
we
want
to
make
a
change
or
not
because
it
is
complicated
and
it's
controversial,
and
there
are
plenty
of
folks
that
have
told
us,
as
elected
officials,
to
clean
that
up
and
I've
been
asked
on
many
occasions.
I
Can't
we
do
something
about
it.
It's
you
know,
there's
no
conformity
or
consistency
big
little
up
high
down
low
they're
all
over
the
place,
and
if
we're
okay
with
that
as
a
community
I
guess
we
don't
need
to
do
anything.
But
if
we-
and
there
are
quite
a
few
people
that
would
like
to
change
it,
we
guess
we
need
to
decide
if
we
want
to
move
forward
with
that
or
not
because
we
we
are
going
to
miss
the
boat
very
soon
and
that
you
know
the
the
projects
coming
in
a
couple
phases.
I
I
But
the
the
billboard
part
has
has
been
controversial
and
set
aside
because
it
was
a
hot
potato
and
we
didn't
want
it
to
bog
everything
else
down,
so
we
did
kind
of
like
okay,
let's
just
move
it
aside,
get
what
we
can
all
agree
on
done
and
then
come
back
and
that's
that's
where
we
are,
as
are
we
going
to
come
back
or
we
not
because
this
212
project
is
not
going
to
wait
for
our
sign
consideration.
What.
B
A
H
B
I
Agree,
I
think
if
we
just
let
it
sit
and
let
it
let
that
212
project
happen
where
most
of
our
billboards
in
our
town
exist.
We
are
really
acting
by
not
acting
we're
going
it's
okay,
the
way
it
is,
and
maybe
that's
what
the
community
feels,
but
I
do
think
that
we
separated
the
billboards
out
because
of
the
controversial
nature,
and
we
didn't
want
it
to
wreck
everything
else.
That
sign
code
has
been
such
a
challenge
for
our
community
and
it's.
I
It
hasn't
been
easy
any
step
of
the
way
and
people
resign
on
both
sides
of
the
issue.
So
we
as
a
community
should
come
together
and
not
try
to
cram
anything
down
throats
but
to
come
to
an
agreement
on
what
we
think
is
appropriate
for
our
community
and
you're,
a
big
part
of
that
as
the
Planck
mission
you're
there
to
provide
guidance
and
input.
So
the
that's
why
the
plan
Commission
should
weigh
in
on
this
very
carefully
yeah.
H
You
know
if
the
mayor,
if
you
have
an
idea
about
what
you
may
like
to
see
this
a
starting
point,
because
if
we
just
come
together
as
a
group
and
then
go
okay,
what
do
we
think
about
billboards
that
may
not?
We
may
not
get
anywhere,
and
so,
even
if
the
plan
Commission
wants
them,
you
know
express
opinions,
be
a
good
good
place
to
have
a
good
good
to
have
a
starting
point
to
start
the
discussion
you
know
so
Mary
did
you
have
specific
I?
Don't.
I
Have
an
opinion,
I
I,
have
to
admit:
I
have
not
taken
an
active
role
in
that
I've
received
lots
of
comments
and
people
urging
me
to
take
it
up,
and
it's
I
have
to
admit
that
it's
with
great
trepidation,
because
I
I've
seen
the
controversy
and
I
don't
really
have
in
my
mind
an
idea
of
what
I
think
is
right
or
good,
but
I
acknowledge
that
people
think
what
we
have
isn't
working
and
we
should
improve
it.
So
I'm
willing
to
take
that
forward
and
try
and
Shepherd
that
through
I
think
we
should
and.
B
H
Might
be
a
good
idea,
I
mean
if
there
was
folks
that
may
have
explicitly
expressed
this
idea
of
you
to
get
some
of
those
folks
involved.
If
they're
willing
didn't
have
a
strong
opinion
about
it,
and
then
we
can
bring
together
the
survey
design,
company
community
and
as
well
as
opponents
and
then
just
see
where
everybody's
at
and
see,
if
there's
even
a
path
forward
right.
I
And,
and
even
if
it's
you
know,
every
everybody
that
exists
is
grandfathered,
but
anything
new
moving
forward
will
have
these
other
criteria
and
we
can
agree
as
a
community.
That's
what
we
want.
This
is
our
ordinances
are
written
and
it's
ultimately
the
Board
of
Adjustment.
Then
that
has
to
enforce
that
when
people
go,
please
don't
make
me
do
that
they're,
asking
you
for
a
variance
and
if
you've
just
passed
a
code-
and
you
say
this
is
what
we
want.
That's
got
to
be
something
you're
willing
to
enforce
and
that's
the
challenge
so.
F
F
From
a
staffing
standpoint,
this
is
all
great
background
information
for
me
not
having
been
familiar
with
what
our
sign
code
discussions
we're
prior
to
me
coming
here,
but
having
experience
and
assisting
and
rewriting
sign
code
in
previous
communities,
every
community
does
it
differently
from
so
from
a
staffing
standpoint.
We
were
glad
to
help
Shepherd
shepherd
these
discussions
with
the
committee,
a
subcommittee
and
do
any
potential
research
that
we
might
want
to
do
based
out
of
those
discussions
that
come
out
of
that
committee.
F
You
know
how
other
communities
might
handle
certain
talking
points
that
we
bring
up
in
that
committee
a
lot
of
times.
That
is
helpful
in
those
discussions
to
explore
what
the
options
are
on,
how
to
how
to
potentially
handle
an
issue
that
we're
faced
with
and
so
from
a
staffing
standpoint.
We've
been
more
happy
to
to
Shepherd
this
along
and
add
it
to
our
I'd
say
it
sounds
like
one
of
our
top
three
now
BAM
your
top
four
considering
the
highway
212
work.
That's
it's
coming
soon,
I!
Don't.
C
Yeah
they're
they're
hoping
to
get
it
Latin
February!
It's
it's
not
like
it's
not
on
the
wedding
schedule
yet
for
the
state,
but
they're
hopeful
hoping
to
get
it
let
in
February,
and
that
would
be
for
highway
22
highway
81.
That
would
be
the
the
piece
that
they
build
next
summer
and
then
it'll
be
two
years
after
that
they're
planning
on
going
from
highway
81
to
19th
Street.