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From YouTube: Board of Adjustment & Plan Commission Meeting 12 6 2018
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Board of Adjustment & Plan Commission agenda for December 6 2018
B
C
A
B
The
definition
of
bar
tavern
is
any
establishment,
including
restaurants
and
gambling
establishments
licensed
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages
for
consumption
upon
the
premises
were
sold
or
provided
the
term
bar
or
tavern
shall
also
include
establishments
licensed
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages
for
consumption
off
the
premises
were
sold.
This
board
is
to
determine
if
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
exists
regarding
the
following
section:
21
o
202,
to
be
7a
through
eight
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses.
B
This
includes
ingress
and
egress
off
street
parking
loading
screening,
buffering,
signage,
exterior
lighting
required
yards
and
open
spaces
and
general
compatibility
with
the
neighbourhood
section.
2.0
102
location
is
actually
exempt
from
this
risk
location.
This
is
an
exempt
restriction,
so
we
don't
need
to
consider
that
chapter
21,
63
off
street
parking
and
loading
requirements
and
engineering
design
standards
information
was
not
provided,
tutoring
determining
the
number
of
existing
off
street
parking
spaces
and
aisles,
but
the
building
official
is
confident
that
this
meets
all
requirements:
chapter
21,
65,
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
specific
uses.
B
There
is
no
request
for
any
out
of
the
ordinary
display
or
storage
on
this
application:
chapter
21,
73,
landscape
and
lighting
standards.
This
property
lacks
interior
landscape
tree
requirements
where
tree
islands
originally
existed
in
the
front
north.
Currently
there
are
none.
One
island
strip
remains
in
the
rear,
southwest
corner
420
170
304
for
screening
dumpsters,
all
outside
dumpsters
or
other
garbage
receptacles
on
the
site
shall
be
screened
by
an
opaque
fence
or
wall.
Many
of
the
walls
that
originally
existed
for
screening
the
dumpsters
have
been
removed.
B
There
were
originally
I
will
show
you
a
site
plan.
You
actually
have
one
in
front
of
you
from
1977
we'll
get
to
that
titles,
518,
21
and
24
sidewalk
trail
curb
and
gutter
and
subdivision
of
land.
The
owner
applicant
agrees
to
bind
Lots
1
&
2
&
8,
together
with
a
development
lot
agreement.
So
we
will
be
doing
this
if
approved,
staff
was
originally
unable
to
locate
the
original
set
of
plans
for
the
Watertown
mall
facility,
showing
the
originally
approved
parking
loading,
sidewalks,
trees
for
the
interior
and
the
frontage,
Islands
lighting,
etc.
B
We
did
find
a
site
plan.
This
is
what's
in
front
of
you
there.
It's
not
easy
to
read
it
copies
off
very
blurry,
it's
circa
1977.
However.
The
landscape
plan,
a
schedule
which
would
have
showed
some
of
these
things
like
trees
and
Islands,
could
not
be
found.
This
board
must
determine
if
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
has
been
made.
Concerning
these
chapters
and
titles
and
sections
discussed,
this
part
of
parcel
lacks
minimum
interior,
Boulevard
infrastructure,
trees,
sidewalk
trail
requirements,
if
generally
endorsed
the
board,
may
consider
conditions
of
approval
such
as
fulfillment
of
any
are
all
lacking.
A
A
B
This
is
much
like
the
Shriver
Square
that
we
did
in
recent
times
here.
Right
now,
senior
max
is
I
think
the
only
operation
that
holds
a
liquor
license
mr.
T's
used
to
be
in
there.
The
thing
is,
is
we
could
not
staff
couldn't
find
any
proof
of
having
gone
through
this
board
to
first
get
this
use
approved
on
the
site?
They
couldn't
find
any
proof
of
that.
E
B
A
B
F
E
E
H
G
Well,
it
was
basically
in
case
somebody
wants
to
do
some
kind
of
a
yard
party
or
anything
else,
or
a
band
or
an
event
or
or
even
go
out
on
the
sidewalk
with
tables
and
chairs,
or
something
like
that.
It's
not
making
them
come
back
to
you
every
time,
because,
basically
we're
just
saying
the
ground
meets
the
requirements
for
a
liquor
license
and
that's
as
far
as
we're
taking
it
and
then
also
let
the
file
show
that
Liam
has
joined
us.
C
D
What
you'd
be
just
basically
and
then
we
put
out
a
deal
to
all
the
stores
if
they
do
not
want
somebody
in
there
with
a
beer
or
whatever
they,
then
they
will
put
signage
up.
Please
do
not
enter
our
store
with
it
with
with
the
alcohol
beverage
or
something
it's
basically
just
for
Thursday
night
life,
for
some
for
your
three
hours
of
playing
this
band
that
they
will
be
selling
the
beer
out
of
the
old
pretzel
maker
eye
area
in
Centre
Court,
where
the
people
sit
and
listen
to
the
band,
but.
C
F
But
it
would
only
oh
wow.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
unique
situation,
of
course,
when
we
have
one
mile
in
watertown,
but
already
in
normal,
so
the
footprint
that
it's
approved
on
the
liquor
license
end
for
the
interior,
so
in
this
case
chambers
gonna
come
forward
apply
for
a
malt
beverage
license
that
would
encompass
whatever
footprint
they've
decided
on.
It's
gonna
include
the
interior
of
the
mall,
as
well
as
any
businesses
that
also
are
okay
with
people
walking
into
those
businesses
with
alcohol.
F
So
anybody
that
purchases
alcohol
from
the
chamber
in
this
case
in
that
footprint
can
wander
around
in
that
footprint
with
alcohol,
just
as
if
it
was
a
bar,
because
basically
this
is
a
private
structure,
even
though
it
seems
kind
of
public
when
it's
a
private
structure,
people
that
purchase
alcohol
from
the
licensee
and
that
footprint
can't
walk
into
any
business.
That
said,
we
don't
want
you
to
be
a
part
of
that
footprint
and
also
can't
walk
in
any
business
where
there's
another
license.
D
F
D
F
A
F
Yeah
so
downtown
there's
a
we
do
what's
called
the
sidewalk
cafe
permit,
so
that's
a
little
bit
different
because
they're
actually
consuming
in
a
public
space,
and
we
have
the
sidewalk
cafe
permit
that
allows
them
to
basically
extend
their
footprint
into
the
public
space.
So
the
way
we
did
this
this
past
year
was
the
chamber
was
kind
of
the
organizer,
but
it
was
Tommy
Tommy's
lanes
his
license.
That
was
used
to
sell
alcohol
adjacent
to
their
their
license
premise.
E
Let's
take
that
public
space
a
step
further,
what
if
the
city
was
to
acquire
property
and
build
a
hockey
facility
out
there
in
the
public
space,
then
on
a
Thursday
night
or
any
no
one
asked
to
be
a
Thursday.
It
could
be
any
day
during
the
week
person
can
be
buying
a
beer
and
then
would
they
be
able
to
access
the
public
space.
Therefore,
during
a
hockey
tournament
with
beer.
F
H
A
C
G
I
G
F
If
I
understand
correctly,
the
license
will
not
include
the
current
vacant
space,
and
so
so,
according
to
that
hypothetical.
If
this
license
comes
forward
and
is
approved,
you
actually
want
to
include
her
burgers
or
JCPenney.
So
if,
if
JCPenney
was
torn
down
and
a
hockey
ring
and
was
put
there,
even
though
the
mall
itself,
the
dirt
is
blessed
as
Ken
saying,
there's
still
no
licensed
ability
for
a
beer
to
go
in
there
from
somewhere
else.
F
A
D
Well,
you
know,
like
you,
said
Tuesday
morning
or
Saturday
morning,
serving
beer
that
the
malls
not
gonna,
allow
that
we're
still
a
mall
with
stores
where
we
get
people
in
there.
It's
going
to
be
just
Thursday
night.
You
know
we're
not
gonna
allow
people
to
be
to
come
in
there
and
say
a
Saturday
morning
start
serving
beer.
It's
not
going
to
happen.
B
Much
excuse
me,
but
keep
in
mind
that
if
you
do,
if
you,
if
you
do,
approve
this,
what
you
know
it
could
be
on
sale,
it
could
be
off
sale.
It
could
be
a
hard
liquor,
whatever
whoever
goes
to
the
City
Council,
to
get
a
license
for
within
your
blessed
space,
because
that's
that's
what
you're
doing
is
you're
just
giving
the
okay
to
the
space
to
apply
for
the
licenses.
E
E
E
E
So
the
question
is
I
mean
you
know:
is
this
the
appropriate
place
to
attach
those
conditions
again,
as
I
mean
where's
the
Nexus
to
to
be
I,
understand
that
they're
not
they're
non-conforming,
it's
not
complying
with
the
ordinance
or
even
with
the
intent
of
the
original
permit.
But
is
this
the
time
that
you
would
be
going
about
requesting
all
those
things
to
be
brought
into
compliance?
So
we
can
have
eight
beer
events
over
the
course
of
the
winter
or
something.
J
I
B
D
A
D
Angels
attic
chasm
right
there
next
to
Penny's
in
that
cement
wall
and
then
plan
of
fitness
we'll
have
theirs
in
there
by
that
garage
door
where
that's
on
the
front
of
the
mall.
That's
in
a
Smith
wall
deals
and
then
there's
a
dumpsters
out
back
by
the
old
Kmart
area
and
then
I'll
back
by
where
mr.
T's
used
to
be
there's
two
dumpsters.
D
D
E
He's
behind
the
wall,
I
guess
my
opinion
on
the
matter
would
be
a
minimal
change
of
use
or
an
addition.
Change
use
I.
Don't
think
that
it
would
be
appropriate
to
attach
non-compliant
conditions
to
the
ordinance
if
we
were
looking
at
adding
on
demolition,
doing
some
major
construction,
where
there's
going
to
be
some
different
footprints
of
the
building.
That
would
maybe
be
the
more
appropriate
issue.
E
A
L
B
A
A
A
B
I
A
I
L
A
A
Should
I
call
pain
ii
by
Dargis
johnson.
All
in
favor
opposed
motion
passes.
Third
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
november
eighth
2018
meeting?
Have
a
motion
so
moved?
Why
should
I
call
in
second
Becca
targets?
Johnson.
All
in
favor
opposed
motion
passes
item
four.
Is
the
acceptance
of
the
2019
Board
of
Adjustment
plan
Commission
meeting
scheduled
so.
K
A
K
M
Mr.
chairman,
if
I
may,
yeah
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
this
middle
deadlines
are
in
accordance
with
subdivision
regulations
which
require
the
applicants
to
provide
us,
the
Middle's
at
least
20
days
prior
to
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
that
they
will
be
taken
to
so
those
those
dates
still
coordinate
with
that
requirement
from
the
subdivision
regulations.
Good.
A
K
A
N
N
We
are
back
to
actually
I'm
going
to
open
this
thing
to
hear
we're
back
to
where
we
were
just
a
few
short
months
ago
in
reviewing
the
land-use
plan
and
we've
gone
through
several
of
the
I'm
sorry
I'm
gonna
just
catch
myself
up
here
right
here,
we've
gone
through
a
handful
of
meetings.
Already
you
have
endured
three
to
four
hours,
probably
closer
to
five
hours.
Discussion
on
land-use
plan.
N
You've
at
this
point
read
through
a
couple
hundred
pages
of
land-use
plan
and
have
your
notes,
written
down
and
we've
gone
through
this
this
step
here,
where
we're
at
to
catch
you
up
and
I'm,
just
kind
of
trying
to
slowly
get
your
brain
back
into
gear
and
get
mine
into
gear.
To
with
where
we
are,
we've
been
talking
about
the
future
land-use
section,
which
is
frankly
the
big
tamale.
The
whole
reason
we're
here
with
the
land-use
plan,
as
I
said
in
the
previous
meeting,
it
was
split
into
two
sections.
Of
course,
just
stop
talking
topically.
N
We
went
through
that
a
little
bit
and
that's
generally,
how
we've
done
things
in
the
past
is
just
a
topical,
but
we
address
things
spatially
as
well
development
areas
in
town.
We
talked
about
development
areas
in
town
earlier
previous
meetings
about
information
there
and
then
split
them
into
redevelopment
areas
that
correspond
similarly
to
those
and
they
talked
about
residential
issues
as
well
as
commercial
issues.
There
are
not
industrial
issues
discussed
all
that
heavily
within
this
section,
because
we
addressed
a
little
more
spacial
review
in
the
in
the
categorical
description,
I
guess
so.
N
I'm
gonna
pick
up
where
we
left
off
and
unless
someone
remembers
differently,
I
have
marked
down
that
we
left
off
at
the
Jefferson
redevelopment
area
is
where
we
had.
We
spoke
about
Lake
Camp,
Asaka
redevelopment
area
and
McKinley
redevelopment
area,
kind
of
working,
our
way
west
to
east
and
we'll
kind
of
double
all
the
way
back
around
circle,
the
community
in
doing
that.
So,
as
we
said
the
last
time
there
are
the
way
it's
broken
up
is
is
just
is
just
having
recommendations
and
in
the
end
all
I
have
on
these
slides.
N
Here
are
just
the
recommendations
for
this
area:
more
specific
recommendations
into
there
and
so
for
the
Jefferson
redevelopment
area.
You
can
see
the
areas
in
the
colored
area
there.
That's
that's
the
area
we're
talking
about.
We
have.
We
have
just
from
a
general
standpoint,
the
recommendation
for
civic
and
campus
zoning
for
certain
areas
there,
including
but
not
limited
to
you-
could
include
Highland
Park,
the
Wellness
Center
and
Middle
School
Great
Plains,
Lutheran
Church
in
school,
our
Great
Plains,
Lutheran
School,
in
addition
to
other
parks
and
quasi
public
facilities.
N
N
We've
got
uses
going
on
at
some
of
these
places
that,
frankly,
would
generally
not
be
supported
and
in
the
underlying
district,
if
we
didn't
have
that,
so
that's
one
of
them,
the
other
reserve
areas
for
future
expansion
with
public
parks,
so
as
you
expand,
grow
into
these
areas
to
plan
for
where
you're
gonna
have
parks
into
these
areas.
The
other
part.
The
third
bullet
point
on
here,
is
to
identify
and
come
up
with
ways.
N
One
way
would
be
to
have
an
overlay
district,
or
there
would
be
some
specific
standards
for
decreasing
minimum
lot
area
requirements,
perhaps
even
setback
requirements
in
an
area.
You
can
see
the
areas
in
in
yellow
primarily
there,
especially
in
this
middle
stretch
here
in
this
middle
stretch,
here
kind
of
following
Highland
Boulevard
and
to
the
west
kind
of
in
this
heart
area.
Here
of
that,
and
it
it's
more
from
the
standpoint
that
this
is
I'd
call
it
medium
density,
single-family
residences,
it's
not
high
density.
N
I'll
move
into
the
other
portion
of
the
Jefferson
redevelopment
area,
which
is
one
commercial
stretch
that
we
have
in
there
as
well.
As
you
recall,
we
lumped
some
of
those
commercial
redevelopment
corridors
and
and
specifically
noted
some
of
the
things
going
on
on
the
ground
and
then
some
recommendations
into
there
and
obviously,
if
you
don't
like
them,
go
ahead,
and
let
me
know
if
you
think
we
missed
some
things
go
ahead
to
the
Jefferson
redevelopment
area
is
frankly
right.
Now
it's
has
evolved
into
most
the
most
restricted,
aesthetic
standards
of
any
commercial
redevelopment
area.
N
The
recommendation
here
is
that
this
would
be
an
opportunity
to
create
an
implement
in
office,
zoning
district,
which
would
be
modeled
after
the
existing
regulations
and
the
specific
use
office
buildings.
I
know
before
you've
heard
me
speak
at
meetings
in
which
you
have
that
specific
use
office,
building
use
in
which,
under
that
use,
you
have
eleven
different
uses,
I
believe
and
setback
standards,
as
well
as
sign
requirements
as
well
by
another
name.
That's
a
zoning
district
already.
So
the
bottom
line
is
you
at
all,
but
it's
all
but
created
the
difference.
There
is
the
office.
N
N
More
than
likely
yes,
I
mean
it
a
lot
of.
It
is
once
it's
once
it's
zoned
to
that,
and
but
you
really
have
the
door
tied
on.
It's
gonna
be
more
of
a
form
based
and
that's
going
to
be
form
based
and
you're
handling
your
where
you're
handling
your
parking
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
I've
got
pictures
later
on
of
examples
of
it.
But
that
just
kind
of
is
in
the
example.
Those
couple
of
them
and
again
adopting
a
land-use
plan
doesn't
guarantee
we're
going
to
do
it.
N
But
at
least
it's
got
the
door
open
to
do
so
because,
frankly,
the
specific
use
office
buildings,
the
was
listed
as
an
as
a
use,
even
that,
without
having
some
background
in
our
land
use
plan,
we
could,
at
the
minimum,
use
the
support
in
the
Land
Use
Plan.
Even
for
that
use
as
a
since.
So
is
there
anything
else
within
that
Jefferson
School
District
area
I
mean
you,
you
saw
what
it
was.
E
N
K
J
K
N
N
The
next
area
is
significantly
different.
The
the
next
redevelopment
area,
those
discussed,
is
what's
the
malaria
velopment
area,
which
corresponds
with
the
Millette
school
district.
This
is
we're
well
aware
of
this,
and
the
Roosevelt
School
District
compass
will
encompass
some
of
the
older
parts
of
our
town,
and
with
that
we've
got
smaller
Lots.
N
We
also
have
some
long-established
uses
and
that's
where
the
hospital
comes
in
here,
and
so
one
of
those
one
of
those
points
is
to
allow
for
growth
of
the
healthcare
campus
of
Prairie
likes
by
allowing
a
mix
of
uses
in
what
would
be
a
campus
sort
of
a
district
they'd
be
better
managed
in
a
district
of
that
sort
in
which
we
would.
We
would
just
essentially
name
the
sorts
of
uses
that
may
go
on
and
establish
how
far
off
the
property
lines
they
need
to
be
in
as
long
as
they
remain
in
those
parameters.
N
It
continues,
rather
than
have
to
revisit
a
rezoning
or
an
expansion
or
something
along
those
lines.
I
next
point:
that's
on
there
is
to
create
a
method
of
tracking
or
reviewing
and
performing
safety
inspections
on
single-family
residences
that
are
converted
to
multifamily
structures
as
a
buy-rite
use,
subject
to
certain
safety
and
parking.
N
This
is
something
that
is
that
an
option
on
that
is
to
have
a
occupancy
permit,
but
I
know
that
that
is
not
exactly
something
that
is
an
easy
transition
and
I'm
not
going
to
say
that
that's
what
this
is
doing,
but
I
it
does
need
to.
It
does
beg
the
question
because
we
do
as
we
find
our
land
use
survey.
This
is
an
area
where
we
have
a
lot
of
converted.
Single-Family
dwellings
turn
into
multifamily
here
and
then
to
the
south
of
it.
E
G
G
G
N
As
you
look
at
you
recall
just
a
handful
of
months
ago,
as
we
were
looking
through
the
the
existing
land
use
maps.
That's
where
I
had,
you
may
require
recall:
I
had
the
blue
and
purple
there
blue
and
pink
maps
that
were
up
there.
One
color
would
indicate
owner-occupied
versus
the
other
one
leased,
and
this
is
where
we're
seeing
more
of
more
of
the
least
in
some
of
those
cases,
and
and
a
lot
of
that
does
stem
from
from
some
rental,
but
they
are
also.
N
There
were
some
that
were
originally
set
up
as
well
as
rental
units.
You
know
there's
some
of
that
along
third,
for
example,
that
that
were
originally
set
up
so
bottom
line.
Is
you
have
resumed
a
lot
of
this
to
our
to
a
anyway,
which
does
allow
for
more
than
one
dwelling
or
more
than
one
dwelling
unit
on
on
the
site?
N
Other
part
provide
opportunity
through
performance
standards
or
by
creating
overlay
district
to
allow
decrease
lot
area
with
their
setback
requirements
to
throughout
the
entire
development
area.
In
looking
at
it,
you
can
see
there
are
a
lot
of
red,
which
means
those
lots
are
less
than
six
thousand
square
feet
even
into
that.
Even
with
year,
r2a
in
cases
I
mean
you're,
aware
you
issue
variances,
even
in
those
cases,
sometimes
at
this
point,
I
I
don't
have
the
answer.
The
magic
bullet.
In
these
cases,
that's
one
of
those
where
I
always
recommend.
N
If
you
find
yourself
issuing
a
lot
of
variances
in
a
single
area,
you
continue
your
review
whether
or
not
you
can
you
can
work
with
something
or
figure
out
what
the
rule
is
or
how
often
you
are
variance
in
this
area
or
that,
but
you
are
far
less
with
the
r2a.
I
will
say
that
now
that
you've
got
that
into
place,
the
the
main
thing
that
you'll
notice
on
those
is
that
a
lot
of
these
are
set
up.
N
A
N
Further
analysis
can
also
be
done
as
we've
got,
where
we
get
more
and
more
data
with
regards
to
having
lines
drawn
lines
on
on
structures
themselves
to
be
able
to
follow,
where
they're
at
and
be
able
to
show
where
they're
at
as
opposed
to
just
kind
of
using
an
aerial
and
reviewing
it.
That
way.
As
we
get
more
and
more
data
in
the
future,
we
may
be
able
to
do
a
better
job
of
saying
definitively.
If
we
do
this
we're
going
to
effect
blank
percent
of
people
as
opposed
to
just
doing
a
random
sampling.
G
N
I
the
other
couple
of
points,
reserving
areas
for
public
parking,
near
clusters
or
multiple
family
units
and
areas
originally
designed
for
single-family
residences.
This
was
something
that
was
brought
up
in
some
previous
meetings
actually
a
handful
of
years
ago,
where,
as
we
get
these
and
we
do
convert
them,
we
have
a
lot
of
buildings
stacked
on
top
of
each
other.
N
Primarily,
what
we're
talking
about
is
the
area
that's
on
the
fringe
of
the
downtown
in
those
cases
and
then,
lastly,
identify
those
sites
that
are
currently
or
may
be
classified
as
future
brownfields
and,
of
course,
discourage
and
compatible
development
over
or
near
them.
As
we
see
brownfields
come
up,
we
know
we've
got
downtown
areas,
we
have
had
some
in
the
past
and
we
just
weari
review.
L
Would
it
be
appropriate
to
identify
a
specific
call-out
for
infrastructure
improvement,
specifically
like
Lyons
Park
and
tying
lines
parks
into
our
trail
system?
In
this
particular
time?
I
know
on
at
least
an
earlier
draft
I
think
the
draft
I
have
in
front
of
me
I'd.
It
looked
different
than
what
you
showed
up
here,
but
in
the
Jefferson
redevelopment
area
you
make
some
specific
mentions
about
Highland,
Park
and
some
of
the
those
those
areas.
Yes,.
N
L
The
only
thought
I
had
reading
it
was
that
if
we
could
just
make
sure,
maybe
this
isn't
the
appropriate
place
to
insert
it,
but
where
we
talked
about
trying
to
tie
it
into
the
tied
into
the
trail
system,
try
to
make
it
more
pedestrian
accessible,
because
I
think
it
would
be
better
utilized
if
it.
If
that
thirds.
Third
Avenue
Bridge
had
some
sort
of
pedestrian
capability
and.
A
E
E
It's
open
and
vacant.
Now
you
still
have
the
old
potato
warehouse
on
the
corner
of
3rd
and
3rd.
You
know,
but
then
there's
a
lot
of
open
space.
Yet
in
the
back,
then
you
get
closer
to
you
know.
Broadway
and
you've
got
tackers
storage
and
some
of
those
things
back
there
behind
Dempsey's
I'm,
just
saying
industrial
zone
with
our
industrial
zoning
requirements,
proximity
to
residential
development
in
the
north
side
of
this
zoned
area.
Some
point
in
time:
industrial
zoning
is
probably
not
the
most
appropriate
long-range
use
for
that
land.
A
J
N
A
brownfield
is
an
area
that
is
classified
as
having
polluted.
Soils
is
probably
the
simplest
way
to
say
it
due
to
some
due
to
some
past
practice
or
past
in
the
wouldn't
even
have
to
be
a
catastrophe.
But
just
the
way
a
property
was
managed
at
the
time,
and
we
do
have
cases
where
we've
got
places
that,
whether
they
be
gas,
tanks,
former
gas
tanks
or
other
forms
of
storage,
that
that
did
lead
to
that
and
we're
not
alone
in
in
the
country
for
having
places
like
that.
N
But
we
do
have
places
like
that
and
where
they're
most
apt
to
have
happened
along
the
old
railroad,
where
we
had
initial
development
for
towns.
So
that's
that's
where
we're
most
susceptible
to
having
this,
and
we
need
to
review
and
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
those
may
be
out
there
and
every
now
and
then
we
become
aware
of
new
ones
and.
N
Basically,
to
to
verify
review
whether
or
not
the
uses
would
be
compatible
over
the
top
of
them,
some
some
cases
and
review
that
through
whether
they
be
environmental
regulations
that
exist
currently
or
recommendations
through
there
I'm
not
recommending
an
overlay
district.
In
that
respect,
although
more.
J
N
E
E
This
gets
back
to
my
point:
we're
talking
about
long
range,
30,
40,
50
year
redevelopment
of
everything
on
the
north
side
of
First
Avenue,
at
least
between
those
that
Broadway
and
third,
you
know
any
redevelopment
goes
on
there.
There
probably
should
be
some
environmental
testing
done
on
the
soils
we
had
to
do
that
with
that's
making
a
few
years
ago.
E
J
J
A
J
G
M
Yeah
and
for
the
most
part,
my
experience
is
both
out
there
and
back
here
in
South
Dakota
prior
to
that
it
was
more
driven
on
a
proprietary
basis
on
a
development
basis
where
you
know
he's
a
cliche
buyer
beware,
but
it's
kind
of
set
out
there
or
not
otherwise,
strictly
identified
on
the
on
the
public
agency
side
of
things.
That's
not
to
say
if
we
have
valuable
information
at
our
fingertips
that
we
couldn't
share
that
and
try
to
disseminate
that
information.
M
In
general
terminology
that
indicates
that
hey,
you
know
this
is
an
area
of
likelihood
to
come
across
brownfield
type
of
issues,
but
then
you
don't
want
to
you-
don't
want
to
rubber-stamp
that
across
all
parcels,
either
and
scare
people
away
from
the
area
so
yeah,
it's
kind
of
a
fine
line.
Man
I
in
my
mind
when
the
developers
or
potential
buyers
come
in
and
starts
preliminary
discussions
with
Kidd
and
I
and
the
engineering
and
building
offices.
M
N
The
hey
I
kind
of
echo
to
a
degree
I
think
we're
Heath
was
going
with
some
of
that
is
that
is
that
right
now
and
I'm
I
may
have
missed
it,
but
in
I'm
not
aware
of
a
place
where
we
had
it
before,
where
we
even
had
the
goal
of
identifying
Browns
fields
and
and
trying
to
discourage
compatible
uses
over
them.
That
was
the
first
step
and
I
think
having
a
punch
list
or
naming.
N
G
N
That's
that's
where
I'm
at
I
want
to
keep
it
yeah.
This
does
need
to
be
something
that
we
can
use
in
a
reefer
tube
and
the
same
breath.
It's
not
a
land-use
manual,
so
we're
gonna
tiptoe
that
line
I
will
take
a
look
at
a
couple
of
towns.
I
can
think
of
one
northeast
and
one
northwest
of
us
and
one
southeast
of
us
I
think
that
would
probably
have
gone
through
similar
in
the
not-too-distant
past.
N
Next
slide
is
a
duplicate
slide,
so
I'll
skip
over
it.
That
was
with
the
central
81
that
I
just
actually.
No,
let
me
take
that
back
yeah,
that
was
the
North
81,
yes
correct,
so
moving
along
to
the
Lincoln
redevelopment
area,
a
couple
of
these
actually
got
crossed
off,
as
we
talked
through
some
things
and
frankly,
the
town's
already
completed
them
or
they're
they're
already
in
the
process
of
changing
to
a
degree.
N
You
could
make
the
argument
that
up
to
seventh
and
then
back
down
to
arrow
Avenue,
there's
some
lot
area
issues
and
setback
issues
that
you
run
into
you.
If
you
haven't
run
into
them,
you
could
run
into
them
in
the
not-too-distant
future.
With
regard
to
the
size
of
those
not
advocating
anything
special
at
this
point,
but
just
to
identify
that
here's,
an
area
that
you
may
run
into
issues
and
if
you
need
to
get
innovative,
that's
an
area
that
might
make
some
sense
to
do
so.
N
The
next
one
on
that
list,
as
I
said,
the
Johnson
industrial
park
I
know
that
that's
under
a
redevelopment
plan
honestly
at
this
time
as
that's,
been
purchased
and
kind
of
a
review
on
what
sorts
of
uses
to
go
into
there,
so
that
one
I'm
actually
suggesting
that
that
not
even
be
in
the
plan
anymore.
Since
that's
that's
likely
to
be
changed
next
part
it
makes
the
land
use
is
compatible
with
those
use
of
South.
Willow
Creek
should
be
encouraged.
North,
Willow,
Creek
I
think
that
only
makes
sense.
The.
L
N
N
N
This
really
just
lays
the
groundwork,
mostly
for
your
overlay
district,
that
you
already
have
is
long
and
short
of
it.
These
points
here,
I'm
really
not
even
going
to
read
them
to
you,
because
that's
basically
what
they
are
they
just.
They
lay
the
groundwork
for
that.
Allow
for
commercial
retail
office,
some
medium
high
density,
residential
and
it
mix
of
commercial
industrial
uses,
but
for
the
most
part,
it's
going
to
be
more
commercial
with
with
aesthetic
standards
to
be
applied
and
see
at
the
bottom
land
landscaping.
E
N
N
The
bad
news
of
that
is
that
it
is
owned
that
whole
property
is
straddled
by
one
property
owner,
so
that
would
go
right
down
the
middle
and
split
that
property
owners
property.
So
from
a
development
standpoint,
it's
got
to
go
through
that
and
then,
as
you
go
through
to
the
ward,
the
north,
you
obviously
31st
would
be
your
collector,
your
major
collector,
and
what
that
also
is
going
to
have
to
ride
along
with
topography
as
it.
N
I
N
N
N
N
What
I
was
referencing
is
33rd
is
an
area
that
does
at
last
conversation
with
d-o-t
does
meet
the
spacing
requirements
through
spacing
warrants.
So
if
we
were
to
add
another
intersection
or
have
the
ability
to
go
north,
it
could
come
back
here
or
we
could
just
acknowledge
the
fact
that
this
is
that
this
is
where
we
can
come
in
the
problem
is:
is
it
with
the
amount
of
traffic
funneling
it
from
31st?
N
All
the
way
over
to
here
would
not
be
advisable
with
this,
spacing
that
we've
got
over
here
by
the
interstate
exit,
so
the
bottom
line
is
within
the
future
land
you
or
the
street
plan.
That
shows
that
actually
just
show
it
shows.
A
couple
of
options
is
what
it
goes
into
right
now,
right
now,
short
term
answer
is
going
to
be
Willow,
Creek
and
working
its
way
toward
the
east.
This
way
long
term
answer
may
be
something
that
becomes
more
Square
and
it
may
come
straight
up
through
and
off
to
this
area.
N
So
as
property
develops
north
of
33rd,
we
do
need
to
be
cognizant
of
the
idea
as
to
whether
or
not
that
is
something
we
want
to
reserve
even
work
with
property
owner
or,
if
that's
something
we
want
to,
let
that
idea
go
again.
This
is
the
problem.
When
you
have
your
town
with
the
luck
and
fortune
of
developing
on
a
correction
line,
we
are
600
feet
off
from,
depending
on
what
side
of
highway
212
you're
on,
so
we've
got
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
our
roads
back.
Luke.
N
N
K
K
M
J
No
2005,
okay
and
that's
what
I
mean
before
you
came.
We
talked
about
having
our
major
street
plan,
be
matching.
Our
current
DoD
adopted
functional
classification
map
and
for
whatever
reason
we
need
to
adopt
that
as
a
city,
and
it
should
match
our
major
street
plan.
Those
are
existing
roads
on
the
functional
classification
and
the
major
street
plan
is
future
roads,
but
all
of
our
existing
roads
should
line
up
with
whatever
the
state
is
calling
those
roads.
We
have
adopted
functional
classifications,
but
then
we
didn't
update.
E
J
J
Think
it's
referred
to
in
state
law
that
we
have
to
have
it
a
major
street
plan
and
we
have.
We
do
have
one,
but
it's
different
from
the
DoD's
functional
classification
map.
It's
also
different
from
our
own
adopted
functional
classification
map
and
the
transportation
areas
study.
The
most
recent
one
was
2005
and
we
need
to
have
another
one
of
those.
Obviously,
but
the
d-o-t
is
they're,
pretty
regular
at
updating
their
functional
classifications
and.
M
I
only
mention
that
just
as
another
tool
in
the
toolbox,
obviously
as
far
as
managing
our
our
city,
streets
and
routes
and
future
development
of
them,
a
transportation
master
plan
to
me
is
where
you
can
get
more
into
the
weeds
on
some
of
these
details
versus
trying
to
get
too
detailed
in
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan.
Obviously
having
the
maps
identified
in
the
comp
plan
that
we
do
is
valuable
and
necessary
information,
but
the
transportation
master
plan
can
get
all
the
more
detailed
great.
M
E
Luke's
been
working
on
is
primarily
for
planning
purposes
that
we
have
our
standard
policy
of
what
our
major
and
minor
collective
routes
being
on
quarter,
section
lines
and
those
types
of
things,
but
at
the
same
point
in
time,
if
we're
gonna
be
looking
at,
maybe
not
having
to
determine
what's
the
best
route
to
be
taken,
but
to
look
at
what
our
options
are.
So
when
a
plat
does
come
in
before
we
have
something
major
traffic
transportation
study
done
that
we
have
something
to
react,
I
think
it's
been.
What's
the
purpose
the.
N
N
What
are
current
arterials
and
collectors
are,
we
do
need
to
do
the
functional
class
make
sure
that
they
match
to
there
as
well,
but
the
other
key
component
to
that
the
usage
part
is
that
when
you
do
come
in
and
you
get
a
subdivision
proposal,
we
know
that
on
the
quarter
line
that
goes
straight
north
and
would
be
at
about
where
twenty-fifth
would
be,
that
we
need
to
have
a
collector
as
we
head
north
in
the
area.
I
was
just
talking
about
with
here.
That
line
is
right
here
straight
north
we're
right
in
between.
E
N
Line
right,
that
line
corresponds
right
here
and
I'm.
Just
using
this
as
an
example,
please
don't
think
I'm
picking
on
any
developers
or
anything,
but
as
a
development
comes
in
you
can
see.
This
is
Willow
Creek,
Drive
heading
north,
as
that
goes
north.
You
can
see
where
that
connects
with
the
rest
of
our
East
woods
and
that
when
a
developer
comes
in,
if
they
we
get
up
to
the
edge
where
we
say
hey,
there's
supposed
to
be
a
collector
here,
we
look
at
it
and
say:
okay,
well,
there's
supposed
to
be
a
collector
here.
N
E
For
example,
at
the
intersection
of
3rd
and
19th
on
the
kinsman
property,
we've
got
those
two
quarter:
sections
of
ground
that
will
develop
residentially
I'm,
assuming
at
some
point
in
time,
and
the
natural
collector
would
run
right
on
the
quarter
line,
and
that
would
be
the
25th
street
that
you're
referencing
Luke.
This.
E
N
J
D
J
You
know,
I
have
looked
at
that
area
pretty
carefully.
It's
not
I,
don't
think
the
right
place
for
that
is
on
the
quarter
line
and
if
you
look
at
Dakota,
Commons
I,
don't
think
it's
right
on
the
quarter
line,
because
Dakota
Commons
has
one
row
of
lots,
you
know
and
then
you've
got
a
street
and
I
it's
just.
J
K
J
E
J
Through
this
right
yep,
so
those
those
areas
that
we
know
don't
pass
the
straight
face,
let's
work
on
them
a
little
bit
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
have
to
go
a
quarter
of
a
mile
through
wetlands
that
you
can't
develop
on
either
side
and
because
you
know,
and
the
impact
of
putting
a
road
in
a
wetland
and
having
to
do
the
mitigation
and
then
not
having
an
offset
by
development
adjacent
to
it.
That's
silly.
E
J
K
K
Twenty-Fifth
really
can't
serve
as
the
collector
beans
with
where
the
Eastwood's
development
went
in
and
that's
where
using
this
document
and
the
comp
plan
will
be
really
important.
So
when
we're
looking
at
new
development
or
even
with
Dakota
Commons,
when
we
were
with
the
preliminary
plan
that
we
should
look
at
that
address
that
before
we
would
approve
that
preliminary
plan.
I.
J
Think
the
the
property
owners
of
Dakota
Commons
area
have
been
reminded
with
the
last
three
plots:
no
more
plots
until
you
update
your
comp
plan-
okay,
just
one
more,
but
no
more
after
that,
okay,
just
one
more
and
then,
but
we
we're
getting
to
the
point
now
where
if
we
go
much
further
we're
gonna
cut
off
our
foot
and
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
What's.
E
E
M
E
N
N
Here
we
need
to
be
addressing
that
as
we
have
development,
but
the
major
collector
is
absolutely
positively
31st
Street
and
that's
going
to
be
the
big
road
and
we
either
need
to
plan
to
get
people
over
to
that
sooner
than
later
or
plan
for
what
that
collector
is
going
through
there
right
now.
The
plan
has
the
ability
to
do
both.
N
A
N
N
N
The
should
be
encouraged,
though,
not
mandated,
at
least
in
portions
of
it,
to
adhere
similarly
to
what
we
see
in
the
overlay
district,
which
would
be
limit
the
amount
of
steel
that
would
face
the
at
least
the
highway
from
that
standpoint,
and
then,
however,
with
that
ability
and
in
some
cases,
especially
as
we
go
farther
east
of
the
as
we
go
east
of
the
interstate
use,
is
requiring
large,
overnight
or
long-term
storage
of
implements
or
trucks,
basically
to
do
a
paving
situation
similar
to
what
we
saw.
Titan
machinery
do
where
they
paved
there.
N
They
paved
their
customer
employee
parking
as
well
as
manage
their
stormwater,
so
they're
able
to
keep
keep
their
keep
things
clean
as
they
leave
the
leaves
a
lot,
but
allow
them
some
flexibility
as
they
go
into
the
back
side
there.
So
that
is
within
that
stretch.
Frankly,
it's
going
to
have
a
several
different
development
types
going
on
there
with
commercial.
N
Moving
along,
we
get
into
more
commercial
development,
and
this
next
part
is
a
South
212
redevelopment
area
and
that
basically
encompasses
everything
south
of
highway,
212
and
east
of
Foley
road,
even
straddling
Foley
road
or
highway
20.
Depending
on
how
you
want
to
look
at
it
and
with
that
get
a
few
points
into
their
development
of
outdoor
and
indoor
recreation
facilities
should
incorporate
the
plan
for
playground
or
other
park
facilities
to
serve
residents
and
visitors.
N
South
of
212
that
comes
down,
and
there
was
a
conversation
with
a
a
few,
a
kind
of
a
joint
meeting
with
parks
and
and
Planning
Commission,
in
which
it
was
that
same
thing
was
that
code
and
both
both
groups
agree
that,
as
things
are
planned
down
there,
and
that
is
the
intent
as
they
go
down
there
because
of
the
fact
that
I
don't
know
who
said
it.
I
might
have
even
said
it
that
highway
212,
where
you
don't
have
stoplights
to
a
pedestrian,
could
just
as
well
be
a
river.
It's
you're
not
crossing
it.
N
You
sure,
as
heck,
don't
want
an
eight-year-old
crossed
net,
and
so
the
bottom
line
is,
if
you
do
have
residences
what
you
do
have
a
few
on
the
south
side.
You
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
place
for
them
to
go
and
have
recreation,
as
well
as
the
idea
that
we
are
going
to
have
more
people
there.
Looking
for
something
to
do
as
you
have
a
softball
field,
and
you
have
soccer
fields,
there's
got
to
be
an
opportunity
for
little
or
frankly,
big
brothers
and
sisters
to
go
as
well
as
things
are
going
on.
N
A
N
This
comes
back
to.
There
was
not
one
recommended
in
in
the
in
the
document
there,
but
I
may
be
looking
at
something.
Maybe
the
recreation
of
what
was
used
to
be
the
I
won
a
district
where
you've
got
kind
of
a
more
a
slightly
higher
building
standard
for
industrial
uses,
keeping
things
inside
honestly
a
good
model
for
that
is
the
stretch
that
is
south
of
Walmart.
Now
you
have
some
to
have
brick
buildings,
but
their
industrial
uses
they
limit
some
of
their
loading
in
their
parking.
N
Their
storage
outside
those
are
good
examples,
and,
frankly,
that
would
be
something
that,
if
you're
limiting
the
intensity
of
of
industrial
use
as
well
I
know
there
have
been
there
have
been
recreational
uses
floating
looking
for
homes
as
well.
That
would
be
an
area
that
could
also
be
combined
as
well
for
that,
because
you're
going
to
limit
this,
the
heavy
industrial
in
those
areas
and
have
it
down
to
more
whether
it
be
a
two-degree
frankly,
probably
contractor
sort
of
work.
How.
N
K
N
K
N
K
I
noticed
that
anything
adjacent
to
212
was,
for
the
most
part,
looked
at
as
being
redeveloped
as
commercial,
except
that
was
left.
Industrial
and
I.
Think
that
would
be
a
good
area
for
redevelopment
for
more
commercial
uses
with
it
being
and
yes,
the
railroad
is
there,
but
the
railroad
and
glacial
lakes,
energy,
but
I
think
that
that
could
be
the
boundary
between
redevelopment
to
commercial,
with
it
being
adjacent
to
a
major
collector
at
a
minor
collector.
K
K
N
Commercial
and
industrial
yeah
I
would
agree
with
you
and
that,
because
it
it
would
and
plus
there
are
currently
right
now,
it's
it's
a
use
that
is
commercial
in
nature
anyway,
yeah,
albeit
oriented
toward
industrial,
same
thing
as
when
ProBuild
was
there
UBC
before
right.
So
I
would
agree
with
you.
Brandi
I,
better
write
that
down
locust
I'll
forget
I'll.
N
N
The
first
commercial
redevelopment
area
in
there-
and
actually
the
only
one
that's
listed
here-
covers
about
the
whole
thing.
I
just
referenced
it
as
as
a
vastly
expanded
version
of
the
magic
mile
is
what
it
amounts
to
it's
magic
two
miles
here
encourage
zoning
designations
which
allow
commercial
retail
uses.
You
have
that,
right
now,
certain
industrial
uses
may
be
allowed
as
long
as
certain
aesthetic
and
operation
criteria
are
met.
A
lot
of
it
is
with
regards
to
storage
visible
from
the
highway
review,
whether
it's
necessary
for
certain
intersections
to
consider
vacation.
Specifically.
N
What
I'm
referencing
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
roads
that
intersect
on
highway
212
that
go
in
all
directions,
and
there
may
be
some
cases
where
it
makes
good
sense
to
just
let
them
be.
Let
them
go
property
back
to
the
property
owners,
let
them
handle
and
perhaps
even
use
and
improve
those
properties.
We
obviously
have
to
be
smart
with
how
we
do
that,
so
that
we're
not
cutting
off
access,
but
that's
something
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
and
and
encourage
if
it,
if
it
fits
into.
N
G
N
The
way
over
to
19th
probably
closer
to
17th,
you
see
a
lot
of
lots
that
do
not
meet
our
c3.
A
lot
area
requirements
which
you
know
reality
should
should
make
things
difficult
for
them
to
build,
and
it
does
is
a
bottom
line.
So
that's
that's
why
you
do
have
a
laundry
list.
One
of
the
reasons
you
have
a
laundry
list
of
things
when
someone
comes
in
for
conditional
use
in
the
c3
relaxation
of
perimeter,
trees
and
setting
things
and
screening
and
storage
so
to
be
able
to
ratchet
some
of
that
down.
I
think.
A
A
N
Does
the
other
the
other
issue
that
we
face
in
there
and
I
know
it's
been
brought
up
in
reference
to
honestly
sign
discussions
that
we've
had
in
the
past
is
that
when
the
magic
mile
was
plaited
and
lots
along
highway,
212
were
platted.
They
were
platted
along
the
same
size
as
we
have
downtown
25
to
50
foot
wide
Lots
50,
maybe
75
on
a
big
one,
a
lot
of
them
through
there.
So,
consequently
we
have
a
lot
of
lots
there
as
well
that
we've
got
to
serve
and
future
to
split
so
it
does.
M
Intersection
discussion
with
the
upcoming
two
phases
of
212
reconstruction
I
know
the
d-o-t
will
be
eliminating
a
couple,
a
handful
of
those
intersections
and
creating
safer
realignments,
a
couple
of
the
existing
intersections
as
well,
and
that's
something
that
we've
been
in
review
with
them,
and
they
of
course,
have
been
in
conversation
in
regards
to
the
property
owners
that
would
be
affected
and
I.
Don't
have
a
list
of
those
specifically
with
me
here
tonight,
but
I
do
know
that
there
are
some
that
will
be
affected
by
the
d-o-t
project.
K
N
N
N
How
do
we
make
it
so
that
we're
not
saying
well
thank
you
for
doing
that,
but
you
need
to
spend
another
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
pave
your
lot
too,
while
you're
at
it,
and
while
we
want
them
to
do
that,
it's
also
very
nice
that
they're
improving
their
building,
or
vice
versa,
so
trying
to
decide
design
or
determine
at
what
point
do
we
trigger
certain
types
of
things?
And
this
really
just
lays
the
groundwork
for
establishing
what
that
is
at
some
point.
N
N
Narrowly
focused
redevelopment
efforts
throughout
those
that
was
with
the
fine-tooth
comb
and
then
in
some
cases
to
allow
for
mixed
uses
in
certain
conditions.
Again,
that
would
be
probably
at
clustered
locations.
We
do
have
an
instance
like
that
at
a
maple
and
at
maple
in
212
opportunity-
and
that's
been
done
in
the
past,
so
I
will
call
uncle
if
you
don't
want
to
and
move
to
before,.
J
N
A
A
K
Yes,
so
that
and
how
we
handled
that
the
first
two
meetings
is,
then
we
approved
the
changes
and
then
for
Luke's
to
incorporate
so
I'll
have
that
we
Luke
will
not
be
here
on
the
December
20th
meeting,
so
we
will
take
off
again
on
the
beginning
of
the
year
at
the
January.
Its
fourth
meeting
sounds
good.
A
A
J
N
C
C
A
N
L
L
K
At
what
point
the
developer
is
looking
at
it
and
then
incorporating
into
so
it'll
be
a
conceptual
plan
where
it's
not
the
park
board
and
plan
commission
won't
be
presented
it
at
the
preliminary
plan
phase
when
they've
already
put
a
bunch
of
engineering
efforts
into
their
plans,
it's
going
to
be
more
of
a
blank
slate
we're
looking
at
developing
this.
We
want
to
present
a
concept
plan
and
then
addressing
that
with
the
park
board
right
away
as
just
the
land
itself
and
where
they
would
see
the
most
ideal
location
for
a
park
to
go.
The.
A
Other
aspect
of
it
is
kind
of
some
forward-looking
of
what
our
expectations
are
on,
where
we
would
expect
to
see
a
park.
So
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
the
half
mile
half
mile,
spacing
with
the
parks
our
being
able
to
get
to
a
park
within
a
half
a
mile,
I
should
say
which
puts
it
basically
at
one
for
a
quarter
section.
So
in.
F
A
Older
parts
of
town,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
parks
developed
in
some
really
nice
parks,
we've
pretty
much
hit
that
every
in
every
neighborhood.
We
do
have
some
examples
of
some
existing
developments
where
we've
we've
not
hit
that
mark,
and
so
this
would
really
firm
up
that
language
of
what
our
expectations
are.
In
fact,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about,
and
I'd
really
like
to
see
it
is,
is
some
even
some
areas
picked
out
on
a
map
where
they
would
be
an
ideal
state
of
having
a
park
in
advance?