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From YouTube: BOA & Plan Commission Meeting 6 7 2018
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Agenda for June 7, 2018
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C
In
addition,
such
facilities
shall
supply
adequate
off
street
parking
or
other
suitable
plan
for
the
loading
and
unloading
of
children
so
as
not
to
obstruct
the
public
streets
or
create
other
traffic
or
safety
hazard
hazards
and
the
home
occupation
is
operated
in
accordance
with
chapter
20.
170
Johnson
has
acknowledged
by
signature,
her
understanding
and
insurance
and
assurance
to
comply
with
2170.
C
C
And
floor
plans
and
/
14
or
21
1403
1
facilities
shall
supply
adequate
off
street
parking
and
other
suitable
plan
for
the
loading
and
unloading
of
children
so
as
not
to
obstruct
public
streets
or
create
other
traffic
or
safety
hazards.
This
property
has
an
approximately
40
foot,
wide
paved
front
yard,
driveway
Boulevard,
creating
an
undefined
sidewalk
over
which
parking
is
prohibited.
The
minimum
number
of
legal
sized
and
durable
surface
off
street
parking
spaces
required
for
just
the
single-family
dwelling
is
2.
C
However,
due
to
the
insufficient
17
foot
front
yard
setback,
there
is
only
one
legal
off
street
parking
space
on
the
east
side
of
the
house
going
into
the
driveway
to
the
garage.
This
board
may
consider
requiring
additional
compliant
off
street
parking
spaces
as
a
condition
of
secondary
use
approval
and
to
comply
with
21
1403
one
for
the
safe
loading
and
unloading
of
children,
chapter
21,
65,
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
specific
uses.
This
will
be
typical
to
the
average
single-family
dwelling,
the
landscape
and
lighting
standards.
C
Chapter
21
73,
there
is
a
minimum
tree
requirement
and
the
minimum
number
of
trees
to
be
located
on
the
development
site
shall
be
one
tree
per
50
feet
of
frontage
and
there
are
zero
grass
and
trees
existing
in
the
boulevard
front
yard
due
to
the
excessive,
paving
and
curb
cut.
So
this
board
must
determine
if
the
request
shows
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
concerning
chapter
20,
170,
home
occupations
and
standards,
2100
202
to
b7
A
through
H
specific
rules
governing
individual
individual
conditional
uses
and
chapters
21,
6321,
65
and
21
73,
as
described
previously.
C
If
endorsed
this
board
may
consider
imposing
any
conditions
of
approval
deem
necessary
for
this
secondary
use.
For
example,
additional
off
street
parking
spaces,
fulfillment
of
boulevard
infrastructure
requirements,
as
in
the
grass
and
trees,
are
prohibited.
Any
future
replacement
of
pavement
pavement
in
excess,
etcetera.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly,
there
are
four
plot
requirements
that
this
property
does
not
presently
meet.
The
regulations
with
respect
to
the
subject
parcel
the
end
of
a
lot
with
the
boulevard
requirements,
the
infrastructure
requirements
on
the
minimum
off
street
parking
correct
and
looking
at
the
application.
A
C
F
Opening
with
all
of
my
neighbors
under
there's
three
houses
on
the
northeast
corner,
and
they
have
a
parking
lot
that
is
attached
to
our
driveway
and
they
are
willing
to
allow
us
to
make
our
driveway
a
one
way
and
use
their
since
our
driveway
connects
to
their
parking
lot
use
their
parking
lot.
I
have
pictures
to
exit,
so
they
can
exit
on
81
through
their
parking
lot.
Where's.
F
H
H
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G
F
I
H
G
F
H
D
E
D
D
They
would
enter
or
accident
on
the
third
Avenue
across
the
pavement
and
on
the
pavement
on
the
side
yard
and
then
once
they
got
past
the
first
house
on
the
corner.
It
would
then
access
behind
that
how
second
house
to
the
south.
Could
you
turn
this
down
a
little
bit
and
this
go
out
in
between
the
second
and
the
third.
Is
that
right.
G
F
G
G
F
Asked
me
to
come
here
today
and
see
what
you
guys
would
have
to
say
and
if
you
guys
approved
it
get
the
requirements,
so
they
need
to
sign
it,
but
we
are
going
to
be
doing
the
maintaining.
We
would
be
doing
the
mowing
and
snow
removal
and
everything
else
and
signage,
so
the
lake
area
students
know
where
not
to
park.
That's
one
thing
she
said
she
would
like.
So
it's
not
obstructing
it.
So.
F
G
F
F
H
D
H
B
D
D
E
H
J
E
J
Obstruct
public
streets
or
create
other
traffic
or
safety
hazards
and
I
feel
very
uncomfortable
that
that's
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
here.
It's
so
gray
so
in
the
homeless
so
unusual,
and
is
it
precedent
setting
for
other
people,
creating
a
private
alleyway
like
that
that
and
then
entering
or
exiting
on
highway
81
I
troubled
by
that
Tideway
81
is
really
busy
at
that
corner
during
drop-off
time
for
children
when
kids
and
people
are
going
to
school,
it's
an
extremely
busy
corner,
Oh,
both
streets,
highway,
81,
Hansard
I.
E
F
F
D
F
F
D
F
D
Would
be
more
inclined
to
support
if
you
actually
own
that
property
where
the
garage
is
situated
in
and
that
you
and
you
and
you're
older,
and
you
know
the
house
I-
would
be
more
inclined
to
support
that
because,
again,
that's
the
that's.
The
private
use
of
your
property
and
traffic
flow
off
and
onto
your
property
is
is
something
that
I
think
is
more
of
a
right
to
you
using
it
and
setting
up
a
deal
without
having
the
person
here
present
to
answer.
Some
of
these
questions
makes
it
a
little
bit
cumbersome
for
me
right
now.
F
A
With
the
reason
that
it
was
denied
before
I,
don't
think,
we've
really
solved
that
and
typically
with
home
occupation,
you
know
home
use
conditional
use,
permits
it's
it's
based
upon
the
property
itself
and
not
extrapolating
it
to
if
we
get.
You
know
this
with
this
landowner.
Another
group
I
know
that's
everything
so
I'm,
not
so
sure
that
we
could
even
prove
it
even
taking.
A
D
E
A
B
D
L
B
L
D
L
D
The
other
question
becomes
from
an
access
standpoint
onto
the
state
highway
I
think
you're
we're
talking
abuse,
which
would
need
some
sort
of
do.
T
board
approval
I
would
think
from
an
access
perspective,
because
the
the
access
is
changing
from
the
intended
use
of
a
single
multiple
family
dwelling
to
a
business
associated
with
it.
I
might
be
wrong,
but
that's
normally
how
it
works
in
the
county.
I
would.
M
F
Reason
is
because
our
backyards
in
between
our
property
and
theirs.
So
this
way
the
parking
lot
that
they're
building
is
adjacent
to
our
driveway
in
our
garage.
So
it's
direct
connection.
All
we
would
have
to
do
is
lay
down
gravel
or
dirt
or
make
a
pathway
or
ensigns
the
other
way.
We
would
have
it.
I
just
went
through
the
yard,
it's
just
as
easy.
I
guess.
F
A
Somebody
certainly
make
proponent
that
if
they
were
to
choose,
I
am
Not
sure
that
would
change
my
mind.
Even
if
my
opinion,
I
guess
I
would
say,
even
if
those
documents
were
in
hand
for
all
the
other
traffic
flow
reasons
and
parking
and
everything
else
we
talked
about
that
still
are
present.
Even
if
we
had
the
documents
in
place
that
alleviated
the
unknowns
of
the
the
ingress
and
egress
with
a
with
a
neighbor's
property,
I.
D
What
I
would
be
at
with
that
is
that,
if
somebody
wanted
to
take
a
time
out
to
talk
to
the
Department
of
Transportation,
to
talk
about
excess
traffic
coming
on
to
that
highway,
81
I
would
be
more
inclined
and
I'd
feel
better,
supporting
an
approval
or
denial.
Based
upon
that
opinion
of
what
the
d-o-t
says,
because
we're
talking
about
coming
on
to
a
road,
that's
not
technically
that
the
cities,
and
so,
if
I,
if
it.
D
B
D
Deferring
this
for
two
weeks,
so
that
somebody
could
talk
to
or
four
weeks
excuse
me,
so
somebody
could
talk
to
the
d-o-t
and
we
get
a
letter
stating
what
their
opinion
would
be.
I
think
that
would
make
us
all
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable,
I'm
a
little
bit
trying
to
understand
eight
cars
and
then
another
twenty
two
cars
a
day
going
through
that
area.
I
think
it
might
be
great
initially,
but
what
happens
when
the
house
on
the
corner?
D
People
start
coming
off
the
edge
of
your
driveway
and
start
tearing
up
their
yard
and
that
that's
the
one
thing
I
think
we
could
potentially
have
a
problem
with
from
a
code
enforcement
standpoint,
but
I
would
I
would
make
a
motion
to
table
this
or
not
table
postpone
the
decision
for
until
the
second
meeting
in
July.
Second
Thursday
was
it
candy?
What
day
are
we
meeting
in
July
one
day
in
July?
Are
we
meeting
I
would
make
them.
M
G
Then
I
would
like
to
also
have
you
talk
to
the
people
on
the
corner,
their
house,
where
their
owner
occupied
and
that
they're
fine
with
all
these
cars
going
yeah
yeah
I
know.
But
could
you
get
something
like
in
writing?
Saying
yep
we're
fine
with
that,
because
and
then
also
this
is
just
me
thinking.
This
is
going
to
be
a
permanent
easement,
so
these
people
that
own
these
apartment
houses
are
fine
that
that's
going
to
go
with
the
property
when
they
sell
it
that
they
know.
This
is
always
going
to
be
there.
Okay,
I.
N
It's
gonna
be
like
herding
cats
to
assign
places
for
these
people
to
park
and
then,
when
they
have
their
parents
or
somebody's
moving
and
they've
got
their
trucks
parked
in
the
driveway
and
you're
trying
to
get
kids
and
that
in
and
out
of
there
and
pretty
soon
they're
gonna.
You
know
I
know
we're
nature
of
the
beast.
You
know
we're
gonna
well,
I
want
to
go
down
to
Dempsey's,
so
I'm
gonna,
you
know,
come
up
your
driveway
the
wrong
way:
you're
not
going
to
keep
people
from
doing
that,
and
especially
I'm,
not
blaming
Bo
tech.
N
Kids.
You
know
if
I'm,
in
a
hurry,
I'm
gonna
go
the
other
way
too
so
I,
just
I
I
really
feel
for
you
and
I.
Just
don't
know
that
this
idea
of
that
parking
there
and,
if
you're,
going
to
go
through
the
steps
of
doing
that,
I
think
I'd
like
to
see
that
parking
lot
actually
drawn
out
and
if
it's
not
going
to
be
hard
surface
I,
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
keep
cars
in
spots.
You
know
you
can't
paint
lines
on
gravel,
so
you're
never
going
to
have
those
assigned
spots
that
you're.
N
G
N
And
then
you,
you
you've
got
better
things
to
do
that
kids
take
care
of
as
to
you
know,
be
you
know,
saying
you
can't
park
there.
I
got
people
coming
through
and
and
I
I
thought
you
did
an
excellent
job.
Like
Diana
said
you
know,
your
presentation
is
awesome
and
I
hope
that
you
can
make
this
work.
I
just
don't
know
that
this
is
the
spot
to
do
it.
Sorry.
A
L
D
M
D
Would
be
more
supportive
of
that
idea
than
then
actually
dump
us
a
very
good
idea,
brandy
and
whether
you
get
an
access
easement
to
walk
across
the
people's
backyard
or
if
you
just
have
to
push
the
kids,
carry
the
kids
half
a
block,
so
you
get
drop-off,
that's
going
to
be.
You
know
an
issue
for
the
your
parents
that
you're
taking
care
of
their
children
that
they
can't
just
stop
off
at
the
house
and
drop
off.
D
Yep
III
would
be
more
supportive
of
that
idea
and
allowing
for
you
to
act.
You
know
the
drop-off
could
be
very
much
even
in
close
to
that
corner
on
4th
and
people
are
they're.
Gonna
have
to
come
out
and
I'd
rather
do
that,
then
at
an
uncontrolled
access
point
coming
out
onto
2:12
I'd,
rather
get
you
to
an
intersection.
I
would
support
that.
A
D
J
C
Okay,
the
applicants
seek
approval
to
operate
us
to
operate
service
businesses,
bicycle
repair
and
nutrition,
nutrition
counseling
at
their
single-family
dwelling
property
located
in
the
r1
single-family
residential
district
for
21
1403.
Five.
These
staff
finds
that
home
occupations
is
a
listed
conditional
use
for
the
r1
single-family
residential
district
for
2114
o
35,
in
that
they
can
comply
with
home
occupations
in
accordance
with
2170
home
occupation.
C
The
definition
is
any
occupation
which
is
clearly
secondary
to
the
main
use
of
the
premises
as
a
dwelling
and
does
not
change
the
character
thereof
or
have
any
exterior
evidence
of
such
secondary
use
other
than
a
non
illuminated
sign,
not
exceeding
400
square
inches
in
area.
This
occupation
shall
be
carried
on
or
conducted
only
by
members
of
a
family
residing
in
the
dwelling.
The
applicant
submitted
the
a
site
plan,
written
request
and
floor
plan,
which
reflects
compliance
or
non-compliance
with
the
following
terms
of
the
ordinance
I've
mentioned
chapter
2170,
home
occupations
and
standards.
C
The
verilux
proposed
to
utilize
approximately
697
square
feet
or
20%
of
their
three
thousand
four
hundred
and
seventy-six
square
foot
single-family
dwelling
for
their
service
businesses.
They
have
signed
assurance
to
comply
with
chapter
twenty
one.
Seventy
no
signage
is
proposed
at
this
time
chapter:
twenty
one,
sixty
three
off
street
parking
and
loading
standards
to
be
counted
as
a
legal
off
street
parking
space.
It
must
meet
the
minimum
size
and
location
standards
and
allow
the
exit
of
a
vehicle
without
moving
another
vehicle.
C
C
This
board
must
determine
if
the
request
shows
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
concerning
chapter
21,
70,
home
occupations
and
standards,
2102
or
2
to
b7
A
through
H
specific
girls
governing
individual
conditional
uses
and
chapters
21,
63,
65
and
73,
as
described
above.
If
generally
endorsed.
This
board
may
consider
conditions
of
approval
such
as
fulfillment
of
any
are
all
lacking.
Boulevard
infrastructure
requirements
like
the
sidewalk
additional
parking
spaces
and
and/or
any
other
conditions
deemed
appropriate
for
secondary
uses.
A
A
E
O
Cassandra,
garlic
for
the
bicycle
repair
shop,
we're
looking
at
maybe
two
to
the
max,
maybe
eight
customers
per
week.
It's
just
a
part-time.
We
have
like
a
shop
behind
our
garage
and
we
just
looked
at
it
as
an
opportunity
for
a
little
extra
income
for
my
husband
and
it
would
be
pretty
much
appointment.
Only
we
don't
have
time
but
I
have
it
open.
O
We
have
there's
two
spots
in
the
driveway
for
parking
and
then
I
would
say,
there's
probably
up
to
three
parking
spots
in
front
of
our
house,
but,
like
I
said
it
would
be
more
of
an
appointment.
Only
so
I
would
only
expect
one
customer
at
a
time.
We
don't
also
have
the
room
to
store
their
bicycles
at
our
place,
so
it'd
only
be
up
to
maybe
two
at
a
time
and
we're
not
really
gonna
publicize
big
on
it.
So
it's
gonna
be
more
like
friends,
we're
two
miles
tape.
O
O
O
I
O
People
are
helping
my
buying
this
or
what
is
it
that
I'm
supposed
to
buy?
Maybe
I'd
go
with
them
too
heavy
and
show
them
what
it
is
that
they
need
it,
because
I
know
I
get
confused
when
I
go
there.
I'm
like
I,
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about,
especially
when
it's
some
odd
type
of
ingredient
that
you
don't
hear
of
so.
C
H
The
call-
and
it
wasn't
per
se
this
particular
business-
she
just
didn't-
want
any
business
home
occupation
coming
into
her
neighborhood.
She
said,
neighborhood
should
be
neighborhoods
and
business
should
be
business,
so
that
was
the
gist
of
what
it
was.
It
wasn't
anything
against
this
particular
whatever
it
was.
It
was
just
businesses
in
general.
A
P
My
name
is
Dorothy,
sorry
and
I.
Looked
directly
across
the
street,
and
I
got
a
certified
letter
about
going
into
business
across
the
street
and
that
is
kind
of
what
upset
me
the
most
that
they
couldn't
come
across
and
visit
it
with
them.
You
know,
and
no
one
else
in
the
neighborhood
received
a
letter
that
I
know
of
and
I
do
have
a
letter
from
my
next-door
neighbor
that
is
against
having
any
type
of
business.
So
it's
not.
P
The
Vera
licks
are
very
good
neighbors,
very
good,
but
having
a
bicycle
shop
across
the
street,
they
have
two
vehicles,
they're,
quite
large,
and
that's
all
they
have
room
for
on
their
driveway.
There's
no
place
for
storage,
except
in
the
garage,
which
is
not
a
good
thing
and
it's
close
to
the
park.
We're
close
to
school
I.
Just
don't
think
that
a
residential
area
should
have
any
type
of
business.
A
O
J
N
P
N
P
Know
this
could
start
it's
like
opening
up
a
can
of
worms.
One
business
starts
in
residential
and
it
could
move
water.
John
has
enough
places
uptown
for
lease
or
buy
or
rent
for
a
business,
and
when
you
start
with
bicycles,
how
in
the
world
can
you
control
the
time
of
day
that
you're
going
to
be
there
to
take
care
of
them
and
there's
no
place
for
parking
except
I
own
200,
feet
property?
P
A
P
A
No
there's
no
outside
storage
allowed
with
home
occupation
just
and
make
sure
I'm
gonna
make
that
clear
as
well.
That
is
to
say
that's
the
homeowner
responsibility
to
keep
all
the
bicycles
that
they're
working
on
and
all
the
parts
everything
else
inside
of
their
home
in
the
garage
or
wherever
they
choose,
but
it
cannot
be
left
out
on
the
in
public
view.
P
A
I
I'm
Gloria
wrist
bet
now
try
not
to
repeat
some
of
the
things
that
that
mrs.
sari
said,
but
I
I,
just
love
our
sunrise
area.
I
moved
there
20
years
ago,
and
it's
probably
one
of
the
best-kept
secrets
in
water
tone.
I.
Think
it's
very
family,
friendly
and
I.
Don't
want
to
jeopardize
this
by
having
a
business,
and
you
know
more
cars
and
that
kind
of
thing
strangers
to
the
area's
cause
parking
issues
I'm
not
sure
about
it.
I
Lowering
my
property
values,
but
you
know
I'm
getting
to
refactor
I'm
over
retirement
age,
but
someday
I
want
to
sell
my
property,
and
you
know
I
just
don't
want
any
issues
involved
with
that
and
possibly
other
might
start
a
trend
in
that
area.
Maybe
other
people
want
to
being
bring
businesses
into
which
you
know
could
possibly
happen,
could
cause
safety
issues
for
our
children.
I
Also,
as
some
Dorothy
said,
we
have
a
lot
of
traffic
with
children
and
ball
games
and
practices
across
the
street
there
at
Harbor
Park,
and
that
is
kind
of
an
issue
too
and
again
yeah.
There
are
some
places
downtown.
So
that's
that's
the
way
I
feel
too
I.
Just
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
and
I
love
our
area
and
I
just
hate
to
have
any
more
traffic,
the
other
neighbor,
that's
against
it
too.
We
can
talk
in
the
middle
of
the
street.
I
You
know
sometimes,
and
we
do
and
not
have
anybody
you
know
coming
by
at
all,
it's
just
so
safe,
then
I
also
have
a
four
year
old,
granddaughter
in
town
that
comes
over
in
plays
and
I
would
just
hate
to
see
anything
happen.
You
know
with
her
too
so
and
dogs,
and
you
know
everything
else.
So
that's
the
way
I
feel
I,
just
like
we'd
like
to
keep
the
character
of
our
neighborhood
the
way
it
is
and
not
get
into
anything
that
might
jeopardize
that.
A
My
only
comment
would
be
it
I
understand
everything
that
you're
saying
the
the
this.
The
decision
that
board
needs
to
make
is:
is
this
a
reasonable
use
of
a
home
occupation
business
and,
if
they're
complying
with
all
the
rules
and
regulations
of
home
occupation,
the
the
the
fact
that
neighbors,
don't
necessarily
you
know
like
the
idea,
does
not
necessarily
make
it
a
non
permit.
Abul
use
I'm,
not
saying
that's
I'm,
not
saying
that
in
terms
of
you.
K
A
P
I
had
one
other
thing
that
I
would
just
like
to
add:
I
have
a
grandson
and
he
doesn't
have
a
motor
to
him,
but
he
was
ten
years
old
and
he
was
hit
by
a
driver
on
his
bicycle.
He
now
has
a
glass
eye,
so
it
isn't
just
my
properties
or
anything
else.
I'm
worried
about
its
children
riding
their
bicycles
after
they
are
prepared,
are
already
fixed,
trying
it
out
on
the
street
I
just
buy
in
the
park
and
close
to
the
schools.
I
just
don't
see
having
a
lot
of
traffic
in
our
area.
A
Q
Just
yesterday
morning,
I
was
backing
out
as
I
do
every
morning
and
I
think
you
know.
I've
lived
here,
20
years
now
or
22
years
and
I
almost
never
even
look
to
see
if
anything's
coming,
because
nothing's
coming
and
and
it'd
be
nice
to
keep
that
I
suppose
that,
but
life
goes
on
for
others
as
well,
and
I
can
only
say
that
my
daughter
was
just
over
babysitting.
The
cat
sat
at
Cassandra
and
Brian's
place
and
she
said
I
didn't
mean
it
wasn't
green
nosy,
but
she
said
I
did
see
the
work
area.
Q
This
would
be
the
I
think
she's
talking
about
the
area
on
the
back
of
the
garage.
He
said
it's
very
well
done.
Brian
and
Cassandra
I,
don't
know
anybody
else
that
puts
out
Christmas
lights
and
Thanksgiving
lights
and
Easter
lights
and
they
keep
a
neat
place.
The
great
neighbors,
as
as
are
the
two
ladies,
that
that
spoke
we
do
have
the
best
kept
secret,
but
I
certainly
respect
the
fact
that
life
goes
on
I
respect
the
fact
that
they
came
in
and
applied
for
an
applications
that
it
just
did
it.
Q
A
C
Regarding
conditional
use
request
by
Brian
and
Cassandra
Varric
for
their
property
at
30,
sunrise,
drys
Drive
for
a
home-based
business
of
bicycle
repair
and
nutrition,
consulting
business,
Elaine
I
and
our
children
live
just
diagonally
across
the
street
from
the
subject
property
at
35,
sunrise
Drive.
Well,
we
have
had
nothing
but
positive
experiences
with
the
verilux
and
strongly
support
the
need
for
a
bicycle
repair
service
in
Watertown.
We
are
opposed
to
such
business
at
their
residents
officially
zoned
and
in
the
subjects
on
arts.
C
The
subject
sunrise
drive,
neighborhood
is
firmly
established
and
characterized
as
peaceful
and
quiet
residential
families
purchase
and
reside
here
for
these
characteristics,
with
the
zoning
assurances
that
it
will
remain
residential
and
not
convert
to
a
commercial
venue.
The
business
plan
provided
by
the
verilux
in
proposing
the
conditional
use
permit
in
itself
does
not
purport
alarm.
However,
once
the
line
is
crossed
from
residential
to
commercial
enforcement
of
evolving
and
enhanced
commercial
uses,
conflicts
in
a
residential
neighborhood
becomes
extremely
subjective
at
the
expense
of
the
established
residential
use.
C
A
A
C
G
G
O
Title
repair:
we
don't
even
anticipate
more
than
one
customer
a
day.
That's
like
I,
don't
I
don't
perceive
the
traffic
as
they're,
anticipating
I,
don't
foresee
that
and
if
it
ever
were
to
get
where
I
could
see
a
potential
of
my
husband
ever
quitting.
We
would
move
it
to
a
commercial
site,
but
when
you're
starting
out
thinking,
meme
you're
gonna
have
two
customers
a
week.
You
can't
afford.
G
N
Right
and
I'm
with
the
couple
of
bikes
a
week,
I
see
her
point
that
you
know
if
it's
appointment,
they're
dropping
it
off.
You
know
I
understand
the
the
quietness
of
that
neighborhood
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
put
something
in
the
endless
that
you
know
the
neighbors
have
the
right
that
if
it's
becomes
a
problem,
if
traffic
becomes,
you
know
noticeably
busier
that
you
know
they
can
have
the
code
enforcer
coming
and,
and
at
that
point
you
know
you
guys
would
have
to
get
a
commercial
site.
J
G
J
G
J
J
O
G
G
A
Well,
it's
definitely
definitely
a
tough
call.
I
can
definitely
see
both
sides.
I
does
meet
the
requirement.
So
again,
if
the
motion
was
made
to
approve,
you
could
include
the
conditional
put
put
the
tree
in
to
meet
that
requirement,
for
example,
and
sidewalk
I
guess
if
you're
so
chose,
but
then
again,
on
the
other
hand,
how
much
weight
does
the
board
put
in
what
seems
to
be
a
fairly
overwhelming
number
of
neighbors
that
are
objecting
to
this
variance.
R
H
Look
at
the
at
best.
We
just
request
a
waiver
right
to
protest
because
we
really
don't
want
to
stand
alone
on
one
house
putting
in
the
sidewalk.
We
just
think
that's
what
the
way
very
right
choice
tests.
If
they
were
to
go
through
then,
yes,
you
have
to
do
it
at
the
same
time
as
everybody
else,
but
no,
we
wouldn't
typically
I
mean
I'm,
saying
not
saying
you
guys
can't,
but
we
generally
wouldn't
just
put
a
single
sidewalk
in
the
front.
A
R
A
A
R
M
R
M
R
A
A
A
M
M
Guess
all
of
the
Lots
they
meet
the
minimum
requirements.
This
rezone
would
create
a
transition
zone
between
the
r3,
which
is
multi-family
residential.
That
is
a
long,
2nd
Street,
and
it
would
create
a
buffer
between
the
r1
by
stepping
it
to
our
two.
So
we
go
r3
r2,
r1
and
currently
there
are
no
properties
that
are
adjacent
to
these
proposed
rezoning.
A
E
A
M
That
I'm,
anticipating
just
I,
think
that
there
was
interest
in
these
Lots
to
develop
them
with
duplex.
There
is
also
other
are
two
areas
or
zoning
districts
within
the
area
and
then,
like
I,
said,
there's
our
three
that
and
that's
a
nice
buffer
zone,
because
second
street
is
a
collector
so
that
we
have
transition.
M
A
M
E
A
M
All
right,
thank
you,
Mark.
So
when
I
talked
to
you
guys,
last
meeting
I
said
that
this
was
going
to
be
I
was
gonna,
have
the
ordinance
amendment
in
front
of
you
ready
for
action,
but
actually,
when
I
was
drafting,
it
I
still
had
some
questions
that
I
wanted
to
discuss
with
you
guys
so
I'm
presenting
it
as
if
it
as
like
it
will
look
when
it
comes
to
you
as
an
ordinance
amendment,
and
we
also
do
have
a
public
hearing.
M
M
So
right
now
we're
proposing
that
the
minimum
lot
size,
not
width,
would
be
5000
square
feet.
The
minimum
lot
width
would
be
50
feet.
The
minimum
side
yard
setback
last
meeting
we
discussed
having
six
feet
on
one
side
and
nine
feet
on
the
other,
and
then
that
we
would
have
a
fifty
five
percent
maximum
lot
coverage
to
alleviate
drainage
issues
and
then
also
keep
these
homes
within
being
affordable
and
then
also
shared
walls
between
lot
lines
would
be
allowable.
M
As
long
as
each
lot
and
home
had
sufficient
50
foot
frontage
and
then
that
these
Lots
would
have
nine
foot
side
yard
setbacks
as
they
went,
they
could
share
a
wall
and
then
gain
some
space
on
the
side
yards.
So
some
of
the
questions
and
then
I
would
like
to
discuss
and
have
answered
before
we
bring
the
actual
ordinance
amendment
in
front
of
you
would
be
we've
talked,
should
we
have
a
20
foot
of
contiguous,
curb
frontage,
and
that
idea
is
so.
M
Then
we
have
on
street
parking
with
these
being
smaller
lot
widths
and
then
should-should
driveway,
curb
cuts
be
limited,
and
that
was
we've
had
discussion.
Where
would
we
say
that
you
can
have
I
think
the
last
conversation
was
eighteen
or
twenty,
that
your
driveway
would
only
be
able
to
be
that
wide
at
the
curb
cut
to
go
onto
the
street,
and
that
would
also
be
for
parking
and
then
our
on
street
parking
and
then
should
one
side
yard
setback
be
required
to
be
at
least
nine
feet.
M
We
talked
about
that
because
so
then
people
were
able
to
access
their
backyard
and
is
fifty
five
percent
maximum
lot
coverage
appropriate.
So
those
are
all
just
discussion
points
and
like
I,
have
in
the
recommendation.
Staff
recommends
no
action,
but
public
hearing
and
discussion
on
the
following
questions
and
input
from
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
public
so
that
the
ordinance
amendment
is
able
to
have
action
taken
at
the
June
21st
2018
Planning
Commission
meeting.
A
M
S
Karen,
thank
you.
I
should
remember
to
do
that.
Part
of
the
purpose
of
a
public
right-of-way
is
parking
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
and
it
bothers
me
when
I
see
gigantic
driveways
taking
up
the
entire
public
right-of-way.
It's
essentially
the
private
property
owner,
taking
away
the
public
parking
too
for
their
own
use
on
their
own
property,
because
you
can't
block
a
driveway
on
the
street.
So
there's
really
no
reason
that
someone
should
have
a
wide
driveway
on
a
narrow
lot.
S
They
can't
put
away
garage
on
the
narrow
lot
or
they
won't
be
able
to
have
a
house.
So
it's
the
purpose
of
the
zone
is
to
provide
less
expensive
Lots
so
that
people
can
build
affordable
houses
and
I
would
presume
these
houses
would
be
small
and
they
won't
have
huge
garages
and
that
a
minimal
driveway
width
would
be
sufficient.
And
how
do
we
decide?
What's
sufficient
or
not?
I
personally
am
leaning
toward
even
less
than
Brandi
was
seen
for
a
driveway
width
at
12.
S
Feet
is
perfectly
wide
enough
to
get
access
to
a
garage
if
you
want
wider
than
that,
it's
so
that
you
can
have
a
garage
with
extra
berths
and
go
straight
in
from
the
road
and
that's
a
luxury.
Maybe
you
should
buy
a
bigger
lot
somewhere
else
in
this
zone,
where
we
really
want
to
limit
the
size
so
that
it
remains
affordable.
I,
think
a
lot
of
folks
are
only
going
to
be
able
to
have
one
car
on
their
driveway
or
they're,
going
to
be
exceeding
the
maximum
impervious
surface
anyway.
S
S
So
I
I
suggested
that
we
have
at
least
25
20
feet
of
contiguous
parking
area
in
case
they
have
their
driveway
in
the
middle
of
the
lot
and
then
there's
two
danglers
on
either
side,
neither
of
which
is
large
enough
for
a
car
and
then
the
neighbor
has
you
know
it
could
be.
How
do
we
decide
if
it's
right
or
wrong
so
I
want
to
look
at
that
I'm
thinking.
S
12
feet
is
more
of
a
what
we
should
allow
for
a
driveway
width
and
then
they
can
go
wider
as
long
as
they
leave
at
least
20
feet
on
the
road.
So
if
you
have
enough
room
to
have
an
18
foot
wide
driveway
or
a
20
foot
wide
driveway
and
there's
still
20
feet
of
contiguous
space
on
the
curb,
then
that
would
be
okay,
but
if
widening
your
driveway
from
12
to
18
now
means
no
one
can
park
on
the
street.
S
S
We
would
we
would
have
to
make
a
note.
This
zone
is
going
to
have
more
restrictions
than
our
regular,
our
one
zone,
our
one
zoned.
It
has
no
limit
to
the
impervious
area.
You
can
build
a
gigantic
house
and
have
everything
impervious
and
you
won't
be
violating
our
code.
It
won't
be
very
nice
for
the
neighborhood,
but
you
won't
be
violating
our
code.
Now
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
leaving
a
nice
neighborhood.
We
don't
want
to
turn
into
a
sea
of
asphalt,
because
those
are
small,
Lots
5,000
square
feet
is
pretty
small.
Okay,.
E
S
Here's
how
I
would
phrase
that
control
the
width
of
driveway,
that's
allowable
in
the
zone,
a
maximum
of
12
feet
unless
you
can
do
wider
and
still
maintain
at
least
20
feet.
So
we
could
write
that
would
be
easier
for
us
to
write
than
to
try
and
wrap
those
things
in
so
a
maximum
of
12
feet
unless
there's
at
least
20
feet
of
continuous,
curb
available
with
a
wider.
N
E
S
S
N
You're
not
going
to
the
footprint
is.
This
is
the
square
footage
that
you're
concerned
about
I
could
go
three
stories
high
with
a
three
style
garage
and
you
don't
care
right,
I,
don't
care,
okay,
we're
not
gonna
get
into,
and
do
you
have
the
since
you're
kind
of
thinking
I
mean
I'm,
assuming
they're
gonna
want
more
living
space
than
that,
but
so,
if
you're
thinking
that
it
does
just
have
a
one
style
garage,
what
is
your
street
within
this
Brandie?
If
you're
thinking,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
on
street
parking?
S
Street
with
we
aren't
talking
about
street
width
is
definitely
a
conversation,
we're
going
to
have
on
a
different
day.
This
weren't
we're
only
talking
about
the
lot
and
the
private
property
requirements,
not
the
public
right-of-way
requirements.
So
the
the
curb
cut
is
your
access
to
your
private
property
from
the
public
street
and
the
trend
has
been
wider
and
we
wider
and
wider
and
wider
driveway.
So
people
can
go
straight
in
there
wider
than
our
streets.
The
driveways
are
wider
than
the
streets
and
I
think
that's
excessive
I.
Don't
want
to
encourage
that
here.
A
With
regard
the
the
setbacks,
I
think
I've
been
contacted
by
at
least
one
contractor.
That's
is
concerned
about
the
9
foot
setback
the
6
foot,
a
9
foot,
suggesting
that
both
setbacks
should
be
6
feet,
the
rationale
being
that
if
someone
when
they're
building
their
house
can
if
they
want
to
get
to
their
backyard,
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
for
having
a
9
foot
setback
with
that.
A
S
Actually
liked
the
9
foot
thing
so
a
vehicle
can
get
in
the
back
and
we
have
had
some
situations
where
houses
don't
have
any
access
to
their
back
yard
and
then
there's
a
problem
for
storage
and
for
for
making
changes
and
the
9
foot
is
not
huge,
but
it's.
It
was
really
hard
to
even
get
a
vehicle
there,
but
you
could
physically
do
it
six
feet.
No
you're,
not
gonna
get
a
vehicle
in
the
back.
S
If
you
need
one
and
so
you're
gonna
have
to
rely
on
getting
to
the
back
yard
if
if
work
needs
to
be
done
back
there
for
some
reason,
how
do
you
physically
get
equipment
back
there
with
a
6
foot
setback?
That's
a
challenge
so
I
like
it,
but
I
mean
it's.
We
have
six
foot
setbacks
on
both
sides
in
our
other
zones
too.
So
I
guess
that
would
be
up
to
you
to
decide
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
and
then
also
if
we
have
a
shared
wall
and
there's
only
one
setback.
R
S
Doesn't
count
the
overhang
so
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
good
question
and
it's
debatable.
You
can
have
pros
and
cons
on
both
sides
of
that,
and
and
for
me
it's
not
a
deal-breaker,
but
I
did
I
mean
we
originally
proposed
it
as
6
feet
and
someone
brought
that
up
about
getting
access
to
the
back,
because
the
r2a
zone
is
where
we
have
the
six
foot
setbacks
and
most
of
those
Lots
have
alleys,
because
that's
the
old
part
of
town,
those
are
narrow,
Lots
as
well,
but
they
a
lot
of
them.
S
Have
alleys
and
and
people
don't
build
alleys
anymore.
It's
expensive
doesn't
lead
to
affordable
housing.
So
we're
probably
not
going
to
see
alleys,
not
that
we
would
prohibit
them,
but
it's
a
lot
of
extra
expense
and
people
won't
be
able
to
have
a
shed
that
they
can.
You
know
build
with
the
equipment
unless
they
build
it
before
they
build
their
house.
So
that's
that's
the
thinking
there
and
it'll
be
up
to
you
to
decide.
S
Another
thing
that
wasn't
in
here
that
we
did
touch
on
briefly
at
the
last
meeting
is
what
to
do
in
a
case
of
a
cul-de-sac.
Those
typically
don't
have
parking
on
street
parking
in
front
of
them
in
any
zone
and
I
think
that's
an
issue
that
we
should
probably
address
when
it's
platted
with
the
whole
block
and
a
restriction
I,
don't
but
I
think
we
should
state
it
somehow
in
this
you
know
you're
not
taking
action
this
week,
but
just
what
do
you
think
about
that?
S
I'm
kind
of
thinking
you'd
count
how
many
Lots
there
are
in
a
block,
that's
being
plaited
as
an
r1
a
and
if
it
has
a
cul-de-sac,
they
aren't
going
to
have
parking
in
front
of
them,
so
you
would
just
take
if
there's
15
Lots
there'd
have
to
be
15
contiguous
step.
You
know
pieces
of
20
feet
together,
15
increments
in
that
block
for
15
Lots,
that
that
way
you
get
the
average
of
one
per
lot.
S
So
that
means
the
straight
Lots
are
going
to
have
to
have
more
frontage,
because
the
cul-de-sac
Lots
have
less,
but
overall,
the
balance
is
there.
We
could
address
that
in
a
comment
if
we
have
cul-de-sacs
but
I
know
that
question
will
come
up
sometime
in
the
future.
We
hate
cul-de-sacs,
but
people
like
developers
like
to
put
them
in
and
if
we're
going
to
put
them
in,
let's
give
ourselves
some
cushion
on
making
it
right
for
the
people
who
live
there,
eventually,
just
something
else
to
consider
and
the
55
percent
maximum
la
coverage.
S
S
We
expanded
it
because
of
the
need
for
garages
and
driveways
and
then
having
a
place
to
park
next
to
your
garage.
If
we
don't
want
these
small
lots
to
be
cluttered
with
everybody's
junk,
because
the
light
is
so
small,
they
can't
have
a
garage
or
the
lot
is
so
small.
They
don't
have
enough
room
for
a
big
enough
garage
and
then
everything
is
all
over
the
yard.
Somebody
else
brought
that
comment
up
at
another
time,
so
I
just
want
to
mention
that
this.
M
Graphic
here
shows
what
you
could
have,
and
this
is
a
two
stall
garage,
24
foot
driveway
and
then
an
extra
9
foot
bonus
parking
spot
to
the
side
on
the
side
yard,
and
this
meets
55
percent
and
I.
Can't
remember
that
I
mean
the
house
is
built
out
to
the
extent
of
the
setbacks
too
and
I
think
that
came
to
like
1,700
square
feet,
and
then
the
patio
is
just
a
little
time
by
10.
But
you
know
what
a
basic
layout
might
look
like.
It
would
be
attainable.
S
We're
trying
to
do
real-life
situations,
and
you
know
I
small
houses.
You
still
have
enough
room
for
a
practical
house
and
we
were
really
cutting
it
with
a
45
percent
maximum.
Another
thing
to
think
about
that
I
would
like
your
input
on.
Is
the
corner
lot
requirement
for
square
footage?
We
just
have
in
all
of
our
zones.
S
We
just
add
another
thousand
feet,
but
if
you
think
about
it,
if
you
have
a
50
by
100
foot
lot,
that
corner
lot
has
25
feet
of
setback
instead
of
6,
that's
19
extra
feet
of
setback
that
you
can't
build
on.
So
if
we
want
to
make
it
a
little
bit
bigger,
we
might
want
to
go
19
by
a
hundred
because
that's
really
going
to
make
it
the
same.
S
Buildable
area,
1,900
extra
square
feet
on
a
50
by
100
foot
corner
lot
and
instead
of
a
thousand,
so
that
would
mean
a
minimum
lot
size
on
a
corner
lot
of
6900
instead
of
6,000.
So
doing
six
thousand
nine
hundred
would
give
you
the
exact
same
buildable
area
as
any
internal
lot.
Otherwise,
the
corner,
Lots
you're
gonna
be
at
getting
variance
requests
because
they
don't
have
enough
room.
S
R
R
Change
that
I
mean
I,
guess
I
know.
The
idea
is
that
this
is
kind
of
a
hard,
fast
rule
and
we're
not
going
to
have
variances
I.
Just
don't
know
how
that
well,
that's
enforced
on
the
second
or
third
owner
or
if
someone
builds
a
garage
on
the
you
know
night
and
weekend
are
we
prepared
to
enforce
that
I.
S
You
know
that
varies
from
time
to
time.
The
staff
enforces
the
ordinances
today
and
they
would
not
hear
anything
otherwise
from
me
as
long
as
I'm
mayor,
we
enforce
our
ordinances
or,
if
they're
not
enforceable,
we
change
them
or
if
we
don't
like
them,
we
change
them.
We
don't
just
look
the
other
way
and
pretend
we
don't
notice.
If
someone's
violating
an
ordinance
we
will
address
it.
S
Variances
should
be
very,
very
carefully
granted
and
there
should
be
some
conditions
that
may
this
unique
in
a
way
that
other
lots
in
the
district
aren't
before
you
would
grant
a
variance.
So
I
can't
explain
why
variance
has
been
passed
before,
but
really
you
have
criteria
for
a
variance.
There
should
be
a
hardship,
you
should
make
note
of
it
and
then
it's
a
unique
situation,
so
I
don't
see
those
as
issues
at
all.
This
is
unique
and
different
from
the
other
zones
that
we
have
with
that
maximum
coverage.
S
The
other
zones
don't
have
that
requirement,
so
you
can
put
a
gigantic
house
on
a
lot
and
cover
the
whole
thing,
and
we
have
nothing
in
our
code
to
prevent
that
this
would
be.
These
are
small
lots
and
they
have
a
maximum
coverage,
so
they're
going
to
be
small
buildings,
small
buildings,
no
matter
how
fancy
our
more
affordable
than
large
buildings
of
the
same
quality.
So
this
does
Drive,
affordable
housing
can.
H
I
can
I
ask
questions,
sure,
are
we
gonna
or
can
we
try
to
control
that
I
mean
every
time
we
do?
One
of
these
small
lot
developments
sidon
we
set
up.
Okay,
you
got
65
foot,
laps
and
all
of
a
sudden
you
go
out
and
buy
it.
Then
you're
buying
5
feet
10
feet
of
the
next
lot.
Now
they
got
a
75
foot
a
lot
and
then
I
keep
it
diminishing
and
all
the
way
down
the
line
there.
All
we.
S
Can't
happen
this
long.
One
thing
that
we
can
control
is
that
we're
writing
right
into
it:
the
maximum
coverage,
so,
no
matter
how
big
you
get
you're
not
going
to
have
more
concrete
than
55
percent
the
coverage
is,
is
the
unique
thing
about
this
zone
that
keeps
a
person
from
doing
that,
but
we
aren't.
E
S
Anybody
a
break
in
any
way
to
do
this,
so
it's
not
like
we're,
given
somebody
an
end
run
around.
If
someone
chooses
to
zone
something
r1a,
they
are
choosing
that
limitation
on
the
size
of
the
building
the
size
of
the
coverage
of
the
lot.
Otherwise,
just
go
a
little
bit
bigger
and
call
it
r1.
Then
you
can
build
as
big
of
a
house
as
you
want,
or
a
small.
N
N
N
R
N
S
If
I
guess,
we
could
go
there,
but
in
general,
it's
more
expensive
to
build
a
two-story
house,
and
so,
if
you're,
it's
not
going
to
necessarily
be
affordable
and
you
have
more
freedom
in
an
r1
zone,
then
you
will
have
in
an
r1
as
owned.
So
I
think
this
is
naturally
going
to
lead
people
who
want
to
do
that
to
a
different
zone.
I.
M
N
S
E
N
Feet
I
mean
I.
What
do
you
guys
feel
I
mean
am
I
just
opening
a
can
of
worms?
That's
not
need
to
be
opened
or
I
mean
I,
don't
know
because
I
just
see
it,
then
all
of
a
sudden,
my
house,
that's
three
storey
is
okay.
I'm,
just
gonna
use
simple
numbers.
The
the
neighbor
house
is
worth
you
know.
Hundred
thousand
and
now
my
house,
that's
three
storeys
high
is
now
worth
one
hundred
seventy
five
thousand
in
the
same
neighborhood.
S
Someone
uses
this
zone
to
build
fancier
houses
than
the
minimum.
Then
they
aren't
meeting
the
need
for
affordable
housing.
Maybe
but
I,
don't
necessarily
want
to
stop
that
I'm,
not
giving
them
any
kickback
for
zoning.
This
way,
Northridge
got
a
kick
back.
They
got
to
build
a
less
expensive
Road
on
the
promise
that
they
do
affordable
housing
and
then
oops.
It
didn't
become
affordable
housing.
We're
not
talking
about
that
we're
making
smaller
requirements,
but
we're
limiting
the
size
of
the
building.
S
That's
that's
what
we're
limiting
the
size
of
the
coverage
on
the
lot,
which
will
lead
to
less
expense.
If
someone
builds
it
out
of
marble-
and
it's
really
super
expensive
I
mean
we
can't,
we
don't
want
to
interfere
with
anyone's
personal
choice
that
way,
but
we
certainly
could
do
a
height
restriction.
I
I
could
see
maybe
doing
that
I.
R
Think
a
height
restriction,
I,
don't
know
what
the
formula
would
be,
but
I
think
there
should
be
restriction
on
height,
because
you're
gonna
get
somebody.
That's
gonna,
build
that
three-story
house
and
block
the
Sun,
and
you
know
the
neighbors
won't
be
able
to
grow
a
grass
type
of
thing.
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
I!
Think.
S
H
H
N
S
Don't
feel
like
if
someone
were
to
build
a
house
that
isn't
considered
affordable,
that
they
have
wrecked
anything
or
ruined
their
plants,
or
anything
like
that.
It's
it's
a
zoning
tool
that
someone
can
use
to
plant
more
Lots
along
a
street
and
if
they
decide
to
build
a
bigger
house
within
these
limitations
that
we've
set
they're
just
going
to
bring
up.
Probably
the
the
value
of
the
other
homes
are
on
them,
if
they're
worth
more
because
they
have
more
bedrooms
or
bigger
garages
or
whatever
and.
M
Even
from
like
the
builder
standpoint,
isn't
more
expensive
to
build
up
so
then,
why
would
you
want
to
do
that
when
you're
trying
to
turn
these
houses
over-
and
this
is
your
transition
district
most
likely,
and
then
you
will
have
r1
where
you
can
allow?
You
can
sell
a
lot,
but
I
I
have
a
feeling
these
are
going
to
be
utilized
by
builders.
Doing
big
projects
with
you
know,
I'd.
S
Be
open
to
height
restriction
if
you
thought
it
was
a
an
important
thing,
in
fact,
we'll
write
one
up
for
your
consideration
at
the
next
meeting.
Next
meeting
will
not
be
a
public
hearing.
This
is
the
public
hearing,
but
you
can
debate
it
and
make
a
motion
to
include
or
exclude
whatever
provisions
how
about
that.
Oh,
it
is
I.
S
A
M
U
About
28
years
in
believe
me
Rhonda,
we
all
know
it's
been
a
big
issue
and
I
really
feel
that
if
we
want
the
city
to
continue
to
grow,
we
have
to
furnish
affordable
housing.
We
have
to
have
it
available
to
people
to
the
contractors
and
everybody
so
that
it
can't
happen,
because
if
we
don't
get
more
housing
that
is
affordable
to
the
income
base,
now,
where
is
it?
Where
is
it
gonna?
Go
we're
not
gonna
get
any
new
people.
That's
my
two
cents.
U
K
K
Area
tech,
but
also
with
a
couple
of
committees
in
town.
So
my
point
is
that
that
Watertown
has
a
desperate
need
for
work,
workforce
housings.
What
is
the
term
I'd
like
to
use
instead
of
affordable?
We
need
to
be
able
to
attract
young
workers
into
Watertown.
We
need
housing
for
them,
and
this
will
this
lays
out
the
guidelines
for
enticing
developers
to
do
such
developments.
You
know
if
you
no
matter
what's
gonna
happen.
K
You're
always
gonna
have
somebody
that
if
they
can
put
a
more
expensive
house
on
it,
they'll
try
to
do
it
and
that's
why
I
think
you
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
enforcing
having
having
the
55%
I
think
is
important
and
I
think
enforcing.
That
will
be
important
down
the
road
because,
exactly
as
you
say,
as
soon
as
people
started,
having
large
garages
or
these
types
of
things
we'll
see
that,
but
we
needed
both
for
our
workforce
and
Lake
area
tech
can
use
it.
Also.
K
A
K
I
think
I
think
you
need
access
to
the
back
yards.
You
know
unless
the
only
thing
I
could
see
a
stipulation
on
that
is
to
let
it
be
6
foot
on
both
sides.
If
there
is
an
alley
access,
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
alley
access
or
not
in
any
of
these,
but
otherwise
I
think
you'd
have
to
have
one
side
that
is
9
foot,
otherwise
you're
in
access.
A
R
Yes,
I
I
agree
with
both
that
we
need
work,
force,
housing,
I,
guess
my
concern
is,
and
maybe
I've
been
spoiled
every
every
home,
I
guess:
I've
owned
I've
had
a
garage
type
of
thing
and
probably
bigger
that
I
have
needed,
but
I
guess.
My
question
is:
if
we
build
it,
will
they
come
I
like
the
idea
of
the
r1a,
but
is
it?
U
Thousand
dollar
house,
so
we
do
need
work,
force,
housing
and
we
do
need
affordable
homes
unless
all
the
employers
and
this
town
want
to
bump
up
the
wages
that
they
all
can
afford
it.
Yes,
that
would
be
not
maybe
something
that
that
the
employers
want
to
do
is
increase
the
wages
here,
but
that's
a
problem,
because
if
you
don't
make
enough
money,
you
can't
buy
a
house
if
you
can
afford
a
house
and
this
goal
for
it.
Why
not?
We
have
perfectly
and
know
so.
What
do
you
think.
A
In,
in
your
view,
what
is
what
is
the
as
I've
asked,
this
question
before
and
I
got
in
various
different
answers.
In
your
view,
with
your
28
years
experience
in
the
real
estate
market,
what
is
the
what's
where's,
the
wheelhouse?
What
are
we?
What?
What
is
the
price
tag
on
the
houses
on
these
Lots?
Okay,.
N
U
N
U
N
U
And
I
think
if
we
can
get
a
bunch
of
them
in
contracted
to
come
in,
you
know
like
we
used
to
have
the
habitat
no
not
have,
except
what
was
that
group
that
was
called
I,
can't
think
of
their
name.
Now
the
happy
homes
yeah
they
actually
not
necessarily
happy.
But
there
was
a
group
that
built
like
six
six
Lots
and
then
the
six
families
would
help
with
a
director
to
make
sure
everything
was
going
properly.
U
I
can't
I
can't
yeah
something
like
that
anyway,
they're
all
bonded,
because
we
don't
have
any
affordable
Lots
for
them
to
build
on.
They
actually
moved
to
Brookings
and
they're
building
a
lot.
We
took
a
trip
down
to
Brookings
and
seen
what
they're
doing
down
there
and
they're
building
a
lot
of
workforce,
affordable
housing,
three
bedrooms
single
garages
and
place
to
park
on
the
street.
U
A
T
Don't
think
there's
any
real
question
that
we
absolutely
need
some
sort
of
solution.
I,
guess
the
question
is:
how
best
do
we
execute
it
mayor?
What
was
them?
What
was
the
input
from
developers,
local
developers
in
terms
of
these
setbacks
and
lot
sizes
and
stuff
like
that?
Is
there
people
giving
us
a
thumbs
up
or
a
thumbs
down,
or
is
there
any
sort
of
employment
generally.
S
Six
feet
was
thought
to
be
practical,
but
when
you're
building
I
think
it's
easy
enough,
once
you're
gone
and
the
person's
there
with
no
alley
act,
no
secondary
access
to
the
rear.
How
do
they
get
back
there
and
and
we've
seen
situations
like
that?
They
have
to
get
permission
to
go
across
neighbors
yards
and
sometimes
that's
not
possible,
especially
in
a
neighborhood
with
a
bunch
of
small
Lots.
E
S
T
S
Were
yes
and
I
mean
we
didn't
have
any
vote
on
what
we
thought
was
good,
just
pretty
much
head
nods
and
this
seems
practical
and,
like
sherry
said,
if
we
can
get
a
string
of
them
together,
that's
what's
where
it's
really
gonna
be
at
people.
Can
boom
boom
boom
build
ten
foundations
on
you
know.
At
the
same
time,
then
ten
frames
go
up
and
then
you
can
really
cut
down
on
the
cost
of
building.
If
you
can
get
that
quantity
going
is.
T
There
any
likelihood
that
we'll
see
sort
of
small
skill,
development,
I
guess
maybe
ten
at
a
time,
isn't
very
large-scale,
but
when
I
see
this
stuff,
I,
always
kind
of
think
small
and
kind
of
incremental
and
organic
growth,
as
opposed
to
doing
you
know,
a
section
of
these
time
is:
what's
your
vision
in
terms
of?
Are
we
gonna
do
half
a
block
of
these?
That's.
S
Kind
of
what
I'm
thinking
is
from
along
a
frontage
from
one
street
to
the
next,
that
the
whole
entire
length
would
be
this
zone
and
you'd
get
as
many
Lots
as
you
could
in
there
and
half
of
a
block,
and
hopefully
we'll
see
some
of
those
types
of
developments
occurring.
But
it's
a
it's
just
a
tool.
We
can't
force
people
to
use
it
and
I
apologize.
T
N
S
S
There's
maybe
not
as
much
profit
in
building
small
houses,
but
we're
trying
to
make
it
as
affordable
as
possible
by
reducing
our
standards,
to
the
point
that
we
think
is
minimally
acceptable
and
that's
what
this
is
I,
don't
think
we
have
that
right
now,
a
lot
of
cities
have
smaller
Lots
allowable
for
us
in
watertown,
the
smallest
lot
you
can
plat
today,
a
new
subdivision
is
75
feet
of
frontage
and
9,000
square
feet
of
area.
So
this
is
significantly
smaller
than
that
with
50.
Instead
of
75
photo
frontage
and
5,000
versus
9,000
square
feet
with.
N
S
You
can
address
so
that's
different.
We
aren't
suggesting
anything
different.
Those
aren't
found
in
the
zoning
regulations
for
Lots
those
are
found
in
our
street
standards
and
we
right
now
we're
not
suggesting
any
narrower
streets
or
fewer
requirements.
Sidewalks
are
required
on
both
sides
of
every
street
in
all
zoning
districts.
So
you
know
we
let
them
off
the
hook,
often
in
industrial
zones.
M
M
So
none
of
our
subdivision
regulations
will
change
other
than
we'll
be
adding
this
district
to
title
21
as
another
zoning
option,
but
then
for
new
development.
If
a
developer
wants
to
come
in
and
is
working
on
their
preliminary
plan,
that's
something
that
comes
to
you
guys
and
you
study
it
and
then
put
your
input
and
you
ultimately
approve
that.
So
that's
where
I
mean
you'll,
see
it.
J
M
Really
I
do
think
it
actually
is
a
good
thing
to
have
written
into
the
ordinance
and
I
was
thinking
right
away
at
six
foot
on
both
sides
too,
but
it
would
be
the
city
doing
the
homebuyer
service
because
the
developer
might
come
in
and
build
this
house
and
no
buyer.
Beware
of
that.
You
might
not
be
able
to
get
to
your
backyard
someday.
So
us
just
saying
you
nine
feet
on
one
side,
then
we're
we're
doing
people
a
service
that
way
it's!
It's.
J
T
M
Okay,
so
to
recap,
kind
of
on
the
questions
and
I
think
that
we
have
the
show
20
feet
of
contiguous
curved
frontage,
be
required
and
should
driveway
curb
cuts,
be
limited.
I
think
that
the
discussion
led
us
to
the
consensus
that
12-foot
maximum
driveway
with
unless
or
it
can
be
larger.
If
there's
20
feet
of
contiguous
curb
frontage,
so
then
they
go
hand-in-hand
together
and
then
should
one
side
yard
setback
be
required
to
be
at
least
9
feet.
M
A
M
A
M
Lot
with
so
then
they
will
have
20
feet,
but
so
this
is
allowing
if
somebody
has
the
frontage
or
they'd
they
designed
their
lot
right.
Where
then
they
have
a
two
stall
garage,
they
could
still
have
a
24
foot
driveway
for
the
two
stall
garage
and
then,
but
as
long
as
they
left
20
feet
of
contiguous
or.
S
K
H
L
S
S
Setbacks
are
the
setbacks.
The
lot
area
on
a
corner,
lot,
I'm,
suggesting
I,
think
will
write
it
in
and
you
can
change
it
out.
I
think
we
should
make
it
larger
corner
lot,
so
they
aren't
coming
for
a
variance
because
they're
a
corner
lot
and
they
have
no
buildable
area
because
they
have
this
giant
setback
on
two
sides
and
so
just
write
it
right
in
there.
Then
there's
no
need
for
a
future
variance.
M
N
S
Have
a
that
much
more
spacial
requirement
that
on
a
minimum
size
lot
50
feet
five
thousand
square
feet.
That
would
be
a
hundred
foot
lot.
So
19
extra
feet
times
a
hundred
or
you
know,
that's
1,900
feet,
so
that
would
be
1,900
instead
of
1,000,
which
is
what
we
proposed.
Then
you
you
aren't
going
to
be
faced
with,
while
I'm
a
corner
a
lot.
Everyone
else
on
my
block
has
2,000
square
feet
of
buildable
area.
N
S
N
M
M
S
Is
part
of
the
reason
and
also
when
you
go
around
the
corner,
sometimes
a
house
faces
one
side:
sometimes
it
faces
the
other.
It
won't
be
uniform
if
you're
doing
that
and
I
know,
we
violated
that
all
over
the
place
in
town,
because
we've
done
the
same
size,
a
lot
all
down
the
block
and
then
every
corner
lot
has
a
hardship
because
they
don't
have
enough
buildable
area
and
I'm.
Just
saying,
let's
head
that
off
at
the
pass,
let's
demand
enough
buildable
area
figure
out
what
that
bare
minimum
is
demand
it
of
every
lot.
H
S
S
N
S
S
M
Topic
that
we
talked
about
was
limiting
the
height
so
we'll
bring.
When
we
bring
this
to
you
in
two
weeks,
then
we'll
have
that
in
there
about
two
storeys
and
then
this
is
public
right
now.
So
then,
if
people
have
issues-
and
they
can
come
to
the
public
hearing
at
that
meeting
and
express
why
that
would
be
an
issue
actually
with
any
of
this,
that
we've
talked
about.
A
M
S
M
M
A
A
A
M
Was
just
going
to
let
everybody
know
that
tomorrow,
at
6:30
at
the
event
center,
there
will
be
a
community
workshop
involving
the
camp
Eskom
Astor
plan.
So
if
anybody
is
available
and
would
like
to
participate,
it'll
be
good
discussion
and
everybody
should
be
a
part
of
it.
So
and
then
at
6
o'clock,
they're
unveiling
the
bike
trail
for
the
camp
Eska.
So
the
connections
there.