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From YouTube: Finance & Safety Meeting 05 11 2018
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Finance & Safety Meeting agenda for May 11, 2018
Agenda Items include a Sports Tourism Presentation by Jon Schmieder.
A
Approved
agenda
this
time,
if
there's
anyone
the
audience
that
would
like
to
make
a
public
comment
for
any
topic
that
is
not
on
the
agenda.
Now
is
the
time
this
is,
for
you
know
what
complying
to
the
Open
Meeting
Law
is.
If
there
is
anyone
now's
the
time
if
not
okay.
Well,
move
on
I
am
going
to
turn
this
over
now
to
Julie
Knutson,
our
executive
director
of
our
convention,
Visitors
Bureau,
to
explain
who
she
brought
with
her
today
and
the
purpose
of
meeting
and
I'll.
A
B
B
I
have
with
me
today:
John
Schmieder,
he's
our
Phoenix
Arizona
I.
Think
if
everybody
read
the
email,
John
is
very
well
rounded
has
a
lot
of
experience
with
sports
tourism,
national
sports
Commission's,
as
well
he's
here
to
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
our
facility.
Maybe
some
things
he's
worked
on
and
markets
that
are
similar
sizes,
ours
and
we
I've
taken
him
home
to
see
the
facilities
and
will
give
us
a
proposal.
What
we're
looking
for
cities,
maybe
bringing
in
somebody
to
really
utilize
facilities.
C
You
Julie
and
thanks
Council
for
having
us
today,
I'm
just
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
national
scene,
as
Julie
mentioned,
I'm
been
involved
for
20-plus
years,
and
the
sports
tourism
seen
nationally,
including
chairing
the
National
Association
of
Sports
Commission's,
which
last
week
and
I'll
show
you
some
some
information
about
them.
But
their
annual
meeting
was
in
Minneapolis,
the
street
Jullien
team
and
some
of
your
other
area
communities
attended.
C
Some
of
the
your
state,
tourism
staff,
attended,
I,
think
you've
been
the
last
two
years
now
and
there
was
over
a
thousand
people
that
event,
which
is
the
largest
assembly
of
sports
tourism
communities
that
we've
ever
had,
and
so
our
industry
is
growing
exponentially
year.
Over
year,
we've
had
double-digit
growth
for
20
straight
years
in
the
sports
tourism
market,
and
that's
why
communities
like
yours
are
coming
forward
and
wanting
to
really
get
in
this
game.
C
So
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
who
we
are
being
the
guy
from
Phoenix
and
kind
of
what
we
do
and
then
I'll
talk
about
the
national
scene
and
then
how
it
applies
here.
So
we
were
founded.
Six
years
ago,
we've
worked
with
over
50
destinations.
Most
of
them
are
markets,
the
same
size
as
you
or
even
smaller.
All
the
way
down
to
one
of
our
clients
is
London.
Kentucky
population,
9,000
people,
I,
didn't
know
there
was
a
lot
in
Kentucky
until
they
called
us.
C
We've
done
over
a
hundred
strategic
planning
sessions
or
projects
with
those
communities.
We've
been
rehired
several
times,
which
is
great
for
us,
we're
going
to
oh
Claire
Wisconsin
next
week
for
a
reboot
of
the
project
we
do
for
them
four
years
ago,
a
lot
of
them
do
with
with
capital,
not
just
physical
facilities,
which
we
as
Julie
mentioned.
We
saw
some
today
but
human
capital
structure.
C
So
this
is
your
first
acronym
of
the
afternoon
NESC,
which
I
mentioned
National
Association
of
Sports
Commission's.
You
are
a
member
one
of
the
thousand
members
that
they
have
now
now
that
I'm
one
of
the
older
guys
in
that
room.
You
know
back
in
my
day
when
I
started
attending
that
show
I
joked
this
morning
at
breakfast
that
the
first
one
I
went
to
in
1998.
C
We
actually
had
less
than
a
hundred
people
in
the
room
and
we
did
the
whole
event
in
a
Holiday
Inn
meeting
with
with
a
speaker
dais
where
we
just
rotated
the
program
through
there
was
no
exhibitors.
There
was
over
100
exhibitors.
Last
week
in
Minneapolis
there
was
no
off-site
hospitality
shows.
We
went
to
us
Bank
Stadium,
for
the
opening
reception.
It's
a
totally
different
world
and
the
reason
why
I
show
you
this
graph
of
the
the
last
ten
years
of
growth
of
the
Association
is
to
re-emphasize
what
I've
already
said.
C
These
are
all
small
and
mid
market
bureaus
they're,
not
sports
commissions
they're,
not
the
dome
big
cities
like
Atlanta
and
Dallas
who've
been
at
this
a
long
time
their
cities,
just
like
you,
their
cities,
just
like
your
neighbors
down
the
street
Sioux
Falls
has
been
active
in
the
space
for
a
long
time
and
they've
been
they're,
pretty
good
at
it,
and
now
the
other
markets
around
this
area
are
now
looking
at
it
and
that's
why
partially,
why
we're
here,
but
I'm,
going
to
show
you
a
little?
This
is
DuPage
County
Illinois.
C
If
you're
familiar
it's
basically
the
west
side
of
O'hare.
This
picture
is
supposed
to
give
you
a
headache.
So
I
won't
leave
it
up
there
for
long,
but
we
will
just
wanted
to
show
do
pages
leadership
of
the
types
of
competition.
That's
around
them
and
know
you
guys
aren't
on
the
left
side
of
this,
but
basically
there.
C
These
are
just
the
really
really
active,
long-standing
CVB's
and
Sports
Commission's
that
are
trying
to
take
new
pages
business,
including
the
30-plus
CBeebies
that
are
just
in
sports
Illinois,
which
is
their
statewide
sports
group,
which
is
something
I
think
we're
broaching
here
in
this
state.
Is
there
a
play
for
that
a
regional
or
a
statewide
play?
We
would
touch
on
that
in
our
process,
which
I'll
talk
about
in
a
minute,
but
just
to
give
you
an
idea.
These
are
100
mile
circle,
radius
circles
and
you,
as
you
can
see,
I
mean
just
in
your
neighborhood.
C
There
are
a
lot
of
really
good
players,
and
so
our
goal
as
a
consultancy
to
you
would
be.
How
do
we
differentiate
ourselves
with
the
budget,
the
staff
and
the
facilities
we
had
today?
Whether
or
not
a
new
facility
I
think
the
ice
sheet?
One
has
come
up
whether
or
not
that
ever
gets
built.
You
know
how
do
we
play
tomorrow
better
than
we
play
today
in
structure
and
human
capital
and
budget,
so
our
typical
process
is
this
would
be
if
we
started
this
tomorrow.
Basically,
in
June
we
do
a
complete
stakeholder
audit.
C
We
audit
everything
you're
doing
today,
like
you're
going
to
nasc
and
your
marketing
and
your
Julie
herself
is
your
sales
arm
for
sports
right
now
we
evaluated
all
that
we
look
at
budgets
how
the
CVB
engages
in
this
Wars
towards
the
market.
We
interview
all
the
folks
I
talked
about
earlier.
The
stakeholder
groups
are
try
and
get
everybody
inside
that
tent
and
we're
trying
to
identify
themes
and
by
that
the
themes
could
be.
C
Our
facilities
are
great
and
underutilized
or
our
people
power
is
great,
but
they
don't
have
any
budget
or
our
state
can
support
us
better
in
a
different
way.
There's
a
myriad
of
things
that
can
come
up
and
all
we're
trying
to
do
is
identify
what
type
of
puzzle
we
have
here
and
we're
trying
to
make
all
the
pieces
fit,
and
so
my
team
has
been
at
this
as
I
mentioned
six
years,
but
before
that
are
two
primary
people
myself
and
Gary
Alexander
of
Nashville.
C
C
Excuse
me
so
then,
what
lookup
we
would
come
to
town
and
do
more
in-depth
venue
tours
interviews
meeting
with
council
meeting
with
the
stakeholders
in
this
room:
hospitality
community,
especially
getting
them
on
board.
We
would
then
go
home
and
we
would
start
writing.
We
put
a
competitive
analysis
together
national
best
practices,
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
some
other
cities.
We've
worked
with
or
somewhat
similar,
and
then
we
would
overlay
that
and
come
back
with
a
game
plan
and
present
it
to
you.
C
First,
the
CVB
board
elected
officials
and
then
to
the
community
at
large
as
well,
and
have
open
dialogue
around
some
of
the
recommendations
we
make.
In
this
case
it
we
will
most
likely
comment
on
the
on
any
new
facility
ideas.
We
would
comment
on
the
structure
of
the
staff,
the
the
human
resources
compared
to
your
competitive
set.
C
We
would
comment
on
how
your
marketing,
with
what
resources
you
do
have,
and
if
you
had
more
how
you
do
better
with
with
more
weather
that
comes
from
the
state
or
or
more
of
the
bid
money
or
whatever
your
structure
is
in
this
area,
and
then
we
always
book
follow-up
time
afterwards,
because
once
we
turn
over
the
playbook
or
literally
hand
her
playbook.
That
says
this
is
what
we're
gonna
do
tomorrow
and
here's
what
we're
gonna
do
down
the
road
so
literally
just
follow
the
plays
just
get
up
to
the
line.
C
My
dad
is
a
football
coach,
so
get
at
the
line
of
scrimmage
and
call
the
plays
and
and
then
how
sometimes
there's
executional
issues
or
questions
they'll
have
after
that.
So
we
usually
book
time
on
the
back
to
help
with
when
you
get
stuck
on
item
number
three
on
page
seven
you'll
call
us
and
then
we'll
get
on
the
phone
and
we'll
try
and
help
you
get
unstuck
on
that
item.
C
So
just
a
just
a
few
national
things
that
we've
seen
out
there
that
have
been
really
really
positive,
best
practices
that
we'll
share
here,
especially
in
smaller
markets.
Like
this,
where
you
don't
have
a
big
convention
center
box
or
or
what
we
call
an
anchor
facility
where
you
don't
have
a
mega,
Sports
Complex,
like
a
city
like
where
I
live
in
Phoenix,
would
have
you
know.
C
We
have
320
field
soccer
complexes
to
choose
from
so
we're
pretty
blessed
in
that
respect,
but
we've
got
5
million
people
within
20
miles
of
Phoenix,
so
it's
a
lot
different
environment,
but
in
the
smaller
communities
we
work
with
utilizing
your
local
promoters.
We've
already
met
some
of
your
softball
folks
today,
down
the
street
and
where
we
were
the
last
two
days
in
Brookings
they've
got
a
great
soccer
club
that
does
a
lot
of
soccer
promotion.
We
would
as
part
of
our
report.
Undoubtedly
we
would.
C
We
would
seek
them
out
interview
them,
talk
to
them
about
what
resources
they
need
to
grow,
the
tourism
business
for
the
community,
and
then
we
would
put
in
our
recommendations
of
how
the
CVB,
in
this
case
in
the
city
could
potentially
help
them
and
engage
them
in
a
much
bigger
way
that
meets
the
mission
of
the
CVB.
In
this
case.
C
That
also
plays
into
created
events,
and
we
use
the
word
incubated,
which
means
like
the
CVB,
a
lot
of
our
CVB's
or
active
partners
in
event
creation.
They
don't
own
and
operate
the
events
they
let
the
promoters
do
that,
but
they're,
usually
the
financial
arm
and
the
volunteer
engagement
arm
to
make
the
events
bigger
and
better
and
launch
them
from
scratch,
and
then
let
the
event
promote
or
take
those
into
the
future.
C
So
that's
been
really
popular,
especially
with
a
lot
of
our
smaller
smaller
communities,
the
Parks
and
Rec
and
university
and
school
partnerships
play
into
that
they're,
the
ones
with
the
keys
to
the
kingdom
of
the
venues
in
most
places.
So
our
relationships
and
alleviating
any
any
barriers
between
schools
and
Parks
and
Rec
and
local
community
user
groups
is
something
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on,
especially
in
a
case
like
this,
where
the
bureau's
hired
us
to
help
them
grow
their
tourism
sports,
tourism
impact
oftentimes.
C
Obviously,
community
users,
you
know
I'm
sure
you
all-
have
gotten
phone
calls
when
you
have
hosted
tournaments
from
people
in
your
districts
that
have
said
hey
how
come
we
can't
play
there
on
Friday,
because
there's
some
tournament
I
know
now
my
kids
not
a
place
to
play.
We
help
with
language
of
how
to
how
to
deal
with
those
phone
calls
and
how
to
how
to
better
communicate
those
types
of
things
to
our
community
user
groups.
Same
thing
with
the
universities,
we
were
pretty
fluent
in
university
and
school
conversations,
whether
it's
high
school
university
middle
school.
C
Whoever
has
those
facilities
on
they're
their
own
teams
using
the
facilities
or
their
own
intramural
club
sports
versus
the
tourism
uses
and
how
we
collaborate.
So
we
can
even
create
championships
around
those
user
groups
that
then
engage
them
even
more
and
give
them
something
to
host
locally.
That
also
hits
the
mission
of
the
Bureau
and
what
you've
tasked
them
with
from
the
city
side
and
again,
in
this
case
I
know
she's
going
through
budgeting
process.
Right
now
for
2019,
we
always
recommend
having
a
dedicated
sports
person
if
you're
really
going
to
get
in
this
space.
C
It's
really
hard
for
a
CV
be
President
and
executive
director,
in
this
case,
to
be
wearing
15,
hats
and
sports
happens
to
be
one
of
them.
Our
industry,
like
like
most,
is
really
relationship
based,
and
it's
really
hard
to
build,
really
really
really
consistent
relationships
when
you've
got
five
other
things
on
your
plate,
and
so
we
often
recommend
a
sports
development
or
sales
person.
C
Whichever
terminology
you
want
to
use
and
then,
if
you
have
the
bandwidth
to
have
once
you
get
rolling
and
start
doing
more
tournaments,
you
need
somebody
to
service
and
run
to
help
run
those
events.
And
so,
if
you
have
the
bandwidth,
a
lot
of
our
smaller
markets
or
even
having
like
oh
claire,
has
a
sales
person
and
a
service
person.
So
one
of
them
looks
at
one
of
them:
cooks
it
to
use
a
hospitality
term.
C
So,
lastly,
there's
just
a
few
a
few
markets.
We've
worked
with
that
are
somewhat
similar
in
size
and
scope
to
what
we'd
be
talking
about
here,
Lewiston
Auburn
Maine's,
a
really
cool
case
study
I
could
go
on
for
an
hour
about
Lewiston
Auburn.
That's
where
Patrick
Dempsey's
from
dr.
McDreamy
for
you,
Grey's
Anatomy
people
he's
from
he's
from
Auburn
Maine,
his
family's
very
active.
There
they've
created
a
bike
race
around
his
family's
name,
and
he
shows
up
and
he's
kind
of
master
of
ceremonies.
But
it's
a
huge
event.
C
Small
market,
but
they're
using
sports
tours
and
lewiston-auburn
have
been
the
Hatfields
and
McCoys
for
a
hundred
years.
They've
been
fighting
for
years
and
they're.
They
have
two
new
mayors,
they're,
both
very
active
and
they're
they're,
very
elaborate,
--iv
and
now
there's
a
river
that
runs
between
the
two
cities.
C
If
you've
ever
been
there
they're
trying
to
bridge
the
river
not
to
use
a
pun
but
and
they're
using
sports
tourism
to
do
it
and
it's
really
cool
and
all
we
did
is
give
them
a
playbook
and
those
two
mayor's
are
not
going
to
let
it
go
they're.
Both
Bulldogs
they've
created
a
committee
with
both
mayor's
both
economic
development
directors,
the
chamber
folks
just
everybody
around,
and
they
don't
even
have
a
tourism
office.
C
They
jump
straight
to
sports
because
they
think
sports
can
engage
the
communities
in
a
partnership
that
they've
never
had
in
the
hundred
plus
years.
They've
been
neighbors,
and
so
that's
one.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
o'clair
I
mentioned
we're
going
back
there,
Duluth
hired
us
to
do
a
feasibility
study
on
a
hockey
facility.
Similar
to
this
conversation,
I
think
that's
going
on
in
this
community.
We
ended
up
telling
them.
C
So
if
we
were
to
come
back
and
say,
hey,
there's
a
regional
play
here
with
maybe
Brookings
and
some
of
your
other
friends
we've
done
that
a
lot
with
with
folks
like
Des
Moines,
on
how
we
deal
with
regional
play.
So
with
that
I'd
like
race
through
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff.
In
about
ten
minutes,
I'd
love
to
field
any
questions
you
have
about
our
process
or
who
we
are.
What
we
do
and
I
can
feel
any
questions
at
this
time.
A
Thanks
John
I
guess
what
I'll
do
at
this
point
is:
if
anybody
I
see,
we
have
various
different
groups
represented
out
in
the
audience,
if
you'd
like
to
have
questions
or
comments
for
John
or
Dan
Don.
If
you've
got
questions,
Weider's
open
it
up
for
a
time
as
long
as
he's
here,
let's,
let's
make
use
of
what
he
can
show
us.
D
C
Good
question:
thanks
for
that,
and
thanks
for
having
us
it's
good
to
be
here.
Second
time
we've
been
in
the
state
this
year,
I
spoke
at
the
state
tourism
conference
and
which
kind
of
led
to
this
as
well,
but
I
haven't
seen
much
I
mean
we
just
came
in
this
morning.
We
did
tour
two
facilities,
honestly
I,
think
the
new
recreation
facility
there's
new
center.
C
That
gym
is
fantastic
honestly,
that
you
know
having
five
floors
adjacent
to
each
other,
like
that
yeah
I'm,
a
basketball
guy
I
was
a
basketball
coach
in
Prior
life,
so
I
was
very
much
at
home
on
the
hardwood
and
that
in
that
building,
but
it
literally
there's
an
that
pool
for
a
short
course
sprint
stuff.
There's
no
diving
well
there,
but
I
me
as
a
sports
guy.
C
If
I
won't
put
my
Sports
Commission
hat
back
on
and
I
was
representing,
you
I
could
fill
that
building
every
weekend
with
different
things:
everything
from
table
tennis
to
cheer
to
weightlifting,
to
to
the
swimming
pool,
to
basketball.
To
that
building
with
the
the
way
it's
configured
with
the
seating
is
fantastic.
You
can
do
trade
shows
in
there.
If
you
wanted
to
I
just
see
that
as
kinda
and
I
haven't
seen
your
convention,
space
I'm
told
the
hotel,
it's
very
much
like
the
one
up
here.
C
That
I
was
in
a
couple
months
back
so
I
guess
if
it's
very
similar
I'm
familiar
with
that
meeting
space
lay
out
that
that
hotel
has
the
we
went
to
both
the
softball
baseball
complexes.
Those
are
actually
better
than
I
thought.
I
was
going
to
find
having
twelve
fields
in
a
in
a
community
that
close,
I,
think
they're
pretty
good.
Some
of
the
fencing
could
probably
be
redone
at
the
old
one
again.
These
are
really
quick.
Like
drive-by
looks,
I
didn't
stand
on
them.
C
Soccer
facility
needs
more
lights,
needs
more
fields
to
be
competitive,
you
know,
and
those
types
of
things
I
think
the
other
baseball
softball
also
need
more
lights
and
infrastructure.
The
new
one
looks
great
I
mean,
obviously
it's
brand
new,
so
it's
gonna
be
great
until
you,
you
know
over
time.
The
fields
I'll
need
need
upgrades
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I
didn't
see
any
turf.
A
lot
of
our
clients
and
climates
like
this
go
the
turf
route.
C
They
don't
host
any
local
play
on
it
at
all
in
at
elizabethtown,
which
is
unique,
and
there
are
some
cities
that
are
doing
that:
they're
building
tournament,
only
facilities
and
putting
a
long
answer
short
question,
but
a
lot
of
our
clients
that
which
wasn't
happening
ten
years
ago,
but
they're
putting
CVB
bed
tax,
money,
food
and
beverage
tax
money
into
bricks
and
mortar
facilities,
which,
ten
years
ago,
if
she'd,
has
said
that
in
front
of
you,
you
might
have
asked
for
her
head.
But
now
everybody's
doing
it.
C
And
we
have
a
big
laundry
list
of
cities
that
are
doing
that.
Many
of
them
here
in
this
region
because
of
the
weather
thing
and
honestly
because
of
control,
because
the
community
groups
who
pay
for
the
parks
and
rec
facilities
generally
and
the
schools
that
pay
for
their
facilities,
they
have
they
built
them
for
themselves.
They
didn't
build
them
for
tourism
necessarily.
C
So
a
lot
of
our
tourism
partners
are
putting
investments
into
those,
so
they
can
have
either
access
to
existing
facilities
by
enhancing
them
or
build
their
own
that
they
can
treat
as
a
tourism
facility
first
and
give
the
community
users
access.
Second,
but
from
what
I've
seen
honestly
I
saw
that
rec
facility
I'm
glad
we
went
in
there
because
that
was
because
from
the
outside
it
does
not
look
like
that.
A
E
C
Mean
the
excuse
me,
they
mean
the
end
deliverable
or
the
beyond
the
process
that
I
walked
through
I
know,
I
went
through
it
pretty
quickly,
but
the
again
we
deliver
a
playbook
and
every
every
I
mentioned
earlier.
Every
every
community
we
work
with
as
a
puzzle
and
they're
all
the
puzzle.
Pieces
are
different
and
we're
realists.
We
are
a
dance
with
who
brung
you
a
type
of
group,
so
we
will
give
short
term
fix's
that
we
can
do
tomorrow.
C
That
need
to
be
done
tomorrow
to
enhance
what
we're
already
to
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
in
the
sports
tourism
market
and
then
the
big-picture
stuff,
whether
it
is
you
know
this
ice
sheet,
you
know,
location
of
said,
I
see
what
the
impact
of
those
ice
that
ice
facility
could
be
I
know
very
limited
amount.
Just
in
a
car
drive
about
what
you
guys
have
been
considering.
We
would
evaluate
that,
but
that's
a
much
bigger
play.
C
That's
that's
longer
down
the
road
land
acquisition
and
those
types
of
things
we
would
comment
on
those,
but
we
will
literally
deliver
it's
usually
a
26
to
36,
page
report
that
says:
here's
what
we
saw.
Here's
the
SWOT
analysis
of
what
we
saw
talking
about
venues,
people
budget,
all
those
capital
things
I
talked
about
and
then
what
we
can
do
with
those
today
and
then
down
the
road.
F
C
Think
the
hockey
facility
and
again
I'm
just
using
this
example,
if
we
don't
think
it's
viable
or
possible,
we
will
say
so
and
then
it's
up
to
you
to
decide
if
you
want
to
go
down
that
rat
path
anyway,
but
we're
a
pretty
conservative
realist
group
we
want
to.
We
want
to
improve
the
tourism
market
tomorrow
and
so
we'll
tackle
that
first
with
the
strengths
weaknesses,
opportunities
threats
that
we
do
at
the
beginning.
C
So
our
report
has,
it
will
have
a
SWOT
analysis
at
the
front
and
then
it
will
talk
about
short-term
improvements
with
what
we
had
today
and
long-term
improvements,
given
opportunities
that
we
may
see
whether
it's
more
I
mentioned
earlier.
More
bid
money,
more
support
from
the
state.
I
truly
think
there
might
be
a
regional
play
here,
but
we'd
have
to
evaluate
that
with
your
neighbors
and
we'd
have
to
evaluate
it
with
you.
You
you,
as
a
council
may
not
want
to
do
that.
E
C
A
good
question,
so
in
the
in
the
very
first
phase
we
literally
phone
interview
so
we'll
ask
Julie
to
and
her
team
to
give
us
a
stakeholder
list
and
we'll
work
through
the
list
and
say:
okay.
Well,
you
gave
us
a
list
of
30
or
40
people,
but
maybe
the
chamber
president.
There
may
be
councils
not
on
there
and
those
types
of
things
and
so
we'll
get
the
list
dialed
in
and
then
literally
my
team.
C
We
call
every
one
of
them
will
usually
get
between
twenty
to
thirty
in
a
market
of
this
size
and
we're
looking
for
themes.
So
we're
looking
for
commonalities
that
they're
all
saying
the
same
thing
and
then
we'll
come
into
town
and
so
we'll
have
those
themes
when
we
get
here
and
we'll
share
those
with
you,
because
the
themes
are
gonna
help
us
shape
the
SWOT
analysis
in
the
pathway
and
the
themes
could
be.
C
We've
got
the
right
people,
but
not
enough
funding
or
we've
got
great
venues,
but
we
need
more
ice
or
it
could
be
a
myriad
of
things
we.
It
could
be
our
relationships
or
need
to
be
strengthened
in
certain
areas.
We
do
have
to
mediate
a
lot
of
infighting
you
all
here.
Don't
do
that.
It
doesn't
seem
like,
which
is
great,
makes
our
job
easier.
C
A
C
We
usually
say
once
you're
part
of
our
family,
always
part
of
our
family,
but
we
haven't
had
very
many
clients
that
have
gone
overboard
with
that.
So
she
calls
me
in
a
couple
years:
I'm
not
gonna,
send
you
another
bill,
but
we
do
have
clients
that
actually
do
engage
us
for
execution
beyond
the
original
plan,
and
most
of
our
plans
are
in
that
mid
to
high
twenties
range,
which
that's
probably
what
this
one
would
be,
especially
if
we
are
tasked
with
evaluating
you
know
what
that
hockey
facility
may
look
like
cuz.
C
C
D
Would
guess
in
many
ways
we
will
look
a
lot
like
other
Midwestern
cities,
our
size,
the
basics
of
you
know
you
play
high
school
football.
We
have
basketball,
wrestling's
big
here,
hockey's
certainly
come
on,
and
ice
skating
shows
the
skating
competitions.
They've
come
on
softballs
real
big
here.
That's
why
we
have
a
new
softball
complex,
so
we
can
play
well
in
those
areas
regionally,
but
I.
Look
at
some
communities
that
they'll
pick
something
different
and
I
always
like
to
talk
about
sister
city
of
ours,
down
to
southeast
corner
of
the
state
Yankton
South
Dakota.
D
C
C
So
if
you
on
a
bigger
picture,
you
know,
obviously
the
Vikings
knew
they
built
US
Bank
Stadium
the
deal
is
you
get
a
Super
Bowl
I
mean
that's
the
deal,
and
so
BMX
is
taking
a
similar
track
to
that.
No
pun
intended
in
building
racetracks
that
if
you
do
that,
you're
gonna
get
a
national
race,
there's
only
40
of
those
run
throughout
the
year
and
they
rotate
them
into
people
who
have
made
it
capital
investments.
C
So
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
in
GBS
or
rights
holders
that
own
those
events
that
are
like
that
that
are
active,
USA
pickleball
is
based
in
Phoenix.
They
were
playing
pickleball.
We
went
by
the
facility
today,
their
membership
has
quadrupled
in
the
last
four
years
and
it's
not
a
old
person.
Retiree
sport.
If
you
go
to
their
national
championship,
there'll
be
3,000
players
there
and
half
of
them
are
24
and
under
so
pickleball
is
kind
of
cool
for
the
younger
crowd
too.
C
Paddleboard
was
first
last
year,
it's
still
in
the
top
ten
there's
a
bunch
of
interest,
pickle
balls
like
five
or
six
there's
a
bunch
of
interesting
sports.
In
there
that
weren't
in
there
before
and
on
the
on
the
Olympic
program,
we
may
think
in
a
market
like
this,
the
Olympics
aren't
really
that
important,
we're
not
an
Olympic
host
city
like
a
Salt
Lake,
or
something
like
that.
C
But
in
reality,
if
you
get
on
the
Olympic
program,
the
studies
have
shown
over
and
over
that
membership
and
participation
grows,
and
so
the
most
current
sports
that
were
on
the
summer
program
last
time
around
in
Rio
were
golf
and
sevens
rugby
sevens
rugby
membership
has
doubled.
Golf
is
still
relatively
flat.
We
do
I'm
a
golfer.
We
do
a
lot
of
golf
projects
around
the
country
as
well
on
that
issue,
but
the
next
program
has
freestyle
BMX
on
it.
It
has
skateboard
on
it.
C
You've
built
a
skateboard
facility
that
I
saw
today,
and
so
some
of
those
sports.
If
we
get
our
hooks
in
them
early
like
right
now,
us
a
skateboarding
doesn't
even
know
how
to
themselves,
and
so
let
alone
they
don't
have
it
a
whole
lot
of
hosts
partner
cities
reaching
out
to
them
going
hey.
Let
us
grow
with
you
along
this
path.
Let
us
be
one
of
your
home
cities
as
you
figure
it
out.
C
Let
us
help
you
figure
it
out
and
that's
an
opportunity
for
all
of
those
NESC
members
that
are
on
that
chart,
but
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
do
it
right
here.
So
yeah.
We
help
with
that.
A
lot
will
point
out
where
those
opportunities
may
be,
especially
when
we
can
build
a
unique
relationship
like
an
archery
that
nobody
else
has.
B
I
think
I
just
want
to
mention
too
that
John
and
I
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
kind
of
the
ancillary
type
of
things,
things
that
come
in
utilizing,
late-game,
Pesce
or
bike
trails,
marathons,
different
kinds
of
races,
that
kind
of
thing,
the
big
stuff
that
people
really
come
into
town.
That's
our
mission
is
to
bring
people
in
from
outside
the
area,
and
so
there's
so
much
out
there
that
we
can
do
I.
Think
somebody
like
John
I'm
bored
because
he's
got
those
connections
and
he'll.
He
knows
the
fit
for
me.
B
I'm,
a
member
of
nasc
I,
can
go
through
the
RFPs
there's
literally
thousands
of
them
every
year.
Subject
go
through.
You
know
that
will
help
any
of
our
growth.
With
trying
to
get
these
hotels
built
that
maybe
we're
talking
about
building.
We
need
to
probably
bring
some
things
in
offseason.
You
know
summers
are
pretty
full
we're
pretty
packed
in
the
summertime.
B
C
C
If
you
will
they're
CVB
sports
staff
are
running
Harley
festivals,
chicken
festivals,
like
in
London
Kentucky,
as
where
Colonel
Sanders
from
they
have
a
chicken
festival,
it's
run
by
their
sports
in
Parks
and
Rec
Department,
which
is
different,
they're
running
all
kinds
of
different
things:
music,
music
events
over
three-day
weekends
that
are
not
sports
related,
but
the
putting
on
a
sporting
event
putting
on
a
marathon
or
softball
turn.
With
those
things
we
talk
about
people
who
wear
backpacks
and
execute
events,
it's
the
same
to
do
a
Harley
festival
or
music
festival.
C
C
Minneapolis
they've
got
four
guys
in
there
that
are
operating
in
a
Super
Bowl
level,
literally
with
Final
Four
Superbowl,
and
you
know
all
those
things
we
can't
play
that
game.
We've
got
to
play
a
different
game,
whether
it's
archery
or
something
unique
and
we've
got
to
build
our
own
relationships
and
we
can't
really
bid
against
them
with
RFPs.
So
it's
not
not
usually
a
healthy
game
to
play
with
limited
resources.
So
that's
part
of
the
that's
part
of
our
deliverable.
C
C
Question
so
usually
again,
I
mentioned
just
briefly
there
in
a
minute
ago,
but
the
best
CVB
sports
commissions,
whatever
they
call
themselves
whatever
structure
they
are.
You
know,
by
the
way,
not
all
sports
commissions
are
really
in
the
in
the
event
business.
What
used
to
be
a
fewer
Sports
Commission?
C
You
were
producing
events
now,
some
Seabees
call
themselves
sports
commissions
and
really
still
just
do
the
heads
and
beds
thing
and
don't
really
run
events,
so
it's
gotten
really
gray
again
there,
but
the
best
sports
destinations,
whether
they
be
a
CBB
or
a
Sports,
Commission,
again
handle
everything
outside
the
field
to
play.
In
your
case,
you
may
want
to
bid
on
a
USA
Wrestling,
sanctioned
event
I'm,
assuming
your
USA
Wrestling
member
of
some
sort
with
those
guys.
C
But
if
you
were
to
bid
on
a
folkstyle
or
something
like
that,
you're
gonna
say
hey,
we
need
some
financial
resources.
I
need
a
venue,
whatever
other
equipment,
you
may
not
have.
Usually
that
partner
would
fund
some
of
that
I'm,
not
putting
it
up
for
money,
but
that
partner
would
usually
fund
some
of
that
and
then
on
game
day.
C
It's
up
to
you
and
USA
Wrestling
to
run
the
mats
and
run
that
thing
and
hire
the
officials
and
pay
the
officials
and
do
all
that
everything
outside
the
field
to
play
the
best
sports
destinations
handle
all
that.
So
you
don't
have
to
deal
with
it.
You
should
just
be
focused
on
what's
going
on
in
the
mats
and
not
have
to
worry
about
all
the
noise
out
there
right
and
in
in
our
case,
in
Phoenix.
C
I
had
a
guy
named
Edie
now
works
for
the
Phoenix
Suns,
but
it
was
my
marketing
guy,
but
he
just
loved
doing
events
and
so
on
the
weekends
he
held
his
hand
up
on
all
those
holiday
weekends
and
said:
I'll
go
out
to
the
field
hockey.
Then
I'll
go
out
to
the
La
Crosse
event,
and
he
would
pick
up.
You
know
they're
big
referee.
C
You
know
his
plane
got
canceled
the
night
before
I
can't
get
to
the
fields
and
now
they're
starting
competition
and
I'll
go
to
the
airport
and
get
them
and
I'll
get
them
here
and
or
I'll
go
get
the
the
board
chair
from
USA,
Wrestling
and
I'll.
Keep
them
out
of
your
hair
for
two
hours,
so
you
can
continue
to
run
your
event
because
you
don't
need
to
deal
with
that
right
now.
C
G
As
far
as
the
profitability
of
the
tournament,
I
was
like,
I
I
was
approached
last
year
for
like
a
buffer,
Buffalo,
Nationals
tournament,
where
they
basically
gave
a
list
and
said
we
need
six
mats.
This
is
what
we
need
you
to
provide,
and
what's
in
it,
for
you
is
$3,000.
Is
that
kind
of
how
those
partnerships,
work
or
yeah.
C
If
you
don't
have
those
things,
then
sometimes
the
CVB
would
fund
in
in
the
best
case
scenario,
would
fund
that
purchase
out
them,
knowing
you
can
use
them
for
other
events
for
the
next
five
or
ten
years
right
same
thing,
with
some
of
our
clients
that
we
talked
about
favored
nation
status,
with
especially
with
schools.
If,
if
I'm
going
to
give
an
example,
one
of
our
clients,
their
college
needed
to
redo
their
soccer
field
and
really
didn't
have
the
budget
to
do
so,
and
so
the
CVB
said
well
we'll
pay
for
that.
C
But
if
we
do
pay
for
that,
then
we
get
the
calendar
once
you
do
intercollegiate
your
schedule.
We
get
the
calendar,
and
so
we
can
host
any
other
soccer
event.
We
want
to
host
and
then
after
that,
in
or
you
know,
intramurals
and
clubsport
can
have
it,
but
that's
going
to
be
our
Convention
Center,
so
we'll
pay
the
money
for
the
field,
but
we
want
to
be
next
right
after
intercollegiate
athletics,
which
is
what
the
fields
for
right.
C
So
hopefully
it
answers
your
question,
but
it's
it
the
pot
again
different
puzzle
for
every
market
and
I,
don't
know
how
much
money
we
didn't
get
into
budget,
how
much
she
has
to
allocate
to
sports
or
she's
planning
to
budget
for
2019
for
sports,
but
and
in
some
markets
you're
not
allowed
to
use
some
of
the
funding
you
get
whether
it's
bit
money
or
bet
tax
money
for
infrastructure.
It
has
to
be
all
marketing
so
we'll
tackle
that
as
we
get
through
it
all
our
best.
C
Clients
are
the
ones
that
work
with
you
and
say
what
do
what
barriers
do
you
have
and
let
me
remove
them
and
you
might
say,
I
need
six
mats
or
I
can't
afford
the
I
can't
afford
that
nice
rec
center
for
the
weekend
and
they
alleviate
those
either
financially
or
with
People
Power
on
volunteer
management.
Those
things.
G
D
Each
community's
got
its
own
quirks
its
own
politics.
If
you
will,
the
school
districts
are
very
involved
here
with
the
facilities
we
share
and
they
use
ours
we
use
theirs.
Each
group
can
have
its
own
anomalies,
let's
call
it
that
so
each
Association.
How
do
you
just
give
me
some
comments
on
how
you
help
manage
or
put
together
and
organize
all
that
yeah.
C
The
the
interview
process,
the
onboarding
process
we
go
through,
helps
a
lot
again.
The
themes
of
who
really
is
is
getting
along
and
the
our
big
thing
is:
if
I
just
mentioned
it
here,
if
whatever
barrier
you
have
to
participating
in
the
sports
tourism
effort,
let's
figure
out
how
to
remove
it.
Let's
not
just
say
it's
a
barrier
and
we're
not
going
to
overcome
it,
and
so
that's
part
of
our
process
is
using
our
other
experiences
in
the
other
markets
and
and
Gary
on
my
team
and
myself
and
leading
sports
commissions.
C
How
we've
survived
those
and
I'll.
Tell
you
this
the
the
two.
The
two
top
calls
that
we
get
from
somebody
in
Julie's
position.
Are
my
elected
officials?
Don't
get
it
I?
Think
you
guys
get
it
because
we
wouldn't
be
here.
If
you
didn't
and
my
my
Recreation
and
Parks
people
and
us
we
do
not
get
along
those
are
the
two
top
ones
we
get,
and
so
we're
pretty
well
versed
and
how
to
navigate
those.
C
Hopefully,
we
don't
have
any
of
those
problems
here,
but
a
lot
of
times,
especially
I'll,
just
comment
to
Parks
and
Rec,
because
we
had
this
problem
in
Phoenix
when
I
got
there,
our
parks
guys
were
taxed
and
they
didn't
want
to
work
on
the
weekends
when
they
had.
You
know
forty
hour
desk
jobs
and
lining
fields
at
night
for
old
man,
softball
leagues
like
I
played
in
they,
then
don't
want
to
do
12
and
under
stuff
all
weekend,
and
so
we
alleviate
that
with
well.
C
What
if
we
gave
you
budget
or
what,
if
we
provided
the
staff
to
do
that
and
we
trained
them
up
and
and
then
we
go
from
there,
so
you
don't
have
to
do
it
but
they're
under
your
auspices.
But
how
about?
If
we
fund
it-
and
we
even
got
to
a
point
in
two
thousand,
eight
nine
ten
when
the
market
went
down
and
everybody
was
scrambling
for
money,
they
were
going
to
close
our
primary
facilities
in
Phoenix,
so
Phoenix,
Parks
and
Rec,
just
literally
gonna,
lock
them
up
and
let
the
weeds
grow.
C
And
we
went
out
to
her
hospitality
community
and
raised
about
a
half
a
million
bucks
to
keep
the
maintenance
going
because
we
needed
them
for
tournaments,
and
so
we
built
a
really
nice
relationship
there
and
not
saying
we
got
to
go,
raise
a
half
a
million
bucks.
But
you
know
that
those
are
the
two
big
ones
and
and
but
they're
all
relationship
driven
things
and
we
try
and
help
navigate
those
as
we
go
through
the
process.
A
H
C
C
So
that's
a
bigger
project,
but
then
again
your
piece
might
be
a
lot
smaller
if
we
did
partner
with
them
on
that,
we
can
offer
both
if
you'd
like,
we
can
offer
both
options,
and
if
you
wanted
to
go
talk
to
your
neighbors
and
your
position,
you
could
do
that
oftentimes.
It's
usually
this.
It's
usually
this
group
would
want
to
do
just
their
community
and
then,
as
part
of
our
recommendations
and
say,
hey,
there's,
probably
a
regional
play
here
and
then
we
do
a
secondary
one
or
we
could
just
jump
straight
to
it.
B
F
Thank
You
Julie,
so
yeah,
my
name
is
Neil
Wagner
I'm,
an
industry
outreach
and
development
rep
with
the
South
Dakota
Department
of
Tourism
I'm.
Here
today,
because
sports
torment
tourism
is
one
of
the
four
niche
areas
that
we're
working
on
developing
we're
a
new
team
within
our
department.
But
this
is
something
that's
very
important
to
us,
I'm,
so
I
so
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
John
for
being
here
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
continuing
the
conversation
about
developing
sports
tourism
here
in
Watertown
and
across
the
state
thanks
Neil.
A
Obviously
we're
not
in
position
to
make
a
decision
at
this
meeting
today,
I'm
guessing
I'm,
looking
at
you
Julian.
The
next
step
is
a
task
force
of
the
stakeholders
that
are
that
are
involved,
we'll
be
discussing
this
as
far
as
next
step
to
move
forward.
If
we
do,
one
engage
John
services
or
cannot
kind
of
walk
us
through
what
you're
into
anticipation
would
be
for
the
next
step
for
us
well,.
B
B
But
then
we
would
maybe
assign
a
few
council
members
a
couple
people
from
my
board
and
you
know
Park
and
Rec
and
I
think
really
from
a
standpoint
of
agreeing
to
bring
John
on
it's
probably
more
of
a
financial
thing,
so
maybe
between
the
CVB
and
City
Council,
because
that's
gonna
affect
my
bottom
line
next
year.
So
that's
something
that
maybe
we
can
talk
about.
If
the
council
sees
value
in
that
and
then
we
can
after
he
brings
a
proposal,
we
can
pull
in
the
other
stakeholders.
A
A
A
What
play
right
into
what
we're
trying
to
keep
a
strong
number
here
and
this
past
month
we
were
up
7.3
percent
over
a
year
ago
for
the
same
month
for
the
last
12
months,
Rupp
four
and
a
quarter
percent
for
the
last
26
months
were
up
seven
point
four,
six
percent,
so
nice
trends
to
have-
and
something
like
this
could
definitely
continue
to
add
to
that.
So
again,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
see
where
we
go
from
here.
Our.