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A
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
the
agenda,
and
I
would
like
to
move
item
number
7
to
the
top,
and
it's
okay
with
that.
Any
other
changes
there.
A
motion
for
approval
of
the
agenda
second
motion
by
Buehler.
Second
by
y,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
okay.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
consideration
of
Memorandum
of
Understanding
for
financing
construction
of
improvements
to
26th
Street
East
in
the
u.s.
212,
right-of-way
and
I.
A
Didn't
say
this
in
the
finance
meeting,
but
I,
probably
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
What
this
is
we
had
a
table
item
on
the
agenda
from
the
previous
council
meeting
to
move
forward
with
designation
of
who
pays
for
what
and
the
there
was
not
any
feeling
on
the
council
that
anybody
was
ready
to
approve
anything
yet
and
we
entered
into
a
mediation
with
the
developers
or
two
developers
and
the
city
met
with
a
mediation
team
and
an
attorney.
A
The
city
had
attorney
Vince
Foley,
representing
us
and
coho,
had
an
attorney
and
glacial
lakes.
Capital
had
an
attorney,
and
we
all
met
and
give-and-take
across
the
afternoon
and
came
out
with
consensus
on
how
to
move
forward
and
Vince
has
put
this
into
writing
and
I'll.
Let
you
take
it
from
there
things
and.
B
The
Memorandum
of
Understanding
is
is
a
draft.
It
is
not
something
that
is
we're
acting
or
asking
for
action
on
at
this
time,
because
of
differences
in
how
we're
going
to
handle
the
procedure,
the
payment
responsibilities
and
the
construction,
given
some
current
information
from
legislative
audit,
but
the
principles
that
we
talked
about
as
far
as
sharing
our
what
we're
asking
for
approval
from
the
Finance
Committee
today,
it's
a
important
to
keep
in
mind
the
distinction
between
the
project
within
the
highway
right-of-way
and
that
which
lies
north
of
the
highway
right-of-way.
B
We
are
only
talking
about
city
responsibility
for
funds
expended
for
part
of
the
the
part
of
the
project
within
the
to
12
highway,
right-of-way,
that
being
an
approach.
Currently,
there
is
a
a
culvert
of
a
certain
length
based
upon
requirements
from
the
Department
of
Transportation
and
needs
to
be
expanded
to
provide
for
a
wider
road
surface
to
allow
for
truck
traffic.
Turning
because
of
that,
you'll
have
to
extend
the
culvert,
you'll
have
to
add,
fill
you'll,
have
more
asphalt
and
more
curb
and
gutter
and
ancillary
construction
costs
as
well.
B
Those
costs
are
what
is
being
talked
about
in
the
highway
right-of-way
project
within
the
highway
right-of-way
project.
The
mediation
terms
that
the
city
agreed
to
would
be
the
first
$100,000.
Well,
let
me
rephrase
100%
of
the
construction
costs
not
to
exceed
$100,000
beyond
$100,000.
The
developers
will
be
sharing
at
a
rate
that
glacial
lakes
does
not
exceed
$5,000
in
coho
would
be
responsible
for
their
respective
share
of
the
balance.
B
The
share
for
glacial
lakes
is
25
percent
of
the
construction
costs
above
100,
so
long
as
their
share
does
not
exceed
$5,000,
so
that
that
other
75%
would
be
Cohoes
and
then
above
that,
cohost
would
be
co-host.
Responsibility
would
be
the
the
full
amount,
the
idea
being
that,
because
of
the
impact
on
the
right
of
way
and
that
approach
in
the
importance
that
the
approach
has
to
that
that
traffic,
the
agreement
was
reached
to
have
that
respective
share
amongst
the
parties.
B
B
B
B
B
C
D
C
A
E
So
on,
when
8th
Street
was
constructed,
the
access
for
the
sanitary
sewer
was
in
the
highway
212
right
away,
so
they
extended
northward
out
of
the
manhole
and
right
away
via
26th
Street,
to
8th
the
Avenue.
So
there
was
a
well
that
sanitary
sewer
main
was
installed
and
also
water
mains
were
constructed
within
the
right
away
there
as
well,
and
what
I
believe
this
is
referring
to
is
those
two
infrastructure
components,
as
well
as
the
water
and
sewer
service,
which
was
stubbed
off
of
those
mains
to
the
property
owned
by
DLC.
C
C
A
Not
sure
what
the
full
intent
of
this,
if
glacial
lakes
capital
was
concerned
about
being
charged,
their
pro
rata
share
for
the
sewer
main,
which
gives
them
the
ability
to
have
a
building
on
their
property
and
and
they're
saying
we
don't
have
to
pay
anything
for
that
sewer
main
or
for
the
sewer
service.
That's
already
is
that
accurate,
Vince.
B
Generally,
yes,
okay,
I,
want
to
make
a
point,
though
we
keep
flipping
on
the
Memorandum
of
Understanding
document
up,
but
that
is
not
the
current
version.
The
version
that
I
handed
out
right
before
and
they
did
give
to
the
press
I'm
sorry
this
press
is,
is
the
current
version
that
so
there's
language
in
the
the
more
current
version.
That's
not
included
in
in
that
paragraph,
and
it
speaks
to
any
cost.
I'm.
Sorry
out.
If
you
go
to
the
second
GLC.
E
B
A
Okay,
then,
and
there
there
might
have
been
a
sewer
cost
recovery
for
a
sewer
main
in
the
u.s.
212
right
of
way.
That
entries
would
have
been
responsible
for
which
was
built
many
years
ago,
and
then
this
sewer,
which
was
built
recently,
and
so
that
wasn't
we
didn't
really
talk
about
the
mains
in
the
mediation
we
talked
about
the
services.
C
My
point
here
on
this
is
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
the
public
knows
that
this
is
outside
of
what
the
212
right
away
was.
Yes,
so
that's
the
primary
point,
and
and
if
we
know
what
those
costs
are
great,
if
we
don't,
we
know
it's
not
a
significant
dollar
amount,
because
we
had
talked
about
this
at
some
time
in
a
previous
session
that
we
had
here
so
I
think.
E
Thank
You
mayor
actually,
so
several
of
my
issues
are
all
related
to
potential
assessment
projects
and
I
just
want
to
lay
the
groundwork
here
on
the
first
one.
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
scope
of
the
project,
making
sure
that
we
fit
the
budget
and
also
the
desire
to
pursue
assessments
on
most
all
of
these
projects
and
in
third
Avenue
South.
In
particular,
it's
in
southwest
part
of
town
from
13th
Street
on
the
east,
going
approximately
five
blocks
in
numeration
anyway
to
18th
Street
West.
E
Currently,
there
is
curb
and
gutter
along
the
entire
Soloff
edge
of
the
street
as
it's
been
constructed
and
there
are
several
gaps
in
the
curb
infrastructure
on
the
north,
and
you
can
see
that
highlighted
by
a
highlighted
line
and
then
a
distance
of
in,
for
instance,
on
this
lot
was
sixty
nine
point,
seven
feet
of
curb
missing
and
you
can
go
on
down
the
line
and
you
can
see
that
this
segment
here
on
the
western
edges
is
quite
long.
It's
you
know
almost
400
feet.
E
You
know
a
block
length
without
curb
again
to
the
east,
there's
a
couple
of
long
stretches
that
don't
have
curb.
So
what
we've,
what
we're
looking
at
is?
Is
there
a
desire
to
have
an
assessment
project
running
alongside
this
project,
and
the
main
scope
of
this
project
was
to
restore
the
surface,
so
we
were
going
to
plan
on
removing
the
asphalt
surface,
reworking
the
base
and
paving
a
new
surface
stone.
That's
the
primary
objective
of
this
project.
E
So,
along
with
that,
then
we
wanted
to
approach
the
missing,
curb
segments
and
see,
if
there's
a
desire,
we're
going
to
reach
out
to
the
property
owners.
Let
them
know
what
our
anticipated
costs
are
and
include
assessment
project.
If
this
board
wishes
to
pursue
that.
Another
issue
that
we
took
took
a
great
big
look
at
was:
there
is
no
sidewalk
along
this
project
anywhere.
We
did
a
lot
of
research.
E
I
had
the
assistant
city,
engineer,
Colin
Paulson
do
extensive
research
on
case
law
with
regard
to
how
much
effort
a
community
needs
to
go
to
make
sure
that
there
is
handicap
accessibility.
The
biggest
constraint
on
this
project
is
that
we
don't
have
adequate
right
away
on
either
side
of
the
street
to
build
the
sidewalk
infrastructure.
E
We
do
have
means
and
methods
in
order
to
do
that,
but
our
standard
practice
here
is
that
if
we
do
construct
a
new
sidewalk
that
we
would
anticipate
being
able
to
assess
that
sidewalk
work
as
well.
Well,
in
this
case,
we
would
have
to
acquire
right
away,
construct
an
improvement
and
expect
the
landowners
to
pay
for
it.
All
and
the
odds
of
us
accomplishing
that
much
work
to
get
a
sidewalk
on
this
quiet
residential
street
would
probably
be
insurmountable.
E
Can
prohibit
the
construction
of
a
site
water
project
again
just
kind
of
paraphrase:
we
normally
send
out
a
petition
letter
for
assessment
projects.
I
want
to
skip
ahead
one
step
and
have
the
city
act
as
if
it's
proposing
this
assessment
for
the
curb
and
then
we
would
set
up
a
hearing
send
out
the
information
to
all
our
jacent
property
owners.
E
Let
them
call
us
we'll
explain
to
them
what
our
goals
are
and
then
have
that
hearing
and
if
they
opt
out,
we
would
just
let
them
opt
out
of
putting
the
curb
and
gutter
in
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
substantial
drainage
issues
that
have
been
received
by
our
office
so
I.
If
there's
flooding
out
there,
people
might
apply
the
curb
and
others
might
you
know
sneeze
at
it
and
not
want
it.
E
E
C
E
C
E
A
E
C
Could
couldn't
we,
what
would
they
have
to
be
tied
together?
I
mean,
couldn't
you
do
the
road
and
and
do
the
curb
and
gutter
for
come
back
to
that
one
too,
by
the
way,
and
then,
if
at
some
point
we
do
the
sidewalk
later
come
back
and
do
the
acquisition
and
do
the
sidewalks
there
I
don't
know
why
they'd
have
to
be
tied
together.
A
E
They
don't
have
to
be
done
together,
but
usually
when
you're
working
in
a
project
area,
you're
gonna
get
better
prices
for
that.
Now.
That
is
a
good
point.
The
mayor
brought
up
because
part
of
our
research
did
show
that
if
we
acquire
right
away
on
Northside
in
particular
that
several
of
the
buildings
are
going
to
be
non-compliant
with
their
setback,
so
that's
another
hurdle
too.
If
we
pursue
sidewalk
that
we
will
make
non-conforming
structures
if.
C
E
E
A
A
E
F
That
but
I
mean
we
already
have
a
person
to
do
it.
So,
in
my
opinion,
I
would
say:
let's
see
if
we
can
get
them
to
go
along
with
it.
If
they
all
come
out
and
say,
I
don't
want
it,
then
we
can
relook
at
that,
but
as
it
sits
right
now,
I
would
say:
let's
put
it
in
so
that
all
the
smaller
roads,
plus
it's
easier
to
move
snow,
it's
easier
to
contain
water.
Everything
else
you.
A
A
E
A
E
E
A
E
A
A
D
H
And
I
think
as
Shane
was
saying
to
it,
as
you
mentioned,
I
think
April
is
normally
when
we
establish
the,
as
you
said,
like
the
necessity
the
need
for
it,
and
then
it
comes
back
once
the
final
costs
are
to
actually
do
the
assessment,
but
I
think
April's
the
normal
time
when
they
come
forward
with
the
projects
that
they
want
to
assess.
I.
E
And
actually
the
upcoming
projects
I'll
discuss,
we
will
be
sending
out
petitions
for
those
and
as
long
as
we
get
them
back
in
time
to
have
a
hearing
by
April,
we
should
be
able
to
still
move
forward
with
any
project.
Okay.
So
that's
all
the
information
I
have
on
this.
If
there's
some
direction
to
do
all
I'm
hearing
all
of
the
to
do
all
the
curb
as
one
assessment
take
it
or
leave
it
by
councilman
l'olam,
any
other
thoughts
or
direction
that
we
want
to
discuss
before
you
get
sure.
I
E
And
I'll
be
honest:
both
of
these
were
just
sections
that
we've
talked
about
they're,
not
any
by
any
means
the
final
solution
for
this
project.
We
don't
know
of
any
substantial
base,
corrective
action
that
needs
to
be
done
here,
so
we're
primarily
looking
at
probably
removing
the
asphalt
surface
re-shaping
and
packing
the
existing
base
underneath
it
and
then
just
repaving
it
similar
to
what
we
did
in
summer
wood
last
year.
So.
I
I
E
We
did
talk
about
that
and
I
have
no
sense
of
how
how
many
students
live
in
this
area.
Certainly
they're,
not
using
a
sidewalk
today,
if
they're
walking
to
school
and-
and
we
can
again
go
forward
with
that.
But
I
think
that,
with
the
need
to
acquire
right
away
and
assess
it
to
the
adjacent
property
owners
that
you're
gonna
find
a
great
amount
of
resistance
to
that
project.
A
J
K
E
Can't
answer
that
question
that
that
this
projects,
so
old
I
mean
that
it
was
done
before
we
kept
those
kind
of
records
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
original
try
section
on
this
was
six
inches
of
gravel
with
two
inches
of
asphalt
or
it.
So
any
improvement.
We
do
is
much
needed
and
I'm
just
guessing
that,
given
the
way
the
curb
was
installed,
that
was
probably
done
as
property
owners
did
building
projects
and
they
may
be
opted
in
for
curb
and
and
not
curb,
because
it's
very
unusual
to
have
this
kind
of
gap
system.
E
Great
well
I'll
go
back
to
this.
We
had
this
conversation
at
the
early
part
of
this
is
I
would
support
if
we
want
to
do
a
council
or
a
subsidy
from
this
city
at
the
council's
discretion.
You
know
five
ten
dollars
a
foot
to
just
kind
of
encourage
these
folks
to
finish
the
street
system.
Obviously
from
a
pavement
management
standpoint,
I
would
love
it
if
the
curb
existed
along
the
whole
perimeter
here,
it
assists
us
in
managing
the
drainage.
J
A
A
D
A
E
K
A
D
L
C
E
E
C
Feet
so
from
your
guys's
perspective,
hmmm
come
on
lean
in
the
engineering
field.
Now
the
engineering
field.
Are
we
better
off
having
the
sidewalks
for
the
pub
good
of
the
public
use
and
deal
with
the
non-conforming
Lots
creation
of
the
non-conforming
lot?
In
this
case
the
they
setback,
or
are
we
better
off
not
having
the
sidewalks
and
having
conforming
Lots.
A
C
Forget
the
the
landowner
at
this
point,
but
from
our
city's
perspective,
would
we
rather
have
do
we
think
it's
better
for
the
city
to
have
the
sidewalks
in
and
deal
with
the
setback
issue
and
the
creation
of
non-conforming
Lots,
or
do
we
think
we're
better
off
having
no
sidewalks
and
having
the
setbacks
be
correct?
Well,.
A
This
is
a
neighborhood
that
has
existed
for
many
years,
so
it's
different
than
a
newly
planted
area
and
that's
a
pretty
touchy
subject:
I
think
the
engineering
department
was
kinda
not
wanting
to
touch
that
and
without
the
proper
right-of-way
it.
The
that's
a
big
deal
to
add
the
sidewalks,
so
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
we
could
even
make
a
choice
about
sidewalks.
If
we
wanted
to
add
those
in,
we
got
kind
of
start
over,
but
building
official
Kim
Buchholz
is
the.
M
Only
thing
I
say:
is
there
a
possibility
of
just
doing
the
property
you
save
all
the
expense?
You
take
a
four
foot
easement
from
the
people
and
wouldn't
shoot
this,
because
these
were
still
gonna
come
from
the
back
of
the
curb
they
wouldn't
become
non-conforming.
You
can
just
put
her
in
an
easement
same
difference.
M
A
E
Would
work
for
that
purpose
and
I'll
not
not
continue
to
barter
but
I
mean
there's
other
challenges.
There's
on
the
south
side,
I'll
flat-out
say
that
there's
at
least
two
mailbox
systems
to
those
apartments
that
are
in
the
wrong
location.
There's
multiples
utility
boxes
in
the
wrong
location.
So
do
you
even
find
that
the
route
for
the
sidewalk
can
be
done,
but
it's
gonna
add
you
know
a
substantial
bartering
position
to
the
city
and
then
on
the
north
side,
there's
mail
boxes
all
along
the
whole
piece.
E
Deuce
we'd
have
to
consider
that
all
those
are
not
ninja
near.
What
we
are
asking,
though,
is
not
only
are
you
leading
the
horse
to
water,
then
trying
to
force
them
to
drink
it,
but
you're
also
asking
them
to
buy
the
water
and
to
get
all
that
done
to
get
the
sidewalk
in
I'm.
Just
saying,
yeah
I'm
saying
the
public
will
probably
kill
project
based.
A
On
sidewalk,
even
if
everybody
wanted
it,
it
isn't
necessary
that
you
do
that
with
the
curb
or
with
the
road
project.
Those
can
be
two
completely
separate
projects
and,
if
we're
not
doing
curb,
there's
really
no
incentive
to
do
the
sidewalk
at
this
point
in
time
and
the
fact
that
the
sidewalk
is
intermittent,
it
isn't
that
much
of
a
cost
savings
to
do
them
together.
So
there's
already
some
there.
So
there's
a
lot
of
concrete
work
on
this
project.
I
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
complicate
it
with
the
sidewalk
I.
A
C
Based
on
what
I'm
hearing
here,
I
think
I'd
leave
it
out
if
they,
if
they
aren't.
If
we
know
we,
if
we're
aware
or
not
aware
that
there
is
a
real
public
issue
up
there
in
regards
to
safety,
certainly
I
think
so.
I
made
mentioned
the
school
being
probably
our
biggest
concern.
If
we
really
aren't
aware
of
that,
and
we
aren't
getting
the
neighborhood
truly
seeking
it
and
I
think
I
would
remove
that
part
and
not
confuse
it
chain.
E
G
Has
been
this
way
and
I'm
not
saying
that
that's
the
right
thing,
but
this
has
been
this
way
for
a
long
long
time
forever.
Okay,
I
think
that
without
knowing,
especially
without
knowing
what
kind
of
foot
traffic
issues
we've,
you
know
how
much
what
the
potential
is
for
foot
traffic
there
I
think
that's
a
lot
of
hassle
and
then,
when
you
make
those
all
non-conforming
unless
her
to
do
it,
Kenny
said
yeah,
you
know
just
make
it
a
part
of
the
right
way.
G
I
I
just
really
have
a
problem
with
putting
outside
I'm
making
them
put
those
sidewalks
in
I.
Don't
I,
don't
agree
with
that
concept
at
all.
As
far
as
curb
and
gutter
goes
I,
the
fact
that
if
we're
gonna
do
that,
I
think
you
need
to
do
all
of
it.
You
know
you
can't
I,
don't
see
what
gutter
does
good.
If
you
had
segments
I,
really
don't
it's
gonna
undermine
the
the
base
course
where
it
comes
out.
G
A
J
Not
gonna
want
to
pay
for
it.
I
think
Shane's
description
was
pretty
accurate.
I
mean
that
kind
of
sums
it
all
up.
I'm
just
gonna
make
the
counterpoint
just
for
discussion.
That
is,
you
know,
I
moved
back
to
town
and
o3
and
up
in
my
neighborhood
we
don't
have
sidewalks
or
we
have
segments
of
sidewalks
and
we've
got
people
walkin
four
abreast
in
the
street.
I
have
seen
wheelchairs
in
the
street
in
the
gutter
and
I've
seen
mothers
with
baby
strollers
and
fathers
with
baby
strollers
in
the
streets,
and
it
doesn't
look
very
good
and.
I
J
A
L
An
assistant
city
engineer:
yes,
we
can
do
it
legally
and
that's
you
just
have
to
prove
for
one:
that's
not
in
the
scope
of
work
originally
and
second,
you
would
really
have
to
prove
infeasibility
pretty
much
and
with
all
the
the
problems
that
could
come
up
with
this
or
are
currently
present,
I.
Think
that
that's
sufficient
with
the
research
that
I've
done.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
and
I
I
would
like
to
add,
I
mean
if
we,
even
if
we
did
it
in
easements,
where
we
have
sidewalks
that
cross
driveways.
You
cannot
park
on
a
sidewalk,
so
it
may
make
some
driveways
I,
don't
know.
If
you
looked
at
that
it
may
make
some
driveways
useless
for
parking,
they
would
only
be
access
to
the
garage
and
and
that's
a
definite
issue
for
I
know
if
that's
a
situation
here,
but
could
potentially
mess
with
it.
So
our
is
anyone
ready
to
make
a
motion.
L
F
A
A
A
E
Okay,
thank
you
mayor,
similar
quest.
As
far
as
I
want
to
provide
information
and
get
approval
to
proceed
forward.
25Th
Street
West
is
south
of
highway
212.
It
leads
essentially
down
to
the
boundary
of
Lake
Pelican,
there's
a
row
of
Lots
on
the
south
side,
I
guess
for
reference.
There's
a
farm,
implement
salvage
yard
to
the
west
side
and
co-op
owns
a
gas
facility
on
the
east
side
at
the
south.
End
of
that
is
a
daycare.
E
Currently,
the
road
is
built
with
a
rural
section.
It's
gravel
surfaced
and
the
reason
that
I'm
bringing
this
forward
to
you
is
I've
had
several
complaints
over
the
last
two
years
that
I've
been
in
my
office
with
regard
primarily
to
dust
and
also
to
roughness
and
maintenance,
and
I
can't
speak
for
how
often
the
street
department
grades
that
road
but
I'm
sure
it's
frequent,
given
the
condition
and
the
traffic
that
it
does
carry.
E
What
you
see
here
on
the
screen
is
the
area
in
red
I
would
propose
a
thicker
section
of
roadway
based
on
the
truck
traffic
that
was
go
into
the
coop
and
also
into
the
neither
here
on
the
west
side.
Then
we
would
switch
over
to
a
more
residential
section,
a
little
thinner
pavement
and
go
along
the
properties
that
are
primarily
residences.
E
The
reason
to
do
a
rural
section
now
is
because
of
the
density
of
the
properties.
Isn't
such
that
there's
large
advantages
in
collecting
the
runoff
there's
already
a
ditch
section,
with
culverts
under
all
of
the
driveways
along
the
east
side
of
the
property
that
conveys
the
water
efficiently,
all
the
way
to
Lake
Pelican.
There
is
a
similar,
ditch
section
on
the
west
side
of
the
roadway
that
also
conveys
it
down
to
the
south
end
and
ultimately,
to
Lake
Pelican.
A
A
A
E
F
E
Thank
You
mayor
again,
this
is
a
segment
of
Road
which
our
office
receives.
Numerous
complaints
about
being
gravel
and
unimproved.
I
will
say
that
most
of
the
complaints
are
not
from
the
residents
that
join
this
section,
Road,
that's
for
those
folks
that
are
served
by
it
from
further
south.
So
neither
one
of
these
landowners
adjacent
to
this
section
of
road
have
been
a
part
of
the
complaints
and
I
will
say
that
this
project
has
been
approached
at
least
one
time
in
the
past
and
ultimately
was
left
unimproved
half
of
the
project
just
changed
ownership.
E
The
last
time
it
was
approached
this
same
person
on
the
property
on
both
the
east
and
the
west
side
of
the
roadway.
Now
the
property
owner
on
the
west
has
changed
and
they
have
not
been
approached
with
an
improvement
to
my
knowledge.
At
this
time,
I
they
did
have
a
building
permit.
That
was
sawed
out
in
the
last
two
years
and
the
Planning
Commission
directed
that
they
sign
a
waiver
of
right
to
protest
their
assessment.
E
E
A
E
E
F
D
E
A
A
E
On
this
project,
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
this
is
a
collector
Road.
That's
never
been
improved
for
one
block
and
then
at
some
point
in
the
community's
history,
we'll
have
to
push
to
get
this
finished.
I
would
like
to
do
it
voluntarily,
I'd
like
to
get
it
done
voluntarily
and
that's
where
I'm
reaching
out
to
them
from
that
approach.
So
mater.
F
A
Was
a
post
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
okay.
Item
number:
five
is
discussion
of
potential
assessment
project
for
the
wheel
in
alley
improvement,
and
this
is
kind
of
a
technicality
that
the
property
owners
petitioned
for
this
improvement,
and
nobody
came
to
the
hearing
because
there
was
adequate
signatures
for
moving
forward
and
the
council
felt
uncomfortable
passing
it
when
no
one
came
to
the
public
hearing,
so
it
didn't
make
it
in
time
for
its
project
in
the
2017
construction
season.
So
you
haven't
got
any
new
information.
E
So
well,
I'll
Reese
er
eyes
that
a
little
bit
in
more
detail.
So
we
out
of
six
properties.
Last
year
we
received
a
signature
from
which
met
a
simple
majority
of
over
50%
of
the
property
and
what's
changed
slightly
this
year,
that
those
two
petitioners
was
this
property
and
this
property,
and
now
this
property
owner
here,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
so
the
to
these
two
properties
on
the
north
side
of
this
alley
were
the
petitioner
Sinese
last
year,
so
that
left
us
a
segment
from
about
right
here
to
here
and
these
two
properties.
E
Well,
these
two
properties
were
owned
by
separate
owners
last
year
and
now
the
owner
of
this
building
here
also
owns
this
lot
here.
So
we're
gonna
resubmit
the
petition
and
we're
gonna
make
sure
that
the
petitioners
understand
that
they
need
to
reach
out
to
everybody,
because
what
I
believe
happened
last
year
once
they
had
a
simple
majority,
they
just
quit
circulating
the
petition.
Then
subsequently,
nobody
showed
up
at
the
hearing
to
support
the
petition
and
it
failed
at
the
council
level
based
on
that
and
I.
E
Don't
disagree
what
the
failure,
but
I
think
had
they
shown
up.
This
project
would
be
done
already
and
so
I
want
to
rebrand
it
back
to
them.
Give
them
one
more
opportunity
to
bring
it
forward
and
get
improved
if
that's
what
they
truly
want.
So
again,
this
is
just
asking
for
me
for
permission
to
submit
the
petitioners
of
form'd
request
if
they
want
to
do
an
improvement
project.
I'd.
E
J
E
J
E
Well,
I'll
explain
why,
in
some
cases
you
have
ten
little
lots
and
then
you
have
one
humongous
lot.
Well,
the
humongous
lot
probably
has
more
benefit
than
the
other
small
lots.
I'll
give
you
another
example,
as
we
do
lot
layouts
around
the
cul-de-sac.
A
lot
of
those
have
huge
lots,
but
very
small
frontages.
It's
not
fair
to
assess
them
on
a
front
foot
if
they
had
a
quarter
of
an
acre,
but
only
had
100
feet
of
frontage.
It's
not
fair
to
the
other
property
owners
that
would
maybe
have
more
the
other.
E
Going
back
to
the
example,
earlier,
I
will
have
to
find
out
a
way
to
equitably
assess
the
three
properties
on
the
south
end
of
25th
Street
for
their
fair
share,
because
they
basically
have
no
furniture.
So
you
have
to
be
able
to
adapt
to
a
methodology,
that's
fair
to
the
properties
adjoining
and
take
into
account
all
of
those
factors.
It's.
E
C
It
and
10
years,
20
years,
whatever
is
done,
Road
needs
repair
is
that
then
our
responsibility
is
the
city
to
do
that,
or
is
that
the
landowners?
It's
the
cities?
So
when
we
make
these,
it's
not
simply
gee
they're
paying.
That's!
No!
You
know
no
money
out
of
our
pocket.
It
is
a
future
liability
to
us,
as
we
approve
these
just
correct.
A
E
A
Well,
I
think
we'll
see
how
it
goes
here.
We
might
end
up
tabeling
this
I.
The
item
number
eight
isn't
gonna
take
but
a
moment
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
if
we
can
talk
about
the
discussion
of
camp
Avenue,
one-way
conversion
and
in
just
a
few
minutes,
then
we'll
do
that.
But
we
if
anyone
feels
the
necessity
to
table
it.
Please
do
so
so
go
ahead
and
give
a
brief
synopsis
of
this.
Okay.
E
It
would
be
that
we
would
seal
coat
and
crack
seal
these
blocks
before
we
did
the
conversion,
because
it
helps
us
erase
the
current
striping
lines
and
we
can
reconfigure
the
parking
and
and
all
that
stuff
in
conjunction
with
current
budget
projects.
You
know
if
we
use
the
millah
the
seal
coat
project
over
this
this
year.
We
just
don't
seal
coat
somewhere
else
or
vice-versa.
If
we
choose
not
to
do
this
project
this
year,
we'll
do
use
the
seal
coat
money
somewhere
else.
E
What
research
we've
done
is
we
do
have
I
mean
we
have
budgets
for
the
sealcoating.
We
have
budgets
for
repainting
lines.
Rob
has
been
doing
research
on
the
cost
of
the
signage,
swap
we've.
Also
gotten
a
cost
estimate
for
the
changing
or
improving
the
stoplight
interchange
with
highway
81
and
that
cost
estimate.
E
It
was
essentially
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
at
this
point,
and
we
would
of
course
have
to
bid
on
a
project
to
make
that
so
then,
just
the
other
highlights
here
all
of
the
stop
lights
along
camp
would
probably
be
proposed
to
be
changed
into
stop
signs,
and
so
we
would
have
a
stop.
A
four-way
stop
basically
at
first
Street
West,
Broadway
maple
and
on
second
street.
E
A
E
I
A
A
With
the
H
2020
group,
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
years,
so
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
controversy
around
it.
I
personally
believe
that
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
for
our
downtown
to
convert
count
to
two
way
back
to
two
way.
It
was
constructed
as
a
two-way
street
and
it
can
function
I
believe
it
can
function
as
a
two-way
street,
but
if,
if
anybody
is
uncomfortable
with
that,
I'm
I'm
very
sensitive
to
that
I,
don't
want
to
give
the
impression
that
we're
rushing
this
through.
A
C
I
just
like
to
say
that
that
one
of
the
discussions
was
that
I
think
they
they
went
out
and
kind
of
checked
with
the
building
owners
and
I.
Think
when
we
had
the
meeting
there
was
concern
on
the
people
that
were
actually
running
the
business
that
they
didn't
have
a
say
they
might
be
renting.
So
they
thought
that
it
should
include
both
not
sure
that's
correct
or
not,
but
as
far
as
whether
it
should
or
not.
C
And
then
the
other
thing
was
I
thought
that
it
was
agreed
upon
that
we
would
be
doing
bringing
back
some
higher
level
of
engineering
detail
for
because
there
was
always
there
was
a
body
of
people
that
says
we're.
Gonna
lose
a
lot
of
parking
and
we
had
to
validate
that
and
then
there's
also
body
people
said
it's
not
wide
enough
and
we
were
going
to
evaluate
the
actual
dimensions
because
I
think
it
changes
as
you
go
west
or
something
as
you
get
farther
to
the
west,
and
so
that
was
good.
E
Correct
what
I,
what
I'm
bringing
this
forward
now
is
the
so
we
have
all
the
conversations
make
sure
that
this
is
what
we
want
to
do,
but
I
need
to
do
it
in
a
time-sensitive
manner,
because
I
need
that
in
the
next
two
months,
I
need
to
identify
what
my
were
my
chip
seal.
Where
my
chip
seal
projects
gonna,
be
you
know,
are
we
gonna
do
a
signal?
We
we
have
a
shorter
period
of
time.
E
F
A
E
Know
I
have
not
received
any
complaints
with
the
conversion
and
make
this
very
brief.
I
believe
that
the
street
section
on
the
critical
portions
of
first
very
nearly
mirrors,
if
not
exactly
the
portions
of
the
street,
that
will
be
of
concern
on
Kemp
and
now
I
personally,
Drive,
first
South,
first
Ave
South
every
day
and
I
have
very
very
seldom
seen
any
conflicts
that
I
felt
that
people
were
on
safer,
didn't
drive
adequately
down
that
corridor.
So
thank
you.
There's.
I
A
Was
a
post
signify
by
saying
they
motion
carries
this
item
is
tabled.
Okay,
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
with
his
approval
of
volunteers
for
the
ice
arena
committee
and
I
put
this
on
the
agenda.
The
volunteers
listed
are
Vince
Foley,
Adam
Sullivan
will
Morlock
Darren
ho
lean
air
Scot,
Marcy,
Cole,
Terry,
Jorgensen
and
Tom
Lennox.
Those
are
all
private
citizens
who
serve
on
the
Ice
Arena
committee,
and
if
they
are
certified
as
volunteers
by
the
council,
then
they
would
be
covered
by
workman's
comp
insurance.
A
If
something
should
happen
to
them,
while
they
are
performing
their
duty.
As
a
committee
member
and
tomorrow,
these
some
of
these
folks
are
going
down
to
Sioux
Falls,
to
consult
with
the
city's
architect
RS
architects
about
the
Ice
Arena.
So
I
wanted
to
get
this
done
tonight
so
that
it's
official
so
I'd
like
a
motion
to
approve
the
list
of
volunteers
for
the
Ice
Arena
Committee
move
by
Danforth.
Second,
by
Y,
any
discussion
who.