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From YouTube: Public Works Finance & Safety Meeting 7 16 2018
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Public Works / Finance / Safety Committee Meeting agenda for July 16 2018
A
A
It's
very
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
public
input
and
this
is
the
time
for
any
citizen
to
come
up
and
if
you
have
something
to
say,
you're
welcome
to
come
up
and
approach
the
microphone
make
sure
the
green
light
is
on
the
microphone
and
state.
Your
name.
B
C
B
C
Doug
Reese
live
at
2803
5th
Avenue
Northwest
in
the
Herzog
Edition
held
by
the
airport,
I've
been
conversing
with
Dan
and
I've
gotten
a
letter
from
the
mayor
and
in
regards
to
a
sidewalk
in
my
area
and
I.
First
of
all
explained
if
you
have
any
questions,
just
stop
me
in
1993
myself
and
my
neighbor
built
new
homes
at
Derby
downs.
At
the
time
at
the
corner
of
28th
Street
and
Fifth
Avenue
Northwest,
there
is
a
grassy
lot
or
area
that
goes
up
to
the
park
there.
C
C
So
myself
and
my
neighbor
agreed
to
that
we
each
paid
for
half
that
sidewalk
and
they
ran
it
right
straight
up
to
the
park
and
that's
where
it
is.
Today
there
was
a
portion
of
sidewalk
that
stop
from.
We
went
from
my
property
line
over
to
the
driveway
of
my
neighbor,
which
is
actually
part
of
the
sidewalk
as
well
I,
don't
know
who
the
city
had
put
that
in
there
the
city
paid
for
it.
That
was
the
agreement.
C
Yeah
it'd
probably
be
best
to
show
whoever
the
city
hired
to
put
it
in,
had
absolutely
no
idea
what
they
were
doing.
They
put
in
this
probably
40
50
foot
stretch
of
concrete.
They
didn't
compact
it
underneath
they
didn't
cut
it
for
cracks,
they
didn't
edge
it
they
came
in,
they
threw
down.
Some
two
by
fours
poured
the
concrete
and
left
never
screed
it
it
it's
it's
terrible
since
that
time,
every
time
it
rains
the
water
stays
on
that
sidewalk.
C
It
runs
towards
my
neighbor's
driveway,
and
it
is
now
washed
out
under
his
driveway
and
caused
his
portion
of
the
sidewalk
and
driveway
to
actually
collapse
and
I
have
photos
of
it.
If
anybody
would
like
to
see
it,
the
portion
in
question
is
from
the
yellow
line
to
that
sidewalk,
which
is
like
I,
said,
basically,
where
the
street
would
run.
If
there
was
going
to
be
a
street
had
I
installed
that
concrete,
we
were
to
use
the
same
contractor
that
I
used,
and
we
haven't
had
one
problem,
one
ounce
of
problems
whatsoever
with
my
concrete.
C
What's
going
to
happen
eventually,
if
somebody's
going
to
hook
the
foot
or
somebody's
going
to
hit
hit
that
with
a
bicycle
and
they're
gonna
crash
I
was
advised
by
City
Hall
that
it's
my
responsibility
to
replace
that
piece
of
concrete,
because
it's
supposedly
part
of
the
boulevard
well
I,
disagree
that
I
never
put
that
concrete
in
there
to
begin
with.
That
was
a
city's
agreement
to
put
that
piece
of
concrete
in
there.
It
is
not
on
my
property,
it
is
not
on
my
boulevard.
It
does
run
up
to
a
sidewalk
that
myself
and
mr.
C
brekkie
installed,
but
that
was
only
to
benefit
the
city
to
run
that
sidewalk
up
the
middle.
Otherwise
we
had
two
sidewalks
and
then
a
blank
spot
in
the
middle.
So
my
question
is,
you
know
we
would
like
to
have
the
city
replace
that
portion
of
sidewalk
I
did
have
a
estimate
from
Vern
Moser
is
a
cement
contractor.
He
advised
me
to
replace
that
portion
of
cement
on
that
curve
would
be
six
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
and
that's
labor
material
and
then
to
repair
mr.
C
Breck,
E's
driveway
was
five
hundred
and
fifty
dollars,
and
the
reason
that
that
collapsed
is
because
that
concrete
washed
out
underneath
that
portion
of
sidewalk
at
the
end
of
where
the
problem
lies,
is
right,
where
the
driveway
and
that
sidewalk
meet.
That's
where
the
split
has
been
and
it's
raised
up
and
basically
that
concrete
that
was
installed
by
the
city
has
just
fallen
apart.
It
was
never
split,
cracked
or
anything
Doug.
C
Yeah
from
that
over
to
mr.
Breck
e's
driveway
is
the
portion
that
I'm
asking
to
be
replaced.
The
other
part
is
just
fine.
There's
no
problem
with
that,
but
once
you
hit
my
property
line
from
there
over
to
that
sidewalk
it's
shot
and
then,
like
I,
said
it
caused.
They
said
it
would
be
five
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
to
fix
his
driveway
and
six
hundred
and
fifty
to
fix
that
concrete,
and
then
it
would
be
done
right
and
I.
C
Don't
think
there'd
ever
be
another
problem,
like
I
said:
whoever
did
it
didn't
know
what
they
were
doing
to
begin
with
there.
There
can't
be
any
any
base
underneath
that
concrete,
because
when
it
rains
it
stays
wet
for
three
or
four
days
after
it
rains.
So
that's
my
input.
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
replace
that
I
do
feel
that
we
are
not
responsible
for
that,
because
we
didn't
put
it
in
there
to
begin
with,
and
it's
not
on
my
property.
It
is
on
city
property.
C
E
C
The
city
mowed
my
portion
and
mr.
Brack
ease
portion
for
many
years.
That
was
an
agreement
between
parking
rack.
They
come
in
and
put
those
trees
up
alongside
the
sidewalk
that
the
city,
the
city,
put
those
in
and
park
and
rack
maintain
that
until
the
last
couple
of
years
I've
been
mowing
and
spraying
it
because
it
would
get
so
bad
with
dandelions
I
couldn't
keep
him
out
of
my
yard.
C
We
had
not
been
cleaning
that
sidewalk,
because
we
thought
the
city
was
going
to
clean
it,
because
to
me
it's
a
city
sidewalk,
because
it's
on
city
property,
well,
I,
was
also
advised
now
by
the
letter.
I
got
that
if
we
don't
plow
that
snow
we
may
be
cited
for
not
plowing
that
snow.
This
winter
I
did
plow
it
I
plowed
it
myself.
So
so.
C
Not
gonna,
do
it
really
any
written
agreement
or
anything
it
was
just
between
I
think
it
was
Roger
Adams
at
the
time
he
said
you
can
kind
of
use
that
as
your
side
yard,
but
you
don't
really
own
it,
but
you
can't
put
anything
on
it,
but
you
can
mow
it
and
you
can
play
on
it
or
do
whatever
you
want
to
on
it.
So,
like
I
said
the
last
couple
of
years
here,
I've
been
maintaining
it.
Mr.
C
Breck
he's
been
mowing
it
for
years
up
to
the
sidewalk,
in
fact,
I
even
mow
back
around
behind
the
trees
and
even
in
there
because
half
the
time
that
doesn't
get
mowed
properly
but,
like
I,
said
we,
we
did
pay
for
that
sidewalk
going
up
to
the
park
and
it's
fine.
It's
just
that
one
curvature
part!
That's
that's
really
bad
there
and
it's
getting
worse
by
the
day.
C
C
A
C
Letter
that
I
received
was
that
concrete
sidewalk
should
be
constructed
along
each
side.
I
can
read
you
this.
It's
like
three
pages
long
now,
it's
basically
citing
the
ordinances
stating
that
it's
my
responsibility
to
repair
that
and
I.
Don't
believe
it
is.
You
know
if
we
wanted
to
cut
hairs.
There's
I
took
pictures
of
probably
a
dozen
places
up
in
Herzog
Edition
that
do
not
have
any
sidewalks
they've
never
been
installed,
there's
curb
and
gutter,
and
there's
no
sidewalks
installed
generally.
A
C
C
When
there's
no
other
there's
I
could
show
you
pictures
for
half
an
hour
there,
where
there's
no
sidewalks
installed
up
there
and
that's
not
fair
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
you
know,
that's
it
to
me,
that's
pick
and
choose,
but
you
know
I'm
all
I'm
asking
is
that
that
concrete
be
repaired
in
mr.
Becky's
driveway.
Is
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
do
with
that
either.
That's
a
you
know:
that's
caused
because
of
the
bad
concrete
that
was
poured
so
like
an
eleven
or
twelve
hundred
dollars
to
make
this
problem
go
away.
C
A
Is
that
portion
of
the
road
right-of-way,
which
is
not
being
used
as
a
road
which
would
mean
the
entire
right-of-way
right?
There
sidewalks
belong
in
boulevards?
They
don't
go
on
private
property
and
it's
the
adjacent
property
owner.
That's
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
sidewalks
according
to
our
ordinance.
So.
C
A
The
whole
development
did
not
happen
at
the
same
time.
It
was
plaited
and
then
it
took
years
sidewalks
generally
go
in
with
the
construction
of
a
house,
and
you
have
to
normally
abut
a
public
road
in
order
to
get
a
building
permit
to
build
a
house,
and
you
see
that
one
house
does
not
about
any
Road,
that's
improved
its
driveway.
It
goes
down
the
public
right-of-way
they.
A
They
were
not
required
to
build
a
road
adjacent
to
their
house
to
have
a
road
that
just
served
one
house,
so
it
is
a
unique
situation
and
that
the
road
was
not
required
to
be
installed,
but
the
sidewalk
was
and
the
sidewalk
is
shown
on
the
building
permit
for
that
house.
That's
on
the
east
side
of
the
sidewalk,
which
I
don't
think
is
mr.
Reese's
house
I.
Think
it's
someone
else's
yeah.
F
A
I,
don't
have
a
copy
of
that
with
me,
but
it
says
right
there
on
the
building
permit
that
the
sidewalk
has
to
be
constructed
and
I
think
that
that
property
owner
did
it
instead
of
building
a
road,
and
it
says
on
there
that
the
two
property
owners
will
share
the
maintenance
of
it
and
that's
you
know
it
is
a.
They
were
trying
to
save
some
money
for
the
tax
payers
that
live
there,
not
requiring
them
to
build
a
road
not
requiring
them
to
build
two
parallel
sidewalks
on
either
side
of
a
grassy
Boulevard.
A
So
money
was
saved.
There's
less
infrastructure
than
could
have
been
required
by
strict
adherence
to
the
ordinance,
but
the
function
is
retained
because
that
public
right-of-way
is
being
used
for
as
a
public
thoroughfare
for
pedestrians
and
it
does
get
used
and
is
it
necessary
in
the
winter
to
remove
snow
there?
Well,
that's
probably
debatable,
but
technically
yes,
it's
supposed
to
be
snow
removed
during
the
winter,
like
all
other
sidewalks
in.
C
C
A
C
I
A
Should
we
replace
something?
Yes,
but
our
ordinance
does
say
that
it's
the
adjacent
property
owner
responsibility
to
build
the
sidewalk
if
the
taxpayers
built
it
for
the
adjacent
property
owner,
that's
one
expense
that
the
taxpayers
have
already
made
that
maybe
wasn't
right,
but
to
follow
it
up
forever
to
be
responsible
forever
for
it,
because
they
got
that
one-time
bonus
of
not
having
to
pay
for
it
themselves.
How
fair
is
that
I?
Guess
that's!
I
C
I
F
A
Sidewalks
are
in
public
right-of-way,
that's
normal.
The
sidewalk
belongs
in
the
public
right-of-way
and
it
is
the
jacent
property
owner
by
ordinance
that's
responsible
for
the
upkeep
of
it,
and
if
we
learn
that
that
sidewalk
is
in
disrepair,
we
have
some
responsibility
to
order
it
to
be
fixed
by
the
adjacent
property
owner.
So
technically
he's.
A
C
C
C
How
about
27th
Street
down
to
Golf
Course
Road,
coming
up
from
the
new
fire
hall,
that
Street
has
never
been
brought
up
to
city
code?
There's
no
kerbin
gutters!
It's
a
single-wide
road!
Coming
up
there
I
was
told
the
reason
that
the
city
hasn't
put
a
street
in
there
and
kerbin
gutters
is
because
the
landowners
on
both
sides
would
have
to
pay.
For
that.
That's
true,
which
I
did
that
I
had
to
pay
for
that
myself
when
I
had
mine
put
in
so
did
everybody
else
up
there
and.
A
J
A
C
D
A
D
A
F
I
I
If
we
must
be
able
to
find,
though,
that
if
that
was
built
at
the
same
time,
is
that
both
those
property
owner,
if
that
was
built,
the
same
time,
I
can
tell
you
having
walked
out
there,
that
the
sidewalk
going
north,
the
sidewalk
going
west
and
the
sidewalk
going
he's
are
really
in
good
shape
and
then
there's
this
piece.
It's
like.
If
you
cut
this
little
deal
right
here
in
half,
it's
got
this
in
half
and
then
part
of
it
is
absolutely
perfect
and
part
of
it.
It
looks
like
I
put
it
in.
I
A
I
B
A
B
B
A
A
The
right-of-way
is
necessary
because
it
is
the
way
that
we
access
a
public
park.
That's
the
way
the
public
gets
to
the
public
park
and
rights-of-way
are
not
just
for
cars.
Rights-Of-Way
are
for
people,
whether
they're
on
a
bike
or
a
car
or
on
foot
rights-of-way
are
owned
by
the
public
and
maintained
by
property
owners
adjacent
those
are
corner.
Lots
and
that's
you
know
they
weren't
required
ever
Road
there,
but
they
were
required
to
have
a
sidewalk
because
there's
a
park
so
I
mean
we
can
start
taking
over
maintenance
of
those
if
you'd
like.
A
But
this
isn't
the
only
one
it'd
be
prepared
for
a
very
long
laundry
list
and
a
change
in
policy.
This
isn't
how
we've
done
business
and
I
mean
it's.
We
get
this
request
constantly
snow
removal
like
when
we
do
a
street
project
and
the
sidewalk
goes
in
people
since
we
put
it
in.
They
think
we
should
remove
the
snow
I,
never
even
wanted
that
sidewalk.
Why
should
I
have
to
remove
the
snow?
Why
should
I
have
to
fix
it?
I,
don't
even
want
it.
A
It's
not
for
the
adjacent
property
owners
necessarily
is
for
the
public
and
the
public.
This
is
how
we
pay
for
it.
In
our
unity,
our
regulations
specify
that
the
adjacent
property
owners
will
pay
for
the
sidewalk
adjacent
to
their
property
in
the
public.
Right-Of-Way
and
I
mean,
if
you
want
to
change
that,
we
can
I
would.
B
Say
just
we
do
need
I
think
we
need
to
get
somebody
that,
with
some
engineering
expertise
that
can
look
at
this
section,
because
if
it
was
put
in
substandard
and
it
did
cause
these
issues,
I'm
sure
somebody
could
probably
tell
it,
even
though
it's
a
25
year
old
sidewalk,
but
that
that's
part,
that's
part
of
that
assessment.
I
think
I
think
that
if
it
was
put
in
substandard
ly,
I
think
that
makes
a
difference
on
how
we
what
direction
we
go
with
this
thing.
H
A
So
I
think
so,
because
we
have
sidewalks
that
we've
discovered
we're
in
disrepair
and
we've
ordered
people
to
fix
it
and
now,
on
this
case,
if
we
suddenly
change
that
policy
and
start
repairing
it
because
well
we're
not
sure,
but
we
think
we
might
have
installed
it.
You
know,
sidewalks
things
happen
over
time.
Ground
settles
whatever
and
sidewalks
collapse
and
they
need
to
be
fixed.
Sometimes
routes
push
them
up.
A
We
have
not,
as
a
general
rule,
gone
through
there
as
a
community
and
fix
sidewalks
unless
we're
fixing
it
for
a
DA
mm-hmm,
which
is
a
change
in
regulation.
We
repair
sidewalks
in
that
manner
because
the
regulations
changed
it
was
installed
by
whoever
and
now
the
rules
are
different
and
we're
bringing
it
up
to
current
regulations.
This
is
not
a
case
here.
This
is
a
case
of
maintenance.
J
G
G
Well,
I
mean
I,
didn't
hear
him
say
that
necessarily
so
I
guess
I'd
be
interested
to
know
to
how
long
it's
been
that
way,
because
I
think
too
that
if
that
north-south
stretch,
the
sidewalk
he
is
in
great
shape,
I
mean
he's,
got
a
valid
argument.
My
opinion
then,
for
this
stretch
that
is
apparently
been
a
problem
now
if
it
happened
overnight
within
the
last
year
or
two
we
had
25
years
a
long
time,
you
can't
expect
the
lasts
forever,
but
I
guess
I'd
be
internal.
How
long
there
has
been
a
problem
with
that
stretch.
G
A
A
A
H
I
can
come
into
that.
It
is
noticeably
different
and
and
there
it
is
a
very
unwalkable,
our
difficult
walkable
subdivision
in
general
because
of
the
change
in
the
sidewalks,
no
sidewalks
that
section
right
there
honestly
I
walk
my
son's
dog
through
there.
That's
that's
why
I've
been
there
and
it
is,
it
does
not
appear
to
be
made
out
of
anything
different.
It
looks
like
the
rest
of
the
sidewalk,
so
I
can't
speak
to
that.
You
know
I
can't
say:
oh,
it
stops
here
and
starts
here,
and
this
is
different
work.
H
D
D
D
D
D
A
D
That's
what
I'm
saying
Doug
so
and
probably
the
reason
why
the
two
end
owners
had
nothing
to
do
with
the
installation
of
this
fourth,
at
least
as
they're
stating
there's
mr.
Issa
stating
I'd
like
to
get
some
input
from
the
person
that
owns
the
other
property
I
wish
they
had
been
here
today
because
there's
something
time
but
I'm
just
going
to
assume.
If
both
of
those
parties
were
in
you're
saying
we
did
not
install
that
the
city
installed
it.
D
A
D
A
H
F
A
Next
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
the
agenda.
Sir
motion
move
by
Councilwoman
manty
second
by
Councilman
Roby
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item
number
4
is
award
of
contract
to
AP
and
Sons
construction
for
the
13th
Avenue
South
East
sanitary
sewer
improvements,
project,
number,
1821
and
Colin
has
some
information
on
this.
This
is
an
assessment
project,
so
it
isn't
a
simple
matter
of
awarding
to
the
low
bidder,
because
we
we
had
an
estimate
and
all
that
Colin
explained.
Yes,.
K
K
K
All
all
the
other
bids,
the
next
was
one
hundred
and
fifty
three
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
six
thousand,
roughly
so
even
considerably
higher
than
the
138
thousand,
so
I
did
call
the
agent
for
this.
That's
kind
of
been
dealing
with
all
the
the
city
work
on
this
and
I
explained
to
him
that
our
estimated
per
foot
cost
was
thirty
five
to
forty
and
it
ended
up
coming
in
at
thirty.
Seven.
Fifty
is
how
we
estimated
it.
A
K
A
K
K
D
A
K
D
K
I
think
we
were
low
on
our
her
engineer's
estimate
on
a
couple
items
and
with
that
it
it's
been
an
extremely
busy
summer
for
most
contractors
and
the
ones
that
bid
on
this
are
no
different.
A
peon
sons
are.
It
was
a
little
bitter
on
this
one
and
they're
doing
a
lot
of
city
work
and
they're
they're
busy
with
their
own
projects
as
well.
So
it
didn't
surprise
me
to
see
it
that
high,
it
really
didn't.
A
D
A
K
As
part
of
this
project,
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up.
We
did
do
the
chip
see
on
this,
and
this
was
a
discussion
item
a
few
months
ago,
while
Shane
was
still
here
actually,
but
for
this
one,
the
chip
steel
amount
came
in
eight,
eight
thousand
one
hundred
and
forty
four
dollars
and
38
cents,
so
that
would
be
included
in
the
internal
assessment.
So
that
raises
that
costs
a
little
bit
beyond
of
just
the
work
that
needed
to
be
done
on
13th
Avenue,
so
the
underground
work.
A
A
A
L
On
this
project,
the
the
car
I
can
just
talk
about
what
was
bid
and
what's
missing
from
this
lift
station,
that's
why
that
it
has
to
be
updated.
When
we
find
my
oh
here,
it
is
okay,
this
lift
station
it
currently
doesn't
have
a
second
pump
in
it
and
it
doesn't
have
all
the
valving
and
pump
piping
to
support
that
pump
and
the
reason
being
is
this:
force
main:
has
a
history
of
freezing
and
in
winter
conditions,
on
the
deep
end
that
the
wet
well
I
think
the
wet.
Well,
it's
about
nine
foot
deep!
L
You
come
up
to
the
manhole
that
it
discharged
into
it.
It's
hooked
into
a
dead
end.
Manhole
that
wasn't
there
to
you
receive
services
was
it
was
a
dead
end
manhole
those
available,
and
that
manhole
is
only
four
foot
deep.
So
you
know
now
that
your
pipe
is
coming
out
of
the
depths
up
into
the
frost
line.
So
the
lift
station
is
missing
a
second
pump
on
the
related
valves
and
piping.
L
So
that's
that's
how
they
stopped
the
pipe
of
freezing,
so
it
would
work
at
all.
So
that's
that's
why
the
force
beam
has
ended
up
going
past.
The
current
point
of
connection
public
sewer
to
a
manhole.
That's
six
foot
too
deep,
so
you're
you're
pretty
much
below
the
frost,
most
conditions,
then
so
I
guess
that's
the
problems
that
were
with
a
lift
station
and
they
resulted
in
this
bid
I'd
why
it's
so
different
from
the
opinion
of
cost,
I'm,
I
wouldn't
know
yeah.
A
A
L
Along
your
thought,
there
I
don't
know
what
I'm
probably
Colin
doesn't
either
at
what
point
we
developed
that
opinion
of
cost
and
what
it
included
originally
I
think
there
was
hope
that
some
of
the
freezing
conditions
were
due
to
being
this
proximity
to
a
shallow
storm
sewer,
causing
it
to
freeze.
So
the
original
opinion
or
engineer
assessment
may
not
have
had
the
whole
force
mean
figured
you.
K
L
A
D
Got
a
whole
I,
don't
know
how
many
different
owners
we're
a
part
of
this
the
great
to
do
this.
But
how
does
that
work
on
something
like
this?
Where
I
mean,
if
I
was
expecting
my
prorated
portion
of
99
thousand
and
now
it's
a
hundred
and
something
140,000
well,
I'd,
probably
be
a
little
bit
alarmed
at
that.
D
F
A
It
to
overturn
us
doing
this,
but
Kristen
do
we
even
have.
Has
it's
gone
beyond
that?
Probably
I
mean
it's
not
within
our
range,
so
that's
probably
the
key
thing
to
look
at.
We
could
probably
be
liable
for
the
extra
cost
at
city,
taxpayers
expense.
If
we
went
forward
with
this
and
they
revolted
I,
don't
know
if
they'd
be
able
to
overturn
it
completely,
but
we
want
to
be
really
careful
before
we.
D
J
A
Nay,
you
you
have
30
days
to
award
the
contract.
I
guess
you
could
probably
put
a
contingency
in
there
that
you
have
a
written
petition
from
at
least
55
or
at
least
46
percent
I'd.
Let
Matt
talk
about
that
if
we
wanted
I've,
never
seen
that
done
a
contingency
award
of
contract
and
then
within
the
next
couple
weeks
before
the
30
days
is
up,
we
would
check
with
the
property
owners
so.
K
J
K
A
K
D
A
You
have
to
award
it,
and
so
we
could
not
act
on
it
and
then,
if
we
find
that
the
majority
that
people
want
to
move
forward
which
I'm
guessing
they
don't
they're,
probably
if
it
were
me
I'd
say
wait
till
the
spring
and
remit
it.
But
if
the
majority
says
no,
we
don't
want
to
take
a
chance.
It
might
even
be
more
expensive
next
year,
then
you
can
call
a
special
meeting
and
award
the
contract
before
the
30
days
have
expired,
but
if
they
depend
on
your
recommendation,
I
can
remove
this
from
the
council
agenda.
A
H
A
A
Right
if
we
don't
award
the
bid,
then
the
project
doesn't
move
forward
and
it
won't
be
assessed
this
year
anyway.
So
we,
whatever
I,
don't
know
what
we
have
to
do.
Kristin
can
I,
don't
think
anything's
officially
filed
yet
because
we
don't
have
the
final
cost.
So
you
maybe
don't
have
to
do
anything
with
that.
Just
let
it
go
away
and
then
redo
it
next
year,
probably
save
for
a
councilman
Roby.
F
Agree
if
everything
that's
been
said
here,
I,
the
hesitation
I
always
have
is
once
a
bids
open,
then
the
guy
or
gal
or
the
company
has
a
little
bit.
Their
numbers
are
on
the
table.
But
in
this
case,
when
it's
it's
that
big,
then
I
think
we're
warranted
in
doing
that.
So,
first
and
foremost.
Secondly,
there
are
we
incurring
costs
along
the
way
on
this
now,
there's
a
way
to
spend
$25,000
fix
and
stuff
this
winter.
L
This
is
not
our
lift
station,
yet
it's
a
private
lift
station
until
we
upgrade
it
and
take
it
over.
It's
not
our
lift
station,
so
the
lift
station
would
sit,
as
is
as
it
functioned,
I
think
for
the
last.
What
10
years
I
saw
I,
don't
know
what
was
built
but
it'll
pump.
Some
a
lot
of
that
will
flow
back
in
the
lift
station.
It
won't
freeze,
but
it's
it's
it
won't
be.
We
won't
be
maintaining
it
or
responding
to
alarms
it's
not
even
connected
to
our
telemetry
system.
So
it's
still
private
yeah.
I
H
H
A
Discussion
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
item.
Number
five
is
consideration
of
change
order
number
two
with
donek
ink
for
the
sanitary
sewer
replacements
project
number
1808
in
the
amount
of
four
thousand
one
hundred
twenty
five
dollars.
A
K
So
this
is
a
the
second
change
order
for
1808,
but
it
is
for
a
different
roadway
section.
This
is
actually
for
Street
southeast
and
the
other
one
was
for
the
Northwest
they're,
both
for
Street.
This.
We
ran
into
a
few
issues
along
this
line,
while
installing
the
sanitary
sewer-
and
this
particular
I
guess
difficulty
that
we
ran
into
was
the
storm
sewer
it.
It
did
rain
during
the
time
they
had
it
open
and
all
the
joints
above
the
sanitary
sewer
were
leaking.
K
So
it
flooded
the
project
and
thankfully
the
wastewater
department
was
able
to
come
out
and
help
out
pump
pump
some
water
out
of
there
and
in
the
storm
sewer
in
general,
but
I
determined
that
it
was,
we
should
fix
it
now,
don't
leave
it
as
is,
and
then
cover
it
up,
and
hopefully
it
doesn't
leak
because
we
could
physically
see
the
leaking.
So
I
guess
this
is
they
had
to
reconstruct
just
the
joints
essentially
put
some
concrete
collars
on
her.
A
All
right
so
kind
of
necessary
work.
We
didn't
know
we
were
going
to
have
to
do,
but
the
best
time
to
do
this
is
when
the
roads
turn
up
motion
by
Brobee
ii
by
vill
Hauer.
Is
there
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye?
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item
number
six
is
request
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
an
application
to
place
the
wastewater
treatment
facility
administration,
building
on
the
state
water
plan
and
I?
A
L
This
application,
as
mentioned
places
the
wastewater
treatment
facility,
Administration
Building
project
on
the
state
water
plan.
This
is
not
a
loan
application.
It
simply
places
the
project
on
the
state
water
plan,
which
is
the
first
step
in
securing
funding
that
will
most
likely
be
necessary
for
the
completion
of
this
project.
As
you
know,
we
completed
the
wastewater
treatment
facility
administration,
building
space
requirement
evaluation.
Earlier
this
year,
HDR
engineering
provided
their
recommendations
to
the
public
works
committee
on
may
16th
of
this
year.
L
After
that,
I
then
worked
with
the
first
district
of
local
governments
to
assemble
the
application
for
the
state
water
plan.
That's
before
you
tonight,
and
at
this
point
we
have
budgeted
for
the
design
of
this
project
to
refine
the
costs
in
2019,
subject
to
the
future
approval
of
the
City
Council
when
they
consider
the
budget,
and
we
are
budgeting
for
the
construction
of
this
project
in
2020.
L
Based
upon
that
pre
design,
conceptual
opinion
of
probable
construction
cost
as
we
go
through
a
design
will
refine
the
actual
costs
and
then
right
now
at
a
pre
design
stage,
there's
a
25%
contingency,
which
is
about
1.2
million
dollars.
At
this
point,
until
you
go
through
design,
you'll
you'll
find
things
that
you
didn't
consider
you'll
want
to
consider
it,
but
a
lot
of
that
will
probably
be
reduced,
but
to
know
to
get
a
firmer,
just
cost
estimate.
We
need
to
go
through
the
design
process.
L
It
had
a
principle
of
just
under
2.6
million
at
five
and
a
quarter
percent
interest
with
an
annual
debt
service
about
two
hundred
ten
thousand,
so
we've
retired
some
debt,
that's
built
into
a
current
rate
structure.
So
in
my
mind
we
want
to,
and
we're
gonna
need
some
assistance
to
put
to
make
this
project
come
through.
But
so
I've
looked
at
these
numbers
and
essentially
with
the
twenty
five
percent
contingency
that
we've
got
in
this
because
we
don't
have
a
design.
Yet
if
you
actually,
we
realized
that
twenty
five
percent
contingency
became
real
costs.
L
But
if
you,
if
you
design
the
project
and
the
contingency,
went
away,
you
took
off
that
1.2
1.3
million,
then
at
that
point,
our
our
insurance
payment,
plus
this
2.6
million
dollar
loan
that
we
just
retired
by
taking
another
similar
loan
out,
would
fund
the
project
all
within
you
know
our
current
rate
structure
that
the
debt
service
on
that
loan
that
two
hundred
ten
thousand
is
what
we
we
paid
annually
on
that
loan.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
tonight.
It's
just
a
state
water
plan
application,
but
I
wanted
to
what.
G
L
For
the
project
to
move
forward,
we
will
need
some
financial
assistance
and
that's
the
first
step
in
going
after
an
srf
loan.
Once
we've
got
design
complete
and
we
have
fermer.
We'd
have
fermer
cost
estimates,
probably
still
pretty
bid.
So
you
you
get
any
funding.
Assistance.
You've
got
to
be
on
that
plan
with
this
project.
Okay,.
G
L
L
We
can't
get
a
grant
and
actually,
in
reality,
when
I've
talked
to
the
state
about
this,
the
people
that
have
got
grants
or
the
communities
that
have
got
grants
for
waste
water
projects
recently
or
have
sewer
fees,
monthly
fees
more
than
the
range
of
40
to
45
dollars
a
month.
So
you
aren't,
any
assistance
to
us
on
this
project
would
come
in
the
form
of
an
additional
loan
and
this
would
be
the
first
step,
but
it's
not
taking
the
loan
out.
L
It's
just
getting
us
on
this
plan
this
list
and
it
would
be
on
that
list
until
December
of
2019
by
then
we
would
have
design
completed,
and
so
the
only
thing
we
probably
wouldn't
have
done
this
bid
the
project
so
we'll
have
a
real,
firm
grip
on
how
much
that
contingency
gets
reduced.
How
much
assistance
do
we
need
in
terms
of
financing
with
our
cash
reserves
and
the
insurance
payment
that
we've
got
coming
to
the
Enterprise
Fund?
We're
really
sitting
pretty
good
I?
L
Think
it's
realistic
that
we
could
get
this
done
without
impacting
our
rate,
although
I
have
budgeted
for
a
rate
evaluation
for
the
sewer
Enterprise
Fund
in
2020,
because
in
2000
are
assuming
2019
and
in
2019
it'll
be
15
years
since
the
last
time
we
did
look
at
our
rate
structures
and
innovations
out
there
so,
but
I
think
looking
at
we've
got
four
cash
reserves
with
the
insurance
money
and
their
debt
we've
just
retired,
being
built
into
our
current
rate
structure.
I
think
that's
very
it's
very
possible.
A
So
the
first
step
in
getting
a
loan
is
to
put
it
on
the
state
water
plan.
If
we
were
going
to
pay
for
this
completely
out
of
our
own
reserves,
we
would
not
need
to
put
this
on
the
state
water
plan
and
they
probably
aren't
even
any
other
documents
that
go
along
with
that.
It
just
adds
it
to
a
list
so
that
they
can
plan
their
money.
The
state
has
money,
and
the
next
step
after
that
would
be
applying
for
a
loan,
correct,
yep
and
and
that'll
be
with
new
revised
numbers.
Yes,.
L
We're
again,
we
plan
on
completing
design
next
year,
because
if
we
have
to
defer
the
project,
we
can
dust
off
a
design
a
year
or
two
later,
and
it's
not
a
great
effort
and
proceed
at
that
point.
But
we
really
need
to
refine
refine
the
cost
and
really
define
the
project,
because
this
is
a
kiss
of
conceptual
layout.
I
know
the
engineers
that
gave
us
that
cost
they
they
take
their
design
layout
and
they
compare
it.
L
They
get
data
out
of
this
rs
means
it's
North,
America's
leading
construction
cost
database
and
they
take
a
look
at
similar
projects
of
this
type
of
construction,
and
so
they've
got
a
pretty
good
ballpark
at
where
we're
gonna
be
what
we
really
need
to
get
through
the
design.
It
is
still
a
ballpark.
Yes,.
L
F
L
L
A
G
L
I
think
the
loner
just
retired
the
interest
rate
on
the
loan.
The
financing
alone
was
like
three
point:
nine
percent
I
think
there
might
be
a
little
bit
lower
than
that
now
and
then
there's
another
small
percentage
like
in
this
previous
loan
to
a
retired
is
about
one,
and
a
quarter
percent
was
for
goes
back
to
the
state
for
administering
the
funds
and
all
the
paperwork
of
handling
the
financing.
So
yeah
I
think
we
got
a
pretty
good
interest
rate
and
I.
L
A
Any
other
questions
or
comments
is
there
a
motion,
second
move
by
Councilman,
Villa
or
second
by
Councilman
l'olam,
to
recommend
authorizing
the
mayor
to
sign
the
application,
any
other
required
documents
to
put
this
on
the
state
water
plan.
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item.
Number
seven
is
old
business.
Is
there
any?