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From YouTube: BOA & Plan Commission Meeting 8 8 2019
Description
City of Watertown, SD
A
C
B
C
D
D
B
Okay,
owner
applicants
are
Tanner
Cohen
and
Ashley
Larson.
The
property
address
is
18
sixth
Street
southeast.
This
is
a
conditional
use
request.
The
applicants
seek
approval
to
operate
a
home
daycare
business
from
their
single-family
dwelling
located
in
the
art
to
a
single-family
attached,
a
residential
district
pursuant
to
chapters
21
our
sections,
21
1804,
21,
1603,
1
and
21,
1403,
1
and
5,
and
contingent
upon
compliance
with
home
occupations
and
standards.
The
chapter
and
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses
Larson
proposes
to
regularly
utilize
their
2525
524
square-foot
single-family
dwelling
for
the
daycare
business.
B
The
property
surpasses
the
minimum
square
footage
of
interior
floor
area
and
soon
to
be
fenced.
Outdoor
recreation,
space
required
for
up
to
12
children
per
city,
ordinance,
21,
1403,
1
Larson
excuse
me,
Larson,
is
not
currently
registered
with
the
state
staff
finds
that
daycare
home
is
a
listed
conditional
use
for
the
r2
single-family
attached
residential
district,
provided
that
such
facilities
shall
provide
not
less
than
35
square
feet
of
interior
floor
area
and
50
feet
of
square
feet
of
outdoor
recreation
space
for
each
child.
B
In
addition,
such
facilities
shall
supply
adequate
off-street
parking
or
other
suitable
plan
for
the
loading
and
unloading
of
children
so
as
not
to
obstruct
public
streets
or
create
other
traffic
or
safety
hazards.
The
applicants
submitted
written
request,
site
plan
and
floor
plans
which
reflect
compliance
or
non-compliance
with
the
following
ordinance
requirement.
B
21:02
o
b7
A
through
H
is
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses,
and
this
includes
the
review
of
ingress
and
egress
off
street
parking
and
loading
screening
and
buffering
signage,
exterior
lighting
required
yards
and
open
space
and
general
compatibility.
Whatever
applies
to
this
specific
situation,
the
property
has
three
off-street
parking.
Spaces
are
required
for
just
the
primary
use
of
the
property,
which
is
single-family
dwelling
and
currently
home
occupations
have
no
minimum
requirements.
B
Any
signage
must
comply
with
21700
8
in
chapter
21,
80
and
Larson
has
acknowledged
by
signature,
which
is
included
in
your
packet,
her
understanding
and
assurance
to
comply
with
those
the
standards.
So
this
board
must
determine
if
the
request
shows
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
concerning
chapters
chapter,
20,
170,
home
occupations
and
standards
and
the
specific
rules
governing
conditional
uses
and
the
titles
and
chapters
that
are
referenced
in
the
table.
If
endorsed
this
board
may
consider
imposing
any
conditions
of
approval
deemed
necessary
for
this
secondary
use,
for
example,
additional
parking
spaces
or
play
yard
fences,
etc.
A
A
At
this
time,
I,
you
you've
got
a
note
here
that
so
the
maximum
amount
of
children
that
you're
gonna
care
for
is
12.
Do
you
already
have
children
lined
up
to
to
start
your
operation?
No
you're
not
currently
running
a
daycare.
This
is
something
that
you
want
to
just
start
doing.
Yes,
the
the
fence
that
you
planned
to
put
in
the
backyard.
Do
you
have
a
time
frame
on
on
when
that
would
be
I'm.
A
A
B
B
B
A
F
C
A
G
A
A
B
We
do
we,
the
board,
had
reviewed
a
day
care
with
Heather
Johnson
last
year
about
this
time
and
as
a
condition
of
her
approval
at
that
time
because
of
a
parking,
a
different
parking
issue
than
usual,
they
asked
her
to
come
back
for
a
review
that
was
daycare
application.
Eight
one,
eight,
oh
seven,
seven
and
she's
here
today
to
answer
questions
from
you.
A
You,
if
you
could
zoom
out
just
a
little
bit
Jill,
just
to
kind
of
give
a
brief
overview
to
everybody
else,
on
the
reason
why
we
had
so
much
discussion
on
this
particular
property.
You
can
see
right
there
that
north
and
southbound
main
road
there
is
highway
81
and
the
property
in
question
here
is
sitting
right
on
3rd
Avenue,
North
being
a
major
collector
route
and
a
controlled
intersection
there
with
stoplights.
A
It
is
particularly
busy
at
the
time
of
day
that
are
frequent
to
to
daycare
parents,
so
you
know
in
the
morning
at
about
8:00
and
then
in
the
evening
at
5:00,
when
everybody's
getting
off
work.
So
a
lot
of
discussion
on
the
proximity
there
and
that's
the
safety
of
unloading,
the
children
and
the
impact
to
traffic.
So
that
was
the
primary
concern
when
we
had
the
discussion
previously.
I
Reported
car
accidents,
of
course,
laughs,
I,
think
that
was
the
biggest
issue
and
one
make
sure
that
when
people
were
exiting
back
out
on
a
highway,
anyone
that
we
wanted
to
see
yeah
I
track
history,
that
it
was
gonna,
take
care
of
itself
and
so
I.
Think
myself
was
one
individuals
who
were
talking
about
that
and
so
I'm
satisfied.
H
Got
approved
for
an
easement
on
the
back
of
the
driveway,
but
I
brought
all
my
papers
like
I,
said
I
would
the
census,
from
the
year
I've
only
had
six
families
and
all
all
at
one
time,
I'm
down
to
four
kids
when
school
starts
and
three
car
or
two
cars,
so
I
haven't
I
have
the
gravel
we
can
build
it.
We
just
haven't
had
I
haven't,
had
a
full
capacity,
take
care
to
have
it
be
a
problem.
A
I
C
F
A
B
J
A
A
A
A
You
brandy
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
invitation
for
public
comment
participants
if
you'd
like
to
speak
for
about
five
minutes
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
on
something,
that's
not
on
the
agenda,
go
ahead
and
come
forward
and
sign
up.
Second
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda?
Is
there
any
adjustments
that
we
need
to
make?
Okay.
E
E
A
E
E
Okay,
so
what
is
in
front
of
you
here
is
the
compasses
for
the
Commission
consideration
of
recommending
resolution
number
20,
1921,
City,
Council,
initiating
annexation
of
a
tract
of
land
contiguous
to
the
city
of
Watertown,
known
as
Enders
third
edition
and
resolution
number
20
1924,
which
establishes
the
zoning
designation
of
C
3
highway
commercial
district,
4
Andrus
3rd
edition
as
well.
So
what
you'll
see
in
your
packet
and
here
I
have
it
pulled
up
on
the
screen?
E
E
The
the
property
is
within
the
sewer
water
territories,
so
the
petitioner
will
be
required
to
pay
five
thousand
dollars
upon
the
annexation
when
once
they
Platte
and
then
also
there
will
be
a
trunk
sewer
tapping
fee
once
the
once
they
Platte
as
well
for
this
property,
and
we
also
have
been
reviewing
the
concept
plan
for
unders
third
edition
and
as
well
as
the
preliminary
plan.
We
should
be
getting
revisions
made
to
that,
so
we
can
have
a
design
review
team
meeting
and
the
concept
plan
should
be
included.
E
Okay,
so
this
is
something
that
will
present
to
plan
commission
for
informational
purposes.
We
don't
have
to
take
action
on
it.
The
preliminary
plan
will
come
forth
and
that's
what
you
guys
will
act
on.
So
what
you'll
see
is
now
what
we
requested.
So
there's
there's
right-of-way
here
with
which
is
10th
Avenue
southeast,
and
you
can
anticipate
a
plat
coming
for
that,
because
I
believe
that
they
want
to
get
working
on
constructing
that
still
this
season
and
then
also
they
have
shown
the
right-of-way
that
will
extend
south
and
connect
the
226
streets.
E
But
that
is
something
that
we
requested
that'll
be
coming
on
the
preliminary
plan.
It
just
wasn't
shown
on
the
concept
plan.
There's
not
the
subdivision
of
the
Lots
aren't
shown
yet,
but
really
when
they
come
in
and
they
plat
they
should.
There,
though,
plat
is
one
parcel
and
then
they'll
just
show
the
right-of-way
at
tenth
Avenue.
E
I
E
A
I
I
guess
where
I
was
gonna
I'm
following
weights.
Thinking
is
that
if
the
entries
are
to
construct
10th
Avenue
to
city
standards
with
those
two
other
Lots,
which
would
ultimately
have
access
to
tenth
Avenue
would
entries
get
something
back
in
a
pro-rata
share
for
the
construction
of
that
those
people's
yeah
I
mean
those
people
get
a
benefit
of
the
construction
of
10th
Avenue
without
having
to
pay
anything.
I
E
I
E
I
E
I
It
really
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
end.
Reasoning.
I
think
needs
to
be
addressed.
Also
when
your
design
review
are
you
looking
at
what
the
impact
to
traffic
is
going
to
be
at
the
intersection
of
26th
and
highway
212?
Yes,
I'm,
assuming
that
and
also
I'm
guessing
what
dumps
out
onto
23rd
as
well
yep.
E
H
A
E
I
E
I
I
F
I
Talking
the
Andrews
property?
Okay,
if
we
zone
it
to
c3
all
of
the
agricultural
and
residential
uses
on
the
property,
become
non-conforming
and
then
would
fall
under
the
city's
non-conforming
standards,
which
would
preclude
us
from
issuing
any
permits
associated
with
either
the
residential
or
agricultural
use.
Correct
right.
H
A
I
H
L
L
A
A
E
Yes,
so
this
will
be
Commission
consideration
of
resolution
number
20
1926
for
the
approval
of
a
preliminary
plan
of
River
Ridge
Estates
addition,
as
submitted
by
the
developers
high
plane
development
court
subject
to
all
planning
requirements.
So
this
you'll
remember
we
approved
in
2017
On
June
8th.
So
this
is
an
amendment
to
that
preliminary
plan.
As
you'll
see,
there
are
some
changes
as
far
as
the
park
placement
and
then
the
zoning
and
the
lot
configuration
adjacent
to
26th
Street
are
26
26
AB
this.
E
E
In
June,
I
can't
find
the
date,
but
so
anyways
they
approved
it.
This
will
be
creating.
There
will
be
six,
are
three
multifamily
residential
lots,
1c
three
commercial
or
C
3
highway
commercial,
and
that
will
be
on
the
intersection
of
26th
and
2nd
and
there
will
be
84
r1
single-family
residential
lots
all
proposed
to
be
done
within
seven
phases,
which
is
far
down
the
line
and
far
in
the
future.
E
I
E
I
C
E
So
it
is
in
that
central
location
that
the
Park
Board
did
request
and
it
is
the
8.4
acres
that
are
required,
and
that
is
not
including
the
detention
pond
areas,
because
that
was
a
concern
to
that.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
take
over
that.
That's
not
our
Park
areas.
The
city
still
will
take
those
over
because
it
is
residential
once
they're
constructed
to
our
standards,
but
it
is,
and
there
are
areas
so
we
shifted
those
Lots
in.
K
Yes,
so,
and
maybe
that
Collin's
actually
a
better
seasonal
and
I
actually
designed
it,
but
the
more
we
looked
into
it
because
these
Lots
drain
to
the
the
West
at
a
considerable
rate.
They
have
to
do
some
something
slightly
different
because
you
can't
really
get
it
into
a
pond
efficiently.
So
it's
kind
of
it's
a
unique.
Let
me
see
here:
I
can
pull
it
up
on
my
computer.
It's
on
the
plans
here.
E
K
K
I
I
E
I
E
I
I
C
M
I
N
A
N
I
A
Water
conveyance
methods,
point
of
failure
is
typically
getting
clogged
or
silt
today
and
something
where
the
water
Korea
longer
be
conveyed
through
it.
If
that
happened,
and
these
failed
sometime
down
the
road,
where
would
the
expected
water
ago?
Would
it
back
up
then
on
to
that
landowners,
property?
Well,.
A
N
I
H
M
I
I
E
They
can
refer
back
to
this
meeting.
I'll.
Keep
that
in
the
record
and
then
to
like,
like
Khalid
I
mentioned
the
BMP
development
agreement
will
definitely
ensure
that
the
maintenance
will
be
taken
care
of,
because
if
the
property
owner
isn't
doing
it
and
it
is
causing
a
nuisance
or
you
know
it's
failing,
then
the
city
can
come
in
and
and
fix
that.
E
Definitely
the
BMP
I
actually
can't
believe
that
that's
slipped
my
mind,
but
so
I'm
glad
that
Colin
brought
that
up,
but
the
BMP
development
agreement
doesn't
have
a
shelf
life
like
the
development
agreement.
Does
everything
has
to
be
installed
within
two
years?
So
we
would
want
those
installed,
but
then
we
would
have
that
agreement.
That
would
be
perpetual
and
would
run
with
the
properties
that
it
would
come
up
in
a
title
search.
If
somebody
was
gonna
buy
that
lot,
they
would
know
what
they
would
be
getting
themselves
into.
So.
J
E
A
E
E
A
E
Correct
so
the
access
could
come
from
now,
there's
also
a
manhole
on
the
wet
over
here.
If
you
can
see
that
and
then
that
has
to
be
hard
surface
because
there
has
to
be
all
weather
access
to
the
manholes,
so
either
an
access
could
come
from
that
and
then
utilize.
You
know
the
the
paving
there
for
how
multi-purpose
or
we
could
do
it
from
Cheyenne
Lane
to
it's
really
just
what
the
park
board
decides
when
they're
designing
this
park
and
they
are
anticipating
to
put
a
park
up
here
and
I
can't
remember
the
timeline.
A
E
Access,
they
would
most
likely
put
some
type
of
parking
lot
width
in
there,
so
they
would
have
the
driveway
either
off
of
7th,
Street
or
Cheyenne,
and
then
would
would
most
likely
have
a
parking
lot.
I
would
imagine
beans,
it's
a
residential
neighborhood
people
have
visitors,
I
mean
we
can't.
We
can't
look
for
utilizing
the
on
street
parking
for
the
park
as
well.
If
we
want
people
to
in.
A
Many
many
other
hoods,
the
the
community
that
lives
around
it
or
walking
to
the
park
to
enjoy
the
time
outside
to
enjoy
the
park
facilities.
Even
Highland
Park,
which
is
right
in
my
neighborhood,
has
got
an
extraordinary
amount
of
parking
adjacent
to
it.
But
you
know
most
of
the
time
it's
it's
empty
of
cars.
It's
it's
people
that
want
to
walk
down
there,
yeah
tee
tee
ball.
There
you
go
and
get
a
baseball
field
and
everybody's
traveling
in
but.
J
A
E
L
E
A
A
E
E
E
The
only
reason
why
it
is
in
front
of
you
is
because
they
are
showing
that
this
10-foot
wide
utility
easement
will
be
vacated
per
this
plat
and
then
you'll
notice,
here
to
that
17th
Avenue
has
been
previously
vacated
and
that
was
approved
by
Planning,
Commission
and
City
Council,
and
so
with
this
utility
easement,
they
did
work
with
the
municipal
utilities
and
confirmed
that
there
wasn't
a
need
for
it
if
they
relocated
where
the
utilities
were
going.
But
this
is
where
wood
runs
through
the
building
where
it
currently
is.
E
E
Just
do
the
resolution,
because
technically
only
the
council
needs
to
authorize
the
mayor
to
sign
the
two
agreements
that
are
forthcoming,
but
we
just
always
included
for
your
informational
purposes
and
then,
if
there's
anything
that
you
catch
or
want
added
the
BMP
development
agreement.
That's
attached
with
this
plat
that
is
just
like
we
had
talked
about
before
with
River
Ridge.
It
discusses
the
maintenance
requirements
for
the
three
ponds
that
they
are
showing
for
their
site.
So
it's
their
requirement
to
maintain
them.
E
D
I
E
I
A
E
You
Blake,
so
this
is
Commission
consideration,
recommending
resolution
20,
1927
to
City
Council,
approving
the
plat
of
Golf,
View,
Estates,
13th
edition
and
as
you'll
remember.
Last
year
we
approved
the
preliminary
plant,
the
updated
preliminary
plan
for
golf
II
of
states
as
well
as
approved
the
plat
of
golf
vo,
States,
12th
edition
so
now
and
as
the
requirement
of
golf,
the
estates
12th
edition
they
had
to
plat
within
three
years
of
that
approval.
And
so
then
this
this
plat
is
now
taken
care
of
that
requirement.
And
so
then,
in
the
development
agreement.
E
That's
also
attached
with
this
plat
that
spells
out
all
of
the
infrastructure
improvements
that
have
not
been
completed
for
their
pond
area
when
they
looked
at
that
and
the
berm
had
to
be
raised
and
there
had
to
be
an
overflow
structure
installed,
as
well
as
replacing
the
culvert
so
that
work
still,
they
have
raised
the
berm,
but
the
other
work
still
needs
to
be
done
and
there
haven't
just
with
the
season
being
so
wet.
They
haven't
been
able
to
get
in
there,
but
they
do
plan
to
they're
hoping
to
get
that
done
by
this
fall.
E
Otherwise,
all
the
other
public
improvements
have
been
completed.
There
is
a
deed
restriction
over
that
out
lot.
That
has
the
detention
pond
on
it.
There's
a
mix
of
our
two,
which
is
single-family
attached
residential
district
and
our
one
resid
single-family
residential
district
lots
that'll
be
available
for
this
plat.
A
J
A
E
E
We've
had
TIF
seven,
eight,
nine
and
now
ten
come
through
within
the
the
recent
past,
so
for
tact
for
TIF
ten,
it's
a
proposed
mixed-use
of
commercial
and
housing
that
will
that
will
be
created
to
pay
for
the
costs
of
public
infrastructure,
land
acquisition
and
other
expenses
needed
to
facilitate
the
construction
of
a
seven
thousand
nine
hundred
eighty
nine
square
feet
of
retail
commercial
space.
Thirty
nine
one-bedroom
apartments,
forty
five
private
parking
spaces
in
twenty
seven
public
parking
spaces.
C
O
O
There
will
be
a
significant
amount
of
public
improvements
if
you
were
to
drive
by
today
and
look
at
what's
going
on
with
the
cleanup.
The
city
of
Watertown
has
a
historic
tunnel
system
that
runs
through
Broadway
and
you
can
get
a
really
good
view
of
it.
Right
now
and
I
didn't
realize
it,
but
it
does
run
underneath
the
alley
as
well,
so
the
alley
will
have
to
be
improved.
A
lot
of
the
public
utilities
will
have
to
be
improved.
The
sidewalk
that's
getting
beat
up
today
so
and
then
property
behind
as
well.
P
G
We're
also
working
on
some
planter
seating
areas
in
front
of
the
structure,
the
new
project,
so
there's
gonna,
be
some
different
things:
we're
going
to
bring
in
front
of
the
City
Commission
and
Planning
and
Zoning
in
regards
to
that
also
playing
around
with
the
Le
vacation,
more
public,
private
or
public
pedestrian
walkways
things
like
that,
so
so,
there's
quite
a
few
different
tiers
that
we're
gonna
be
working
on
and
already
house.
That's.
I
P
O
A
A
C
I
J
I
I
F
I
C
M
G
P
Think
some
background
of
this.
We,
when
we
first
took
on
downtown
redevelopment
and
trying
to
address
the
housing
issue
that
we're
facing
we've,
been
searching
for
a
developer
to
do
projects
like
this
now,
what
we
hopefully
plan
on
doing
more
that'd
be
a
good
thing,
so
this
isn't
by
any
means
just
a
one-off
type
deal
I
mean
I,
see
if
there's
projects
out
there
that
want
to
come
and
do
these
yeah.
P
So
we
search
for
developers
from
in
town
to
Sioux
Falls
to
Kansas,
City
Missouri
to
Fargo
to
Bismarck,
and
we
just
kept
working
back
and
forth
and
finally,
Jesse
just
said:
we're
gonna.
Do
it
and
put
the
plan
together
so
long,
long
answer
to
a
short
question
as
it's
available
to
anybody
that
wants
to
there
has
to
be
certain
criteria
and
it
can
only
be
used
for
certain
criteria.
Housing
is
one
of
them.
We
see
the
need
for
housing.
Housing
is
economic
development,
vice
versa.
So
that's
why
we
believe
it's
a
good
plan.
C
The
reason
I
ask
these
questions
is
because
there
was
some
comments
on
social
media
and
stuff
and
I
just
wanted
to
clear
it
up.
I,
don't
know
if
anybody,
those
folks
are
gonna,
be
watching
anything
tonight,
but
as
it
gets
out
into
public
the
way
these
things
work,
they're
very
specific
plans,
they're
very
detailed
plans,
it's
very
heavily
statutorily
controlled
and
requires
a
you
know,
somebody
to
step
in
and
say
that
I'm
gonna
spend
a
bunch
of
money.
Yeah.
P
I
mean
it's
a
six
million
dollar
project,
so
the
other
thing
I
think
for
general.
Public
knowledge
is
we're
on
TIF.
Ten
we've
done
four
of
them
in
the
last
six
months,
but
there
are
cities
that
are
on
TIF
like
eighty
and
ninety
four,
a
lot
more
than
we've
done
so
very
new
to
Watertown
and
probably
a
lot
of
commissioners
and
board
members,
but
definitely.
I
We
have
very
very-
we
have
very
few
economic
development
tools
in
our
toolbox.
It's
either
it's
either
tax,
increment
financing
or
discretionary
tax
formulas
and
there's
no
discretion.
The
discretionary
tax
formula
is
being
waived
off
this.
This
property
we're
not
double-barreling
it
right,
right
and
and
the
other
thing
when
it
comes
to
residential
development
and
Tiff's.
We
are
somewhat
limited
to
the
types
of
housing
that
can
be
developed
under
residential
tests
as
well,
and.
P
A
Of
blight
and
social
media
I
did
see
that
I
did
see
that
there
was
another
rendering
in
this
TIF
presentation,
and
my
question
for
mr.
Craig
is:
is
this
representative
of
the
final
design
for
the
building
Brandie?
Maybe
you
could
pull
that
up
the
previous
the
previous
discussion.
We
had
a
illustration
that
was
the
big.
H
G
Generally,
yes,
there's
also,
there
was
actually
a
newer
one
that
was
sent
out.
I
apologize,
you
didn't
get
I
have
to
apologize
to
that.
I
was
late,
so
I'm
extremely
sorry
ran
in
construction,
so
I
apologize
for
that
delay.
But
this
is
a
good
representation
of
kind
of
the
facade.
The
one
thing
that's
gonna
change
is
I'm
still
playing
around
with
the
different
textures
and
exterior
materials.
That's
the
thing:
I
want
to
try
to
get
right
and
I
think
the
other
thing
I'm
running
into
as
I
walk
around
downtown
Watertown.
G
M
P
J
P
I'll
make
statement
for
that.
A
couple
months
ago
we
went
in
front
of
the
County
Commission
and
got
the
discretionary
formula
down
to
0%
for
five
years
to
help
with
projects
like
that
that
may
not
qualify
for
a
TIF
based
on
different
things
and
I
believe
one
of
those
will
for
sure
fall
in
the
0
for
5
years,
if
not
the
other
one
as
well,
I'm,
not
sure
when
they're
going
to
put
that
one
on
so
yeah.
P
G
We've
ran
into
that
and
Fargo
two
or
we
have
the
people
that
you
know
the
developers
that
want
to
develop.
You
know,
sell
to
Fargo
and
things
like
that
on
just
farmland,
it's
a
little
more
complex
when
you
get
to
downtown
talking
about
demo
and
asbestos
and
infill,
and
staging
and
things
like
that
same
thing
with
the
aesthetic
of
the
building
exterior
materials
are
way
more
expensive
flat
roof
versus
a
pitched
roof.
All
of
those
things
out
a
lot
just
just
even
draining
a
flat
roof
versus
gutter
systems
on
a
pitched
roof.
So.
I
F
I
P
F
C
M
C
The
record
this
is
an
incredible
project
and
it's
incredible
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons,
but
it
solves
or
helps
out
a
lot
of
particular
issues.
There's
housing
issues,
there's
downtown
issues,
city
center
type
stuff,
and
it
takes
what
would
have
been
a
hole
in
the
ground
and
makes
a
cool
building
block.
G
C
P
Just
also
for
the
record,
we
have
not
told
anybody,
no
on
a
TIF,
so
it's
not
like
we're
picking
and
choosing
these
tips
we,
whoever
comes
to
us.
We
talked
the
plan,
some
don't
end
up
moving
forward.
We
haven't
had
like
any
of
those
at
heaven,
so
just
just
for
the
record,
it
could
be
a
communication
thing.
Maybe
we
get
a
get
that
out
a
little
more
that
we're
willing
to
partner
up
on
Tiff's
and
make
them
happen
so
yeah.
A
P
Other
thing
that
we
were,
we
had
lunch
with
Terrax
interns
yesterday
and
we
kind
of
gave
him
a
survey
about
different
things
about
Watertown
and
there's
a
big
list
of
what
they've
checked.
Where
they've
been
and
I'd
say,
the
majority
of
them
checked
downtown
compared
to
other.
You
know,
Wellness,
Center
and
other
things,
so
that
younger
demographic
is
certainly
looking
for
something
like
this
and
there's
comments
on
there
about
which
we
had
this,
which
we
have
that
which
we
all
do.
C
E
C
A
F
G
We're
actually
working
on
that
right
now,
so
working
with
bullet
infrastructure
and
something
like
that
there's
it's
kind
of
one
of
those
things
where
whatever
we
start
with
we've
got
to
kind
of
carry
through.
We
can't
just
start
and
stop
it.
So
we're
really
looking
at
that
and
we
got
to
talk
to
the
utility
company
and
things
like
that.
So
I
don't
have
my
apologize
or
not
a
definite
answer
for.
F
G
We
even
we
even
ran
into
the
WDC
a
building.
They
have
that
overhang
where
the
drive-thru
used
to
be
from
used
to
be
a
bank
underneath
there
is
a
basement
and
then
another
one
over
there's
another
full
basement
underneath
that
with
a
concrete
lid
on
them.
So
we
ran
into
that
too,
where
it's
trying
to
demo
it
and
not
tear
down
the
WDC
building
yeah.
It's
it's
been.
It's
been
interesting,
yeah.
G
G
A
E
Okay,
so
if
you
guys
followed
up
on
the
city
council
meeting,
we
had
the
first
hearing
of
the
downtown
down
or
the
DT
downtown
overlay
district,
and
there
was
discussion
on
the
boundary
that
we
chose
and
so
really
what
what
I'm
bringing
this
back
for
discussion
is
so
that
we
can
keep
this
moving
forward.
It'll
have
to
come
back
to
plan
Commission
for
approval
because
they
did
they
kicked
it
back
and
they
want
you
guys
to
be
on
board
with
it
too.
E
E
E
E
I
E
Councilman
Roby
had
brought
up
just
the
with
this
district
here,
how
we
had
some
half
streets
in
the
district
and
then
the
other
half
not,
and
he
just
thought
for
uniformity
that
we
would
want
that
and
I
do
I
do
see
that
and
especially
to,
and
we
had
further
discussion
really.
This
isn't
impacting
downtown
today.
It'll
just
be
for
the
future.
I
A
I
I
E
I
E
I
Guess
my
point,
my
only
thing
it
would
be
is
would
be
I'd
like
to
see
a
land-use
pull
the
land
use
out
of
what's
on
the
ground,
and
we've
got
at
least
a
twenty
two
thousand
twelve
layer
that
you
can
look
at
that.
So
you
can
see
what
the
uses
are
and
then,
if
it
makes
a
natural
identity,
I
don't
like
half
blocks,
but
I.
I
F
E
Yes,
it's
just
this
half
block,
that's
are
chewy
and
then
it
would
be
so
this
this
half
block
here
and
then
this
half
block.
So
potentially,
if
we
I
know
we,
we
didn't
want
to
have
a
bunch
of
different
maps
and
districts
out
there
too.
But
if
that's
something
that
we
can
discuss
internally
to,
if,
if
that
would
be
palatable
to
jog
that
up
and
just
have
it
within
the
c1
district.
I
I
think
it's
not
so
much
just
to
see
one
district
I
think
it's
really
based
on.
What's
the
existing
land
uses
it
around
there
right
now
and
what
the
land
uses
may
or
may
not
transition
to,
and
so,
if
we
could
just
take
a
look
at
what
the
I
mean,
we've
got
our
to
a
staff
or
whatever,
but
there
might
be
commercial
uses
on
some
of
that
that
you're
going
to
want
to
encourage
the
redevelopment
of
those
things
to
I'm,
not
saying
bigger
or
smaller,
is
the
right
one
I.
I
A
I
just
want
to
be
really
careful
because
the
the
language
and
the
way
that
the
ordinance
is
proposed
for
the
downtown
overlay
district
is
really
to
encourage.
You
know:
walkable
retail
space
and
any
uses
that
are
not
retail
space
is
going
to
be
hard
to
fit
within
the
boundaries
that
were
established
so.
E
E
I
I
don't
know
I
can't
compare
to
the
other
one
I
can
visualize
it.
We
just
got
on
our
lapsed
right
now,
so
I
can't
give
you
anything
but
a
knee-jerk,
but
if
you
want
a
knee-jerk
I
like
to
see
two
maps
with
each
existing
boundary
laying
on
top
of
each
other
I'd
like
you
to
come
back
with
us
some
idea
of
what
the
actual
and
uses
our
in
those
areas
that
we're
looking
at,
because
we're
you're
talking
about
making
a
blanket
policy
over
land
mass
that
we
have
no
clue
what's
on
the
ground.
Okay,.