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Plan Commission Meeting - 08-20-2020
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Motion
by
brink,
second,
by
douglas
johnson,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye.
All
those
opposed
same
sign
motion
passes.
Item
number.
Six
is
the
regular
agenda.
Six,
a
is
commission
consideration
of
resolution,
number
2020-38,
adopting
the
boundaries
of
tax
increment
district
number
14
within
the
city
of
watertown,
south
dakota.
B
B
So
I
think
with
that
right
now
it's
we
have
a
couple
different
zoning
districts,
not
that
that
matters
all
too
much.
But
we
have
the
point
right
now
is
zone
c2
and
there
is
the
conditional
uses
that
were
granted
earlier
this
year
for
what
they're,
what
they're
wanting
to
construct.
So
everything
as
far
as
zoning
and
the
board
of
adjustment
conditional
uses
are
all
in
line
and
with
that
I
think
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions
or
if
you
want
to
invite
the
wdc
or
the
applicant.
A
A
We
we're
both
in
agreement
that
there
is
no
conflict
of
interest.
There's
no
monetary
involvement,
there's
nothing
like
that,
but
I
did
want
to
know
to
first
notify
the
council
second
give
them
an
opportunity
to
if,
if
anybody
has
any
issue
with
that,
I
will
gladly
step
down,
but
my
understanding
I
can
make
a
fair
appraisal
and
the
wdc
is
not
the
applicant.
They
are
just
the
people
that
present
it.
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F
B
C
Chris
shilkin
water
tunnel
development
company-
I
think
one
thing
to
point
out
too,
is
tracy
from
our
office-
has
submitted
this
preliminary
plan
to
the
department
of
revenue
state
of
south
dakota,
and
it
does
have
a
classification
as
economic
development.
Much
like
our
last.
However
many
tests,
we've
done
so
there's
no
negative
tax
burden
effect
to
the
school
district
in
the
county
and
also
I'd
like
to
point
out.
C
We've
had
a
couple
different
tif
scenarios
come
through
and
this
one
would
be
funded
by
the
developer
himself,
either
privately
or
through
a
financial
institution,
so
a
little
bit
different
than
some
of
the
downtown
ones.
I've
been
doing
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear,
because
it
is
a
40-some
page
document
and
those
are
probably
the
only
highlights
I
would
point
out
as
slightly
different
and
I'll
take
any
questions
or
turn
it
over
to
anybody
else.
F
C
Yeah,
so
a
couple
of
our
oh
thanks,
todd,
good
question
for
clarification.
A
couple
of
our
past
tips:
either
the
city
or
development
company
has
funded
these
tips
to
promote
in
the
downtown
district.
Only
and
we've
done
some
of
our
own
for
industrial
parks.
I
guess
too,
but
in
some
of
the
past
downtown
ones,
there's
been
a
proposal
to
the
city
where
they
would
use
their
money
to
fund
the
tiff,
and
then
they
would
get
the
tif
revenue
to
pay
off
their
loan
that
they
gave
the
developer.
C
A
I
don't
know
if
I
officially
open
the
public
hearing.
Does
anybody
ever
anybody
else
on
the
board?
Have
any
questions
before
I
do
so
is?
Is
finance
officer
bobsien
today
or
not
I'm
probably
butchering
that,
but
the
only
question
I
always
have-
and
I
think
todd
usually
asks
that
is
how
are
we
in
terms
of
our
percentage
allocation
of
tiff
money
or,
as
I
said,.
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C
Yourself
mike
lawrence,
I
work
with
bob
drake
one
thing
that
about
this
stiff.
You
know
it
is
self-funded.
He
plans
on
going
through
a
financial
institution
to
fund
this
tift.
The
other
thing
is:
is
we've
worked
quite
a
bit
extensively
with
utilities?
This
tif
makes
everything
go
in
at
once,
one
of
the
things
that
this
project
has
had
through
its
lifetime
is
it's
been
in
stages
and
it
one
thing
gets
done
and
then
the
next
thing
gets
done,
and
then
it
causes
issue
with
the
next
thing
that.
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C
G
Bob
drake
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
that
tif
money
allows
this
project
to
do
is
to
move
forward
quicker.
So
if
you
have
the
road,
you
have
access
to
do
more
things.
For
example,
we
have
a
hotel
looking
at
coming
in
well,
if
we
have
the
road
and
we
have
all
the
infrastructure
and
for
that
it
draws
that
hotel
it'll
draw,
hopefully
an
entertainment
deal
that
the
hotel
wants
to
bring
in
or
partner
up
with
we're
hoping
that's
gonna.
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Also
we're
gonna
have
the
slips
and
you'll
have
all
that
stuff
happen.
A
lot
quicker
pace,
otherwise
it
it
extends
it
out
for
a
number
of
years
and-
and
it
just
makes
it
a
lot
easier
if
we
can
do
it
up
front,
both
from
a
utility
standpoint
from
a
road
standpoint
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint,
and
it
doesn't
really
cost
the
city,
it's
you
know,
so
any
questions
from
okay.
Thank
you.
D
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C
A
Thank
you.
I
couldn't
remember
the
exact
language
correct.
Maybe
I
stole
your
statute
book.
It
might
be
on
my
desk
yeah.
So
when,
when
we
talk
about
that
this,
this
isn't
the
end-all
be-all
of
it,
but
we
are
recommending
the
plan
and
identifying
the
boundaries
is
essentially
our
job.
Here,
that's
what
we
do
and
then
do
some
of
the
regular
questions.
These
are
a
very
important
part
of
what
we
do
as
a
plant
commission.
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So
I
like
to
I
don't
like
them
to
just
be
silent
when
we,
when
we
approve
them,
because
it
it's
a
pretty
big
deal
but
seems
like
everyone's
done,
their
due
diligence
we're
still
well
within
our
range
of
our
allowed
or
allotted
amount
by
statute.
I
believe
that
percentage
amount
is
a
statutory
control.
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F
We
have
very
few
tools
in
the
economic
toolbox,
as
mr
shulkin
will
probably
tell
you
to
help
incentivize
development
across
the
state
of
south
dakota
and
within
the
city
of
watertown
and
and
principally
because
this
large
tif
is
also
going
to
be
self-funded.
I
think
it's
just
for
me.
It's
a
no-brainer.
G
B
B
B
Well,
right
now,
I
think
he's
trying
to
phase
it
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
developer
either,
but
his
farm
exists
there.
So
I
think
phasing
it
out,
okay
and
taking
it
in
little
by
little.
He
does
have
somebody
that
is
wanting
to
develop
this
parcel
that
he's
bringing
in
right
now.
So
I
I
believe,
that's
what
prompted
bringing
this
forward
and
then
also
making
this
connection,
which
is
shown
in
the
major
street
plan
as
being
warranted.
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B
Yep
they
have
submitted.
The
preliminary
plan
will
be
coming
to
you
guys
for
what
they
envisioned
for
this
entire
area
eventually,
and
then
also.
But
this
is
consistent
with
what
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan
shows
and
then
they
will
they've
submitted
construction
plans
and
have
actually
begun
installation.
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J
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B
Right
now,
the
properties
are
zoned,
r1,
single
family,
residential
district
and
pud,
planned
unit
development,
and
what
they're
proposing
is
some
of
this
area
will
be
from
the
pud
it'll,
be
be
brought
back
to
the
r1
single
family
district
and
then
also
rezoned
to
the
cl
lake
commercial
district,
and
then
some
of
the
r1
area
will
be
rezoned
to
the
cl
lake
commercial
district.
The
pudu
is
the
pud
is
going
away
all
together.
B
So
then,
in
this
area
there
will
only
be
r1
and
cl
zoning
designations
and
then
actually
on
this
map
that
I
provided
so
that
pink,
that
will
be
what
will
be
zoned
cl.
And
then
this
pink
with
the
yellow
hatch
is
what
will
be
brought
back
to
r1,
and
so
then
that
will
all
remain
as
the
golf
course
and
then
this
will
be
developed.
B
F
B
K
K
E
E
B
B
E
K
One
and
this
this
is
a
an
earlier
iteration
just
so
we're
clear
that
the
change
that's
been
made
is
the
far
west
building
you
see,
there's
in
effect,
dual
bays,
that's
split
and
the
westerly
bay
is
moved
and
so
that
the
doors
face
in
instead
of
out,
and
so
that,
then
there
would
be
the
residential
siding
requirement
on
the
back
side.
So
the
doors
would
be
obscured.
K
F
I
think
I'm
just
going
to
caution,
I
think
we're
getting
into
the
weeds
of
what
a
subsequent
request
may
or
may
not
be
as
opposed
to
the
intent
of
the
request
as
to
whether
or
not
we
just
think
this
is
an
appropriate
place
for
cl
and
r1
zoning.
The
request
we
understand
what
possibly
could
go
there,
but
there's
nothing
beholding,
mr
foley,
to
do
what
he's
what
he's
intending
to
do.
F
A
It
thank
you
mr
case,
and
I
appreciate
that
comment.
My
only
concern
is
that
occasionally
we
get
by
increment
much
farther
than
we
would
go
normally
in
one
jump,
so
it
does
like.
I
do
like
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
look
forward
and
I
think
mr
foley
has
provided
us
with
that,
but
keeping
in
mind
mr
case's
comments,
I
would
return
us
to
the
question
at
hand,
which
is
one
of
zoning.
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Hi,
my
name
is
jim
duggan,
I'm
a
landowner
and
adjacent
to
this
property.
First
of
all,
I
make
a
living
talking
to
people,
I'm
all
nervous
talking
to
you
guys,
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
so
bear
with
me.
Okay.
First
of
all,
my
wife,
jane,
is
with
me,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
give
you
an
opinion
or
to
share
some
concerns
that
we
have
if,
in
fact,
this
this
does
get
passed.
L
There's
there
are
alternatives
and
I've
got
three
bullet
points
to
hit
on,
and
I've
got
a
fourth
one
which
would
be
an
alternative
to
this
plan.
Four
prairie
wings
golf
course
and
probably
wouldn't
have
anything
to
do
with
with
vince,
but
it
would
certainly
solve
the
problem
for
the
golf
course
anyway.
L
I
own
636,
I
own
646,
south
lake
drive,
I
also
own
643,
softly
drive,
which
is
the
across
the
street
property.
That's
it
right
there.
You
run
that's
my
garage
okay,
seven
years
ago
we
built
that
garage
and
it
was
all
r1
and
we
had
to
meet
a
whole
bunch
of
different
things
and
we
were
able
to
get
a
building
permit
under
a
bunch
of
qualifications
we
had
to
bring
in
sewer
and
water.
B
L
There
it
is
okay,
oh
wonderful!
Aren't
you
clever
anyway?
What
what
so,
my
four
and
a
half
feet
rise
and
on
the
westerly
edge
of
my
property?
I
had
to
put
that
retaining
wall
to
hold
the
whole
earth
back
and
there's,
as
you
can
see,
a
pretty
dramatic
slope
on
the
south
edge
of
my
property
heading
towards
what
I
refer
to
as
a
sloop.
L
Now
I
we
can't
even
properly
mow
that
all
the
way
back,
because
we
run
into
water
with
the
water
table
being
as
high
as
it
is
right
now,
so
I've
got
a
concern
there.
The
again
selfishly
we
just
don't
want
to
look
at
it.
That's
that
those
trees
would
be
in
the
I
suspect,
according
to
the
plan,
that
vince
was
just
showing
us
a
minute
ago,
that
would
be
the
westerly
northwesterly
corner
of
the
storage
facilities.
Okay,
now.
L
There
you
go
yep,
that's
me
at
643,
okay,
now,
the
westerly
side
of
643
is
a
40-foot
piece
of
property.
That
vince
was
talking
about,
that.
That
would
be
attached
to
his
three
r1
lots
that
we
talked
about
okay,
so
we
had
to
bring
in
a
ton
of
fill
just
so
I
could
get
my
garage
built.
This
property
is
a
lot
bigger
than
that
and
there's
a
ton
of
fill
that's
going
to
have
to
come
in
there,
and
I
believe
that
fema's
even
raised
it
higher
than
it
was
from
seven
years
ago.
L
L
Now,
if
you're
going
to
take
a
retention
pond
and
move
that
that
that
fill
or
dirt,
whatever
it
is
up
into
this
area,
where
they're
going
to
build
these
storage
units,
it
seems
to
me
that
that
water's
got
to
go
somewhere
and
I
think
that's
what's
going
to
be
created
is
a
push
and,
as
you
can
see
from
my
little
picture
in
my
house,
I
think
that
water's
going
to
start
coming
towards
our
properties.
Everybody
along
salt
lake
drive
on
the
south
side
of
salt
lake
drive,
that's
got
obvious
concern
and
you
know.
L
L
If
this
is
approved
by
you,
people,
please
don't
allow
access
to
the
r1
area,
which
at
one
time
was
three
lots.
Now
it's
one
big
lot.
This
conversation
about
three
twin
homes
to
come
down
a
40
foot
wide
trail
or
driveway,
because
it
can't
be
a
road.
It's
only
40
feet.
So
at
the
end
of
that
would
have
to
be
a
cul-de-sac
for
a
turnaround
and
cul-de-sacs
have
problems
with
fire
departments.
They
have
problems
with
utilities.
They
have
problems
with
gas
with
garbage
being
picked
up.
They
have
problems
with
with
mail
being
delivered.
L
L
J
J
J
J
One
is
about
approximately
100
acres
east
of
city
park
and
onto
on
the
south
side
of
highway
20
by
the
airport
that
had
a
development
proposed
on
it,
similar
to
this
with
residential
property.
The
city
purchased
that,
with
the
explicit
intent
to
prevent
fill
development,
the
other
property
that
the
city
purchased
is
the
third
avenue
ponds
where
all
the
kids
like
to
fish.
Now
that
also
had
a
development
proposed
on
it.
J
J
This
particular
area
is
all
sandy
soils
underneath
of
it.
Basically,
the
way
lake
compescu
works
is
water
comes
in
the
big
sioux
river,
but
it
also
comes
up
from
below.
We
have
a
huge
groundwater
aquifer
water
rises
and
lowers
with
the
elevation
of
the
lake
back
after
the
1997
flood
in
the
2001
flood.
I
believe
you
had
pumps
with
pipes
with
portable
hoses
going
across
south
lake
drive
pumping
water
from
this
general
area
back
into
the
lake,
so
that
the
golf
course
could
improve
it.
J
So
the
primary
reason
I'm
here
is
to
say
this
is
bad
messaging,
really
bad
messaging
to
any
landowner
north
of
watertown,
who
is,
is
watching
the
city.
You
know
we
talk
about
building
a
dam
and
flooding,
6,
000
acres
of
land,
north
of
town
and,
at
the
same
time,
we're
going
to
come
in
and
we're
going
to
fill
in
the
natural
flood
plain
of
lake
compesca
right
on
the
shore.
J
A
K
All
those
all
their
points
are
well
taken,
and
I
certainly
understand
where
they're
coming
from
just,
but
I
do
want
to
rebut
one
thing
that
jim
made
comment
about
twin
view:
twin
homes,
that
type
of
stuff
my
comments
to
jim
were
just
what
could
be
done
in
the
future.
I
don't
know
patty
and
I
agreed
to
keep
that
area
r1
and
would
only
go
on
development
with
jim
and
jane's
ascent.
So
when
there's
conversation
about
twin
homes,
it's
just
what?
If,
in
the
future,
we've
got
no
plan
for
twin
homes,.
B
K
A
F
F
So
I'm
saying
that
there
are
mr
foley
has
the
option
to
to
to
use
the
zoning
and
develop
it
in
some
manner,
maybe
not
consistent
with
what
his
proposal
is.
But
if
I
think
there's
been
some
question
or
testimony
of
whether
or
not
you
know
we
would
he
couldn't
do
anything,
he
still
has
the
options
to
do
things
am
I
am.
I
misreading
that.
F
C
E
B
You
and
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
some
points
too,
just
as
far
as
the
floodplain
goes
beans
that
it
is
within
the
hundred
year
floodplain.
We
actually,
you
know,
be,
and
these
lots
are
planted
so,
no
matter
what
even
if
they
were
built
on
with
single
family
homes,
they
would
have
to
be.
There
would
have
to
be
phil
brought
in
to
meet
our
floodplain
regulations.
B
So
at
one
point
it
was
determined
that
they
were
okay
to
be
developed
and
then
also
you
can
see
with
all
of
the
houses
along
south
lake
drive
are
within
the
floodplain,
the
100-year
floodplain,
it's
not
within
a
flood
wave
floodways.
You
can't
develop
in
or
a
jurisdictional
wetland
which
this
is
not,
and
we
are.
The
corps
is
working
on
this
as
well
to
make
sure
that
everything
that
they're
proposing
is
good
to
go.
A
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress
since
1984
haven't
we,
I
mean
in
terms
of
our
thought
process
and
how
we
I
mean
that
that's
my
devil's
advocate
position
on
that
is
that
this
is,
I
wasn't
even
alive
in
1984
yeah.
I
know
you
were.
You
were
just
maybe
just
starting
law
school.
I
wasn't
even
a
twinkle
in
anybody's
eye.
F
Well,
eileen.
That
was
the
point
I
was
trying
to
get
at
the
very
beginning.
If
this
was
a
virgin
proposal,
knowing
what
we
know,
I
think
we
maybe
would
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
cautious,
but
I
think
the
city
has
bestowed
some
development
rights
on
this
property,
albeit
it
was
two
years
after
I
graduated
from
high
school
or
dating
people.
It
seems
it
seems
to
me
that
you
know
something's
going
to
happen
on
this
property.
A
B
F
F
B
Yep,
so
we
have
that
open
space
requirement
of
50
of
the
lot
area
or
the
lot
coverage
that
is
going
to
counsel
actually
to
be
changed
from
what
we
had
previously
was
impervious
areas,
and
then
we
do
still
have
other
design
standards
where
any
exterior
walls
that
are
facing
a
residentially
zoned
district
do
have
to
follow
the
materials
of
residential
structures.
So
they
have
to
look.
F
B
Okay
for
outside
for
screening,
storage
of
excess
inventory
shall
be
screened
by
means
of
an
opaque
fence,
plant
material
wall
or
earth
berms
and
where
groupings
of
conifers
and
deciduous
shade
trees
are
utilized
for
screening.
In
order
to
provide
for
year-round
screening
and
minimum
50
of
the
trees
shall
be
coniferous.
B
So
nothing
landscaping.
Screening
devices,
including
fences,
are
allowed
to
be
placed
in
the
transitional
yard
and
then
the
transitional
yard
is
the
15
foot
of
grass
area
that
has
to
remain
so.
If
people
have
parking
lots
in
any
other
district,
you
can
go
up
to
five
foot
of
the
property
line
and
in
the
cl
district
we
increase
that
to
15
feet
just
to
provide
more
of
a
setback.
G
B
A
F
E
And
this
may
be
getting
way
ahead
of
ourselves,
but
in
the
event
that
the
buildings
are,
you
know
he
we
grant
this
and
and
things
move
forward
as
he
brings
his
phil
in.
So
if,
if
mr
dugan's
and
other
people's
lots,
you
know
slope
down,
as
he
said,
how
does
he
has
to?
He
cannot
push
water
onto
the
neighbor
correct
right.
E
B
Right,
that's
correct
and
that's
a
fine
point
to
bring
up
that
when
they
would
submit
their
commercial
site
plan
application
for
their
building
permit.
We
would
look
at
their
grading
plan
and
make
sure
that
they
were
accommodating
for
any
drainage
that
they
were
increasing
or
contributing
to,
and
then
also
that
any
any
I
mean
they
would
improve
the
drainage
in
that
area.
Overall
and
also
storage
units
are
non-residential,
so
they
don't
have
to
bring
in
as
much
fill
as
they
would
have
to.
B
If
it
were
a
home,
a
residential
structure,
they
can
wet
floodproof
storage
units
so
that
they
could
build
them
at
the
grade.
There
is
today,
so
it's
less
filled
than
what
would
be
required
for
a
house,
but
if
they
want,
but
if
they
want
to
bring
in
the
fill
too,
they
can
but
there's
just
more
options
that
way
all
things
that
we
would
look
at
at
the
time
of
their
application.
G
B
Potentially
or
they
would
just
what
flood
proof
up
to
the
foot
above
the
base,
flood
elevation
and
then
have
no
any
utilities
that
they
had
would
also
have
to
be
above
that
free
board
elevation,
but
because
so
they
can
have
like
vents.
Where
a
house,
you
can't
you
have
to
elevate
it.
But
if
you
have
a
crawl
space,
you
still
have
to
have
vents,
there's
just
a
lot
of
different
factors,
but
this
that
is
an
option
for
the
storage
shops
means
that
they
are
considered
non-residential.
E
B
And
that
would
be
fine.
The
main
thing
about
the
vents
would
be
for
the
hydrostatic
pressure.
So
if
the
flood
event
happened
to
the
100
year
event
to
that
elevation
that
it
would
be
pushing
up
against
the
walls,
so
it
would
be
able
to
equalize
the
pressure
with
the
vents
on.
So
the
vents
are,
you
know
like
down
by
the
foundation
and
then
so
the
water
would
it
would
equalize
hydrostatic
pressure.
H
H
E
G
I
just
believe
there's
a
finite
amount
of
land
around
our
lake,
we're
trying
to
provide
as
much
accessibility
for
people
to
enjoy
the
lake
as
possible.
I
don't
believe
this
is
an
appropriate
location
for
this.
These
kinds
of
docks,
I
think
the
way
it's
currently
zoned
are
one
residential
and
pud.
If
it
continues
to
stay.
That
way
is,
is
the
appropriate
zoning
for
this
particular
piece
of
property.
F
This
is
case.
I
think
this
is
a
very
tough
one.
I
think
you
know
we
are
somewhat
predisposed
to
accept
development
out
here.
I
think
the
land
use
plan
that's
been
adopted
does
show
this
as
an
area
for
development
and
also
we
have
taken
the
opportunity
to
identify
areas
within
a
certain
boundary
of
the
lake
to
be
eligible
for
cl
zoning,
and
while
this
might
not
be
a
perfect
fit
for
everything,
I
think
it
meets
those
minimum
tests
basically
laid
out
in
previous
policy.
D
Brandy
with
the
the
re-zone
going
through
a
few
like
through
the
middle
of
lots,
I'm
looking
at
the
current
lot
layout.
Is
there
something
that
absolutely
requires
that
it
gets
re-platted
or
if
this
rezone
passes,
could
they
just
not
replied
it
and
then
there's
still
all
these
plotted
lots
that
are
how
they
currently
are.
B
D
G
I
E
B
D
B
D
B
A
A
B
Perfect,
thank
you
liam.
So
this
joel
simpson
is
the
owner
of
this
property,
which
is
along
14th,
avenue,
southeast
and
again
I'll
zoom
over
there.
Oh,
I
didn't.
I
didn't
bookmark
that
one
so
currently
the
property
is
zoned,
i1,
light
industrial
and
he
is
proposing
to
or
petitioning
to
rezone
it
to
c3
highway
commercial
district.
The
reason
for
that
is
that
he
would
like
to
develop
a
campground
for
this
area.
For
I
mean,
if
you
get
out
of
town
workers,
what
not
more
so
would
be
for
the
workforce
campground.
B
I
believe,
and
proximity
wise
close
to
highway
81.
It
is
this
property
right
here.
This
property
is
also
within
the
flood
plain
making
it,
and
there
is
a
drainage
way
going
through
the
middle
of
it.
So
developing
it
is
challenging
where
campgrounds
are
temporary
and
would
would
be
some
way
to
develop
it.
It
is
surrounding
the
zoning.
Districts
are
also
they're
all
i1,
and
then
there
is
some
c3
up
to
the
northwest
or
the
northeast,
I'm
sorry.
F
B
We
like
to
avoid
it,
but
it
does
meet
the
minimum
lot
requirements
for
the
c3
district.
There
are
other
zoning
designations
that
we
do
have
a
a
larger
minimum
so
like.
If
you
want
to
rezone
to
a
pud,
you
have
to
have
or
an
rg
you
have
to
have
at
least
one
acre.
If
you
want
to
do
cl,
you
have
to
have
three
acres,
but
there
are
things
like
that
where
you
have
to
have
a
larger
requirement,
but
there's
nothing
really
specifying.
B
G
B
B
A
I
The
lot
next
to
that
is
this
is
joel
stimson
the
lot
neck.
It's
all
one
lot
currently
and
what
I'm
hoping
to
do
is
rezone
the
portion
that
we're
here
for
today,
I'd
like
to
build
some
type
of
a
small
rv
park
back
there,
because,
as
brandy
stated,
there's
not
a
lot,
I
can
do
on
that
land
and
then
next
year
I
would
actually
rezone
the
fenced
in
portion,
get
clean
that
all
up
and
then
put
in
approximately
another
20
to
25
spots.
I
I
I
B
And
we
do
have
limitations
for
our
actual
design
standards
for
campgrounds,
so
if
he
were,
if
this
was
rezoned
and
he
was
going
to
utilize
the
property
as
this,
he
would
need
a
conditional
use
for
a
campground
as
well.
So
it
would
come
back
to
the
board
of
adjustment
to
get
that
conditional
use.
This
is
the
first
step,
so
that's
where
conditions
could
be
looked
at.
A
A
B
F
B
B
You
know
if
there
was
if
the,
if
the
curb
and
gutter
and
the
paved
street
were
extended,
what
would
be
wrong
with
a
clinic
or
a
parking
lot
or
a
wreck
facility
motor
vehicle
sales
motel
hotel?
It
really
would
come
down
to
the
best
use
for
the
land.
Now,
a
lot
of
those
lots
would
probably
want
to
be
adjacent
to
the
highway
instead
of
set
back.
So
you
know,
the
use
of
this
property
is
kind
of
dictated
by
that,
as.
A
A
G
This
is
ford
when
I
hear
the
term
campground.
The
intent
may
be
construction
workers,
but
campground
equates
to
families
and
families
equates
to
children.
Construction
workers
with
an
rv
do
often
or
can
come
with
a
family.
I
just
don't
see
this
as
a
place
where
a
campground
with
potential
for
children
is
a
very
good
idea.
E
I
don't
think
that
that
is
a
place
that
they
would
probably
go.
I
think
they're
probably
going
to
be
the
exactly
what
mr
stimson
is
is
thinking
diane.
I
I,
I
think
your
families
probably
are
not
going
to
stay
there
unless
it
was
just
an
exhausted
night
and
they
hook
up,
but
I
don't
see
them.
You
know
setting
up
for
a
week
or
anything
like
that
in
that
particular
location
myself.
But
is
there
any
way
you
can?
E
A
A
A
D
I
think
if
we
do
consider
rezoning
it,
we
should
bring
the
whole
parcel
in.
I
would
hate
to
to
leave
off
that
other
parcel,
with
the
intent
of
doing
it
later
when
steel
prices
improve,
but
if
they
don't
improve
for
five
or
ten
years,
I
would
hate
to
have
have
that
adjacent
to
a
commercial
property
for
that
long
of
time.
So
if
we
do
rezone
it,
I
think
we
should
rezone
the
whole
property
and-
and
we
could,
you
know,
give
them
two
years
to
get
the
cars
out
of
there
or
something.
F
Yeah,
I
guess
I
I
don't
have
the
problem
with
the
parking
lot.
I
just
have
the
I
just
I
just
scanned
the
entire
city
and
and
no
industrial
zone.
Do
we
have
a
pimple
of
c3
zoning?
It's
not
something!
We've
done
in
the
past,
I'm
not
sure
it's
the
appropriate
thing
to
do.
I've,
I'm
professionally
been
a
first
to
spot
zoning,
my
entire
professional
career-
and
that's
yes,
as.
A
I
tend
to
echo
mr
cases
concerns
here.
It
looks
to
me
like
if
we
want
to
do
this,
we
should
look
at
the
parcel
to
the
north
to
the
east,
the
second
to
the
east
and
then
that
little
one
appears
to
be
a
sliver
one,
so
we
could
connect
it
with
a
straight
face
to
c3.
So
you
know-
and
perhaps
even
all
the
way
I
don't
know,
there's
a
bunch
of
tanks
and
stuff.
B
I
think
hotter
deer,
just
in
talking
with
joel.
I
know
that
I'll,
I'm
just
gonna
relay
this
information
since
the
public
hearing
was
closed,
but
he
is
fine.
He's
not
gonna
move
these
cars
he's
fine
with
getting
rid
of
them
as
long
as
if
and
if
we
did
want
to
include
this
parcel
as
well,
then
we
would
just
we
would
come
up
with
some
time
frame
of
when
the
cars
had
to
go
away
so
yeah.
B
He
is
within
the
hundred
year
floodplain,
which-
and
then
this
is
like
this
is
an
actual
drainage
way.
It's
not
a
flood
wave,
but
there
is
that
that's
an
important
part
of
conveying
the
drainage
to
the
south
from
highway
212.,
so
it
does
have
its
difficulties
in
in
how
it
would
be
developed.
So
the
campground
is
kind
of
as
a
semi-permanent
use
of
the
of
the.
A
A
F
B
F
A
D
I
think
you
know
when
we
talk
about
spot
zoning.
I
think
it
would
be
really
good
if
we
had
had
a
little
bit
more
in
our
ordinance
about
what
is
considered
a
spot
zone.
You
know,
like
brandy
mentioned,
we
have
a
one
acre
requirement
for
the
rg
three
acre
for
the
business
park
and
another
one.
I
believe,
five
acres
for
i2
or
something
pods
and
stuff
puds.
K
D
H
D
H
So
I
think
that
you
know
if,
if
we're
ever
contended
on
whether
this
were
a
spot
zoning
issue,
what
would
typically
be
looked
at
by
those
investigating
that
that
accusation
is
was
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan
followed?
Is
the
zoning
that
the
the
smaller
area
was
rezoned
to
somewhat
compatible
with
the
surrounding
zoning
district?
H
H
H
H
H
G
I'm
not
aware
of
any
particular
statutes
on
this,
but
I'd
probably
defer
that
to
the
city
attorney
for
further
review.
It
is,
I
agree
with
mr
ivana
it's
sort
of
on
the
line
of
of.
Could
it
one
could
argue
it
would
be
spot,
so
anyone
could
also
argue
that
it
would
not
be
by
meeting
the
minimum
size
requirements.
G
A
C
C
B
B
B
C
A
I
don't
know
if
you're
gathering,
what's
going
on
here,
but
you're
at
risk
of
losing
the
motion
and
then
being
barred
for
six
months
to
come
back
and
bring
a
new
motion.
If
you
withdraw
that,
perhaps
that
it
could
be
considered
as
a
whole,
and
maybe
you
would
have
better
odds,
that's
what
the
discussion
is.
If
you
haven't
gathered
that
yes.
B
A
A
A
A
A
B
B
Yes,
thank
you
liam.
So
this
is
commission
consideration
of
resolution
number
2020-46
approving
the
plot
of
compesca
dunes
third
subdivision
to
the
municipality
of
watertown
in
the
county
of
coddington,
so
this
area,
kenpesky
dunes,
we're
familiar
with
it.
We've
had
it
come
forward
for
the
preliminary
plan
approval
the
rezone
of
that
south
eastern
corner
and
then
also
the
board
of
adjustment
granted
the
conditional
use
for
storage
units
and
then
also
granted
nope.
Then
we
reheard
it
and
you
took
some
aesthetic
requirements
away
for
the
conditional
use
as
conditions.
B
B
Here's
the
plot
that
they're
proposing.
Currently
it
is
all
lot
a
of
compesca
dunes,
second
edition
subdivision
and
then
it's
lot.
One
block
two
of
compesca
dunes,
second
subdivision
as
well,
is
the
existing
detention
pond.
So
in
the
preliminary
plan,
this
detention
pond
was
proposed
to
be
improved
in
the
in
the
first
phase
of
the
development
of
the
preliminary
plan
that
was
approved.
So
that's
why
they
are
including
and
planning
this.
B
They
have
worked
with
the
land
owners
of
detention
outlet
a
or
what
the
existing
pond
is,
which
is
dlt
development
and
then
paul
and
lori
carlson
own
all
of
lot
a
which
is
now
shown
to
be
outlet
x
and
lot
one
and
then
lot.
One
is
where
they
plan
on
developing
the
storage
units,
and
then
we
in
the
development
agreement.
B
We
explain
how
this
pond
will
be
improved,
the
cattails
will
be
removed,
and
then
the
drainage
should
be
conveyed
will
be
conveyed
to
the
pond
to
alleviate
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
of
the
wetland
area
and
then,
obviously,
when
fill
is
placed
on
this
lot
to
be
developed,
we'll
make
sure
that
the
water
being
displaced
from
there
is
not
causing
any
drainage
issues
for
adjacent
land
owners
and
will
be
accommodated
through
the
the
building
permit
approval
and
the
construction
plans.
For
this
pond.
D
B
For
that
development
we
will
do
a
waiver
of
right
to
protest
because
it
doesn't
connect
to
anything
at
this
point
and
then,
if
there's
a
wreck
trail,
that's
proposed
on
this
on
the
north
side
of
golf
course
road.
So
if
that
would
come
through,
then
they
would
be
susceptible
for
an
assessment
for
that.
But
then
right
now
we
were
asking
for
the
extension
of
the
sidewalk
along
the
detention
pond,
because
it's
in
it's
within
a
residential
district,
so
then
it'll
be
turned
over
to
the
city.
B
So
we
want
all
of
those
requirements
to
be
completed
before
we
would
take
it
over
so
that
once
so,
if
this
would
all
connect
and
develop
because
there's
going
to
be
a
street
here,
that's
shown
in
the
prelim
plan.
So
we
at
this
point.
You
know
there
would
be
no
connectivity,
so
we
would
just
do
the
way
verb
right
to
protest,
and
then
we
have
the
rec
trail
on
the
east
side
of
33rd
street
northwest.
H
Could
be
administered
or
not?
You
know
pending
the
commission's
request
here
in
this
this
review
of
this
plan,
but
the
logic
that
brandy
walked
through
is
where
we
were
looking
at
it
from
a
staffing
standpoint,
but
if
the
planning
commission
had
you
know,
desires
to
see
that
sidewalk
installed,
these
are
the
things
that
we
would
discuss
as
well
at
the
at
the
council
level,
with
the
platinum
development
agreement
approval
as
they
formally
approve
the
development
agreement.
H
If
the
way
the
sidewalk
is
identified
in
that
development
agreement
isn't
pleasing
to
the
council,
they
of
course
could
make
amendments
to
that
as
well.
So
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is,
commissioner
rank?
If
you
wanted
to
make
a
recommendation
of
sidewalk
being
included
in
that
development
agreement,
we
can
definitely
carry
that
forward
to
the
council
level
too.
D
B
It
is,
it
is
typical,
too,
for
our
development
agreements
when
they
are
planning
the
developer,
can
defer
it
to
the
property
owner
and
then,
at
that
time,
when
they
would
apply
for
this
building
permit
is
when
we
would
include
any
of
the
public
infrastructure
that
hasn't
been
improved,
so
that
curb
and
gutter
wreck
trail
sidewalk.
All
of
that
would
be
included
not
saying
that
would
ever
happen,
but
just
so
that
we're
not
relieving
the
city's
infrastructure
improvements
to
be
completed.
B
A
B
A
H
Yeah,
mr
chairman,
if
I
could
take
a
brief
moment
to
introduce
a
new
staff
member
here
at
the
city,
it
was
mitch-
and
I
believe
at
our
last
meeting-
or
maybe
the
meeting
prior
to
that
we
have
a
new
community
development
manager
with
us.
Her
name
is
stacy
bungard
and
she
joins
us
with
approximately
13
years
of
planning
and
zoning
administration
experience,
and
she
has
her
bachelor's
degree
in
economics
and
also
a
bachelor's
in
political
science
and
also
a
master's
degree
in
public
administration.
H
H
I'd
also
like
to
briefly
describe
you
know
the
changes
we
made
in
staffing
within
public
works.
We
had
the
building
services
division
and
the
engineering
division,
which
we
we
still
do,
have
an
engineering
division,
but
the
urban
planner
was
housed
under
the
city,
engineer,
separately
or
autonomously
from
the
planning
or
excuse
me,
the
zoning
and
building
function
that
was
housed
under
the
building
official.
H
All
underneath
public
works
still
so
the
whole
goal
there
being
to
get
planning
and
zoning
back
together
under
the
same
one
manager
underneath
the
public
works
director.
And
so
that's
what
we've
done
with
that
restructuring
and
we're
greatly
looking
forward
to
continuing
to
get
stacy
acclimated
with
city
watertown.
H
Our
zoning
regulations,
our
subdivision
regulations
and
working
closely
with
brandy
as
the
urban
planner
and
the
knowledge
that
brandy's
obtained
over
the
last
several
years
with
the
city
and
plugging
that
in
and
and
continuing
to
gain
efficiencies
and
our
processes
and
procedures
and
help
address
some
of
the
the
known
issues
and
concerns
that
we've
heard
from
developers
and
contractors
over
the
years
and
so
building
a
strong
team
and
ver
very
greatly.
Looking
forward
to
seeing
the
successes
that
we
can,
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
with
this
new
team.
So.