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Plan Commission Meeting - 05-21-2020
C
D
A
A
C
B
So
this
is
Commission
consideration
of
resolution
number
2020
24,
amending
the
zoning
map
of
the
city
of
Watertown
for
a
portion
of
lot,
a
campus
Kaduna
second
subdivision
from
r1
single-family
residential
district
to
our
three
multi-family
residential
district.
So
here
you'll
see,
we
previously
approved
the
preliminary
plan
for
this
area
at
the
April
23rd
meeting,
if
you
guys
recall,
and
so
now,
they're
working
on
their
first
phase-
and
this
is
part
of
that,
where
they're
rezoning
it
to
the
approved
zoning
of
our
three
that
we
approved
for
the
prelim
plan.
B
A
A
B
F
B
But
if
you
look
at
you
know,
even
when,
without
looking
at
the
use
as
the
zone,
the
zoning
itself,
it
is
on
the
corner
of
two
collector
streets,
where
it
does
create
a
nice
transition
zone
and
buffer
between
the
r-1
Lots.
If
it
would
be
an
apartment,
complex
or
storage
units,
whatever
it
could
be
in
the
r3
that
it
does
provide
the
transitional
zoning
that
we
would
like
and.
A
C
F
B
Difficult
thing
is
that
by
well
actually,
so
we
send
the
certified
mailings
out
to
adjacent
property
owners
within
250
feet
of
the
area
which
then
you
actually
don't
touch
the
neighbors.
And
so
that's
that's
the
difficult
thing
of
who's
getting
the
notice,
so
hopefully
just
by
word-of-mouth
that
if
they
do
have
concerns
that
they're
paying
attention
to
the
agendas
and
whatnot,
it
is
unfortunate.
G
For
conditional
use,
they
more
of
the
neighbors
will
get
notified
because
he'll
still
own
the
you'll
still
own
the
entire
area
there,
and
so
by
legal
description.
They
will
get
notified,
I
believe
so.
I
guess
I'm
planning
at
this
moment
that
some
of
those
neighbors
up
there
will
get
notified
as
being
adjacent
to
the
property.
So
that
should
take
care
of
them.
I
think
is.
C
B
C
F
A
That
I
think
that
was
the
discussion
here,
that
those
Lots
that
are
a
buddy
in
the
existing
homes
continue
to
be
are
one
Lots,
so
that
there's
the
house
that's
next
to
them.
That's
currently
bare
ground
is
going
to
develop
as
an
r1
and
then
with
this
preliminary
plan.
Now
anybody
that
buys
a
lot
going
forward
is
fully
aware
of
what
Neri
plan,
as
of
today
shows
including
the
storage
Lots,
the
r3,
the
r2
development.
B
That
when
they
come
in
for
the
conditional
use,
that
can
be
a
condition
that
you
guys
would
put
on
them
at
that
time.
Otherwise,
if
the
development,
if
the
housing
would
come,
I
mean
it's
all
r3,
so
it's
it
could
be
single-family
housing.
It
could
be
anything
that's
allowed
by
conditional
use
or
just
as
a
permitted
use
in
the
r3
zone.
E
B
You're,
if
you're
a
budding
residential
you
have
to
screen
your
driveway
or
I,
mean
your
parking
parking
yeah,
but
not
not
the
entire
property,
and
that
would
be
more
so
to
dissipate
any
light
pollution
that
headlights
would
create
in
the
dark
and
whatnot.
So
it's
not
disruptive
to
adjacent
land.
Our
homeowners
I
remember.
F
B
Yeah,
and
so
that
could
be
something
with
I
mean
you
guys
see
the
preliminary
plan.
You
know
what
the
neighborhood
might
end
up
being
and
you'll
you'll
hear
the
neighbors
concerns
to
where
that
might
be
something
you
want
to
look
at
when
you're
granting
the
conditional
use,
but
as
far
as
the
rezone,
though
not
at
this
time,
but
good
things
to
be
thinking
about
for
the
future.
H
Mr.
chair,
yes,
sir
Todd,
to
me
the
discussion
of
whether
or
not
these
are
storage
units
or
their
multiple
family
houses
is
really
irrelevant
at
the
time
of
the
rezoning.
It's
just
one
that
is
this
appropriate
place
for
anything.
That's
in
that
are
three
zoning
district
and,
if
we're,
if
we
at
the
preliminary
plan,
generally
agree
that
this
was
a
good
place
for
our
three
as
a
transition
zone.
I
I'm
supportive
of
the
are
three
rezoning
to
be
consistent
with
our
previous
decision.
F
A
A
C
B
C
A
Motion
is
approved,
I'm.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
We've
got
a
vallivue
second
annexation
and
zoning.
So
we'll
have
two
resolutions
on
this.
I
think
we'll
take
the
public
hearing
and
open
it
together
for
both
resolutions,
and
then
we
can
take
action
on
them
separately.
Brandy,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you.
So,
as
Blake
said,
this
is
the
annexation
zoning
for
Valley
View.
Second,
addition:
I'll
pull
up
the
map
here
in
this
area,
so
this
he's
petitioning
and
actually
this
exhibit
will
be
more
helpful.
So
the
first
edition
of
Valley
View
was
is
here
was
done
previously
and
the
preliminary
plan
is
still
effective
and
that
is
effective
until
what
date
is
here.
B
Anyways,
it
is
still
effective,
I
think
until
September
so
and
then
we'll
address
it
at
that
time.
The
developer
has
requested
an
extension,
so
we'll
look
at
the
plans
and
make
sure
if
anything
needs
to
be
amended
or
updated,
but
anyways
as
far
as
this
annexation
and
Zoning
goes.
He
is
proposing
to
annex
11.5
acres
and
it
will
include
another
portion
of
2nd
Street,
Northwest
and
so
again,
2nd
Street
and
I
can
go
to
GIS.
To
give
you
guys
a
better
idea.
B
A
C
C
D
D
B
E
B
So
we
have
dedicated
the
the
park
is
along
14th,
where
we
have
the
bike
trail
right
now
that
it.
That
area
is
considered
the
park
and
I
think
that
initially
the
Park
and
Rec
Department
was
thinking
that
that
might
be
a
like
a
starting
point
for
somebody
to
get
on
the
bike
trail
that
they
would
create
like
a
little
parking
area
and
gazebo
of
some
sort
as
a
trailhead.
B
B
E
B
And
I
think
there
would
be
areas
enough
or
they
could
grade
it.
I
just
think
that
with
having
our
trail
there
and
it
is
set
back
what
I
went
quite
a
ways
from
the
collector
that
at
the
time
that
this
was
approved
by
the
park
board,
they
thought
it
was
appropriate
where
it
would
be
more
of
a
native
natural
park.
I
know.
A
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
at
the
time
you
know.
Of
course,
that's
that's
the
decision
of
the
park
board
on
what
to
accept
her
or
not
to
accept
during
this
type
of
development,
but
there
was
discussion
on
whether
you
know
they
wanted
a
playground,
type
piece
of
land
or
or
that
I
certainly
do
like
to
see
playgrounds,
of
course,
but.
F
B
B
F
B
B
A
The
plan
does
show
there,
you
know
a
potential
option
for
that
Park.
Where
there's
you
know,
a
parking
area
and
the
grading
up
at
the
top
of
the
hill
could
be
conducive
to
some
sort
of
you
know:
small
playground
or
picnic,
shelter
or
something
along
those
lines,
but
now
that
that
strip
of
land
there
that's
the
park,
dedication
for
the
full
development
right,
yep.
B
Yeah
and
then
you
know
we
like,
we
want
to
have
a
park
every
quarter
mile,
so
where
River
Ridge,
then
there's
gets
up
to
the
the
north
end
of
their
development,
but
that's
really
prime
property.
There.
Unfortunately,
just
from
the
past
that
it
wasn't
accomplished,
it
was
slated
at
one
time
to
have
at
the
park
on
the
south
side
of
River
Ridge,
which
in
hindsight
you
know
you
could
have
combined
a
part
potentially
between
the
two
quarter
sections,
but
just
things
that
we're
aware
of
now
and
things
that
we
want
to
plan
for,
but.
F
B
A
A
B
B
A
H
A
B
And
then
actually,
I'm
I
have
another
topic
too
that
I'll
bring
up
after
this
one,
that's
already
on
the
agenda,
so
this
is
about
contractor
shops
and
storage,
the
arts
definition.
So
we
just
wanted
to
bring
this
to
the
board's
attention
to
get
your
thoughts
on
our
current
definition
and
to
make
sure
that
it's
accomplishing
what
we
want
it
to
and
what's
its
what
its
intention
is
because
it
could
be
it
could
they're
expanded
or
or
what
not
to
allow
for
other
things,
because
right
now
it
kind
of.
B
Let
me
get
the
definition
here
for
you
guys,
so
it's
the
use
of
land
or
buildings
for
storage
and
preparation
of
materials
used
by
the
same
that
same
individual
in
conducting
business,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
construction,
repair,
work,
fabrication
and
assembly
and
incidental
retail
sales.
Each
unit
shall
have
separate
water
and
sewer
utilities.
B
D
D
Most
of
them,
of
course,
are
for
the
most
part,
conforming
they're
in
the
appropriate
zoning
district
and
obtain
the
appropriate
conditional
uses,
but
absence
of
a
use
permit
in
this
in
this
community
we
don't
know
who's
coming
and
going
in
these
contractor
shops,
so
when
they're
built
and
when
they
go
through
the
proper
conditional
use
approvals
for
the
C
districts
and
or
when
they're
built
in
the
I
districts
as
permitted
uses,
you
know
the
intended
use
at
that.
Time
may
be
something
that's
in
compliance
with.
D
This
definition
has
generally
described,
as
you
see
there
on
the
screen.
Now
what
could
happen
and
I
at
what
does
happen
is
obviously
those
tenants
or
owners
of
those
units
will
change
hands
over
the
years
and
we
may
get
a
use
in
there
that
doesn't
quite
fit
intent
to
this
definition,
and
you
know
that's
not
necessarily
an
issue
that
we
seek
out,
but
there
are
times
we
come
across
these
things
and
have
to
call
it
attention
to
the
owner
of
the
facility
to
make
sure
that
they're
in
compliance
with
the
definition.
D
So
with
that
being
a
concern,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
the
board
was
comfortable
with
what
the
intent,
what
we
feel
staff
feels
the
intent
of
the
condition
is
or
whether
it
should
be
broadened
to
include
a
more
wide
range
of
uses
and
what
I
mean
specifically
to
that.
This
definition
does
reference.
D
The
preparation
materials
used
by
the
same
individual
and
conducting
businesses,
including,
but
not
limited
to
construction,
repair,
work,
fabrication
and
assembly
and
incidental
retail
sales.
So
with
this,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
lists,
we
as
staff
would
apply
that
to
presumably
mean
that
you
know
the
youth
should
fall
generally
in
that
realm
of
being
construction,
related
repair,
work,
related
fabrication,
related
assembly
and
then
incidental
sales
to
those
types
of
things
or
something
closely
related
to
that
I.
D
D
H
Heath
this
is
Todd
mr.
chair,
I,
think
the
term
incidental
retail
sales
is
problematic
because
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
that
means,
unless
you're
tying
it
to
those
previous
work
and
and
I
do
agree
in
the
review
of
this
definition
that
the
uses
of
those
storage
units
that
have
been
converted
into
contractor
shops
and
yards
is
primarily
for
the
guy
or
the
girl
to
show
up
do
the
thing
that
they're
doing
they're
related
to
that
business.
H
H
H
For
example,
I
looked
at
and
they're
both
have
language
that
says,
construction,
repair
work
and
the
primary
purpose
is
for
tenants
to
be
doing
their
work
off-site
to
the
word
off-site
is
in
those
definitions
so
I'll
just
let
you
know
that
our
current
definition
is
already
apparently
more
expansive
than
what
is
normal
quote
unquote
for
others.
I
in
this
area,.
A
You
know
akin
to
that,
where
you
you
expect
it
to
be
primarily
off-site
and
they're
doing,
maybe
some
some
work
there
or
storing
equipment
there
materials
there
when
I
look
at
that
definition
that
exists
today,
it
does
seem
really
quite
broad
I
mean
you,
you
get
into
fabrication
and
assembly
and
then
you're
talking
manufacturing,
right
retail
sales,
of
course
is,
is
quite
different
than
what
you
know
we
would
expect
to
see
from
a
typical
contractor
shop
once
seems
like
we
need
to
tighten
it
up
a
little
bit.
Mr.
G
Chair,
if
I
can
give
you
just
a
little
bit
of
a
history
or
more,
that
definition
came
in
back
when
we
started
building
in
the
Orencia
Edition
back
behind
the
mall
and
that's
contractor
shops
kind
of
started.
The
idea
was
to
give
contractors
whether
it
was
construction.
You
know
house
contractors
or
maybe
a
plumber,
the
area
in
which
to
store
their
materials
and
equipment,
a
an
office
space
and
then
an
incidental
retail
area
such
as
having
some
sinks.
G
You
know
that
might
be
available
through
that
plumber
or
maybe
shingles,
you
know,
or
a
pollster
or
not
necessarily
that
but,
like
you
know
when
they
have
the
shingles
on
those
demonstration
boards
and
things
like
that,
so
that
not
very
many
customers
were
coming
in,
but
they
they
could
sell
out
of
there.
But
it
was
basically
for
storage
of
equipment
and
doing
a
little
bit
of
manufacturing
of
putting
together,
maybe
some
cabinets
or
things
off-site
to
bring
it
to
the
other
work
place.
B
Because
I
think
the
main
thing
that
we
want
to
avoid
is
encouraging
customers
in
these
areas.
We
want
it
to
be.
You
know
it's
light,
industrial,
so
that's
because
we
want
them
in
an
area.
That's
where
the
manufacturing
or
whatnot
takes
place
or
the
loud
noises
heavy
equipment
and
then
that
the
actual
product
would
be
sold
in
a
zone
where
a
retail
establishment
was
allowed.
H
H
D
D
But
the
further
described
the
discussion
we
had
internally
as
staff
and
I
suppose
this
information
just
to
help
brainstorm.
Some
ideas
here
if
any
are
needed.
But
the
concern
of
the
question
was:
if
facilities
like
this
shouldn't
be
allowed
to
be
used
for
more
of
a
small
business
type
of
application,
not
necessarily
full-blown
retail.
D
If
the
board
feels
that
that's
something
that
we
should
look
at
doing
and
somehow
trying
to
quantify
now,
when
you
consider
that
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
mind
a
staff
also
comes
back
to
the
rest
of
the
zoning
ordinances,
we
have
to
work
with,
because
there's
a
lot
of
areas
in
town
where
those
types
of
incubator,
type,
new
business
development
types
of
businesses
can
go
into
several
a
zoning
districts
and
their
uses
would
accommodate
several
different
kinds
of
things.
Like
that
to
happen.
D
It's
just
whether
we
need
to
expand
that
whether
we
could
we
should
make
that
available
to
facilities
like
a
contractor
shop.
That's
kind
of
the
background
a
little
bit
more
background
on
the
discussion
that
was
had
and
I
wanted
to
share
those
thoughts
with
you
as
well
to
get
some
input
on
that
or
your
thoughts
on
that.
F
B
I,
don't
think
this
wouldn't
affect
any
any
contractors
shop.
This
would
just
tighten
up
the
language
so
that,
if
we
would
come
across
something
that
that
we
even
either
got
a
complaint
about
or
just
came
across
that
we
could
give
them
notice
that
hey
this
use
isn't
allowed
in
this
district
and
direct
them
to
you
know
more
probably,
more
commercial.
C
C
E
E
This
is
the
storage
yard,
so
it's
contractor
shops
and
storage
yards
are
in
the
same.
You
know
I'd,
that's
where
I
get.
You
know,
that's
where
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
gray
there's,
because
we
got
somebody
who
is
putting
up
storage
and
all
of
a
sudden
like
you're
saying
there.
You
know
maybe
going
to
be
running
something
that
wasn't
was
more
contractor,
see
what
I'm
saying
I
think
that's
where
the
gray
area
lies
in
my
opinion
is,
is
that
cross
over
there?
E
A
A
D
Think
to
me,
at
least
you
know
if
you're
familiar
with
the
industry
and
working
with
contractors
and
the
terminology
that
gets
thrown
around
in
a
construction
world,
it's
commonly
called
a
storage
yard,
where
a
contractor
would
keep
this
back
home
as
concrete
forms
and
things
of
that
nature
that
are
related
to
its
construction
business.
So
I
think
that's
why
that
term
got
plugged
into
this
definition
as
a
contractor
shop
and
storage
yard
right.
A
E
D
E
E
The
other
thing
I
guess
so
I
you
know
me
and
I'm
always
we
approved
you,
know
you're,
worried
about
that.
Someone
would
be
running
a
business
or
retail
out
of
their
late
retail
again
they're
gonna
go
full
fledge,
you're
gonna
want
to
be
some
work,
but
people
can
find
them
and
yet
so,
if
that's
a
concern
of
ours,
it
was
something
that
confuses
me
is
that
if
we're
gonna
allow,
you
know
that
we
also
allow
someone
to
live
in
this.
We
we've.
We
just
passed,
that
you
know
that
someone
can
live
in
a
contractor
shop.
E
B
The
the
caretakers
resident
yeah
and
that's-
we
actually
move
that
we
tighten
that
language
up,
that
it
was
just
permitted,
and
so
we
had
no
idea
who
was
living
in
them,
but
now
it's
a
conditional
use
where
it
has
to
be.
You
know
somebody
that
works.
There
owns
it,
whatnot
that
it's
more
of
a
it's.
You
know,
they're,
looking
after
the
property,
I.
A
B
E
B
C
A
G
C
A
B
Mean
if,
if,
if
we
feel
the
definition
is
fine
for
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish,
I
did
there's
there's
something
in
it.
You
know
that
just
we
could
rework
the
definition
to
make
it
explicit
for
contractor
like
businesses.
That
would
be
using
this
definition
and
then
try
to
you
know,
because
there's
have
it's
kind
of
its
broad,
where
so
for
storage
and
preparation
of
materials
used
by
the
same
individual
and
conducting
conducting
business
and
then
including,
but
not
limited
to.
This
is
where
it
kind
of
groups
them
into
the
the
construction
type
businesses.
E
Or
if
you
put
something
about
reach
sale
sales,
you
know
so
the
welder
you
know
I
come
in
hey
he
welded
it
I
paid
him
20
bucks
and,
on
my
way,
I
went
so
if
you
put
something
where
the
retail
sales
is
not
the
primary
source
of
income
or
could
you
do
something
like
that
or
doesn't
exceed
I
don't
know?
But
if
that's
what
you're?
Looking
for
to
get
the
retail
sales
out,
keep
I.
A
Mean
if
it's,
if
it's
a
contractor
and
they're,
offering
a
service
and
they're
billing
out
for
service
I,
don't
see
why
you
need
to
have
a
retail
nomenclature
in
there.
In
any
case,
I
mean
every
contractor
is
billing
for
their
services,
and
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
explicitly
described
them
as
retail
transact.
F
B
And
the
thing
about,
and
we
want
a
place
for
those
businesses
to
go,
and
you
know
it
depends
to
on
the
scope
of
the
business
if
it
these
types
of
contractor
shops
were
they're
all
connected,
and
you
know
once
the
business
expands,
then
they
they
would
go.
They
would
probably
have
their
own
lot
then,
and
and
need
more
space
for
employees
and
goods
and
in
storage
altogether.
A
My
only
concern
there
and
as
we
started
to
talk
is
that
fabrication
and
assembly
type
work.
So
if
it
is
somebody
doing
you
know
welding
and
there
contract,
you
know
shop
where
you're
bringing
materials
to
them.
They're
fabricating
something
and
then
yeah
I
mean
that's
done
on
site,
primarily,
but
still
still
fits
into
that
general
nature
of
contractors
show.
C
H
About
you
know
this
is
brought
up,
but
what
kind
of
triggered
this
discussion?
What
about
food
services?
There's
a
business
that
delivers
meat
door-to-door
or
something
and
they
use
they
use
it
as
their
storage
or
assembly,
or
maybe
not
me
dinner?
They
deliver
some
sort
of
food
with
the
truck,
but
they
use
the
shop.
Is
there
the
place
where
they
package
the
food.
H
Or
what
about
that?
Well,
this
is
Todd,
I,
mean
I,
think
I,
think
the
storage
unit,
this
the
shop
where
I've
got
maybe
reefers
in
there
I'm,
storing
the
truck
or
those
types
of
things.
I
think
that
that's
one
thing,
that's
probably
not
a
big
deal
like
what
I
would
envision
if
I'm
cooking
brats
on
a
Saturday
and
inviting
people
there
to
have
Ross
I,
don't
think
that's,
probably
the
intent
of
the
contractor
shop.
B
Right
well
and
with
food
services,
they
you
know
the
trigger.
There
would
be
if
they,
if
they
were
getting
a
license
to
the
Department
of
Health,
and
then
they
had
to
put
in
a
three
compartment
saying
that,
because
to
have
the
grease
traps
and
everything,
then
that
would
be
at
least
we
could
catch
that
that
to
say
hey
this
isn't
allowed
here.
It's
that's
a
commercial
use,
but
yeah
I
mean
Matt's
point
of
what.
B
D
Well
but
I'll
point
out
who's
that
could
mr.
chairman,
I,
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
agree
that
the
current
definition
allows
for
the
preparation
of
food
in
a
contractor
shop,
because
foodservice
to
me
does
not
fit
the
definition.
The
way
it
reads
right
now
today.
So
if
we
had
somebody
peddling
crates
the
frozen
meat
through
a
contractor
shop,
it
to
me
that
the
foodservice
type
of
industry
does
that
v
intent
of
the
definition
to
say,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
construction,
repair,
work,
fabrication
and
assembly.
D
I,
don't
know
I
guess
knowing
when
a
contractor
shop
and
storage
yards
intended
use
is
to
me
that
this
doesn't
feel
like
the
right
fit.
This
definition.
So
that's
the
good
point
right
there
on
whether
we
need
to
redefine
a
use
like
that,
rather
than
trying
to
force
it
into
this
definition
or
or
whether
we're
fine
with
that
is
right.
Now
we
don't
want
that
kind
of
function
to
carry
out
in
a
similar
owning
district
as
a
contractor
shop.
That's
kind
of
the
question
at
hand
here.
G
F
A
I,
just
I
think
we're
talking
about
some
some
issues
that
are
not
necessarily
fitting
in
this
definition.
Either
way
you
know
if
you
do
have
food
preparation,
I
think
there's
even
food
storage
I
mean
you're
talking
about
refrigerator
warehousing
operations
there
it's
more
or
akin
to
a
warehousing
operation,
not
a
contractor
shop
in
a
storage
yard.
So
I
don't
know.
A
I
I,
don't
see
any
issue
necessarily
with
the
addition,
as
it
exists
today
and
I
think
that
we
can
clearly
differentiate
between
some
of
this
other
stuff
that
doesn't
fit
the
intended
definition,
and
if
it
does
become
a
problem,
then
you
know
you
have
to
address
it
with
the
the
use
right.
It's
not
a
useless
zoned
for
that
district
right.
H
I
guess
I,
would
you
know,
go
back
to
staffs
and
say
that
if
something
comes
before
you
and
you
don't
think
it
fits
and
you
let
them
you
let
the
person
know
that
it
doesn't
fit.
They
have
the
ability
to
come
back
to
this
board
and
appeal
your
decision
to
say
whether
you're,
right
or
you're,
wrong,
I
I
think
most
of
us
trust
you
guys
to
to
make
the
call
on
that
yeah.
D
D
I.
Think
that's!
Where
we've
become.
We
become
obligated
to
administer
this
definition
as
it's
written
and,
and
maybe
tell
the
foodservice
guy-
hey,
that's
not
applicable
use
for
this
definition
in
this
facility
that
you're
in.
But
here's
where
you
can
go-
and
you
know
those
are
the
discussions
that
we
would
be
faced
with
the
staff
which
were
a
ok
administering
that
way
and
just
wanted
to
check
this
off
with
the
board.
A
I
guess
to
add
to
what
Todd
had
said
you
know
as
far
as
recourse,
if
they
did
disagree
with
any
decision,
but
if,
if
something
does
come
up
that
genuinely
doesn't
fit
into
a
definition
for
any
use
that
we
have
today
and
that
we
want
to
look
at
potentially
creating
a
new,
a
new
definition
for
and
determination
of
where
it
fits
within
the
existing
zoning
districts.
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate
to
come
back.
You
know
if
we
have
a
specific
use
case
to
review.
A
D
Can
speak
to
that
briefly
to
mr.
chair
yep,
you
know
we
threw
that
around
internally,
as
well
with
staff
and
I
can
I
can
envision
some
contractors
having
its
in
a
retail
sales.
Let's
say
you
have
a
chlorine
installer,
and
this
is
his
warehouse.
Restoring
his
flooring
and
he's
got
remnants
left
over
from
projects
and
he
wants
to
get
rid
of
those
on
a
retail
basis
to
some
other
customers.
That
might
not
be
an
issue
based
on
this
definition.
C
D
A
few
examples
like
that
that
could
come
into
play
that
I
think
maybe
is
why
that
incidental
retail
sales
is
in
there.
Yes,
there
are
ideas.
We
can
work
around
that
I
think
if
it's
kept
in
there,
but
if
the
board
feels
that
it's
kind
of
pushing
the
limits
a
little
too
broad
for
what
we
want
for
this
definition,
we
can
certainly
look
at
cranking
that
out
as
well
I
mean.
A
I
think
I'm
fine,
either
way,
I
mean
I.
Think
those
incidental
sales
would
be
fine
as
being
ancillary
to
one
of
these
other
functions,
whether
or
not
it
explicitly
stated
it
in
the
definition.
However,
I
also
believe
that
the
incidental
aspect
of
that
does
imply
that
it
has
to
be
incidental
to
one
of
the
previously
defined.
You
know.
Construction
repair
work
fabrication
assembly,
so
it's
a
secondary
used
to
the
the
primary
conditional
use
right.
A
A
B
All
right
and
then
the
other
discussion
item
I,
have
is
kind
of
similar
where
it
can
go
many
different
ways.
So
this
is
about
shipping
containers
as
storage
units.
So,
if
you
guys
are
familiar
along
Highway
20
there,
there
there's
those
white
shipping
containers
and
they're
just
becoming
more
popular
people
using
them
for
storage.
So
the
thing
about
them
is
they
can
they
can
sit
either
on
a
foundation
or
just
on
the
ground?
They
could
be
used
as
an
accessory
structure.
B
Although
we
can't
we
can't
really,
they
don't
really
have
a
use
because
they
can't
be
an
accessory
structure
in
the
residential
zone
because
they
don't
have
residential
siding
and
in
the
commercial
zone.
They
they
don't
fit
the
use
of
like
a
store.
They
don't
fit.
The
definition
of
a
storage
unit,
because
it's
not
all
under
one
structure
I
think,
is
what
we
reference
for
that.
So
basically,
what
we're
asking
for
here-
and
we
discussed
this
internally
too-
and
we
kind
of
landed
on
that.
B
F
B
B
It
was
permitted
or
if
it
got
the
conditional
use
or
but
not
it
could
be
perpetual
or
or
temporary.
We
were
thinking
you
know
right
now.
People
use
them
temporarily
when
they're
moving,
where
I
think
in
the
definition.
We
would
like
to
say
you
know
if
that
these
types
I
mean
we'd,
have
to
tweak
that
to
see
to
say
that
there
was
like
a
limit
of
where
they
could
be
in
a
residential
district.
B
Just
so
then
somebody
wasn't
moving
or
did
move
and
had
one
and
then
ended
up
staying
in
the
backyard
unpermitted,
and
then
it
doesn't
fit
the
nature
of
a
residential
zone,
but
they
are
convenient
for
people
to
use
for
moving.
So
we
want
or
remodeling.
So
we
want
to
still
allow
that
where,
if
somebody
would
see
that
in
in
a
neighborhood
that
they
wouldn't
call
and
complain,
but
that
we
would
either
either
by
permitting
or
just
that
it
wasn't
there
for
more
than
60
days.
D
D
Enough
to
do,
we
would
just
want
the
board's
input
on
where
you
envision,
seeing
these
staffs
recommendation
would
be
maybe
in
some
of
the
sea
zones
as
as
maybe
as
conditional
uses.
Maybe
it's
permitted
and
then,
of
course,
in
some
of
the
I
zones,
maybe
as
permitted,
maybe
as
conditional.
The
other
factor
we'd
have
to
plug
in
an
equation
is
where
we
would
deem
them
allowable
as
the
primary
structure
versus
an
accessory
structure.
Those
are
kind
of
the
components
we're
trying
to
wade
through.
D
A
Think
that
sounds
appropriate
and
you
know
definitely
looking
at
whether
it
could
be
permitted
use
in
like
an
Izone
quite
a
bit
different
than
what
you'd
want
in
a
residential
zone
and
having
some
sort
of
temporary
guidelines
for
residential
use.
You
know.
Certainly
there
are
some
some
good
uses
for
these
things
in
the
residential
capacity.
F
B
The
difficult
part
is
when
we
permit
them:
are
they?
Are
they
primary
or
there
are
they
accessory?
Because
you
know
one:
one
property
might
already
have
a
primary
business
where
they
want
to
use
it
as
their
storage
or
like
their
shed.
You
know,
and
then
another
business
or
another
property
might
be
vacant,
and
then
they
want
to
use
it,
as
you
say,
they're
selling
trailers
and
they
want
that
to
be
their
office,
or
you
know
that
there's
no
other
buildings
on
the
site,
then
what
do
we
consider?
It.
F
D
And
that's
where
I
think
you'd
want
to
make
sure
that
definition
is
clear
on
the
intent
of
the
use.
If
it
is,
you
know
if
it
is
defined
as
a
portable
storage
unit
to
me,
just
off
the
cuff,
that
wouldn't
constitute
an
office
use
because
it's
a
portable
storage
unit,
so
you'd
want
the
definition
to
be
clear
on
the
intent
of
the
use
of
this
type
of
a
structure
or
accessory
structure.
And
that
way
it's
not
confusing
and
we
got
people
using
them
for
things
that
they
weren't
intended
to
be
used
for.
True.
H
D
H
H
H
B
When
there's
in
that
room,
same
thing
could
go
for
these,
that
we
could
actually
just
permit
them,
and
then
say
you
know,
the
max
is
60
days
of
what
it
can
be
in
that
neighborhood
and
at
least
have
an
idea
if
they're
going
to
be
used
temporarily
know
if
they're
going
to
be
used
for
like
the
primary
structure
on
a
lot,
I
know
that
they
are
storage,
so
that's
usually
accessory.
But
what
happens
if
it?
If
there
are
no
other
buildings
there?
B
D
Did
an
example,
a
real-life
example
that
we'll
use
here
that
just
came
up
and
what
start
of
this
discussion
is.
We
have
a
a
current
commercial
use,
I'll
call
it
and
the
same
that
business
owner
owns
property
across
the
street
from
them,
and
they
need
additional
storage
for
their
business.
So
they're
wanting
to
install
a
couple
of
these
on
the
property
they
own
across
the
street,
from
where
they're
the
primary
business
is
so
that
line
across
the
street
is
barren
right.
Now,
there's
not
another
primary
structure
on
there.
D
These
would
become
the
only
structures
on
that
vacant
lot.
So
you
can
look
at
it
from
a
lot
ownership
standpoint.
You
know
the
business
has
its
primary
structure
located
on
one
property,
but
across
the
street
is
a
separate
property.
It's
an
accessory
used
to
the
function
of
what
they're
doing,
but
it's
a
primary
use
of
that
land
across
the
street.
D
H
Think
I
think,
if
we're
talking
about
something
where
it's
not
adjacent
to
the
existing
Lots
across
the
street
I
think
the
neighbors
have
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
those
types
of
situations,
I
think
if
it's
an
extra
storage
unit
on
the
building
where
the
businesses
right
now,
that's
that
that's
completely
accessory
and
if
we
want
to
make
that
work
work.
But
you
know
if
it's
a
commercial
district
where
other
people
have
businesses
and
buildings
and
Ollis,
and
you
plop
two
or
three
of
these
things
or
next-door
to
them.
H
They
might
have
a
detrimental
impact
upon
their
business
and
and
and
what
it
looks
like
to.
And
so,
if
we're
thinking
about
doing
something
in
that
situation,
I
would
think
that
the
neighbors
should
have
the
ability
to
wait
on
that,
not
just
as
a
as
being
invited
to
a
conditional
use
permit,
but
I
think
at
least
it
has
to
be
some
sort
of
evidence
that
they've
been
talked
to
about
it.
You.
A
A
G
No,
it
was
actually
it
went
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment
for
conditional
use
for
storage
units,
a
building
a
very
long.
If
some
of
you
may
may
remember
that,
okay
and
it
was
approved
for
that
I
believe,
but
he
never
built
them,
and
then
it
was
determined
at
a
staff
level
that
if
he
he
decided
he
wanted
these
cubes
storage
cubes
and
that
no
board
approval
was
required.
It
was
seen
as
more
of
a
parking
lot
situation
as
in
selling
used
cars.
That's
the
only
notes
we
have
on
it.
B
A
C
Brandee
currently,
then,
when
we
talk
about
these
pods
for
lack
of
a
better
term
and
the
residential,
there
is
no
permitting
or
length
of
timing
in
and
I,
don't
have
a
big
issue
with
your
sixty
days.
I
guess
one
of
my
things
is
so
if
there
was
like
a
fire
damage
and
it
was
storage
and
it
got
to
be
a
three
month
process,
but
they
I
think
there's
got
to
be
a
way
to
regulate
that
in
the
residential.
C
B
B
I
think
that
it
could
be
a
per
62
if
we
said
it
expires
after
sixty
days
and
then
per
situation.
If
they're,
you
know,
if
they're
actively
working
on
a
remodel
or
something
where
it
just
took
longer,
but
keeping
an
eye
on
it
where
it's
like.
You
know,
if
they'd
come
back
in
and
you'd
give
him
an
extension,
then
it
probably
wouldn't
be
for
an
additional
60
days,
but
it
would
be
monitored
then,
to
like
make
sure
that
they
were
you
know
getting
the
project
on
what
they
said
was
happening
in
a
timely
manner.
H
You
know
I
can
see
it
for
certain
types
of
uses
like
new
construction,
but
if,
if
I'm
having
somebody
come
in
to
redo
three
bedrooms
in
the
house
or
redo,
the
basement,
I
got
to
move
all
the
furniture
out.
There
are
plenty
of
storage
units
in
this
plate
in
this
city.
That
I
can
take
my
furniture
there
and
so
I'm,
not
necessarily
certain
that
you
need
to
have
a
big
container,
taking
up
two
parking
spaces
in
front
of
somebody's
house
or
in
their
garage.
H
E
A
E
And
another
thing
that
might
help
you
regulate
that
for
India's.
If
there
were
some
where
to
stick
a
label
right
on
the
pod
that
when
they
come
to
get
the
that,
it's
posted
on
street
side
that
this
this
expiration
date
is
such-and-such.
You
know
it
would
be
something
that
you
would
hand
print
out
every
time
and
they
have
to
display
that
on
the
pod
mmm-hmm
that
way
the
neighbor
can
say
can
count
the
days.
How
long
do
I
have
to
look
at
this?
E
We
don't
have
to
police
it,
or
you
know,
City
Hall
doesn't
have
to
police
that
the
neighbors
will
please
that,
because
if
it's,
you
know,
I
think
60
days
is
ample
of
time.
Otherwise,
like
Todd
is
saying
you
know,
I've
run
into
it
where
people
are,
you
know,
moving
or
waiting
to
move
and,
and
so
they
get
a
pod
and
they
slowly
start
packing,
and
they
know
that
to
pick
it
up,
there's
a
fee,
it's
kind
of
like
the
moving
of
a
house.
E
You
know
it's
just
as
much
to
pick
it
up
and
move
it
as
it
is
to
raise
it
so
there's
a
fee
I
know
associated
with
that.
Every
time
they
pick
that
up
and
move
it
to
another
site.
They
charge
X
amount
of
dollars.
So
it
would
just
be
a
way
to
you
know
if
they
know
that
they're
gonna
move
it
any
way
to
storage.
You
know
it's
just
it.
The
big
label
on
there
would
just
make
it
easy.
Everybody
can
see
it
when
it's
got
to
be
gone
and
the.
E
It's
just
bran
I,
just
think
they're.
You
know
you
go
much
more
than
you
go
90
days,
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
long
time
to
have
to
look
at
something
like
that
in
your
neighborhood
and
you
know
half
the
time
it's
gonna
be
in
front
of
the
sidewalk,
because
they're
long,
you
know
they
block
the
sidewalk,
even
the
long
dumpsters.
If
you
don't
have
you
know,
I've
done
it
myself.
E
B
And
that's
worse,
so
if
we
would
have
a
you
know,
what's
been
happening
so,
like
people
have
been
using
them
and
we
haven't
gotten
any
complaints,
I,
don't
think,
but
I'd
have
to
confirm
with
Brent,
but
it
could
I
mean
so
it's
a
matter
of.
Is
it
an
issue
or
if
we
have
the
permit,
then
then
we
can
look
at
that
and
where
it's
being
placed
and
for
how
long?
But
do
we
have
to
fix
that
problem?
If
it
is,
maybe
it
isn't
one
card
I.
D
Speak
that
quick,
Randy
yeah,
so
CAD
deal
with
two
separate
subjects
here:
one
the
on-site,
more
long-term
use
of
these
things
in
the
C&I
zones
and
then
a
lot
more
time
for
using
the
Brandi's
point.
When
we
talked
about
the
residential
uses
internally,
you
know
we
do
have
a
lot
of
ordinances
in
place
already
that
kind
of
self-regulate
that
process
right
now
we
don't
combine
ala
juice,
une
permits
for
these
things
to
get
dropped
up
in
somebody's
driveway.
D
We
would
issue
a
permit
if
it's
in
the
right-of-way
and
it
sits
on
the
curbside,
for
example,
because
we
require
the
stores
of
any
materials
or
a
storage
unit
like
this
to
be
temporarily
placed
in
the
right-of-way.
We
do
issue
permits
for
those
things
already,
just
like
a
dumpster
that
was
referenced.
These
storage,
pods
I'm,
pretty
sure
we've
issued
the
same
similar
to
right
away
permit
for
those
as
well
so
I
guess,
where
I'm
going
with
that
is
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
rest
of
it.
D
Aside
from
what's
in
the
right
away,
well,
I
should
say,
including,
what's
in
the
right-of-way,
is
already
regulated
the
way
it
is
right
now,
the
stuff
in
the
driveways
or
in
the
backyards,
and
things
like
that
I
think
becomes
self
regulated
with
the
breadth
of
ordinances
we
already
have
in
place.
You
know
to
use
city
attorneys
terminology,
you
know
these
could
be
deemed
as
junk
or
unsightly
or
nuisance
that
we
could
cite
people
for
for
their
long
enough.
We
start
to
get
complaints
on
them.
We.