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Plan Commission Meeting - 08-06-2020
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B
We'll
go
ahead
and
call
to
order
the
august
6
2020
watertown
plan
commission
meeting.
I
get
a
roll
call.
A
B
A
I
probably
should
say
that
targets,
johnson
and
hanson
are
absent.
We
have
a
quorum.
B
Item
three
invitation
for
public
comment
participants.
So
if
there's
anybody
in
the
room
that
would
like
to
speak
to
the
board
on
something,
that's
not
on
the
agenda
today,
we'll
have
a
spot
for
that
at
the
end,
after
the
regular
agenda
feel
free
to
sign
up.
Moving
on
to
item
four's,
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
A
I
have
some
amendments,
okay
and
also
so
in
the
agenda
packets
that
were
sent
out.
The
order
has
changed.
If
you,
if
you
guys
noticed
the
one
that's
posted
online,
is
the
most
current,
and
so
I
will
actually,
though,
we'll
be
striking
item
a
for
the
commission.
Consideration
of
resolution
number
2020-38
adopting
the
boundaries
of
the
tiff
number
14
that
will
be
coming
forward
on
the
august
20th
meeting.
A
A
B
C
A
B
C
E
A
B
C
B
E
A
Okay,
thank
you
blake.
So
this
is
commission
consideration
of
resolution
number
2020-36,
a
zoning
text,
amendment
to
chapter
2129,
the
cl
lake
commercial
district
of
the
revised
ordinances
of
the
city
of
watertown.
So
this
goes
back.
We
just
created
this
cl
district
in
2019
and
obviously,
as
a
new
district,
a
new
zoning
district
that
there
would
be
you
know
it
wouldn't
be
perfect
and
there
would
be
some
changes
that
would
have
to
be
made
as
it
was
utilized.
A
And
so,
as
you
all
recall,
stony
point
has
put-
or
it
was
approved
on
monday-
that
they
will
be
rezoning
to
the
cla
commercial
district.
A
So
basically,
though,
so
we
have
the
design
standards
and
under
structure,
then
we
said
currently
it
says:
impervious
areas
shall
not
exceed
50
of
the
total
lot
area
and
I
believe
the
intention
was
that
we
would
just
have.
We
would
have
open
space,
and
so
we
thought
using
impervious
encompassed
that,
but
it
does
have
a
deeper
meaning.
So
then,
just
to
be
specific,
then
I
think
what
we're
proposing
to
add
is
that
it'll
will
add.
Wetlands
and
water
bodies,
including
required
detention
ponds,
shall
not
count
towards
impervious
areas
for
the
purpose
of
this
calculation.
A
C
A
B
E
Perhaps
we
should
rewrite
this
to
not
use
that
word
at
all
and
come
up
with
a
if
it's
the
board's
intention
that
what
brandy
was
getting
at,
that
wetlands
can
be
the
borders
really
meaning
that
there
needs
to
be
open.
Space
and
wetlands
can
be
included
as
part
of
that
calculation,
which,
I
think
is
the
intentions
of
what
brandy
is
getting
at
here.
If
the
board's
intention
is
that,
I
think
it
can
be
reworded
to
be
to
clearly
express
that
intention.
G
I
know
brandy
and
I
went
back
and
forth
and
I
actually
visited
with
the
mayor
on
this
as
well
trying
to
find
the
right
language
here,
the
right
terminology
we
contemplated
terms
such
as
using
the
term
open
space,
but
then
you
know
defining
what
that
looks
like
in
relation
to
development
and
otherwise
built
out
structures
and
impervious
areas.
G
G
B
Part
of
the
intention
of
using
impervious
is
so
that
you,
you
capture
the
things
that
you
you
do
want
to
include
in
that
calculation,
like
you,
know,
parking
lots
and
roads
and
that
that
sort
of
thing
right,
as
well
as
the
structures.
D
Yeah
this
is
a
commissioner
brink.
We
do
have
in
our
ordinance
the
definition
lot
coverage
and
it's
that
portion
of
a
lot
covered
with
structures
and
hard
surfaces
such
as
parking,
loading
and
storage.
I
don't
know
if
that
better
fits
what
we're
looking
for,
but
that's
already
in
our
ordinance
and
defined.
A
E
H
I
B
B
E
Could
it
be
just
as
simple
as
saying
that
artificial
impervious
area
I
mean
again,
I
don't
know
the
nomenclature
and
the
vocabulary
the
engineers
and
I
would
default
to
mayor
karen
or
mr
bonai,
but
could
it
just
be
simple
as
inputting
artificial
in
front
of
impervious.
A
I
I
really
like
brink's
suggestion.
I
think
that
that's
clean
cut,
what
we're!
What
we're
wanting
to
accomplish.
B
F
F
If
we
said
we
were
redefining
the
word
impervious
by
eliminating
some
of
the
things
that
actually
are
considered
impervious,
I
I
don't
think
that's
really
the
best
way
to
go.
I
think
I
think
that
lot
coverage
term
is
so
much
better,
especially
if
we've
already
got
it
used
in
our
ordinances
and
it's
already
defined.
It
seems
like
the
perfect
solution.
B
I
believe
we
do
have
public
hearing
on
this
one
here
too,
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing.
If
anybody's
here
to
speak
on
behalf
or.
H
H
C
E
I
mean,
I
think
we
have
a
resident
drainage
expert.
Don't
we
is
the
mayor
on
the
line.
C
I
am
on
the
line
I'm
flattered
that
you're
calling
me
an
expert.
E
Mean
I
mean
I'm
just
doing
some
real
brief
googling
here,
which
of
course
is
very,
very
dangerous,
and
I
understand
that,
but
wetlands
are
impervious
structures
right
I
mean
that's
the
issue
from
an
engineering
standpoint.
C
C
I
Well,
I
can
tell
you
what
my
desire
is
because
I
know
three
of
us
sat
in
a
room
for
four
months
and
we
had
several
conversation
about
this
and
if
we
would
have
known
that
the
term
impervious
being
used
as
part
of
the
subdivision
and
drainage
regulations
was
going
to
complicate
what
the
intent
was.
I
don't
we
would
have
used
the
word
impervious.
B
I
B
You
know
specifically,
we
talked
about.
We
talked
about
protecting
the
natural
aesthetics,
we
talked
about
spacing
between
structures,
so
it
really
truly
was
about
the
coverage
of
the
lot
and
not
whether
or
not
it
was
technically
impervious.
I
Yeah,
I
don't
I
don't.
I
mean
I
understand
mr
divorce
concern,
but
this
isn't
an
about
face
from
the
intent
of
what
we
were
trying
to
do
with
the
original
ordinance.
At
least
that's
my
recollection.
F
This
is
ford,
I
I
agree
with
you
blake
that
I
believe
was
our
intention,
as
you
just
described
it,
and
I
don't
perhaps
we
needed-
or
there
still
needs
to
be
a
deeper
discussion
on
the
stormwater
issue
and
these
parts
of
this
property,
the
wetlands
and
the
detention
pond
that
really
aren't
considered
imper
that
are
considered
impervious
and
how
storm
water
and
water
runoff
is
going
to
affect
the
lake
going
over
those
impervious.
I
E
And
I
chair,
I
didn't
mean
to
drag
us
into
the
proverbial
wetlands
here,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
weren't
defeating
the
purpose
of
our
ordinance.
I
didn't
understand.
The
purpose
was
purely
one
of
open
spaces
and
live
coverage.
Not
I
didn't
realize.
I
thought
that
there
was
a
underlying
storm
water
issue,
or
perhaps
that
was
to
avoid
a
storm
water
or
drainage
issue.
But
if,
if
that
that
wasn't
the
purpose,
then
I
don't
have
any
concerns.
B
Now
the
ordinance
really
doesn't
address
that,
specifically
here
heath.
You
know
from
your
perspective,
on
the
engineering
side,
all
the
requirements
from
a
water
and
and
construction
requirement
runoff,
they
would
still
be
subject
to
regardless
of
of
the
specific
zoning
requirements.
G
That
includes
chapter
23,
the
drainage
regulations
and
then
the
the
temporary
bmp
for
construction
purposes,
those
requirements
and
then
also
the
permanent
best
management
practices
such
as
your
water
quality
and
water
quantity,
bmps
that
that
are
triggered
for
the
regulations
in
those
documents.
F
So
he
are
you
basically
saying
that
if
we
make
this
change
with
the
lot
coverage,
the
quality
of
the
water
in
lake
compesca,
that
comes
off
this
property,
we
have
provisions
in
place
to
protect
that.
G
That
is
correct.
There
are
still
provisions
in
place
for
the
property,
the
developer,
to
be
held
accountable
to
and
and
carry
out,
not
only
through
construction,
but
also
post
construction
for
long
term
durations.
A
G
I
too
understood
the
intent
of
this
to
simply
be
undeveloped,
open
space,
green
space,
whatever
we
want
to
call
it
area
and
and
did
not
think
to
you
know
when
we,
when
we
put
the
term
impervious
in
there,
didn't
think
to
consider
sites
where
there
would
be
water
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
lot,
and
so
now
that
just
so
happens,
our
first
application
came
through
as
water
as
part
of
the
surface
of
the
lot
and
that
area
being
a
wetland
and
and
fitting
the
the
otherwise
intended
meaning
of
this
ordinance
as
left
his
open,
green
undeveloped
area.
A
A
B
A
D
This
is
brink
again.
You
know
I
just
kind
of
want
to
bring
up
some
discussion
when
we
first
introduced
lot
coverage
into
the
ordinance
it
was
back
in
2014.
D
D
C
D
Correct
this
is
a
brink.
Again,
I
mean
the
way
I
was
kind
of
looking
at
this
when
I
was
reviewing
this.
I
kind
of
tried
to
envision
a
lot,
and
I
thought
you
know
if
there's
a
lot,
that's
ten
thousand
square
feet
and
five
thousand
square
feet
of
it
is
in
wetlands.
D
Do
we
want
all
remaining
five
thousand
feet
to
to
be
built
upon,
or
would
we
rather
that
be
half
of
that
and
be
2500
and
2500
might
be
a
little
restrictive
and
maybe
maybe
it
is
too
restrictive,
but
would
we
rather
have
the
applicant
come
to
us
with
a
variance
request,
then
just
outright
change?
The
ordinance
now
before
we've
had
any
building
in
our.
I
You've,
the
first
time
we've
varianced
the
ordinance
you
basically
effectively
lowered
the
bar.
So
if
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
variance
requests,
we
might
as
well
just
make
everything
a
conditional
use
and
just
handle
it.
That
way,
I
mean
I
hate
creating
policy
that
you
got
to
bend
the
rule
the
first
time
it
comes
out.
I
A
Right
because
we
do
look
at
it,
you
know
if
we
have
an
ordinance
and
that
that
we
are
getting
a
lot
of
variance
requests
for
then
we
do
say,
then
we
probably
should
just
have
an
ordinance
amendment.
A
Well,
we're
trying
to
set
the
pre
like
set
well
and
what
the
intentions
were
like
in
the
subcommittee
meetings,
and
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
just
that
impervious
had
a
different
definition
than
what
that
group
was
aware
of.
So
then
that's
just
where
we
just
wanted
to
clarify
it
right
away.
I.
B
I
Right,
I,
I
don't
think
it's
just
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
just
the
the
subcommittee.
We
all
talked
our
way
through
this
once
if
we
haven't,
if
we're
having
buyers
remorse
on
it,
then
then,
maybe
that
the
idea
is
not
it's
not.
It's
just
leave
the
impervious
in
and
and
we've
when
we
run
with
it
and
then
then,
but
we
don't
have
impervious
identified
or
defined
in
the
zoning
regulation.
I
I
think
there's
a
legal
argument
that
made
that
that
they
could
make
an
argument
that
impervious
doesn't
have
is
only
germaine
to
the
storm
water,
drainage
aspect
of
it,
but
I
I
mean,
but
the
point
is
from
my
perspective:
we
either
just
you
know,
qualify
and
what
we
were
trying
to
say
before.
Obviously,.
C
C
C
D
Sure
I
I
listened
to
the
whole
meeting
from
the
march
5th
meeting
when
we
approved
this
ordinance
and
that
particular
point
didn't
come
up
in
that
meeting
and
I
know
there
were
other
meetings
and
I
know
there
was
a
subcommittee
that
looked
at
this
too,
but
at
our
meeting
where
we
approved
it,
there
was
no
discussion
on
that
bullet.
C
B
B
G
Yeah,
mr
chair,
from
a
staffing
standpoint,
I
would
concur
with
with
your
comments
there.
I
think
the
intent
here
was
to
clean
up
the
language
to
better
reflect
the
intention
that
was
originally
set
out
for
and
which
again
goes
back
to
undeveloped,
green
space,
open
space
being
preserved
on
a
certain
percentage
of
a
lot,
that's
being
developed
as
a
cl
under
the
cl
district.
B
I
E
E
A
B
D
A
E
I
C
B
D
E
A
A
A
Obviously,
plan
commission
doesn't
take
action
on
it.
It's
just
for
information
and
then
city
council
will
act
on
it
on
august
17th
when
this
or
when
this
goes
to
council.
The
development
agreement
is
pretty
standard.
The
only
thing
that
is
different
than
than
typical
agreements
is
just
that
we
have
that
pro
rata
share
for
the
cost
recovery
of
2nd
street
northeast
or
northwest.
I
keep
messing
that
up.
A
So
you
can
see
here
there
will
be
the
extension
of
third
fourth
and
fifth
and
then
eighteenth
will
come
across
and
connect
over
to
second
street.
A
A
I
Okay,
brandy
on
the
18th,
is
within
the
land
use
plan
and
changes
we
made.
Are
we
looking
at
that
as
a
minor
collector.
A
Actually,
no
so
I
did,
and
so
okay
thanks
for
bringing
that
up,
because
in
the
development
agreement
you'll
see
that
I
did
call
it
a
collector,
but
it's
actually
it's
a
local
street.
It's
a
local
through
and
second
street
is
actually
the
collector.
So
I
did.
G
I
I
just
remember,
being
you
know
we
were
talking
about
when
my
property,
where
we
built
our
new
offices
and
making
18th
a
collector
route
going
back
to
the
east,
and
I
know
we
had
discussions
when
we
were
doing
the
land
use
plan
about
18th
running
again
to
the
west
as
a
as
a
something
of
a
collector
route.
I
don't
maybe
with
the
school
we
didn't
want
to
do
that.
I
can't
remember.
G
Yeah
commissioner
kerry,
I
think
you're
right
the
school
property
and
then
those
existing
houses.
I
know
we
ran
into
some
issues
there
when
we
were
looking
at
that
route
being
a
collector.
A
C
A
A
G
Brandy,
heath
here
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
too
that
the
the
plot
presented
here
before
the
commission
is,
in
general.
Compliance
with
previously
proved
preliminary
plan.
A
A
A
E
B
A
Yep,
thank
you
blake,
so
this
is
approving
the
plaid
of
the
watertown
airport,
first
subdivision
to
the
municipality
of
watertown
in
the
county
of
cottington
south
dakota,
and
this
is
basically
just
a
up
here
that
you
can
see.
In
the
background
information.
The
property
is
zoned
i1,
light
industrial.
This
is
just
encompassing
all
of
the
bound
all
of
the
airport
boundaries
and
just
getting.
I
think
it's
been
a
while,
since
this
has
been
done.
If
you
guys
remember
you
probably
don't
remember,
but
like
a
year
ago,
we've
been
working
on
to
get
this
done.
A
Obviously,
it's
a
large
project
and
then
you
know
working
between
the
consultant
and
then
the
faa
and
making
sure
that
everything
was
being
followed
and
then
so.
But
we
did
have
a
vacation
of
that
brooklyn
edition
that
there
was
some
right-of-way
that
existed
still
and
that
was
on
the
southeast
portion
of
the
airport
property,
but
basically
just
just
to
clean
up
to
get
all
of
the
all
of
the
airport
property
planted.
A
G
And
to
give
a
little
more
context
here,
this
is
heath
again
in
working
with
todd
our
airport
manager.
G
Some
of
the
board
could
probably
recall
that
we
actually
did
approve
a
plat
roughly
approximately
a
year
ago,
maybe
a
little
longer
than
that,
and
that
plat
then
went
to
council
but
was
never
subsequently
went
through
final
approvals
and
and
filing
it
was
put
on
hold
because
of
some
determinations
by
the
faa,
where
we
had
to
negotiate
with
them
on
what
public
rights
way
or
whether
they'd
be
identified
as
easements.
G
This
all
kind
of
stems
back
to
the
efforts
of
this
project
and
the
faa
kind
of
driving.
This
requirement
on
the
airport
to
correct
any
discrepancies
in
the
airport
legal
descriptions.
You
know
preserving
the
airport
property
boundaries
and
then
protecting
and
preserving
the
accesses
that
go
to
and
through
and
across
airport
property.
G
So
it's
kind
of
an
faa
driven
project
that
was
forced
upon
us,
so
to
speak
that
we
needed
to
do
to
become
in
compliance
with
their
regulations.
G
And
now
we've
got
a
draft
that
the
faa
has
checked
off
on
and
staff's
reviewed
and
also
approved,
and
is
why
it's
before
the
board
again
now
so.
B
G
So
when
you
have
a
public
road
going
across
and
through
or
adjacent
to
the
or
on
the
edge
of
airport
property
and
and
there's
no
public,
right-of-way
platted
or
there's
no
easements
over
it,
that
tends
to
cause
concern
to
the
faa
when
you're
looking
at
it
from
an
airport
property
management
standpoint.
G
And
so
that's
where
you
see
all
the
roads
around
here
now
are
covered
with
right
away,
are
access
easements
and
are
appropriately
accounted
for
still
being
within
the
confines
of
the
airport
property
limits.
G
G
B
G
I
would
just
add,
mr
chairman,
if
I
could
you
know
this
is
a
pretty
extensive
plan
and
it
did
take
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
dedicated
work
from
our
consultants,
with
the
survey
side
of
things
with
helens
and
associates
and
and
their
participation
in
this,
and
I
I
can
tell
you
it.
It
is
a
great
project
to
get
completed
if
you
know
upon
approval
of
this
at
the
council
level
to
have
the
airport
property
now
truly
definitively
defined.
A
G
A
manner
that
makes
sense
and
is
in
and
is
in
compliance
with
what
the
faa
would
also
expect.
So
I
just
wanted
to
note
that.
B
C
B
A
E
The
mayor
might
get
angry
at
me.
What's
this,
what's
the
story
mayor
with
this
10th
avenue
widening?
Is
that
or
heath?
Is
it
going
to
get
a
public
hearing
and
will
that
be
planned?
Commission
city
council.
G
Yeah,
thank
you,
commissioner
and
mayor
the
way
so
that
it's
a
capital
improvement
project.
That's
under
design
right
now
we're
about
50,
complete
on
the
design
and
with
most
capital
improvement
projects.
We
typically
wouldn't
have
any
kind
of
a
public
hearing
or
formal
action
of
that
nature.
G
Normally
it's
just
you
know,
approved
via
the
the
budgeting
function
that
the
council
performs
by
awarding
a
budget
for
the
project
to
commence,
and
then
it's
administratively
carried
out
through
the
engineering
staff.
Now
what
I
can
tell
you
on
that
project
in
particular,
there's,
obviously
a
lot
of
public
involvement
with
the
adjacent
landowners.
G
So
we
did
hold
a
public
open
house
a
week
week
and
a
half
ago
and
invited
all
the
property
owners
adjacent
to
the
scratch
of
10th
avenue
that
will
be
reconstructed
and
then
subsequent
to
that
meeting.
We're
also
having
individual
landowner
meetings
on
a
one-on-one
basis
with
engineering
staff,
our
consultants
and
those
property
owners
and
and
talking
through
all
the
details
of
the
design
and
any
impacts
that
they
might
have.
E
Well,
I
appreciate
that
and
you
obviously
just
like
normally
you
guys
are
going
above
and
beyond.
I
had
some
people
had
already
expressed
concerns
about
it.
I'm
sure
what
you
guys
have
already
heard.
G
No
that's
a
fair
question,
commissioner.
I
I
don't
see
that
there
would
be
a
traditional
role
that
the
planning
commission
would
have
again
be
get
because
of
the
nature
of
it
being
a
a
capital
improvement
project,
reconstruction
of
existing
infrastructure.
E
G
Yes,
you
know
some
of
the
design
components
that
are
being
considered
and
have
been
put
together,
thus
far,
you're
exactly
right.
They
stem
directly
from
the
fact
of
the
that
roads,
functional
classification
being
a
collector
route.
G
You
know
that
that
collector
route
designation
does
does
stem
not
only
from
our
our
comp
plan,
our
transportation
master
plan,
but
also
just
simply
from
the
the
facts
of
the
traffic
volume
that
that
road
sees.
You
know,
there's
national
standards
too,
when
it
comes
to
these
classifications
and,
generally
speaking,
nationwide.
G
Those
standards
for
those
classifications
directly
relate
to
those
traffic
counts,
and
so
we
do
have
the
the
traffic
count,
data
on
10th
and
it
sees
roughly
between
4
500
to
5
000
vehicles
per
day,
4
500
to
4
800,
depending
on
the
stretch
of
the
road
you're
on,
and
that
does
put
it
into
that
collector
classification.
G
The
next
lower
classification
would
be
a
local
street
designation
and
that's
more
you're,
not
more
less
traveled
neighborhood
streets
like
pretty
much
most
of
those
off
streets
along
tenth
that
you
would
turn
off
to
to
go
into
those
residential
neighborhoods.
G
G
Yes,
I
would
add
to
heath
again
here
that,
starting
on
monday,
we
will
be
bringing
on
a
new
employee
in
the
community
development
division
for
the
city.
So
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
those
couple
of
changes
here
with
the
board
with
the
recent
retirement
of
our
building
official.
G
If
you
recall
some
of
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware
that
we
we
revamped
that
position
a
little
bit,
we
created
what
we're
calling
a
community
development
manager
and
that
position
will
oversee
the
building
services,
the
planning
and
zoning
and
code
compliance
for
the
city
and
the
community
development
manager
also
wears
the
building
official
hat
as
well
that
they
act
in
that
official
capacity
as
well,
so
that
that
interview
process
has
occurred
and
we've
are
getting
ready
to
onboard
the
new
community
development
manager
effective
this
next
monday.
G
Here,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
introducing
you
to
that
individual
in
the
subsequent
meetings
and
working
together
with
current
staff
and
with
her
and
continuing
to
improve
the
development
processes
and
and
everything
that
all
these
kind
of
projects
we've
been
working
on.