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City Council Meeting - 09-08-2020
B
Thank
you
for
being
here
among
us.
We
thank
you,
lord,
that
you
all
all
power
is
given
by
you.
All
government
is
instituted
by
you.
We
thank
you,
lord,
for
those
whom
you
have
called
to
serve
on
on
this
city
council.
We
asked
lord
that
you
guide
them
and
bless
them
and
their
deliberations
and
their
decisions
this
evening
that
you
be
with
all
who
are
here
to
testify
and
bring
business
before
the
council.
B
B
B
B
A
C
A
A
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
all
right
does
the
post
signify,
saying
nay,
motion,
carries
item.
Six
is
the
public
comment
period
and
this
is
a
time
reserved
for
anyone
who
would
like
to
make
a
public
comment
to
step
forward
and
do
so.
Please
state
your
name
into
the
microphone
for
the
record
before
making
a
comment,
and
if
your
comment
is
related
to
an
agenda
item,
please
wait
until
that
agenda
item
is
taken
up
by
the
council.
Is
there
anyone
here?
Who
cares
to
speak
if
you're
online
just
say
permission
to
speak.
A
D
D
I
believe
it
was
last
year
when
we
did
the
assessment.
We
actually
had
a
committee
that
was
formed
and
they
came
up
with
a
kind
of
a
revised
urban
renewal
plan
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
determined
as
a
is
that
this
assessment
would
go
towards
the
downtown
park
and
that
there
is
a
stipulation
in
here
that
it
has
to
be
constructed
by
december
31
to
2021
other
than
that.
D
A
Yes,
could
would
anyone
like
to
make
a
motion
before
I
open?
The
public
hearing
have
a
motion
by
bill
howard
for
a
second
and
a
second
by
hoyer.
Okay,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
at
this
time
and
open
the
public
hearing.
If
anyone
is
here
to
speak
on
this,
please
come
forward
to
the
microphone
state,
your
name
and
then
give
your
piece.
B
This
is
a
piece
of
property
on
first
avenue,
northwest
and
third
street
on
the
kind
of
basic,
the
very
far
edge
of
this
district
or
whatever
they're
calling
it
we're
part
of
a
manufacturing
facility.
I
can
imagine
that
I
get
nothing
out
of
this.
I'm
not
going
to
get
any
people
coming
to
my
property
and
buying
my
product
or
a
test
facility
for
turquoise
machines.
Diamonds
dies
different
things
like
that.
F
I'm
sorry,
I
was
a
little
slow
to
react
there.
My
name
is
jim
owen.
I
own
a
property
at
21,
first
avenue
southeast
it's
across
the
street
from
the
courthouse
and
I'm
happy
to
support,
downtown
and
pay
the
assessment,
because
I
do
benefit
from
that,
at
least
through
the
benefit
that
my
the
tenants
in
my
building
receive
by
having
you
know,
snow
removal
and
things
like
that.
But
there
are
a
few
things
that
are,
I
think,
not
fair.
In
the
way
the
assessment
has
been
calculated.
F
I
have
one
building
with
three
commercial
tenants
and
three
residential
tenants,
and
I
noticed
that
in
the
assessment
explanation
it
says
that
this
is
for
commercial
properties
only.
But
when
I
asked
about
cutting
my
assessment
in
half
because
half
of
the
building
is
residential
and
half
is
commercial,
I
was
informed
that
there
was
no
proration.
F
A
F
F
A
D
A
G
This
is
something
we
kind
of
had
chirped
about
a
little
bit.
Last
time
I
was
on
the
board
when
this
got
brought
back
up,
but
as
of
right
now,
there's
an
exemption
towards
just
apartments
that
are
down
there
and
I've
never
really
seen
the
difference
between
that
being
exempted
just
because
it
is
a
commercial
property.
There
is
somebody
using
it
as
that
right.
I
just
think
it's.
If
we're
going
to
have
the
businesses,
do
it
that's
business
too,
I
would
include
that.
A
H
A
G
F
A
D
Our
window
would
be
pretty
tight
at
this
point.
I
would
need
the
resolution
we
actually
to
be
honest.
I
don't
know
if
it
could
happen,
because
I
would
have
to
do
another
public
notice,
which
has
to
be
no
less
than
10
no
more
than
20
to
all
the
owners
again
and
then
I
would
have
to
so.
I
don't
know
how
long
it
would
take
for
the
plan
to
get
amended.
D
A
G
G
Well,
otherwise,
just
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
have
a
trigger
that
sets
it
up.
So
we
discuss
it
a
little
sooner
next
year,
so
we
don't
get
pinched
down
on
it
like
that,
just
because
there
is
a
very
symbiotic
relationship
between
people
living
in
the
downtown
and
then
the
businesses
that
are
there
benefiting
from
that.
D
J
I
think
we
had
some
of
these
concerns
a
year
ago
concerning
what
we
are,
including
and
excluding,
as
well
as
the
boundaries,
to
some
extent
I
would
like
I,
I
don't
think
it's
feasible
to
look
at
making
a
change
this
year,
but
I
would
definitely
like
us
to
take
a
closer
look
at
this
next
year
to
see
if
we
should
be
tweaking.
You
know
both
what's
included
excluded
as
well
as
the
boundaries
of
this
district,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
are
hitting
what
we
are
intending
to
do.
K
A
You
you
certainly
could
modify
the
plan
and
that's
what
would
have
to
be
done
to
add
in
it
would
also
have
to
be
done
to
take
out.
So
you
could,
by
description,
we're
saying
anything.
That's
totally
residential
is
exempt,
but
we
could
add
that
in
for
multi-family,
if
we
wanted
to
and
then
change
out
anything
that
isn't
you
know
if
it's
I
don't
know
whatever
you
want
well.
K
I
think
we
could
establish
some
criteria
that
that
would
say
that
or
that
would
define
whether
or
not
this
is
beneficial
at
all
to
some
of
those
businesses,
because
I
agree
it's
it's
a.
I
think
it's
unfair
to
those
folks
that
really
won't
benefit
from
this
they're,
paying
the
money,
but
they're
not
really
getting
anything
in
return
for
it.
A
G
I
just
think,
historically,
we've
kind
of
seen
that
some
of
those
businesses
that
are
more
in
line
with
gentlemen's
too,
are
kind
of
on
the
fringe
of
the
district.
So
I
think
reviewing
some
of
the
boundaries
of
how
we
have
it
might
solve
a
lot
of
these,
because
I
know
basically
on
the
east
side
of
it
and
on
the
west
side
of
it.
G
You
run
into
that
problem,
a
little
bit
where
it's
just
these
aren't
necessarily
the
core
downtown
area
that
really
this
is
kind
of
affecting,
so
might
be
something
we
take
a
look
at
next
year,
since
our
timeline
has
pushed
so
hard,
but
I
would
say
that
the
decision
to
do
it
and
what
it
has
spurred
on,
has
stimulated
a
lot
of
growth
downtown.
So
I
I
think
there
is
value
to
it,
but,
okay,
I
do
think
we
need
to
review
the
boundary
a
little
bit.
C
I'm
kind
of
tagging
in
with
what
bruce
had
said
it,
but
in
a
little
bit
different
way.
I
still
have
that
in
my
mind
that
a
park
downtown
is
something
that
the
city
of
watertown
should
all
be
paying.
For
I
mean
it's
a
two
million
dollar
park,
500
000
being
paid
for
it
seems
like
the
city
should
be
paying
that
and
if
there
are
true
assessments
that
could
be
used
downtown,
it
could
be
used
to
pay
for
different
property.
C
I
I
guess,
I'm
still
thinking
that
this
should
be
a
city
that
walks
in
and
pays
for
that
park
that
we
all
want,
and
you
know
we
voted
on
it
back
in
2012
and
or
13
when
we
did
the
h2020
that
the
city
wanted
it.
We
didn't
say
that
we
wanted
downtown
people
to
pay
for
a
park
for
the
rest
of
us
to
use.
So
I'm
still
going
back
to
the
thing
I
I
don't
think
this
is
the
right
way
to
fund
that
park.
G
Now
it's
it's
continuing
to
grow,
so
I
think
we'll
just
see
more
utilization
but
again
addressing
the
other
stuff.
We
got
to
tighten
the
boundaries,
probably
a
little
bit
just
so
that
we
can
get
some
of
the
manufacturing
and
based
products
like
that,
maybe
out
of
it
just
because
they're
not
near
it.
So
we'll
see
it's
a
it's
a
discussion
honestly.
I
think
that
board
should
get
together
again
and
really
take
a
hard
look
at
it.
I
Thank
you
mayor.
I
will.
I
have
opposed
this
in
the
past.
I
will
oppose
it
tonight.
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
businesses
that
are
not
helped
by
this,
so
I
don't
think
that
they
should
be
taxed.
I
think
that
the
timing
of
this
is
unfortunate
during
covid.
There's
a
lot
of
businesses
hurting
a
lot
of
these
downtown
businesses
are
probably
hurting
significantly
and
so
to
take
their
money.
Just
at
this
time
doesn't
seem
wise.
I
I
also
disagree
with
the
premise
that
we're
going
to
say
we're
going
to
build
a
park
to
try
to
help
you
and
we're
going
to
start
helping
you
by
taking
your
money.
Just
disagree
with
that
premise.
I
also
think
that
the
urban
renewal
tax
is
being
used
as
justification
for
the
park,
and
I
don't
think
that
it's,
it
would
not
be
my
form
to
justify
a
two
million
dollar
expenditure
because
we
have
to
spend
seventy
thousand.
A
E
K
D
K
K
J
A
The
council
can
not
do
the
park
if
the
council
chooses
not
to
because
and
then
we'd
have
to
give
the
money
back
that
we
collected
for
the
park
or
you
can
go
forward
and
just
fully
fund
it
or
we
can
change
the
boundaries
in
the
methodology
for
next
year,
and
I
mean
this
comes
back
every
year.
Every
year
you
vote
on
it
and
you
can
tweak
it
or
whatever.
A
A
L
L
L
So
what
we
had
in
that
late,
commercial
district
was
a
certain
amount
of
area
within
those
lots
in
the
cl
district
that
could
not
be
essentially
not
be
developed.
That
we
wanted
left
is
open
space
undeveloped
space,
which
could
mean
anything
from
grass
and
trees
to
park
benches
and
ponds
to
you
know
just
things
that
were
not
considered
development
from
a
conventional
sense.
So
the
word
selection
used
in
there
that
was
that
the
impervious
area
shall
not
exceed
50
percent
of
the
total
lot
area.
L
Well
again,
unintentionally,
that
word
impervious
was
selected
and
also
implies
to
water
bodies
or
wetlands
or
other
features
like
that.
That
are
also,
in
fact
impervious
and
couldn't
then
count
towards
the
open
space.
So
we
needed
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
We
did
that
with
the
planning
commission
and
on
the
august
6th
meeting.
The
planning
commission
recommended
approval
of
this
change,
and
I
see
I
don't
think
that's
up
on
the
screen.
Is
it
I'll
share
my
screen
here,
quick
to
display
the
exact
language?
L
It's
just
a
simple
strike
of
the
impervious
area
and
changing
that
terminology
that
lock
coverage
shall
not
exceed
50
percent
of
the
total
lot
area.
This
term
lock
coverage
is
defined
in
our
zoning
ordinance
to
mean
a
portion
of
the
lock
covered
with
structures
and
hard
surfaces
such
as
parking
loading
and
storage.
A
B
G
A
D
D
There
were
a
few
very
small
changes
to
the
budget
ordinance
in
terms
of
what
we
had
discussed
during
the
budget
hearings
in
august
to
what
you
see
before
you,
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
little
bit
of
background
in
doing
some
of
our
I
kind
of
go
through,
and
I
review
make
sure
everything's
right.
We
did
find
a
small
mathematical
error
in
the
fire
and
ambulance
personnel.
D
D
The
hr
software,
which
is
later
on
in
the
agenda
you
will
see,
was
kind
of
going
back
and
forth
between
a
couple
different
companies
and
with
that
we
needed
an
extra
fifteen
thousand
five
hundred
for
the
operating
cost
for
2021.
For
that,
so
I
did
plug
that
in
just
so.
It's
it's
there,
I'm
following
action
on
the
software
tonight.
D
The
last
thing
that
did
change
from
the
budget.
Hearing
to
what
you
see
before
you
is
during
the
budget
hearing,
the
mayor
had
a
request
for
the
transfer
in
from
the
municipal
utilities
and
they
did
come
back
and
they
have
changed
that
number.
So
there
was
a
decrease
to
the
transfer
in
of
about
159
000
less
than
what
the
mayor
had
as
her
request.
So
those
changes
have
been
placed
into
the
ordinance.
Like
I
said
first
reading
this
will
come
before
the
council
at
the
next
meeting
too.
J
D
Yeah
that
was
already
in
the
budget
was
the
part-time
they
had
kind
of
asked
about
that
prior,
so
that
was
actually
part
of
the
mayor's
budget,
so
those
numbers
were
already
in
there.
These
were
just
things
that
I
kind
of
identified
after
the
hearing
that
were
changes,
but
no
the
time
buyer
position
was
in
there.
J
D
L
A
The
the
forestry
tech
position
that
we
talked
about
is
in
the
budget,
and
I
did
talk
to
some
of
the
council
members
about
upgrading
that
into
an
actual
arborist
or
a
forester
and
we'll
handle
that
later.
We
don't
have
a
job
description
yet,
and
so
we
don't
know
what
the
salary
would
be,
but
we
can
come
back
later
and
and
do
a
supplement
if
we
need
to
if
the
council
wants
to
go
that
way.
So
I
did
mention
that
to
some
of
you
and
that's
how
we'll
handle
that
any
other
questions
or
comments.
A
What's
that,
yes,
this
first
reading,
thank
you
kristen!
Thank
you
all
right.
Item
d
is
also
a
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
20-33
amending
the
zoning
map
of
the
city
of
watertown,
south
dakota,
for
a
portion
of
country
club
estates
edition
from
one
single
family,
residential
district
and
pud
planned
unit
development
to
cl
lake
commercial
district
and
our
one
single
family
residential
district.
No
action
here
I'll
ask
heath
on
eye
to
tell
us
about
this.
L
Yes,
thank
you,
mayor
vince,
foley,
charlie
mack
are
the
acting
agents
on
this
application
for
the
prairie
winds,
golf
llc
and
they
have
petitioned
to
rezone
this
this
property,
it's
it
would
be
a
rezoned
from
the
current
designations
of
r1,
single
family,
residential
district
and
a
pud
plan
unit
development
to
a
cl
commercial
district
and
ciel
lake
commercial
district.
Excuse
me
and
an
r1
single-family
residential
district.
L
L
M
M
So
what
they're
proposing
right
now
there
will
be
a
replat
and
vacation
actually
coming
to
the
plan
commission
on
september
24th,
but
this
is
to
get
the
rezone
going
to
see
if
it's
even
appropriate
or
you
know
if
the
council
is
in
favor
of
it.
So
we
wanted
this
to
come
forward
before
and
then
the
vacation
of
the
right-of-ways
and
the
replat
will
come
forward.
Then,
after
this
rezone
action.
Well-
and
this
is
the
first
reading.
M
G
I
know
some
of
the
concern
with
the
planning
commission
was
just
that
this
area
tends
to
have
a
lot
of
moisture,
it's
a
kind
of
a
swamp,
so
just
kind
of
wondering
how
that
is
going
to
be
addressed
because
there's
a
lot
of
wetland.
That's
within
that
area.
I
know
that
we've
discussed
wetlands
a
bit
in
the
past,
but
I
guess
kind
of
wondering
how
that
utilization
is
going
to
work
it
just.
G
It
seems
like
we're
taking
a
piece
of
semi-undeveloped
full
land
anyway
and
then
just
re-platting
it
too
and
you're
not
re-planting
it
but
making
it
into
a
new
zone.
I
mean
realistically,
I'm
not
like
opposed
to
them
changing
their
designation.
It's
just
I'm
kind
of
curious
how
that
lands
gonna
be
utilized
with
its
current
condition.
M
Yes,
so
they
got
the
determination
back
from
the
core
that
these
are
non-jurisdictional,
so
they
can
fill
and
really
so
right
now,
with
them
being
platted
residential
lots.
If
they
wanted
to
build
houses
on
there,
they
would
have
to
elevate
the
house
or
bring
in
phil
to
the
17
25.8,
which
is
a
free
board.
The
foot
above
the
face
flood
elevation,
and
so
with
them
doing
a
commercial
development
with
the
storage
units.
M
A
L
C
M
Yeah,
so
they
are
planning
on
doing
storage
units
in
this
area,
and
the
good
thing
about
the
cl
district
is
that
when
they
do
about
residentially
zoned
properties
that
they
will
have
to
use
residential
materials,
so
like
the
lap,
siding
or
whatnot
that
they
wouldn't
be
metal,
so
they
would
be
more
aesthetically
pleasing,
so
they
would
kind
of
look
like
a
you
know.
A
detached
garage
could
even
though
it'll
just
be
multiple
garages
in
a
row.
A
M
J
I
I've
got
some
some
concerns
about
this,
but
I'll
I'll
hold
off
my
comments
for
the
second
reading
in
two
weeks,
but
I
would
encourage
my
colleagues
up
here
if
you
haven't
already
done
so
to
please
take
a
look
at
to
watch
the
video
of
the
august
20th
planning
commission
meeting
good
discussion.
Some
opposition
was
presented
at
that
meeting,
so
good
discussion
on
both
sides.
So
I
would
encourage
us
to
take
a
look
at
that
video
prior
to
our
our
meeting
for
the
second
reading
in
two
weeks.
I
A
A
Okay,
because
I
believe,
a
wetland
that
close
to
the
lake
that
was
connected
to
the
lake
would
have
been
jurisdictional,
so
it
must
be
disconnected
entirely
in
order
to
be
non-jurisdictional,
which
means
it
doesn't
have
an
outlet.
It
just
ponds
water
and
if
you
feel
the
bowl,
where
does
the
water
go?
That'll
be
the
question
to
answer
when
they
come
in
with
a
development
proposal,
but
the
water
will
have
to
go
somewhere
and
it
won't
just
disappear.
A
A
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
item
e,
which
is
also
a
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
20-35,
establishing
the
zoning
designation
of
c3
highway
commercial
district
for
a
portion
of
property
south
of
highway,
212
and
east
of
23rd
street
southeast
known
as
endri's
third
edition
heath.
Will
you
tell
us
about
this?
Please.
L
M
Okay,
okay,
so
this
is
the
first
reading
for
the
zoning
of
the
under
third
edition,
and
it
is
robert
robert
endress
is
the
owner
and
he's
looking
at
bringing
in
8.35
acres
of
commercial
c3
property.
That's
highway
commercial,
and
I
mean
it's:
it's
adjacent
to
the
the
c3
district
and
then
there's
i1
abutting
it
as
well-
and
this
will
also
this
will
connect
10th
avenue
to
23rd
and
26th
street
through
his
current
farmland.
M
M
E
M
Well
and
if
you've
been
out
in
that
area,
they
have
actually
started
work
which
it's
kind
of
on
them.
At
this
point,
you
know
as
far
as
the
city
has
been
aware
of
it,
so
I
think
that
there
has
been
some
inspections
done,
but
we
will
inspect.
It
then
went
to
the
annex
and
zone.
We
would
officially
approve
the
construction
plans.
We
have
looked
at
them
and
had
correspondence
with
the
developer
and
their
engineer.
M
So
once
you
know
once
it's
officially
annexed
and
zoned
and
it's
built,
then
we'll
do
our
normal
inspection
process
and
then
it
will
be
platted
as
well.
After
the
preliminary
plan
would
be
approved,
and
then
we
would
get
the
plaque
going
forward.
So
at
that
time,
if
they
already
have
the
development
or
the
infrastructure
installed,
then
there
might
not
be
a
need
for
a
development
agreement,
except
we
might
want
to
include
that
warranty
language
so
that
we'll
look
at
that
and
see
where
they're
at
with
the
process.
It's
definitely
not
typical
to
what
we
see.
L
Yeah,
essentially
the
developer's
a
step
ahead
of
the
game
and
wanting
to
get
this
this
road
constructed
and
really
what's
driving,
I
presume
driving
the
sale,
the
potential
sale
of
this
lot
and
so
justin
peterson.
Our
assistant
city
engineer,
has
been
in
communications
with
their
engineer,
austin
engineering
on
reviewing
the
design
plans
for
the
construction
of
10th
and
they're,
getting
all
that
checked
off
so
that
it
does
get
constructed
to
an
acceptable
form.
Meeting
cities,
engineering,
design,
standards.
L
A
A
All
right,
we'll
move
on
item
f
is
thank
you
brandy
and
heath.
Item
f.
Is
approval
of
resolution
number
20-38,
the
plot
of
campesca
dunes,
third
subdivision
to
the
municipality
of
watertown
in
the
county
of
cottington,
south
dakota
and
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
the
development
agreement
for
the
plat
of
campesca
dunes?
Third
subdivision:
I
do
need
a
motion
on
this
emotion
by
bueller
and
a
second
by
lollam,
and
I
would
like
heath
to
tell
us
about
this.
Please.
L
Yeah,
so
some
some
14
years
ago
now,
where
we've
had
the
initial
part
of
the
subdivision,
got
built
along
with
this
this
pond
and
then
subsequently
ownerships,
I
think
changed
hands,
maybe
once
or
twice
and
past
owners
have
wanted
right
of
this
detention.
Pond,
like
the
city
normally
does,
will
take
over
residential
detention
ponds
for
city
ownership
and
maintenance.
We
have
not,
however,
accepted
this
one,
because
the
previous
subdivision
was
not
able
to
provide
us
the
accurate
and
adequate
information
that
showed
that
this
was
constructed
to
meet
our
design
standards.
L
So
that
being
said,
the
south
portion
now
has
been
sold
off
and
a
new
owner
has
come
into
play,
wanting
to
develop
this
and
plat.
This
lot
and
they've
worked
with
the
other
developers
to
expand
this
detention
pond
to
make
it
adequate.
For
this
whole
entire
subdivision
area,
in
its
full
built
out
capacity,
and
so
there
this
this
plant
would
include
an
extension
of
that
detention
outlet
to
accommodate
not
only
the
existing
development,
but
also
any
future
development
of
the
southerly
portion
of
this
subdivision
with
that
brandy.
M
Yes,
thank
you
so,
as
he's
described
here,
we've
been
working
with
the
developer
paul
carlson
quite
extensively
almost
for
a
year
now
on
this
property,
as
he
purchased
it
from
dlt
development
and
so
dlt
development
currently
owns
detention,
outlet,
a
and
or
actually
the
existing
pond.
So
now,
with
this
plot,
we
are
expanding
it.
Where
you
can
see
where
the
dashed
line
is,
and
so
then
we're
going
to
call
it
all
detention
out
lot.
M
A
so
paul
is
contributing
some
property
to
towards
enlarging
the
pond
so
that
it
functions
correctly
because
he
had
his
engineer
go
out
and
you
know
survey
it
and
see
why
it
wasn't
functioning
so
they
they
left
into
that.
We
reviewed
the
plans
and
it
looks
like
you
know
what
they,
what
we've
reviewed.
It
should
function
and
they
because
that's
been
an
issue
all
along
is
the
drainage
out
there
and
people
having
concerns
about
developing
it
further.
M
So
then,
now
with,
let's
see
lot
three
I'll
get
down
there
on
my
screen
so
lot,
one
block
three
that
has
well
actually
I'll
take
a
step
back,
so
the
whole
area
has
been.
The
preliminary
plan
has
been
approved
by
the
plan
commission
and
then
the
lot
one
of
black
three
has
been
rezoned,
in
conformance
with
the
preliminary
plan
to
our
three
multi-family
residential
and
then
they
got
a
or
they
received
a
conditional
use
from
the
board
of
adjustment
for
storage
units,
and
so
that
has
all
been
approved.
M
The
plat
is
the
last
the
last
item
to
finish
up
and
we
believe
with
being
able
to
successfully
work
here
together
with
both
developers
that
this
should
be
an
improvement
to
the
drainage
on
expanding
that
pond,
and
then
we
can
and
then
you
know
he
can
convey
this
lot.
One
of
black
three
to
be
developed
as
the
storage
units
that
were
approved.
L
Along
with
that,
we
also
had
sidewalk
commitments
that
hadn't
been
fulfilled.
Yet
they're
also
carried
over
into
this
current
development
agreement
today,
so
there
would
be
sidewalk
extended
on
the
on
the
detention
lot
and
then
future
commitments
for
the
subsequent
runs
of
sidewalk
they're
outlining
the
development
agreement.
M
N
B
M
M
H
L
A
The
bmp
agreements
are
only
for
the
private
facilities
that
give
us
the
right
to
enter
onto
the
property
and,
and
they
are
obligated
to
do
maintenance,
where
it's
anticipated,
that
we
will
own
this
pond.
So
there
won't
be
a
bmp
agreement
that
runs
with
this
one,
that
one
that
we
modified
is
a
privately
owned
pond,
and
this
one
is,
I
mean,
they've,
been
trying
to
get
us
to
take
it
over,
and
this
is
they're
making
improvements
to
it
to
make
it
acceptable
for
us
to
take
over.
M
All
right
and
typically
yeah
like
I
just
want
to
expand
to
a
little
on
what
the
mayor
had
said
there.
So
the
bmp
maintenance
agreements
come
into
effect
when
it
is
like
a
commercial
or
industrial
property
residential
properties.
It
is
typical
for
us
to
our
residential
subdivisions
and
their
detention
pond
requirements.
We
do
typically
take
those
over
because
not
every
subdivision
has
like
an
hoa.
M
A
C
C
L
The
soil
conditions
don't
accommodate
infiltration
or
inflow
into
the
into
the
subsoils
infrastruct
infiltration
into
the
ground,
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
This
will
sit
here
and
pond
for
quite
some
time
and
what
that
does
is
then
ends
up
being
a
kind
of
a
sprawling
ponding
effect
is
because
of
the
grades
that
are
out
here.
It's
a
low-lying,
fairly
flat
area
and
so
you'll
get
some
standing
water
out
here.
L
That'll
expand
out
quite
a
ways,
but
now,
with
this
footprint
being
built
according
to
the
the
developers
engineer,
you
know
any
water
that
was
displaced
here.
There
should
be
some
channel
surface
conveyance
to
get
that
water
to
flow
over
into
into
this
pond
area,
and
then
it
would
be
handled
subsequently
from
there
with
the
other
infrastructure.
That's
already
in
place.
L
J
Guess
just
to
echo
dan's
question
or
comment
or
concern,
I
got
the
same.
You
know
same
concern.
I
drive
by
there
a
couple
times
every
day
and
you
have
an
awful
low
lying
area,
putting
an
awful
lot
of
fill
which
can
take
an
awful
lot
more
fill
as
development
occurs.
I
I
guess
we're
relying
upon
what
you're
telling
us
heath
as
engineers
that
that
holding
pond's
eventually
going
to
be
able
to
handle
everything
that
that
entire
area
is
going
to
be
funneling
into
it,
and
I
guess
we're
relying
upon
you
on
that
regard.
Heath.
L
L
It
looks
undevelopable,
but,
as
most
of
us
know,
you
can
you
can
engineer
almost
anything
and
if,
as
long
as
it's
constructed
right
and
they
follow
through
with
the
plans
that
are
reviewed,
which
is
part
of
our
role
as
well
in
inspecting
that
work,
you
know
that's
in
the
end.
In
the
end,
that's
the
the
goal
is
that
it
does
function
even
better
than
it
did
before,
because
currently
there
is
no
outlet
for
this.
L
O
B
A
G
H
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
what
you
have
before
you
council
is
the
approval
of
tax
increment
district
14.
The
watertown
development
company
prepared
the
plan
that
you
see
attached
to
the
agenda
on
behalf
of
the
developer.
Stony
point
investments
llp.
It
was
brought
forward
to
the
plan
commission
on
august.
Excuse
me
s
august
20th
plan
commission
voted
unanimously
to
approve
the
plan
and
the
boundaries
and
the
plan
before
you
will.
H
The
estimated
investment
in
this
plan
is
roughly
19
million
dollars
and
the
estimated
increment
it'll
be
generated
over
20
years
is
a
little
over
5
million
dollars
and
before
I
finish
here
and
turn
it
over
to,
I
think
chris
might
be
in
the
room
to
answer
any
additional
questions
on
specifics.
I
imagine
the
developers
in
there
as
well,
but
I
would
just
add
that
the
title
on
the
agenda
is
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
lacking.
A
D
N
H
A
B
A
Yeah
any
discussion
on
the
amendment.
Okay,
we
will
vote
on
the
amendment
to
the
motion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
okay.
The
motion
is
amended
now
I
would
like
to
entertain
discussion
on
the
topic
of
the
tax,
increment
financing
district
boundaries,
the
plan
and
the
development
agreement.
B
Yeah
chris
shelton,
with
watertown
development
company
matt,
had
mentioned
that
number.
I
think
it
was
just
a
little
bit
over
five
million
with
the
new,
updated
numbers
based
on
the
project
amount,
so
that
would
be
the
max
amount
there
either
that
number
or
20
years.
Whatever
would
happen.
First
would
be
the
max
amount
they
would
get
in
the
plan.
B
B
J
J
J
So
you
may
want
to
put
that
for
future
use
and
the
developer
only
receives
payments
as
property
tax
payments
are
a
collector
there's,
no
there's
no
upfront
funding
that
are
going
to
the
developers
correct.
Okay,
I
do
want
to
point
out
if
we
turn
to,
I
think
it's
page
146
in
our
agenda
package,
because
I
think
we
tend
to
overlook
this
or
kind
of
blow
right
by
it.
But
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
it.
J
First
of
all,
we
we're
limited
as
to
how
many,
how
much
in
the
way
of
tiffs
we
can
do
based
on
our
taxable
value
right
in
the
city,
correct
and,
as
I
understand
that
we're
limited
to
10
of
a
figure
of
1.7
billion
dollars.
Roughly
so
that's
17
million
is
what
we
can
tip
and
that
17
million
is
based
upon.
B
J
Taxable
value
correct:
not
what
the
future
value
will
be:
okay,
so
with
this
tiff
that
will
bring
us
up
to
about
seven
million
a
little
over
seven
million
dollars
in
active
tiffs.
I
guess
the
point
I'm
making
is
that,
as
we
start,
I
mean
we've.
We've
used
tiffs
pretty
liberally
within
the
last
year
or
two
now,
primarily
with
with
your
you
know,
promoting
them
chris
and,
I
think,
they're
a
wonderful
tool.
J
So
I'm
strongly
in
favor
of
this,
but
by
the
same
token,
we've
got
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
do
have
a
an
upper
limit
at
that,
as
we
get
closer
to
that,
we've
got
to
be
careful
that
we
are
using
it
for
projects
that
definitely
need
them
or
would
not
go
forth
without
the
tif.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
that
the
the
the
sky
isn't
the
limit.
There
is
an
upper
upper
dollar
limit
on
what
we're
allowed
as
far
as
tiff's
right.
B
A
A
Okay
item
h
is
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
an
agreement
with
criterion
for
hr
and
payroll
software,
and
we
have
both
the
hr
director,
julian
pifley,
and
our
I.t
director
spencer
tennis,
on
line
to
talk
about
this.
So
I'll
start
with
a
motion,
though,
motion
to
approve
motion
by
lollam
second
by
holleen
and
spencer
I'll,
let
you
kick
it
off.
P
P
You
know
the
interview
process,
background
checks,
all
that
the
hiring
process,
the
onboarding,
keeping
tracks
the
benefits
and
new
higher
paperwork
in
general,
ongoing
I'll
handle
things
like
reviews
and
performance
for
evals,
setting
up
goals,
learning
management
systems.
So
so
you
can
assign
different
things
to
to
learn
throughout
that
also
encompasses
our
payroll
portion
of
our
city,
including
time
and
attendance
time,
clocks
that
type
of
stuff
and
we'll
store
all
of
that
information
in
the
software,
so
that
the
employee
can
find
it
in
their
portal,
so
there'll
be
no
more.
P
Can
I
get
a
copy
of
my
w-2
or
my
timesheet
for
sheila
is
the
idea
because
it
should
be
available
online
to
everyone
and
then
the
the
other
piece
is
working
for
some
kind
of
integrations
with
our
financial
system,
so
that
those
things
talk
or
at
least
can
export
the
data
in
which
the
finance
software
can
read
it.
So
that's
a
big
piece
of
moving
over
payroll,
any
specific
questions.
A
B
A
E
P
Yep,
we'll
kind
of
and
what's
nice
about
this
software
is,
we
will
taper
down
to
of
a
cost
and
because
we
actually
kind
of
benefited
from
covid.
This
is
our
our
forever
price.
Once
we're
done
with
our
contract
here
will
be
that
forty
five
thousand
one
forty
four,
regardless
of
if
our
city
grows.
So
it's
a
that's
a
really
nice
feature
to
kind
of
know
that,
year
to
year,
from
a
budgeting
standpoint,
we
know
that
we're
locked
in.
J
P
Yeah
that
definitely
does,
and
just
so
you
know
this
was
by
far
the
most
affordable
software
that
we
could
find
that
that
was
robust
enough
to
handle
all
the
needs
we
got
left.
We
got
laughed
out
of
a
few
meetings
just
because
we
didn't
have.
We
had
budgeted
75
000
for
this,
and
and
there
was
just
that,
wasn't
going
to
fly
so
this
yes
to
answer.
P
P
J
I
remember
a
couple
years
ago
because
I
worked
with
you
guys
when
we
were
looking
at
park
and
rec
software
options.
I
know
one
of
the
concerns
was:
will
be
compatible
or
talk
to
other
software
that
we've
got
that
we're
implementing.
You
touched
on
it
briefly
a
while
ago
spencer,
but
any
concerns
about
compatibility
with
other
software
that
we
are
are
using
or
will
be
using.
P
No,
in
fact,
I'd
say
that
was
a
selling
feature
for
this
particular
software.
Their
their
desire
to
build
apis
or
connections
in
between
other
software
was
was
great
and
you
you'll
actually
see
them
kind
of
spell
that
out
in
the
agreement.
But
we
talked
a
lot
about
in
code
and
the
only
limitations
we'll
have
is
if
what
a
in
code
will
allow
us
to
connect
up
to.
P
But
I
feel
pretty
confident
encode
does
have
like
kind
of
a
encode
is
our
financial
software
and
that's
what
we'll
talk
about
next,
but
I
do
feel
pretty
confident
and
very
confident
I
should
say
about
that
integration,
because
it's
it's
very.
It's
very
needed.
Your
your
payroll
and
your
ap
process
needs
needs
to
be
connected
and
we
talked
a
lot
about.
A
J
A
P
Yeah,
so
this
has
been
a.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming
this
this
started
several
years
ago,
and
the
original
idea
was
actually
to
replace
our
software,
which
is
currently
tyler
encode,
but
many
many
years
or
a
couple
years
past
and
a
lot
of
things
have
happened
and
we
found
out.
You
know:
tyler's
got
a
pretty
darn
good
product
just
sitting
there.
We
just
have
the
very,
very
old
version
of
it.
P
So
what
we
found
out
is
what
makes
the
most
sense
for
us
is
just
upgrading
what
we
currently
use
and
it's
just
night
and
day
difference.
We
had
budgeted
sixty
thousand
dollars
for
this,
I
feel
like
kristin,
might
be
able
to
help
me
a
little
bit
more
on
this
one.
But
I'll
tell
you
what
things
that
I
noticed
from
my
I.t
brain
is
it's
going
to
change
some
workflows
both
of
these
softwares
that
we're
talking
about
they
affect
more
than
just
finance
and
hr.
P
They
affect
every
single
person
potentially
or
at
least
every
single
department
in
the
city.
So,
specifically
talking
about
the
finance
software,
one
of
the
processes
that
could
change
is
accounts
payable.
The
process
in
which
we
code,
our
bills
is,
is
you
know.
Currently
jen
gets
the
mail,
she
delivers
it
to
each
department.
The
department
head
gets
it
stamps
it
with
a
with
a
number
and
then
signs
it
hands
it
back
down
to
finance
jen
puts
it
in
the
computer.
Then
she
scans
it
in
for
a
copy.
P
That
process
could
be,
is
going
to
change
quite
significantly
to
the
point
where
the
bill
comes
in
jen
scans,
it
instantly
and
and
then
we
can
code
that
department,
heads
or
the
people
that
code
bills
we'll
be
able
to
code
that
electronically
and
just
eliminating
a
lot
of
that
paper
trail
going
back
and
forth,
there's
also
huge
advancements
in
the
way
our
budget
process
would
go,
and
I
know
I
know
kristin's
really
excited
about
that
and
then
just
some
other
small
things.
I
guess
we're
not
small,
but
integrated
document
management.
D
Thanks
spencer,
I
think
the
biggest
thing
from
the
finance
side
is:
you
touched
on
it
with
the
budget.
Our
current
budget
process
is
a
little
bit
lengthy,
not
only
for
finance,
but
also
for
all
the
departments.
In
general,
it's
a
lot
of
excel
back
and
forth.
The
one
feature
that's
going
to
be
exciting
for
the
departments
is
they
will
get
to
actually
view
their
budget.
They
can
see
the
last
five
years
of
information.
D
They'll
have
a
better
opportunity
to
look
at
what
they
truly
need
for
the
budget
and
request
it
that
way,
that's
exciting
for
the
budget.
The
other
piece
that,
I
think
will
be
very
helpful
for
the
department
is
feds
are
touched
on
it.
With
our
accounts
payable,
currently
department
heads
cannot
go
through
and
track
what's
happening
as
the
month
goes.
It's
a
one
time.
D
D
On
my
end
and
then
probably
the
other
big
thing
that
is
being
added,
it's
something
we've
never
had
and
it's
the
project
accounting
piece
that's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
new
if
you've
ever
seen
the
budget
for
the
city.
When
it
comes
to
our
capital
improvement
fund,
there
is
30
different
general
ledger
accounts
that
kind
of
get
all
over
the
place
and
they
move.
And
then
you
run
out
of
account
numbers
and
you're
kind
of
doing
some
shifting.
D
What
this
will
allow
us
to
do
is
keep
a
very
consistent
general
ledger
account,
but
identify
all
the
expenditures
by
giving
them
a
project
number.
That's
also
going
to
be
kind
of.
I
guess
I
think
it's
cool,
but
I,
like
numbers
it'll,
be
cool
on
the
fact
of
our
grant.
So
when
we
do
an
airport
grant,
we
can
see
all
of
our
expenditures,
but
then
we
can
also
tie
in
the
revenue
to
the
project.
So
we
will
be
able
to
track
what
we
truly
spent.
D
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much,
and-
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it
too-
it's
actually
pretty
exciting
what
kristen's
talking
about.
I
can
totally
get
it
and
it's
from
back.
In
the
day,
we
still
are
like
the
people
that
write
a
check
on
a
piece
of
paper,
and
then
we
get
once
a
month.
We
get
our
account
our
thing
in
the
mail.
You
know
that's
how
we
did
it
20
years
ago,
and
some
people
still
do
it
that
way.
It
works.
That's
how
we're
doing
it
now,
but
there's
been
a
lot
of
advances.
A
If
you
want
to,
you
can
look
at
your
checking
account
and
your
savings
account
and
all
of
your
equity
accounts
online
anytime.
You
want
and
see.
You
know
this
is
what
this
is
doing
for
us
as
an
organization,
so
I'm
really
excited
plus,
since
we're
staying
with
tyler,
it's
an
upgrade
cost,
not
a
total
new,
so
we
probably
got
it
for
a
bargain
compared
to
going
to
a
completely
new
company.
Am
I
right
about
that.
P
I
would
say
that
we,
the
up
the
upgrade
cost,
did
come
with
a
price,
but
I
do
think
it's
gonna,
it's
a
pretty
affordable
and
then
the
fact
nowadays,
a
lot
of
other
software's.
They
want
to
switch
that
sas
model
that
software
as
a
service,
where
tyler's
still
kind
of
we
would
still
host
it
ourselves
and
that's
gonna,
save
us
a
little
money
on
that
ongoing
operational
budget.
E
B
H
H
What
have
turned
out
to
be
contaminants
and
through
the
discussions
with
these
attorneys,
we've
settled
upon
this
agreement
whereby,
basically
we'll,
once
we,
if
the
council
approves
the
agreement
tonight,
they'll
proceed
with
investigating
whether
or
not
we
have
a
colorable
claim
related
to
this
oculus
film
forming
foam,
and
I
think
that
would
start
with
some
review
of
our
files
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
to
view
our
purchase,
records
and
and
the
like,
and
then
perhaps
some
soil
testing.
If
it
turns
out,
they
believe
we
would,
you
know,
have
a
claim.
H
J
H
H
Of
course,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they're
lawyers
that
work
on
contingency
fees,
and
so
if
it
turns
out,
we
are
entitled
to
some
sort
of
a
judgment
or
settlement.
In
this
case
they
would
take
33
percent
of
that
of
that
amount.
But
if
there
are
costs
incurred-
and
we
turn
out
to
not
have
a
claim-
or
we
turn
out
to
have
a
claimant,
but
but
we
don't
end
up
with
any
money
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
no
out-of-pocket
costs
to
the
city.
J
Thanks
matt,
not
understanding
what
this
is
all
about.
Necessarily,
is
there
any
chance
that
that
we
could
then,
in
turn,
be
a
defendant
named
as
defended
by
someone
else
who
might
feel
that
they
were
damaged
by
us
using
this
product
I
mean:
are
we
potentially
opening
a
can
of
worms
that
somebody
else
could
does
my
question
make
sense
what
I'm
asking
you
I
mean?
H
K
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
want
to
make
it
make
it
clear
to
the
public.
You
know
we
you'd
you'd,
ask
if
there
were
any
questions,
and
we
have
had
lengthy
discussion
about
this
at
another
meeting.
So,
dare
I
say,
executive
session,
so
we
do.
We
have
had
questions
and
answers
prior
to
this.
So
we're
not
just
agreeing
to
this
without
any
background.
A
H
Thank
you,
yeah
and,
if
I
may
mayor
sure,
yeah
but
councilman
biller
is
absolutely
correct.
I
mean
it's
no
secret
that
one
of
the
prime
purposes
of
the
council
going
into
executive
session
is
to
discuss
legal
matters
under
the
attorney-client
privilege
with
with
their
lawyer,
and
in
this
case
those
discussions
have
occurred.
So
the
public
can
rest
assured
that
the
council's
fully
vetted
this
issue
in
executive
session.
A
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
item
k
thanks
matt
item
k
is
review
of
the
continued
necessity
of
resolution
number
20-15
declaring
an
emergency
concerning
concerning
the
pandemic
outbreak
of
the
novel
coronavirus,
coven,
19
and
providing
for
responsive
measures
related
to
the
operations
of
the
city
and
the
protection
of
public
health,
and
I
I'm
not
going
to
ask
for
a
motion
unless
the
council
wants
to
discuss
it
and
do
something
different
than
we're
already
doing
and
I'll.
Let
matt
address
this
as
well.
H
H
It
gives
the
mayor
some
flexibility
to
institute
measures
if,
if
something
were
to
to
arise
that
would
require
some
immediate
action
of
some
sort
gives
the
mayor
some
ability
to
have
some
flexibility
with
the
personnel
policy
that
was
particularly
utilized
early
on.
Incidentally,
when
we
weren't
kind
of
sure
how
this
thing
was
gonna
proceed
discusses
that
arrangement
should
be
made
for
the
for
public
meetings
that
we're
all
well
familiar
with.
Now
that
this
teams
meetings
and
the
like
and
encourages
folks
to
follow
cdc
guidelines.
K
A
We
are
seeing
people
are
the
the
number
of
calls
are
increasing.
The
hospitalization
has
not
been
a
problem,
but
we
have
seen
a
lot
of
calls
and
we're
encouraging
people
to
call
2-1-1
if
they
have
questions
and
so
that
the
clinics
aren't
having
to
be
inundated
with
the
phone
calls
and
that's
probably
been
the
biggest
issue,
we're
seeing
quite
a
bit
of
action
at
the
clinics
people
getting
tested
and
our
numbers
did
go
up
and
the
rate
of
increase
in
cases
is
now
starting
to
drop.
A
We're
still
seeing
a
healthy
number
of
new
cases
every
day,
but
it's
dropping.
The
number
of
new
cases
is
dropping
every
day.
So
that's
good
news.
We're
the
pass
through
flights
to
chicago
are
not
affected,
but
we
are
on
a
quarantine
list
for
flights
to
chicago.
If
someone
flies
to
chicago
from
any
airport
in
south
dakota
right
now,
they
have
to
quarantine
for
two
weeks
when
they
get
there,
which
is
really
bad
news.
But
the
the
good
news
is:
we've
dropped
down
below
the
threshold,
at
least
for
one
day.
A
We
have
to
maintain
for
two
weeks
or
two
weeks
of
average
running
total
of
new
cases
per
day
in
our
state
below
a
certain
level
to
be
removed
from
that
quarantine
list,
and
it
looks
like
we're
headed
in
that
direction.
So
hopefully
it'll
only
be
a
couple
more
weeks
and
then
we'll
be
back
where
we
were
councilman
roby.
J
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
fully
understanding.
I
think,
in
light
of
the
brookings
city
councils
going
through
down
there
last
week
and
again
tonight
is
my
understanding.
I
don't
want
to
go
down
that
road,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand.
Currently
we
have
no
restrictions
in
place
within
the
community.
Is
that
correct.
J
Okay
recommendations
but
no
restrictions
within
the
last
couple
weeks.
I've
had
the
same
question
asked
of
me
from
both
different
perspectives.
One
is
that
why
doesn't
our
mayor
implement
a
mandatory
masking
and
including
business
shutdowns?
I
said:
well,
she
hasn't
got
that
authority
to
do
it.
I've
had
the
other
other
side.
That
says
I
mean
making
the
point
from
the
opposite.
J
I
mean
is
concerned
that
the
mayor
may
have
the
ability
to
do
to
do
those
sort
of
measures
without
counsel
input,
and
I've
explained
that
side
of
it
that
no
of
that's
not
the
way
we
operate.
So
I
just
want
to
make
it
make
those
points
clear,
because
I'm
hearing
the
same
sort
of
comments
made
from
both
sides
of
both
ends
of
the
spectrum.
A
Right,
thank
you.
I
am
too,
and
I
people
are
concerned
and
around
us
we're
seeing
issues
arise
and
we
did
have
some
restrictions
in
place
early
on
and
there
were
communities
that
didn't
have
restrictions
and
people
did
take
it
upon
themselves
in
those
communities
that
didn't
have
restrictions
to
restrict
themselves,
and
I
think
that
we
have
a
public
that
wants
to
do
the
right
thing
and
does
the
right
thing.
I
mean
if
you
notice
we're
spread
out
in
this
room
and
people
some
people
are
participating.
A
So
does
anybody
want
to
make
a
motion
not
seeing
that?
So
thank
you.
We're
going
to
move
on
to
old
business
and
we
do
have
an
item,
a
under
old
business
approval
to
finish
the
two
alleys
in
the
downtown
footprint,
to
complete
burial
of
utilities
and
adding
a
hard
surface
to
the
remaining
unfinished
areas
at
taxpayer
expense.
A
And
before
I
get
a
motion
on
that,
I
would
like
to
let
people
know
that
I
did
get
a
request
from
municipal
utilities
to
remove
the
words
burial
of
utilities
and
because
we
we
don't
want
to
tie
their
hands.
They
have
a
separate
board
and
the
burial
of
utilities
is,
it
could
be
extraordinarily
expensive.
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
back
in
2012,
approximately
four
of
us
that
were
on
the
city,
council
or
remainders
became
city
council
members
were
on
the
urban
renewal
board.
At
that
point
in
time,
the
downtown
area
had
really
struggled
in
a
variety
of
ways.
It
it
was
the
downtown
had
lots
of
empty
buildings.
C
C
There
was
some
leadership
there.
I
think
mayor
thorson
decided
that
we
were
going
to
get
things
done.
I
think
and
showed
some
leadership
in
saying
we
were
going
to
get
these
done
and
in
my
estimation-
and
I
don't
know
if
randy
tupper
and
john
solomon
were
here
to
aren't
here
tonight,
but
beth
manty
was
going
to
speak
tonight
about
her
understanding
of
it
and
she
called
me
and
said
she
was
ill
so,
but
it
was
just
a
whole
idea
that
all
of
the
streets
and
alleys
and
the
footprint
downtown
were
going
to
be
finished
it.
C
Well,
those
things
got
done
and
they've
been
done
on
a
timely
matter
manner,
and
I
don't
think
anybody
has
argued
about
the
timeliness
of
it
and
now
we're
at
the
point-
and
I
think
heath
has
put
a
map-
and
I
think,
map
heath
for
that.
But
heath
has
a
map
of.
There
are
actually
three
alleys
that
are
not
finished
in
the
downtown.
C
The
footprint
of
downtown-
and
I
don't
know
if
michael
has
changed
his
mind,
but
at
one
time
he
suggested
that
maybe
in
his
area
right
by
his
place
that
they
wouldn't
want
the
alley
done
because
of
a
some
sort
of
a
water
problem
that
it
might
create.
And
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
been
resolved
and
so
heath
has
the
alleys
marked
here
of
the
ones
that
are
that
have
been
redone
and
you
can
see.
There
are
many
many
that
are
redone
in
this,
and
there
are
just
a
very
very
few.
C
C
I
would
request
that
they
would
just
speak
to
this
as
their
recollection
comes
about
this,
because
I
it
was
kind
of
it
was
a
group
effort
and
we
they
put
four
people
on
there-
that
didn't
have
any
any
real
stake
in
downtown
and
told
us
to
make
a
difference
down
there,
and
I
think
councilman
lalum
will
also
speak
to
this,
because
he
has
a
stake
in
it
also.
So
I
I
are
either
one
of
those
two
fellas
there
tonight.
A
A
None
of
those
were
gravel
alleys,
except
for
there's
one
that
utilities
did
in
block
15
and
they
they
did
some
utility
upgrade
and
that
wasn't
one
of
the
engineering
department
projects,
the
red
are
the
alleys
that
are
paved
that
have
not
been
redone.
So
there
are
more
than
three
that
we
haven't
redone.
A
A
The
the
issue
has
come
with
confusion
on
the
staff.
The
alley
in
block
33
is
entirely
residents,
single-family
homes,
the
alley
in
block
34
has
one
business
and
the
rest
are
single-family
homes
and
the
alley
in
block
six
is
east
and
west
gravel,
north
and
south
pavement,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
asphalt
or
concrete,
but
neither
of
those
have
been
redone,
but
that's
entirely
a
commercial
block.
So
the
the
council
never
took
action
on
this,
so
the
staff
was
confused
about
what
they
were
supposed
to
do.
A
So
we
we
did
an
assessment
of
not
an
assessment.
We
did
an
enumeration
of
what
the
alley
surfaces
were
in
the
urban
renewal
district
boundary,
which
is
the
yellow
boundary
line.
The
urban
renewal
district
contains
areas
which
are
residential
like
that
block
33,
which
has
a
gravel
alley.
That's
all
residential
there
isn't
any
commercial
in
it.
In
fact,
I
think
it's
zoned
residential,
it's
not
even
zoned,
it's
not
even
zone
commercial,
the
rest
of
them.
A
I
think
it's
just
that
block
13
and
yes,
the
two
edges
on
the
bottom
are
zone
residential
and
everything
else
is
zoned,
commercial
or
industrial,
and
so
the
the
staff
would
appreciate
knowing
what
the
council's
intention
is.
Are
are
you
wanting
to
do
all
the
alleys
in
the
urban
renewal
district
boundary,
even
if
they're
just
residential
in
use
or
are
you
you
know
just
make,
make
sure
that
your
motion
is
clear
and
municipal
utilities
ask
that
you
not
obligate
them
in
your
motion?
G
Very
quick
just
to
clarify,
because
I
got
mentioned
in
the
email
and
just
now
too.
What
I
had
said
is
just
that
so
to
be
clear,
my
my
house
is
on
one
of
these
alleys.
That's
that's
why
I
made
the
comment
about
their
100
almost
100
year
old
houses.
The
alley
is
currently
unpaved.
Most
of
ours.
Don't
have
some
pumps
because
we
have
a
very
dry
neighborhood,
so
just
making
sure
if
that
decision
was
made
to
pave
it,
that
it
wouldn't
have
negative
implications
for
those
property
owners.
G
N
Okay,
well,
first
of
all,
thank
you,
mayor
and
council
for
allowing
me
to
come
up
here
and
visit
randy
tupper,
former
council
member
and
former
president
of
the
urban
renewal
board.
If
you
look
on
your
map,
actually
these
projects
started
way
before
dan,
even
recollects.
There
started
in
2011,
and
part
of
that
was
just
the
very
beginning
of
getting
rid
of
some
utilities
and
redoing
the
alley
at
the
time.
N
N
The
city
really
stepped
up
the
plate
and
we
did
it
pretty
heavily
for
quite
a
while.
I
don't
recollect
anything
anytime
that
anybody
said
that
I
mean
that
the
plan
was
to
keep
doing
it.
You
know
one
section
every
year
I
never
recollect
anybody
ever
saying
that
we
weren't
going
to
do
ones
that
weren't
improved
to
begin
with.
If
you
look
at
the
difference,
a
lot
of
those
things
have
done
to
the
downtown.
N
You
know
we
spent.
I
spent
four
years
on
the
urban
renewal
board
and
didn't
see
a
lot
of
things
accomplished
other
than
we
accomplished
a
few
things
with
parking.
We
accomplished
a
few
things
with
getting
that
first
street
to
go
back
to
one
way
you
know,
and
then
you
look
at
what
the
now
switching
camp
I
mean
that's
been
a
huge
impact
on
downtown,
so
I
would
hate
to
see
the
council.
N
A
Okay,
thank
you,
and
the
municipal
utilities
said
that
they
there
was
a
number
that
they
agreed
to.
It
wasn't
the
entire
urban
renewal
district
boundary
and
they
but
they've.
They
felt
that
not
that
they're
not
willing
to
do
more,
but
that
they
have
met
the
original
commitment
to
do
a
certain
number
of
alleys
over
a
certain
number
of
years,
and
so
we
just
want
to
be
respectful
of
the
utilities
department
and
not
have
the
council
demand
that
they
underground
something.
That's
going
to
be.
N
A
No
and
it's
because
we
have
it,
you
know
I
did
the
calculation
in
2014
or
13,
that
we
have
four
million
dollars
worth
of
rope,
paving
to
do
to
pave
our
gravel
streets,
not
our
alleys,
our
gravel
streets
and
some
of
those.
We
get
lots
of
calls
from
people
wanting
us
to
pave
and
they're
actual
streets
with
high
traffic
on
them.
Would
we
pay
for
a
street
to
be
paved
before?
A
We
would
pay
for
an
alley
or
should
a
downtown
alley
with
hardly
any
traffic
have
a
higher
priority
than
a
public
street,
which
is
gravel
that
the
prop
adjacent
property
owners
don't
want
to
pay
for,
and
that's
a
a
step
that
the
council
can
order.
That
done,
and
that's
that's
tough,
though,
on
the
adjacent
property
owners
to
ask
them
to
pay
for
it,
and
so
those
roads
remain
gravel,
which
ones
are
you
gonna
do
first
yeah.
N
A
N
N
A
N
A
K
A
couple
of
things
randy,
we
I
don't
know
if
you're
aware
we
and
dan's
probably
informed
you.
We
do
have
a
gravel
roads
committee
we've
met
some
and
you
know
that
it's
it's
been
a
while,
but
you
know
I
agree
that
these
are
two
different
things.
I
think
we
we
have
to
view
this
in
in
the
in
the
downtown
renovation.
If
we're
looking
at
that,
that's
one
thing:
we
have
to
look
as
a
separate
entity
versus-
and
I
know
you're
talking
about
12th
street,
most
likely.
N
N
N
E
E
You
know
the
frankly
the
way
that
it
looked
because
of
those
particular
items,
and
I
had
vested
interest
in
it
as
well,
because
my
building
was
right
off
the
midway
alley
across
from
the
courthouse
where
you
could
lose
a
tire
at
the
time.
I'm
not
gonna
lie,
so
that
was
where
I
came
to,
and
I
know
that
the
utilities
then
the
renewal
board,
both
in
in
general
and
I
did
sit
at
the
actual
council
meeting
at
that
time
there
was
never,
which
you
know
which
alley
was
going
to
get
done.
E
It
was
we're
going
to
take
alleys
and
actually
what
happened
is
utility
said,
though
these
are
certain
valleys
that
need
to
be
done.
First,
based
on
how
their
wiring
was
ran
because
they
I
wanted
them
obviously
to
the
midway
alley
first,
which
was
probably
the
worst
alley
at
the
time,
but
because
of
how
their
wiring
ran
and
their
grids,
they
actually
took
the
one
that's
over
by
the
paint
the
plane
painted.
E
Based
on
where
the
wiring
ran,
and
they
had
to
do
it
in
certain
order
to
get
it
to
work,
but
that
was
that
was
the
intent
of
it
and
that's
why
they
did
it
and
they
allowed
a
certain
dollar
amount.
And
you
tell
they're
and
the
city
went
along
to
the
same
thing.
So
that's
where
they
came
from
yeah
they've
been
doing
alley
since
obviously
11,
but
that
wasn't.
When
you
know,
h2020
group
came
forward.
N
N
E
B
N
D
N
N
Could
be
I
I
can't
remember
the
amount,
but
you
know,
and
and
it
was
always
that
hard
determination-
where
do
you
start
so
pretty
soon?
It
just
fell
off
the
budget,
and
I
would
I
would
hate
to
see
this
happen
with
the
remaining
alleys
downtown,
especially
the
money.
The
city's
invested
already
and
and
we've
got
developers
invested
money
downtown.
L
Mayor
this
is
heath
if
I
may
just
go
ahead
heath.
I
was
just
going
to
add
to
christmas
point
since
I've
been
here,
I'm
not
familiar
with
what
we
had
budgeted
prior
to
that,
but
we
have,
as
you
can
see
here
in
2019,
performed
alley
improvements
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
We
had
money
slated
for
this
year
that
we
ended
up
shifting
our
alley
plans
again
due
to
just
staff,
not
clearly
being
on
the
page
of
what's
intended
for
this
area.
L
So
we
postponed
this
one
kind
of
waiting
for
this
discussion
for
further
guidance,
but
then
put
that
money
towards
our
commitments
that
we
made
otherwise,
on
the
lofts
improvements
and
the
alley
reconstruction
we
had
to
perform
there
so
from
a
staff
standpoint,
these
t-alleys
in
2018,
we
we
did
a
two
alleys.
These
t
alleys.
We
had
budgeted
about
120
000
to
perform
those
the
palace
was
scheduled.
J
Well,
I
I
think
he
you
just
said
what
I
was
going
that
because
I
I
was
pretty
sure
that
we
did
have
something
budgeted
a
regular
basis,
so
you
you've
explained
a
better
night
I
could
have
saw.
That
was
my
question.
I
guess
my
question
is
what
what
are
options
tonight,
this
being
an
old
business
item,
I'd
like
to
see
us
finish
the
project
too,
that
we
that
we've
gotten
so
close
to
as
far
as
finishing
off
our
gravel
alleys
now,
the
residential
ones.
J
I
don't
feel
strongly
about
because
they
are
residential
again,
why
they
ended
up
in
the
urban
renewal
district
gets
back
to
the
the
boundaries
that
I
pointed
out
a
while
ago,
but
you
know
that
leaves
essentially
one
alley
left
yet
to
get
paid,
and
so
so
what
are
options
tonight,
this
being
an
old
business
item?
I
don't
think
any
of
us
expect
us
this
to
happen
this
year
anymore,
but
what?
What
are
options
now?
I
guess
I'm
asking
purely
totally
out
of
ignorance
as
far
as
what
our
options
are
tonight.
A
I
I
I
A
C
I
don't
have
any
heartburn
at
all
with
the
residential
one,
especially
like
number
33
34,
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that
we
have
a
business
there
and
I
happen
to
know
which
business
it
is,
but
that's
not
important
that
it.
There
is
a
business
located
in
number
34
and
so
number
6
and
34
33.
I
understand
the
logic
being
a
residential
area
and
it's
on
the
outer
skirts
of
the
footprint
of
downtown,
but
those
two
for
sure.
C
C
If
it's
that,
if
it's
that
much
of
a
residential
area,
but
I
would
suggest
that
we
would
finish
6
and
34
first
and
follow
up
with
2,
1
and
13
later,
and
I
didn't
put
a
timeline
on
it,
but
I'm
a
little
nervous
not
doing
that.
Because
heath
just
said
we
do
have
a
hundred
some
thousand
dollars
put
aside,
which
would
take
care
of
six
and
34
by
the
way.
A
I
B
B
You
know
in
2022,
based
on
different
construction
of
downtown
property,
so
you
know
that
would
be
one
much
like
the
loss
was
where
they're
digging
in
the
alleys
to
get
foundations
in.
So
that
would
be
a
time
I
think
to
look
at
that
one,
and
we
would
certainly
know
more
on
this.
This
upcoming
spring.
H
A
A
L
I
guess
yeah,
madam
mayor:
it's
heath
go
ahead.
I
would
just
act
with
that
same
thing.
What
we
would
do
when
we're
programming
these
just
like
when
we
held
off
on
the
palace
alley.
We
actually
had
this
programmed
and
designed
and
surveyed
and
ready
to
go,
but
then,
when
the
news
of
that
potential
development
came
through,
we
postponed
it.
L
K
Will
that
will
that
be
somewhat
contingent
on
what
the
utilities
want
to
do
because
they're
going
to
have
to
come
and
play?
I
mean
we
can
say
all
these
things,
but
I
heard
what
you
said
about
utility,
but
I
think
they're
going
to
have
a
lot
to
say
about.
You
know
where
you
know
and
they've
probably
got
utilities
that
are
probably
in
in
worse
shape
in
certain
spots
than
there
and
others.
E
And
typically,
what
was
done
last
time
unless
we're
waiting
for
a
second
on
that,
but
it
would
be,
utilities
would
kind
of
lead
the
ball
on
that
one
because
they
want
to
get
their
stuff
into
the
ground
first
and
then
we
pave
after
that's
how
they
did
the
other
alleys.
So
that's
that's
why
I
didn't
want
to
tie
them
into
that,
so
they
could.
They
could
say.
These
are
the
ones
that
we
need
to
do.
K
E
B
L
That
to
that
point,
both
councilmen
were
talking
about
there
you're
exactly
right,
and
I
should
have
mentioned
that
too.
Aside
from
the
development
notices,
we
would
be
coordinating
with
wmu
as
well
on
any
plans
they
have
for
any
underground
work,
coordinating
which
alleys
you
know
we
we
are
anticipating
doing
bouncing
that
off
then
making
sure
they're
they're
in
check
with
it
and
if
not
again,
we
shift
that
plan
and
modify
accordingly.
So
that's
definitely
something
we
would
do.
J
E
J
E
E
E
E
N
If
you
look
back
what
the
utilities
have
done
with
the
city,
I
mean
it's
been
a
great
partnership
for
the
downtown.
I
mean,
I
don't
think
the
if
you
say
you're
going
to
do
number
seven
next
year
in
the
utilities
say:
we've
got
something
planned
for
three
years:
they're
going
to
be
fluid
with
you
and
move
back
and
forth.
So
they've
been
great
to
work
with,
and
I
just
like
to
say
I
hate
to
see
this
get
pushed
back
into
the
gravel
street
project.
N
E
Well
and
the
business
owners
to
give
them
the
credit
they
have
really,
yes,
they've
really
updated
their
buildings
and
frankly,
everyone
thinks
about
the
street
view,
but
the
rear
view
you're
driving
down
an
alley
is
just
as
important
when
you,
when
you
have
a
building-
and
I
think
the
business
owners
and
building
owners
have
done
a
fantastic
job
of
taking
that.
Taking
that
and
running
with
it
as
well,
I
mean
when
they
redid
the
one
by
the
laundry.
N
A
K
K
N
A
P
A
So
we
well
they
don't.
Normally
I
mean
they
work
with
us
that,
like
randy
said
they,
you
know
that
that's
been
a
conversation,
they
wouldn't
rip
up
an
alley
that
we
won't
be
able
to
get
to
right
away.
So
you
know
they'd
we'd,
talk
to
them
and
we'd
agree
upon
which
alleys
we're
going
to
do
so,
and
that's
that's
how
that
works
and
if.
E
I
mean
on
josh
on
that
one
when
they
did
a
couple
of
those
alleys.
They
had
to
do
two
alleys
at
once,
based
on
where
the
electrical
service
ended.
So
I
believe
that
was
the
tle
by
the
quote:
unquote
bar
block
they
there
was
that
that
went
around
the
corner,
so
they'd
do
that
one
at
twice
at
the
same
time,
so
they
don't
think.
C
G
More
than
anything
reason.
I'm
doing
this
is
just
let's
talk
about
the
motion
delay
on
the
table
being
misused,
because
the
motion
delay
on
the
table
is
not
debatable,
requires
only
a
majority
vote
and
has
high
precedence.
Members
are
too
often
tempted
to
use
it
to
kill
the
main
motion.
This
is
an
improper
use
of
the
motion
to
lay
on
the
table
and
an
example
of
railroading.
G
G
Another
misuse
of
the
motion
away
on
the
table
occurs
when
members
confuse
it
with
the
motion
to
postpone
to
a
certain
time,
often
a
member
who
wishes
to
postpone
a
main
motion
until
later
in
the
same
meeting
or
to
the
following
meeting
uses
the
motion
to
lay
on
the
table
rather
than
the
proper
motion.
The
motion
to
postpone
there's
no
such
thing
as
the
motion
to
lay
on
the
table
until
the
motion
delay
on
the
table
is
one
of
the
parliamentary
motions
that
is
used
too
often
and
hardly
ever
in
fact
never
properly.
G
Its
purpose
gives
it
a
unique
power,
but
the
power
provides
the
temptation
for
misuse.
So
what's
the
proper
use
of
the
motion
delay
on
the
table
motion
would
be
appropriate
for
a
medical
or
meeting
emergency
or,
let's
suppose
that
during
debate
the
governor
arrives,
the
motion
to
lay
on
the
table
would
allow
the
body
to
quickly
set
aside
the
pending
business
to
allow
the
governor
to
address
the
organization
after
the
governor
leaves.
The
body
can
take
the
issue
from
the
table,
so
I'm
just
asking
that
we
take
it
off
the
table.
G
A
B
G
Oh,
I
just
I
felt
like
last
time
we
had
discussed
it
quite
a
bit.
I
know
that
we've
addressed
it
on
multiple
levels.
Essentially,
the
idea
is
just
that
you'd
have
a
liaison
to
the
mayor's
office.
We
already
have
one
to
the
police
department
she's
already
in
that
position,
doing
it
as
far
as
we
know
very
well,
she's.
G
A
Was
to
separate
them
and
have
the
council
ratify
it?
It's
just
to
give.
Sometimes
people
of
lgbtq
status
are
nervous
to
bring
their
concern
to
the
city
organization
because
they
are
often
subject
to
bullying
or
humiliation
and
so
having
a
liaison
doesn't
give
them
any
quicker
or
different
service.
It
just
gives
them
a
friendly
person
to
talk
to
that
will
be
sympathetic
and
possibly
protect
them
from
what
they
might
fear
as
potential
harassment.
So
I
do
think
it's
a
marginalized
community.
A
That's
why
I
made
the
appointments
myself
earlier
last
year
or
year
before,
whenever
that
was,
and
I
I
think
that
it's
just
a
friendly
gesture,
there's
no
hidden
agenda
to
do
anything
other
than
give
a
marginalized
group
of
people
a
friendly
ear
to
talk
to.
So
that's
why
I
did
it
and
I
I'm
sorry
that
it
created
so
much
commotion.
I
didn't
think
that
would
happen.
I
didn't
it's
not
legislation,
it's
not
a
new
rule.
No
one
has
to
go
through
anybody
to
come
to
me.
A
I
I
I
Some
of
them
are
just
community-wide
and
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
serious
everyone
was
to
it,
but
I
don't
know
how
we
could
tell
someone
no
and
someone
yes,
so
it's
I
think
it's
just
best
to
not
get
into
that
situation
right
from
the
outset
and
just
continue
with
business
as
usual,
which
is
any
concerned.
Citizen
in
watertown
could
go
and
request
a
meeting
with
the
mayor
or
the
city
council
or
come
up
and-
and
I
understand
that
they
probably
won't
talk
publicly,
but
I
know
several
people
have
come
to
your
office.
I
A
Thank
you
anyone
else
I
mean
I'm.
The
mayor
and
I've
been
pretty
clear
that
I'm
a
safe
person
to
talk
to
the
council
ratifying
that
would
keep
it
on
there
until
the
council
would
rescind
it.
So
if
we
get
a
different
mayor
next
year,
there's
still,
I
don't
know
if
that
person
would
be
safe
or
not,
but
the
liaisons
would
remain
unless
the
council
took
them
back.
Councilman
hoyer.
B
A
G
So
for
me
I
don't
go
with
the
slippery
slope
logic
and
it's
okay,
that
you
know.
We
don't
see
on
the
same
level
on
that,
but
I
welcome
any
discussion
if
somebody
felt
like
they
needed
a
liaison
to
the
mirror.
For
me,
this
is
slightly
different
than
the
fact
that
it's
a
personal
identification
thing.
You
know
it's
not
like
an.
G
Organization
way
that
if
you
went
to
a
doctor's
office-
and
you
were
being
checked
out
for
something
as
a
female
and
you
had
a
male
doctor-
and
you
didn't
feel
comfortable
with
a
male
doctor-
you
could
ask
for
someone
else
to
be
in
the
room
with
you
or
whatever
you
felt
like,
would
protect
you
or
your
rights
make
you
feel
comfortable
and
safe,
and
you
know
if
my
daughter
needed
something
like
that.
I
would
be
there
to
you
know
asking
for
that
same
treatment.
G
So
I
guess
that's
where
I
sit
on
it
and
I
I
don't
see
how
it
changes
the
day
to
day
for
most
things,
just
because
I'm
not
a
member
of
that
community,
but
I
still
feel
like
if
that
generates
a
safer
feeling
for
somebody
and
facilitates
them
to
be
able
to.
I
don't
know
discourse
as
they
feel
freely
or
more
comfortable.
Then
I'm
good
with
that.
C
Mayor,
I
I
know
that
you're
a
very
open
person
and
that
people
can
come
into
your
office
at
their
will
and
sit
and
visit
with
you.
I
agree
with
the
other
two
gentlemen.
That
said
that
to
me
it
just
opens
up
something
that
I'm
not
sure
that
you
want.
I
think
you
want
it
to
be
open
and
I
think
if
somebody
comes
in
and
says
you
will
do
this,
we
would
set
you
up
for
something
that
you
probably
wouldn't
even
want.
So
that
would
be
my
thought
on
it.
N
C
B
B
G
A
G
But
yeah-
I
just
I
think
it's
worth
discussing,
especially
since
we
just
did
a
study
on
like
walkability
and
stuff
and
we're
looking
at
it
in
the
downtown.
We
might
as
well
look
at
those
other
areas.
I
I
know
that
my
ward
has
a
lot
of
lacking
sidewalks.
I'm
sure
that
other
parts
of
the
town
that
are
a
little
older
have
these
troubles
too.
So.
B
G
J
Two
things
to
report
from
the
utilities
end
of
it,
you
heard
the
numbers
from
kristin.
In
the
budget
proposal
for
2021,
we
did
receive
a
two
percent
increase
plus
another
250
thousand
dollars
for
2021.,
that
was
100,
essentially
150,
000
dollar
increase
over
and
above
2020,
so
grateful
for
that,
and
secondly,
you've
heard
me
make
reference
on
a
number
of
different
occasions
about
lining
up
a
meeting
with
a
contingent
from
our
council
as
well
as
their
board,
and
we
met
on
august
28th.
J
There
was
a
councilman
lollum
and
helene
and
myself,
along
with
the
mayor
and
kristin
visiting
with
their
board
chair
and
vice
chair
and
two
of
their
staff
good
meeting.
I
think
it
was
you
know
they
had
a
chance
to
hear
board
members
and
council
members
had
a
chance
to
hear
from
each
other's
perspective.
K
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
folks
for
for
taking
that
initiative
and
doing
that,
but
I
got
to
tell
you
I'm
kind
of
surprised
that
we
haven't
done
this
in
the
past.
I
mean
this
is
something
that
should
be
should
have
been
ongoing
for
a
number
of
years,
and
so
I
hope
we
can
how
many
board
members
were
at
that
meeting.
Two
just.