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From YouTube: Public Works, Finance & Safety Meeting - 08-17-2020
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Public Works, Finance & Safety Meeting - 08-17-2020
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A
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B
We're
we're
working
remotely.
It's
been
one
of
those
things
where
we
yeah,
I
mean
we
have
enough
offices
around
the
country
where
we
can't
set
sort
of
a
standard
practice
for
the
company-wide.
But
but
you
know
we're
we're
starting
to
filter
back
into
the
office
here
and
there,
but
largely
still
remote.
B
D
D
D
C
All
right
did
you
get
adam
adam
just
walked
in
the
room.
C
E
C
C
F
A
Sure
there
is
a
lot
of
pedestrian
traffic
and
there's
a
lot
of
sort
of
what
I
would
call
near
near
car
wreck
type
incidences,
and
I
just
have
some
my
you
know-
concerns
about
that.
I'd
like
to
bring
that
up
so
at
a
later
date.
We
could
get
it
on
the
schedule,
discuss,
maybe
some
potential
solutions.
Perhaps
a
four-way
stop
at
first
avenue,
southeast
and
south
maple.
C
A
Is
it
today's
meeting,
yes
at
the
5
30
I'll,
just
I
won't
bother
taking
any
more
of
anybody's
time.
Thank
you.
C
B
C
I
don't
think
so
I'll
ask
again:
is
there
anyone
opposed
to
the
approval
of
the
agenda
if
so
signify
by
saying,
nay,
none
opposed
motion
carries
item.
6
is
the
regular
agenda
and
a
is
the
first
item:
approval
of
addendum
number
one
to
the
professional
services
agreement
for
services
associated
with
the
airport
terminal
design
project
number
1927
with
meet
and
hunt
in
the
amount
of
eight
thousand
four
hundred
fifty
five
dollars
authorizing
the
mayor
to
sign
all
applicable
documents.
C
G
Absolutely
thank
you
mayor.
The
addendum
before
the
council
tonight
relates
to
the
design
contract
that
we
have
with
meet
and
haunt.
There
are
consultants
that
we've
been
working
on
the
new
airport
terminal
design
with
and
that
that's
progressed
now.
We've
seen
a
lot
of
very
good
progression
with
that
project,
we're
to
a
point
where
the
terminal
is
out
for
bid.
It
actually
opens
this
week.
G
The
bids
do
open
this
week,
but
what
this
addendum
specifically
relates
to
is
the
contractual
services
with
meet
and
hunt,
and
some
of
the
subcontractual
services
they've
had
to
hire
out
since
entering
into
the
original
contract
with
them.
If
you
remember,
the
original
design
contract
was
a
little
over
3.1
million.
This
is
addendum
number
one
to
that
contract.
G
I
know
that
mitch
walker
with
meet
and
hunt
is
online
I'll
hand
it
off
to
him,
and
he
can
explain
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
about
the
the
cause
and
the
logic
behind
the
addendum,
which
is
in
the
tune
of
forty
eight
thousand
four
hundred
fifty
five
dollars.
B
Absolutely
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
sit
in
front
of
the
council.
I
guess
by
video,
wanted
to
address
the
addendum,
as
heath
had
mentioned.
The
the
bulk
of
this
project
of
this
addendum
is
related
to
the
landscaping
portion
of
the
project
in
and
around
the
terminal
building
proper.
So
when
we
partnered
with
helms
engineering
out
of
aberdeen,
it
was,
they
would
be
doing
civil
landside
and
airside
and
and
the
meet
and
hunt
team
would
be
doing
the
terminal
building.
B
What
we
also
realized,
then,
is
that
you
know
there
there
were
going
to
be
a
lot
of
landscaping.
Components
within
that
especially
landside
site
that
we
wanted
to
address,
and
so
we
reached
out
to
confluence
out
of
sioux
falls
and
just
putting
together
a
proposal.
B
B
If
I
have
the
ability
to
here
and
again,
this
is
representative
of
of
you
know,
roughly
the
30
well
of
the
large
portion
of
about
38
000
worth
of
design
services,
the
other
two
are
relatively
minor.
They
are
related
to
specifically
baggage
handling
security,
so
bhs
is
what
they
call
that,
and
that
is
just
the
tsa
moving
baggage
around
getting
it
screened
and
then
out
to
the
out
to
the
tug
drive.
B
B
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
discuss
anything
further.
If
there
are
any
questions-
and
you
know,
can
walk
through
kind
of
what
you
know,
what
the
landscaping
design
is
addressing
the
needs
that
we
felt
were
there
and
why
we
reached
out
and
or
any
questions
related
to
baggage
handling
or
geotech
as
well.
G
Yes,
thank
you
for
mentioning
that
this.
This
was
brought
before
the
airport
board
last
week
and
they
did
recommend
approval
for
the
change
order
for
the
addendum.
C
D
C
Item
b
is
approval
of
a
joint
funding
agreement
for
the
operation
and
maintenance
of
gaging
stations
for
the
upper
big
sioux
river
flood
forecasting
system
with
the
united
states
geological
survey
usgs
in
the
amount
of
twenty
three
thousand
six
hundred.
Seventy
dollars
have
a
motion
by
helene
seconded
by
bill
hauer,
and
I
would
like
heath
to
tell
us
about
this
as
well.
G
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
This
is
an
annual
agreement
that
it's
related
to
the
operation
and
maintenance
of
the
river
gauges
that
we
have
in
cooperation
with
usgs
along
the
big
sioux
river,
both
upstream
near
and
then
downstream,
of
our
community
watertown.
G
This,
like
I
said
this
is
an
annual
agreement,
so
this
comes
before
the
council
every
year.
It
is
something
that's
budgeted
for,
and
the
city
ends
up
through
this
agreement,
paying
for
seven
of
the
12
gauging
stations,
the
other
five
are
covered
by
our
cost
share
partners,
which
include
the
usgs
themselves,
along
with
cottington
county
lake,
kopeska,
water
project
district
and
also
south
dakota,
denr,
pretty
straightforward
agreement.
Here
I
do
have
the
map
of
the
gauging
station
locations
I'll
share
just
for
reference.
G
These
ones
that
are
outlined
in
the
red
box
indicate
the
the
gauging
stations
that
the
city's
cost
share
goes
towards
maintaining
throughout
the
year
and
that's
more
or
less
a
hands-off
maintenance
for
the.
As
far
as
the
city
is
concerned,
roger
may
have
more
knowledge
on
any
of
our
use
of
those
gauges,
but
it's
pretty
well
usgs.
Maintaining
those
for
us
ensuring
that
they're
operating
correctly
the
readings
that
we're
getting
make
sense.
G
We've
actually
gone
through
recent
discussions
with
them
over
the
last
two
years
with
the
high
water
events
that
we
had
last
year
and
then
the
the
threat
or
the
likelihood
that
we
had
this
spring,
that
we
thought
we
were
going
to
see
a
little
worse
outcome,
for
we
were
in
close
contact
with
usgs
regarding
the
the
read
out
of
these
gauges
and
the
units
that
they
are
read
in
and
and
trying
to
get
them
on
a
uniform
and
consistent
basis.
D
G
It
is
councilman
vilhauer
and
a
lot
of
our
flood
preventive
measures,
and
our
action
plans
are
linked
directly
to
the
readings
that
we're
getting
at
some
of
these
gauges.
E
C
C
All
those
opposed
signified
by
saying
nay,
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Item
c
is
approval
of
a
feasibility
of
design
agreement
for
services
associated
with
the
potential
advanced
biological
nutrient
recovery
technology
to
be
installed
at
the
phosphorus
removal
facility,
with
clear
as
water
recovery
in
the
amount
not
to
exceed
fifty
thousand
dollars
authorizing
the
mayor
to
sign
all
applicable
documents,
a
motion
by
vilhauer
in
a
second
by
helene,
and
I
will
ask
heath
to
introduce
this.
Please.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
This
is
a
a
kind
of
a
information
finding
study.
That
is
really
the
next
step,
that's
necessary
in
moving
forward
with
any
phosphorus
removal
efforts
or
investments
that
we
continue
to
make
at
the
lake,
as
a
council
may
or
may
not
be
aware
over
the
past
few
years,
several
years
through
some
of
the
studies
we've
done
and
most
recently,
the
lake
compesca
master
plan,
phosphorus
removal
tends
to
be
one
of
the
highest
community
interests
and
seeing
and
helping
the
the
clarity
of
the
lake
waters
that
we
have
out
at
lincoln
pesca.
G
What
this
study
does
it
is.
It
is
a
preliminary
type
study
that
would
help
quantify
the
feasibility
to
construct
and
establish
a
formal,
larger
scale.
Phosphorus
removal
system
at
our
lake
roger
foot
is
here
today.
He
helps
head
up
the
management
of
that
as
part
of
the
upper
big
sioux
watershed
project
coordinator
and
I'd
defer
to
him
here
for
some
additional
comments
and
background
behind
this
and
then
we'd
help
answer
any
questions.
Council
might
have.
H
Thank
you,
heath.
As
most
of
you
know,
and
I
know
there's
some
new
faces
on
the
council
as
well
back,
I
want
to
say
close
to
2011
2012.
H
At
the
same
time,
what
kind
of
really
drove
it
was
the
decommissioning
of
the
existing
water
filtration
plant
on
lake
compesca?
So
we
had
a
location
to
start
these
plans
to
see
if
we
could
make
something
on
our
own.
That
would
actually
benefit
the
lake
starting
in
2013
through
2016.
We
ran
a
three-year
pilot
program
with
some
pilot
scale
designs
to
see
if
the
technology
that
we've
come
up
with
was
feasible
in
a
nutshell,
how
this
works
is
lake
water
is
drawn
from
the
lake
it's
fed
to
a
captive
batch
of
algae.
H
The
algae
take
up
the
nutrients
in
the
lake
water,
the
water
is
filtered
back,
the
algae
is
filtered
back
and
the
lake
cleaner
lake
water
is
returned
to
the
lake.
As
you
can
imagine,
with
any
type
of
experimental
program,
we
went
through
some
growing
pains.
The
lessons
learned
well,
the
list
is
very
long
and
very
rich.
H
In
the
middle
of
this
process,
I
did
attend
a
conference
in
san
diego
on
one
of
the
largest
algae-based
conferences
in
the
country.
If
not
the
world,
and
I
did
meet
up
with
a
company
called
clear
as
water
recovery
they're
based
out
of
missoula
montana,
and
with
discussions
with
them,
they
came
out
to
visit.
We
did
a
tour
of
what
we
were
doing.
H
So
to
make
the
story
of
just
a
little
bit
longer
we
contacted
them
and
started
swapping
water
samples
back
and
forth.
We
were
sharing
technologies,
we're
looking
at
their
system
and
then
we
have
asked
them
to
come
in
and
actually
do
a
hard
physical
look
at
our
facility
to
see
if
their
system
will
fit
our
facility
and
if
not,
what
would
it
take
to
bring
our
pilot
program
up
to
industrial
scale
in
relation
or
the
fastest
that
I
could
go
with.
H
My
system
was
about
60,
120
gallons,
a
minute,
well
they're,
proposing
a
third
of
a
million
gallons
of
water
a
day
you
know,
so
that's
that's
pushing
the
pushing
it
quite
quite
quickly.
One
of
the
beauties
of
the
system
is
the
excess
algae
developed
in
in
their
system
can
be
sold
where
exploring
markets
are
ready.
A
lot
of
that
will
go
to
reusable
plastics
and
decomposable
plastics
so
that
a
water
bottle
doesn't
last
a
thousand
years
in
a
landfill.
H
It's
gone
in
a
few
months
with
the
revenue
that
they're
talking
about
being
achieved
from
the
sale
of
the
excess
algae
is
enough
to
cover
operational
costs
of
the
facility,
and
then
the
benefit,
of
course
is
is
clean
water.
I
know
I've
jumped
around
quite
a
bit.
I
can
see.
Glenn
has
a
question
so
please,
let
me
have
it.
H
H
H
What
else
can
I
tell
you
about
this
this
this
feasibility
of
design
will
answer
those
questions.
Can
we
really
make
this
work
in
watertown?
What
will
it
will
cost
what
those
final
costs
will
be
and
what
the
long-term
effects
of
that
on
lake
water
quality
will
be.
H
D
Any
idea,
and-
and
I
realize
you
know
very
very
early
stages-
is
I
mean
if
it
does
turn
out
that
this
is
something
that
would
beneficial
what
what
you
know,
what
what
the
cost
would
be,
whether
it's
a
new
facility
or
refurbishing
our
current
facility.
I
know
we've
kicked
around
some
numbers
in
the
past.
Do
you
want
to
refresh
us
a
little
bit
without
scaring
us
too
much.
H
What
the
heck
it's
20
20
just
hang
on
guys
the
numbers
that
they've
come
up
with
so
far
from
a
feasibility
report
that
they've
done
earlier
is
about
a
four
million
dollar
range.
There
again,
that's
it!
I
feel
that
that
would
be
an
incredible
investment
in
watertown
to
improve
the
quality
of
the
lake.
I
think
long
term.
It
would
pay
for
itself
many
times
over,
but
four
million
is
what
they
they
started
out
with
this
design.
E
H
H
H
The
the
nutrients,
even
the
available
nitrates
that
are
in
the
lake
water
anyway,
were
starting
to
evaporate
on
their
own.
Through
the
nitrogen
cycle,
I
actually
had
to
add
nitrogen
to
the
system
to
get
the
algae
to
grow
enough
to
remove
the
phosphate
from
the
water
system.
So
how
many
years
I
would
like
to
say
I'm
not!
H
I.
You
can't
really
say
that
if
we
got
three
great
years
in
a
row,
we
could
hit
our
targets
really
fast.
But
then
we
get
two
years
in
a
row
like
last
year
and
a
lot
of
the
nutrients
come
back
in,
but
this
system
would
be
good
enough
to
maintain
a
status
quo
so
that
it
doesn't
get
worse
and
then
we
can
catch
up
in
the
dry
years.
E
Thank
you,
mayor,
hi,
roger
a
question
for
you
on
the
time
of
year.
What
what
times
of
what
months
of
the
year?
Would
you
be
cycling,
water,
all
of
them
all
year?
Yes,
are
there
any
invasive
species
that
are
coming
into
these
lakes
that
could
affect
that
system
like
zebra
mussels?
Has
that
been
those.
H
D
A
Roger
just
out
of
curiosity
with
this,
I
do
think
this
is
a
strong,
creative
approach
to
it.
You
know
it's
been
proven
multiple
times
in
other
areas,
with
the
bill
being
what
it
is.
I
guess
some
of
my
concern
is
just
what
happens
in
the
event
that
we
do
get
a
bunch
of
water
and
we
start
having
those
high
flow
years
consistently.
A
B
A
H
No
go
ahead.
Okay.
This
is
not
the
first
thing
that
we've
looked
at.
This
was
not
the
first,
even
the
first
choice.
We
looked
at
some
membrane
technology.
Clark
engineering
has
a
very
strong
scientists
that
have
come
up
with
some
great
membrane
technology
that
does
a
wonderful
job
of
removing
this,
but
the
problem
with
that
one
was
the
price
tag,
was
even
higher.
H
There's
no
recoverables
with
that
one.
We
looked
at
running
the
plant,
as
is
as
a
drinking
water
facility.
There
again,
the
inputs
over
time
were
greater
than
the
algae
system.
We
put
a
lot
of
thought
and
discussion
into
this.
To
try
to
you
know.
Is
there
a
better
way
we
have
these
nutrients
they're
not
going
to
go
away.
H
Lake
pesca
is
basically
a
bladder
when
the
river
runs
hot.
It
swells
up
when
the
river
goes
down.
Well,
the
clean
water
pours
off
the
top
and
down
the
river
system.
It
goes
so
it
will
always
collect
nutrients
from
the
river
system.
The
upper
big
sioux
river
watershed
project
for
the
last
20
years
has
attempted
to
implement
and
install
clean
water
practices
throughout
the
245
000
acres.
H
E
You
mayor
just
a
couple
other
questions
just
so,
I
understand
roger
we're,
looking
at
50
000
bucks
to
study
this
to
get
more
information
on
some
new
techniques
that
could
do
do
this,
for
is
that
am
I
right
is
that
what
we're
talking
about.
E
As
far
as
any
type
of
water
maintenance
up
north,
I
mean
if,
if
it
came
to
pass
again
that
we
had
a
damn
proposal
for
which
is
most
likely
in
my
opinion,
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
core
up
north,
I
think
would
that
have
a
major
effect
on
this
I
mean.
Would
it
would
it
make
it?
I
would
assume
it'd
make
it
easier.
I
don't
know
for
us
to
to
filter
that
algae
out.
H
Second
question:
first,
this
is
my
my
personal
opinions
and
it
does
not
reflect
any
official
government
entity
whatsoever
that
I
may
be
involved
with,
but
we
haven't
had
results
in
20
something
years
with
the
project
up
north
and
the
way
the
state
of
the
country
right
now
and
the
way
covet
is
the
way
we're
spending
money
to
get
congress
to
actually
kick
those
funds
funds
loose
to
actually
do
something
in
the
next
20.
H
But
if
there's
something
that
we
can
do
now
and
even
if
that
that
structure
is
in
place,
it's
not,
it
will
slow
down
some
sediments,
but
it
is
an
open
system
that
water
will
come
through
eventually,
and
it
depends
on
the
final
design
if
it's
designed
so
that
it
doesn't
come
over
the
pollution
control
rear
will
be
in
good
shape.
If
it
does
come
over
well,
then
we
still
have
the
accumulation
problem
that
we
have
now.
H
Does
that
help?
Okay
back
to
my
original
okay,
first
part
of
the
question.
Thank
you.
This
includes
a
site
visit
to
review
existing
conditions,
collect
more
water
samples,
meet
with
key
decision
makers,
stakeholders
and
conduct.
Other
on-site
specific
evaluations
determine
what
components
from
previous
decommissioned
plant
can
be
leveraged
to
be
used
for
the
advanced
bio
biological
reactor
facility,
identify
capacity
of
components
and
determine
whether
upgrades
and
or
repairs
are
required,
including
inspection
evaluation,
existing
influent
pump
station,
concrete
tankage,
miscellaneous
tankage
and
electrical
conduits
present
in
and
around
the
facility.
H
A
preliminary
determination
of
structural
integrity
of
the
existing
plant
identify
potential
codes
that
may
be
considered
out
of
compliance
with
present-day
regulations
and
determine
the
most
effective
and
effective
means
of
addressing
those
violations
properly
analyze
the
option
of
retrofitting
the
existing
building
versus
a
complete
demolition
note
that
it
may
be
more
cost
effective
to
simply
start
over
detailed
project
concept,
including,
but
not
limited
to
updated
economics
and
construction.
Estimates
based
on
information
gathered
from
the
above
bullet
points,
drawings,
layouts,
overall
product
project
would
include
both
in-scope
facilities
and
out-of-scope
improvements.
H
H
A
H
We
only
need
to
do
maybe
a
quarter
of
the
volume
of
the
lake
to
bring
those
levels
down
so
that
we
get
the
clarity
that
we
had.
If
you
guys
remember
that
three
year,
drought
period,
13
14
15,
the
the
lake
water
clarity
was
so
great,
everybody
was,
I
was
getting
all
kinds
of
accolades,
so
people
were
able
to
see
the
bottom
of
the
lake
from
the
end
of
their
docks,
and
I'm
like
I'd
love
to
take
credit
for
that.
H
C
And
we've
looked
into
the
possibility
of
dredging
from
a
water
quality
perspective,
and
we've
been
told
that
we
won't
be
eligible
for
funding
assistance
from
grants
until
we
stop
the
flow
of
pollutants
into
the
lake,
which
means
after
a
dam.
So
it
would
be
the
same
thing
here
I
mean
we're
sucking
out
the
nutrients
but
they're
coming
in
pretty
fast
as
well.
Until
we
get
a
handle
on
that,
that's
something
to
consider
councilman
rudemski.
F
E
H
H
It
was
pretty
much
green
slimy
mud
hole
more
or
less,
and
then
over
the
years
there
has
been
major
improvements
with
the
amount
of
nutrients
coming
down
the
watershed
system,
with
the
erosion
control
around
the
lake
removal
of
the
septic
systems.
Before
my
time
that
had
a
huge
impact.
H
D
Can
I
can
I
respect
in
I'm
lays
on
upper
big
sioux
watershed
district
board,
and
you
know
I've
sat
on
that
for
five
years
now
and
when
I
see
what
you
know,
I
don't
get
out
there
monitor
the
water
like,
like
you
do
roger,
but
when
I
see
the
the
work
that
has
been
done
up
and
down
the
watershed
and
around
the
lake
as
far
as
trying
to
control,
runoff
and
sediment
and
nutrients
coming
into
the
lake,
it's
got
to
have
made
a
significant
improvement
because
there's
an
awful
lot
of
farmers,
land
owners
etc,
but
that
have
bought
in
in
and
realized
too
the
importance
of
of
trying
to
control
what
does
coming
into
the
lake
and
erosion
around
the
lake.
E
You
mentioned
that,
once
this
is
operational,
the
income
or
the
revenue
generated
by
sound
the
algae
would
probably
cover
the
operating
costs.
Did
I
hear
that
correctly?
That's
correct.
When
we
looked
at
the
whole
plan
for
lake
pesca,
you
know
whether
it
be
dredging
or
the
alum
treatments.
Everything
costs
money,
nothing
generated
any
funds.
So
I
I
gives
me
a
glimmer
of
hope.
E
If
you
will
that
we
actually
have
an
opportunity
to,
I
wouldn't
call
it
an
enterprise
fund
quite
yet,
but
a
chance
to
generate
some
revenue
in
hoping
that
you
know
those
markets
don't
go
away
or
we
find
other
markets
for
lj
so
that
that
that's
that's
a
great
statement
to
hear
I,
I
hope,
you're
confident
it
could
do
that
because
that's
the
first
thing
we've
heard
in
any
leg
treatments
that
actually
brings
any
revenue
in.
C
A
C
A
Roger
on
that
who's,
the
purchaser
of
it
is
it
a
plastic
company
or
something
along
those
lines
I
mean
where
they
are
they
located
relatively
close?
Is
it.
H
I've
had
personal
contact
with
the
company
in
georgia
when
I,
it
was
one
of
those
contacts
at
a
conference
and
they
basically
flat
out,
told
me
that
we
will
buy
every
pound
of
algae
that
you
can
produce
right
now
for
as
long
as
you
can
do
it
because
of
their
technology
with
the
the
plastic
water
bottles.
H
That
was
one
out
of
five
different
ones
that
I
the
five
others
I
did
not
have
direct
contact
with.
They
were
advertising
for
the
same
thing
and
the
quality
of
the
algae
that
they
were
looking
for.
The
standards
were
easy
to
meet.
A
H
H
A
Okay
and
then
have
they
given
you
any
idea,
how
long
has
this
company
been
around.
H
A
H
They
started
out
with
the
pulp
mill
in
missoula
montana,
where
they
were
had
some
major
environmental
issues
with
the
pulp
mills
of
holding
bonds.
That's
where
they
got
their
start.
They've
now
done
pilot
programs
well
they're,
they're,
doing
a
big
expansion
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
in
salt
lake
city
utah,
where
they're,
adding
on
a
whole
cell
to
a
wastewater
treatment
plant
this
this
one
in
wisconsin
that
just
came
online
now
is
the
kind
of
the
latest
generation,
and
but
they
are
only
going
at
about
half
the
speed
that
we
would
be
doing.
H
H
A
A
A
A
And
if
they
are
doing
this
is,
is
this
something
where
they're
constantly
trying
to
upgrade
their
systems
as
well
as
trying
to
figure
out?
You
know
different
ways?
I
mean
we're
talking
about
how
long
it
would
take
to
clean
our
lake?
Is
there
other
items
that
we
can
do
to?
You
know
speed
that
up,
or
is
that.
H
H
C
D
Just
a
couple
comments,
first
of
all
that
this
has
been,
but
this
study
has
been
budgeted
in
our
2020
budget.
Correct.
As
I
understand
it,
I
read
the
information
and
secondly,
if
we're
ever
going
to
ever
pay
more
than
just
lip
service
to
protecting
and
preserving
our
lake.
We've
got
to
make
an
investment,
something
like
this
to
to
see
what
our
options
might
be.
So
I
guess
I
would
encourage
us
that
I
know
50
000
is
a
like.
D
You
say
a
pretty
good
size
doe
there
michael,
but
I
would
encourage
us
to
go
ahead
and
make
this
investment
to
see
where
we
go
from
here
with
the
lake.
A
Thank
you
mayor.
I
I
had
several
questions
there,
but
I
think
most
have
been
answered
now
and
maybe
roger.
Let's
say
that
this
comes
out.
The
study
comes
out
very
positive.
A
What
might
be
the
next
cost
that
would
be
associated
down
the
road?
Let's
say
this
survey
goes
for
the
next
six
or
eight
months.
Then.
H
We
are
assuming
that
everything
is
going
to
come
back,
just
fantastic
and
everyone's
going
to
want
to
go
for
it
at
once.
This
study
is
completed
and
we
have
a
really
solid
cost
estimate
of
what
it
would
cost
to
build.
That
will
also
give
me
additional
horsepower
to
start
fundraising
and
finding
partners
to
go
along
with
us
on
it,
but
as
of
right
now,
four
million
dollars
is
the
construction
cost
that
we're
looking
at
in
23
and
24.
A
Lollam
roger,
have
they
given
you
any
indication
of
what
kind
of
you
know
operating
costs.
This
is
is
going
to
go
forward
with.
H
When
the
plant
was
operational
during
my
three-year
experimental
program,
the
monthly
cost
was
roughly
oh
about
1500
a
month
that
was
with
purchasing
nitrogen
fertilizer
carbon
dioxide,
operational
electricity.
Keeping
the
plant
warm
enough
not
to
freeze
up
with
this
system,
we'll
be
pumping
a
little
more
with
additional
lights.
H
C
A
C
Thank
you
item.
Seven
is
old
business.
Do
we
have
any
old
business
not
seen
any?
Is
there
any
new
business?
Oh,
this
is
where
we
have
the
presentation
from
ae2s
nexus.
The
recommendations
on
the
research
completed
for
the
wastewater
and
solid
waste
utility
rate
study-
and
I
see
kevin
smith-
is
here,
but
heath?
Would
you
please
introduce
introduce
the
whole
topic
for
us?
Yes,.
G
Absolutely
mayor,
thank
you
for
that.
So,
as
the
council
recalls,
we
did
enter
into
contractual
services
with
ae2s
to
perform
a
comprehensive
utility
rate
study
for
both
the
wastewater
utility
and
the
solid
waste
utility
that
the
solid
waste
enterprise
fund
that
the
city
manages.
G
I
would
note
that
kevin
smith
is
the
project
manager
for
82s
has
been
helping
us
with
this,
along
with
his
team
and
they've,
put
together
a
pretty
comprehensive
report
here
for
us
this
evening.
That
he'll
summarize
I'd
also
like
to
know
what
marcy
luno
our
engineer.
One
is
our
internal
project
manager
at
marcy.
You
can
feel
free
to
join
mike
or
kevin
up
at
the
table
there.
G
If
you
like
and
then
mike
berger,
the
wastewater
and
solid
waste
superintendent
is
also
online
with
us
this
evening
to
help
answer
any
questions
a
little
bit
more
of
this
background
is
that
we
have
had
a
small
committee.
That's
been
made
up
of
a
couple
few
council
members,
as
well
as
the
internal
staff
and
the
consultants,
and
we
we've
walked
through
several
of
the
scenarios
and
recommendations
here
and
the
practices
and
policies
and
procedures
that
we
currently
follow.
G
Regarding
our
wastewater
rates
and
our
solid
waste
rates-
and
I
think
we've
come
come
up
with
a
pretty
good,
comprehensive
recommendation
here-
that
ae2s
is
providing
us
and
that's
what
we'd
like
to
prevent
to
the
full
council
tonight
for
their
consideration
and
any
discussion
we
take
out
of
this
meeting.
Of
course,
we'll
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
as
necessary
and
make
any
amendments
or
modifications
to
that
plan
accordingly.
F
Thanks
heath
first
I'd
like
to
thank
heath
and
marcy
and
mike
and
their
staffs
for
the
amount
of
homework
they
did
as
part
of
this
project
as
well.
So
this
is,
as
he
said,
it
was
very
much
a
team
effort
that
we
held.
I
think
four
very
in-depth
progress
meetings
with
a
group
of
city
staff
and
elected
officials
to
bring
us
to
this
point.
So
it's
been
been
very
much.
F
You
know
an
interactive
process
which
I
personally
appreciate
because
then
you
know,
we
feel
as
though
it's
something
that
that
the
city
owns
that
it
isn't
just
a
consultant
telling
you.
This
is
what
we
think
you
should
do,
a
one-size-fits-all
that
we
recognize
and
and
have
had
the
benefit
of
your
staff's
time
in
and
expertise
to,
learn
more
and
to
find
you
know,
recommend,
come
up
with
recommendations
that
really
are
suited
just
for
the
city
of
watertown,
although
we
use
standard
processes
for
rate
setting
and
rate
analysis.
F
One
of
the
the
things
I
think
sometimes
gets
overlooked
when
we
jump
into
rate
analyses
is
why
why
do
we
do
this
at
all?
Why
do
communities
consider
rate
adjustments
and
when
so?
This
is
an
excerpt
from
a
utility
rate
survey
that
our
company
does
every
year
and
we
survey
around,
I
think
275
communities
and
systems
in
the
north
central
part
of
the
country.
F
F
That
revenues
and
and
expenses
have
to
generally
balance
and
it
isn't.
It
isn't
the
same
as
running
a
general
fund
operation.
So
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
you're
you're
running
businesses
here,
so
you
should,
as
prudent
business
owners.
Look
at
your
costs.
Look
at
your
expenses
on
a
very
you,
know,
regular
basis
and
see
if
you're,
keeping
up
and
then
project
out.
Well,
what
what
are
we
going
to
need?
F
What
do
we
need
to
do
next
year
to
keep
the
doors
open
and
to
serve
the
public,
because
these
are
businesses
that
just
you,
you
can't
close
the
doors
on
them
frankly
that,
as
long
as
the
community
is
here,
these
businesses
are
going
to
be
in
operation.
Therefore,
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
that,
on
a
regular
basis,
you
take
a
look
at
your
costs
and
and
revenues
expenses
and
revenues.
F
F
So
then,
we
looked
at
different
rate
designs
and
bill
impacts,
so
we
could
show
you
and
your
staff
well,
what
does
that
all
mean
to
the
people
paying
the
bills,
who's
getting
those
utility
bills
on
a
monthly
basis?
And
then
I
think
what
will
be
the
most.
I
hope
the
most
helpful
portion
of
this
is
the
solid
waste
financial
plan
and
the
wastewater
financial
plan.
That
gives
you
an
idea
or
a
look
into
the
future
on
what
some
upcoming
costs
are
and
how
your
staff
will
be
planning
for
the
future.
F
Now,
how
are
we
going
to
fund
those
projects?
What
what
sort
of
reserve
targets
and
things
have
we
have
we
established
so
that
you
have
the
confidence
that
those
utilities,
those
businesses
are
being
well
managed
and
well
planned
for
that?
It's
not
just
a
year
by
year,
but
it
does.
It
does
really
require
a
longer
view.
F
F
F
Are
your
rates
right
now
within
plus
or
minus
10,
of
what
it's
costing
you
to
provide
that
service
to
your
customers
and
and
the
good
news
is
when
we
went
through
that
the
cosa
analysis
with
your
staff.
We
found
that
that
the
rate
structures
on
both
water
and
on
solid
waste
are
generally
within
that
10,
plus
or
minus
tolerance.
So
we
didn't
see
the
need
to
completely
revamp
your
rate
design
or
your
rate
system
that
that's
the
good
news.
F
So
I
think
the
you
know
look
back
on
how
your
systems
have
been
managed
financially
and
operationally
and
and
from
a
rate
structure
standpoint.
Things
are
looking
pretty
good,
so
rate
recommendations
for
waste,
water,
single-family
and
multi-family
apartment
rates
generally,
as
I
said,
maintain
the
existing
structure
but
right
size,
the
fixed
charge
and
you
charge
on
a
100
cubic
feet
basis.
So
one
ccf
is
100
cubic
feet
that
equates
to
748
gallons
in
case
anyone's
interested,
but
you
charge
per
se
per
ccf.
F
We
looked
at
at
generally
about
a
3
ccf
average
or
something
like
the
40th
percentile
of
your.
Your
residence
fall
in
this
3ccf
range.
So
when
we
looked
at
at
the
wastewater
rate
for
them,
we
look,
we
adjusted
the
charge
to
that.
I
think
previously
the
assumption
was
that
it
was
on
7
7ccf,
but
that
it
showed
that
you
know
that
was
really
much
higher
than
than
actuality
commercial
and
industrial
rates
again.
F
Maintain
the
the
existing
structure
right
size,
the
volume
included
with
the
commercial
base
charge
and
we'll
get
into
that
in
a
moment,
just
a
bit
a
little
bit
about
strength,
charges
that
you've
got
biochemical
oxygen,
demand,
bod,
you've,
got
total,
suspended,
solids,
tss
and
then
you've
got
nh3
ammonia.
These
are
these
are
strength,
factors
or
strength,
components
of
generally
industrial
wastewater
that
you
charge
extra
for
to
industrial
users.
You
have
a
formal
industrial
pre-treatment
program.
F
That
is
an
expense,
so
we
looked
at
well,
who
should
be
paying
for
that
and
generally
it's
or
it
came
out
to
be
about
70
percent
of
the
expense
of
that
industrial
pre-treatment
program
should
be
going
directly
to
industrial
customers,
there's
a
certain
component
to
that.
That
goes
to
residential
com
customers
as
well,
but
again
right
sizing
the
rates
and
recognizing
who
benefits
from
certain
parts
of
your
your
system,
not
just
the
physical
collection
and
treatment
system,
but
some
of
these
other
things
that
that
are
true
costs
to
the
system.
F
That
is,
I
think,
generally
a
policy
matter
to
discuss
or
something
to
keep
in
mind
for
the
future
that,
if
you
have
people
who
connect
and
disconnect
whether
they're,
snowbirds
or
just
vacancies,
if
someone
disconnects
for
three
months
or
six
months
and
then
wants
to
reconnect
that
that
readiness
to
serve
your
infrastructure,
still
there
ready
to
serve
them,
that's
an
expense
that
you
continue
to
have
so
in
the
future.
You
might
want
to
think
about
a
fee
for
that.
It
might
not
be.
F
G
G
Sorry,
heath,
if
I
could
chime
in
on
that
slide,
because
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
behind
the
scenes
components
to
this
study
that
I
really
would
commend
82s
work
on,
rather
than
just
looking
at
the
35
000
foot
elevation
of
where
our
rate
should
be
based
on
our
operation
and
capital
needs.
You
know
they
really
did
dive
deep
into
all
the
all
the
factors
involved
in
our
rates
and
that
right
sizing
that
to
me
was
an
important
step
in
that
process.
G
In
order
to
make
sure
we
are
right
sizing
our
rates
for
the
the
general
residential
customer
base
that
we
have
and
then
also
the
commercial
and
industrial
customer
base
that
we
have.
I
just
wanted
to
community
to
us
for
the
work
on
that
and
taking
that
level
of
detail
into
account
for
that
right.
Sizing
considerations
that
were
that
we
have
in
this
proposal.
F
Thanks
for
pointing
that
out-
and
it
just
kind
of
goes
back
to
those
four
different
progress
meetings
we
had
with
your
staff
and
all
the
homework
they
did
to
participate-
that
this
is
really
a
rate
that
you
know
not
to
fast
forward
to
the
end.
But
we,
you
know
rate
design
and
rate
suggestions
that
that
are
fair
and
equitable
to
your
residential
customers.
Yes,
sir,
how
do.
G
Mike,
mr
burger,
could
you
chime
in
on
that?
I
I
don't
know
the
answer
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
yep.
E
B
C
You
can
hear
me
this
is
sarah.
If
you
can
hear
me-
and
I
say
something
wrong-
please
jump
in
and
correct
me,
but
we
do
allow
people
to
disconnect
for
a
short
period
of
time
and
it's
it's
kind
of
a
struggle.
It's
it's
not
something
that
we
like
doing
it's.
It
creates
issues
and
but
I
think
we
have
been
allowing
it
and
mike
is
that
true?
Could
you
hear
me.
A
Yes,
they
do
allow
to
you
to
disconnect
for
a
period
of
time
and
we
actually
don't
handle
that
in
the
department.
So
I'm
not
and
there's
been
some
changes
to
that
policy
over
the
years.
So
I'm
not
sure
where
we
are.
But
yes,
you
can.
You
can
shut
off
services
well,.
F
There's
there
is
that
de
minimis
factor
of
it's
costing
us
more
to
manage
a
program
than
it
is
to
get
the
revenue.
Maybe
that's
something
that
you
just
provide
or
you
allow,
or
you
acknowledge,
with
those
individual
accounts,
but
it's
part
of
the
fixed
charge.
So
it
would
kind
of
address
the
issue
without
having
to
make
it
a
a
whole
new
program
and
hire
an
fte
to
run
that
right.
C
And-
and
I
know,
part
of
the
issue
has
been
well:
the
water
department
physically
comes
out,
closes
a
valve
turns
off
the
water,
but
we've
got
sump
pumps
that
people
rely
upon.
They
don't
want
their
house
flooding,
while
they're
down
in
arizona
or
whatever,
so
the
sewers
actually
may
be
still
working
and
I,
to
be
honest,
don't
know
how
we've
handled
that
either
yeah.
I.
F
C
F
C
C
Yes,
I
I
think
there
is
and-
and
I
think
there
actually
is
a
charge
to
disconnect-
because
someone
physically
comes
out
and
turns
a
valve
for
water
for
water
and
then
they
they
have
another
charge
to
come
back
out
again
and
turn
it
back
on.
But
for
the
sewer
part
of
it
I
mean
we're
kind
of
along
for
the
ride
and
we
haven't
been
charging
for
the
sump
collection
when
people
had
variances
to
discharge
their
ground
water
from
around
their
foundation
into
the
sanitary
sewer.
That
goes
all
winter
long,
normally.
A
What
a
topic
we
need
that
when
anybody
leaves
town
and
they
shut
off
their
water,
then
they
quit
building
the
service,
and
so,
like
the
mayor,
said,
there's
a
valve
to
shut
off
the
water
there's
no
valve
on
the
sewer.
But
there
is
a
small
reconnection
charge
of
I
don't.
I
haven't
dealt
with
it
for
so
long.
You've
never
called,
but
it's
just
a
few
dollars,
because
you
have
the
administrative
work
of
sending
the
emails
and
going
through
finance
municipal
utilities
to
reinitiate
the
billing
and
make
sure
everything's
reinstated.
F
Thanks
so
on
to
the
recommended
approach
for
residential
this
table
shows
the
current
monthly
charge
in
2020
and
then
the
suggested
charges
for
2021.,
so
we've
got
it
broken
down
into
fixed
operation
and
maintenance
cost
and
then
fixed
debt
costs.
So
you
see
that
fixed
on
costs
for
a
residential
customer
in
2020
are
12.51
cents
a
month
recommendation
is
to
increase
that
by
three
dollars
and
10
cents
a
month
per
residential
account,
and
that
again
is
it
goes
back
to
the
cost
of
service.
F
There's
no
change
to
the
fixed
debt
component,
because
that
is
established
really
based
on
your
srf
loan
covenants
and
provided
you're
meeting
that
110
percent
coverage?
There's
no
need
to
adjust
that
up.
So
as
long
as
there's
you
as
long
as
you're
meeting
your
sr
f
debt
requirements,
that's
why
that
one
doesn't
change.
So
the
total
fixed
amount
from
2020
to
2021
is
three
dollars
and
10
cents
recommended
at
three
dollars
and
10
cents
per
month
and
I'll
show
you
just
generally,
where
that
puts
you.
F
So
that,
first
graph,
that
I
showed
you
of
an
excerpt
from
the
utility
rate
survey
that
we
do
every
year,
this
graph
is
also
an
excerpt
from
that
utility
rate
survey.
This
is
just
south
dakota
systems
showing
where
you're
currently
at
and
with
the
excuse
me.
The
2021
adjustment,
if
approved,
would
still
move.
You
still
keep
you
about
in
the
same
position
at
you
know
two
dollars
less
than
the
next
highest
system.
You
will
see
that
there
are
some
systems
that
have
fixed
charges
and
variable
charges.
F
F
City
of
harrisburg
is
in
the
process
of
designing
and
constructing
their
own
mechanical
waste
water
treatment
plant
right
now.
They
also
deliver
waste
water
to
the
city
of
sioux
falls
and
they
have
their
own
lagoon
system.
So
this
is
not
to
indicate
everyone
has
the
same
kind
of
treatment
technology
that
the
city
of
watertown
does.
But
if
you
want
to
see
what
or
if
you
want
to
know
what
residential
customers
pay,
typically
in
south
dakota,
this
is
where
you
are
now.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
I
do
have
one
question.
The
recommendation
that
you
mentioned
earlier,
the
three
dollars
and
10
cents
for
as
a
fixed
cost
edition,
is
that
something
would
it
be
a
similar
rate
increase
yearly.
Then,
in
your
estimation,
as
we
move
forward,
would
we
or
we
take
it
year
by
year
and
and
make
that
decision
that.
F
That's
a
great
question
and
the
and
the
short
answer
is
no.
This
is
a
one-year
rate
adjustment
recommendation.
F
We
do
as
part
of
the
financial
plan
I'll
show
you
that
graph
towards
the
end,
but
our
recommendations
or
what
we've
worked
on
with
staff
is
to
get
down
to
a
what
I'd
call
a
cpi
inflationary
adjustment
in
the
out
years,
so
that,
if
electricity
and
if
other
you
know
costs
that
you
have
to
bear
those
increase
that
you
incrementally
do
that
on
a
very
you
know
much
smaller
basis,
I
guess
is
the
way
I
would
would
couch
that
heath.
You
have
any
other
thoughts.
G
Other
than
that,
you
know
that's
a
a
perfect
example
councilman
buehler
of
some
of
the
discussions
we
have
with
the
committee.
I
know
this
is
something
finance
officer,
kristen
bobsien
and
I
talked
about
with
the
committee,
and
you
know
the
importance
of
keeping
up
on
this
on
an
annual
basis,
so
that
those
those
adjustments.
G
You
know
it's
it's
incremental
over
time
and
obviously,
when
you
do
that
annually,
it
lessens
the
blow
of
the
overall
impact
when
you
need
to
make
a
correction
or
make
a
make
an
increase
due
to
the
the
ongoing
increase
of
the
cost
to
operate
the
systems.
So
we
would
anticipate
just
as
kevin
indicated,
you
know,
taking
into
account
that
the
operational
expenses
annually
and
adjusting
those
rates
accordingly
on
an
annual
basis
at
a
much
smaller
percentage
of
an
of
an
increase
that
keeps
it
a
little
bit
more
palatable.
D
Yes,
being
part
of
that,
that
group
that
that
put
this
together,
when
was
the
last
time
that
we
did
adjust
rates,
I
think
that'd
be
helpful
to
know
when
we
last
adjusted
our
rates,
because
it's
been
quite
some
time
right.
G
D
That's
what
I've
had
in
my
mind:
it's
been
about
10
years.
I
know
I
expressed
concern
that,
although
it's
only
three
dollars,
it
is
what
11
12
increase
that
first
year,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
one
we
haven't
had
an
adjustment
for
a
long
time
and
secondly,
even
with
that
adjustment
for
in
that
first
year,
we're
still
would
have
the
lowest
rates
in
the
in
the
state.
So
we're
going
to
get
some
pushback
percentage-wise,
probably
even
dollar-wise
three
dollars,
but
I
think
to
keep
in
perspective.
F
And
one
of
the
things
that
we
didn't
really-
and
I
don't
even
have
a
slide
on
this
today,
but
we
will
deliver
a
rate
model
to
you
that
that
heath
and
marcy
and
kristen
and
and
mike
and
craig,
can
all
use
on
an
annual
basis.
We're
not
you
don't
need
to
go
through
a
full-blown
rate
analysis
every
year,
but
there
is
value
in
having
that
rate
model
so
that
as
capital
improvements
come
and
go,
that
you're
able
to
with
your
own
staff,
use
that
to
forecast
what
your
needs
are.
F
So
there's
you
know
always
an
opportunity
to
to
provide
support
to
you.
But
what
we
really
like
to
see
when
we
finish
up
rate
studies
is
a
self-sustaining
utility
that
we
can
deliver
this.
You
know
the
the
spreadsheet
based
rate
model
that
your
own
staff
can
use
so
that
every
year
as
you're,
going
through
your
budget
review
that
you've
got
kind
of
the
projection
or
the
updated
numbers
from
well,
these
were
the
actual
operating
expenses.
These
are
our
actual
capital
expenses
and
then
continue
to
project
that
out.
F
F
Afterwards,
so
the
the
commercial
rate
is
a
a
little
bit
different.
This
again
is
based
on
the
fixed
o
m
costs
of
three
cubic
feet.
300
cubic
feet.
I
should
say
three
ccf,
which
is
748
times
three,
and
if
you
want
it
in
gallons,
so
the
again
the
fixed
o
m
charge
would
go
from
1251
to
1564..
F
F
So
this
would
be
a
what
I
would
say,
typical
commercial
bill
across
the
geographies
that
we
that
we
survey
so
from
65
up
to
80
just
over
80
or
85
dollars,
I
believe,
is
where
you
would
land
in
in
2021
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
we
could
do
or
you
may
want
to
do
because
you
don't
have
you
have
a
much
smaller
number
of
commercial
accounts
is
if
anyone
questions
like.
How
does
this
affect
me?
F
Okay,
but
again
this
is
you
know
you
look
at
the
range
of
wastewater
charges
and
there's
one
other
community
harrisburg
is
not
on
this,
but
I
believe
theirs
is
in
excess
of
what
brandon
is
in
terms
of
the
commercial
charges
for
them
for
the
year.
So
it's
it's
not
meant
to
be
a
comparative
process,
but
if
you're,
if
you're
wondering
generally,
what
does
it
cost
to
treat
wastewater
in
south
dakota
for
class
1
communities?
F
And
on
the
industrial
side
going
from
left
to
right,
we've
got
again:
the
fixed
o
m
costs,
fixed
debt
costs,
fixed,
o
m
cost,
is
recommended
to
go
up
nine
dollars
and
sixty
cents
a
month
and-
and
this
includes
seven
ccf-
recognizing
that
in
your
industrial
users,
are
not
domestic.
Only
there's
a
lot
of
process
water
being
used.
So
for
that
fixed
monthly
fee,
it
covers
about
7,
ccf
of
of
usage
flows
in
excess
of
7
ccf.
F
The
the
solids
and
and
other
things
in
that
industrial
wastewater
you
have
to
your
community
has
to
have
you're
mandated
to
have
an
industrial
pre-treatment
program
to
sample
these
users
and
that's
a
real
cost
to
you,
which
is
why
there
are
specific
charges
to
those.
So
these
are
shown
in
excuse
me
milligrams
per
liter
and
also
dollars
per
pound
in
2020,
and
your
your
wastewater
staff
is
actually
able
to
measure
this
because
they
do
sampling
of
of
those
industries.
F
They
don't
have
you
don't
do
this
for
every
residential
customer,
but
you
do
it
for
industry,
so
the
change
for
for
bod
to
go
from
33
cents,
a
pound
up
to
almost
34
cents,
a
pound
for
total,
suspended
solids,
that
is
unchanged
and
for
ammonia.
It
goes
up
from
a
dollar
eighteen
to
a
dollar
two
dollar
twenty
three,
almost
a
dollar
twenty,
four
in
in
the
limits.
So
again,
you
know
what
heath
said
earlier
mentioned
about
the
in-depth
analysis
that
that
your
staff
and
our
staff
went
through
to
come
up
with
these
numbers.
F
G
G
Quick
interject,
madam
mayor,
just
for
the
sake
of
time.
You
know
we
do
have
two.
Only
10
minutes
left
till
the
regular
council
meeting
starts.
Kevin's
got
quite
a
bit
of
information
to
cover.
Are
we
okay
running
a
little
past
at
5
30,
or
how
do
you
want
to
handle
that
mayor?
Just
so,
kevin
can
gain
discussions.
C
F
I
will
thank
you,
I
won't
be
redundant
when
we
get
through
solid
waste,
but
generally
what
we
evaluate
when
we're
looking
at
financial
plans.
It's
I
I
consider
it
like
financial
planning,
you
do
for
yourself
and
your
families
that
you
look
at
things
like.
What
does
it
cost
to
run?
The
house
do
what
is
my
mortgage?
What
am
I
saving
for?
You
know
whose
car
am
I
going
to
have
to
replace
next
to
generalize
it
down
to
a
utility?
F
But
yet
we
acknowledge
that
we
need
to
build
up
some
reserves
because
you're
going
to
have
capital
costs
well
into
the
future.
You
want
to
be
prepared
to
make
those
decisions
about.
When
is
it?
When?
Is
it
prudent
to
go
into
the
debt
market
to
go?
Look
at
bonds
versus?
Can
we
pay
for
this
on
our
own?
Can
we
pay
for
this
out
of
rates?
That's
one
of
the
purposes
of
having
reserves
is
so
you
can
make
those
decisions
from
a
business
sense
in
the
future
and
not
be
locked
into
well.
F
F
F
So
that's
we're
trying
to
give
you
a
snapshot
into
the
future
that
acknowledges
some
of
the
capital
costs
that
that
your
staff
has
seen
coming,
but
also
gives
you
the
flexibility
of
knowing
you
can
pay
for
things
out
with
debt
or
you
can
pay
for
them
out
of
out
of
capital
reserves
and
back
to
your
question,
councillor
buehler
about
will
we
see
double-digit
rate
adjustments.
F
C
E
Thank
you
kevin.
I
I'm
just
curious
if
they
have
this
kind
of,
if
they
have
this,
these
resources
banked
because
of
these
increases.
How
does
that
affect
grant
applications
down
the
road?
Because
now,
when
we
have
projects,
we
go
and
we
search
out
grant
opportunities
wherever
they
might
be
in
and
how
does
that
work?
If
the
money's
there
it
makes
it
easy
to
say
hey
we
made
all
these
rate
increases
the
money's
in
the
bank.
We've
got
this
extra
money
to
work
with
these
capital
projects.
F
You
know
just
generally
on
the
utility
side,
most
utilities,
your
size
right
now
in
your
position
are
looking
at
srf
loans
anyway.
So
those
are,
I
wouldn't
say,
independent
of
where
your
rates
are
at,
but
one
of
the
things
the
srf
folks
will
look
at
when
you
apply.
Is
your
ability
to
repay
and
do
you
have
your
rates
set
high
enough
that
you
can
meet
that
110
debt
coverage?
And
I
think
there
have
been
times
where
the
board
of
water
and
natural
resources
has
said
community
x?
F
You
need
to
raise
your
rates
because
we're
not
sure
you
can
repay
your
loan.
So
I
I
think
this
not
that
you're
going
to
negate
the
possibility
of
grant
grants
in
the
future.
I
would
say
more
on
the
srf
loan
side,
you're,
actually
setting
yourself
up
to
be
better
positioned.
If
and
when
you
you
choose
to
go
to
look
for
additional
loans.
F
I'm
moving
on
to
some
pumps.
Some
pump
variants
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
a
while
ago.
Right
now,
some
pump
discharge
into
your
collection
system
does
cost.
It
is
a
charge
that
you're
not
it
is
a
cost
you're
not
charging,
for
what
we're
recommending
is
a
seasonal
charge
for
anyone
who
does
discharge
into
their
floor
drain
from
november
15th
to
march
15,
100
and
even
with
500
residents.
Who
would
you
know
char
or
connect
to
that?
F
That
is
still,
I
would
say,
in
a
sense
not
really
paying
for
the
capacity
that's
taking
up
in
your
system
this,
I
I
don't
see
this
as
a
convenience
charge.
I
see
this
as
recognition
that
there's
capacity
being
taken
up
in
the
collection
system-
and
you
know
as
time
goes
on
there
may
be
other
opportunities
to
do
things
like
implement
some
pump
collection
systems
with
a
storm.
You
know
storm
water
funds
to
take
that
storm
water
out
of
your
out
of
your
collection
system.
F
F
Moving
on
to
solid
waste,
I
will
get
through
this
quickly
mayor.
I
promise
we
looked
at
the
same
cost
of
service
analysis
that
we
did
with
wastewater
generally
heath.
I
would
say
our
recommendations
for
residential
collection
for
for
garbage
and
recycling
in
2020,
it's
ten
dollars
and
fifty
cents
2021
and
2022
we're
recommending
a
dollar
per
month
for
each
of
those
two
years
to
bring
it
up
to
1250
in
the
year.
F
F
Recommend
recommendation
in
2021
and
22
is
to
go
to
forty
two
dollars
or
at
four
dollar,
and
fifty
cent
per
ton
charge
also
increasing
the
out
of
area
surcharge
from
nine
fifty
to
fourteen
dollars.
Another
four
fifty
per
ton
increase,
2.50
per
ton,
increase
in
yard,
waste
and
inert,
which
is
leaves
gra
or
leaves
branches,
etc.
F
So
that
would
go
from
22
a
ton
to
24.50
and
also
with
white
goods.
22
dollars
to
24.50
a
ton
there.
So
these
again,
we
went
through
a
cost
of
service
analysis
in
depth
with
mike
and
your
staff
to
see
what
does
it
cost
to
actually
manage
the
collection
system,
as
well
as
managing
the
landfill
itself,
the
landfill
operation?
F
F
It
is
a
different
ball
game
in
terms
of
and
what
what
monthly
fees
are,
one
monthly
cost.
So
that's
not
included
in
here,
but
again
for
the
the
landfills
and
the
municipal
systems
that
we
surveyed.
F
This
is
where
you
are
today
and
where
you
would
be
in
2021
and
then
a
little
higher
in
2022
with
those
recommendations.
This
is
just
for
your
residents
tip
same
same
slides.
I
used
essentially
for
for
the
wastewater,
solid
waste
financial
plan.
F
One
of
the
differences
here
when
we
get
to
the
the
financial
planning
process
itself.
Actually
is
those
red
bars,
those
are
for
land
reserves
and
that
I'm
not
going
to
say
that's
untouchable
revenue
that
gets
set
aside,
but
that's
the
money
you
need
to
set
aside
for
future
acquisition,
and
you
know
there
that's
different
than
what
you
would
see
at
a
wastewater
treatment
plant
or
a
water
water
treatment
plant.
Is
they
typically
don't
have
those
those
reserves
set
aside?
F
When
we
talk
about
municipal,
solid
waste
charges,
increasing
you
saw,
it
was
a
dollar
a
month
per
residential
account,
and
yet
on
the
the
commercial
side
it
was
in
the
you
know:
450
a
ton
part
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
understanding
that
the
city
of
watertown
owns
and
operates
this
regional
landfill
right,
and
that
is
a
that
brings
with
it
responsibilities
that
you
all
are
charged
with.
Your
residents
are
going
to
have
well
into
the
future.
F
There
are
closure
and
post-closure
costs
that
the
epa
is
going
to
continue
to
enforce,
and
therefore
anyone
who
comes
from
outside
of
the
city
of
watertown,
who
brings
their
solid
waste
to
your
regional
landfill,
they
have
the
benefit
of
that.
They
don't
have
that
liability
long
term
that
you
do
so
keep
in
mind
when
you
think
of
our
landfill
costs,
you're
also
providing
a
service
to
people
outside
the
community
who
won't
have
that
legal
responsibility
even
after
the
landfill
is
closed
to
maintain
it
to
do
the
sampling
to
manage
methane
all
of
those
things.
F
So
there
is
a
differential
in
cost
because
they're
they
don't
have
the
long-term
investment
that
you
do.
So,
if
there's
any
questions
from
haulers
from
your
own
residence.
I
hope
you
all
keep
that
in
mind
when
it
comes
to
solid
waste.
So
these
are,
I
just
wanted
one
one
closure
slide
with
all
of
those
all
of
the
things
we've
talked
about
again.
We
feel
we
went
through
a
fairly
exhaustive
process
with
your
staff.
It
was
a
lot
of
fun.
F
We
got
to
know
them,
they
probably
got
to
know
us
and
our
quirks
a
little
more
than
they
wanted
to,
but
this
is
stuff
that
we
like
to
do
and-
and
I
really
do
like
to
see
communities-
have
a
financial
plan
and
feel
confident
that
your
staff
is
thinking
about
your
financial
future.
So
with
that
I'll
close
and
hopefully
I'm
close
mayor,
thank.
D
I
guess
heath
or
marcy
what
what's
what's
the
next
step,
timetable,
etc:
kind
of
walk
us
through
real
quickly
through
that.
G
Yeah,
thank
you,
councilman
vilhauer.
You
know
we
would
take
any
comments,
suggestions
or
questions
that
the
council
had
this
evening.
That
they'd
want
us
to
consider
before
bringing
forward
the
appropriate.
Is
it
resolution
or
ordinance?
I
believe
we're
going
to
go
resolution
with
the
adoption,
the
new
rates
that
we'd
bring
forward
for
a
proposal
for
adoption.
G
We
can
also
discuss
any
adjustments
or
amendments
at
that
time
as
well.
When
the
resolution
comes
forth
but
marcy,
I
defer
to
you
timeline
on
bringing
that
resolution
forth.
Do
we
have
that
outlined
in
our
schedule.
A
By
november,
we
plan
to
bring
this
to
council
with
the
resolution.
That
was
our
original
intention
with
our
rfp
that
went
out
to
our
consultants
and
ae2s
was
right
in
line
with
that
presentation
was
about
one
council
meeting
off,
so
we're
still
on
track
to
meet
the
november
deadline.
G
Great-
and
I
could
remind
that
this
information
was
was
shared
to
the
entire
council.
We
also
forwarded
that
to
the
press
to
marcy.
If
we
didn't
do
that
earlier,
but
just
so
they
have
the
slide
shows
for
their
records,
and
if
the
council
would
have
any
questions
between
now
and
then
please
feel
free
to
get
ahold
of
myself
or
marcy
and
we'll
handle
them
accordingly.
C
All
right,
we
do
not
have
time
to
go
into
executive
sessions,
so
we
won't
pursuant
to
sdcl
1-25-2
and
there
being
no
further
business
on
the
agenda.
Id
claris
adjourned
and
we'll
take
a
five-minute
break
and
we'll
be
back
for
the
council
meeting.