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Plan Commission Meetng - 01-07-2021
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C
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B
A
All
right,
we
have
a
quorum.
Third
item
on
the
agenda
is
invitation
public
comment
participations
middle.
If
there's
anything
not
on
the
agenda
that
you
wish
to
talk
about,
we
we
do
have
time
at
the
end
of
the
agenda,
so
please
submit
that
to
city
staff
and
then
moving
on
to
item
four's
approval
of
the
agenda
I'll
need
a
motion
in
a
second.
A
G
B
A
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D
E
E
G
Mr
chair,
yes,
this
is
case
I
can
maybe
provide
a
little
bit
of
perspective.
This
was
brought
to
my
attention
through
an
employee
of
mine,
mr
luke
muller,
who
also
happens
to
be
the
kind
county
zoning
officer
a
few.
A
few
weeks
ago,
mr
mueller
received
a
complaint
regarding
the
the
location
or
depositing
of
storage
wind
tower
blades
out
in
the
country,
and
one
of
the
land
owners
residences
along
the
old
larabee
road
there
had
contacted
me
want
to
know
what
was
going
on
and
luke
thought.
G
Well,
they
shouldn't
be
doing
that
because
you
know
well.
Luke
basically
said
that.
Well,
you
need
to
talk
to
the
city,
because
that
that
that
property
is
in
the
city
limits,
because
that
was
the
county's
understanding
as
well
that
when
the
original
annexation
and
zoning
came
in
that
that
entire
piece
was
was
annexed
in
and
and
the
reason
that's
important
is
that
that
lower
half
of
that
railroad
spur
is
not
allowed
by
ordinance
in
coyote
county
zoning
regulations.
G
So,
however,
as
luke
began
to
do
some
investigation,
it
was
found
out
that
this
piece
of
ground
was
not
annexed.
Why
it
was
not
annexed.
We
luke
was
not
sure
why
that
was.
It
was
the
county's
presumption
that
it
was
annexed
and
that's
why
the
county
had
not
been
involved
with
any
sort
of
enforcement
or
zoning
actions
over
the
last
eight
or
nine
years,
and
so
that's
kind
of
how
we
got
here
today
is
that
the
county
is
became
aware.
G
A
Yeah
thank
you
for
that.
It
certainly
does,
like
you
said
most
of
us
weren't
here
in
2011.
As
far
as
this
board
and
staff
goes,
so
I
do
appreciate
you
doing
that
research
or
having
luke
do
that
research,
and
I
also
just
want
to
mention
that
today,
with
our
action
of
annexation
and
zoning,
it
it
doesn't
affect
the
the
the
right
to
use
a
railroad
spur.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
make
that
clear
we're
just
saying.
A
D
So
actually
it'll
all
kind
of
come
together
at
the
same
time
means
that
we
have
to
postpone
the
action
on
the
conditional
uses,
and
so
then
we'll
come
back
and
that's
where
we
can
implement
the
conditions
for
what
their
uses
are.
But
because
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan
does
show
this
as
i2.
Heavy
industrial
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
the
annexation
of
zoning.
F
D
F
D
D
E
So
if
you
look
at
the
plant
up
there,
the
dark-
you
see
the
dark
dirt
area,
that's
where
the
plant
was
going
to
sit
originally
okay
along
that
crick
bed.
Okay,
when
they
did
soil
samples,
it
came
back
as
blue
clay
and
it
would
have
cost
a
ton
more
money
to
do
that.
So
what
we
did
is
we
moved
the
plant
to
where
it
is.
Today
we
went
up
and
we
talked
to
the
city
about
it.
They
did
not
have
a
problem
with
it
and
then
the
plant
was
built
in.
E
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E
I
E
Right,
paul,
I
don't
remember
the
anchorage,
but
when
we
when,
when
we
did
this
project,
we
bought
the
40
acres
plus
the
other
acreage.
The
llc
plant
bought
that
all
at
once,
and
maybe
that's
why
it
didn't
get
annexed
in
because
back
in
95
97,
no
probably
wasn't
well
somewhere
back
in
there.
It
was
purchased
by
the
watertown
co-op
because
they
had
it
a
few
years
before
the
project
did
start.
E
E
G
D
G
G
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D
G
Yeah,
mr
chair,
I
I
would
agree
with
you.
I
mean
what
we're
at
here
is
whether
or
not
the
proposed
whether
it's
in
one
piece
or
two
pieces.
Does
this
property
look
to
be
annexed?
Should
it
be
zoned
i2?
Should
it
be
consistent
with
our
long-range
land
use
plan
that
and
that's
basically
the
question
before
us.
A
D
B
D
A
A
J
I
was
the
one
you
know
wondering
what's
going
on,
and
then
it
was
so
november
25th
and
then
november
29th
a
sunday
morning
at
zero,
seven
in
the
morning,
they're
dropping
the
wind
turbine
blades
that
are
50
some
feet
long
because
they're
the
whole
length
of
a
semi
trailer
behind
my
property,
making
horrendous
booms-
and
I
jumped
like
I
thought,
a
propane
tank
was
getting.
You
know
blew
up
in
in
my
shed
and
my
neighbor.
J
J
J
J
So
these
guys
they
talk
about
grain
cars
going
in
and
out
fertilizer
cars
going
on
out,
yup
they're
telling
the
truth
they're
not
talking
about
the
flat
car
that
has
to
leave
for
a
bean
car
or
grain
car
to
come
in
or
as
soon
as
a
grain
car
goes
out.
The
flat
car
comes
back
in
and
then
oh,
we
got
fertilizer
coming
in
flat.
Car
goes
up
now.
I've
I've
come
to
understand
that
their
rail
rate,
railway
or
whoever
is
repairing
the
flat
cars.
J
A
Thank
you
and
all
conditions
that
would
be
placed
would
be
placed
with
the
use
which
was,
which
was
what
last
meeting
was
supposed
to
be
about
her,
which
the
meeting
in
a
month
will
be
about.
We
don't
place
conditions
with
the
zoning
itself,
because
that
it's
just
not
how
the
process
goes,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
speaking
your
comments
and
and
informing
us
all
of
that.
D
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
that.
I
think
with
the
amount
of
interest-
and
I
have
received
a
lot
of
calls
from
the
applicants
or
the
people
interested
in
the
applicant's
case
and
then
also
the
adjacent
land
owners.
So
I'm
going
to
circulate
a
paper
and
if
everybody
here,
if
you
can
just
put
your
name
and
number
and
email
address
and
then
possibly
it
could
be
good
to
have
some
neighborhood
meetings
before
we
would
take
action
on
the
conditional
uses
before
then
before
the
board
of
adjustment
meeting.
D
I
I
As
far
as
like
right
now,
it's
with
the
storage
of
the
blades
without
a
conditional
use,
it's
really
a
zoning
compliance
issue,
and
so
staff
has
been
working
to
address
that,
knowing
that
they've
filed
a
conditional
use
now
so
yeah
it's
more
of
a
compliance
issue,
which
is
a
separate
issue.
Mr
chair.
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All
right,
thanks
for
that
clarification,
todd
and
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
the
purposes
of
the
i2
heavy
industrial
district,
and
I
think
annexation
is
the
issue
here,
but
also
protecting
the
residential
area
is
part
of
that
purpose,
and
it's
stated
quite
clearly
that
I
too
are
generally
not
zoned
in
in
a
budding
a
residential
area.
So,
while
the
homeowners
there
are
discussing
conditional
use
issues
really,
it
also
refers
to
the
fact
that
we
were
talking
about
a
nexin
in
i2
next
to
a
residential
area
which
is
specific
to
the
annexation
issue.
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C
G
Well,
when
it
comes
to
the
planning
commission
and
the
the
long-range
loose
of
long-range
use
of
property,
our
guiding
principle
should
be
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan
and,
throughout
the
several
years
of
review
of
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan,
this
property
was
long-range
land
use
plan
for
i2.
We
understand
that
it
is
a
budding
residential
development
that
is
located
outside
of
the
city
limits
of
watertown.
G
It
doesn't
mean
that
they
shouldn't
still
be
afforded
the
same
protections,
but
this
is
the
issue
that
happens
when
you
see
communities
grow
into
non-city
areas,
and
so
I
I
agree
diane
I
mean
this
is
a.
This
is
a
tough
one,
but
I'm
going
to
state
that.
I
believe
that
we
have
to
look
at
following
the
land
use
plan
which
identifies
this
as
being
an
industrial
use.
However,
perhaps
affording
some
opportunities
to
mitigate
impacts
on
the
joining
landowners
in
a
subsequent
conditional
use,
hearing
process.
K
K
Their
plan
was
to
have
a
minimum
amount
of
trains
per
year
anymore.
It
seems
like
there's
a
train
back
there.
It
seems
like
five
out
of
five
out
of
seven
days.
It
runs
behind
our
houses,
it
bangs
constantly.
Throughout
the
day
the
night,
you
can
no
longer
get
a
full
night's
sleep.
I
understand
if
it's
a
minimum,
a
minimal
amount
of
time
per
year
to
unload
cars.
That's
what
we
agreed
upon
when
this
all
come
ahead,
but
when
now
you've
got
a
train
station
back
there.
K
This
is
country,
that's
the
reason
we
moved
out
there
for
peace
and
quiet.
Now,
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
like
a
shipping
yard.
This
is
this
is
our
biggest
complaint.
The
train
comes
in
at
night.
They
park
behind
our
house
instead
of
going
into
a
more
vacant
like
the
northeast
corner
of
that
property,
where
there's
no
housing
and
that
train
will
sit
back
there
and
and
drone
all
night
long.
K
K
And
when
you
live
out
there
now
your
property
is
depreciated,
because
you
got
a
shipping
yard
behind
your
property,
I
mean
yeah,
the
taxes
don't
go
down
by
no
means
I
mean
it's
just
we
understand
I've
been
there
for
20
years.
It
was
peace
and
quiet.
Now
now
it's
it's
extremely
loud
all
day
long
every
day,
and
when
you
cannot
sleep
at
night,
that's
our
biggest
complaint
in
the
train.
I
mean
we
understand,
they're
noisy,
but
it
squeals
and
bangs.
When
it
unloads
all
night
plus
it
seems
it
sits
behind
the
houses.
K
K
K
D
Corner
yeah-
and
I
think
that
that's
where
utilizing
this
time,
if,
if
we
do
set
up
neighborhood
meetings,
where
maybe
we
can
propose
how
like
what
could
remedy
the
situation,
that's
right
and
then
and
then
those
could
be
implemented
during
the
conditions
for
the
conditional
uses
when
we
act
on
those
in
february.
Probably
so,
but
I
think
it
would
be
definitely
worth
it
where
we
can
come
up
with.
You
know
meet
with
with
all
of
the
adjacent
landowners
potentially
and
try
to.
D
K
F
I
have
a
suggestion.
I
know
this
isn't
part
of
the
annexation,
but
I
have
a
suggestion.
Another
part
of
property
of
watertown
that
has
trains
behind
it.
All
the
time
is
that
owens
addition
over
by
4th
avenue
just
north
of
4th
avenue
and
east
of
the
river.
You
know
where
all
them
townhouses
are.
You
know
how
do
they
feel
they
have
that
great
big
tall
fence
and
stuff?
How
do
they
feel?
Does
that
work
for
them?
I
would
suggest
to
go
and
talk
to
some
of
them
and
see
what
they
think.
K
K
K
K
A
A
E
Okay,
so
as
far
as
the
cargo
cars
trains
them
are
done-
and
I
do
apologize
that,
but
I
have
no
control
over
them
as
far
as
our
operation
at
watertown
crop
nutrients,
we
unload
cars
when
trains
come
in.
We
start
our
system
at
seven.
By
quarter
after
seven,
we
are
starting
to
unload,
usually
by
six
o'clock
at
night.
We
are
trying
to
be
done
with
our
unloading
procedure
to
give
our
neighbors
peace
and
quiet,
and
we
park
our
engines
on
the
north
side
of
our
building.
E
E
We
tried
to
contact
the
city
multiple
times
to
our
mayor,
to
find
out
what
we
needed
to
do
on
this
on
the
windblade
turbine
deals
never
received
a
call
back
in
october
of
19
I
sent
a.
I
called
in
left
a
voicemail
stating
that
if
I
don't
hear
something
on
what
we
have
to
do,
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
the
plan
a
month
and
a
half
later,
I
got
a
call
from
a
gentleman
from
the
city
stating
that
he
would
was.
E
E
E
H
B
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
fact
that
the
calls
came
to
the
mayor's
office
and
I
never
called
you
back
and
I
apologize
for
that.
I
did
pass
the
question
on
to
the
appropriate
staff
members
and
we
were
only
aware
of
the
the
concern
about
transporting
the
long
blades
and
was
that
going
to
be
an
issue.
So
apparently
the
message
wasn't
fully
received
so
apologize
for
that.
D
And
then
two,
I
just
wanted
to
refocus
the
discussion
again.
Just
because
those
are
all
discussions,
that'll
take
place
for
the
conditional
uses,
but
just
looking
at
the
land
itself,
looking
at
our
and
as
todd
had
alluded
to
earlier,
that
you
know
we
as
a
city,
we
do.
We
follow
our
comprehensive
land
use
plan.
It
is
shown
to
be
zoned
i2
and
as
long
and
you
know,
there's
certain
permitted
uses
for
an
i2
zone,
but
because
what
their
uses
are
require
conditional
uses.
D
That's
why
it
has
to
be
heard
by
the
board
of
adjustment
which
was
supposed
to
take
place
before
this
discussion,
but
then,
but
we'll
take
we'll
take
it
in
a
month
so
yeah.
If
we
just
refocus
the
discussion
that
way
and
then,
like
I
said
too
we'll
we'll
figure
out
how
we
can
come
up
with
some
resolutions.
In
the
meantime.
A
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
did.
I
did
pull
open
the
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan.
I
have
a
copy
of
it
in
front
of
me
and
I'm
looking
at
the
maps
and-
and
it
is
shown
in
the
future
land
use
plan
like
you
said
to
be
industrial,
and
it
I
mean
the
plan
goes
even
farther
south,
showing
rural
and
other
things.
We.
We
have
a
comprehensive
land
use
plan
that
we
look
at
every
couple
of
years
and
we
go
through
section
by
section
and
we
do
vet
that.
D
B
E
E
B
H
A
B
B
D
B
G
A
B
G
B
A
A
A
D
Yes,
thanks
jeff,
so
these
are
just
added
kind
of
last
minute.
Just
knowing
that
the
plan
commission
agenda
was
kind
of
light.
Just
to
give
you
guys
foresight
of
what
is
coming
for
development
wise,
I
do
for
see
there
to
be
a
lot
of
developments
coming
forward
as
well,
but
just
to
get
these
out
there
and
if
you
have
time,
if
you
want
to
you,
know,
take
take
extra
time
and
look
through
them
rather
than
when
you
get
the
agendas
the
week
or
five
days
before
the
meetings.
D
Just
so
you
can
make
it
work
with
your
schedules
as
well.
So
dakota
commons
will
be
looking
to
get
their
concept
plan
approved
for
the
portions
that
that
have
expired
from
their
previous
master
plan,
and
you
you'll
remember
dakota
commons,
we
just
recently
annexed
and
zoned
another
portion
of
it
yeah,
and
so
then
that's
why?
Then,
their
their
plans
were
their
preliminary
plan
and
now
that
we
amended
the
ordinance
now?
What's
the
concept
plan
that
comes
to
the
plan
commission,
that
became
effective
january
1
of
2021.
D
So
that's
where
it'll
be
the
condensed
information
for
the
concept
plan
that
will
be
acted
on
by
plan
commission
with
the
public
hearing,
and
so
then
that's
why
they
went
forward
to
the
annex,
annexation,
zoning
of
the
pud
and
then
now
we
need
to
get
their
subdivision
plans
updated
and
approved,
and
everything
we
did
bring
it
to
the
park
board
at
the
end
of
december,
and
that
was
all
approved.
If
you
guys,
I
mean
I
can
explain
that
to
you
when
we
bring
it
forward.
D
D
Although
we
would
like
to
eliminate
as
many
as
possible,
but
they
are
looking
at
options
for
the
future
that
they
that
they
could
do
some
through
streets,
and
so
I
could
see
that
changing
in
in
the
future
in
their
future
developments,
but
yeah
right
now
and
we
did
have
the
design
review
team
did
meet
and
we
did
bring
that
up,
but
there
as
isn't
anything
that
excludes
them
in
our
engineering
design,
standards
or
an
ordinance.
It's
definitely
something
that
we
try
to
avoid.
D
D
G
D
D
F
D
It
does
so
it
extends
a
little
bit
to
the
south
and
then
up
to
this
portion.
So
when
they
come
in
with
their
phase
one,
they
will
not
have
any.
So
we
still
will
have
to
enter
into
a
development
agreement
with
them.
The
streets
and
utilities
should
be
in,
but
they
will
have
some
drainage
requirements
that
will
still
include
with
that
and
then
also
sidewalks.
A
D
Yep
and
then
cac's
second
edition
is
also
one
that
we're
working
on.
We
are
it's
not
as
far
along,
but
just
because
we
do
have
it
in
our
possession
and
have
been
reviewing
it
just
waiting
on
some
follow-up
information
in
regards
to
their
wetlands.
More
so,
and-
and
we
also
do
need
to
bring
this
to
the
park
board
still
for
park
dedication,
this
is
also
a
little
you
it's
unique
because
they
are
proposing
low
density,
rural
residential
development
within
the
city
limits.
B
F
D
F
B
F
D
H
That
much
land
they're
gonna
want
build.
You
know
outbuildings,
and
you
know
I
think
we
should
have
a
set
of
rules
or
I
would
be
thinking
about
it
because
it'd
be
ideal,
like
you
said
to
be
able
to
walk
into
that
already
saying
you
know
we're
going
to
annex
it
in
as
our
you
know,
for
or
whatever
have
you
and
be
prepared
right
todd
put
your
thinking
cap
on
there,
but
what.
F
D
F
D
Are
they
well
and
it
depends
if
they're,
jurisdictional
or
non-jurisdictional?
That's
all
the
information
that
we
still
need,
so
it
it
is
a
little
it's
very
it's
premature
at
this
point,
but
all
good
things.
If
you
know,
if
you
have
a
moment
to
just
go
through
it
and
jot
down
thoughts,
provide
them
feel
free
to
send
them.
To
me
I
mean
it's
just
just
because
it
was
a
light
agenda
where
I
just
thought
I'd
give
you
guys
heads
up.
A
D
I
B
C
I
I
I
agree,
it's
unfortunate
that
it
happened
on
one
hand,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we
would
have
probably
still
been
wrestling
with
some
sort
of
an
agreement
between
the
property
owners
and
the
residential
people
and
how
that
property
was
going
to
be
buffered.
So
actually,
the
idea,
brandy
that
you
had
of
having
neighborhood
meetings,
etc
etc,
is
wonderful,
hopefully,
they'll
be
able
to
have
that
ironed
out,
and
it
would
make
that
conditional
use
meeting
the
first
of
february
possibly
go
a
lot
more
smoothly.
D
D
We'll
try
to
come
up
with
a
resolution
when
so
then
everybody
can
just
present
the
solution
and
you
guys
can
say
that's
great,
hopefully,
because
otherwise
I
do
feel
like
it
would
have
I
mean-
and
I
I
had
wondered
that
in
a
way
too,
that
there
was
there's
a
lot
to
this
these
applications,
so
it
might
have
ended
up
that.
We
would
have
postponed
action
anyway.
So
we'll
we'll
chalk
it
up,
because
that.
F
I
G
G
Not
for
a
railroad,
no
because
I'm
guessing
theoretically,
if
you
had
a
conditional
use
permit,
normally
you
would
just
attach
those
uses.
I
mean
the
ordinance
says
you
know
accessory
uses
are
those
things
that
are
generally
incidental
to
the
principal
use.
Well,
the
principal
uses
the
grain
elevator,
there's
not
many
grain
elevators
that
out
that
don't
have
access
to
a
railroad.
D
F
D
G
I
think
my
recommend
my
recollection,
because
I
was
around-
I
just
wasn't
at
those
meetings
at
this
time,
but
my
recollection
and
the
discussions
that
were
going
on
with
craig
atkins
and
and
and
those
people
at
that
time
was
that
you
know
there
was
going
to
be
a
railroad
spur,
because
that's
what
the
that's,
what
the
fertilizer
plant
was
going
to
need.
It
was
a
railroad
spur.
G
G
Well,
they
were
notified
when
there
was
a
public
hearing
on
the
on
on
the
annexation
and
the
discussion
of
there
being
a
railroad
spur
and
a
commercial
fertilizer
plant
to
be
developed
back
in
2010.
That
did
happen.
So
this
isn't.
This
isn't
brand
new.
I
mean
there
was.
There
was
a
public
hearing
on
the
initial
annexation
in
zoning.
F
G
F
H
The
beach,
whether
the
40
acres
was
a
a
mishap
and
not
it
just
wasn't
caught
at
the
time
you
had
it
not
had
it
been
caught
at
the
time
and
been
annexed
at
the
same
time.
We
would
that
wouldn't
even
be
an
issue
I
mean
or
what
we
did
right
now
but
and
it
all
would
have
been
zoned.
I
won
so
none
of
this
that
none
of
this
meetings
would
be
happening.