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Board of Adjustment - 04-22-2021
A
B
Is
absent
case.
B
C
B
B
Last
call
for
case
he
he's
on
teams,
they
must
meet.
Sorry,
sorry,
sorry,
okay
and
then
spire
and
ford
are
absent
and
we
do
have
a
quorum.
A
Members
present
we
have
a
quorum
third
item.
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
item.
Three
on
the
agenda.
3A
is
the
approval
of
the
revised
minutes
from
the
february
4th
2021
meeting.
Can
I
get
a
motion
and
a
second
for
approval,
so
moved
cohen.
A
D
B
A
D
A
Yes,
motion
carries
item
four
on
the
agenda.
Is
our
regular
agenda
for
a
is
board
consideration
of
a
consid
conditional
use
request
for
a
home
occupation
at
the
property
located
at
213
third
avenue
southeast
third
street
southeast?
Excuse
me,
within
the
r2,
a
single
family
attached
residential
district
for
a
catering
business.
B
Chapter
21
70.,
so
the
address
here
213
3rd
street
southeast
the
owner
is
lisa
converse
and
this
is
her
primary
residence
that
she
plans
to
operate
her
business,
which
is
charcuterie
element
and
is
a
catering
business
from
her
home.
So
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
to
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
that
introduction
I'll,
also
I'll
open
up
the
public
hearing.
Also,
if
there's
anyone
here
to
speak
in
favor
or
against
this
item,.
C
Mr
chairman,
yes,
could
I
just
briefly
interject
and
please
could
we
just
please
ask
anybody
calling
in
that's
not
muted.
Please
mute
your
phones,
we're
getting
a
lot
of
background
noise
here
in
the
in
the
meeting
room.
Thank
you
very.
A
B
E
B
I'm
not
aware,
but
I
don't
know
that
we've
ever
applied
those
to
the
conditional
use
through
the
city.
If
there
is
regulations
as
far
as
department
of
health,
I
would
imagine
that
they
would
pursue
that
through
the
state
agencies.
E
F
This
is
chip
with
the
fire
department.
There's
there's
no
issue
with
this
home
occupation.
It's
probably
used
it's
probably
not
it's
not
considered
a
commercial
kitchen
just
because
she's
selling
it
doesn't
actually
mean
that
it's
going
to
be
like
a
commercial
use
like
in
a
restaurant,
where
they
have
bigger
broilers,
deep
fat,
fryers
and
items
like
this.
So
no,
we
don't
have
any
issues
with
it.
E
If
she
was
to
go
big
or
go
better,
go
bolder.
Would
this
then,
would
you
guys
do
those
inspections,
then.
F
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you
for
those
comments
and
you
know
usually
when
we,
when
I
look
at
home
occupations,
I
look
at
how
will
they
affect
the
neighborhood?
You
know,
and
you
know
how
much
traffic
will
they
get?
How
much
you
know
noise
and-
and
you
know
how
much
does
it
disrupt
the
the
residential
nature
of
the
the
neighborhood?
A
And
you
know
something
like
this.
Where
it's
you
know,
you
know
the
hours
of
operation.
You
know
9
a.m,
to
six
p.m
and
it's
delivery
a
couple
times
a
week
or
customer
traffic
a
couple
times
a
week.
I
mean
I
feel
like
that.
You
know,
meets
the
general
characteristics
of
of
what
you
would
expect
at
a
residential
house.
B
Right
and
like
I
stated
too,
there
are
those
higher
standards
for
home
occupations
and
then
also
that
you
cannot
have
a
non-resident
employee
employed
on
the
premise,
and
you
know
no
extra
exterior
advertising
other
than
a
sign,
not
more
than
400
square
inches.
G
D
A
B
B
Approved
an
ordinance
amendment
to
add
the
auto
body
repair
shop
as
a
definition,
as
well
as
by
conditional
use
in
various
districts,
and
that
was
because
it
just
it
wasn't
in
our
ordinance
whatsoever.
So
that
is
why
this
request
is
before
you
that
that
mr
sharp
would
like
to
utilize
that
use
of
an
auto
body
repair
shop
with
that
I'll
open
up
for
questions.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
brandi.
You
said
that
property's
currently
owned
by
sharps
is.
Is
it
currently
part
of
the
auto
sales?
And
now
it's
going
to
the
auto
body
or
is
is?
Is
it
auto
body
repair
shop?
Is
that
what's
changing
there.
A
A
With
that
being
said,
I
will
open
up
the
public
hearing.
If
there
is
anyone
that
wishes
to
speak
in
favor
or
against
this
item,
please
feel
free
to
do
so.
B
And
then
they
do
have
the
existing
trees
that
are
there
and
then
I
believe
the
applicant
plans
on
planting
additional
trees
as
well
to
to
have
that
buffer.
So
but
yeah.
No,
we
did
not
hear
from
any
of
the
adjacent.
A
I
don't
see
anyone
approaching
the
microphone
here.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
inter
line
that
wants
to
speak
on
this
item.
G
Mr
chair
brandy,
do
you
know
some
of
the
the
mobile
homes
behind
that
property?
Is
that
a
a
lot
or
those
individually
owned
parcels.
B
So
there
it
is
a
court,
so
it
does
have
one
owner
and
then
I
don't
know
as
far
as
the
agreement
of
if
the
tenants
own
the
trailer
or
the
manufactured
home
to
be
more
specific
or
if
they're,
by
if
they're
rented.
But
it
is
just
one
property
owner
of
the
corp.
B
D
B
Yeah
and
unless
they're
expanding,
we
don't
know
if
they're
moving
that
or
what,
but
just
as
far
as
comparing
it
to
our
ordinance
today
that
since
they
are
wanting
to
utilize
this
use-
and
it
is
a
conditional
use-
so
that's
why
we're
reviewing
it
now
correct.
A
Thank
you.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
ask
for
a
motion
and
a
second
from
the
board
for
further
discussion,
so
move
colleen.
B
B
As
you'll
see
on
that
staff
report,
when
we
take
action
on
it,
we
should
you
know
obviously
we'll
take
action
on
the
conditional
use
and
then
on
the
variance.
But
I
think
that
I
will
explain
it
or
present
it
as
one
and
then
and
then
take
the
discussion
from
there
because
they
are
related
to
a
certain
agree.
A
certain
degree.
B
A
If
the
applicant's
here
and
they're
gonna
withdraw
the
variance
so
we're
just
here
today
for
the
conditional
use.
B
Yeah
and
then,
depending
on
how
you
know
there
are
five
conditional
uses
listed
and
then
if
it
comes
down
to
it,
and
it
makes
more
sense
to
take
them
individually
or
whatnot,
we
can
look
at
it
when
we
get
there.
B
Sounds
good,
so
this
is
for
the
stony
point
development.
This
will
just
be
for
conditional
use
requests,
as
the
variance
has
been
pulled
from
the
agenda
and
will
not
be
acted
on.
B
So
in
the
in
the
cl
district,
there
are
a
list
of
seven
conditional
uses
and
the
applicant
stony
point.
Investments
are
asking
for
the
following:
five,
so
motels
and
hotels,
automobile
parking,
lots,
storage
units
office
and
building
and
a
bar
tavern
for
the
property
generally
located
at
760
south
lake
drive
and
which
is
the
area
of
stony
point.
If
we
look
on
the
agenda
package-
and
let
me
share
my
screen
for
everyone
on
teams.
E
B
And
then
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
as
well.
So
this
is
the
area
that
we're
looking
at
parcel
one
and
parcel
two,
and
so
you
can
see
here
on
this
map,
and
then
I
do
want
to
clarify,
because
if
you
also
noticed
on
the
agenda
packet,
that
the
application
actually
stated
that
they
would
be
asking
for
a
music
venue
conditional
use
which
isn't
even
a
listed
conditional
use
in
that
district,
so
just
to
clarify
that
that
they
were,
they
are
not
asking
for
a
music
venue
conditional
use.
With
this
request.
B
A
Thank
you
brandi.
So,
with
with
this
request,
have
we
done
requests
like
this
before,
where
it's
for
a
whole
area,
not
specifically
a
lot
or
two
or
is
this?
Is
this
normal.
B
B
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
his
behalf,
but
it's
more
so
so
they
know
the
what
is
allowed
to
begin
their
design
process
before
moving
forward
with
that,
but,
like
I
said,
if,
if
you
want
to
call
the
applicant
up
and.
A
C
Mr
chairman,
can
I
interject
briefly,
I
was
gonna,
ask
mitch
here
when
he
gets
mitch.
Could
you
remind
me
so
I
can
let
the
people
on
the
phones
know
how
to
unmute
themselves.
Just
in
case
they
don't
know
what
is
the
key
sequence
for
unmuting.
C
B
Yeah
and
I'll
leave
this
screen
up
here
too
jeff.
So
then
you
can
see
if,
if
people
have
their
hands
up.
H
I'm
mike
lawrence,
I
represent
stony
point
investments
llp
the
sony
point.
Projects
have
been
up
here
in
front
of
you
guys
before
you've
seen
the
videos
we've
had
the
videos
up
for
a
couple
years
now,
as
far
as
what
we
planned
on
doing
with
this
parcel,
this
parcel
we're
looking
at
doing
hotel
mixed
use,
residential
commercial.
H
I
plan
on
eventually
moving
out
my
real
estate
office
out
there
as
well.
We
have
a
hotel
plan
that
we're
beginning,
but
this
is
the
beginning
of
this
phase
and
we
don't
want
you
know.
We
obviously
want
you
guys
to
bless
the
land
for
hotel
resort.
I
mean
this:
is
this?
Isn't
just
one
property?
There's
gonna
be
multiple
properties
on
here
with
the
same
owner
that
that
we
will
be
adding
amenities
as
far
as
indoor
outdoor
pools,
hotel
bars,
you
know
to
support
them
around.
The
marina
will
have
commercial
mixed
use.
H
We've
been
in
talks
with
gather.
They
would
like
one
of
these
little
sheds
out
there.
So
there's
a
lot
of
uses
that
we
want
to
put
out
in
this
area.
It
is
going
to
be
a
higher
density.
That's
been
our
plan
from
the
beginning
to
support
the
the
marina
and
support
the
construction
out
there,
so
that
that's
our
goal
here,
it's
just
kind
of
to
put
everything
back
into
one
one
par
parcel
and
make
it
kind
of
a
community
out
there.
So
that's
that's
our
plan
right
now.
H
We're
asking
for
the
blessing
of
the
land
to
have
a
bar.
Currently
I
could
put
a
restaurant
out
there,
no
problem.
The
difference
is,
I
can
serve
a
beer
in
there
and
that's
what
we're
asking
for
today
as
far
as
the
hotel
motel,
something
that
we've
wanted
to
do
since
the
beginning.
It's
been
in
our
original
plan.
You
know
office
buildings,
I
think,
is
a
lot
less
intrusive
than
something
like
that,
especially
my
real
estate
office.
H
I
mean
I
operate
out
of
a
really
tiny
one
now,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
I'll
open
it
up
to
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
We
are
going
to
be
starting
the
design
process.
We
were
going
to
ask
for
the
variance
right
now.
We
might
come
back
for
that,
but
right
now
I
believe
we
can
build
within
the
zone.
That's
our
plan
when
we
threw
the
marina
in
the
middle
of
it,
we
lost
that
land.
It
went
to
waters
of
the
state
and
that
gave
us
a
setback
off
of
that.
H
So
we
did
tweak
that
a
little
bit
here
on
wednesday
when
we
met
with
the
architects
they
think
we
can
still
fall
within
and
not
have
to
ask
for
any
other
variances
we're
trying
to
play
by
the
rules
here.
What
we're
asking
for
now
is
just
the
blessing
of
can
I
have
a
restaurant
out
there
that
serves
a
beer
and
can
we
put
a
motel
out
there
as
far
as
office
buildings
and,
what's
the
other
two
parking
lot,
you
know
for
the
marina
for
boats
and
things
like
that.
H
That's
something
that
we're
going
to
need.
That's
I
and
storage
units,
that's
something
that
the
condo
owners,
most
of
them,
are
moving
from
homes
and
they've,
never
they're,
always
asking.
Where
do
I
put
this?
One
guy
asked
me
where
to
put
my
lawnmower-
and
I
said
you
don't-
need
it
you're
at
a
condo
now
so,
but
I
mean
that's
that's.
What
we're
dealing
with
is
a
lot
of
people
are
moving
from
a
house
that
have
never
had
a
condo
they're.
H
Looking
for
something
to
put
it
in,
we
obviously
on
those
storage
units
would
would
want
to
keep
the
aesthetics
up.
We
would
be
willing
to
do
the
siding
the
brick
you
know
you
know
make
it
make
it
look
attractive.
We
this
area
is
a
20
million
dollar
built
out
condo
and
the
hotel
is
not
going
to
be
anything
less
than
that
for
sure.
H
So
we
want
to
keep
the
aesthetics
up
in
this
area
and
are
willing
to
do
that,
but
yeah
today
we're
just
asking
for
the
blessing
of
the
land
so
that
we
can
start
the
design
and
place
the
structures.
H
We
don't
know
whatever
the
land
will.
Support
will
will
supply.
You
know,
there's
restrictions
on
the
the
amount
of
traffic
that
we
have
on
the
road.
If
we
get
over
so
many
trips,
we
have
to
come
back
and
ask
for
a
variance
on
that
as
well,
but
yeah
we're
working
with
the
the
architects,
but
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
design
a
whole
hotel
to
come
up
here
and
have
you
guys
tell
me,
I
can't
build
the
hotel.
H
H
We
have
built
it
to
cities
specs.
You
know
that
we
have
went
through
engineering
with
it.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
so
we
have
the
ability
to
turn
it
over
to
city
streets
and
I
think
that's
our
end
goal
is
to
turn
it
over
to
the
city.
E
H
We
do
not
have
the
preliminary
plan
on
this
a
lot
yet
because
we
don't
know
what
the
uses
that
we
are
going
to
be
putting
on
there
are.
This
is
our
first
step.
The
next
step
will
be
the
preliminary
plan.
I
believe
we
have
to
bring
the
concept
plan
before
you
guys
before
we
move
forward
with
that.
This
is
just
the
first
step
in
designing
a
property.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
some
people
do
and
I
and
and
bob
honestly
bob
did
it.
H
He
engineered
an
entire
development
and
then
came
up
here
and
got
told
once
that
he
couldn't
build
it.
So
we're
going
to
follow
the
steps
in
the
order
that
I
I
guess.
I
believe
that
they
should
is
ask
for
permission
of
what
we
can
do
with
the
land.
Then
we'll
come
up
with
the
prelim,
our
concept
plan,
then
the
prelim
plan
and
I
think
it's
built
out
and
we
had
that
development
committee
that
came
up
with
this.
I
think
this
is
the
correct
way
to
do
it.
B
So
todd
what
you're,
recalling
the
preliminary
plan
that
shows
stony
point
drive
that,
for
that
was
for
last
one
and
two
of
stony
point
second
edition
to
be
able
to
provide
access
to
those
platted
lots
so
that
they
could
have
a
be
issued
a
building
permit
and
then,
but
for
the
rest
of
this
land
area.
It's
not
planted
yet
so
he
will
have
to
go
through
the
subdivision
process
of
a
concept
plan
and
then
may
and
potentially
showing
some
internal
street
connectivity.
But
that
would
be
something
we'll
look
at
at
that
time.
E
H
H
We
have
kind
of
laid
that
out.
Obviously
we
want
the
hotel,
the
restaurants
and
things
like
that
towards
the
lake
kind
of
in
the
corner
of
that
marina
and
the
lake
is
kind
of
our
goal
is
to
try
to
put
it
out
there,
which
also
puts
it
as
far
away
from
you
know,
terrace
and
as
far
away
from
mr
deboer's
as
possible.
H
E
If
the,
if,
if
the
thing
was
to
move
forward
and
conditions,
were
placed
that
that
the
the
planning
commission
or
the
board
of
adjustments,
reserves
the
right
to
address,
screenage
and
and
and
and
and
buffering
at
the
time
of
submittal
of
designs,
would
would
the
applicant
object
to
that.
H
We
wouldn't
object,
I
just
I've,
never
you
know,
I
said
on
this
board
for
two
years.
I've
never
heard
that
I've
never
seen
that
placed
on
anyone,
and
I
understand
that
we're
a
little
different
of
a
project.
E
E
We've
never
we've
never
taken
a
multi-use
concept
development
without
knowing,
where
something's
going
to
be
constructed.
I'll
just
use
my
own
example.
When
I
came
in
for
a
conditional
use
permit
for
my
office
building,
I
had
to
show
where
it
was
going
to
be
located.
What
I
was
going
to
be
doing
for
screening
was
adjacent
to
an
r1
district.
I
mean
so
I'm
just
trying
to
say
that
to
be
fair
to
everybody,
I
don't.
E
I
don't
object
to
the
concept
of
what
you're
wanting
to
do
out
there
as
far
as
the
promotion
of
of
the
hotel
restaurant
bar
tavern,
all
those
things.
I
think
we've
already
agreed
to
that
in
principle
when
we
zoned
the
property,
so
I'm
I'm
fine
with
that
and
I'm
not
and
I'm
even
fine
to
the
extent
that
if
we
were
to
bless
these
uses,
I
still
think,
though,
that
the
city
needs
to
claw
back
if
they,
if,
if,
if
necessary,
to
have
not
to
have
a
second
conversation.
H
And-
and
I
I
see
where
you're
coming
from,
unfortunately
for
us
to
design
that
process
our
project
and
get
get
the
building's
place
and
and
do
the
soil
borings
and
do
all
that
stuff
to
come
up
and
find
out
that
they
need
some
sort
of
a
thing
or
it's
going
to
be
turned
down
because
of
some
sort
of
screening
that
we
can't
provide
or
doesn't
work.
You
also
have
to
see
where
I'm
coming
from.
On
that
point,
too,
I
mean.
H
Of
thousands
of
dollars
that
get
put
into
a
project,
I'm
not
asking
I'm
asking
for
a
hotel
right
now.
The
other
uses
that
I
can
put
in
here,
legally
or
storage
shops
I
can
put
in
a
restaurant.
I
just
can't
serve
a
beer
at
it.
I
mean
I,
I
don't
think
what
we're
asking
for
is
egregious
at
any
any
purpose
of
this.
This
land
has
been
zoned
this
zone
on
purpose.
We
have
the
setbacks
that
were
in
place
when
this
zone
was
put
in
place.
H
I
would
say
that
putting
those
restrictions
on
this
property-
I
don't
I
see
where
you're
coming
from,
but
we
also
have
to
spend
a
ton
of
money
and
we
have
spent
a
ton
of
money
to
try
to
please
the
property
owners
around
there.
We
we
bought
land
to
straighten
a
road.
We
put
a
hump
in
to
straighten
this.
I
mean
every
time
we
come
up
here.
We're
asked
to
do
more
and
more
things
at
some
point.
E
Well,
that's
not
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
mike.
All
I
was
just
was
trying
to
understand
and
and
so
that
the
public
understands
that
we've
never
done
anything
quite
like
this
before
and
that
I'm
not
objectionable
to
what
it
is
that
you
want
to
do
on
the
property
I
do.
I
do
know
that
we
have
to
be
cognizant
about
light
spillage
and
we
need
to
be
cognizant
about
noise
and
we
still
have
to
answer
the
general
compatibility
which
I
think
if
the
use
is
allowed
in
the
ordinance
it's
generally
compatible.
E
H
Yeah,
as
far
as
noise,
I
mean
we're
going
to
have
to
follow
every
city
ordinance.
I
believe
that,
as
far
as
light
spillage,
you
have
design
standards
built
onto
that.
I
mean
those
are
things
that
you
put
in
your
design
standards
and
and
that's
why
we
adopted
this-
that
we
don't
have
that.
But
I
see
where
you're
coming
from,
and
I
guess,
if
you
guys
have
some
some
things
that
you
want
to
put
on
there-
that
I'd
rather
know
about
them
ahead
of
time,
but.
E
I'll
give
you
a
perfect
example.
Let's
say
we're
going
to
put,
I
don't
know:
half
an
acre,
an
acre
parking
lot
on
the
south
side
and
I
would
say,
and
it's
within
a
hundred
yards
of
mr
deboer's
property.
Maybe
the
reasonable
thing
would
be
to
say
that
you'd
say
well.
We
would
agree
to
fencing
so
that
the
lights
don't
shine
into
the
backyard
you
know
and
if
that's
what
that's?
E
What
I'm
saying
is
that
those
would
be
the
things
that
we
would,
but
if
we,
if
we
just
issue
carte
blanche,
the
the
parking
lot
without.
C
B
B
Yep
and
then
just
for
another,
just
a
reference
of
a
recent
conditional
use
that
we
saw
when
there
was
the
storage
units.
As
far
as
the
screening
goes,
you
know
they,
it
was
just.
B
They
were
advised
to
work
with
staff
that
they
do,
screening
on
the
north
and
the
west
sides
of
that
property
and
then
leaving
it
at
that,
because
it
was
a
narrow
setback
and
a
kind
of
a
drainage
way.
So
it
was
unique
in
that
way.
So
there's
just
something
to
think
about
as
far
as
if
you
do
place,
conditions
of
a
similar
situation.
H
I
guess
the
thing
that
I
would
ask
you
to
keep
in
mind.
Is
I'm
not
asking
for
the
ability
to
build
there?
I
can
build
their
at
today.
I
can
put
that
restaurant
in
there
I
can
have
music
at
my
restaurant.
I
can
have
parking
lots
on
next
to
everyone's
house
out
there
today,
as
it
is.
What
I'm
asking
today
is
for
to
allow
a
beer
to
be
drank
inside
that
restaurant
or
next
to
that
restaurant.
I'm
asking
for
a
hotel
to
be
able
to
be
built
out
there
that
will
fit
within
that
unit.
That.
H
B
So
if
that
you
know-
and
we
don't
show
on
the
concept
plan-
you
know
it's
conceptual
and
we
don't
ask
for
the
building
footprints
necessarily,
but
that
might
just
seeing
how
it's
configured
in
a
way.
I
think
that
they're
planning
on
doing
one
la
as
I
think
mike
has
stated,
but
there
was
there-
is
still
another
chance
to
kind
of
see
the
the
grand
scheme.
H
H
There
we've,
like
I
said:
we've
bought
more
land,
we've
straightened
roads,
we've
put
in
berms
for
people,
we've
agreed
to
plant
trees
for
people
we've,
we
we're
doing
drainage
for
tara
up
there,
we've
met
with
her
numerous
times
we're
trying
to
do
the
best
with
the
neighbors
that
do
want
to
work
with
us.
We
know
from
the
beginning
that
we
weren't
going
to
please
everyone
in
the
neighborhood,
but
we're
we're
doing
our
best
at
that.
This
is
a
a
big
thing
for
lake
compesca.
H
It's
going
to
give
hospitality
at
the
lake,
so
I
just
want
you
to
keep
in
mind
like
we
can
put
the
the
parking
lot
there.
Currently
we
can.
We
can
put
it
right,
mr
deboer's
backyard.
We
can
put
it
right
next
to
terrace.
We
can
do
that.
We're
not
choosing
to
do
that.
We're
just
wanting
to
the
ability
to
plan
our
development
as
it
works
out
for
us.
G
A
G
D
G
In
terms
of
in
terms
of
screening
building
height
those
kinds
of
things
lighting
noise,
this
is
the
time
and
place
to
do
that
right,
correct,
yeah,
okay,
and
I
understand
your
position
mike
I
get
where
you're
coming
from,
but
I
don't,
but
also
we
can
put
reasonable
conditions
on
you
for
the
uses
that
you've
asked
for
so
you
can
do
those
things
you
can
take
that
position
if
that's
what
you
want
and
without
some
guidance
we're
taking
a
shot
in
the
dark
with
with
whatever
conditions
we
make.
G
H
G
Tell
us
like
a
general
idea
or
something
because
you
know
these
folks
have
raised
concerns
they're
entitled
to
raise
those
concerns
and
we're
entitled
to
ask
the
questions
and,
if
necessary,
establish
reasonable
conditions.
B
We
did
when,
when
this
ordinance
was
adopted,
the
minimum
lot
area,
10
000
square
feet,
the
lot
width
100
feet,
the
required
front
yard
setback
is
30
feet,
side
yards
is
30
feet
and
the
rear
yard
is
30
feet
and
then
the
maximum
mean
height
is
35,
and
then
we
changed
it
to
where.
H
Okay,
so
if
you
take
35
feet
from
mr
deborah's
property
and
then
from
that,
you
just
take
that
straight
out:
35
feet:
okay,
and
then
you
use
a
setback
from
the
road
which
has
a
60
foot
right
away,
35
feet
the
there's:
no
building
going
there.
There
can't
be
there's
a
wetland
right
there,
there's
a
drainage,
ditch
that
runs
right
through
from
that
pond
over
to
there
we're
way
over
the
the
setback
that
you
guys
put
in
place
for
this
prop
for
this
cl
district.
We're
beyond
that.
At
that
point,
yeah.
H
H
Right
right
next
to
mr
deborah's
property,.
H
B
C
B
H
Going
back
to
you
liam,
I
mean
I'm
willing
to
work
with
you.
I
just
don't
know
what
you
want
me
to
we.
We
can't
place
a
bit,
I'm
not
going
to
place
a
building
here
so,
but
I
just
don't
want
restrictions
to
come
on
after
I
spend
that
kind
of
money
to
say
well,
yeah.
We
don't
want
that.
You
know
what
I
mean
like.
That's
that's.
What
I'm
looking
at
with
there's
a
there's,
a
large
chunk
of
money
that
we're
going
to
have
to
spend
to
get
this.
H
This
done,
we
can
build,
I
mean,
can
you
pull
up
the
cl
district?
What
we
can
build
currently
there
without
anything
I
mean,
I
don't
think
he
would
want
us
to
build
storage
shops
there.
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
these
people.
We
can
do
a
campground,
we
can
do
recreational
use.
We
can
do
restaurants,
we
can
do
service
establishments,
recreation
facilities.
All
of
these
are
allowed
in
this,
without
coming
up
here,
tell
me
that
these
are
going
to
be
any
less
obtrusive
a
restaurant
or
a
restaurant
with
a
beer.
G
H
H
A
C
You
know
it's
a
question
about
the
the
bar
and
tavern
brandy
or
or
mats
in
relation
to
the
way
that
we
normally
grant
bar
and
tavern
conditional
uses.
Typically,
we
would
grant
it
to
the
physical
footprint
of
the
building,
correct.
B
Not
always
a
lot
of
the
times
on
the
recent
applications
it
has
been.
It
depends
on
what
type
of
structure
it
is.
If
it's
like
a
strip
mall
where
they're
renting
a
space,
then
they
do
it
just
within
the
confines
of
the
bar
tavern,
but
if
they
own
the
property,
they
do
include
the
entire
property
so
that
they
could.
C
D
D
That's
through
actually
what's
called
the
sidewalk
cafe
process.
So
that's
where
a
bar,
a
restaurant,
has
a
license
and
then
they
can
go
out
into
the
public.
Right-Of-Way
they're
given
what's
called
a
sidewalk
cafe,
permit
it's
an
application
process
and
then
they're
they're
able
to
it's
limited.
It's
limited
to
strictly
adjacent
to
that
that
business
so
anyway
long
story
short
that
wouldn't
necessarily
apply
here
because
it
wouldn't
you
know
it's
not.
It's
not
contemplative
for
this
type
of
use.
H
I
guess
it's
very
similar
to
the
liquor
license
that
I
applied
for
for
harry's.
I
applied
for
the
whole
legal
description.
That
way
I
could
do
I
could
serve
outside
both
my
patios
are
included
in
my
legal
description.
This
is
going
to
have
a
boardwalk
marina
that
we
plan
on
having
around
it
things
like
that.
That's
why
these
are
added
on
here.
That's
why
we're
going
with
this?
We
don't
know
where
we're
going
to
place
the
building
on
the
property,
specifically
until
we
do
the
design
of
of
the
property.
H
H
Right
now
we
we're
thinking
there
will
be
a
more
of
a
beachy
bar
there'll,
be
a
higher
end
bar
and
then
maybe
even
like
a
speakeasy.
That's
in
there.
E
E
I
think
it
would
maybe
help
your
request
mike,
even
though,
yes,
you
can
go
out
and
do
some
of
these
things
carved
launch
if
you
had
a
blob
on
a
map
that
just
shows
this
is
where
I
think
the
hotel
might
go,
or
this
is
where
I
think
the
the
the
storage
units
might
go.
This
is
where
I
have
a
general
idea
or
here's
the
three
types
of
things
that
we're.
Considering
that
I
can
do
that.
E
E
Well,
if
you
do
this
general
concept
area,
these
are
the
things
that
we
would
maybe
want
you
to
think
about,
and
that's
the
give
and
the
take
again
I'm
supportive
of
what
you're
doing
here
and
I
just
think
there
might
be
a
way
that
might
make
it
easier
for
you
to
you
know,
sell
some
of
the
members
of
the
board.
H
And
I
understand
that
it's
it's
tough
to
design
a
building
without
having
the
ability
to
know
what
you
can
design
and
it's
as
tough
in
your
position
to
not
put
conditions
on
something
that
you
don't
have
designed.
So
I
mean
it's
a
cart
before
the
horse.
You
know
the
chicken
and
the
egg
thing,
but
you
also
have
to
keep
in
mind.
You
know
the
probably
the
worst
one
that
you're
you're
worried
about.
I'm
guessing
is
the
bar
tavern.
H
Right
now,
right
now
we
could
build.
If
you
go
in,
isn't
storage
shops
a
a
permitted
use?
We
can
build
storage
that
right
now.
Currently
there.
E
H
H
E
H
H
B
B
H
B
Oh
okay,
and
but
this
then,
when
you
look
at
setbacks,
that
really
would
not
be
a
buildable
space
and
then,
if
we
had
the
right
of
way
in
there,
let's
see
we
should.
B
B
Okay,
yeah:
I
can
pull
that
up
too,
but
obviously
we
don't
have
it
updated
on
here.
A
Is
there
any
other
questions
from
the
board
members
to
the
applicant
as
as
he's
still
at
the
podium?
You
know
because
if
not
I
mean
the
public
hearing
is
open
and
I
would
like
to
to
let
someone
else
talk
to,
but
but
first
is
there
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant.
J
I
have
a
couple
mike
your
condo
owners.
Are
they
aware
of
the
restaurant.
H
H
J
H
J
I
know
you
can
yeah
okay,
there's.
J
It's
going
to
be
by
the
marina;
it
only
makes
sense
that
it's
going
to
be
by
the
arena,
because
I
don't
want
to
drag
it
20.
You
know
a
long
distance,
so
I
kind
of
get
where
mike's
coming
from.
I
mean
you're
going
to
set
it
up,
logically,
so
as
high
as
any
idea
how
many
rooms
of
the
hotel
tell
my
story.
H
H
B
H
Yeah
yeah,
if
storage
is
an
issue
that
I
mean
you
don't
want
us
renting
out
storage
units,
we
we,
we
would
be
more
than
fine
with
the
storage
shops,
and
that
is
a
permitted
use
currently
in
the
in
the
zone.
D
Another
one
of
my
major
concerns
is
everything
you
got
you're
going
to
have
150
condos,
you
assume
two
cars
per
condo,
you're
gonna
have
a
four-story
hotel,
which
is
probably
going
to
be
a
hundred
rooms.
So
you
assume
one
car
there
per
room
and
you're
gonna
have
a
restaurant
that
will
seat
100
to
200
people,
which
is
one
to
two
hundred
more
cars
with
one
road
in
and
one
road
out.
H
We
have
to
follow
the
traffic
count
that
that
road
is
built
for
other
than
that
we
have
to
you
know
when
we
do
the
preliminary
plan
that
would
come
up
within
that,
so
we
would
have
to
follow
what
that
is.
If
we
go
over
that
traffic
count
that
that
roads
approved
for
we
would
have
to
come
in
and
get
a
variance
from
you
guys.
H
A
A
G
G
Mike
I
want
to
be
clear,
I
don't
I
don't
disapprove
of
any
of
it.
I
think
generally
approve
of
all
of
it.
I'm
just
trying
to
you
know
if
now's
the
time
to
say
put
trees
on
the
south
side
of
the
property
trees
outside
property.
Did
you
say
you
were
okay
with
the
design
standards
in
the
commercial
lake
district
for
all
these
properties.
H
Correct
yeah,
we
do
not
plan.
At
this
point
I
mean
we
haven't
got
into
the
design.
Obviously,
but
at
this
point
we,
you
know
as
far
as
light
spillage
as
far
as
noise.
As
far
as
you
know,
we
don't
we're
not
asking
for
a
variance
today
we're
asking
to
build
a
allowed.
I
can
build
the
restaurant,
I
can
build
the
storage
shops.
Currently,
I'm
asking
to
serve
beer
in
it
and
house
people
out
there
on
compescu
in
a
hotel.
H
For
residential
siding
or
yeah
yeah
everything
out
there,
everything
will
have
residential
flight
facing
out
there.
I
mean
all
of
our
buildings
right
now
currently
are
sighted
have
glass
or
you
know
masonry
brick,
I
mean
if
you
look
at
the
the
renders
of
stony
point,
that's
a
that's
a
20
million
dollar
building
that
we
want
to.
You
know
we're
not
going
to
put
a
steel
shed
next
to
it,
and
we
can't
because
of
your
design
standards.
B
B
Point
though
liam
we
don't
have
that
it
says
to
face,
it
does
say
immediately
adjacent,
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
facing.
H
Yeah
we're
we're
not
we're.
Okay
with
the
residential
finishes
on
all
of
our
buildings
out
there,
and
if
we
don't
you'll,
see
us
again.
B
G
H
Says
bob
says
we
have
no
problem:
planting
20
trees,
we're
planting.
You
know,
ups
by
tara's
as
well.
We've
we've
discussed
that
with
her.
You
know
we're
working
with
her
as
well,
so
yeah.
We
have
no
problem,
planting
10
or
20
trees.
If
that's
what?
If
that's
what
you
want?
If
you
want
us
to
do
fencing,
it
looks
like
it's
100
feet.
Yeah
we
got
a.
We
got
a
pretty
good
area.
H
We
can't
even
use
there
if
the
the
one
thing
that
is
is
he
he
requested
that
we
build
a
berm,
so
we're
going
to
be
planting
trees
on
top
of
a
berm
or
around
a
berm.
So
we
would
have
to
work
around
that
berm
a
little
bit.
H
That
was
accounted
for.
No,
he
told
us
if
we
built
a
berm
that
we
would
he
would
be
fine.
Then
we
built
the
berm
and
he
didn't
think
the
berm
was
big
enough
or
long
enough
or
wide
enough.
So
if
trees
are
the
the
solution
of
this
problem,
we're
more
than
willing
to
plant
10
20
15
trees,
whatever
whatever
appeases
the
board
here,
we're
not
trying
to
make
waves,
we're
just
trying
to
develop
the
property
similar
to
the
vision
that
we've
had
for
a
couple
years
now.
C
Mr
chairman,
I'd
leave
it
up
to
you,
but
I
the
reason
I
objected
or
interrupted
brandy
earlier
when
she's
bringing
up
the
neighboring
property
on
his
comments
is.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
the
question
at
that
moment
was
addressed,
but
perhaps
now
is
appropriate
time
to
bring
up
the
neighboring
property's
comments.
If
you
would
agree.
A
Yeah,
I
think
at
this
time
I
think
I'll,
the
public
union's
open,
and
I
think
I
would
like
to
to
hear
from
some
of
the
other
people
that
wish
to
speak
on
behalf
or
against
this
item,
including
the
letter
that
we
received.
We
did
receive
a
letter
from
casey
deboer.
I
believe
stacey
was
going
to
summarize
it
for
us
and
for
the
record
she
wouldn't
mind.
K
Sure,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
will
do
my
best
to
summarize
this.
This
is
from
casey
deboer.
He
does
live
at
6205,
prairie,
hills
avenue
and
he
writes
dear
board
members.
I
am
sorry
that,
due
to
work
conflict,
I
am
unable
to
attend
the
meeting
in
person
today
to
speak
about
the
multiple
conditional
use,
approvals
and
variants
sought
by
this
20-point
developers.
K
He
is
wishing
to
share
his
perspective
and,
in
summary,
he
is
concerned
about
the
approval
of
the
conditional
uses,
without
specifically
addressing
the
required
elements
that
are
required
in
the
a
through
h
criteria.
He
goes
on
to
say.
I
don't
think
that
you
as
a
body
should
put
the
cart
before
the
horse.
K
K
So
a
few
things
that
he's
concerned
about
would
be
the
height
of
the
buildings,
specifically
where
they
would
be
placed
mitigation
of
noise
and
light
pollution,
screening
and
size
buffering
that
type
of
thing
for
all
of
the
particular
uses.
K
In
summary,
he
does
mention
quickly
about
the
berm,
so
I
guess
I
can
read
that
portion
since
it's
been
discussed
last
year,
when
asking
you
for
approval
of
the
road
project
for
the
developer,
committed
to
and
added
berms
and
plantings
between
the
development
and
my
property
and
the
property
of
others,
he
did
so
sort
of
he
built
an
eight
foot
berm
and
an
eight
foot
deep,
ditch
on
the
boundary
between
our
properties.
K
Unfortunately,
if
you
build
a
berm
in
a
ditch,
you
have
kept
your
word
to
build
a
burn
but
have
not
met
the
intent.
The
top
of
the
berm
built
has
the
same
elevation
as
a
road
bed.
It
is
screening,
absolutely
nothing
and
is
a
pointless
pile
of
dirt.
I
have
urged
the
developer
to
build
berms
on
adjacent
higher
elevation
on
multiple
occasions
only
to
be
rebuffed.
K
He
goes
on
to
talk
about
the
land,
use
conflicts
and
how
this
is
the
first
cl
district.
So
with
that,
he's
just
urging
the
board
to
ask
for
more
specifics
and
the
and
consider
the
impacts
of
the
requested
variances
before
something
is
granted.
D
I
just
got
a
text
from
the
divorce
or
from
stacy
and
she
was
saying
that.
Well,
yes,
that
would
be
great
for
a
landscape,
but
our
landscaping
guy
said
trees
probably
won't
even
grow
on
that
berm
rain
will
just
run
off.
Maybe
there
are
areas
that
will
what
casey
asked
for
was
berms
and
trees
a
little
further
out
on
higher
elevation.
That
would
actually
make
a
difference
quote.
A
I
I
And
so
our
property
actually
goes
from
south
lake
drive
all
the
way
behind
to
prairie
hill,
so
we
are
almost
right
right
in
front
of
or
behind.
However,
you
want
to
choose
of
mr
deborah's
property.
While
we
are
not
a
j
we
are
adjacent,
we
are
not
next
to
our
land
does
not
touch
that
land,
but
we
can
see
it
every
day.
I've
been
dealing
with
the
construction
for
almost
a
year.
Now
I
get
the
permitted
uses
already
there.
The
seal
district
is
there.
I
can't
do
anything
about
that.
I
I
Now,
I'm
extremely
concerned
what
would
happen
if
the
motel
and
the
bar
tavern
is
gonna,
be
there
right
now
the
condo,
the
marina
fine,
it's
gonna
look
nice,
I
think
that'll
be
enough
for
the
roads
to
handle
the
the
hotel
and
the
bar
would
be
very
damaging
to
already
our
quality
of
life
that
has
been
damaged
out
there
because
of
the
noise,
the
traffic
everything
I
think.
Notwithstanding
the
construction
30
to
40
percent
traffic,
increase
people
out
there,
looking
what's
going
on,
I'm
sure,
they're
thinking,
I'm
glad
I
don't
live
out
here.
I
I
I'm
glad
mr
deboer
sent
that
letter.
He
was
very
eloquent
and
I
would
agree
with
all
of
his
statements.
Last
year
I
looked
back
at
the
paper.
They
said
he
has
tried
to
find
reasonable
solutions
with
the
adjacent
property
owners.
No
one
has
ever
reached
out
to
us
personally
to
see
how
we
will
be
affected.
That
would
seem
to
be
a
proper
thing
to
do
to
say:
hey.
How
can
we
help
you
not
deal
with
the
noise,
the
traffic,
the
lights?
Things
like
that?
Nothing
has
happened.
I
I
do
urge
you
to
vote
no
on
this
conditional
use
and
protect
the
homeowners
in
the
area.
We've
kind
of
been
left
out
of
the
discussion.
You
know
they're
saying:
oh,
we
can
just
do
this,
and
this
and
this
they're
not
really
giving
us
any
any
thought
what
concessions
we
made
for
the
homeowners
out
there.
We
have
to
live
there
every
day.
I
L
Bob
drake,
the
developer.
I
just
want
to
explain
some
things
as
far
as
how
the
location
of
the
property
is
and
how
you're
looking
at
it.
So
if
you
take
casey
deboer's
place
and
you
take
ms
johnson's
place,
they're
both
up
on
a
hill,
you
couldn't
build
berm
high
enough
to
to
take
care
of
that.
You
can
screen
as
far
as
what's
down
immediately
next
to
them,
you
can
plant
trees,
you
can
do
whatever
in
there
and,
like
I
said,
we
can't
build
back
in
there.
L
L
Mars,
it
doesn't
matter
how
high
we
are,
but
I'm
just
saying
from
a
view
standpoint,
I'm
not
sure
what
you
can
do
if
you've
been
up
and
driven
that
area.
You
see
the
pond
that
we
have
off
to
the
side,
and
we've
worked
with
dennis
arnold
to
make
that
a
very
nice
entrance
as
far
as
coming
in
and
you
have
a
really
good
view,
it's
not
our
purpose.
It's
not
our
plan
to
make
anything,
that's
going
to
be
ugly
or
unbearable
or
whatever.
L
L
So
it's
just
that
we
don't
know
you
know
from
you
were
talking
about
parking
well,
there
are,
you
have
requirements
for
parking,
we
have
to
meet
those
requirements.
The
question
is:
is
okay,
so
how
do
we
do
that
and
that's
what
we
have
to
turn
our
architect
loose,
to
be
able
to
figure
out?
L
It's
not
something
that
that
you
can
do
easily
and
there's
a
big
cost
associated
with
it,
and
so
the
idea
of
it
is
is
to
have
an
idea
that
okay,
if
we
go
ahead
and
plan
this
development,
can
we
do
it,
you
know.
Are
we
going
to
run
into
you,
spend
all
the
money
to
do
that
part
and
then
not
be
able
to
proceed.
L
L
F
You
know
if
you
look
at
that
property.
I
see
that
you
know
right
over
there.
The
prop
has
a
beer
tavern
license
the
the
noise
concern
this
stuff.
You
know
this
is
a
high-end
property.
It
looks
to
me
they're
not
going
to
have.
F
I
don't
foresee
them
wanting
to
have
a
loud
music
venue
all
the
time,
because
for
what
you
know,
the
condo
people
are
spending
on
a
condo
and
what
the
you
know,
the
hotel
people.
You
know
I
I
know
people
that
own
hotels
and
they
don't
want
to
have
a
loud
noise
venue
going
on
all
the
time
to
disturb
their
guests.
F
A
A
I
think
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
from
the
board.
Further.
A
So,
as
far
as
you
know,
I
guess
I'm
going
to
say
my
thoughts
on
this.
You
know
I
I
it's
a
tough
one.
You
know
it's,
you
know
you
make
them
to
do
the
design
of
everything
and
then
potentially
say
no
or
do
you
try
to
figure
some
of
that
out
ahead
of
time
and
then,
but
not
know,
really
know
what
you're
saying
yes
to
so
that
that
makes
it
a
a
six
one
way:
half
a
dozen,
the
other
way,
type
of
situation.
So
it's
really
tough.
A
A
A
But
having
said
that,
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
thing
if
we
somehow
reserve
the
right
to
say
you
know
we
could
ask
for
fences
or
trees.
Later
I
mean
it'd
be
something
that
you
know
wouldn't
hinder
the
buildability
of
it,
because
you
know
if
there
can
fit
a
hotel
on
there
and
meet
setbacks.
Well,
then
they
could
fit
a
fence
in
there
also
or
trees,
but
that
would
that
would
give
us
a
way
to
maybe
you
know
protect.
A
You
know
if
there's
an
you
know
if,
after
it
starts
developing,
if
there's
a
account
house
or
a
condo
right
next
to
the
hotel,
then
maybe
we
could
put
a
fence
there
or
something
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible
or
if
that's.
B
B
You
know
you
would
have
a
chance
there
and
I
think
the
main
part
I
mean
that
the
cl
district
was
created
to
allow
for
commercial
infill
development
around
lake
compesca
and
lake
pelican,
and
obviously
we
know
that
those
are
primarily
developed
with
single-family
homes
or
just
we'll
just
say
residences
so
and
we
did
implement
the
setbacks
and
we
kept
it
consistent
where
we
thought
it
was
appropriate
if
you
were
going
to
be
next
to
a
residential
property
that
you
would
have
specific
aesthetic
guidelines.
B
G
Thanks
chair,
I've
spent
the
last
20
or
so
minutes,
looking
at
the
ordinances
cl
district
and
the
ordinances
generally,
and
I
and
then
comparing
that
with
mr
devore's
concerns
with,
I
feel
like
the
ordinance,
as
you
guys
are
talking
about,
addresses
almost
everything
you
know.
We.
G
G
A
E
I
just
want
to
confirm
what
I
seconded
the
motion
on
that
was
a
motion
of
the
motion
maker
to
approve
the
hotel
bar
tavern
parking
lots,
storage
units
and
office.
Is
that
correct.
A
Yes,
there
was
the
yes,
it
is.
E
E
E
There
are
rules
and
requirements
contained
in
other
sections
of
the
ordinance
that
generally
address
what
it
is
that
they're
proposing
to
do,
which
would
give
us
some
belief
that
that
things
are
going
to
be
okay
out
there,
and
based
upon
that,
I
I
will
support
the
motion.
J
I
would
like
to
make
just
one
comment:
please
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
were
on
the
board
when
I
was
on
the
board
previously
when
mr
drake
came
with
this,
and
he
probably
wanted
to
hang
me
from
a
tree
back
then,
because
I've
fought
tooth
and
nail
to
preserve
that
territory
and
we
went
round
around
so
for
those
of
the
out
there.
That
may
not
know
some
of
the
history
that
mr
drake
and
I
have
I
shot
him
down
several
times
about
developing
this.
The
way
he
wanted
to
develop
it.
J
It
went
from
everything
from
a
few
residential
homes
to
a
bunch
of
residential
homes,
and
I
guess
I
think,
with
this
plan
he's
sometimes
I
scratched
my
head
and
wondered,
but
I
think
that
their
intention
is
for
the
public
at
this
point,
and
I
I
am
totally
there
you're,
I
don't
feel
that
you
can.
I
mean
it,
makes
it
tough
to
have
a
restaurant
number
one
and
then
to
have
a
restaurant
that
is
not
able
to
serve
alcohol.
J
J
So
I
think
it
just
kind
of
goes
within
enjoying
the
lakefront
and
that's
what
they're
trying
to
do
is
to
make
the
lake
accessible
to
not
only
other
watertonians
but
to
the
general
public
all
the
way
around,
so
that
that
I'm
not
you
know
I,
I
guess
I've
bob
has
proved
himself
sometimes
to
go
over
and
beyond,
and-
and
I
think
that
I'm
going
to
put
my
faith
in
him
because
I've
asked
him
before
to
do
so-
that
it's
not
going
to
turn
into
a
mess
out.
J
There
I
mean
yeah,
the
traffic
has
increased,
but
the
traffic
was
going
to
be
increased
if,
if
we
would
have
10
years
ago,
five
years
ago,
whatever
it
was
approved
the
residential
homes,
because
he
was
going
to
put
a
pile
of
them
out
there,
so
traffic
is
traffic
and
I
would
have
loved
to
have
seen.
I
think
we
thought
about
two
ways
in
I'm
kind
of
a
two-way
you
know
one
in
is
is
kind
of
tough,
but
that's
what
got
passed
and
that's
where
we're
at
today.
So
it's
time
to
move
forward.
A
A
You
know
too
much
potential
and
we
said
you
know
for
for
the
lake,
there
should
be
a
list
of
what
uses
are
available
at
the
lake,
and
so
the
this
project
kind
of
sat
on
hold,
as
as
the
city
looked
at,
what
what
ordinances
would
be
best
to
help
develop
our
lake
and
what
would
be
appropriate
to
build
around
there
while
still
protecting
the
nature
of
the
lake
and
the
city.
So
appreciate
you
bringing
up
the
history
of
it.
A
D
A
I
H
F
A
Drunk
we
are
adjourned
a
couple
minutes
and
we'll
start
the
plan.