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Public Works, Finance and Safety 5/17/21
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E
C
B
Second,
by
why
any
discussion
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Anyone
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
the
public
comment
period?
This
is
the
time
set
aside
for
anyone
who
would
like
to
make
a
public
comment
to
step
forward
and
do
so.
We
do
have
a
sign
up
sheet
over
there
for
in-person
comments
and
a
policy
for
all.
If
anyone
wishes
to
speak,
please
come
forward
or,
if
you're
online
say
permission
to
speak,
is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak?
B
B
B
G
Absolutely
thank
you
mayor,
so
the
council
could
recall
we've
entered
into
similar
such
agreements
in
the
past
years.
2020.
We
did
something
similar
primarily
due
to
the
staffing
shortage
that
we
had
the
engineering
division
of
public
works
2019.
We
also
had
a
similar
agreement
just
to
help
accomplish
and
carry
out
the
workload
throughout
the
construction
season
for
2019
both
of
those
years.
I
believe
we
did
something
similar
in
the
dollar
amount.
I
know
we
did
in
2020
up
to
50
000.
G
However,
we
only
spent
roughly
half
that
between
2019
and
2020
we
only
went
up
to
about
40
some
grand
between
those
two
years
combined.
So
we
don't
anticipate
needing
this
full
50
grand,
but
what
we're
proposing
it
for
this
year
has
to
do
with
a
multitude
of
things.
One.
We
need
some
assistance
on
third
avenue
when
we
do
the
mill
and
overlay
and
new
sidewalk
placement
because
of
the
sidewalk
assessment
that
we're
performing
with
that
project.
G
G
If
you
guys
have
met
recently,
john
bonkowski
is
our
new
licensed
surveyor
works
for
the
city.
There
is
still
a
little
bit
of
a
learning
curve
that
he's
accomplishing
as
we
speak.
Learning
the
instrumentation,
the
handheld
survey
device
equipment,
the
electronic
instrumentation
that
we
use
now
today
is
something
a
little
bit
different
than
what
he's
accustomed
to
which
isn't
abnormal
in
the
survey
realm,
where
surveyors
spend
years
on
a
certain
way
of
doing
things
and
then
when
they
get
into
something
different,
it
becomes
new
to
them.
G
G
Our
recently
hired
staff
again
as
you've
met
most
all
of
have
come
with
a
whole
breadth
of
experiences
and
the
reality
is
they're.
Civil
engineering
cad
skills
need
a
little
sharpening
and
they
would
all
admit
that
if
they
were
sitting
here
in
front
of
us
today,
and
so
we
would
like
to
utilize
idg
to
help
with
that
autocad
training
to
help
sharpen
their
cad
skills
for
the
civil
engineering
realm
of
work
that
they
will
be
performing,
that
we
want
them
to
start
performing
for
us
in-house.
G
But
we
do
need
some
training
to
to
accomplish
that,
and
so
a
good
portion
of
this
50
grand
if
we
use
that
much,
would
end
up
going
towards
training
for
autocad
purposes
as
well.
We're
not
asking
for
any
new
money
here.
I'd
note
that
as
well
between
the
212
cip
fund
and
the
operating
expenses
that
we
have
for
engineering,
we
would
expect
to
code
any
subsequent
task
orders
that
idg
performs
to
those
existing
budgeted
funds
for
2021..
G
B
Thank
you,
and
I
I
should
add
a
number
of
years
ago
when
we
first
got
civil
3d.
The
entire
staff
upstairs
in
the
engineering
department,
got
some
training
from
a
consultant
that
was
familiar
with
in
using
the
software
and
what
resulted
was
a
really
great
personal
relationship
for
bouncing
ideas
off
and
answering
questions.
So
we've
done
that
before
councilwoman
you
pretty
much.
G
You
know
it's
it's
definitely.
There
are
several
places
you
could
go
to
accomplish
this
training
you're
exactly
right,
councilman
manti
and
you
know
you
go
directly
to
the
autocad
folks
themselves,
who
give
outstanding
trainings
we
do.
We
are
confident
that
the
idg
staff
they've
actually
done
this
before
for
staff.
C
B
And
you
want
to
post
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
dd.
I
put
your
item
is
after
d
item
c:
is
approval
of
construction
change
order
number
one
with
gray
construction
for
the
wastewater
treatment
administration,
building
project
number
1917
for
an
increase
of
twenty
six
thousand
two
hundred
seventy
five
dollars
for
a
new
project
contract
amount
of
three
million
five
hundred
thirty
six
thousand
two
hundred.
Seventy
five
dollars
have
a
motion
by
holleen
and
a
second
by
albertson,
and
I
will
ask
the
public
works
director
heath
von
I
to
tell
us
about
it.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
This
is
change,
order
number
one
for
the
new
admin
building
out
of
the
wastewater
treatment
facility.
I'd
note
that
mike
berger
and
I
believe,
marcy
luno
and
then
justin
are
all
online
with
us
here:
marcy's
the
project
manager,
assisting
the
wastewater
division
with
this
project-
mike's,
of
course
very
familiar
with
it
as
well.
G
Essentially,
what
this
change
order
is
accomplishing
it's
addressing
some
of
the
cost
overruns
and
also
some
credits
or
deductions
that
we've
incurred
to
date.
The
project
is
getting
close
to
completion,
but
we're
a
little
ways
out
yet
from
that.
So
we
wanted
to
get
one
of
these
change.
Orders
processed.
G
We
will
be
bringing
a
final
change
over,
hopefully
in
the
next
couple
months.
This
project
is
on
track
to
be
completed
a
little.
I
think
there
will
probably
be
a
month,
maybe
two
past
the
completion
date,
so
we
will
be
negotiating
some
liquidated
damages
later
on
and
having
those
conversations
between
our
consultant
and
the
contractor,
but
as
of
right
now,
this
is
just
more
of
a
routine
progress.
Change
order
to
keep
up
with
the
changes
in
and
work
on,
the
site
with
that
mike
and
justin
marcy,
and
I
will
all
stand
by
for
questions.
B
G
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
absolutely
terry
kelly
park
and
rec
director
has
been
working
with
justin
peterson,
the
assistant
city
engineer
on
this.
What
this
relates
to
is
the
work
at
city
park,
the
parking
lot
area
and
the
boat
launch
area.
If
you
recall
back
in
2019,
we
hope
to
do
some
parking
lot.
Repairs
to
city
park,
the
high
ground
water
conditions,
the
high
lake
elevations
that
we
incurred
throughout
the
years
simply
prohibited
the
work
from
being
accomplished
and
then
subsequently
in
2020
same
thing
very
high.
G
Groundwater
conditions
did
not
accommodate
for
this
parking
lot
work,
so
we
didn't
dare
go,
dig
into
this
work
and
potentially
create
a
bigger
mess
than
what
we
started
with.
So
we
put
it
off
again
last
year,
and
now
this
year
it's
looking
a
lot
more
favorable
in
being
able
to
accomplish
the
project.
The
reason
for
the
increase
is
that
we've
expanded
the
scope
of
work.
We've
got
additional
areas
that
we've
recognized,
need
repair
in
the
parking
lot
area
and
would
like
to
include
those
in
the
project.
G
They
found
it
agreeable
with
them
to
move
forward
with
the
2019
pricing
that
they
gave
us,
and
this
would
just
be
a
straight
line
increase
in
cost
based
on
the
2019
pricing
in
asphalt,
and
I
believe
that
covers
it.
Oh
this
I
forgot
to
mention
the
last
item:
the
waste
water
that
was
within
budget
by
the
way
this
one
is
mostly
within
budget.
We
ended
up
creeping
over
about
six
grand
over
the
budget
amount
and
tk
has
indicated.
He's
got
other
resources
from
his
other
212
funds
that
he
can
pull
that
extra
six
grand
thumb.
E
G
Yeah
there
won't
be
any
major
reconstruction
like
that:
councilman
hoyer,
where
we'd
be
doing
any
grade,
changes
simply
more
of
a
patching
and
replacement
of
existing
surfacing.
F
Just
a
comment
I
drove
through
there
last
night,
I'm
so
glad
to
see
that
this
is
this
is
getting
addressed.
Finally,
so
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
do
have.
I
do
have
one
question
not
related
to
this
particular
item,
but
your
last,
the
last
sentence
or
second
to
last
sentence.
After
the
change
order,
there's
approximately
225
000
remaining
work
to
complete
city
park.
What
what
is
anticipated
there,
heather
or
tk,
if
he's
online.
G
So
that
that
amount
councilman
vilhauer
is
essentially
what
is
left
to
do
all
the
work
in
city
park.
So
all
the
patchwork
is
going
to
cost
that
two
and
a
quarter
essentially,
is
what
that's
saying.
G
C
Yeah
the
it's,
basically,
what
would
be
the
south
east
corner
of
the
the
parking
lot
and
the
entrance
would
be
replaced
and
that's
the
area
that
we're
talking
about
replacing.
F
B
E
B
F
B
H
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
council,
thank
you
for
waiting
for
me,
my
apologies,
so
the
item
in
front
of
you
is
a
request
for
an
additional
eleven
thousand
dollars
for
a
floor,
replace
replacement
project
at
the
library.
H
We
had
attempted
to
kind
of
do
this
in
phases,
so
this
would
have
been
the
first
phase
and
with
the
idea
of
saving
taxpayer
money,
and
when
we
went
to
begin
the
pha
this
phase
of
the
project,
we
discovered
that
there
were
some
issues
with
the
where
the
seams
lie
in
the
current
carpet,
and
it
was
really
challenging
to
find
out
of
the
myriad
availability
of
carpet
colors,
something
that
would
match
with
the
rest
of
the
carpet
in
the
library,
as
well
as
the
potential
remainder.
H
So
if
you
have
the
diagrams
in
front
of
you,
the
first
one
just
shows
the
two
main
quarters
in
the
library
and
the
the
current
carpet.
The
second
one
shows
the
proposal
for
us
to
just
kind
of
replace
the
middle
t
of
the
carpet.
If
you
will
that's
the
highest
highest
traffic,
but
it
also
has
the
potential
for
some
tripping
issues
as
the
transitions
from
the
carpet
to
the
tile
have
been
worn
down
over
the
years,
and
that
was
my
biggest
concern
for
the
project
and
how
we
wanted
to
prioritize
that.
H
So
we
can
remove
that
obstacle.
In
the
library
we
did
have
a
young
staff
member
who
did
have
a
card
of
books
dumped
over
on
the
lip.
So
we
wanted
to
really
make
sure
that
this
project
goes
through
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
get
an
additional
eleven
thousand
dollars
for
the
project.
H
So,
instead
of
just
a
little
tea,
we
can
just
complete
both
quarters
of
carpet
for
the
library
and
then
we'll
have
the
same
carpet,
tiles
and
everything
so
that
we
can
just
replace
tile
biotile
in
the
future
and
not
have
to
go
through
a
larger
project.
Like
this
one.
C
H
In
the
budget
yeah
the
budget,
it
was
budgeted
for
18
500
and
that
project
without
the
additional
carpet
was
quoted
under
that
which
I
thought
was
great
at
16
900.
Something
but,
like
I
said,
we're
really
hoping
we
can
get
the
full
carpet
from
end
to
end.
If
you
will,
we
do
have
a
very
beautiful
library,
it'd
be
nice
to
be
able
to
have
that
all
looking
nice
and
then
also
be
safe
for
the
public.
H
D
At
our
library
board
meeting
we
did
discuss
this
and
felt
like
the
safety
issue
would
be
worth
the
ten
thousand
dollars.
You
know
it's
hard
to
know
when
to
start
and
when
to
stop
on
these
projects,
but
I
think
in
this
case
it
would
be
well
warranted
if
kristin
can
find
the
extra
11
000
to
go
ahead
with
this.
At
this
point,.
C
Thank
you
so,
with
this
project
being
as
it
was
budgeted
and
it's
more
of
a
overage,
my
suggestion
would
be,
if
the
council's,
in
agreement
with
that,
that
we
would
do
it
as
a
contingency
transfer,
which
then
would
come
out
of
the
general
fund's
unreserved
cash
balance.
B
A
Really,
I
think
I
mean
for
commercial,
carpeting
and
traffic.
I
think
this
is
a
really
nicely
defined
project.
Actually
you
know
it's
the
hallways
and
we're
not
talking
about
spilling
over
or
whatever,
and
I
would
have
to
agree
with
dan
that
I
would
like
to
see
the
library
both
look
good
and
function
safely.
So
I
would,
I
would
be
in
favor
of
extending
the
extra
money.
F
Question
procedurally,
I
don't
beli.
I
don't
believe
this
is
on
the
regular
council
agenda.
Do
we
need.
I
C
So
I
would
take
this.
This
would
not
fall
probably
into
the
capital
improvement
fund.
I
think
we'll
take
this
out
of
the
general
fund
on
reserve
fund
balance
that
one
is
sitting
pretty
good.
You
know
the
general
fund
did
take
in
the
5.5
million
of
the
cares
act
funding
last
year
in
2020,
so
it
can
handle
this
eleven
thousand
dollar
overage
at
this
time,
and
we
also
do
budget
the
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
contingency,
so
that's
always
kind
of
equated
for
in
the
cash
balance
as
well.
C
So
with
this
being
a
contingency
transfer,
we've
kind
of
incorporated
that
cash
already.
Thank
you.
C
H
Yes-
and
we
are
planning
to
get
a
certain
number
of
boxes
over
with
that
in
mind,
because
they
don't
know
you're
from
here,
if
they'll
be
able
to
get
us
the
same
carpet,
that's
just
the
the
way
the
industry
goes.
E
I'm
I'm
definitely
in
support
of
this
as
well
same
reasons.
Everyone
stated
just
wanted
to
say
we
popped
in
saturday
and
it
was
really
lovely
for
the
kids
so
excited
to
see
some
of
those
new
things
coming
for
the
kiddos
that
you're
planning
so.
H
I
B
G
Thank
you
mayor.
This
is
a
presentation.
Here,
it's
been
a
little
while
in
the
works,
if
you
recall,
we
entered
into
an
agreement
with
south
dakota
dot
and
selected
a
consultant
hdr
to
perform
a
transportation
master
plan
update
for
the
city
watertown
that
has
been
progressing
nicely
throughout
2020.
G
We've
had
to
make
a
few
unique
modifications
to
that
schedule
due
to
kovid
and
and
some
of
the
meetings
and
and
frankly,
some
of
the
transportation
that
the
traffic
activities
that
we
saw
pretty
much
come
to
a
halt
in
2020.
G
At
certain
points,
we
realized
and
our
design
professionals
realized
that
wouldn't
be
a
good
time
to
perform
some
of
the
data
collection
that
we
normally
would
be
doing,
and
so
we
had
to
put
off
some
of
that
work
until
a
more
opportune
time,
which
has
now
come
to
pass,
and
today
I
have
with
us
here-
dustin
hamilton
and
tom
cook,
from
hdr
dustin's
been
the
project
lead
on
this
for
us
as
an
hdr
representative
working
closely
with
steve,
graham
with
south
dakota
dot,
and
tonight
they
would
like
to
provide
a
precursor
to
the
draft
document
that
we'll
be
receiving
here
in
the
coming
weeks
and
also
make
a
few
announcements
about
the
public
comment
period.
J
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council.
As
heath
mentioned,
I'm
dustin
hamilton
the
project
manager
with
hdr
and
tom
cook's
done
the
lion's
share
of
the
traffic
analysis
for
us
so
glad
to
have
tom
here
to
answer
any
questions
today
too.
So
the
the
purpose
of
our
presentation
today
is
to
introduce
the
project
to
you.
Some
of
you
have
been
involved
as
part
of
the
study,
advisory
team
and
others
that
haven't
so.
I
want
to
give
you
an
update
on
what
we've
done
for
the
existing
conditions.
Analysis.
J
The
future
conditions,
analysis
standards,
development
that
was
part
of
the
scope
and
public
involvement,
and
then
the
road
map
to
the
the
finish
line
here
and
as
steve
sorry,
heath
mentioned
steve,
graham
with
the
dot,
is
the
project
manager
for
the
dot.
I
am
the
consultant
project
manager
and
several
of
you
thank
you
for
your
participation
in
the
project
to
date
as
well.
We've
had
dot
area
staff
involved,
as
well
as
dot
region
staff
and
then
other
members
of
hdr
here
with
our
study
team.
J
It
will
impact
your
transportation
network
and
this
update
reviewed
all
modes
of
travel,
including
highway,
bicycle
pedestrian,
transit,
air
and
freight
and
targeted
goals
for
the
20-year
2040
planning
horizon
our
scope
and
tasks
with
this
project
included
the
baseline
conditions,
analysis,
which
looked
at
the
current
network,
the
standards
development,
which
was
kind
of
the
catch-all
for
several
issues
that
were
identified
in
the
rfp,
including
the
the
review
of
transportation,
related
design
standards.
J
The
major
street
plan
update
a
review
of
maintenance
practices,
including
pavement
maintenance
and
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
plan
facility
review
and
update,
and
then
what
we
did
was
took
a
look
at
what
the
future
year
traffic
volumes
are
going
to
be.
We
looked
at
a
10-year
or
2030,
and
then
a
20-year
2040
planning
horizon
to
identify
any
growth
related
or
capacity
needs
that
we
see
that
you'll
be
facing
in
the
future.
Another
significant
component
of
the
scope
was
public
involvement
and
then
the
last
deliverable
is
the
final
report.
J
And
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
an
idea
on
the
the
roadway
segment
and
intersection
analysis,
we
like
to
grade
that,
if
you
will
similar
to
a
school
grading
scale
where
a
is
good
would
be
free
flow
operation
and
f
is
bad
or
a
traffic
jam,
and
so,
as
we
get
into
some
of
these
figures,
you'll
be
able
to
see
the
street
segments
and
intersections
where,
if
they're
coated
green
they're
in
good
shape,
if
they're
red
it's
bad
shape,
so
just
to
kind
of
to
preface
that
what
you'll
see
here
coming
up
in
the
next
couple,
slides
and
overall,
your
current
network
performs
very
well
as
you
can
see
on
the
map.
J
Oh
okay,
so
up
here
you
can
see
up
on
14th
avenue,
10th
avenue
and
then
kemp
avenue
here
we're
starting
to
get
into
that
80
to
100
capacity
range.
And
so
those
were
the
only
real
segments
where
we
thought
there
might
be
some
needs
kind
of
heading
into
the
future
conditions,
analysis
and
so
to
move
right
into
that.
We
conducted
the
same
review,
but
we
looked
at
the
future
year.
J
Traffic
forecast
so
using
growth
factors
from
coddington
county,
taking
a
look
at
your
comprehensive
plan
and
trying
to
identify
where
that
growth
is
going
to
occur
and
taking
those
traffic
volumes
forward
into
the
future.
J
We
reviewed
this
the
same
network
but
with
the
new
traffic
volumes
and
identified
where
we
really
need
to
target
and
focus
those
improvements
in
the
future
and
no
surprise.
Some
of
the
similar
segments
started
to
appear,
however,
in
2030
a
couple
of
those
segments
reached
that
capacity
threshold,
that
being
14th
avenue
and
then
kemp
avenue
and
10th
avenue
then
still
shows
up
in
2030
as
in
that
80
percent
range.
J
But
then,
once
we
get
into
2040
on
the
second
graphic,
that
10th
avenue
section
meets
capacity
as
well,
which
is,
is
pretty
timely,
with
what
you're
doing,
because,
based
on
what
we
understand
with
the
10th
avenue
improvements.
What
your
staff
has
proposed
here
with
the
three-lane
section,
should
set
you
up
for
success
through
the
2040
planning
horizon
without
any
issues
going
to
the
three-lane
section,
so
good
work
on
on
that
project.
Good.
B
J
And
then
we
also
looked
at
several
of
the
the
study
intersections
as
well.
There
were
five
intersections
that
begin
to
show
congestion
and
relation
reach
unacceptable
levels
of
delay,
based
on
the
existing
intersection
configuration
a
few
of
those
are
noted
right
here:
north
maple
and
14th,
the
u.s
212
ramp
terminal
for
the
southbound
direction,
u.s
212
and
23rd
street
southeast
29th
street
southeast
and
15th
avenue
and
81
and
18th
avenue.
J
So
what
we've
then
done
is
taken
a
look
at
some
of
the
improvements
that
would
need
to
be
done
to
address
those
capacity
issues
and
what
we've
come
up
here
for
most
of
the
street
segments,
simply
installing
a
turn
lane
or
a
two-way
left
turn
lane
or
a
left
turn
lane
at
the
major
intersections
in
most
cases
are
going
to
address
your
long-term
needs
on
a
segment
basis.
So
that's
pretty
darn
good
news.
J
J
G
Big
dustin,
if
you
could
go
back
to
that
last
slide,
I
was
going
to
reiterate
you
touched
on
this
too,
but
like
the
level
of
service
that
drops
on
like
14th
avenue
over
the
years,
luckily
up
there
we're
so
wide
that
we
can
easily
go
in
and
stripe
in.
These
designated
left
turn
lanes
at
certain
intersections
and
then
that
dramatically
increases
that
level
of
service
back
up
to
an
acceptable
level
for
the
community.
G
Some
of
these
we've
already
noticed
in
a
very
started
conversations
on
seeing
the
traffic
back
up
in
certain
areas
of
these
streets,
and
so
we'll
continue
to
monitor
these
things,
and
I
guess
the
point
I
was
trying
to
make
there
is
that
we've
got
that
flexibility
to
make
some
of
these
modifications
and
improve
that
level
of
service
without
having
to
go
on
and
widen
roads
like
we're
having
to
do
on
10th
avenue
for
the
most
part.
That
seems
to
be
the
case.
So
that's
good
news.
J
So
that's
the
volume
to
capacity,
so
the
the
volume
is
the
the
current
in
the
in
the
existing
conditions.
Analysis
versus
in
the
2013
2040
is
the
forecasted
volume
and
then
the
capacity
is
a
threshold
that
we've
used
based
upon
the
facility
type
so
for,
for
instance,
for
like
a
three-lane
section,
the
upper
threshold,
a
three-lane
section,
can
handle
about
that
fourteen
thousand
trips
a
day
so.
J
And
we've
summarized
the
the
needed
improvements
in
a
chart
in
a
map
which
is
available
on
our
current
online
public
meeting,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
that
a
little
plug
ahead
of
time.
So,
if
you
haven't
had
a
chance
visit
the
the
current
public
meeting
that's
going
on,
I
will
give
a
little
bit
more
information
about
that
here
in
just
a
second.
J
The
next
item
that
we
worked
on
was
the
standards
development
segment
of
the
study.
We
looked
at
the
major
streets
and
roadway
classification
system,
the
truck
route
network,
emergency
and
hospital
snow
routes,
pavement
maintenance
and
rehabilitation,
the
design
standards
and
development
coordination.
Where
we
looked
at
the
current
city's
design
standards,
as
well
as
a
few
transportation,
related
development
items
that
the
staff
has
made
us
aware
of
overall
traffic
level
of
service
and
then
bicycle
and
pedestrian
review
as
well.
J
So
the
first
one
is
the
the
major
streets
and
roadway
classification
system.
We
took
a
look
at
the
the
classifications
in
the
current
functional
classification
map
with
regard
to
the
comprehensive
plan
working
with
staff
to
make
some
updates
there,
so
both
documents
correspond
to
one
another
very
well.
J
We
also
took
a
look
at
the
truck
route
network
and
reviewed
the
current
truck
route
ordinance.
I
don't
believe,
there's
an
official
truck
route
map
right
now
with
your
ordinance.
So
what
we've
looked
at
here
is
putting
together
a
map
and
then
provided
some
considerations
for
the
truck
route,
ordinance,
basically
identifying
here
the
u.s,
212
and
us-81
corridors
highway,
20
and
then
also
based
on
discussions
with
staff.
J
What
we
found,
of
course
is
pavement
is
a
significant
asset
to
the
city.
I
think
that
2017
study
identified
that
that
asset
has
a
value
of
approximately
138
million
dollars,
so
a
big
asset
for
the
city
that
needs
proper
management,
so
it
can
remain
in
good
shape
and,
and
that
study
did
identify
at
the
time
that
the
the
current
payment
condition
index
for
the
city
was
at
a
61
or
a
good
rating,
and
that
falls
within
what
most
communities
that
these
types
of
studies
go
on,
that
have
a
good
rating.
J
It
appears
that
you
have
been
budgeting
that
2.4
million
annually,
since
that
has
been
done.
So
basically,
what
we
had
recommended
is
that
you
would
come
back
and
do
another
survey
to
validate
that.
What
you,
what
you
had
thought
was
going
to
happen
is,
in
fact
happening
and
the
condition
of
those
streets
is
staying
in
that
good
range,
and
we
also
found
out
during
our
last
sat
meeting
that
I
think
you're
planning
to
to
do
that
inspection
yet
this
summer.
J
J
Then
we
took
a
look
at
the
the
design
standards,
as
well,
specifically
for
transportation
related
design
criteria.
Overall,
the
standards
that
you
adopted
in
2020
are
comprehensive,
they're,
very
consistent
with
some
of
the
other
communities
in
the
in
the
region.
J
A
couple
of
those
include
for
traffic
impact
studies,
adding
some
components
with
regard
to
access,
control
and
access
spacing
and
then
also
addressing
multimodal
and
bike
or
pedestrian
facility
improvements
that
those
developments
may
need
to
make
in
order
to
tie
into
your
system
and,
finally,
adding
you
have
a
turn
lane
design
numbers,
but
you
didn't
have
a
graphic
or
a
figure
that
kind
of
lays
out
how
to
design
the
turn
lane
in
accordance
with
those
warrants
that
you
have,
and
so
we
proposed
a
figure
that
could
be
added
in
that
would
help
with
the
turn
lane
design
as
well,
and
then
some
of
the
items
on
development
coordination
that
we
identified
talking
with
staff
were
with
regard
to
sub
subdivision
connectivity
and
potential
missed
opportunities
between
subdivisions
where
you
may
have
a
subdivision
next
to
each
other,
and
they
didn't
tie
a
street
together,
and
so
you
have
to
go
around
the
network
to
get
you
know
across
the
across
to
the
next
development.
J
Half
streets
was
another
one.
This
is,
what's
shown
just
an
example
showing
up
there
on
16th
avenue,
where
there's
a
half
street
in
place,
rural
cross,
section
streets
or
streets
with
no
curb
and
gutter
when
to
pave
gravel
roads,
and
then
there
are
several
streets
that
have
wide
rights
away
in
town
that
are
above
what
the
current
standard
would
be
and-
and
there
may
be
some
opportunity
there
to
right
size
if
you
willed
it
right
away
and
narrow
it
up
and
turn
some
of
that
property
back.
J
As
far
as
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
system
plan.
We
looked
at
the
2002
sidewalk
study
in
the
2012,
watertown
master
trail
plan
and
basically,
what
we
did
here
was
to
try
to
target
a
few
improvements,
not
necessarily
recreate
the
wheel
on
the
new
trails,
but
look
at
some
items
where
it
would
enhance
the
network
without
a
huge
cost
as
you'll
see
in
in
that
memo.
You
know
if
you,
if
you
built
all
those
trails,
it's
a
big
number.
So
we
wanted
to
look
at
what
we
could
do
for
the
key.
J
J
The
north
north
american
city
transportation,
officials
designing
for
all
ages
and
abilities
guidance,
and
then
one
thing
that
we
found
here
in
the
in
the
region
that
really
builds
well
off
of
the
fhwa
guidance
was
the
the
city
of
boulder
colorado,
crossing
treatment,
guidelines
and,
and
they
are
recognized
in
the
region
for
identifying
some
solutions
that
are
are
built
off
that
fhwa
platform.
J
As
far
as
the
key
intersections
and
crossings
go,
we
reviewed
that
2012
feeder
linkage
network
as
it
was
called
and
looked
at
improvements
with
regard
to
any
pedestrian
connectivity
issues,
sidewalk
gaps,
ada
accessibility,
any
pedestrian
safety
issues
and
for
each
of
those
50
crossings.
We
identified
a
proposed
crossing
treatment,
and
this
just
gives
you
an
idea
of
those
crossings
that
we
looked
at
and
and
provided
some
suggestions
for.
J
We
also
looked
at
a
few
key
mid-block
crossings
that
would
hopefully
improve
some
access
to
schools,
those
locations
to
possibly
consider
for
mid
block
crossings.
Two
of
them
are
on
11th
there
by
the
high
school
and
lake
area
technical
institute,
where
we
have
parking
lots
and
facilities
across
the
street
from
each
other,
as
well
as
down
on
4th
avenue
southeast
between
2nd
and
3rd
street
southeast
near
the
the
roosevelt
elementary
school.
J
As
far
as
the
off
street
trails
go,
we
do
believe
that
you
have
a
strong
network
of
existing
off-street
trails
and,
as
I
mentioned,
we
really
as
far
as
that
goes
provided
some
additional
detail
and
then
brought
the
costs
up
to
current
2020
levels
and
then
did
provide
some
options
for
key
trail
crossing
locations
using
different
treatments.
So
again,
you'll
see
a
table
with
proposed
solutions
for
those
crossings
to
enhance
visibility.
J
Finally,
here
on
on-street
bike
facilities
on
there's
four
existing
shoulder
on
street
routes,
we
considered
additional
on-street
or
shoulder
routes
based
upon
the
existing
right-of-way
widths
that
you
have
available
on
the
network,
traffic
speeds
and
volumes,
and
then
the
adjacent
land
use
context
so,
where
you
have
higher
more
higher
intensity
land
use,
that's
an
area
where
we
wouldn't
necessarily
want
to
focus
on
an
on-street
facility,
but
we
did
identify
six
possible
new
corridors
using
conventional
bike
lanes,
a
buffered
bike
lane
or
in
some
instances,
even
a
bicycle
boulevard
where
basically
use
the
sharrows
and
cars
and
and
bikes
can
leverage
the
same
space
because
the
traffic
volumes
are
so
low
and
then
the
final
item
on
the
bike
pad
was
the
the
sidewalk
network
gaps.
J
J
What
we
do
is
recommend
a
two-tier
system
for
that
for
implementation,
tier
one
being
those
feeder
linkage
or
main
pedestrian
routes
and
then
on
school
routes
as
well,
and
then
tier
two
would
be
everything
else
and
the
the
dollars
are
quite
large
when
you,
if
you
were
to
try
to
go
in
and
build
all
these
sidewalks.
So
we
certainly
recommend
trying
to
implement
those
with
your
pavement
maintenance
projects
when
you're
in
neighborhoods
and
things
like
that
and
some
other
communities
have
budgeted,
because
it
is
a
priority
for
them
a
separate.
J
J
Finally,
public
involvement:
we
do
have
a
project
website-
that's
active
www.watertownmtp.com
we've
due
to
covet,
of
course,
had
two
public
meetings
through
this
website.
The
the
first
meeting
was
in
january.
We
did
have
233
views
on
that
meeting,
which
we
thought
was
pretty
good
attendance
in
conjunction
with
that
public
meeting
number
one.
We
also
had
an
online
transportation
needs
survey.
J
There
were
29
respondents
that
took
time
to
complete
that
survey
and
it
was
a
17
question
survey
and
I
think
we
did
get
some
good
feedback
with
regard
to
transportation
needs
that
the
community
thinks
is
necessary
and
then
public
meeting
number
two
is
currently
going
on
right.
Now,
it's
going
through
in
detail
the
transportation
futures
solutions
that
we
we
talked
about
today
and
it
will
run
through
the
end
of
the
month.
J
J
One
citizen
was
interested
in
some
of
the
engine
break
signage,
based
on
some
issues
that
they
they
have
out
there
on
the
east
side
of
town,
and
so
we
did
forward
that
comment
on
to
the
dot
area
office.
But
that's
the
only
comment
we've
received
so
far.
So
if
you
go
on
to
the
home
page,
it
looks
just
like
this.
You
can
just
click
on
the
online
meeting
link
and
there's
a
presentation
and
then
all
of
the
memos,
with
the
detailed
analysis
are
available
on
online
and
finally,
just
wrapping
up
here.
J
Basically,
we
are
here
in
may
doing
the
online
public
meeting
too
we're
working
on
assembling
the
draft
report
right
now,
so
once
online
meeting
number
two
wraps
up
here
at
the
end
of
the
month,
we'll
put
a
summary
together
and
hopefully
get
the
draft
report
submitted
to
the
staff
and
the
study
advisory
team
for
review
in
june.
J
Give
them
an
opportunity
to
go
through
the
report
provide
any
comments
that
they
have
and
then
ultimately
get
that
final
report
submitted
in
july.
So
I
know
that
was
a
lot
going
on
here,
but
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
at
this
point
and
hopefully
you'll
get
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
that
online
meeting
and
participate.
E
So
just
because
we
touched
on
it
with
the
bike
trails,
the
on-street
ones
have
always
been
a
concern
for
me
just
because
we
don't
have
buffering
between
those
and
they're
on
pretty
busy
roadways
and
when
you
have
young
riders,
such
as
six
to
seven-year-olds
they're
a
little
bit
shaky.
So
look
between
the
three
suggestions,
you
kind
of
have
that
you
mentioned
buffering
a
little
bit.
Is
that
one
of
the
more
maybe
sought
after
routes,
if
we're
not
going
to
take
it
off
street?
E
J
Yes,
that's
certainly
one
option
and
that's
kind
of
showing
in
this
lower
right
corner
here,
where,
basically,
you
get
some
striping
in
there
get.
You
know
three
or
four
feet
and
try
to
separate
that
traffic
a
little
bit
and-
and
it
certainly
is
more
comfortable
than
the
center
one,
where
it's
a
traditional
bike
lane,
where
you
know
the
traffic's
right
there
beside
you,
so
that
definitely
will
lower
the
level
of
traffic
stress
that
you
feel
by
having
a
buffered
lane
in
there.
E
Sure,
I
guess
for
me,
I'm
asking
more
so
buffered
as
in
an
actual
physical,
so
there's
there's
almost
like
I've,
seen
it
with
boulder
because
boulder's
such
a
good
example
of
how
they
handle
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
but
the
actual
physical
metal
kind
of
it's
almost
like
a
flower
planter
in
a
way.
It's
just
one
of
those
concerns
with
cell
phones
and
distracted
drivers
these
days
to
have
something
that
they
can
physically
tap
before.
It's
actually
a
bike.
J
We
have
looked
at
it,
and
this
is
one
example
here.
If
you
can
see
on
the
picture
that
we've
identified
also
for
pedestrian
as
well,
where
you
could
put
in
like
a
curb
something
like
that,
where
there
would
be
a
physical
barrier
as
well.
So
that's
certainly
something
that
we're
looking
at.
E
E
They
rode
it
on
their
bicycles
but
yeah,
but
they
yeah
it's
just
cool
to
see
because
we
do
have
a
really
expensive
bike
trail.
It's
just
making
sure
we
have
a
safe
one
and
maintained
one.
A
Just
to
piggyback
on
that,
I
know
that
some
of
our
bike
trails
crossed
some
fairly
significantly
busy
areas.
It
was
hard
to
tell
from
you
know
maybe
the
drawings
and
things
like
that.
What
were
some
of
the
possible
solutions
in
that
plant
treatments
as
it
were,
to
enhance
those
pretty
busy
crossings
there,
where
the.
J
So
one
solution
is
the
hawk
system
which
you
have
one
out
here
up
on
highway,
81
right
now,
where
you
have
the
basically
a
pedestrian
full
blown
pedestrian
signal.
You
have
other
opportunities
to
install
like
rapid
flashing
beacons.
That's
something
that's
shown
here
where
the
user!
J
Sorry,
my
timing-
must
be
off
here
where
the
user
can
hit
the
activation,
and
then
you
get
rapid
flashing
of
the
beacons
there
or
the
other
thing
that
we've
identified
in
some
of
the
locations
would
be
a
refuge
island,
if
necessary,
to
shorten
up
the
the
crossing
width.
So
you
don't
need
to
cross.
You
know
such
a
wide
expanse
in
a
single
movement
so
but
we've
got
a
whole
list
of
different
options
that
could
be
considered
based
upon
the
level
of
crossing.
E
I
was
curious
because
you
mentioned
some
of
our
roads
that
are
a
little
bit
wider
than
standard,
and
it's
just
again
it's
top
of
mind
because
I
was
just
in
madison.
They
have
some
sections
of
roadways
that
have
boulevards
in
the
middle.
Do
we
have
roads?
That
would
be
pretty
amenable
to
something
like
that
to
narrow
it
down,
because
then
that
would
add
some
beautification,
and
I
mean
you
could
even
do
trees
with
blossoms
on
it.
J
So
what
we
really
looked
at,
I
think
the
intention
of
in
our
standards,
development
with
regard
to
the
wide
right
way,
was
actually
consolidating
the
right-of-way
width
because
for
for
several
of
the
streets,
there's
80
plus
feet
of
right
away
and
the
current,
if
you
were
building
a
new,
say,
collector
street,
the
the
recommendation
is
66
foot,
so
there's
that
excess.
So
we
didn't
look
at
specifically,
you
know
widening
the
infrastructure
out
within
the
right-of-way.
J
What
we
were
actually
tasked
to
look
at
was
how
you
could
go
about
getting
rid
of,
or
vacating
small
portions
to
narrow
up
the
right-of-way
for
maintenance
purposes.
Basically
so,
but
you
certainly
that's
something
you
certainly
could
look
at
in
those
wide
right-of-way
streets.
If
you
wanted
traffic
calming
or
something
like
that,
but
for
capacity
needs,
we
didn't
look
at
that.
D
D
J
J
I
need
to
follow
up
with
steve
again
on
that
to
see,
but
what
we've
actually
found
is
the
participation
in
ninja.
Sheer
numbers
has
actually
been
higher
than
we
would
typically
see,
but
I
agree-
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
studies
that
are
going
forward
here
are
going
to
do
a
combination
of
both
because,
as
you
mentioned,
you
know
folks
like
to
come.
Some
folks
like
to
come
and
sit
down
and
talk
with
the
study
team
and
we're
used
to
doing
that.
It's
been
kind
of
different
for
us
to
go.
J
F
You
mayor,
you
said
your
your
study
did
look
at
safety
issues
that
include
speed
limits
in
various
areas.
J
So
we
we
did
look
at
all
of
the
reasons
for
the
crashes
and
if,
if
speeding
or
you
know,
there's
a
myriad
of
of
issues
that
have
been
identified,
you
know
as
causal
factors
of
crashes,
we
would
identify.
If
speeding
was
a
concern
and
tom
went
through
all
of
the
crash
data.
I
don't
recall
any
speeding
items
being
brought
up,
but
I
I've.
F
Got
a
specific-
and
I
brought
this
up
a
couple
different
times
with
the
d.o.t,
along
with
former
police
chief
mcpeak,
a
section
of
town
that
has
concerned
me
for
a
long
time.
I've
had
people
tell
me
that
they
forbid
their
children
to
to
drive
that
area,
and
I
realized
the
the
purpose
of
of
your
speeding.
F
F
I
can't
say
that
on
the
west
side
of
town
you're,
coming
in
at
65
miles
an
hour
and
all
of
a
sudden
you're
hitting
45
and
that
45
you
know,
people
aren't
gonna,
aren't
going
to
slow
down
to
45
immediately.
So
as
a
result,
you've
got
people
cruising
by
the
events
that
I've
had
event
center
staff
telling
me
that
people
are
cruising
by
there
on
the
west
end
of
town
still
going
that
55
to
60.
F
If
not
65,
yet,
and
specifically
an
area
that
that
is
of
a
concern
to
me
and
chief
mcpeak
is
waiting
in
this
as
well-
is
21st
street
out
there.
If
you
were
trying
to
get
either
onto
212
or
you
know,
on
to
21st
street,
especially
at
various
times
of
the
day,
there's
still
there's
that
traffic
that's
either
going
out
or
coming
in,
especially
coming
into
town.
Yet
that's
a
hazard
out
there
now
I'd
like
to
say
I
brought
up
a
couple
different
times
since
I'm
on
the
council,
the
dot
says:
nope.
F
The
signage
and
speed
limit
is
right
out
there,
but
that
is
still
a
concern
of
mine.
So
I
want
to
raise
that
again
and
if
there's
anything
that
you
know
you
folks
can
take
a
look
at
there
as
far
as
addressing
that,
I
just
think
it
that
45
needs
to
be
moved
out
further
or
staggered
from
65
to
55
to
45
or
something
rather
than
the
45,
where
it
is
going
from
the
65..
E
Know
we
identified
the
locations
without
sidewalk.
I
was
wondering,
as
we
were
doing
the
street
analysis.
Maybe
I
missed.
I
didn't
think
I
did,
but
ward
c
sees
some
of
this
to
the
west
of
the
high
school
there's
some
other
spots
too,
that
don't
have
it
but
curb
and
gutter
within
the
community.
E
I
know
there's
sections
where
we're
just
flat
out
missing
it
or
it'll
jump
one
house
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
it
reappears
was
that
analyzed
within
this
as
well.
J
Some
recommendations
on
how
to
set
those
up,
so
they
would
function
well.
Some
of
the
issues
that
we
usually
see
if
the
front
setbacks
aren't
large
enough
for
the
homes
they
creep
up
to
the
street
and
then
the
the
drainage
ditch
that's
supposed
to
be.
There
disappears
people
want
to
pipe
it,
and
then
it
makes
a
mess
of
your
roadway.
So
we
identified
some
standards
for
those
type,
rural
residential
type
properties,
our
new
developments,
but
no,
we
didn't
go
in
and
do
a
comprehensive
analysis
on
current
areas
that
are
missing,
curb
and
gutter.
G
That
point
councilman
hoyer.
I
would
add
that
on
a
per
project
basis,
that's
something
definitely
the
staff
will
will
keep
paying
attention
to.
What
we
like
to
do
is
on
again
on
a
per
project
basis.
We
look
at
the
continuity
of
curb
and
gutter,
whether
it's
the
old
square
curb
or
the
new
style
curb
that
we
conventionally
use
now
today
and
we're
appropriate.
We,
we
don't
have
any
issue
incorporating
a
curb
replacement
into
the
projects,
of
course,
funding
being
available
for
an
addition
like
that
to
a
project.
E
Okay,
I'm
just
wondering
heath
and
thank
you
for
that.
Do
we
have
anything
in
place
for
the
older
neighborhoods
that
just
don't
have
them,
or
is
that
treated
kind
of
like
sidewalk
gets
treated
or
do
we
just
wait
till
sale
of
home
and
then
try
to
address
it?.
G
You
know
for
the
older
neighborhoods
again
if
we
come
through
with
the
pavement
maintenance
or
rehab
project.
We
would
definitely
look
at
it
at
that
time
if
we
wanted
to
go
in
more
on
a
more
proactive
basis
and
and
do
look
at
maybe
doing
a
curb
assessment,
I
mean
that's
always
an
option
for
the
for
the
council
as
well.
If
the,
if
the
staff
or
for
that
matter,
the
residents
wanted
to
bring
a
petition
forward
for
an
assessment
project
like
that,
we
can
definitely
be
the
facilitators,
help
facilitate
those
kind
of
needs.
B
J
B
J
Yes,
yep
the
you
can
type
in
comments
as
you
go
or
wait
till
the
end
and
there's
a
comment
box
there.
Where
we'll
take
any
and
all
comments-
and
you
know
if
you
want
to
email
us,
we're
happy
to
do
that
or
or
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
too
we've
had
some.
As
I
mentioned,
some
folks
call
us
as
well
so.
J
B
Right
item
f:
is
authorization
to
allocate
funding
for
the
watertown
foundation,
plaza
project
project
number
2030,
supplementing
the
2021
budget
in
the
amount
of
one
million,
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
total
project
amount
of
three
million
five
thousand
dollars,
and
I
I
think
we
should
wait
on
a
motion
we're
going
to
be
discussing
some
options
that
you
might
want
to
include
in
a
motion
so-
and
we
are
discussing
this
at
the
full
council
meeting
as
well
as
an
agenda
item-
and
I
do
expect
some
members
of
the
downtown
area
to
come
and
have
something
to
say
about
it.
B
G
Absolutely
thank
you
mayor,
of
course,
public
works
and
the
engineering
division
have
just
played
a
small
role
in
this.
Overall
have
been
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
of
community
members,
a
lot
of
developers
and
teams
of
that
sort
that
have
come
together
with
the
design
committee
that
have
gotten
us
to
the
point
where
now
today,
justin
peterson
is
the
project
manager
for
the
city
engineering
office
he's
been
working
closely
with
john
jacobson
who's
with
confluence.
G
If
you
recall,
we
entered
into
a
design
contract
with
confluence
back
in,
I
believe,
was
august
of
2020
to
go
ahead
and
perform
the
design
and
bidding
services
for
a
downtown
park
that
downtown
park
has
since
modified
evol.
Its
name
has
evolved
now
to
foundation
plaza
and
again
part
of
the
reason
being.
The
watertown
community
foundation
has
played
a
crucial
role
in
some
of
the
funding
for
this
project
to
be
a
success.
G
They've
donated,
I
believe,
up
to
500
000.
I
think
that
500
000,
my
understanding,
is
that
that
will
come
in
100
grand
a
year
over
the
next
five
years,
and
so
I
wanted
to
provide
that
as
part
of
the
background
here,
we
also
have
available
for
us
as
part
of
the
funding.
That's
in
line
for
this
project
is
the
urban
renewal
fund
monies
that
were
collected
through.
G
I
forget
whether
it's
through
2019
or
2020,
or
a
combination
of
both,
but
the
the
total
there
that
we're
sitting
on
is
roughly
about
35
000
in
funds.
From
the
urban
renewal
fund
monies
that
were
collected
with
those
two
revenue
sources.
We
then
obviously
have
the
city's
cip
and
that's
where
the
brunt
of
the
load
is
being
carried
for
this
project.
G
Some
council
members
are
involved
with
this
design
committee
as
well,
and,
of
course,
some
staff
members,
along
with
the
consultant,
so
there's
been
a
few
steps
along
the
way
where
we've
looked
at
design
options.
The
committee
has
kind
of
arm
wrestled
with
the
facts
and
the
natures
of
these
kind
of
parks
and
what
we
think
will
work
best
and
is
needed
for
the
city
of
watertown
for
this
park
to
be
a
success
and
for
it
to
be
very
well
utilized
and
embraced
by
the
community
on
a
regular
basis.
G
Year-Round
and
that's
what's
brought
us
to
today
is
a
design
that
the
design
committee
is
is
recommending
to
the
council.
That
includes
some
turf
installation
instead
of
natural
grass
and
also
an
ice
feature
for
the
winter
months,
so
that
we
have
some
winter
usage
of
the
park.
G
G
So
there
are
some
options.
John
jacobson
is
online
with
us
today,
along
with
justin
peterson
and
again,
like
the
mayor
indicated.
What
we
were
primarily
want
to
focus
on
right
now
is
the
funding
options,
and
if
the
council
were
to
entertain
adding
another
million
dollars
this
project,
where
that
funding
might
come
from
and
engineering
staff
and
talking
internally,
with
with
other
staff
with
the
finance
officer,
we
have
ideas.
We
have
a
couple
options,
but
really
that's
what
we
wanted.
This
discussion
to
be
is
try
to
continue
to
bounce
around
some
further
ideas.
G
Another
option
is,
is
that
this
money
simply
can't
be
budgeted
in
2021,
because
there's
really
nothing
in
the
cip
that
we
can
pull
a
million
dollars
from
all
the
projects
we
have
going
now
have
pretty
well
been
bid,
there's
a
few
smaller
ones
that
remain
to
be
bid,
but
like
10th
avenue,
third
avenue,
mill
and
overlay
things
of
that
nature,
we
simply
don't
have
an
extra
million
dollars
in
the
2021
cip
and
talking
with
again
chris
and
the
finance
officer
and
I'll,
let
her
speak
to
that,
but
whether
there's
any
reserves
to
pull
from
or
contingencies
it
sounds
like.
G
That
gives
the
council
some
flexibility
to
not
have
to
find
it
out
of
this
year's
cip
and
then,
of
course,
the
third
option
is
maybe
hybrid
of
that
we
meet
in
the
middle
and
say:
okay,
the
city
will
fund
another
half
million
dollars
if
we
can
get
another
half
million
in
donations
from
the
the
businesses
or
user
groups
throughout
the
community
that
want
to
see
this
park
built
in
a
way
that
the
committee
feels
is
appropriate.
G
So
we
thought
we'd
just
throw
out
those
three
options
for
discussion
purposes
and
I'll.
Let
the
mayor
take
it
from
there
with
how
the
council
would
like
to
proceed
with
the
discussions.
B
G
G
I
Thank
you,
heath.
I
think
mayor
to
answer
your
question.
You
know
right
now,
based
on
our
work
with
the
committee
up
to
this
point,
for
the
elements
that
we've
reviewed
and
kind
of
the
primary
concept
that
everybody
has
agreed
to.
I
We
have
that
current
estimate
of
2.5
million
that
does
include
all
the
total
fees
for
design
construction
contract
administration,
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
they're,
obviously,
between
the
bid
and
those
construction
contract
costs.
Some
of
those
dollars
could
fluctuate
a
little
bit
still
to
this
point
because
you
know
obviously
they're
not
written
in
stone.
I
Yet
the
main
thing
that
we
would
have
to
do
to
get
the
project
down
to
two
million
dollars
would
be
to
work
with
the
committee
to
talk
about
what
items
we
are
potentially
going
to
take
out
of
the
design,
whether
that's
you
know
reducing
the
the
size
of
the
water
future
play
area
the
size
of
the
overall
play
area.
I
Maybe
there's
some
other
improvements
that
we
design
as
an
ad
alternate,
so
that
we
have
a
you
know
a
base
project
anticipated
of
being
two
million
dollars.
So
I
think
our
our
goal
at
this
point
was
to
work
with
the
committee
in
the
city
and
the
council
to
verify
what
that
exact
budget
is
going
to
be
and
then
kind
of
detail
the
final
design
from
there,
because
at
this
point
we're
only
in
what
you
call
the
design
development
stage
and
that's
where
we
reaffirm
the
program
and
also
the
potential
cost.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
did
ask
the
council
to.
Let
me
know
if
how
they
see
the
gift
of
500
000,
that
the
foundation
is
offering
to
us.
B
Do
they
see
that
as
lowering
the
amount
coming
out
of
the
city
budget
to
1.5,
or
do
they
see
it
as
raising
the
budget
up
to
2.5
and
it
was
split
of
half
and
half
so
we
need
to
get
beyond
that.
So
we
can
tell
the
designers
what
to
design
and
if
we're
going
to
go
with
the
2.5,
that
money
doesn't
come
all
at
once.
B
So
we
do
have
to
budget
extra
money
out
of
city
funds
and
the
half
million
will
come
back
annually
in
increments,
but
I
just
I'm
curious
of
where
what
people
are
thinking
of.
How
can
we
do
this
council
members,
councilman
vilhar.
F
I
guess
I
would
like
to
hear
I
mean
we've
got
at
least
two
of
you
from
that
are
on
that
committee.
I
guess
I'd
like
to
hear
what
the
committee
itself
is
saying,
because
I
think
I
got
some
feedback
someplace
online,
that
the
committee
itself
was
rather
split
in
their
thinking
on
this
or
not
necessarily
unanimous-
maybe
I'm
misspeaking
there,
but
I
I
guess
I'd
like
to
hear
from
what
the
committee
members
themselves
have
to
say
sure.
E
So
it's
been
developing
as
it
goes.
The
key
thing
that
was
said
from
the
start
is
whatever
we
do:
let's
do
it
right,
don't
backpedal
on
it.
So,
as
we
were
going
here,
we've
just
been
kind
of
tossing
around
the
routes
to
go.
If
we
could
do
the
ice,
let's
do
it
right
and
at
one
point
it
was
just
kind
of
out
of
the
question
because
it
was
so
expensive
that
changed
when
we
found
the
alternative,
that's
being
proposed
here.
E
That's
why
you'll
see
in
the
packet
that
they're
strongly
advocating
that
we
go
that
route,
but
it's
just
been.
How
do
we
finance
it?
What's
the
price
going
to
be-
and
we
didn't
get
a
price
tag
here
until
a
little
bit
later
in
the
game?
To
be
honest
with
you,
it's
that
same
issue
everybody's
been
hitting
where
costs
just
keep
changing
on
us,
but
I
don't
know
that
it
was
so
much
split.
E
I
think
it
was
just
you
know
if
this
was
something
that
needed
to
be
pushed
out,
since
the
ice
is
potentially
incremental,
that
it
could,
because
it
rolls
out
in
the
winter
that
you
could
do
that
at
a
later
date.
If
you
saw
a
fit
like
that,
could
be
an
option
as
something
you
added
on
or
we
could
just
do
it
right
from
the
get
go
and
get
a
four
season
park.
E
That's
kind
of
the
challenge
right
now,
because
south
dakota
everything
we
could
say
it's
a
three
season
park.
It's
really
like
a
one
and
a
half
season
park
because
it
gets
a
little
cold
a
little
fast
here.
E
E
I
I
would
say
yeah
that's
been,
the
biggest
discussion
was
if
yes,
no,
how
that
that's
been
a
long
time
discussion
in
this
and
we
didn't
want
to
go
with
some
super
cheap
option.
We
decided
pretty
firmly
like
if
it's
not
going
to
be
of
quality,
then
don't
do
that
and
then
give
the
public
something.
That's
really
subpar.
If
we're
going
to
do
it
make
sure
it
is
something
that
has
enough
substance
and
quality
to
be
worthwhile.
E
E
It
uses
essentially
roll
out
sheets
that
have
glycol
that
gets
pumped
underneath
it
if
you're
familiar
with
that,
it's
a
chilling
agent
that
allows
things
to
stay
frozen
so
that
we
don't
get
the
same
issues
that
we
have
with
the
outdoor
rink,
that's
over
by
latc,
where
it
gets
we
get
a
warm
winter
day,
and
then
it
slushes
up
on
people
and
then
it's
just
kind
of
a
mess.
So
they
found
an
alternative
that
came
after
a
couple
weeks
of
looking
actually
and
that's
what
this
is
proposing.
E
So
they
give
you
a
few
options.
The
committee
was
firmly
sitting
that
it's
worthwhile
to
do
that
ice
just
so,
it
turns
into
that
four
season
park
that
we
can
use
year
round.
It'd
be
the
only
one
like
it
in
watertown.
B
A
We've
talked
a
lot
about
the
benefits
of
that
park
and
you
know
that's
not
something
we
have
in
this
particular
area.
It's
you
know
available
to
people,
it's
not
a
cost
item
for
our
citizens.
A
To
use
I
mean,
obviously,
we
have
to
pay
for
it,
but
to
use-
and
so
I
think
a
lot
of
it
was
okay.
Now
we
figured
out
what
we
really
want,
and
now
we
found
an
alternative
to
the
ice.
That
is
not
you
know
the
high
end,
but
this
is
really
really
a
good
option,
and
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
us
who
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
it
all
done.
A
I
did
propose
at
one
time
also
that
maybe
we
could
phase
something
in
you
know
with
the
donation
or
extending
the
budget
from
21
to
22.,
and
those
are
options
that
still
exist.
But
I
guess
what
I'm
going
to
say
is
that,
from
my
opinion,
we
have
a
lot
of
private
individuals,
private
companies
that
have
put
a
ton
of
money
into
downtown
and
they're
really
building
up
the
infrastructure
for
us
down
there,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
people
living
down
there.
A
We're
going
to
have
a
lot
more
foot
traffic
people
whatever,
and
so
this
to
me
is
a
way
the
city
can
say
we're
behind
all
of
the
people
who
are
making
these
big
investments,
the
business
owners,
the
builders
who
are
making
these
large
investments
with
housing
and
things
like
that.
So
our
role
as
a
city
to
do
it
right
is
that
it's
not
small,
it's
small
on
the
big
scale,
but
I
mean
let's
make
this
investment
to
show
that
we're
behind
all
of
the
people.
A
Who've
made
all
these
private
investments
downtown
and
you
know
they're
taking
bigger
risks,
they're
putting
in
millions
and
millions-
and
I
guess
I'm
just
getting
on
my
soapbox
here
for
a
minute
and
saying
that
this
is
something
the
city
can
show
that
we
can
do.
That
will
be
of
a
benefit
to
a
very,
very
large
number
of
people
that
isn't
costing
us
seven
million
eight
million
ten
million
we're
not
by
building
a
new
building
things
like
that.
A
But
yet
it's
supporting
all
the
construction
and
all
of
the
development
that's
going
downtown
and
we're
just
seeing
more
and
more
happening
every
day.
You
know:
we've
got
contractors
that
are
buying
buildings.
We've
got
you
know
things
like
that.
So
as
we're
cons,
the
reason
I
brought
this
up
is
as
we're
considering
this
I'd
like
you
to
keep
that
in
mind.
A
B
Right
we're
running
out
of
time.
I
know
others
have
input
they
want
to
give,
and
this
is
on
the
agenda
for
the
council
meeting.
So
if
you
have
something
real
short
to
say
about
the
money
part
of
it
not
about
the
benefit
of
the
park,
we're
going
to
get
into
that,
but
just
about
an
idea
about
how
we
would
fund
it.
That's
kind
of
what
I
want
to
throw
out
there.
B
We
do
have
some
money
coming
from
the
federal
government
that
has
restrictions,
and
one
of
the
of
appropriate
uses
is
things
that
lead
to
tourism,
which
you
could
see
that
here,
but
councilman
albertson.
I
know
you
wanted
to
say
something.
D
B
B
D
You
know
I
mean
there
were
a
lot
of
things
going
on
at
one
time
and
I
I
for
one
think
that
this
park
has
some
tremendous
value
for
watertown
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
talk
to
kristin
and
say:
okay,
the
ice
rinks
reed
and
his
group
did
a
great
job
of
getting
that
in
this
is
not
short
by
the
way.
This
is
reid
has
done
a
great
job.
That
group
and
bruce
these
guys
did
a
great
job
getting
that
ice.
Those
ice
sheets
in.
D
I
think
that
there's
money
that
we
can
find
to
do
this
thing
right
and
if
we
don't
do
it
right
now,
we're
not
going
to
do
it
right.
So
I
I'll
talk
more
on
it
later
if
it's
need
to
be,
but
I
think
that
it's
really
changed
a
lot
in
the
last
eight
months
since
when
we
were
talking
about
we're
going
to
take
this
money
away
from
the
ice
rinks
we're
going
to
take
it
away
from
so
anyway
I'll
talk
later.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
thank
you
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
cut
the
conversation
off
now
and
move
through
the
agenda.
Is
there
any
old
business,
real,
quick,
any
new
business?
We
do
not
have
a
reason
to
go
into
executive
session,
so
there
being
no
further
business
right.
Now,
I'm
going
to
call
this
meeting
adjourned
and
we'll
take
a
five-minute
break
and
come
back
for
the
council
meeting.