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A
B
A
A
See
no
one
here
for
that.
We'll
move
on
to
approval
of
tonight's
agenda.
Do
we
have
a
motion
made
by
councilman
shetty?
Excuse
me
seconded
by
councilman
danforth,
all
those
in
favor
of
approving
the
agenda.
Please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay
motion
carries
we'll
move
on
to
the
regular
agenda,
which
is
a
discussion
on
the
tax
edition
zoning.
A
A
Then
we
are
going
to
talk
about
the
zoning
issues
of
the
edition,
then
the
infrastructure
of
the
edition,
and
then
we
will
have
a
discussion
on
the
developer
options
of
the
edition.
That's
just
a
general
framework.
I
do
that
partially
for
the
council,
so
that,
if
you
have
questions
as
a
council,
we
will
limit
them
to.
Let's
say
if
we
are
discussing
the
history
of
these
of
the
edition,
keep
your
questions
on
the
on
the
history
and
not
start
moving
on
to
you
know
what
about
roads
or
the
marina
or
anything
like
that
fair
enough.
A
Yeah
and-
and
I
will
say
at
the
council
meeting-
this
is
just
a
first
reading.
I
have
talked
to
everyone
out
there,
but
I
want
it
also
on
public
record
that
this
is
a
work
session,
which
means
that
the
work
is
being
done
by
the
council
with
the
staff
to
get
our
questions
answered
and
so
that
we
gather
more
information,
and
this
is
done
on
special
projects
that
we
feel
deemed
where
we
deem
it
worthy.
Where
we
really
feel
like.
We
need
to
get
a
very
thorough
understanding
of
it.
A
work
session
happens
very
rarely.
A
It
is
only
on
projects
of
significance
so
right
there.
I
want
everyone
to
who
is
concerned
about
this
in
the
room
and
elsewhere
to
know
that
we
do
not
do
this
lightly.
Nor
often
so
we
do
feel
that
this
is
an
important
thing
to
get
right.
So
the
work
session
is
for
the
for
the
council
to
get
our
answers
and
more
information
from
our
staff
and
to
understand
how
we
got
where
we
are
so
with
that
we
will
go
to
our
public
works
director,
heath
von.
A
C
Yes,
absolutely
thank
you
mayor,
so
I'll
be
glad
to
walk
through
some
some
background
with
the
council
and
and
those
in
the
room
tonight.
I've
shared
my
screen
to
teams
looks
like
it
is
on
the
board
and
where
I
thought
I'd
start
out
with
is
the
the
preliminary
planning
for
this
area
that
occurred
back
as
you
can
see
on
this
diagram
here
back
in
2009.
C
This
was
what
was
a
revised
master
plan
at
the
time
to
include
all
the
cacs
subdivision
land-
hopefully
I'm
zoomed
in
enough
just
to
get
some
context
of
what
we're
looking
at
here,
of
course,
on
the
east
side
of
this.
Drawing
of
this
preliminary
plan
is
33rd
street
and
on
the
west
side
is
42nd
street.
They
both
feed
up
to
highway
212
and
are
classified
as
major
collectors.
C
C
They
don't
necessarily
meet
the
volume
of
traffic
today
to
be
a
major
collector,
but
by
location
they
are
by
default.
The
major
collectors,
so
we
can
preserve
those
that
network
that
grid
network
of
major
collectors
throughout
our
street
system
in
the
community.
So
that's
33rd
on
the
east
42nd
on
the
west.
C
That's
under
consideration
here
later
tonight,
and
at
the
next
council
meeting
the
original
plan,
preliminary
plan
for
this
entire
area,
as
you
can
see,
included
a
single-family
residential,
a
pretty
good
number
of
residential
lots
existed
on
this
preliminary
plan.
All
the
way
out
into
this
fourth
edition
area
I'll,
also
pull
up
the
proposed
zoning
at
that
time.
C
C
This
was
a
proposed
zoning
back
in
2006
was
the
date
on
this
see
this
subdivision's
obviously
been
in
contemplation
for
quite
a
while
now.
The
first
edition
has
progressed
to
a
point
now,
where
I
guess
I
didn't
check
to
see
what
percent
is
built
out,
but
all
the
streets
are
in
all
the
public
infrastructure
is
in,
17th
avenue
is
built,
36th
street
is
built,
and
what
was
19th
avenue
is
now
called
north
pelican
lane,
I
believe,
is
also
constructed.
C
and
after
the
first
edition
was
built
out
here
recently,
as
within
the
last
12
to
16
months,
the
developer
came
forward
with
a
new
proposal.
These
preliminary
plans
are
only
good
for
so
long
and
once
they
time
out,
the
developer
has
to
come
forth
with
a
new
development
to
go
through
the
development
process
from
the
start
over
again,
and
that's
exactly
what
mr
horning
did
for
the
fourth
edition,
he
brought
forth
a.
C
Find
the
document
here
a
concept
plan,
preliminary
plan,
pud,
zoning
and
plating
for
what
this
now
shows.
This
is
the
currently
approved
configuration
for
cac's
fourth
edition,
so
you
can
see
the
difference
from
what
was
originally
master
planned
for
all
these
smaller
single
family,
multi-family
residential
lots
to
what's
approved.
Now
today
they
went
with
pud
zoning
so
that
they
could
accomplish
some
rural
residential
lots
throughout
this
fourth
edition,
along
with
some
single
family
on
the
east
side
of
the
development
up
against
again
that
first
addition
to
the
east.
C
So
this
this
zoning
concept
plan
prelim
plan,
zoning
of
pud
with
roll
single
family,
residential
and
the
plating
again
have
all
occurred
here
in
the
last
12
to
12
to
16
months,
or
so.
I
believe
the
final
approval
was
in
march
with
the
zoning
and
plating
for
that
pud
zoning
district
and
then
now
before
the
council
this
evening
is
a
modification
to
that
pud
plan.
C
Reason,
but
in
essential,
essentially
in
a
nutshell,
what
they're
proposing
is
to
combine
it's
five
or
six
of
these
lots.
I
think
it's
six
of
these
lots
down
here
in
the
southeast
corner
of
fourth
edition
into
what
would
be
a
mixed
use:
pud
for
high
density,
residential
and
some
commercial
with
uses
of
a
restaurant,
a
marina
those
are
primarily
the
mixed
uses
that
go
along
with
the
high
density
residential
and
that
pud
it
ends
up
being
a
zoning.
C
C
What
this
turned
into
was
a
a
rezone
application,
so
the
project
has
now
gone
through
the
process,
like
any
other
rezone
application
throughout
our
community.
Would
it
goes
to
the
planning
commission
for
their
recommendation
for
approval
to
the
city
council,
and
this
one
did
pass
on
a
by
a
split
vote
of
four
to
three
recommending
approval
to
the
city
council
for
the
newly
proposed
mixed-use
pud
zoning.
A
B
You
mayor
heath,
can
you
go
back
of
the
slides,
certainly
what
I'm
looking
at
the
the
first
second
and
third,
what
is
the
they're?
They
were
color-coded.
What
is
the
the
white
or
the
blank
area
keep
keep
going
back
yeah?
What?
What
is?
What
are
we
looking
at
there.
C
So
these
are
open
spaces
due
to
the
wetlands
that
exist.
I
believe
in
in
the
first
edition.
This
all
is
pretty
well
built
out
exactly
as
you
see
here
because
of
the
wetlands
and
then
in
the
the
fourth
edition.
Some
of
this,
of
course,
has
been
modified
from
what
it
was
originally
proposed
to
be
with
all
the
rural
single-family
residential
lots,
making
up
most
of
those
wetland
areas,
which
is
something
that
the
developer
has
to
do
check
off
through
the
appropriate
channels.
Thanks
heath.
C
The
lot
number
here
today,
I
believe,
was
52
as
seen
on
52
residential
lots
that
are
approved
as
the
platt
sits.
Today
I
couldn't
tell
you,
I
didn't
do
a
count
on
here,
but
well.
Over
52
lots
existed
on
the
original
preliminary
plan.
C
Again
those
were
proposed
to
be
r1,
r2
and
r3
throughout
the
fourth
edition,
this
block
alone,
just
looking
at
the
numbering
at
57
lots
just
in
the
central
part
of
the
plat
here
or
that
the
proposed
plan.
E
Yes,
he
as
far
as
the
time
for
when
this
development
started,
would
you
be
able
to
give
us
a
time
frame
when
the
from
what
year
did
this
roughly
start
the
development
process?
On
the
first
edition
we're
talking
about.
C
So,
yes,
and
I'll
have
to
rely
on
some
of
these
documents
to
help
me
with
that.
So
I
apologize
as
I
fumble
through
some
of
this,
but
it
looks
like
the
the
plot
of
first
edition
would
have
occurred
in
2008.
C
So
that's
when
all
the
lots
were
established
in
the
first
edition
in
order
to
begin
selling
and
developing
those
lots
that,
of
course,
that
timeline
would
have
corresponded
when
the
developer
would
have
initiated
the
infrastructure,
improvements
to
start
building
out,
17th
avenue,
19th
avenue
and
36th
street.
C
I
believe,
for
whatever
reason.
At
that
time,
the
the
development
agreement
had
a
rather
extended
duration
on
it.
I
think
it
was
10
years
10
years
yeah,
my
senior
planner,
my
city
attorney,
are
telling
me
my
year
is
10
years
was
accurate,
so
that
10-year
timeline,
then
just
came
up
here
in
2018
2019,
where
we
go
out
and
do
inspections
of
those
public
improvements.
We've
worked
with
the
developer
and
his
contractor
on
completing
the
assurances
of
those
public
improvements
through
that
first
edition.
C
F
F
Second
question
is
that
you
had
mentioned
as
you've
introduced
this
you
you
mentioned.
I
think
it
was
33rd
and
42nd,
I
believe,
as
major
collectors,
if
you
could
just
take
just
two
minutes
and
and
define
for
the
public
and
and
us
on
this
side,
we
start
off
with
a
residential
order.
What's
the
next
step
up
from
a
residential
road?
What
are
those
incrementals,
because
I
know
we
got
collector
streets
and
arterial,
major
and
minor
arterials,
etc?
Could
you
just
quick
go
through
what
those
are
so
in
our
minds?
C
Yeah
absolutely
so
your
first
question
councilman
danforth,
the
why
we
received
these
kind
of
documents,
so
that
process
that
I
rambled
off
a
little
while
ago
that
starts
to
in
today's
process
starts
with
a
concept
plan.
That's
where
a
developer
brings
in.
You
know
their
barren
land,
saying
here's
what
we'd
like
to
do
with
it
and
the
staff
guide
them
through
the
requirements
of
what's
meant
to
be
and
required
to
be
in
a
concept
plan.
There
are
certain
things
they
have
to
show
on
that
concept
plan.
C
We
recently
modified
those
requirements
so
that
it
wasn't
as
big
of
a
lift
at
that
phase
early
on
in
a
subdivision
process.
So
the
developer
didn't
have
to
spend
quite
as
much
as
engine
in
their
engineering
and
those
costs.
C
You
know
without
having
the
project
move
forward
some,
so
once
they
get
through
the
concept
plan
phase,
they
then
go
to
a
preliminary
plan
phase
and
the
preliminary
plan
goes
a
little
bit
deeper
dive
in
some
of
the
details
of
the
infrastructure,
design
and
things
like
that
and
again,
that's
where
the
the
costs
start
to
accrue
all
the
more
for
the
developer,
based
on
their
engineering
fees.
C
The
reason
we
do
all
that
is
is
simply
there's
two
steering
documents
that
we
use
for
development
in
the
city
and
that's
the
zoning
ordinance
and
our
subdivision
regulations,
their
chapters
21
and
chapter
24
of
the
watertown
city
codes
and
those
are
the
two
general
primary
documents
now
there's
a
lot
of
other
subsidiary
documents
like
our
engineering
design
standards
and
things
like
that
to
come
into
play.
C
But,
generally
speaking,
those
are
the
two
steering
documents,
along
with
our
comprehensive
land
use
plan
and
at
those
phases
is
when
the
city
staff
and
then
subsequently,
the
boards
check
off
the
development
to
make
sure
everything's
in
compliance
with
and
in
conformance
with
the
regulations
and
then
also
meeting
the
the
intent
of
things
like
the
land
use
plan.
C
And
so
that's
what
why
these?
What
was
called
a
master
plan
at
the
time
back
in
2009
why
those
documents
are
submitted?
We
determine
what
infrastructure
needs
go
into
place
by
master
planning.
We
determine
how
a
proposed
development
plugs
into
the
existing
infrastructure.
C
What
kind
of
adverse
impacts
it
might
create?
All
those
things
are,
are
looked
at
and
considered
when
we
lay
things
out
through
the
master
planning
process.
C
Out
of
your
second
question
on
the
streets
and
their
classifications,
we
generally
have
a
handful
of
street
classifications,
one
starting
with
a
local
residential
street,
we're
all
familiar
with.
That's
that's
that
their
driveways
are
typically
plugged
into
and
we
back
out
of
each
morning
or
pull
into
at
the
end
of
each
work
day.
C
As
far
as
traffic
volumes
as
far
as
vehicles
per
day,
that
you
would
see
on
residential
street
are
generally
less
than
500
vehicles
per
day.
There
are
certain
design
criteria
those
residential
streets
are
built
to
again.
Our
engineering
design
standards
determine
what
those
are
we
currently
have
just
under
a
40
foot
back
of
curb
street
width
requirement
for
residential
street,
for
example,.
C
Then
you
get
up
into
our
collectors
and
arterials
and
there's
those
are
split.
Two
different
ways:
there's
a
minor
major
collector
and
there's
a
minor
major
arterial
and
both
33rd
and
42nd
are
classified
as
major
collectors
and
again
those
those
classifications
come
because
of
how
they're,
geographically
located
they
don't
meet.
The
traffic
count
today
for
being
a
major
collector
that
would
require
they
had
over
5000
vehicles
per
day
on
them,
and
they
they
don't
have
that
much
traffic
on
them.
C
So
that's
all
part
of
our
transportation
master
planning
that
we
do
that's
in
relation
to
the
development
process
and
how
we
look
at
our
road
networks,
and
then
you
get
up
into
our
arterials.
A
minor
arterial
typically
sees
10
000
vehicles
a
day
or
more,
and
then
a
major
arterial
is
up
to
15
000
or
more.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
as
we
review
and
I'm
kind
of
old
school
here.
I
call
it
master
plan,
but
as
you
reference
that
you
know,
our
concept
plans
preliminary
plans
once
they
are
in
house
and
we're
looking
at
those
there's,
typically
a
lot
of
discussion
that
takes
place
about
what
what
we
like
or
don't
like
from
a
planning
standpoint.
F
All
the
way
around
and
things
get
moved
a
lot
and
there's
usually
justification
for
what
that
is,
and
one
of
those
big
issues
for
us
is
always
what's
planned
to
go
in
there
from
a
zoning
and
what
could
go
in
there.
Then,
for
that
for
that
zoning
in
this
particular
case,
multi-family
housing
is
the
reference,
including
this,
I
don't
believe,
there's
any
multi-family
housing
in
in
any
of
the
early
documents,
but
had
there
been
there
probably
would
have
been
discussion
on
where
that's
best
fit
into
that
development.
Is
that
a
fair
statement.
C
F
F
B
Thank
you
mayor
also
to
you
heath,
because
I
I
I
was
involved
when
we
just
recently
or
within
the
last
couple
years
drafted.
You
know
the
the
concept
plan.
You
know
requirements
now
you
you
said
that,
because
it's
already
been
planted,
it
wasn't
required
to
go
back
with
the
for
a
revised
concept
plan,
but
I
think,
but
I
also
remember
that
within
the
concept
plan
requirements
when
there's
certain
major
revisions
that
take
place,
a
new
concept
plan
is
required
to
be
resubmitted
back
through
the
planning
commission.
Correct.
Yes,.
B
Not
required
to
be
done
here
because
it
had
been
planted.
Correct,
that's
correct,
I
guess
I'll,
it's
probably
a
hypothetical
question,
but
had
that
not
been
planted,
would
this
have
been
a
major
revision
to
the
original
concept
plan
that
would
have
required
a
riva?
You
know
approval
again
by
the
planning
commission.
A
I
guess
to
protect.
A
I
will
allow
the
question
what
I
want
to
do
is
I
want
to
protect
our
staff.
Our
staff
is
non-partisan
on
this
issue.
They
need
to
be
non-partisan
so
to
protect
the
to
protect
our
public
work
director's
integrity.
What
I
would
do
is
rephrase
the
question
to
say:
are
there
parameters
established
that
would
have
con
made
this
considered
to
be
a
major
revision,
not
under
not
so
take
out.
Your
personal
opinion
are
there
parameters
in
place
where
we
could
just.
B
That's
a
fair
question,
I
mean
I,
I
wasn't.
I
wasn't
being
critical
of
what
the
staff
had
done.
You
were
following
your
required
procedures
and
I'm
not
questioning
that
sure.
So
if
you
want
to
answer
it
in
the
context
the
mayor
put
it
or
like
I
said
it's
a
hypothetical
question,
I
I
guess
I
would
entertain
a
you
know
oppose
it
that
way.
C
Yeah,
certainly
no,
I
can
approach
the
question
in
that
manner.
The
the
concept
plan
approvals
and
the
preliminary
plan
approvals
both
have
stipulations
in
them
that
would
that
would
trigger
reapproval
to
go
back
through
those
those
processes.
C
C
Now.
The
preliminary
plan,
that's
more
at
the
administrative
level
at
the
staff
level,
where
we
review
that
and
go
through
the
technical
details
of
the
prelim
plan,
but
there
are
also
criteria
in
there
as
well.
That
would
trigger
a
new
prelim
plan,
but
because
the
whole
subdivision
process
had
been
completed,
I.e,
the
the
plot
has
been
approved
that
did
not
trigger
them
to
go
back
through
those
those
processes.
A
B
I
I
know
we're
talking
about
the
history
of.
I
guess
I'd
like
to
ask
a
question
regarding
the
future.
Is
there
up
is
what's
to
the
south
and
west
I
mean,
is
there
a
fifth
edition,
or
is
this
the
end
of
that
development
out
there.
C
This
would
be
the
completion
of
the
the
cax
subdivision
to
the
direct
southwest
has
already
developed
and
there's
a
separate
property
owners
to
the
west
and
to
the
north.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Any
further
council
questions
on
the
history,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
to
the
zoning
issues
and
in
regards
to
this.
It
is
our
public
works,
director's
expertise
and
he
will
handle
it,
but
he
will
discuss
such
things
as
transitional
zones,
buffer
areas
difference.
You
know
r1
and
commercial,
and
things
like
that.
C
Thank
you
and
again
I
apologize.
I'm
only
going
to
be
as
strong
as
my
technology
allows
me
to
be
here
on
this
discussion
so
and
our
gis
mapping
seems
to
be
running
very
slow,
I'd
hope
to
pull
that
up
and
just
to
show
the
current
zoning
around
that
area.
C
C
And
then
you
get
into
your
commercial
uses,
we
have
c
one
two
and
three,
I
think,
but
different
commercial
uses
that
are
allowed.
Some
of
those
zones
are
just
specific
to
certain
geographic
locations
within
the
community,
and
others
are
specific
to
those
commercial
uses
as
they
become
more
intrusive,
and
then
you
have
your
industrial
zoning.
That
of
course
allows
for
industrial
manufacturing
and
industrial
uses
of
that
nature
that
extend
out
and
are
all
the
more
intrusive
with
noise
and
dust
and
equipment
and
things
of
that
nature.
C
F
May
I
have
matt
or
heath.
Could
you
guys
read
the
paragraph
that
we
had
looked
at
earlier
to
try
to
understand
why
we
do
the
zoning
the
way
we
do
what
the
purpose
of
zoning
there
was
a.
I
think,
that's
a
very
informative
paragraph
matt.
I
think
you
would
pull
that
up.
If
I
remember
right,
if
that's
okay,
just
to
have
them
quick,
do
that
that.
C
So
the
the
zoning
ordinance
chapter
21
city
code,
right
up
in
front
of
it,
identifies
the
purpose
of
that
chapter
of
code
and
in
that
section
it
lists
nine
different
purposes
on
why
we
go
through
a
zoning
process.
C
Did
you
want
me
to
pull
this
up
on
the
screen?
Councilman
or
just
read
them
off?
C
C
B
Thank
you,
mayor
heath.
I
I
know
we
adopt
a
comprehensive
land
use
plan
here
within
the
last
couple
of
years.
Does
this
area
support
or
is
a
comprehensive
land
use
plan
it
support
this
type
of
or
allow
this
type
of
development
that's
being
proposed.
C
The
answer
to
that
question
is
multifaceted
if
I
may
step
through
that,
the
short
answer
for
for
single
family
residential-
yes,
that's
what
the
the
comprehensive
land
use
plan
shows
for
this
area
is
residential
use.
C
We
have
identified
this
area
to
be
one
of
the
areas
that
are,
it
essentially
surrounds
both
lakes,
where,
as
identified
potential
areas
for
the
commercial
lake
district,
so
while
the
companies
of
land
use
plan
shows
us
as
residential
use,
we
also
have
an
adopted
zoning
district
that
allows
for
commercial
lake
use
and
identifies
this
as
one
of
those
possible
areas.
D
C
Yes,
generally
speaking
with
any
re-zone
upon
approval
of
that
rezone,
we
have
what
are
called
permitted
uses
and
those
permitted
uses
can
occur
on
that
zoned
land
at
the
owner's
discretion
they
can,
they
can
put
in
there
what
they
wish
as
long
as
it's
under
the
permitted
uses
and
meets
all
of
our
building
code
requirements
and
and
building
permitting
processes.
C
A
D
A
Going
back
to
our
public
works
director,
heath,
von
nai
and
infrastructure
can
be
basically
anything
that
you
want
to
talk
about,
but
perhaps
the
appropriate
conversation
would
center
somewhat
upon
the
road.
The
road
width,
the
construction
of
the
road
and
any
other
infrastructure
concerns
or
issues
out
there.
A
And
just
ask
for
some
public
leniency,
while
we
get
some
of
this
figured
out
we're
just
having
a
little
bit
of
computer
issues
with
the
man
of
the
hour
manny.
C
And
then,
if
you
could
go
back
to
that
map
for
me,
please
thank
you
so
yeah.
As
far
as
the
the
infrastructure
is
concerned,
with
each
subdivision
or
development
within
the
community,
there
are
public
infrastructure
requirements
that
they
have
to
meet.
C
Of
course,
they
need
adequate
water
service
to
their
proposed
development,
adequate
sewer
services,
the
street
network
has
to
meet
our
engineering
design
standards,
and
so
anyway,
all
that
was
checked
off
and
reviewed
through
the
first
phase
of
development,
where
the
streets
that
are
built
out
there
today
are
beat
are
built
to
the
residential
street
section
requirements
which
again
I
mentioned
earlier,
is
roughly
40
foot
wide
back
at
curb
street.
C
With
the
fourth
edition
I'll
note
that
for
42nd
street
we
did
collect
a
fee
from
the
developer
for
the
future
reconstruction
of
42nd,
because
there's
two
residential
lots
planted
along
there.
We
didn't
want
those
two
lots
to
get
stuck
with
an
assessed
valuation
against
their
properties
for
reconstructing
40.
Second,
but
the
reason
I
touch
on
that
is
because,
for
neither
33rd
or
42nd
is
it
in
the
city's
near
term
plan
to
reconstruct
either
one
of
those
with
this
level
of
residential
traffic?
C
That's
been
generated,
it's
not
substantial
to
necessarily
trigger
reconstructing
that
extensive
amount
of
roadway.
At
some
point
we
as
a
community-
and
you
know
the
city
engineering
office-
we
provide
recommendation
to
do
so.
We've
got
a
couple.
Developments
happen
recently.
You
have
the
dollar
general
store
here.
You
have
the
the
continued
development
of
the
cac
subdivision.
C
We've
tried
to
curb
some
of
the
construction
traffic
concerns
on
42nd
by
requiring
them
to
take
the
city
streets,
the
33rd
and
the
existing
city
streets.
The
the
traffic
generated
by
dollar
general,
for
example,
is
another
concern.
So
at
some
point
all
these
things
compile
and
what
would
be
beneficial
at
some
point
is
to
see
a
traffic
impact
study
with
recommendations
on
you
know
when
33rd
and
42nd
should
be
improved,
but
for
now
the
residential,
the
local
traffic
that
are
on
them.
C
They
might
not
be
the
best
roads
around,
but
they're
adequate
to
convey
that
amount
of
traffic.
There's
not
a
dire
need
to
go
out
there
tomorrow
and
reconstruct
them
to
a
wider
width.
Although
you
know
that
that
becomes
a
little
subjective
depending
on
how
it's
being
used
by
pedestrians
and
things
like
that.
C
C
It
is,
it's
got
a
what
called
blotter
seal
over
it.
It's
it's
not
a
formally
paved
road.
I
don't
believe
I
think
it's
just
a
bladder
seal
where
they've
taken
a
gravel
road
and
sprayed
oil
over
it.
That's
a
real
generic
summary.
A
C
C
A
C
Some
of
those
include
they
would
serve
moderate
volumes
of
traffic
from
local
roads
to
arterials,
I.e
the
the
residential
streets
here
all
being
fed
out
to
the
arterial
of
212..
C
C
C
Traffic
control
is
generally
provided.
You
know
by
typical
signage
on
street
parking
may
be
allowed,
may
not
be
allowed.
C
C
C
That's
where
you
go
north
on
highway,
81,
there's
an
apartment
being
built
there
now
today
that
would
be
a
multi-family
residential
with
access
onto
a
major
arterial
of
the
roadway,
but
because
it's
multifamily
you
wouldn't
allow
that
for
single
family.
Typically,
major
collectors
could
transition
into
minor
collectors,
as
approved
by
the
city
engineer,
and
then
the
miner
collectors
have
a
few
different
criteria.
Minor
collectors
are
generally
less
than
5
000
vehicles
today,
typically
25
miles
an
hour
or
more.
C
D
Thank
you
mayor,
we're
hearing
a
lot
about
the
the
access
or
the
outlets
in
this
area.
Are
these
roads
or
outlets
the
same
or
better
than
sony
point
that
was
just
approved.
D
Functional
classification,
and
also
what
which
includes
road
with,
I
guess.
C
So
from
a
functional
classification
standpoint:
yes,
the
roads
that
feed
stony
point
those
would
all
be
residential
with
exception.
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
the
map
in
that
area,
but
at
some
point,
south
lake
drive,
of
course,
is
a
probably
a
probably
a
minor
major
collector,
but
those
I
try
to
name
it
as
prairie
hills
drive
or
you
know,
that's
a
that's
a
residential
street.
C
Now
that's
what
17th
19th.
What
those
would
be
in
here
are
residential
and
then
they
plug
into
the
major
collectors
of
33rd
and
42nd.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
tupper,
I'll,
get
back
to
you.
I
apologize,
but
as
long
as
councilman
paulson
has
the
floor
I'll
allow
well,
I
will
allow
a
follow-up.
D
C
As
far
as
the
street
network
is
concerned,
yes
yeah
in
relation
to
how
how
they
both
connect
to
the
network.
Stony
point
has
one
road
tying
into
prairie
hills
drive
or
whatever
it
is,
that
is,
prairie
hills
drive
and
then
this
this
subdivision,
or
this
particular
pud-
would
have
17th
and
north
pelican
drive
both
leading
out
to
33rd.
G
This
is
maybe
more
of
an
assumption
than
it
is.
You
know
I
hate
to
see
the
the
fact
that
40
seconds
not
going
to
be
a
paved
road,
we're
going
to
end
up
with
another
half
half
road.
Again,
if
I
were
to
live
in
the
new
apartment
complex
and
to
expect
me
to
come
down,
42nd,
that's
going
to
be
a
gravel
road
or
a
sealed
road
or
come
down
33rd
and
then
cut
across.
G
I
guess
I
know
what
I
would
do.
I
think
it's
going
to
cause
a
lot
of
traffic
issues
along
33rd.
I
don't,
I
just
don't
see,
42nd
being
the
main
road
into
cac's,
fourth
being
unimproved,
basically
an
unimproved
road,
just
a
little
rebuttal
to
to
councilman
paulson's.
If
you
look
at
this
as
192
stony
points
42,
if
I
remember
right
so
a
lot
less,
no
okay.
A
Would
just
we're
not
here
to
debate
each
other,
so
thank
you
very
much
any
further
questions
on
the
infrastructure,
councilman
vilhauer.
B
I
get
thank
you
mayor.
I
guess
I've
got
a
probably
a
follow-up
or
a
similar
question
to
what
councilman
tupper
just
said.
So
I
guess
if
so,
we've
got
what
17th
18th
avenue.
I
think
I
heard
that
would
feed
back
over
to
33rd
street.
C
A
E
So
there's
33rd
and
what
was
the
number,
the
the
or
the
street
on
the
to
the
west
42nd
just
for
I'm
sure,
there's
others
that
are
wondering
or
there's
been
some
talk
about
the
potential
of
a
of
a
street
going
pretty
much
straight
north
from
this
proposed
development.
What's
the
number
of
I
mean
it's
not
what
is
that
potential
number
or
that
street
38th
38th
street?
And
that
is
that's.
That's
not
something!
That's
really
in
the
works
in
the
very
near
future.
As
far
as
you
can
tell
from
current
development
or.
C
It
so
this
this
development,
4th
edition
of
cax,
was
required
to
put
a
stub
out
for
38th
to
go
north
and
that's
that's
what
they
showed
in
there
in
their
planning
process
and
as
part
of
their
plat
too.
They
planted
that
right
away
for
38th
extension
going
north.
E
C
Is
my
map
up
now?
Yes,.
C
The
38th
extension
will
be
built
out
by
mr
horning
in
fourth
edition,
but
then
subsequent
to
that
the
landowner,
the
north,
whatever
whenever
they
want
to
do
something
with
their
land
related
to
development,
is
when
that
would
be
triggered.
H
Thank
you
mayor.
This
would
go
for
heath
in
regards
to.
I
just
want
some
clarity
on
33rd
you,
so
you
do
believe
in
its
current
state.
33Rd
would
be
able
to
handle
the
density
of
this
addition,
and,
of
course,
you
know,
we
have
to
look
ahead
to
additional
development
in
that
area,
but
as
it
exists
today
in
the
current
state,
you
believe
that
that
is
sufficient
to
accommodate
that
traffic.
C
It
it
doesn't
meet
our
design
standards
for
a
rural
collector.
We
would
have
four
foot
shoulders
on
it
if
it
were
to
be
built
to
meet
those-
and
I
believe
this
is
a
straight
24
foot
wide
street
section.
So
it
does
have
the
two
12
foot
lanes
is
required,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
four
foot
shoulders
that
would
be
required.
I
meet
our
design
standards
so
again
I'll
go
back
to
physically.
Can
the
road
handle
more
car
traffic?
Yes,
it's
just.
You
know
at
some
point.
C
When,
when
those
other
triggers
come
into
play
like
the
pedestrian
use,
for
example,
you
know
I
understand
at
times
there's
pedestrians
on
this
route
heading
up
to
dollar
general.
I
could
see
why
there
would
be,
but
then
then
other
improvements
like
pathway,
this
part
of
our
city's
pathway
master
plan
would
come
into
play,
not
necessarily
widening
the
roads,
so
they
had
a
shoulder
to
walk
on.
You
you'd
probably
take
a
different
stance
with
that
and
recommend
extending
the
pathway
up
to
that
up
to
highway
212..
C
So
it's
really
because
that
road
33rd,
is
this
one.
Road
of
our
network
of
a
long
list
of
capital
improvement
plan
needs
in
our
street
network.
It's
not
high
on
that
priority
list.
Right
now
is
what
I
would
say.
H
C
From
my
understanding,
the
east
half
of
the
roadway
is
not
annexed.
Is
that
correct
brandy
on
33rd,
east
half
is
not
asked
yet,
so
we
would
establish
the
full
width
of
the
right-of-way
at
the
time
of
annexation,
of
that
easterly
property.
So
currently,
today,
whatever
we
did
would
have
to
be
on
the
west
half,
and
I
assume
that
that
west
half
yes,
the
width-
is
probably
there,
but
there
might
be
a
lot
of
physical
constraints
in
the
way
that
would
have
to
be
looked
into.
H
If
I
might
mayor,
thank
you
also,
the
next
question
have
we:
we
approached
the
d.o.t
at
all
in
regards
to
ingress
and
egress
from
212,
with
this
additional
density
and
density
that
certainly
could
come
beyond
this.
C
C
38Th
ties
into
17th
again
I
apologize
for
the
map
generation
being
slow,
but
it
extends
north
from
17th
and
then
would
tie
in
up
on
highway
212.
there's
some
existing
or
very
recent
development
that
happened
along
212.
I
think
it's
a
seed
cleaning
place
facility
there,
so
33rd
we
did
require
them
to
preserve
an
area
of
their
property
for
33rd,
to
connect
to
highway
212
at
an
existing
approach
off
of
highway
212.
G
G
You'd
go
through
that
residential
district
over
the
33rd
and
up
north.
I
spent
a
little
time
on
on
33rd,
both
early
this
morning
and
and
saturday
afternoon
and
and
just
sat
and
counted
cars
and
in
a
half
an
hour.
This
morning
there
was
97
cars
that
use
that
intersection
and
saturday
afternoon,
at
a
little
after
five,
there
was
40.
Excuse
me
94
cars,
and
there
was
a
47
on
saturday
afternoon.
G
I
get
many
complaints
from
people
that
live
either
out
to
lake
or
west
side
of
watertown
that,
since
that
addition
has
been
put
in
out
there
that
that
intersection
is
very
dangerous
now,
and
I
think
if
you
look
back
at
police
reports,
we'll
we'll
see
a
lot
of
the
issues
with
that
intersection.
So
I
really
think
we
need
to
do
a
little
traffic
study
on
that
before
we
move
too
far
forward.
So
thank
you.
A
E
Thank
you
mayor.
I
basically
just
kind
of
answered
my
question
with
when
bruce
had
asked
you,
but
the
pedestrian
traffic
is
I'm
aware
of
as
well.
That
have
been
made
aware
too,
that
the
pedestrian
traffic
is
one
thing
to
really
keep
in
mind.
I
believe
in
the
near
future,
with
or
without
this
new
development.
E
D
Thank
you
mayor.
I
do
it
kind
of
too
easy
heath
has
19th
street
east
ever.
Has
that
ever?
How
do
I
want
to
word?
This
stopped
us
from
developing
east
of
19th
street,
even
though
that
is
a
half
road
for
sorry,
14th
avenue.
A
D
A
D
C
I'm
not
quite
pinpointing,
in
my
mind
the
location
that
you're
talking
about
councilman
paulson.
Could
you
expand
on
a
little
bit
which.
A
C
Oh,
I
got
you
yeah
that
we
just
reconstructed
year
or
two
ago,
yeah
no
there's
been
there's
been
development
allowed
to
the
east.
There,
the
never
forget
the
names.
Now
it's
been
a
couple
years
since
we've
worked
with
him,
but
the
prairie
haven,
prairie
prairie
view
preview,
subdivision
and
similar
subdivisions
have
gone
up
out
there.
H
Thank
you
mayor
question
for
heath
again.
If
I
would
assume
the
city
would
bear
any
costs
associated
with
any
changes
that
we'd
make
to
33rd,
I'm
sure
we
would,
and
I
would
ask
how
that
would
fit
in
our
priorities.
From
our
budgetary
standpoint,
I
mean
is
that
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
there's
been
any
plan
to
do
any,
make
any
changes
out
there,
and
how
would
that?
I
guess:
how
would
that
affect
our
budget?
Moving
forward
too.
C
Well,
I
guess
councilman
buehler
to
your
question
whether
the
city
would
participate
financially,
I
think,
isn't
necessarily
a
slam.
Dunk
conclusion
I
mean
there
are
the
conventional
or
traditional
means
of
going
through
an
assessment
process
for
those
improvements.
Property
owners
on
both
sides
of
the
roadway
would
be
assessed,
their
prorated
share
of
the
cost
for
expanding
or
rebuilding
that
street.
C
That's
not
to
say
that
there
aren't
streets
like
this
in
town,
where
the
city's
just
taking
on
us
of
the
reconstruction
of
them
and
have
done
it
on
their
own
at
their
own
cost.
I
haven't
put
any
numbers
to
what
that
would
cost
to
rebuild
33rd.
So
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
speak
to
that
off
the
top
my
head,
but
it
would
be
a
significant
you
know,
project
in
our
cip.
There's
no
doubt
in
that.
H
C
The
so
all
these
these
individual
lots
here
would
be
part
of
an
assessment
again
anybody
immediately
adjacent
to
or
realizing
benefit
to,
the
reconstruction
of
a
property
that
they're
to
the
right
away
that
they're
adjacent
to.
C
However,
I
would
say
that,
on
the
east
side,
these
properties
could
also
be
assessed
now
they
can't
be
formally
charged
or
build
out
that
assessment
until
they
are
in
the
city,
but
properties
are
outside
the
city
limits.
If
we
were
to
build
this
out,
we
could
assess
those
properties
and
that
assessment
would
sit
there
on
hold
until
a
point
in
time
when
that
property
was
annexed
into
the
city.
F
C
Correct
so
we
through
the
development
review
process
for
this
barren
land,
we
would
reference
our
transportation
master
plan
and
in
there
we
have
identified
38th
as
another
collector
route
tying
into
highway
212..
So
that
would
be
a
requirement
for
them
to
preserve
that
corridor
in
their
development.
F
Okay
and
then
just
to
piggyback
off
of
what
councilman
paulson
had
referenced
in
regards
to
14th
avenue.
So
I
just
in
my
mind,
get
an
understanding
of
a
given
road.
That
14th
avenue
northeast
is
that
a
minor
collector
was
that
just
a
residential.
C
The
long
range,
I'm
sure
would
have
it
being
a
major
collector
major
collector
when
you
get
west
at
19th.
That's
exactly
what
it
is
so.
F
C
B
B
Direct
it
to
you,
and
maybe
it
goes
to
our
park
superintendent,
what
what
are
the
requirements
and
the
related
plans
relative
to
park
space
bike
trails?
I
know
that
came
up
as
a
topic
of
conversation
in
the
planning
commission
meeting.
C
So
for
this
area
for
cax
subdivision
in
lieu
of
providing
a
park
place,
the
developers
committed
land
set
aside
for
part
of
the
path,
the
recreational
trail
expansion
through
this
area
and
again
as
we
got
through
the
the
10-year
build-out
development
agreement.
C
That
was
one
of
the
things
just
last
summer
that
sparked
some
interest,
as
the
developer
is
grading
out
the
pathway
that
he
was
committed
to
do
in
that
first
phase
and
then
is
subsequently
meant
to
tie
into
the
fourth
edition
and
extend
all
the
way
west
through
that
phase
of
the
subdivision
as
well.
So
there's
not
a
park
place
out
here.
There's
a
pathway,
dedication
and
grading
to
accommodate
a
future
pathway,
follow.
B
C
If
I
recall
from
prior
discussions,
I
I
think
there's
one
to
the
north
brandy.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
point
to
that
on
the
screen
or
not,
but
I
believe
there's
one
in
the
in
the
subdivision
to
the
north
of
cax.
E
Yes,
both
to
the
north
and
and
to
the
east,
pelican
view
estates
and
mallard
cove.
We
have
two
and
brandy's
on
two.
I
think
within
our
our
park
area
plan
they're,
both
between
a
quarter
and
a
half
mile
from
the
first
edition
of
cac.
So
when
we're
talking.
Fourth,
we're,
probably
at
close
to
three
quarters
to
a
full
mile,
but
there
are
two
matter:
cove
and
pelican
view
estates
do
have
an
existing
park
park,
property.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
just
for
the
record,
anyone
watching
or
in
attendance
here
that
is
our
director
of
the
parks
and
recreation
of
watertown
terry
kelly.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here,
terry.
So
any
further
questions
on
the
infrastructure,
councilman
danforth.
F
Maybe
well
I
don't
know
if
there's
infrastructure
or
not,
but
you
know
we
have-
we
have
concentrated-
and
I
think
understandably
and
rightfully
on
traffic
concerns,
because
that's
something
that
once
we
once
we
fall
out
of
and
we
get
development
around
it.
We
fall
out
of
good
practices
and
we
live
with
that
for
a
long
time
and-
and
that's
so
that's
a
big
concern.
But
the
other
side
of
this
becomes
in
our
zoning
becomes
the
visual
aspects
of
things
and
this
this
property
is,
I
believe,.
A
F
So
I'm
asking
the
question
is:
is
we
have
single
family
housing
and
we're
going
to
have
structures
here
that
are
going
to
be
four
stories
high
up
to
55
feet,
high
and
so
part
of
our
consideration
needs
to
be
that
proximity,
and
I
appreciate
it
mary,
but
that's
it
isn't
my
opinion.
It's
our
rules
and
my
question
then
becomes
us
for
consideration.
A
And
thank
you
for
that
councilman
and
I
just
wanted
to
specify
part
of
where
I
was
coming
from
and
I
want
to
apologize
to
the
council.
I
tried
to
make
it
clear
to
the
people
in
attendance
what
tonight's
or
today's
session
is
about,
but
to
the
council.
This
was
just
to
ask
questions
to
the
staff
and
that's
why
I
had
to
interrupt
when
I
thought
it
was
getting
away
from
the
questions.
A
There
is
nothing
intended
by
that,
but
at
the
actual
council
meeting
is
where
there
is
council
discussion
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
just
specify
the
difference
and
keep
the
integrity
of
the
work
session
versus
the
integrity
of
a
council
session.
That's
why
and
I
may
be
wrong,
and
you
can
call
me
out
on
that
and
if
anyone
does
have
a
point
of
order,
you
can
say
point
of
order.
A
I
have
the
right
to
say
this
you
sure
can,
but
at
a
work
session
I
try
to
limit
it
to
just
the
questions
involved,
any
further
questions
on
the
infrastructure.
So
I
I
thank
the
council
for
indulging
me
on
that,
and
I
hope
that
my
motivation
was
clear.
So,
thank
you
any
further
questions
on
the
infrastructure
councilman
paulson.
A
That
I
will
only
if
that
question
is
addressed
to
our
public
works
director.
This
is
not.
D
C
Yes,
that's
correct,
as
as
a
point
of
their
their
development
and
zoning
that
was
approved
for
that
structure.
Yes,.
A
All
right,
thank
you
any
further
questions
on
the
infrastructure,
all
right.
We
have
about
10
minutes
on
just
developers
the
dis
developer
aspect,
and
with
this
I'm
guess,
I'm
looking
for
an
understanding
both
among
council
and
the
public.
As
far
as
what
the
city's
role
is
in
deciding
what
a
developer
can
and
cannot
do
on
the
land
that
he
or
she
owns,
or
we
will
go
back
to
our
public
rights
director,
heath
von
nie,.
A
I
guess
the
question
is
I
will.
I
would
just
speak
personally
with
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
were
brought
to
me
from
people
concerned
about
this
issue
at
the
cax
edition.
A
lot
of
them
were
asking.
You
know,
why
is
the
city
allowing
more
apartments?
Well,
that's
not
really
our
decision
to
make
that
is
the
developers
decision
to
make,
as
is
a
marina
or
a
restaurant,
or
anything
like
that.
I
guess
I
want
just
so
that
people
can
understand
where
the
city
is
limited.
A
We
don't
make
those
decisions,
but
the
developer
does,
and
there
are
reasons
for
that
and
those
are
stipulated
by
law,
and
I
guess
I
wanted
a
little
bit
more
of
an
unders.
You
know
just
to
make
that
clear,
so
everything
is
out
in
the
open
on
that.
I
guess
is
what
I
was
looking
for.
I'd
be
open
for
council
input
on
that
as
well.
C
I
understand
that
now.
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah.
So,
generally
speaking,
I
was
able
to
pull
up
the
the
planned
unit
development
that's
proposed
here
today.
I've
shared
that
to
teams
looks
like
it's
on
the
screen
here
too.
C
So
you
know,
we've
recently
approved
planned
unit
development
for
rural
single-family
residential.
That's
what
the
developer
at
the
time
wanted
to
and
anticipated
to
build
out
on
his
land,
so
that
was
the
application,
was
brought
forth
and
processed
and
met
all
the
criteria
that
it
needed
to
and
received
all
the
approvals
that
it's
needed
to
thus
far
and
has
an
approved
plat
for
that
land.
C
So
he
can
now
go
out
and
sell
those
single-family
rural
residential
lots
out
in
that
fourth
edition
and
obtain
building
permits,
and
he's
also
required
to
then
build
the
infrastructure
to
sustain
that
development
now
like
like
they
do
from
time
to
time.
Plans
have
shifted
where
he's
got
another
developer
interested
in
a
handful
of
lots
and
would
like
to
propose
this
higher
density
apartment
use
type
of
residential
out
to
accommodate.
C
So
there
it,
you
know
just
becomes
a
a
matter
of
subjectivity
on
what
what
people
feel
is
right
to
do
with
the
land
in
these
areas
and
what
they
want
to
do
and
put
their
money
into
and
invest
into
in
these
areas,
not
at
all,
driven
by
the
city.
You
know
there's
times
when
the
city's
economic
development
arm
helps
bring
business
to
town,
but
we,
the
city,
aren't
in
the
business
of
developing
per
se.
You
know
nobody
asked
a
developer
to
bring
apartments
to
lake
pelican,
specifically
from
the
city.
C
Now
that
doesn't
mean
there
wasn't
interest
out
there
in
the
development
world
that
they
felt
it
was
worth
their
time
and
energy
and
money
to
bring
a
proposal
like
this
forward.
So
that's
generally
how
these
things
transpire
and
by
circumstance,
this
one
just
happens
to
be
right
on
the
heels
of
what
was
just
recently
approved
for
single
family
residential
and
is
now
being
looked
at
differently,
but
has
to
be
vetted
through
the
public
process,
as
we
are
doing.
A
B
You
mayor,
and
maybe
this
question
is
going
to
be
out
of
bounds
and,
if
so
tell
me,
but
I
guess
I'll
I'll
probably
address
this
to
our
city
attorney
and
I
know
a
lot
has
been
said.
B
A
lot
has
been
said
about
the
covenants
that
were
in
place
on
the
first
three
phases
of
cact,
and
I
know
the
planning
commission
passed
it
subject
to
and
I'm
not
quite
this
work
is
fuzzy
in
my
mind,
subject
to
a
covenant
of
some
sort
being
in
place
on
the
fourth
edition
matt.
Can
you
address
that?
I
mean
first
of
all,
do
the
covenants
on
the
first
three
editions
have
any
bearing
on
the
fourth
edition
and
then
what's
what
kind
of
covenant
is
expected
or
required
by
the
planning
commission?
On
the
fourth
edition.
A
D
D
The
covenants
that
were
submitted
with
the
pud
plan
that
was
approved
for
the
fourth
edition
would
not
allow
for
this.
The
proposed
use
under
this
pud
plan.
So
what
the
plan
commission
said
is
essentially
they
they
gave
their
approval
contingent
on
the
city
receiving
a
copy
of
the
new
covenants
that
would
allow
for
the
use
now
covenants
are,
are
not
required
to
be
submitted
for
np
in
the
pd
plan
process,
but
if
they
have
them,
the
city
requests
them
and
they
were
submitted
as
part
of
this
process.
D
Covenants
are
purely
a
matter
of
civil
contract
between
the
property
owners
and
in
this
case,
because
mr
horning
is
currently
the
property
owner
of
record
of
the
entire
fourth
edition.
Those
those
covenants
can
presumably
be
be
changed
at
will
of
of
mr
horning
at
the
will
of
mr
horning.
A
Public
works
director
heath
van.
I
has
something
to
add.
C
Yeah
I'd
maybe
just
paint
that
a
little
bit
different
light
to
where
really
the
the
amendment
of
the
fourth
edition
covenants
were
a
housekeeping
item,
because
it's
written
in
there,
similarly
to
the
first
through
third
editions
as
for
single-family
residential.
Only
so
it
was
a
housekeeping
item
that
the
planning
commission
shed
light
on
for
the
developer
to
make
sure
he
cleans
that
up
before
allowing
these
high
density
residential
uses.
A
A
A
A
The
item
on
tonight's
council
is
going
to
be
a
first
hearing,
but
I
a
first
reading,
but
I
do
understand
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
here
who
wanted
to
be
heard
and
expected
to
be
heard.
So
I
will
allow
some
comments,
but
I
just
ask-
and
I
will
reiterate
that
at
the
next
council
meeting,
so
I
will
not
be
redundant
myself
but
just
say
I
will
stipulate
the
rules
at
the
council
meeting.
That
will
happen
next.
A
This
was
just
for
council
information
and
I
hope
that
at
least
those
who
are
in
attendance
who
watch
this
or
can
go
back
and
watch.
This
can
respect
the
time
and
effort
and
the
deliberation
that
the
entire
council
and
our
staff
has
put
into
this-
and
this
is
none
of
this
was
done
lightly.
So
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
We
will
be
back
in
about
eight
minutes
to
begin
our
council
meeting
and
I
do
want
to
say
for
everyone
in
attendance.
A
I
want
to
respect
your
time
as
well
and
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
respect
your
time
is.
I
will
move
this
agenda
item
up
to
the
first
item.
On
the
agenda
so
that
you
can
get
home
and
eat
dinner
with
your
families
and
all
of
that,
so
I
want
to
respect
your
time,
just
as
we
would
ask
you
to
respect
ours.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
understanding
all
that.
You'll
hear
some
of
that
at
the
council
meeting
in
about
10
minutes.