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From YouTube: App Runtime Deployments Working Group [May 25, 2022]
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A
Let's
start
welcome
to
our
fourth
working
group
meeting.
If
I'm
not
counting
wrong,
there
is
not
too
much
on
the
agenda
so.
A
A
Yeah,
so
it's
running
fine
everyone
who
is
member
of
the
corresponding
github
team,
can
authenticate
and
see
this
hello
world
pipeline
and
the
instance
is
running
on
this.
Gcp
account
cf
deployments
working
group.
Not
everyone
has.
A
B
A
It's
two
meeting
series,
because
it's
on
the
second
and
fourth
thursday
in
a
month,
it's
the
same
mess
in
outlook.
You
need
two
meeting
series
to
correct.
B
A
A
Set
this
up,
I,
I
am
also
a
bit
seriously.
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah:
oh
okay,
good!
Yes!
So
with
some
effort,
it's
working,
yeah,
okay,
good!
So
I
was
just
announcing
that
we
now
have
our
running
concourse
instance:
yeah
everything
is
working.
Fine
access,
authorization
with
github
teams
works;
let's
encrypt
certificate
works,
so
we
are
now
a
great
hub
works,
so
we
can
store
credentials
in
pipeline
credentials,
so
we
are
now
ready
to
migrate
the
first
pipelines.
A
Okay,
while
setting
up
this
congress
instance,
we
have
of
course
found
a
lot
of
issues,
because
this
was
yeah
tailored
for
the
bosch
sea
icon
course,
and
we've.
B
A
A
lot
of
refactoring
pull
requests.
I
joined
the
foundational
infrastructure
working
group
meeting
and
yeah.
They
are
now
reviewing
the
requests
and
I
hope
they
merged
them
soon.
We'll
also
update
all
the
documentation
so
that,
hopefully,
everyone
is
able
to
maintain
the
concourse.
That
is
basically
update,
the
concourse
version
and
other
versions
if
needed,
yeah.
A
So,
but
in
total
it
just
worked.
Fine
all
resources
can
be
found
in
our
cf
deployments.
Working
group
gcp
account.
A
If
you
need
access,
you
have
to
contact
either
chris
aftab
or
me,
and
then
we
can
grant
access
if
anyone
needs
to
to
access
the
resources
or
work
with
gcloud
yeah.
You
see
we
have
a
kubernetes
cluster
with
the
workload
here
at
the
containers
running.
We
have
one
sql
sql
database
postgres
and
the
network
resources
and
yeah.
A
B
B
When
I
joined
release,
integration
they'd
gone
completely
to
the
other
extreme
of
having
one
project
per
bosch
environment
which,
on
the
one
hand,
seemed
a
bit
heavy-handed.
But
on
the
other
hand,
I
could
see
how
having
everything
in
a
single
project
would
mean
that
that
project
would
need
a
lot
of
resources
or
large
quotas
for
resources.
And
I
don't
know
how
easy
it
would
be
to
get
that
set
up
as
opposed.
A
So
I
mean
keeping
everything
in
one
account
does
not
sound
too
bad,
I
would
say
possibly
it's
also
easier
for
for
billing
and
other
stuff.
But
of
course
quite
surely
you
have
to
adapt
quotas
if
we
spin
up
multiple
bosch
environments
with
several
10
20
30
vms
each.
A
B
We
can
also
discuss
you
know
whether
we
want
to
have
custom
ops
files
for
ci
that
downsize
each
deployment
to
make
it
more
manageable,
from
a
from
a
quota
and
and
cars
perspective
for
the
foundation.
And
you
know
how
you
know,
rather
than
using
the
defaults
that
are
in
ncf
deployment.
C
Yeah,
I
think
david
stevenson
wanted
to
give
it
a
try
and
and
ask
around
it
on
the.
A
Definitely
yeah
again,
that's
right.
He
contacted
me
and
asked
whether
the
vm
sizes
are
defined,
and,
yes,
that
would
definitely
make
sense
to
define.
I
mean
we
do
the
same
here
at
sap.
We
have
also
our
def
landscapes.
We
have.
We
try
to
use
smaller,
vm,
smaller
and
cheaper
vm
sizes
yeah
the
number
of
vms.
Well,
of
course,
there's
a
lower
limit
yeah.
You
can't
go
lower
than
four
api
nodes
or
you
will
get
problems
right.
A
Yes,
there
is
a
nice
way
to
access
great
hub.
It
is
also
where
am
I
I
am
here
it
is
described
here.
We
will
update
this
read
me
a
little
bit
because
it's
a
bit
brief.
It's
actually
two
lines
and
there's
a
helper
script
start
gretap
cli.
A
I
can
try
it,
it
should
work.
Maybe
I
have
to
re-authenticate.
B
A
A
Okay,
so
I
don't
have
too
much
on
the
agenda:
let's
quickly
go
over
the
action
items
we
defined
in
the
last
meetings,
there's
also
not
really
much.
What's
still
open
is
yeah
dedicated
way
to
exchange
credentials.
A
Yeah
I
mean
okay,
we
have.
We
have
now
a
way
to
store
credentials.
At
least
we
need
for
the
pipelines
yeah
exchanging.
I
don't
know
better
way
than
we
don't
have
anything
better
yet
than
slack
private
selection.
B
A
A
B
I
mean
we've,
it's
sql,
backed
which
presumably
is
has
got
gcloud
backups.
So.
A
B
B
C
A
A
Okay,
so
we
will
actually
or
yeah
come
to
the
next
point.
Yeah
we're
still
expecting
an
invitation
for
a
pairing
session.
B
Yes,
let's
see,
we
should
be
at
a
point
where
we
could
cut
a
release.
Yeah
the
pipeline
is
green
and
there
are.
When
was
the
last
time
we
could
release
it's
been.
B
C
B
A
Early
next
week
next
week
is
fine,
just
note
that
on
tuesday
we
have
our
mental
health
day.
Okay,
that's
good,
always
important
an
additional
vacation
day
for
the
whole
company
as
compensation
for
the
for
the
headaches
you
have
in
home
office,
so
in
in
june,
starting
from
june
first
would
be
good
and
everything.
Then
people
are
back
in
the
office.
Okay,.
A
B
B
B
Okay,
I
mean
we
could
maybe
yeah
even
push
to
eight
to
to
five
o'clock
I'll
I'll
I'll
check,
because
I
see
here
so
we'll
see
what
his
availability
is
and
okay,
we'll
go
from
that.
That
works
with
me.
A
A
So
yeah,
then
the
next
step.
This
is
already
planned
for
our
next
sprint.
I
think
also
is
then
to
migrate
a
pipeline
yeah.
We
will
have
to
decide
on
one
easy
pipeline,
of
which
we
then
try
to
deploy
on
our
on
the
new
concourse
and
then
also
migrate,
all
the
credentials.
C
Test
sounds
fine,
because
that
would
be
then
also
one
of
the
next
things
is
here
to
automate
the
golan
updates,
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
but
yeah.
C
C
B
A
B
B
So
this
might
be
a
yeah.
I
think
this
would
be
a
good
low
risk
first
pipeline
to
work
on.
C
Test
environment
that
is
used
here
is
that
a
ephemeral
one
so
one
that
is
set
up
and
tear
down.
B
C
B
In
some
ways
that
makes
it
easier
in
some
ways
that
makes
it.
I
think
it
should
be
okay,
I'm
not
sure
what
happened
there.
It
looks
like
the
pipeline
definition
was
changing.
I
need
to
look
at
that,
or
maybe
carson
has
context
on
what
checks,
I'm
not
sure
yeah.
A
A
Yeah,
okay,
fine
yeah,
so
then
yeah
we
have
a
first
candidate
for
migration.
That's
good!.
A
B
The
other
thing
I
had
on
on
my
list
that,
unfortunately
I
didn't
get
to
because
I've
been
basically
out
since
the
last
working
group
meeting
with
kovid-
is
that
I
need
to
create
an
issue
for
the
jammy
stem
cell
work.
B
So
I
still
have
that
on
my
list.
I
haven't.
I
haven't
gotten
to
that.
Yet
I
only
got
back
at
work
monday.
B
My
son
came
home
from
school
with
it
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
whereas
I
was
fortunate
when
my
wife
caught
it
back
in
february
and
I
didn't
catch
it
then
I
cut
it
this
time,
so
not
good.
Sooner
or
later.
Yes,
although.
A
B
A
Yeah
not
really
no
okay,
good
yeah.
Finally,
project
board
is,
is
updated,
so
yeah.
B
A
So
yeah
this
is
still
a
bit,
maybe
confusing.
B
A
Requiring
requiring
some
double
maintenance
for
all
the
issues,
but
I
I
updated
it.
As
you
know,
we
got,
I
think,
two
new
repositories,
some
test
tooling,
which
did
not
belong
to
anyone,
and
now
this
was
assigned
to
our
working
group
this
one
here-
relin,
cip
and
the
sea
of
test
helpers.
Yes,.
A
That's
okay,
we'll
also
get
soon
familiar
with
that
one,
and
this
board
here
contains
now
all
issues
of
all
projects.
Okay,
yeah.
We
don't
need
to
go
through
them,
one
by
one.
I
I
checked
them
updated
a
few
things
and
yeah.
I
think,
there's
just
nothing
really
urgent.
We
should
maybe
create
one
for
the
goal.
C
I
have
one
question
not
directly
related
to
another
project
setup,
but
do
you
know
if
there's
a
validation
running
as
part
of
cf
deployment
processes
that
switches
off
the
v2
api.
C
There's
an
experimental
ops
file
and
cf
deployment
to
to
do
that,
but
is
it
tested
with.
D
Of
course,
maybe
the
experimental
environment,
then,
if
it's
yeah.
B
Mental
ops
file
right
I'm
just
looking
to
save
more
v2.
A
C
B
If
you
look
at
the
readme
in
that
directory,
if
you
scroll
down
it
lists
all
of
the
ops
files
and
there's
a
column
on
the
right
that
says
whether
it's
used
in
any
of
our
pipelines.
C
A
B
It's
very
easy
to
add
to
the
experimental
environment,
which
is
normally
what
we
would
do,
given
that
it's
an
experimental
ops
file,
that's
where
we
would
test
those,
so
it's
definitely
possible
to
add
to
that.
I
don't
know
what
that
would
mean
in
terms
of
whether
there
are
a
subset
of
cats
that
we
would
expect
to
start
failing.
If
we
did
that.
C
Yeah,
that's
exactly
the
interesting
question
here
to
find
out,
I
mean
it
can
only
run
with
cf-8.
That's
clear:
cli
version,
8.
right.
C
B
B
I
mean
that's
definitely
possible
to
to
add
we
can.
B
We
can
go
through
that
process
on
wednesday
as
part
of
our
pairing
session
yeah.
You
know
and
work
on
the
pipeline
and
and
get
that
running
and
then
switch
to
like
cutting
a
release
of
that
while
it's
running
and
then
we'll
we'll
get
some
feedback
by
the
end
of
the
session.
Maybe
although
it
does
take
quite
a
long
time
for
the
experimental
deploys
to
that
yeah,
that
may
not
happen,
but
we'll
we'll
definitely
get
it
going.
A
A
Okay,
so
this
is
definitely
enough
input
for
us
to
fill
our
next
sprint.