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From YouTube: GitOpsCon Committee - April 15, 2021
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Meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hxifmCdOV5_FbKloDJRWZQHq0ge-trXJKF-BgV4wHVk/edit#heading=h.kr2ebmvnmiq7
A
Great
welcome
to
the
april
15th
follow
up
to
help
organize
getupscon
with
get
ops,
working
group
and
interested
parties.
Well
that
was
it.
I'm
gonna
open
up
the
try
to
open
up
that
doc,
and
can
I
just
ask
a
housekeeping
question
for
all
of
you
there
would
it
be
valuable
in
any
way
to
move
anything
from
this
doc
to
the
public
meeting,
notes
doc,
or
is
that
just
not
helpful
at
this
point.
C
C
A
C
B
C
C
There
I
think
there
is
some
attrition
from
what
I
understand
from
what
aubry's
having
conversations
with
the
cncf
folks,
so
there
might
be
people
coming
in
and
out
and
not
even
coming
to
the
social
event,
but
we
do
need
to
one
consider
what
we
need
to
do
if
we
hit
capacity
right,
if,
if
they're,
if
we
either
tamil,
actually
said,
we
can
just
break
them
off
into
individual
rambly,
I
guess
spaces
for
different
conversations,
so
we
can
do
it.
That
way.
Hop
in
also
has
a
feature.
C
C
C
Yeah
that
well
it's
very
open,
so
I
kind
of
wanted
to
hash
out
the
idea
with
you
guys
of.
If
you
know,
should
we
have
an
alternative
plan
should
we
do
something
else
other
than
rambly
or
should
we
have
like
an
alternative
plan,
or
should
we
just
plan
on
using
rambly
and
kind
of
just
create
accounts,
as
we
need
them
right
as
people
so
I'll
now,
now
I'll
open
it
up
just
to
kind
of
see
what
ideas
you
guys
have,
I'm
glad.
F
F
C
G
So
I'm
jumping
in
midstream,
but
I
recall
when
we
first
were
brainstorming,
that
we
were
brainstorming.
The
possibility
that
there
would
be
different
platforms
like
maybe
animal
crossing
would
be
one
and
rambly
would
be
one,
and
so
I
thought
that
there
was
a
possibility
that
people
had
different
choices.
So
not
everybody
was
pushed
to
just
one,
so
that
would
help
separate
out.
But
I
don't
know
those
are
just
some
ideas
that
I
don't
know
if
those
took
off
having
a
mixture
of
things
where
I
think
I
think
people
are
excited
about
animal
crossing.
C
D
G
D
G
C
G
H
E
C
Official
event
thing
like
you
know,
so
I
do
like
the
the
idea
of
of
having
different
things
for
different
people,
making
it
feel
more
social
than
the
kind
of
like
official
sort
of
thing
right.
So
I
do
like
that
that
aspect
of
it
is
just
I
don't.
I
don't
know
the
best
way.
Moving
forward,
I
guess
is,
is
my
my
challenge
right.
C
It's
like
okay,
so
like
what
are
we
now
now
that
cfp's
closed
tomorrow,
which
is,
I
guess
something
else
would
discuss,
but
you
know
now
that
it's
closing
we're
like
we
actually
do
need
to
like
mix
our
making
pouring
some
concrete
right.
I
only
liked
rambling
because
you
could
just
do
it
ad
hoc,
so.
G
Because
also
the
I
think,
the
social
events
at
the
end
of
the
day
right
so
at
some
point
people
are
all
going
to
dissipate
anyway.
So
I
don't
know
if,
like
you,
need
to
keep
them
contained
like
when
they're
all
gonna,
either
just
leave
or
it's
kind
of
like
a
you,
know,
social
birds
of
a
feather
kind
of
thing
where,
and
you
should
certainly
have
that
too.
G
If
people
want
a
nerd
out
for
another
90
minutes
or
whatever
just
like
go,
you
know
I've
been
to
those,
you
know,
in-person
birds
with
feather,
and
sometimes
it's
like
this
is
how
they
want
to
spend
their
social
hour.
They're
delighted
that
they're
with
17
other
people
like
going
super
deep
on
something.
So
you
know
those
can
be
options
too,
and
you
know
people
do
kind
of
scatter
at
the
end.
A
That
sounds
like
a
lot
of
people,
but
I
don't
know
how
many
people,
how
many
of
those
people
actually
will
join
in
the
end,
it's
given
that
it's
a
free
event,
and
you
know
what
I
mean,
because
that
changes
the
numbers
too
and
and
of
those
people
how
many
will
want
to
do
something
afterwards.
So
my
I
like
the
idea
tama
personally
of
of
having
you
know
like
multiple
parties,
it's
like!
Oh,
you
know
this
party
kind
of.
I
don't
know
it's
not
my
speed.
A
D
D
D
G
And
if
it's
like
a
page,
then
you
can
kind
of
almost
edit
it
in
real
time
so
like
if,
if
we
find
oh
okay,
we've
got
1200
people
registered.
So
now
we
might
expect
maybe
200
in
the
social
events.
Then
maybe
we
can
say:
okay,
let's
add
an
animal
crossing
and
if
someone's
willing
to
own
that
they're,
the
kind
of
the
owner
of
like
okay.
This
is
how
we're
going
to
meet
there
or.
B
B
G
And
you
know
it's
something
we
can
also
reach
out
to.
You
know
the
community
as
well
like,
if,
if
we
do
see
like
wow
we're
at
1500
and
like
maybe,
we
should
consider
like
a
final
fantasy
one
like
none
of
us,
have
to
learn
that
we
can
be
like
hey
we're
thinking
about
a
final
fantasy
room.
Does
anybody
want
to
do
it?
I'm
sure
you'll
have
somebody
so.
C
G
B
B
C
G
A
E
C
D
D
Yeah
there's
a
schedule
on
the
like
reception
area
that
we
can
easily
update,
okay
and
then
it's
so
it
sounds
like
we'll
be
giving
people
links
to
go
to
some
other
platform.
So
I
also
think
at
the
end
of
the
keynote
we'll
just
have
a
static
slide
up.
That
should
have
here's
the
two
areas
to
go.
We
can
throw
those
two
links
in
chat
as
well,
so
they're
live
links
for
people,
just
click
on
and
go.
But
yes,
the
platform,
I
think,
will
will
accommodate
that
easily.
D
C
C
A
D
C
So
yeah,
so
I
guess
a
few
things
in
terms
of
I
guess
we
could
talk
about
this
since
aubrey's
on
on
this
on
this
call
about
getting
the
the
process
of
getting
the
the
the
cfps
we
we
chose
to,
I
guess
to
hop
in
right
is
that
is
that
something
you
know?
How
are
we
going
to
provide
that?
I
guess
to
aubrey.
I
don't
know
I
guess
when
we
make.
D
You
know
interesting
to
them
right.
So,
if
I
think
I
started
putting
in
this
meeting
note
stock
the
requirements
for
a
speaker,
but
if
you
guys
could
start
filtering
through
at
least
the
session
titles,
the
speaker
name
and
the
company
that
they're
coming
through
I'll
put
that
in
as
soon
as
you
guys
are
ready.
We
can
always
shuffle
the
spots
around.
D
B
D
So
christian,
I
can
be
super
flexible.
Whatever
is
easiest
for
you
guys
to
piece
together.
There
was
a
second
document
that
was
specific
to
the
cfps,
though,
do
you
want
me
to
put
the
requirements
for
for
what
I
need
in
terms
of
abstract
and
length,
and
all
that
in
that
document?
Instead
of
this
one.
D
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
ask
is:
we
talked
about
giving
people
the
option
of
doing
live
or
recorded,
so
I
you
know
in
regards
to
trying
to
figure
out
scheduling
and
run
throughs
on
the
you
know
week
that
people
are
going
to
have
to
do
it
if
we
can
also
push
or
are
we
going
to
just
hold
them
to
whatever
they
put
into
the
cfp,
that
they
want
to
record
the
session
or
have
it
live?
That
would
be
another
decision.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
to
make
early
with
the
speakers.
A
D
K
F
B
D
E
E
C
F
A
C
E
C
D
B
B
D
D
B
A
The
answer
is
yes,
yeah.
I
I
got.
I
was
added
to
that
by
cncf
initially,
when
we,
when
we
had
this,
we're
just
really
starting
to
set
up
with
these
things,
and
the
idea
was
that
we
actually
haven't
quite
set
up
a
communications
team
yet,
but
the
idea
is
that
we
would,
but
I
think
like
we
should
do
that
for
this.
For
sure
I'll,
add
you
and
if
there's
someone
else
that
wants
to
be
added
we'll
do
it.
F
Cool-
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
segue
into
the
question
that
I
had
because
communication-
I
think
somebody
needs
to
show
in
kind
of
like
writing
up
the
template-
that
we're
gonna
send
out
to
people
that
didn't
get
their
cfp
accepted.
We
need
also
a
template
for
the
people
that
did
get
the
cfp
accepted
so
kind
of
like
writing
those
up
and
then
scheduling
them
going
out.
D
F
E
F
Have
those
set
in
stone
already
there
is,
there
is
a
there
is
an
agenda
that
is
a
proposed
agenda.
Christian
had
some
comments
last
time
as
to
condensing
it.
So
maybe
we
can
reach
kind
of
like
a
point
of
agreement
so
that
we
have
that
set
in
stone.
Do
you
think
it's
time
or
do
we
still
have
unknowns
that
we
need
to
incorporate
into
that
decision?.
C
F
C
C
We
need
to
make
our
decision
by
the
21st
here
and
then
we
have
event
agenda
announcement
and
communication
to
presenters
the
23rd.
So
that
gives
us
like,
like
a
very,
very
tight
window
and-
and
I
guess
the
week-
I
guess
that
weekend
until
april
so
april,
30th
is
the
submit
time.
So
that
gives
us
very
little
time.
C
D
D
C
C
F
J
J
Agree
with
you,
I
I
ran
this
a
very
similar
event
for
mesosphere
day
two
iq
and
I'm
not
sure
how
you
all
are
collecting
all
of
the
stuff
that
y'all
are
asking
for,
but
I,
but
to
your
point,
you're
going
to
ask
them
for
like
their
twitter
handles
and
their
headshot
in
their
bio
and
all
of
those
things
and
you're
going
to
get
half-assed
responses.
I
mean
just
be
honest:
right,
they're
not
going
to.
J
Everything
so
you're
gonna
have
to
go
back,
so
my
opinion
on
this
would
be
and
I'm
open
to
suggestions-
and
I
know
I'm
new
to
the
group
on
this-
so
take
it
with
a
grain
of
salt,
but
my
suggestion
would
be
give
them
a
hard
deadline
of
a
week
that
and
build
in
a
buffer
on
the
back
end
for
you
to
have
to
come
back
and
ask
for
that
again,
you
know
yeah.
We
never.
J
J
Know
so
like
when
somebody,
after
you
yeah
the
submission
so
after
after
you've
notified
them
right
and
you're,
saying
hey,
we've
accepted
your
talk
here
are
all
the
deadlines:
here's
everything
that
you
need.
How
are
you
asking
them
to
turn
that
information
back
into
you
all
of
that
content?
Where
does.
D
C
C
J
You
need
to
make
it
as
easy,
I
think
aubry
you're
saying
this:
we
need
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
them
and
be
very
transparent
about
what
it
is
and
when
we
need
it
and
make
it
universal
across
the
board.
So
the
way
we
collected
it
at
day,
two
iq
is
we
built
a
google
form
and
just
built
in
everything
we
need
to
that
and
then
it
all
dumped
into
the
appropriate
folders
so
that
people
could
see
it.
J
J
E
K
K
J
F
My
concern
was
so
much
freedom
is
you're.
Gonna
have
to
be
jumping
through
a
bunch
of
hoops.
Maybe
you
know,
like
somebody
forgot
to
give
you
access.
Somebody
has
a
pretty
crappy
link
and
they're,
giving
you
a
download
link
from
their
home
computer
and
you're
downloading
it
10
kilobytes
per
second.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
you
you
don't
know
what
you're
going
to
run
into
right.
B
B
K
K
E
C
D
D
C
Okay,
so
then,
then,
my
next
I'm
happy
to
help
draft
that
yeah
yeah.
So
that
was
my
next
question.
I'm,
like
you,
know
who's
who's,
whose
lap
is
that
gonna
fall
under,
because
I
think
I
think
I'm
keen
on
that
and
since
the
short
timeline
we
should
just
go
with
that.
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Sarah,
that's
that's!
Yeah!.
J
I
B
J
E
J
D
I'll,
I
think
I
can
draft
that
up
pretty
quickly.
I
also
have
the
requirements
or
the
requests.
I
should
say
from
the
platform
on
what
they
asked
for
of
a
speaker.
I
already
stalked
cornelia
and
cmoc
and
pulled
their
profile
pictures
and
their
you
know
linkedin
profiles
etc
from
there.
So
we
know
what
we
need.
C
C
D
So
a
quick
follow-on
question
for
speakers,
regardless
of,
if
they're
doing
a
live,
presentation
or
recording,
do
we
want
them
to
still
have
access
to
do
q,
a
management
on
the
back
end?
So
do
we
promote
them?
If
you
will
to
speaker
even
if
we're
playing
a
recording,
so
they
can
be
answering
questions
live
in
the
chat.
I
think.
D
K
I
would
like
to
see
a
requirement
that
the
speaker
is
available
for
chat
based
q,
a
during
the
playback
of
his
or
her
video
and
the
people
who
are
not
ready
to
do
that.
In
my
opinion,
should
go
to
the
very
bottom
of
the
stack
yeah,
because
otherwise
people
will
just
drop
off
videos,
they've
produced
or
maybe
held
in
five
other
events
and
use
us
for
self-promotion
without
investing
anything
themselves.
C
K
F
I
have
a
practical
question
in
terms
of
implementation.
I
agree
with
you,
but
my
question
is:
how
do
we
go
about
that
when
we
don't
know
we
haven't
asked
of
them?
This
information
in
the
cfp
form
so
we're
going
to
be
going
to
select
cfps
blindly
of
whether
they're
available
or
not
we're
going
to
realize
whether
they
are
available
after
their
target
has
been
selected.
F
K
C
That
I
think
that
could
be
part
of
the
the
form
of
the
ups.
You
know,
like
congratulations,
you'll
be
accepted.
Please
fill
out
this
form
and
part
of
the
form
is
a
radio
button.
I
understand
that
I
need
to
be
live
and
if
they
don't
click
that
button
or
if
they
you
know
they
failed
to,
then
you
know
we.
We
have
the
answer
for
from
that
right.
E
K
What's
important
to
understand
is
that
we
cannot
tell
12
people
you
have
your
talk
has
been
selected,
but
we
actually
only
have
10
slots
so
either
we
we
need
to
be
specific
and
tell
people
you're
on
the
wait
list,
but
please
confirm
everything
and
if
somebody
bails
out
you'll
be
the
first
to
that.
We
call
upon.
I
think
it's
fair
to
tell
five
people
that
they
are
the
first,
that
we
call
upon.
C
C
F
E
C
C
Yeah
nice
and
for
the
the
cfp,
people
yeah
we'll
we'll
need
to.
Hopefully
we
know
to
vote
quick.
You
know,
or
I
mean
obviously
not
don't
do
it
just
half-ass,
but
you
know
we
give
you
know,
vote
they
didn't
give
enough
people
time,
give
us
enough
time
giving
up
people
enough
time
so,
hopefully
we'll
we
can
send
out
the
email
wednesday
instead
of
friday.
But
you
know,
however
long
it
takes
hour
long
takes,
but
hopefully
this
this
will
just
like
work
out
so
yeah.
C
Okay,
so
so
I
guess
action
items
aubry
you
say:
you're
gonna
work
on
the
form.
I
can
show
that
out
in
the
working
group,
if
you
want
to
or
if
you
want
you
can
hop
on
slack
part
of
the
working
group.
Let
me
know
okay,
and
we
can
shout
out
there
for
for
people
to
look
at.
I
think
there's
no,
no
rambly
follow-ups
there,
because
we're
just
gonna
get
gonna.
Do
that
odd,
ad
hoc.
C
D
Sorry,
I
wanted
a
really
tactical
thing
on
the
cfp's.
The
hop-in
platform
only
allows
160
characters
for
the
summary
of
a
session.
I
did
have
one
of
my
peers,
who
works
with
the
platform,
suggested
a
a
one-off
schedule
building
tool,
so
we
can
have
these
longer
abstracts
that
people
have
already
submitted
through
their
cfps.
C
Yeah,
I
don't,
I
don't
have
a
preference
like
if
we,
if
I
would
much
rather
have
the
full.
You
know
full
abstracts
from
people.
Even
if
someone
has
like
click
somewhere
else
to
see
it
right,
we
can
have
like
a
snippet
yep
and
then
they
can
click
somewhere
else
to
go
see
it.
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
fine.
I
think
that's
happened
to
me
before.
I
think
like
I've
clicked
something
and
it
takes
me
somewhere
else.
It's
not
for
me.
It's
not
a
big
deal.
I
don't
have
any
strong
feelings
against
it.
A
C
A
And
it's
just
you
know,
I
mean
I
think,
that's
why
this
kind
of
note
format
is
useful
because
you
can
just
kind
of
like
dump
what
you
need
to
that
said.
I'm
not!
I
don't
want
to
complicate
things.
So
do
you
think?
Could
anyone
maybe
help
me
figure
out
like
how
to
kind
of
like
add
these
back
into
the
back
into
the
dock
or
or
just
maybe
we
keep
them
here?
What
do
you?
What
do
you
all
think.
A
C
Well,
you
know,
as
I
see
it,
you
know
this.
This
is
kind
of
like
a
committee
within
the
larger
group,
so
we
not
like
a
polluting
I
hate
using
that
word
but,
like
I
don't
want
to
just
dump
like
everything
in
in
one
area
and
it
may
not.
Someone
else
may
not
necessarily
care
about
what
we
discussed,
but
those.
A
K
K
Somebody
has
to
turn
off
submission
on
the
cfp
forum
yeah.
I
guess
that
will
be
leonardo
and
that
would
be
leo
and
would
be
nice
to
send
out
a
note
to
all
of
us
that
we
can
start
reviewing
these
if
the
the
entries,
although
we
actually
can
already
start
now
with
the
review,
because
those
that
have
been
submitted
already
won't
change
now,.
C
C
A
C
What
you
get
when
you
drop
that's
right,
although
we
are
going
a
little
over,
but
that's
okay,
yeah,
that's
fine,
yeah
and
then
well
yeah.
I
do
have
something
I
need
to
get
to
so
yeah.
So
I
think
that's,
I
think.
That's
all
that's
pressing
for
now.
I
think
for
the
do
we
want
to
have
another
cfp
meeting
sometime
next
week
I
mean
we
have
to
meet
at
least
once
next
week.
C
K
K
C
Was
actually
I
was,
I
was
actually
up
at
5am
before
am
this
morning,
because
I
was
talking
to
a
customer
one
of
our
customers
in
germany,
so
I'm
used
to
getting
up
a
little
earlier
so
that
that's
I'm
fine
with
it
we'll
we'll
pick.
You
know
we'll
pick
sloths
try
to
make
everyone
happy.
Thank
you!
So
do
you?
C
A
A
E
C
E
A
A
The
more
I
think
about
that,
the
more
I
think
we
we
really
ought
to
do
that.
I
know
we
said
before
I'll
save
more
of
the
discussion
until
then,
but
but
I
know
we
said
before
it
may
depend
on
how
many
proposals
we
get,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
for
for
for
the
community
to
be
able
to
hear
at
the
very
least
here's
where
we're
at
here's.