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From YouTube: GitOpsCon Committee - April 20, 2021
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Meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hxifmCdOV5_FbKloDJRWZQHq0ge-trXJKF-BgV4wHVk/edit#heading=h.6b4oie86y8kg
A
Before
we
actually
jump
in,
I'm
gonna
hijack
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
to
share.
If,
if
anybody
needs
needed
to
know
that
there
was
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
with
the
form
where
people
who
submitted
their
talks
were
able
to
see
the
submissions
before
them,
which
included
some
personal
information,
I
mean
it's
email
address
name
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So
I
think
leonardo
did
you
send
out
the
communication.
Do
you
want
to
give
the
update
on
that.
B
C
C
A
E
F
E
Overly
complex,
but
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
that
was
that
we,
in
terms
of
the
actual
day
itself,
we
found
that
it
may
be
easier
to
put
all
the
recorded
stuff
at
the
end.
So
if
there
are
basically
do
all
the
live
stuff
up
front
and
then
do
all
the
re
so
like
the
lightning
talks
are
going
to
be
recorded
so
that
that
makes
sense
that
that's
at
the
end.
E
But
if
you
have
any
30
minute
sessions
that
are
recorded
to
put
those
towards
the
end,
so
that
way,
it
just
makes
it
easier
to
hop
in
to
you
know
that,
so
that
way,
there's
no
mistakes
in
in
swapping
in
and
out
it
just
it
just
makes
it
a
lot
easier
in
terms
of
the
the
actual
event
itself.
So
chris,
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
add
anything
else.
I
think
that
that
was
a
big
takeaway.
G
And
the
technical
limitation
here
for
those
that
are
curious
for
that,
like
you,
have
to
have
a
single
source
to
pull
the
videos
from
and
those
sources
could
be
like
youtube
or
vimeo
or
whatever,
and
it's
much
easier
to
kind
of
just
let
a
player
look
play
list
role
than
it
is
to
be
like
just
this
video.
Now
this
person
just
this
video
now
this
person
right
so
that's
kind
of
the
technical
limitation
we're
dealing
with
right,
the
videos
don't
actually
land
and
hop
in
they
land
elsewhere
and
you
stream
them
from
that
service.
E
E
A
E
A
C
A
B
Can
share
that
right
now
give
me
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen,
real,
quick
so
for
for
those
that
are
not
familiar
put
together
this
additional
sheet,
where
we're
doing
the
the
reviews
so
far,
we've
got
four
people
reviewed
that
have
reviewed
a
bunch
of
them.
Christian
has
commented
that
for
some
of
those
talks
they
cannot
participate
because
they're
co-workers,
because
there's
a
bunch
of
coming
from
redhead
right.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
christian
is
is
done
with
all
the
ones
that
you
can
review.
Can
you
yes,
okay,
so
christian
is.
B
B
I
B
That
how
about
you,
robert
hold
on
all
done,
okay,
yep,
so
cool
I'll,
be
doing
my
reviews
today.
I
believe
the
deadline
that
we
had
was
for
tomorrow
for
all
of
us
to
have
them
reviewed.
As
far
as
count
there
is
a
total
of
28
talks,
submissions
which
26
are
actually
valid.
The
first
two
were
tests
and
that's
kind
of
like
where
we
are.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
add
anything
or
ask
anything.
A
C
I
think
we
definitely
have
enough
talks
because,
after
all,
we
only
need
to
fill
four
slots
with
talks.
Okay
and
I've
seen
enough
for
that,
I
think
actually,
where
we
now
have
a
very
tough
choice
if
we
would
go
for
segmenting.
The
topics
like
one
talk
for
argo,
one
for
flux,
one
for
I
don't
know
whatever
else.
B
And
another
comment
that
I'll
make
is,
I
think,
once
I'm
done
with
my
set
of
reviews
will
basically
hit
the
minimum
three
reviewer
mark
for
all
of
them.
So
I
think
we're
put
there
as
well
I'd
love
to
see
more
reviewers.
We
actually
had
expected
for
eight
total
reviewers
to
participate,
but
since
more
is
a
deadline-
and
I
think
time
is
of
the
essence
here
as
long
as
we
get,
you
need
to
add
that
to
the
data
sheet,
then
so
yeah.
C
B
C
D
Okay,
so
I
we
haven't
moved
to
raising
hands,
yet
I
guess
so
I'll
just
jump
in
real
fast.
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
but
I'll
leave
that
to
you
again
but
I'll
go
home,
okay,
cool!
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
you
know
we
had
discussed
earlier
having
a
panel
with
with
members
of
the
adopts
working
group
in
order
to,
at
the
very
least,
give
some
not
only
announcements
but
just
status
of
the
project.
D
Stat
or
excuse
me
status
of
the
working
group
status
of
the
open,
getups
project
and
anything
else
related
to
contributing
and
becoming
involved,
and
perhaps
perhaps
we
discuss
perhaps
getting
into
the
principles
a
bit
as
well
as
we
when
we
get
to
the
engine.
The
agenda
item
for
the
schedule.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
we
had
discussed
that
before
and
haven't
really
arrived
at
exactly
what
we're
gonna
do.
B
D
Just
the
fast
follow
response
is
that
I
think
in
a
more
in-depth
conversation
about
principles
could
be,
I
would
vote
for
that
to
be
optional.
Based
on
the
other
talks.
It
would
be
a
shame,
I
think,
to
boot
out
something
that's
super
relevant
so
that
we
could
continue
the
kinds
of
discussions
that
we've
been
having
offline
or
outside
of
that.
D
F
Now
the
other
thing
this
is
cornelia
and
I'm
sorry
I
I'm.
I
have
really
bad
bandwidth
here,
so
I'm
on
the
phone
via
audio.
The
other
thing
that
I
want
to
just
remind
everyone
of
is
that
we
do
have
a
set
a
kubecon
session,
where
we
are
going
over
the
the
get
ops
working
group
as
a
as
a
coarse
grain,
inviting
people
to
join,
giving
them
the
history
showing
them
the
context
of
where
everything
fits.
H
F
D
A
Great
okay,
cool
yeah,
I
mean
just
in
terms
of
like
the
goal
of
get
ops
con.
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
to
work
on
the
standard.
I
think
it's
to
evangelize
successes
and
introduce
people
to
it.
So
I
don't
think
it's
like
a
maintainers
conference.
You
know
it's
like:
let's
get
the
customers
out
there,
let's
get
the
real
life
use
cases
out
there.
C
F
C
C
I
strongly
suggest
that
we
take
that
only
as
an
initial
indication
and
that
we
much
more
look
into
the
topics
of
the
talks
and
understand
what
do
we
want
to
present
and
how
to
kind
of
have
one
talk
for
maybe
each
type
of
topic
and
then,
within
each
type
of
topic.
We
should
choose
the
most
appropriate
talk
that
maybe
didn't
get
the
highest
rating,
but
really
fits
the
fits.
The
story
that
we
want
to
tell
as
a
conference.
C
A
A
E
So
I
I
agree
with
in
terms
of
like
we
shouldn't
lean
too
much
on
one
way
or
another.
We
should
have
equal
representation
of
all
the
projects,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
the
the
guiding
the
group
the
guiding
force
should
be,
I
think,
maybe
user
stories.
I
think
I
find
that
personally
more
compelling.
E
F
I
would
say
that
probably
half
of
our
agenda
is
experience
reports,
because
that's
really
what
the
community
gets
a
tremendous
amount
out
of
is
a
big
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do-
and
I
I
like
this,
this
part
of
the
agenda
this
this
goal
from
the
devops
enterprise
summit,
which
is
to
build
community,
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
highlight
those
experience
reports
so
that
others
in
the
audience
can
say.
F
F
So
those
are
those
tend
to
be
more.
The
people
who
are
they
tend
to
maybe
be
with
a
vendor,
but
we're
very,
very
strict
about
not
vendor
pitches,
but
there
are
people
who
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
a
particular
area
like
transforming
fight.
Your
cfo
type
of
a
thing
because
remember
devops
is
not
just
tech
tools
and
technology,
and
so
we
do
have
some
expert
talks.
I
think,
with
our
small
agenda.
F
I
wouldn't
necessarily
want
to
hide,
I
think,
maybe,
between
the
the
keynote,
the
sponsor
you
know
the
red
hat
and
that
that
we
maybe
will
have
enough
of
that
category.
I
would
given
that
we
have
three
or
four
sessions
experience
reports.
If,
if
we
did
all
experience
reports,
that
would
make
me
happy
so.
A
G
A
G
E
A
E
I
E
E
G
E
K
C
B
J
J
E
A
E
L
E
L
C
L
A
C
A
I
am,
I
am
looking
at
the
times
here
and
I
do
notice
that
many
of
the
times
are
kind
of
afternoon
european
times
and
it's
likely
for
the
same
reason,
but
I
I
I
think
I
think
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and
I
get
it.
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
pick
obviously
incompatible
time
for
the
europeans
so
doing
it
where
it's
scheduled
right
now
from
five
to
ten.
J
C
J
I
I
think
it's
understandable
in
these
kind
of
scenarios
where,
where
that
the
keynotes
aren't
the
things
that
open
opens
up
the
entire
thing,
just
because
it's
kind
of
hard
to
do
that
with
everyone
sitting
across
the
world
and
as
long
as
long
as
it
doesn't
start
so
late
that
the
conference
will
end.
You
know
in
the
evening
long
until
the.
J
A
E
A
C
E
E
Yeah,
so
we
have
so
then
my
my
I'm
leaning
towards
what
cornelia
was
saying
in
the
beginning.
Can
we
just
like
split
the
difference
having
it
1400
central
european
summer
time?
That's
two
in
the
afternoon
right.
So
that's
not
so
bad
5
a.m.
I
can
I
can
you
know
I
can
do
5
a.m.
You
know
that
that
one
day.
J
C
F
E
A
E
D
C
L
J
A
A
L
L
A
C
A
Yeah,
what
if
what
have
people
seen
work
at
virtual
conferences,
because
I
always
worry
during
virtual
conferences
that
if
you
do
a
break,
you
just
lose
half
your
viewers.
So
I've
always
figured
that
if
it's
a
virtual
conference,
people
will
get
up
and
go
to
the
bathroom
and
just
come
back
whenever
they
want
right.
So.
E
You
know,
talk
is
starting
in
five
minutes
or
have
a
bumper
or
whatever
similar
to
what
we
have
chris
in
openshift
yeah
take
a
break
type
in
100
things,
there's
kind
of
like
a
looping
thing,
we'll
be
back
in
five
minutes
or
we're
we're
prepping,
because
we're
gonna
need
time
to
like
have
people
come
to
the
backstage
area?
That's
what
they
call
it
in
hop
in
and
prepare
to
present.
G
Yeah,
the
if
they're
already
in
the
backstage
it's
easy
to
promote
them,
but
like
making
sure
that
transition
happens
smoothly.
I
think
it's
fine.
If
we
I
mean
we
need
a
break
of
some
sort,
but,
like
dan
said,
I
feel
like
the
more
or
the
longer
the
break,
the
more
people
we
lose
and
also
keep
in
mind.
This
is
kubecon
we
might
have
600
people
registered,
but
if
it's
free,
they
probably
registered
for
all
the
free
stuff
and
are
going
to
bounce
you
know
so
we're
not
going
to
have
1600
all
at
once.
A
K
A
J
J
A
Of
them,
okay,
so
let's,
let's
drop
two
of
them
unless
somebody's
opposed
and
then
we
can
build
in
a
10-minute
break
halfway
through
the
time,
and
we
can
figure
out
during
that
time
either
to
just
have
somebody
like
mc
chat
or
or
just
to
put
up,
but
we'll
be
our
back
or
whatever
it
is.
But
we
can.
We
can
come
up
with
with
some
way
to
maybe
keep
an
engaging
break
so
that
we
don't
have
people
drop
off
like
hey
now's,
your
10
minutes
to
make
a
sandwich.
E
F
G
F
F
F
E
A
D
A
F
D
F
F
A
So
yeah
I
agree
completely,
so
I
think
at
this
point,
let's,
let's
finish
up
our
reviews
and
then
we
can
kind
of
make
a
decision
based
on
okay.
Well,
we
have
three
lightning
talks.
We
really
love,
we
hate
all
the
rest,
then
let
then
we
can
take
the
decision
at
that
point
to
to
adjust
the
rest,
but
that
sounds
good.
So
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
making
sure
to
have
user
experience,
reports
and
cornelia
brought
expert
sessions.
A
H
A
Yeah
good
good
question,
so
I
would
propose-
and
I'm
happy
to
to
volunteer
for
this
task
if
you'd
prefer.
I
think
one
of
us
should
take
all
the
feedback
and
basically
break
it
down
into
here's
where
everyone
agrees
and
here's
where
everyone
here's,
where
we
have
some
points
of
disagreement
and
discussion
and
then
let's
we
can
either
if
there's
enough
there,
let's
schedule
a
follow-up
and
say:
hey,
there's,
there's
these
five
or
six
talks
where
we
have
really
different
ideas.
Let's
talk
those
ones
out,
but
there's
all
this
set.
That's
like
yeah.
A
F
I
So
that's
super
helpful.
We
must
be
cautious
because
up
to
now
we
have
only
seven
lightning
talk
before
the
final
cut
and
here
in
the
agenda.
I
think
we
have
something
like,
I
would
say,
nine
or
ten
slots.
So
before
the
final
cut,
we
already
have
more
less
lighting
talks
on
the
the
entry
into
the
agenda.
I
C
Got
more
than
3.5
or
so,
and
maybe
that
got
more
than
three
and
take
this
those
into
consideration
like
throw
away
the
talks,
lightning
talks
that
got
maybe
only
less
than
three
and
then
we'll
know
which
proper
talks
we
can
convert
into
lightning
talk
and
then,
of
course,
people
still
have
to
agree
to
convert
a
light
to
make
a
lightning
talk
and
I'm
sure
we'll
hash
it
out
easily.
I
would
really
talk
about
reducing
or
expanding
the
agenda
at
the
very
last
moment,
not
in
the
beginning,
yeah
agreed.
A
Yeah,
there's
there's
an
extra
thoughts
reasoning.
So
if
you,
if
you
see
some
of
those
and
you
that
you
think,
would
make
good
lightning
talks,
go
ahead
and
put
a
note
in
there
after
the
end
of
review
period
tomorrow,
I'll
take
the
action
item
and
do
the
review
and
then
should
we
set
time
for
thursday
to
come
back
and
review
the
areas
of
divergence
and
then
kind
of
finalize
the
agenda.
L
So
if
I
can
ask
you
guys
to
put
a
little
bit
more
urgency
on
that,
we
have
10
days
to
identify
talks,
publish
and
promote
a
schedule,
get
people
to
record
their
sessions,
get
the
sessions
uploaded.
So
I'm,
if
you
guys,
can
do
this
today
or
tomorrow
yeah.
I
really
think
we
need
to
start
pushing
to
do
that.
So.
A
L
A
A
A
G
H
E
Yeah,
so
I
I
believe,
I
believe,
the
the
review
it
should
be
kind
of
for
tomorrow.
It
should
be
kind
of
like
a
sanity
check
right
because
all
the
ones
we
voted
for
should
you
know,
float
to
the
top
right,
like
all
the
best
ones
should
float
to
the
top,
and
it
should
be
just
a
matter
of
slotting
them
in
in
a
certain
way.
So.
A
So
what
what
I'll
do
is
for
chris
and
leonardo,
especially
I'll,
get
all
of
the
I'll
I'll
do
the
tabulation
tomorrow
morning,
first
thing
and
I'll
just
send
out
a
status
to
this
group.
So
if
you,
if
you
see
that,
like
your
talk,
is
the
the
talk
that
you
really
wanted
is
the
one
that
is
up
for
discussion,
you
can
at
least
provide
a
comment
or
something
in
there
and
then,
if
it,
you
know,
we
can
play
it.
That
way.
That
way,
we
can
try
to
capture
any
additional
thoughts
or
feedback.
G
G
E
Actually,
actually
be
better
for
me
to
be
honest
with
you,
if
we
do
it
earlier,
I
mean
I
I
will
make
it
I'll
make
tomorrow
at
this
time,
if
I
you
know
like,
because
I'm
I'm
committed
to
push
this
course
over
the
line,
but
personally
like
earlier,
actually
would
be
better
for
me.
I
don't
know
what
anyone
else's
schedules
are
like.
A
N
D
D
I
A
A
I
For
europe
it
will
be
super
late.
If
we,
if
we,
if
we
do
it
one
hour
after
the
session,
we
we
started
today,
I
think
it
it
will
be.
It
will
be
really
late.
I
and-
and
I
I
cannot,
I
don't
know
why
they
cannot
edit
my
my
my
personal
information,
but
the
slot
before
the
hour
we
started
today
is
also
possible
for
me,
but
I'm
not
able
to
change
it
on
the
doodle.